Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"

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THGRRI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:49 PM (P)

Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:57 PM (P)

Hey. If you're right, enjoy President Pence. Maybe the church will be indistinguishable from the state 4 years from now. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

EDITED TO ADD (10/28/2019):

Figured I should add T's new "Countdown Clock to Trump Going to Jail" thread here for hilarious posterity.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63338

It will be quite funny looking at both clocks still ticking away the seconds another 3 years from now.

THGRRI

Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. If you're right, enjoy President Pence. Maybe the church will be indistinguishable from the state 4 years from now. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That's assuming Pence is clean. That said, while his policies are a problem I have at this point no reason to question his patriotism.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:33 AM (P)

You won't have to worry about it. Impeachment isn't going to happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:05 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
My only question is: how much bigger will the crowds be at his impeachment than at his inauguration?

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THGRRI

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:21 AM (P)

Ukraine Lawmaker Who Aided Trump Associates Faces Treason

Prosecutors in Ukraine are investigating whether a member of Parliament committed treason by working with two associates of President Trump’s to promote a plan for settling Ukraine’s conflicts with Russia.

In a court filing on Tuesday, prosecutors accused the lawmaker, Andrii V. Artemenko, of conspiring with Russia to commit “subversive acts against Ukraine,” in particular by advancing a proposal that could “legitimize the temporary occupation” of the Crimean peninsula. Russia forcibly annexed the peninsula in 2014, a step that Ukraine, the United States and other governments have refused to recognize; Mr. Artemenko said his proposal would allow Ukraine to formally cede control of the territory to Russia, at least temporarily.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-lawmaker-who-aided-trump-a
ssociates-faces-treason/ar-AAnbrrG?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:45 AM (P)

Quote:
Mr. Artemenko, a little-known politician who has tried to brand himself as a Trump-style populist, has not been arrested or formally charged with a crime.

Get back to me when there is some actual news.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 1:50 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
My only question is: how much bigger will the crowds be at his impeachment than at his inauguration?

BIGGEST. AUDIENS. EVAR. Let me tell you, you wont believe it incredible believe me terrrific ratingz.

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SECOND

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 5:39 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Get back to me when there is some actual news.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

How about this old news? Trump’s tragic mistake was choosing a competent Vice President. The contrast between Pence and Trump is Trump's biggest problem.

Congressional Republicans can get everything they want from V.P. Mike Pence without any of the incompetence that comes with Trump. Bill Clinton came close to be removed from the White House over the Monica Lewinsky affair, but was only saved by Republicans being a minority: The perjury charge was defeated with 55 "not guilty" votes and 45 "guilty" votes. On the obstruction-of-justice article, the chamber was evenly split, 50-50. Well, Republicans aren't in the minority any more. And Pence is really appealing compared to Trump.

It does not matter what the trivial criminal charge is against Trump, every Democratic Senator would vote against him. Most Republican Senators would vote to remove Trump, too, if he screws up to the level of the Monica Lewinsky affair.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:19 PM (P)

Great point SECOND. I am completely confident that the house and senate republicans would much rather have Pence at the top. Given enough cover ( depending on what Trump does ), I think they would impeach him in a heart beat. Furthermore, I believe if they see a disaster coming, like a war or Trump being blackmailed by Putin, they themselves will be desperate to find a way to do it.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Get back to me when there is some actual news.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
How about this old news? Trump’s tragic mistake was choosing a competent Vice President. The contrast between Pence and Trump is Trump's biggest problem.

Congressional Republicans can get everything they want from V.P. Mike Pence without any of the incompetence that comes with Trump. Bill Clinton came close to be removed from the White House over the Monica Lewinsky affair, but was only saved by Republicans being a minority: The perjury charge was defeated with 55 "not guilty" votes and 45 "guilty" votes. On the obstruction-of-justice article, the chamber was evenly split, 50-50. Well, Republicans aren't in the minority any more. And Pence is really appealing compared to Trump.

It does not matter what the trivial criminal charge is against Trump, every Democratic Senator would vote against him. Most Republican Senators would vote to remove Trump, too, if he screws up to the level of the Monica Lewinsky affair.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:03 PM (P)

THGRRI posts yet another Commie Crazy editorial hit piece on Trump trying to link him with "Ukraine Lawmaker Who Aided Trump Associates Faces Treason "...

I point out that the story, half-way down, says that he has not been arrested or charged with anything and ask for him to get back to me when there is actual, yanno, news.....

Second comes in and says "how's my opinion for news"?

THGRRI likes that "news".

Yep. It must be Wednesday morning in the RWED.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:10 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Second comes in and says "how's my opinion for news"?

THGRRI likes that "news".

Yep. It must be Wednesday morning in the RWED.

Trump should have picked his V.P. from the people he has fired from the White House. If Congressional Republicans had to choose between either keeping Trump or elevating to the Presidency the Vice-President Michael T. Flynn, a famous doofus, Trump would be perfectly safe from being tossed out by Congress. But Trump goofed and picked a competent V.P. Mike Pence who would be dignified, unlike Trump, yet very able, unlike Trump, to perform the duties of a President. And as a bonus, unlike Trump, Mike Pence made his tax returns available. No skeletons in Pence's IRS closet. Trump can't say that about his closet.
www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:13 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
THGRRI posts yet another Commie Crazy editorial hit piece on Trump trying to link him with "Ukraine Lawmaker Who Aided Trump Associates Faces Treason "...

I point out that the story, half-way down, says that he has not been arrested or charged with anything and ask for him to get back to me when there is actual, yanno, news.....

Second comes in and says "how's my opinion for news"?

THGRRI likes that "news".

Yep. It must be Wednesday morning in the RWED.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Excuse me Jack but the story starts stating " Prosecutors in Ukraine are investigating whether a member of Parliament committed treason." Key word, investigating Jack.

I posted it because Trumps lawyer is being investigated for the same thing. He supposedly was the Ukrainian's contact here. Key word, supposedly Jack.

Key word as to why they are being investigated? Russia Jack

When you read articles Jack, try and understand what they are saying and why. As for whether or not this news pleased me you couldn't be more wrong. My president having these type contacts with Russia is very troubling to me. This has nothing to do with Trump except that he is my president.

And lets face it Jack, unless you like who is the president, you don't consider them your president.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:30 PM (P)

The title of your article says he's facing treason. Doesn't say "treason charges". It says facing treason, as if he's already guilty.

Sure, the very first sentence says some prosecutors are investigating, but the title of the article from a biased source is another headline meant to rile more anti-Trump people like you.

The words investigating as well as accused are used. It goes on, as I pointed out to say that no criminal charges have been filed and he has not been arrested. So no, he is not facing treason. He is not even facing treason charges.

He also said that this investigation is politically motivated. He also is not afraid of it and said he's not going anywhere and will meet with the investigators to explain his position.

At the very base of the story is the fact that this isn't a land grab, or at least an outright land grab. Since you obviously have a great deal of faith in Russia's ability to compromise other countries elections, I can see how you think that it is even though his proposal was to put this to a vote. Even then, this is a vote to lease the peninsula to Russia for 50-100 years. Lease being the key word.

This story was taking the art of making Russian ties to Trump to the extreme, and is based off of nothing when you actually read it. Read it again. There's nothing there. You can do better.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SOCKPUPPET

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:43 PM (P)

Trollbait!

Mmm. so tasty.

No, be a good little sockpuppet.

But it's so fun... we wants it... Must troll...

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Second comes in and says "how's my opinion for news"?

THGRRI likes that "news".

Yep. It must be Wednesday morning in the RWED.

Sumptin' else.

Come 'on, that was genuinely funny. Should be greeted with a touché

Not saying you're wrong, 'cause yer not. But why so serious all the time?

SECOND

Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:48 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

This story was taking the art of making Russian ties to Trump to the extreme, and is based off of nothing when you actually read it. Read it again. There's nothing there. You can do better.

All these Trump/Russia stories could be put to rest if only Trump would cooperate, but he won't. There are so many questions Trump won't answer, so if he won't help with the answers this will drag on for years.

The questions center on three big, but fundamentally unproven, allegations: that Trump is on the take from Russia, that he is somehow exposed to Russian blackmail material, that his campaign actively collaborated with the Russian government during the 2016 campaign, or some combination of the above.

The evidence for those explosive charges is thin.

What we have instead are a lot of small, unanswered questions. Questions about Flynn’s behavior and the circumstances of his firing. Questions about the behavior of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and the circumstances of his firing. Questions about enigmatic remarks made by longtime Trump associate and veteran political operative Roger Stone. Questions about an obscure American businessman named Carter Page who maybe — or maybe not — worked for some time with the Trump campaign.

But there are also longstanding questions about the opaque financing of the Trump Organization, and about why its founder and owner has been so reluctant to engage in normal levels of financial disclosure. And most of all, there are questions about Trump’s highly unorthodox attitudes toward Russia, its government, and its leader, Vladimir Putin.

Here, in convenient list form, are the 30 small questions and three big ones about Donald Trump and Russia:

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/20/14625788/trump-russia-putin-
manafort-page-stone

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:23 AM (P)

2nd,

No, they won't. Trump's enemies aren't attacking him because of Russia or because they have a point. They're doing it because they're not in power.

There's nothing wrong with being pro-Russia. US presidents have been absurdly pro-Germany and insanely pro-China, and pro-israel, pro-saudi. I don't have an issue with pro-russia. I worry about anti-mexico

SECOND

Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
2nd,

No, they won't. Trump's enemies aren't attacking him because of Russia or because they have a point. They're doing it because they're not in power.

It is not about them; it's about Trump.

Trump held a press conference to lash the media for its coverage of his presidency. It is worth establishing a basic fact about Trump: He has received mostly negative media coverage because he is running a chaotic, leaky, and ineffective administration. The press corps would breathe a great sigh of relief if they felt able to cover Trump more normally — an impulse you can see in the overwhelmingly positive coverage that Trump gets when he reads a clear speech off a teleprompter or names a qualified candidate like Gen. Jim Mattis to his Cabinet or Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster his new national security adviser.

Trump is a fuck-up and he needs to get more control of himself and his loud mouth. When he does, most of his problems go away. When he acts like a jack-ass, his problems multiply.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:48 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The title of your article says he's facing treason. Doesn't say "treason charges". It says facing treason, as if he's already guilty.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Shit Jack, they lay out good reasons as to why. Besides, the tile is meant to draw the reader in. It's not outrageous. I've watched you place your stamp of approval on outright lies here Jack. Over and over again. If its from the far right you accept it at face value; always Jack always. Don't bother me with stupid shit.

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THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:53 AM (P)

Read what SECOND posts again DREAMTROVE. It's right on the money. Too many here see only a far left conspiracy. Therefore they see nothing as being legit when it comes to criticisms of Trump. They can only be described as drones, not as free thinkers. Are you a drone DREAMTROVE?

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
2nd,

No, they won't. Trump's enemies aren't attacking him because of Russia or because they have a point. They're doing it because they're not in power.
It is not about them; it's about Trump.

Trump held a press conference to lash the media for its coverage of his presidency. It is worth establishing a basic fact about Trump: He has received mostly negative media coverage because he is running a chaotic, leaky, and ineffective administration. The press corps would breathe a great sigh of relief if they felt able to cover Trump more normally — an impulse you can see in the overwhelmingly positive coverage that Trump gets when he reads a clear speech off a teleprompter or names a qualified candidate like Gen. Jim Mattis to his Cabinet or Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster his new national security adviser.

Trump is a fuck-up and he needs to get more control of himself and his loud mouth. When he does, most of his problems go away. When he acts like a jack-ass, his problems multiply.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Don't bother me with stupid shit.

lol... That's exactly what I was already telling you. I was just using my Big Words.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Don't bother me with stupid shit.

lol... That's exactly what I was already telling you. I was just using my Big Words.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your opinion of yourself far exceeds your actual talents.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:04 AM (P)

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Trump: He has received mostly negative media coverage because he is running a chaotic, leaky, and ineffective administration.

Not drinking that. They were already the most negative they had been before he was even elected.

Enough operative. I'm not a Trump supporter, but no way am I going to dwell on this. Election over. Moving on. Go ahead, impeach him, let's have a civil war. Install the unaccountable deep state coup and have Chuck Schumer create an intelligence panel to control CIA, NSA and JSOC, and go to war, and watch him put Hillary in charge of this new shadow govt. Sure, let's have a military police state. These are great ideas. They work well for Kim Jong Un. They're doing okay for ISIS. Make it happen. Just let me move first.

My plan? run a better candidate in four years. Maybe start some sort of media group before then that doesn't insult the president so that it has some influence. But enough with the crazy and the Clintonista.

Edit,

Second. I've only been back a week and already I'm not reading THGRRI's posts, like, at all. This is what is happening to the left protests, it's what's happening to the left media. It's what will happen to everyone who keeps on in this vain. Complaining does not lead to a solution. It leads to you silencing yourself. Sure, there are complaints to be made, and will be, but who will ever hear those complaints in this din of negativity? Not Trump. Not me. No one, that's who. No one will hear it, because they will have tuned it out long ago, much like you, I and everyone not on the far right tuned out Rush Limbaugh, and everyone not on the far left tuned out Bill Maher.

People who have an audience only of people who agree with them have no advantage outside of the ability to sell corporate products, and that's what they do, whether it's koolaid or candidates.

THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:12 AM (P)

Big problem with your post DREAMTROVE. While I'll admit the press mostly dislikes Trump, reporting the truth is not considered a negative by those seeking the truth. And that's when those who are not start freaking out.

NO worries here if you don't respond to what I post. Everyone here gets to read what I post and make a determination of who's wrong. That satisfies me.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Trump: He has received mostly negative media coverage because he is running a chaotic, leaky, and ineffective administration.

Not drinking that. They were already the most negative they had been before he was even elected.

Enough operative. I'm not a Trump supporter, but no way am I going to dwell on this. Election over. Moving on. Go ahead, impeach him, let's have a civil war. Install the unaccountable deep state coup and have Chuck Schumer create an intelligence panel to control CIA, NSA and JSOC, and go to war, and watch him put Hillary in charge of this new shadow govt. Sure, let's have a military police state. These are great ideas. They work well for Kim Jong Un. They're doing okay for ISIS. Make it happen. Just let me move first.

My plan? run a better candidate in four years. Maybe start some sort of media group before then that doesn't insult the president so that it has some influence. But enough with the crazy and the Clintonista.

Edit,

Second. I've only been back a week and already I'm not reading THGRRI's posts, like, at all. This is what is happening to the left protests, it's what's happening to the left media. It's what will happen to everyone who keeps on in this vain. Complaining does not lead to a solution. It leads to you silencing yourself. Sure, there are complaints to be made, and will be, but who will ever hear those complaints in this din of negativity? Not Trump. Not me. No one, that's who. No one will hear it, because they will have tuned it out long ago, much like you, I and everyone not on the far right tuned out Rush Limbaugh, and everyone not on the far left tuned out Bill Maher.

People who have an audience only of people who agree with them have no advantage outside of the ability to sell corporate products, and that's what they do, whether it's koolaid or candidates.

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DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:28 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Big problem with your post DREAMTROVE.

Yeah, I read stuff that is addressed to me. I don't read people talking to hear themselves or collect followers who sound like campaign posters.

MSM already dishes out tons of it, and I don't read that either.

There's three positions THGRRI. Left, Right and Open-minded.

SECOND

Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:31 AM (P)

Ever heard the phrase “When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout”? I’m seeing more people all the time running in circles. They can’t move in a straight line toward a goal. It is as if they’ve got one shoe nailed to the ground. Life for those circling the drain is one frustration after another and they’re unaware of how silly they look, with only one leg propelling them. I see similar behavior from Trump. People close to him are aware of it, but not Trump. He feels frustration and anger that he is not getting what he wants. He expresses that on twitter and in unscripted speeches:

The key to keeping Trump’s Twitter habit under control, according to six former campaign officials, is to ensure that his personal media consumption includes a steady stream of praise. And when no such praise was to be found, staff would turn to friendly outlets to drum some up — and make sure it made its way to Trump’s desk....A former senior campaign official said Nunberg and his successor, former communications director Jason Miller, were particularly skilled at using alternative media like Breitbart, Washington Examiner, Fox News, Infowars and the Daily Caller to show Trump positive coverage.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/heres-primer-how-keep-donald-tr
ump-under-control

The people who run in circles want Trump to guide them straight. I don’t think he can do it, even from the White House. The argument that government competence is necessary for Trump to make things better is an argument made by people who have tried do good things in government without destroying institutions. Those people are deeply impressed by how difficult it is to improve the world through government. But they haven’t had the experience of just trying to destroy things or ratchet up tension. Their lived experience may not apply to the things Trump wants to do. Trump’s wants do not really require competence. Lucky for Trump. Next terror incident (we’re only into day 32 of Trump) he’ll do a Trump Smash. It’s like a Hulk Smash, but not as carefully planned as the Hulk’s. On that day I do hope Mike Pence is around to talk sense into Trump.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/22/14658062/donald-trump-illibe
ralism-losing

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

I'm not a Trump supporter, but no way am I going to dwell on this. Election over. Moving on. Go ahead, impeach him, let's have a civil war. Install the unaccountable deep state coup and have Chuck Schumer create an intelligence panel to control CIA, NSA and JSOC, and go to war, and watch him put Hillary in charge of this new shadow govt. Sure, let's have a military police state. These are great ideas. They work well for Kim Jong Un. They're doing okay for ISIS. Make it happen. Just let me move first.

My plan? run a better candidate in four years. Maybe start some sort of media group before then that doesn't insult the president so that it has some influence. But enough with the crazy and the Clintonista.

Edit,

Second. I've only been back a week and already I'm not reading THGRRI's posts, like, at all. This is what is happening to the left protests, it's what's happening to the left media. It's what will happen to everyone who keeps on in this vain. Complaining does not lead to a solution. It leads to you silencing yourself. Sure, there are complaints to be made, and will be, but who will ever hear those complaints in this din of negativity? Not Trump. Not me. No one, that's who. No one will hear it, because they will have tuned it out long ago, much like you, I and everyone not on the far right tuned out Rush Limbaugh, and everyone not on the far left tuned out Bill Maher.

People who have an audience only of people who agree with them have no advantage outside of the ability to sell corporate products, and that's what they do, whether it's koolaid or candidates.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where

THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Big problem with your post DREAMTROVE.

Yeah, I read stuff that is addressed to me. I don't read people talking to hear themselves or collect followers who sound like campaign posters.

MSM already dishes out tons of it, and I don't read that either.

There's three positions THGRRI. Left, Right and Open-minded.

And those who post honestly get a free ride from me. Those who don't, don't. Anyone who disregards all the crap that comes out of Trumps mouth along with his complete lack of understanding of what's going on in the world, i.e., who or our allies are who works against our interests, is not as you say, open-minded. I don't go tit for tat with Ideologies. Only with facts. Deal in facts and I will discuss your posts, not just point out that they are closed minded. Trump gets all the negative press he gets because he confused and thrives on Chaos. It's a self-inflicted wound.

SECOND nailed it and you missed it by a mile.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:10 AM (P)

lol. See what I mean DT.

THGRRI has already told us how he is completely non-partisan and he simply holds a monopoly on the truth.

I think I'm going to take back my defense of his character when Sigs called him a troll and start ignoring him like you do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. See what I mean DT.

THGRRI has already told us how he is completely non-partisan and he simply holds a monopoly on the truth.

I think I'm going to take back my defense of his character when Sigs called him a troll and start ignoring him like you do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nope Jack wrong again. What I said was you are not. Big difference and that's what's wrong with you; tunnel vision.

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SOCKPUPPET

Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:20 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Ever heard the phrase “When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout”? I’m seeing more people all the time running in circles. They can’t move in a straight line toward a goal. It is as if they’ve got one shoe nailed to the ground. Life for those circling the drain is one frustration after another and they’re unaware of how silly they look, with only one leg propelling them. I see similar behavior from Trump. People close to him are aware of it, but not Trump. He feels frustration and anger that he is not getting what he wants. He expresses that on twitter and in unscripted speeches:

The key to keeping Trump’s Twitter habit under control, according to six former campaign officials, is to ensure that his personal media consumption includes a steady stream of praise. And when no such praise was to be found, staff would turn to friendly outlets to drum some up — and make sure it made its way to Trump’s desk....A former senior campaign official said Nunberg and his successor, former communications director Jason Miller, were particularly skilled at using alternative media like Breitbart, Washington Examiner, Fox News, Infowars and the Daily Caller to show Trump positive coverage.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/heres-primer-how-keep-donald-tr
ump-under-control

The people who run in circles want Trump to guide them straight. I don’t think he can do it, even from the White House. The argument that government competence is necessary for Trump to make things better is an argument made by people who have tried do good things in government without destroying institutions. Those people are deeply impressed by how difficult it is to improve the world through government. But they haven’t had the experience of just trying to destroy things or ratchet up tension. Their lived experience may not apply to the things Trump wants to do. Trump’s wants do not really require competence. Lucky for Trump. Next terror incident (we’re only into day 32 of Trump) he’ll do a Trump Smash. It’s like a Hulk Smash, but not as carefully planned as the Hulk’s. On that day I do hope Mike Pence is around to talk sense into Trump.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/22/14658062/donald-trump-illibe
ralism-losing

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

I'm not a Trump supporter, but no way am I going to dwell on this. Election over. Moving on. Go ahead, impeach him, let's have a civil war. Install the unaccountable deep state coup and have Chuck Schumer create an intelligence panel to control CIA, NSA and JSOC, and go to war, and watch him put Hillary in charge of this new shadow govt. Sure, let's have a military police state. These are great ideas. They work well for Kim Jong Un. They're doing okay for ISIS. Make it happen. Just let me move first.

My plan? run a better candidate in four years. Maybe start some sort of media group before then that doesn't insult the president so that it has some influence. But enough with the crazy and the Clintonista.

Edit,

Second. I've only been back a week and already I'm not reading THGRRI's posts, like, at all. This is what is happening to the left protests, it's what's happening to the left media. It's what will happen to everyone who keeps on in this vain. Complaining does not lead to a solution. It leads to you silencing yourself. Sure, there are complaints to be made, and will be, but who will ever hear those complaints in this din of negativity? Not Trump. Not me. No one, that's who. No one will hear it, because they will have tuned it out long ago, much like you, I and everyone not on the far right tuned out Rush Limbaugh, and everyone not on the far left tuned out Bill Maher.

People who have an audience only of people who agree with them have no advantage outside of the ability to sell corporate products, and that's what they do, whether it's koolaid or candidates.

The

THGRRI

Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:06 PM (P)

Quote:
Sockpuppet

Okay, I'll bite. Trump is watching TV and all a-twitter. If so, then who's in the drivers seat?

Breitbart

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SECOND

Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:43 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SOCKPUPPET:

Second,

Okay, I'll bite. Trump is watching TV and all a-twitter. If so, then who's in the drivers seat?

Trump, obviously. The best analogy about Trump being in the driver's seat would be Trump is driving an 18 wheeler and he keeps running his big rig over the curb when he turns a corner. And don't ask Trump to drive his truck backwards. He does not understand that the steering wheel is turned right to get the trailer to go left. Trump is completely confused with how to steer the government, as he would be confused driving an 18 wheeler. Straight ahead is the only thing he can do.

And please don't ask Trump to read a highway map printed on paper. It would be incomprehensible to him. Hopefully the police will arrest him for speed violations.

The thing Trump would be really good at as a Trucker? Talking on citizen band radio!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 24, 2017 1:24 AM (P)

The conventional wisdom here is that it's a tug of war between Pence, Bannon, and Ivanka, unless you want the antisemitic redux, and then it's Israel, Breitbart and Kushner.

I think if Breitbart had that much power, Milo wouldn't have just gotten the ax. Ivanka has his ear, and Pence has everyone else's. Still, I suspect he trusts his daughter more. I think Bannon will get the propaganda end, to pull the strings and make the Donald say unimaginably stupid drivel, and Pence will make all the energy deals for industry at the expense of everyone, and Ivanka will end up in charge of everything else.

Unless there's a deep state coup.

Here's what to look for:

If control over JSOC, et al., is transferred away from Trump & Mattis, that's a coup.

THGRRI

Friday, February 24, 2017 2:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The conventional wisdom here is that it's a tug of war between Pence, Bannon, and Ivanka, unless you want the antisemitic redux, and then it's Israel, Breitbart and Kushner.

I think if Breitbart had that much power, Milo wouldn't have just gotten the ax. Ivanka has his ear, and Pence has everyone else's. Still, I suspect he trusts his daughter more. I think Bannon will get the propaganda end, to pull the strings and make the Donald say unimaginably stupid drivel, and Pence will make all the energy deals for industry at the expense of everyone, and Ivanka will end up in charge of everything else.

Unless there's a deep state coup.

Here's what to look for:

If control over JSOC, et al., is transferred away from Trump & Mattis, that's a coup.

There's no way to survive supporting a pedophile. It's the bad news story that keeps on giving. I don't think Milo's going reflects on Brannon's place of authority in the White House.

A deep state coup doesn't happen in America. They tried that with Clinton and his ratings amongst the populist went up. The American people don't like others unfairly taking down someone they voted for. If Trump goes he will have had to do something even the Republicans cannot defend him against. If power shifts amongst his advisors it will be because the structure as it is isn't working.

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 24, 2017 2:43 AM (P)

Funny thing is, They seeem up for it

JO753

Friday, February 24, 2017 8:25 AM (P)

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http://www.nooalf.com

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 24, 2017 7:56 PM (P)

Lol. And if you can't trust Wolf Blitzer, who can you trust?

Okay, bring back the Pirate News. I feel the credibility gap widening.

THGRRI

Friday, February 24, 2017 8:24 PM (P)

If someone thinks a picture of a few hundred or even a thousand protesters implies a good chance Milo will be redeemed in the eyes of the public, someone is kidding themselves. Every time he has an event where he speaks his detractors are going to chant pedophile. Besides, there's no story of who is protesting and why. Are you sure that's not a crowd at an anti Trump rally?

Cites please...

Also, Bill Maher is guilty of saying the same thing as Milo and is having to answer for that now. The difference is that it is very conceivable that Milo acted out himself with minors.

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 24, 2017 9:36 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
If someone thinks a picture of a few hundred or even a thousand protesters implies a good chance Milo will be redeemed in the eyes of the public, someone is kidding themselves. Every time he has an event where he speaks his detractors are going to chant pedophile. Besides, there's no story of who is protesting and why. Are you sure that's not a crowd at an anti Trump rally?

Cites please...

Also, Bill Maher is guilty of saying the same thing as Milo and is having to answer for that now. The difference is that it is very conceivable that Milo acted out himself with minors.

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It's actually the anti-Milo protest. I meant, look, millions of people want to overthrow democracy just because Trump won. Oh well, so much for the "they would never do that theory."

CPAC dug up the Maher footage to doom Milo, that's openly known, as is the Milo-Pence feud. That it splashes back and hit's Maher, that's life. Will it doom Milo? I doubt it.

Look back at my rant threads against Milo to see where I stand on that.

THGRRI

Friday, February 24, 2017 10:27 PM (P)

No way to derive any of what you say here from the picture. As for Milo, you won’t find were I criticized you for defending him. Only that I think his career is in more trouble than your post suggested. In the current news was the first I heard of Maher’s indiscretions. I have never liked him. His views are too extreme and he’s so smug about it.

As for Trump and people wanting him impeached. There are always those in both parties that make false claims about Presidents right out of the gate. That will never change. About Trump, I have always complained about too much outsourcing. The destruction of our rule of law with all the illegals. Not just by coming here but in ways never discussed. What it did and does to lower wages in this country. There are also other things Trump touched on I liked hearing. That’s the problem with a presidential candidate and now President spreading a populist message. But in this country especially it means trouble again for our rule of law. As well as the erosion of our moral base. Then there is the fact that the guy is classless.

Trump has been shown to be a corrupt business man who demeans all of our democrat institutions. The media, judicial, house and senate, you name it. Along with that, he picked senseless fights with our allies and undermined NATO. All of which is what, Putin’s agenda.

Trump has shown himself to be clueless when it comes to the current structure of the world order. Or how to play in it to our advantage. Now, when you add that to the fact that many including myself believe he will break the law sooner rather than later, impeachment seems plausible to us.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
If someone thinks a picture of a few hundred or even a thousand protesters implies a good chance Milo will be redeemed in the eyes of the public, someone is kidding themselves. Every time he has an event where he speaks his detractors are going to chant pedophile. Besides, there's no story of who is protesting and why. Are you sure that's not a crowd at an anti Trump rally?

Cites please...

Also, Bill Maher is guilty of saying the same thing as Milo and is having to answer for that now. The difference is that it is very conceivable that Milo acted out himself with minors.

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It's actually the anti-Milo protest. I meant, look, millions of people want to overthrow democracy just because Trump won. Oh well, so much for the "they would never do that theory."

CPAC dug up the Maher footage to doom Milo, that's openly known, as is the Milo-Pence feud. That it splashes back and hit's Maher, that's life. Will it doom Milo? I doubt it.

Look back at my rant threads against Milo to see where I stand on that.

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SECOND

Friday, February 24, 2017 11:39 PM (P)

Today, Trump gave a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference that only deepened the questions around Trump and Russia.

He denounced the Washington Post reporting that led to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s firing, for example, as having been based on fake sources. But if the sources were fake, then why did he fire Flynn?

Then he specifically denounced the whole idea of stories based on anonymous sources. But just hours ago, the Trump White House held an anonymous briefing with senior White House officials to deny reports that Chief of Staff Reince Priebus had made improper contact with the FBI regarding the investigation of Trump and Russia.
www.vox.com/2017/2/24/14725950/russian-flag-cpac

Questions about what exactly is going on here won’t stop until the White House allows a thorough and independent investigation.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/20/14625788/trump-russia-putin-
manafort-page-stone

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:20 PM (P)

Nope... Vox isn't News either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:49 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope... Vox isn't News either.

One way to stop Trump from rewriting his true personal history would be to get it on paper as it happens and then lock the paper in a place where Trump can't get to it. That is why Trump is against newspapers. Or the news in general. Instead of news, Trump loves propaganda he can rewrite on a daily basis. He really hates his actual past, doesn't he? He can't stop talking about it because the way it was written down on paper by the news is different than the way he claims it to be now and in the future. Typical super salesmen continuously alters history until they have a version that will help them close the sale. It is a trick that only works on people that are below average in memory -- which is half the people you know, including yourself, 6ix. Salesmen who want to get rich don't waste time trying to sell to every person in the country, just the easiest half.

Because newspapers are in the memory business, expect newsstands to be stocked with some grim and melancholy covers. Because Trump is selling amnestia, expect him to attack the newspapers.

Here’s a selection:
https://qz.com/902802/magazine-covers-about-donald-trump-are-getting-d
ark-businessweek-the-new-yorker-the-economist-der-spiegel-time-mother-jones-the-atlantic/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:10 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:

It's not unreasonable to think if he continues on this path it will get even worse. It's early - but I believe he will hang himself eventually. I think it's up to how much the traditional conservatives hate him.

53% of Americans agreed Congress should investigate contact between Russia and President Donald Trump's inner circle believed to have happened before the election.

The Republican Congressional majority does NOT want to investigate. They think that if they stall long enough Americans will forget about Trump. But Trump keeps unwisely reminding Americans why they should not forget.

www.businessinsider.com/poll-trump-russia-congress-investigation-2017-
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:23 PM (P)

Trump would not be US president without the votes of many, including Obamacare enrollees and immigrants, who are likely to find themselves worse off because of his policies. To some Democrat supporters, this widespread voting against self-interests can seem impossible to understand. It makes perfect sense to Molly Crockett, a neuroscientist and experimental psychologist at Oxford University.

Crockett studies the psychology and has found that, rather than accept what they see as an unfair deal, people will often choose to punish others—even at a personal cost to themselves. This desire to punish, she believes, can motivate those who feel they’re getting a bad deal to vote against the political establishment, regardless of whether the alternative is truly a better option.

A classic way of studying the human desire to punish is through lab variations of the “ultimatum game.” In this set-up, one player is given money and has the option of splitting it with a second player. That second player can accept the portion of money offered or reject it. If they reject it, neither player gets a penny.

This experiment has been studied for close to 40 years and researchers have found that if the first player offers the second less than 30% of the total sum, most second players will see that as an unfair deal and reject it. They’ll forgo all money themselves in order to punish the first player.

Crockett sees the popular support for Trump and Brexit as real-world examples of the punishing behavior she observes in the lab.

https://qz.com/916680

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 25, 2017 7:12 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:

Millions of people don't want to overthrow democracy. They want Trump impeached. I believe that is part of democracy. He was not a popular vote election winner.

Unfortunately for them, he is. Because Wikileaks. Smartmatic. Sanders. Venezuela. Chavez. China. Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. Soros.

Use the google. That's far too much information to ask someone source just because some reader doesn't know. Everyone knows how to use the internet.

Because of cheating Bernie, she became our candidate, tried to cheat Trump, did cheat, but lost. We lost that election 59:41, because we had a traitor as a candidate.

If people love democracy, why weren't they up in arms over Sanders' defeat? It was a known fraud long before the election.

Not, mind you, that I love Sanders. Look at my years on the board decrying the evils of socialism, National Socialism, Soviet Socialism, Maoist Socialism, and all of their little spinoffs. In like 100 threads.

But I voted for him anyway, because I think he told the truth.

2nd, 6,

Ivanka is married to a Russian. That's all the connection you need. Okay, he's a pro-Russian president, like GHW Bush, FDR, and most of the people before him.

THGRRI

Saturday, February 25, 2017 7:21 PM (P)

OK too much to unravel there. Some makes no sense, some is untrue and some is. And people did raise a stink about what happened to Sanders. Many decided not to vote and stayed home. I heard it discussed in the press all the time.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by G:

Millions of people don't want to overthrow democracy. They want Trump impeached. I believe that is part of democracy. He was not a popular vote election winner.

Unfortunately for them, he is. Because Wikileaks. Smartmatic. Sanders. Venezuela. Chavez. China. Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. Soros.

Use the google. That's far too much information to ask someone source just because some reader doesn't know. Everyone knows how to use the internet.

Because of cheating Bernie, she became our candidate, tried to cheat Trump, did cheat, but lost. We lost that election 59:41, because we had a traitor as a candidate.

If people love democracy, why weren't they up in arms over Sanders' defeat? It was a known fraud long before the election.

Not, mind you, that I love Sanders. Look at my years on the board decrying the evils of socialism, National Socialism, Soviet Socialism, Maoist Socialism, and all of their little spinoffs. In like 100 threads.

But I voted for him anyway, because I think he told the truth.

2nd, 6,

Ivanka is married to a Russian. That's all the connection you need. Okay, he's a pro-Russian president, like GHW Bush, FDR, and most of the people before him.

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 25, 2017 8:03 PM (P)

2nd,

He made it there without my vote.
There's a simpler answer: we had a terrible candidate.

Si Shen, ??

A protest would have been more to the point. Karmically, it cost us the election. Not the fact that I didn't vote for HRC, because that would have been a disaster. But why even protest so you can get HRC? I didn't vote for Trump, but even I can see that he's closer to Sanders than Clinton is. But we can do better. And should. Which means try harder, and don't let someone steal your nomination, and don't for the love of God, blame Russia for what's clearly our own damned fault.

Also, nice way to Snopes my post "not true," "partly true." Ya pick that one up from Trump in the debates?

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Whoa. Too much. Makes no sense. Wrong. Partially wrong. Totally wrong. Ya fired!
People rose a stink about Sanders. It was yuge! I heard it. Second heard it.
Discussed all over the press. All the time. @failing NYT

There, fixed that for ya

THGRRI

Saturday, February 25, 2017 8:18 PM (P)

I see you too think it is OK to quote something after changing the content, and therefor its context, very sad. What I meant by wrong was your input about Burnie, and I stated as much. There was a big stink about what the DNC did to him, and still is. That's only a difference of opinion.

Second, I voted for Hilary because and only because, Trump was a nightmare.

And lastly, Some of your post, especially the first part, was as though you were speaking to a post gone by and not what you quoted. Sort of like posting a picture after what's posted above that does nothing but confuse.

You take offense way to easily and it shows in the way you responded to me.

The Reaper yes. I saw what was going on in Real World Thread and was pushed to be very clear. Truth will be met with truth, and that I would respond to trolls harshly. That's because with my very first post came the attacks and his friends followed suite.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
2nd,

He made it there without my vote.
There's a simpler answer: we had a terrible candidate.

Si Shen, ??

A protest would have been more to the point. Karmically, it cost us the election. Not the fact that I didn't vote for HRC, because that would have been a disaster. But why even protest so you can get HRC? I didn't vote for Trump, but even I can see that he's closer to Sanders than Clinton is. But we can do better. And should. Which means try harder, and don't let someone steal your nomination, and don't for the love of God, blame Russia for what's clearly our own damned fault.

Also, nice way to Snopes my post "not true," "partly true." Ya pick that one up from Trump in the debates?

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Whoa. Too much. Makes no sense. Wrong. Partially wrong. Totally wrong. Ya fired!
People rose a stink about Sanders. It was yuge! I heard it. Second heard it.
Discussed all over the press. All the time. @failing NYT

There, fixed that for ya

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:14 PM (P)

Seriously, this:

Quote:
THGRRI BROWNCOAT SINCE: 2014

We welcome new fans. Yay, hooray, and come on in.

That said, don't come in and tell us we're doing it wrong.

I know, a lot of what is done here is kind of trollish. I don't call you thuggery, I don't know what those letters stand for. If it's a reference to a firefly phrase, neither i nor anyone else here has recognized it. I assumed it was something religious, but still don't get it and I read the bible twice through, cover to cover. (Jew here, we do read the new testament as well.) I know what Si Shen was, so I figured it was a Bleach reference rather than an actual name.

That said, there are a large number of time honored traditions here, and this one is called "fixed that for ya" and yes, you have seen it. It's been used half a dozed times in the last week alone. I suspect Frem started it, but now it's here, like a meme.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Bernie

Which is other one I tend to avoid, quoting the misspelling to pretend my opponent is dumb because they made a typo.

That said, it's not what I said. I said there weren't huge protests. There are huge protests because Soros organized them, just like he did with occupy wall street. And Sig is right, he's a fucking nazi.

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Second, I voted for Hilary because and only because, Trump was a nightmare.

boldface removed. I don't know when Haken put that in, he must have a different display than my mac. I like the color scheme a lot. Almost as much as the first version site, all of which shows up fine for me.

Okay, Trump is a Trump. in many ways, sure, environmentally? okay. I mean, there are a lot of things about the GOP I don't care for which makes me not a republican. Trump, specifically? His biggest problem for me is he's too close to Clinton.

And that is how this election went, the neverTrump vs neverClinton. Not a whole lot of people voted because they liked the candidate. We lost because we had the worse candidate. That meant a lower % of democrats came up to support her than % of repuclicans that came out to support him, and that's all that ever happens, vote for the candidate, or stay home/vote third party, as i did. I voted for Stein in the general (and no, I didn't vote for either of them because they were jewish.)

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And lastly, Some of your post, especially the first part, was as though you were speaking to a post gone by and not what you quoted. Sort of like posting a picture after what's posted above that does nothing but confuse.

I thought the inference was obvious to everyone. Prepare yourself for this. People here, many not here at the moment, but some are, tend to be very sophisticated politically, and a subtle reference is enough. In the case of the pic, everyone knew the anti-trump protest story. millions of people protesting since election day on the grounds of "we don't like Trump." Yep, that's right, and you didn't vote for him. But not just rural rednecks. A million african american crossed the line in cities like detroit and philadephia because trump said he would repatriate the factories. He didn't just say it on a platform online, he went to their neighborhoods and campaigned on it. Hillary skipped those stops, figuring it was in the bag. That's arrogance, and it's how to lose.

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You take offense way to easily and it shows in the way you responded to me.

Lol. You don't know me. The other disadvantage, and it's unfortunate, is that this place comes with a lot of history. It can be viewed in the archive.

So what degree of sway something has with any of us is going to be dependent on who says it to some degree, that's unavoidable. So, no, it's not offense, it's time management. I'm not going to spend all that much time going through posts and the links attached that I don't expect to give much out of besides op

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, February 26, 2017 1:31 AM (P)

I don't even know what you guys are talking about, but I read the whole thing. Don't know what it is DT, but you certainly have a way with words.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Sunday, February 26, 2017 5:35 AM (P)

I’ll try and keep this civil because we just started conversing and it would be great to get along. You presume I should assign some sort of position of authority to you based on your time here. That isn’t going to happen. You can expect me to be respectful until or if I come to believe you don’t deserve respect. I say that because I have found many here don’t.

You have been gone for a while and are presuming these are the same people you knew in the past. I believe they aren’t. Someone just yesterday criticized SIG claiming she couldn’t believe the garbage she was now posting. I have been dealing with them for the past few years and have a pretty good idea of what they are about. If you don’t mind, I’ll deal with those who troll here in my own fashion.

You can continue to change what I said when quoting me. I can’t stop that. To me though it’s a sign of disrespect. Especially since we have trolls here that do that with most of what they claim to be factual. Also, it confuses what anyone who comes to the discussion late believes was said. So to me, those who do this have not thought it through or they've become frustrated. Again, it changes something written objectively to being false and subjective. At the very least it’s dishonest. Expect me to respond to that because I want readers who follow to know that is not what I said.

I see the best of the best here misspell constantly. I don’t point it out when others do it because for one, it’s petty. Secondly, I can make a valid point in return so I don’t need to deflect to change the point of interest. Unless you are going to use word and edit everything you post like a term paper, I suggest you don’t throw stones.

I am talking about people being upset with the way Bernie was treated. I agree with that sentiment and thought you claimed it was not talked about enough. I thought it was. I don’t know why we always seem confused on this. Care to elaborate further?

As for SIG. She has been trolling here on behalf of Russia either because she believes it, or just for the kick of trolling. Either way she is constantly putting America down and supporting all Putin’s talking points. Her opinions on everything else are all over the map and her posts have mostly been from bullshit sources.

Check out these two links to gain insight into just how anti-American and pro Russia she and 1kiki are.

Russia suspended from 2016 Olympics? http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60145

Russia Invades Ukraine http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58499

SIG and 1kiki have been trolling since I got here. Many here who you converse with regularly are trolls. Hate for the left is all they are about. They post the worst of the worst of the lies out there. As I have said here recently, it’s a last man standing mentality. That is a troll.

You talk about Trump. I will post a response to that later.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Seriously, this:
Quote:
THGRRI BROWNCOAT SINCE: 2014

We welcome new fans. Yay, hooray, and come on in.

That said, don't come in and tell us we're doing it wrong.

I know, a lot of what is done here is kind of trollish. I don't call you thuggery, I don't know what those letters stand for. If it's a reference to a firefly phrase, neither i nor anyone else here has recognized it. I assumed it was something religious, but still don't get it and I read the bible twice through, cover to cover. (Jew here, we do read the new testament as well.) I know what Si Shen was, so I figured it was a Bleach reference rather than an actual name.

That said, there are a large number of time honored traditions here, and this one is called "fixed that for ya" and yes, you have seen it. It's been used half a dozed times in the last week alone. I suspect Frem started it, but now it's here, like a meme.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Bernie

Which is other one I tend to avoid, quoting the misspelling to pretend my opponent is dumb becaus

THGRRI

Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:53 AM (P)

Nixon’s former attorney sees ‘echoes of Watergate’ in President Trump’s first month

In 1973, attorney John Dean sat before the Senate Watergate Committee and recounted the grimy details of the scandal that brought Richard Nixon's presidency to a premature end.

Dean had pored over 600 hours of secretly recorded White House tapes and admitted he had been involved in strategic conversations about illegal activity. During the final months of Nixon's presidency, Dean testified against the commander in chief — words that helped end a presidency and landed Dean in prison.

Now, 44 years later, the man who experienced presidential scandal up close says he has a case of deja vu.

Dean said in an interview aired Friday that President Trump's first month in office — with its anti-media tirades and efforts to use intelligence agencies for political purposes — has “echoes of Watergate.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nixon%e2%80%99s-former-attorney
-sees-%e2%80%98echoes-of-watergate%e2%80%99-in-president-trump%e2%80%99s-first-month/ar-AAnoNiH?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, February 26, 2017 8:44 AM (P)

At this point, part of me almost wants Trump to be ousted so Mike Pence can get into office, just to see what happens next.

Maybe we can just start making it a thing and keep impeaching person after person until we have some random republican school teacher who never wanted the job in office only because they were next down on the list? Then the Huffington Post can get straight to work on ruining their lives.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Sunday, February 26, 2017 9:22 PM (P)

SOCKPUPPET; you posted a rather lengthy communication to me to which I replied. So I have to admit to being surprised you haven't commented on my response.

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DREAMTROVE

Monday, February 27, 2017 1:15 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
SOCKPUPPET; you posted a rather lengthy communication to me to which I replied. So I have to admit to being surprised you haven't commented on my response.

SOCKPUPPET or sockpuppet?

I posted something to you about sockpuppets, fake user accounts, there were a couple comments about them from various people. I know, it's confusing.

If it's green, i said it, except for some rare instances where someone is quoting me, using a tagline, or i forget my own tags.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I’ll try and keep this civil

Orwell would say "dont' say that, just try to keep it civil"

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You presume I should assign some sort of position of authority to you based on your time here.

Nah, I don't care. My point was if you missed something, there's an archive.
You missed stuff, sure, it's in the archive. For instance, sockpuppets. Many things. My reference was primarily that you had been targeted, as had I, in 2005, initially, for being a sockpuppet.

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You have been gone for a while and are presuming these are the same people you knew in the past. I believe they aren’t. Someone just yesterday criticized SIG claiming she couldn’t believe the garbage she was now posting.

They're overwhelmingly the same people. Sig had calmed down a lot, as has Pirate news. We're all older now, and we're more civil.

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You can continue to change what I said when quoting me. I can’t stop that.

I was also referencing that you're not 100% paying attention. In just a week, there have been half a dozen instances of "fixed that for ya" posted, and so I can't believe the practice just disappeared for three years.

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To me though it’s a sign of disrespect.

RWED ain't gonna change for you. In fact, I think fixed that for ya is an RWED meme that deserves to go viral and conquer the web.

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Especially since we have trolls here that do that with most of what they claim to be factual.

I respectfully disagree with both assertions.

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Expect me to respond to that because I want readers who follow to know that is not what I said.

Lighten up.

In general, if someone needs tender care when talking to, I avoid them. Learn to roll with the punches.

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I see the best of the best here misspell constantly.

It's petty, unless it's TheSpellingFairy(tm). TheSpellingFairy(tm) is an open sockpuppet, like SOCKPUPPET, ie, an account whose login details are known to several users. It's hard to be certain who is posting, but those are both well defined characters. Like Shadowfly. Or TheRightStuff. It's not quite the same as when someone is using a sockpuppet to shadow their own position, bully or win and argument. It's been suggested on several threads by several users that RiverLove is a sockpuppet character, I doubt it, but if so, she's well done.

Wait around long enough and virtually everyone will be accused of being a sockpuppet.

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I am talking about people being upset with the way Bernie was treated. I agree with that sentiment and thought you claimed it was not talked about enough. I thought it was. I don’t know why we always seem confused on this. Care to elaborate further?

Yeah, the corporate media was all about Hillary even when Bernie was running. But what I said specifically is there were not massive protests with millions of people marching when wikileaks proved the point that the primary was essentially stolen. It is one of the major reasons we lost, if you can't believe in the primary process, then HRC isn't a legit candidate. I'm not going to vote for her anyway, but I know a lot of people who would have if she was a legit candidate, and plenty who would have if she'd stuck to the Bernie platform points she'd agreed to. Instead, she abandoned them, struck them from the platform at the convention and Trump picked them up an

THGRRI

Monday, February 27, 2017 10:01 AM (P)

This trumpeter of nothingness, employed
To keep our reason dull and null and void.

This man of wind and froth and flux will sell
The wares of any who reward him well.

Praising whatever he is paid to praise,
He hunts for ever-newer, smarter ways
To make the gilt seen gold; the shoddy, silk;
To cheat us legally; to bluff and bilk
By methods which no jury can prevent
Because the law's not broken, only bent.

This mind for hire, this mental prostitute
Can tell the half-lie hardest to refute;
Knows how to hide an inconvenient fact
And when to leave a doubtful claim unbacked;
Manipulates the truth but not too much,
And if his patter needs the Human Touch,
Skillfully artless, artlessly naive,
Wears his convenient heart upon his sleeve.

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
SOCKPUPPET; you posted a rather lengthy communication to me to which I replied. So I have to admit to being surprised you haven't commented on my response.

SOCKPUPPET or sockpuppet?

I posted something to you about sockpuppets, fake user accounts, there were a couple comments about them from various people. I know, it's confusing.

If it's green, i said it, except for some rare instances where someone is quoting me, using a tagline, or i forget my own tags.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I’ll try and keep this civil

Orwell would say "dont' say that, just try to keep it civil"

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You presume I should assign some sort of position of authority to you based on your time here.

Nah, I don't care. My point was if you missed something, there's an archive.
You missed stuff, sure, it's in the archive. For instance, sockpuppets. Many things. My reference was primarily that you had been targeted, as had I, in 2005, initially, for being a sockpuppet.
Quote:
You have been gone for a while and are presuming these are the same people you knew in the past. I believe they aren’t. Someone just yesterday criticized SIG claiming she couldn’t believe the garbage she was now posting.

They're overwhelmingly the same people. Sig had calmed down a lot, as has Pirate news. We're all older now, and we're more civil.
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You can continue to change what I said when quoting me. I can’t stop that.

I was also referencing that you're not 100% paying attention. In just a week, there have been half a dozen instances of "fixed that for ya" posted, and so I can't believe the practice just disappeared for three years.

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To me though it’s a sign of disrespect.

RWED ain't gonna change for you. In fact, I think fixed that for ya is an RWED meme that deserves to go viral and conquer the web.

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Especially since we have trolls here that do that with most of what they claim to be factual.

I respectfully disagree with both assertions.

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Expect me to respond to that because I want readers who follow to know that is not what I said.

Lighten up.

In general, if someone needs tender care when talking to, I avoid them. Learn to roll with the punches.

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I see the best of the best here misspell constantly.

It's petty, unless it's TheSpellingFairy(tm). TheSpellingFairy(tm) is an open sockpuppet, like SOCKPUPPET, ie, an account whose login details are known to several users. It's hard to be certain who is posting, but those are both well defined characters. Like Shadowfly. Or TheRightStuff. It's not quite the same as when someone is using a sockpuppet to shadow their own position, bully or win and argument. It's been suggested on several threads by several users that RiverLove is a sockpuppet character, I doubt it, but if so, she's well done.

Wait around long enough and virtually everyone will be accused of being a sockpuppet.
Quote:

I am talking about people being upset with the way Bernie was treated. I agree with that sentiment and thought you claimed it was not

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 27, 2017 12:09 PM (P)

Fe Fi Fo Fum
I smell pretentious prattle of a snowflake, dumb

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JO753

Monday, February 27, 2017 2:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
This trumpeter of nothingness, employed
To keep our reason dull and null and void.

This man of wind and froth and flux will sell
The wares of any who reward him well.

Praising whatever he is paid to praise,
He hunts for ever-newer, smarter ways
To make the gilt seen gold; the shoddy, silk;
To cheat us legally; to bluff and bilk
By methods which no jury can prevent
Because the law's not broken, only bent.

This mind for hire, this mental prostitute
Can tell the half-lie hardest to refute;
Knows how to hide an inconvenient fact
And when to leave a doubtful claim unbacked;
Manipulates the truth but not too much,
And if his patter needs the Human Touch,
Skillfully artless, artlessly naive,
Wears his convenient heart upon his sleeve.

Thats very good. Did you create it?

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

SOCKPUPPET

Monday, February 27, 2017 6:26 PM (P)

Nah, it's pasta. Pulled a Kellyanne Conway there.

THGRRI

Monday, February 27, 2017 7:58 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
This trumpeter of nothingness, employed
To keep our reason dull and null and void.

This man of wind and froth and flux will sell
The wares of any who reward him well.

Praising whatever he is paid to praise,
He hunts for ever-newer, smarter ways
To make the gilt seen gold; the shoddy, silk;
To cheat us legally; to bluff and bilk
By methods which no jury can prevent
Because the law's not broken, only bent.

This mind for hire, this mental prostitute
Can tell the half-lie hardest to refute;
Knows how to hide an inconvenient fact
And when to leave a doubtful claim unbacked;
Manipulates the truth but not too much,
And if his patter needs the Human Touch,
Skillfully artless, artlessly naive,
Wears his convenient heart upon his sleeve.

Thats very good. Did you create it?

http://www.nooalf.com

No, I went looking for a poem I thought fit the poster. This is the pattern I see exposed by the posters posts.

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THGRRI

Monday, February 27, 2017 8:19 PM (P)

THGRRI

Monday, February 27, 2017 8:21 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SOCKPUPPET:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I be trollin...

Thats very good. Did you create it?

Nah, it's pasta.

So dreamtrove, That's nothing I ever said. Must be you created it.

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dreamtrove

"I posted something to you about sockpuppets, fake user accounts, there were a couple comments about them from various people. I know, it's confusing.

If it's green, i said it, except for some rare instances where someone is quoting me, using a tagline, or i forget my own tags."

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THGRRI

Monday, February 27, 2017 8:37 PM (P)

Second said Trumps administration was in Chaos. Trumps own people are saying that. Dreamtrove you said you ain't drinking that. Second and I were right. Trump says the press is spreading fake news. The news they are spreading they are getting from Trumps own people. And when they do wish to leak to the press, they contact the news agencies some here say are fake, and not the ones our friends here quote from. Many reporters are suggesting the leaks are coming from the top as well as across the entire administration.

Sean Spicer targets own staff in leak crackdown

Upon entering Spicer’s office for what one person briefed on the gathering described as “an emergency meeting,” staffers were told to dump their phones on a table for a “phone check," to prove they had nothing to hide.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/sean-spicer-targets-own-staff-in
-leak-crackdown-235413

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Big problem with your post DREAMTROVE.

Yeah, I read stuff that is addressed to me. I don't read people talking to hear themselves or collect followers who sound like campaign posters.

MSM already dishes out tons of it, and I don't read that either.

There's three positions THGRRI. Left, Right and Open-minded.

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THGRRI

Monday, February 27, 2017 9:25 PM (P)

Yep G, listening to Fox news and dismissing the rest as fake is a major problem. True too, when it comes to his staff they do rubber stamp what he says. Then they leak. Yes, he is a conspiracy theorist, which means he believes in alleyway cloak and dagger facts rather than mainstream. That is a big problem.

The many lies he says coupled with his cloak and dagger facts paint a picture of a troubled man. Even if he isn’t anti-Semitic or bigoted, by taking the route of the populist he has had to embrace those who are. He also says he represents America and does not answer too, or is responsible for, the rest of the world. This shows he doesn’t know or understand history, or America’s place in the world.

These things, other things about Trump you discuss, and the many more problems we have witnessed but have not discussed here, allow sober thinkers to see the danger. I have no respect for those who chose to ignore these things and defend Trump or minimize the threat he poses. And while I have a problem with the press at times, I have absolutely no respect for the mental prowess of those who call it fake.

If you like some of what Trump wants to do say so. But to deny Trump the problem, exposes your ignorance and or dishonesty.

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Second said Trumps administration was in Chaos. Trumps own people are saying that. Dreamtrove you said you ain't drinking that. Second and I were right. Trump says the press is spreading fake news. The news they are spreading they are getting from Trumps own people. And when they do wish to leak to the press, they contact the news agencies some here say are fake, and not the ones our friends here quote from. And many reporters are suggesting the leaks are coming from the top as well as across the entire administration.

Sean Spicer targets own staff in leak crackdown

Upon entering Spicer’s office for what one person briefed on the gathering described as “an emergency meeting,” staffers were told to dump their phones on a table for a “phone check," to prove they had nothing to hide.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/sean-spicer-targets-own-staff-in
-leak-crackdown-235413

The guy listens to Fox news and gets ideas from infowars.com, and tries to exclude anyone that isn't a rubber stamp or a yes person, whether in his administration or in the news. He sees conspiracies everywhere. The "I had more people at my inauguration!" was a sign. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some users here are attracted to him. "He's so not main stream." I find that to be a semi-conscience choice people make to separate themselves from "the great unwashed" - it helps makes them feel superior. I hate that kind of egoism. One that is based on vanity or a lie one tells oneself or both.

Passive Aggressive Authoritarianism - a new phrase I have just coined. Keep it in mind.

Meanwhile, thanks for keeping the focus on Trump T. I see attempted misdirections and dodges being made. "Dems Dems Dems."

Trump/The WH has been trying to influence the FBI and committee chairs who are suppose to be investigating his ties with Russia. The committee chairs have been encouraged by the WH to call reporters and tell them there's nothing going on here. "I have some fake news for ya - no smoking gun." Sounds like something Nixon did during Watergate. How'd that work out? Keep it up Trumpie!

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DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:43 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Yep G
Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Second said Trumps administration was in Chaos. Trumps own people are saying that. Dreamtrove you said you ain't drinking that. Second and I were right.

I've said "Not drinking that" a lot. I don't think I was saying that to chaos, not that I agree with the chaos idea, it's just that i think this is by design. It's just I don't think that constitutes koolaid. Pizzagate does. ref me to second's post?

Trump? Not drinking the hate koolaid yet. Not at all convinced. I think this post is at war with your other post on trump appointing nay-men. I actually think the other post is correct. I think it's a clever strategy for weaseling out of campaign promises. Doesn't mean I completely support it, it's not honest, but otoh a lot of those promises were made to lobbies and not voters. Expect me to applaud it when it's his immigration policy he's negating, and knock it when it's something i liked.

THGRRI

Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:05 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Yep G
Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Second said Trumps administration was in Chaos. Trumps own people are saying that. Dreamtrove you said you ain't drinking that. Second and I were right.

I've said "Not drinking that" a lot. I don't think I was saying that to chaos, not that I agree with the chaos idea, it's just that i think this is by design. It's just I don't think that constitutes koolaid. Pizzagate does. ref me to second's post?

Trump? Not drinking the hate koolaid yet. Not at all convinced. I think this post is at war with your other post on trump appointing nay-men. I actually think the other post is correct. I think it's a clever strategy for weaseling out of campaign promises. Doesn't mean I completely support it, it's not honest, but otoh a lot of those promises were made to lobbies and not voters. Expect me to applaud it when it's his immigration policy he's negating, and knock it when it's something i liked.

It's not about hate. It's about the facts as they are known. Facts for some are a hard pill to swallow. I could understand you not knowing the facts if you're not political and following all the news outlets. If you're trying to follow what's going on by what's posted here, well, good luck.

P.S. G says you are a great person. What G thinks carries a lot of weight with me.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:47 AM (P)

My nose wasn't entirely wrong, but I figured I'd sit this one out and see how it played.

I thought that poem was T's cute little way of calling you a sockpuppet without actually saying it DT. It turns out that T's actually saying that SOCKPUPPET is you're sockpuppet.

Other than the fact that you both started posting around here within a few weeks of each other and we rarely see any posts from the same 7 or 8 individuals, I have no idea where he bases this opinion from. I'm sure there's plenty of room in that super inflated ego for a Sherlock Holmes persona we haven't seen yet.

Hey, if you're right T, I tip my figurative hat to ya. We all know how you love going back into RWED history and digging up things said in the past. Why don't you get to work on that and make your case?

P.S. Do let me know when it's not too early to say I told you so DT

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:58 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My nose wasn't entirely wrong, but I figured I'd sit this one out and see how it played.

I thought that poem was T's cute little way of calling you a sockpuppet without actually saying it DT. It turns out that T's actually saying that SOCKPUPPET is you're sockpuppet.

Other than the fact that you both started posting around here within a few weeks of each other and we rarely see any posts from the same 7 or 8 individuals, I have no idea where he bases this opinion from. I'm sure there's plenty of room in that super inflated ego for a Sherlock Holmes persona we haven't seen yet.

Hey, if you're right T, I tip my figurative hat to ya. We all know how you love going back into RWED history and digging up things said in the past. Why don't you get to work on that and make your case?

P.S. Do let me know when it's not too early to say I told you so DT

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Alas, that brilliant deduction was me telling him, but last week, JSF just posted it to the board. That said, when I created the account in response to watching the new accusations fly daily. I modeled a character on Shadowfly et al, a cross between the two. Here's the hitch: I then opensourced it, posting the email and password to the board. I can't claim to have always been sockpuppet, and there are moments when I definitely wasn't.

That said, yeah, I'd figure that I've been sockpuppet, do to the timing. I don't want to take away from his achievement, but I did just mention it the post before, and also, JSF did on the Deep State thread. But a real dataminer would have become SP by now themselves.

I was, of course, illustrating a point, which is why I bothered to resurrect the thing. That journey was actually very interesting to me. I'm saying publicly what I said privately to JFS last week, but the character made me see the world in a way I didn't normally. It wasn't an experience I'd had before. The initial experiment was to throw trolls so off balance with an unfazed universal snarker without care in the world, who would gladly attack me as anyone else, written as a work of fiction (again, see Shadowfly, and perhaps a less virulent version of some others I'm not outing.) but yes, helped lead me to the conclusion that River was right.

SP also helped keep DT in check, lest I end up in these flame wars myself, hence the comment about knock'em sock'em robots, which was self-directed as much as anything.

Don't see any reason to retire it, if anything, it's helped me a great deal to see the truth. That said, it is a dangerous experiment. Some users not here presently had a scary talent at pretending to be, and channeling other users in an otherwise indiscernible manner. Add to that, an open an anonymous account on which to do it, and the world became a very dark zen labyrinth.

Eventually, it was a matter of time before I slipped up, and was signed in to the wrong account. I had said that which was green was me, and SP should not be paraphrasing.

6, read this thread, and you'll see the confession that outlines the discovery, y, and then I would mention that JSF's post last week aside, a prior full confession from years ago was posted along with UN & PW, and half of y'all were gorram here for it! (Including you, Jack) I know, it's painful, but there are so many, even I have to search sometimes and see who was a puppet of whom, and some of those accusations were laughable. But technically, I can't prove definitively that you are not SP. Any user older than '09 or '10 might be.

That said, T made no attempt to unravel my post. I gave him a pretty thorough analysis of the board and everyone on it, and his attempt to pigeonhole them is in fact trying to pin jelly to a wall, it ain't that simple, and I threw in a definition of troll, and all I got in response was some trolling pasta I just h

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 1, 2017 4:50 AM (P)

Awwww...

I liked Sockpuppet :(

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Wednesday, March 1, 2017 10:24 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I thought that poem was T's cute little way of calling you a sockpuppet without actually saying it DT. It turns out that T's actually saying that SOCKPUPPET is you're sockpuppet.

Other than the fact that you both started posting around here within a few weeks of each other and we rarely see any posts from the same 7 or 8 individuals, I have no idea where he bases this opinion from. I'm sure there's plenty of room in that super inflated ego for a Sherlock Holmes persona we haven't seen yet.

Hey, if you're right T, I tip my figurative hat to ya.

P.S. Do let me know when it's not too early to say I told you so DT

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That said, yeah, I'd figure that I've been sockpuppet, do to the timing. I don't want to take away from his achievement, but I did just mention it the post before. I was, of course, illustrating a point, which is why I bothered to resurrect the thing. The initial experiment was to throw trolls so off balance. Don't see any reason to retire it.

Eventually, it was a matter of time before I slipped up, and was signed in to the wrong account.

That said, T made no attempt to unravel my post. I gave him a pretty thorough analysis of the board and everyone on it, and his attempt to pigeonhole them is in fact trying to pin jelly to a wall, it ain't that simple, and I threw in a definition of troll, and all I got in response was some trolling pasta I just had to snark, and failed to notice that I was not signed in as me.

Your analysis of the posters in these boards is fraught with inaccuracies. You post here claiming superiority in understanding them even though you've been absent for years. Because you haven't been here, you couldn't possibly know if the years you have been absent hadn't taken a toll on them. If they in fact changed.

Well, I have been here and the assertions you put forth weren't based on facts, but instead memory. Not on any of the current debates between SIG, 1kiki and the many here who disagree with almost everything they post. Not on any research done on what they post here now, and how much of it is lies and propaganda. Not on current behaviors of others here, who's theory's and attitudes are based on their emotions and anger.

Anyone who hasn't witnessed the past two years here, could not unashamedly make the blatant, none restrained assumptions you have. Unless they were running on ego.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 2, 2017 1:32 AM (P)

Says the resident egomaniac.

Takes one to know one, I guess.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Saturday, March 4, 2017 1:34 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Says the resident egomaniac.

Takes one to know one, I guess.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Gee

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SOCKPUPPET

Saturday, March 4, 2017 2:33 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I thought that poem was T's cute little way of calling you a sockpuppet without actually saying it DT. It turns out that T's actually saying that SOCKPUPPET is you're sockpuppet.

Other than the fact that you both started posting around here within a few weeks of each other and we rarely see any posts from the same 7 or 8 individuals, I have no idea where he bases this opinion from. I'm sure there's plenty of room in that super inflated ego for a Sherlock Holmes persona we haven't seen yet.

Hey, if you're right T, I tip my figurative hat to ya.

P.S. Do let me know when it's not too early to say I told you so DT

Do Right, Be Right. :)

That said, yeah, I'd figure that I've been sockpuppet, do to the timing. I don't want to take away from his achievement, but I did just mention it the post before. I was, of course, illustrating a point, which is why I bothered to resurrect the thing. The initial experiment was to throw trolls so off balance. Don't see any reason to retire it.

Eventually, it was a matter of time before I slipped up, and was signed in to the wrong account.

That said, T made no attempt to unravel my post. I gave him a pretty thorough analysis of the board and everyone on it, and his attempt to pigeonhole them is in fact trying to pin jelly to a wall, it ain't that simple, and I threw in a definition of troll, and all I got in response was some trolling pasta I just had to snark, and failed to notice that I was not signed in as me.

Your analysis of the posters in these boards is fraught with inaccuracies. You post here claiming superiority in understanding them even though you've been absent for years. Because you haven't been here, you couldn't possibly know if the years you have been absent hadn't taken a toll on them. If they in fact changed.

Well, I have been here and the assertions you put forth weren't based on facts, but instead memory. Not on any of the current debates between SIG, 1kiki and the many here who disagree with almost everything they post. Not on any research done on what they post here now, and how much of it is lies and propaganda. Not on current behaviors of others here, who's theory's and attitudes are based on their emotions and anger.

Anyone who hasn't witnessed the past two years here, could not unashamedly make the blatant, none restrained assumptions you have. Unless they were running on ego.

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SOCKPUPPET

Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:54 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Awwww...

I liked Sockpuppet :(

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:30 AM (P)

I don't know what that is, but it sounds awesome.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't know what that is, but it sounds awesome.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Srsly? You got 50 years of catching up to do.
Fortunately, you can do them in any fashion because you have a time machine.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 4, 2017 11:02 AM (P)

Ah... Dr. Who. I saw a few episodes when Eccleston was the Dr. way back in the day on Sci-Fi. Wasn't Billie Piper the companion? I didn't watch too much TV then, and I haven't had cable in like 12 years.

I think that's too much for me to tackle. Everybody keeps telling me how great Game of Thrones is, but at this point trying to start that show now seems like a chore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Saturday, March 4, 2017 6:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Did Trump sanction others on his campaign team speaking with the Russians, at a time when they were trying to interfere in our election? And if he did, why did he lie about it?

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:15 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah... Dr. Who. I saw a few episodes when Eccleston was the Dr. way back in the day on Sci-Fi. Wasn't Billie Piper the companion? I didn't watch too much TV then, and I haven't had cable in like 12 years.

I think that's too much for me to tackle. Everybody keeps telling me how great Game of Thrones is, but at this point trying to start that show now seems like a chore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Can't I live in my own bubble where Eccleston is still the New Doctor? The whole 1-hour format show is old enough to have a "way back in the day?" I grew up on Tom Baker/Elizabeth Sladen, Louise Jameson, w/ Tom Baker. Jo Grant and Zoe, Susan were still circulating.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Jane_Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leela_%28Doctor_Who%29
I don't have a TV and watch very little of anything, there's always time for sci-fi. I figure something else has to be slain for it. 3 hours work, and hour of sf, reading or watching and there's plenty of time for the rest of the day. Lately for me it's been writing.

Amy pond deleted scenes:

The second is particularly one of my favorites.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:16 PM (P)

Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Did Trump sanction others on his campaign team speaking with the Russians, at a time when they were trying to interfere in our election? And if he did, why did he lie about it?

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:37 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Did Trump sanction others on his campaign team speaking with the Russians, at a time when they were trying to interfere in our election? And if he did, why did he lie about it?

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T, yer talkin' to yerself.

Take a dose of Amy Pond and snap back to important stuff.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:50 PM (P)

I was just putting the discussion back on track Sockpuppet,. Apparently your level of frustration rose to the point where you felt the need to troll the thread. Nice to see your frustration is dissipating.

Any Pond isn't real. Perhaps that's part of your problem.

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

Did Trump sanction others on his campaign team speaking with the Russians, at a time when they were trying to interfere in our election? And if he did, why did he lie about it?

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T, yer talkin' to yerself.

Take a dose of Amy Pond and snap back to important stuff.

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DREAMTROVE

Sunday, March 5, 2017 2:08 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Amy Pond isn't real. Perhaps that's part of your problem.

That ain't trollin' that's a threadjack.
You're on a sci-fi website ...

...as is your impeachment

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 5:52 AM (P)

Where are we at on that Countdown Clock btw...?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:56 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Where are we at on that Countdown Clock btw...?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The fairy hand is pointing to the six and the troll hand is point to everything

THGRRI

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Amy Pond isn't real. Perhaps that's part of your problem.
That ain't trollin' that's a threadjack.
You're on a sci-fi website ...

...as is your impeachment

Thread jack, trolling the thread, apples and apples sockpuppet.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:06 AM (P)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 1:26 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It is a trick that only works on people that are below average in memory -- which is half the people you know, including yourself, 6ix. Salesmen who want to get rich don't waste time trying to sell to every person in the country, just the easiest half.

Anybody wondering what I was talking about in the Peace thread...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:46 PM (P)

OONJERAH kept it simple and to the point while explaining Real World. Then G nailed it when addressing sockpuppet/dreamtrove. As you are starting to realize Jack. My responses to you are based on your posts and if you're snarky. If you are basing what you post on reality or your anecdotal experiences, which always seem to lead you in the wrong direction.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It is a trick that only works on people that are below average in memory -- which is half the people you know, including yourself, 6ix. Salesmen who want to get rich don't waste time trying to sell to every person in the country, just the easiest half.

Anybody wondering what I was talking about in the Peace thread...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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RIVERLOVE

Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Where are we at on that Countdown Clock btw...?

That clock just popped its mainspring. The Obama wiretap story is proving to be true, and it's not being denied by the accused. And at least eight senior Democrat Congressmen met with the Russian Ambassador during the campaign to try to disrupt Trump's candidacy. The new countdown clock to imprisonment for Democrat conspirators is ticking away like a new Rolex.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281760/Six-Democrats-met-Russ
ian-Ambassador-past.html#ixzz4aOqSgb7F

SECOND

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:26 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:

That clock just popped its mainspring. The Obama wiretap story is proving to be true, and it's not being denied by the accused. The new countdown clock to imprisonment for Democrat conspirators is ticking away like a new Rolex.

You would be mistaken, Riverlove. The spokesman for Mr Obama, Kevin Lewis, said the accusation was "simply false". A "cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice", he said.
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39170985

The clock is ticking on Trump because he has the power, not Obama, to clarify everything right now by declassifying all surveillance records and court records. If Obama did the crime, his fingerprints will be all over the crime scene and Obama won't be able to dodge responsibility. Trump has every incentive to declassify as soon as possible.

Except Trump is not clarifying anything. Instead, Trump is dumping his responsibilities onto Congress by "requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the congressional intelligence committees exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016." That is a Trump delaying tactic, so he does not admit he made up the whole story on twitter.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/05/donald-trump-barack-ob
ama/98774014/

The White House press office did not immediately respond to requests to comment on whether Trump will use his declassification power regarding his tweeted claims. It’s previously ignored repeated questions about whether he will use it regarding the general issue of contacts between Russia and his campaign.
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/04/if-trump-tower-was-wiretapped-trum
p-can-declassify-that-right-now/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:02 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
OONJERAH kept it simple and to the point while explaining Real World. Then G nailed it when addressing sockpuppet/dreamtrove. As you are starting to realize Jack. My responses to you are based on your posts and if you're snarky. If you are basing what you post on reality or your anecdotal experiences, which always seem to lead you in the wrong direction.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It is a trick that only works on people that are below average in memory -- which is half the people you know, including yourself, 6ix. Salesmen who want to get rich don't waste time trying to sell to every person in the country, just the easiest half.

Anybody wondering what I was talking about in the Peace thread...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I wasn't talking about you now, was I?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:28 PM (P)

From Sean Spicer, White House Press Secretary, 5:51 AM - 5 Mar 2017:

Reports concerning potentially politically motivated investigations immediately ahead of the 2016 election are very troubling. President Trump is requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the congressional intelligence committees exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016. Neither the White House nor the President will comment further until such oversight is conducted.
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/838386520906219520

Trump will make no comment until the "investigation" is finished! Wow! That is so unlike Trump. That's brilliant, assuming Trump can control himself and won’t tweet more accusations that Obama was plotting to ruin Trump’s sterling reputation with illegal wiretaps. I wonder how aggressive the press corps will be about calling out this obvious artifice?

Trump started it on Saturday with a tweet and he could have finished today by declassifying and releasing the documents “proving” that Obama broke laws and customs by personally ordering wiretaps, but Trump will take the high road and let Congress “investigate”. I have a feeling that Congress will “investigate” Obama for a very long time and then decide that he didn’t commit felony wiretapping for political gain while President.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Mar 4 tweeted:

How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837996746236182529

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 11:15 PM (P)

This government needs an enema. Flush 'em all out. Drainin' the swamp Bitches!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Monday, March 6, 2017 1:31 AM (P)

Looks to me like they all lied and are still lying, but that link def. implicates Pelosi and Schumer as well, in the lying. The Russia doesn't bother me, but the lying does, as does the return of cold war thinking on the issue.

THGRRI

Monday, March 6, 2017 11:31 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This government needs an enema. Flush 'em all out. Drainin' the swamp Bitches!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Since most are men you mean bastards don't you? Drain the swamp bastards?

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THGRRI

Thursday, March 9, 2017 6:46 AM (P)

Flynn lobbied for Turkish-linked firm after election, documents show

President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn wrote an op-ed on Election Day calling for the U.S. to kick out an anti-government Turkish cleric without disclosing he was being paid by a firm linked to the Turkish government, according to documents newly filed with the Justice Department.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/michael-flynn-lobby-turkey-23584
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JO753

Thursday, March 9, 2017 9:20 AM (P)

Good compendium:
https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ti
es

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