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STAR WARS Episode 9: The Final Abortion

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Monday, January 20, 2020 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They'll eventually make their $4 Billion investment back

Disney paid $2.2 billion in cash and $1.855 billion in stock. $1.855 billion in stock is the same as paying with counterfeit money or the colorful bills in a Monopoly Game. If George Lucas had been suckered into accepting only Disney stock, it would be for Disney like purchasing LucasFilms/StarWars for free.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 20, 2020 8:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

They'll eventually make their $4 Billion investment back

Disney paid $2.2 billion in cash and $1.855 billion in stock. $1.855 billion in stock is the same as paying with counterfeit money or the colorful bills in a Monopoly Game. If George Lucas had been suckered into accepting only Disney stock, it would be for Disney like purchasing LucasFilms/StarWars for free.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I'm not a fan of the DOW myself, as you probably already know, but I think you may be oversimplifying George's situation a bit.



Sale date of Lucasfilm to Disney: October 30, 2012

Disney stock price on October 19th, 2012: $51.90
Disney stock price on November 16th, 2012: $47.42
(The graph on Google doesn't show every day, so I put both days surrounding that)

Disney stock price today: $144.33

I think the fact that he could cash out right now and end up with about $7.7 Billion instead of only $4.2 Billion for the sale helps him sleep better at night after Disney committed infanticide on his baby.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm not a fan of the DOW myself, as you probably already know, but I think you may be oversimplifying George's situation a bit.



Sale date of Lucasfilm to Disney: October 30, 2012

Disney stock price on October 19th, 2012: $51.90
Disney stock price on November 16th, 2012: $47.42
(The graph on Google doesn't show every day, so I put both days surrounding that)

Disney stock price today: $144.33

I think the fact that he could cash out right now and end up with about $7.7 Billion instead of only $4.2 Billion for the sale helps him sleep better at night after Disney committed infanticide on his baby.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

George Lucas bailed out of Disney a long time ago:

1) February 6, 2013

Just four months after announcing the sale of Lucasfilm production company to Disney in a $4 billion deal, George Lucas, the screenwriter and director best known for the Star Wars series, has made a move toward cashing out — big time.
https://techcrunch.com/2013/02/06/george-lucas-stake-sale/

2) May 18 2015

George Lucas has made a $2.2bn paper profit on the Walt Disney stock he received in exchange for the rights to Star Wars thanks to the outperformance of the media company’s shares.
www.ft.com/content/9e3e42fa-fda7-11e4-b824-00144feabdc0

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 11:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm not a fan of the DOW myself, as you probably already know, but I think you may be oversimplifying George's situation a bit.



Sale date of Lucasfilm to Disney: October 30, 2012

Disney stock price on October 19th, 2012: $51.90
Disney stock price on November 16th, 2012: $47.42
(The graph on Google doesn't show every day, so I put both days surrounding that)

Disney stock price today: $144.33

I think the fact that he could cash out right now and end up with about $7.7 Billion instead of only $4.2 Billion for the sale helps him sleep better at night after Disney committed infanticide on his baby.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

George Lucas bailed out of Disney a long time ago:

1) February 6, 2013

Just four months after announcing the sale of Lucasfilm production company to Disney in a $4 billion deal, George Lucas, the screenwriter and director best known for the Star Wars series, has made a move toward cashing out — big time.
https://techcrunch.com/2013/02/06/george-lucas-stake-sale/

2) May 18 2015

George Lucas has made a $2.2bn paper profit on the Walt Disney stock he received in exchange for the rights to Star Wars thanks to the outperformance of the media company’s shares.
www.ft.com/content/9e3e42fa-fda7-11e4-b824-00144feabdc0

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I think that saying he sold the shares in part or in whole is inconclusive. The first article you linked said that he filed whatever necessasary legal paperwork needed to be done so he had the ability to do so. It even finishes up by saying this in the second to last paragraph:

Quote:

It’s important to note that the prospectus indicates Lucas’ intent to sell this stock “from time to time.” That means that the sale will not necessarily happen all at once, or right away. The Lucasfilm sale closed on December 21st, 2012.




I'm unable to read anything at the ft.com website.


Wikipedia and several other websites make no mention of Lucas selling his Disney stake, from what I can see.

I did find this article from December of 2018:

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2463858/george-lucas-is-americas-rich
est-celebrity-thanks-to-selling-star-wars-a-few-years-ago


They say this:

Quote:

George Lucas now ranks first among America's rich and famous with a net worth of a cool $5.4 billion according to Forbes. The bulk of that $4.1 billion comes from that sale of his production company, and the beloved Star Wars property, to Disney. In the deal, George Lucas received 37.1 million shares in Disney stock. And as the Mouse's fortunes have risen, so have Lucas'.



But... they also say this:

Quote:

Although massive, the $4.1 billion price tag Disney paid for Lucasfilm seemed like a steal and just a few years later Disney has already made that money back


Cinema Blend is not known for their great reporting or intelligent discourse. It's more likely the writers there majored in Gender Studies and didn't bother at least getting a minor in Accounting as a Plan B.

I'm certainly not going to die on that hill over quoting cinemablend.com, but I can't find much else about it. Maybe Disney forced him to sign an NDA for permission to sell them so soon, or maybe the NDA was part of the original deal. I don't think everybody left that table being best friends, and if I were Bob Iger I would have put a muzzle on Lucas too.



Part of me hopes that he sold it slowly over time and is still making a killing on it. The other part of me really doesn't care. What can one person do with over $4 Billion dollars that they couldn't do with just $4 Billion dollars?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Part of me hopes that he sold it slowly over time and is still making a killing on it. The other part of me really doesn't care. What can one person do with over $4 Billion dollars that they couldn't do with just $4 Billion dollars?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

George Lucas was the #1 Disney stockholder after selling LucasFilms, with 37.1 million Disney shares, but now he is not listed in the top 5. Number 5 on the list has 71,360 shares. I take that to mean George Lucas has fewer than 71,360 shares of Disney.
www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/102715/top-5-disney-shareholders
.asp


Lucas has $6.3 billion, invested in whatever, but it's not Disney: www.forbes.com/profile/george-lucas/

Then there is this:

Disney bought Lucasfilm six years ago today and has already recouped its $4 billion investment
www.cnbc.com/2018/10/30/six-years-after-buying-lucasfilm-disney-has-re
couped-its-investment.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 11:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Part of me hopes that he sold it slowly over time and is still making a killing on it. The other part of me really doesn't care. What can one person do with over $4 Billion dollars that they couldn't do with just $4 Billion dollars?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



George Lucas was the #1 Disney stockholder after selling LucasFilms, with 37.1 million Disney shares, but now he is not listed in the top 5. Number 5 on the list has 71,360 shares. I take that to mean George Lucas has fewer than 71,360 shares of Disney.
www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/102715/top-5-disney-shareholders
.asp



https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/102715/top-5-disney-shar
eholders.asp


I wonder what happened to the Steve Jobs Estate. That was actually the number 1 share holder above George Lucas for a time.

Quote:

Lucas has $6.3 billion, invested in whatever, but it's not Disney: www.forbes.com/profile/george-lucas/

Then there is this:

Disney bought Lucasfilm six years ago today and has already recouped its $4 billion investment
www.cnbc.com/2018/10/30/six-years-after-buying-lucasfilm-disney-has-re
couped-its-investment.html





lol

Apparently Mrs. Whitten majored in Gender Studies as well.

Here's her Key Points:

Quote:

Key Points

- Six years ago, Disney bought Lucasfilm for $4.05 billion.
- The four Star Wars feature films Disney has released since 2015 have grossed more than $4.8 billion at the box office.
- Disney also makes money from licensing agreements and sales of merchandise, apparel and toys.



I guess production and marketing budget liabilities don't factor into how you figure a company's profits in Cultural-Marxist-Land. Neither do all of the lost sales of perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars of Star Wars merchandise that has been shredded and recycled after languishing for years on toy shelves and are claimed by some to be the final nail in Toys R Us's coffin. It would also seem that there is zero inflation in her world over the course of six years too.


And why are we going to completely gloss over the fact that with the production and marketing budget of SOLO combined, that it has still lost around $100 Million overall even including DVD and BluRay sales after the fact? We don't subtract those losses in CML?

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Solo-A-Star-Wars-Story#tab=summary


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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 2:13 PM

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A smart acquisition, but execution has been lackluster

Describing Disney's Star Wars acquisition as a "failure" would probably be putting it in terms that are too stark. But execution on the franchise in the days following the successes of The Force Awakens and Rogue One has left a lot to be desired. If it weren't for The Mandalorian's very strong reception and the value that the broader property has added to the streaming service, missteps with the film series, declining merchandise sales, and weak performance for Galaxy's Edge would be a lot more concerning.

Disney's big Star Wars buy will likely still prove to be a smart move in the long run. However, there are clear instances where the company has come up short with the property and missed what seemed like relatively sure bets, and that list has grown at a concerning rate.

www.fool.com/investing/2019/12/15/has-disneys-star-wars-acquisition-be
en-a-failure.aspx


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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
A smart acquisition, but execution has been lackluster

Describing Disney's Star Wars acquisition as a "failure" would probably be putting it in terms that are too stark. But execution on the franchise in the days following the successes of The Force Awakens and Rogue One has left a lot to be desired. If it weren't for The Mandalorian's very strong reception and the value that the broader property has added to the streaming service, missteps with the film series, declining merchandise sales, and weak performance for Galaxy's Edge would be a lot more concerning.

Disney's big Star Wars buy will likely still prove to be a smart move in the long run. However, there are clear instances where the company has come up short with the property and missed what seemed like relatively sure bets, and that list has grown at a concerning rate.

www.fool.com/investing/2019/12/15/has-disneys-star-wars-acquisition-be
en-a-failure.aspx


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I agree with that assessment. I would never, nor have I ever argued that it was a bad purchase on Disney's part, even with how poorly they handled it.

I feel that they did a lot of poor planing though, and they turned what could arguably be called the most marketable name in the history of Hollywood (before Marvel, of course) into not much more than a mediocre property.

I think they could fix it. As bad as the old fans feel they've been treated, I think deep down most of them would love to see it change course and be fixed. I just don't feel that is the direction that Disney wants to take with it... or with any of it's properties.

"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."

I have no personal stake in any of this either way. Star Wars lost me with the prequel trilogy, but it probably lost me even earlier than that. I think I just grew out of it. I certainly wasn't reading 5 of the EU books a month and collecting the new toys in high school like my brother was.


I've got nothing against Star Wars at all really. It's Disney itself that I'd love to see fail in the big picture.

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Tuesday, January 21, 2020 5:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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BTW... Is MLK's birthday a school holiday?

I'm only asking because the Box Office for Monday was shockingly high compared to what I thought it was going to be... Roughly $400,000 less than Sunday, and double what it was last Monday.

I'm wondering what changed, because if that number is verified as correct it just blew away my prediction that Joker wasn't going to lose to Episode 9 again on a daily B.O. or a per-theater average.

EDIT:

Wow, yeah... that must be it. The-Numbers.com has Episode 9 listed at 100% higher than last Monday, and it has Jumianji at an unbelievable +284% than the previous Monday.

Guess I'll have to take holiday boredom into account before making predictions like that in the future, since I was wrong about both of these movies losing to Joker from here on out.

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Wednesday, January 22, 2020 1:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Numbers aren't in for Episode 9 yesterday yet, but Jumanji's Tuesday numbers didn't even crack $1 Million, which is more in-line with what I would have expected, even given that Tuesday night is almost always the highest non-weekend number because Tuesday is deal-day.

Me wondering if Episode 9 even cracked $700,000 Tuesday night. If it does, it's not by much, and it will mark Episode 9's first sub million dollar day at the box office, a full week before either Joker or Jumanji saw that happen.

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Friday, January 24, 2020 5:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Been in free fall mode this week...

Monday $2,303,679 (Holiday)
Tuesday $950,522 (Cinema deal Tuesday)
Wednesday $627,448
Thursday $593,642


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Saturday, January 25, 2020 11:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Time for the weekly update, with a little bit of 6th Friday news thrown in.

Not looking good for Episode 9 overall, however, MLK day gave it a bit of a boost on Monday, and somehow inexplicably it managed to edge out Jumanji just slightly every day through Thursday... although it gave it all back five fold last night with Jumanji pulling in half a million more than Episode 9 on Friday night.

So... here's the updated graph vs. Joker:

KEY:
B.O DAYS = Day of the week / which week by number
T # = Number of theaters shown
GrP T = Gross per theater

TROSw = The Rise of Skywalker



B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T

WEEK 1:
____________________________________________________________________________

1st Friday - JOKER $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942

WEEK 2:
____________________________________________________________________________

2nd Friday - JOKER $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105

WEEK 3:
____________________________________________________________________________

3rd Friday - JOKER $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492

WEEK 4:
____________________________________________________________________________

4th Friday - JOKER $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270
4th Tuesda - JOKER $ 2,468,414 3,936 $__627 / TROSw $ 1,856,300 4,279 $__434
4th Wednes - JOKER $ 1,631,209 3,936 $__414 / TROSw $ 1,261,857 4,279 $__295
4th Thursd - JOKER $ 1,886,940 3,936 $__479 / TROSw $ 1,076,521 4,279 $__252
____________________________________________________________________________

WEEK 5:
____________________________________________________________________________

5th Friday - JOKER $ 3,810,641 3,519 $1,083 / TROSw $ 1,970,398 3,058 $__644
5th Saturd - JOKER $ 5,966,867 3,519 $1,696 / TROSw $ 3,529,380 3,058 $1,154
5th Sunday - JOKER $ 3,722,608 3,519 $1,058 / TROSw $ 2,789,270 3,058 $__912
*MLK B-DAY - JOKER $ 1,159,782 3,519 $__330 / TROSw $ 2,303,679 3,058 $__753
5th Tuesda - JOKER $ 1,751,588 3,519 $__498 / TROSw $ __950,522 3,058 $__311
5th Wednes - JOKER $ 1,103,216 3,519 $__314 / TROSw $ __627,448 3,058 $__205
5th Thursd - JOKER $ 1,089,813 3,519 $__310 / TROSw $ __593,642 3,058 $__194
____________________________________________________________________________

WEEK 6: (INCOMPLETE DATA)
____________________________________________________________________________

6th Friday - JOKER $ 2,527,562 2,806 $__901 / TROSw $ 1,262,000 2,800 $__451
6th Saturd - JOKER $ 3,931,139 2,806 $1,401 / TROSw $ 2,554,000 2,800 $__912
6th Sunday - JOKER $ 2,762,602 2,806 $__985 / TROSw $ 1,357,000 2,800 $__485
6th Monday - JOKER $ 1,318,512 2,806 $__470 / TROSw $ XXXXXXXXX 2,800 $XXXXX
6th Tuesda - JOKER $ __904,313 2,806 $__322 / TROSw $ XXXXXXXXX 2,800 $XXXXX
6th Wednes - JOKER $ __626,545 2,806 $__223 / TROSw $ XXXXXXXXX 2,800 $XXXXX
6th Thursd - JOKER $ __602,413 2,806 $__215 / TROSw $ XXXXXXXXX 2,800 $XXXXX
____________________________________________________________________________






Notable mentions:

1. As stated above, the holiday boredom accounted for a 100% increase of Monday ticket sales over the previous Monday, destroying Joker's take on the same Monday both in overall box office and per-theater average numbers. But aside from that, nothing else too unexpected here.

2. Disney and/or theater owners made the wise decision to slash more than 1,000 theaters showing Episode 9 last week, but it didn't do anything to help the sad per-theater daily averages being dwarfed by R-Rated Joker every day except for said holiday.

3. That being said, they seem to have made a HUGE mistake by not slashing another thousand in the sixth week, opting only to cut 258 more theaters out of the rotation, leaving it with only 8 less theaters showing it than were showing Joker on the corresponding week.

4. Friday's estimates are in, and right now they look to be just about half of what Joker pulled in on the same Friday, meaning that a daily average of around half of the income per theater on the daily average of Joker is about the best that they can expect for week 6.

5. Joker's 7th week saw the theaters cut down to 2,337 and it's 8th week saw it further cut to only 1,410. My advice to Disney and theater owners for week 7 would be to skip right to around the 1,400 theater number by slashing nearly another 1,000 showing it or it will be thoroughly embarrassed on the per-theater daily average three weeks in a row.

6. Without taking a calculator out to get the exact number, aside from MLK Day, Episode 9's Fifth Week looks to have under-performed Joker's Sixth Week by $900,000 despite the fact that there were a few week days where Ep 9 just slightly outperformed it. Because of the extra Million it pulled in on the Holiday, Ep 9 was saved from the embarrassment of losing to the following Joker week's showings and ended up making around $200,000 more in Week Five than Joker made in Week Six.



EDIT: Updated graph to show the color coding in the first few weeks that Ep 8 outperformed Joker to better illustrate the fall.

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 1:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Womp womp...

Estimates are in for the weekend, and not only did Joker's Sixth Weekend crush Episode 9's Sixth Weekend, but Joker even brought more money in on it's Seventh weekend as well.

Next weekend will likely mark the first weekend where Episode 9 dips below $1 Million on at least 2 of the 3 weekend nights.


With the largest Saturday to Sunday night drop off since it began showing by a large margin and no holidays this week to save it, I expect to see all of the weekday totals except for Deal Tuesday to be under half a million this week.

It's going to hurt even more for the weekly total against Joker in the 6th week too since Monday, November 11th was Veterans Day and Joker got a boost from that.

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Sunday, January 26, 2020 2:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


11 Oscar Nominations.

SNL did a skit shows how angry the SJWs are... STILL!!

( for as long as it's allowed )


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Sunday, January 26, 2020 8:34 PM

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I got a good laugh out of that one. I don't even want to know what their politics are because it probably wouldn't be funny if I did. I don't know a single person up there. I haven't watched 5 minutes of SNL for at least 15 years.


I think it was pretty unfair for the white man and the nondescript woman to have all three minutes to themselves without letting the black man talk. Pretty not woke, SNL.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:28 AM

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Monday: $435,938 / $156 per theater.

Womp womp.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 3:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Monday: $435,938 / $156 per theater.

Womp womp.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Ep. 9 is done, all the geeks on YOUTUBE have moved on.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 7:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Monday: $435,938 / $156 per theater.

Womp womp.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Ep. 9 is done, all the geeks on YOUTUBE have moved on.




Quitters!

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:36 PM

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Between this, Star Trek and Dr Who, the collapse of all great sci-fi franchises is utterly complete.

Now what? Who has 'won' because of wokeness ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:44 AM

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lol

They can't even get people to go see Little Women man.

Hollywood is just terrible.

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:48 AM

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IDK if its fair to throw in Terminator, as that was dying before #MeToo Wokeness poison. And no one asked for She-Ghostbusters or yet ANOTHER Charlie's Angels.

No one.

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
IDK if its fair to throw in Terminator, as that was dying before #MeToo Wokeness poison. And no one asked for She-Ghostbusters or yet ANOTHER Charlie's Angels.

No one.




Well... I have made the argument that it's probably not fair to throw a lot of these things in there. I think part of the reason why the SJW's have been so successful in doing this stuff is because the properties were already being destroyed long before the vultures got to it.

Star Wars was not in good shape before Disney bought it.


The next few years should be interesting though. You can't say the same thing about the Marvel Universe, but all signs point to a "woke" future. That will be hilarious to watch, if true.

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:58 AM

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The gender swapping aspect of all this is just insufferable. We already have plenty of examples of real women showing leadership and bravery to be exalted, but hell... that's not nearly enough for the woke piranha.


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Thursday, January 30, 2020 11:07 AM

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Don't forget race too.

I'd be pretty insulted myself if Hollywood decided that instead of coming up with new beloved characters for diversity we have to change old ones. Black Panther showed that it can be done.

There was recently a live performance of Frozen where the mother and father were Asian and black, respectively. But Anna and Elsa were white girls with blonde hair.

I've heard that the performances by everyone were excellent. That doesn't take away from the fact that it's distracting and pulls you out of the performance.


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Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:04 PM

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Well, Dr. Who went from gender swap to race swap in no time.
But Thor, James Bond, Black Panther, Captain Marvel...all have endured or will get a gender swap soon.

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:45 PM

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Don't forget black Ariel.



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Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:39 PM

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Who goes on land to try to wooo the same prince, I'm sure.

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 10:54 PM

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Week 6 update, with a little bit of Week 7 thrown in.

KEY:
B.O DAYS = Day of the week / which week by number
T # = Number of theaters shown
GrP T = Gross per theater

TROSw = The Rise of Skywalker



B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T

WEEK 1:
____________________________________________________________________________

1st Friday - JOKER $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942

WEEK 2:
____________________________________________________________________________

2nd Friday - JOKER $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105

WEEK 3:
____________________________________________________________________________

3rd Friday - JOKER $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492

WEEK 4:
____________________________________________________________________________

4th Friday - JOKER $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270
4th Tuesda - JOKER $ 2,468,414 3,936 $__627 / TROSw $ 1,856,300 4,279 $__434
4th Wednes - JOKER $ 1,631,209 3,936 $__414 / TROSw $ 1,261,857 4,279 $__295
4th Thursd - JOKER $ 1,886,940 3,936 $__479 / TROSw $ 1,076,521 4,279 $__252
____________________________________________________________________________

WEEK 5:
____________________________________________________________________________

5th Friday - JOKER $ 3,810,641 3,519 $1,083 / TROSw $ 1,970,398 3,058 $__644
5th Saturd - JOKER $ 5,966,867 3,519 $1,696 / TROSw $ 3,529,380 3,058 $1,154
5th Sunday - JOKER $ 3,722,608 3,519 $1,058 / TROSw $ 2,789,270 3,058 $__912
*MLK B-DAY - JOKER $ 1,159,782 3,519 $__330 / TROSw $ 2,303,679 3,058 $__753
5th Tuesda - JOKER $ 1,751,588 3,519 $__498 / TROSw $ __950,522 3,058 $__311
5th Wednes - JOKER $ 1,103,216 3,519 $__314 / TROSw $ __627,448 3,058 $__205
5th Thursd - JOKER $ 1,089,813 3,519 $__310 / TROSw $ __593,642 3,058 $__194
____________________________________________________________________________

WEEK 6:
____________________________________________________________________________

6th Friday - JOKER $ 2,527,562 2,806 $__901 / TROSw $ 1,253,733 2,800 $__448
6th Saturd - JOKER $ 3,931,139 2,806 $1,401 / TROSw $ 2,543,434 2,800 $__908
6th Sunday - JOKER $ 2,762,602 2,806 $__985 / TROSw $ 1,775,511 2,800 $__634
*VTRNS DAY - JOKER $ 1,318,512 2,806 $__470 / TROSw $ __435,938 2,800 $__156
6th Tuesda - JOKER $ __904,313 2,806 $__322 / TROSw $ __620,379 2,800 $__222
6th Wednes - JOKER $ __626,545 2,806 $__223 / TROSw $ __419,854 2,800 $__150
6th Thursd - JOKER $ __602,413 2,806 $__215 / TROSw $ __404,032 2,800 $__144
____________________________________________________________________________


WEEK 7: (INCOMPLETE DATA)
____________________________________________________________________________

7th Friday - JOKER $ 1,482,802 2,337 $__637 / TROSw $ __852,143 2,202 $__387
7th Saturd - JOKER $ 2,483,771 2,337 $1,063 / TROSw $ 1,726,280 2,202 $__784
7th Sunday - JOKER $ 1,371,816 2,337 $__587 / TROSw $ __634,460 2,202 $__288
7th Monday - JOKER $ __426,673 2,337 $__183 / TROSw $ __282,947 2,202 $__128
7th Tuesda - JOKER $ __609,986 2,337 $__261 / TROSw $ __409,612 2,202 $__186
7th Wednes - JOKER $ __443,301 2,337 $__190 / TROSw $ XXXXXXXXX 2,202 $__XXX
7th Thursd - JOKER $ __328,871 2,337 $__141 / TROSw $ XXXXXXXXX 2,202 $__XXX
____________________________________________________________________________




As predicted, Joker destroyed Episode 9 on Monday with nearly triple the revenue because of Joker's boost on Veteran's Day in the same week. All other days saw anywhere from 25% more to nearly double what Episode 9 made in the same week, and several days where Episode 9 didn't even make in Week 6 what Joker made in Week 7.

But...

Say it ain't so Disney (and theater owners). Though they did make a smart decision and cut week 7 down to less theaters for Episode 9 than were open for Joker, it's only 135 less (2,337 for Joker vs. 2,202 for Episode 9).

Friday night estimates show this is already a mistake since it only pulled in $387 per theater, compared to Joker's $637 per theater.

Week 7 looks to also mark the first Weekend day where Episode 9 didn't even crack 1 Million dollars. Another thing that didn't happen to Joker until a full week later.



I'm actually surprised that it's hanging on as well as it did this week. I'm really thinking that anybody who was going to see it already has and at this point it's repeat views from people who are die hards or really like the direction the series took in the Disney Trilogy.

I still expect this turd to be thrown out of theaters weeks before Joker did.

I wonder... Did they cut enough theaters to ensure that they don't dip into double digits per theater one night this week? That would be quite embarrassing as that is something that didn't happen to Joker until it's 10th week, and something that only happened Joker on three separate nights in the first 15 weeks because of the amount of theaters that were cut per week. A sub $400 Friday night means this is a possibility. Although, because Episode 9 doesn't have an R rating it still might scrape on by without that embarrassment in week 7.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 3, 2020 12:52 PM

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Ouch....

Week 7's weekend woes for Episode 9.

Sunday night's take? Estimated only $607,000, and a total weekend take that is only slightly above what Joker pulled in for the weekend of Week 8.


Per theater averages at 2,202 theaters showing it are $387 on Friday, $787 on Saturday, and only $276 on Sunday. This could be the first week where it pulls in a figure only in the double digits per theater.

Last Monday saw a 75% drop from Sunday to Monday. If that were mirrored this week, that would be a per average total of only $69 on Monday.

That's not going to happen tough. Last week also only had a 30% drop from Saturday to Sunday and this week had a 65% drop on the same day, likely due in large part to the Superbowl. It's probably going to level off somewhere in between. I'm expecting a Monday per theater average of around $150, which outside of deal Tuesday is probably where it will more or less remain. I don't really expect to see a low of less than $125 to $130.

If we're going to see double digits, I'd expect it to be on Thursday when is typically the worst performing day of the week for any given movie outside of pre-release screenings.

If it doesn't happen this week, it will happen next week unless they slash at least another 30% of theaters showing it. And if that's all they do, it will be almost dead even with the theaters that were showing Joker on the same week and continue to be embarrassed by per theater averages.



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Tuesday, February 4, 2020 6:52 PM

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Uh oh...

Monday Night confirmed total: $282,947
Per theater average: $128

It might beat Joker's first sub-$100 day by three weeks on Thursday. It's already hit my predicted low for the week on Monday.

It's going to be close.

Next week for sure unless they slash about 50% of the theaters showing it.

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 12:20 AM

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You into fantasy football by chance?
You really are into the numbers, huh?

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 1:06 AM

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Man... I didn't even know it was Superbowl Sunday until my old man called me on Monday to tell me I had to check out a few of the commercials.


I probably would have enjoyed being a statistician. Maybe in another life.

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Wednesday, February 5, 2020 11:37 PM

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There's a Geeks and Gamers Youtuber who really breaks down the numbers of movies like you do. Fun for a bit, but it soon becomes noise to me.

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Thursday, February 6, 2020 12:00 AM

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I know of the channel. When I used to watch it on occasion it was just that one dude doing it out of the garage and flexing his sports car in the background. They seem to have quite a few more people posting on that channel these days.

I can only watch so much of that stuff these days.



But allow me to apologize ahead of time, because I'm probably going to be posting the numbers on this turd all the way until it's out of theaters.

It's kind of funny how it climbed rather quickly to a billion worldwide then just took a dump completely. One might say it looks as though somebody was manipulating numbers early on to reach that benchmark then decided that to push it any further would not be believable.



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Friday, February 7, 2020 9:50 AM

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I think I'm getting pretty good at this. Maybe I should see if the-numbers is hiring.

From Monday Morning:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't really expect to see a low of less than $125 to $130.



MONDAY: Feb 3, 2020 - $282,947 - PER THEATER: $128
TUESDAY: Feb 4, 2020 - $409,612 - PER THEATER: $186 (Deal Tuesday)
WEDNESDAY: Feb 5, 2020 - $284,085 - PER THEATER: $129
THURSDAY:

Numbers not available for Thursday yet, but will probably be around $120-$125. First time I've been pulling for Episode 9 to make the high end for the day just because my prediction would be right then.

EDITED TO ADD:

Thursday's numbers are in.

Feb 6, 2020 - $268,930 - PER THEATER: $122 (So close! )

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Friday, February 7, 2020 10:50 AM

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Yeah, Jeremy. He’s a bit of an acquired taste, but he generally sticks to the topic and leaves no doubt about his opinion. Since I started watching though, he has expanded geeks and gamers.
There can be half a dozen or more different people on the geeks and gamers videos, A couple of them , at least, are girls. Really change the attitude when even girl gigs are talking about the absurdities of the Mary Sue.
None of that Anna Sarkisian gamer gate nonsense which was fully contrived and phony.

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Friday, February 7, 2020 2:36 PM

WHOZIT


The real bad news is that STAR WARS is likely going to go the way of Flash Gordon and Buck Rodgers because of Johnson and J.J. Thanks to Bad Robot (or Bad Reboot) STAR WARS and STAR TREK may be damaged beyond repair, now J.J. is on his way to Warner Bros. to fuck up Marvel.

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Friday, February 7, 2020 7:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, Jeremy. He’s a bit of an acquired taste, but he generally sticks to the topic and leaves no doubt about his opinion. Since I started watching though, he has expanded geeks and gamers.
There can be half a dozen or more different people on the geeks and gamers videos, A couple of them , at least, are girls. Really change the attitude when even girl gigs are talking about the absurdities of the Mary Sue.
None of that Anna Sarkisian gamer gate nonsense which was fully contrived and phony.



His name is Jeremy too?

He doesn't come off like much of a geek to me. At least the other Jeremy (from the quartering) and the Nerdrotic dude look the part. The dude that started Geeks and Gamers always came off to me as the anti-Sarkisian, in that he wasn't really part of a culture but figured there was good money in it and he jumped in at the right time.

Smart to get girls on board though. Love watching when people from different races and sexes come out against the wack job lefty identitarians and put them in their place.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 7, 2020 8:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
The real bad news is that STAR WARS is likely going to go the way of Flash Gordon and Buck Rodgers because of Johnson and J.J. Thanks to Bad Robot (or Bad Reboot) STAR WARS and STAR TREK may be damaged beyond repair, now J.J. is on his way to Warner Bros. to fuck up Marvel.




Maybe it's time for all this stuff to die man.

I've heard that our culture has become completely stagnant and seemingly unable to come up with any new concepts anymore.


I don't believe this is true. I think the money and the power and decision making have just become too centralized and those people have been trying to milk old franchises for far too long.



There are some really great indie flicks out there that big studios of the last two decades would never have taken a chance on, proving that there are indeed new stories to tell (or at least new and interesting ways to tell them).

"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."


I don't think the end result financially is what they were going for, but maybe the best thing for the future of culture and creativity is to just tear it all down and start over again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 7, 2020 9:25 PM

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Yep, Jeremy does seem more of a sports ball and cars kinda guy, and less of a standard geek, but I'd like to think that fandom extends beyond stereotypes. Mr H Reviews is British, and also into cars as well, but has an affinity for HP Lovecraft, so I guess it takes all types.

Jeremy often appears w/ Gary - of Nerdrotic fame - on his group live streams, and also put in a good word for a fellow youtuber and helped get his channel back.
Ivan excels in ' fixing ' Star Wars trailers and story lines.


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Friday, February 7, 2020 9:38 PM

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I love the Lovecraftian Mythos. I just can't stand reading actual Lovecraft. To be fair though, it's been about 20 years since I've tried giving it a good read. Maybe it's not as painful to slog through in my old age as it was when I was still a kid.

I was first introduced to Lovecraft on accident, when I was at the library and saw a really cool cover art on a book called "Lovecraft 2000", which was a collection of short stories that were influenced by the works of Lovecraft. Not all of them were winners, but there was some really good stories in there. So when I went back I got a collection of Lovecraft's short stories and only made it through about 1 1/2 of them before I put it down and never read him again. It felt like homework. Like trying to read Tolkien or the Bible.


Games based in Lovecraft lore are fascinating to me. I really loved one called Call of Cthulhu on the original XBox, and when I saw a movie called Dagon I was thrilled when a very intense scene in the movie almost matched one of the most intense parts of that game shot for shot, even though Dagon was a much more modernized retelling of The Shadow Over Innsmouth.


I wish somebody could do justice to Lovecraft's ideas in the movies. Dagon was good, but it fell short of great, even though I enjoyed it a lot. Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness" is probably the best film ever made that was influenced heavily by Lovecraft, but it also was not without its flaws. Most other adaptations or movies influenced by Lovecraft are just plain not good. That is a shame.

Hopefully they never put Lovecraft in the hands of Michael Bay or JJ Abrams.



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Saturday, February 8, 2020 2:16 PM

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I know nothing of H.P. Lovecraft. What I find odd is how seemingly way out of sync these stories seem to be from the time period. That alone is truly unique. Kinda like Tolkien, but I can't claim to know anything about Lovecraft's back story. Just haven't seemed drawn to find out yet, but given the current state of sci-fi and super hero wokeness, going back to early sci-fi writing may be in order.

One reason why I'm so drawn to Godzilla and the Legendary franchise. So far, lacking utterly in any wokiness.

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Saturday, February 8, 2020 6:27 PM

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Did you ever see In the Mouth of Madness?

If you have, and you liked it, you'll probably at least like Lovecraftian stuff even if you find you don't enjoy the read either.

Another movie Sam Neil did, Event Horizon, also had a fairly Lovecraftian vibe to it. But I'm still kind of on the fence if I liked that one or not.

Dagon is also a good watch if you don't mind the indie vibe of it all.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 8, 2020 7:55 PM

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I'm not a fan of horror. So there's that.
Never saw Mouth of Madness.
Did see Event Horizon, and hated it.

Here, did you see this? You might like.


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Saturday, February 8, 2020 9:13 PM

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Well... as far as I know, Lovecraft is strictly horror. But when I was a kid I would have said the same thing about Steven King and been wrong about that.

I'm on the fence about which movie to recommend if you're willing to give one a shot. Either Dagon (which is directly taken from Lovecraft), or John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness (which is heavily influenced by Lovecraft).

The thing about Dagon is, it's not a Carpenter flick... If you like Carpenter, you might like In the Mouth of Madness even if you're not a fan of horror.

They only get a 6.2 (Dagon) and a 7.2 (Madness) on IMDB, but those are probably pretty good scores for the genre. Madness didn't do well at the box office at all, but has developed quite a cult following over the years. I'm not even sure if Dagon got a release at all or was just straight to video. To this day, I'm the only one I know IRL who has seen it (or even heard of it) and I can't even get anybody else to watch it. Which I think is a shame...


Neither of these movies are anything like Event Horizon. Maybe a small bit of overlap in Madness, even amplified a bit by the presence of Neil in both flicks, but I think you'd agree they were very different if you saw Madness.


I'm no horror fan myself these days. Loved it when I was a kid, but I kind of grew out of it in my early 20's. I think the only horror movie in the last 20 years outside of Dagon that I really liked was The Ring.

I've actually never seen a Hellraiser movie in my life. I'm still going to give that video a watch though.





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Sunday, February 9, 2020 12:15 AM

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Week Seven update, with a little bit of Week Eight thrown in.

A few notes about Week Seven before the graph, with thoughts on Week Eight afterward.

1. Week Seven for Episode 9 showed three nights where it grossed quite a bit less than $300k per night. A night less than $300k did not happen for Joker until Week Nine.

2. Week Seven for Episode 9 also saw all four week nights dip well below $200 per theater on average, compared to Joker only seeing three nights dip below $200 by a smaller margin in that week. (No nights in Week Eight for Joker came close to dipping this low, but fully expect every week night for Episode 9 to do so again, likely in the single digits this time... see below chart).

Not really much more to add about Week Seven other than it got thoroughly spanked by Joker. There was nothing really unexpected, no holidays to change numbers either way... It probably should be noted that Superbowl Sunday definitely hurt Episode 9 on the 2nd, as the standard Sunday compared to Friday/Saturday ratio was pretty far below normal... .


But the real news this week isn't about last week. It's about next week... After the graph.

KEY:
B.O DAYS = Day of the week / which week by number
T # = Number of theaters shown
GrP T = Gross per theater

TROSw = The Rise of Skywalker



B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T

WEEK 1:
____________________________________________________________________________

1st Friday - JOKER $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942

WEEK 2:
____________________________________________________________________________

2nd Friday - JOKER $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105

WEEK 3:
____________________________________________________________________________

3rd Friday - JOKER $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492

WEEK 4:
____________________________________________________________________________

4th Friday - JOKER $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270
4th Tuesda - JOKER $ 2,468,414 3,936 $__627 / TROSw $ 1,856,300 4,279 $__434
4th Wednes - JOKER $ 1,631,209 3,936 $__414 / TROSw $ 1,261,857 4,279 $__295
4th Thursd - JOKER $ 1,886,940 3,936 $__479 / TROSw $ 1,076,521 4,279 $__252
____________________________________________________________________________

WEEK 5:
____________________________________________________________________________

5th Friday - JOKER $ 3,810,641 3,519 $1,083 / TROSw $ 1,970,398 3,058 $__644
5th Saturd - JOKER $ 5,966,867 3,519 $1,696 / TROSw $ 3,529,380 3,058 $1,154
5th Sunday - JOKER $ 3,722,608 3,519 $1,058 / TROSw $ 2,789,270 3,058 $__912
*MLK B-DAY - JOKER $ 1,159,782 3,519 $__330 / TROSw $ 2,303,679 3,058 $__753
5th Tuesda - JOKER $ 1,751,588 3,519 $__498 / TROSw $ __950,522 3,058 $__311
5th Wednes - JOKER $ 1,103,216 3,519 $__314 / TROSw $ __627,448 3,058 $__205
5th Thursd - JOKER $ 1,089,813 3,519 $__310 / TROSw $ __593,642 3,058 $__194
____________________________________________________________________________

WEEK 6:
____________________________________________________________________________

6th Friday - JOKER $ 2,527,562 2,806 $__901 / TROSw $ 1,253,733 2,800 $__448
6th Saturd - JOKER $ 3,931,139 2,806 $1,401 / TROSw $ 2,543,434 2,800 $__908
6th Sunday - JOKER $ 2,762,602 2,806 $__985 / TROSw $ 1,775,511 2,800 $__634
*VTRNS DAY - JOKER $ 1,318,512 2,806 $__470 / TROSw $ __435,938 2,800 $__156
6th Tuesda - JOKER $ __904,313 2,806 $__322 / TROSw $ __620,379 2,800 $__222
6th Wednes - JOKER $ __626,545 2,806 $__223 / TROSw $ __419,854 2,800 $__150
6th Thursd - JOKER $ __602,413 2,806 $__215 / TROSw $ __404,032 2,800 $__144
____________________________________________________________________________


WEEK 7:
____________________________________________________________________________

7th Friday - JOKER $ 1,482,802 2,337 $__637 / TROSw $ __852,143 2,202 $__387
7th Saturd - JOKER $ 2,483,771 2,337 $1,063 / TROSw $ 1,726,280 2,202 $__784
7th Sunday - JOKER $ 1,371,816 2,337 $__587 / TROSw $ __634,460 2,202 $__288
7th Monday - JOKER $ __426,673 2,337 $__183 / TROSw $ __282,947 2,202 $__128
7th Tuesda - JOKER $ __609,986 2,337 $__261 / TROSw $ __409,612 2,202 $__186
7th Wednes - JOKER $ __443,301 2,337 $__190 / TROSw $ __284,085 2,202 $__129
7th Thursd - JOKER $ __328,871 2,337 $__141 / TROSw $ __268,930 2,202 $__122
____________________________________________________________________________


WEEK 8: (INCOMPLETE DATA)
____________________________________________________________________________

8th Friday - JOKER $ __767,979 1,410 $__545 / TROSw $ __524,000 1,746 $__300
8th Saturd - JOKER $ 1,202,017 1,410 $__852 / TROSw $ __XXXXXXX 1,746 $__XXX
8th Sunday - JOKER $ __365,138 1,410 $__550 / TROSw $ __XXXXXXX 1,746 $__XXX
8th Monday - JOKER $ __478,542 1,410 $__259 / TROSw $ __XXXXXXX 1,746 $__XXX
8th Tuesda - JOKER $ __478,542 1,410 $__339 / TROSw $ __XXXXXXX 1,746 $__XXX
8th Wednes - JOKER $ __471,316 1,198 $__393 / TROSw $ __XXXXXXX 1,746 $__XXX
8th Thursd - JOKER $ __400,309 1,198 $__334 / TROSw $ __XXXXXXX 1,746 $__XXX
____________________________________________________________________________




So...

I fully wasn't expecting to see anything in Green on the right side of our column anymore. But here we are...

Where WB and/or the theater owners collectively shaved 927 total theaters showing Joker between on Week Eight compared to Week Seven for a grand total of 1,140, well...

Disney and/or theater owners only decided that cutting only 456 theaters showing Episode 9 was the right move. This means that while Joker was in 135 more theaters than Episode 9 in Week Seven, we've flipped the script far in the other direction with Episode 9 now showing in 336 more theaters than Joker did in Week Eight.



Was everybody involved banking on Birds of Prey being the failure that it was? Besides a relatively weak box office otherwise, that's the only reason I can really come up with. With Birds of Prey only pulling in $13 Million on Friday night, and 2nd place Bad Boys For Life way behind with only $3 Million to show for it, nobody seems all that excited about anything in the theaters this week and it looks like most of them stayed home and watched something on Netflix instead.



While I can see the reasoning behind this is sound in theory, it's certainly not doing Episode 9 any favors when it comes to optics against Joker's Week Eight performance.

Though Week Eight did see Joker's first dip under $1 Million on a weekend night and also marks it's Eighth Saturday as the last night it would pull in more than $1 Million, Episode 9 barely cracked $500k on Friday, compared to Joker's $767k. With the amount of theaters so mistakenly lopsided in Episode 9's favor this week, that leaves it with a pathetic $300 per theater average on Friday compared to Joker's $545. Not a great way to start off the week.



Even more interesting is something I haven't noticed on another movie before. The amount of theaters showing Joker in Week Eight was cut mid-week by another 212 theaters on Wednesday night, bringing the total theaters showing it to only 1,198. If the same decision isn't made for Episode 9 by Wednesday, it will be playing in a whopping 548 more theaters than Joker was on Wednesday and Thursday night for the same week.

The last two weeks for Episode 9 have shown Thursday night making exactly 32% of what it made on the previous Friday night. If the powers that be don't reduce the numbers of theaters playing it by Wednesday night like they did for Joker, Thursday night could very well be our first sub $100 night at only $96 per theater at 32% of last night's take.

I strongly suggest that they cut the amount of theaters showing Episode 9 this week, otherwise it will hit this embarassing milestone a full two weeks before Joker did. And they'd better think long and hard about how many theaters they choose to cut beyond that as well, because Joker only saw three separate nights below $100 per theater average in its first 15 weeks.

Disney seems on par to have many more sub $100 nights pop up much earlier for this turd.







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Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:37 AM

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That's some deep analysis.

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Yep.

And to think, in a few week's I'll be working part time stocking shelves overnight again.

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Sunday, February 9, 2020 3:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This took a bit of work, but now with a template down it should be easier to add if I feel like making a bigger joke of Episode 8 than it's already made of itself.

Here we have a day by day comparison of Joker and Episode 8, including total gross per day, the date of that day for each respective movie, total amount of theaters and total gross per theater per day.


KEY:
B.O DAYS = Day of the week / which week by number
T # = Number of theaters shown
GrP T = Gross per theater

TROSw = The Rise of Skywalker



B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / DATE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / DATE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T
1st Friday - JOKER Oct 04 $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw Dec 20 $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER Oct 05 $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw Dec 21 $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER Oct 06 $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw Dec 22 $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER Oct 07 $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw Dec 23 $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER Oct 08 $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw Dec 24 $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER Oct 09 $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw Dec 25 $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER Oct 10 $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw Dec 26 $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942
2nd Friday - JOKER Oct 11 $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw Dec 27 $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER Oct 12 $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw Dec 28 $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER Oct 13 $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw Dec 29 $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER Oct 14 $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw Dec 30 $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER Oct 15 $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw Dec 31 $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER Oct 16 $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw Jan 01 $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER Oct 17 $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw Jan 02 $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105
3rd Friday - JOKER Oct 18 $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw Jan 03 $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER Oct 19 $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw Jan 04 $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER Oct 20 $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw Jan 05 $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER Oct 21 $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw Jan 06 $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER Oct 22 $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw Jan 07 $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER Oct 23 $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw Jan 08 $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER Oct 24 $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw Jan 09 $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492
4th Friday - JOKER Oct 25 $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw Jan 10 $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER Oct 26 $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw Jan 11 $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER Oct 27 $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw Jan 12 $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER Oct 28 $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw Jan 13 $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270




I'm wondering if WB just doesn't have the might that Disney has when it comes to dictating how many theaters are showing the movie in the states. It is possible that these theaters are choosing to show Episode 8 in more theaters than they did Joker for several reasons, namely that Joker was an R rated flick. Who can say? But the numbers show that not only has Episode 8 been shown in more theaters every single day of its release compared to Joker, but the number of theaters weren't cut down for Episode 8 until Week Four, where the number of theaters showing Joker were cut in Week Three as well as Week Four.

Because of this, as you can see, during Week Three, Joker actually started grossing more per theater than Episode 8 did on the 3rd Tuesday... one day before Joker started making more money per day in the US Box Office as a whole.

Whether it was the theaters themselves that chose how many screens to show it on, or a Directive in the contracts from Disney, the fact that they only cut it down by 137 theaters in Week Four seems to be a pretty big mistake, given that R Rated Joker has made more money per theater per day for Seven straight days, and if Monday's numbers and the steep downward trajectory in Episode 8's performance are any indication of the future, Joker was making nearly double per theater per day than Episode 8 is during the weekdays in Week Four.


I really hope that Episode 8 ends up getting a longer run in theaters than Joker did because of contractual obligations. It will be funny to see a few weeks of Episode 8 showings making low double digits per theater per day if they're forced to keep showing it.

Could we possibly see single digits if they keep it in the theaters long enough?








EDITED TO ADD:

For my own purposes if I choose to do these comparisons in the future, I may choose to keep the dates columns just to make it easier on myself making these graphs, but because you can't do a fraction of a font size number and "2" makes the lines bleed over, I'm going to remove the dates and use the larger font size to make them more readable. The dates are easy enough to compare to the graphs at the-numbers.com if anybody is really interested in them, but they're probably superfluous for these graphs.


B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T
1st Friday - JOKER $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942
2nd Friday - JOKER $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105
3rd Friday - JOKER $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492
4th Friday - JOKER $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270



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I see you are playing with tables now. Fun?

Feedback: with a black background such as on this site, a more vibrant color set can help. Instead of "green" perhaps "lime" or "55ff00" color. Instead of "red" perhaps "crimson" or "ff0055" color.

In this quoted post from 14 Jan, on my handheld device the 2nd table work-wraps. But on your other posts, starting 17 Jan, I don't get word-wrap, the table just continues off the page for the last 2 columns of data. I don't know how you did this, what was different. Perhaps this post with a change of font size mid-post is treated different than those without font size changed mid-post. Or something. On a handheld, turning it portrait or landscape makes the auto-sizing jump some. To combat this, and to help get the screen-sizing function to give the maximum readable image fitted to screen, I apply one line in the designated font and size to all "X"s, for the length that works best - and I state that this is "display stabilization row". With your TV monitor, this is likely not an issue, nor can you really adjust for it or tune it right.

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Sunday, February 9, 2020 3:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This took a bit of work, but now with a template down it should be easier to add if I feel like making a bigger joke of Episode 8 than it's already made of itself.

Here we have a day by day comparison of Joker and Episode 8, including total gross per day, the date of that day for each respective movie, total amount of theaters and total gross per theater per day.


KEY:
B.O DAYS = Day of the week / which week by number
T # = Number of theaters shown
GrP T = Gross per theater

TROSw = The Rise of Skywalker




B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / DATE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / DATE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T
1st Friday - JOKER Oct 04 $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw Dec 20 $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER Oct 05 $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw Dec 21 $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER Oct 06 $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw Dec 22 $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER Oct 07 $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw Dec 23 $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER Oct 08 $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw Dec 24 $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER Oct 09 $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw Dec 25 $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER Oct 10 $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw Dec 26 $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942
2nd Friday - JOKER Oct 11 $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw Dec 27 $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER Oct 12 $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw Dec 28 $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER Oct 13 $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw Dec 29 $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER Oct 14 $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw Dec 30 $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER Oct 15 $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw Dec 31 $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER Oct 16 $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw Jan 01 $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER Oct 17 $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw Jan 02 $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105
3rd Friday - JOKER Oct 18 $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw Jan 03 $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER Oct 19 $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw Jan 04 $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER Oct 20 $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw Jan 05 $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER Oct 21 $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw Jan 06 $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER Oct 22 $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw Jan 07 $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER Oct 23 $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw Jan 08 $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER Oct 24 $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw Jan 09 $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492
4th Friday - JOKER Oct 25 $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw Jan 10 $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER Oct 26 $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw Jan 11 $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER Oct 27 $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw Jan 12 $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER Oct 28 $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw Jan 13 $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270


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I'm wondering if WB just doesn't have the might that Disney has when it comes to dictating how many theaters are showing the movie in the states. It is possible that these theaters are choosing to show Episode 8 in more theaters than they did Joker for several reasons, namely that Joker was an R rated flick. Who can say? But the numbers show that not only has Episode 8 been shown in more theaters every single day of its release compared to Joker, but the number of theaters weren't cut down for Episode 8 until Week Four, where the number of theaters showing Joker were cut in Week Three as well as Week Four.

Because of this, as you can see, during Week Three, Joker actually started grossing more per theater than Episode 8 did on the 3rd Tuesday... one day before Joker started making more money per day in the US Box Office as a whole.

Whether it was the theaters themselves that chose how many screens to show it on, or a Directive in the contracts from Disney, the fact that they only cut it down by 137 theaters in Week Four seems to be a pretty big mistake, given that R Rated Joker has made more money per theater per day for Seven straight days, and if Monday's numbers and the steep downward trajectory in Episode 8's performance are any indication of the future, Joker was making nearly double per theater per day than Episode 8 is during the weekdays in Week Four.


I really hope that Episode 8 ends up getting a longer run in theaters than Joker did because of contractual obligations. It will be funny to see a few weeks of Episode 8 showings making low double digits per theater per day if they're forced to keep showing it.

Could we possibly see single digits if they keep it in the theaters long enough?








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For my own purposes if I choose to do these comparisons in the future, I may choose to keep the dates columns just to make it easier on myself making these graphs, but because you can't do a fraction of a font size number and "2" makes the lines bleed over, I'm going to remove the dates and use the larger font size to make them more readable. The dates are easy enough to compare to the graphs at the-numbers.com if anybody is really interested in them, but they're probably superfluous for these graphs.



B.O. DAYS -- MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T / MOVIE / GROSS ---/ T # / GrP T
1st Friday - JOKER $39,350,693 4,374 $8,997 / TROSw $89,615,288 4,406 $20339
1st Saturd - JOKER $32,476,803 4,374 $7,425 / TROSw $47,467,565 4,406 $10773
1st Sunday - JOKER $24,374,841 4,374 $5,573 / TROSw $40,301,011 4,406 $9,147
1st Monday - JOKER $ 9,702,049 4,374 $2,218 / TROSw $29,389,847 4,406 $6,670
1st Tuesda - JOKER $13,908,626 4,374 $3,180 / TROSw $20,270,474 4,406 $4,601
1st Wednes - JOKER $ 9,611,712 4,374 $2,197 / TROSw $32,165,681 4,406 $7,300
1st Thursd - JOKER $ 8,304,063 4,374 $1,899 / TROSw $30,586,950 4,406 $6,942
2nd Friday - JOKER $16,906,386 4,374 $3,865 / TROSw $26,069,973 4,406 $5,917
2nd Saturd - JOKER $22,137,778 4,374 $5,061 / TROSw $25,075,535 4,406 $5,691
2nd Sunday - JOKER $16,817,239 4,374 $3,845 / TROSw $21,244,082 4,406 $4,822
2nd Monday - JOKER $ 8,345,763 4,374 $1,908 / TROSw $15,302,130 4,406 $3,473
2nd Tuesda - JOKER $ 6,973,525 4,374 $1,594 / TROSw $13,217,698 4,406 $3,000
2nd Wednes - JOKER $ 4,910,895 4,374 $1,123 / TROSw $17,076,472 4,406 $3,876
2nd Thursd - JOKER $ 4,203,631 4,374 $__961 / TROSw $ 9,274,735 4,406 $2,105
3rd Friday - JOKER $ 8,584,376 4,090 $2,099 / TROSw $11,038,440 4,406 $2,505
3rd Saturd - JOKER $12,441,546 4,090 $3,042 / TROSw $14,319,903 4,406 $3,250
3rd Sunday - JOKER $ 8,225,918 4,090 $2,011 / TROSw $ 9,166,472 4,406 $2,080
3rd Monday - JOKER $ 2,742,836 4,090 $__671 / TROSw $ 2,978,242 4,406 $__676
3rd Tuesda - JOKER $ 3,801,598 4,090 $__929 / TROSw $ 3,981,109 4,406 $__904
3rd Wednes - JOKER $ 2,450,143 4,090 $__599 / TROSw $ 2,403,487 4,406 $__546
3rd Thursd - JOKER $ 2,413,101 4,090 $__590 / TROSw $ 2,165,596 4,406 $__492
4th Friday - JOKER $ 5,500,308 3,936 $1,397 / TROSw $ 3,892,246 4,279 $__910
4th Saturd - JOKER $ 8,186,141 3,936 $2,080 / TROSw $ 6,769,352 4,279 $1,582
4th Sunday - JOKER $ 5,561,586 3,936 $1,413 / TROSw $ 4,525,436 4,279 $1,058
4th Monday - JOKER $ 1,768,872 3,936 $__449 / TROSw $ 1,153,399 4,279 $__270


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I see you are playing with tables now. Fun?

Feedback: with a black background such as on this site, a more vibrant color set can help. Instead of "green" perhaps "lime" or "55ff00" color. Instead of "red" perhaps "crimson" or "ff0055" color.

In this quoted post from 14 Jan, on my handheld device the 2nd table work-wraps. But on your other posts, starting 17 Jan, I don't get word-wrap, the table just continues off the page for the last 2 columns of data. I don't know how you did this, what was different. Perhaps this post with a change of font size mid-post is treated different than those without font size changed mid-post. Or something. On a handheld, turning it portrait or landscape makes the auto-sizing jump some. To combat this, and to help get the screen-sizing function to give the maximum readable image fitted to screen, I apply one line in the designated font and size to all "X"s, for the length that works best - and I state that this is "display stabilization row". With your TV monitor, this is likely not an issue, nor can you really adjust for it or tune it right.



I see now that the red shows up well here in bold on monitor, but on my handheld it still is not as vibrant as the others.

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