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Quote:You are talking crazy, 6ix. Brett Kavanaugh argued that a sitting President should be above the Law. That is exactly what Trump wants.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is just another BS scare tactic by the MSM. Nothing to see here.
“I believe it vital that the President be able to focus on his never-ending tasks with as few distractions as possible. The country wants the President to be ‘one of us’ who bears the same responsibilities of citizenship that all share. But I believe that the President should be excused from some of the burdens of ordinary citizenship while serving in office,” argued Kavanaugh in the law-review article. He then asserted that “the indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
www.thenation.com/article/brett-kavanaugh-argued-sitting-president-law/
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7 legal experts on how Kavanaugh views executive power — and what it could mean for Mueller
“It does seem as though when he was on the DC Circuit he had an affection for presidential power. Let’s put it that way.”
What happens if a sitting president happens to be the subject of a criminal investigation? It’s an issue involving executive power that could rise all the way to the Supreme Court, and one that Brett Kavanaugh, President Donald Trump’s justice pick, could weigh in on if he’s confirmed.
And on that issue (and others), Kavanaugh, a judge on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, has a paper trail — opinions and other writings that offer insights into how he might make decisions on the highest court. The Supreme Court may hear some element of the Russia investigation — the subpoena of a sitting president, or (less likely) the indictment of one. And Kavanaugh could be one of the justices to decide on such matters. And he has made it all too clear how he will decide, even before there is a case to be decided.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/11/17551648/kavanaugh-mueller-t
rump-executive-power-legal
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are talking crazy, 6ix. Brett Kavanaugh argued that a sitting President should be above the Law. That is exactly what Trump wants.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is just another BS scare tactic by the MSM. Nothing to see here.
“I believe it vital that the President be able to focus on his never-ending tasks with as few distractions as possible. The country wants the President to be ‘one of us’ who bears the same responsibilities of citizenship that all share. But I believe that the President should be excused from some of the burdens of ordinary citizenship while serving in office,” argued Kavanaugh in the law-review article. He then asserted that “the indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
www.thenation.com/article/brett-kavanaugh-argued-sitting-president-law/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
That's not the argument. Stop quoting one sentence when you reply to somebody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thats exactly wut woud happen. He sed az much. THATS THE FREEKIN PLAN!
The potential for sivil war iz bekuming more realiztic every week. Putin will be happy with that, but I think he woud prefer for Trump to seksessfully turn the US into a dictatorship.
Seemz to be happening alot theze dayz, but not being much on history, maybe its just the normal rate.
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Quote:An argument, where we come to some agreed upon truth, is only possible between people who are trying to understand. You are not to be trusted, 6ix, to do that work. But it's not my burden to explain something in great detail, with examples designed specially for you, that will get through your thick skull and save your life. It is your life, not mine, so ruin it however you please. Remember: you can't be all that smart, 6ix, and also fuck up your life like you did and are doing. I don't expect you to understand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not the argument. Stop quoting one sentence when you reply to somebody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The ethical and moral standards inside the White House have dropped so low that even on the way out the door, conservatives are painting the comically corrupt former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt as a martyred hero victimized by the hysterical liberal media.
“I am just so disappointed in the president’s failure to support Scott against the angry attacks from the loony left,” Republican donor Doug Deason told Politico. “Nothing he did amounted to anything big. He was THE most effective Cabinet member by far.“
It’s impossible to build an administration that’s entirely scandal-free. But you can vet people properly, you can drum-out malefactors who slip through the cracks, and you can build an institutional culture in which team members are rewarded for exposing impropriety rather than rewarded for covering it up.
But inside the Donald Trump White House, grifters, abusers, racists, and harassers still get hired; they lurk around the Oval Office after they’ve been found out; and even in the rare instance where they’re forced out, it’s only grudgingly.
Bill Shine, for example, came on board last week to run White House communications. He got fired from his last job as president of Fox News for his role in orchestrating a massive, multi-year cover-up of widespread sexual harassment and sexual assault of employees. The White House didn’t note this in the press release.
His wife, Darla, meanwhile, has a habit of tweeting inaccurate anti-vaccination memes and a ton of racist stuff, but leading conservative commentators take the view that, since she is nice to her friends, quoting her accurately amounts to a liberal smear campaign.
Then there’s White House staff secretary Rob Porter, who was eventually forced out once it came to light that he’d beaten up a couple of his wives but the White House could never quite get its story straight on exactly what happened, seemingly because Chief of Staff John Kelly had known the facts and tried to cover them up. About a month later, Trump decided he missed Porter and wanted him back, which didn’t happen, but Kelly obviously wasn’t punished for the coverup.
Jim Jordan, a leading House conservative, stands accused by a half-dozen former Ohio State University wrestlers of turning a blind eye to routine sexual abuse of young athletes. And both President Trump and his colleagues are rallying behind Jordan with the preposterous theory that it’s all a conspiracy cooked up by the “deep state”.
What is really striking thing about the current state of Republican Party politics is not the handful of crooks and spouse abusers who’ve been forced out of their jobs, but the petulant and foot-dragging manner in which they’ve been cashiered, the continued tolerance for so many apparent malefactors, and the evident lack of desire to even attempt anything resembling a proper house-cleaning.
Trump’s administration is full of kooks and crooks because it’s led by Donald Trump. Nothing can realistically be done about it because there’s no way to hold your team to any kind of normal standard of conduct when Donald Trump is captain of the ship.
Corruption is not exactly new to American politics. But never before in American history has the president of the United States been a person whose entire career has been devoted to enriching himself. Donald Trump is first and
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Quote:The only presidential democracy with a long history of constitutional continuity is the United States. The constitutions of Finland and France are hybrids rather than true presidential systems, and in the case of the French Fifth Republic, the jury is still out. Aside from the United States, only Chile has managed a century and a half of relatively undisturbed constitutional continuity under presidential government, but Chilean democracy broke down in the 1970s.
Originally posted by JO753:
Thats exactly wut woud happen. He sed az much. THATS THE FREEKIN PLAN!
The potential for sivil war iz bekuming more realiztic every week. Putin will be happy with that, but I think he woud prefer for Trump to seksessfully turn the US into a dictatorship.
Seemz to be happening alot theze dayz, but not being much on history, maybe its just the normal rate.
The superior historical performance of parliamentary democracies is no accident. A careful comparison of parliamentarism as such with presidenlialism as such leads to the conclusion that, on balance, the former is more conducive to stable democracy than the latter. This conclusion applies especially to nations with deep political cleavages and numerous political parties; for such countries, parliamentarism generally offers a better hope of preserving democracy.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/levitsky/files/1.1linz.pdf
www.hank-edmondson.com/amgovchapt4/the-presidential-v-the.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:An argument, where we come to some agreed upon truth, is only possible between people who are trying to understand. You are not to be trusted, 6ix, to do that work. But it's not my burden to explain something in great detail, with examples designed specially for you, that will get through your thick skull and save your life. It is your life, not mine, so ruin it however you please. Remember: you can't be all that smart, 6ix, and also fuck up your life like you did and are doing. I don't expect you to understand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not the argument. Stop quoting one sentence when you reply to somebody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The ethical and moral standards inside the White House have dropped so low that even on the way out the door, conservatives are painting the comically corrupt former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt as a martyred hero victimized by the hysterical liberal media.
“I am just so disappointed in the president’s failure to support Scott against the angry attacks from the loony left,” Republican donor Doug Deason told Politico. “Nothing he did amounted to anything big. He was THE most effective Cabinet member by far.“
It’s impossible to build an administration that’s entirely scandal-free. But you can vet people properly, you can drum-out malefactors who slip through the cracks, and you can build an institutional culture in which team members are rewarded for exposing impropriety rather than rewarded for covering it up.
But inside the Donald Trump White House, grifters, abusers, racists, and harassers still get hired; they lurk around the Oval Office after they’ve been found out; and even in the rare instance where they’re forced out, it’s only grudgingly.
Bill Shine, for example, came on board last week to run White House communications. He got fired from his last job as president of Fox News for his role in orchestrating a massive, multi-year cover-up of widespread sexual harassment and sexual assault of employees. The White House didn’t note this in the press release.
His wife, Darla, meanwhile, has a habit of tweeting inaccurate anti-vaccination memes and a ton of racist stuff, but leading conservative commentators take the view that, since she is nice to her friends, quoting her accurately amounts to a liberal smear campaign.
Then there’s White House staff secretary Rob Porter, who was eventually forced out once it came to light that he’d beaten up a couple of his wives but the White House could never quite get its story straight on exactly what happened, seemingly because Chief of Staff John Kelly had known the facts and tried to cover them up. About a month later, Trump decided he missed Porter and wanted him back, which didn’t happen, but Kelly obviously wasn’t punished for the coverup.
Jim Jordan, a leading House conservative, stands accused by a half-dozen former Ohio State University wrestlers of turning a blind eye to routine sexual abuse of young athletes. And both President Trump and his colleagues are rallying behind Jordan with the preposterous theory that it’s all a conspiracy cooked up by the “deep state”.
What is really striking thing about the current state of Republican Party politics is not the handful of crooks and spouse abusers who’ve been forced out of their jobs, but the petulant and foot-dragging manner in which they’ve been cashiered, the continued tolerance for so many apparent malefactors, and the evident lack of desire to even attempt anything resembling a proper house-cleaning.
Trump’s administration is full of kooks and crooks because it’s led by Donald Trump. Nothing can realistically be done about it because there’s no way to hold your team to any kind of normal standard of conduct when Donald Trump is captain of the ship.
Corruption is not exactly new to American politics. But never before in American history has the president of the United States been a person whose entire career has been devoted to enri
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I miss having a smart, competent, articulate president. Looks like I'm not alone.
Barack Obama is greatest president of our lifetime: survey
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/barack-obama-is-greatest-president-o
f-our-lifetime-survey/
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
I miss having a smart, competent, articulate president. Looks like I'm not alone.
Barack Obama is greatest president of our lifetime: survey
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/barack-obama-is-greatest-president-o
f-our-lifetime-survey/
If being articulate were the only consideration when deeming one "great", then Obama would win that one.
Absolutely nothing else that he did comes to mind.
Then again, the bar is set abysmally low. Just a Carter, a Reagan, two Bush's a Clinton and a Trump to compete with.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Obama is going to be remembered as a very good, intelligent president who guided our country out of a depression and strived to make regular Americans' lives better and bring peace to an unsettled world, in spite of a congress composed of crying babies who opposed him at every turn.
Blumpy will be remembered by the entire world as a tiny fingered, self-dealing vulgarian forever embroiled in conflicts of his own making, who lied and bumbled his way into office with the help of Putin and auditoriums full of cheering rejects from a WWF audience with the FOX “NEWS” logo burned into their retina and GOP kick me signs taped to their backs. No more than a game show host whose only real success in life was a reality TV show...a sort of male Kim Kardashian with a bigger ass and even bigger ego...Who cheats at golf.
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Quote:You are focusing on the wrong end of gun. Sure, Trump looks to be a foolish hunter, an Elmer Fudd spraying shotgun pellets randomly, but he actually keeps hitting the target: making the rich ever richer. He will be fondly remembered for that by the rich. As for everyone else, they will remember mostly the noisy cover fire he provided with his machine-gun mouth running all the time as guys like me, in a nearly completely legal robbery, take an ever larger percent of the yearly income and national wealth.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Obama is going to be remembered as a very good, intelligent president who guided our country out of a depression and strived to make regular Americans' lives better and bring peace to an unsettled world, in spite of a congress composed of crying babies who opposed him at every turn.
Blumpy will be remembered by the entire world as a tiny fingered, self-dealing vulgarian forever embroiled in conflicts of his own making, who lied and bumbled his way into office with the help of Putin and auditoriums full of cheering rejects from a WWF audience with the FOX “NEWS” logo burned into their retina and GOP kick me signs taped to their backs. No more than a game show host whose only real success in life was a reality TV show...a sort of male Kim Kardashian with a bigger ass and even bigger ego...Who cheats at golf.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
As for everyone else, they will remember mostly the cover fire he provided with his machine-gun mouth running all the time as guys like me accumulated an ever larger percent of the yearly income and national wealth.
Just like pretty much every president before him in the last few decades.
Except nobody believes that your rich while you spend so much of your time preaching to an audience of 10 people here.
All that money and you never learned what ROI means?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I am practicing my writing for the six part story: "River Tam and the Problem of Evil". It is how she intimidates the Operatives so that they will let Serenity and Mal go back to doing what Mal does so well. That is a story that will earn me nothing. The ROI is 0.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
As for everyone else, they will remember mostly the cover fire he provided with his machine-gun mouth running all the time as guys like me accumulated an ever larger percent of the yearly income and national wealth.
Just like pretty much every president before him in the last few decades.
Except nobody believes that your rich while you spend so much of your time preaching to an audience of 10 people here.
All that money and you never learned what ROI means?
I found a story where, just this week, Trump made another excellent move, before he flew to Europe and continued to distract attention from what he is actually doing, making the rich richer:
The real debate in the American judiciary is whether the Constitution allows the people’s elected representatives to meaningfully regulate the national economy.
Soon to be Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh clearly believes it does not: He has called the existence of independent regulatory agencies — notably including the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau but potentially the entire alphabet soup of FCC, FTC, CFTC, SEC, FEC, etc. — a “threat to individual liberty.”
But rather than debate this squarely, we are instead faced with grifters like Kavanaugh’s former boss Ken Starr insisting that Kavanaugh stands for nothing more than a simple “pro-democracy, let-the-people-govern-themselves vision.” The truth is quite the opposite — Kavanaugh’s vision, which he shares with Starr and the bulk of the conservative legal academy, is one in which the courts should stand as staunch allies of capital and block any effort at democratic control of big business.
The business world moves fast to try to exploit profit-making opportunities. At the same time, passing laws is clunky and difficult. Between bicameralism, the presidential veto, the committee system, and the filibuster, it’s just very hard to get new legislation enacted. So if you want to regulate business effectively, you can’t play legislative whack-a-mole and spot abuses in real time. What reformers do instead is try to create regulatory agencies that are given broad mandates to police areas of conduct. But the GOP wants to kill the agencies.
A classic example is the Clean Air Act, which charges the Environmental Protection Agency with identifying forms of harmful air pollution and promulgating rules to cost-effectively reduce it, rather than counting on Congress to pass new laws every time science or business practice changes. To make this system work, judges need to show deference to the regulatory agencies and acknowledge that the congressional reformers who created them wanted the agencies to have some flexibility and discretion. Kavanaugh, as Starr correctly observers, does not believe that this deference should be granted. This is a crucial aspect of his judicial philosophy, and Starr is right to call attention to it.
But Kavanaugh’s doctrine is not about the promotion of self-government or even about deference, it’s about viewing discretion as a one-way street that is always biased against regulation. How does he do it now and how will he continue once on the Supreme Court?
The Reconstruction-era Congress passed the 14th Amendment to try to establish black people’s civil rights, only to see Gilded Age courts rule that the 14th Amendment’s reference to “due process” prohibited all kinds of economic regulations — including civil rights laws! That only changed when those old judges died, but Kavanaugh and many young and conservative intellectuals are now trying to rehabilitate the same old Gilded Age idea that the Constitution should be read primarily as a property owners’ charter, whose purpose is to stymie econo
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Originally posted by second:
I am practicing my writing for the six part story: "River Tam and the Problem of Evil". It is how she intimidates the Operatives so that they will let Serenity and Mal go back to doing what Mal does so well. That is a story that will earn me nothing. The ROI is 0.
Great. Maybe if you spent only 5% of the time you waste here on the story it might be finished before you die of old age.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:In my head, the story was finished years ago and was inspired by Indistinguishable From Magic www.fireflyfans.net/bluesun.aspx?bid=5185
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I am practicing my writing for the six part story: "River Tam and the Problem of Evil". It is how she intimidates the Operatives so that they will let Serenity and Mal go back to doing what Mal does so well. That is a story that will earn me nothing. The ROI is 0.
Great. Maybe if you spent only 5% of the time you waste here on the story it might be finished before you die of old age.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
At that point I bought a book "Time Machines, Time Travel in Physics, Metaphysics, and Science Fiction". I discovered there was too much magic and not enough real physics in the original story. Rather than travel to the past, River will send a telepathic message to the past, to herself. The complications that ensue to send that message have amused me and that is what's important to me. Finishing the story is simply more work for me and if there is any amusement it will go to other people, not me. www.springer.com/us/book/9780387985718
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe if you spent only 5% of the time you waste here on the story it might be finished before you die of old age.
If we only had 5% of your posts, reading them would still be a 100% waste of our time.
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Quote:I pretty much agree. What the Republican voters, the Russian trolls, the empty-headed 6ixStringJack, etc. post about demonstrates that the entire way their dingy little minds work, even with the smartest of them, seems to be extreme helplessness and fearfulness. I can see why these people have lots of problems: they have almost no problem solving skills in the real world and they are afraid of everything.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe if you spent only 5% of the time you waste here on the story it might be finished before you die of old age.
If we only had 5% of your posts, reading them would still be a 100% waste of our time.
This is why I'm not good writer: I always forget the example. What made you Trump voters think that he could improve your lives? He spent his entire career lying to people to get their money, then when they discovered he would not keep his promises, going to court and counter-suing the people he cheated. All those Trump voters disbelieved the true stories about Trump's past and preferred his make-believe stories.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Thursday morning at the Economic Club of Washington, House Speaker Paul Ryan had three clear messages on trade. He thinks the Trump administration’s trade wars are misguided, he doesn’t intend to do anything about it, and he is committed to pretending that there’s nothing he can do about it.
Here’s the reality of what he can do. Back in September of 2016, the Obama administration vetoed a bill that was supported by large bipartisan majorities in both houses of Congress. Congress voted to override his veto. (Obama vetoed legislation that would allow 9/11 victims’ families to sue the Saudi Arabian government over its support for the terrorists who carried out the attacks.)
Veto overrides are rare because they require two-thirds support in both houses of Congress and because it’s very unusual for a president to take an action that gets denounced by his own party’s leader, for example, Ryan denounced Trump on trade.
If Paul Ryan and other congressional Republicans who’ve long supported free trade wanted to write legislation curtailing Trump’s ability to invoke spurious national security claims to raise taxes on imported goods, it seems certain that they would be able to get the votes to do so.
The question would be whether Democrats would bail Trump out by upholding his veto. Given that there is no real strategy behind Trump’s trade approach, it seems unlikely to me that any Democrats will support Trump.
But Ryan is voluntarily surrendering to Trump without a shot, all while pretending that he has no choice.
www.economicclub.org/media-alerts/news-coverage-house-speaker-paul-rya
n
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lol... no sweat off my sack guys and gals. I usually only read the first sentence or two of any of your posts before I start gagging myself.
Or laughing hysterically... I guess it depends on the subject matter.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I remember when being ignorant was considered a flaw, not a virtue.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
I remember when being ignorant was considered a flaw, not a virtue.
And you are still correct reaverfan. Ignorance is only revered by the ignorant.
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Quote:6ix, you are the one living in semi-poverty. It could be because you are not paying attention. There were many Trump voters blaming Obama, when I know their problems are caused completely by themselves. They never understood that they need to fix themselves or at least stop making excruciatingly stupid mistakes; you know the kind: cheat on your wife or embezzle from your employer or drive drunk or buy what you can't pay for or a thousand other idiotic things Republicans are prone to do, then pray for the Lord's forgiveness on Sunday. He shall not forgive you for stupidity.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... no sweat off my sack guys and gals. I usually only read the first sentence or two of any of your posts before I start gagging myself.
Or laughing hysterically... I guess it depends on the subject matter.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump's Paint Job Choices For Air Force One
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are the one living in semi-poverty. It could be because you are not paying attention. There were many Trump voters blaming Obama, when I know their problems are caused completely by themselves. They never understood that they need to fix themselves or at least stop making excruciatingly stupid mistakes; you know the kind: cheat on your wife or embezzle from your employer or drive drunk or buy what you can't pay for or a thousand other idiotic things Republicans are prone to do, then pray for the Lord's forgiveness on Sunday. He shall not forgive you for stupidity.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol... no sweat off my sack guys and gals. I usually only read the first sentence or two of any of your posts before I start gagging myself.
Or laughing hysterically... I guess it depends on the subject matter.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I'm the only one who's been honest about my past here. We have no clue what your actual financial situation is, nor does anybody really care.
I'm not in semi-poverty, btw. I'm one of a very small percentage of people in the country who own their house free and clear and don't have a mortgage or need to pay rent. Because of this, though my yearly income falls below poverty thresholds, my lack of financial obligations puts me in the same boat that a single person making more than double my yearly income is in.
The only reason things are as tight for me as they are now is because even though I have access to a ton of credit, unlike the guy making $30-35k per year with a mortgage, I refuse to put anything on credit that I can't pay off at the end of the month.
At the end of the day my financial situation, no matter how good or bad one could argue it is, has no bearing on how ridiculous you sound every time you post here.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix writes "very small percentage". You are wrong as usual: 29% (20.6 million) of homeowners own their home outright. West Virginia tops the state list with the highest percentage of free and clear homeowners (45%) followed by Louisiana (39%) and Arkansas (38%). The poorer the state, the more likely the mortgage has been paid-off. There is a strong connection between being a Trump voter with a low income and having primitive ideas about money, credit cards, and mortgages. 6ixStringJack, I haven't got the time or interest to straighten out your hillbilly/white-trash ideas. But I will give you a clue: those ideas are why you are poor.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not in semi-poverty, btw. I'm one of a very small percentage of people in the country who own their house free and clear and don't have a mortgage or need to pay rent. Because of this, though my yearly income falls below poverty thresholds, my lack of financial obligations puts me in the same boat that a single person making more than double my yearly income is in.
The only reason things are as tight for me as they are now is because even though I have access to a ton of credit, unlike the guy making $30-35k per year with a mortgage, I refuse to put anything on credit that I can't pay off at the end of the month.
At the end of the day my financial situation, no matter how good or bad one could argue it is, has no bearing on how ridiculous you sound every time you post here.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.zillow.com/research/free-and-clear-american-mortgages-3681/
In 2018, homeownership rate was 64.2%. Since 1960, the homeownership rate in the United States has remained relatively stable. In 1960, 62.1% of American households owned their own home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home-ownership_in_the_United_States
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix writes "very small percentage". You are wrong as usual: 29% (20.6 million) of homeowners own their home outright. West Virginia tops the state list with the highest percentage of free and clear homeowners (45%) followed by Louisiana (39%) and Arkansas (38%). The poorer the state, the more likely the mortgage has been paid-off. There is a strong connection between being a Trump voter with a low income and having primitive ideas about money, credit cards, and mortgages. 6ixStringJack, I haven't got the time or interest to straighten out your hillbilly/white-trash ideas. But I will give you a clue: those ideas are why you are poor.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not in semi-poverty, btw. I'm one of a very small percentage of people in the country who own their house free and clear and don't have a mortgage or need to pay rent. Because of this, though my yearly income falls below poverty thresholds, my lack of financial obligations puts me in the same boat that a single person making more than double my yearly income is in.
The only reason things are as tight for me as they are now is because even though I have access to a ton of credit, unlike the guy making $30-35k per year with a mortgage, I refuse to put anything on credit that I can't pay off at the end of the month.
At the end of the day my financial situation, no matter how good or bad one could argue it is, has no bearing on how ridiculous you sound every time you post here.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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lol
There's zero proof you have a dime to your name here buddy.
Anybody can brag about having a ton of money. I still think you're a 40 year old virgin and all you do all day long is play League of Legends in your mom's basement and take little breaks to post your Mocha Monster and Cheetoz fueled idiotic thoughts here.
I feel bad for you dude. I'm like one of the closest things you have to a friend.
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Quote:There is zero proof you are poor, 6ixStringJack. Or that you voted for Trump. With electronic voting and no copy of a paper ballot, I think you'd have a hard time even proving you voted, which brings me to a book about Trump voters being lying sacks of shit:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's zero proof you have a dime to your name here buddy.
A new book, The Death of Truth, out July 17 puts forward an intriguing argument: The American Right’s discard for the truth is a descendent of the postmodern movement, which ruled American and European cultural production in the late 20th century.
The particular disdain for the truth that currently prevails in the US—including the rejection of “elite” journalistic fact-finding and evidence-based science—has intellectual roots in high culture:
Quote:Postmodernism is a difficult-to-define critical movement from the late 1970s that interpreted art and texts from a position that there was no knowable, central truth. Postmodern works of art and architecture, argues Kakutani, led to groundbreaking new visions, but those theories moved through culture, and were misapplied to history, social sciences, and hard sciences. That’s how the US got anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, and conspiracy theorists.
It’s safe to say that Trump has never plowed through the works of Derrida, Baudrillard, or Lyotard (if he’s even heard of them), and postmodernists are hardly to blame for all the free-floating nihilism abroad in the land. But some dumbed-down corollaries of their thinking have seeped into popular culture and been hijacked by the president’s defenders, who want to use its relativistic arguments to excuse his lies, and by right-wingers who want to question evolution or deny the reality of climate change or promote alternative facts.
The unreliable narrators of fiction, which gave us books like Lauren Groff’s Fates and Furies, TV shows like The Affair, and films like Kurosawa’s Rashomon, gave Trump and his army of yes-people the ability to get away with “alternate facts.”
This viewpoint that “all truths are partial (and a function of one’s perspective),” says Kakutani, is how creationists conclude that schools should “teach both”: their view, intelligent design, alongside the one supported by the scientific method, evolution. And how Donald Trump was able to say there were “some very fine people on both sides” at the alt-right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia last year.
“[Deconstruction] promulgated an extreme relativism that was ultimately nihilistic in its implications: anything could mean anything; an author’s intent did not matter, could not in fact be discerned; there was no such thing as an obvious or common-sense reading, because everything had an infinitude of meanings,” writes Kakutani. “In short there was no such thing as truth.”
The Death of Truth is not a heartening read, but it’s part of a group of works by dogged, reason-wielding intellectuals that necessarily remind us not give in to apathy, or be seduced by the normalization of lies.
https://quartzy.qz.com/1327759/
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Indictment of Russian officers puts pressure on Trump at Putin summit
GLASGOW, Scotland (Reuters) - If U.S. President Donald Trump was inclined to be tentative when raising election meddling with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday, the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking in 2016 has made that approach a much harder sell.
https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1K4023-OCATP
In an attempt to be politically correct the mainstream media just won't commit to saying...Trump has no intention of confronting Putin. All his finances are in jeopardy if he does. And, because he's guilty as hell in my opinion with colluding/conspiring with the Russians to get elected.
Can't wait until they can declare it outright.
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It occurred to me the other day that Trump is just another Janukovych. Maybe he’ll run off to Moscow like Yanu did?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:There is zero proof you are poor, 6ixStringJack.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's zero proof you have a dime to your name here buddy.
Never claimed I was.
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Or that you voted for Trump.
Okay.
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With electronic voting and no copy of a paper ballot, I think you'd have a hard time even proving you voted,
Probably true.
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which brings me to a book about Trump voters being lying sacks of shit:
Nobody cares.
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It occurred to me the other day that Trump is just another Janukovych. Maybe he’ll run off to Moscow like Yanu did?
We can offer to pay for the ticket.
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Why Trump is an easy mark for Putin
A former US ambassador to Russia breaks down the Trump-Putin meeting.
“There is a danger simply in having the meeting if there’s nothing to be gained from it”
Sean Illing: Is it a mistake for Trump to hold this meeting with Putin?
Michael McFaul: No, I’m not in that camp. We engage with autocrats and adversaries all the time. We did this during the Cold War under very perilous times. So generally I’m not against holding summits, even with people like Putin. But in this particular instance, it just doesn’t feel like there’s an agenda to advance.
When I was in the Obama administration, that was the way we approached all summits with Russian leaders. The first question we asked was, “What set of objectives are we going to advance by having this meeting?” And we canceled a summit with Russia that was scheduled in 2013 because there was no concrete agenda to advance and because Putin had granted asylum to Edward Snowden.
We decided that was too much of an affront for us to move forward with the meeting. What Putin has done in the last couple of years, however, is completely outrageous compared to what he did in 2013.
Sean Illing: There doesn’t seem to be any downside for Putin to have this meeting. People worry that Trump might agree to something foolish in a meeting like this, but he’s already helping to advance Putin’s foreign policy, so it’s not clear to me why anything said here will really matter.
Michael McFaul: That’s correct. In terms of his other behavior, Trump is definitely advancing policy outcomes that Putin favors. What he did in Brussels last week, for example, was absolutely in Putin’s interest. But it’s important to remember that there is a danger simply in having the meeting if there’s nothing to be gained from it.
Trump’s instinct is going to be to forget about the past, to forget about Russia’s annexation of Crimea, to forget about Russia’s war in Ukraine, to skim over Putin’s support for one of the worst dictators in the world, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and to say next to nothing about Russia violating our sovereignty in the 2016 election. Because his impulse to get along is so strong, he’s going to forge ahead and forget about all these issues.
And of course, there’s also the possibility that Trump will give something away or agree to a deal that helps Putin and does nothing to advance American interests.
More at www.vox.com/world/2018/7/15/17552900/trump-putin-helsinki-meeting-mcfa
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The man who co-wrote “The Art of the Deal” said Sunday he believes President Trump’s faculties are diminishing — and that he feels obligated to sound the alarm.
“We are in a true emergency,” Tony Schwartz said on CNN Sunday. “And the accelerated rate at which his breakdown or decompensation is occurring is cause for us, and certainly for me, to come onto TV more often, to tweet more often.”
Schwartz told CNN’s Brian Stelter that he felt comfortable making that assessment because he had “spent an enormous time with [Trump] over a period of 18 months.”
He also said he was a 25-year student of psychology and had spent “an enormous amount of time” with shrinks who were trying to get to the bottom of Trump.
Schwartz said he felt bad for journalists covering the president because they couldn’t go far enough.
“I believe the republic is in enormous risk that goes far beyond what most journalists are comfortable saying and what the general public, therefore — it doesn’t really fully understand,” he said.
More at https://nypost.com/2018/07/15/art-of-the-deal-co-author-says-trump-is-
losing-his-mind/
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What Putin has on Trump
It’s hard to know what to say after a week like the one we’ve just experienced. On one hand, none of it should’ve come as a surprise. The full frontal assault on our closest allies in the EU and NATO, like the assault on the free press and the pointless flattery of Vladimir Putin, stretch back two years to the 2016 campaign. Donald Trump has spent this past week doing exactly what he said he would do before his election, and doubling down on the denials that anything but his own genius helped him win that election. And yet, no matter how many times we’ve heard “NO COLLUSION!,” there’s something about watching it unfold in real time that stuns in a way that — like catching a cheating partner after months of suspicion or seeing a loved one die after a terminal illness — no amount of intellectual knowing, understanding, or expecting can prepare you for.
After Trump and Putin met in Helsinki, many pundits and politicians struggled to understand what it is they saw, to rationalize it, to explain it away, to speculate on what kinds of kompromat the Russians could have on Trump, when the answer — like infidelity or death — was staring them, us, in the face. Yes, Putin has something on Trump: He helped him win. That’s the kompromat.
Facing the press after his meeting with Trump, Putin admitted — openly, arrogantly — that yes, he had wanted Trump to win in 2016. But we had known that as early as…2016. His state-run media didn’t do much to hide their boss’s preference: anyone but Hillary Clinton. I remember constantly explaining that summer why Putin preferred Trump to Clinton. Through the spring of 2016, Kremlin TV was clear that it wasn’t that Putin wanted Trump to win, it was that he wanted Clinton to lose. The propaganda machine — and, as we now know, the covert influence machine — got behind Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, Jill Stein — anyone who wasn’t Clinton.
More at www.gq.com/story/what-putin-has-on-trump
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lol
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Quote:Trump's Space Force will need a motto like the Marines' "Always Prepared." Or the Air Force's "Aim High." I've got it! Trump's Space Force, "No, we don't have light sabers."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump's Space Force will need a motto like the Marines' "Always Prepared." Or the Air Force's "Aim High." I've got it! Trump's Space Force, "No, we don't have light sabers."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Trump always lies, right?
In that case, why not make it "Trump's Space Force: Now with light sabers!"
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"Trumps Space Farce."
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Quote:Trump isn't smart enough to devise that motto, but you are. Congratulations!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump always lies, right?
In that case, why not make it "Trump's Space Force: Now with light sabers!"
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Besides lying constantly, Trump has famously cheated on his wives. It is a fact that Democrats are less inclined to cheat on spouses than Republicans.
Analysis finds Democrats used adultery website Ashley Madison substantially less than other US voters.
Democrats are less inclined than Republicans to cheat on their spouses, according to researchers who matched voter records to accounts hacked from a US website that specialises in extramarital affairs.
The study of 80,000 voters in five US states found that Democrats used the Ashley Madison adultery website substantially less than Republicans, Libertarians, Greens and unaffiliated voters. Libertarians consistently ranked as the site’s most frequent clients.
The results highlight an apparent paradox where those with more conservative views and supposedly stricter attitudes towards sex seem happier to hop into bed with someone outside their relationship than more liberal types.
“Our results are perhaps the strongest evidence yet that people with more sexually conservative values, although they claim to act accordingly, are more sexually deviant in practice than their more sexually liberal peers,” the researchers write in Archives of Sexual Behaviour.
More at www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jul/19/ashley-madison-democrats-less-
inclined-cheat-spouses-republicans
I noticed the same at work and as a boss: the Republicans cheat constantly and yet are also constantly bragging about their moral superiority to Democrats. I have cheated zero times on my wife and my taxes. I guess that makes me inferior to the talkative Trump voters I know. They always have an angle, a corner they cut, some income they don't report, a little larceny, on their tax preparation. And they share tips on how to pay less than they owe and not get caught!
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Quote:JFK? Ted Kennedy? Bill Clinton? Anthony Wiener? John Edwards? Gary Hart?
It is a fact that Democrats are less inclined to cheat on spouses than Republicans.- SECCOND
Are you even reading what you're posting?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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It is a fact that Democrats are less inclined to cheat on spouses than Republicans.- SECCOND
Are you even reading what you're posting?
lol
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There’s a reason presidents aren’t supposed to talk about monetary policy, and that’s the 1972 election. Back then, as we now know from his tapes, President Nixon was able to pressure then-Fed Chair Arthur Burns into cutting rates when he really shouldn’t have in the run-up to his reelection. The result was not only faster growth that helped Nixon secure a second term, but also what would eventually be much higher inflation that would take over a decade to wring out of the economy. And it’s something we still have to worry about today. That’s because lower rates are always good for a president’s short-term prospects, but aren’t always for the economy’s long-term ones. The only way to solve this problem, then, is to avoid it by keeping politicians out of monetary policy to begin with.
It’s something Trump might learn the hard way.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/07/20/trump-will-regret-criticizi
ng-federal-reserve/?utm_term=.9284294df776
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How the Right Wing Convinces Itself That Liberals Are Evil
Since the 1950s, the conservative movement has justified its bad behavior by persuading itself that the left is worse.
If you spend any time consuming right-wing media in America, you quickly learn the following: Liberals are responsible for racism, slavery, and the Ku Klux Klan. They admire Mussolini and Hitler, and modern liberalism is little different from fascism or, even worse, communism. The mainstream media and academia cannot be trusted because of the pervasive, totalitarian nature of liberal culture.
So-called Never Trump conservatives lament that the Republican Party and, indeed, the conservative movement have ceased to be about ideas beyond slavish devotion to Trump’s cult of personality. But this critique ignores the centrality of the idea of liberal nefariousness even in the self-consciously intellectual corners of the conservative movement. Jonah Goldberg, who has been affiliated with National Review for twenty years, has called for a revived conservative intellectual vigor to tackle the policy challenges of the twenty-first century. He was also the author, in 2008, of the book Liberal Fascism, which—until a last-minute change by Goldberg—bore the subtitle The Totalitarian Temptation from Mussolini to Hillary Clinton.
The idea that the left is depraved, corrupt, and ruthless has been an important strain of American conservatism since the movement began. But it has metastasized. Right-wing policy ideas have been so thoroughly discredited — does anyone even argue anymore that trickle-down economics will ensure mass prosperity? — that the only apparent reason for conservatism’s existence is to fight back against evil liberals. This is, of course, not the sign of a healthy political movement. But has it ever been healthy?
In 1961, what did the right-wing say about Medicare for the elderly? The American Medical Association produced an LP in which an actor opened a broadside against the proposed Medicare program by attributing to Norman Thomas, a six-time Socialist Party candidate for president, a made-up quote that “under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.” Because these ideologies were so interchangeable in the imaginations of many conservatives — and were covertly collaborating to enact their nefarious agenda — this meant that it was both important and necessary to fight back through equally underhanded means, e.g. Medicare = Communist slavery of doctors.
The title of that LP? Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine. It’s a reminder that the future president lied freely and constantly in his attempt to stop Medicare. Now he is a Republican Saint.
More at https://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/july-august-2018/how-the-right-
wing-convinces-itself-that-liberals-are-evil/
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There’s a reason presidents aren’t supposed to talk about monetary policy, and that’s the 1972 election. Back then, as we now know from his tapes, President Nixon was able to pressure then-Fed Chair Arthur Burns into cutting rates when he really shouldn’t have in the run-up to his reelection. The result was not only faster growth that helped Nixon secure a second term, but also what would eventually be much higher inflation that would take over a decade to wring out of the economy. And it’s something we still have to worry about today. That’s because lower rates are always good for a president’s short-term prospects, but aren’t always for the economy’s long-term ones. The only way to solve this problem, then, is to avoid it by keeping politicians out of monetary policy to begin with.
It’s something Trump might learn the hard way.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/07/20/trump-will-regret-criticizi
ng-federal-reserve/?utm_term=.9284294df776
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And you wonder why I thought that GWB was the worst president we ever had, only to be followed by an even worse one....
2000: GDP = 4.1%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 3.4%
Feb 2 5.75% Raised rates despite stock market decline in March.
2001: GDP = 1.0%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 1.6%
Jan 3 6.0% Bush took office.
Mar 20 5.0% Recession began. Fed lowered rates to fight it.
Jun 27 3.75% EGTTRA tax rebate enacted.
Sep 17 3.0% 9/11 attacks.
Oct 2 2.5% Afghanistan War.
2002: GDP = 1.8%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 2.4%
Nov 6 1.25%
2003: GDP = 2.8%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 1.9%
Jun 25 1.00% JGTRRA tax cuts enacted.
2004: GDP = 3.8%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 3.3%
Jun 30 1.25% Low rates pushed interest-only loans. Helped cause Subprime Mortgage Crisis.
2005: GDP = 3.3%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 3.4%
Feb 2 2.5% Borrowers could not afford mortgages when rates reset in 3rd
Fed Chair Ben Bernanke (February 2006 - January 2014)
2006: GDP = 2.7%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 2.5%
Jan 31 4.5% Raised to cool housing market bubble. More homeowners default.
2007: GDP = 1.8%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 4.1%
Sep 18 4.75% Home sales fell.
Dec 11 4.25% LIBOR rose.
2008: GDP = -0.3%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 0.1%
Jan 30 3.0% Tax rebate.
Mar 18 2.25% Bear Stearns bailout.
Apr 30 2.0% Lehman fails. Bank bailout approved. AIG bailout.
Dec 16 0.25% Effectively zero. The lowest fed funds rate possible.
AND THERE IT SAT, EFFECTIVELY ZERO FOR SEVEN YEARS
Fed Chair Janet Yellen (February 2014 - February 2018)
2015: GDP = 2.6%, Unemployment = 6%, Inflation = 0.7%
Dec 17 0.5% Growth stabilized.
2016: GDP = 3.2%, Unemployment = 4.6%, Inflation = 2.1%
Dec 14 0.75%
2017: GDP = 2.6%, Unemployment = 4.1%, Inflation = 2.1%
Mar 15 1.0% Fed was steady on its path of normalizing its benchmark
Fed Chair Jerome Powell (February 2018 - February 2022)
2018
Mar 21 1.75% Fed projects steady growth.
Jun 13 2.0%
(Sources: New York Fed. "A History of Fed Leaders and Interest Rates," The New York Times, December 16, 2015.)
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Quote:6ixStringJack, one of many reasons you live in semi-poverty is because you have no real or true grasp of what a President can and cannot do to the economy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And you wonder why I thought that GWB was the worst president we ever had, only to be followed by an even worse one....
Bush was bad because he started wars that he had complete control of winning or losing. And then he lost them. Then there was the time Bush said, “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.” I remember. Nearly everyone who voted for Trump does not.
www.salon.com/2006/06/20/911pdb/
As for the economy, Bush or Obama had very little control. The economy is controlled by me and 3,000,000 more just like me. My group outnumbers the US military and has far more firepower than the Pentagon. My group is powerful because of the system Washington and Jefferson set into motion to protect rich people like themselves from poor people like 6ix. That being said, Trump does have control of little parts of the economy. Interstate sale of electricity for example. And he is doing his best to botch it, by favoring his donors and the 50,000 coal miners. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States
Here is that story:
Pity Rick Perry, President Donald Trump wants him to blow up electricity markets he pioneered
www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Pity-Rick-
Perry-President-Donald-Trump-wants-him-13089634.php
Pity Rick Perry. His boss demands not only his loyalty but his soul. Trump’s plan will take $16.7 billion a year from consumers and redistribute it to Trump’s coal and nuclear industry allies, according to The Brattle Group, the energy industry’s foremost consultants.
The former Texas governor built his political career on the slogan “Texas, open for business.” His conservative philosophy was simple: Wipe away regulations, lower taxes and promote free enterprise.
Then he accepted President Donald Trump’s offer to serve as secretary of energy.
Perry is struggling to find a plausible excuse to reward Trump’s coal-industry donors and supporters by blowing up the nation’s competitive electricity markets, which have made U.S. electricity bills the envy of the world.
The fact that Perry oversaw the groundbreaking privatization of the Texas electricity market makes his recent work especially galling. One might expect our former governor to cite his experience, defend free enterprise, encourage private-sector solutions and denounce government interference. Not this time.
Trump promised to save and grow the coal and nuclear power industries even though neither is competitive in the age of cheap natural gas and renewable energy. So he’s ordered Perry to devise a scheme to force private electric companies to buy expensive electricity from privately owned nuclear and coal-fired power plants.
For over a year, Perry has floundered in justifying this unprecedented government intervention. In April 2017, he asked experts at the Department of Energy to assess whether increased reliance on gas and renewables would endanger the power supply. They concluded no, it doesn’t.
Last fall, he proposed a rule to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission requiring the use of coal-fired and nuclear power to guarantee resilience. The Republican majority rejected his reasoning, siding instead with the 95 percent of electric companies and grid operators who said it was unnecessary.
According to a memo obtained last month by Bloomberg News, Perry’s new plan is to declare a national emergency under the Federal Power Act and the Defense Production Act. He says we can’t rely on natural gas power plants because pipelines are too vulnerable to cyberattack.
Therefore, subsidies for nuclear and coal-fired power plants are necessary because they keep weeks of fuel on site, Perry argued. His hyperbole fails even basic analysis.
Whether it’s snowstorms, heat waves, hurricanes or cyberattacks, the most vulnerable links in the power grids are transmission lines. Yet,
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ixStringJack, one of many reasons you live in semi-poverty is because you have no real or true grasp of what a President can and cannot do to the economy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And you wonder why I thought that GWB was the worst president we ever had, only to be followed by an even worse one....
Bush was bad because he started wars that he had complete control of winning or losing. And then he lost them. Then there was the time Bush said, “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.” I remember. Nearly everyone who voted for Trump does not.
As for the economy, Bush or Obama had very little control.
Then go fuck yourself about your previous post about Trump and monetary policy.
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The economy is controlled by me and 3,000,000 more just like me.
Then go fuck yourself twice for ruining everything for everybody else.
Seriously. What would you expect anybody's reply to this to be other than go fuck yourself, Second?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ixStringJack, one of many reasons you live in semi-poverty is because you have no real or true grasp of what a President can and cannot do to the economy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And you wonder why I thought that GWB was the worst president we ever had, only to be followed by an even worse one....
Bush was bad because he started wars that he had complete control of winning or losing. And then he lost them. Then there was the time Bush said, “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.” I remember. Nearly everyone who voted for Trump does not.
As for the economy, Bush or Obama had very little control.
Then go fuck yourself about your previous post about Trump and monetary policy.Quote:
The economy is controlled by me and 3,000,000 more just like me.
Then go fuck yourself twice for ruining everything for everybody else.
Seriously. What would you expect anybody's reply to this to be other than go fuck yourself, Second?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ixStringJack, you keep demonstrating why you are living in semi-poverty. Your understanding and analysis of who actually controls the American economy is wrong, 6ixStringJack. I am just one in 3,000,000 richest people in America, the people who really control the country when states and federal government let them do as they please. Your dumb ass is owned by one of those 3,000,000 and almost certainly it is a Republican who is mistreating you. It is not me. You need to figure out who that person is and then extort money from him without going to jail.
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Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, you keep demonstrating why you are living in semi-poverty. Your understanding and analysis of who actually controls the American economy is wrong, 6ixStringJack. I am just one in 3,000,000 richest people in America, the people who really control the country when states and federal government let them do as they please. Your dumb ass is owned by one of those 3,000,000 and almost certainly it is a Republican who is mistreating you. It is not me. You need to figure out who that person is and then extort money from him without going to jail.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Correction.
I'm not owned by anybody.
Before I got the job I'm working now, I went 2 1/2 years without working. Granted it was a total waste of time and I drank it all away, but the point is that I didn't work all that time, I didn't incur any debt and I still have a credit rating of 822.
I love my current job. It pays the bills, it's given me a body I haven't had since my early 20's, I've saved nearly $5,000 since I started, and they know that I won't work more than 3 days a week at my current pay, so don't even bother asking me. They even give the two 3 day blocks all together, so I work 6 then have 8 off.
I'm one of the most free mother fuckers in this country.
I don't blame people like you for being afraid of people like me. Yanno... those who don't "need" to surround themselves with a bunch of new shit they don't need and can't afford. The people who aren't wage slaves and aren't forced to work whatever menial job they can just to pay off their debtors.
I can live so far under the radar with almost zero income and a literal TON of free time.
You got the wrong Prole, son. And you and your rich buddies should count your blessings that I'm just an anomaly and there aren't' an army of people like me.
Save your elitist bragging for somebody who cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:If you think I will hire you with your bundle of Trump neurosis, the answer is "Hell, No!" Trump voting employees are trouble (lazy, stupid, dishonest) and Texas employers can discriminate based on political beliefs.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Correction.
I'm not owned by anybody.
Before I got the job I'm working now, I went 2 1/2 years without working. Granted it was a total waste of time and I drank it all away, but the point is that I didn't work all that time, I didn't incur any debt and I still have a credit rating of 822.
I love my current job. It pays the bills, it's given me a body I haven't had since my early 20's, I've saved nearly $5,000 since I started, and they know that I won't work more than 3 days a week at my current pay, so don't even bother asking me. They even give the two 3 day blocks all together, so I work 6 then have 8 off.
I'm one of the most free mother fuckers in this country.
I don't blame people like you for being afraid of people like me. Yanno... those who don't "need" to surround themselves with a bunch of new shit they don't need and can't afford. The people who aren't wage slaves and are forced to work whatever menial job they can just to pay off their debtors.
I can live so far under the radar with almost zero income and a literal TON of free time.
You got the wrong Prole, son.
Save your elitist bragging for somebody who cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-employers-discriminate-based-on-po
litical-beliefs-or-affiliation.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If you think I will hire you with your bundle of Trump neurosis, the answer is "Hell, No!" Trump voting employees are trouble and Texas employers can discriminate based on political beliefs.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Correction.
I'm not owned by anybody.
Before I got the job I'm working now, I went 2 1/2 years without working. Granted it was a total waste of time and I drank it all away, but the point is that I didn't work all that time, I didn't incur any debt and I still have a credit rating of 822.
I love my current job. It pays the bills, it's given me a body I haven't had since my early 20's, I've saved nearly $5,000 since I started, and they know that I won't work more than 3 days a week at my current pay, so don't even bother asking me. They even give the two 3 day blocks all together, so I work 6 then have 8 off.
I'm one of the most free mother fuckers in this country.
I don't blame people like you for being afraid of people like me. Yanno... those who don't "need" to surround themselves with a bunch of new shit they don't need and can't afford. The people who aren't wage slaves and are forced to work whatever menial job they can just to pay off their debtors.
I can live so far under the radar with almost zero income and a literal TON of free time.
You got the wrong Prole, son.
Save your elitist bragging for somebody who cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
LOL... I wasn't aware this was a job interview.
What makes you think I'd ever even consider working for a dildo like you anyhow?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Apparently you felt yourself too superior to too many employers too often and look where you are now. Oh, it must be Obama's fault. It can't be your fault. What America needs is Trump to make it all better for lazy, stupid, dishonest, racist, alcoholic whites with money, marital, child-raising and anger-control problems.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL... I wasn't aware this was a job interview.
What makes you think I'd ever even consider working for a dildo like you anyhow?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Apparently you felt yourself too superior to too many employers too often and look where you are now. Oh, it must be Obama's fault. It can't be your fault. What America needs is Trump to make it all better for lazy, stupid, dishonest, racist, alcoholic whites with money, marital, child-raising and anger-control problems.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL... I wasn't aware this was a job interview.
What makes you think I'd ever even consider working for a dildo like you anyhow?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I'm loving where I'm at now, brother.
How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things?
Yup. It's been a while.
I already told you that I don't give a shit about that game anymore, son. I don't need to play it, so I'm opting out.
Trump is your problem. Not mine.
And the next time we inevitably have another Democrat running the show, I'll be saying the same exact words to Auraptor and JSF.
There is only 2 ways that my life is going to fall apart at this point. One is if I ever go back to drinking, and the other is if the economy completely unravels and society as a whole starts to crumble.
I'm never drinking again, and if the second thing ever happens we're all up the creek without a paddle, so I'm not going to spend another single second worrying about that.
I dunno man. You keep telling me how great you are because you have so much money.
All I ever hear you do is bitch and moan about everything.
I feel fine.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm loving where I'm at now, brother.
How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things?
Yup. It's been a while.
www.amazon.com/Your-Money-Life-Transforming-Relationship/dp/0143115766/
That it a launching point for me. For those who have not retired from life, what should they be thinking about Trump? We know he admires Putin. Trump doesn't have the power over America that Putin has over Russia because George Washington didn't give himself the equivalent powers of Stalin. But Trump can follow Putin part of the way down the same path as Russia has gone. Where did Putin take Russia to?
The mystery of Russia’s missing wealth shows how Putin retains his power.
Russia is a nuclear power. But an economic power it is not. Last year, the country’s GDP totaled around $1.6 trillion, less than that of the state of Texas. Nor is its wealth growing: Russia’s GDP in 2017 was smaller than it was in 2013, adjusting for price changes.
And yet there’s no question of Russian president Vladimir Putin’s international influence. Witness his ability to hack bigger, richer countries’ democratic elections, or, as this week’s Helsinki summit highlighted, to cow Donald Trump. The Kremlin’s knack for punching above its weight when it comes to geopolitics is a reminder that wealth sometimes matter less than what you do with it.
Or, more precisely, to whom you give it. Oligarchs are an essential part of Putin’s power apparatus. And as a recent working paper (pdf) by economists Thomas Piketty, Gabriel Zucman, and Filip Novokmet reveals, the wealth that won their fealty came directly from the country’s reserves—and, indeed, from the pockets of the Russian people.
https://wid.world/document/soviets-oligarchs-inequality-property-russi
a-1905-2016/
The Russia that should have been
By any reckoning, Russia should be rich. It has a bounty of natural resources —oil and gas, obviously, but also coal, grains, seafood, and vast stores of minerals. Though it exported little under the Soviet regime, that changed rapidly after its collapse in 1991. Between 1993 and 2015, Russia exported around 10% more each year, on average, than it imported. But whether trade surpluses are economically healthy depends on what you do with them. Putin has some ideas. Trump has some seriously strange ideas that match with Putin's ideas on trade surpluses.
More at https://qz.com/1330955
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm loving where I'm at now, brother.
How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things?
Yup. It's been a while.
I think that your problem is that all you value is money.
How worthless of a human being would you be without all of yours?
That's a question you should probably be asking yourself every single day, if you haven't been already.
I would strongly advise against the temptation to avoid being brutally honest with yourself while making that evaluation.
One thing that I do possess that you don't is a true and honest stock of who I am and what I am capable of, as well as just how low in the depths of pathetic nothingness that I can allow myself sink... and for just how long I could survive there without allowing it to consume me... or even worse.
And it didn't break me. No. It made me much, much stronger. I have real knowledge of my self. My strengths. My weaknesses. What it is I should value in life and what is just silly shit that most people worry about but doesn't actually mean anything in the scheme of things.
I know exactly who's eyes are staring back at me when I look into the mirror now.
Do you?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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*Life lessons from 6*
In bookstores now!
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Quote:As far as most people know, I don't have any money. I'm living on a pension, they think. I give the appearance of an old guy that is kind of generous. Somebody dumped a dead pitbull at the cemetery? I will pick it up. I do the stinking jobs, not hire them done. I don't want to end up like Oprah or Bill Gates, living in a multitude of big houses so that they can isolate themselves from all the greedy Americans who want a share. I live in a dinky little house in a middle class neighborhood a very short distance from the poor in Baytown. I already found out what happens when I take on other people's problems, people who create their own problems faster than even Jeff Bezos could solve them. Bezos is smart enough to put his excess money into rockets and fire it into outer space. That is less trouble.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm loving where I'm at now, brother.
How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things?
Yup. It's been a while.
I think that your problem is that all you value is money.
How worthless of a human being would you be without all of yours?
That's a question you should probably be asking yourself, if you haven't been already.
I would advise the temptation to avoid being brutally honest with yourself while making that evaluation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
If you don't know, Trump hates Jeff Bezos, mostly because Bezos and the Post can prove Trump is a braying jackass. Mostly, Trump voters are unaware that Trump is incompetent. They believe loudness can override any amount of confusion, ignorance, dishonesty, and lack of organization.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/07/trump-bezos-feud-amazon-washin
gton-post-taxes-usps
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Oh, I just wanted to salt this thread with that nice quote of your, SECOND. Yanno, the one where you like it when Americans argue so that you can do as you please. (IN RED, BELOW) That way, every time you start stirring the pot, maybe people will remember WHY you're doing it.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:In private, most Republican lawmakers agree that Donald Trump’s press conference with Russian president Vladimir Putin was a horrifying display of contempt for American institutions. But they won’t speak out. “Most Republican members are willing to admit POTUS doesn’t operate in reality, but know they’re doomed in their next primary if they say so publicly,” says Dave Wasserman of Cook Political Report. “Republicans see no upside in speaking out — and fear political suicide if they do,” note Mike Allen and Jonathan Swan for Axios.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I just wanted to salt this thread with that nice quote of your, SECOND. Yanno, the one where you like it when Americans argue so that you can do as you please. (IN RED, BELOW) That way, every time you start stirring the pot, maybe people will remember WHY you're doing it.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Republican Trump critics in Congress insist there’s nothing they can do, lest they enrage the base and jeopardize their seats.
Of course, there’s one other possibility: That these “critics” aren’t as serious as they appear. They might disagree with the president — even think he’s dangerous — but not so much that they would jeopardize tax cuts for the rich and additional conservative judges. If that’s the case, then the dreaded “base” may just be an excuse to avoid hard questions about inaction, and to blame their complicity on something beyond their control.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/the-pro-trump-republican-b
ase-that-many-politicians-fear-may-be-shrinking.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:As far as most people know, I don't have any money. I'm living on a pension, they think. I give the appearance of an old guy that is kind of generous. Somebody dumped a dead pitbull at the cemetery? I will pick it up. I do the stinking jobs, not hire them done. I don't want to end up like Oprah or Bill Gates, living in a multitude of big houses so that they can isolate themselves from all the greedy Americans who want a share. I live in a dinky little house in a middle class neighborhood a very short distance from the poor in Baytown. I already found out what happens when I take on other people's problems, people who create their own problems faster than even Jeff Bezos could solve them. Bezos is smart enough to put his excess money into rockets and fire it into outer space. That is less trouble.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm loving where I'm at now, brother.
How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things?
Yup. It's been a while.
I think that your problem is that all you value is money.
How worthless of a human being would you be without all of yours?
That's a question you should probably be asking yourself, if you haven't been already.
I would advise the temptation to avoid being brutally honest with yourself while making that evaluation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
That is not at all what I was talking about, and I'm pretty sure that you know that.
If that is how you live your life, I actually respect that for it being a series of intelligent decisions. When people at work talk about winning the power ball and what they'd do, they even joke that if I won it I'd still be driving the same POS car, and they're right. I wouldn't even fix up the outside of my house all that much. But the inside would be filled with all kinds of technological marvels, and my garage would be a handyman's wet dream. But from the outside, it would look exactly the same as it ever has.
I don't even remember to lock my doors half the time that I'm home.
But that's not answering any questions of what kind of man you are. I wasn't expecting a real answer because you don't have any clue yourself. If we are to believe you about how much money you have, there isn't a problem in the world you couldn't buy your way out of. You don't have any real concerns in your life. Picking up dead pitbulls, or living in a middle class neighborhood and driving a car that isn't flashy aren't examples of struggles you face. It is just what intelligent people of any income bracket would do as to not draw unwanted attention to themselves. It comes from a place of self preservation. It's not as if you're doing that to free up money to go out and do charitable deeds with it... you said so yourself.
I'm not even attacking you here. You're not any different than most other people would be with a lot of money in terms of character, and maybe even a little smarter than a majority of them.
All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
So long as you serve God Money, you will never know what Freedom truly tastes like.
No judgement. No joke. I honestly hope that one day you can.
That goes for anybody here who hasn't as well.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you...
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you...
What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job.
Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now?
Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way?
Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:From long experience, I noticed that the Americans who are failing in life think that feeling bad and saying sorry is enough. It is not. That is why they are failing. They need to do more. Fix what they broke. Set right what they did wrong. Make a different decision.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you...
What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job.
Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now?
Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way?
Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saying empty words that they can take back and feeling depressed will count for nothing in the real world. That is especially true if you keep on doing what caused the trouble in the first place. You have got to do something different and bigger. There is a three way choice coming: Vote GOP, Don't Vote, Vote Democrat. The first two choices are as worthless as saying "Sorry". I am sure millions of Americans will fuck up this decision and then they will wonder until they die why things never get better for themselves. Because they voted once, it must be the government's fault! No. It is the voters' fault, all the thousands of little mistakes and bad decisions and habitual laziness during the years they waited for the next election, where hope is in their little heart that this election fixes everything instantaneously.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Beginning in 2012, Trump accused Obama of planning to announce hostilities against Iran in order for Obama to win an election. Trump wrote on separate tweets:
“I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face!”
“Remember what I previously said – Obama will someday attack Iran in order to show how tough he is.”
“Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly – not skilled!”
Nothing Trump wrote about Obama was true. But Trump loved his Iran Conspiracy Theory so much that he is following the Iran plan for the 2018 election.
The details of Trump’s old tweets and the leaks of Trump’s new and very slimy plans are at https://qz.com/1334536
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:From long experience, I noticed that the Americans who are failing in life think that feeling bad and saying sorry is enough. It is not. That is why they are failing. They need to do more. Fix what they broke. Set right what they did wrong. Make a different decision.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you...
What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job.
Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now?
Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way?
Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saying empty words that they can take back and feeling depressed will count for nothing in the real world. That is especially true if you keep on doing what caused the trouble in the first place. You have got to do something different and bigger. There is a three way choice coming: Vote GOP, Don't Vote, Vote Democrat. The first two choices are as worthless as saying "Sorry". I am sure millions of Americans will fuck up this decision and then they will wonder until they die why things never get better for themselves. Because they voted once, it must be the government's fault! No. It is the voters' fault, all the thousands of little mistakes and bad decisions and habitual laziness during the years they waited for the next election, where hope is in their little heart that this election fixes everything instantaneously.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
To be clear, I never said I'm sorry.
I'm not sorry.
We're still much better off than the alternative.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Republicans Have Mostly Stayed Loyal to Their Party In the Trump Era (But would you expect liars, dumbasses and racists to have an epiphany, a sudden and striking realization about Trump causing them to quit the GOP??)
Whenever the topic of Donald Trump’s continuing popularity among Republicans comes up, somebody asks if maybe it’s just an artifact of the polling. If moderates are abandoning the Republican Party because of Trump, then simple arithmetic says that most of the folks who are left will be big fans. So then: are people abandoning the Republican Party? Luckily, Charles Franklin has just taken a look and here are his results:
The graph going back to 2004 is at
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/07/republicans-have-mostly-stayed-
loyal-to-their-party-in-the-trump-era/
Roughly speaking, not much has happened. Since 2016, Democratic Party ID has been flat at about 46 percent and Republican Party ID is slightly down from 42 percent to 41 percent. There’s just not a lot going on here.
I’ve chosen to highlight the chart that includes leaners, since a lot of research shows that leaners are as reliably Republican as self-professed partisans. They just don’t like to admit it for some reason. However, Franklin has a full set of charts in this thread, including party ID charts that exclude leaners. They show a little more movement—around 4 percentage points—but that’s still a pretty modest amount, and they’ve probably just migrated from Republican to Lean Republican anyway.
Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans.
I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect.
Time for a change?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you...
What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job.
Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now?
Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way?
Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right.
I use to think that way in my 20s. "What's the point?"
You want to know what's ironic? It's a totally selfish point of view, you not giving a sh*t. But in a lot of ways so is the opposite. I can't imagine not trying to do something even if it's only informing myself as much as possible and expressing my opinions about @sswipe Trump in public. If that was all I did I'd still feel a lot better about myself than if I did nothing. So good news: you don't have to give up putting yourself first.
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Steve Schmidt quit.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/393170-gop-strategist-denounces-party
-will-vote-for-democrats
He'z the jeneus hoo pushed for Sara Palin in 2008. We can partly xank him for Obama.
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Quote:Yes! It is time for a change. It is possible to win the presidency with 23 percent of the popular vote.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans.
I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect.
Time for a change?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-per
cent-of-the-popular-vote
The same is true of Senators. Wyoming (with a tiny population) has just as many Senators (both Republicans) as California. Republicans can get a super-majority in the Senate by winning those crap-hole states that have only 25% of the population. It is 154 years past time to change the U.S. constitution and fix this.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:If you think Democrats can talk Republicans into changing their vote, you don’t know these Republicans:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect.
Time for a change?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
“Obama was acting at the behest of the Islamic nation,” [Sheila] began one afternoon when she was getting her nails done with her friend Linda. She was referring to allegations that President Barack Obama is a Muslim, not a Christian — allegations that are false. “He carried a Koran and it was not for literary purposes. If you look at it, the number of Christians is decreasing, the number of Muslims has grown. We allowed them to come in.”
“Obama woke a sleeping nation,” said Linda.
“He woke a sleeping Christian nation,” Sheila corrected.
Linda nodded. It wasn’t just Muslims that posed a threat, she said, but all kinds of immigrants coming into the country.
“Unpapered people,” Sheila said, adding that she had seen them in the county emergency room and they got treated before her. “And then the Americans are not served.”
Love thy neighbor, she said, meant “love thy American neighbor.”
Welcome the stranger, she said, meant the “legal immigrant stranger.”
“The Bible says, ‘If you do this to the least of these, you do it to me,’?” Sheila said, quoting Jesus. “But the least of these are Americans, not the ones crossing the border.” ...
God was using Trump just like he had used the Apostle Paul, she said.
“Paul had murdered Christians and he went on to minister to many, many people,” Sheila said. “I think he’s being molded by God for the role. I think he’s the right man for the right time. It’s about the survival of the Christian nation.”
It’s tempting to just dismiss these ideas — that Christian obligations to charity should only apply to people with the proper passports and papers — as rank justification for bigotry. But it’s worth going a level deeper, to try to understand why someone like Sheila could say things like that.
And the last line, about “the survival of the Christian nation,” is crucial to doing that. Because this sense of existential threat is, according to the best research we have, a vital reason why Trump’s brand of white identity politics has attracted so many followers — and will likely continue to attract more in the future.
More about unchangeable Republicans at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/24/17603190/trump-evangelicals-
race-status-threat
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If you think Democrats can talk Republicans into changing their vote, you don’t know these Republicans...
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect.
Time for a change?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Those republicans are no more likely to ever flip than you are likely to become one. Static individuals who will never change and surround themselves only within the walls of their echo chamber are predictable and don't matter.
Where the Dems are going to lose again in the mid terms and once again in 2020 if they don't learn their lesson a 2nd time is by continuing to insult the other side and call them Russians or Nazis or [insert basket of deplorables comment here]. A lot of people on both sides don't vote. Insult them enough and they'll finally get off their ass just to spite you though.
Same thing goes for those of us on the fence. That split went heavily against Clinton even though the polls leading all the way up to election day were telling a much different story.
Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong about this though. I'm a patient man. We'll see if I am or not.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Yes! It is time for a change. It is possible to win the presidency with 23 percent of the popular vote.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans.
I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect.
Time for a change?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-per
cent-of-the-popular-vote
The same is true of Senators. Wyoming (with a tiny population) has just as many Senators (both Republicans) as California. Republicans can get a super-majority in the Senate by winning those crap-hole states that have only 25% of the population. It is 154 years past time to change the U.S. constitution and fix this.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Oh. We're going to bitch about the Electoral College again today, huh?
We've been over this before. Please save any Electoral College bitching for when the Democrats are in charge again. Yanno... the time when Democrats historically forget all about the fact that there is an Electoral College.
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The problem is collective narcissism, which is a thing. Blumpybots don't think for themselves and never have. Like Blumpy, they think of politics as a competition. If they win, they win. Yay, team!
They're oblivious to what they've won, or how it affects them. When it goes to shit, it's the other team's fault. Narcissists don't have the ability to take personal responsibility or admit when they're wrong.
All you have to do is listen to reichwing radio, or a Faux talking head and it's as clear as day.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
The problem is collective narcissism, which is a thing. Blumpybots don't think for themselves and never have. Like Blumpy, they think of politics as a competition. If they win, they win. Yay, team!
They're oblivious to what they've won, or how it affects them. When it goes to shit, it's the other team's fault. Narcissists don't have the ability to take personal responsibility or admit when they're wrong.
All you have to do is listen to reichwing radio, or a Faux talking head and it's as clear as day.
I agree.
I just don't see how you can say anything different about the other side either.
If you're going to go the path of Wishy and start handing out psychological disorders to everyone, I think Narcissism is probably the most prominant one that afflicts Americans today. Probably ANY humans that live in the "internet culture". That is all that instagram and facebook really is. En masse Narcissism.
I don't think you believe me when I say that I was very much against GWB when he was president. My posts are all here. You can see the past. I'm not a Russian. I'm not a Nazi. I'm not a Blumpy-Bot. I'm not a GOP sycophant.
But can you see how calling somebody all of those names everyday will push someone to lean that way over time?
I'll be the first to admit that I lean a lot further Right than I'm comfortable with. It wasn't always that way.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:If I wanted to use a movie to describe what is wrong with most Americans, I'd use Rashomon. From the obituary of the script writer who died July 19th at 100:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I agree.
I just don't see how you can say anything different about the other side either.
If you're going to go the path of Wishy and start handing out psychological disorders to everyone, I think Narcissism is probably the most prominant one that afflicts Americans today. Probably ANY humans that live in the "internet culture". That is all that instagram and facebook really is. En masse Narcissism.
I don't think you believe me when I say that I was very much against GWB when he was president. My posts are all here. You can see the past. I'm not a Russian. I'm not a Nazi. I'm not a Blumpy-Bot. I'm not a GOP sycophant.
But can you see how calling somebody all of those names everyday will push someone to lean that way over time?
I'll be the first to admit that I lean a lot further Right than I'm comfortable with. It wasn't always that way.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
“{Some, but not all,} Human beings are unable to be honest with themselves about themselves. They cannot talk about themselves without embellishing. This script portrays such human beings — the kind who cannot survive without lies to make them feel they are better people than they really are . . . You say that you can’t understand this script at all, but that is because the human heart itself is impossible to understand. If you focus on the impossibility of truly understanding human psychology and read the script one more time, I think you will grasp the point of it.” –
https://goo.gl/5sMFWd
A longer description of the movie:
Shortly before filming was to begin on "Rashomon," Akira Kurosawa's three assistant directors came to see him. They were unhappy. They didn't understand the story. "If you read it diligently," he told them, "you should be able to understand it, because it was written with the intention of being comprehensible." They would not leave: "We believe we have read it carefully, and we still don't understand it at all."
Recalling this day in Something Like an Autobiography, Kurosawa explains the movie to them. Two of the assistants are satisfied with his explanation, but the third leaves looking puzzled. What he doesn't understand is that while there is an explanation of the film's four eyewitness accounts of a murder, there is not a solution.
Kurosawa is correct that the screenplay is comprehensible as exactly what it is: Four testimonies that do not match. It is human nature to listen to witnesses and decide who is telling the truth, but the first words of the screenplay, spoken by the woodcutter, are "I just don't understand." His problem is that he has heard the same events described by all three participants in three different ways--and all three claim to be the killer. {All of them want to take credit for killing the bad guy, but somebody is lying. And the movie, just like life in America, never tells you who.}
www.rogerebert.com/reviews/great-movie-rashomon-1950
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
The problem is collective narcissism, which is a thing. Blumpybots don't think for themselves and never have. Like Blumpy, they think of politics as a competition. If they win, they win. Yay, team!
They're oblivious to what they've won, or how it affects them. When it goes to shit, it's the other team's fault. Narcissists don't have the ability to take personal responsibility or admit when they're wrong.
All you have to do is listen to reichwing radio, or a Faux talking head and it's as clear as day.
Totally - it's just a competition and Trump is the coach. Trump rallies are pep rallies, "feel good" even if it's feeling good about hating others. Liberal rallies are more rally, here's what we need to do, and sure, definitely some anger about where we are now.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/23/conservative-alexandria-ocasio-corte
z-rally/
07/23/2018
On Saturday evening, Democratic congressional candidate Cori Bush held a rally in celebration of her birthday. Bush, who is running in the Aug. 7 primary against seven-term incumbent William “Lacy” Clay Jr. in Missouri’s First Congressional District (St. Louis), brought in some star power for the event: Democratic socialist and Bronx native Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Over the years, I have attended my share of political events: tea party protests, a Rick Perry speech on tax cuts, a Ted Cruz rally, and even a speech given by President Donald Trump earlier this year. But nothing prepared me for the stark difference in tone.
Bush’s rally packed a few hundred friends and activists into a bar called the Ready Room in St. Louis, and almost from the moment I walked through the door, I was surrounded by a group of women who were discussing over drinks the reasons they had gotten involved in politics — the two things they all had in common were anger and fear. One even said, “I just couldn’t stand being angry and afraid all the time.”
As the rally kicked off, a series of invited guests took the stage, each sharing the reasons that they supported Bush. Several mentioned the Ferguson protests — which began after police officer Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown on Aug. 9, 2014 — and recalled being tear-gassed and arrested alongside Bush.
Others invoked the “Israeli occupation of Palestine” while still others told stories of “woke” grandchildren who asked over pancakes whether ICE was going to come and arrest them.
One even praised the strength and dedication of convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur — while Ocasio-Cortez (who was waiting in the wings) and Bush nodded along.
But then Ocasio-Cortez spoke, followed by Bush, and I saw something truly terrifying. I saw just how easy it would be, were I less involved and less certain of our nation’s founding and its history, to fall for the populist lines they were shouting from that stage.
I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.
I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right.
Above all, I saw how easy it would be to accept the notion that it was the government’s job to make sure that those things were provided.
I watched as both Ocasio-Cortez and Bush deftly chopped America up into demographics, pointed out how those demographics had been victimized under the current system, and then promised to be the voice for those demographics. The movement, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, “knows no zip code. It knows no state. It knows no race. It knows no gender. It knows no documented status.”
Bush, after saying her piece, noted that she had been careful to allow speakers from across all demographics to make it clear that she was not running to represent just one particular group, but all.
I left the rally with a photo — in part to remind myself of that time I crashed a rally headlined by a socialist, but also in part to remind myself that there,
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Quote:Democrats and Republican voters want the same government benefits, with a huge exception: Republicans do NOT want to pay for benefits that go to anybody but themselves. That would be why the GOP always talks of "reforming" Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare, etc. The GOP wants to cut the costs and Republican voters go along with it because some benefits go to people they intensely and instinctively dislike.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
But then Ocasio-Cortez spoke, followed by Bush, and I saw something truly terrifying. I saw just how easy it would be, were I less involved and less certain of our nation’s founding and its history, to fall for the populist lines they were shouting from that stage.
I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.
I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right.
Above all, I saw how easy it would be to accept the notion that it was the government’s job to make sure that those things were provided.
I watched as both Ocasio-Cortez and Bush deftly chopped America up into demographics, pointed out how those demographics had been victimized under the current system, and then promised to be the voice for those demographics. The movement, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, “knows no zip code. It knows no state. It knows no race. It knows no gender. It knows no documented status.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Pity (or government aid) would be no more if we did not MAKE men poor.
Ironical - who'd want those things for themselves or their families??
What Americans need, more than anything, are meaningful jobs at living wages. Not a government teat to latch onto, which disempowers people in their own lives.
Now, there are some areas where government rightfully should step in, such as managing the "commons" and building infrastructure, issuing currency and defending the borders, managing trade and breaking monopolies.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Signym, don't you remember the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo space program? It created millions of good paying jobs. And then Nixon killed it. Don't you remember the Interstate Highway Program? Or TVA? The Superconducting Super Collider? I remember when that was idiotically killed by the GOP and then all scientists, engineers and construction workers were fired.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Pity (or government aid) would be no more if we did not MAKE men poor.
Ironical - who'd want those things for themselves or their families??
What Americans need, more than anything, are meaningful jobs at living wages. Not a government teat to latch onto, which disempowers people in their own lives.
Now, there are some areas where government rightfully should step in, such as managing the "commons" and building infrastructure, issuing currency and defending the borders, managing trade and breaking monopolies.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Once you go to the moon, or build the highway, or electrify the Tennessee Valley, the Federal government could keep going farther. It does NOT have to stop. It could invent bigger goals that create more jobs that pay well. But the Federal government did not. I blame the GOP. The GOP denies it. Ha! Liars!
Some of those old federal programs are still limping along. Nasa still exists. So does the TVA. But the old programs have shrunk to a skeleton of what they once were and the program managers fired the excess employees. It did not have to be that way, but it happened because the GOP wanted it.
Now jobs are created by the top 1 percenters and they are motivated by profit for themselves, not jobs for the other 99 percent. That is why America is the way it is today. Don't try to claim it did not happen. Don't try to claim that the GOP wasn't the motivating force. I watched this happen over the last 50 years. I was there.
The government turned control over to the unelected, uncaring 1 percenters who let the government look after the other 99 percent of Americans while the 1 percent look after only themselves.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:HA HA!
Signym, don't you remember the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo space program? It created millions of good paying jobs. And then Nixon killed it. Don't you remember the Interstate Highway Program? Or TVA? The Superconducting Super Collider? I remember when that was idiotically killed by the GOP and then all scientists, engineers and construction workers were fired.
Once you go to the moon, or build the highway, or electrify the Tennessee Valley, the Federal government could keep going farther. It does NOT have to stop. It could invent bigger goals that create more jobs that pay well. But the Federal government did not. I blame the GOP. The GOP denies it. Ha! Liars!
Well, it's a good thing that I'm not a partisan Republican, and have NO INTEREST in defending the GOP!!
Lookit, SECOND, I worked for a government agency that (I believe) had a legitimate mission to defend public health. Our agency - unlike other government agencies - successfully withstood wave after wave of pushes for "privatization", so I know all about the GOP and it's interests.
Quote:Are you being ironical here? The top 1% have NO interest in "creating jobs" ... if anything, THEIR main interest is in GETTING RID of jobs.
Now jobs are created by the top 1 percenters and they are motivated by profit for themselves, not jobs for the other 99 percent.
Quote:HAHAHA!!! AS IF THE GOP WAS THE PARTY THAT SHIPPED JOBS OVERSEAS!
That is why America is the way it is today. Don't try to claim it did not happen. Don't try to claim that the GOP wasn't the motivating force. I watched this happen over the last 50 years. I was there.
SECOND, you have a SERIOUSLY warped view of history, especially American economic history. Democrats have had just as much of a hand in destroying jobs in America as the GOP. Once the "globalization/ financialist" sector bought the Democratic party (somewhere before Bill Clinton) Democrats stopped representing working Americans. That's why they turned to "identity politics": because they have nothing left to peddle.
I am in no way saying that Republicans are better.
Quote:consisting of both Republicans AND Democrats
The government
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turned control over to the unelected, uncaring 1 percenters who let the government look after the other 99 percent of Americans while the 1 percent look after only themselves.
The entire government is fucked up by money. Name me ONE CASE since roughly 1990 when a Democratic administration actually did anything good for American jobs. I'll bet you that you can't
I'm going to add, btw, that you constantly mistake my CRITICISM OF YOU as a defense of Republicans in general and Trump in particular. I think I've already made VERY CLEAR what I think our national goals should be, and just as clearly neither the GOP nor Democrats are heading in the direction I think we should be heading, and in fact I think the political establishments of both parties are driving this nation into the ground.
Trump has done three or four ESSENTIAL things towards restoring our economy, such as maintaining sovereignty over our trade decisions. That means that these decisions will be made in UNITED STATES venues, not in Singapore or Zurich. That means that we ... you, me, SIX, WISHY, KIKI, and THUGR ... still have (at least in theory) political control over our nation's direction. Which is far better than having no control at all. But that doesn't mean that I agree with every single decision that he has made, and in some cases I disagree with him intensely.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Quote:Signym, every time you write about reality, you write bullshit. You cannot truthfully write “Well, it's a good thing that I'm not a partisan Republican, and have NO INTEREST in defending the GOP!!" You are obviously pretending that Democrats are no better than Republicans. The facts say you lied.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you have a SERIOUSLY warped view of history, especially American economic history. Democrats have had just as much of a hand in destroying jobs in America as the GOP. . . .
Name me ONE CASE since roughly 1990 when a Democratic administration actually did anything good for American jobs. I'll bet you that you can't.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
I see an obvious trend where Democratic Presidents create more jobs than Republicans, with the exception of Reagan.
Which President Created the Most Jobs?
12 Presidents' Jobs Creation by Number and Percent
www.thebalance.com/job-creation-by-president-by-number-and-percent-386
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Bill Clinton (1993-2001) added 21.5 million jobs, a 19.6 percent increase.
Barack Obama (2009-2017) created 17.267 million jobs by the end of December 2016, a 12.8 percent increase.
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) added 15.9 million jobs during his eight-year term, a 17.6 percent increase.
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) added 11.9 million jobs to the 57.36 million employed in December 1963. That's a 20.7 percent increase.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) added 10.3 million jobs, a 32.7 percent increase over the 31.5 million workers since 1939.
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) added 10.5 million jobs, a 13 percent increase.
George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) added 2.6 million jobs.
George W. Bush (2001-2009) created 2.1 million jobs during his eight-year term.
The difference between GOP Presidents and Democrats? It can be measured in millions of jobs.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, every time you write about reality, you write bullshit. You cannot truthfully write “Well, it's a good thing that I'm not a partisan Republican, and have NO INTEREST in defending the GOP!!" You are obviously pretending that Democrats are no better than Republicans. The facts say you lied.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you have a SERIOUSLY warped view of history, especially American economic history. Democrats have had just as much of a hand in destroying jobs in America as the GOP. . . .
Name me ONE CASE since roughly 1990 when a Democratic administration actually did anything good for American jobs. I'll bet you that you can't.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
I see an obvious trend where Democratic Presidents create more jobs than Republicans, with the exception of Reagan.
Which President Created the Most Jobs?
12 Presidents' Jobs Creation by Number and Percent
www.thebalance.com/job-creation-by-president-by-number-and-percent-386
3218
Bill Clinton (1993-2001) added 21.5 million jobs, a 19.6 percent increase.
Barack Obama (2009-2017) created 17.267 million jobs by the end of December 2016, a 12.8 percent increase.
Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) added 15.9 million jobs during his eight-year term, a 17.6 percent increase.
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) added 11.9 million jobs to the 57.36 million employed in December 1963. That's a 20.7 percent increase.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) added 10.3 million jobs, a 32.7 percent increase over the 31.5 million workers since 1939.
Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) added 10.5 million jobs, a 13 percent increase.
George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) added 2.6 million jobs.
George W. Bush (2001-2009) created 2.1 million jobs during his eight-year term.
The difference between GOP Presidents and Democrats? It can be measured in millions of jobs.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Here's the problem when you take a statistic and only look at that single stat and not the bigger picture at the time, or in the future for that matter.
Numbers 1 and 2 on that list are artificially inflated.
Clinton's numbers were so great because of opening the floodgates to China, as well as the dot com boom. Obama's numbers were so great because we gained millions of low paying jobs that do not pay livable wages for most Americans. More people than ever today have to work multiple jobs, not only because of how low the pay is, but because the ACA laws dictate that 30 hours + is full time, so most employers will hire more people at shit wages rather than take on full time employees and pay for their health insurance.
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I think this tells a more complete story. Shadowstats continues calculating unemployment using the same procedure that was used before 1994, when long-term discouraged workers were redefined out of existence.
Unemployment fell during the tech boom (Clinton). Rose during the tech bust in 2001. Fell during most of GWB's Presidency during the real estate bubble, and rose dramatically during the financial crash of 2008. (So if you were to look at GWB's tenure, he wound up more-or-less where he started ... but you would have missed the "boom" years in-between.) If you are to believe Shadowstats, REAL unemployment did not come down significantly during Obama's reign either, altho the "official" figures are designed to tell a happier story.
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
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WEALTH GAP
OR ...
It looks like the GINI Index (measure of inequality) popped up right during Bill Clinton's first year as President. Except for that, it's impossible to tell Republicans from Democrats in this chart.
PERCENT OF EMPLOYEES IN MANUFACTURING
(You'll have to click on the link) Again, impossible to tell when a Democrat was in office versus Republican
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/USAPEFANA
TOTAL PUBLIC DEBT AS A PERCENTAGE OF GDP
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/gfdegdq188S
MONEY VELOCITY
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2V
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I see that Signym and 6ixStringJack are doing what they can to obscure and confuse that the economic performance of the Democratic Party is very different from the GOP. I know why you are doing that. You want to reject both and seek a third way.
As reminder to all American citizens, voters, Russian trolls Signym and 1kiki who don’t want to declare themselves Republicans ---- your political choices are Democrat or Republican. Do you say that is not enough choice? What are your other choices? That is easy to know once you answer this question:
How many elected third party politicians are in America?
You could easily memorize the name of every one of them. (Note the word “elected”. Lost the election? Then don’t bother remembering that politician. Anybody think Jill Stein will ever be elected to anything bigger than Lexington Town Meeting Representative? Remember Ralph Nader for President 2000? Forget him, too, but remember Nader elected George W Bush because of the recount in Florida.)
Here is your list to memorize:
1) Bernie Sanders, Vermont’s Senator
2) Angus King, Maine’s Senator
3) Gregorio Sablan, Delegate to the House of Representatives from Northern Mariana Islands
4) Bill Walker, Alaska Governor, but who is also endorsed by the Democrats
5) a couple of dozen in the state legislatures (don’t bother remembering these guys. They have no more power than Lexington Town Meeting Representative)
And that is it.
Your choices are Democrat or Republican, or a few former D’s and R’s that quit to become “independent” or created their own bad joke party such as Kent Ackley of "Common Sense" Independent.
I didn’t design the system. That is how it works with the rules established by the Founding Fathers. They could have designed a Parliament if they were far-sighted and wise. They had the British example, but their hatred of King George III clouded their judgment. Now we are stuck with either D or R and no third nor fourth way, at least until a new Constitution is written.
The U.S. Constitution is the oldest and creakiest in the world. Norway’s Constitution, a much younger #2, is a Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy. #3 is another Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy. #2 and #3 have been extensively revised, unlike #1.
www.oldest.org/politics/constitutions/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_officeholders_in_the_United_
States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_members_of_the_United_States
_House_of_Representatives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_members_of_state_legislature
s_of_the_United_States
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It is confusing. Purposefully so. I don't judge you for being confused, Second.
I think it's funny now that you're talking like the 3rd party is the way to go, something that I've always said, when usually you've got your head so far up the Democrat's asses that their anal cavities are your echo chamber.
Why the sudden change of heart?
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Quote:I have not had a change of heart. Since we Americans are trapped inside a two party system by the Founding Fathers and their creaky old Constitution (it's almost as old as the English system of miles, acres, pounds, gallons. The USA is the only country still using that crappy measurement system. I was an engineer and that is why I want to think metric) I will stay with the Democratic Party.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is confusing. Purposefully so. I don't judge you for being confused, Second.
I think it's funny now that you're talking like the 3rd party is the way to go, something that I've always said, when usually you've got your head so far up the Democrat's asses that their anal cavities are your echo chamber.
Why the sudden change of heart?
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What I want the Democrats to do is punch in the face the kind of people who regularly vote Republican. The Democratic Party, run by wimps, refuses to do it! I find that disappointing. From Texas I know Trump voters as liars, numbskulls, and racists, except for the rich Republicans voters. I need to add the liars claim they are truthful, the numbskulls claim they have commonsense, and the racists claim they aren't, but in private they are.
Ads from the Georgia gubernatorial nominees perfectly illustrate the difference between the political parties:
Democrat Abrams’s ad is called “Trusted” while Republican Kemp’s is called “Offends,” and they only diverge further from there. Abrams talks about issues, and she talks optimistically about making people’s lives better in a concrete way. Kemp, typically for a 2018 Republican, talks exclusively about diffuse threats to the white Christian cultural order.
Abrams says she has “a boundless belief in Georgia’s future,” and talks about Medicaid expansion, middle-class taxes, and mass transit.
Kemp describes himself as “a politically incorrect conservative” and literally does not mention any policy issues. Instead, he says that he says “Merry Christmas” and “God bless you,” stands for the national anthem, and supports our troops, and that if that offends you, then you shouldn’t vote for him.
Obviously there are literally no people in the United States of America who are offended by people who say “Merry Christmas” in December, but over the past 15 years, the conservative establishment in America has spun up this weird alternate reality in which totally normal, inoffensive behavior is under siege in American life and can only be protected by electing Republican politicians.
More at www.vox.com/2018/7/25/17611914/stacey-abrams-brian-kemp-ads
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The White House responded with a form of information warfare straight out of the Kremlin playbook that it has used time and again :
A scandal erupts over something Trump or another White House official says or does. (In this case, audio of Trump and Cohen discussing how to buy the rights to a woman’s allegation that she had an affair with Trump.)
Media frenzy ensues.
The White House issues an outrageous-but-plausible-if-you-want-it-to-be denial about some detail of the story. (In this case, the White House released a transcript of the call, which claims Trump said “don’t” before “pay with cash.” The “don’t” is not audible on the tape.)
Journalistic rules about reporting both sides of the story mean the media spreads the White House’s fake version of events, whether the “don’t” is audible or not.
The story becomes muddied. Some attention is diverted to whether or not the White House has lied, rather than the scandal itself.
This strategy of denying otherwise clear evidence exploits a flaw in the Western media’s drive for objectivity, and takes the edge off scandals. By Quartz’s count, this was the fourth time in just the last two weeks that the administration has employed such a tactic straight out of the Kremlin playbook.
More at https://qz.com/1336230
Once again, ‘fake news’ decried by Trump turns out to be true
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mp-turns-out-to-be-true/ar-BBL4lPH?ocid=spartandhp
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Quote:Did you manage to type that with a straight face?
I see that Signym and 6ixStringJack are doing what they can to obscure and confuse that the economic performance of the Democratic Party is very different from the GOP. - SECOND
The article that you linked had a fatal flaw ... it merely looked at the jobs at the beginning of a tenure versus the jobs at the end, without reference to what part of a "business cycle" these endpoints were at. Even that article ... the one that YOU linked ... qualified their data about that. It said, in part
Quote:I dispute that Presidents can always create recessions that occur within their terms of office. It's the Fed that has the power to blow and pop bubbles, not the White House.
A president's record at job creation depends somewhat on the business cycle. For example, those who inherited a recession, like Clinton, Obama, Reagan, Carter and LBJ, did better at job creation. They started with a low base, and so had nowhere to go but up. Those that created recessions, like both Bushes, Nixon, and Eisenhower, did the worst.
So how about addressing the actual charts and data that I brought to the board? Yanno, the five or so charts in which it is impossible to tell which party was in power at any particular point in time? Because it doesn't matter to me how much the Dems CLAIM to be for the "average working American" having "kitchen table" discussions, RESULTS COUNT. And so far, I don't see anything for them - or you- to crow about.
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Quote:I dispute that Presidents can always create recessions that occur within their terms of office. It's the Fed that has the power to blow and pop bubbles, not the White House.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Did you manage to type that with a straight face?
I see that Signym and 6ixStringJack are doing what they can to obscure and confuse that the economic performance of the Democratic Party is very different from the GOP. - SECOND
The article that you linked had a fatal flaw ... it merely looked at the jobs at the beginning of a tenure versus the jobs at the end, without reference to what part of a "business cycle" these endpoints were at. Even that article ... the one that YOU linked ... qualified their data about that. It said, in partQuote:Those that created recessions, like both Bushes, Nixon, and Eisenhower, did the worst.
A president's record at job creation depends somewhat on the business cycle. For example, those who inherited a recession, like Clinton, Obama, Reagan, Carter and LBJ, did better at job creation. They started with a low base, and so had nowhere to go but up.
So how about addressing the actual charts and data that I brought to the board? Yanno, the five or so charts in which it is impossible to tell which party was in power at any particular point in time? Because it doesn't matter to me how much the Dems CLAIM to be for the "average working American" having "kitchen table" discussions, RESULTS COUNT. And so far, I don't see anything for them - or you- to crow about.
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Obviously, Signym, you are going to be stubborn. You are going to want more data before deciding if there really is a difference between a D President and a R President. There will never be enough data to force you to chose one side or the other because you want a third way, one that does not exist because the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution with no place for a third way. They didn't know it immediately, but by 1800 it was obvious they had created the two party system. Not three. Not four. Two.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States
Just looking only at the economic data, neither an R or D President will ever pop out as one being vastly better than the other because the people who really run America the way they want it to be run, the 1 Percenters, don't change when the White House changes between parties. There is not an R team of 1 Percenters and a D team of 1 Percenters and one team leaves the field and the other team takes control when the White House changes from R to D. Everything will stay the same, economically, if the 1 Percenters stay the same people and if the Federal Government does not go to war against the 1 Percenters. War has happened! The change over from an R President to a D President in 1933 caused a War between the Feds and malefactors of great wealth. But it took a World War to make the biggest difference in America's distribution of wealth.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/campaign-address/
Let's pick one thing as an example of how D Presidents and R Presidents are different in how they treat the 1 Percenters. R Presidents deny that there is a greenhouse gas effect, that carbon dioxide and methane cause global warming, and that 1 Percenters who are coal mine owners need to sell less coal. D Presidents are the opposite.
Another example: R Presidents always want lower taxes on the wealthy 1 Percenters. A D President would never have signed Trump's tax bill.
Another example: R Presidents always want fewer regulations on Wall Street 1 P
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European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker walked away from his meeting with President Donald Trump on Wednesday with a freshly won trade detente, and he may have had flash cards to thank.
The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Juncker came to the meeting in Washington well-prepared, with “more than a dozen colorful cue cards with simplified explainers,” such as numbers and factoids about complex topics such as automotive trade. Each easy-to-read card had, at most, three figures, a senior European Union official told the Journal.
“We knew this wasn’t an academic seminar. It had to be very simple.”
A senior EU official, on Juncker’s trade strategy
By the end of their three-hour meeting, Juncker and Trump had agreed not to impose any further tariffs and to work toward “zero tariffs.”
Juncker said later that he wanted to persuade Trump that a tit-for-tat trade war was not a smart move and would only end up hurting both sides.
But, “If you want to be stupid,” he told Trump, according to the Journal. “I can be stupid, as well.”
Turns out, Juncker can be pretty smart too. He was apparently following the example of top White House officials, who have learned to deliver Trump’s daily intelligence briefing in short bullet-points loaded with maps, charts and “killer graphics,” according to a Washington Post report last year.
More at www.marketwatch.com/story/junckers-secret-weapon-in-trade-talks-with-t
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Hedges opines that American society’s lack of upward mobility — its class inelasticity — has made the outward appearance of wealth matter disproportionately more than ever. We desire $700 shoes, gilded bling and other trappings of the “haves,” because we want to disguise the fact that we are the have-nots.
Needless to say, Donald Trump appears in the film, if only in passing, about a half-hour in, when the businessman turned president’s role as an avatar of the American Dream — a self-made mogul, or so he would have us believe — is held up as an explanation of his political ascendancy. We voted for him, in other words, because we want to be him, or at least to believe the version of him we saw on “The Apprentice.”
Interviews with the subjects, now 40-ish, of “Fast Forward,” paired with shots from the book of their former, less introspective adolescent selves, also add useful substance and poignant wisdom. Florian Homm, the wealthy German former hedge fund manager who went on the lam in 2007 after being charged with investment fraud by the U.S. government, appears in interviews, too. Homm comes across as unchastened, but at least more cautious about the empty promises of prosperity. “If you think that money will buy you anything and everything,” he says, “you’ve never, ever had money.”
Greenfield, for the most part, wisely leaves the preaching to others. If “Generation Wealth” has a message that empty acquisitiveness is bad, it delivers it, like the rest of her work, by showing, not telling.
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deep-look-at-the-shallowness-of-greed/2018/07/23/c7f28cc2-8b85-11e8-85ae-511bc1146b0b_story.html
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Reagan’s Son: Trump’s Base Would Pick Putin Over Any Democrat As U.S. President
The son of former President Ronald Reagan believes Donald Trump’s political base is so consumed by hatred for the Democrats that they would vote for Vladimir Putin to be America’s president instead of virtually any member of that party.
“They really aren’t in touch with reality. The most important thing to them [is that Trump] seems to hate the same people that they hate,” Ron Reagan told Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s “Hardball” on Thursday. “That’s the real Trump derangement syndrome.”
On the other hand, they like the people Trump likes, Reagan said. Russian President Putin’s popularity is rising, he noted.
“If it was left just up to Trump’s base, they would elect Vladimir Putin as president of the United States over virtually anybody with a D after their name,” he added. “If Trump seems to love Putin, they’ll love Putin, too.”
More at www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-base-vote-putin-over-democrat-ron-r
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Quote:Pure speculation and unfounded opinion. Any time you talk about "belief", you're promoting a religion. So thanks for that religious interlude, SECOND. How about moving on to discussing REAL WORLD events now???
The son of former President Ronald Reagan believes ...
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Quote:The perpetually-drunk Juncker probably NEEDED flashcards!
The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Juncker came to the meeting in Washington well-prepared, with “more than a dozen colorful cue cards with simplified explainers,” such as numbers and factoids about complex topics such as automotive trade. Each easy-to-read card had, at most, three figures, a senior European Union official told the Journal.
There was a video from a few years ago, which is no longer available, showing Juncker passing a review line and leaning heavily on the male representatives while fondling their neckties. Hilarious!
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Quote:Signym, I should have testified that Texas Republicans in Harris County would vote for Putin rather than Hillary. Did you know Hillary killed four Americans at Benghazi with her bare hands and bathed in their blood? Ask any Texas Republican. They know for a fact she walked over their corpses. Even Putin as US President would be better than her, despite him being ineligible because he is not a native born American. Obama got elected and you know he was born in Kenya and was less eligible to be President than Putin. Ask a Texas Republican and they will tell you that rock-solid and true fact.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Pure speculation and unfounded opinion. Any time you talk about "belief", you're promoting a religion. So thanks for that religious interlude, SECOND.
The son of former President Ronald Reagan believes ...
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Quote:The flash cards were for Trump. Don't you remember that he reversed himself on tariffs for the EU? Happened this week, Signym. Trump was turned 180 degrees by Juncker.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The perpetually-drunk Juncker probably NEEDED flashcards!
The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Juncker came to the meeting in Washington well-prepared, with “more than a dozen colorful cue cards with simplified explainers,” such as numbers and factoids about complex topics such as automotive trade. Each easy-to-read card had, at most, three figures, a senior European Union official told the Journal.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-jean-claude-juncker-won-ove
r-donald-trump-a-1220466.html
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