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Nathan Fillion cast in new ABC pilot

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UPDATED: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 08:46
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Friday, April 25, 2008 4:16 PM

BIGRICHARD


Yay! First post! Anyway, on with the news:

"Firefly vet Nathan Fillion has been cast in the new ABC dramedy Castle to play a mystery author who helps the NYPD solve crimes. Fillion also recurs on Desperate Housewives and starred in the short-lived Drive."
- http://www.tv.com/story/11210.html


Sounds intriguing, and I think since Fillion is good at both the drama and the comedy, a dramedy suits him well.

The TV.com page for Castle has the synopsis:
"ABC Studios and Beacon television are producing this police drama in which the NYPD's homicide department is helped out by a writer of horror novels."

Certainly sounds interesting, but I suppose only time will tell if it has a good enough twist over all the other police dramas...

I'm just glad to see Nathan back on the TV, since I don't watch Desperate Housewives.

What do we think?

edit: thanks yinyang, I changed it to just the link.


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Friday, April 25, 2008 4:26 PM

STRANGEBIRD


I've never been huge on police dramas. I only watch a couple myself but I'll be giving this one a shot. Nate is a BDH and as such is an automatic must see. Or atleast try to see. I'm hoping they do more than just try for a standard Crime Drama with a twist and cast some great folks beside him.


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Friday, April 25, 2008 4:43 PM

YINYANG

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Friday, April 25, 2008 5:36 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by BigRichard:
"Firefly vet Nathan Fillion has been cast in the new ABC dramedy Castle to play a mystery author who helps the NYPD solve crimes.



I'm betting the title for this at the pitch meeting was, "Murder He F***ing Wrote." Anyway it has the captain so I'm watchin'. Maybe it'll even be good.

David

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Friday, April 25, 2008 7:55 PM

HUGHFF


While I'm always delighted to see old Browncoats getting work, I'd far rather that Nathan was cast in Serenity 2 or Firefly season 2.

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Friday, April 25, 2008 8:28 PM

GORAMMAN


Employment FTW!

I'll give it a try.

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Friday, April 25, 2008 11:50 PM

WYTCHCROFT


dramedy? thought that was somekinda gorram camel!

i'll watch Fillion in anything - the man deserves far more recognition....

(and a guest appearance in Dollhouse of course!)

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:04 AM

NCBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by wytchcroft:
dramedy? thought that was somekinda gorram camel!

i'll watch Fillion in anything - the man deserves far more recognition....

(and a guest appearance in Dollhouse of course!)



I totally agree Wychcroft!

Also, as the BDH's get more jobs, it inevitably leads people to Firefly/Serenity. I've converted several people this way.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:49 AM

SPACEANJL




'Cept we probably won't get it in the UK

But...NF in NY? (ooh, ohh, CSI:NY crossover!)

Why are there camels in this thread? Is this like the llamas?

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 5:19 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
(ooh, ohh, CSI:NY crossover!)



Wrong network sadly. Plus, forensic pathology not so funny. Funny being the medy part of dramedy.

David

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 5:43 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by daveshayne:
"Murder He F***ing Wrote."

Wow Dave, I'm glad I wasn't drinking soda just now...

ChrisisallLOL

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:01 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by daveshayne:
"Murder He F***ing Wrote."

Wow Dave, I'm glad I wasn't drinking soda just now...

ChrisisallLOL



*bow*



David

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:46 AM

EARLYWARNING


Lets hope his character has more friends than Jessica Fletcher had or it will be a short run. At least seven.




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Saturday, April 26, 2008 8:18 AM

ANONYMOUS1


Yeah! Dramedy!

I was going to watch it anyways...but this makes it even better.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:28 AM

HOPERULES


HURRAY!!! I so want to see Nathan on the TV screen for more than 3 minutes an episode. He definitely should be the main star of a show. Dramedy sounds like something that would be right up his ally.

May have been on the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:21 AM

HAKEN

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Quote:

Originally posted by BigRichard:
"ABC Studios and Beacon television are producing this police drama in which the NYPD's homicide department is helped out by a writer of horror novels."



Is he a horror or mystery writer? I just posted the same news over on Shiny Universe and referenced a Zap2It article that says he is a mystery writer.

Best,
Haken

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:43 PM

YINYANG

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Quote:

Originally posted by Haken:
Quote:

Originally posted by BigRichard:
"ABC Studios and Beacon television are producing this police drama in which the NYPD's homicide department is helped out by a writer of horror novels."



Is he a horror or mystery writer? I just posted the same news over on Shiny Universe and referenced a Zap2It article that says he is a mystery writer.

Best,
Haken



He could write horror/mystery novels.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 3:43 PM

BIGRICHARD


I did notice the mystery/horror thing.
If you haven't noticed, in my post alone, with the news excerpt and the synopsis of the show, both are mentioned, so I have no idea.
Mind you, at least this show isn't on Fox. After FF and Drive, I don't trust them with Cap'n Tightpants.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:16 PM

BORIS


No point in watching him on Desperate Housewives unless you are only satisfied with the "eye-candy" factor .He was not given the opportunity to really flex his acting muscle...disappointing really...though I know quite alot of women who are new Firefly/Serenity fans because of his brief appearances on DH,and they have subsequently influenced others to be fans (ie their spouses, kids siblings friends etc.) so I guess that's a positive. Hope this new series doesn't sink to the black murky depths of the cancellation ocean.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:32 PM

LWAVES


Yeah, Nathan is always a pleasure to watch and will usually steal whatever scene he's in. I couldn't bring myself to watch Desperate Housewives....it's just too bad (shudders at the thought). What I've seen of that piece of go-se always reminds me of Joey from Friends explaining the way you do soap acting, but with DH it isn't funny.

I'll be watching this though and I hope they make it different enough from Murder She Wrote so that it stands on it's own and doesn't get bogged down by the inevitable comparisons.

But he definitely needs more lead roles. Hopefully this is another step in the right direction.



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Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:16 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Glad to see the captain finding work. What with Ghost Whisperer and Medium there is definitely a market for these kind of shows out there.
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Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:43 AM

REDLAVA


Another mention of the Captains new pilot from zap2it.com

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-pilotcasting-nathanfillionalyssamila
no,0,6569233.story




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Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:06 PM

BORIS


At least we all know what the cast of Firefly is capable of. It breaks my heart when I see them appear on TV in parts that don't do them any justice, supporting actors that have no ability. Eg. poor Gena in "Standoff" The two leads in that are excruciating to watch..I actually chipped a tooth during the second and last episode of the show that I let myself watch. I was grinding my teeth with frustration. I actually do watch Desperate Housewives...they are all so effortlessly flawed, and even though I alternatively wince at and am amused at their antics. Alan Tudyk seems to have done alright since Firefly/Serenity. His part in CSI as an evil Pedophile was chillingly effective, and more of my friends have gotten into Firefly because they thought he was so good in Death at a Funeral. Also managed to rope some male friends into the verse due to their appreciation of Summer, in the sarah Connor Chronicles...so again the crappy TV is not all bad if it promotes a wider appreciation of Firefly...it may have to come back, as it's becoming better loved globally.

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:38 PM

QUIETUDE


Sounds like his movie 'The Water's Edge' which was meant to be a drama but really turned out to be more of a comedy.

In that movie he plays a writer as well and ends up solving a mystery while killing half the people in town.

The fight scene at the end of the movie has to be seen to be believed, its positively idiotic. Still I enjoyed Nathan's acting and he is main character in that movie.

Plus he does get shot in the arm just like in Serenity the Pilot episode.

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:19 PM

FLORALBUNNY


Never got up the courage to watch Water's Edge.
The new film, Trucker, is said to have some
pretty good Nathan at the end. (I've already
been to whedonesque this evening)

bun
~usual bun stuff~

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 7:41 PM

HOPERULES


Aw, you should watch The Water's Edge. It is fun. Definitely, not to be taken seriously. But Nathan is so darn attractive!!


May have been on the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Sunday, April 27, 2008 8:49 PM

MEG1448


I JUST watched the Water's Edge last night! Weird...he was good, the rest was...okay. Heh. Anyway, can't wait to see him and Alan in these new shows (though I was secretly hoping that they'd be in one together. )

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Monday, April 28, 2008 3:14 PM

FLORALBUNNY


Hoperules wrote in part:
Sunday, April 27, 2008 19:41
Aw, you should watch The Water's Edge. It is fun.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*the bun pokes SLiTHER into the player and
settles down to a nice, comfortable Nathan
experience*
Okay. You promise fun, yes? I've never even
seen a trailer. Heh.
Just gotta gather a little strength here...

bun
Frisky Browncoat
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Monday, April 28, 2008 4:54 PM

VETERAN

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Quote:

BigRichard wrote:
Friday, April 25, 2008 16:16
Yay! First post! Anyway, on with the news:

"Firefly vet Nathan Fillion has been cast in the new ABC dramedy Castle to play a mystery author who helps the NYPD solve crimes. ...



What's it called? Murder, he wrote.

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Monday, April 28, 2008 7:37 PM

HOPERULES


Well, I don't promise fun like Slither. It is just kind of a silly "evil small town" thriller in which Nathan steals the show with his acting and (OK, I'll just say it) sexiness.


May have been on the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Monday, April 28, 2008 8:33 PM

FLORALBUNNY


Quote:

Originally posted by Veteran:
Quote:

BigRichard wrote:
Friday, April 25, 2008 16:16
Yay! First post! Anyway, on with the news:

"Firefly vet Nathan Fillion has been cast in the new ABC dramedy Castle to play a mystery author who helps the NYPD solve crimes. ...



What's it called? Murder, he wrote.


Hi, Vet! Good to see you here.
There've been a load of "Murder, He Wrote" jokes.
And "Castle" really being "King."

We can just hope there are opportunities for the
lovely Fillion snark, the lovely Fillion doofusness, the lovely Fillion slanty gunbelt
STOPSTOPSTOP {no gunbelts allowed in NY-based
premise} a little paw-porn here and there, and
the occasional deserving female to receive the
lovely Fillion attention. Would be just ironic
to cast Morena, Jewel, Summer, or Gina in guest
spots. Or all of them. At once. He heeeeeee!

bun
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Monday, April 28, 2008 11:32 PM

BORIS


ugh! WATER'S EDGE! Daniel Baldwin as one of the mains in a movie is usually a pretty clear indication of the quality of the film. Nathan Fillion is great of course...considering the relative crappiness of the material he has to work with. I found "White noise the light" difficult to watch too. Though most of the actors did a great job, some of the ideas could have been better developed...I suppose actors have to take what they can get work wise if they don't have a regular gig....kind of like the rest of us.

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:55 AM

EAGERREAVER


Waitress is still my fave for Filliony goodness outside the 'verse.

What's your best guesses for the obligatory Firefly reference subtly embedded in the pilot for our collective amusement?

Put me down for a dialogue reference: 'Don't be a big damn hero' or variation thereof.

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:33 AM

SAMUELK


Don't you mean "Murder He Gorram Wrote"? :)

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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:58 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by samuelk:
Don't you mean "Murder He Gorram Wrote"? :)



You, ah, don't get to New York much, do you? Use gorramn' there and folks'll just back away slowly. If you're lucky. Probably f***ing saying something about all the f***ing weirdos in f***ing town.

David

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Thursday, May 1, 2008 6:22 AM

KNIGHTREYEDER


It's good to see Nathan in demand, he more than deserves it.

How are our other favorite Crew members (ie, ALL of them) doing? I know about Summer and the SC Chronicles and I saw Morena and Adam in the Sands of Oblivion (on the respectable side of shadiness only because of their acting)...but I haven't heard anything about the rest.

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Thursday, May 1, 2008 7:36 AM

SUASOR


Adam is in Chuck. Alan is doing a pilot for some comedy. Gina just had a baby and is busy with that. Morena is in some Stargate movies, and some other show I forget. Dunno about Sean.

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Friday, May 2, 2008 9:15 AM

BROWNEYEDGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by Suasor:
Adam is in Chuck. Alan is doing a pilot for some comedy. Gina just had a baby and is busy with that. Morena is in some Stargate movies, and some other show I forget. Dunno about Sean.



Adam is fun-ny in Chuck! And I haveto say, I would love to see Gina's baby, it's probably the cutest!

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Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:59 AM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:



Adam is fun-ny in Chuck! And I haveto say, I would love to see Gina's baby, it's probably the cutest!



having just watched angel 4 again - i'm not sure about that ha ha ha!

actually - it'll be a helluva kidling, can you IMAGINE the charisma genes that kid'll have. Plus the kick ass and gun toting skills and computer savvy that a child of Zoe and Morpheus - oh, wait - real life real life - erk!

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Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:06 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by BigRichard:
Yay! First post! Anyway, on with the news:

"Firefly vet Nathan Fillion has been cast in the new ABC dramedy Castle to play a mystery author who helps the NYPD solve crimes. Fillion also recurs on Desperate Housewives and starred in the short-lived Drive."

Oh, PLEASE Let this get picked up by the network... please please please...

I love my captain, but I won't watch Desperate Housewives. I understand, a fella's gotta pay his mortgage and vet bills, but a girl's gotta have her standards.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:34 AM

WENDYPOPS


http://castletv.net/

Am i the only one who thinks this sounds like utter crap? Nathan's an awesome actor and all, but even that won't save a programme that sounds this bad. And the pictures look so... perfect. Like too perfect. And they compare it to Moonlighting, which says it all. It's being made several decades too late.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:47 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


Quote:

Am i the only one who thinks this sounds like utter crap? Nathan's an awesome actor and all, but even that won't save a programme that sounds this bad. And the pictures look so... perfect. Like too perfect. And they compare it to Moonlighting, which says it all. It's being made several decades too late.
So sorry, I haven't been able to keep up with the media on this, so I'm not sure what measure of crap it is, utter or otherwise.

Moonlighting was utter crap. That I will agree with. However, whoever compared it to Castle probably wasn't taking that into consideration at all. I'd say it was likely meant to appeal to the demographic that was attracted to Moonlighting - that being the less discriminate female 24-35 demographic who were probably attracted to the main character... um... what's his name, and actually liked the show. Hard to believe, I know, but they're out there.

But again, I haven't been keeping up with the media.

One thing about being a Firefly fan, you should know to not judge a series by its media, which is geared toward the bottom line, not quality. Had we all judged Firefly by its media, this site wouldn't even exist.

I would submit that utter crap is strictly in the eye of the beholder. I mean there are obviously people who like Desparate Housewives, right?


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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:55 AM

WENDYPOPS


Quote:

Originally posted by Channain:

I would submit that utter crap is strictly in the eye of the beholder.



I totally agree. And i usually watch the first episode of something i might be interested in to see if it's as bad/good as it seems and go from there.
I watched the first episode of 'Heroes' even though it just seemed like a jazzed up X-men programme to me, and just didn't get what all the fuss was about.
I was just wondering if i was the only one who thinks Castle doesn't look that good. I'll give it a go, but if i don't like it, i won't keep watching it just because of Nathan. One good actor can never make up for bad writing and direction (See: Numb3rs).

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:58 AM

WENDYPOPS


Quote:

Originally posted by WendyPops:
One good actor can never make up for bad writing and direction.



Which is why i will watch anything by Joss Whedon without hearing a word about it. His writing and directing (and people he gets to write and direct his shows) are f*cking awesome.

(Quoting myself, is that bad?)

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:04 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


Quote:

WendyPops said:
I totally agree. And i usually watch the first episode of something i might be interested in to see if it's as bad/good as it seems and go from there.

Thanks to Firefly, I've gone to 3-4 episodes, although if I really still can't stand it - as in it causes actual excruciating physical pain to watch it - by the second episode, I'm done.

I didn't fall for Firefly until "Our Mrs. Reynolds", which was the third episode aired when it was on TV. Had I based my opinion on "Train Job" or "Bushwacked" I would -NOT- have been back. At all. Train Job was imbalanced, and Bushwacked was...

You may need to start your own thread valuing the crap factor of the premise for Castle, just to see what people say. My advice would be to start it with a less inflamatory statement that doesn't imply that Nathan made a bad career choice. Start with the "Nathan is a great actor line" and then move on. That way you won't get smacked by the Nathan devotees around here - of which I am one. He hasn't left the wallpaper on my home computers or my laptop in three years.

Actually, start with "Nathan is a god." That will win them over. Then you can probably bash Castle all you want.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:21 AM

WENDYPOPS


Thanks for the advice.
I'd never say Nathan made a bad career choice, if it's what he wants to do. And regardless of whether i end up liking Castle or not, i still wouldn't say no

I did have the advantage (/curse, depending on how you look at it) of first watching Firefly on dvd and was utterly won over instantly with the 'Serenity' pilot. I've given other shows a lot longer than 3 episodes; on some occasions it was more than worth it... on others, well, it's time i'll never get back. And there is at least one show (another that lasted only one series) i still haven't made my mind up on. I LOVE the idea of the show, the storylines are good, the characters have so much potential... but the acting is pretty bad and they needed better direction.

In conclusion, the world of television is a merky one. Who knows what you're going to get?

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:33 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


Quote:

Originally posted by WendyPops:
In conclusion, the world of television is a merky one. Who knows what you're going to get?

Television is merely advertising with bits of entertainment added to lure us in to watch the advertising.

Remember what I said about the bottom line?

See, this is how "all paranoid and crotchety" you get when you're a veteran from the Throes of Cancellation. The difference between me and most others around here is that I don't hold Fox personally responsible for anything. I have maintained my love-hate relationship with all networks at large because all networks are evil. Every single one is responsible for cancelling or torturing a program that I loved at one time or another. Started with Man From Atlantis on NBC when I was 12. They replaced it with Dallas.

ABC made the mistake of airing Galactica 1980, which is the reverse of cancelling, but it tarnished the whole genre for decades.

I just dated myself, didn't I?

Lately I've become a bit of a hypocrit, because I would much rather watch TV on DVD. I'm done with wrestling with rescheduling, stupid commercials that I have memorized in the first 20 minutes, and all that malarky. Gimme my program, gorramit!

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:42 AM

WENDYPOPS


Yeah, i don't actually own a TV. When i schedule myself around a little box... well, that will never happen.

When i said 'the world of television' i should have said 'the world of programmes made for television'

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:46 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by WendyPops:
When i said 'the world of television' i should have said 'the world of programmes made for television'

And I'll still maintain that it's all advertising - even the programmes themselves have product placement from time to time. Just watch. Every time someone turns up with an iPod, or an Apple, or a Dell, that's advertising.

Paranoid... Crotchety... Well, and I am in the advertising business. I'm a graphic designer, so I know what viral advertising looks like.

We'll just have to learn how to coexist together, I guess. I shouldn't try to make you so jaded.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:54 AM

WENDYPOPS


Product placement, yeah, of course. I did a Film & Media Studies degree. Films & tv programmes advertise more than just products, though. They advertise ideas, ways of life, opinions, fashion...

Advertising is everywhere. Only if you were a hermit would you never be exposed to advertising. And i have hermitage ambitions.

I'm already past jaded.

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