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Final Fantasy: Advent Children

POSTED BY: EST120
UPDATED: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:03
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Monday, July 10, 2006 3:07 AM

EST120


So I rented this over the weekend and watched it. I had a couple thoughts.

1. The animation was really great, especially the textures. Clothing, metal, reflections in glass and water. Truly outstanding. The best I have ever seen. The movement of the human characters was excellent as well. The only thing that was a little off was the actual faces and hands of the characters. Still not quite right, especially when they talk, but still very good.

2. In comparison to the other Final Fantasy movie, I think the "look" of Advent Children was better. Forget plot and animation (since the other Final Fantasy is a little older). The color contrasts like in the forest with the white trees and Vincent's red cape. Or the gray look of the town, Edge, contrasting with the heroes and the big dragon. Pretty neat-o.

3. The complete lack of the natural laws of physics was cool. I mean, the movie is called Final FANTASY, right?

The story was a little hard to follow for someone who has not played the game, but I could figure it out.

Overall, very enjoyable. Anyone care to add their thoughts?

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Monday, July 10, 2006 3:59 AM

DEEPGIRL187


I did enjoy the film, but I had a few qualms as well.

I kind of felt that the movie was unfinished. Maybe it's from playing the game, but it felt like there wasn't enough of a story. I think they could have done more with the film plot-wise.

Then again, the graphics are so good that you almost forget anything else.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:24 AM

CHRISISALL


I haven't seen it; should I rent, or just buy?
(I saw the first one 5 times, but don't own it)

Final Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:44 AM

EST120


Amazon had it for cheap ($14) yesterday, so maybe just buy it. If you like these kinds of movies. Personally, I thought (in terms of story as well as animation) that it is superior to the other movie.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:47 AM

CHRISISALL


Thanks for the tip, est.

Soon, very soon Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:51 AM

JUTIN77


it is a great movie with an intricuit plot and wild action sequences... definately a rarity here in the states...

I rented it and immediately went out and bought it.
you gotta see the movie twice to understand the plot, then again I never got past disc 1 of the game, I could go on and on but I'll just say ditto to the first post...

and I've seen complaints that the movie is too short, which is true... it's a movie, not a video game

the movie is great and is definately a must see

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:52 AM

TRISTAN


I saw the trailer for it playing at the local videostore and stood entranced at the images. As soon as it came out, we rented it, and I watched in rapt attention. Plot? Characters? Oh, those were in there?!? I was too involved in the animation to be bothered with things like that! I have never played the games, and have no idea about the story, but I love computer animated movies. This one got me because of the very things you mentioned; textures, movement, everything. Yes, the face thing still bothers me a bit, but I quickly got past that.
Enjoyable movie...I hope they make another.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:55 AM

HKCAVALIER


Chris, whatcha gots ta do is plunk down the 25 bucks or so and buy a used Playstation so you can play Final Fantasy VII! It's worth your time, seriously. It was the first video game I ever played beyond like Tetris or something and it openned up a whole world of cross-cultural folklore. Firefly fits perfectly into the strange Anime inspired tradition. These games are seriously amazing and bear only the slightest resemblance to the movie you saw. Imagine a movie that lasts 40 hours! That's what "playing" these games is like. 40 hours of intricate political and spiritual twists and turns. You know how they have these three day shadow puppet plays in South East Asia that folks stay up all night to watch? That's what I'm talkin' about, all in the privacy of your own home! After you finish with FFVII you can run out and get IX and X (skip VIII, everyone does). You'll be glad you did!

HKCavalier

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:04 AM

CHRISISALL


Y'all are gonna force me to be a good consumer, aren't you?

Just a monkey in the wrench Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:14 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by JuTin77:
and I've seen complaints that the movie is too short, which is true... it's a movie, not a video game



I agree. Seems that fans of the game who played the game for hours and hours to beat it wanted a movie that was also hours and hours long. The movie was more than an hour and half, plenty long for a feature length film. To be honest, it was quite difficult to follow the finer points of the plot but the overall story is pretty easy to grasp. Cloud is good. Kadaj is bad. Sephiroth is REALLY bad and wants to take over the world. Rude and Reno are comic foils (They were great, by the way. I loved them). Tifa is.... well, kind of hot.

This brings me to another point. I love the between scenes movies in computer games. I have often wished that more movies would get made like this one. It would be really great. In the extra features, the director comments that they creators wanted to make a movie for the fans. I wish that happened more often for other games.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:34 AM

HAZE


Final Fantasy VII is my God so I might not be impartial but here is my take.

Final Fantasy VII is bliss, bliss on tap, bliss in a pie, I love it more than is healthy, so to compare Advent Children to a religious experience would not be far off.Every single shot could be used as a the coolest wall paper you will ever have (seriously just press pause at random).

High points

The Full Group Vs Bahamut

Vincent in general

And of coarse the one everyone wanted to see

Cloud Vs Sephiroth!!

Oh my God I love it! I love how utterly unbothered Sephiroth is by everything. Buildings are flying Cloud is working hard but Sephiroth is just effortlessly gliding along as if it was the easiest thing in the world. I love that in a Movie where everyone is inhumanly fast Sephiroth is still faster.

I love that fact that Cloud is still the only character in with no theme.

I just love it in general.

If there there was one thing I didn't like it was the fact that Aerith was such a living part of the movie. It somewhat detracts from the horror of Sephiroths murder of her

Also if could be argued that Cloud would not be able to take Sephiroth in a straight one on one fight but that's a argument for elsewhere.

Here is some trivia for people who have never played FFVII.

Select to view spoiler:


Vincent may or may not be Sephiroths father

Marlene is Barrets adopted daughter

Cloud was never in SOLDIER, he suffered from the delusion that he was.



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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:09 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by HKCavalier:
After you finish with FFVII you can run out and get IX and X (skip VIII, everyone does).



Skip VIII???? *gasp* For shame!!!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:54 AM

LIGHTMEDARK


I didn't care for VIII a whole lot, either ;p

I still need to watch AC...it's hard to believe I still haven't seen it when FF VII is the game that's taken more hours from me than any other.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:10 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by est120:
This brings me to another point. I love the between scenes movies in computer games. I have often wished that more movies would get made like this one. It would be really great. In the extra features, the director comments that they creators wanted to make a movie for the fans. I wish that happened more often for other games.

Oh, hell yes.

My ideal Star Wars movie would be to grab the cutscenes from Jedi Knight (the live-action ones) and build the scenes between them.

(Save the CGI-animated Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy for sequels.)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:37 PM

HAZE




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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:51 AM

HAZE


Also everyone should really watch this



It most likely the only way you will ever see it.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:12 AM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER


Advent Children was a phenominal movie, considering it came from a sub-par Final Fantasy game.

For anyone here that hasn't played any of the Final Fantasy series, you are doing yourselves a disservice. FF has run the gammut of systems, having titles on NES, SNES, Game Boy, GB Advance, DS, Game Cube, PS1, PS2 and the PC. Must plays out there (in this order):

FF VI (III in the US) on SNES
FF IV (II in the US) on SNES
FF VIII on PS1
FF Tactics on PS1
FF X on PS2
FF I on GBA (major improvements over the original and PS1 editions)
FF VII on PS1
FF Mystic Quest on SNES
FF Adventure on GB (remade as Sword of Mana on GBA)
FF II on GBA
FF X-2 on PS2
FF Crystal Chronicals on Game Cube
FF IX on PS1
FF V on PS1
FF Legend Trilogy on GB

And for those that are wondering, FF III was never released in the US.

The original FF movie bothered me because it had nothing to link it to the series at all. Granted, all the games are independant, but there were continuing themes in all of them, none of which was in the movie. They just threw the FF name on there hoping to bring in a crowd.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:21 AM

HAZE


Quote:

Originally posted by babywiththepower:
Advent Children was a phenominal movie, considering it came from a sub-par Final Fantasy game.

For anyone here that hasn't played any of the Final Fantasy series, you are doing yourselves a disservice. FF has run the gammut of systems, having titles on NES, SNES, Game Boy, GB Advance, DS, Game Cube, PS1, PS2 and the PC. Must plays out there (in this order):

FF VI (III in the US) on SNES
FF IV (II in the US) on SNES
FF VIII on PS1
FF Tactics on PS1
FF X on PS2
FF I on GBA (major improvements over the original and PS1 editions)
FF VII on PS1
FF Mystic Quest on SNES
FF Adventure on GB (remade as Sword of Mana on GBA)
FF II on GBA
FF X-2 on PS2
FF Crystal Chronicals on Game Cube
FF IX on PS1
FF V on PS1
FF Legend Trilogy on GB

And for those that are wondering, FF III was never released in the US.

The original FF movie bothered me because it had nothing to link it to the series at all. Granted, all the games are independant, but there were continuing themes in all of them, none of which was in the movie. They just threw the FF name on there hoping to bring in a crowd.

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I'll be in my bunk.

"Live with a man forty years. Share his house, his meals, speak on every subject. Then, tie him up and hold him over the volcano's edge--and on that day, you will finally meet the man." ~ Shan Yu



I have played and completed every numbered Final Fantasy ever released (apart from III) and I could not disagree with you more. FFVII is the greatest of them all with FFVI coming in a close second.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:46 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER


Most people do, though I can't imagine why. The game felt rushed, and there were too many gaps. The majority of the popularity behind VII was that it was the first "next-gen" installment. Most FF players today started on that one and went back and played the others. The movie filled some gaps and provided some closure, the FF anime that's being translated (pity it's only one episode a scant 25min) should fill in many of the others. Here's hoping.

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I'll be in my bunk.

"Live with a man forty years. Share his house, his meals, speak on every subject. Then, tie him up and hold him over the volcano's edge--and on that day, you will finally meet the man." ~ Shan Yu

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:55 AM

ROCKXWL


This is a discussion that needs its own topic, I'm on it! Go to the "Final Fantasy" topic, I'd be excited to argue with smart people for a change as to to the best FF games of all time.

Other forums have these jackass kids that say "VII sux cuz the graphics are lame"

As far as AC goes, I loved it and do think it was a bit better than Spirits Within. However, I think it's tough to compare them because the tone is so much different in the two movies. Another way to say it, "one of the movies has Steve Buscemi." I find Advent Children much, much more serious and the reason I like it more is just that its an endless thrill ride. Plus I could just stare at the animation in awe with a spittle of drool coming from my mouth for the rest of my life.

Highlight moments:
1. Introduction of every party member during Bahamut fight
2. The forest fight.
3. Sephiroth's return (literally, I screamed with joy when he reappeared)

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:12 AM

CHRISISALL


Saw it last night, awsome visuals, some of the very best I've ever seen. Story needed some serious followin', but that's a good thing.
Very cool.

Cloud Chrisisall

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:03 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by rockxwl:
I find Advent Children much, much more serious and the reason I like it more is just that its an endless thrill ride.



I feel the same way. The Spirits within was not really all that concerned with the characters. Of course, there was the love interest between the captain and the scientist, but mostly the plot seemed to try to get the viewer more focused on the visuals. Advent Children really has character depth, especially with Cloud's regret and sadsness over the deaths of Aerith and Zack. While the visuals for Spirits Within movie were good, they lost some of the "fantasy" aspect. I expected more. Advent Children really keeps that part of it. The slow motion shots during the fight scene in the church between Tifa and Loz, the flower petals flying in the air. The forest fight scene you mention. The showdown between Cloud and Sephiroth. Lots of mood brought about just by the way the scenes were filmed.

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Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:03 AM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Saw it last night, awsome visuals, some of the very best I've ever seen. Story needed some serious followin', but that's a good thing.
Very cool.

Cloud Chrisisall



The story is tough to follow, but you can sit back like someone else said and just drool at the animation.

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