Is Trump Nuts?

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THGRRI

Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:12 PM

Trump Accuses Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower During Campaign

Donald Trump alleged in a tweet storm early Saturday that former President Barack Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower before his election victory.

Trump did not provide any evidence for the claims, which followed an interview on Fox News where the allegations came up.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" Trump wrote as part of a series of tweets Saturday morning.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-re
sidence-during-campaign-n729056

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 4, 2017 9:12 PM

Nah, he's a scam artist. And sure, they undoubtedly were spying because HRC wanted to win. But she's a psycho, and Obama's now record deliberately trying to start a war. So, we let a mass murderer leave, and then we voted against a genocidal lunatic, and we got a scam artist. Welcome to politics.

ELVISCHRIST

Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:53 PM

Here's the thing: The president cannot order a wiretap. It's not in his power to do so.

For Trump to be wiretapped, a federal judge had to issue a warrant, which means a federal judge had to be convinced by a FISA court that there was probable cause that Trump either was committing, was about to commit, or already had committed a federal crime such as treason.

So by claiming that he was being wiretapped, Der Gröpenfuhrer is admitting that the feds had reason to believe he was doing something illegal.

Is that really what he wants to tell us?

Of course, for the dolts and morons who voted for and support him, that's all moot, because they'll never hear any of that, because it's not going to be reported on FauxNews or NotSoBreitbart, which is where this particularly scurrilous breed of dipshit gets all their disinformation.

SECOND

Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.

Or Trump is silly. If he'd try to understand something ( anything! ) that was not about money or sex or his popularity, Trump would know that FBI inquiries into ties between four Trump associates and Russian government figures had led to applications for two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrants. One application was rejected, and then a second, narrower application was accepted. Contrary to Trump’s assertions, neither Obama nor any other President of the United States personally directs FBI investigations, and there’s no evidence that Obama had anything to do with this personally. Lurking beneath Trump’s conspiratorial web is simply the reality that Trump is confirming that the FBI, the intelligence services, and the FISA Court believe there is some kind of investigation-worthy evidence out there.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-joh
n-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 1:50 AM

Nah. He's just trolling. He can't get a break for one single day from the liberal media throwing all sorts of baseless accusations against him, so he's just going to start throwing them back.

As for the idea that the President can't order a wiretap.... what world are you living in? The President can't start a war without Congressional approval. How's that working out for the Middle East?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Sunday, March 5, 2017 5:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.

Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.

Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 5:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements.

LOL... yep. I'm sure that if he closed his twitter account the media would stop talking about him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

ELVISCHRIST

Sunday, March 5, 2017 6:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. He's just trolling. He can't get a break for one single day from the liberal media throwing all sorts of baseless accusations against him, so he's just going to start throwing them back.

So you're fine with presidents just making shit up.

Tell me again how you never had any problem with Obama, and you'd have been totally cool with him just "trolling" by spewing a bunch of insane bullshit at every opportunity, and I'll correctly point out that you're a fucking lying piece of shit.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:55 AM

Obama did that all the time. The only difference is he smiled at your face while stabbing you in the back.

Remember when the ACA was going to allow you to keep your doctor and American families were going to be saving up to $2.5k per year? Or how we were going to get out of all of those wars in the Middle East and bring our troops back home?

Maybe you prefer the more sneaky approach like when he gave away the reins of the internet to the UN in September? Or how American's saw on average a 12% decrease in compensation vs. inflation for their work over the last 8 years while corporations saw a 54% increase in revenues?

I could go on.... but I'm bored now. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Or Trump is silly. If he'd try to understand something ( anything! ) that was not about money or sex or his popularity, Trump would know that FBI inquiries into ties between four Trump associates and Russian government figures had led to applications for two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrants. One application was rejected, and then a second, narrower application was accepted. Contrary to Trump’s assertions, neither Obama nor any other President of the United States personally directs FBI investigations, and there’s no evidence that Obama had anything to do with this personally. Lurking beneath Trump’s conspiratorial web is simply the reality that Trump is confirming that the FBI, the intelligence services, and the FISA Court believe there is some kind of investigation-worthy evidence out there.

LOL... Trump should have you on his team Second. You'd be invaluable.

I'm SURE that he is completely unaware of any of this.

The hubris of some people... I tell ya.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THGRRI

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Here's the thing: The president cannot order a wiretap. It's not in his power to do so.

For Trump to be wiretapped, a federal judge had to issue a warrant, which means a federal judge had to be convinced by a FISA court that there was probable cause that Trump either was committing, was about to commit, or already had committed a federal crime such as treason.

So by claiming that he was being wiretapped, Der Gröpenfuhrer is admitting that the feds had reason to believe he was doing something illegal.

Is that really what he wants to tell us?

Of course, for the dolts and morons who voted for and support him, that's all moot, because they'll never hear any of that, because it's not going to be reported on FauxNews or NotSoBreitbart, which is where this particularly scurrilous breed of dipshit gets all their disinformation.

I would point to the posts here based on nothingness and this one. Gentlemen, we have a winner here. Very good elvischrist.

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THGRRI

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.

Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.

Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.

I agree with Magonsdaughter Brenda. The United States plays a unique role in the world. Our allies voicing their opinions should not only be welcome, it is necessary.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Very good elvischrist.

I give it a D+.

I reckon it were talking down to us rubes fer so long what got Trump 'lected in the ferst place.

Keep going with that way of lording some imaginary moral and intellectual superiority over those who don't agree with you though. You're all but ensuring that your side is going to lose again in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Obama did that all the time. The only difference is he smiled at your face while stabbing you in the back.

Remember when the ACA was going to allow you to keep your doctor and American families were going to be saving up to $2.5k per year? Or how we were going to get out of all of those wars in the Middle East and bring our troops back home?

Maybe you prefer the more sneaky approach like when he gave away the reins of the internet to the UN in September? Or how American's saw on average a 12% decrease in compensation vs. inflation for their work over the last 8 years while corporations saw a 54% increase in revenues?

I could go on.... but I'm bored now. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Forced to remember it every day.

Brenda,

Canadians can weigh in any time. Trump is pretty pro Canada, it's Mexico he has an issue with. I'll back your right to post on our politics no matter which side you're on.

However, new topic anyone? Kinda of enough on trump'll_fry-fans.net

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:

You know DT. I'm not so sure that Trump being pro-Canada is a good thing. He probably thinks our PM is a good "kid".

Beats this as our Canadian foreign policy:

THGRRI

Sunday, March 5, 2017 8:09 PM

Shit Jack, he was posting facts and procedures. You can find Lindsey Graham saying the same thing. Posting facts is not speaking down to someone. That's just how someone ruled by emotion feels when they are bested. And your response is how they lash out because of it. This could be a learning moment for you Jack.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Very good elvischrist.

I give it a D+.

I reckon it were talking down to us rubes fer so long what got Trump 'lected in the ferst place.

Keep going with that way of lording some imaginary moral and intellectual superiority over those who don't agree with you though. You're all but ensuring that your side is going to lose again in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Shit Jack, he was posting facts and procedures. You can find Lindsey Graham saying the same thing. Posting facts is not speaking down to someone. That's just how someone ruled by emotion feels when they are bested. And your response is how they lash out because of it. This could be a learning moment for you Jack.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Very good elvischrist.

I give it a D+.

I reckon it were talking down to us rubes fer so long what got Trump 'lected in the ferst place.

Keep going with that way of lording some imaginary moral and intellectual superiority over those who don't agree with you though. You're all but ensuring that your side is going to lose again in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Really? Let's see...

Reply one (not the one you quoted)

Quote:
...and I'll correctly point out that you're a fucking lying piece of shit.

And from the post you admired so much...

Quote:
Of course, for the dolts and morons who voted for and support him, that's all moot, because they'll never hear any of that, because it's not going to be reported on FauxNews or NotSoBreitbart, which is where this particularly scurrilous breed of dipshit gets all their disinformation.

I'm learning a lot alright...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, March 6, 2017 4:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:

I don't trust Trump for a minute if he thought Canada was against him that he wouldn't suggest building another idiot wall.

In keeping with the theme “Is Trump Nuts?” I give you an editorial about “A Generation of Sociopaths: How The Baby Boomers Betrayed America”

www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/02/26/how-baby-boomers-destroyed-everyt
hing/lVB9eG5mATw3wxo6XmDZFL/story.html

Even before the election, Americans were asking just how we got here — to this sullen moment of national reckoning. Since November, the autopsy has dragged on so long it seems there could be nothing left to dissect. But the search continues, because no truly satisfying answer has yet been offered. Deplorables, deportables, economic malaise, rural resentment, coastal hauteur whatever — these are just symptoms. The root illness remains undiagnosed, but here it is: the baby boomers, that vast generation of Americans born in the first two decades after World War II. The body politic rests on the slab because boomers put it there, because decades of boomerism produced the problems and disaffection of which 2016 was merely the latest expression.

It’s a shocking hypothesis, but then again, America has suffered a shocking decline. In 1971, Alan Shepard was playing golf on the moon. Today, America can’t put a man into orbit (or, allegedly, the Oval Office) without Russian assistance. Something changed, and that something was the boomers and the sociopathic agenda they emplaced.

My indictment of boomers may seem overbroad, but the thesis is quite specific: the unusual prevalence of sociopathy in an unusually large generation. How does that disorder manifest? Improvidence is reflected in low levels of savings and high levels of bankruptcy. Deceit shows up as a distaste for facts, a subject on display in everything from Enron’s quarterly reports to daily press briefings. Interpersonal failures and unbridled hostility appeared in unusually high levels of divorce and crime from the 1970s to early 1990s. These problems expressed themselves at generationally unique levels in boomers, to a greater extent than in boomers’ parents or children at comparable ages. (My forthcoming book lays out all these data in detail.)

Boomers weren’t genetically predestined to be dysfunctional; they were conditioned to be. They were the first generation to be raised permissively, the first reared on television and subject to its developmental harms, and the only living group raised in an era of seemingly effortless prosperity. Can too much license, TV, and unearned wealth distort personalities? May I suggest looking south toward 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

The boomers’ sociopathic inclinations might be of sociological, but not political, interest except for one fact: Boomers have a lot of voting power. Although boomers peaked at just over half the voting age population in the early 1980s, their influence kept growing as they voted more frequently, unleashed a flood of political money, and elected co-generationalists, all in reckless pursuit of the sociopathic agenda. In the 1970s, the older establishment had already begun bending to boomer power, though not always cravenly enough, a problem boomers resolved by becoming the establishment itself. Boomers’ notable early achievement was electing Bill Clinton, who began the long saga that meandered through Bush II and ends — well, who knows how exactly it will end?

What happened in the White House happened everywhere else. By 1994, boomers held a majority of House seats, a proportion that peaked at 79 percent in 2008 and remains a still formidable 69 percent. The rest of government went the same way: Boomers make up 86 percent of governors, about three-quarters of the proposed Cabinet, and much of the judiciary and bureaucracy. Except for youthful Silicon Valley, the private sector also fell into boomer hands decades ago and remains there.

By the late 1990s, as boomerism really expressed itself, disasters arrived: financial scandals, economic infirmities, moun

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 6, 2017 5:15 AM

Yeah... I'm not buying that.

Let's pit the generations against each other on top of sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc, etc, etc...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Monday, March 6, 2017 10:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... I'm not buying that.

Let's pit the generations against each other on top of sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc, etc, etc...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

A new koolaid. Speaking of which, check out the video I posted, the interview with the KGB agent, he talks about how they cooked up all the koolaid. Them and Frankfurt School. It's really impressive to see how it actually all was a communist plot after all.

SECOND

Monday, March 6, 2017 5:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... I'm not buying that.

Let's pit the generations against each other on top of sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc, etc, etc...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Well, I buy the theory that "By the late 1990s, as boomerism really expressed itself, disasters arrived: financial scandals, economic infirmities, mounting debt, unaddressed climate change, a growing entitlements crisis, and more. Since it was politically untenable to locate blame in obvious places, other explanations were manufactured for the nation’s woes. (Immigrants!) Especially on the coasts, other explanations have been long suspected, such as the predations of a swollen GOP. Not implausible, but then you have to ask where the swelling comes from, and that circles back to boomers who, despite their hippie reputation, are net Republican."

This is definitely true: "boomers who, despite their hippie reputation, are net Republican." The first vaguely political book I ever bought was Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot by Senator Al Franken of Minnesota. In stark contrast, an actual Baby Boomer that I know began filling his library in 1999 with all of Rush Limbaugh’s books because, according the boomer, “Rush tells it like it is.”
www.amazon.com/Rush-Limbaugh-Big-Fat-Idiot/dp/0440508649

Since then, I’ve prospered while the former long-haired hippy turned to Rush reading sociopath of a boomer is now a foaming-at-mouth Republican whose life has gone to hell – losing jobs, making bad decisions, buying a Harley motorcycle and crashing it, you name the stereotypical boomer stupidity and he has done it, culminating in voting for and defending Trump. Reading Rush will rot your brain. That baby boomer who read Rush for the last 18 years definitely has had his brain damaged.

A sample from the book Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot:

Quote:
I liked the Bob Dole I read about in Cramer’s book, even though the ambition that made him an absentee husband and dad caused his first marriage to end in divorce. Frankly, I’m getting a little sick of cranky Republicans who can’t keep their own families together telling everybody else about family values. Quick. What do Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Phil Gramm, and George Will have in common? Answer. They’ve all been married only one less time than Rush Limbaugh.

I spend time with my kids. And lots of it. I believe the best thing a parent can give his kid is time. And not just quality time, but big, stinking, lazy, non-productive quantity time. In fact, that’s why this book is so badly written. Believe me, you’d be enjoying the experience of reading this book a lot more if I weren’t so dedicated to my children.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:42 AM

I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?

You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:15 AM

Hey!

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Hey!

diddle diddle

The cat and the Scientologist. Not a member, but I know these guys, and they're not dumb. The current head of CoS is a nutter, but as ideologies go, if they could get away from Hubbard monotheism, they'd be okay.

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The cat and the Scientologist. Not a member, but I know these guys, and they're not dumb. The current head of CoS is a nutter, but as ideologies go, if they could get away from Hubbard monotheism, they'd be okay.

I definitely don't think they're stupid. The ones at the top raking in the cash anyhow.

I remember buying Dianetics from something I saw on TV back when I was like 20 and super stoned. That was 17 years and 5 addresses ago, and to this day I still get a very heavy mailer from them about every 2-3 months. It's creepy. They have probably spent over $100 in production costs and postage trying to recruit me for the better part of two decades after I spent $30 bucks on a Dianetics starter kit.

What's $100 bucks when you charge somebody $50,000 to be "clear", right?

That being said, I did find the book fascinating at the time. I tried getting my uncle to read it and he started to get pissed when I pushed it. He was a very non-practicing Catholic that didn't ever preach about it, but he knew something was wrong with them years before knocking on Scientology was cool.

SECOND

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?

You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do people who can’t think listen to Rush? Or does listening to Rush diminish thinking? Yes to both, I say.

A typical day at www.rushlimbaugh.com/ will have Rush telling misleading stories and making claims or drawing conclusions he can’t prove. This goes on for hours and tomorrow Rush will do it again and the same listeners will be back. What kind of person would listen to Rush? Do they have all their marbles? No they don’t, but I am drawing my conclusion from a small sample size of Texas Republicans whose personal incompetence in the biggest decisions of life is noteworthy. Where you are from, whatever state, maybe, just maybe, Rush listeners are not a bunch of dumb asses in the real world. You are very lucky. (By "dumb ass" I don't mean Republican. I mean they make dumb mistakes that cost money, jobs, marriages and health. These aren't trivial mistakes. One has two strikes: negligent homicide and accidental poisoning of his wife. She is very dead. I'll add a little moral: pay less attention to what Trump or Rush say and more attention to their own lives.)

A sample from www.rushlimbaugh.com
Phony Penguin Photo Used to Sell Global Warming Lie
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: The picture was a couple of penguins on an anvil-shaped piece of ice in what looked like a rock-strewn, barren landscape.

We’ve Never Seen Anything Like CNN’s Spy Cam
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Did you see what CNN did yesterday? Have you seen still shots or video of this? They never did this on Obama.

You Better Be Applauding Donald Trump for Turning the Tables on the Democrats
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: This whole Russia-rigged-the election thing is a bogus charge and he decided to pick the grenade up and throw it right back at the media-Democrat complex. And it's working.

In Defense of Jason Chaffetz
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Jason Chaffetz stepped into it yesterday, and I’m gonna defend him. I know exactly what he was talking about. He may not know what he was talking about, but I do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The cat and the Scientologist. Not a member, but I know these guys, and they're not dumb. The current head of CoS is a nutter, but as ideologies go, if they could get away from Hubbard monotheism, they'd be okay.

I definitely don't think they're stupid. The ones at the top raking in the cash anyhow.

I remember buying Dianetics from something I saw on TV back when I was like 20 and super stoned. That was 17 years and 5 addresses ago, and to this day I still get a very heavy mailer from them about every 2-3 months. It's creepy. They have probably spent over $100 in production costs and postage trying to recruit me for the better part of two decades after I spent $30 bucks on a Dianetics starter kit.

What's $100 bucks when you charge somebody $50,000 to be "clear", right?

That being said, I did find the book fascinating at the time. I tried getting my uncle to read it and he started to get pissed when I pushed it. He was a very non-practicing Catholic that didn't ever preach about it, but he knew something was wrong with them years before knocking on Scientology was cool.

I met a guy form neopets online, in '08, after having met others in Kansas in '06. I ended up corresponding with him, and he helped me set up my store, and I talked him into going digital with the info push, and trimming it down to a manageable size. I guess he was in charge of the massive distributiong and I was saving him from wasting money, so I didn't end up getting bombarded. I think this is true of any organization: If you come in on the top floor, you get treated very different from if you walk in through the front door. That might explain some of the Tom-Katie stuff.

Also, $50k ? If the religion works, then the information should be free (and, i'm sure, is, posted all over the place. There's a large scientologist heretic community.) I've thought of getting together stuff that fits into Hubbard's spectrum by other people at times, but thten again, I've also thought of entering their contest and never did it. I should really write more.

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?

You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do people who can’t think listen to Rush? Or does listening to Rush diminish thinking? Yes to both, I say.

A typical day at www.rushlimbaugh.com/ will have Rush telling misleading stories and making claims or drawing conclusions he can’t prove. This goes on for hours and tomorrow Rush will do it again and the same listeners will be back. What kind of person would listen to Rush? Do they have all their marbles? No they don’t, but I am drawing my conclusion from a small sample size of Texas Republicans whose personal incompetence in the biggest decisions of life is noteworthy. Where you are from, whatever state, maybe, just maybe, Rush listeners are not a bunch of dumb asses in the real world. You are very lucky. (By "dumb ass" I don't mean Republican. I mean they make dumb mistakes that cost money, jobs, marriages and health. These aren't trivial mistakes. One has two strikes: negligent homicide and accidental poisoning of his wife. She is very dead. I'll add a little moral: pay less attention to what Trump or Rush say and more attention to their own lives.)

A sample from www.rushlimbaugh.com
Phony Penguin Photo Used to Sell Global Warming Lie
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: The picture was a couple of penguins on an anvil-shaped piece of ice in what looked like a rock-strewn, barren landscape.

We’ve Never Seen Anything Like CNN’s Spy Cam
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Did you see what CNN did yesterday? Have you seen still shots or video of this? They never did this on Obama.

You Better Be Applauding Donald Trump for Turning the Tables on the Democrats
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: This whole Russia-rigged-the election thing is a bogus charge and he decided to pick the grenade up and throw it right back at the media-Democrat complex. And it's working.

In Defense of Jason Chaffetz
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Jason Chaffetz stepped into it yesterday, and I’m gonna defend him. I know exactly what he was talking about. He may not know what he was talking about, but I do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

You're going to tell me about claims Rush makes that can't be proven and then with a straight face tell me that Republicans you know in your area are incompetent enough to accidentally poison their wives either because they listened to Rush and got brain damage or were brain damaged enough in the first place to listen to Rush?

I didn't know you had a sense of humor. That's hilarious. More please.

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
I met a guy form neopets online, in '08, after having met others in Kansas in '06. I ended up corresponding with him, and he helped me set up my store, and I talked him into going digital with the info push, and trimming it down to a manageable size. I guess he was in charge of the massive distributiong and I was saving him from wasting money, so I didn't end up getting bombarded. I think this is true of any organization: If you come in on the top floor, you get treated very different from if you walk in through the front door. That might explain some of the Tom-Katie stuff.

Also, $50k ? If the religion works, then the information should be free (and, i'm sure, is, posted all over the place. There's a large scientologist heretic community.) I've thought of getting together stuff that fits into Hubbard's spectrum by other people at times, but thten again, I've also thought of entering their contest and never did it. I should really write more.

I'd LOVE to know how much money Tom has given to the "Church". Or John Travolta, or that kid from the 70's show, or the laundry list of Hollywood celebs who have bought into it. I'll bet none of them were ever asked for a single cent, but they've given much more than the church would expect from you or I.

Have you ever read the book? It's the only one by him that I've ever read, and I thought it was amazing at the time. Then again, I was only 20 years old and essentially an entirely different person than I am now, so I don't know if I'd say the same today. You got to remember that back then was before most folk were even on the internet and really the only thing most of us knew about Scientology was that John Travolta was into it. That was years before South Park kind of blew it all up and exposed them to the world and Anonymous had their fun with them. I don't think I could give it a fair evaluation for a second read now because I'd be going into it thinking it was a cult recruiting tool instead of the self-help/psychology book that it was marketed as back then.

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:22 AM

Now, play nice. Just had a trip down memory lane reading old threads. Miss those guys. I think it's time for a revival.

REAVERFAN

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 9:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.

Your nationality has nothing to do with what you think of anyone.

I'm a US citizen and I agree. He's nuts.

JO753

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:16 AM

He'z a 10 yir old rich brat that never got the spanking he dezerved. Arrested development.

Wun uv the hardest thingz in life iz to not be an asshole. Its impossibl to get anything serious dun without being an asshole to sumbudy, but you haf to try to minimize the offens and weigh it agenst the benefits.

Trump iz not only too stoopid to figure that out on hiz own in 70 yirz, he iz too stoopid to understand it no matter how hard you try to explain it.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

OONJERAH

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:27 PM

Stoopid & a Wurld leader:

Sounds like a formula for disaster. :(

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:44 PM

lol... you guys are funny

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:35 PM

Maybe. But he's just realized ... as you still haven't .... how far the deep state extends. (see 'Vault 7') And he still has the ability to be shocked about it.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

SECOND

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?

You're points are all over the map.

I'll be all over the map again.

I had to check to learn if the guy who crashed his motorcycle can listen to Rush on the radio while riding. Yes, he can.

On a motorcycle, if you stop thinking about what is going on around you, you’re dead. To listen to Rush, you must turn off your brain to the outside world and go deep within the nifty story that Rush is weaving for you, his listeners. To ride a motorcycle while listening to Rush with your brain off the road traffic, with your attention somewhere other than the streets around you, is very dangerous. That motorcycle crash of the Rush Limbaugh/Trump lover happened at noon, which is prime time for Rush on KTRH NewsRadio 740 in Houston. He would not admit to listening to Rush when it happened, but who would be that honest?

Here is an example of a really good fairy tale that Rush was weaving yesterday for the benefit of Trump lovers. A perfect fantasy for crashing your motorcycle:
www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/07/you-better-be-applauding-donald-
trump-for-turning-the-tables-on-the-democrats/

There is more about the Rush/Trump fan on a motorcycle. He is a family man who knows that statistics don’t apply to him. Most Rush listeners feel in their hearts that they are not average, that statistics don’t apply to them, and that their lives will work out just fine if only the government would leave them alone and let them ride their motorcycles without a helmet. In Texas, it is legal to ride without a helmet.

Facts and statistics from other people’s lost lives mean very little to him because he rides for Freedom and Making America Great. I shall tell his wife to buy life insurance on him because it is the prudent thing to do when married to a Rush ditto head on a motorcycle:

Occupant Fatality Rates By Vehicle Type 2014

Fatality rate per 100,000 registered vehicles Motorcycles 54.48, Passenger cars 9.09
Fatality rate per 100 million vehicle miles traveled Motorcycles 22.96, Passenger cars 0.85
www.iii.org/issue-update/motorcycle-crashes

Is there a correlation between listening to Rush on the radio and fatally crashing your car or cycle? Nobody can say because nobody knows how to collect the data from the deceased but God.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:31 PM

In the last two days I've heard more Rush stuff than I have in the last 2 years.

If I ever decide I want to get a motorcycle I will keep all of this in mind and make sure that I wasn't listening to Rush before I head to the Harley Shop. Thanks Second!

SECOND

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
In the last two days I've heard more Rush stuff than I have in the last 2 years.

If I ever decide I want to get a motorcycle I will keep all of this in mind and make sure that I wasn't listening to Rush before I head to the Harley Shop. Thanks Second!

Not that you asked, but I've got a slightly amusing story to explain what Rush was doing with his very imaginative, even highly intelligent, defense of Trump -- this particular defense, which is a really good story: www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/07/you-better-be-applauding-donald-
trump-for-turning-the-tables-on-the-democrats/

My story, very different from Rush's story and not as clever, says something about who is acting nuts while defending Trump. It goes like this:

For many years, the famous Crystal Palace dinner theater in Aspen featured a cabaret song that every audience loved: “The Peanut Butter Affair.”

It told the story of a CEO who had gone to work one day, without properly washing his face, and still had a lump of peanut butter on his chin. But none of his employees dared to tell him.

When he got home, though, his wife told him it was there, and he was appalled. But he was even more appalled when he showed up for work over the next few days and eventually “every jerk from the chairman to the clerk had a lump of peanut butter on his chin.”

That spoof of underlings who witlessly mimic their bosses came to mind as I listened to Trump aides and allies justifying the president’s Saturday morning Twitter rant alleging — without any evidence — that President Barack Obama ordered Trump Tower phones be tapped during the 2016 campaign. It seemed like the whole Trump team was putting peanut butter on their chins. The only question was who had the biggest lump. (In my opinion, Rush Limbaugh does, which is why his audience is very large and very satisfied with him.)

www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/opinion/peanut-butter-on-the-trump-teams-ch
ins.html

I did not forgot the moral to the story: If our president is willing to casually throw under a bus our most elemental principles of presidential conduct — such as, you don’t accuse your predecessor of a high crime without evidence, just to divert attention away from your latest mess — we have a real problem. I am sorry to say that it is necessary to spotlight the obvious moral because Trump lovers can blindly not see such things.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:42 PM

I'm trying to keep an open mind Second.

I won't deny that I still like Trump. I'm no mindless peanut lump sporting sycophant though.

What I wish the left and the MSM would do right now is just tone it down a bit. What we're seeing here is information overload, and every single day we get to see another story or three with Trump making headlines. The half of the country that voted against Trump are eating up every bit of it and it's fueling their anger, and the other half of the country is either digging in their heels and fighting back or simply tuning out altogether.

I'm willing to reconsider my opinions about Trump if there are actual things of substance that he is guilty of, but I'm not going to sift through thousands of hate articles that are thrown against the wall by the left just to see what sticks.

It reeks of desperation and just solidifies his base against the other side and closes their eyes and ears and minds to any legitimate criticisms of REAL things that he does.

I keep hearing from people here how stupid Trump is. I wouldn't underestimate him. I think he knows exactly what he's doing and that you're all playing right into his hands. He waited what... 5 days after being elected to put in his bid for re-election in 2020? He's already campaigning and not spending any money doing it. You and your friends and the MSM are more powerful than any commercials that he could put on TV.

SECOND

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 9:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
I'm trying to keep an open mind Second.

. . . I wouldn't underestimate him. I think he knows exactly what he's doing and that you're all playing right into his hands. He waited what... 5 days after being elected to put in his bid for re-election in 2020? He's already campaigning and not spending any money doing it. You and your friends and the MSM are more powerful than any commercials that he could put on TV.

I think you are right! Bush got reelected despite the Iraq War going badly on election day in 2004. Trump will get elected in 2020 unless he has either a fiasco, snafu, or scandal bigger than Bush’s Iraq War. Maybe Trump will try doing all three (fiasco, snafu and scandal) out of boredom with running an ordinary election campaign. He craves more stimulation. The worse the crisis he creates the happier Trump is. He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 9:16 PM

You really are a confused person.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Maybe. But he's just realized ... as you still haven't .... how far the deep state extends. (see 'Vault 7') And he still has the ability to be shocked about it.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

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6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, March 8, 2017 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I think you are right! Bush got reelected despite the Iraq War going badly on election day in 2004. Trump will get elected in 2020 unless he has either a fiasco, snafu, or scandal bigger than Bush’s Iraq War. Maybe Trump will try doing all three (fiasco, snafu and scandal) out of boredom with running an ordinary election campaign. He craves more stimulation. The worse the crisis he creates the happier Trump is. He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama.

I'm just enjoying the drama here. Y'all keep doing what you're doing though. You know what they say about the definition of insanity being doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result and all.

Bush got re-elected mainly because of two big lies that he told. He was going to privatize social security and was going to make a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage, and that was enough to put an unpopular president during an unpopular war over the top.

On that occasion, I'm glad he was lying to us and didn't pursue it. It was a ridiculous piece of legislature that Obama or anyone else would have overturned that the second he got into office and it would be another scar on the Constitution.

OONJERAH

Thursday, March 9, 2017 1:15 AM

Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."

The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?

This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.

Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.

Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 9, 2017 4:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?

You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do people who can’t think listen to Rush? Or does listening to Rush diminish thinking? Yes to both, I say.

Ho boy. Your Libtard delusions are showing.

Quote:

A typical day at www.rushlimbaugh.com/ will have Rush telling misleading stories and making claims or drawing conclusions he can’t prove. This goes on for hours and tomorrow Rush will do it again and the same listeners will be back. What kind of person would listen to Rush? Do they have all their marbles? No they don’t, but I am drawing my conclusion from a small sample size of Texas Republicans whose personal incompetence in the biggest decisions of life is noteworthy. Where you are from, whatever state, maybe, just maybe, Rush listeners are not a bunch of dumb asses in the real world. You are very lucky. (By "dumb ass" I don't mean Republican. I mean they make dumb mistakes that cost money, jobs, marriages and health. These aren't trivial mistakes. One has two strikes: negligent homicide and accidental poisoning of his wife. She is very dead. I'll add a little moral: pay less attention to what Trump or Rush say and more attention to their own lives.)

A sample from www.rushlimbaugh.com
Phony Penguin Photo Used to Sell Global Warming Lie
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: The picture was a couple of penguins on an anvil-shaped piece of ice in what looked like a rock-strewn, barren landscape.

We’ve Never Seen Anything Like CNN’s Spy Cam
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Did you see what CNN did yesterday? Have you seen still shots or video of this? They never did this on Obama.

You Better Be Applauding Donald Trump for Turning the Tables on the Democrats
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: This whole Russia-rigged-the election thing is a bogus charge and he decided to pick the grenade up and throw it right back at the media-Democrat complex. And it's working.

In Defense of Jason Chaffetz
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Jason Chaffetz stepped into it yesterday, and I’m gonna defend him. I know exactly what he was talking about. He may not know what he was talking about, but I do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Thursday, March 9, 2017 4:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Ho boy. Your Libtard delusions are showing.

I show real liberal bias. Trump is Baby Man!
www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/6/1639878/-Cartoon-The-return-of-Baby-
Man

Rush’s Famous Quotes for Today!
"Did you see that today is a Day Without Women? Have you heard that? It's something like that, a Day Without Women rally. The organizers here are encouraging women not to shop. Now, how much do you want to bet that idea was cooked up by their husbands?" Maybe a little context will help? Rush is now on wife #4. I predict he will be in the marketplace for #5 by 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, March 9, 2017 5:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."

The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?

This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.

Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.

Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?

I can appreciate that point of view O. Unfortunately we don't ever hear much from the Olde School left. It's drowned out by the new wave leftists' cry baby tantrums on a daily basis. It's hard to reject the President when conservatives can sit back and look at the MSM and how crazy the loud SJW left has been since the election and they get daily reminders of what we didn't get by voting Clinton in.

Like I said... their behavior is a better re-election advertisement than anything he could actually pay for.

THGRRI

Thursday, March 9, 2017 6:01 AM

I'm old school Jack. It's why I'm appalled. I post the same reasons for being appalled that Oon is speaking about. Yet you dismiss them all. I'm a centrist Jack.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."

The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?

This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.

Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.

Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?

I can appreciate that point of view O. Unfortunately we don't ever hear much from the Olde School left. It's drowned out by the new wave leftists' cry baby tantrums on a daily basis. It's hard to reject the President when conservatives can sit back and look at the MSM and how crazy the loud SJW left has been since the election and they get daily reminders of what we didn't get by voting Clinton in.

Like I said... their behavior is a better re-election advertisement than anything he could actually pay for.

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DREAMTROVE

Thursday, March 9, 2017 6:06 AM

depends on your def. of real liberal. not classical liberal. I'm pretty sure Trump is that. The other thing he is, is President of the United States. Jack is right. It did rub me the wrong, way, a little too derogatory. Like Bush or Chimp, or if someone had said that Obama was not a valid president because he was ... (oh anything, you know that no one would have gotten away with it) but it would have been wrong. Bush and Obama were terrible presidents because of their policies, not because they had big ears.

Props for the Boshe Moi comment. I'm sure that Putin think just that from time to time. Those exact two words. He's not jewish enough for Oy Vey.

ETA:

6,

?

JO753

Thursday, March 9, 2017 6:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:... and that their lives will work out just fine if only the government would leave them alone and let them ride their motorcycles without a helmet. In Texas, it is legal to ride without a helmet.

Peepl who ride motorsiklz without a helmet don't need a helmet.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

SECOND

Thursday, March 9, 2017 7:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Props for the Boshe Moi comment. I'm sure that Putin think just that from time to time. Those exact two words. He's not jewish enough for Oy Vey.

When I run the cartoon Putin’s Russian through google translate, I get “Oh my god!”
https://translate.google.com/#ru/en/%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%20%D0%BC%
D0%BE%D0%B9

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, March 9, 2017 7:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Russian through google translate, I get “Oh my god!”

Yes, Bozhe Moi is just "my god" obviously, but colloquially, it's oy vey. More like the way an American might say "Oh God" as in "here we go again." Common Russian expression, anyway.

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:48 AM

Whenever I did something really stupid, I could hear mom mutter under her breath Matko Bosko ("Mother of God"). For more extreme cases, like if you hit your finger with a hammer, psy krew i cholera ("dog's blood and cholera") would serve, but it flustered the nuns.

What I found interesting was that for as anti-Semitic as most Poles were "back in the day" a lot of Yiddish found its way into "kitchen Polish". If it was drizzling, for example, the weather was schmatzy (pronounced schmutzy in Yiddish/ German). A person who was ineffective was called a "putz", a real big a-hole was called a "schmuck".

Ahh... the past! I should tell you about duck blood soup someday. A very fond memory for me!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

JO753

Thursday, March 9, 2017 11:22 AM

All Scottish quezeen iz based on a dare.

Polish food iz mostly about dying uv a hart attack befor you hav to pay your det.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, March 9, 2017 11:45 AM

One of my uncles used to say "God Blessit!" whenever he'd get pissed off. I don't know where he got that one from. It's even funnier that he named the dog Satan and my grandparents kept the dog after he left home. Really was strange since they were old school religious and used to pray with the rosary every night after dinner when I was a kid.

JO753

Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:39 PM

The 2 wordz you commonly hear wen sumwun crashez in Russia are 'SQKo' and 'BLEoT'. I assume they are swearz uv sum hi level uv severity.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, March 9, 2017 4:15 PM

You're going to try to tell me Russian cuss words in Noalf? That's like speaking Klingon in Spanish :)

SECOND

Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:

Crashed, was in the hospital, people who visited said his head had swollen to twice the normal size, some couldn't look and left his room. He died days later, some said thankfully. Helmets is good.

I regret ever insinuating that Trump voters/Rush Limbaugh listeners ride for "Freedom!" which is why they are most of the motorcyclists riding without helmets. Turning back now to "Is Trump Nuts?" I have this:

A rule disqualifying anyone who said mean things about Trump during the campaign bars far too many people from staffing the administration. At the same time, Trump remains concerned about leaks and loyalty and doesn’t seem to want to drop the idea entirely. Consequently, nobody is exactly sure who they are allowed to put forward for what position or why.

Does this seem like Trump is nuts in his rules for running the government?

It is from an article "The White House is scrutinizing job candidates’ old social media posts for criticism of Trump". I read it. I'm convinced Trump is nuts.

The White House has important work to do, work far beyond making Trump look good, but kinks in Trump's personality prevent that work from getting done.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/9/14855140/trump-social-media-s
crutiny

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, March 9, 2017 8:36 PM

Please post links from a source that doesn't have the word Trump in the title of every one of their articles.

SECOND

Friday, March 10, 2017 12:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Please post links from a source that doesn't have the word Trump in the title of every one of their articles.

Can't do that because Trump's nuttiness (Remember this "Is Trump Nuts?") rubs off on everything he touches. For example of Trump being a murdering sociopath there is Women and Children in Yemeni Village Recall Horror of Trump’s “Highly Successful” SEAL Raid. You can read the article about the subtle differences between psychopath and sociopath after you read what Trump had done for his amusement and self-glorification in Yemen, but Trump is impulsive and doesn’t plan ahead
Can be prone to fighting and aggressiveness
Has little regard for the safety of others
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-
a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/

Nesma al Ameri, an elderly village matriarch who lost four family members in the raid, described how the attack helicopters began firing down on anything that moved. As she recounted the horror of what happened, Sinan tapped her on the arm. “No, no. The bullets were coming from behind,” the 5-year-old insisted, interrupting to demonstrate how he was shot at and his mother gunned down as they ran for their lives. “From here to here,” Sinan said, putting two fingers to the back of his head and drawing an invisible line to illustrate the direction of the bullet exiting her forehead. His mother fell to the ground next to him, still clutching his baby brother in her arms. Sinan kept running.

His mother’s body was found in the early light of dawn, the front of her head split open. The baby was wounded but alive. Sinan’s mother was one of at least six women killed in the raid, the first counterterrorism operation of the Trump administration, which also left 10 children under the age of 13 dead. “She was hit by the plane. The American plane,” explained Sinan. “She’s in heaven now,” he added with a shy smile, seemingly unaware of the enormity of what he had witnessed or, as yet, the impact of his loss. “Dog Trump,” declared Nesma, turning to the other women in the room for agreement. “Yes, the dog Trump,” they agreed.

According to White House press secretary Sean Spicer, the al Ghayil raid “was a very, very well thought out and executed effort.”

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/09/women-and-children-in-yemeni-villa
ge-recall-horror-of-trumps-highly-successful-seal-raid/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, March 10, 2017 5:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump Accuses Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower During Campaign

Donald Trump alleged in a tweet storm early Saturday that former President Barack Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower before his election victory.

Trump did not provide any evidence for the claims, which followed an interview on Fox News where the allegations came up.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" Trump wrote as part of a series of tweets Saturday morning.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-re
sidence-during-campaign-n729056

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61444&p=1#1
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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 10, 2017 6:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You're going to try to tell me Russian cuss words in Noalf? That's like speaking Klingon in Spanish :)
That is funny.

There's a name for that? I thought Jo was just a lolcat.
It doesn't help that somehow non-roman characters no longer appear.

Saghemos jos DalaDlaHamos, meanwhile, klingon in russian: https://kv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%
BD_%D0%BA%D1%8B%D0%B2

As for jo's russian, it's unrecoverable, I tried.
I think you have a secret code that can defeat ISIS.

ETA: Maybe Jo was trying to be Sscho Bliot (Blyut)= united bloc? Seems unlikely. i think the most common word in Russian is Svetlyak.

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, March 10, 2017 6:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Please post links from a source that doesn't have the word Trump in the title of every one of their articles.
Can't do that because Trump's nuttiness (Remember this "Is Trump Nuts?") rubs off on everything he touches.

It certainly seems to be rubbing off on you. Then again, I never had any sober conversations with you before Trump was elected, so I can't say if you were always insane or if that is a recent phenomena.

Get a hobby. Go outside and get some sun now that the weather is getting nicer. You spend far too much time working for that huge salary to be wasting your free time ranting about Trump to an audience of a dozen or so people.

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, March 10, 2017 6:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You're going to try to tell me Russian cuss words in Noalf? That's like speaking Klingon in Spanish :)
That is funny.
There's a name for that? I thought Jo was just a lolcat.
It doesn't help that somehow non-roman characters no longer appear.

Saghemos jos DalaDlaHamos, meanwhile, klingon in russian: https://kv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%
BD_%D0%BA%D1%8B%D0%B2

As for jo's russian, it's unrecoverable, I tried.
I think you have a secret code that can defeat ISIS.

ETA: Maybe Jo was trying to be Sscho Bliot (Blyut)= united bloc? Seems unlikely. i think the most common word in Russian is Svetlyak.

Check J0's campaign page. I'm sure there's a link to the language there. It actually is really interesting. I wasn't poking fun at it. He's also got a lot of advanced mathematical stuff that is way over my head. I'd be comfortable in saying that J0 probably is the smartest person on this board by a wide margin.

Still doesn't mean that I agree with a lot of his far left political ideals though.

DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 10, 2017 8:56 AM

I used to be smart, until they cured me of it. At the moment I can only be worried about being alive. Smart again, that will have to be at a later date.

Looking at Nooalf. I think Jo, you should talk to Haken about the unicode mishap. Thorn and eth etc are available chars. Diacriticals used in eastern europe are available as well. First though is that ng is not enngah except in rare instances like ingot, most of the time, it's ing, which spent most of its life as one character, and is one sound. I use j. Looks like you've assigned j, maybe "n" is not in use, in your LANGwej or (LAnwej)

Con lang is a hobby of mine as well. This is con-alf, I've done three myself, a script, a block letter and a stenotype method. But many quesitons remain. readability is an issue. Some people can scan thousands of words for minute, from eye to concept skipping the fenetix entirely. It might convey meaning if not sound, in a world where we all information is typed.

Then there's my brother's argument: why not write everything in Chinese? It's a valid question, and would save a lot of translation time. I have issues with that as well, but I figure that all issues can be worked out. Similarly with Korean, for SuMXin(g) MOR FeNeTiK, or Japanese, which has a lot of advantages.

I saw no math. I see some neat gagets. So I believe math was consulted. And Serenite, GuD

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, March 10, 2017 10:13 AM

About 5 years ago J0 and I were talking almost every night with Wish. I had started a thread about buying my house and the repairs I was making there and the three of us talked a lot in there. Somehow we found ourselves in the RWED and then I had my problems and they got to witness me basically drink myself to insanity.

I remember J0 showing me some math stuff he was working on and trying to explain it to me. My brain just doesn't work like that, unfortunately, so I couldn't keep up with him on that. Put me in charge of your accounting and taxes for your business and I'll have that ship running tip top, but ask me to design the ship for you and it will sink before it ever leaves the dock.

OONJERAH

Friday, March 10, 2017 11:00 AM

Me growing up: 2 parents, 1 grandparent & 5 kids.

Over the years, I saw that all of us were intelligent in our own ways.

Example: My Dad was genius level in math & mechanics. But socially, he
was a dork & couldn't spell for beans. He could draw very well.

My Mom was smarter about social matters & spelling, so she taught Dad
to look up the words in the dictionary. She never let herself see that he
was a dork.

My older sister was smart about most academic work, & had a knack for
computers, programming. In high school, tho, she had me proof read all
her homework, 'cause not only was her spelling poor, but she'd become
blind to her common errors.

I was smart academically, dumb socially, & very good at art work.

& So on: my younger sisters & brother all had different abilities.

Of the 8 of us, I know 4 of us have OCD.

I grew up believing that Intelligence is not just one thing, it's many
things. I think it's good to appreciate & develop our gifts, and not
worry too much about the things we don't grasp easily.

As for Sanity vs Insanity ... that's the emotional part of the brain, a
whole different department. But people who live primarily to serve their
egos indulging anger over objectivity ... will be Nuts.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

SECOND

Friday, March 10, 2017 5:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:

I never had any sober conversations with you before Trump was elected, so I can't say if you were always insane or if that is a recent phenomena. . . .

You're wasting your free time ranting about Trump to an audience of a dozen or so people.

No, no, I am totally nuts, while Trump is perfectly sane. I'm the nut talking to myself in public and you are unfortunately overhearing my mutterings and beginning to wonder if security guards should be called. But I've got another article about Trump's clever ways to make a straight forward massacre that he ordered look like a military success story:
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/09/new-evidence-contradicts-pentagons
-account-of-yemen-raid-but-general-closes-the-case/

The Pentagon’s top Middle East commander told Congress on Thursday that he found no signs of “poor decision-making or bad judgment” in a January raid in Yemen that killed 10 children and at least six women, as well as Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens.

“I made the determination that there was no need for an additional investigation into this particular operation,” said Gen. Joseph Votel. Votel was investigating his own role when he commented on his own decision-making and judgment. Who but himself would know more about himself and what a fine job he had done?

Earlier on Thursday, The Intercept published its own investigation of the raid based on eyewitnesses, including a 5-year-old who described how his mother was gunned down while trying to flee what other family members said was indiscriminate gunfire from a helicopter.

The White House has tried to shame the raid’s critics into silence. Last month, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told reporters “anyone who undermines the success of that raid owes an apology and does a disservice.” In a series tweets the next day, President Trump said criticism from Sen. John McCain, R.-Ariz., “emboldens the enemy.”

Media coverage has largely focused on Owens, the fallen Navy SEAL, and whether the raid produced intelligence — not on the massacre or village, which is now mostly abandoned.

After Owens’s father told Trump “not to hide behind my son’s death,” Trump invited the SEAL’s wife to the Capitol for his first joint address to Congress. Trump insisted the raid was a “massive success,” and was showered with praise by media pundits for paying tribute to the widow.

When I see the pictures of the town in Yemen I think of Jayne’s line “What are we hoping to find here that equals the worth of a turd?” Mal replies, “We are here to gather intelligence by seizing Al Qaeda electronics.” Then after, when they are counting their bags of loot, White House spokesman Sean Spicer says that the mission "gathered an unbelievable amount of intelligence that will prevent the potential deaths or attacks on American soil." He got that right when he said unbelievable. "When you have women and children killed, loss of (a) $70 million aircraft, you do not capture anyone as was part of the mission, that mission is not a success," said Arizona Sen. John McCain. Senator McCaskill also questioned the administration's claim that the raid yielded valuable information. "I think there have been mixed signals about the value of the intelligence that was gathered."
www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/general-votel-seal-raid-yemen-hearing/
index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, March 10, 2017 6:26 PM

One of the problems that I have with liberals in general is that they have convenient morals which are just as subject to "tribalism" as conservatives.

I see that SECOND is heartbroken about a woman's death ... which was no less tragic, no different than the women who died from Obama's drone strikes.

Quote:
Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.

Or, when you think about it, no less awful than the bombing which destroyed Libya (to cheers and applause from democracy-promoting liberals everywhere). If the key characteristic of being "nuts" is not recognizing reality, there are a lot of prizes on that score to be handed out.

Does this sound bitter? If course it does. The key flaw in liberal AND conservative thinking is the ability to give a "pass" to heinous activities when "your tribe" does it, as opposed to when "the other tribe" does it. Which is why nobody speaks up when THUGR is being a clearly-identified troll.

This mindless tribalism, which is a key propaganda point in everything from sports to politics, will be the death of us.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

SECOND

Friday, March 10, 2017 7:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I see that SECOND is heartbroken about a woman's death ... which was no less tragic, no different than the women who died from Obama's drone strikes.

Per your usual, Signym, you are understanding nothing. Why would I care when General Votel kills two dozen women and children on Trump’s orders, if Trump had good reasons? But Trump’s “reason”, while sitting down to dinner with guests, was to demonstrate to those guests how he would quickly solve terrorism when Obama could not. Trump totally failed and can’t admit failure since he is nuts. But he enjoyed the meal and impressed his guests for a few minutes. What more could Trump desire for that delightful evening in Florida when he approved the raid on Yemen?

What I do care about is General Votel found no signs of “poor decision-making or bad judgment” after he investigated himself. That was very convenient for Votel. Too convenient. The whole system of correcting errors must be completely broken when people and Signym accept when General Votel says Votel did no wrong. It is the same old crazy nonsense when President Trump says Trump did no wrong after Trump looks at his own actions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:10 AM

Right now this country has Bannon and Trump trying to bring down and circumvent all of our democratic institutions. That leaves a completely unchecked president calling all the shots. It's called a dictatorship. Most recently, today, our State Department was unware a Mexican government dignitary is in this country. They had not been informed. Normally, not only would they help plan the visit, they would attend the meeting. By excluding them Trump and Bannon are enabled to consolidate power. That is the unarguable reason why Trump should not be president. Either he is clueless as to how this country works, or he just plan wants to destroy it. Take your pick, they are both disqualifiers.

And SIG defending him disqualifies her perspective as well.

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THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Trump has gutted the State Dept. either through incompetence, being just too darn busy to staff it, or a gift to Putin perhaps.

It's to push Bannons' agenda of bringing down the government.

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THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:29 AM

On foreign affairs, Trump's role unclear and Tillerson's influence curbed

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/on-foreign-affairs-trumps-role-unclear-and
-tillersons-influence-curbed/

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THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:43 AM

It was just revealed that Michael Flynn was working as a foreign agent during the campaign, and while in Trumps cabinet as national security advisor. A guy who led the chant against Hilary, to lock her up.

Remember Trump saying Flynn was set up?

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SECOND

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
On foreign affairs, Trump's role unclear and Tillerson's influence curbed.

Let's jump back into the territory of Trump being mentally ill. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan was only a little devious about his goals for healthcare; he is not mentally ill. On the other hand, Trump is betraying every promise he ever made on that subject by endorsing Ryan's plan.

Trump’s embrace of the American Health Care Act, authored by Paul Ryan and other House Republicans seemingly in collaboration with establishment-minded members of his administration, represents a massive betrayal of his own clear and repeated promises to the American people. It would be a mistake to simply gloss over this breach of faith.

Trump’s false embrace of more centrist positions on health care and retirement security was a crucial aspect of his campaign, and there was enough campaign-season tension between Trump and the GOP leadership that a voter could be forgiven for assuming Trump meant what he was saying. He did not because he is nuts.

Trump ran and won promising to cover everyone, avoid Medicaid cuts, and boost funding for opioid abuse treatment. He is now lobbying Congress to pass a bill that does none of those things. Instead, millions will lose insurance and Medicaid spending will be sacrificed on the altar of tax cuts for the rich.

It’s not a surprising result, but in many ways it is a shocking one.

You can get the details of Trump's huge betrayal of his campaign promises and of the voters who believed in Trump here: www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/10/14881200/trump-health-care-p
romises

"Constantly lies and deceives others" is one trait found in sociopaths. I'm just suggesting what is wrong with Trump. I can't prove it without medically attaching electrodes to his scalp and zapping the hell out of his brain.
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-
a-psychopath-vs-sociopath

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:58 AM

2nd, 6,

Also IIRC Bush admin was able to keep a lid on the torture scandal long enough. People reading the muslim news knew that something was amiss, but most americans were gulping down that MSM.

Obama, also, a semi-friendly media helps. When he was re-elected, the only continents we weren't at war in were Australia and Antarctica.

I figure there's going to be a lot of money thrown at and against Trump from all sides. More wherever the oil is.

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:05 AM

When Trump was elected, I was, "This is so strange; it can't be happening."
I was simply embarrassed by him. We, the people, had to be crazy to elect him.

A neighbor justified it to me, "Trump's a billionaire. He knows how to balance the budget."

But ... we have an impeachment thread on this board. Maybe the answer is there.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

SECOND

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
When Trump was elected, I was, "This is so strange; it can't be happening."
I was simply embarrassed by him. We, the people, had to be crazy to elect him.

A neighbor justified it to me, "Trump's a billionaire. He knows how to balance the budget."

But ... we have an impeachment thread on this board. Maybe the answer is there.

The answer is very straight forward:

Comey Elected Trump
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/03/say-it-me-again-james-comey-ele
cted-donald-trump-president

Engagement Labs is a company that tracks "what people are talking about." Brad Fay, one of their executives, tells us that during the presidential campaign people were talking very negatively about everyone. They were more negative about Donald Trump, but they were plenty negative about Hillary Clinton too. However, the gap between the candidates changed from time to time based on external events:

"Most decisively, there was a sudden change in the net sentiment results that followed immediately after FBI Director James Comey released his Oct. 28 letter to Congress about a renewed investigation of Clinton emails. Immediately afterwards, there was a 17-point drop in net sentiment for Clinton, and an 11-point rise for Trump, enough for the two candidates to switch places in the rankings, with Clinton in more negative territory than Trump. At a time when opinion polling showed perhaps a 2-point decline in the margin for Clinton, this conversation data suggests a 28-point change in the word of mouth “standings.” The change in word of mouth favorability metric was stunning, and much greater than the traditional opinion polling revealed."

Of course, a picture is worth a thousand words:

In late October, Clinton leads Trump by 24 points in the Engagement Labs survey. Two days after the Comey letter is released, Trump is ahead by four points. Trump kept that lead until Election Day.

Once again: Hillary Clinton did nothing particularly wrong in her campaign. She didn't ignore working-class whites. She wasn't too cautious on policy. She didn't overestimate the impact of educated voters. She wasn't complacent. What happened was simple: 12 days before the election, the FBI director released a letter saying he had found a brand-new trove of emails and implying that this might finally be the smoking gun about her private email server. That's it.

We'll never know for sure if James Comey did this because he's terminally stupid and didn't realize what impact it would have, or if he did it knowing full well what impact it would have. But he did it. And that's why Donald Trump is president.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:

Once again: Hillary Clinton did nothing particularly wrong in her campaign. She didn't ignore working-class whites. She wasn't too cautious on policy. She didn't overestimate the impact of educated voters. She wasn't complacent. What happened was simple: 12 days before the election, the FBI director released a letter saying he had found a brand-new trove of emails and implying that this might finally be the smoking gun about her private email server. That's it.

Srsly? I thought it was a disaster. She could have reached out to Sanders, and his supporters, or taken an actual stand on any issue, defended her record instead of endlessly saying on camera that she didn't say the things that she had earlier also said on camera. That struck me as a pre-information age level of stupid. She didn't really campaign in blue states. I think she thought Smartmatic was going to hand it to her.

Hillary was senator-not-from-here in New York. She had a residence she had never been to. The only night in her life she spent in New York was when she was stuck on a layover. The democratic party machine delivered her unto us, so it was personally embarrassing to see her name and New York written there, as she talked about all of the dumb neocon warmongering she wanted to do as Senator. I thought she was a disaster as Senator and as Secretary of State.

If dems don't like Sanders, fine, give us Elizabeth Warren. But don't pretend HRC isn't what she is. because people aren't fooled. That's why she lost. Because she's basically George W. Bush.

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:26 AM

Hillary may be awful ...

But Trump is much worse.

He was well-known from TV; means Americans are really this stupid!

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Hillary may be awful ...

But Trump is much worse.

He was well-known from TV; means Americans are really this stupid!

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

For many Trump voters it was simply a matter of economics, and for others, pay back. He did win though because Hilary was awful and the democrats stopped speaking to the white working class many years ago.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You're going to try to tell me Russian cuss words in Noalf? That's like speaking Klingon in Spanish :)
That is funny.
There's a name for that? I thought Jo was just a lolcat.
It doesn't help that somehow non-roman characters no longer appear.

Saghemos jos DalaDlaHamos, meanwhile, klingon in russian: https://kv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%
BD_%D0%BA%D1%8B%D0%B2

As for jo's russian, it's unrecoverable, I tried.
I think you have a secret code that can defeat ISIS.

ETA: Maybe Jo was trying to be Sscho Bliot (Blyut)= united bloc? Seems unlikely. i think the most common word in Russian is Svetlyak.

You have exposed the fact that his signature no longer carries the noalf.com address.
I had not noticed.

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:09 AM

According to Aunt Alice who read about these things, Joe Kennedy was a monster,
sorta like Trump, but smarter if not richer.

We elected his son, John F. Kennedy president; he was one of the most popular
presidents ever; even many Republicans liked him.

So he got shot. They say we all remember where we were & what we were
doing when we heard of it. I know I do.

Bobby Kennedy came up to bat. He got shot, too. No coincidence; an
inside job.

If Joe was as bad as my Aunt said he was, were John & Bobby as
wonderful as we wanted to believe they were? NM the sex scandals;
I'm just concerned with their politics.

The thing is, they were pretty. John & Jackie were glamerous like
movies stars, and we fell for that.

My conclusion: Americans have been childishly gullible about politicians
ever since I was a kid. It might take some real hard times to wise us up.

If Trump is crazy, those who elected him are crazier.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

You have exposed the fact that his signature no longer carries the noalf.com address.
I had not noticed.

I think it's nooalf. maybe it was noalf, but there have been some changes, I see.

THGRRI

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:11 AM

I just watched a documentary on Joe the son during WW11. He volunteered to take off with a plane full of explosives and then when airborne jump out. Then the plane was to be piloted remotely. It was supposed to take out a large gun emplacement in France that was actually reaching England. Well, the plane exploded. Instead they invented the first bunker busting bomb. Guess what, it worked.

His father had said publicly he son Joe was going to be president. Apparently one dead son wasn't going to deter him.

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
According to Aunt Alice who read about these things, Joe Kennedy was a monster,
sorta like Trump, but smarter if not richer.

We elected his son, John F. Kennedy president; he was one of the most popular
presidents ever; even many Republicans liked him.

So he got shot. They say we all remember where we were & what we were
doing when we heard of it. I know I do.

Bobby Kennedy came up to bat. He got shot, too. No coincidence; an
inside job.

If Joe was as bad as my Aunt said he was, were John & Bobby as
wonderful as we wanted to believe they were? NM the sex scandals;
I'm just concerned with their politics.

The thing is, they were pretty. John & Jackie were glamerous like
movies stars, and we fell for that.

My conclusion: Americans have been childishly gullible about politicians
ever since I was a kid. It might take some real hard times to wise us up.

If Trump is crazy, those who elected him are crazier.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Once again: Hillary Clinton did nothing particularly wrong in her campaign. She didn't ignore working-class whites. She wasn't too cautious on policy. She didn't overestimate the impact of educated voters. She wasn't complacent. What happened was simple: 12 days before the election, the FBI director released a letter saying he had found a brand-new trove of emails and implying that this might finally be the smoking gun about her private email server. That's it.

Before the election, Comey said that there was no new evidence and they would not be going forward with criminal charges. If anything, this would have garnered sympathy for her.

Clinton lost the election when she did her "Basket of Deplorables" speech. I truly believe if she never went there that this would have ended a lot differently.

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
If Trump is crazy, those who elected him are crazier.

If we take the definition of insanity as trying the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result, than voting for Clinton on so many different levels was the insane choice.

Those who voted for him may agree that it was a mistake in the future, but it was not the insane choice, at least by the textbook definition.

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:00 PM

Quote:
If Trump is crazy, those who elected him are crazier.-OONJ

See? This is the problem right here: tribalism.

My side versus your side, and nobody caring whether or not if what they're saying is true, or just alienating. SECOND is a MASTER of dehumanization and alienation. That seems to be her whole purpose here: She just throws shit against a wall to see what sticks, no matter if it's a lie or unimportant, to make "the other side" sound completely whacked and inhuman. WIN BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. What does that say about how she sees "the other side"? Not worthy of consideration?

OONJ, if Hillary had won, I'm sure that we would be on-track to be signed, sealed and delivered to the free trade tribunals.

Quite possibly we would be bombing Syrian troops directly, and even a hair's-breadth from war with Russia (which G and THUGR seem to want so desperately). I would be beside myself with fear, and feeling an awful dread about what was going to happen next, wondering just how under the boot heel were were about to be.

But I would HOPE that I would have more decency than to say that all Hillary voters were "crazy".

I know why people voted for her, and while I don't agree with those reasons I know that people DO have their reasons. If we could just TALK about those reasons and start to reach some common understanding of what it is that we all need, and start to reach a consensus about how to get there, we might just prevent this society from tearing itself apart.

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Back in the day, I used to go after conservatives with a hammer and tong. The board would divide up between two sides, and go after each other for all we were worth. There was a very long thread about "dehumanization" ... and how it was the first step to civil war, massacres, and ethnic cleansing. I'm sorry to say that I participated in that dehumanization, and I'm sorry to see it continuing.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:54 PM

Me & most of the people I spoke to about it
Did Not want to vote for Trump or Clinton ...
We said, "It's 2 bad choices. What are we gonna do?
A write-in? That's like throwing your vote away."

A friend of mine explained why the Republicans
nominated Trump; it sounded like a strange religious
fantasy. He didn't tell me why the Democrats ran with
Hillary.

But for me, politically, we've stepped into the Twilight Zone.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:16 PM

I'm sure there were a lot of different reasons that people voted for Hillary.

That's one of the problems that you mention right there. Voting for Turmp wasn't anything close to a religious experience for me. I'll bet there were others that felt that way about it though. I will admit that it was the first time that I actually wanted to vote for a president rather than just voting against the other guy though.

Everyone picks their "side" and assumes that everyone who voted for their guy agrees with everything they think and everyone who voted for the other guy stands against everything they believe. The left this time, which I blame a lot of this on Hillary's deplorables speech, has a lot of hate in their heart for anyone who voted for Trump and has become a bunch of the rudest people you've ever known.

That's a generalization, of course. I think a majority of those who voted for Clinton are normal people who have gotten on with their lives and hope things go well the next 4 years.

But all you ever hear from is the very loud and very rude vocal minority.

JO753

Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:06 PM

I know several peepl in RL who are rabid Trump fanz. The odd thing iz that they arent much alike otherwize. A few are clearly gulliblez, wun iz a reazonably capable enjineer. Another iz a natural born salezman, so I am constantly suprized that he fallz for Trumps BS.

The common factorz are they all get their info frum the rite wing eko chamber. And uv course, they all hate Obama, deny they watch Fox Newz, deny being Republicanz.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:26 PM

Maybe it's not bullshit. Maybe it is. No single president has been so hated by the MSM and hounded like Trump before. I'm sure people were complaining about Obama from day one, but we were all so sick of how bad things were under GWB that most people weren't. By the time he got re-elected I was really disappointed that people would have voted him back in, but jesus this is just crazy.

Why do you feel the need to insult people who supported Trump J0? You're being rude.

Your buddy is an engineer. He's obviously not stupid.

Give the fucking prez a chance to do good or to screw things up, and don't be so quick to judge people that don't jump on the Trump hate train. Especially your friends.

SECOND

Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:

Give the fucking prez a chance to do good or to screw things up, and don't be so quick to judge people that don't jump on the Trump hate train. Especially your friends.

Trump needs to get more self-control right now, this very day, not some months into his term. His lack of self-control is why he is being mocked and harassed by the press. At this time last week Trump wrote that Obama had committed a crime worse than Watergate. And he wrote it without following it with any proof in writing. That is a lack of self-control that Trump could not wait for the proof before he made his accusations of major felony. Why is Trump in such a hurry that he can't wait? Is he trying to screw-up?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837996746236182529

To add another example of Trump's lack of self-control: Trump has embraced the American Health Care Act, authored by Paul Ryan and other House Republicans. This represents a massive betrayal of his own clear and repeated promises to the American people. This is a huge screw-up by Trump. Has he lost his mind? He better find it real quick.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/10/14881200/trump-health-care-p
romises

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:23 PM

I will agree that his wife should take away his Tweeting privileges.

SECOND

Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
I will agree that his wife should take away his Tweeting privileges.

How about the part where Trump betrays his promise for a replacement that is better than Obamacare? What do you take away from Trump so he stops acting crazy and starts acting like he will keep his promise?

You might not care what Trump does for a better replacement for Obamacare because you're healthy and you might not have noticed that the replacement is worse than Obamacare because Trump keeps saying it is better, but it is flat crazy for Trump to sell his replacement plan with lies. He is guaranteed to get caught once his latest plan goes into effect a year or two from now, assuming it passes. Maybe by then Trump will disavow what he is doing now, but he still is crazy. I assume he is depending on his voters not to understand how he cheated them out of what he promised.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/10/14881200/trump-health-care-p
romises

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 11, 2017 10:28 PM

Ignore

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 11, 2017 10:52 PM

I think you need to make a distinction between "Trump voter" versus "Trump supporter".

All of the people that I know who voted for Trump, including myself, voted for Trump on limited grounds, not because of global support for Trump or belief in all of his promises. The people that I know who voted for Trump are university-educated technical people who are for the most part immigrants, half of whom are women. I don't think they qualify as "crazy deplorables", just like Hillary voters aren't all "crazy libtards".

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6STRINGJOKER

Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
You might not care what Trump does for a better replacement for Obamacare because you're healthy...

No. I am not healthy.

SIGNYM

Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:09 AM

Who says I, or we, don't care? I've been deeply and personally interested in health care because of our dd's disabling condition. Which is why Obamacare was such a disappointment.

Hey, I've gone online for insurance for dd, and Obamacare is just wildly expensive. I was doubtful that Obamacare would work, but I was willing to let it play out. Now I know for sure that we need something else. Not the Paul Ryan plan.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, March 12, 2017 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You're going to try to tell me Russian cuss words in Noalf? That's like speaking Klingon in Spanish :)
That is funny.
There's a name for that? I thought Jo was just a lolcat.
It doesn't help that somehow non-roman characters no longer appear.

Saghemos jos DalaDlaHamos, meanwhile, klingon in russian: https://kv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%
BD_%D0%BA%D1%8B%D0%B2

As for jo's russian, it's unrecoverable, I tried.
I think you have a secret code that can defeat ISIS.

ETA: Maybe Jo was trying to be Sscho Bliot (Blyut)= united bloc? Seems unlikely. i think the most common word in Russian is Svetlyak.

You have exposed the fact that his signature no longer carries the noalf.com address.
I had not noticed.

Ooops. I misspelled the foreign language word.
It was nooalf.com
And it is still there. The nooalf site.

JO753

Sunday, March 12, 2017 3:30 AM

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Why do you feel the need to insult people who supported Trump J0? You're being rude.

I wuz toying with the idea uv calling my campane "Shut Up Stupid!".

A big part uv how the GoPs hav gotten away with so much nonsens iz the run amok PC 'movement' attributed to liberal/progressiv/democrats.

If you cant call out blatant liez due to sum social taboo agenst anything that coud be construed az being impolite, idiots will flourish.

Trump iz proof uv that.

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