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Remebrance Day 2017

POSTED BY: BRENDA
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Friday, November 10, 2017 8:22 PM

BRENDA




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On the 11th hour of the 11 day of the 11 month the guns of WWI fell silent. This was repeated for WWII as well.

This day we honour and remember the sacrifices made for our freedom. The men and women who returned home injured, the lucky ones uninjured and the ones who never returned home, the fallen.

Those buried on foreign soil who made the ultimate sacrifice.

Please leave a message, memory or thought.

As I have said my dad was a veteran of WWII. He is always in my heart.

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Friday, November 10, 2017 8:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


As was mine, may he rest in peace. If his story were written, no one would believe it was true.

Many soldiers fell in combat, many civilians were killed. It's hard for us, in our relatively comfortable worlds, to imagine what it must have been like, cowering in a basement while shells collided overhead, or starving in a prisoner of war camp.

It's good to "reset" our POV every now and again, to appreciate what we have and what our parents and grandparents did to secure our future. I hope that we would be able to do the same for our children and grandchildren.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Friday, November 10, 2017 9:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Thank you for posting Brenda.

I can't imagine what it must be like to go to war, or to have war come to you. We're the lucky ones, so far.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Friday, November 10, 2017 10:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't have any memories to share. My grandpa died when I was 4, and I barely remember him. I've been told that he was there on D-Day but never talked about it.

It's kind of sad the state of things in this country and the world right now. We've generally known peace all of my life. Skirmishes here and there and these "eternal wars" we've got going on in the middle east, sure, but it's entirely possible for somebody in many places to just tune out of the news altogether and not even recognize these battles. That would have been impossible to do in the 40's, at a time long before 24 hour cable news and the internet and cell phones.

What do we do with this gift? We argue and fight. All the time.

Why do we suck so much?

How does a community of 7+ Billion people who are capable of so many great things never learn from any of their collective mistakes?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 3:09 AM

BRENDA


My mom had uncles in WWI. My dad was the only member of his family to serve. He had cousins that served in Scotland. He met them during the war when his unit was assigned up there briefly.

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:07 AM

OONJERAH


My dad had 3 sisters, 3 brothers. The 3 brothers served in WWII.
Dad didn't serve 'cause he was a) married w/child, b) working for the
Navy as an aircraft mechanic.
  My mom, raised on a farm in Missouri, had just 1 brother. I believe
on or about his 18th birthday, he took off & joined the Navy; he stayed
there maybe 40 years, until he finally wanted to retire.
  I don't know that my family was particularly patriotic. Everyone wanted
to get rid of Hitler. I guess the War in Europe began 3 Sept 1939, when
Hitler began to invade & take over adjoining countries, & France & Britain
declared War against Germany. I've read, USA wasn't too keen to join up,
as there was a strong isolationist attitude here since WWI. ... But some
of our guys went by way of Canada to join up.
  Germany did surrender in April & May of 1945; once to the Soviet Union
& later to the western Allies.
  The Divine Wind. 7 Dec 1941, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.
I guess they (Japanese diplomats) meant to warn the White House about
10 minutes before the attack; but their typist was too slow. Anyways,
it came across as criminally sneaky; & made us really mad.
  Mom's bro was stationed at Pearl when it was attacked. But his was
one of several ships that were out on manuevers & missed the whole attack.
Mom & Gramma spent days worrying about it until they got word that he
was OK.
  Japan surrendered 15 Aug 1945.

Later came N Korea vs S Korea, 1950-53.

Vietnam, the American War, 1955-75.
We called it a police action; they called it an invasion.
So I still don't know what it was about. Spread of Communism maybe.
The USA was only involved in it for 8 years?

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:24 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


My dad served USN, not in war.
His uncle died in 1941 in Hawaii, USMC. Not from war.
His cousin served USMC, not in war. Told me not to join.
My grandfather's grandfather died in the Prussion War, from medical complications.
I think my mother's uncle served in Army, possibly during WWII.
I served USMC, not in war. Some of my fellow Boot Camp recruits died in the Beirut Bombing.
After me, my cousin served USAF.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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On the 11th hour of the 11 day of the 11 month the guns of WWI fell silent. This was repeated for WWII as well.

This day we honour and remember the sacrifices made for our freedom. The men and women who returned home injured, the lucky ones uninjured and the ones who never returned home, the fallen.

Those buried on foreign soil who made the ultimate sacrifice.

Please leave a message, memory or thought.

As I have said my dad was a veteran of WWII. He is always in my heart.

Which guns were firing on 10 November in 1945? Is that what you refer to? Germany was defeated around April, and the Japanese Empire surrendered in September, right? What am I forgetting?

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:28 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't have any memories to share. My grandpa died when I was 4, and I barely remember him. I've been told that he was there on D-Day but never talked about it.

It's kind of sad the state of things in this country and the world right now. We've generally known peace all of my life. Skirmishes here and there and these "eternal wars" we've got going on in the middle east, sure, but it's entirely possible for somebody in many places to just tune out of the news altogether and not even recognize these battles. That would have been impossible to do in the 40's, at a time long before 24 hour cable news and the internet and cell phones.

What do we do with this gift? We argue and fight. All the time.

Why do we suck so much?

How does a community of 7+ Billion people who are capable of so many great things never learn from any of their collective mistakes?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

They don't learn history. So they can repeat it.

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:07 PM

BRENDA


JSF, it is called poetic license. What I wrote sounded good to me. There is no need to pick it apart.

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
JSF, it is called poetic license. What I wrote sounded good to me. There is no need to pick it apart.

perfectly fair. I take it you imply my recall is correct.

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:21 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
JSF, it is called poetic license. What I wrote sounded good to me. There is no need to pick it apart.

perfectly fair. I take it you imply my recall is correct.



I posted my Remembrance Day post early and we all know the history behind the day.

JSF, your family members choose to put on that uniform. Be thankful that
they never saw combat.

My father did. He had friends killed. I knew someone else who also saw combat, saw a member of his unit shot up went over to help only to just pick up his friend's torso. He told me that story when I was a child. My dad would never discuss the war with me.

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