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Favourite martial arts film of all time-

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 7:52 PM

CHRISISALL


Production, direction, music, choreography, character...
As electrifying as Enter The Dragon was, and as amazing as Drunken Master II was, I have to go with Forbidden Kingdom.
It was lyrical & beautiful, if a bit limited by the PG-13 nature of the content.



What's YOUR pick?


The martial Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:08 AM

GOTTHAMMER


Hmm...hard to pick.

I'm kinda torn between 'Drunken Master' and Zhang Yimou's 'Hero'. If I had to choose, tho', it would be 'Hero'.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:37 AM

CHRISISALL


Hero is an amazing piece.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:11 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Production, direction, music, choreography, character...
As electrifying as Enter The Dragon was, and as amazing as Drunken Master II was, I have to go with Forbidden Kingdom.
It was lyrical & beautiful, if a bit limited by the PG-13 nature of the content.




By the way, I picked this up on dvd months ago on your recommendation, and really enjoyed it. It's like a throwback to those early 70's Kung Fu flicks (ancient time, anything goes storylines, fantastic stuntwork} with modern dazzling effects. I wonder if it's available in Blu-Ray?



I loved it. Thanks.







I think Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is my favorite of all time.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:01 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:
I think Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is my favorite of all time.


But they fly in that one. Not just jump, but Superman-like.
Nice drama to it, though!


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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:14 AM

SHADESIREN


Six-String Samurai, hands down.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:08 PM

LWAVES


I would say that Hero is the best looking martial arts film around, but as for the best overall that is a harder pick.
Forbidden Kingdom is great and I thank you CIA for recommending that film to me many moons ago, but I'd have to go with Enter The Dragon as it has that classic status and it is a Bruce Lee film. Others may follow but he is still the best.




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Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:27 PM

CHRISISALL


I must see that one (Six String)...


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Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:
I would say that Hero is the best looking martial arts film around

Definitely.
Quote:

I'd have to go with Enter The Dragon as it has that classic status and it is a Bruce Lee film. Others may follow but he is still the best.
ETD was the best show of Lee's abilities, a solid choice. However, for sheer acting, Fist Of Fury (AKA Chinese Connection) blows me away. Lee's Chen is such a wildman. Whoah.


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Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:47 PM

KWICKO

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Deep Throat.


Oh. Sorry, I thought it said favorite MARITAL arts film... ;)

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:50 PM

CITIZEN


Alien vs Predator.

At least last time that shit was one I roundhoused my tv.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:03 PM

CYBERSNARK


I'm still partial to Unleashed. Not only was Jet Li at his best, switching between three very different fighting styles to reflect his character's emotional arc. . . he actually had an emotional arc.

There's a depressing number of martial artists who can't act to save their lives, but Unleashed is where Jet Li proves that he's not one of them. Dude can emote.

I'd love to see him make a non-action movie; he could probably blow it out of the park.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:24 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
There's a depressing number of martial artists who can't act to save their lives, but Unleashed is where Jet Li proves that he's not one of them. Dude can emote.


Cyber, did you ever see "The One?"
Jet was excellent in that one.


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Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:55 PM

FREMDFIRMA



What, no Seven Samurai ?

No Yojimbo ?

Both done, btw, as rather nice spaghetti westerns as well, but quite good in their original form as well.

-F

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Monday, December 14, 2009 12:22 AM

HAKEN

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Hard to say since martial arts film covers a very wide range if you group Wuxia movies along with all the other sub-genres (and there are lots).

Personally, I like a lot of Jet Li's stuff. 'Fist of Legend' comes to mind as being one of the best without much wife-fu (if any).


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Monday, December 14, 2009 1:15 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Excellent choices Frem, and, at one time, my choice would have been Seven Samurai, but there have been some new masterpieces that have come about, such as;

House of Flying Daggers - lyrical and beautiful (The drum scene)

Hero - of course, downright deliberate

Drunken Master - both funny and well put together

But my all-time favorite, so far from the ones I've seen is:

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - poetic and epic just begins to describe it.

Not taking away anything from anyone's choices, but that's just it, isn't it? We all have our tastes.


SGG

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Monday, December 14, 2009 2:25 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Fists Of Fury
The Chinatown Kid
Street Gangs Of Hong Kong
The Kid With The Golden Arm

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Monday, December 14, 2009 3:03 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Chrisisall wrote:
Quote:

Production, direction, music, choreography, character


Armour of God II : Operation Condor Good character, with a kind of Martial arts Indianna Jones, superb stunts both vehicle and martial arts and great use of a set piece to highlight Chan's masterful choreography with stunts and fighting scenes. In partcular the finalé in the wind tunnel. Their are moments that mirror the timing and genuis of Buster Keaton. Fantastic stuff and probably my favourite Jackie Chan film. Plus VERY funny.

Enter The Dragon: This just oozes cool and hipness to the extreme. Lee is measured yet fascinating to behold. The finalé with the mirrored room is one of the best things ever shot on celluloid. I still marvel at how they did that. VERY clever indeed. Superb direction and exceptional cinematography. It defined the CRASH ZOOM which has never been rivalled.

Zu Warriors: Fantasy martial arts at it's best. This film just explores the richness of ancient folklore and realizes it with style. There's so much adventure going on here it warms the soul! I had so much fun watching this when I rented it as a kid. Love this film.




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Monday, December 14, 2009 3:57 AM

GOTTHAMMER


Yojimbo is one of my all time favourites, but I don't think I ever really thought of it as a 'Martial Arts' movie.
I mean, there are discussions on how skilled Sanjuro is (and he demonstrates it, too), but I don't think it really 'lingered' on that aspect unlike in, say, 'Hero' (where Wu Ming's/Nameless' skill to kill in 10 paces is highlighted).

I also liked Jet Li's 'Fearless'. The fights were quite good, IMHO.

I'd like to see a more 'realistic' depiction of two of the styles I practice, tho': Tai Chi Chuan/Taijiquan (Tai Chi Master w/ Jet Li was kinda corny and over the top) and Hsing-I Chuan/Xingyiquan (The One was...ok? But it didn't really show Xingyi well, I think)

edit:
2 'Western' movies, relatively recent, were kinda good, too, from a MA perspective:
- The Bourne series (even Taken w/ Liam Neeson, which was Bourne-ish, was quite good)
- The Hunted w/ Tommy Lee Jones and del Toro: nice fights (I recommend this one actually...esp. since I'm filipino and they highlight one of my favourite fighting arts)

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Monday, December 14, 2009 4:48 AM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by gotthammer:
Yojimbo is one of my all time favourites, but I don't think I ever really thought of it as a 'Martial Arts' movie.
....
2 'Western' movies, relatively recent, were kinda good, too, from a MA perspective:
- The Bourne series (even Taken w/ Liam Neeson, which was Bourne-ish, was quite good)



Agree with these - love Yojimbo/Sanjuro/Seven S. but never really thought of them as Martial Arts.

Same for the Zatoichi series - I keep trying to pimp those films on this board but it feels like I've never gotten any takers. It is a wealth of Asian Cinema goodness imho.

Hero (gorgeous and a great story), & Tiger are my more mainstream favorites otherwise.



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Monday, December 14, 2009 5:39 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Armour of God II : Operation Condor Good character, with a kind of Martial arts Indianna Jones, superb stunts both vehicle and martial arts and great use of a set piece to highlight Chan's masterful choreography with stunts and fighting scenes.

One of Chan's greatest successes.
Funny though, I like the English dub version the best- the music is so much more heroic & grand than the Chinese version (though, too many good bits were cut out of it, sadly).


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Monday, December 14, 2009 6:19 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Cyber, did you ever see "The One?"
Jet was excellent in that one.

Yeah, I liked it. Great acting, but I don't think the script was really up to it (Li's two main characters were a bit clichéed, I thought).

Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Quote:

Originally posted by gotthammer:
Yojimbo is one of my all time favourites, but I don't think I ever really thought of it as a 'Martial Arts' movie.
....



Agree with these - love Yojimbo/Sanjuro/Seven S. but never really thought of them as Martial Arts.


Ditto. I don't hesitate to count The Seven Samurai as one of the greatest movies ever made, but I see it more as a military drama than as a martial arts movie --a good martial arts movie requires a compelling big bad whose skills match those of the hero(es), but the bandits in SS were mostly just generics. A force of nature, dangerous only in terms of their numbers and more advanced weapons, and whom the samurai fight off through tactics and strategy, rather than through straightforward fighting skill.

The only samurai presented as a truly superhuman fighter is Kyuzo, and most of his action happens either offscreen (when he captures the gun) or is too subtle to register (like the over-before-it-began fight with the drunkard) --which of course makes more dramatic impact than any amount of stunts and wirework.

(Samurai 7, Gonzo's steampunk anime version, is more akin to what I mean; the Nobuseri are much more individually dangerous, and the individual samurai are all presented as fighting at a higher-than-human level that the Villagers can't match. Then there's the Emperor and Ukyo, who are manipulating things behind the scenes every bit as adroitly as Kambei organizes the villagers)

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Monday, December 14, 2009 6:25 AM

MALACHITE


What? No Kung Fu Hustle??? :)

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Monday, December 14, 2009 6:34 AM

STORYMARK


I was JUST about to say Kung Fu Hustle. So, that and....

House of Flying Daggers
Hero
Drunken Master II (original version)

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 14, 2009 8:36 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Oh, yah - while an actor rather than a movie, I do feel that Al Leong deserves an honorable mention here, as he seems to be in almost *every* kung fu flick or bad B-movie, particularly old school Canon/Golan-Globus stuff, usually getting his arse handed to him by the hero, sometimes repeatedly or fatally.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Leong

How bout that for a job description ?
"Well, I get my ass kicked by Chuck Norris a lot."

Seriously, the guy is in like, EVERYTHING - just look for the "nameless mook" with the Fu Manchu and there he is, usually getting beaten up, shot, stabbed, impaled, or even eaten (by Godzilla, no less!) - and somehow manages to make it look impressive, no mean feat in itself.

So here's one for Al Leong, hands down King of the nameless mooks.

-F

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Monday, December 14, 2009 8:38 AM

STORYMARK


His candy-bar moment in Die Hard solidified him in my movie pantheon at a young age.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 14, 2009 7:22 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
His candy-bar moment in Die Hard solidified him in my movie pantheon at a young age.


Along with that Michael Kamen riff...

Classic.

& his fight with Brandon Lee in the American masterpiece "Rapid Fire."


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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:33 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Forgot about one of the funniest martial arts movies ever made - Kung Fu Hustle.

I LOL'd throughout this movie the first time I saw it. I could watch it over and over again, the sign of a masterpiece.

So here's to KFH.


SGG

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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:45 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

One of Chan's greatest successes.
Funny though, I like the English dub version the best- the music is so much more heroic & grand than the Chinese version (though, too many good bits were cut out of it, sadly).



I haven't seen the dubbed version. What would they cut and why? Seems odd.




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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:26 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

I haven't seen the dubbed version. What would they cut and why? Seems odd.




The good is that Jackie did his own voice, and like I said, the music is way cooler.
The bad is that they cut stuff like the more violent shootings in the desert attack, the killing of the hotel owner (good cuts where my Son is concerned), the water gag where Jackie seem to be getting kissed by the girls... mostly extreme violence & little bits for time to keep it just over 90 minutes.
Still, the essence is there, and it is a leaner (if not meaner) movie.


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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:02 AM

XANA888


Jet Li's "Fearless". Although stories with a moral usually just annoy me.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:29 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Cannot stand Jet Li, and Hero irritated me sooo much that I thought I was having an aneurysm, my headache was so bad. Same with The One.

I loved Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, 'cause I was a fan of Chow Yun Fat's since Hard Boiled & The Killer. (And also I was hot for Zhang Ziyi)

Oh, and I really love the Transporter films!

As for all-time favorite, I'd have to say all of Jackie Chan's up to The Tuxedo. Everything past that has sucked, because you can tell he started using wires when he got to a certain age.

This Parkour thing is pretty insane — I can't imagine how these guys do it without regularly falling to their deaths!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour
It's always seemed to me that these moves were inspired by Jackie Chan's acrobatics.



But I was really impressed with District B13...
http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/districtb13/
and there's a sequel coming out...
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/district13ultimatum/

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Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:41 AM

GOTTHAMMER


Hmmm. I enjoyed Banlieue 13/District B13, but I don't think I ever considered it a Martial Arts movie (I guess I was too fixated on it's portrayal of parkour).
David Belle was awesome in it, tho'.

As for Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: at the time I first saw it, when I was new to chinese martial arts, I really enjoyed it. I dunno now, tho'. I mean, I'd still recommend that folks see it, at least once, if they're interested in the Wuxia genre, but...I dunno. Maybe I watched it one too many times.

edit: thanks for the heads-up on the B13 sequel. That and I love watching that commercial every now and again. David Belle is great!

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Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:40 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:

As for all-time favorite, I'd have to say all of Jackie Chan's up to The Tuxedo.

Well, that wire stuff doesn't make Forbidden Kingdom a bad movie, just less awesome from a stunt perspective IMO. In terms of choreography, it's still amazing.


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Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:26 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
you can tell he started using wires when he got to a certain age.


I just watched the extras on Forbidden Kingdom, and I hafta say, the wire work that "old & worn out" Jackie does in it is stuff I believe YOU or I would have SERIOUS problems doing even though we are younger than him.


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Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Hero is an amazing piece.



Dont let him hear you say that.

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:48 AM

06K64


Stretching the definition (slightly...)

Matrix (1)

If only that scene- eye-popping/jaw-dropping for it's time... with tributes, to boot.

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:46 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Hero is an amazing piece.



Dont let him hear you say that.

You are sick, Lex. You are really sick.




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Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:07 AM

PCCH7


Haven´t seen a "great" deal of martial arts films but of the ones I have seen, I do like Fearless a lot.

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Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:23 AM

CHRISISALL


I hear if you liked Fearless, you'll love Ip Man.


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Sunday, April 4, 2010 8:22 PM

CHRISISALL


Oh
My
God(ess)

Ip Man was PHENOMENAL!!!!!

Historical accuracy aside, it was THE best MA flick I've ever witnessed- it even topped Jackie Chan's Drunken Master 2 (AKA: Legend Of The Drunken Master) IMO!!!!

Buy it; rent it; DOWNLOAD it; whatever, this is a MUST-SEE for gung-fu peeps!!!!!

Plus: it's just a good story.


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Sunday, April 4, 2010 11:11 PM

HAKEN

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Oh
My
God(ess)

Ip Man was PHENOMENAL!!!!!




And Ip Man 2 is on its way.



Sorry, no subs in this trailer, but I've read that it's basically about how Ip Man ended up in HK and some of the rival school didn't exactly like him all that much. Main one being the Hung Gar school ran by Sammo Hung's character.

Ip Man, of course, eventually becomes Bruce Lee's master, so there is a young Bruce Lee in the movie.

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Monday, April 5, 2010 4:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Looks like another winner!!!

Too bad there can be no "3."


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Monday, April 5, 2010 8:53 AM

CHRISISALL


CL, have you SEEN Ip Man, man?
It's OFF THE HOOK!!!


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Monday, April 5, 2010 9:03 AM

CHRISISALL


New knee-jerk-off-the-top-of-my-head-list (pure gung-fu)*:

#1 Ip Man
#2 Enter The Dragon
#3 Drunken Master II
#4 Forbidden Kingdom
#5 The One


*subject to change without notice


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Monday, April 5, 2010 9:17 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
CL, have you SEEN Ip Man, man?
It's OFF THE HOOK!!!


No, but I just watched Kung Fu Hustle (Thanks to the suggestions upthread). Now that was off da hook! I'm now a die-hard Stephen Chow fan! I'd already seen (and loved!) Shaolin Soccer, but this one just cemented the deal.



Couldn't believe the image quality! It's amazing how much slicker everything looks through a properly-used wide-angle lens!

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Monday, April 5, 2010 9:50 AM

CHRISISALL


Stephen Chow, the Jim Carrey of martial arts!!!


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Monday, April 5, 2010 2:38 PM

HAKEN

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
New knee-jerk-off-the-top-of-my-head-list (pure gung-fu)*:

#1 Ip Man
#2 Enter The Dragon
#3 Drunken Master II
#4 Forbidden Kingdom
#5 The One




But what about Jet Li's Fist of Legend?



And probably Jet Li's Once Upon a Time in China series stuff?

I also like some of the old stuff too with Gordon Liu (Kill Bill).






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Monday, April 5, 2010 2:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Haken:


But what about Jet Li's Fist of Legend?


The gung-fu is good, but Fist Of Fury still leaves me teary & exhausted. Jet's cool, but let's never remake a Bruce Lee flick, eh?


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Tuesday, April 6, 2010 3:48 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Haken:







Sorry Haken, that 1-2-3 stuff is unwatchable for me. Be like water; not water hitting every beaver dam, my friend.




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