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Heroes

POSTED BY: CYBERSNARK
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 05:35
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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:49 PM

CYBERSNARK


So, anybody else catch the pilot?

I liked it. I'm pleased at the cheerleader not being stereotypical. I actually hope she and her geeky "sidekick" hook up, they make a cute couple (plus, y'know, A.V. geek getting the cheerleader ). Hiro is my favourite so far, and not just 'cause he's an unabashed otaku.

This one's gonna be fun!

Anybody check to see whether that X-Men reference (Kitty Pryde travelling through time) is legit?

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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:58 PM

DTUCK


CS, I saw the first episode of Heroes a bit ago, and was impressed!

Lots of potential to take each character in whatever direction they might naturally evolve in. I'm looking forward to more.

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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:09 PM

ADAMWANKENOBI


Loved the blatant Star Trek references. And did anyone catch the Matrix references?

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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:11 PM

REGINAROADIE


I didn't watch it on Monday because I was literally up all night putting together a presentation that I did today, but I knew they were showing an encore of it tonight. I get home in time for it, but I end up falling asleep during it because I was so exhausted.

I only saw the last twenty minutes of it, but I was definitly drawn into it. Hiro has my attention, and I think the cheerleader is a refrence to Buffy. You know, nearly indestructable blonde teenage girl.

I'm gonna try to find this ep online so that I can get caught up. But will be watching this regularily.

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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:26 PM

TOBEDOG


This show was awesome. I'm hooked on the cheerleader cuz thats just some freaky sh**. I'm also hooked on Ali Larter's character cuz she is freakin' hot. She's always had me since the "whipped cream bikini" in Varsity Blues. Anyways, I'm looking forward to following this one.



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Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:30 PM

22CLAWS

Entirely pointy.


I liked it, too. Not the most original premise, but, being in it's Genesis, they are free to find their own way without any strict obligation to the past. Which could afford them some important advantages over reinterpretations of the X-Men. So far, I have high hopes.
I think I might have that X-men. Uncanny 143, right. I'd have to check. It's been a while.

Can't talk. Can't look.
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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:57 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Caught the encore last night and ejoyed it. It moved a bit slow, but that is to be expected as they introduce characters.

Not sure who my favorite character is yet, but I know the single mom with the stripping website creeps me out. Her power is odd to say the least.

Looking forward to the next episode.

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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:40 AM

REDLAVA


The show wasn't too bad, nice to see mutants who don't just discover their abilitys then instantly know Kung Fu to battle the bad guys. I can see some potential here.


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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:25 AM

DRACONUS


This show definately has potential. There's so many different ways they could take it, it'll be interesting to see what they do. And I love Hiro. I mean what guy in his right mind wouldn't try to teleport into the ladies restroom if he had the chance?


May you have enough.

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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:33 AM

DRACONUS


Gorram double post!

May you have enough.

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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:18 AM

LETOV


I'm definitely in. I thought it has a lot of promise. I felt like the final bit with the painter reminded me a bit too much of the Dead Zone, but I can get past that. I'm waiting anxiously the next episode. Of course, I know with my luck I'll miss a couple episodes and end up waiting for the season 1 dvd set, but either way, should be fun.



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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:28 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


I'm in Ireland and we don't have the show here yet *sob* but I'm hopeful someone here or in the UK will pick it up. Or that I can get my hands on some downloads!

I did see the trailer during the summer though. It was the best trailer I've seen for anything in a very, very long time.




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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:00 AM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?


This show has definite potential!

Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:

Anybody check to see whether that X-Men reference (Kitty Pryde travelling through time) is legit?



If I am not mistaken, Kitty's mind traveled through time or rather it was possesed by her future self. Have no idea if that is the exact issue number.


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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:53 AM

STORYMARK


I thought it was okay. Has potential, but it didn't knock my socks off. I like the idea, and I'm always down for a good superhero tale, but the opening text was a pretty weak way to start a new show, ans the way the blood kept dissapearing from Cheerleader lass when she healed really, really annoyed me.

I thought it all felt a bit rushed, as well. But that will happen when your 2-hour pilot gets cut down to 1 hour.

I really liked Ali Larter's character, and the Indian investigating his Father's death. I'm hoping it improves next week with the addition of Greg Grunberg, whom I became a fan of from Alias.

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Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:04 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Honestly, I got a little choked up during the last half. The pntulant look from some of the characters over realizing that they are capable of great things. I could feel the weight. Great show. Need more like them to show the responsibility behind any strength.


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Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:47 AM

FLAKBAIT


Hiro was referring to the classic Days of Future Past story, in which a Kitty Pryde of the future swapped places with her younger self to warn the X-Men of some dire situation. It was actually #141-142, but I can forgive him for being a little off (though the writers could have easily looked it up and gotten it right).

I liked the pilot, I think it has some potential. I don't know about the "our lives are happening in this comic book" angle that they might be going for, that seems a little cheesy. But I'll give it a chance.

I like the cheerleader, they did a great job on writing her, I think. And the Ali Larter character's powers intrigue me.

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Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:59 AM

AMYEL


I'm a little confused about Ali Larter's powers. Her reflection tells her what to do and she can evicerate people without remembering? That'll be something to explain to the cops.

I love the little Japanese dude. Spazzy nerds are dear to my heart.

The disappearing/reappearing blood on cheerleader girl's clothes annoyed me too, but I liked her character. And I loved that they have Texans on the show without sounding like they escaped from Hee-Haw. It's rare to have television actually fairly-accurately represent a group of people located in the flyover states.


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Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:41 PM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by amyel:
I'm a little confused about Ali Larter's powers. Her reflection tells her what to do and she can evicerate people without remembering? That'll be something to explain to the cops.

I think it's kinda a split-personality thing. The mother has an alternate personality that's a River-esque killing machine. Sometimes the assassin bubbles to the surface, sublimating the "alpha" personality.

The visual style of it (the woman's reflection being visibly different from herself) reminds me of Rose & Thorn from DC Comics ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_and_Thorn).

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Rhosyn "Rose" Forrest is the daughter of Metropolis police officer Phil Forrest who died from the attack of a crime group named the 100. When Rose went to sleep, her Thorn personality would emerge and stalk the streets as a vigilante, attempting to bring the 100 to justice. She succeeds in this goal and the Thorn disappears from the superhero scene until members of the 100 escape and form the 1000. She has since worked with Superman and Booster Gold to try to put these criminals behind bars. For a brief period of time, she was under the control of Lord Satanus.

Thorn has no actual superpowers, but she is highly athletic and retains a high degree of martial arts ability from when her father taught her. She is known to carry a pair of combat daggers, a barbed whip, and a bandolier of tiny, thorn-shaped weapons, some of which contain explosives, miniature smoke bombs, or blinding magnesium flares.




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Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:49 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I'm leanin' towards a guardian aspect. She seems to be split on the idea herself. Sure she might just be seeing herself as having clean clothes and actually being bloody like in the mirror, but the idea of the person watching that she can't see is a possibility. Or maybe a killing machine that is mentally unstable and fast like a freak.


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Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:00 PM

DARKJESTER


I caught the replay, and liked it. I will be watching this series with interest, because there are many, many possible ways it could go, like everyone has been saying. Now, the one or two things I didn't like....

Spoilers.............. IN THE GORRAM NEXT WEEK"S PREVIEW!!!!!!!!

Hiro seeing himself in the comic? The narration asking if the two brothers share a power? To me, that's just the network saying "Hey, look how clever our new show is! We do this and this in the next episode! Great, right?!"

No, it's not great! I want to be surprised by the episode, not the preview!

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Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:08 PM

EMBERS


I really enjoyed it!
you can watch the whole thing here:
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/
scroll down to 'Miss an Episode?'
underneith that it says: watch the full premiere here....

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Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:01 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.


I just hope they give it a chance to develop. Big networks are not known for their patience.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 7:01 AM

PATSRULE


The premiere of "Heroes" (8.8/13) led the 9:00 hour among total viewers and was the night's top show among adults 18-49.

I don't see them canceling it unless it shows a steep drop-off!

I really liked the first episode of Heroes. The Japanese guy was definitely my favorite character so far.

The problem with 9:00 on Mondays...Heroes, Vanished, Runaway, and Monday Night Raw all at the same time. I only watch tv stuff between 7:00 and 9:30, then I go to bed, so thank goodness I have 2 dvrs for Mondays at 9:00.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 7:14 AM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?


Quote:

Originally posted by patsrule:
The problem with 9:00 on Mondays...Heroes, Vanished, Runaway, and Monday Night Raw all at the same time.



...AND Monday Night Football...


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Friday, September 29, 2006 7:27 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


As for the cheerleader, my guess is the mirror image was just a stylistic choice by the director to imply that she has the capability to astrally project her spirit out of her body. I would bet than in the future we will find out that other people can see her "other self."



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Friday, September 29, 2006 7:38 AM

PATSRULE


Quote:

Or
...AND Monday Night Football...




Yeah...I am totally screwed when the Pats play the Vikings later this season!

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Friday, September 29, 2006 8:54 AM

STORYMARK


I have to say, aside from my annoyance with the effects on the cheerleader's healing ability, her characterization really bothered me.

Why was she so upset? How exactly does being nigh-invulnerable translate to ruining your life? Yeah, sure, you might get some odd responses from people who see you break yourself in half, and then instantly heal. But that's not such a problem if you stop trying to injur yourself.

She was the only one upset about her new powers, and hers is potentially the most usefull, and easily concealable power of al so far.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, September 29, 2006 9:37 AM

CYBERSNARK


Actually, what interested me about "Cheerverine" is that she's not just the typical airheaded bimbo (I'd say "stereotypical," but I've met too many cheerleaders). Her obvious friendship with camera-guy (and her "payment" --talking to him in public at school tomorrow) suggests that there's more to her than we've seen.

She seems to realize the whole "Great Power = Great Responsibility" thing --simply hiding her gift and having a normal life isn't an option for her, not when she has the power/responsibility to help people. Note how quick she is to rush into that train wreck, and what she does as soon as she sees the guy inside.

It's also possible that she expects people to try to turn her into a specimen if they find out --a valid concern even if she doesn't know what daddy does for a living.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 9:47 AM

STORYMARK


I'll agree that she wasn't depeicted as the general airhead bimbo, but her "payment" implied to me she's the typical popular b!tch that generally only talks to those of her "status" at school (I teach High School, so I see this a lot).

And she didn't go into the train wreck for any noble reason, or to face her responsibility. She helped the guy once she got there, yes, but she went in as just another experiment. And she did it with witnesses, which undermines her position of being afraid people will find out about her.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 5:53 PM

REGINAROADIE


As luck would have it, Global showed the pilot almost a week after the debut, which I was glad for since I was able to catch up on it. And I'm glad I did.

The cheerleader and the Japanese guy are obviously my faves. With the flying guy, I can understand why they don't show him actually flying (this being network tv, probably don't have the budget to see him go all SUPERMAN), but I hope they can expand on him and his background. The painter who can see the future I can do without, and I'm not sure about Ali Larter.

But it's obvious that there'a lot more going on with Buffy 2.0, whose sub-plot I see as sort of an alternate take on BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER. Probably a mroe serious version of BUFFY. And after seeing the full Hiro sub-plot, I think I know why he's already a fan favorite after one ep.

Next to Johnny Storm off of the FANTASTIC FOUR movie, he's the first person in all the superhero tvshows and movies that have come out in the last ten years that seems to actually enjoy having his powers. All the other heroes on the show from one degree to another, feel burdened. Either they see themselves as being cursed with these powers, or that they see this as a reluctant call to arms. But Hiro, upon discovering his powers, is absolutely ecstatic about it. He actually sees the fun in this. I guess in that being a sci-fi and comic book geek, he sees this as hitting the jackpot, and not only is he accepting of his newfound powers, but is ready to jump (or in his case teleport) feet first into this with a grin on his face.

I think it's really this fresh take on the superhero genre, at least in Hiro's case, is what's going to have people coming back for more.

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 9:43 PM

22CLAWS

Entirely pointy.


Isn't the cheerleader's step-dad the bad guy?

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 10:18 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER


Kitty Pryde also timetravelled in Days of Future Past. Here's the wiki article:

In the Days of Future Past timeline (Earth-811), Shadowcat goes by the name Kate Pryde. Kate attempts to go back in time to prevent the slaughter of all superhumans. Although she succeeds in preventing the cause (the assassination of Senator Robert Kelly by Mystique and the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants), she only creates a separate timeline where anti-mutant sentiment is still strong and their eventual persecution seems inevitable. Back in her own time, she helps Rachel Summers escape back to the timeline she just created. Captured by sentinels, Kate manages to escape by accidentally phasing which merges her with a time warp that sends her to the timeline Rachel is inhabiting. Kate’s mind settles in a small, metal, off-spherical body and becomes known as Widget. After a few adventures in that timeline, Widget / Kate regains her memory and returns to her original timeline where she is able to reprogram the ruling sentinels to protect life, ending their tyranny.

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Monday, October 2, 2006 7:31 PM

REGINAROADIE


Did any of you guys check out the second ep? Oh man, I was so psyched by the end, when Hiro realized that not only had he jumped across an entire ocean and continent in the blink of an eye, but managed to travel five weeks into the future, just in time to find out that a month from now, all of New York will be nuked. And then to jump back.

So not only do we have a superhero series, but also a quasi-time travel series, and on network TV no less.

And with Buffy 2.0, that bit where she was knocked down by the football player and got her head twisted around, God that creeped me out when she went all Linda Blair.

And the intro to Greg Grunberg's character was played really well, especially since it kind of introduced I guess the super-villain of the show. Although I don't get why he freezes his characters and then eats their brains. Oh well.

I'm definitly going to be checking this one out week after week next to STUDIO 60.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 1:16 AM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER


You gotta give a spoiler alert before you type man. I almost read this post. I've been at work, so I couldn't see it, but I will be watching it this morning.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 1:38 AM

GRIZWALD


Thanks to patsrule, I was able to catch the pilot on the web just in time to quick make supper and then watch the second episode. I'm loving this show so far.

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1. I think the Cheerleader and Hiro oughta get together. Their lives would never be boring, that's for sure.

2. The villain freezes people and eats their brains because he is one of these mutants too, he can freeze stuff, but he's gone bad and hates everybody. Especially other mutants. He wants to track them all down and do the same to them. In fact, I think he thinks he takes their power when he does that.

3. The skeleton in the desert?--I bet it's Stripper Girl's ex. (Though the premise of a body buried 2 inches in desert dirt staying put long enough to skeletonize is a big stretch.)



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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 2:56 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


****SPOILERS AHEAD!****













Caught it and liked it. The story is moving along a little better.

The end made me go WTF?!? The artist is dead with the top of his head sawed off and his brain removed. WTF?!? Then we see that not only did Hiro teleport he went forward in time to the day of the nuclear explosion. At least it appears to be a nuclear detonation.

What's up with the killer pinning the mother to the staircase with utensils? The dad is frozen solid at the dinner table? WTF?!? The top of his head cut off and his brain removed? What is with all the brain removing. Is this the cheerleader's dad doing this stuff? Is he a metahuman too?

I didn't agree with the FBI spook arresting the cop, but I guess it will play out in plot development and getting all the heroes together.

What is up with the stripper mom? She blacks out on the road and winds up in the parking lot of the airport in different clothes? I guess that is when her other self (for lack of a better explaination) cleaned up the garage, found the '59 Caddy, put the bodies in the trunk with the map, and left the shovel in the desert. That is one creepy power.

What did everyone else think?

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 5:46 AM

CYBERSNARK


I'm loving this.

Okay, now Hiro knows what the stakes are (I loved that the date Hiro gave was the actual date: October 2). He just has to get in touch with the others to avert the disaster.

I'm getting the impression that "freezing-guy" and "brain-extracting guy" are two different people --the Prophet's body wasn't frozen. (I'm just gonna go ahead and give these guys codenames until I get their real names straight. ) Whoever pinned the woman to the wall was obviously a telekinetic (only other way involves super strength, but why go to the trouble of pinning her up there?), so that's who we're looking for.

And I don't think the brains are being eaten, just extracted. Possibly someone trying to analyze the mutation --they're obviously tied into the central nervous system (we know 'cause most of them either seem controllable or have some affect on consciousness/perception), which means that the brain plays a critical role.

Claire ("Cheerverine") seems to think that the mutations are genetic, which makes sense (especially in light of the flying brothers). I have a hunch her birth-parents are going to play a critical role (whether or not her dad was telling the truth about contacting the adoption agency).

That girl Mohinder met in the building --there's more to her than we've seen. The way she grabbed the gun and immediately sized up the situation is suspicious. Normal people aren't that cool under pressure. Also, that guy planting the bug --did anyone else get the impression he had higher-than-normal strength? Something about the way Mohinder went flying when they guy kicked him suggests that either Mohinder's deceptively lightweight or the guy was kicking him much harder than he seemed to.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 6:14 AM

LISSA


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Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:

That girl Mohinder met in the building --there's more to her than we've seen. The way she grabbed the gun and immediately sized up the situation is suspicious. Normal people aren't that cool under pressure. Also, that guy planting the bug --did anyone else get the impression he had higher-than-normal strength? Something about the way Mohinder went flying when they guy kicked him suggests that either Mohinder's deceptively lightweight or the guy was kicking him much harder than he seemed to.




I'm totally with you there. That girl was pretty little, like me, and if I saw a guy with a gun, I would probably just faint or something. The kick also stood out to me. As soon as I saw Mohinder go flying I thought, "that's a Buffy kick!" I've missed having people with super strength on TV

Was anybody else really bothered by how they shot the two brothers flying? The swirling cameras just made it look...cheap and fake.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 10:14 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by lissa:
Was anybody else really bothered by how they shot the two brothers flying? The swirling cameras just made it look...cheap and fake.

Well, flying is hard on a live-action TV budget --the best I've ever seen was Lois & Clark, and even it was mostly what we saw in Superman II (blue-screen, composited into long shots, often wildly out-of-scale with backgrounds and seeming to fly sideways). Granted, that was a while ago, so I'm hoping that future flight scenes will be better-done, as the VFX departments (and the brothers) hone their skills.

Besides, they needed to keep it obscure as to exactly what happened, to make the last scene's big revelation work.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 11:01 AM

LISSA


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:


Besides, they needed to keep it obscure as to exactly what happened, to make the last scene's big revelation work.



That's a good point...and now that I think about it, I can't remember seeing any good flying...anywhere. OK, I'll forgive them!

~lissa, retired spwhore

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 1:46 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I think you are right Cybersnark, it must be several people working together that caused the carnage we saw in the house filled with cops and feds. Two distinct, yet unrelated powers. Must be at least two different people.

I also agree that the removal of the brains is for study. I am thinking that some cabal within the government will be responsible for the brain removal and they are using metahumans as wetworks teams. Obviously the government would be eager to get their hands on people with super abilities.

Can't wait for next week's episode.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:33 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Only in America...

I found this article this morning on my favorite tv website, zap2it.com

Quote:

Garbage Disposal Maker Sues NBC Over 'Heroes' Scene

Company says its product cast 'in unsavory light'
October 3, 2006

The company that makes In-Sink-Erator garbage disposers is suing NBC, claiming that an episode of the new show "Heroes" makes the product look bad.

Appliance maker Emerson filed the lawsuit in a St. Louis federal court Monday, seeking to block rebroadcasts of the "Heroes" pilot. In the episode, a high-school cheerleader (Hayden Panettiere) who has the ability to withstand injury sticks her hand into an In-Sink-Erator while it's running, mangling her fingers (which return to normal within a few seconds).

Emerson's suit claims the scene "casts the disposer in an unsavory light, irreparably tarnishing the product" by suggesting that serious injuries will result "in the event consumers were to accidentally insert their hand into one."

The suit, however, is more about NBC's use of the In-Sink-Erator name than the content of the scene, the company says. "It's a trademark thing," spokesman Dan Callahan tells the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

NBC hasn't commented on the suit.

Emerson is asking for a ruling barring future broadcasts of the pilot, which is available on NBC's website and has already aired on NBC Universal-owned cable networks USA and Sci Fi. It also seeks to block NBC from using any Emerson trademarks in the future.




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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:00 AM

TOBEDOG


This show is freaky awesome.

Although I don't agree with some aspects, I just can't turn it off or look away.

Whats pissin' me off the most is the cliff hanger endings. End the episodes so we don't get pissed off at the end of a great show. Its buggin' me!





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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:38 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Mavourneen, that is America, land of the lawsuit and home of the offended.

I hope that NBC's lawyers pound them into dust.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 11:25 AM

STOWEAWAY


Siler was the name of the guy responsible for the gruesome murders. He is also the one on the professor's answering machine. I think all the characters are realizing their powers but I don't think they are all "heroes". Just like Siler, I think Stripper Mom is developing a power as a, for lack of a better word, VILLAIN.
Anybody else get that feeling?

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Friday, October 6, 2006 11:54 AM

WHITEFALL


I really like heroes so far. Finally another primetime sci-fi epic sort. (I dont have cable, and as much as i love house and bones and stuff, they arent exactly sci-fi.) I dislike the name, becuase so far, they seem like regular folk n stuff, "HEROES" sounds too grand and important. Oh well, if nothing else its an Xmen or mutant X clone, but whatever, nothing wrong with that. Looking forward to more.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 12:15 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


Man I am loving this show. Hope both it and Eureak! last awhile.

I think the brain removal has to indicate some sort of dark secret govermnent agency (like the NID on Stargate SG-1)tracking the heroes and studying them. But what's their goal? ... Or maybe it's aliens!

I think the Cheerleader's Dad might be Syler.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 1:58 PM

CYBERSNARK


Actually, I recall reading somewhere that there would be super-villain(s) emerging. Whole point of the show is asking what people would do with these powers --it's not the powers alone that make heroes, it's how they're used.

"With great power comes great responsibility." --Ben Parker

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Friday, October 6, 2006 4:41 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


Well I hope they can keep it up, cause so far I'm hooked.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 6:03 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


I think I’m really going to enjoy these SciFi Friday nights. My time is very limited, in that it is difficult for me to schedule many nights of tv shows. As such there are many shows that I can’t keep up with, that I might otherwise want to. But having Heroes, Doctor Who and Battlestar Galactica all in a row on the same night and channel is great.

Heroes sounded like a dull premise when I first heard of it, and seeing the soap opera-ish beautifulness of the characters made me cringe. Truth is I only watched it because I was eating dinner before Doctor Who, and the channel was tuned to SciFi. But I’m rather impressed that they seem to be meshing together an intriguing story out of this rather thin subject.

Like the X-files and BSG, they are employing the art of realism to render a sense of credibility to a quite fantastic issue, which is a good idea, considering that the story hinges on whether the audience buys the superpower thing. That realism requires some pretty graphic images and some very mature content, though, which I’m sure adults would have no problem with, though I’m concerned that this show probably needs to be on a little later in the evening because of it. Realistic depictions of implied prostitution, drug use and the graphic images of mangled bodies is pretty mature content but it’s not overdone for shock value and it does work. It forces you to accept the thin story as plausible. I don’t have any problem suspending belief to accept what would otherwise be a totally unbelievable story.

My favorite characters so far are Claire, Hiro and Niki. Claire, I like in part (I’ll just admit it up front) because Hayden Panettiere is one the most beautiful actresses I’ve seen. She sort of reminds me of a young Tatum O’Neil. But I also like the contrast of the beautiful cheerleader with the horrendous injuries, but like StoryMark, I was wondering what her problem was. I think however that maybe I was over thinking it. Essentially, her problem is that the she’s a flighty, ditzy cheerleader who cares principally about her popularity, and her reaction to her power is to view it as an anathema to her social standing. She comes across as warm and affectionate in some cases, but shallow and impulsive in others, and that, I think, is probably the most well-written and sympathetic characterization of the a typical beautiful 16-year cheerleader.

Hiro is the only character that seems to lucidly and openly embrace his power with enthusiasm. He is also clearly the most stereotypical, being a Trekkie nerd. That he is also Japanese is almost an ethnic slur, but it does make sense to put the person with his particular powers outside of the country, and Japanese ethnicity does suit the character well. He also provides much needed comic relief to show that is oddly enough very grim.

Niki is probably the most mature character in terms of the kinds of scenes she is depicted in: prostitution and extremely graphic murder. One very graphic image of her victims looked like the remains of a high explosive. It seems clear that she may end up as a villain, but a very sympathetic one.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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