Is Trump Nuts?
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't see what the problem was with him saying what he did here. He didn't sound like it was said in an insulting manner and Pocohontas was well thought of enough to be put on a US dollar coin for a time and have a Disney movie made of her.
He also said "they call her Pocohontas." No way of telling who "they" were from the 3 second clip they showed of the speech in this video.
I'm going to file this under "taken out of context" and "SJW bait".
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Excuse me Jack but the lady on the dollar coin was Sacagawea, not Pocohontas.
I stand corrected. My bad, Brenda. They still made a Disney movie with her though.
I don't see how that could be viewed as an insult, other than the fact it came out of Trump's mouth though. Could somebody explain to me what the insult was?
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Excuse me Jack but the lady on the dollar coin was Sacagawea, not Pocohontas.
Red Women : White Men
Pocohontas, 1596-1617.
Bore 1 child, Thomas Rolfe.
Died in Gravesend, Kent, Kingdom of England.
Of course, back then, neither the Europeans nor the Native Americans had
any notion how susceptible they were to the many European illnesses,
small pox, for instance.
Sacagawea, 1788-1812.
"Sacagawea was a Lemhi Shoshone woman who is known for her help to the
Lewis and Clark Expedition in achieving their chartered mission objectives
by exploring the Louisiana Territory." ~Wikipedia
She also married a white man, Toussaint Charbonneau, & bore him 2 children.
If only they'd known what we bring, wouldn't they have patrolled their
eastern shores with war parties? ... It might not have helped, tho, as the
Spanish conquistadors assisted by Catholic priests were settling the western
shores of this continent. I believe the West saw Chinese & Russian settlers
at about the same time. Horses came, too.
What I also find interesting is the European-Native American trade off in drugs.
Whites introduce reds to alcohol, to which Red had no resistance or tolerance,
no doubt due to lack of acetyldehyde-dehydrogenase = a liver enzyme that converts
most of the alcohol to sugar. Meanwhile, the Indians gave us tobacco, which we
whites liked alot & grew extensively, then & now.
Me: Tho I don't tolerate alcohol too well, my tolerance for tobacco is nil. I dare
not take even 1 puff in lieu of instant addiction.
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In my Not humble opinion, Alcoholism is genetic in origin.
Dad was 1 of 7 children. The 6 siblings were all alcoholics who died in their 50's & 60's ... 'cept 1. His bro #2, I've seen him drunk out of his gourd. But I also know that he sobered up sometime, cause he lived to be 88 & outlived 'em all. Dad didn't drink much; his drug was gambling.
His mother, oddly, used to refer to her mother-in-law as "that big Indian woman" in a tone of contempt. But I've got her picture with gr-grandpa. She's white on white; & he looks like a half-breed. We used to ask Dad from time to time if we had any Indian blood; he never would fess up.
Back on topic: Yes, I believe d Trump is nuts ... but not in a good, creative way, not in a way that he can rise above it.
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I'd really like for somebody to explain the insult that Trump made in the clip. I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I'm trying to understand exactly what was insulting about it.
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Quote:I remember you claim you're smart. Figure it out yourself and while you're doing that, figure out what's wrong with what Trump just did. Trump went completely nuts this morning because, you know, he had free time on his hands since it’s Wednesday and he is not all that busy with being President:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd really like for somebody to explain the insult that Trump made in the clip. I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I'm trying to understand exactly what was insulting about it.
Trump is retweeting a far-right British politician convicted of harassing Muslims
https://qz.com/1140996
In the middle of a morning Twitter spree that bragged about his economic performance, and attacked CNN and NBC, president Donald Trump retweeted three disturbing, unverified videos today.
One seems to show a boy being pushed off a roof somewhere in the Middle East. Another depicts a man shattering a gaudy sculpture of the Virgin Mary. The third shows a teenager beating up another teenage who’s holding a crutch. The tweets all highlight or claim that the culprits are “Muslim.”
The source of these tweets? Jayda Fransen, the deputy leader of the far-right Britain First party, known mainly for its “invasions” of mosques across the UK and “Christian patrols” that stoke tensions in areas with large Muslim populations.
Last year, Fransen was found guilty of religious aggravated harassment on just such a patrol. She admitted shouting at a local resident that Muslim women cover up to stop themselves being raped “because [Muslim men] cannot control their sexual urges,” adding “that’s why they are coming into my country raping women across the continent.” Defending herself in court, Fransen said: “The reason I said them was because from everything I have studied, I understand them to be true.” She later decried her nearly £2,000 fine as “Islamic appeasement.”
When asked in 2015 whether he endorses his retweets, Trump said: “Well I do retweets, and I mean, to a certain extent, I do, yeah. I think that’s right. Do you want me to say no? You know, I retweet, I retweet for a reason.”
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No. I refuse to play your game. You tell me why that was an insult.
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If someone says ... You argue like a woman! that's only considered an insult if you think women are inferior beings.
Why did Trump (and others) call Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas"? In this case, it was because Warren had made unverifiable claims that she was 1/32 Native American. The problem was Warren's family stories which were taken on the campaign trail, not Pocahontas, who was an innocent bystander in those exchanges.
Listening to Trump, I don't know if he was trying to make the code-talkers feel welcome by referring to a "potentially" native American in the Senate, or if he was taking a swipe at Warren for her ancestry claims.
Still, however it was meant, it was tone-deaf to cite Warren during a ceremony that SHOULD have been focused on the code-talkers. But just like being called a woman, calling someone Pocahontas is only an insult if you think she was an inferior human being. Personally, I would be vastly puzzled if anyone were to call ME Pocahontas, but also a little bit flattered.
So, MY impression is that it was cringingly tone-deaf of Trump. I feel that he doesn't know how to relate to groups of people who are outside of his NYC/ Miami social world. A little bit of thought and preparation and care would have eliminated that gaffe.
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Quote:Trump being thoughtful, prepared and careful? You are making a joke, right? Today, Trump clicks Jayda Fransen’s twitter feed. It’s got a big picture of Donald Trump on top! https://twitter.com/jaydabf He likes that. So he scrolls. Ooh, more videos of Muslims acting horrifically. Are they real? Well, they’re real enough if they come from the president of the United States! So he picks a few and retweets them. Then it’s back to his usual puerile boasting about the economy and rants against the fake news.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A little bit of thought and preparation and care would have eliminated that gaffe.
This is not normal, even for Trump. He’s not a subtle man, but he usually has the animal cunning to at least leave himself a veneer of deniability for his ethnic hatreds. This time, though, he goes full frontal. Why?
1. It’s his way of helping Roy Moore.
2. He wants people talking about this instead of the appalling tax bill Republicans are moving through Congress.
3. He’s officially gone from occasionally delusional to full crazy uncle.
4. Who the hell knows?
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/can-donald-trump-ever-go-too-fa
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Okay. I can run with it being a dumb thing to say, or a gaffe. I don't think Trumps the type who reads a bunch of crap that other people write for him like most politicians do. I could be wrong about that. I don't have any citations for it, and I wouldn't necessarily believe them anyhow.
It might have even been a dig at Warren. If that was the case, it was levied only at her and he mistakenly thought that people calling her Pocohontas would be a funny thing to say in the situation. (I agree. If this is the case, it was stupid thing to say in the situation. He may have been trying to break the ice but he wasn't out with his golf buddies.)
It most certainly wasn't an insult to the Native American people. I mean... WTF?
THIS is just another example of the complete loss of OBJECTIVITY in the media. Everything is a zero sum game about identity politics.
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Quote:Native Americans do not agree with you. And it is another example of you and Trump not knowing what the fuck you are talking about and not giving a shit to learn.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It most certainly wasn't an insult to the Native American people. I mean... WTF?
THIS is just another example of the complete loss of OBJECTIVITY in the media. Everything is a zero sum game about identity politics.
"Pocahontas is used a racial slur in the United States all the time," Andrew Curley, citizen of the Navajo Nation, told Newsweek. "I grew up with these kinds of remarks. It's not the name itself but the way it's used. Trump is using it to attack Senator [Elizabeth] Warren and belittle Native Americans at the same time. I take it as a personal insult."
www.newsweek.com/trump-pocahontas-native-americans-elizabeth-warren-ra
cial-slur-723858
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Originally posted by second:
Native Americans do not agree with you. And it is another example of you and Trump not knowing what the fuck you are talking about and not giving a shit to learn.
"Pocahontas is used a racial slur in the United States all the time," Andrew Curley, citizen of the Navajo Nation, told Newsweek. "I grew up with these kinds of remarks. It's not the name itself but the way it's used. Trump is using it to attack Senator [Elizabeth] Warren and belittle Native Americans at the same time. I take it as a personal insult."
www.newsweek.com/trump-pocahontas-native-americans-elizabeth-warren-ra
cial-slur-723858
How many Native Americans live in the US and Canada?
You give me a quote from one of them and tell me that all Native Americans don't agree with me.
Zero Sum, anyone?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. I refuse to play your game. You tell me why that was an insult.
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Well then, add one more thing to the list Jack is clueless about.
T
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Tell me how it was a racial slur, T.
Be specific.
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How many Native Americans live in the US and Canada?
You give me a quote from one of them and tell me that all Native Americans don't agree with me.
Yes, one of the reasons why I took the "this should have focused on the code-talkers" approach is because that's what a Native American said on NPR. (Yes, I listen to NPR.) I would imagine that there are a diversity of opinions from Native Americans on the topic.
FWIW, as a clearly white American, I have never heard of Pocahontas being referred to in anything other than positive tones. Maybe I would have to be a Native American to hear the insult, but in my experience it isn't.
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You gotta love how one anecdotal story by one random American Indian in two countries is presented as the way all American Indians took that statement.
I think that sounds pretty racist to me.
That's the mode of the MSM and the regressionist, SJW left today. It's no different than assuming that all black people would automatically vote Democrat (watch youtube videos by black people concerning this topic if you want to know how racist they think that fallacy is).
I don't know who calls her Pocohontas, but it sounds to me as if they do because Warren decided at some point to make a big show of the fact that one of her great, great, great, great, great grandparents was American Indian as if to say "Hey guys, I'm one of you". That also sounds possibly racist to me, or at the very least she was guilty of even more identity politics.
"Hey, look at "Pocahontas" over there pandering for the American Indian votes".
I agreed that it was probably a stupid thing for Trump to say at the time and place that he said it, ESPECIALLY if this is why some people call her Pocahontas. But it wasn't a racial slur, and once again another pillar of the MSM makes an ass out of itself by completely abandoning any objectivity and reporting feels over facts. Why must they editorialize everything?
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Originally posted by G:
Sure it was - he tried to score buddy points by sharing with them that he used one of their more revered historical figures as a slur to insult someone, "We call (that bitch) Pochahontas!" You can argue that he's such a colossal a-hole that he just doesn't know any better - fine. Still an insult. Twice even.
Its 2 levelz uv complexity beyond wut the typical Trump supporter (including him & hiz family) can comprehend.
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Quote:You want quotes? Trump's Cabinet members, aides, and foreign policy experts are publicly saying Trump is fucking nuts, except more politely.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How many Native Americans live in the US and Canada?
You give me a quote from one of them and tell me that all Native Americans don't agree with me.
Zero Sum, anyone?
Is it a “disconnect” or is Trump nuts?
The disconnect over Russia between Trump and his top national security aides – national security adviser H. R. McMaster, Defense Secretary James Mattis, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson – is not new, but it is bursting increasingly out into the open and showing signs of hampering decisionmaking.
“We’re really dealing with a picture where the president has certain instincts about Russia that are not shared by his national security team,” says Nikolas Gvosdev, a professor of national security affairs and Russia specialist at the US Naval War College in Newport, R.I. “The Russians are very confused by all of this, they don’t understand why the president hasn’t instructed his national security staff to reflect his views,” he says.
The normally deadpan Tillerson surprised many with the intensity of his criticism of Russian actions in a speech Tuesday at Washington’s Wilson International Center for Scholars. He cited the “malicious tactics” Russia has used against the US and its European allies – including election interference – that he said had plunged relations to the low levels of the cold war.
Referring to Russia’s invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, its politically motivated regional energy policies, and its cyberwarfare on US and other countries’ democratic elections, Tillerson said such actions “are not the behaviors of a responsible nation.”
Will Trump force his staff to believe as he believes or will he fire the staff? I think Trump will take the third way or the lazy man's way – let things drift aimlessly.
www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2017/1129/With-harsh-words-for-Ru
ssia-Tillerson-signals-another-Trump-team-rift
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No second. I don't want quotes if they're not going to pertain to our discussion. Stop using every time I post as an opportunity to segway into something completely off topic. If you don't want to answer me then just post whatever you were going to post and stop quoting me.
Nobody has explained to me how this was a racial slur.
I guess we're going to just say that it wasn't then?
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He didn't even use it himself. He was saying that others call her Pocahontas.
I still don't know the back story about why she's called that, but I've heard that it was because she was identity politicking to the American Indians by making sure everyone knew that she was 1/32 American Indian so she could pander to that demographic.
I've already said it was a stupid thing for him to say. Still no reason why it was a racial slur.
Telling me "well if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you" is a cop out.
You won't tell me because you can't tell me. Because it wasn't a racial slur.
I find it hilarious that the three "educated" white guys on this board are getting so offended over nothing for all of the American Indians. 
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.
So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.
Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.
Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.
Insightful. ... Thanks, MD. :)
... Yeah ...
It's obvious he's a narcissist. ... I didn't know he has strategy, tho.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.
So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.
Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.
Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.
Insightful. ... Thanks, MD. :)
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It's obvious he's a narcissist. ... I didn't know he has strategy, tho.
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I'll add this thought. Trump can't speak on any topic concerning the world today. Health care, taxes, foreign policy, you name it. He knows nothing about any subject he is supposed to make policy on. He tweets instead to deflect away from that.
I watched Obama sit in a room full of republicans and discuss health care one Saturday for 6 hrs. No way, and I mean no way, can Trump speak for five minutes coherently on any subject. The man's a jerk.
Believe me...
T
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THGRRI, "He knows nothing about any subject he is supposed to make policy on."
That's kinda what I thought, but didn't know how to put it.
So of all the presidents we've had in over 200 years, Trump
may have broken the record for being the least qualified.
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Originally posted by G:
If Native Americans tell us they're offended then that's enough for me to respect it.
One did. One example given.
Brenda didn't even say it was a slur. She just said Trump was an asshole.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
THGRRI, "He knows nothing about any subject he is supposed to make policy on."
That's kinda what I thought, but didn't know how to put it.
So of all the presidents we've had in over 200 years, Trump
may have broken the record for being the least qualified.
Way to Go, Blondie!
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Qualifications are 35 years old and being a natural born citizen. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I found Trump to be an excellent asshole
before he even mentioned Pocahontas.
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Fair enough. I thought the same thing about Obama.
That didn't disqualify either of them from the position.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't see what the problem was with him saying what he did here. He didn't sound like it was said in an insulting manner and Pocohontas was well thought of enough to be put on a US dollar coin for a time and have a Disney movie made of her.
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A Disney movie for Pocahontas. OK.
Did you ever see Disney's "Song of the South"? I know the studio shelved
that one for decades ... maybe it's still "taboo."
I think if I were a code-talker & Trump said Pocahontas to me, I'd feel he
was being too patronizing.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by G:
If Native Americans tell us they're offended then that's enough for me to respect it.
One did. One example given.
Brenda didn't even say it was a slur. She just said Trump was an asshole.
Because you labeled the media liars Jack you live in a bubble. It was all over the news why this was a bigoted statement. You stupidly post about it for days, a week, and haven't heard, nor learned about any of this. Why, because like Trump you fail to educate yourself on any given topic. You just spout out street conner bullshit. Like Trump, the first thing that comes to mind. It is the perfect metaphor for your input in these threads.
It is representative, symbolic, of your all encompassing ignorance. Opinions are abstract Jack. They should be based in wise and firm judgements. Yours are not. Even when G tries to educate you, you can't let go of your biases against knowledge long enough to learn something. Even though you asked him to explain it to you.
Something else is going on with Trump we haven't discussed in these threads. Something that is pertinent here. He is a stupid persons president. He is the most ignorant person to hold the position of president. Through his performance he shows on a daily bases he is woefully incompetent. Still, many of those who voted for him say he sounds just like me. Yes, he does, because they are stupid too.
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"The more people I meet the more it seems that most never bothered learning the basics. I am not asking anyone to be able to build nano-mites who eat dust to replace vacuums, or be able to explain quantum physics, but for goodness snake: Why can't you learn the basics?"
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Seems to me it was over 20 years ago, they took history out of public
schools. Most of it anyway. And a current history book that I saw at the
time had errors.
I suspect they took Civics out of high schools as well.
They unburdened the student body's developing intellect.
As if to say, "US citizens have no need of this knowledge."
But these subjects still are taught as electives in college, yes?
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Seems to me it was over 20 years ago, they took history out of public
schools. Most of it anyway. And a current history book that I saw at the
time had errors.
I suspect they took Civics out of high schools as well.
They unburdened the student body's developing intellect.
As if to say, "US citizens have no need of this knowledge."
But these subjects still are taught as electives in college, yes?
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Yes, taking a history class in college is still an option. And some still major in it.
T
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Does anybody else find it extremely funny that in T's attempt to make everyone believe that Trump is a racist and he's the president of stupid people, that he has even outmatched Wishy as the most offensive person on this board in his constant personal attacks and espousal of hate?
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by G:
If Native Americans tell us they're offended then that's enough for me to respect it.
One did. One example given.
Brenda didn't even say it was a slur. She just said Trump was an asshole.
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Jack, I explained how she found out that she was part Indian and that is how I found out. Family stories and sometimes that is all you have after so much time has passed.
It's like calling someone a "redskin" or "halfbreed". It means that we are less than a white person. We are still not viewed as being worthy.
So in a nutshell yes Jack it is a slur. I was offended and offended for the code talkers that were there to be honoured.
Sorry Brenda, but "it's like calling somebody a "redskin" or a "halfbreed" doesn't cut it for me. He didn't call her a redskin or a halfbreed. He's not Voldemort going around calling people mudbloods.
He said Pocahontas. He said that some people call her Pocahontas. Looks to me like it was nothing more than a miserably failed attempt at levity.
I've already said it wasn't a smart thing to say, and I'll even go as far as to say that it could be considered to be insensitive to some people, but it wasn't a racial slur and did not come from a place of hatred. I'm sorry you feel offended (although I will not apologize for him because I didn't say it).
Ask yourself this. If Obama were to have said the exact same thing, charmer that he was, do you think that you or anyone else would have thought claimed it was a racial slur? And before you say "oh... he wouldn't say that", we're talking in theoreticals here.
He's considered to be smarter, more charming, more likable and he's a black man. And he's a democrat. I think if it were mentioned by the MSM after the fact it would only be to say how cute of a moment it was.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Does anybody else find it extremely funny that in T's attempt to make everyone believe that Trump is a racist and he's the president of stupid people, that he has even outmatched Wishy as the most offensive person on this board in his constant personal attacks and espousal of hate?
T
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."
The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?
This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.
Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.
Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?
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I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.
One in three republicans want a different republican to run in the next presidential race.
T
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Quote:By whom? The MSM let go by the destruction of Libya, the attempted destruction of Syria, and Obama's drone warfare with its attendant blood-letting, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, and displacement without a word. So-called liberals and democrats did the same. The Nobel committee gave Obama a peace prize, just for being the first half-black American President, and didn't have the balls to take it back after he started so much violence and supported jihadist terrorists. Everybody gave Obama a big fat "pass" on all of the evil that he did, maybe because he was half-black, just like everybody (wrongly) gave Clarence Thomas the benefit of the doubt, just because HE was black. Identity politics at its worst.
One did. One example given.
Brenda didn't even say it was a slur. She just said Trump was an asshole.- SIX
Jack, I explained how she found out that she was part Indian and that is how I found out. Family stories and sometimes that is all you have after so much time has passed.
It's like calling someone a "redskin" or "halfbreed". It means that we are less than a white person. We are still not viewed as being worthy.
So in a nutshell yes Jack it is a slur. I was offended and offended for the code talkers that were there to be honoured. - BRENDA
Sorry Brenda, but "it's like calling somebody a "redskin" or a "halfbreed" doesn't cut it for me. He didn't call her a redskin or a halfbreed. He's not Voldemort going around calling people mudbloods.
He said Pocahontas. He said that some people call her Pocahontas. Looks to me like it was nothing more than a miserably failed attempt at levity.
I've already said it wasn't a smart thing to say, and I'll even go as far as to say that it could be considered to be insensitive to some people, but it wasn't a racial slur and did not come from a place of hatred. I'm sorry you feel offended (although I will not apologize for him because I didn't say it).
Ask yourself this. If Obama were to have said the exact same thing, charmer that he was, do you think that you or anyone else would have thought claimed it was a racial slur? And before you say "oh... he wouldn't say that", we're talking in theoreticals here. He's considered to be smarter, more charming, more likable and he's a black man. And he's a democrat. I think if it were mentioned by the MSM after the fact it would only be to say how cute of a moment it was. - SIX
I am going to take a page out of the President of the Navajo nation's book and try to teach. Going backwards.
1. If Obama ever said something that stupid and any democrat thought it was cute then that democrat should have been taken out and shot.- BRENDA
Just my opinion.
Quote:And what did he use that intelligence FOR? To sweet-talk the American people while he was busy waging secret/proxy/direct warfare all over the Middle East, bailing out the banks while screwing average Americans, and spying on just about everybody? Everybody gave Obama a big fat "pass" on all of the evil that he did.
2. Obama has more intelligence in his little finger than Trump in his whole body inspite of having about 20years in age on Obama.- BRENDA
Quote:He grew up in Indonesia. And everybody gave Obama a big fat "pass" on all of the evil that he did.
3. Obama grew up hearing that kind of garbage either spoken to his face or whispered behind his back. His own WHITE mother would have heard the same types of things or worse for marrying a black man.
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4. If you go back and listen to some of Trump's speeches he uses the name Pocohontas himself and not "they call her that."
5. Have you never heard the word Mexican, Japanese or Chinese used with derision or snarled? Because the person using it doesn't like someone who isn't white. That is what made it an insult. He was being patronizing and condescending in front of
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Yes, Sig. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Smart Brenda, you can't explain to people who are not capable of learning. Only of having intractable traits.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:By whom? The MSM let go by the destruction of Libya, the attempted destruction of Syria, and Obama's drone warfare with its attendant blood-letting, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, and displacement without a word. So-called liberals and democrats did the same. The Nobel committee gave Obama a peace prize, just for being the first half-black American President, and didn't have the balls to take it back after he started so much violence and supported jihadist terrorists. Everybody gave Obama a big fat "pass" on all of the evil that he did, maybe because he was half-black, just like everybody (wrongly) gave Clarence Thomas the benefit of the doubt, just because HE was black. Identity politics at its worst.
One did. One example given.
Brenda didn't even say it was a slur. She just said Trump was an asshole.- SIX
Jack, I explained how she found out that she was part Indian and that is how I found out. Family stories and sometimes that is all you have after so much time has passed.
It's like calling someone a "redskin" or "halfbreed". It means that we are less than a white person. We are still not viewed as being worthy.
So in a nutshell yes Jack it is a slur. I was offended and offended for the code talkers that were there to be honoured. - BRENDA
Sorry Brenda, but "it's like calling somebody a "redskin" or a "halfbreed" doesn't cut it for me. He didn't call her a redskin or a halfbreed. He's not Voldemort going around calling people mudbloods.
He said Pocahontas. He said that some people call her Pocahontas. Looks to me like it was nothing more than a miserably failed attempt at levity.
I've already said it wasn't a smart thing to say, and I'll even go as far as to say that it could be considered to be insensitive to some people, but it wasn't a racial slur and did not come from a place of hatred. I'm sorry you feel offended (although I will not apologize for him because I didn't say it).
Ask yourself this. If Obama were to have said the exact same thing, charmer that he was, do you think that you or anyone else would have thought claimed it was a racial slur? And before you say "oh... he wouldn't say that", we're talking in theoreticals here. He's considered to be smarter, more charming, more likable and he's a black man. And he's a democrat. I think if it were mentioned by the MSM after the fact it would only be to say how cute of a moment it was. - SIX
I am going to take a page out of the President of the Navajo nation's book and try to teach. Going backwards.
1. If Obama ever said something that stupid and any democrat thought it was cute then that democrat should have been taken out and shot.- BRENDA
Just my opinion.Quote:And what did he use that intelligence FOR? To sweet-talk the American people while he was busy waging secret/proxy/direct warfare all over the Middle East, bailing out the banks while screwing average Americans, and spying on just about everybody? Everybody gave Obama a big fat "pass" on all of the evil that he did.
2. Obama has more intelligence in his little finger than Trump in his whole body inspite of having about 20years in age on Obama.- BRENDAQuote:He grew up in Indonesia. And everybody gave Obama a big fat "pass" on all of the evil that he did.
3. Obama grew up hearing that kind of garbage either spoken to his face or whispered behind his back. His own WHITE mother would have heard the same types of things or worse for marrying a black man.
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4. If you go back and listen to some of Trump's speeches he uses the name Pocohontas himself and not "they call her that."
5. Have you never heard the word Mexican, Japanese or Chinese used with derision or snarled? Because the person using it doesn't like someone who isn't white. That is what made it an insult. He was being pa
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And there in lies the big problem: HE'S A SELFISH IDIOT. He didn't even have the simple respect or empathy for his guests to understand that it wasn't about him and that that comment might be a bad idea. He should have known better but he runs his mouth because he feels entitled by his wealth and power to have all the candy in the world whenever he wants and 'eff everyone else.
Okay. I don't know if all of this is true, but I won't argue any of it either, because it certainly seems to be the case.
But then this bullshit...
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Has he done anything yet that benefits people that aren't wealthy white dudes? Almost everything has been a take away or a negating of something, and almost all of it an action against non-white people. He insults Native Peoples in the White House one week, and then opens up some of the land they hold as sacred the next. He must hate them. He attacks black athletes. He attacks Muslims. How much racism does he have to exhibit before you have a problem, or until you are comfortable having no problem being publicly pro-bigot?
The black athletes he "attacks" are racist.
The Muslims he "attacks" are racist.
I'm sure if wealthy people are benefiting from anything that he's doing just for the rich people, there are plenty of black and muslim rich people who are making out as well.
I still see no evidence that he hates American Indians. I don't even know why anybody in the country would hate them. I've only known a few in my lifetime and they were some of the nicest and most interesting people I've ever known.
You're going to have to elaborate on whatever you're on about with their sacred land. I have no idea what you're talking about. That sounds like something I would be very against if it is as you say it is.
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I'm sorry that you feel offended, but I don't think offense was meant.
And there in lies the big problem: HE'S A SELFISH IDIOT. He didn't even have the simple respect or empathy for his guests to understand that it wasn't about him and that that comment might be a bad idea. He should have known better but he runs his mouth because he feels entitled by his wealth and power to have all the candy in the world whenever he wants and 'eff everyone else. Has he done anything yet that benefits people that aren't wealthy white dudes? Almost everything has been a take away or a negating of something, and almost all of it an action against non-white people. He insults Native Peoples in the White House one week, and then opens up some of the land they hold as sacred the next. He must hate them. He attacks black athletes. He attacks Muslims. How much racism does he have to exhibit before you have a problem, or until you are comfortable having no problem being publicly pro-bigot?
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Yep and that is the larger point. He is self serving and ignorant. Those are just two negative aspects of Trumps personality. There are many more. His personal makeup is the personal makeup of a terrible person. One not fit to be president.
None of what comes out of his mouth or he attempts to do suggests he has vision. Only a lack of knowledge and forethought. The fact that sig and Jack disagree is documented here for all to reference.
History won't wait to judge Trump. It has already begun. The history of these threads won't wait to judge sig and Jack. That too has already begun.
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I wear it with pride, T.
I'm not a mindless Maddow sycophant parroting her very well paid words.
Trump has a lot of flaws. This I don't deny.
There's no need for you or anybody else to make a bunch of shit up about him when he does a bang up job of it himself.
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I wear it with pride, T.
I'm not a mindless Maddow sycophant parroting her very well paid words.
Trump has a lot of flaws. This I don't deny.
There's no need for you or anybody else to make a bunch of shit up about him when he does a bang up job of it himself.
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And there's the flaw in your thinking Jack. What I and others are posting about Trump is not made up.
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He says something stupid, out of place, and that could possibly offend people with delicate sensibilities when it didn't need to be said it all.
You go all out and say beyond a shadow of a doubt it came from a place of hate and was racist.
Making shit up is EXACTLY what you are doing.
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He says something stupid, out of place, and that could possibly offend people with delicate sensibilities when it didn't need to be said it all.
You go all out and say beyond a shadow of a doubt it came from a place of hate and was racist.
Making shit up is EXACTLY what you are doing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
It was mentioned here Jack. Some just spoke on it. You're the one who turned it into a huge discussion. Why, cause you're a moron who still doesn't understand what happened and why. Even though it's been explained countless times to you.
Trump acted shamelessly. He turned an event meant to honor Native Americans who served with distinction in WW11, into an opportunity to attack and insult a sitting Senator. For selfish reasons Jack. He sullied this evet for selfish reasons. He used the name Pocahontas to describe this senator in an insulting way.
Pocahontas wasn't even her real name. Here father used a fake name to introduce here. He felt White men would sully her somehow. He didn't want her real name used when they did so. So he introduced her as Pocahontas. Sure as shit Jack Trump proved him right. I believe her real name was Amonute.
I cannot remember what has been explained to you so far so I will add this. Trump held the event in front of a presidential portrait. The portrait of the president responsible for the trail of tears.
You're just to stupid Jack. You're just to stupid.
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I don't think Trump was "racist", but I think he was unprepared, which represents carelessness.
We know that he can craft a good speech and put on a good show for heads of state or important people. Carelessness shows that he didn't think much of the people he was addressing; but not necessarily because he's "racist". It doesn't say much good about Trump, and if I were a group of people that he addressed so unpreparedly, I'd be miffed. Not because he was hostile (because I think Trump really was trying to extend a friendly hand) and not because he was an "ist" (sexist, racist, etc) but because he was disrespectful and, as BRENDA put it, patronizing.
It's a fine line between "racism" and a general disregard of others, and deciding which one applies requires imputing motives in others which is always a dangerous thing. So, again, in my book "careless", not "racist" but it's a point on which I can see disagreement.
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Quote:That's just denial. Racism isn't something that just white people do. Many Japanese are incredibly racist (they think Koreans are subhuman), so are many Chinese. Many blacks are racist against whites: they have expectations of "white people" that have nothing to do with how any white individual might actually behave.
The black athletes he "attacks" are racist. -SIX
That's just crazy talk.- G
Now, I will say that people tend to cry "racism" over things that AREN'T race, like differences in national origin, language, religion, or citizenship. As far as I know, Spanish-speaking peoples aren't a "race", and neither are those who speak Mandarin. Being a "Muslim" doesn't define a racial group either, and citizenship doesn't confer a "race" on anybody.
Maybe instead of constantly talking about "racism" we should talk about "prejudice" because THAT is the more general term that covers a multitude of sins.
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Quote:How about "white supremacy" rather than "prejudice", which is such a weak term?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's just denial. Racism isn't something that just white people do. Many Japanese are incredibly racist (they think Koreans are subhuman), so are many Chinese. Many blacks are racist against whites: they have expectations of "white people" that have nothing to do with how any white individual might actually behave.
Now, I will say that people tend to cry "racism" over things that AREN'T race, like differences in national origin, language, religion, or citizenship. As far as I know, Spanish-speaking peoples aren't a "race", and neither are those who speak Mandarin. Being a "Muslim" doesn't define a racial group either, and citizenship doesn't confer a "race" on anybody.
Maybe instead of constantly talking about "racism" we should talk about "prejudice" because THAT is the more general term that covers a multitude of sins.
It was 1990 and Donald Trump shoots off his mouth about David Duke, the former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, running for the Senate and earning 43 percent of the vote in Louisiana.
Before Trump could claim white supremacy had nothing to do with Duke’s voters, Walker Percy, a Louisiana author, gave a prophetic warning to The New York Times: “Don’t make the mistake of thinking David Duke is a unique phenomenon confined to Louisiana rednecks and yahoos. He’s not,” Percy said. “He’s not just appealing to the old Klan constituency, he’s appealing to the white middle class. And don’t think that he or somebody like him won’t appeal to the white middle class of Chicago or Queens.”
A few days after Duke’s strong showing, the Queens-born businessman Donald Trump appeared on CNN’s Larry King Live.
“It’s anger. I mean, that’s an anger vote. People are angry about what’s happened. People are angry about the jobs. If you look at Louisiana, they’re really in deep trouble,” Trump told King.
Trump later predicted that Duke, if he ran for president, would siphon most of his votes away from the incumbent, George H. W. Bush—in the process revealing his own understanding of the effectiveness of white-nationalist appeals to the GOP base.
“Whether that be good or bad, David Duke is going to get a lot of votes. Pat Buchanan—who really has many of the same theories, except it's in a better package—Pat Buchanan is going to take a lot of votes away from George Bush,” Trump said. “So if you have these two guys running, or even one of them running, I think George Bush could be in big trouble.” Little more than a year later, Buchanan embarrassed Bush by drawing 37 percent of the vote in New Hampshire’s Republican primary.
In February 2016, Trump was asked by a different CNN host about David Duke’s, the former Klan leader, endorsement of his Republican presidential bid.
“Well, just so you understand, I don’t know anything about David Duke. Okay?,” Trump said. “I don’t know anything about what you’re even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So I don’t know.”
It was not just Trump’s supporters who were in denial about what they were voting for, but Americans across the political spectrum, who, as had been the case with those who had backed Duke, searched desperately for any alternative explanation — outsourcing, anti-Washington anger, economic anxiety — to the one staring them in the face.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-nationalists-delusion
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Trump was taken to court for trying to block black people from renting from him; simple. What sig wants to do is turn this into a discussion about racism in general.
Before she can don't that she needs to show she understands the issue. Two thirds of this country believe Trump to be a racist. She disagrees, end of story.
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SECOND, I know Trump is a nationalist. Whether or not he's a "white" nationalist, I don't know. As you know, I support ending illegal immigration into the USA, but I don't consider that "racism", I consider it a matter of national sovereignty.
As far as the David Duke candidacy is concerned, Trump framed it as a "jobs" issue. Did the other candidates in that campaign ALSO focus in jobs, or was David Duke the only one? If that was the case, the voters might really have been voting about jobs.
I think it's incredibly presumptuous of you to tell people why they "really" voted the way they did. I know that you're incredibly inaccurate when you tell ME what I think, so why should I imagine that you're any more accurate about anybody else?
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SECOND, I know Trump is a nationalist. Whether or not he's a "white" nationalist, I don't know.
Right, this is why you should not comment on the issue of racism or bigotry. You are one sig. Hey, how bout them Jews? You're such a shit.
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Quote:This from one of the most hate-filled, ignorant bigots on the board?
Right, this is why you should not comment on the issue of racism or bigotry. You are one sig. Hey, how bout them Jews? You're such a shit.
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Quote:"I think it's incredibly presumptuous of you to tell people why they "really" voted the way they did." - Typical fucking nonsense from you, Signym. I talk to white supremacists all the time. They understand Trump perfectly.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I know Trump is a nationalist. Whether or not he's a "white" nationalist, I don't know. As you know, I support ending illegal immigration into the USA, but I don't consider that "racism", I consider it a matter of national sovereignty.
As far as the David Duke candidacy is concerned, Trump framed it as a "jobs" issue. Did the other candidates in that campaign ALSO focus in jobs, or was David Duke the only one? If that was the case, the voters might really have been voting about jobs.
I think it's incredibly presumptuous of you to tell people why they "really" voted the way they did. I know that you're incredibly inaccurate when you tell ME what I think, so why should I imagine that you're any more accurate about anybody else?
And the jobs issue, Signym, is more of your fucking nonsense. People like me do not hire people to create jobs; we hire to make money. If you want job creation, ask for a job with government because it will not come from capitalists. It is not our main intention to create jobs, but only a side effect. I would prefer robots because their feelings don't get hurt when I fire them. Maybe I should be even blunter: if you want capitalists to create jobs, make it the law that they must run their businesses 5% less efficiently every year. No more labor saving automation shall be allowed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:I've made that point more than once. And thank you for showing the true colors of the 0.01%. It's time people knew who their real disease was.
And the jobs issue, Signym, is more of your fucking nonsense. People like me do not hire people to create jobs; we hire to make money. If you want job creation, ask for a job with government because it will not come from capitalists. It is not our main intention to create jobs, but only a side effect. I would prefer robots because their feelings don't get hurt when I fire them. Maybe I should be even blunter: if you want capitalists to create jobs, make it the law that they must run their businesses 5% less efficiently every year. No more labor saving automation shall be allowed. - SECONF
YOU don't care about ordinary average Americans. You're not one whit above Trump; and in many ways you're worse because you love to hire illegals because they're CHEAP.
All your hand-wringing and virtue-signaling is disgusting. It's one of the greediest, most self-serving, hypocritical displays on this board that I can remember.
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Quote:" And thank you for showing the true colors of the 0.01%. It's time people knew who their real disease was. " Yes, it is and I wait for Trump to do something to fix the situation.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I've made that point more than once. And thank you for showing the true colors of the 0.01%. It's time people knew who their real disease was.
And the jobs issue, Signym, is more of your fucking nonsense. People like me do not hire people to create jobs; we hire to make money. If you want job creation, ask for a job with government because it will not come from capitalists. It is not our main intention to create jobs, but only a side effect. I would prefer robots because their feelings don't get hurt when I fire them. Maybe I should be even blunter: if you want capitalists to create jobs, make it the law that they must run their businesses 5% less efficiently every year. No more labor saving automation shall be allowed. - SECONF
YOU don't care about ordinary average Americans. You're not one whit above Trump; and in many ways you're worse because you love to hire illegals because they're CHEAP.
All your hand-wringing and virtue-signaling is disgusting. It's one of the greediest, most self-serving, hypocritical displays on this board that I can remember.
Are you certain Trump will change the law to require me to hire more people and make my business less efficient year after year? I don't think Trump will sign that law, but if he does, I will do my fairshare to create more jobs. If all businesses are required to hire 5% more employees than last year and that continues for 8 years of Trump's Presidency, then the number of Americans with a job will increase by 48% ! That will be very impressive. (It's almost too late, but Trump could demand the 5% per year job increase in exchange for his signature lowering business taxes from 35% to 20%.)
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Quote:As I have posted, probably a dozen times by now, Trump can't fix the economy. It would take a coordinated, massive, multi-decade effort to rebuild what was frittered away over 30 years.
Are you certain Trump will change the law to require me to hire more people and make my business less efficient year after year?
But I see no reason to jump into the "free trade/ illegal immigrant" option with both feet either.
I heard something interesting a while back, and it really stuck with me. An interviewer was asking someone if they thought there would be a revolution in the USA, and the answer was Trump WAS the revolution. Revolutions are not constructive.
I voted for Trump to be a loose cannon, to interrupt the globalist plans for our country and to retain and possibly even claw back some of the sovereign rights that our globalist politicians would have given away.
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Yup. Second is a pretty disgusting person. Several times this week he's shown his true colors and what he really thinks about the working class.
As always. T is just T. Nothing but baseless insults that can be completely ignored.
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Trump Brags About His 'Natural Instinct For Science'
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Yup. Second is a pretty disgusting person. Several times this week he's shown his true colors and what he really thinks about the working class.
As always. T is just T. Nothing but baseless insults that can be completely ignored.
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I'd just like to point out to Second that this is a very old post and that T is digging up a bunch of old threads for some reason today. I've already seen one or two posts regarding me that I thought were recent that were about a year ago that I had to ignore, so now that we're being civil to each other I didn't want this post from 10 months ago fucking with that.
Regarding T though, seems that nothing has changed.
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The President Is Having A ‘Total Mental Breakdown’
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Nah... he's really not.
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Quote:During one hurricane briefing at the White House, Trump said, "I got it. I got it. Why don't we nuke them?" according to one source who was there. "They start forming off the coast of Africa, as they're moving across the Atlantic, we drop a bomb inside the eye of the hurricane and it disrupts it. Why can't we do that?" the source added, paraphrasing the president's remarks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah... he's really not.
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Asked how the briefer reacted, the source recalled he said something to the effect of, "Sir, we'll look into that."
Trump replied by asking incredulously how many hurricanes the U.S. could handle and reiterating his suggestion that the government intervene before they make landfall.
The briefer "was knocked back on his heels," the source in the room added. "You could hear a gnat fart in that meeting. People were astonished. After the meeting ended, we thought, 'What the f---? What do we do with this?'"
www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8
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During President Donald Trump’s first year in office, he had a question for staffers who were briefing him on hurricanes. Why not just bomb them?, he asked, according to Axios.
That seems far-fetched, even for Trump, but the reporters on the item, Jonathan Swan and Margaret Talev, both have a long record of accurate stories on the White House beat, and they also reviewed a National Security Council memo that recorded Trump’s question. On one occasion, Trump suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on a hurricane, a long-circulating crackpot theory. On another occasion, Trump mentioned bombs, just not nuclear ones.
Trump denied the story via tweet, but an aide defended Trump’s questions to Axios. “His goal — to keep a catastrophic hurricane from hitting the mainland — is not bad,” the official said. “What people near the president do is they say, ‘I love a president who asks questions like that, who’s willing to ask tough questions.’”
No wonder the aide was unwilling to put his or her name on that quote. What Trump is asking is not a tough question. It’s a cop-out, the latest example of Trump seeking a silver bullet — or a silver warhead, as the case might be — instead of actually doing the hard work of leading the executive branch. From “Build the wall” to “Repeal and replace” to “Trade wars are good, and easy to win,” the president relies on bumper-sticker solutions that tend not to work.
These diversions carry a cost, sometimes a very heavy one. Axios reports that Trump brought up nukes during a hurricane briefing in his first year in office. The 2017 hurricane season would turn out to be the costliest on record. As the destruction brought by Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands revealed, the federal government was deeply unprepared for a storm of that size. Trump could have been asking his briefers actual tough questions about whether the Federal Emergency Management Agency was ready for the season, and directing them to stage or deploy additional resources. Instead, he was asking the sorts of queries best reserved for stoned dorm-room sessions.
More about Trump being unable to cope with the job at www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/trump-hurricanes-nuclear-bom
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It’s one thing to claim you’re going to start a trade war; it’s another entirely to actually get into one, and to discover that you don’t know how to get out, as Trump sort of acknowledged in a moment of weakness at the G7 summit this weekend. Trump is nuts.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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No wonder the aide was unwilling to put his or her name on that quote.
lol. Seems like nobody is ever willing to put their name on anything that's said about Trump.
Two questions...
1. Is "sources" the first or the last name of the person who constantly says all of this stuff?
2. Why isn't it capitalized?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Incidentally, right after the hurricane story broke out, one of Trumps close aides was fired.
It is thought that this story was put out there on purpose to find a mole.
May or may not be true, but more than one independent journalist is on record saying that this was a possibility days before the firing happened.
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http://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/figliuzzi-the-truth-wi
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Nope. Not going to whitelist MSNBC from my adblocker.
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Trump Accuses Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower During Campaign
Donald Trump alleged in a tweet storm early Saturday that former President Barack Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower before his election victory.
Trump did not provide any evidence for the claims, which followed an interview on Fox News where the allegations came up.
"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" Trump wrote as part of a series of tweets Saturday morning.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-re
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What crazy words are Trump writing today? Check twitter! Yes, Trump is tweeting crazy and stupid stuff:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Our pathetic, slow moving Federal Reserve, headed by Jay Powell, who raised rates too fast and lowered too late, should get our Fed Rate down to the levels of our competitor nations. They now have as much as a two point advantage, with even bigger currency help. Also, stimulate!
9:00 AM · Mar 10, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237377697917140992
It just so happens the Federal Reserve already did what Trump is demanding it do. I wonder where Trump was? Or is he too crazy to notice what happened? See the graphs from the Federal Reserve.
Take notice, when Trump did not, that interest rates dropped like a meteor, but even meteors can only fall so far before hitting zero and stopping:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=qjMd
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=qjMa
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=qjM6
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yep second, Trump is nuts.
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Here's Trump's "windmill" speech. This is what it sounds like when you combine lifelong malignant narcissism with a less-than-stellar understanding of the world and sit it down in the Oval Office.
"I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?"
Soak it in, everybody.
"So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint, fumes are spewing into the air, right spewing, whether it is China or Germany, is going into the air."
A man with a clearly decreasing ability to deal with the world around him is standing in front of a crowd of conspicuously well-aged students and explaining Science. This is how America ends: not with a bang, but with a puppet show.
"A windmill will kill many bald eagles. After a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population?"
He will remain possibly the greatest idiot to ever, ever put his foot inside the doors of the White House.
www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/12/23/1907525/-Trump-rails-against-windm
ills-again-in-dementia-laced-psychosis-laced-tirade
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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He will remain possibly the greatest idiot to ever, ever put his foot inside the doors of the White House.
Agreed...
And his followers will be exposed more than they have been to date, to being the biggest idiot's to ever vote.
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Trump is trying to force-of-will a pandemic into not being a pandemic at all. “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump said at the White House on Feb. 28. On March 4, he said he had a “hunch” the mortality rate was “a fraction of 1 percent.” When it became a scandal that the United States simply didn’t have enough tests to screen people—and that an early version of the test was faulty—Trump said that the tests “are all perfect. Like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect.” It’s a telling comparison: His slow coronavirus response and his extortion of Ukraine are linked together in his mind as two things he needs to narrate as the opposite of what they are.
He’s also trying it on the economy. “Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” he tweeted Feb. 24 after the Dow dropped over 1,000 points. “Good for the consumer, gasoline prices coming down!” he tweeted Monday, as stocks plunged so quickly they triggered a pause in trading. “Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on,” he said as conferences were canceled all over the country, universities moved to online classes, and the numbers of infected people crept up. But investors didn’t seem to believe him. The man has spent so long successfully outshouting facts that it’s clear he knows no other way.
There is a silver lining here—not because it’s good news but because it’s useful to have clarity in alarming and confusing times, when different sources are saying different things. It’s this: The least trustworthy president in recent memory should be understood as a film negative during this crisis. The truth is an almost perfect inversion of what he says.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/coronavirus-crisis-trump-s
pin-fail.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Donald Trump Is Panicky and Clueless
Last night, on national TV, in a prepared address, President Trump said that
(a) we would ban all travel from Europe,
(b) we would ban some or all trade with Europe, and
(c) insurance companies had agreed to waive copays for coronavirus treatment.
All of this was mistaken. The travel ban applies only to foreign nationals, not US residents. No trade is being banned. And insurance companies are waiving copays only for coronavirus testing, not treatment.
This morning, Trump said that everyone entering the United States is being tested. This is . . . what? A lie? A delusion? A panicky response to a question? Does anyone know? The truth, of course, is that we’re not testing anyone arriving in the US. Hell, people who are returning from the hottest hotspots in northern Italy have reported not even being questioned, let alone tested.
This is way beyond outrageous. It’s not a partisan thing. There’s something wrong with Trump, and it either needs to be addressed or he needs to be taken out of the loop. This kind of stuff can’t be allowed to continue.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/03/donald-trump-is-panicky-and-clu
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
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Is Trump Nuts?
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Yep...
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Steve Inskeep Places Georgia Runoff In Historical Context
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Yup. Thank you Democrats for destroying the economy and small businesses in America.
This is your legacy.
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Quote:Fuck off, Russian troll. Nobody likes you.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:This from one of the most hate-filled, ignorant bigots on the board?
Right, this is why you should not comment on the issue of racism or bigotry. You are one sig. Hey, how bout them Jews? You're such a shit.
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Sigs is neither Russian nor a troll. I also happen to like her.
Another good story ruined by an eye witness.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Fuck off, Russian troll. Nobody likes you.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:This from one of the most hate-filled, ignorant bigots on the board?
Right, this is why you should not comment on the issue of racism or bigotry. You are one sig. Hey, how bout them Jews? You're such a shit.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think I wrote that. Although it may have been manipulated a bit to make is seem racist. I believe I am calling Signym out as a racists with that post. The how are the Jews sentence, was a swipe at her because it is known on these threads, from long since past posts, she hates Jews. Wasn't this from her Merry Christmas thread?
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Quote:Hard to say. She says so much stupid shit, I don't keep track.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Fuck off, Russian troll. Nobody likes you.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:This from one of the most hate-filled, ignorant bigots on the board?
Right, this is why you should not comment on the issue of racism or bigotry. You are one sig. Hey, how bout them Jews? You're such a shit.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think I wrote that. Although it may have been manipulated a bit to make is seem racist. I believe I am calling Signym out as a racists with that post. The how are the Jews sentence, was a swipe at her because it is known on these threads, from long since past posts, she hates Jews. Wasn't this from her Merry Christmas thread?
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Trump SUING Georgia's Raffensperger over LEAKED Phone Call Recording exposing him
Someone explain to me how this ISN'T completely insane.
It's like Nixon suing Watergate.
He's such a joke.
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Is Trump Nuts?
Saturday, March 4, 2017 9:12 AM
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I called it. Not difficult to do. Lot's of people called this. What's more important is those that didn't. Those that refused then and continue to refuse to admit he's nuts.
So, are they nuts?
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We start the new week off with more Liberal BS and a very high chance of bitching and moaning. Nothing new here, as that's been the weekly forecast ever since the middle of November.
Stay tuned for more baseless accusations by "anonymous sources" that we completely made up, right after a word from our sponsors.
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WSJ Hits Back at Trump, Says Former President Should Get ‘Counseling’“
In the single Trump term, Republicans lost the House, White House and finally the Senate,” they wrote. “How can it be that everyone other than the most prominent Republican in the country is responsible for victories but not the defeats that have left Republicans in the wilderness?”
“Losing to Joe Biden of all people, and by 7.1 million votes as an incumbent President, must be painful,” the editorial board wrote. “Counseling could be in order.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wsj-hits-back-at-trump-says-fo
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Fake mail-in election was fake.
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" 'You're like the Nazis' is the new 'I don't like you'. That disqualifies her from marching around planet Who-Gives-a-Shit in a helmet? ~Bill Maher
Collection of links to Second's, Nilbog's and Marcos' death threats: https://cutt.ly/tkCvEX6
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Yes, Trump is nuts.
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Yep, THUGGER is STILL obsessing over Trump.
Because THUGGER's mind is diseased.
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A large block of Trumps supporters embody all the traits of those in a Jerry Springer audience. What are those traits? They would be those of uneducated illiterate trash. You can't miss the resemblance when watching them at Trump rallies.
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Axios: Trump tried to pull troops from around world after election loss
Axios reporter Jonathan Swan tells CNN about former President Donald Trump's "off-the-books" bid to remove troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Germany and Africa in his final weeks in office after he'd lost the election.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/axios-trump-tried-to-pull-troo
ps-from-around-world-after-election-loss/vi-BB1gPgLI?ocid=msedgntp
All the guy knows how to do is break things. This is because everything he does is ad hoc, improvised, impromptu. Nothing is done based on any sort of knowledge about the subject at hand or with any consideration for the rule of law. He is akin to an unruly child without impulse control loose amongst fragile items. He is a disaster.
tick tock donnie...
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Quote:There were indications that Trump was nuts back in Dec. 28, 2020:
Originally posted by THG:
He is a disaster.
tick tock donnie...
Quote:https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/531789-trumps-final-days
The Pentagon is not a happy place these days. The military has been dragged into political quarrels not of its making. Those include President Trump’s veto of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), as well as his determination to withdraw troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, Germany — and, who knows, perhaps South Korea — regardless of military advice and the tactical situation on the ground in each of those places.
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There were indications that Trump was nuts on his first day, January 20, 2017:
President Trump's Inaugural Address, Annotated
www.npr.org/2017/01/20/510629447/watch-live-president-trumps-inaugurat
ion-ceremony
The Toronto Star kept a list of how nuts Trump was:
The first 5,276 false things Donald Trump said as U.S. president
https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/
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Historians say there has never been such a constant liar in the Oval Office. We think dishonesty should be challenged. We think inaccurate information should be corrected. And we think the sheer frequency of Trump’s inaccuracy is a central story of his presidency.
During the last year, were any Texas Trumptards aware Trump was nuts? Nope, which says they are nuts, too.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Agreed SECOND...
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Originally posted by second:Quote:"I think it's incredibly presumptuous of you to tell people why they "really" voted the way they did." - Typical fucking nonsense from you, Signym. I talk to white supremacists all the time. They understand Trump perfectly.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I know Trump is a nationalist. Whether or not he's a "white" nationalist, I don't know. As you know, I support ending illegal immigration into the USA, but I don't consider that "racism", I consider it a matter of national sovereignty.
As far as the David Duke candidacy is concerned, Trump framed it as a "jobs" issue. Did the other candidates in that campaign ALSO focus in jobs, or was David Duke the only one? If that was the case, the voters might really have been voting about jobs.
I think it's incredibly presumptuous of you to tell people why they "really" voted the way they did. I know that you're incredibly inaccurate when you tell ME what I think, so why should I imagine that you're any more accurate about anybody else?
And the jobs issue, Signym, is more of your fucking nonsense. People like me do not hire people to create jobs; we hire to make money. If you want job creation, ask for a job with government because it will not come from capitalists. It is not our main intention to create jobs, but only a side effect. I would prefer robots because their feelings don't get hurt when I fire them. Maybe I should be even blunter: if you want capitalists to create jobs, make it the law that they must run their businesses 5% less efficiently every year. No more labor saving automation shall be allowed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly]
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Trump's real-estate empire pays the price for poisonous politics
Trump’s business brand was once synonymous with wealth and success, an image that now clashes sharply with a political brand rooted in the anger of his largely rural and working-class voter base. His presidency is now associated in the minds of many with its violent end, as supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-real-estate-empire-pay
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Trump's real-estate empire pays the price for poisonous politics
Trump’s business brand was once synonymous with wealth and success, an image that now clashes sharply with a political brand rooted in the anger of his largely rural and working-class voter base. His presidency is now associated in the minds of many with its violent end, as supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-real-estate-empire-pay
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Nah... That's only in the minds of the journalists and the 2% of the country who buys their papers and watches CNN and MSNBC.
Trump will be fine.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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