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Equilibrium

POSTED BY: FRANCO
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Saturday, June 26, 2004 5:47 PM

FRANCO


I just caught this Kurt Wimmer flick on Showtime last week.

It is a post apocalypse cross between Matrix and F415 interesting action scenes with an original twist, a martial arts discipline with hand guns called gun kata

It had a short release and got some terrible reviews but it was a pleasant surprise to me.I understand it has become a "cult favorite" which everyone here should relate to.

Try it you'll like it


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Saturday, June 26, 2004 6:02 PM

BLUESUNCORPORATEGOON


I really enjoyed that movie myself,thought the story ,the action and the acting was well done,some fairly large names for a movie that was in theaters for about 2 weeks.

I'll be in my bunk.-Jayne

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:57 PM

MAKEROFPATHS


I liked it so much I bought the movie :-)

Never saw it in the theatre listings but a friend rushed up to me after seeing it on a movie channel and told me how much he liked it. He hadn't heard of it before. So I bought the DVD. It was quite well done, but mainstream critics can't relate to this stuff so at the risk of sounding "silly" recommending an SF movie, they pan it. No imagination.

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:40 PM

QUICKSAND


I don't know where you read your reviews, but the reviews *I* remember reading were quite mixed. It got all the comparisons to "The Matrix," of course, but it's really not even the same kind of movie. It's got more in common with "1984" than it does anything with Keanu.

It didn't get a release in the U.S. just because it turned a profit overseas first, and the producers just wanted to keep the money rather than mount a huge advertising campaign here in the States. Good movie though, worth watching...

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Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:49 PM

RELFEXIVE


It is quite good... not perfect, but what is, but good nonetheless.

Funny with always-dies-before-film-ends Sean Pertwee too

Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 3:18 AM

SPIKESMORTICIA


I rented the movie only because it had Christian Bale in it, and ended up really liking the movie. It was well done and even though it had Matrix like undertones, I felt it could definitely stand on it's own.

Where did you buy the DVD? This is one movie that I would definitely like to have in my collection.

Being a hero doesn't mean you succeed in saving the day.... it just means you tried.

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 6:10 AM

CREVANREAVER


I also watched it on Showtime a little while ago. I thought it was great and I found the whole concept of Gun Kata incredible interesting and highly imaginative. I searched through the internet and found a lot of background information on the movie. Using all available info, I came up with a synopsis of the history of the Equilibrium World just for fun.

I hope you guys like it!

After a horrendous global nuclear war in the middle of the tweny-first century those who survived knew mankind could never survive another war like it, that humanity's own volatile natures could simply no longer be risked. So they turned North America into a vast citadel realm known as "Libria", under a ruling party called the Tetragrammaton, the Greek term for the ineffable four-letter Hebrew name of God. The leader of the Tetragrammaton was simply called ”Father“. Libria was created with the idea that the true source of man's inhumanity to man is his ability to feel.

The government outlawed the human quality most likely to give rise to future conflicts: emotion. Father believed that emotions are a disease in the heart of man and it’s symptoms are hate, anger, rage and war. In response to this, the entire population of Libria has been placed on a daily regimen of Prozium, a drug that suppresses all emotions. Citizens of Libria obtain their Prozium at distribution centers called Equilibrium. With it, they anesthetize grief, annihilate jealousy, obliterate rage. That those sister impulses towards joy, love, and elation are anesthetized in stride, they accept as fair sacrifice. And it is this conscience that guided the government to rate the emotional content all those things that might tempt them to feel again and destroy them. The Tetragrammaton has declared illegal anything that stimulates human emotions: art, music, poetry, literature, and even such things as puppies. Feeling is a crime punishable by death.

A repressed version of utopia is achieved because no one suffers unhappiness or depression, and since hatred has been eradicated, war is fundamentally impossible. It's the preservation of the human race by a most drastic means. Of course, a central disadvantage is the associated purging of empathy, compassion, and remorse.

To make sure that the population of Libria doesn't yield to emotional temptation, the government has also created an elite monastic force known as the Grammaton Clerics. These highly skilled martial artists seek out and destroy emotional objects that remain and, if necessary, those who attempted to own them along with perpetrators of "sense offenses," rebels who refuse to part with (or seek to regain) their emotions. These "sense offenders" are shot dead or brought to the Chamber of Hell Fire to be burned.

Ironically, the Grammaton Clerics, are finely developed sensors, who mask their ability to feel under the title of the "Intuitive Arts." This intuition they place at the service of ferreting out sense offenders. The Clerics are the government point-men and designated hitters in the frequent shootouts with armed sense offenders, who are loath to surrender themselves for Processing, and persist in hopelessly defending their hoarded copies of old artwork, books, music and anything else that would provoke creative thought and emotion. A Cleric channels sensing into intuition, and aggression into lawful killing, which is a moral imperative, because of the great risk that feelings pose to society at large.

The Clerics are trained in the art of Gun Kata, which is a militant combat style that teaches efficiency in the use of gun tactics based upon the premise that the positions and actions of antagonists can be predicted to a high degree of accuracy in any given combat situation.

Developed through analysis of thousands of recorded gun fights, it was determined that the geometric distribution of antagonists in any gun battle is a statistically predictable element. Gun-kata is based on a scientific analysis of bullet trajectory and range based on the mathematical possible outcomes of a gunfight.

A close quarters gun-based martial art, Gun Kata emphasizes kata, or body positioning and movement exercises. This is important because each kata of Gun Kata is designed for maximum efficiency in both lethal force and defense. It is of course impossible to see an oncoming bullet and dodge it, but an advanced Gun Kata practitioner can put himself in the least statistically possible place to be hit at each moment of a gun fight.

The Gun Kata treats the gun as a total weapon. Each new position representing a maximum kill zone, inflicting maximum damage on the maximum number of opponents, while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire. By the mastery of this art, a person’s firing efficiency will rise by no less than 120%.

Because this is a martial-arts form that analyzes all the patterns and possibilities of fire-arm combat, a master of this art is able to predict and even sense an offenders next action, allowing them to react to actions that have not even occurred. Although Grammaton Clerics are human and can die from wounds as any other person, the mastery of Gun Kata make them seemingly invincible to all projectiles fired from a fire-arm.

Sense offenders live primarily outside the citadel in a deserted suburbia called The Zone; some people who live within the citadel try to fake being on Prozium. A group of sense offenders have organized a resistance movement to destroy Father and his government. The Resistance puts high value on emotion and feeling. For them, violence, death, war, and crime are a small price to pay to be able to feel happiness, joy, anger, and even sadness.

In Libria, the citizens are under the vigilant eyes of heavily armed men at all times. Each person is relegated to their space. Solitude and uniformity are the two attributes of the Librians. At every turn, the Librians are reminded of their good fortune to be in this condition. Each one keeps watch on every other, helping them to guard against the evils of sense offense. Librians compete to demonstrate loyalty to Father, by rejecting their impulse to feel with eager certainty. Libria rewards those citizens who pursue their practice of self-repression zealously. In Libria, all public gatherings are supervised by men dressed in body armor and motorcycle helmets, patrolling with assault rifles at the ready. All public gatherings appear to be for the purpose of imbibing Father's wisdom, which flows freely from giant telescreens, all day, every day.

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:04 AM

FRANCO


Very good synopsis. I enjoyed reading it.

Thanks to all for the validation that is is a good film.

Considering the limited distribution and luke warm response it received, I was feeling a bit self conscientious about my favorable opinion.

I am often a shameless apologist for bad scifi.

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:18 AM

QUICKSAND


It's not bad sci-fi. It's just pretty much ANY martial arts movie pales in comparison now that we've all seen "The Matrix," and the plot beneath it was, yeah, thinly stolen from 1984. But it's not BAD Sci-Fi... if anything, it's more emotionally charged than most brainless action movies, so the appeal was more limited.

If it had been released in the theatres, it could have pulled down a respectable $40-50 million.

Kurt Wimmer's next movie, according to the IMDB, is something called, "Ultraviolet," currently set for release sometime in 2004. It's plot is something like:

Quote:

Set in the late 21st century, a subculture of humans have emerged who have been modified genetically by a vampire-like disease (Hemophagia), giving them enhanced speed, incredible stamina and acute intelligence, and as they are set apart from "normal" and "healthy" humans, the world is pushed to the brink of worldwide civil war (a war between humans and hemophages) aimed at the destruction of the "diseased" population.

In the middle of this crossed-fire is - an infected woman - Ultraviolet (played by Milla Jovovich), who finds herself protecting a nine-year-old boy who has been marked for death by the human government as he is believed to be a threat to humans.



I dunno, there's bad sci-fi, and then there's high-concept but low-budget sci-fi... I'd take this over the crap they show on the Sci-Fi channel any day.

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:28 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by franco:
Very good synopsis. I enjoyed reading it.

Thanks to all for the validation that is is a good film.

Considering the limited distribution and luke warm response it received, I was feeling a bit self conscientious about my favorable opinion.



Saw this quite by accident during its one or two limited weeks in the UK cinemas (this film rocks on the big screen) - can't remember what film we were aiming to see, but missed that due to a Monkeyball related error (addictive little thing that game) so caught Equilibrium instead.

The plot and dialogue suggests that they thought this was a little more important than it actually was (cf Matrix 2&3 and 1 when you think about it) - but it looks stunning (and cost a fraction of most blockbusters). Mostly a UK cast, though oddly Christian Bale has an American accent (I'm fairly certain this and American Psycho got him the Batman gig).

This idea is pretty cool, and the fight sequences are truly innovative - given usually you only get variations on wire-fu, the gun kata scenes are stunning and leave you grinning from ear to ear. The region 2 DVD acknowledges the true strength of the film, with a "jump to fight" option.

I have described this to people as the the best bad film ever, and everyone that has seen it agrees on both counts.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:34 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by Quicksand:
Kurt Wimmer's next movie, according to the IMDB, is something called, "Ultraviolet," currently set for release sometime in 2004. It's plot is something like:
Quote:

Set in the late 21st century, a subculture of humans have emerged who have been modified genetically by a vampire-like disease (Hemophagia), giving them enhanced speed, incredible stamina and acute intelligence, and as they are set apart from "normal" and "healthy" humans, the world is pushed to the brink of worldwide civil war (a war between humans and hemophages) aimed at the destruction of the "diseased" population.In the middle of this crossed-fire is - an infected woman - Ultraviolet (played by Milla Jovovich), who finds herself protecting a nine-year-old boy who has been marked for death by the human government as he is believed to be a threat to humans.




Hmmm - sounds oddly like the British mini-series Ultra-violet, which was about vampires as well (lead actor played the commodore in Pirates of the Caribbean). I seem to recall they tried to remake it in the US (may even have made a few episodes). The plot of the film is different, but the use of the same name would be an odd choice otherwise. Then again, Wimmer isn't know for his stunningly original ideas.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 1:27 PM

MAKEROFPATHS


Quote:

Originally posted by SpikesMorticia:
Where did you buy the DVD? This is one movie that I would definitely like to have in my collection.



I bought it second-hand here in Toronto, but I see it at Amazon.com for $16. US, only for Region 1 players.

Crevanreaver:
Great synopisis. Made me want to pitch it into the player and watch it again, which I'll do momentarily.



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Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:08 PM

DBELL46


I caught this film in the theater during its limited
engagement. As the saying goes, "I may not know art,
but I know what I like". This film was the most fun
I had in a theater that year.

I found the concept of the gun-kata original and
innovative. All of the gun fights were spectacular
on the big screen. and the final confrontation with the "knife fight" with pistols blew me away!

It borrowed shamelessly from 1984, but I thought it was well directed, the story was tight and well
written, and the acting left nothing to be desired.

I think that this movie had the same trouble as
firefly in that the studio didn't know what to
make of it once they had it. In the commentary it
mentions that women responded more strongly to the
film than men, understandable since its about the
universal women's complaint of a man getting in
touch with his emotions.

I wish the film had done better in the theater
since I'd like to see some of the director's
techniques used in other films



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Sunday, June 27, 2004 10:12 PM

QUICKSAND


Quote:

Hmmm - sounds oddly like the British mini-series Ultra-violet, which was about vampires as well (lead actor played the commodore in Pirates of the Caribbean). I seem to recall they tried to remake it in the US (may even have made a few episodes). The plot of the film is different, but the use of the same name would be an odd choice otherwise. Then again, Wimmer isn't know for his stunningly original ideas.


The actor in question is Jack Davenport, who also starred in the BBC's "Coupling" ... another great show with a terrible, awful American remake.

On the IMDB, the TV Ultraviolet is listed as a BBC mini-series, so... maybe there's something in common, maybe there isn't. Can we expect more original style, more stolen substance from Kurt Wimmer? Let me consult my Magic 8-Ball....

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:21 PM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Quicksand:On the IMDB, the TV Ultraviolet is listed as a BBC mini-series...



Really? That's odd; it was shown on Channel 4...

Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Monday, June 28, 2004 11:18 AM

MRSKBORG


Ultra Violet was shown on Channel 4, and it was actaully quite good. As for equilibrium its great but underrated film. I saw it at about the same time as the second Matrix film and thought it was better.

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Monday, June 28, 2004 11:37 AM

CREVANREAVER


The BBC Ultraviolet and the Kurt Wimmer Ultraviolet are completely separate projects. They just "happen" to have the same title and be about vampires. The BBC Ultraviolet was a miniseries that ran in 1997 or 1998, however the new Ultraviolet feature film won't be out for quite a while.

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Monday, June 28, 2004 11:46 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by mrskborg:
Ultra Violet was shown on Channel 4, and it was actaully quite good. As for equilibrium its great but underrated film. I saw it at about the same time as the second Matrix film and thought it was better.



My only problem with Ultraviolet was it ran out of steam. Nice concept, great first episode, then it didn't seem to have the right pacing (as if they stretched four episodes to six). Still, all this talk makes me want to go and re-watch my DVD set. Aside from Invasion:Earth (now that was BBC, and another mini-series that didn't quite work), one of the few British SF shows we had in the 90s.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, June 28, 2004 11:52 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
The BBC Ultraviolet and the Kurt Wimmer Ultraviolet are completely separate projects. They just "happen" to have the same title and be about vampires. The BBC Ultraviolet was a miniseries that ran in 1997 or 1998, however the new Ultraviolet feature film won't be out for quite a while.



To be clear, Kurt Wimmer has never read 1984 or The Matrix, or that Ridley Scott Apple advert, or Blade Runner.

Neither has he seen the Negotiator before penning the ending to The Recruit, or Top Gun.

In the same way the makers of Underworld had never heard of the World of Darkness RPGs or Anne Rice (who in turn had never heard of Bram Stoker).

Kurt Wimmer - Tarantino's xeroxed magpie twin.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Monday, June 28, 2004 12:21 PM

KARENKAY99


well, we watched. mostly based on the recommendations read here. and because the daughter thinks christian bale is a hottie.
it was pretty good. i kept thinking ooh, this part is going to be predictable but was pleasantly surprised several times. thanks!!

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Monday, June 28, 2004 2:49 PM

QUICKSAND


Quote:


Kurt Wimmer - Tarantino's xeroxed magpie twin.



What an odd thing to say.

People shouldn't be REWARDED for their ignorance. "Oh, he never bothered to read George Orwell, in his life, so it's okay."

No, it's not okay. And the comparison to Tarantino doesn't sit right, either, because Tarantino sees EVERYthing. He borrows from the best and makes it his own. If Wimmer accidentally re-invents a theme from a book he hasn't read, but I'VE read it... does that make him better or worse than Quentin Tarantino?

On the originality part we can debate, but on the creativity part, it's a lot easier to BE creative when you know what's come before you. Those who don't learn history..........

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Monday, June 28, 2004 5:00 PM

BEATLE


Ever since 'Empire of the Sun' I will watch any movie with Christian Bale.
I liked 'Equilibrium' much more than Matrix. Of course I didn't think much of Matrix at all.

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Monday, June 28, 2004 6:03 PM

THOREAU


Christian Bale sucks. I've never seen anyone consistently praised for NOT acting. "his character is supposed to be emotionless" yeah, that's why he looks like that in every single role. "he's a crazy psychopath, and yet he looks completely calm! that's amazing!" not it isn't, it's NOT acting.

bah

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Monday, June 28, 2004 7:57 PM

QUICKSAND


Funny you should phrase it like that. The very first time I saw "Firefly" -- I saw the pilot on tape in late August 2002 -- I really disliked Nathan Fillion as Mal. I had never seen nor heard of Fillion before, and was just annoyed at how LITTLE he did with the character.

He grew on me, of course. There were lots of tiny subtleties it took me a while to pick up on, and they grew on me. He was playing the character, alright, but he wasn't Capital-A, Capital-C, Capital-T ... ing. Y'know, overdoing it.

The first thing I saw Christian Bale in was "Swing Kids," and he sucked in it, but only because he had a TV director who only got the gig because he did a few good episodes of "Miami Vice." That's not a movie, that's a TV movie.

"Empire of the Sun?" Great acting job. "American Psycho," ditto. "Reign of Fire," not a great movie, but some great acting from all 3 leads. I'm not saying I'd follow him to ANY movie he does or anything, but he does pick interesting parts and notch credible performances. If you don't believe me, look back on all the movies of his we've discussed, and imagine Keanu Reeves in the same role.

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Monday, June 28, 2004 11:30 PM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by thoreau:
Christian Bale sucks. I've never seen anyone consistently praised for NOT acting. "his character is supposed to be emotionless" yeah, that's why he looks like that in every single role. "he's a crazy psychopath, and yet he looks completely calm! that's amazing!" not it isn't, it's NOT acting.

bah




An overtly crazy psychopath would get caught because he was acting, y'know, crazy. A psychopathic sociopath, now... such a person would do his best to fit in and take advantage of everyone too, and be crazy inside, and thus, y'know, appear normal.

There's a difference between "He's a psychopath" and "OMG! He's psycho!"

Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:37 AM

FRANCO


Regarding Ultraviolet, the theme of Vampires as a species seems to be popular these days with several failed series and a few movies.

One recent such turkey was "The Breed" with Adrian Paul. The movie was not as bad as the casting of AP.

Too bad about AP for his bad choice of roles since "Highlander". The first time I saw him in "Highlander" I thought, "my god, it's James Bond".

If he is not careful he will lose his opportunity to be the next 007 by the vacuous projects he has been associated with recently.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:35 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by Quicksand:
Quote:


Kurt Wimmer - Tarantino's xeroxed magpie twin.



What an odd thing to say.

On the originality part we can debate, but on the creativity part, it's a lot easier to BE creative when you know what's come before you. Those who don't learn history..........



Think you misunderstand - I find it hard to believe Wimmer when he protests he hasn't seen or read these things. Tarantino indeed does take bits of other films and do some great things with them, but he is prone to forgetting that he stole some things in the first place.



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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:37 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by franco:
Too bad about AP for his bad choice of roles since "Highlander". The first time I saw him in "Highlander" I thought, "my god, it's James Bond". If he is not careful he will lose his opportunity to be the next 007 by the vacuous projects he has been associated with recently.



We can but hope he has lost his shot at Bond - and having seen the trailer of King Arthur, I am a little concerned about Clive Owen (although contrary to AP, I have seen him act in roles so suspect he may be sleep walking through a bad movie).



"I threw up on your bed"

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 3:02 PM

QUICKSAND


Quote:


Think you misunderstand - I find it hard to believe Wimmer when he protests he hasn't seen or read these things. Tarantino indeed does take bits of other films and do some great things with them, but he is prone to forgetting that he stole some things in the first place.



So we've got one side who does a bad thing then lies about it... and another side who isn't even aware they've done anything bad at all.

There we have it, kids, the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Who do YOU prefer?

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:28 PM

MINH


I highly recommend Hero if you like wire-fu/martial arts, although Jet Li performance was mediocre.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:25 PM

MAKEROFPATHS


Quote:

Originally posted by minh:
I highly recommend Hero if you like wire-fu/martial arts, although Jet Li performance was mediocre.



Did you see this in Asia? Seems to me it was released many months ago in Japan and other countries. Just making it here in NorthAm. It looks hot!

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:38 PM

MINH


My cousin has the imported DVD. FYI I live in Southern California

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Friday, July 2, 2004 5:32 PM

KOHAN


Quote:

If you don't believe me, look back on all the movies of his we've discussed, and imagine Keanu Reeves in the same role.



oh God NO~! you've just mind-raped me...

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Guess I'm just a good man.

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Friday, July 2, 2004 5:45 PM

KOHAN


well, all I have to say is I'm REALLY excited about 2005. Not only is the BDM comming out, but because of Batman Begins, Red Dwarf: The Movie and maybe New Police Story as well.


oh yeah, if there's room left over, maybe I'll be excited for Episode III.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:46 AM

TURANTHOR


Equilibrium is an excellent film.

I was heavily excited reading about it online for months before it was due to be released. Then they moved the release date to December, then they shafted it with like a 300 screen debut.

So they basically gave up on it before it ever started. However, I drove about 70 miles to a theater in a small town that for whatever reason got it, when my Capital City of 1 Million people did not?? weird.

Seeing it on the Big Screen is just awesome. It made the movie better having seen it like that at least once. Every time I watch it on DVD now I always remember that experience.

This is an awesome movie, I have not seen many in recent years that I have liked better, and certainly not any Sci-fi.

I am glad to see Christian Bale is bidding to become an action star. He is already a great actor, so it will be cool if he can break into the big action star niche as well. Would be nice to have a great actor playing all the action roles, so we can really get our money's worth.

Batman Begins definitely looks like a step in the right irection.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:08 AM

CREVANREAVER


Quote:

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Batman Begins definitely looks like a step in the right direction.



Just in case you're interested, here is a link to the Batman Begins script!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=5466

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Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:17 AM

RHYMEPHILE


Huh, sounds interesting enough (and summer TV being the way it is -- blargh) that I added it to my queue at Netflix. They have it, so perhaps if one were to look hard enough maybe you could find it at Blockbuster or other rental places.

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 6:55 AM

ANKHAGOGO


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Originally posted by RelFexive:
Funny with always-dies-before-film-ends Sean Pertwee too



If we're thinking of the same person, I believe the Sean you're referring to in this movie is Sean Bean, aka Boromir aka Richard Sharpe aka That Irish Terrorist Dude in Patriot Games. He does have a very bad track record when it comes to making it out of movies alive.





"You two are the two who are the two! I'm the other one!"

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Saturday, August 7, 2004 12:42 PM

LUPINADDAMS


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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
Quote:

Originally posted by RelFexive:
Funny with always-dies-before-film-ends Sean Pertwee too



Quote:

If we're thinking of the same person, I believe the Sean you're referring to in this movie is Sean Bean


No, he really does mean Sean Pertwee... he plays the Father of the Equilibrium universe and as an actor has a history of dying in pretty much every movie he's ever been in.
Confusingly, Sean Bean is Bale's first partner who dies at his hand in the church reading Yeats (one thing I love about this film is the sheer *unsubtlty* of the plot and imagery - from the burning of the Mona Lisa opening to Bale wiping out a dozen security guards to save the life of an iccle puppy dog...)

Pertwee (yes, he is the son of the third Dr. Who, Jon Pertwee) is at his best in the low-budget British werewolves-meet-squaddies flick Dog Soldiers - great fun if you have a strong stomach!

Plus FWIW I enjoyed the original Ultraviolet and I think there was a US TV remake which flopped.


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Saturday, August 7, 2004 1:15 PM

RELFEXIVE


Yup, I did mean *that* Sean Pertwee.

He's died before the end of every film I've seen him in... he lastest longest in Dog Soldiers, and went the quickest in Equilibrium.

And yes, that Yeats moment... Nice. I wish I could actually remember all the words of that poem instead of just the end... But here's the whole thing, anyway... just because I can.


He Wishes For The Cloths Of Heaven

Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.


Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so... very... pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Monday, August 9, 2004 3:30 AM

ANKHAGOGO


Man, I really don't remember Sean Pertwee in that at all. It has been a few months since I've seen it, although I remember Taye Diggs was there, too. Perhaps I shall be forced to watch it again. The humanity. :)

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Monday, September 6, 2004 4:42 PM

CREVANREAVER


Speaking of Taye Diggs, I suggest everyone check out the new show Kevin Hill on UPN real soon. Hopefully it will be a great alternative to the crappiness of Joey on NBC.

NBC = Nothing But Caucasians


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Tuesday, September 7, 2004 12:07 AM

GROUNDED


I have Equilibrium on DVD. All I can say is: Meh.

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Saturday, May 21, 2005 3:24 PM

YT

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same


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Originally posted by someone else, a day or two ago:
Anyone else see this cool flick?


Dude, FRANCO already created a thread about this movie nearly a year ago.


Thanks for the link, and the synopsis.

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