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THGRRI

Thursday, June 8, 2017 12:15 AM (P)

Can you say fraud? Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

The Hill

John Bowden

Trump Foundation funneled $100K in donations into revenue for Trump Organization: report

President Trump's charity foundation funneled $100,000 in donations meant for St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital into revenue for the Trump Organization by using his son's charity, Forbes reported Tuesday.

For 10 years Eric Trump hosted an annual golf tournament which raised millions of dollars in donations for the hospital. According to the Forbes report, $100,000 of the donations was funneled through the Eric Trump Foundation back into Trump's golf courses for expenses incurred during the tournaments, despite donors being told that all their money would be used for charity.

In addition, more than $500,000 of donors' money over 10 years was re-donated to other charities, including some that were connected to Trump family members. At least four of those organizations also used Trump golf courses for charity tournaments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-foundation-funneled-dollar100k
-in-donations-into-revenue-for-trump-organization-report/ar-BBCaVP7?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=BHEA000

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Can you say fraud? Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Ever heard of the Clinton Crime Family Foundation? Pretty much the definition of fraud.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:36 AM (P)

House Democrats battle behind the scenes over impeachment
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/337572-pelosi-dems-push-back-against
-sherman-impeachment-push

Poll:
In May 2017, for the first time more Americans supported impeaching
Trump (48%) than opposed impeaching Trump (41%), with 11% not sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Donald_Trump

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6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:44 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:

House Democrats battle behind the scenes over impeachment
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/337572-pelosi-dems-push-back-against
-sherman-impeachment-push

Poll:
In May 2017, for the first time more Americans supported impeaching
Trump (48%) than opposed impeaching Trump (41%), with 11% not sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Donald_Trump

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I don't know if I would trust Wikipedia for current polling data lol. I have an account that I could sign in right now and mess with that.

I support Impeaching Trump. I have for about a month now. I don't think he did anything wrong, but I don't want to hear about it anymore. Just impeach him and get to the bottom of it.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:32 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I support Impeaching Trump. I have for about a month now. I don't think he did anything wrong, but I don't want to hear about it anymore. Just impeach him and get to the bottom of it.

He's Awful!. Super non-presidential.
The Republicans did us wrong by running him.

The Democrats did us wrong by running Clinton.

Maybe the whole country has gone Looney-Toons.

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OONJERAH

Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:03 PM (P)

Nearly 200 Democratic lawmakers sue Trump citing business conflicts
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/06/14/nearly-200-lawmakers-su
e-trump-citing-business-conflicts/102830002/

Nearly 200 Democratic members of Congress filed a lawsuit against
President Trump on Wednesday morning alleging that his continued
ties to his business empire violate the U.S. Constitution.

The unprecedented legal action accuses Trump of violating the
Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution ...

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6STRINGJOKER

Thursday, June 15, 2017 6:28 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I support Impeaching Trump. I have for about a month now. I don't think he did anything wrong, but I don't want to hear about it anymore. Just impeach him and get to the bottom of it.

He's Awful!. Super non-presidential.
The Republicans did us wrong by running him.

The Democrats did us wrong by running Clinton.

Maybe the whole country has gone Looney-Toons.

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I think the whole country has gone Looney-Tunes.

I do respect your opinions on the matter though since you manage too keep your cool and you do admit things like running Clinton was a terrible choice.

I think that that and many other things the Democrats have done are just as culpable for Trump's victory as anybody who voted for Trump is.

Let's hear some real reasons why Trump is a bad president. Like I said, I feel uncomfortable actually siding with the administration since it is not a place I've ever been in before.

To date though, the only things I've heard coming from the Left against Trump amount to little more than this:

I don't agree with whoever made the video and the crappy things they're saying about the 10 year old kid. He's a kid. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm just saying that many adults that have a problem with Trump today sound like this 10 year old kid.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, June 16, 2017 6:07 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
He's Awful!. Super non-presidential.
The Republicans did us wrong by running him.

The Democrats did us wrong by running Clinton.

Maybe the whole country has gone Looney-Toons.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and definitely yes.

I would add that the Republicans disgraced us all by running 17 frauds, fakes, phonies and losers. At least the Dems only ran one.

Which One?
Sanders?
O'Malley?
Who?

THGRRI

Saturday, June 17, 2017 12:26 AM (P)

Stupid is as stupid does JS. Your logic suggests Trump can do whatever he wants. Break any laws he choses because fools like you can't sort out what Trump does from what the Clintons did. I shouldn't have to inform an adult of this but apparently in your case, as with others here, I must.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Can you say fraud? Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
Ever heard of the Clinton Crime Family Foundation? Pretty much the definition of fraud.

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:58 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I shouldn't have to inform an adult of this but apparently in your case, as with others here, I must.

Nobody here that respects themselves respects your opinion on anything T. Not one single person.

THGRRI

Saturday, June 17, 2017 2:25 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
I shouldn't have to inform an adult of this but apparently in your case, as with others here, I must.

Nobody here that respects themselves respects your opinion on anything T. Not one single person.

It’s better to be alone than to be in bad company.

JO753

Saturday, June 17, 2017 3:55 AM (P)

I'm a singl person hoo respects himself and I respect THGRRI'z opinion on everything.

Its peeps hoo boldly state they do not read or lissen to real journalists or reporterz and yet still hav a strong opinion hoo looz my respect.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:34 AM (P)

I said person. Not cyborg.

THGRRI

Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:14 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
I'm a singl person hoo respects himself and I respect THGRRI'z opinion on everything.

Its peeps hoo boldly state they do not read or lissen to real journalists or reporterz and yet still hav a strong opinion hoo looz my respect.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com]

Thank you for that

THGRRI

Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:15 PM (P)

Paul Manafort retroactively registers with Justice Dept. as foreign agent

Manafort is the second member of the Trump campaign to register as a foreign agent. In March, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn registered with the Justice Department for work his consulting firm performed for a Turkish businessman that he said could have aided the Turkish government.

Both registrations came after the work had been completed. Under federal law, people who represent foreign political interests and seek to influence U.S. public opinion and policy are required to register with the Justice Department before they perform any work. Manafort's registration comes more than three years after he completed his work.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-retroactively-registers-just
ice-department-foreign-agent/

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:24 PM (P)

Sounds to me like getting a permit for doing work on your house.

THGRRI

Friday, June 30, 2017 7:17 PM (P)

GOP Operative Sought Clinton Emails From Hackers, Implied a Connection to Flynn

Republican who said he was working with Michael Flynn tried to get Hillary Clinton emails from hackers

A Republican operative who said he was working with former Trump campaign adviser Michael Flynn tried to obtain Hillary Clinton’s emails from hackers, according to a report.

Emails from before the 2016 presidential election show that Peter Smith and his associates treated the future National Security adviser and his company as “allies” in their search, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

Smith, a private equity financier, died at 81 on May 14, according to a Chicago-area obituary.

The Journal reported that it spoke to him 10 days before his death, when he said he knew Flynn but never stated that Flynn was involved in his email plan that began around Labor Day 2016.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/republican-claimed-flynn-tie-cli
nton-emails-article-1.3289348

Peter W. Smith portrayed the former general as an ally in an effort, independent of the Trump campaign, to find personal emails deleted by Hillary Clinton

WASHINGTON—Before the 2016 presidential election, a longtime Republican opposition researcher mounted an independent campaign to obtain emails he believed were stolen from Hillary Clinton’s private server, likely by Russian hackers.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-operative-sought-clinton-emails-from-
hackers-implied-a-connection-to-flynn-1498770851

OONJERAH

Saturday, July 1, 2017 12:53 PM (P)

Daily News, Humiliation, June 30

Eagle hangs head in shame over Trump tweets on 'Daily News' cover
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/06/29/new
-york-daily-news-trump-eagle-cover/441352001/

also: Trump is Not Well
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-is-not-well/2017/
06/30/97759ee0-5d0f-11e7-9b7d-14576dc0f39d_story.html?utm_term=.9687d8fc457a

Me, I'm hoping for impeachment sooner than later.

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6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, July 1, 2017 2:16 PM (P)

lol

Trolling the clowns on Morning Joe

THGRRI

Saturday, July 1, 2017 7:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
lol

Trolling the clowns on Morning Joe

Joe Scarborough is a conservative Republican. A real one. It doesn't surprise me you don't know that, because you don't know much about anything.

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, July 1, 2017 11:53 PM (P)

lol

I know that dipshit.

I see what happened here. I said "clown" and you equated that with liberal idiot. That's an understandable mistake.

Pretending to be a Conservative, or even flat out being a Conservative doesn't preclude you from being a clown.

Mika and Joe are the lovely people who said that it was their job to tell the people what to think.

I thought Mika was just on the rag when she said it. Maybe she was out of sorts from bleeding from the face after the botched facelift?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:37 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Can you say fraud? Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
Ever heard of the Clinton Crime Family Foundation? Pretty much the definition of fraud.
Stupid is as stupid does JS. Your logic suggests Trump can do whatever he wants. Break any laws he choses because fools like you can't sort out what Trump does from what the Clintons did. I shouldn't have to inform an adult of this but apparently in your case, as with others here, I must.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Golly Gee whiz. $100,000 of contributions from the wealthy with Trump compared to the dozens of millions from poor and needy with the Clintons. How blind must one be to consider those to be of equal value, or even comparable merit?

THGRRI

Monday, July 3, 2017 2:11 AM (P)

'I was recruited to collude with the Russians': An unexpected player has added a new layer to the Trump campaign's Russia ties

Hackers believed to be Russian discussed how to steal Hillary Clinton's emails from her private server and transfer them to Michael Flynn via an intermediary, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday, citing reports compiled by US intelligence agencies investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

One of those intermediaries, according to The Journal, may have been a GOP operative named Peter Smith — an 80-year-old opposition researcher who assembled a team of technology experts, lawyers and a Russian-speaking investigator in September to track down hacking groups with access to the 33,000 emails Clinton deleted from her private server that she said were personal in nature.

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-trump-campaign-collusion-matt-ta
it-peter-smith-2017-7

OONJERAH

Monday, July 3, 2017 7:56 AM (P)

Apparently, the 4th of July is inspiring Americans to protest Trump.
This is how it should be. ~Oonj

Thousands march in L.A. for impeachment of President Trump;
his supporters hold their own rally

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-impeachment-march-20170702
-story.html

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1KIKI

Monday, July 3, 2017 9:01 AM (P)

Yeah. Let's impeach Trump and get republican Pence in lockstep with the republican congress so they can steamroll over the country even more effectively than Trump plus the congress can now. Great plan.

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, July 3, 2017 7:04 PM (P)

Don't be a coward. Put it up now.

I like my neighborhood. Nobody polluted up the block with any campaign signs during the election. It's nice not knowing who anybody around me supported.

SECOND

Monday, July 3, 2017 10:45 PM (P)

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump remarked that once in the White House, he’d never see his golf courses again — because “I want to stay in the White House and work my ass off.”

In reality, Trump has spent 35 days at a golf property since taking office, according to NBC News. That amounts to more than 21 percent of his 164 days as president so far.

The New York Times also previously found that as of April, Trump had spent much more time at the golf course than his predecessors. By April 28, Trump had spent 19 days at the golf course. In comparison, Barack Obama had spent one day at the same point in his presidency, George W. Bush had spent zero, and Bill Clinton had spent five.

I sense a gap between voters' more reasonable expectations and Trump's actual performance, both on and off the golf course.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, July 3, 2017 11:43 PM (P)

By the way....

Remind me how those guerrilla marketing firefly campaigns worked out for us again?

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:52 AM (P)

Justice Department's Corporate Crime Watchdog Resigns, Saying Trump Makes It Impossible To Do Job

Chen wrote. “To sit across the table from companies and question how committed they were to ethics and compliance felt not only hypocritical, but very much like shuffling the deck chair on the Titanic. Even as I engaged in those questioning and evaluations, on my mind were the numerous lawsuits pending against the President of the United States for everything from violations of the Constitution to conflict of interest, the ongoing investigations of potentially treasonous conducts, and the investigators and prosecutors fired for their pursuits of principles and facts. Those are conducts I would not tolerate seeing in a company, yet I worked under an administration that engaged in exactly those conduct. I wanted no more part in it.”

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/justice-departments-corporate
-crime-watchdog-resigns-saying-trump-makes-it

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 1:03 AM (P)

That's good. Nice move, Chen.

Assuming that you are the virtuous person you believe yourself to be, and that Trump is everything the opposite of that, what we need right now is good men like you voluntarily leaving the front lines so they can sleep at night.

That'll teach Trump.

You're going to be replaced by this time next week with somebody who would make all of the opposite choices you would have made.

Sleep tight.

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 2:18 AM (P)

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 4:01 AM (P)

And that changes anything I just said how?

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 5:13 AM (P)

Could be out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I suggest another maxim: look before you leap.

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

OONJERAH

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:00 AM (P)

The Fire, you say?

My friend Tim has always loved politics & knows a lot about it.
As I have hoped to be rid of Trump even as he was inaugurated,
he warned me that things could be worse. Not only our VP but
quite a few Republican congressmen are "born again Christian
fanatics" who would be elated to see Armageddon come about.

While I've pushed that thought away, it is true: America has
the military might to create Armageddon.

So yes ... be careful what I wish for.

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THGRRI

Tuesday, July 4, 2017 7:45 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
And that changes anything I just said how?

It shows you did what you always do. Lash out at a criticism of Trump without reading the article so you can fully appreciate why she did what she did. In other words, you dismissed her opinion without even hearing it. You can't possibly know if she is right or wrong without reading the article. It's typical behavior for you Jack.

THGRRI

Friday, July 7, 2017 10:22 PM (P)

Here you go Jack another one leaves because of Trumps lack of ethics. Another one you can blow off just because he is criticizing Trump.

Office of Government Ethics Director Walter Shaub Resigns

Shaub leaving post six months early, often tangled with President Donald Trump over ethics issues

Office of Government Ethics Director Walter Shaub said Thursday he plans to resign later this month, ending a tenure that was marked by frequent tangles with the Trump administration.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/office-of-government-ethics-director-walt
er-shaub-resigns-1499361406

REAVERFAN

Friday, July 7, 2017 11:09 PM (P)

The fascism continues:

The Trump regime’s war on a free press is intensifying. After days spent attacking CNN and MSNBC, Trump tweeted a video of professional wrestling edited to appear as if Trump were beating up a person with CNN’s logo on their head.1

It would seem merely unhinged and juvenile if the Trump administration were not backing tweets up with dangerous policy. Trump has refused to hold press conferences and broken precedent to refuse press questions. The goal appears to be insulating the regime from all questions – except those from the propagandists at FOX News.2

In an ominous move, the White House has even banned reporters from recording or broadcasting some press conferences. In response, some journalists are suggesting that reporters should join together to keep rolling their phone cameras and record press briefings anyway.3 We need to echo this call and make it clear that Americans of all stripes are relying on journalists to defy the White House and bring press briefings to the public.

Without recordings, the White House can lie with impunity and then lie about their lies. Turning on the cameras and audio recorders does not mean giving the White House free publicity or broadcasting the daily briefings live. It is about resisting the Trump administration’s across-the-board efforts to limit press access, intimidate or threaten a free press, and deny the American people information about what our government is doing. Instead, reporters should turn on the cameras and audio recorders and see what lengths the White House is willing to go to in order to hide its agenda.

During the campaign, Trump deliberately targeted journalists for abuse and fostered an environment of intimidation. He mocked one disabled reporter. He has repeatedly denounced CNN simply for not following FOX News and acting like a state-run news agency.4 His whining and attacks have continued to this day. Trump recently interrupted remarks at an event honoring veterans to complain about the press.5 His Twitter feud with MSNBC hosts and his tweets declaring CNN “fake news” are just the latest step. But make no mistake: the problem is bigger than just Trump.

A few weeks ago, a Republican congressional candidate physically assaulted a reporter for asking questions about health care.6 Mitch McConnell has been trying, entirely in secret with no press access, to make laws that would kill thousands and leave 22 million without health care. White House staffers including Sean Spicer and Sarah Huckabee Sanders have, from day one, stymied, mislead, attacked, blamed, demeaned and outright lied to journalists attempting to shed light on their agenda.7 Now, they want to rob reporters of a valuable tool to hold them accountable.

Corporate executives at major media outlets like NBC have promoted and handed a platform to Trump.8 MSNBC has pushed out Black, Brown and progressive voices and embarked on a white conservative hiring spree.9 Cable news gave endless airtime to Trump throughout his campaign and are reaping the consequences. The problem is that, with some exceptions, journalists who do the actual reporting simply want to get the truth out there and are facing incredible barriers and even death threats as a result. CREDO will continue to hold corporate media companies accountable while defending the rights of journalists to do their jobs.

Republicans laid the groundwork with decades spent attacking non-partisan media as biased. But Trump has pushed outright hostility in an attempt to gain and increase his own power. Press freedom under Trump is no partisan issue but a simple matter of whether the Constitution and American democracy will thrive under an administration determined to trample it.

References:

Michael Grynbaum, “Trump Tweets a Video of Him Wrestling ‘CNN’ to the Ground,” The New York Times, July 2, 2017.
Will Bunch, “Democracy dies in darkness, so please turn on the freakin' camera lights!” The Philadelphia Inquirer, June 26, 2017.
Ibid.
Ibid.
Esme Cribb, “Trump Continues Tirade Against Press At Eve

6STRINGJOKER

Saturday, July 8, 2017 9:30 AM (P)

You need to get a dictionary and look up the world fascism.

THGRRI

Sunday, July 9, 2017 8:53 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You need to get a dictionary and look up the world fascism.

Jack telling someone to look something up is to funny.

Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. Yep, that's Trump. And, all his little Trumpetts.

SECOND

Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:35 PM (P)

As part of his series of tweets today, Sunday, Trump said he "strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling on the issue" and that Putin "vehemently denied it".

He said the pair discussed forming "an impenetrable Cyber Security unit", prompting derision on social media.

I mean, generally, people feel more secure if the people accused of a crime aren't responsible for preventing further crimes.

It's like the Putin fox telling the Trump hen that he doesn't eat chicken and that he's going to keep all hens safe if they work together. It is evidence Trump has lost his mind or he is conspiring with Putin. Impossible to tell which since Trump is scatterbrained on election hacking.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884012097805406208

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, July 10, 2017 3:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You need to get a dictionary and look up the world fascism.

Jack telling someone to look something up is to funny.

Fascism: An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. Yep, that's Trump. And, all his little Trumpetts.

Yep. That's google's definition, or at least the first half of it.

Here's Webster's. I trust Webster over Google since they've been in the business since it started:

Definition of fascism

Quote:
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge

Nothing about Right Wing in there. Huh.... Imagine that.

Still wondering where that strong dictatorial control and forcible suppression of opposition is too. Haven't seen any of that either.

THGRRI

Monday, July 10, 2017 11:46 AM (P)

Donald Trump Jr. has made a potentially damaging New York Times report much, much worse.

The Times on Sunday reported that the president's eldest son was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer at Trump Tower in New York on June 9, 2016.

As Times reporters Jo Becker, Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman explained, Trump Jr.’s motivation for agreeing to the meeting “points to the central question in federal investigations of the Kremlin’s meddling in the presidential election: whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The accounts of the meeting represent the first public indication that at least some in the campaign were willing to accept Russian help.”

In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. “After pleasantries were exchanged,” he said, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”

“It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting,” Mr. Trump said.

Read that last part again: “the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-donald-trump-jr%e2%80%
99s-stunningly-incriminating-statement-to-the-new-york-times/ar-BBE6FSO?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, July 10, 2017 12:57 PM (P)

What's you're point?

Somebody who happened to be Russian met with him saying they had damning information on Clinton. He figured out pretty early they didn't have anything of substance.

Maybe the Democrats are colluding with Russia and this meeting was set up just to have it on record that Trump Jr. met with Russians?

Sounds just as plausible as anything that you're passive aggressively insinuating here.

JO753

Monday, July 10, 2017 2:23 PM (P)

I keep expecting Trump supporterz to start realizing how stoopid the entire Trump family iz, but they still havent.

They hav gotten away with their cheating all along bekuz therez an unlimited supply uv even stoopider peepl for them to cheat. They think they are getting away with their rediculous liez kuz the Fox crowd believz everything they say.

'It duznt haf to make sens. I just haf to say it & thats good enuf'.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, July 10, 2017 2:28 PM (P)

lol

REAVERFAN

Monday, July 10, 2017 8:07 PM (P)

Quote:

Nothing about Right Wing in there. Huh.... Imagine that.

Still wondering where that strong dictatorial control and forcible suppression of opposition is too. Haven't seen any of that either.

LOL! The ignorance is outstanding!

THGRRI

Monday, July 10, 2017 8:43 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
What's you're point?

Somebody who happened to be Russian met with him saying they had damning information on Clinton. He figured out pretty early they didn't have anything of substance.

Maybe the Democrats are colluding with Russia and this meeting was set up just to have it on record that Trump Jr. met with Russians?

Sounds just as plausible as anything that you're passive aggressively insinuating here.

Not insinuating Jack. Sticking with the facts. Another Russian contact not disclosed. What went down was at the least attempted collusion according to lawyers. It's getting worse very quickly for Trump and his campaign.

Just another piece of the puzzle Jack. These guys are dying by a thousand cuts. Lie after lie being revealed. Russian contact after undisclosed Russian contact still being revealed. And Jack, confirmation of the story comes from mutable White House staff.

You're a moron Jack.

SIGNYM

Monday, July 10, 2017 9:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Lie after lie being ~~revealed~~ cooked up by the deep state and happilly disseminated by the media

Fixed it for ya, THUGR. Check out the latest in lies here ... http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61760&p=2#1
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New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally - DNC Not "Hacked By Russians"

New meta-analysis has emerged from a document published today by an independent researcher known as The Forensicator, which suggests that files eventually published by the Guccifer 2.0 persona were likely initially downloaded by a person with physical access to a computer possibly connected to the internal DNC network. The individual most likely used a USB drive to copy the information. The groundbreaking new analysis irrevocably destroys the Russian hacking narrative, and calls the actions of Crowdstrike and the DNC into question.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

THGRRI

Monday, July 10, 2017 9:45 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Lie after lie being ~~revealed~~ cooked up by the deep state and happilly disseminated by the media
Fixed it for ya, THUGR. Check out the latest in lies here ... http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61760&p=2#1
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Quote:
New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally - DNC Not "Hacked By Russians"

New meta-analysis has emerged from a document published today by an independent researcher known as The Forensicator, which suggests that files eventually published by the Guccifer 2.0 persona were likely initially downloaded by a person with physical access to a computer possibly connected to the internal DNC network. The individual most likely used a USB drive to copy the information. The groundbreaking new analysis irrevocably destroys the Russian hacking narrative, and calls the actions of Crowdstrike and the DNC into question.

THGRRI

Monday, July 10, 2017 11:30 PM (P)

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:46 AM (P)

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:58 AM (P)

SECOND

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:21 AM (P)

Facts sink in. But they don’t matter. Let that sink in.

In both experiments, the researchers found that corrections did what they were intended to do: nudge people toward the truth. Trump supporters were more resistant to the nudge, but they were nudged all the same.

But here’s the kicker: The corrections didn’t change their feelings about Trump (when participants in the corrections conditions were compared with controls).

“People were willing to say Trump was wrong, but it didn’t have much of an effect on what they felt about him,” Nyhan says.

So facts make an impression. They just don’t matter for our decision-making, which is a conclusion that’s abundant in psychology science.

www.vox.com/2017/7/10/15928438/fact-checks-political-psychology

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:27 AM (P)

All true SECOND, but its all whacking at Trumps supporters. In the end Trumps supporters will not balk as much when Mueller releases his report. A report republicans can not ignore. A report that leads to Trump and others going to jail.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Facts sink in. But they don’t matter. Let that sink in.

In both experiments, the researchers found that corrections did what they were intended to do: nudge people toward the truth. Trump supporters were more resistant to the nudge, but they were nudged all the same.

But here’s the kicker: The corrections didn’t change their feelings about Trump (when participants in the corrections conditions were compared with controls).

“People were willing to say Trump was wrong, but it didn’t have much of an effect on what they felt about him,” Nyhan says.

So facts make an impression. They just don’t matter for our decision-making, which is a conclusion that’s abundant in psychology science.

www.vox.com/2017/7/10/15928438/fact-checks-political-psychology

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
What's you're point?

Somebody who happened to be Russian met with him saying they had damning information on Clinton. He figured out pretty early they didn't have anything of substance.

Maybe the Democrats are colluding with Russia and this meeting was set up just to have it on record that Trump Jr. met with Russians?

Sounds just as plausible as anything that you're passive aggressively insinuating here.

Not insinuating Jack. Sticking with the facts. Another Russian contact not disclosed. What went down was at the least attempted collusion according to lawyers. It's getting worse very quickly for Trump and his campaign.

Just another piece of the puzzle Jack. These guys are dying by a thousand cuts. Lie after lie being revealed. Russian contact after undisclosed Russian contact still being revealed. And Jack, confirmation of the story comes from mutable White House staff.

You're a moron Jack.

That's not collusion.

Somebody has calls you and tells you they have information that can bury your opponent. Whether they do or don't, you go and meet them and at least see what they have to say.

That's just another day in politics.

"You're a moron Jack".

Sticks and stones, my friend.

At least I'm not slipping mindlessly into the tin-foil hat crowd.

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
What's you're point?

Somebody who happened to be Russian met with him saying they had damning information on Clinton. He figured out pretty early they didn't have anything of substance.

Maybe the Democrats are colluding with Russia and this meeting was set up just to have it on record that Trump Jr. met with Russians?

Sounds just as plausible as anything that you're passive aggressively insinuating here.

Not insinuating Jack. Sticking with the facts. Another Russian contact not disclosed. What went down was at the least attempted collusion according to lawyers. It's getting worse very quickly for Trump and his campaign.

Just another piece of the puzzle Jack. These guys are dying by a thousand cuts. Lie after lie being revealed. Russian contact after undisclosed Russian contact still being revealed. And Jack, confirmation of the story comes from mutable White House staff.

You're a moron Jack.

That's not collusion.

Somebody has calls you and tells you they have information that can bury your opponent. Whether they do or don't, you go and meet them and at least see what they have to say.

That's just another day in politics.

"You're a moron Jack".

Sticks and stones, my friend.

At least I'm not slipping mindlessly into the tin-foil hat crowd.

You've been wearing that hat for many years here now Jack. As for what's going to happen to Trump and friends. Brace yourself...

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:52 AM (P)

Oh... I'm braced. Have been ever since your countdown clock started.

The beautiful thing about all of this is that I have nothing to win or lose no matter what happens.

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:40 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Oh... I'm braced. Have been ever since your countdown clock started.

The beautiful thing about all of this is that I have nothing to win or lose no matter what happens.

You're not to bright so I'll spell it out for you. What others think of your judgement is at stake. Is Jack a moron as T has been suggesting? You've made a lot of assumptions about who is write and wrong here regarding Trump. To date you have sided almost exclusively with SIG.

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:09 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Oh... I'm braced. Have been ever since your countdown clock started.

The beautiful thing about all of this is that I have nothing to win or lose no matter what happens.

You're not to bright so I'll spell it out for you. What others think of your judgement is at stake. Is Jack a moron as T has been suggesting? You've made a lot of assumptions about who is write and wrong here regarding Trump. To date you have sided almost exclusively with SIG.

Who's "write" and wrong, huh?

Thanks for spelling it out!

RIVERLOVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:35 AM (P)

9:35 pm ... waiting for status update ...

OK ... Yes ... We Have Breaking News ...

Trump Is

S T I L L

President

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:24 AM (P)

Hey Jack

Email To Donald Trump Jr. Reportedly Spoke Of Russian Plot To Aid Trump Campaign

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that a meeting to obtain information damaging to presidential rival Hillary Clinton was connected to intelligence gathered by the Russian government to help elect his father, according to a report published in The New York Times on Monday.

The Times, citing multiple people with knowledge of the missive, said the email was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist who helped set up the meeting during the 2016 presidential campaign between Trump’s eldest son and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The note reportedly said the information presented during the meeting would come from the Russian government.

Mark Corallo, the spokesman for President Trump’s personal lawyer, told The Guardian the president was “not aware of and did not attend the meeting” between his son and Veselnitskaya.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-russia-email_us_59
642625e4b09b587d617ff2

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Oh... I'm braced. Have been ever since your countdown clock started.

The beautiful thing about all of this is that I have nothing to win or lose no matter what happens.

You're not to bright so I'll spell it out for you. What others think of your judgement is at stake. Is Jack a moron as T has been suggesting? You've made a lot of assumptions about who is write and wrong here regarding Trump. To date you have sided almost exclusively with SIG.

Who's "write" and wrong, huh?

Thanks for spelling it out!

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:34 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey Jack

Email To Donald Trump Jr. Reportedly Spoke Of Russian Plot To Aid Trump Campaign

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that a meeting to obtain information damaging to presidential rival Hillary Clinton was connected to intelligence gathered by the Russian government to help elect his father, according to a report published in The New York Times on Monday.

The Times, citing multiple people with knowledge of the missive, said the email was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist who helped set up the meeting during the 2016 presidential campaign between Trump’s eldest son and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The note reportedly said the information presented during the meeting would come from the Russian government.

Mark Corallo, the spokesman for President Trump’s personal lawyer, told The Guardian the president was “not aware of and did not attend the meeting” between his son and Veselnitskaya.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-russia-email_us_59
642625e4b09b587d617ff2

An email was sent by somebody from Russia to the Trump team that said they had damning information on Hillary Clinton.

You already posted that.

Is your point that I shouldn't support somebody that some people in Russia would rather have as President? That because somebody in Russia would want Trump as president over Hillary that I should have chose Hillary instead?

That doesn't make sense.

That's like me asking you if you like dogs. And if you say that you do like dogs than you must be a Nazi because Hitler loved dogs.

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:01 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey Jack

Email To Donald Trump Jr. Reportedly Spoke Of Russian Plot To Aid Trump Campaign

Donald Trump Jr. was told in an email that a meeting to obtain information damaging to presidential rival Hillary Clinton was connected to intelligence gathered by the Russian government to help elect his father, according to a report published in The New York Times on Monday.

The Times, citing multiple people with knowledge of the missive, said the email was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist who helped set up the meeting during the 2016 presidential campaign between Trump’s eldest son and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The note reportedly said the information presented during the meeting would come from the Russian government.

Mark Corallo, the spokesman for President Trump’s personal lawyer, told The Guardian the president was “not aware of and did not attend the meeting” between his son and Veselnitskaya.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-russia-email_us_59
642625e4b09b587d617ff2

An email was sent by somebody from Russia to the Trump team that said they had damning information on Hillary Clinton.

You already posted that.

Is your point that I shouldn't support somebody that some people in Russia would rather have as President? That because somebody in Russia would want Trump as president over Hillary that I should have chose Hillary instead?

That doesn't make sense.

That's like me asking you if you like dogs. And if you say that you do like dogs than you must be a Nazi because Hitler loved dogs.

OK, I need to stop trying to enlighten you. You are incapable of thinking things through to a rational conclusion. It was an email informing Trump Jr. the Russian government was behind sending the women, AND gathering the evidence she would provide. This is one of the things Trump is charged with. Working with the Russians. You'll never understand anything because you can't evolve beyond an uneducated, uninformed street level logic. The trail of bread crumbs is undeniable yet you are starved of the logic needed to follow them.

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:54 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
OK, I need to stop trying to enlighten you. You are incapable of thinking things through to a rational conclusion. It was an email informing Trump Jr. the Russian government was behind sending the women, AND gathering the evidence she would provide. This is one of the things Trump is charged with. Working with the Russians. You'll never understand anything because you can't evolve beyond an uneducated, uninformed street level logic. The trail of bread crumbs is undeniable yet you are starved of the logic needed to follow them.

I love how you have nothing, so you constantly resort to insulting my intelligence.

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
OK, I need to stop trying to enlighten you. You are incapable of thinking things through to a rational conclusion. It was an email informing Trump Jr. the Russian government was behind sending the women, AND gathering the evidence she would provide. This is one of the things Trump is charged with. Working with the Russians. You'll never understand anything because you can't evolve beyond an uneducated, uninformed street level logic. The trail of bread crumbs is undeniable yet you are starved of the logic needed to follow them.

I love how you have nothing, so you constantly resort to insulting my intelligence.

You keep saying that. For a year or so now, the whole time, we have been posting evidence that shows your thinking to be on par with a slug. We post what's being reported on, you call it all lies; fake news. Even though, it keeps being proven true as time goes bye.

THE EMAILS: Trump Jr. posts exchange that promised dirt on Clinton as 'part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump'

In response to Goldstone's initial email requesting the meeting and promising incriminating information on Clinton, Trump Jr. responded, "If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer."

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:41 PM (P)

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, July 12, 2017 12:51 AM (P)

I don't see any problem with that email correspondence.

There were much worse things in the Clinton emails nearly every day as they were leaked and they didn't bother you at all.

THGRRI

Wednesday, July 12, 2017 12:54 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I don't see any problem with that email correspondence.

There were much worse things in the Clinton emails nearly every day as they were leaked and they didn't bother you at all.

Fallacy of Relative Privation. Look it up. And as simply as I can put it, those emails show Russia trying to interfere with our elections. Now, before you respond to that, think of Fallacy of Relative Privation again.

THGRRI

Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:59 PM (P)

My post from another thread belongs in this thread for posterity. The clock is ticking.

Jared Kushner had two of the three meetings we now know of with Russians , two weeks before he filled out his disclosure form. He omitted these contacts. No way he forgot the meetings and that's a felony. Four days after Trump Jr. meet with the Russian lawyer, Trump said in a speech he was going to release damaging information about Clinton.

The emails are the proof Trump knew through first hand knowledge about the Russia hacking. Collusion is not illegal and that's the word that's been thrown out there. What is illegal is coordinating, conspiracy and benefitting by working with a foreign government. It violates our election laws.

JO753

Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:01 AM (P)

Wut jumps out at me iz Veselnitskaya saying that Manafort & Kushner payed no attention.

I understand that - Its hard to pay attention to sumwun tokking about sumthing you know more than they do about. Az soon az they verified that she had nothing new, they'd get back to working on the campane.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:24 PM (P)

Oh, of course not!

It is literally the ABC of How to Steal an Election.

A. A foreign government official flatly states they have something of value

B. A member of the Trump campaign schedules a meeting to get their hands on it

C. It is ILLEGAL to pursue that something of value

Can't get any simpler than that.

For example: someone tells you that there's a valuable object in a neighbor's house, and you meet with that someone and they tell it's there's, then you break into the house and it's empty. Did you commit a crime?

Don Jr. went to the meeting with the intent to obtain that damaging info, which in and of itself is ILLEGAL. Whether he got the info or not is irrelevant. The crime isn't in obtaining the object of his desire to get dirt on Hillary. The crime is that he met with a foreign official to gain something of value - for which there is a law.

Not to mention that he, and others, have flatly denied it since day one. Now, whether or not it meets the "collusion" aspect of the case is also irrelevant. He broke the law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, especially when the stakes are at the highest level - the presidency.

Did Hillary break the law? You say, yes she did. I say, if this is the case - fuck her, throw her in jail. Like Donald said, "Lock her up!" But let's not deflect.
This case is about the Trump campaign and conspiring with Russian officials, and despite the fact that you, and others, hate Hillary it doesn't change the fact that Don Jr. went to meet with a foreign official (one that doesn't even speak English)
to obtain something of value.

It is clear to me. Direct from the horse's mouth.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I don't see any problem with that email correspondence.

There were much worse things in the Clinton emails nearly every day as they were leaked and they didn't bother you at all.

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:28 PM (P)

Here's a question for you: Why did they take the meeting?

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Wut jumps out at me iz Veselnitskaya saying that Manafort & Kushner payed no attention.

I understand that - Its hard to pay attention to sumwun tokking about sumthing you know more than they do about. Az soon az they verified that she had nothing new, they'd get back to working on the campane.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SHINYGOODGUY

Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:30 PM (P)

EXACTLY!

As plain as black and white. Open and shut case.

How's that for a "Nothing Burger!"

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
My post from another thread belongs in this thread for posterity. The clock is ticking.

Jared Kushner had two of the three meetings we now know of with Russians , two weeks before he filled out his disclosure form. He omitted these contacts. No way he forgot the meetings and that's a felony. Four days after Trump Jr. meet with the Russian lawyer, Trump said in a speech he was going to release damaging information about Clinton.

The emails are the proof Trump knew through first hand knowledge about the Russia hacking. Collusion is not illegal and that's the word that's been thrown out there. What is illegal is coordinating, conspiracy and benefitting by working with a foreign government. It violates our election laws.

SECOND

Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:22 PM (P)

The Russian that met Trump Jr., Natalia Veselnitskaya, was the lawyer in a money laundering case squashed by Trump Sr.

So: was there a deal made last year? Did Trump campaign aides—or Trump himself—agree to scuttle the case against Prevezon in return for dirt on Hillary Clinton?

This might be a big stretch, nothing more than a bit of connecting-the-dots conspiracy theorizing. Alternatively, it might be the real deal. If it is, it’s the first step toward the Watergate-ization of the Trump-Russia scandal.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/democrats-want-to-know-if-trump
-quashed-a-russian-money-laundering-case-in-return-for-dirt-on-hillary-clinton/

JO753

Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:33 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's a question for you: Why did they take the meeting?

They didnt no beforhand that she didnt hav anything new for them.

Also, take everything we've herd about the substans uv the meeting with a grain uv salt, kuz it all came from Don Jr. and the Russian lawyer.

For all we no, she dilivered info and instructionz from Putin to Donald Sr.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SECOND

Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:18 PM (P)

Today the former president of Brazil, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, was sentenced to nearly 10 years in prison on corruption and money laundering charges. But he’s not going to jail just yet; the judge wrote he believed it would be too “traumatic” to put a former president behind bars. Da Silva will be a free man while he appeals the decision. In other news, Trump left the country for France for no reason.
www.reuters.com/article/us-france-usa-idUSKBN19Y07D

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THGRRI

Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:38 PM (P)

Russian Officials Overheard Discussing Trump Associates Before Campaign Began

WASHINGTON—Investigators are re-examining conversations detected by U.S. intelligence agencies in spring 2015 that captured Russian government officials discussing associates of Donald Trump, according to current and former U.S. officials, a move prompted by revelations that the president’s eldest son met with a Russian lawyer last year.

But intelligence officials are now reviewing the findings, especially following reports that Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin last June in an effort to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton. According to an email chain Trump Jr. posted online Tuesday, he was told ahead of time that the meeting was "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

The Trump campaign is under multiple congressional investigations and an FBI counterintelligence inquiry over its connections to Russia and whether it played any role in Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

Though Trump has repeatedly blasted the investigations and called them a "witch hunt," the revelations about Trump Jr. have reignited the debate over whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the election.

http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-officials-overheard-discussing-
trump-associates-before-campaign-2017-7

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-officials-overheard-discussing-tr
ump-associates-before-campaign-began-1499890354

THGRRI

Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:03 PM (P)

Mike Pence’s Press Secretary Won’t Say If His Boss Met With Russians

Vice President Mike Pence quickly moved to distance himself from Donald Trump Jr. this week after a series of bombshell reports found the president’s eldest son had met in June 2016 with a Russian lawyer in an effort to obtain damaging intel on presidential rival Hillary Clinton.

Pence’s spokesman Marc Lotter sought Wednesday to increase that separation during an interview on Fox News but refused, repeatedly, to say if the vice president had met with any Russians himself during the presidential campaign.

Hemmer, not to be deterred, asked again: “I understand. Fully aware of the statement there. Just come back to this question here: If it wasn’t a private citizen from Russia, did he ever meet with representatives from the Russian government during the campaign?”

“That stuff, the special prosecutors and the counsels are all looking at,” Lotter said, before saying once again that Pence was focused on other things during the campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-marc-lotter-fox-news-no
-answer_us_5966f931e4b0a8d46d12100b

THGRRI

Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:18 PM (P)

Trump camp may have helped Russia target voters

THGRRI

Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:05 PM (P)

Good post G. Hey, do you think SIG and 1kiki have this information? I'm sure they own American flags

THGRRI

Friday, July 14, 2017 7:43 PM (P)

We now know there was a Soviet era Russian intelligence officer turned lobbyist in the room as well with Trump Jr. and the others.

And....did Jared Kushner declare this on his disclosure form?

THGRRI

Saturday, July 15, 2017 1:48 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
We now know there was a Soviet era Russian intelligence officer turned lobbyist in the room as well with Trump Jr. and the others.

And....did Jared Kushner declare this on his disclosure form?

Jack, nothing?

THGRRI

Friday, July 21, 2017 10:04 PM (P)

Fasten your seat belts folks, it begins.

THGRRI

Friday, July 21, 2017 10:06 PM (P)

President Trump's lawyer says pardons 'are not on the table' in Russia probe

President Donald Trump's legal team is disputing reports that the president or others in the White House are discussing the prospect of using presidential pardons.

The Washington Post reported this morning that Trump was asking people on his team about the extent of his ability as president to pardon people in relation to the special counsel's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with members of the Trump campaign.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trumps-lawyer-pardons-table/s
tory?id=48770341

THGRRI

Friday, July 21, 2017 10:33 PM (P)

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer Resigns

WASHINGTON — White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer resigned on Friday, sources tell NBC News.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-house-press-secretary-sean-s
picer-resigns-n785321

THGRRI

Friday, July 21, 2017 10:35 PM (P)

THGRRI

Friday, July 21, 2017 11:05 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
DD vid

Come on Donny, I had that a month ago.

Spicer - one rat down. Can't wait to read his book!

Who's next? I smell oil burning in the engine room... the ship be sinkin'.

==============================

And as you say, the rats are scurrying towards the exists. The new commutations man, has no background in communication. What does that tell ya? It tells me, lairs for hire.

THGRRI

Monday, July 24, 2017 11:14 PM (P)

SECOND

Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:11 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

And as you say, the rats are scurrying towards the exists. The new commutations man, has no background in communication. What does that tell ya? It tells me, liars for hire.

Despite his boastful tweets, Trump had negative coattails in 2016
by Matthew Yglesias

Nobody really owes him anything.

President Trump kicked the political week off to an early start with a provocative late-afternoon Sunday tweet taking congressional Republicans to task for their insufficiently zealous defense of, well, President Trump.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
It's very sad that Republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back, do very little to protect their President.
3:14 PM - 23 Jul 2017

A tweet like this would suggest he’s a wildly popular president who is targeting members of his own party who might worry about their political futures — but the reality is closer to the opposite.

It’s easy to confuse Trump’s ability to defy expectations by winning the presidency with the idea that he was an extraordinarily effective candidate.

Had Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) put in a couple more solid debate performances and won the GOP nomination, people would have expected him to beat Hillary Clinton and he probably would have lived up to those expectations. Democrats playing the 2016 blame game would do well to remember that the fundamentals that year (2 terms of a Democrat, why make it 3, and slow economic growth) favored the GOP, and what Trump did in essence was come close to squandering that edge.

Though Trump’s surprise win in 2016 might make him seem like a kind of political savant, the reality is he was a drag on his party, a president who didn’t help anyone get over the finish line — offering nothing but anti-coattails.

Trump underperformed in 2016 compared to his rivals

The 2016 election left the national GOP in an extremely powerful position, but it was, paradoxically, a fairly underwhelming performance. Republicans lost two Senate seats and half a dozen House seats.

And critically, Trump did worse than GOP Senate candidates in the key battleground states. Trump finished about half a percentage point behind Sen. Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania and almost 3 points behind Ron Johnson in Wisconsin.

And he did a lot worse than Sen. Rob Portman in Ohio, who outperformed Trump by over 6.5 points; Sen. John McCain in Arizona, who outperformed Trump by nearly 6; and Sen. Marco Rubio in Florida, who beat Trump by 4. What’s particularly telling is that Trump was at odds with those three senators to an unusual degree — Rubio, particularly, opposed him in the primary and once said Trump was a “con artist.” Distance from the Republican nominee clearly helped them, even in three states Trump won.

Overall, Republicans owe Trump very little

In tight Midwestern races, generic Republicans did better than Trump. In a few red-leaning states, Republicans who distanced themselves from Trump did way better than he did.

Nobody in the Senate particularly owes Trump anything. Which means that in reality, the remarkable thing is just how far congressional Republicans have been willing to go to protect Trump.

There’s a fair amount of reason to believe that the whole conservative agenda might be better served by a less-manic, less-conflict-prone leader than the one they ended up stuck with.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/24/16017898/trump-negative-coat
tails

If mid-term elections don’t increase the number of GOP Congressmen, it could be impeachment time for the GOP to dump Trump if he doesn’t change his ways.

JO753

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:02 AM (P)

It wuz weird lissining to Kushner'z little press statement. He sounded like a socialy awkward teenaje boy with a low IQ.

He haz the same mental defect Trump haz that makes him think 'pepl will beleev me bekuz I sed it'.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SECOND

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:44 AM (P)

“FBI investigators and others,” Bloomberg reported, “are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump’s involvement in a controversial SoHo development in New York with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump’s sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008.”

In a more rule-bound environment, Mueller’s interest in opening Trump’s books would probably be checkmate for the president. It is widely suspected that a peek under the hood of the Trump organization will reveal serious financial crimes. Assuming that informed speculation is correct, Mueller would uncover the wrongdoing and bring down a president, or Trump would fire Mueller and Congress would step in to edge Trump out.

This is assuming our system of checks and balances hasn’t broken down. Republicans have given every indication over the course of the past several months that no malfeasance, no matter how naked and severe, will impel them to rein in Trump or impeach him.

That leaves the crisis to be decided by the midterm election. That election is 16 months away. Between now and then, Trump’s DOJ and his sham election-integrity commission will seek to disenfranchise as many Democratic voters as possible, while the president himself beseeches further foreign interference aimed at Democratic candidates. Absent the necessary election sweep, everything Trump will have done for his own enrichment and protection will have been ratified, and a point of no return will have been crossed.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143984/were-brink-authoritarian-crisis

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:35 AM (P)

Somebody should probably arrest Trump or something. Everybody knows he did it, right?

JO753

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:52 AM (P)

Ye! Now youre finally getting it!

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:58 AM (P)

What are you waiting for then!?

SECOND

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:09 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
What are you waiting for then!?

Trump’s recklessness is raising the stakes. The claims that Trump and his legal team are putting forward are already radical: that Trump can’t be charged with obstruction of justice because it’s in his power to terminate an investigation at any time. Although he came close, Nixon would not go that far. As president, Trump is different. Trump is preparing to drive the political system over the cliff.

Bob Bauer wrote on the blog Lawfare that Trump firing Robert Mueller would end the investigation and leave only impeachment as a remedy, with Trump counting on Republicans in the House and the Senate to support him no matter what. If the Democrats took back the House in the 2018 midterm elections, Trump could be impeached, but he would remain in power since Democrats won’t have the two-thirds votes necessary in the Senate to remove him. Emma Loop of BuzzFeed interviewed four Republican senators about whether firing Mueller would be a mistake. Only one, Marco Rubio of Florida, unequivocally said yes.

One of the main reasons for elevating Mueller as a public figure — to make him a household name — is so that firing him would become a more politically costly act. If Trump fires Mueller before the Democrats can make it a national issue, then the public will be playing catch-up with the story. The better known Mueller is, the more costly his firing would be to Trump.

If Republican Senators won't defend Mueller’s job, and Mueller is fired, they’ll be tainted as enablers in the next election.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143986/america-dont-let-donald-trump-f
ire-robert-mueller

SECOND

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:40 PM (P)

Fox News says Trump wants an Attorney General that will fire Mueller. To fire Mueller, Trump must first fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions because Sessions cannot fire Mueller, only the Deputy Attorney General can since Sessions has recused himself. Sessions resigned from the Senate to take the Attorney General job and he isn't quitting another perfectly good job just to please a fickle Trump.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/trump-wants-an-attorney-general-that-will
-fire-cia-dir-mueller-says-ben-shapiro/vi-AAoQ0Nd?ocid=spartanntp

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:51 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by G:

Being president and not giving a sh*t must be the most exciting thing for Trump since... ever. He is unburdened by party or consequence. It's as if he's playing chicken with all of us. "What? I shouldn't fire Mueller?? Watch me!"

Trump thinks that the worst that could happen is he writes more books like Nixon did in retirement. And Trump will have an advantage that Nixon didn't -- Trump has money to hire ghostwriters to do the actual work of writing his books. Trump's books will be better than Nixon's, Trump's will be the best, ever! Believe me.
www.google.com/search?q=Nixon's+books

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump is preparing to drive the political system over the cliff.

Sounds good to me.

SECOND

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:55 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump is preparing to drive the political system over the cliff.

Sounds good to me.

The last time that happened, James Buchanan was President. It was before the steering wheel was invented, but Buchanan froze -- he couldn't steer left or right when the nation got to a curve in the road and the whole system went over a cliff. He didn't anticipate what happened next. When the political system crashed and burned at the base of the cliff, it was the Civil War. Buchanan is now considered the worst President, ever. But Trump wants that title.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Buchanan#Secession

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:21 PM (P)

If civil war happens, they're not coming for me and my collective nothing.

Hope you built that moat.

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