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Joss says Thor 3 is a Ragnarockin' good time

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Saturday, October 28, 2017 2:33 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry

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Saturday, November 4, 2017 6:33 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


"Here's the thing: @TaikaWaititi has made a modern masterpiece," Whedon tweeted. "Epic, hilarious, gorgeous, heartfelt, and hilarious. I'm SO HAPPY #hilarious."

Tweet from Joss..............

I agree. Go see my review in Cinema.


SGG

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Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:35 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Well, we ended up in the Big Town this evening, as we had some errands to run, so we went to see it at the Big City Theater. Reclining chairs for us too, SGG.

I see why Joss was so over the moon about it, so much of it was his type humor and pretty close to his vibe, visually. A LOT of action, a lot of comedy, a lot of coolness for coolness's sake...it never got dull, I'll say that much. There's even a parody part of "Puny Gods" you'll love...Cate Blanchett as Hela kicks some serious butt. At 48... she looks better in lycra than I ever have or will, sadly. Freakin' DNA

I will add... there was almost too much in the movie. Some scenes felt boiled down into just seconds to make the scenes work in scope. I have a hard time remembering the whole plot or having any meaningful feels about it, even though I enjoyed it.

Was surprised at how happy I was to see Dr. Strange, and probably the BEST LINE of the movie was in those scenes. We've watched Dr. Strange about 8 times since it's on Netflix, and as much as I love him as Sherlock, Dr. Strange is really growing on me. SHOULD maybe be another movie with him in 2019, I hear.

If you expect it to be a little trippy, and just go with the flow... it's fun. There are two extra bits, with one all the way at the end of the credits, so stick around and annoy the clean-up crew. They're teens, they deserve it



ALSO, the other day we were looking it up and apparently in the mythology Thor has a baby with a manly she troll or giant (descriptions vary widely since her people can change form??) named Járnsaxa, Sif, AND another undefined woman (which could be Jane). We were discussing how great it would be if Thor went on a drunken bender and woke up with the Troll woman, and then at some point Jane and Sif walk into the room, both pregnant and then it cuts to a scene of these magical babies playing together and Thor would come in and say "Sorry, I have to go kids...Daddy has to go to work, I have a LOT of child support..."



I mean, THAT would be epic. Good way to introduce characters for 20 years from now, too..




This is from Wiki about it...

In Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, numerous tales and information about Thor are provided. In these sources, Thor bears at least fourteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce eyed, red haired and red bearded.[1] With Sif, Thor fathered the goddess (and possible valkyrie) Þrúðr; with Járnsaxa, he fathered Magni; with a mother whose name is not recorded, he fathered Móði, and he is the stepfather of the god Ullr



Ohh, and I see Loki got married (there is someone for everyone, I guess) and by his wife Sigyn, Loki is the father of Narfi and/or Nari.

Loki could bring his kid in and the kid could steal a toy or something, I dunno. A little circle of life going on

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Monday, November 6, 2017 2:10 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


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Well, we ended up in the Big Town this evening, as we had some errands to run, so we went to see it at the Big City Theater. Reclining chairs for us too, SGG.


Aren't they like, the best. It's like sitting in your living room, but what I like best is the leg room. I don't mind paying a few extra ducats for some comfort.

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I see why Joss was so over the moon about it, so much of it was his type humor and pretty close to his vibe, visually. A LOT of action, a lot of comedy, a lot of coolness for coolness's sake...it never got dull, I'll say that much. There's even a parody part of "Puny Gods" you'll love...Cate Blanchett as Hela kicks some serious butt. At 48... she looks better in lycra than I ever have or will, sadly. Freakin' DNA


Yeah, I kind of got that Joss vibe from the movie overall. I see why he was singing it's praises. Lots of action - and the music choices - lots of comedy was all awesomeness. (someone online complained it was too funny. I could see that if you go expecting lots of norse god stuff, swordplay and the like, but you get rim-shots and one liners, well that could ruin it for you). I though it was a nice mixture of Shakespearean drama and comedy. The movie didn't seem like 2 hours and 10 minutes.
In Thor: Dark World it seemed like it took forever.

I totally agree about Cate Blanchett, she was awesome as Hela (full disclosure: my son had to tell me at the end that it was her. I did not recognize her at all.) She did look absolutely fabulous (sorry about that, but she does look great for 28 never mind 48).

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I will add... there was almost too much in the movie. Some scenes felt boiled down into just seconds to make the scenes work in scope. I have a hard time remembering the whole plot or having any meaningful feels about it, even though I enjoyed it.


I agree. There was very little in the way of "moving" scenes -

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like Odin's farewell scene


But I liked the movie overall. I think that the studio wanted to move away a bit from the Shakespearean heavy drama part and go with a modern, snappy vehicle for this part of the saga.

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Was surprised at how happy I was to see Dr. Strange, and probably the BEST LINE of the movie was in those scenes. We've watched Dr. Strange about 8 times since it's on Netflix, and as much as I love him as Sherlock, Dr. Strange is really growing on me. SHOULD maybe be another movie with him in 2019, I hear.


I was surprised to see Dr. Strange as well. Fun, fun, fun and I believe key to future movies with Thor/Avengers. Love him as Sherlock.

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If you expect it to be a little trippy, and just go with the flow... it's fun. There are two extra bits, with one all the way at the end of the credits, so stick around and annoy the clean-up crew. They're teens, they deserve it


I think they know, the clean-up crew, that the movie lets out later than most because of the "extras" (that's what I call them) at the end of the movie. Here's something I haven't seen in quite a long time: the crew thanking you for coming to the theater. Plus saying good night. What's this world coming to; politeness!? Really!? I almost took out my phone camera and took a picture.

By the way, thanks for the "extra" mythology lesson below, that was real shiny of you.


SGG

ALSO, the other day we were looking it up and apparently in the mythology Thor has a baby with a manly she troll or giant (descriptions vary widely since her people can change form??) named Járnsaxa, Sif, AND another undefined woman (which could be Jane). We were discussing how great it would be if Thor went on a drunken bender and woke up with the Troll woman, and then at some point Jane and Sif walk into the room, both pregnant and then it cuts to a scene of these magical babies playing together and Thor would come in and say "Sorry, I have to go kids...Daddy has to go to work, I have a LOT of child support..."



I mean, THAT would be epic. Good way to introduce characters for 20 years from now, too..




This is from Wiki about it...

In Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, numerous tales and information about Thor are provided. In these sources, Thor bears at least fourteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce eyed, red haired and red bearded.[1] With Sif, Thor fathered the goddess (and possible valkyrie) Þrúðr; with Járnsaxa, he fathered Magni; with a mother whose name is not recorded, he fathered Móði, and he is the stepfather of the god Ullr



Ohh, and I see Loki got married (there is someone for everyone, I guess) and by his wife Sigyn, Loki is the father of Narfi and/or Nari.

Loki could bring his kid in and the kid could steal a toy or something, I dunno. A little circle of life going on


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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:10 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:31 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Hela is absolutely glorious in her first time onscreen, a whirling menace that’s all horns, daggers, and death. We’d be extremely lucky to see her last more than one movie — but when it comes to Marvel’s movies, we’re almost never that lucky.

In the comic books, Hela is big and bad, but also complex in her plans and motivations: She’s a notorious double-crosser known for entangling heroes in nefarious, last-resort bargains and agreements. In the movie, however, she becomes a one-dimensional destructive force. She’s flattened into a character whose sole purpose is to be defeated by the hero, rather than an antagonist the franchise can’t live without.

Instead of interacting with Thor and Loki, or any of the film’s other memorable characters, Blanchett’s Hela spends most of her scenes making expository speeches about her past and how much she wants to make all the kingdoms kneel before her glory, delivered to empty throne rooms, a sea of anonymous Asgardian soldiers, or Karl Urban’s Skurge, a dopey minion to whom Hela takes a liking.

These speeches make clear that Hela wants to take over the universe, but we’re given little motivation for that desire beyond the fact that she’s the goddess of death and this is apparently what goddesses of death do. Nor are we told how killing every Asgardian and ruling an undead army contributes to a larger vision for power, beyond wanting to hang around an undead, obedient army.

For comic book readers, Hela, Ultron, and Red Skull are some of the Avengers’ most iconic foes. To see them so easily swept away at the end of their respective movies is almost entertaining in the context of how long they’ve lived in the pages of comic books — literally decades upon decades.

The iconic yet disposable villain list includes Ronan the Accuser (Guardians of the Galaxy) and Ego, the living Planet (Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2). At the end of Ragnarok, it seems like Hela joins those ranks of Marvel’s disposable villains. Villains, no matter how enduring or powerful or enigmatic they are in comic books, often fall flat when they make the leap to the movies.

Hela appeared on thousands of comic book pages for as long as someone can draw her, but having Cate Blanchett appear in multiple Marvel movies would require all kinds of money and deals being cut.

Of course, there are two enduring exceptions to Marvel’s disposable villain rule: Bucky Barnes, a.k.a. the Winter Soldier, and Loki, Thor’s adoptive brother. Both were introduced as a threat on a much smaller scale that represents something more personal to the heroes they’re tethered to. As such, they’ve remained part of their respective franchises, evolving into something more like antiheroes, who can be incorporated into the story in new and different ways.

What makes Loki effective (aside from what Hiddleston brings to the role) is that the audience gets to see the psychology behind his villainy. They may not agree with his actions, but they understand what’s going on in his head: his animosity toward his father, his feelings of inferiority to his brother, his true nature as a trickster god. There’s much more going on there than a villainous man with a nefarious plan, and as such, he’s not so easily dispatched as Hela, his sister.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 8, 2017 7:38 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


I know you hate it when they bring in babies, but whaddaya think about my idea? It'd be funny, right??

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