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Does anyone read or watch The Dresden Files?

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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:44 AM

DEEPGIRL187


My mom turned me on to it, and I'm almost done with the second book. Already I'm trying to scrounge up the money for more books. It's my new crack addiction, especially since there's no Joss stuff to watch. Eventually I'll get around to watching the show.

Anyone else a fan? Or maybe have some thoughts on the story?

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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:48 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Watch the TV show. Never read the book. A very rare thing for me to say! Think I will read them having seen the show.

I watch them on Sky 1 so the last episode aired here was "What About Bob".

I like it :) It's no Buffy or Angel, but it's quirky and fun and just different enough to be interesting. Plus I think the lead actor is cute.





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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:57 AM

PIRATECAT


TV show not to bad. Grows on ya, kinda of modern day Kolshak. Some wizards have wands some have hockey sticks. There is another show The Unit which isn't to bad even has a troll in it.

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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:45 PM

CYBERSNARK


I love the show (been an RHW fan since DS9). I may decide to track down the books. Not too eager, though, since Book-Bob is apparently not as dry and sarcastic as TV-Bob (I prefer dry British humour to slapstick silliness).

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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:22 PM

SWEETSERENDIPITY


Book Bob has an obsession with getting out of his skull so he can leer at women or be put in some girls underwear drawer. Also reads romances since Harry won't let him do the former!

I think the books are great, been reading them since they came out. There's a tshirt available thru his website that I've always thought was a hoot. Making Jim Butcher famous one bookseller at a time. I was a bookseller for 12 years.

Yes the show is different, but I really enjoy it. Looking forward to next season, especially to see what Murph and Harry do!

Deb



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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:33 AM

REYNOLDSFAN34


I loved the show, and got turned on to the books, and I read them all. I hope people will write to the Sci-Fi Channel so we will get more shows. First show I have been excited about for a long time. Thought Paul and Terrence were great together, and everyone else was great too. Hope for more.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:48 AM

CONSTANCE


Never read the books, but Ive seen the show. I like it. Gotta read the books now I guess, after everybody has said so nice things about them.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 12:16 PM

MSG


LOVE all the books. It's amazing. TV show's good too, just think of it as alternate reality Dresden and it works fine:)


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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 2:48 PM

CLJOHNSTON108


Just watched the first episode off this site < http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/925>, and the first thing that grabbed me was the introduction of Bob: Thought he was a butler or a roommate who had some nifty powers... and then Harry says, "Back in your skull, ghost." WHOOSH!

Priceless!

It kinda reminds me of those "alternate universe" stories where Magic works, and is generally accepted by the populace: Robert A. Heinlein's Magic, Inc., Poul Anderson's Operation Chaos, and Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series.

This is now my second favorite show... after Firefly, of course!

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:51 PM

BSCPANTHERFAN


I'm right there with you, MSG. While there are some differences from the books to the TV series, I'm just happy to see something on the tube that has some quality to it. I only hope that SCIFI network gives it another season. Has anyone heard anything about that yet?

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:53 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


I like the show, but always manage to forget it is on. I will have to get the books!


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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 7:34 PM

WORKEROFEVIL


I read the books. I have the first seven and read the eighth. I had some problems with the TV show because they changed so much from the book for no reason I can think of. I always have a bit of a problem when shows do that. I understand that they changed Murphy's first name from the one in the book because there was an actual Karrin Murphy in the Chicago police department. That doesn't bother me. Why she's suddenly a 5'8" brunette instead of a 5' or 5'1" blonde I don't know. Why did they make Bob the ghost of a wizard instead of a spirit of intellect that happened to be inhabiting a skull? Why did they make werewolves able to infect people with a bite when a whole book was about werewolves and how the infection thing was just a myth? Why is Morgan a young black man instead of an older white man? And most importantly why doesn't Harry Dresden walk around in his duster jacket all the time like he's frickin supposed to? The episodes I saw were entertaining enough, but really the show seems to be related to the books only in setting, character names, and basic premise.

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 7:43 PM

SINGATE


Followed the show religiously, enjoyed just about every episode. Not two days ago I placed an order with the Science Fiction Book Club for three hardcover books which contain the first seven volumes. Not a bad deal at just under $40. Very interested to see the differences, I usually go from books to TV/movie version not the other way around.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 4:45 AM

PATSRULE


I never read the books, but tried to get into the show. I found it to be mundane and boring. I came back for about 5 weeks, but never enjoyed it and finally gave up on it.

Quality is in the eye of the beholder.

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 5:07 PM

PEULSAR5

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I enjoyed the show very much. I keep meaning to go to the bookstore and pick up the first one at least. It seemed to have pretty good ratings, so Sci-Fi should bring it back.

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Friday, May 11, 2007 2:28 PM

DEEPGIRL187


Well, I just finished the sixth book, and I'm going into withdrawal again. Must get last three books.

Based on what I've heard about the series, they've made some changes I'm not sure I'll like. And I'm wondering, is Thomas in the series yet? And do they include Mister? Being that those are my two favorite characters, that will probably be the deciding factor of whether I like the show.

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Friday, May 11, 2007 2:51 PM

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Sorry, DeepGirl no Thomas as of yet. No Mister either. Give it a shot though. If you can enjoy a book made into a movie ( they never follow exactly), then you can enjoy this.

I'll give you a kitty though...



Deb



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Friday, May 11, 2007 2:56 PM

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER


Quote:

Originally posted by PirateCat:
TV show not to bad. Grows on ya, kinda of modern day Kolshak. Some wizards have wands some have hockey sticks. There is another show The Unit which isn't to bad even has a troll in it.
/B]



Actually PirateCat....The Unit is a military-oriented drama from CBS staring Dennis Haysbert (President David Palmer from 24) and Robert Patrick (T-1000 from Terminator 2 and Special Agent John Doggett from The X-Files).

Special Unit 2 was the show about an elite branch of the Chicago PD charged with busting supernatural baddies. And it had a troll it in

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Friday, May 11, 2007 4:45 PM

RICKKER


someone else brought up the unit/ SU2 out. I've really enjoyed the show will get to the books, eventually. Ididn't see anyone bring up the books on tape. Guess who's reading? James Marsters. He brought it up at the Grand Slam convention I went to. He loved the book so he jumped at the chance to do the on tape thing.

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Friday, May 11, 2007 6:01 PM

WHISPER


I LOVE The Dresden BOOKS. I first got into the books when I learned that James Marsters (Spike from Buffy) read the audio versions. I never did get the audio versions but it did spark enough interest for me to start reading them a couple years ago. The books are very well written and laugh out loud funny. Harry's character in the book is very sarcastic and pragmatic to a fault. I have loved every book thus far in the series and eagerly anticipate each next installment. The books keep getting better, unlike other series that subtract plot to add other gratuitous elements (*cough*Laurell K Hamilton*cough*).

The tv series is okay. I have to admit my expectations were a bit high when I heard about the series being produced, which weren't met. There were just too many things that were changed and not just trivialities such as physical characteristics of characters. There were major changes to even the mythology. Such as Harry being able to be around electricity and the doors to his office/apartment being normal doors with glass. (The last part may seem trivial to some who have not read the books, but I assure you the doors being very heavy, thick, and extremely warded has saved Harry's ass a number of times.)
Anyway's I did like to series enough to catch it when I could but I definitely take it as an "alternate Harry" and would definitely choose the books over it any day.

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:55 AM

DEEPGIRL187


*sniff, sob*

They took out Mister???? Okay, I'm officially depressed. How dare they!

I'm guessing they'll bring Thomas into the picture in the next season. He's too important a character to leave out.

And sadly, I'll have to agree about Laurell K. Hamilton. I'm still a fan and all (next book comes out on June 5th), but the quality has gone down hill since Obsidian Butterfly. Then again, that could just be my bias since I'm a huge Edward fan.

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:42 AM

GEEZER

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I've been a big fan of the books from the get-go. They're fast-paced, full of humor, internally consistent, provide plenty of plot twists, and involve everything from faerie kingdoms to shooting porn movies. Every time a new one comes out I have to go back and read the series again just to make sure I know who all the players are and what side they're on now. This usually doesn't take to long, because once I pick one up, I'm reading full time until I finish.

If you like Dresden, you might try Butcher's Codex Alera series, which is kind of Dresden in reverse, with a hero who has no powers in a world where everyone else does.

As others have said, the TV show is best viewed as an 'alternate world' from the books. I'm not so bothered by some of the changes because they're needed for a visual medium - Bob as something other than a talking skull, an office so there's some place for Harry to meet clients and carry on exposition, stuff like that.

I get hints of Harry's antipathy for electricity in things like his older, non-computer, jeep (though the Blue Beetle would be better), and his use of a rotory phone. Maybe they'll get into that more later. I guess explaining all his quirks at once would just take too much time, but I'm hoping they'll work it in.


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:52 AM

CONSTANCE


Oh my... I now know what Ill do during summer... I want to read fiction so badly (havent had the time in ages becaus of this thesis). Now I know what to read. Shiny.

Constance

"I wanna live on an abstract plane"

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:16 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
(though the Blue Beetle would be better),

Actually, they tried and it didn't. The actor's too tall. It ended up looking like a clown car.

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Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:55 PM

CATWOMAN


I watch it,missed the season finale though.can anyone sum it up 4 me???thanks

bridget

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Monday, May 14, 2007 9:48 AM

BROWNCOAT2007


I have yet to read any of the books but this show is BRILLIANT!!! Not Firefly brilliant, but still incredibly well done. This is one of those shows where I would obsesse over it and it would get cancelled, if it weren't on SciFi!!! Thanks SciFi

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:37 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I get hints of Harry's antipathy for electricity in things like his older, non-computer, jeep (though the Blue Beetle would be better), and his use of a rotory phone. Maybe they'll get into that more later. I guess explaining all his quirks at once would just take too much time, but I'm hoping they'll work it in.


On the one hand, I do kinda wish they'd explained the electricity thing right up front, but on the other hand, it did make for a cool "retroactive appreciation" moment!

In the fourth episode, "Rules of Engagement," Harry stands near the surveillance camera in the interrogation room, and the monitor on Murphy's desk turns to static. I assumed it was something magical Harry did intentionally.

In the sixth episode, "Soul Beneficiary," Bob says to Harry, "...every time you get near an electrical appliance, it shorts out..."

I went, "Ohhhh, so that's what that was!"

Now that you mention the Jeep and the rotary phone, it all makes sense!
(But I don't recall any other gadgets besides the surveillance camera shorting out.)

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:47 AM

SHINYLIBRARIAN


I watched the Dresden Files and read the books
pretty much simultaneously.

Loved 'em both.

The mix of mystery and sf/fantasy is great fun for someone like me who is a fan of both genres.

In fact, I loved the books enough to have to buy my own copies, the ultimate compliment, and have
been recommending them to folks, too.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:45 AM

DEEPGIRL187


I'm on Proven Guilty now, and I'll probably have White Night read within two days. It's gonna be a long years after this...

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:28 AM

SWEETSERENDIPITY


White Night is the only one I haven't read. It was so much easier when I worked at Waldenbooks, I got stuff at a great discount as soon as it came out- hard back or not. Can't afford hardbacks now.

Since they haven't included mister on the series, I'm hoping maybe they'll include the dog!

Deb



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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:38 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Yeah, Mouse completely rules. Not quite as cool as Mister, but close.

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I wonder if they'll have Harry become a Warden eventually. There's so much ground to cover, only time will tell how they plan to do things. Not to mention the fact that Sci-Fi might get trigger happy and cancel the series.



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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:04 AM

SWEETSERENDIPITY


I have a thing for big slobbery dogs!

God, I hope they don't cancel it, it has so many places it can take the story to.

You'll have to PM me when you get done with White Night, give me the scoop!

Deb



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Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:52 PM

HURLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by WorkerOfEvil:
I read the books. I have the first seven and read the eighth. I had some problems with the TV show because they changed so much from the book for no reason I can think of. I always have a bit of a problem when shows do that. I understand that they changed Murphy's first name from the one in the book because there was an actual Karrin Murphy in the Chicago police department. That doesn't bother me. Why she's suddenly a 5'8" brunette instead of a 5' or 5'1" blonde I don't know. Why did they make Bob the ghost of a wizard instead of a spirit of intellect that happened to be inhabiting a skull? Why did they make werewolves able to infect people with a bite when a whole book was about werewolves and how the infection thing was just a myth? Why is Morgan a young black man instead of an older white man? And most importantly why doesn't Harry Dresden walk around in his duster jacket all the time like he's frickin supposed to? The episodes I saw were entertaining enough, but really the show seems to be related to the books only in setting, character names, and basic premise.



I had sort of the same questions after the first few episodes but I can see they're building into a real story arc that will continue into the next season/seasons (I hope). The books are great but maybe they have a reason besides trying to appease focus groups for the changes. I miss the narration and insights of Harry would give the reader about magic and the world he walks. Plus living in Chicago I can walk some of the same streets.

Why they changed the Blue Beetle into a Jeep, a hockey stick and a drumstick instead of his wand and blasting rods, or a storefront space instead of his office I can't figure either. Plus he wasn't supposed to be very good with women or around electronics but maybe that will change. I'm thinking they will have his powers grow in the coming shows and needed him to start off at a lower level.

I hate when they change a story because they think we won't get it. I mean the books were best sellers for a reason. They're always dumbing down SciFi.

I like the shows and love the books so I hope they don't screw it up.

I swallowed a bug

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:59 PM

HURLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by sweetserendipity:
White Night is the only one I haven't read. It was so much easier when I worked at Waldenbooks, I got stuff at a great discount as soon as it came out- hard back or not. Can't afford hardbacks now.

Since they haven't included mister on the series, I'm hoping maybe they'll include the dog!

Deb



Actually in the last or maybe it was the next to last episode there was a cat lying on a table in Harry's apartment. So maybe they start building up the background characters.

I swallowed a bug

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:26 PM

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They did have one episode in the middle of the season titled “Storm Front”, which was a much abbreviated version of the first book. That episode did have the VW Beetle ( it was in the shop being repaired) & Mister was mentioned briefly, I don’t remember if they actually showed him or not. Also, Harry’s lab was in the basement under the trap door as in the books & Susan was introduced as his girlfriend. Maybe this was supposed to be the first episode? Anyone know for sure?

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:43 PM

VETERAN

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There are books? Wow I had no idea. I really enjoy the show, it just seemed so original. My son didn't like it at first but it grew on him. He was watching it with me until the season ended.

Hope I didn't jynx it.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 3:40 AM

CYBERSNARK


Yeah, "Storm Front" was supposed to be the first episode, but the network decided to put "Birds of a Feather" first.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
Why they changed the Blue Beetle into a Jeep, a hockey stick and a drumstick instead of his wand and blasting rods, or a storefront space instead of his office I can't figure either.

As I said, the actor's too tall for the Beetle. The hockey stick and drumstick are because he has to carry these things around in public, and he doesn't want people asking questions.

Chicago isn't Sunnydale, where teenagers can stroll around at night carrying wooden stakes and bladed weapons in full view.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 3:51 AM

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Hey! I forgot I saw a cat in one ep. I remember thinking that sure wasn't big enough to be Mister. They need a large Maine Coon, or they could borrow my monster!

Deb



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Friday, May 18, 2007 5:35 AM

HURLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Yeah, "Storm Front" was supposed to be the first episode, but the network decided to put "Birds of a Feather" first.


I'd love to get one of these network executives in a room and have a 'talk'. There's so many shows that type of decision has screwed up the start of a series...huhmm...again that's when they think people are too stupid to get it. Why do they put a show like Battlestar Gallatica on and give it everything it needs to really take off and then hamstring other shows from the start? Argh How do these execs get there jobs in the first place?

Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
Why they changed the Blue Beetle into a Jeep, a hockey stick and a drumstick instead of his wand and blasting rods, or a storefront space instead of his office I can't figure either.


Quote:

As I said, the actor's too tall for the Beetle. The hockey stick and drumstick are because he has to carry these things around in public, and he doesn't want people asking questions.



In the books Harry's like 6'3" or taller so I think the Jeep is just temporary and the Blue Beetle will emerge in later shows. I think someone else mentioned seeing Harry working on it. I'd forgotten about that scene. They're starting him off less powerful and the stories are a lot simpler than I expected which I guess has a purpose but I have my doubts about corporate execs and their influence over storylines. (keeping fingers crossed though)
Quote:

Chicago isn't Sunnydale, where teenagers can stroll around at night carrying wooden stakes and bladed weapons in full view.


Well I've seen some pretty strange things living in Chicago. In certain neighborhoods you'd be surprised if you didn't see people with weapons. Ya gotta fit in. :) The leather duster would fit right in around here. Everybody's bundled up from Oct til June anyway.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 7:13 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
In the books Harry's like 6'3" or taller so I think the Jeep is just temporary and the Blue Beetle will emerge in later shows. I think someone else mentioned seeing Harry working on it. I'd forgotten about that scene.




Actually, if memory serves, Harry is more like 6'6". In one of the books, he mentions a woman being 5'6", and says he's approximately a foot taller than her (yeah, I know I'm anal rententive, these things just bug me ).

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Friday, May 18, 2007 7:16 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


This is a really stupid question but WHAT CHANNEL AND WHAT TIME? Please.


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Friday, May 18, 2007 12:41 PM

HURLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
This is a really stupid question but WHAT CHANNEL AND WHAT TIME? Please.



The Dresden Files? SciFi Sundays before Battlestar Galactica. But the show is off for the summer I think. So September maybe the new season will begin.

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Monday, May 21, 2007 4:01 AM

DEEPGIRL187


FMF, since the show's off for the summer, I'd suggest reading the books, if you haven't already. Well worth your time, trust me.

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Friday, May 25, 2007 3:27 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


The first season's coming out on DVD August 7!

It's available for pre-order.

http://www.amazon.com/Dresden-Files-Complete-First-Season/dp/B000QUEQ4
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I almost bought the first book, but as I flipped through it, some'n about the eye sockets in Bob's skull lighting up whenever Harry invokes him put me off a bit, and reminded me just how much I loved Terrance Mann's performance.

But I was just reading the short story & vignette that Jim Butcher posted on his site...
http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/restoration/
http://www.jim-butcher.com/books/dresden/vignette/
...and I've revised my opinion somewhat.

"Chicks are into unicorns."
--Hrothbert of Bainbridge

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Monday, May 28, 2007 5:58 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


A friend of mine lent me a tape she had of some of the episodes, and I recently read the first book. I really enjoy the show, and the books are more than decent. I do like Bob better in the show, though. I like that he looks like a real person and is often out of his skull (heh) but the books, like books do, go into more details and background and such, which is nice.
I'm betting that Mister isn't in the show much (or at all, whichever way it actually is) because it's hard to characterize a cat on screen. In books it works better because motivation can be told and not shown. It's hard to show some things.
First season is coming out on DVD? Oooooh, shiny! Now I can see all the episodes!!


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
A troll's hair is still pointy, even when it's wearing a hat.

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Monday, June 4, 2007 7:57 PM

SINGATE


So far I've read through the first five books and I must say I'm incredibly impressed. There hasn't been a weak link yet. Each book moves along fluidly with very little down time. Don't want to get into a detailed analysis of each book because that would take forever so I'll just touch on a few high points.

I was amazed by the variety of werewolves in Fool Moon. I'm not an expert or anything but the explanations sound plausible. Butcher's depiction of the loup-garou variant is the most chilling I have come across in print or on screen.

Really like the idea of The Knights of the Cross. It's a great way to add a religious element without being too preachy. In fact the interplay between magic, religion, and the modern world in these books is seemless.

The idea of regular demons being different from fallen angels was one of the more interesting aspects of Death Masks. Those Fallen were just plain creepy and damn near unstoppable.

It was surprising to me how much Murphy distrusts Harry in the early novels. Then again the amount of trouble surrounding him would give anyone pause. Great to watch the progression of their relationship throughout the books. It was also surprising to me how much she actually knows about what is really going on. Harry pretty much laid it all out after one of their meltdowns. A very interesting contrast to the TV series.

Morgan just plain cannot abide Harry. I think if he could get away with it he would take Harry out. On the show there is a least a grudging respect between the two but in the novels they can't stand each other.

Is it just me or is Harry Dresden the Al Bundy of the magical community? I mean, occasionally things go right but for the most part life just keeps kicking him in the balls. The amount of shit that piles up around him wave after wave is just amazing.

Finally, I need to draw a parallel between this series and BTVS. No matter how bad things get Harry always has a smart assed comment for his allies and would be dispatchers. He has very little respect for those obviously superior to him(in power that is) and no respect for authority, most notably The White Council. Sounds a lot like a little slayer girl I used to watch on TV.

That's all for now, off to read the sixth and seventh books.



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Tuesday, June 5, 2007 3:57 AM

DEEPGIRL187


See, I almost hate knowing what's going to happen. Ah, the things that are in store for you.

Things get better and worse for Harry. I'll leave you to decide which is which. And the Al Bundy correlation is dead on; not only does he tend to get crapped on, he's perpetually broke as well.

Oh, and don't forget books eight and nine.

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Tuesday, June 5, 2007 3:59 AM

CYBERSNARK


I was thinking that a Mal analogy would be more appropriate. As bad as things get, he keeps clawing his way back.

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Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:53 AM

SINGATE


Just finished with books 6 and 7. There were a few surprises and some things I could see coming. I'll put the rest in a spoiler tag just in case.

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I had a bad feeling when Harry decided to bury that coin in his basement. If he truly wanted to put it out of reach there were definitely better ways than keeping it in his home. The way Lasciel has been working him is subtle and brilliant. Huge surprise when it turned out Shiela was her illusory form. You could feel Harry deflate when he found out. I'm guessing he will be relying on her more in the coming novels.

The differences between the vampire courts is at least as interesting as Butcher's different depictions of werewolves. The idea that they have different abilities, weaknesses, and ways of feeding is quite creative. I knew something was up with Thomas but I wasn't expecting him to be Harry's long lost brother. With Harry's luck I had assumed he was being used by another backstabbing vampire.

The biggest surprise for me was Harry becomming a Warden. Never in a million years did I see that coming. It's the last thing I would expect the Council it ask of him and beyond the last thing I would expect him to accept. Given how dire the situation was I guess there wasn't much of a choice. Just listening to how the wizards had been decimated by the Red Court was stunning. That would be one hell of a thing to see.

These Old Ones that are spoken of remind me of Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos, I wonder if that's where Butcher is drawing from. If so it would be cool if he had permission to incorporate them fully into one of his stories.

What's up with Murphy and Kincaid? Guess she likes bad boys, well technically he's not a boy. I'm not entirely sure what happened on that trip but I've got a feeling it isn't everything we are being led to believe. Her absence felt kind of weird to me.

One more surprise I forgot about was finding out about "Blackstaff" McCoy. I definitely did not see that one coming. The idea that the White Council employs a black knight so to speak is quite interesting. Harry's reaction was predictable but he pressed his old mentor for the truth. No wonder Harry doesn't trust anybody, they are always hiding something that he can't reconcile.

It took 7 books but it looks like the war is finally over between Morgan and Harry. Until Morgan tries to order Harry around that is. So Harry is now regional commander of nobody, what a lofty position. At least he gets to consult with Ramirez and draw a regualr paycheck.



Holy crap that was a lot of typing! Books 8,9 are headed my way so until then...

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Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:16 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Does anyone know where I could find some good Dresden Files fanfic? Specifically, I'm looking for Buffy or Angel crossovers. I have to do something to satisfy my fix.

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