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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:54 PM

CHRISISALL


A partial DVD review here, since it's THREEE HOURS LONG now.
Well, we watched the first half -the movie is spread over two discs in this release to increase picture quality, and man, it's like I suddenly have Blu Ray- I can only IMAGINE what the BR one looks like!!!
New opening- perfect. New additional bits- excellent. Packaging- beautiful. Extras- haven't had time, but what a list.



Trust me, y'all need this if you even just *liked* the theatrical version.

I like this movie more & more the more I see it. And this version is the way to go.
(No, I don't work for 20TH Century Fox, James Cameron, or Eyes Only)




The laughing Chrisisall



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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:00 PM

STORYMARK


Planning to grab one on me way home from work, I am.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:07 PM

CHRISISALL


$19.99 this week only at the Buy More.

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:20 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I'm getting the Blu-Ray through amazon. Best Buy's price for that is $29.99, amazon has it 5 dollars cheaper, plus I had a gift certificate. It pays to be an amazon associate site.



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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:57 PM

CHRISISALL


Be careful, in Blu Ray it might make your head explode. Ever see that guy in Scanners...?


The laughing Chrisisall


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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:57 PM

PENGUIN


You all realize by buying this movie you're just encouraging Mr. Cameron to make more of this crap.









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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:14 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
You all realize by buying this movie you're just encouraging Mr. Cameron to make more of this crap.


I take it that you're not a fan of this particular movie, Pengy?
Why?
Too heavy handed in its American Indian analogy thing?
Or is it the Corporate-use-it-up-for-profits-N'-war thing?

Either way, it a freakin' BEEEYOOOTIFUL movie!!

Hey, I ain't all religious & s**t, but I love The Ten Commandments too, aiiiht?


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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:07 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


There are hundreds of movies made in the past few years that I would label as crap long before it would occur to me to use that word to describe Avatar. Sorry you didn't like it, Peng. To each his own.

Was it perfect? Not by a long shot. Does it make my Top 10 of SF films. Not quite. I still like it though.



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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:23 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
You all realize by buying this movie you're just encouraging Mr. Cameron to make more of this crap.












You do realize you're talking to people who liked it?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:41 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Was it perfect? Not by a long shot.

Well, a 'medium' shot, IMO.
Quote:

Does it make my Top 10 of SF films. Not quite.
Me either.
Quote:

I still like it though.

Very much so in my home.


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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:43 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
people who liked it


I liked it in the movies (3D), I *really* liked the 2D DVD, and I LOVE this new version.
But, that is the way with Cameron SF films as far as I'm concerned.
The more, the better.


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:03 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


My only qualm is about having to swap discs in the middle of the movie. That's so... LaserDisc!

The detail on my DVD looks good enough on my iMac to drop my jaw.

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:06 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
My only qualm is about having to swap discs in the middle of the movie. That's so... LaserDisc!

The detail on my DVD looks good enough on my iMac to drop my jaw.


I had a laserdisc player that automatically went to side 2, but you're right, even that delay, or having to change disks sucks. I hate when they do this to a movie. I'm sticking with the first DVD I bought, the one that's 2hrs 35 mins...'cause that's the movie. A new opening? No thanks! New scenes? No thanks! New money out of my wallet? No way!





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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:18 AM

WAFFENMAC


I dont like Cams politics,but seeing it for the very first time on imax 3d with my 14 year old daughter was freaking awesome .So yes I did purchase it and will probably get extended as well.It does have to be in the top 20 all time for scifi movies simply for the new technology that was ushered in for this one.





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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:15 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
My only qualm is about having to swap discs in the middle of the movie. That's so... LaserDisc!

The detail on my DVD looks good enough on my iMac to drop my jaw.



But that's a small screen - playing it on a larger one brings out more compression artifacts.

And, it's now a longer movie, which would require even more compression, and a worse picture had they kept it on a single DVD.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:42 AM

CHRISISALL


I'm serious, this movie look PHENOMENAL now. And I thought it looked great on the single DVD disc. Sonisall was pointing out the small tears in Sully's shirt after the 'dog' attack asking if those were there before.


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 7:46 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
My only qualm is about having to swap discs in the middle of the movie. That's so... LaserDisc!


Exactly!!! Amazing new entertainment technology in a retro format!!! COOL!!!!


The laughing Chrisisall


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:51 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER


I could watch them fly around on those pterodactyl thingies all day, the environment and special effects were amazing! Unfortunately, that's all it really has going for it. It was like fern gully or Pocahontas, but with cool creatures and weapons.

Spoilerish mini rant

Select to view spoiler:


"Oh we have this hard-to-findium that's worth a lot so we'll kick them out of this area to get at it. Okay, we kicked them out, got access to the stuff, so lets chase them down and try to kill more of 'em cause we're one dimensional characters and we just love killin' indians... er navi."



It's possible I may be a little biased because the friend who told me to go see it claimed it was better than Star Wars and made some less than favorable comments regarding Marines. I grew up watching dad's old star wars cassette tapes and my grandpa and sister are Marines. I almost waited until it came to the dollar theater to see it out of spite.

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:28 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
I could watch them fly around on those pterodactyl thingies all day, the environment and special effects were amazing! Unfortunately, that's all it really has going for it. It was like fern gully or Pocahontas, but with cool creatures and weapons.

Spoilerish mini rant

Select to view spoiler:


"Oh we have this hard-to-findium that's worth a lot so we'll kick them out of this area to get at it. Okay, we kicked them out, got access to the stuff, so lets chase them down and try to kill more of 'em cause we're one dimensional characters and we just love killin' indians... er navi."



It's possible I may be a little biased because the friend who told me to go see it claimed it was better than Star Wars and made some less than favorable comments regarding Marines. I grew up watching dad's old star wars cassette tapes and my grandpa and sister are Marines. I almost waited until it came to the dollar theater to see it out of spite.



They weren't Marine's, they were a private security company.

But really, that little blurb in your spoiler-box.... seems pretty consistent with how History has played out each and every time such a situation has arisen. Is acknowledging that so upsetting?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:44 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:

It's possible I may be a little biased because the friend who told me to go see it claimed it was better than Star Wars and made some less than favorable comments regarding Marines.



They weren't Marines, they were a private security company.



I could also see Cameron putting that little detail in at the last minute to avoid a backlash.

However, people that complain that it is "anti-Marine" also seem to conveniently forget that the hero of the movie IS a Marine...

I like the movie but I'm not a huge fan, so I'm not going to double-dip.

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:17 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:

the hero of the movie IS a Marine...


THANK YOU!!


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:27 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:


I could also see Cameron putting that little detail in at the last minute to avoid a backlash.





Except for the treatment for the movie leaking in the 90's.... and that element was there then.

I'm not double-dipping either, 'cuz I didn't buy the bare bones edition.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:36 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
hard-to-findium

LOL, I loved that it was named Unobtanium for two reasons.
1- It sounds like a stupid-ass corporate marketing ploy.
2- Reminds me of a certain Bullwinkle episode.


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:45 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:


I'm not double-dipping either, 'cuz I didn't buy the bare bones edition.


Terminator VHS, Aliens VHS, Abyss VHS, T2 VHS, Terminator DVD, Aliens DVD, Abyss DVD, T2 Ultimate DVD, Aliens SE DVD, Dark Angel seasons 1 & 2 DVD, T2 Extreme DVD, Avatar DVD, & now Avatar SE DVD...

I LIVE to pump my dough into Cameron's wallet...
(except for that mess 'Titanic')
Edited to add: True Lies VHS, True Lies DVD...

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:54 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


Quote:

They weren't Marine's, they were a private security company.


Yes, I know they weren't and that the hero is a Marine, I was referring to what a person said regarding marines. My friend seemed to think real marines were no better, but that ain't Avatar's fault. Just acknowledging that I might have started off with a bit of a bias on account of someone telling me it's better than my favorite movies and then telling me about how negatively it portrays the Marine Corps (both of which were lies of course).

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But really, that little blurb in your spoiler-box.... seems pretty consistent with how History has played out each and every time such a situation has arisen. Is acknowledging that so upsetting?


Not upsetting, just a tired unoriginal idea. The entire private security company (save our hero and the chopper girl) were one dimensional B Flat bad guys. The Navi were interesting, our hero was interesting, the special effects were amazing, but the big bad and the plot... simple, lame and overdone.

I like more complex villains, like the operative.

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:08 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:


I'm not double-dipping either, 'cuz I didn't buy the bare bones edition.


Terminator VHS, Aliens VHS, Abyss VHS, T2 VHS, Terminator DVD, Aliens DVD, Abyss DVD, T2 Ultimate DVD, Aliens SE DVD, Dark Angel seasons 1 & 2 DVD, T2 Extreme DVD, Avatar DVD, & now Avatar SE DVD...

I LIVE to pump my dough into Cameron's wallet...
(except for that mess 'Titanic')


The laughing Chrisisall




Well, sure, I have other copies of his older films. But a lot of that was changes in technology.

And those are mostly releases separated by many years, mostly.

In this case, it being just a few months between the releases, and knowing the good stuff would be coming with this one, I held off.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:14 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:


Yes, I know they weren't and that the hero is a Marine, I was referring to what a person said regarding marines. My friend seemed to think real marines were no better, but that ain't Avatar's fault. Just acknowledging that I might have started off with a bit of a bias on account of someone telling me it's better than my favorite movies and then telling me about how negatively it portrays the Marine Corps (both of which were lies of course).



Okay, I can see where you were coming from.

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Not upsetting, just a tired unoriginal idea. The entire private security company (save our hero and the chopper girl) were one dimensional B Flat bad guys. The Navi were interesting, our hero was interesting, the special effects were amazing, but the big bad and the plot... simple, lame and overdone.

I like more complex villains, like the operative.



I like complex villains, too. But in this case, it seemed like the natural villain, as in - that's probably how it would play out. I suppose making the main baddies deeper, more conflicted perhaps, would have worked, but that would have shifted the focus, and it seemed that Cameron was simply more interested in spending time with the Na'Vi than the humans (being that much of the deleted material does develop the human plot more).

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:16 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:


I could also see Cameron putting that little detail in at the last minute to avoid a backlash.





Except for the treatment for the movie leaking in the 90's.... and that element was there then.



Did not know that. I stand corrected then.
Still ain't gonna double-dip though!

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Terminator VHS, Aliens VHS, Abyss VHS, T2 VHS, Terminator DVD, Aliens DVD, Abyss DVD, T2 Ultimate DVD, Aliens SE DVD, Dark Angel seasons 1 & 2 DVD, Avatar DVD...



Throw in a T2 Special Edition LD, Abyss Letterbox VHS, True Lies DVD, Avatar BluRay and a Special Collectors Edition Titanic DVD (hey, it gets me some loving whenever we watch it ) and you have my collection. I'll be the first to say James Cameron is a damn fine filmaker.

Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
...just a tired unoriginal idea. The entire private security company (save our hero and the chopper girl) were one dimensional B Flat bad guys. The Navi were interesting, our hero was interesting, the special effects were amazing, but the big bad and the plot... simple, lame and overdone.

I like more complex villains, like the operative.



I'm in agreement with you. I am a big Cameron fan as you can tell, so I expected a lot stronger story for this film. I'm hoping he focuses on the story more for the sequel.



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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:56 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:

Not upsetting, just a tired unoriginal idea.

Sorry that history can be that way.
A line from the Extended Version went something like- peeps sitting on stuff you want? Make them enemies.
Classic history. And very unoriginal.

Not everything can be Star Trek.
Wait.
Star Trek did this shit too.

Oh well....


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:09 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I'm hoping he focuses on the story more for the sequel.


In the sequel, Sully will fight Terminators, get blinded, lose his girlfriend to pointy things, and die bringing peace to Pandora AND the machine-dominated Earth!

Or, maybe it will be good.


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:23 PM

CHRISISALL


See 'Message From Pandora' & get a sense of Cameron's passion for his story. It's pretty cool.




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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:26 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
In the sequel, Sully will fight Terminators, get blinded, lose his girlfriend to pointy things, and die bringing peace to Pandora AND the machine-dominated Earth!



LoL

How horrid!
That sounds like something my 6yr old would come up with!

Hey....wait...

Don't even get me started on the Matrix sequels...

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:51 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:


Don't even get me started on the Matrix sequels...

Can ya tell how much residual disgust I harbour?
Still tryin' to let go of that...


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:55 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Still tryin' to let go of that...



I'm not...it keeps me warm...

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Just watching deleted scenes in Avatar, rest assured they were gone for a reason- the Extended Version is definitive, IMO.
So. Maybe a 3D version will be issued, if so, Sonisall can buy it. This is where I stop. Happily.

Until the Blu Ray release of Dark Angel makes me go all hi-tek.
But thankfully, that's a long way off...


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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:37 PM

FREMDFIRMA


See me, I wouldn't mind the disc-change - being a traditionalist and all, I'm rather fond of the idea of "Intermission" and the chance to go pee, get a pop refill and more popcorn, neh ?

I wasn't too fond of the 3D version even on the big screen, the image quality suffered a bit for it, and while there's a few "wow!" scenes, a lot of the time it isn't even all that noticeable, and when it *IS*, the scene in question has NO need of such treatment... seriously, a mission briefing ?
Especially when I am sittin in a theatre ALREADY tryin to look over the heads of people taller than me, yeaaah, way to go, Cameron you twit!

I did like the movie, but freely acknowledge that even though I am on "his" side, Cameron came at the story a little ham-fisted, portraying the "other side" so two dimensionally and flat that it took away from the tale, could it have killed him to humanize them a little bit, or even tell us WHY they needed the stuff and what it was used for - especially if that added some moral ambiguity ?

Select to view spoiler:


And my biggest bitch is just how trite and idiotic that last fight with the mecha versus the kitty was, lame, predictable, stupid and illogical - Colonel goes DOWN WITH THE BIRD, end story, don't play the same ridiculous gig as every dumbass action flick since get-go, especially when your audience is expecting better of you! - if he really NEEDED a scene to pad in the "I See You" bit, fine, Colonel tries it, and augers in right through the goddamn container, and yon girlfriend quickly finishes his wounded, crushed ass off - film that in POV format from the Colonels point of view so the audience can empathise with his fear of the place and it's creatures, if only for a moment, and THEN cut to the whole Jake suffocating thing, yeesh...


Still a great movie - I like Lawdogs HILARIOUS review of the film, as well.
http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2010/01/dancing-with-hippies.html
Quote:

And let me tell you, young Jimmy Cameron is right fond of laying his politics on with a trowel before beating them home with a four-pound sledge hammer. Subtle, the man is not.

Hehehe.

Anyhows, I been holding off (and I don't do Blu-Ray, cause of Tech/DRM issues) cause it seems a meme today to offer cut down versions first, and try to sell you the same movie six times, and I don't play that game.
Imma likely go with this one in standard issue DVD format if I can find it though.

-Frem

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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:50 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
or even tell us WHY they needed the stuff

The Extended Version tells it- to help prepare for the coming war.
Again, old story, but so f***ing relevant.


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Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:25 AM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
or even tell us WHY they needed the stuff

The Extended Version tells it- to help prepare for the coming war.




Do they expand on that or just leave it at that?

I was hoping the unobtanium (a half billion dollar budget and thats the name they come up with? COME ON!!!) would somehow be vital to humanity's survival. That would make an interesting moral situation when they return to Pandora.

Actually, is there any word on the sequel? I haven't heard anything, but really haven't been paying attention either.

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:19 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I was hoping the unobtanium (a half billion dollar budget and thats the name they come up with? COME ON!!!) would somehow be vital to humanity's survival. That would make an interesting moral situation when they return to Pandora.

Actually, is there any word on the sequel? I haven't heard anything, but really haven't been paying attention either.

America is overspending on weapons compared to the entire rest of the world. The world cheered for overarmed, overbearing Americans losing to blue spear-chuckers: Avatar earned 72.6% of its money overseas. www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avatar.htm

As for the moral situation, I think it is safe to assume in the sequel to Avatar that America will not survive without unobtainium, therefore Pandora must give it or feel our wrath. Same thing happened with bananas and Central America. (Oil and Middle East? I'm not extending my argument there. It's too controversial.) I'm guessing that in the sequel, America is coming back with H-bombs and Pandora will kick our ass, again. I predict Avatar 2 will earn most of its money overseas.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:25 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by two:
America is overspending on weapons compared to the entire rest of the world. The world cheered for overarmed, overbearing Americans losing to blue spear-chuckers: Avatar earned 72.6% of its money overseas. www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avatar.htm



Fascinating stat, and I don't disagree completely with the assumption that you're making, though I'd like to see the screen %distribution first. If it holds up maybe we should consider making a new genre: American Devastation Pictures, films that portray the various ways of schwacking the US and our "values." If you're right, they would be hugely popular with the rest of the world and at the same time the profits could be used as a way of paying off our national debt. Wouldn't that be ironical.

As far as Avatar SE - definitely wasn't a big fan of the story but the look of the 2D film was amazing, so I'm definitely looking forward to getting this release - I think especially to see the extras.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:33 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Moose:

Do they expand on that or just leave it at that?

The comment is just sort of tossed out there.
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unobtanium (a half billion dollar budget and thats the name they come up with? COME ON!!!)

I take it that's the name the corporate dudes hung on it to make it sound cool for the public of the future. Typical, really.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, November 18, 2010 7:47 AM

IMNOTHERE


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Originally posted by Moose:

nobtanium (a half billion dollar budget and thats the name they come up with? COME ON!!!)

I take it that's the name the corporate dudes hung on it to make it sound cool for the public of the future. Typical, really.




Actually, it was a callout to SF fandom: "unobtanium" is a sarcastic term for all those imaginary substances like Dilithium, Beryllium Spheres, Naquada, Element X, Dureum, Neutronium, or Cavorite used in SF as maguffins or to hand-wave away the laws of physics.

Unfortunately, "The Core" got there first.

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:53 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Moose:

nobtanium (a half billion dollar budget and thats the name they come up with? COME ON!!!)

I take it that's the name the corporate dudes hung on it to make it sound cool for the public of the future. Typical, really.




Actually, it was a callout to SF fandom: "unobtanium" is a sarcastic term for all those imaginary substances like Dilithium, Beryllium Spheres, Naquada, Element X, Dureum, Neutronium, or Cavorite used in SF as maguffins or to hand-wave away the laws of physics.

Unfortunately, "The Core" got there first.



Not quite accurate. The term was originally coined to identify a substance that does what it does in the movie - super-conduct at room temperature. It was not a catch-all for imaginary substances, nor was it really intended to be sarcastic - but instead was a placeholder name created by scientists to covey the idea of what they were trying to discover.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:58 AM

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Avatar earned 72.6% of its money overseas. www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avatar.htm



Uh... most action movies make more overseas than they do here. Because the rest of the world is bigger than us, and action translates more easily than other genres.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:47 AM

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Avatar earned 72.6% of its money overseas. www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=avatar.htm



Uh... most action movies make more overseas than they do here. Because the rest of the world is bigger than us, and action translates more easily than other genres.


Wrong. It's because Avatar is a blatantly Anti-American, Anti-Capitalist, Anti-Imperialist, pro-Indigenous backwater dirtbag idiots propagandist tripe movie that only USA-haters & Marxist Socialist scum would like.

At least, that's what I read.

Personally, I think it glorifies the simplicity & innate *goodness* of a less technologically advanced society a *tad* too much, but in every other aspect it's a really good flick. And it NAILS the Corporate exploitative mentality.
"I don't know about YOU, but I see a LOT of trees around here. They can move."


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Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:59 PM

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Personally, I think it glorifies the simplicity & innate *goodness* of a less technologically advanced society a *tad* too much, but in every other aspect it's a really good flick. And it NAILS the Corporate exploitative mentality.


Well said, I agree. It was a good action flick. Not nearly as very deep or thought provoking as something like this could have been, but it was fun to watch.

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Friday, November 19, 2010 4:39 PM

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Personally, I think it glorifies the simplicity & innate *goodness* of a less technologically advanced society a *tad* too much...



AHA!!! YOU ADMIT IT SUCKS!!!
I KNEW IT!!!! BWAHAHAHA!!!

Damn you, Chris...I've been intent on NOT double-dipping, but I was at Amazon earlier to order Chuck Season 3 and noticed the Avatar BluRay was only $25....almost got it instead...if the price is still the same when payday rolls around...I just might find myself getting the damn thing.







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Friday, November 19, 2010 5:21 PM

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Damn you, Chris......I just might find myself getting the damn thing.



I blame myself.

It's immersive (new word there). Like a drug. Jimmy designed his new world well. Lighter than Aliens or T2, but oh so imaginative.



The laughing Chrisisall


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Friday, November 19, 2010 10:56 PM

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I could watch them fly around on those pterodactyl thingies all day, the environment and special effects were amazing! Unfortunately, that's all it really has going for it.
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Yep, thats pretty much how I felt about it. I liked being in Pandora much more than anything else. The story was mediocre at best, but the way it was told, the FX and the acting perfs were top notch.

Saw it twice: with my son and with my 2 nieces. Everyone enjoyed it, and my son is hard on movies (it has to be excellent for him to like it). So, there you have it.

I think that they added the extra footage from Pandora because thats most people liked about the film.


SGG

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