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Doctor Who, Season Two Discussion

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:05 AM

RELFEXIVE


The Girl In The Fireplace - easily the best episode of the season, and in my Top Five New Eps for sure.

Fantastic!

And I agree - it's like DT has been in the role for years, he's got it down Just Right.



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Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:19 AM

HAZE


Also did you notice that the Doctor “Dances” in this episode???

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:46 AM

CASUALTY


I love, love, loved this episode. I am now officially hooked. I liked it well enough before, but now I'm a fan.

Rose standing on the otherside of the fireplace

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knowing the doctor can't come back through the portal

just says so much about her charachter and what she feels. Billie Piper done good. Who knew I'd ever say that one?

.... why you gotta play that song so loud? Because we want to, coz we want to......

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:50 AM

HAZE


Quote:

Originally posted by Casualty:
I love, love, loved this episode. I am now officially hooked. I liked it well enough before, but now I'm a fan.

Rose standing on the otherside of the fireplace

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knowing the doctor can't come back through the portal

just says so much about her charachter and what she feels. Billie Piper done good. Who knew I'd ever say that one?

.... why you gotta play that song so loud? Because we want to, coz we want to......

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"Alison, don't you know this world is killing you?" - Nathan Fillion sang me a song!



Now now, just because she is doing a good job acting is no reason to inflict her music on the world again


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Saturday, May 6, 2006 12:37 PM

GIXXER


Just to introduce the right note of dread for the Cybermen, a legendary figure appeared in the trailer

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Rodney: “Why do they call him Trigger? Is it because he carries a gun?”
Del: “No it’s because he looks like a horse”


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Sunday, May 7, 2006 5:36 AM

J6NGO1977


Yeh great episode. It reduced me to tears at the end. When Rose asked The Dr 'are you alright?' the Dr just quips back, with a forced smile 'I'm always alright'. However we all know he wasn't :(. Tenant has give the Dr alot of depth. The Dr falling in love is something we hever see. I can understand though as the Madame Pomferey was very beautiful :)

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Sunday, May 7, 2006 12:37 PM

NEEDY

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Quote:

Originally posted by j6ngo1977:
Yeh great episode. It reduced me to tears at the end. When Rose asked The Dr 'are you alright?' the Dr just quips back, with a forced smile 'I'm always alright'. However we all know he wasn't :(. Tenant has give the Dr alot of depth. The Dr falling in love is something we hever see. I can understand though as the Madame Pomferey was very beautiful :)



And apparently Sophia Myles (who played Madame Pomferey) and David Tennant are dating in RL.

As for the ep, well I missed it on Saturday (I struggle to remember its on, I'm so used to nothing being worth watching on saturday night), but I managed to see it tonight.
I didn't think it was "the best episode ever", nor was it as good as last week's ep, but hey, we all have different opinions right?
Having said that, it was still a great episode, with many laugh out loud moments, such as

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The doctor walking in drunk whilst Rose and Mickey are being held by the bad guys. He was just downright hilarious... throughout the episode in fact



I thought the villains of the episode were really creepy too - a mixture of V (in V for Vendetta) and that robot villain from Hellboy
What I was pleasantly surprised by most of all though, was the musical score.
I'm not really a fan of the score in Dr Who - I think it's more distracting and off-putting than anything else, but I thought tonights was perfect... well, not perfect, but certainly a lot better than before.

Of the three episodes I've seen in the new series (I missed episode 2) and the christmas special, I've loved every one. Enough to make me want to buy the big boxset when it is released in November.
And, you know that old thing about your favourite doctor being the one you grew up with, or first saw... well for me, even though I grew up watching Sylvester McCoy and loved Chris Eccleston's performance, David Tennant is my favourite doctor by far!

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Rodney: “Why do they call him Trigger? Is it because he carries a gun?”
Del: “No it’s because he looks like a horse”




LMAO!!!

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One of the best bits of the episode -

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The Doctor crashing the party by smashing through the window on his horse, then looking at Pomferey with a proud smirk and giving her a wink. Classic!


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Sunday, May 7, 2006 1:02 PM

GIXXER


Sacre iliac!

I have to take issue with y'all referring to Sophia Myles as Madame Pomfrey.

The character's real name was of course, Madame Cholet.


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Monday, May 8, 2006 3:48 AM

NEEDY

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Quote:

Originally posted by Gixxer:
Sacre iliac!

I have to take issue with y'all referring to Sophia Myles as Madame Pomfrey.

The character's real name was of course, Madame Cholet.




Oops, my bad.
To be honest, I couldn't remember her name, so I looked at the above posts.
Now I've washed my hands of it, I'll hang my head in shame

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Monday, May 8, 2006 7:02 AM

J6NGO1977


Sophie Myles you saaaaayyy. *google for pictures* :D

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Monday, May 8, 2006 10:05 AM

NEEDY

The road to Hel is paved with good intentions


Yeah Sophia Miles *drool*
There should be a few more pics of her out there now that she's done tristan and isolde and all that.
I first saw her in Underworld and saw a picture of her as Lady Penelope in Thunderbirds (Didnt see the movie itself) which made me want to find pictures of her then... but there weren't that many.
Hopefully that's since changed

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Friday, May 12, 2006 10:15 PM

J6NGO1977


It's Saturday morning and I am looking at my TV screen waiting for tonights episode with the cybermen :). I am such a sad geek .LOL

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 2:13 AM

SIMONWHO


I loved The Girl in the Fireplace. I had hoped that we wouldn't hear what was in the letter but it was just so sad, that she was still hopeful of his return and...

Plus lots of other neat moments too: "Sunday roast" (or not); the robot's logic; the Doctor suddenly running into a horse; his rubbish attempts at hiding.

How many kids checked very very thoroughly under their beds on Saturday?

Hopefully those same children will be scared witless tonight. Cybermen should be as frightening as possible.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:42 AM

GIXXER


Cybermen.

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Not really all that fantastic, to be honest. Came over like big metal beasties, instead of that really unhealthy, sick, wrongness that you got off the old ones.

The arch baddie was just absolutely out-and-out hold your nose rubbish. The stary-eyed, clenched-buttock school of villainous acting lives. Unfortunately. (Grit your teeth, tense your neck, and skeak the usual clunky lines at the gack of your throat in a staccato nanner, and you're right there).

Rest of the cast great as usual, and not because of Rose dressed up as a maid, although that was awfully nice, I have to say. Mickey a total revelation, and good to see Pete again.

Nice Sky Captain stuff, except, of course with something actually happening on screen

And West Ham lost on penalties. Bugger.



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Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:55 AM

NEEDY

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Whilst I don't think the episode was bad, I do admit that it wasn't as good as others - I think though, because it's a two part episode, it has resulted in this first part seeming a big slow in places - I think the 2nd part will be fab.

Did anyone else watch Dr Who Confidential?
(possible spoilers for next ep follow)

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Apparently Mickey will prove himself quite the hero in the 2nd part.
I'm worried though, given that we learnt some background for him in this episode, that we might not see him again.
Maybe it's just me but... late character development? a chance for a character to prove himself a hero? I've got the feeling that RTD is giving the character the send-off.
I just hope I'm wrong. I'd like to see him stick around a bit longer at least.



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Saturday, May 13, 2006 10:13 AM

HAZE


This episode did not work for me. Terrible TERRIBLE main villain and lacklustre script. I might have been more palatable if the Doctor had of been on screen more but as it stands this was a big let down.


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Saturday, May 13, 2006 10:20 AM

CITIZEN


The villian struck me as a bit of a Tom Baker davros strangly enough...

I missed a good chunk of the episode though because I was having a row with a Bus driver who tried to run over a friend of mine...



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Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:17 AM

GIXXER


One of those bus drivers, eh?

Got a bumper sticker "Keep Death Off The Roads..."

then under that, another one

"...and on the pavement, where it belongs."


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Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:18 AM

CITIZEN


Strangly enough, yes. The bus mounted the curb...



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Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:19 AM

J6NGO1977


I agree with Haze on this. I thought the Cybermen look brilliant and they where pretty scary, however they could have done much better with the script. It just did not seem to be up to scratch of previous episodes. Last weeks episode and 'Tooth and Claw' where very good, however this week was an anti climax :(. I don't think trigger did well as a baddie. I was not convinced. Usually with Dr Who I've hated it when the episode has ended because I just want it to continue but this episode I just felt a bit deflated :(

No what I wanna see brought back are the Sea Devils. They always scared me :)

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:59 AM

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG


What a lacklustre introduction for the cybermen. How do you make a two-part cybermen story that is not scary and ultimately not particularily interesting?
I have trouble comprehending why this episode actually went out as it was. As much as I enjoyed the cybermen being back (though apparently these are just cybermen not THE cybermen) this was definately the first bump in what has so-far been a hugely entertaining season.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 1:35 PM

GIXXER


Cybermen can actually be scary. The Patrick Troughton Doctor story from God knows how many years back.

Trapped, with a mob of Cybermen advancing across the surface of the Moon towards the Moonbase.

I can't remember what happened next, but the image has stuck with me. Probably immaturity had a lot to do with it, I can only have been 5 or 6 years out of College at the time.

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Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:39 AM

HAZE


That was much better than last week, the Cybermen do look a but like horde of evil line dancers in some scenes but its amazing how much downsizing trigger help the episode! Also it just wouldn’t be Doctor Who without some mind control now and then.


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Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:20 AM

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I thought 'The Age Of Steel' was a very solid episode for the most part - until the last ten minutes, when it became something else. Just seeing the characters go through changes and deal with what's happened, and make decisions based on what they've done, and their past, and what their future may hold - the whole end of this episode was wonderful, I thought. Great to see Mickey finally grow up.

Bring on next week - looks like it's going to be very creepy!

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Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:07 AM

SPACEANJL


Gonna jump on the end of this here. Thing that freaked me out wasn't the big bad Terminator stomping - it was the quiet bits. Everyone laughing simultaneously at the downloaded joke. (V Fisher King that whole freeze and move thing) Or Sally Phelan.

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Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:21 PM

GIXXER


"... horde of evil line dancers ..."

Haze. You git.

(The therapy is helping, but I'm still some way off managing gracious acceptance of someone else's brilliant one-liners...)

I thought the second half redeemed the story in a big way. Not much Lumic. And the speed of the Cybermen! Have a job outrunning them. I think they'd be vulnerable if you pulled over a gobstopper machine. Some gags never get old.

I still can't understand the soundtrack policy, though. Sound effects and foreground music totally drowning out the dialogue.

It's like the sound engineer's previous job was on tour with Motorhead, and they sacked him because they realised that he was actually deaf.

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Monday, May 22, 2006 10:21 AM

HAZE


I’ve heard many people complaining about the music in series being too loud. I can’t say as I’ve noticed this but my TV automatically levels audio so this might be the reason.

How is everyone else finding the audio?


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Monday, May 22, 2006 9:01 PM

J6NGO1977


There was a sketch last night on Rory Bremner having a skit at the loud music in Season 2. I've just got a standard dolby surround sound system and I don't find a problem with it.

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Monday, May 29, 2006 4:43 AM

J6NGO1977


I see no comments about last nights episode. I did like the episode however it explained nothing about alien (Maurean Lipman). The no face thing was very scarey. You steal someones face and you take everything about that person. They did it in The Twilight Zone and that's one of the most memorable episodes. I just think the episode never explained enough. DT was good as always. Seeing him angry was good. I like his angry side. DOn't piss off Dr Who .LOL

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Monday, May 29, 2006 5:32 AM

GIXXER


Nobody messes with Billy Mumy.

"Lollop"

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Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:34 AM

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I too thought there was not enough explanation for the alien in form of the lovely maureen lipman.

Although the costumes and teddy boy look of The Doc was fantastic, oh and the video cassette gag was great.

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Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:15 AM

SIMONWHO


Anyone else think there were not one but two Firefly/Serenity references in The Idiot's Lantern? "No power in the world can stop me" and "You can't stop the wire" did rather echo to me.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 1:11 PM

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Quote:

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Anyone else think there were not one but two Firefly/Serenity references in The Idiot's Lantern? "No power in the world can stop me" and "You can't stop the wire" did rather echo to me.



I don't think it was intended but yes I thought the same when the Dr shouts angrily 'No power in the world can stop me', I instantly thought of River and then when Maureen Lipman says 'You can't stop the wire' I instantly thought of Mr Universe. I think it's just us being sad Firefly geeks .LOL

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 10:17 AM

HAZE


My PC has been in for servicing for over a week (again) so I haven’t been able to comment here for a while.

I liked tonight’s episode. But the thing is, I don’t get why the Doctor was so amazed by the fact that the planet was is orbit of a black hole. Rassilon captured one and used it to power Gallifrey for Rassilons sake! When I found out the episode was set around a black hole and would feature an enemy that the Doctor has faced before my mind immediately went to Omega and the Master (both trapped in the event horizon of different black holes) but no its another enemy trapped in the… event… horizon.. of… a… The Doctors enemy’s really should just stay away from black holes!

The old enemy might just refer to the person doing the beasts voice , but then again maybe not. We shall see next week.


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Saturday, June 3, 2006 11:43 AM

RELFEXIVE


I had wondered that myself, but it's one thing for Time Lords to ensnare a black hole and call it the Eye Of Harmony, and another for it to occur in the way it did.


But anyways.... for those who saw Confidential, what was the music playing for the last part of it, the orchestral piece? It's from a movie soundtrack, but I can't remember which one and it's really annoying me!



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Saturday, June 3, 2006 3:01 PM

J6NGO1977


Tonights episode was fantastic..... That is all I have to say :)

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Friday, June 9, 2006 4:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by j6ngo1977:
Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
Anyone else think there were not one but two Firefly/Serenity references in The Idiot's Lantern? "No power in the world can stop me" and "You can't stop the wire" did rather echo to me.



I don't think it was intended but yes I thought the same when the Dr shouts angrily 'No power in the world can stop me', I instantly thought of River and then when Maureen Lipman says 'You can't stop the wire' I instantly thought of Mr Universe. I think it's just us being sad Firefly geeks .LOL




Not to mention that rather shiny getup of his.



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Friday, June 9, 2006 10:01 AM

J6NGO1977


I totally love the new Dr WHo series. My friend hates it and I found out why. Because he found out it was the same dudes who did 'Queer as Folk'. I told him I hated Queer as folk I thought it was rubbish. I'm not really interested in seeing dudes kissing each other but it was also nonsense. However, in the words of Seinfeld, there's nothing wrong with that :). I told him how homophobic he was and told him George Lucas was gay and then he cried .LOL. I dont care if those guys are gay, green or wearing a santa claus suit, they write a good script :)

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:48 AM

SIMONWHO


Strangely Queer as Folk fixed my homophobia even though I wasn't a huge fan of it. At the time, anything with a Who reference merited a watch. Nowadays I wouldn't have enough hours in the day, what with not one, not two but three, three Doctor Who programmes every week.

And yes, last week's episode was amazing. Let's just hope the second part matches up.

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:06 AM

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F'ckin' A!

Whoa.

Seriously good.

'nough said.

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Remember those who fell so that you could stand.

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:25 AM

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I think Stillshiny is right, the Doc's a Browncoat Perhaps a posh looking one yes. But he's got a shiny boat....

Of what i saw this weeks episode was cool. Although a bit of a homage to Doom though



Although from what i've seen of next weeks preview,

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i think were going to see more of the inside of the TARDIS




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Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:09 AM

J6NGO1977


Blindingly good episode. A great 2 parter. Also a good homage to Aliens and Event Horizon. Fantastic . Dr Who just goes from strength to strength. I have now forgotten the whole sorry Sylvester McCoy era. Dr Who has redeemed itself in my eyes :)

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:53 AM

RELFEXIVE


It was rather good, wasn't it?

And I hope we do get to see more of 'that', Choo, should be fun!


P.S. The music I babbled about last week, for those of you who care - my guess was right, the Confidential website confirmed it as the theme from Out Of Africa.



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Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:23 PM

J6NGO1977


I am just on a 'Big Brother' forum and some guy is slagging off Dr Who. Hmmmmm I'll be back guys I shall deal with this idiot LOL

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:32 AM

RELFEXIVE


Hmm, well, encountering folk like that is your own fault for being on a BB forum, isn't it?



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Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:06 AM

J6NGO1977


Quote:

Originally posted by RelFexive:
Hmm, well, encountering folk like that is your own fault for being on a BB forum, isn't it?



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This is very true Rel. Sad but true I am a BB fan .LOL. I only go the BB forum when I am hankering for a bit of conflict. FFF is my true home because all you guys are shiny and we all have a common goal :D

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:08 AM

SIMONWHO


I'm just glad Who is holding up in the ratings, even beating the football match that was on opposite it on ITV.

Personally, I'd rather they scheduled it in a proper prime time slot. I waited until it was dark to watch the episode and it was much scarier for it.

Gravity schmavity.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:10 AM

CRUITHNE3753


J6NGO1977:
Quote:

Also a good homage to Aliens and Event Horizon.

Bit of The Abyss in there, too...

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:02 AM

PEULSAR5

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If no one minds a post from someone across the pond--We're a little behind on our "Who"--the Sci-Fi Channel just aired the 2nd part of the season 1 finale Friday night but a lot of us very excited about the new season that should start soon.

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