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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A stupid phone was not available the last time I hot a new number.
I avoid google and amazon. What do you use them for? What do you require of them?
Wow... really no stupid phones at all anymore?
It's been a while since I had a cell phone at all, but if things haven't advanced THAT far yet, you could always go on ebay and buy a used flip phone and just take the SIM card from your smartphone and put it in the flip phone.
Personally, I use Google quite a bit. Just the search engine on my home computers. But it has quite a lot of great uses to it. Amazon is probably where I do a majority of my purchasing. I don't buy much, but being on my budget I'm always looking for the best price, and usually Amazon is it.
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Quote:What's the diff between eBay and amazon?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Wow... really no stupid phones at all anymore?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A stupid phone was not available the last time I hot a new number.
I avoid google and amazon. What do you use them for? What do you require of them?
It's been a while since I had a cell phone at all, but if things haven't advanced THAT far yet, you could always go on ebay and buy a used flip phone and just take the SIM card from your smartphone and put it in the flip phone.
Personally, I use Google quite a bit. Just the search engine on my home computers. But it has quite a lot of great uses to it. Amazon is probably where I do a majority of my purchasing. I don't buy much, but being on my budget I'm always looking for the best price, and usually Amazon is it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Amazon is more like a store, where they have deep shelves of stocked items you can, fairly reliably, find over time.
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
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After many years of limited success against long-term homelessness, Finland decided to adopt the US 'Housing First' model on a national scale.
www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2018/0321/Finland-s-homeless-crisis-nea
rly-solved.-How-By-giving-homes-to-all-who-need
MARCH 21, 2018 HELSINKI, FINLAND—As anyone who has visited Europe recently can attest, the scourge of homelessness has reached epidemic proportions.
The only exception to the trend is Finland, according to FEANTSA, the European Federation of National Organizations Working with the Homeless. There, homelessness is, remarkably, on the decline.
Per the latest statistics, the number of homeless people in Finland has declined from a high of 18,000 30 years ago, to approximately 7,000: the latter figure includes some 5,000 persons who are temporarily lodging with friends or relatives. In short, the problem has basically been solved.
At the core of this was a move away from the so-called “staircase model,” whereby a homeless person moved from one social rehabilitation level to another, with an apartment waiting for him or her at the highest step. Instead, Finland opted to give housing to the homeless from the start, nationwide, so as to allow them a stable environment to stabilize their lives.
“Basically, we decided that we wanted to end homelessness, rather than manage it,” says Juha Kaakinen, CEO of the Y-Foundation, which helps provide 16,500 low-cost apartments for the homeless.
To be sure, one of the reasons why Finland has made such strides in resolving its homelessness problem is because successive Finnish governments have made it a national priority. The elimination of homelessness first appeared in the Helsinki government’s program in 1987. Since then virtually every government has devoted significant resources toward this end.
Around 10 years ago, however, observers noticed that although homelessness in general was declining, long-term homelessness was not. A new approach to the problem was called for, along with a new philosophy.
The optimal solution, a group of four experts appointed by the Ministry of the Environment found, was Housing First. “Solving social and health problems is not a prerequisite for arranging housing,” they observed. “Instead, housing is a prerequisite that will also enable solving a homeless person’s other problems.”
The concept behind the new approach was not original; it was already in selective use in the US as part of the Pathways Model pioneered by Dr. Sam Tsemberis in the 1990s to help former psychiatric patients. What was different, and historic, about the Finnish Housing First model was a willingness to enact the model on a nationwide basis.
“We understood, firstly, that if we wanted to eradicate homelessness we had to work in a completely different way,” says Mr. Kaakinen, who acted as secretary for the Finnish experts. “At the same time right from the beginning there was a national consensus that the problem had reached a crisis point. ... We decided as a nation to do something about this.”
Changing course
As a result, in 2008 the Finnish National Program to reduce long-term homelessness was drafted and put into place. Helsinki and nine other Finnish cities committed to the program, with the Ministry of the Environment coordinating its implementation, and local governments and nongovernmental organizations, including the Y-Foundation, joining the team.
One of those goals was to cut the number of long-term homeless in half by producing 1,250 new homes, including supported housing units for tenants with their own leases, and around-the-clock presence of trained caring staff for residents who needed help.
At the same time, the extant network of homeless shelters was phased out. This also involved phasing out the “old way” of thinking about homelessness. “There was some work to be done on attitudes,” concedes Kaakinen. “Some of the people in the NGOs found the idea of unconditional housing hard to accept.” Also some staff had difficulty with not forcing tenants with alcohol or
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What's the diff between eBay and amazon?
Sometimes I can't tell if you're joking.
Let's just say that you probably aren't going to find many flip phones on amazon. They sell mostly new products, although you can find people selling used items through them. Ebay is an auction site, although many people do "buy it now" which essentially eliminates the auction part and only sells for a specific price.
If you want a dumb phone, here's one for $1.99 plus $3.75 shipping. You'd have to have a plan with AT&T to use it though.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AT-T-Flip-Phone/232705759581?hash=item362e581
95d:g:iJ8AAOSw~P9apg7j
If you wanted to buy something like this, make sure that it's a phone that accepts a sim card and it is for the network provider you use. I can help if you have any questions.
......
Here's one for Verizon service. It's an auction starting at .99 cents, but you could just buy it now for $12.99 if you wanted. It's also $5.00 shipping. It comes with a car charger, which is nice because I'd imagine it would be hard to find one that works with the older proprietary phones these days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Verizon-Flip-Phone-Average-Used-Condition/263
555548109?hash=item3d5d2283cd:g:5DgAAOSwk6larXyD
EDIT: Yanno what... I'd ask the seller a few questions on that one before you bought it. The listing says it's a Verizon phone, but under "Network" in the specs it says AT&T. Dumb mistake, but you don't want to pay $18 for something that won't work on your network.
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The Real Enemy of the White Working Class Is … the White Middle Class
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/03/the-real-enemy-of-the-white-wor
king-class-is-the-white-middle-class/
Middle and upper-middle-class whites support desegregation, but only because they have enough money to flee the city for the suburbs, where they live in white communities and send their kids to private white schools. Needless to say, working-class whites are stuck in the city as their neighborhoods become steadily blacker.
Because of this, working-class whites feel a deep sense of betrayal. They are angry not just—or even mostly—at blacks, but at affluent whites. These folks have supported segregation for decades, and by voting with their feet they make it plain that they still support it. But they’re willing to throw their fellow working-class whites under the bus for the sake of buying peace for the business community.
This is the root cause of working-class white resentment toward—well, blacks, of course. But if you dig down, their real resentment is toward the political establishment that, in their view, cynically sold them out.
This is a big part of why working-class whites are always on the lookout for politicians who rail against the establishment. Or the swamp. Or the elites. Or the deep state. Sure, they prefer Republicans, who are opposed to affirmative action and callout culture and political correctness. But when push comes to shove, what they really want is someone who will take a wrecking ball to the establishment that screwed them. That’s why some of them thought well of Bernie Sanders: they might not have liked his tolerant racial politics, but that was secondary to the fact that he wanted to bust up elite control of the country. That’s what they want too.
Donald Trump, of course, appealed to them even more: he also wanted to bust up the elites and he had the right racial politics. So they put him in the White House.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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On Thursday Trump tweeted: "Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy. Actually, he is weak, both mentally and physically, and yet he threatens me, for the second time, with physical assault. He doesn't know me, but he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way. Don't threaten people Joe!"
That tweet came in response to comments former Vice President Joe Biden made in a speech in Florida on Tuesday in which he said of Trump: "They asked me would I like to debate this gentleman, and I said no. I said, 'If we were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."
That Trump decided to respond to Biden -- and that he responded the way he did -- shouldn't be dismissed. It provides -- as almost all of Trump's tweets do -- a window into who he is, how he sees the world and what being the President of the United States actually means to him.
Here are three thoughts on what Trump's tweet tells us about him.
3) Trump is very, very frustrated
www.cnn.com/2018/03/22/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-tweet/index.htm
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The increasing pressure is crushing down on Trump -- from a series of civil lawsuits brought by women alleging affairs or unwanted groping, from special counsel Bob Mueller's probe into Russian election meddling, from the lack of close confidantes left to him in the White House.
When you have that much pressure on you, you need to find ways to blow off steam -- or risk exploding. Twitter has long been Trump's pressure release valve, the way he feels he can communicate in real time with the people who truly "get" him -- his followers.
Tweets like the one proposing a fight with Biden are indicative of a man who feels trapped by his office and hemmed in by a series of issues that he has little to no control over.
Twitter is what he can control, where he can be himself. I'd expect more tweets like this rather than less as the Mueller probe goes on -- and interviews with Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels air over the next few days.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The partisan gender gap among millennials is staggeringly large
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/22/17146534/millennial-gender-g
ap-partisan
Women born after 1980 favor Democrats 70-23.
Women are more Democratic than men, and younger voters are more Democratic than older ones. The former has been true for decades, and the latter is a trend that’s at least 10 or 15 years old. But a new Pew survey using a huge sample to allow for insight into demographic details shows that the intersection of these two trends is staggeringly large.
Among millennials, which Pew identifies as people born between 1981 and 1996, men lean toward Democrats by 8 percentage points — far and away a bigger tilt toward Democrats than older cohorts of men. But millennial women favor Democrats by a staggeringly large 70-23 margin.
That means that even as millennial men are the most Democratic-friendly cohort of men, the millennial gender gap is also by far the largest of any cohort. In the Silent Generation, women are 8 points more favorable to Democrats. Among boomers, it’s 10 points. Among Gen-Xers, it’s 11 points, and among millennials, it’s 21 points.
That’s driven by what seems to be an explosive change in millennial women’s political sentiments over just the past two or three years even while most other groups’ views have stayed relatively stable.
Young people are, of course, notoriously fickle midterm voters. So how much this shift in sentiment is translated into a shift in actual policy outcomes will hinge, critically, on whether this big bloc of younger women shows up in November. But it’s fair to say that while a certain amount of gender polarization is nothing new to the political system, the scale that we are now witnessing among younger people is unprecedented.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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How Obama's Data Crunchers Helped Him Win: https://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/tech/web/obama-campaign-tech-team/index
.html
Obama, The "Big Data" President: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-the-big-data-president/2
013/06/14/1d71fe2e-d391-11e2-b05f-3ea3f0e7bb5a_story.html?utm_term=.8c1e2dbbf0e0
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America: Land of the Lawless
www.laphamsquarterly.org/rule-law/land-lawless
1) Let’s start with systematic violations of the law that escape enforcement year after year. First, the health care industry, in which at least 10 percent of what our country spends goes down the drain from computerized billing fraud and abuse. According to Harvard professor Malcolm Sparrow, author of License to Steal, this 10 percent figure represents the minimum amount. Applying it to this year would produce a fraud amount of about $350 billion. The fraud is rarely prosecuted.
In 1992 the Government Accountability Office estimated a comparable 10 percent drain, but Congress continued to starve the enforcement budgets of the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Justice. These agencies recover less than $3 billion of what’s defrauded from Medicaid, Medicare, and Tricare military insurance each year—appallingly low, given that commercial crooks defraud an estimated $60 billion from Medicare alone.
2) Also under-reported are the crimes that take place in the lawless zone of wage theft. A recent report by the Economic Policy Institute—which draws on surveys of state labor departments and attorneys general as well as data from the Department of Labor and class-action settlements—estimates $50 billion a year is stolen from mostly low-income workers, while terribly weak enforcement budgets and priorities led to the recovery of only some $2 billion in 2015 and 2016 combined.
The EPI examines wage theft through minimum-wage violations, overtime violations, tipping violations, and employee misclassifications. On average, it finds that workers suffering minimum-wage violations are cheated out of $64 a week, or $3,300 annually—all while the federal minimum wage has been frozen at $7.25 an hour. Such theft is clearly illegal. But in 2016, the EPI reports, the Department of Labor’s Wage and Hour Division had only a thousand investigators responsible for 7.3 million workplaces. And workers rarely file private claims anyway, as they are often forced to sign away their right to go to court in order to have a job in the first place.
Aside from the rare case of stolen-wage restitution, employers are almost never prosecuted under criminal laws.
3) As Congress cut the IRS budget over the past decade (with inflation adjusted, down more than 25 percent from 2009), the agency has been increasingly unable to enforce the law against what it says is $400 billion a year in “uncollected taxes”—a sum that does not even include huge “avoided taxes” that flow from corporate lobbyists driving their agendas through a greased Congress. The result of this, says Robert McIntyre, who was the director of Citizens for Tax Justice for many years, is that citizen taxpayers have to pay more taxes and receive fewer public services or else incur larger government deficits.
More at www.laphamsquarterly.org/rule-law/land-lawless
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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We need to make stock buybacks illegal, as they were before 1982.
http://prospect.org/article/buyback-boondoggle-beggaring-america
Republicans branded their corporate tax cut as a way to make American corporations more profitable so they’d invest in more and better jobs. But they’re buying back their stock instead. Now that the new corporate tax cut is pumping up profits, buybacks are on track to hit a record $800 billion this year.
For years, corporations have spent most of their profits on buying back their own shares of stock, instead of increasing the wages of their employees, whose hard work creates these profits.
Stock buybacks are artificial efforts to interfere in the so-called “free market” to prop up stock prices. Because they create an artificial demand, they force stock prices above their natural level. With fewer shares in circulation, each remaining share is worth more.
Buybacks don’t create more or better jobs. Money spent on buybacks isn’t invested in new equipment, or research and development, or factories, or wages. It doesn’t build a company. Buybacks don’t grow the American economy. So why are buybacks so popular with corporate CEOs?
Because a bigger and bigger portion of CEO pay has been in stocks and stock options, rather than cash. So when share prices go up, executives reap a bonanza. The value of their pay from previous years also rises—in what amounts to a retroactive (and off the books) pay increase on top of their already outrageous compensation.
Buybacks were illegal until Ronald Reagan made them legal in 1982, just about the same time wages stopped rising for most Americans. Before then, a bigger percentage of corporate profits went into increasing workers’ wages.
But since corporations were already using their profits for stock buybacks, there is no reason to believe they’ll use their tax windfall on anything other than more stock buybacks.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yesterday:
The American People Win as President Donald J. Trump’s Priorities are Funded
— Budget & Spending Issued on: March 22, 2018
www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/american-people-win-president-
donald-j-trumps-priorities-funded/
Today:
Trump threatens to veto omnibus bill because it does not address DACA recipients, fully fund border wall
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2018/03/23/trump-threaten
s-to-veto-omnibus-bill-because-it-does-not-address-daca-recipients/?utm_term=.6aa1fe76a168
Trump is an idiot. The bill passed yesterday, needless to say, was the same bill as the day before and the day before that.
The good news, I suppose, is that this is probably nothing more than Trump’s love of drama. He wants Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan to call and beg him to sign the bill. They’ll sigh, make the call, and I suppose Trump will then sign it.
Yes, he signed. Trump laboriously read off all the various military toys that have been funded by this bill. Helicopters, ships, planes, tanks: you name it, Trump is going to build it.
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Quote:This is shocking, just shocking, I say.
Originally posted by second:
The partisan gender gap among millennials is staggeringly large
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/22/17146534/millennial-gender-g
ap-partisan
Women born after 1980 favor Democrats 70-23.
Women are more Democratic than men, and younger voters are more Democratic than older ones. The former has been true for decades, and the latter is a trend that’s at least 10 or 15 years old. But a new Pew survey using a huge sample to allow for insight into demographic details shows that the intersection of these two trends is staggeringly large.
Among millennials, which Pew identifies as people born between 1981 and 1996, men lean toward Democrats by 8 percentage points — far and away a bigger tilt toward Democrats than older cohorts of men. But millennial women favor Democrats by a staggeringly large 70-23 margin.
That means that even as millennial men are the most Democratic-friendly cohort of men, the millennial gender gap is also by far the largest of any cohort. In the Silent Generation, women are 8 points more favorable to Democrats. Among boomers, it’s 10 points. Among Gen-Xers, it’s 11 points, and among millennials, it’s 21 points.
That’s driven by what seems to be an explosive change in millennial women’s political sentiments over just the past two or three years even while most other groups’ views have stayed relatively stable.
Young people are, of course, notoriously fickle midterm voters. So how much this shift in sentiment is translated into a shift in actual policy outcomes will hinge, critically, on whether this big bloc of younger women shows up in November. But it’s fair to say that while a certain amount of gender polarization is nothing new to the political system, the scale that we are now witnessing among younger people is unprecedented.
Rumor has it the Sun rises in the East, according to men. Still, the Americans who believe the Sun rises in any direction other than the East remain overwhelmingly female.
The youngest adults have always been, by definition, Liberals. The more mature, more educated, less gullible, more experienced, more senior, more wise, have always been, by definition, Conservatives. As the young indoctrinated gullibles become mature and wiser, they open their eyes and become Conservative.
Shocking news!
Does this mean that tomorrow the Sun will also rise in the East, at least for Conservative men? How can this be? Shirley that is an unfounded prediction! It's not like it has been a reliable occurance for generations, has it?
Only those who fail to follow or conceive history would be surprised. Oh, that's right, the target audience for that story IS the unthinking, the drones, the uncomprehending, which by definition are the Liberals and other Democraps.
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Originally posted by second:
After many years of limited success against long-term homelessness, Finland decided to adopt the US 'Housing First' model on a national scale.
Houzing to solv the homeless problem? hqd u xunk?
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
After many years of limited success against long-term homelessness, Finland decided to adopt the US 'Housing First' model on a national scale.
Houzing to solv the homeless problem? hqd u xunk?
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com
hqd u xunk?
Having a hard time reading that sentence, J0.
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Quote:A Republican would exclude it as a solution, insisting that if only the homeless person would do this or that thing, whatever the first thing pops into the Republican's head, the problem would go away.
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
After many years of limited success against long-term homelessness, Finland decided to adopt the US 'Housing First' model on a national scale.
Houzing to solv the homeless problem? hqd u xunk?
In Finland, they put a value on everyone and the penniless homeless are worth spending $$109,142 to build them a comfortable living space with a bathroom and a shared kitchen. The $109,000 is paid back to Finland in 6 years because Finnish government has reduced costs for police, courts, prison, social services, emergency room visits when the homeless have a permanent address.
Going in the opposite direction from Finland, in America, their bank account determines an American’s value. Since the homeless Americans don’t have money in the bank, they are not worth helping if it will cost $109,000.
Americans have been cruel to the homeless, even killing them, for centuries. Why change this tradition? Why buy the homeless a house? It can’t be done with taxes because Republicans would be upset by government helping the worthless homeless. Leave the homeless to the charities, not to the merciless local governments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Histor
ical_background
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Unkl Skam providez homez for the homeless who earn it by committing a felony.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
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www.vox.com/2018/3/25/17162622/stormy-daniels-60-minutes-michael-avena
tti-abuse-power-bullying
Stormy Daniels: I was in a parking lot, going to a fitness class with my infant daughter. T-- taking, you know, the seats facing backwards in the backseat, diaper bag, you know, gettin’ all the stuff out. And a guy walked up on me and said to me, “Leave Trump alone. Forget the story.” And then he leaned around and looked at my daughter and said, “That’s a beautiful little girl. It’d be a shame if something happened to her mom.” And then he was gone.
Anderson Cooper: You took it as a direct threat?
Stormy Daniels: Absolutely.
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Quote:"Let’s look at the fact that there is an issue around how much we are paying — and again, this gets back to the economic cost — it costs us about $33,000 a year to lock somebody up. In California it costs about $75,000 a year," U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris said on July 18, 2017.
Originally posted by JO753:
Unkl Skam providez homez for the homeless who earn it by committing a felony.
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/aug/09/kamala-harris/doe
s-it-cost-75k-year-lock-inmate-california/
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Quote:You claim there is a savings due to the factor of "permanent address" - but that would not cause savings, and is not stated in the story.
Originally posted by second:Quote:A Republican would exclude it as a solution, insisting that if only the homeless person would do this or that thing, whatever the first thing pops into the Republican's head, the problem would go away.
Originally posted by JO753:Quote:Houzing to solv the homeless problem? hqd u xunk?
Originally posted by second:
After many years of limited success against long-term homelessness, Finland decided to adopt the US 'Housing First' model on a national scale.
In Finland, they put a value on everyone and the penniless homeless are worth spending $$109,142 to build them a comfortable living space with a bathroom and a shared kitchen. The $109,000 is paid back to Finland in 6 years because Finnish government has reduced costs for police, courts, prison, social services, emergency room visits when the homeless have a permanent address.
Going in the opposite direction from Finland, in America, their bank account determines an American’s value. Since the homeless Americans don’t have money in the bank, they are not worth helping if it will cost $109,000.
Americans have been cruel to the homeless, even killing them, for centuries. Why change this tradition? Why buy the homeless a house? It can’t be done with taxes because Republicans would be upset by government helping the worthless homeless. Leave the homeless to the charities, not to the merciless local governments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_United_States#Histor
ical_background
From what I read, the savings comes from the centralized community, and the round-thr-clock care. The trained care negates the need for unnecessary emergency medical/police, and the whole group at the same address instead of dozens of dispersed locations, that seems to be where the saving lie.
Focusing on those elements, simulating a more independent and active version of "retirement home" could really be productive across many nations.
If it is shown to save the community money, I would expect many Republicans would agree with it. The ideas throwing away good money on the worthless are the ones Democraps will support - any excuse to waste Government funds.
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Quote:You wrote: "If it is shown to save the community money, I would expect many Republicans would agree with it." You are too late, because it has already been shown to be true and it made no goddamn difference to the GOP.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You claim there is a savings due to the factor of "permanent address" - but that would not cause savings, and is not stated in the story.
From what I read, the savings comes from the centralized community, and the round-thr-clock care. The trained care negates the need for unnecessary emergency medical/police, and the whole group at the same address instead of dozens of dispersed locations, that seems to be where the saving lie.
Focusing on those elements, simulating a more independent and active version of "retirement home" could really be productive across many nations.
If it is shown to save the community money, I would expect many Republicans would agree with it. The ideas throwing away good money on the worthless are the ones Democraps will support - any excuse to waste Government funds.
Republicans strongly believe that no one has a right to a government benefit unless they have proved themselves to be deserving and worthy. Spending money on people who are NOT deserving and NOT worthy is something Republicans will NOT do, even if it would save money. Their hearts are opposed to the idea, calling the approach "public stupidity" rather than "public policy". But there is evidence that Housing First does work and does save money, just no evidence that any Republicans will ever support the idea once they understand what it is. It must be something in the GOP's DNA. https://endhomelessness.org/
http://endhomelessness.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/housing-first-fa
ct-sheet.pdf
Permanent supportive housing has been found to be cost efficient. Providing access to housing generally results in cost savings for communities because housed people are less likely to use emergency services, including hospitals, jails, and emergency shelter, than those who are homeless.
One study found an average cost savings on emergency services of $31,545 per person housed in a Housing First program over the course of two years. Another study showed that a Housing First program could cost up to $23,000 less per consumer per year than a shelter program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
Example of how a Republican would run a homeless program. Hopefully, you'd see how this program is designed to exclude people who are not worthy enough to be helped: Back on My Feet, a nonprofit which challenges homeless individuals to run over a 30-day period to boost self esteem and create a support network. Once they fulfill the requirement, workforce training and house support assistance are provided. (if you can't run, you get nothing because you are a worthless loser)
www.csmonitor.com/World/Making-a-difference/2018/0326/She-gives-a-sens
e-of-community-and-purpose-to-homeless-through-a-running-club
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Quote:Not sure if you are intentionally avoiding my point. Perhaps your hatred of sensible Republicans is fogging your viewing device.
Originally posted by second:Quote:You wrote: "If it is shown to save the community money, I would expect many Republicans would agree with it." You are too late, because it has already been shown to be true and it made no goddamn difference to the GOP.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You claim there is a savings due to the factor of "permanent address" - but that would not cause savings, and is not stated in the story.
From what I read, the savings comes from the centralized community, and the round-thr-clock care. The trained care negates the need for unnecessary emergency medical/police, and the whole group at the same address instead of dozens of dispersed locations, that seems to be where the saving lie.
Focusing on those elements, simulating a more independent and active version of "retirement home" could really be productive across many nations.
If it is shown to save the community money, I would expect many Republicans would agree with it. The ideas throwing away good money on the worthless are the ones Democraps will support - any excuse to waste Government funds.
Republicans strongly believe that no one has a right to a government benefit unless they have proved themselves to be deserving and worthy. Spending money on people who are NOT deserving and NOT worthy is something Republicans will NOT do, even if it would save money. Their hearts are opposed to the idea, calling the approach "public stupidity" rather than "public policy". But there is evidence that Housing First does work and does save money, just no evidence that any Republicans will ever support the idea once they understand what it is. It must be something in the GOP's DNA. https://endhomelessness.org/
http://endhomelessness.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/housing-first-fa
ct-sheet.pdf
Permanent supportive housing has been found to be cost efficient. Providing access to housing generally results in cost savings for communities because housed people are less likely to use emergency services, including hospitals, jails, and emergency shelter, than those who are homeless.
One study found an average cost savings on emergency services of $31,545 per person housed in a Housing First program over the course of two years. Another study showed that a Housing First program could cost up to $23,000 less per consumer per year than a shelter program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_First
Example of how a Republican would run a homeless program. Hopefully, you'd see how this program is designed to exclude people who are not worthy enough to be helped: Back on My Feet, a nonprofit which challenges homeless individuals to run over a 30-day period to boost self esteem and create a support network. Once they fulfill the requirement, workforce training and house support assistance are provided. (if you can't run, you get nothing because you are a worthless loser)
www.csmonitor.com/World/Making-a-difference/2018/0326/She-gives-a-sens
e-of-community-and-purpose-to-homeless-through-a-running-club
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You have shown no indication that US Models of homeless housing would have less cost than none. US models seem to have dispersed addresses instead of centralized address/community.
Your only claim of savings is for one wasteful spending spree costing less or more than a different wasteful spending spree, both with equal lack of benefit.
A saving of $16,000 per year while wastefully spending $109,000 per year does not equal a cost savings.
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If you meet the requirements ( slightly to the right, middle and liberal ) and you have an interest in starting a discussion say so.
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Quote:The cost is NOT $109,000 per year per person. The cost is $109,000, for one time only, to build the shelter. And the shelter can be reused if the homeless person gets a job and is ambitious enough to move out. I noticed a character issue or a personality issue with Republicans at fireflyfans.net. The Republicans don't try to understand how something works. That's why JewelStaiteFan sees a $109,000 per year cost rather than a one-time only $109,000 investment. You aren't even trying before you launch into writing: "Perhaps your hatred of sensible Republicans is fogging your viewing device." Driving an idea into the head of a Republican is like driving on a dirt road that has mud a foot deep. The wheels spin and the idea gets stuck. Forward progress requires me to get dirty and push the idea real hard, through mile after mile of mud. I just don't have the energy to do that for Republicans. It is easier to let them stay stuck while I drive around them in my Caterpillar, waving my hat. Good luck to you, JewelStaiteFan, you old stuck-in-the-mud!
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if you are intentionally avoiding my point. Perhaps your hatred of sensible Republicans is fogging your viewing device.
You have shown no indication that US Models of homeless housing would have less cost than none. US models seem to have dispersed addresses instead of centralized address/community.
Your only claim of savings is for one wasteful spending spree costing less or more than a different wasteful spending spree, both with equal lack of benefit.
A saving of $16,000 per year while wastefully spending $109,000 per year does not equal a cost savings.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/03/26/despite-porn-sta
rs-and-playboy-models-white-evangelicals-arent-rejecting-trump-this-is-why/?utm_term=.d2d6690f91aa
Why are white Christians sticking so closely to Trump, despite these claims of sexual indiscretions? And why are religious individuals and groups that previously decried sexual impropriety among political leaders suddenly willing to give Trump a “mulligan” on his infidelity?
Our new study points to a different answer than others have offered. Voters’ religious tenets aren’t actually what’s behind Trump support; rather, it’s Christian nationalism — their view of the United States as a fundamentally Christian nation.
Here’s how we did our research
To explore the link between Christian nationalism and Trump support, we examined data from the fifth wave of the Baylor Religion Survey. Fielded soon after the election, from Feb. 2 through March 24, 2017, this survey is a national, random sample of 1,501 American adults with telephones and is weighted to estimate population parameters. This data set is unique in its size, time of collection, and the measures it contains.
To measure Christian nationalism we combined responses to six separate questions that ask whether respondents agree or disagree with these statements:
1) “The federal government should declare the United States a Christian nation”
2) “The federal government should advocate Christian values”
3) “The federal government should enforce strict separation of church and state” (reverse coded)
4) “The federal government should allow the display of religious symbols in public spaces”
5) “The success of the United States is part of God’s plan”
6) “The federal government should allow prayer in public schools”
We also examined many other common explanations of support for Trump, including economic dissatisfaction, an index of attitudes on gender, an index of anti-black prejudice, a measure of respondents’ attitudes toward illegal immigrants and an index of views toward Muslims.
Finally, our statistical models also accounted for religious affiliation, religious beliefs, and a variety of religious behaviors, as well as political measures including party affiliation and political ideology, and sociodemographic predictors including age, gender, race, education, income, marital status, and residential context.
The more someone believed the United States is — and should be — a Christian nation, the more likely they were to vote for Trump
First, Americans who agreed with the various measures of Christian nationalism were much more likely to vote for Trump, even after controlling for a host of other influences, such as political ideology, political party, and other cultural factors proposed as possible explanations of Trump voting.
As you can see in the figure below, even when holding constant a host of other explanations, a Democrat at the higher end of the index was three times more likely to vote for Trump than a Democrat at the lower end of Christian nationalist ideology. For independents, the probability of voting for Trump increased moving across the range of the Christian nationalism scale. Likewise, Republicans scoring low in Christian nationalism were significantly less likely to vote for Trump than those scoring high on the index.
No other religious factor influenced support for or against Trump
Second, we find that Americans’ religious beliefs, behaviors and affiliation did not directly influence voting for Trump. In fact, once Christian nationalism was taken into account, other religious measures had no direct effect on how likely someone was to vote for Trump. These measures of religion mattered only if they made someone more likely to see the United States as a Christian nation.
Antagonism toward Muslims was just as important as Christian nationalism
Finally, the various cultural explanations that other researchers have examined didn’t predict Trump support in our study, with one notable exception: anti-Muslim sent
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Stormy Daniels, this is a delicate subject, but do you have pictures of the President’s, shall we say, executive branch?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:So they will never use utilities? They will never eat? OR, what ARE the annual costs? If these costs are $4,000 per year, the savings of $12,000 per year of Emergency Response Services compared to the $109,000 (in Finland) gives about 9 years return. Will the heating system not need to be replaced? No other aspect will need maintenance - surely the occupant will not perform maintenance?
Originally posted by second:Quote:The cost is NOT $109,000 per year per person. The cost is $109,000, for one time only, to build the shelter. And the shelter can be reused if the homeless person gets a job and is ambitious enough to move out. I noticed a character issue or a personality issue with Republicans at fireflyfans.net. The Republicans don't try to understand how something works. That's why JewelStaiteFan sees a $109,000 per year cost rather than a one-time only $109,000 investment. You aren't even trying before you launch into writing: "Perhaps your hatred of sensible Republicans is fogging your viewing device." Driving an idea into the head of a Republican is like driving on a dirt road that has mud a foot deep. The wheels spin and the idea gets stuck. Forward progress requires me to get dirty and push the idea real hard, through mile after mile of mud. I just don't have the energy to do that for Republicans. It is easier to let them stay stuck while I drive around them in my Caterpillar, waving my hat. Good luck to you, JewelStaiteFan, you old stuck-in-the-mud!
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not sure if you are intentionally avoiding my point. Perhaps your hatred of sensible Republicans is fogging your viewing device.
You have shown no indication that US Models of homeless housing would have less cost than none. US models seem to have dispersed addresses instead of centralized address/community.
Your only claim of savings is for one wasteful spending spree costing less or more than a different wasteful spending spree, both with equal lack of benefit.
A saving of $16,000 per year while wastefully spending $109,000 per year does not equal a cost savings.
Is that correct?
And if it is a Government project, it must be built at Union Wages, so the cost becomes $200,000 per unit. right?
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:So Anderson Cooper is the new Jerry Springer?
Originally posted by second:
Stormy Daniels, this is a delicate subject, but do you have pictures of the President’s, shall we say, executive branch?
Sounds like Fake News 60 Minutes continues to uphold the finest traditions in yellow smut journalism.
Ho hum.
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Quote:It’s currently fashionable to dismiss interest in the Daniels story as fundamentally reflecting nothing more than a prurient interest in Trump’s sex life. But the possibility of bribery and blackmail of Trump makes it impossible to fully separate out highbrow and lowbrow aspects of the scandal. The problem with the interview was that Cooper didn't ask enough questions because Cooper didn't really want to go to a very dangerous place:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So Anderson Cooper is the new Jerry Springer?
Sounds like Fake News 60 Minutes continues to uphold the finest traditions in yellow smut journalism.
Ho hum.
Stormy Daniels’s 60 Minutes interview was, in its way, fascinating. But it ultimately failed to shed light on the two most interesting questions that are dangerous to the whole country:
1) How many other sexual partners has Trump paid hush money to?
2) How many foreign intelligence services know about one or more of those women?
It’s obviously possible that shortly after his third wife gave birth to his fifth child, Donald Trump began the one and only adulterous affair of his life and then had his longtime lawyer/fixer write Daniels a six-figure check to shut her up.
But that would, obviously, fly in the face of our basic understanding of human behavior. It also contradicts Steve Bannon’s remarks in Fire and Fury when he says that another Trump attorney, Marc Kasowitz, “has gotten him out of all kinds of jams. Kasowitz on the campaign — what did we have, a hundred women? Kasowitz took care of all of them.” And the National Enquirer appears to have paid $150,000 to former Playboy centerfold Karen McDougal to try to keep her quiet.
For one reason or another, Trump is clearly quite committed to trying to prevent his former partners from discussing their dalliances in public. He and his associates are willing to put cash on the line for this, threaten massive legal consequences, and perhaps even engage in acts of physical intimidation.
And while that put Daniels under pressure, it means that entities with more power and sophistication than Daniels can use those secrets to put pressure on Trump.
Maybe Daniels and McDougal are the only women he’s ever paid off. Or maybe there are others out there but nobody from Russia or the United Arab Emirates or the Mossad or whoever hates the Japanese steel industry found out about it. Anything’s possible. But I have my doubts.
The president has successfully cultivated an image as so flaky and incompetent that his many baffling decisions on the world stage — from leaking Israeli intelligence to the Russian foreign minister to undercutting his own administration’s policy on Qatar to mysteriously leaving Japan off a list of allies exempted from steel tariffs — generally get written off as evidence that he is flaky and incompetent rather than being actively manipulated by foreign actors.
Precisely because a lot of people would be interested in embarrassing material about the president’s sex life — and because Trump, a very image-conscious person, could be very worried about that interest — the existence of embarrassing secrets could well be a national security crisis for the country.
If Trump is in the habit of making these kinds of payments, we need to have a full account of it. And the sooner, the better.
www.vox.com/2018/3/25/17162750/stormy-daniels-foreign-blackmail-60-min
utes-anderson-cooper-donald-trump
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sins Trump haz a long history uv bragging about hiz sexual encounterz, wut iz it he iz obviously trying to hide about this wun?
Being a porn star, I prezoom that Stormy haz been with fairly well endowed men in the performans uv her job. Therefor, its likely that Spanky didnt compare favorably to them.
Hiz biggest fear: the public revelation that he haz a little dick. Thats also wut Putin iz dangling over hiz hed!
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Originally posted by JO753:
Sins Trump haz a long history uv bragging about hiz sexual encounterz, wut iz it he iz obviously trying to hide about this wun?
Being a porn star, I prezoom that Stormy haz been with fairly well endowed men in the performans uv her job. Therefor, its likely that Spanky didnt compare favorably to them.
Hiz biggest fear: the public revelation that he haz a little dick. Thats also wut Putin iz dangling over hiz hed!
Aside from what Stormy Daniels may know about Trumps sexual habits, I think Trump is more afraid of the NDA unraveling. He has many of those type agreements with other women. If this one folds under scrutiny the dam may break. Add to that that his wife must be seriously considering the validity of her own prenup and leaving. Everyday she looks more and more like a fool for staying. She like the other women is another of Trumps victims.
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lol.
I'm sure she's a victim and didn't know that a powerful and rich man fools around when she married him for the wealth and power.
Stop calling people who aren't victims, victims.
Trump's wife is no more a victim that Clinton's wife was when he was cheating on her all the time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Cheating on her?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol.
I'm sure she's a victim and didn't know that a powerful and rich man fools around when she married him for the wealth and power.
Stop calling people who aren't victims, victims.
Trump's wife is no more a victim that Clinton's wife was when he was cheating on her all the time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
That is a highly biased phrase for saying he serially raped and sexually assaulted women during his marriage.
I had not heard the news that any of the Mrs. Trumps have been attacking, undermining, suing, covering up the women that Trump had sex with.
Regarding public image, I'm sure that most of his voters were aware he has lived in New York, and when he had enough money to live anywhere he still remained in the City of Floozies. He has never been any Teddy Roosevelt. For a Billionaire in Wyoming, Iowa, Kentucky, Alabama, the image might not sustain the revelation of a harem or stable. But the sleaze of NYC was well known before the election. It's not like Democraps offered an alternative.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Cheating on her?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol.
I'm sure she's a victim and didn't know that a powerful and rich man fools around when she married him for the wealth and power.
Stop calling people who aren't victims, victims.
Trump's wife is no more a victim that Clinton's wife was when he was cheating on her all the time.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
That is a highly biased phrase for saying he serially raped and sexually assaulted women during his marriage.
I had not heard the news that any of the Mrs. Trumps have been attacking, undermining, suing, covering up the women that Trump had sex with.
Regarding public image, I'm sure that most of his voters were aware he has lived in New York, and when he had enough money to live anywhere he still remained in the City of Floozies. He has never been any Teddy Roosevelt. For a Billionaire in Wyoming, Iowa, Kentucky, Alabama, the image might not sustain the revelation of a harem or stable. But the sleaze of NYC was well known before the election. It's not like Democraps offered an alternative.
I never said that Trump abused women. Oh, you mean Clinton.
I wasn't there to witness either of their extra curricular affairs. It's all hearsay.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Security Clearance Attorney Sean M. Bigley represents clients worldwide in security clearance denials and revocations. He is a former investigator for the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. He writes:
The more extreme the lengths a clearance holder goes to facilitate and hide the infidelity, the greater the security issue. [Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet.]
I advise clearance holders involved in such situations to begin taking steps to untangle themselves from any ongoing secondary relationship and, most importantly, to immediately cut any financial ties to that individual (e.g. cash payments, purchases of gifts, or expenditures on rent – or acceptance thereof) that show dependency. From a security standpoint, issues surrounding infidelity can sometimes be mitigated with the passage of time and a showing that no dependency (financial, emotional, or otherwise) remains for either party.
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2014/08/28/sex-lies-sf-86-causes-blackm
ail-among-clearance-holders/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
Security Clearance Attorney Sean M. Bigley represents clients worldwide in security clearance denials and revocations. He is a former investigator for the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. He writes:
The more extreme the lengths a clearance holder goes to facilitate and hide the infidelity, the greater the security issue. [Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet.]
I advise clearance holders involved in such situations to begin taking steps to untangle themselves from any ongoing secondary relationship and, most importantly, to immediately cut any financial ties to that individual (e.g. cash payments, purchases of gifts, or expenditures on rent – or acceptance thereof) that show dependency. From a security standpoint, issues surrounding infidelity can sometimes be mitigated with the passage of time and a showing that no dependency (financial, emotional, or otherwise) remains for either party.
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2014/08/28/sex-lies-sf-86-causes-blackm
ail-among-clearance-holders/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
It should be noted that nowhere in the article linked did Mr. Bigley once say that "Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet." In fact, the article itself doesn't mention Trump or the position of President at all.
This was just Second putting his own spin on the article in a disingenuous way, with an outlandish claim and no citations.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Not sure if you overlooked something.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:It should be noted that nowhere in the article linked did Mr. Bigley once say that "Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet." In fact, the article itself doesn't mention Trump or the position of President at all.
Originally posted by second:
Security Clearance Attorney Sean M. Bigley represents clients worldwide in security clearance denials and revocations. He is a former investigator for the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. He writes:
The more extreme the lengths a clearance holder goes to facilitate and hide the infidelity, the greater the security issue. [Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet.]
I advise clearance holders involved in such situations to begin taking steps to untangle themselves from any ongoing secondary relationship and, most importantly, to immediately cut any financial ties to that individual (e.g. cash payments, purchases of gifts, or expenditures on rent – or acceptance thereof) that show dependency. From a security standpoint, issues surrounding infidelity can sometimes be mitigated with the passage of time and a showing that no dependency (financial, emotional, or otherwise) remains for either party.
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2014/08/28/sex-lies-sf-86-causes-blackm
ail-among-clearance-holders/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
This was just Second putting his own spin on the article in a disingenuous way, with an outlandish claim and no citations.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump is NOT a Clearance Holder. No President holds any Clearance, nor applies for any Clearance. Otherwise Clinton and Obama never would have been allowed to fill the seat.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Not sure if you overlooked something.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:It should be noted that nowhere in the article linked did Mr. Bigley once say that "Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet." In fact, the article itself doesn't mention Trump or the position of President at all.
Originally posted by second:
Security Clearance Attorney Sean M. Bigley represents clients worldwide in security clearance denials and revocations. He is a former investigator for the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. He writes:
The more extreme the lengths a clearance holder goes to facilitate and hide the infidelity, the greater the security issue. [Trump has gone to the extreme, stopping just short of murdering Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal to keep them quiet.]
I advise clearance holders involved in such situations to begin taking steps to untangle themselves from any ongoing secondary relationship and, most importantly, to immediately cut any financial ties to that individual (e.g. cash payments, purchases of gifts, or expenditures on rent – or acceptance thereof) that show dependency. From a security standpoint, issues surrounding infidelity can sometimes be mitigated with the passage of time and a showing that no dependency (financial, emotional, or otherwise) remains for either party.
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2014/08/28/sex-lies-sf-86-causes-blackm
ail-among-clearance-holders/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
This was just Second putting his own spin on the article in a disingenuous way, with an outlandish claim and no citations.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump is NOT a Clearance Holder. No President holds any Clearance, nor applies for any Clearance. Otherwise Clinton and Obama never would have been allowed to fill the seat.
I didn't overlook that. Trump might not be a Clearance Holder, but I don't think anyone would want a President on either side to be in somebody's blackmail pocket regardless.
That goes for goldigging ex porn star bitches as much as it goes for Putin or the Prince of Qatar.
So I get where Second was coming from with that part of the article.
But here's the thing...
I think there's a pretty good chance he did it. But really, what does that matter in 2018? He's probably going to do what any husband in that situation SHOULD do and deny it until it's impossible to deny it anymore and hope it goes away in the mean time. My old man's guilt got to him and he told my mom instead of keeping that shit to himself. The only thing that accomplished was destroying her psyche for the next two decades, ruining three childhoods, and forcing him to move back in with his mom for the next decade to save for a 2nd home and life.
It's already been proven that Trump doesn't have any shame. I don't think he really gives a shit what the American people think about his extra-marital affairs. Really... why should he? Tiger Woods still plays golf. Hell... it's almost every other day we hear about another celebrity cheating on their spouse.
Unless Stormy has some extremely weird fetish stuff videotaped that will make the Bible Bouncers pronounce him a Demon or something, none of this is going to ever be proven, let alone talked about anymore by 2019. It all happened so long ago and was way before he ever had any intentions to run for President, he's never going to have to lie in a federal case about it like Clinton did.
All I was commenting on here was the disingenuous way that Second presented the story as if this guy were being interviewed about Trump when he wasn't. Also the conjecture that Trump did everything short of murdering women to hide it when there was no evidence provided for that claim.
Do Right, Be Right.
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Quote:You've turned into a regular little philosopher, haven't you? So careful and precise, now using big words. I will give you something to philosophize about, something you can complain about not meeting your rigorous standards. I can not say what is really happening with Trump because that fucker won't tell the truth about anything and Robert Mueller is in no hurry to inform us of what the truth is, since Trump will fire Mueller on the day the truth is even partially revealed:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I was commenting on here was the disingenuous way that Second presented the story as if this guy were being interviewed about Trump when he wasn't. Also the conjecture that Trump did everything short of murdering women to hide it when there was no evidence provided for that claim.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
What happens when fearful Trump absolutely must bribe another woman, maybe a hundred women, but she or they won’t take the bribe, unlike Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels?
What if Trump needs to threaten the mystery woman or women to keep her or them silent, but he can’t because she or they are secretly working for the Russians? It sounds like the movie Red Sparrow with Jennifer Lawrence working for the Russians.
For all we know, foolish old Trump, with complete disregard for any of the guidelines his cabinet members must follow about maintaining national security, has stumbled into a real life version of a Jennifer Lawrence movie. He might be living in a Hollywood script with a screenwriting credit going to Vladimir Putin. Except there won’t be a happy ending to Trump’s movie. Just because a President does not need a Security Clearance, Trump can still be a Security Risk to America. And he is not helping by lying about everything, constantly.
A review of Red Sparrow: “Trying to split the difference between trashy and classy, Red Sparrow is a sleek, juiced-up espionage thriller that overdoes everything: its brutal violence, its dramatic flourishes, its hairpin plot twists, and most certainly its sexpot shamelessness.”
www.metacritic.com/movie/red-sparrow
Trump’s real life story is more like a TV soap opera than a two hour movie. He has entertained us by taking America to strange and dramatic places, one or more new episodes every day, since 2016.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Putting the Ex-Con in Conservatism
By Paul Krugman
March 26, 2018
In 2010 an explosion at a coal mine operated by Massey Energy killed 29 men. In 2015 Don Blankenship, the company’s former C.E.O., was sent to prison for conspiring to violate mine safety standards. In 2018, Blankenship appears to have a real chance at becoming the Republican candidate for senator from West Virginia.
Blankenship is one of four Republicans with criminal convictions running for office this year, several of whom may well win their party’s nominations. And there is a much broader list of Republican politicians facing credible accusations of huge ethical lapses who nonetheless emerged victorious in G.O.P. primaries, ranging from Roy Moore to, well, Donald Trump.
To be sure, there have been plenty of crooked Democrats. But usually the revelation of their crookedness ended their political careers. What’s striking about today’s Republican landscape is that people who are obvious crooks, con men or worse continue to attract strong support from the party’s base. Moore narrowly lost in Alabama’s special election, but he received 91 percent of the votes of self-identified Republicans.
And Trump, although unprecedentedly unpopular for a president at this stage of his term, continues to receive overwhelming support from the G.O.P. base. Some Republican politicians have openly admitted that this makes the party’s congressional wing unwilling to hold Trump accountable for even the most spectacular malfeasance, up to and including possible collusion with a hostile foreign power.
What’s going on here? I don’t think it’s an accident that the modern G.O.P. contains so many crooks and that these crooks seem to thrive in intraparty politics. On the contrary, the success of people like Blankenship — or Trump — was an inevitable consequence of the political strategy Republicans have followed for decades. For the simple truth is that ever since Reagan, Republicans have basically played a con game on American voters.
Their sustained, invariant agenda has been upward redistribution of income: cutting taxes on the rich while weakening the social safety net. This agenda is unpopular: Only a small minority of Americans wants to see tax cuts for the wealthy, and an even smaller minority wants cuts to major social programs. Yet Republicans have won elections partly by denying the reality of their policy agenda, but mainly by posing as defenders of traditional social values — above all, that greatest of American traditions, racism.
And this sustained reliance on the big con has, over time, exerted a strong selection effect both on the party’s leadership and on its base. G.O.P. politicians tend disproportionately to be con men (and in some cases, con women), because playing the party’s political game requires both a willingness to and a talent for saying one thing while doing another. And the party’s base consists disproportionately of the easily conned — those who are easily fooled by claims that Those People are the problem and don’t notice how much the true Republican agenda hurts them.
The point is that Trumpism was more or less fated to happen. Trump’s crude racism and blatant dishonesty are only exaggerated versions of what his party has been selling for decades, while his substantive policy agenda — slashing taxes on corporations and the wealthy, taking health care away from lower-income families — is utterly orthodox.
Even his protectionism is less of a departure from Republican norms than people imagine. George W. Bush put tariffs on steel, while Reagan limited imports of Japanese autos. Cutting taxes on the rich is a fundamental G.O.P. principle; free trade isn’t.
More at www.nytimes.com/2018/03/26/opinion/conservatism-honesty-crime-gop.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Crooks like despicable Murderer Tedward Kennedy (Chappaquiddick film out next month), serial rapist Perpetrator-in-Chief Clinton? Golly, those revelations must have ended their political aspirations!!
Originally posted by second:
Putting the Ex-Con in Conservatism
By Paul Krugman
March 26, 2018
In 2010 an explosion at a coal mine operated by Massey Energy killed 29 men. In 2015 Don Blankenship, the company’s former C.E.O., was sent to prison for conspiring to violate mine safety standards. In 2018, Blankenship appears to have a real chance at becoming the Republican candidate for senator from West Virginia.
Blankenship is one of four Republicans with criminal convictions running for office this year, several of whom may well win their party’s nominations. And there is a much broader list of Republican politicians facing credible accusations of huge ethical lapses who nonetheless emerged victorious in G.O.P. primaries, ranging from Roy Moore to, well, Donald Trump.
To be sure, there have been plenty of crooked Democrats. But usually the revelation of their crookedness ended their political careers. What’s striking about today’s Republican landscape is that people who are obvious crooks, con men or worse continue to attract strong support from the party’s base. Moore narrowly lost in Alabama’s special election, but he received 91 percent of the votes of self-identified Republicans.
And Trump, although unprecedentedly unpopular for a president at this stage of his term, continues to receive overwhelming support from the G.O.P. base. Some Republican politicians have openly admitted that this makes the party’s congressional wing unwilling to hold Trump accountable for even the most spectacular malfeasance, up to and including possible collusion with a hostile foreign power.
What’s going on here? I don’t think it’s an accident that the modern G.O.P. contains so many crooks and that these crooks seem to thrive in intraparty politics. On the contrary, the success of people like Blankenship — or Trump — was an inevitable consequence of the political strategy Republicans have followed for decades. For the simple truth is that ever since Reagan, Republicans have basically played a con game on American voters.
Their sustained, invariant agenda has been upward redistribution of income: cutting taxes on the rich while weakening the social safety net. This agenda is unpopular: Only a small minority of Americans wants to see tax cuts for the wealthy, and an even smaller minority wants cuts to major social programs. Yet Republicans have won elections partly by denying the reality of their policy agenda, but mainly by posing as defenders of traditional social values — above all, that greatest of American traditions, racism.
And this sustained reliance on the big con has, over time, exerted a strong selection effect both on the party’s leadership and on its base. G.O.P. politicians tend disproportionately to be con men (and in some cases, con women), because playing the party’s political game requires both a willingness to and a talent for saying one thing while doing another. And the party’s base consists disproportionately of the easily conned — those who are easily fooled by claims that Those People are the problem and don’t notice how much the true Republican agenda hurts them.
The point is that Trumpism was more or less fated to happen. Trump’s crude racism and blatant dishonesty are only exaggerated versions of what his party has been selling for decades, while his substantive policy agenda — slashing taxes on corporations and the wealthy, taking health care away from lower-income families — is utterly orthodox.
Even his protectionism is less of a departure from Republican norms than people imagine. George W. Bush put tariffs on steel, while Reagan limited imports of Japanese autos. Cutting taxes on the rich is a fundamental G.O.P. principle; free trade isn’t.
More at www.nytimes.com/2018/03/26/opinion/conservatism-honesty-crime-gop.html
Nytimes. This is where you fail.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You've turned into a regular little philosopher, haven't you? So careful and precise, now using big words. I will give you something to philosophize about, something you can complain about not meeting your rigorous standards. I can not say what is really happening with Trump because that fucker won't tell the truth about anything and Robert Mueller is in no hurry to inform us of what the truth is, since Trump will fire Mueller on the day the truth is even partially revealed:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I was commenting on here was the disingenuous way that Second presented the story as if this guy were being interviewed about Trump when he wasn't. Also the conjecture that Trump did everything short of murdering women to hide it when there was no evidence provided for that claim.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sorry not sorry that I made you go to dictionary.com to understand my reply.
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What happens when fearful Trump absolutely must bribe another woman, maybe a hundred women, but she or they won’t take the bribe, unlike Karen McDougal and Stormy Daniels?
What if Trump needs to threaten the mystery woman or women to keep her or them silent, but he can’t because she or they are secretly working for the Russians? It sounds like the movie Red Sparrow with Jennifer Lawrence working for the Russians.
For all we know, foolish old Trump, with complete disregard for any of the guidelines his cabinet members must follow about maintaining national security, has stumbled into a real life version of a Jennifer Lawrence movie. He might be living in a Hollywood script with a screenwriting credit going to Vladimir Putin. Except there won’t be a happy ending to Trump’s movie. Just because a President does not need a Security Clearance, Trump can still be a Security Risk to America. And he is not helping by lying about everything, constantly.
A review of Red Sparrow: “Trying to split the difference between trashy and classy, Red Sparrow is a sleek, juiced-up espionage thriller that overdoes everything: its brutal violence, its dramatic flourishes, its hairpin plot twists, and most certainly its sexpot shamelessness.”
www.metacritic.com/movie/red-sparrow
Trump’s real life story is more like a TV soap opera than a two hour movie. He has entertained us by taking America to strange and dramatic places, one or more new episodes every day, since 2016.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
What if, what if, what if....
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The Wall Street Journal reports today that IRS audits of rich people (yearly income over $1,000,000) declined by 25 percent in 2017. Kevin Drum helpfully extrapolated the trendline since 2011 (when the GOP gained control of Congress and the budget the IRS can spend on audits) so that rich people know when the IRS is likely to simply stop auditing them at all. It’s only four years away! Happy days are here again if only the GOP can keep those damn liberals out of power long enough.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/03/more-good-news-for-rich-people/
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Quote:If Trump keeps threatening to destroy women he had sex with, he is the one who will be destroyed, assuming that Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal aren't the only ones he paid off. Trump can't keep pulling this stunt over and over without consequences for himself. He will end up like Harvey Weinstein. Even though Daniels isn’t accusing him of sexual misconduct, her story offers yet more evidence that Trump’s #MeToo moment may be long overdue. If some of those women are Natasha Fatale, Trump will be in more trouble than Weinstein.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What if, what if, what if....
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.vox.com/2018/3/26/17162718/stormy-daniels-60-minutes-trump-porn-st
ar-affair-consent
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What if, what if, what if...
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Quote:It is not all "what if". Trump’s Lawyer’s Lawyer Now Says Trump’s Lawyer Wasn’t Actually Trump’s Lawyer. Reading the article makes me think, "How can these guys get this Stormy Daniels lawsuit so tangled and confused? There is no way this is their best legal strategy. It must be them reacting to Trump's confused thinking."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What if, what if, what if...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/michael-cohens-lawyer-sugg
ests-that-michael-cohen-is-not-trumps-lawyer.html
Then there are simplifying tweets, complete with video of Trump's lawyer's lawyer, that make it less abstract:
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/979356845394546689
https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/979355634599645184
The comments in the tweets clarify that Trump and his lawyers were bluffing with legalese, hoping the contract would never see light of day... Now they got called on the carpet and don’t know what to do.
I know what Trump needs to do: Every single one of Trump's non-disclosure agreements must now be disclosed to the public. But Trump has refused, as he refused to disclose to Robert Mueller any year of his last 50 years of income tax returns. If you can believe Trump, all 50 years are being audited by the IRS. "Believe me." -- Donald J Trump
It would be very Presidential and dignified of Trump, the loudmouth who keeps shouting that he is innocent, if he would behave innocently. But I don't think he can do it. He keeps acting too guilty to believably fake innocence. Give Trump a few more years under steady pressure and he will crackup. His screaming nervous breakdown should be entertaining and newsworthy.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Did Sessions recuse himself from Tax filings prior to 2015?
Originally posted by second:Quote:It is not all "what if". Trump’s Lawyer’s Lawyer Now Says Trump’s Lawyer Wasn’t Actually Trump’s Lawyer. Reading the article makes me think, "How can these guys get this Stormy Daniels lawsuit so tangled and confused? There is no way this is their best legal strategy. It must be them reacting to Trump's confused thinking."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What if, what if, what if...
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/michael-cohens-lawyer-sugg
ests-that-michael-cohen-is-not-trumps-lawyer.html
Then there are simplifying tweets, complete with video of Trump's lawyer's lawyer, that make it less abstract:
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/979356845394546689
https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/979355634599645184
The comments in the tweets clarify that Trump and his lawyers were bluffing with legalese, hoping the contract would never see light of day... Now they got called on the carpet and don’t know what to do.
I know what Trump needs to do: Every single one of Trump's non-disclosure agreements must now be disclosed to the public. But Trump has refused, as he refused to disclose to Robert Mueller any year of his last 50 years of income tax returns. If you can believe Trump, all 50 years are being audited by the IRS. "Believe me." -- Donald J Trump
It would be very Presidential and dignified of Trump, the loudmouth who keeps shouting that he is innocent, if he would behave innocently. But I don't think he can do it. He keeps acting too guilty to believably fake innocence. Give Trump a few more years under steady pressure and he will crackup. His screaming nervous breakdown should be entertaining and newsworthy.
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Hey SECOND, how is it people still don't understand that Trumps financial ties to anything Russia, which may be revealed in Trumps taxes, is important because it may show if Putin has his hooks in Trump.
Hey jack, if you don't have any trusted reputable sources of information, than you are ignorant and need to realize your thoughts and concerns are groundless, or not based on any good reason or reality.
T
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Was Manafort a Russian plant?
tick tock tick tock
T
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey SECOND, how is it people still don't understand that Trumps financial ties to anything Russia, which may be revealed in Trumps taxes, is important because it may show if Putin has his hooks in Trump.
Hey jack, if you don't have any trusted reputable sources of information, than you are ignorant and need to realize your thoughts and concerns are groundless, or not based on any good reason or reality.
T
The IRS already knows what is in them. They have from the beginning.
Does the IRS not work for the US Government now?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Now, the argument could be made that there might be transactions that aren't traceable because they weren't properly filed and that money could be involved with Russia that wasn't on the books...
But the problem with that is two fold.
1) The tax returns would not show any of this.
2) An IRS audit of his finances should discover this, in theory.
This is all in the IRS's court now. Releasing thousands of pages for Maddow's team to sift through isn't going to do anybody any good except for Maddow and the MSM ratings.
Fix your fucking signature.
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Quote:6ix, you could be a spokesman for the GOP because you are very good at appearing to give explanations that stop the critics in their tracks. But you are faking knowledge you don’t have. And sometimes you simply write things that are the opposite of factual.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey SECOND, how is it people still don't understand that Trumps financial ties to anything Russia, which may be revealed in Trumps taxes, is important because it may show if Putin has his hooks in Trump.
Hey jack, if you don't have any trusted reputable sources of information, than you are ignorant and need to realize your thoughts and concerns are groundless, or not based on any good reason or reality.
T
The IRS already knows what is in them. They have from the beginning.
Does the IRS not work for the US Government now?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Now, the argument could be made that there might be transactions that aren't traceable because they weren't properly filed and that money could be involved with Russia that wasn't on the books...
But the problem with that is two fold.
1) The tax returns would not show any of this.
2) An IRS audit of his finances should discover this, in theory.
This is all in the IRS's court now. Releasing thousands of pages for Maddow's team to sift through isn't going to do anybody any good except for Maddow and the MSM ratings.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I point you to a table showing $3.44 trillion of unpaid taxes. You might think that is a mighty powerful motivation for the IRS, even more powerful than making sure the President is not a tax thief. You’d be wrong, even if you say the ball is in the IRS court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_evasion_in_the_United_States#Estimat
es_of_lost_government_revenue
Why did the IRS not collect $3.44 trillion? It is the same reason as why the IRS has not discovered Trump is a tax cheat. The IRS does not have a budget large enough to find the tax cheating.
Income tax audits plummet as IRS loses agents to budget cuts
www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-irs-audits-budget-cuts-2017
0305-story.html
Trump Budget Continues Multi-Year Assault on IRS Funding Despite Mnuchin’s Call for More Resources
www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trump-budget-continues-multi-year
-assault-on-irs-funding-despite-mnuchins
IRS income tax audits plummet as agency faces budget cuts
www.csmonitor.com/USA/2017/0306/IRS-income-tax-audits-plummet-as-agenc
y-faces-budget-cuts
“I think there are a certain group of people that will always try to push the envelope to get away with things that they think they can get away with.” I think Trump is in "a certain group of people". Remember the $3.44 trillion? Some of that could be in Trump's $10 billion fortune.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Matthew Yglesias wrote about being out of the daily news cycle for the first time in a while:
Diving back in kind of reminds me of Charlton Heston waking from his space travel to discover that he’s on a planet run by orangutans. Except instead of orangutans**, we have the Republican Party.
Here’s what’s been going on:
1) After the White House fully participated in the negotiation of a bipartisan omnibus appropriation bill, up to and including multiple formal statements of administration support, the president tweeted a threat to veto the bill. He then signed it after all at a press event where he also denounced it.
2) At that press event, the president said the only reason he was signing it was that it provided vitally necessary money for the Defense Department. In private, he keeps saying he regrets signing it and really the military should divert money from its account to build a border wall. (This is unconstitutional, FYI, that’s why they write appropriations bills.)
3) The administration retaliated for Russia’s annoying habit of assassinating residents of Western countries by expelling some diplomats. But Trump — who is under intense suspicion of unseemly ties to the Russian government — has said absolutely nothing about it personally, even though that would be an easy way to dispel the rumors he’s being blackmailed sexually by Russian intelligence services.
4) Speaking of sexual blackmail, a porn actress and a former Playboy centerfold have both come forward to say they received covert hush money payments to keep their dalliances with Trump secret. Republicans on the Hill have made zero effort to try to figure out exactly how compromised (and by whom) the president is.
5) Danny Vinik published a devastating exposé in Politico showing that the Trump administration systematically favored Texas over Puerto Rico in the disbursement of hurricane relief. It made basically no impact on the discourse.
To be fair to Trump, the other thing that happens if you step away from the news cycle is you see that things are basically fine. During the election, I saw two possible scenarios for a Trump administration. Down one road lay cataclysm, whereas down another road Trump would pleasantly surprise us with his job performance.
Reality has confounded both expectations, with Trump displaying no hidden depths whatsoever, even as life continues to be basically fine for most people. America has its share of problems to be sure: sky-high child poverty rate, unsustainable greenhouse gas emissions, infrastructure woes, childcare woes, prescription drug affordability woes, you name it.
But these are basically longstanding issues that our political system writ large has failed to address. They don’t hold a particularly close relationship to the fact that the president is a racist buffoon who is possibly being blackmailed by the FSB over some sex tapes.
Note ** In 1968’s Planet of the Apes and its sequels, political authority was vested in orangutans and chimpanzees served as a kind of scientist and intellectual caste.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/30/17170716/trump-surreal-night
mare
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you could be a spokesman for the GOP because you are very good at appearing to give explanations that stop the critics in their tracks. But you are faking knowledge you don’t have. And sometimes you simply write things that are the opposite of factual.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey SECOND, how is it people still don't understand that Trumps financial ties to anything Russia, which may be revealed in Trumps taxes, is important because it may show if Putin has his hooks in Trump.
Hey jack, if you don't have any trusted reputable sources of information, than you are ignorant and need to realize your thoughts and concerns are groundless, or not based on any good reason or reality.
T
The IRS already knows what is in them. They have from the beginning.
Does the IRS not work for the US Government now?
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
Now, the argument could be made that there might be transactions that aren't traceable because they weren't properly filed and that money could be involved with Russia that wasn't on the books...
But the problem with that is two fold.
1) The tax returns would not show any of this.
2) An IRS audit of his finances should discover this, in theory.
This is all in the IRS's court now. Releasing thousands of pages for Maddow's team to sift through isn't going to do anybody any good except for Maddow and the MSM ratings.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I point you to a table showing $3.44 trillion of unpaid taxes. You might think that is a mighty powerful motivation for the IRS, even more powerful than making sure the President is not a tax thief. You’d be wrong, even if you say the ball is in the IRS court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_evasion_in_the_United_States#Estimat
es_of_lost_government_revenue
Why did the IRS not collect $3.44 trillion? It is the same reason as why the IRS has not discovered Trump is a tax cheat. The IRS does not have a budget large enough to find the tax cheating.
Income tax audits plummet as IRS loses agents to budget cuts
www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-irs-audits-budget-cuts-2017
0305-story.html
Trump Budget Continues Multi-Year Assault on IRS Funding Despite Mnuchin’s Call for More Resources
www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trump-budget-continues-multi-year
-assault-on-irs-funding-despite-mnuchins
IRS income tax audits plummet as agency faces budget cuts
www.csmonitor.com/USA/2017/0306/IRS-income-tax-audits-plummet-as-agenc
y-faces-budget-cuts
“I think there are a certain group of people that will always try to push the envelope to get away with things that they think they can get away with.” I think Trump is in "a certain group of people". Remember the $3.44 trillion? Some of that could be in Trump's $10 billion fortune.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
lol... Jesus Christ. Trumps got you Lefty Loony Tunes so messed up right now that you're calling for an increase in the IRS budget?
I've heard you idiots say time and time again that he wont' show his tax returns because it would show that he's broke. Now you're trying to argue 3.44 trillion in unpaid debt that the IRS won't go after, as if to say that a large part of that would be his?
There is no reason to release it to the public, other than to farm out their job to the likes of Rachel Maddow's team. They aren't Trump's dirty little secret. The IRS has them. He's one man. All it would take is a Woodward and Berstein in the IRS department doing a little overtime to pull a Nixon on him if there's anything damning in there.
Don't hide behind a lack of f
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Quote:I see precisely why you are poor; too bad for you that you won't see what I see. The National Debt is $3.44 trillion higher than it should be because the biggest, smartest taxpayers know the IRS cannot penetrate their cheating. The IRS needs to hire more forensic accountants to go after the tax evaders, but it can't pay for more accountants, thanks to Congress. I could prove this with my own tax returns, but then I would have proved I don't deserve to be in that highly selective group of the biggest, smartest taxpayers, which Trump has been a leading member for the last 50 years.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... Jesus Christ. Trumps got you Lefty Loony Tunes so messed up right now that you're calling for an increase in the IRS budget?
I've heard you idiots say time and time again that he wont' show his tax returns because it would show that he's broke. Now you're trying to argue 3.44 trillion in unpaid debt that the IRS won't go after, as if to say that a large part of that would be his?
There is no reason to release it to the public, other than to farm out their job to the likes of Rachel Maddow's team. They aren't Trump's dirty little secret. The IRS has them. He's one man. All it would take is a Woodward and Berstein in the IRS department doing a little overtime to pull a Nixon on him if there's anything damning in there.
Don't hide behind a lack of funds. That's such a bullshit cop out and you know it.
There's going to be a sharp drop in job duties around there in a couple of weeks. I'm sure they can come up with something.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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In a recent Stanford study, participants were presented with brief passages about crime in a hypothetical city named Addison. For half of the participants, a few words were subtly changed to describe crime as a “virus infecting” the city. For the other half, crime was described as a “beast preying” on the city. Otherwise, the passages remained exactly the same.
Simply changing a few words in the passage dramatically changed people’s ideas of how crime should be dealt with. When asked to come up with solutions for crime, those who read the passage with the “beast” metaphor thought that crime should be dealt with by using more punitive solutions, such as longer jail time. Those who read the passage with the “virus” metaphor thought crime should be dealt with using more reformative measures that addressed the root causes of crime. And the metaphor alone caused an even bigger difference in opinion than pre-existing differences between Republicans and Democrats.
https://qz.com/1241030
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I see precisely why you are poor; too bad for you that you won't see what I see. The National Debt is $3.44 trillion higher than it should be because the biggest, smartest taxpayers know the IRS cannot penetrate their cheating. The IRS needs to hire more forensic accountants to go after the tax evaders, but it can't pay for more accountants, thanks to Congress. I could prove this with my own tax returns, but then I would have proved I don't deserve to be in that highly selective group of the biggest, smartest taxpayers, which Trump has been a leading member for the last 50 years.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... Jesus Christ. Trumps got you Lefty Loony Tunes so messed up right now that you're calling for an increase in the IRS budget?
I've heard you idiots say time and time again that he wont' show his tax returns because it would show that he's broke. Now you're trying to argue 3.44 trillion in unpaid debt that the IRS won't go after, as if to say that a large part of that would be his?
There is no reason to release it to the public, other than to farm out their job to the likes of Rachel Maddow's team. They aren't Trump's dirty little secret. The IRS has them. He's one man. All it would take is a Woodward and Berstein in the IRS department doing a little overtime to pull a Nixon on him if there's anything damning in there.
Don't hide behind a lack of funds. That's such a bullshit cop out and you know it.
There's going to be a sharp drop in job duties around there in a couple of weeks. I'm sure they can come up with something.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm not poor. I'm one of the few people in this country who own their house free and clear.
Idiot.
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Quote:You are bragging about your shack in a flood zone, 6ix. I remember what you wrote about not knowing because by law nobody had to tell you. I've traveled all through Central and South America and have seen a million proud homeowners that can brag exactly the same as you about their dirt floor shack that could be destroyed in next hard rain, but it is free and clear of any mortgage! Which reminds me that neither you nor Trump have any detailed ideas about how a business really works. He tweeted something stupid this morning, and he has been told repeatedly that he got it wrong, but he can't learn:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not poor. I'm one of the few people in this country who own their house free and clear.
Idiot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
While we are on the subject, it is reported that the U.S. Post Office will lose $1.50 on average for each package it delivers for Amazon. That amounts to Billions of Dollars. If the P.O. “increased its parcel rates, Amazon’s shipping costs would rise by $2.6 Billion.” This Post Office scam must stop. Amazon must pay real costs (and taxes) now!
5:45 AM - 31 Mar 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/980063581592047617
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/980065419632566272
Many have already pointed out that Amazon isn’t ripping off the Post Office. “The conventional wisdom is that Amazon has actually been a rare boon for the financially battered Postal Service,” wrote Slate’s Jordan Weissmann. Even Trump allies have reportedly tried to explain to the president why his views are misguided, but he’s having none of it. “The whole post office thing, that’s very much a perception he has,” a source told Axios earlier this week. “It’s been explained to him in multiple meetings that his perception is inaccurate and that the post office actually makes a ton of money from Amazon.”
Although some analysis have claimed that the Postal Service undercharges Amazon, they reach that number “by re-allocating the Post Office’s benefits costs—not the costs specific to package delivery,” notes CBS News, which points out that package delivery is one of the few lines of business that is actually growing. Plus there’s the pesky detail that it would technically be against the law for the Postal Service to lose money on delivering packages. CBS News explains:
The 2006 law also mandated that each line of business within the postal service cover its attributable costs. In other words, for the postal service to lose money on package delivery would be against the law.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/trump-blasts-amazon-for-po
st-office-scam-says-washington-post-should-register-as-lobbyist.html
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Quote:That PS stuff soubds like BS. The USPS has lost money on each package for a long time. And also has institutionalized lying about the costs and revenue. They move the numbers to a different column on a sheet and proclaim any problem solved.
Originally posted by second:Quote:You are bragging about your shack in a flood zone, 6ix. I remember what you wrote about not knowing because by law nobody had to tell you. I've traveled all through Central and South America and have seen a million proud homeowners that can brag exactly the same as you about their dirt floor shack that could be destroyed in next hard rain, but it is free and clear of any mortgage! Which reminds me that neither you nor Trump have any detailed ideas about how a business really works. He tweeted something stupid this morning, and he has been told repeatedly that he got it wrong, but he can't learn:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not poor. I'm one of the few people in this country who own their house free and clear.
Idiot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
While we are on the subject, it is reported that the U.S. Post Office will lose $1.50 on average for each package it delivers for Amazon. That amounts to Billions of Dollars. If the P.O. “increased its parcel rates, Amazon’s shipping costs would rise by $2.6 Billion.” This Post Office scam must stop. Amazon must pay real costs (and taxes) now!
5:45 AM - 31 Mar 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/980063581592047617
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/980065419632566272
Many have already pointed out that Amazon isn’t ripping off the Post Office. “The conventional wisdom is that Amazon has actually been a rare boon for the financially battered Postal Service,” wrote Slate’s Jordan Weissmann. Even Trump allies have reportedly tried to explain to the president why his views are misguided, but he’s having none of it. “The whole post office thing, that’s very much a perception he has,” a source told Axios earlier this week. “It’s been explained to him in multiple meetings that his perception is inaccurate and that the post office actually makes a ton of money from Amazon.”
Although some analysis have claimed that the Postal Service undercharges Amazon, they reach that number “by re-allocating the Post Office’s benefits costs—not the costs specific to package delivery,” notes CBS News, which points out that package delivery is one of the few lines of business that is actually growing. Plus there’s the pesky detail that it would technically be against the law for the Postal Service to lose money on delivering packages. CBS News explains:
The 2006 law also mandated that each line of business within the postal service cover its attributable costs. In other words, for the postal service to lose money on package delivery would be against the law.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/trump-blasts-amazon-for-po
st-office-scam-says-washington-post-should-register-as-lobbyist.html
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It's not a shack. It's a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house. Back when Wishy and I were friends here I used to talk about all the repairs I had been making on it, so there's plenty of records here from 5 or 6 years ago of what the house is like. It's barely on a flood plane, which I've said before. Since I have no intention of moving any time soon, I've used this to cut my property taxes nearly in half so it's practically free to live here compared to my friends and family out in Illinois.
I have no mortgage or rent and no debt, so working part time 2 or 3 days a week for a shitty wage fore me is like somebody else making 30-35k a year.
So... yeah. Not poor.
Care to try again Second?
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Quote:Shack offended? May your house be as good as Rosenne's. Remember the show Roseanne? The hardships facing working-class America? It's back! It's Trump!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not a shack. It's a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house.
So... yeah. Not poor.
Care to try again Second?
There is a Roseanne tweet about Trump is the next Lincoln freeing the Child Sex Slaves tied to the Deep State and the Democratic Party. This is NOT a parody of a news story:
Roseanne Barr faced heavy criticism on social media this weekend after posting a tweet apparently indicating support for an online conspiracy theory claiming President Trump is involved in combating a global trafficking ring tied to the "deep state."
In a tweet posted Friday night, the "Roseanne" star alleged that Trump was breaking up human trafficking rings and freeing "hundreds" of children in sex slavery around the world every month.
"President Trump has freed so many children held in bondage to pimps all over this world. Hundreds each month. He has broken up trafficking rings in high places everywhere. notice that. I disagree on some things, but give him benefit of doubt - 4 now," the actress wrote.
"i thought today was a good day to talk about freeing kids from sex slavery, since it is Passover. I didn't realize that so many were not aware of it. Anyway, no more opinions from me on twitter, it invites bullying. Moving on," Roseanne wrote in a tweet.
Roseanne, an outspoken supporter of the president on social media, spoke with Trump as recently as Wednesday when the president called the actress to congratulate her on the ratings success of the reboot of her show, "Roseanne." The show prominently features Roseanne's politics as a Trump supporter. “We just kind of had a private conversation but we talked about a lot of things and he’s just happy for me,” Roseanne later told ABC’s “Good Morning America" of the call.
The Trump/Roseanne story continues at
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/381123-roseanne-barr-faces-social-me
dia-backlash-over-trump-conspiracy-theory-tweet
For Trump supporters who won't click the link, the bottom line is there is no truth to the rumors that Trump freed the slaves, unlike Lincoln freeing slaves.
When Joss Whedon worked for Roseanne
www.newsweek.com/joss-whedon-265403
The show was in chaos behind the scenes because of Roseanne’s faults. The White House is in chaos behind the scenes because of Trump’s faults.
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Quote:The actor playing Archie Bunker was no fan of President Nixon, although Carroll O'Connor played a make-believe fan on the show. Roseanne Barr is a real-life fan of Trump, both on and off the show Roseanne.
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The Make America Great Again theme song ought to be sung to the tune of Archie Bunker's All In The Family:
Boy the way Glenn Miller Played
Songs that made the Hit Parade
Guys like us we had it made
Those were the days.
And you knew who you were then
Girls were girls and men were men
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again
Didn't need no Welfare states
Everybody pulled his weight
Gee our old LaSalle ran great
Those were the days
www.songfacts.com/detail.php?lyrics=2918
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Shack offended? May your house be as good as Rosenne's. Remember the show Roseanne? The hardships facing working-class America? It's back! It's Trump!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not a shack. It's a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom house.
So... yeah. Not poor.
Care to try again Second?
There is a Roseanne tweet about Trump is the next Lincoln freeing the Child Sex Slaves tied to the Deep State and the Democratic Party. This is NOT a parody of a news story:
Roseanne Barr faced heavy criticism on social media this weekend after posting a tweet apparently indicating support for an online conspiracy theory claiming President Trump is involved in combating a global trafficking ring tied to the "deep state."
In a tweet posted Friday night, the "Roseanne" star alleged that Trump was breaking up human trafficking rings and freeing "hundreds" of children in sex slavery around the world every month.
"President Trump has freed so many children held in bondage to pimps all over this world. Hundreds each month. He has broken up trafficking rings in high places everywhere. notice that. I disagree on some things, but give him benefit of doubt - 4 now," the actress wrote.
"i thought today was a good day to talk about freeing kids from sex slavery, since it is Passover. I didn't realize that so many were not aware of it. Anyway, no more opinions from me on twitter, it invites bullying. Moving on," Roseanne wrote in a tweet.
Roseanne, an outspoken supporter of the president on social media, spoke with Trump as recently as Wednesday when the president called the actress to congratulate her on the ratings success of the reboot of her show, "Roseanne." The show prominently features Roseanne's politics as a Trump supporter. “We just kind of had a private conversation but we talked about a lot of things and he’s just happy for me,” Roseanne later told ABC’s “Good Morning America" of the call.
The Trump/Roseanne story continues at
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/381123-roseanne-barr-faces-social-me
dia-backlash-over-trump-conspiracy-theory-tweet
For Trump supporters who won't click the link, the bottom line is there is no truth to the rumors that Trump freed the slaves, unlike Lincoln freeing slaves.
When Joss Whedon worked for Roseanne
www.newsweek.com/joss-whedon-265403
The show was in chaos behind the scenes because of Roseanne’s faults. The White House is in chaos behind the scenes because of Trump’s faults.
Is there a problem with Rosanne's house?
We all can't live in Ivory Towers like you do in your mind from your mom's basement.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix, why are you not planning a better future for yourself? Are you waiting for your luck to spontaneously change because this America, the land of freedom? I see that most Americans are doing the same as you: US social mobility is much lower than in other rich-countries.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is there a problem with Rosanne's house?
We all can't live in Ivory Towers like you do in your mind from your mom's basement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_Sta
tes#Comparisons_with_other_countries
www.businessinsider.com/social-mobility-is-on-the-decline-and-with-it-
american-dream-2017-7
I’ve got my own theory of why America has the lowest social mobility: too many 6ixStringJacks who think they are doing good enough. They have surrendered to a low-level fate. If they want a little better, for example a few thousand dollars more by lowering their FISA taxes on their paychecks, they think voting for a Trump will bring better. These American chumps are so easily deceived.(Sorry to tell you, 6ixStringJack, but you will have to do more strenuous things than just vote if you expect much better for yourself in next 10 years) I thank God every night in my prayers for making so many slow-thinking American chumps that I can legally cheat out of money. It's the same prayer for Trump and his American success story built upon the misfortune of those he legally cheated. One example:
www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html
"He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments. The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."
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GOP TV stations warn of the danger to democracy from watching TV not controlled by GOP
Nearly 200 television stations in the U.S. forced their news anchors to record a promo about “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.” The TV stations owner is a big fan of Trump and wanted his news people to repeat Trump’s words attacking all other stations that are not working for the Republican Party. What was the owner's reward from Trump for serving the GOP? Permission to buy 40 more TV stations.
The script and the video are available at:
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-americas-largest-local-tv-owner-
turned-its-news-anc-1824233490
Sinclair regularly runs disinformation segments favorable to President Trump: one of its staples is a recurring pre-taped segment featuring Sinclair’s chief political analyst, Russian-born former Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn. As ThinkProgress previously reported, those segments frequently include misleading talking points and misinformation from the Trump administration, packaged as actual political analysis and news coverage.
Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and adviser, said in 2016 that the Trump campaign had agreed to a deal with Sinclair where Sinclair would get more access to Trump in exchange for more Trump-centric coverage.
www.dailydot.com/layer8/sinclair-fake-news-supercut/
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The story in Wisconsin isn’t just about abuse of power by a Republican Governor. It’s about a political party that knows if it loses power now, it may never regain it.
That may sound ridiculous in a two-party system, but consider the example of California: once the heartland of Reagan conservatism, the Golden State is so hostile to Republicanism that the party is nearly extinct there. California had its own paroxysm of bigoted backlash against demographic change with Proposition 187 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_187 and Governor Pete Wilson, much as the nation at large has done with Donald Trump. It spelled the party’s doom.
Republican leaders can see the end coming, and they know they must keep power at all costs or potentially lose it for good. The evidence is everywhere, but no more obvious than in their tactics in Wisconsin.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/03/31/scott-walkers-antics-in-wisco
nsin-are-more-important-than-you-think/
Proposition 187 passed by 59% of the vote in 1994. It declared that illegal aliens shall not receive any public social services, shall not receive any health care services, shall not attend any school. In 1997 it was declared unconstitutional. In 1999 California Republicans gave up on appealing.
A 2006 study published in the American Journal of Political Science found that Republican support of Proposition 187 and two later state ballot initiatives—Proposition 209 in 1996, which ended affirmative action at governmental institutions, and Proposition 227 in 1998, which limited bilingual education in public schools — shifted both white and Latino voters in California away from identifying with the Republican Party and toward the Democratic Party. The authors of the study said that the "results raise serious questions about the long-term efficacy of racially divisive strategies for electoral gain."
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Republican strategist Alex Castellanos on Sunday warned President Trump to "get good legal help now."
Castellanos said during a panel on ABC's "This Week" that it is hard to believe that special counsel Robert Mueller "is not going to dig up something in Trump's complicated financial history to say 'Look, the president of the United States did this and it was wrong.'"
"And it's hard to believe then that when Republicans lose the House in 2018, maybe by 40 or 50 seats, that House is not going to impeach him," he said.
"And it's also hard to believe that a U.S. Senate that's going to be scared to death, though may still be in Republican hands, is not going to take a serious look when it has to deal with this president."
He directed a warning to Trump: "So get good legal help now, because the storm is coming."
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/381174-gop-strategist-warns-trump-to
-get-good-legal-help-now-because-the-storm-is
I've Got A Great, Great, Lawyer
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Silly to giv advise az if Trump iznt perfectly aware uv how much trouble he iz in. If therez anybody hoo knowz more about the crimez he can be charjed with than Mueller, its Trump.
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Originally posted by second:
GOP TV stations warn of the danger to democracy from watching TV not controlled by GOP
Nearly 200 television stations in the U.S. forced their news anchors to record a promo about “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.” The TV stations owner is a big fan of Trump and wanted his news people to repeat Trump’s words attacking all other stations that are not working for the Republican Party. What was the owner's reward from Trump for serving the GOP? Permission to buy 40 more TV stations.
The script and the video are available at:
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-americas-largest-local-tv-owner-
turned-its-news-anc-1824233490
Sinclair regularly runs disinformation segments favorable to President Trump: one of its staples is a recurring pre-taped segment featuring Sinclair’s chief political analyst, Russian-born former Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn. As ThinkProgress previously reported, those segments frequently include misleading talking points and misinformation from the Trump administration, packaged as actual political analysis and news coverage.
Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and adviser, said in 2016 that the Trump campaign had agreed to a deal with Sinclair where Sinclair would get more access to Trump in exchange for more Trump-centric coverage.
www.dailydot.com/layer8/sinclair-fake-news-supercut/]
Wow, state TV is trying to rear it's ugly head here. We need to win big in 2018. We need to win big and smack down hard and regulate social media outlets. We need to take back our airwaves. News outlets like fox need to be held accountable when they spew propaganda. We need to challenge them in court.
It's one thing to have a different perspective or make a mistake when reporting about something, but to knowingly lie is illegal when you represent yourself as a news provider.
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-contradicts-himself-with-
us-border-claims-1200233027543
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Quote:Trump is unaware. Do you really think Trump is competent? He might actually believe what he said: Trump has publicly and privately said he should sit down with the special counsel. He has long expressed a belief he should be able to deliver his argument personally to Mueller, which is that his campaign did not collude with Moscow's election-meddling efforts in 2016. Trump has to be demented if he thinks saying "Believe Me" to Mueller will carry any weight with a prosecutor.
Originally posted by JO753:
Silly to giv advise az if Trump iznt perfectly aware uv how much trouble he iz in. If therez anybody hoo knowz more about the crimez he can be charjed with than Mueller, its Trump.
I just checked on Trump to see how well his brain is working on Monday morning. Holy Crap! Trump is idiot:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • 1m
So sad that the Department of "Justice" and the FBI are slow walking, or even not giving, the unredacted documents requested by Congress. An embarrassment to our country!
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • 25m
Only fools, or worse, are saying that our money losing Post Office makes money with Amazon. THEY LOSE A FORTUNE, and this will be changed. Also, our fully tax paying retailers are closing stores all over the country...not a level playing field!
Trump's comment "THEY LOSE A FORTUNE" shows that he knows nothing about the package delivery industry. If Trump's understanding is so screwed up about the Post Office there is no reason to think Trump really understands anything, including Robert Mueller.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, why are you not planning a better future for yourself? Are you waiting for your luck to spontaneously change because this America, the land of freedom?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is there a problem with Rosanne's house?
We all can't live in Ivory Towers like you do in your mind from your mom's basement.
I'm good. I'm not going to post again what I have been and what I am currently doing to improve my situation.
I will once again say that I'm the only one in here that seems to be doing that though, while the rest of you don't seem to have grown at all.
To be fair, I was quickly on my way to hitting rock bottom when we met. I had nowhere to go but up or death. And yes, I would have been dead by now if I hadn't started changing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Trump is unaware. Do you really think Trump is competent? He might actually believe what he said: Trump has publicly and privately said he should sit down with the special counsel.
Megalomania and idiosy arent proof that he duznt know he conspired with Putin to steal the election. Every new name that pops up in the newz about Muellerz investigation wuz alredy known to Trump.
A month ago I coud believ he mite think he can con hiz way thru an interview with Mueller, but not now. "He knowz about that guy? That meanz he must know...."
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Quote:6ix, if you are living in Indiana, a failing state, this is for you. Keep in mind there are 49 other states you could move to in order to avoid the failure of your local environment:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, why are you not planning a better future for yourself? Are you waiting for your luck to spontaneously change because this America, the land of freedom?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is there a problem with Rosanne's house?
We all can't live in Ivory Towers like you do in your mind from your mom's basement.
I'm good. I'm not going to post again what I have been and what I am currently doing to improve my situation.
I will once again say that I'm the only one in here that seems to be doing that though, while the rest of you don't seem to have grown at all.
To be fair, I was quickly on my way to hitting rock bottom when we met. I had nowhere to go but up or death. And yes, I would have been dead by now if I hadn't started changing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
What’s the matter with Trumpland?
Regional disparities aren’t a new phenomenon in America. Indeed, before World War II the world’s richest, most productive nation was also a nation with millions of dirt-poor farmers, many of whom didn’t even have electricity or indoor plumbing. But until the 1970s those disparities were rapidly narrowing.
Take, for example, the case of Mississippi, America’s poorest state. In the 1930s, per-capita income in Mississippi was only 30 percent as high as per-capita income in Massachusetts. By the late 1970s, however, that figure was almost 70 percent — and most people probably expected this process of convergence to continue.
But the process went into reverse instead: These days, Mississippi is back down to only about 55 percent of Massachusetts income.
Mississippi isn’t an isolated case. As a new paper by Austin, Glaeser and Summers documents, regional convergence in per-capita incomes has stopped dead. And the relative economic decline of lagging regions has been accompanied by growing social problems: a rising share of prime-aged men not working, rising mortality, high levels of opioid consumption.
www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/saving-the-heartland-place-based-polic
ies-in-21st-century-america/
An aside: One implication of these developments is that William Julius Wilson was right. Wilson famously argued that the social ills of the nonwhite inner-city poor had their origin not in some mysterious flaws of African-American culture but in economic factors — specifically, the disappearance of good blue-collar jobs. Sure enough, when rural whites faced a similar loss of economic opportunity, they experienced a similar social unraveling.
www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/192111/when-work-disappears-by-willia
m-julius-wilson/9780679724179/
So what is the matter with Trumpland?
For the most part I’m in agreement with Berkeley’s Enrico Moretti, whose 2012 book, “The New Geography of Jobs,” is must reading for anyone trying to understand the state of America. Moretti argues that structural changes in the economy have favored industries that employ highly educated workers — and that these industries do best in locations where there are already a lot of these workers. As a result, these regions are experiencing a virtuous circle of growth: Their knowledge-intensive industries prosper, drawing in even more educated workers, which reinforces their advantage.
www.hmhbooks.com/newgeographyofjobs/
And at the same time, regions that started with a poorly educated work force are in a downward spiral, both because they’re stuck with the wrong industries and because they’re experiencing what amounts to a brain drain.
While these structural factors are surely the main story, however, I think we have to acknowledge the role of self-destructive politics.
That new Austin et al. paper makes the case for a national policy of aiding lagging regions. But we already
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Trump speaks inappropriately to Easter Egg Hunting Children:
Quote:
This is a special year. Our country is doing great. You look at the economy, you look at what’s happening. Nothing’s ever easy, but we have never had an economy like we have right now, and we’re going to make it bigger and better and stronger. Our military is now at a level, will soon be at a level that it’s never been before. It’s, you see what’s happening, and you see what’s happening with funding, the funding of our military, which is so important. And so many military people are with us today, so, just think of 700 billion dollars, because that’s all going into our military this year.
Trump is petrified of losing support over his failure to fulfill various pledges.
https://goo.gl/voMsW2
You can tell what President Trump is afraid of by what he chooses to lie about. That means he must be petrified of losing support over his failure to build a single mile of the “big, beautiful” border wall he promised.
Trump is scared of a lot of things — special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation, honest reporting by the news media, adult-film actress Stormy Daniels and, reportedly, sharks. But nothing seems to make him quake and tremble more than the fear that his core base will realize all his tough-guy huffing and puffing about Latino immigration was a bunch of hot air.
What I didn’t realize during the campaign was that Trump’s base realized he could never fulfill his absurd pledge to deport all of the estimated 11 million people who are here without papers. But his supporters did expect him to do something to stem what they see as an invasion — something concrete and unambiguous. Like the promised wall.
But a man with his name emblazoned on skyscrapers and golf courses around the globe, a man who fancies himself a master builder, has been unable to even begin construction of a new border wall. And some of the most vocal anti-immigration commentators — with influence among Trump’s base — have been getting restless.
I don’t know how to break this to you, folks, but Trump’s wall promise was no more serious than anything else that comes out of his mouth. His antipathy toward Latinos and non-whites is genuine, I trust, but his ability to follow through is pure counterfeit. With all of his heart, he hopes you’re too stupid to notice.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, if you are living in Indiana, a failing state, this is for you. Keep in mind there are 49 other states you could move to in order to avoid the failure of your local environment:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, why are you not planning a better future for yourself? Are you waiting for your luck to spontaneously change because this America, the land of freedom?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Is there a problem with Rosanne's house?
We all can't live in Ivory Towers like you do in your mind from your mom's basement.
I'm good. I'm not going to post again what I have been and what I am currently doing to improve my situation.
I will once again say that I'm the only one in here that seems to be doing that though, while the rest of you don't seem to have grown at all.
To be fair, I was quickly on my way to hitting rock bottom when we met. I had nowhere to go but up or death. And yes, I would have been dead by now if I hadn't started changing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.chron.com/news/article/Express-lane-to-death-Texas-seeks-approval-
12799384.php
LOL. A failing state? That's not even worth a reply.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/is-trump-s-corruption-the-key-to-sto
pping-him-1200826947833
New York Magazine's Jonathan Chait argues that it's not Russia or Stormy Daniels that can stop the president, but rather the disconnect between his campaign promises and his presidential corruption.
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Quote:6ix, you've never given me the impression that you are the kind of guy making decisions based on hard facts. Trump voters are more about gooey feelings than hard facts. But, having written that, Indiana is rated 35th in Median Household Income by State, beating Puerto Rico, so you don't live in the worst shit-hole of all. Congratulations for your state's relative "success" in the bottom half of states! Indiana is not a complete failure! You should brag about it, although if you are making less than the median you are dragging your state down.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL. A failing state? That's not even worth a reply.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
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Quote:Why Isn’t Donald Trump Polling at 0%? It is around 40%.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/is-trump-s-corruption-the-key-to-sto
pping-him-1200826947833
New York Magazine's Jonathan Chait argues that it's not Russia or Stormy Daniels that can stop the president, but rather the disconnect between his campaign promises and his presidential corruption.
Think how Trump is like Nixon. Even historically insane Nixonian levels of corruption and abuse of power aren’t likely to move the Republican base. The example given:
Quote:www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/04/why-isnt-donald-trump-polling-a
My father, a staunch conservative Republican, continued his support for Richard Nixon through all of the revelations about his lies, corruption and obstruction of justice. In the end, dad finally abandoned him when the Oval Office tapes were published in book form because he couldn’t abide the frequency with which the president swore.
t-0/
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A key part of successful personal finance — and successful citizenship — is simply filtering out the baloney. Not being the moron. (Which I can say with some authority, having been the moron more than once myself.)
Who you gonna believe?
The annuity salesman heavily incentivized to sell what’s best for him? Or the advice from a book you can get from the library for free?
The Tobacco Institute? Or the Surgeon General?
The Washington Post? Or the National Enquirer?
Donald Trump? Or the FBI?
Donald Trump? Or the two dozen women he claims are lying?
Donald Trump? Or — on a different day — Donald Trump?
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What Trump’s infrastructure plan was:
The top White House aide focused on infrastructure is leaving in the midst of what’s allegedly a White House push for its infrastructure plan. That is a sign that there is, in fact, no real push for an infrastructure plan.
The really big question about Trump and infrastructure, ever since he won the election, had been whether he actually wanted to get something done on this or if it was just a campaign line. The February proposal answered that question pretty definitively — by mashing up Trump’s vague rhetoric with his staff’s conventional hard-right politics, they landed on a formula with no bipartisan appeal and no actual path forward. And now the person who crafted the plan is heading out the door having accomplished nothing.
Candidate Trump promised a $1 trillion infrastructure plan, and the Trump White House swiftly began talking about a $1.5 trillion plan. But the actual plan rolled out in February is what we would normally describe as a $200 billion federal infrastructure plan, deconstructed into four parts:
More about this Trump plan that will never pass Congress at
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/4/17199034/dj-gribbin-infrastru
cture
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Nothing Trump has said or done since taking office has put to rest any of the doubts that pushed people away from him had — he still seems impulsive, disrespectful, and extremely casual about the line between his personal finances and the public’s business. But at least some people were convinced to vote for him because he seemed “different” from earlier Republicans on important policy grounds. As president, he’s shown no sign of that “different” heterodox campaign persona, driving Trump-curious Democrats back to the fold.
Republicans appear to have no answer to this. They are neither distancing themselves from Trump and his erratic persona nor embracing the occasionally moderate economic policy ideas he ran on two years ago. And no number of electoral losses seems able to deter them from this course.
- from The Wisconsin Supreme Court election shows the blueprint for a Democratic wave
www.vox.com/2018/4/5/17201374/wisconsin-supreme-court
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No, the Democratic Party isn’t ‘divided’ or in ‘disarray’
We’ve already seen a fair amount of this type of coverage around the intra-party battles that have taken shape in some primaries. But this pattern is going to be less consequential than it appears. For one thing, as remarkable as the Sanders 2016 phenomenon was, if Sanders 2020 happens it will be a far diminished force. That’s because in 2016 he became the one real alternative to the boring, establishment, seemingly inevitable nominee, which made him fascinating and cool, especially to young people. In 2020 you’ll have a dozen Democrats running, many of whom will be compelling in their own ways. Most of the people who supported Bernie last time around will peel off to other candidates.
Those who remain with him will be in no small part a rump faction of anti-Democrat Democrats, who share Sanders’ conviction that the party is irredeemably corrupt, a collection of neoliberal corporate sellouts. This is the essence of Sanders’ brand, always has been and always will be. No matter how much the party moves left — and it has moved a great deal in the last few years — there will never be a point where Sanders says, “I’m really pleased with where the Democratic Party is right now.” Because once he said that, there would cease to be any need for Bernie Sanders to exist.
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/04/05/no-the-democratic
-party-isnt-divided-or-in-disarray/?utm_term=.297376b86ea4
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The departure of Trump’s second national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, brought a different sort of indictment. In his final public remarks, he was careful to preserve his ties to the president. But the topic he chose was Russia — particularly Russian cyberoperations against the United States and other NATO countries. And his judgment was harsh: “We have failed to impose sufficient costs” for such actions. The result? “The Kremlin’s confidence is growing as its agents conduct their sustained campaign to undermine our confidence in ourselves and in one another.”
For a national security adviser to make this statement in an administration where the president has been equivocal, even exculpatory, in his language about Russia is the most serious critique of all. In McMaster’s view, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin is engaging in a type of hybrid warfare that is “deliberately designed to achieve objectives while falling below the target state’s threshold for military response.” This has been enabled by some who “glamorize and apologize” for Russia’s actions, and by nations that “have looked the other way.”
In his farewell statement, McMaster — one of our country’s deepest thinkers on the nature of warfare — described a sustained attack to which the United States has not responded with sufficient seriousness. This could be interpreted only as an implicit criticism of a president who has brought no urgency to the task and has a history of apologizing for Russian actions. (“Well, you think our country is so innocent?”)
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Quote:Shirley the Statewide Hazardous Weather storm, where the populace was urged to stay off the roads, had no possible effect on this Election.
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Nothing Trump has said or done since taking office has put to rest any of the doubts that pushed people away from him had — he still seems impulsive, disrespectful, and extremely casual about the line between his personal finances and the public’s business. But at least some people were convinced to vote for him because he seemed “different” from earlier Republicans on important policy grounds. As president, he’s shown no sign of that “different” heterodox campaign persona, driving Trump-curious Democrats back to the fold.
Republicans appear to have no answer to this. They are neither distancing themselves from Trump and his erratic persona nor embracing the occasionally moderate economic policy ideas he ran on two years ago. And no number of electoral losses seems able to deter them from this course.
- from The Wisconsin Supreme Court election shows the blueprint for a Democratic wave
www.vox.com/2018/4/5/17201374/wisconsin-supreme-court
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Quote:Are Republican voters afraid of snowflakes, more so than Democrats? I'm old now and get my ballot by mail, so I never miss an election, rain, snow or shine. But when I was younger, I voted by mail, too. I was always out of town grasping for more money, and even when I was not, I claimed in writing I was to the Chief Elections Officer of Harris County. Hell, I might be out of town. Never knew for sure. Thus I could always vote by mail. And the Postal Service's motto: "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds." That motto does not leave Republicans any room for saying they lost because of bad weather on election day. Either vote early or vote by mail, but don't use weather as an excuse for losing the election.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Shirley [Surely] the Statewide Hazardous Weather storm, where the populace was urged to stay off the roads, had no possible effect on this Election.
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A Valediction to Power
LBJ's 1968: Power, Politics, and the Presidency in America's Year of Upheaval
By Kyle Longley
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https://literaryreview.co.uk/a-valediction-to-power
Everyone has a favourite president, but I’m suspicious of anyone who says it’s Lyndon Baines Johnson. Yes, he was the politician’s politician – one of the greatest legislators in US history – but he was also a monster. Kyle Longley recounts an episode when journalists were badgering Johnson to explain America’s war in Vietnam. LBJ unzipped his fly, pulled out his sizable member and said, ‘This is why!’ They say the personal is political, but that’s taking things too far.
Longley’s new book examines a year in Johnson’s life – his final one as president – in microscopic detail. On 30 January, the Viet Cong launched the Tet Offensive. For the first time, Americans really contemplated defeat in Vietnam. Johnson’s plans fell apart. [Or his dick fell off.]
Realizing that running for re-election in 1968 would likely kill him, and that he might not win anyway, Johnson went on television to announce, ‘I shall not seek and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another year as your president.’ The speech transformed Johnson’s image: the public was elated by this rare act of political self-sacrifice. Now that he was liberated from campaigning, maybe Johnson would actually bring peace to Vietnam.
On the night of 28 August, the police assaulted anti-war protesters and made Chicago look like Prague, which had been invaded by Soviet troops the previous week. The president spent the rest of the year chasing a peace that never came.
There are plenty of reasons why 1968 became Johnson’s annus horribilis. South and North Vietnam were resistant to negotiating with each other; Nixon’s crew secretly urged the South Vietnamese to wait until he was in office in order to get a better deal. Who could have predicted the murders of King and Kennedy? The rise of popular conservatism, moreover, meant that the public was more interested in fighting crime than eliminating poverty.
But, to repeat, Johnson was a monster – one of those interesting, three-dimensional monsters that occasionally does good, for sure, but very definitely the author of his own misfortunes.
He humiliated Humphrey, for example, a loyal vice president who backed the Vietnam War despite his own misgivings. To stand any chance of winning the general election, Humphrey needed to reconcile the doves and hawks of the Democratic Party, and he favored an election platform that would appeal to both. Johnson nixed it. He was too obsessed with defending his war to compromise. And it was his war. As Longley writes, the president often talked about Vietnam as if it were something he’d inherited or had thrust upon him and as if all he’d done from day one was try to end it. Hogwash. When Johnson became president, the USA’s involvement in Vietnam was limited. He escalated it. He was in effect an imperial president, yet he adopted the persona of a powerless civil servant. Yes, his generals assured him of progress and pushed for more men, but there were other voices who told him it wasn’t working, men to whom he should have listened, and the Tet Offensive splashed the writing right across the wall.
Without Vietnam, LBJ’s reputation might well be titanic: he secured the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act, launched a war on poverty and signed more than three hundred conservation measures into law. But Longley’s perceptive and unflinching study concludes that Vietnam is inseparable from Johnson. The fact is that he committed America to a gruesome war in defense of its own metaphorical manhood and determined the manner in which it was fought, which was neither total war nor a surgical intervention.
There is a story that tells of a young man trying to guide Johnson to the presidential chopper. ‘There’s your helicopter, sir,’ he said. The president replied, ‘They’re all my helicopters, son.’ It was an answer typic
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The right-wing rabble-rouser Ann Coulter recently declared at a talk at Columbia University that the President was a "shallow, lazy ignoramus" and that she's now a former Trumper. "If he doesn't have us anymore, that's what he should be worried about," Coulter later told The New York Times. "He's not giving us what he promised at every campaign stop."
Coulter's defection is significant because she was an early Trump supporter and has long been a leading voice on the fringe where the President's most ardent followers reside. But now she's fed up with his incompetence and feels betrayed -- principally on his failure to build the wall.
The most noteworthy aspect of Coulter's comments has been the sense of exasperation behind it. Other True Trumpers have expressed the same feeling. Tucker Carlson of Fox News, to name one, said the President's waffling on immigration issues left him wondering "what was the point of running for president?"
Carlson is a rabid partisan, but he's not a blind one. What he and Coulter both seem to recognize is that the man who ran for president on the basis of slogans really had no firm idea about how he was going to advance what little agenda he claimed.
Trump sold himself mainly on his status as an outsider who was going to "drain the swamp" and an anti-immigrant crusader who was going to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and build a wall the length of the southern border. What Coulter, Carlson, and no doubt others are experiencing are the deficiencies Trump long exhibited as a businessman. After his renovation of a hotel at Grand Central Terminal and success with Trump Tower, in the late 1970s, Trump failed at operating a string of complex businesses -- an airline, various casinos, the Plaza Hotel in New York -- because he just wasn't a very good executive.
Because he had never developed an actual set of detailed policy ideas or, for that matter, a political philosophy, the promoter who became President attempted to bluff his way along. Even if he intended to make good on promises, his poor choices of confederates has translated over and over into scandal and ethics investigations that distract from and derail his agenda.
Trump is treating many of his friends the way he treated the investors who bought the securities that collapsed when he went bankrupt. It's all good until the winds change and an ally has served his or her purpose.
It's only natural that Trump, an opportunist who sees everything in transactional terms, makes for an untrustworthy ally. He once told me that with billions of people on Earth, he's not worried about alienating anyone. With a friend like him, Trumpers are bound to be disappointed.
www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/opinions/how-trump-lost-ann-coulter-dantonio/in
dex.html
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Are Republican voters afraid of snowflakes, more so than Democrats?
Did you just ask if Republicans are more afraid of Democrats than Democrats are afraid of themselves?
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Two Increasingly Polarized Cultures
There is evidence from the social sciences that as a society becomes wealthier, its values tend to drift toward self-expression and secular rationalism, away from traditionalism and survival values.
The US has long been something of an exception among developed democracies — it has been drifting (mildly) in the direction of traditionalism. The explanation for this, Wilkinson hypothesizes, is that the small aggregate movement is hiding an extreme divergence underneath:
Quote:On this theory, globalization has effectively split the US into two countries: an economically booming urban country (albeit with plenty of poor people inside it) and a stagnant or declining rural and exurban one. The fate of midsize towns and cities seems to depend on which of those two currents they catch.
The United States may be dividing into two increasingly polarized cultures: an increasingly secular-rational and self-expression oriented “post-materialist” culture concentrated in big cities and the academic archipelago, and a largely rural and exurban culture that has been tilting in the opposite direction, toward zero-sum survival values, while trying to hold the line on traditional values.
Like economic activity, Democrats are increasingly concentrated in cities. In a paper last year, Mark Muro and Sifan Liu at the Brookings Institution found that the fewer than 500 US counties that went for Hillary Clinton in 2016 represent “a massive 64 percent of America’s economic activity as measured by total output in 2015.” The other 36 percent of the nation’s economic output is Donald Trump country spread out in 2,600 counties.
These two Americas have experienced diverging fortunes and have consequently been diverging in values, ideology, and even personality. Increasingly, cosmopolitan risk takers flock to cities while traditionalists remain in rural and exurban areas. The economic sorting has been both a driver and a consequence of the extraordinary polarization of US political life.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/22/14762030/donald-trump-tribal
-epistemology
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The Balanced-Budget Amendment Is Deeply Stupid and dumb-messaging-vote season in Congress is even dumber than usual.
When Congress returns from its two-week recess on Monday, it won’t have a whole lot to do. Most of the meaningful legislation that was going to get done before the midterms was buried in the 2,232-page omnibus that passed a couple of weeks ago. There will still be some work over the summer — a farm bill, for example, that’s already a predictably hot mess over proposed cuts to food stamps. But otherwise, the 115th Congress is just about ready to spend the remaining time it’s not on recess doing the important work of voting on messaging bills and pretending they matter in any way.
And what better way to kick off messaging season than voting on a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution? The House has teed up a vote next week on such an amendment. All in all, a great way to collapse an economy through the unimpeachable logic of, “If families have to tighten their belts when things are tough, so too should the federal government.”
The Treasury Department will need to borrow about 1 trillion bucks each of the next few fiscal years—in good economic times. Deficits during the next recession are going to be hilarious, and the austerity required to bring them into balance during recession would do the trick of landing the country in a depression. Even though the amendment wouldn’t go into effect until five years after its ratification, on the plus side, that five-year waiting period would give us plenty of time to reserve our spots in a nationwide bread line.
This thing isn’t getting two-thirds support in the House, it’s not doing anything in the Senate, and three-quarters of states, which happen to enjoy the federal government’s unlimited printing press given the restraints of their own balanced-budget requirements, would never ratify it. The goal of the vote this week is to allow Republicans running for office, when confronted by constituents about their remarkable ability to create boom-time trillion-dollar deficits, to say, “I voted for a balanced-budget amendment.” Only seven more months until Election Day.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/the-balanced-budget-amendm
ent-is-deeply-stupid.html
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Two Increasingly Polarized Cultures
There is evidence from the social sciences that as a society becomes wealthier, its values tend to drift toward self-expression and secular rationalism, away from traditionalism and survival values.
The US has long been something of an exception among developed democracies — it has been drifting (mildly) in the direction of traditionalism. The explanation for this, Wilkinson hypothesizes, is that the small aggregate movement is hiding an extreme divergence underneath:Quote:On this theory, globalization has effectively split the US into two countries: an economically booming urban country (albeit with plenty of poor people inside it) and a stagnant or declining rural and exurban one. The fate of midsize towns and cities seems to depend on which of those two currents they catch.
The United States may be dividing into two increasingly polarized cultures: an increasingly secular-rational and self-expression oriented “post-materialist” culture concentrated in big cities and the academic archipelago, and a largely rural and exurban culture that has been tilting in the opposite direction, toward zero-sum survival values, while trying to hold the line on traditional values.
Like economic activity, Democrats are increasingly concentrated in cities. In a paper last year, Mark Muro and Sifan Liu at the Brookings Institution found that the fewer than 500 US counties that went for Hillary Clinton in 2016 represent “a massive 64 percent of America’s economic activity as measured by total output in 2015.” The other 36 percent of the nation’s economic output is Donald Trump country spread out in 2,600 counties.
These two Americas have experienced diverging fortunes and have consequently been diverging in values, ideology, and even personality. Increasingly, cosmopolitan risk takers flock to cities while traditionalists remain in rural and exurban areas. The economic sorting has been both a driver and a consequence of the extraordinary polarization of US political life.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/22/14762030/donald-trump-tribal
-epistemology
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You realize that article just said that non-Democrats are the ones that are keeping the country intact, right?
If we were any other successful country in history, we would have imploded in under 200 years by excessively indulging in ultra-liberal behaviors.
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Quote:6ixStringJack, the USA imploded several times. The most famous occasion was the Civil War, where ultra-liberals were opposed to the perfectly biblical, time-tested for thousands of years, economically important institution of slavery. The ultra-liberals did put the country back together again over the extremely violent objections of conservative Southern slave owners. In Texas, Republicans are still whining and complaining about that war and how unfairly they were treated by ultra-liberals: where I live in Baytown there is a college and high school named after Robert E Lee, beloved and famous conservative fighter against all things ultra-liberal.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You realize that article just said that non-Democrats are the ones that are keeping the country intact, right?
If we were any other successful country in history, we would have imploded in under 200 years by excessively indulging in ultra-liberal behaviors.
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Bad example. The Civil War wasn't about slavery, and the South had a point.
Do you have another one?
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Quote:The Phantom of the make-believe Ultra-Liberal Republicans rises yet again, in the delusions of the Freedom-Hating Democraps.
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ixStringJack, the USA imploded several times. The most famous occasion was the Civil War, where ultra-liberals were opposed to the perfectly biblical, time-tested for thousands of years, economically important institution of slavery.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You realize that article just said that non-Democrats are the ones that are keeping the country intact, right?
If we were any other successful country in history, we would have imploded in under 200 years by excessively indulging in ultra-liberal behaviors.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:JewelStaiteFan, you lost your tiny mind. Now you've gone so far as to deny the Civil War was about slavery and Robert E Lee fighting to protect the property of slave owners. This movie review you could complain about, since it compares Trump's skills to Stalin's. How could the reviewer possibly know when the book on how the Trump White House is run hasn't been written yet? Except the book has: Fire and Fury, Inside the Trump White House.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:The Phantom of the make-believe Ultra-Liberal Republicans rises yet again, in the delusions of the Freedom-Hating Democraps.
6ixStringJack, the USA imploded several times. The most famous occasion was the Civil War, where ultra-liberals were opposed to the perfectly biblical, time-tested for thousands of years, economically important institution of slavery.
Trump mentioned in "The Death of Stalin" review:
Anyone following the news coming out of the White House in 2018 couldn't help but see the tiny-minded bully Donald Trump and his leaking, backbiting, constantly-fired-or-resigning staff reflected in this film, even though the "The Death of Stalin" was based on a graphic novel by Fabien Nurya and conceived long before the 2016 presidential election. Nearly every civilization has suffered through some version of this madness. Iannucci's just here to skewer it, not in a lofty or smug way, but an earthy and immediate one, as if to remind us that yes, indeed, it can happen here, wherever "here" is. The end product joins an elite series of similarly blackhearted comedies about the reptilian impulses that drive men in power: "Dr. Strangelove," "Apocalypse Now,” “Catch-22," "M*A*S*H" and (lower mammal division) "Animal Farm."
www.rogerebert.com/mzs/30-minutes-on-the-death-of-stalin
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The end product joins an elite series of similarly blackhearted comedies about the reptilian impulses that drive men in power: "Dr. Strangelove," "Apocalypse Now,” “Catch-22," "M*A*S*H" and (lower mammal division) "Animal Farm."
You view Animal Farm as a comedy?
Seriously. WTF is wrong with you?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Funny that you should mention Animal Farm, an allegorical novella by George Orwell. Once the pigs were in charge of the farm, they started over-eating, well, like pigs. The GOP equivalent is over-paying: add Mick Mulvaney to the list of Big Spenders with Other People’s Money. He created a bunch of new positions that never were needed before and then paid his people $259,500 a year. That is more than the salaries of members of Congress, cabinet secretaries, and nearly all federal judges apart from those who sit on the Supreme Court. Republicans are Pigs.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The end product joins an elite series of similarly blackhearted comedies about the reptilian impulses that drive men in power: "Dr. Strangelove," "Apocalypse Now,” “Catch-22," "M*A*S*H" and (lower mammal division) "Animal Farm."
You view Animal Farm as a comedy?
Seriously. WTF is wrong with you?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/04/add-mick-mulvaney-to-the-list-o
f-big-spenders-with-other-peoples-money/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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