This is Why Trump is a SCUMBAG!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I know that business is predatory, and YOU know that business is predatory, but our compatriots here on this board.... do THEY know how much you despise them for not standing up for their own interests?
Signym, you cannot be living in America and not know that American business is predatory.- SECOND
Even when you (verbally) slap them in the face with that fact, all they do is roll over on their backs and widdle on their bellies.Quote:I have copied that into my signature as a reminder to everyone what you think of them, and America.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Too funny. You have run out of "believers" on this board SIGGY, besides KIKI and probably 6. Pretending otherwise just makes for a good laugh.
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Quote:I remember President Jimmy Carter caught hell from the Republicans when he quoted from Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism. The Republicans realized that Carter was calling them nuts. It’s 40 years later and Republicans are no-longer drifting in that direction. They are shipwrecked on the shores of Narcissism.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/9/1779169/-Yes-Trump-is-a-narcis
sist-But-it-s-literally-millions-of-times-worse-than-that?detail=emaildksp
Yes, the hallmarks of narcissism are painfully obvious in the president of the United States. The endless projection. The delusion of grandeur masking a paper-thin skin that punctures under the most benign criticisms. The nonstop gaslighting. But you know who else every single one of these attributes describes?
His base.
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/books/review/Siegel-t.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think you guys and gals need to decide if Trump is an evil mastermind, or if he is an idiot.
You keep going back and forth on the issue whenever the wind blows, and I feel safe speaking for everyone that's not in your echo chamber when I say that I'm confused about where exactly it is you're coming from.
You don't give a sh*t, remember?
I don't give a shit what the news says. I do give a shit what your opinion is.
Aren't you special?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I know that business is predatory, and YOU know that business is predatory, but our compatriots here on this board.... do THEY know how much you despise them for not standing up for their own interests?
Signym, you cannot be living in America and not know that American business is predatory.- SECOND
Even when you (verbally) slap them in the face with that fact, all they do is roll over on their backs and widdle on their bellies.Quote:I have copied that into my signature as a reminder to everyone what you think of them, and America.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Too funny. You have run out of "believers" on this board SIGGY, besides KIKI and probably 6. Pretending otherwise just makes for a good laugh.
Seconded G. Right on the money.
T
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I remember President Jimmy Carter caught hell from the Republicans when he quoted from Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism. The Republicans realized that Carter was calling them nuts. It’s 40 years later and Republicans are no-longer drifting in that direction. They are shipwrecked on the shores of Narcissism.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/9/1779169/-Yes-Trump-is-a-narcis
sist-But-it-s-literally-millions-of-times-worse-than-that?detail=emaildksp
Yes, the hallmarks of narcissism are painfully obvious in the president of the United States. The endless projection. The delusion of grandeur masking a paper-thin skin that punctures under the most benign criticisms. The nonstop gaslighting. But you know who else every single one of these attributes describes?
His base.
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/books/review/Siegel-t.html
For decades democrats have been saying that republican voters dislike and even hate educated people. That this is because they expose their street corner logic based on emotions and void of a understanding of the facts, to be stupid.
Another thing the democrats believed was that the republican party was saturated with racists. Something the republicans dismissed as nothing more than hateful propaganda by the left.
Well folks, the democrats were and are right. Vote for democrats and make America great again.
T
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MAGA 2020
Deal w/ it.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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He'll be out of office by then.
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I remember President Jimmy Carter caught hell from the Republicans when he quoted from Christopher Lasch’s The Culture of Narcissism. The Republicans realized that Carter was calling them nuts. It’s 40 years later and Republicans are no-longer drifting in that direction. They are shipwrecked on the shores of Narcissism.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/9/1779169/-Yes-Trump-is-a-narcis
sist-But-it-s-literally-millions-of-times-worse-than-that?detail=emaildksp
Yes, the hallmarks of narcissism are painfully obvious in the president of the United States. The endless projection. The delusion of grandeur masking a paper-thin skin that punctures under the most benign criticisms. The nonstop gaslighting. But you know who else every single one of these attributes describes?
His base.
www.nytimes.com/2010/02/07/books/review/Siegel-t.html
For decades democrats have been saying that republican voters dislike and even hate educated people. That this is because they expose their street corner logic based on emotions and void of a understanding of the facts, to be stupid.
Another thing the democrats believed was that the republican party was saturated with racists. Something the republicans dismissed as nothing more than hateful propaganda by the left.
Well folks, the democrats were and are right. Vote for democrats and make America great again.
T
How will Trump voters react on Monday morning to Trump's tweet on Sunday night? Most will never know, but this will be a very straight forward test of those voters. I believe their reaction will be the same as the rest of their lives -- 1) passive acceptance and 2) no understanding. Neither way can work to get them ahead in America. Not getting ahead is why they voted for Trump.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!
10:24 PM - Jul 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1021234525626609666
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
MAGA 2020
Deal w/ it.
"MAGA" has to be one of the worst slogans ever for a rallying cry. Just the simple sound of it is hell, unless they were pilfering SEGA's advertising "SEGA!" It doesn't allude to anything positve, FREEDOM, closer to "maggots." And it assumes we suck right now. It's hard to imagine coming up with a worse slogan.
How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
MAGA 2020
Deal w/ it.
"MAGA" has to be one of the worst slogans ever for a rallying cry. Just the simple sound of it is hell, unless they were pilfering SEGA's advertising "SEGA!" It doesn't allude to anything positve, FREEDOM, closer to "maggots." And it assumes we suck right now. It's hard to imagine coming up with a worse slogan.
How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!
Gingrich would lose in a landslide against anybody that the Democrats threw against him. Might as well have Rudy Giuliani run for president. Maybe Roger Stone.
Nah. Assuming he's still healthy, they're going to go with Trump again. That's not even up for debate. No matter how bad he might get, the vocal minority of the Leftists, spearheaded by the MSM and the Hollywood Elite are so out of touch with the rest of the country and that gives Trump all the ammo he needs to get people fired up.
My prediction is things can keep going just as non-good as they've been going the last two years and he's going to win the electoral college in another landslide if the Democrats don't do a hard 180. There seems to be zero indication that this will happen.
The only way that Trump doesn't get re-elected in 2020 is if a nuclear war breaks out, or if the American economy goes into a complete free fall.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Vice President Mike Pence is more likely. He is both mentally stable (can't say that about Gingrich or Trump) and is not a crook (can't say that about Gingrich or Trump, either) and Pence doesn't have Trump's or Gingrich's history of betraying their many wives in many messy divorces and adulterous affairs. But on the other hand, Pence isn't a tub of lard (see Trump and Gingrich for fat heads and fat asses) which might be a disadvantage in appealing to the obese Trump voters.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Vice President Mike Pence is more likely. He is both mentally stable (can't say that about Gingrich or Trump) and is not a crook (can't say that about Gingrich or Trump, either) and Pence doesn't have Trump's or Gingrich's history of betraying their many wives in many messy divorces and adulterous affairs. But on the other hand, Pence isn't a tub of lard (see Trump and Gingrich for fat heads and fat asses) which might be a disadvantage in appealing to the obese Trump voters.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
How do you know the GOP won't be sick of him and find someone else? Gingrich 2020!
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Huh... never heard that insult before. That's funny, because I thought I had already heard them all.
Probably going to need to see some legitimate citations of studies linking obesity to a proclivity to voting for orange trolls wearing toupees.
'Cause I know a LOT of fat Democrats. A lot of them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gingrich would lose in a landslide against anybody that the Democrats threw against him. Might as well have Rudy Giuliani run for president. Maybe Roger Stone.
I was going to say you have no sense of humor, but then you said Roger Stone.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gingrich would lose in a landslide against anybody that the Democrats threw against him. Might as well have Rudy Giuliani run for president. Maybe Roger Stone.
I was going to say you have no sense of humor, but then you said Roger Stone.
lol. Why not. It's all the same.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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While in ICE custody, thousands of migrants reported sexual abuse
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/while-in-ice-custody-thousands-of-mi
grants-reported-sexual-abuse?utm_source=atlantic&utm_term=social
SCUMBAG! Abolish ICE!
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
While in ICE custody, thousands of migrants reported sexual abuse
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/while-in-ice-custody-thousands-of-mi
grants-reported-sexual-abuse?utm_source=atlantic&utm_term=social
SCUMBAG! Abolish ICE!
What does this have to do with Trump? My cousin joined (what would later become) ICE at the beginning of his professional career forty years ago. He was assigned to Campo, CA, and one of the things that gave him an ulcer was knowing how abusive and predatory some of his fellow "officers" were, especially towards pretty young women. Son, this has been going on for - literally- decades. I know it's fashionable to attach every possible problem to the Trump administration, but that's ridiculous.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Is there anything sig won't lie about?
T
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Did you know the US has listening posts spread through remote forests to prevent foot-traffic smuggling and border crossing through wilderness areas? And underwater sonar installations to prevent nighttime small-boat traffic across the Great Lakes and St Lawrence seaway?
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Originally posted by THG:
Is there anything sig won't lie about?
T
A bunch of illegals decide to jump on the #MeToo movement because they know how feeble minded and weak American Millennials are and you and your cohort's suggestion is to just shut down camp and allow anybody to come over illegally without any response at all.
This is just one of the many reasons you can expect to have to deal with Trump until 2020.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I know it's fashionable to attach every possible problem to the Trump administration, but that's ridiculous.
Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?
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Quote:AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.
Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?
The best thing that I expect from Trump is to keep those decisions WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, so that we can collectively make our way forward through what I perceive to be a coming disaster.
Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.
I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Geebers either makes a point of being a dolt and a troll - or he really is them. Either way, he's not going to be educable, or honorable.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Geebers either makes a point of being a dolt and a troll - or he really is them. Either way, he's not going to be educable, or honorable.
Well, maybe NOW is the time for me to re-ask the question that I've asked a couple-dozen times by now, but perhaps rephrased in a way more understandable by CC, THUGR, SECOND, WISHY, REAVERFAN and JO: What are America's biggest problems, and how can we solve them?
I think What are America's interests? was perhaps a bit too abstract.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....
MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
MAGA 2020
Deal w/ it.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Your point of Economic Doom is duly noted.....there, you have now been acknowledged as the Foreseer of bad tidings. You no longer need to point out the
obvious. I knew it, I knew that trump's little statements would come back to bite him in the end.
"I alone can fix it" can not stand.
Economic woes, as I have noticed, are cyclical. It is the way of the beast....
capitalism. I don't think of "solutions" so much, but of applying certain controls
over the economy. Applying and releasing pressure where needed. The sin comes in the form of Greed and avarice. Your "solution" is to sever all global ties and fend for ourselves (if I'm understanding you correctly). To minimize the damage, so to speak, of the coming "disaster." And you feel that Trump is bravely moving
in that direction? Oh, and didn't Obama advocate for infrastructure building? Whatever happened to that? (a rhetorical question, I know Congress did their damndest to put a krimp into Obama's economic growth agenda.)
If that's the case, I don't see it. Logically, if the world economic order is in shambles and about to implode; wouldn't it stand to reason that the "world" would be better off working together to mend the world economy? Well, what I know about economics could fill a thimble, so I'll leave it at that. Just a curious thought
on my part.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.
Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?
The best thing that I expect from Trump is to keep those decisions WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, so that we can collectively make our way forward through what I perceive to be a coming disaster.
Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.
I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....
MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.
SGG
Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Whew! I was wondering how long I had to hold up that THE END IS NEAR!!! sign before someone noticed!
]Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Your point of Economic Doom is duly noted.....there, you have now been acknowledged as the Foreseer of bad tidings. You no longer need to point out the obvious.
Quote:This isn't about Trump. Trump didn't create the problems, and he can't possibly solve them.
I knew it, I knew that trump's little statements would come back to bite him in the end. "I alone can fix it" can not stand.
Quote:SOME of those cycles, however, are 150 years long. Long enough that may be out of the living memory of anyone.
Economic woes, as I have noticed, are cyclical.
Quote:... by the few, who have gained the economic, financial, political, ethical, and philosophical levers of society. Because "Greed is good"
It is the way of the beast.... capitalism. I don't think of "solutions" so much, but of applying certain controls over the economy. Applying and releasing pressure where needed. The sin comes in the form of Greed and avarice...
Quote:Infrastructure is only a part of the solution; it's not the "make-work" program that Obama envisioned.
Your "solution" is to sever all global ties and fend for ourselves (if I'm understanding you correctly). To minimize the damage, so to speak, of the coming "disaster." And you feel that Trump is bravely moving in that direction? Oh, and didn't Obama advocate for infrastructure building? Whatever happened to that? (a rhetorical question, I know Congress did their damndest to put a krimp into Obama's economic growth agenda.)
Quote:At least you're thinking! That's more than can be said for many people here!
If that's the case, I don't see it. Logically, if the world economic order is in shambles and about to implode; wouldn't it stand to reason that the "world" would be better off working together to mend the world economy? Well, what I know about economics could fill a thimble, so I'll leave it at that. Just a curious thought on my part.
I personally think that's one of the critical questions: What is the role of centralization in the coming storm?
When people face a Big Problem, they tend to look for a Big Fix. In this case, a "world-government" to solve world-straddling issues.
But what happens if the Big Fix is part of the Big Problem? There is a kind of One Ring quality to looking for ever-more-centralized solutions to ever-more-centralized causes. Everyone wants to grab it. Are we sure that Sauron has not already grasped the Ring of Power?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.
Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?
Hahahaha - you are so funny! So "there's no hope! Whaaaa! We're doomed!" And yet Trump with the help of his Republican friends found a way to line their pockets with billions of fresh American tax dollars. He did that, did he not?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The best thing that I expect from Trump is to keep those decisions WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, so that we can collectively make our way forward through what I perceive to be a coming disaster.
Uh-huh. You mean you can't help us?? Oh-nos.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.
I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.
I sure hope you will find it in your heart to repeat that when I'm down and need a laugh. I think as SGG alludes to, markets are cyclical, so no genious award for you, sorries.
BTW, I keep seeing you referencing our "economic problems" - what are they exactly? I see nothing but growth and financial wellness, especially if you are wealthy. Employment is shiny - what are our "problems" that you continually whine about?
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I see sig is crying like a baby again G. The sky is falling the sky is falling. It's always good for a laugh.
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Whew! I was wondering how long I had to hold up that THE END IS NEAR!!! sign before someone noticed!
You see, someone did notice you.
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This isn't about Trump. Trump didn't create the problems, and he can't possibly solve them.
I beg to differ. First, I never said he "created" the problems, but he certainly has contributed to them. The Tax Thing for starters. And you're right, "he can't possibly solve them", hence my comment that his statement "can not stand." Again, I'm no expert, but according to those who are, he's applying pressure to the
wrong area. His actions could bring about a recession at a time when the fragile economy needs pinpoint "surgery" and not a sledgehammer.
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SOME of those cycles, however, are 150 years long. Long enough that may be out of the living memory of anyone.
Careful now, we may be on the same chapter, if not the same page. Cycles do come in a variety of colors, shapes and sizes. I'm all for Reform and Change, but at what cost? And to whom? The "little guy" can ill afford to play economic poker.
Trump's moves have benefitted large corps and CEOs, but for us little guys - the sky is falling seems appropriate.
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by the few, who have gained the economic, financial, political, ethical, and philosophical levers of society. Because "Greed is good"
Ah so, "we" have been paying attention
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Infrastructure is only a part of the solution; it's not the "make-work" program that Obama envisioned.
I know, infrastructure alone is not the answer. By the way, what infrastructure are you talking about? I always thought that it meant bridges, roads, schools, airports and public transport. Yes, sometimes I've been accused of thinking and sprout forth ideas that go somewhat against the grain.
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.
SGG
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"so no genious award for you"
precious irony
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"so no genious award for you"
precious irony
Or scathing humor? Something Russians seem utterly immune to.
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Quote:You gotta remember. English isn't Kiki's native language. Humor is often lost in translation.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"so no genious award for you"
precious irony
Or scathing humor? Something Russians seem utterly immune to.
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Oh goodie... the three trolls. I'll bet you that at least one is a sockpuppet of another.
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Quote:Yes, thank god! My arms were getting tired!
Whew! I was wondering how long I had to hold up that THE END IS NEAR!!! sign before someone noticed! - SIGNY
You see, someone did notice you.- SHINY
Quote:What is wrong with the economy is so entirely fucked that "pinpoint" surgery can't possibly work. It would be like trying to cure a person with giant metastatic tumors with microsurgery. I think that the main difference between you and me is that you see Trump as the epitome of greed and corruption, whereas I think there is a whole level of corruption so far above and beyond Trump that it's stratospheric, but has made the entire SYSTEM corrupt worldwide. That some of the most basic assumptions (like fiat currency, debt, centralization/ monopolism, and the corporate business model) are so distorted that anything that grows out of them can't possibly grow straight, irrespective of the people involved.
This isn't about Trump. Trump didn't create the problems, and he can't possibly solve them.- SIGNY
I beg to differ. First, I never said he "created" the problems, but he certainly has contributed to them. The Tax Thing for starters. And you're right, "he can't possibly solve them", hence my comment that his statement "can not stand." Again, I'm no expert, but according to those who are, he's applying pressure to the wrong area. His actions could bring about a recession at a time when the fragile economy needs pinpoint "surgery" and not a sledgehammer.- SHINY
Quote:It's possible that the "size" and "shape" of THIS particular cycle is "The death of a world currency", like when the world currency shifted from the pound to the dollar.
SOME of those cycles, however, are 150 years long. Long enough that may be out of the living memory of anyone. -SIGNY
Careful now, we may be on the same chapter, if not the same page. Cycles do come in a variety of colors, shapes and sizes.
Quote:First, one must recognize the problem and its size. If the problem is as large as I think it is, there will be a catastrophe that can't be prevented that will hurt EVERYONE, kind of like global warming. Expecting, or hoping, for a future in which "the little guy" will be spared is unrealistic. IMHO. The only rational response is to individually batten down the hatches as much as possible, and to hypothesize a collective path forward which can resist the spin and distortions that ideologues will put forward as they attempt to capitalize on the fear and doubt in the coming crisis.
I'm all for Reform and Change, but at what cost? And to whom? The "little guy" can ill afford to play economic poker.
Quote:Not really. If that were the case, they wouldn't be screaming so loud
Trump's moves have benefitted large corps and CEOs
Quote:Indeed.
but for us little guys - the sky is falling seems appropriate.- SHINY
Quote:To be honest, I have been posting this since I started posting here, so ...
by the few, who have gained the economic, financial, political, ethical, and philosophical levers of society. Because "Greed is good"- SIGNY
Ah so, "we" have been paying attention- SHINY.
Quote:Also, communication. Water supplies, watersheds, coastal restoration, energy and grid ... "the commons" ... everything that "business" can't "monetize" that we NEED for sustainable prosperity.
Infrastructure is only a part of the solution; it's not the "make-work" program that Obama envisioned.- SIGNY
I know, infrastructure alone is not the answer. By the way, what infrastructure are you talking about? I always thought that it meant bridges, roads, schools, airports and public transport. Yes, sometimes I've been accused of thinking and sprout forth ideas that go somewhat against the grain.- SHINY
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I'll come to the Big Questio
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The Death of the Dollar?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61834
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This is one reason why I established this thread. One of the main reasons why I call trump a scumbag, because he relishes the torture of human beings. By definition being a scumbag determines the complete reversal of any type of human decency in the aforementioned scumbag, namely trump.
And there's this:
Quote:
A federal judge on Monday found that U.S. government officials have been giving psychotropic medication to migrant children at a Texas facility without first seeking the consent of their parents or guardians, in violation of state child welfare laws.
Our "government" promotes this "Nazi-like" behavior. Who does this? Only an inhuman
monster with no empathy or feeling whatsoever.
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Staff members at Shiloh admitted to signing off on medications in lieu of a parent, relative or legal guardian, according to Gee’s ruling. Government officials defended this practice, saying they provided these drugs only on “an emergency basis” when a child’s “extreme psychiatric symptoms” became dangerous.
The judge didn’t buy this explanation, pointing to testimony from children who said they were given pills “every morning and every night.” Officials “could not have possibly” administered medications to children on an emergency basis every day, Gee wrote.
Absolutely horrible. This is beyond frightening, this could be the equivalent of a
war crime. The "government" has adopted "war crime" like tactics to affect future generations of children of color...the brown kind. Those responsible should be gathered and shot. No trial, no jury, nothing but "you forced a child to take psychotropic drugs. Stand here against this wall. Ready, Aim, Fire. All of them should be executed. Plain and simple. You just don't do that to kids, or anybody.
Merely because they seek asylum and a better way of life. How deathly afraid are
these people of losing their privileged lives. What the fuck is wrong with these people!
My guess is that we must reinstitute and activate the "Nazi hunters" because I think we missed a few after WWII.
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“I witnessed staff members forcefully give medication four times,” one child held at Shiloh, identified as Isabella M., said. “.?.?. Two staff members pinned down the girl .?.?. and a doctor gave her one or two injections.”
Isabella was prescribed multiple psychotropic medications at Shiloh, including topiramate, without her mother’s consent, according to an April court filing. “Nobody asked me for permission to give medications to my daughter, even though the staff at Shiloh has always had my telephone number and address,” the mother testified.
There is no excuse. No reason. This is complete and utter disregard for human life.
If you think I'm being a bit harsh or melodramatic about the above, just wait a few seconds. It is criminal what these "animals" are doing. Shooting is too good for them.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-administration-must-stop-givin
g-psychotropic-drugs-to-migrant-children-without-consent-judge-rules/ar-BBLiHkG?ocid=spartandhp
From a Washington Post story submitted earlier today by Samantha Schmidt
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
While in ICE custody, thousands of migrants reported sexual abuse
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/while-in-ice-custody-thousands-of-mi
grants-reported-sexual-abuse?utm_source=atlantic&utm_term=social
SCUMBAG! Abolish ICE!
What does this have to do with Trump? My cousin joined (what would later become) ICE at the beginning of his professional career forty years ago. He was assigned to Campo, CA, and one of the things that gave him an ulcer was knowing how abusive and predatory some of his fellow "officers" were, especially towards pretty young women. Son, this has been going on for - literally- decades. I know it's fashionable to attach every possible problem to the Trump administration, but that's ridiculous.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, haaaaaaaa………cough, cough!
Damn, I needed that. Way to go Six! I really needed a good hardy laugh out loud moment.
Thanks Buddy.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....
MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.
SGG
Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Oh, it gets better Captain. I saw an article headline that stated that trump was contemplating another $100 Billion Tax cut for the wealthy.
People just don't get it. "They, TPTB, are out to widen the economic inequality gap and it's "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead." In the final analysis it's going to be the Ultra-Rich and everybody else.
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:AS I HAVE POSTED ABOUT TWO DOZEN TIMES ... the "solutions" to our economic and social predicaments are far beyond what ANY President can accomplish, even in two terms. It would require such radical reorganization of banking and finance, a complete overhaul of our trade policies, re-industrialization and repairing/improving infrastructure, breakup of monopolies (including media monopolies) etc etc etc that would put FDR's efforts to shame.
Is it fair to attach the responsibility for solutions to current government problems to the current administration? Or maybe we should dig up Gerald Ford?
Hahahaha - you are so funny! So "there's no hope! Whaaaa! We're doomed!" And yet Trump with the help of his Republican friends found a way to line their pockets with billions of fresh American tax dollars. He did that, did he not?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The best thing that I expect from Trump is to keep those decisions WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, so that we can collectively make our way forward through what I perceive to be a coming disaster.
Uh-huh. You mean you can't help us?? Oh-nos.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Our problems have been over a half-century in the making, and they're not about to get solved in four or eight years. That's about as realistic and thinking we can reverse global climate change at this point.
I hope I don't have to repeat this point .... AGAIN ... for your edification, because I've posted it waaay too often already.
I sure hope you will find it in your heart to repeat that when I'm down and need a laugh. I think as SGG alludes to, markets are cyclical, so no genious award for you, sorries.
BTW, I keep seeing you referencing our "economic problems" - what are they exactly? I see nothing but growth and financial wellness, especially if you are wealthy. Employment is shiny - what are our "problems" that you continually whine about?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, haaaaaaaa………cough, cough!
Damn, I needed that. Way to go Six! I really needed a good hardy laugh out loud moment.
Thanks Buddy.
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....
MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.
SGG
Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You have an odd sense of humor.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Will you get to this Big Question any time soon?
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY
Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY
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Considering the surge of minor entering this country, I think that this is the best that can be expected on an emergency basis. 
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Considering the surge of minor entering this country, I think that this is the best that can be expected on an emergency basis.
minors
Really phoning it in today, aren't we? I feel for you that this story doesn't give you the opportunity to post more images of mutilated children though - must bother you a lot not to be able to scratch that itch.
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Just for completeness, I've posted THUGR's response here
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So explain to me sig how it is you intrude onto everyone else's threads with this type attitude.
Caging children who have been ripped away from their families
while creating an oasis like this thread for yourself to hide? Can you explain this? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&p=12
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Well, I thought we were all talking in a vacuum, so maybe bringing "real life" to our eyeballs might clarify things. Perhaps we will see things to be outraged about. Or maybe we'll see things as a tough situation that's being handled as best as possible on an emergency basis.
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Patience Grasshopper. I do have my job and then my work.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Will you get to this Big Question any time soon?
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY
Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY
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It's your "cave thing" statement. It just gave me the giggles.
What was it?
Quote:
Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.
You've been watching Alex Jones again. Dude check the dawn of man. I mean Google where civilization began. Here, allow me:
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Where did civilization begin?
Around 3200 B.C., civilization began in two separate areas. In an location that the world now knows as Iraq, the Sumerians settled to form Mesopotamia. In North Africa, ancient Egypt began to form along the Nile Valley.
There's more:
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The Aztecs were a Mesoamerican people of central Mexico in the fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth centuries. They were a civilization with a rich cultural heritage whose capital, Tenochtitlan, rivaled the greatest cities of Europe in size and grandeur.
Although the term Aztecs is often narrowly restricted to the Mexica of Tenochtitlan, it is also broadly used to refer to Nahua polities or peoples of central Mexico in the prehispanic era, as well as the Spanish colonial era. The definitions of Aztec and Aztecs have long been the topic of scholarly discussion, ever since German scientist Alexander von Humboldt established its common usage in the early nineteenth century.
You're welcome!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaa, ha, ha, haaaaaaaa………cough, cough!
Damn, I needed that. Way to go Six! I really needed a good hardy laugh out loud moment.
Thanks Buddy.
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As the Sun sets in the West, so fades the last vestiges of the "old" world order and the European model. And now the "white man" sings the blues....
MAGA, alas poor Yorick, I knew him Horatio...
in the throes of convulsive fits of raging against time.
SGG
Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You have an odd sense of humor.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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There are NO WORDS............
HHS Official Warned Against Family Separations (C-SPAN)
Senator Blumenthal getting double speak from an HHS official. You just can't
make this shit up folks. Unbelievable!!!
These are the geniuses we're dealing with. No policy, but they warned them.
What the fuck does that mean?
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Seriously Siggy, what was the Big Question again? I looked back in the thread, but couldn't find the Question.
Thanks.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Will you get to this Big Question any time soon?
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY
Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY
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This is why Trump and his administration are scumbags:
Really despicable....
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, I thought we were all talking in a vacuum, so maybe bringing "real life" to our eyeballs might clarify things. Perhaps we will see things to be outraged about. Or maybe we'll see things as a tough situation that's being handled as best as possible on an emergency basis.
"Zero Tolerance" was the opposite of "best as possible."
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The President of the United States is saying more than seven things that aren't true a day. SEVEN.
And, what's more, his tendency toward untruth is actually picking up steam. As WaPo's Glenn Kessler, Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly note, Trump was averaging less than five false or misleading claims in his first 100 days. (Only five!) But, between June and July Trump is averaging -- averaging -- 16 falsehoods a day. (As a thought experiment, try to lie -- or misrepresent -- 16 times tomorrow. I bet you can't.)
It's not just the raw numbers either. Trump has ramped up his disdain and dismissiveness of all forms of communication that don't originate with him. "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said earlier this month. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." On Tuesday, at a campaign rally in Tampa, Florida, Trump said: "You know, polls are fake, just like everything else."
That message is getting through. According to a CBS News poll released earlier this week, 91% of strong Trump supporters say they trust the President to provide them accurate information while 63% say they trust their family and friends to do the same. Just 11% of them trust the mainstream media to provide accurate information.
More at www.cnn.com/2018/08/01/politics/donald-trump-mistruths-analysis/index.
html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Well, I thought we were all talking in a vacuum, so maybe bringing "real life" to our eyeballs might clarify things. Perhaps we will see things to be outraged about. Or maybe we'll see things as a tough situation that's being handled as best as possible on an emergency basis. - SIGNY
"Zero Tolerance" was the opposite of "best as possible." - CC
BTW .... those pictures were taken in 2014.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Well, I thought we were all talking in a vacuum, so maybe bringing "real life" to our eyeballs might clarify things. Perhaps we will see things to be outraged about. Or maybe we'll see things as a tough situation that's being handled as best as possible on an emergency basis. - SIGNY
"Zero Tolerance" was the opposite of "best as possible." - CC
BTW .... those pictures were taken in 2014. Who was President then?
Zero Tolerance is Trump.
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So what? Is your beef with "how the children are treated?" or with the "zero tolerance policy"? Clarify.
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Quote:Will you get to this Big Question any time soon?
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY
Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY
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Quote:You've had it explained to you countless times, comrade.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Will you get to this Big Question any time soon?
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY
Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY
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Quote:Sorry SHINY, your post got buried.
Seriously Siggy, what was the Big Question again? I looked back in the thread, but couldn't find the Question.Thanks. SGG
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:You've had it explained to you countless times, comrade.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Will you get to this Big Question any time soon?
I'll come to the Big Question in a little while. Right now, I need to run some errands.- SHINY
Me too. Looking forward to your response. -SIGNY
Yes yes yes, I was about to say the same thing and did so about her, kiki and others trying to get us to explain things over and over as though it hasn't been explained umpteen times already.
It's why I am posting more and more news videos instead of writing about it. Let them argue with whats being reported and those reporting it instead of me. It's also why I am choosing more and more to respond to those who post facts instead of those who troll them.
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Quote:Well, I guess I had two, so I don't know which one you were focusing on. The perennial one is ...What are America's biggest problems, and how can we solve them? That's a pretty big question, don't you think? But as I worm my way thru the answer to that one, I found another question which is also pretty big, which the The Role of Government. It went like this ...
Seriously Siggy, what was the Big Question again? I looked back in the thread, but couldn't find the Question.Thanks. SGG
Sorry SHINY, your post got buried.- SIGNY
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I personally think that's one of the critical questions: What is the role of centralization in the coming storm?
When people face a Big Problem, they tend to look for a Big Fix. In this case, a "world-government" to solve world-straddling issues.
But what happens if the Big Fix is part of the Big Problem? There is a kind of One Ring quality to looking for ever-more-centralized solutions to ever-more-centralized causes. Everyone wants to grab it. Are we sure that Sauron has not already grasped the Ring of Power?
So, looked at this from a different perspective, perhaps the question can be re-framed as What is the proper role of government?
How I got to that question goes like this>>> Sometimes, the government winds up trying to solve a problem that it itself created. For example, the current wealth gap. That wealth gap has been getting steadily larger and larger no matter who is in office. Is "the fix" a government-mandated wealth redistribution plan, as SECOND seems to want? And, if we DO go the route of government-redistribution, might that not cause other problems down the road, such as a dependency on Big Government and people's loss of agency in their own lives? Maybe if we looked into the causes of the wealth gap, instead of simply patching the problem, we could develop a better more robust solution.
So there are several government-sourced causes of this wealth gap that could be fixed. One of them is the current system of "rentier economy", in which the worst form of "rent" is when banks own the ability to create money which they then lend out with interest. (No, banks don't simply lend out savings, that would mean 100% capitalization. banks are at about 6% capitalization, IIRC, which means that roughly 94% of the money that they lend is simply created by them.) So, a change in the "rules of the game" to require 100% capitalization would significantly reduce the hold that banks have on the circulation of capital.
There are all kinds of things I could point to, but I just wanted to give you an example of where I thought that government could eliminate a problem without becoming a larger and larger centralizing force in the economy.
I think these are both very large questions, and also very interesting ones that deserve a lot of thoughtful discussion. They are so multi-faceted, as each question has entire OTHER questions attached to them, it would be fascinating to go down some of these bunny-trails with other people.
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Quote:Signym, while you are wrapped inside your abstractions about "robust solutions" to the "people's loss of agency", Trump's right hand man signed a contract for his personal "government-mandated wealth redistribution plan". And the topic is "Why Trump is a Scumbag". Or maybe it should be "Why Trump Hires Thieves/Liars/Crooks" :
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is "the fix" a government-mandated wealth redistribution plan, as SECOND seems to want? And, if we DO go the route of government-redistribution, might that not cause other problems down the road, such as a dependency on Big Government and people's loss of agency in their own lives? Maybe if we looked into the causes of the wealth gap, instead of simply patching the problem, we could develop a better more robust solution.
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
The Wall Street Journal reports that Franklin Haney, a big donor to the Trump campaign, offered Michael Cohen a $10 million contract if he could wangle a huge federal loan for a couple of nuclear power plants.
Under the contract, Mr. Haney agreed to pay Mr. Cohen a monthly retainer in addition to the $10 million success fee if he could help obtain the funding, including approval of the full amount of the project’s application under a U.S. Department of Energy loan program, the people familiar with the deal said….The Wall Street Journal couldn’t determine how much Mr. Haney may have paid Mr. Cohen, if anything, in monthly retainer fees.
….James Thurber, a professor of government at American University, said success fees are “outside the ethical norms” among Washington lobbyists and are frowned upon. Century-old court rulings deemed fees contingent on lobbyists obtaining public funds or killing legislation unenforceable and counter to public policy, saying they encouraged corruption, he said. Several lobbyists contacted by the Journal said $10 million was an unheard-of sum to pay a consultant for government-related work.
Wow. Success fees are “outside the ethical norms” for lobbyists? I didn’t know that anything short of engaging a hit man was outside of ethical norms for lobbyists.
More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/08/who-ratted-out-michael-cohen/
Special note for Signym -- examples of government redistribution of wealth:
“You will not be paid for your land,” Pres. Andrew Jackson to the Seminole Indians.
“You will not be paid for your slaves,” Gen. Grant to slave owners.**
“You will pay Social Security for your employees,” Pres. FDR to employers.
“You will pay Medicare for your employees,” Pres. LBJ to employers.
**As late as the Hampton Roads Conference in 1865, Lincoln met with Confederate leaders and proposed a "fair indemnity", possibly $500,000,000, in compensation for emancipated slaves. Compensating the slaves, instead of the slave-owners, was not on the agenda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_slavery
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They were a civilization with a rich cultural heritage whose capital, Tenochtitlan, rivaled the greatest cities of Europe in size and grandeur.
I know I posted this before, but it bares repeating. One of the reasons for
my laughing fit.
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Yup. Everybody would still be living in caves and straw huts without us.
It was, my laughing fit, in response to this statement ("without us" I'm guessing refers to white folks). Perhaps my statement regarding "white men"
singing the blues triggered that response. It was not meant to be a racist
statement, but rather a commentary on the response by racists in this
country, or better stated, white racists in this country.
The white racists lamenting their lot in life and how they have been subjected to the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. The grip on privilege slowly, methodically switching back to humans of color. This country was invaded by white europeans who systematically destroyed the natives, and anyone else who got in their way, robbed them of their culture,
heritage, diginity, their form of civilization. Let me copy and paste the above once again to be clear:
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They were a civilization with a rich cultural heritage...rivaled the greatest cities of Europe in size and grandeur.
"Grandiose civilization" does that sound like huts and caves to you? Yes, early man lived in caves, but they were "men" of color. The Vikings were barbarians who emerged from caves. The Moors once ruled a vast area of Africa and parts of Europe. The Moors were black peoples. Modern day alphabet and math originated in Egypt. The Pyramids, they were caves right?
They stand to this day. Built by slaves and engineered by people of color.
One final thought........
I want to leave this post on a positive note. Just to show that I hold no grudges or animosity. I give you the grass roots genius of:
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Pedro Albizu Campos was a Puerto Rican attorney and politician, and the leading figure in the Puerto Rican independence movement. Gifted in languages, he spoke six. He graduated from Harvard Law School with the highest grade point average in his law class, an achievement that earned him the right to give the valedictorian speech at his graduation ceremony. However, animus towards his mixed racial heritage would lead to his professors delaying two of his final exams in order to keep Albizu Campos
from being the first Puerto Rican law valedictorian.
At the outset of WWI, he volunteered and joined the US Army. He was honorably discharged in 1919 as a First Lieutenant. He received his law degree in 1922. He clerked for the Supreme Court of the United States and
held a diplomatic post in the State Department before returning to Puerto Rico. He accepted a professorship at the UPR (University of Puerto Rico).
Not bad for a poor barefoot boy that once lived in a hut.
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Quote:Whatever happened to the ideal of equality?
The grip on privilege slowly, methodically switching back to humans of color.
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Quote:SGG seemed to want to discuss this ...
Signym, while you are wrapped inside your abstractions about "robust solutions" to the "people's loss of agency" ...
Quote:Well, this IS a discussion-board! It IS possible to discuss multiple topics at once, is it not? But I wouldn't have suggested continuing that particular discussion on this particular thread. Anyway, I'm still interested in discussing this topic. This constant bagging on Trump is tiresome ... for example, one positive thing I can say about Trump is that he hasn't started any new wars so far, and for a USA President that's pretty awesome, considering our history!
Trump's right hand man signed a contract for his personal "government-mandated wealth redistribution plan". And the topic is "Why Trump is a Scumbag".
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It appears to me that as Mueller and company get closer to interviewing him, along with indicting more people in the Russia probe, the more desperate he
becomes.
And notice his rallies are also becoming more frantic and chock full of lies.
What could possibly be going on in the news today that has him nervous.
Could it be the Manafort trial? Now he sends out his cabinet to assure the American people that there's nothing to see here and "we're" looking into
that 400-lb guy hacking away in his bedroom.
No collusion.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:
The President of the United States is saying more than seven things that aren't true a day. SEVEN.
And, what's more, his tendency toward untruth is actually picking up steam. As WaPo's Glenn Kessler, Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly note, Trump was averaging less than five false or misleading claims in his first 100 days. (Only five!) But, between June and July Trump is averaging -- averaging -- 16 falsehoods a day. (As a thought experiment, try to lie -- or misrepresent -- 16 times tomorrow. I bet you can't.)
It's not just the raw numbers either. Trump has ramped up his disdain and dismissiveness of all forms of communication that don't originate with him. "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said earlier this month. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." On Tuesday, at a campaign rally in Tampa, Florida, Trump said: "You know, polls are fake, just like everything else."
That message is getting through. According to a CBS News poll released earlier this week, 91% of strong Trump supporters say they trust the President to provide them accurate information while 63% say they trust their family and friends to do the same. Just 11% of them trust the mainstream media to provide accurate information.
More at www.cnn.com/2018/08/01/politics/donald-trump-mistruths-analysis/index.
html
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BTW .... those pictures were taken in 2014.
Really!? Then why didn't you attribute that in your original post?
HHS and Homeland security are running the show now, as they were back in 2014 when Obama was president.
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Now that the power dynamic pendulum is swinging in the opposite direction, that point is moot. Hence the Trump desperation and greediness tour.
One thing that the new power mongers have to adapt to is the "American Dream" dynamic.
Shoe, meet other foot.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Whatever happened to the ideal of equality?
The grip on privilege slowly, methodically switching back to humans of color.
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Discuss away.........but this thread is called "Why Trump is a Scumbag" is it not? So, it stands to reason that Trump would be the main topic of - say
it with me - discussion.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:SGG seemed to want to discuss this ...
Signym, while you are wrapped inside your abstractions about "robust solutions" to the "people's loss of agency" ...Quote:Well, this IS a discussion-board! It IS possible to discuss multiple topics at once, is it not? But I wouldn't have suggested continuing that particular discussion on this particular thread. Anyway, I'm still interested in discussing this topic. This constant bagging on Trump is tiresome ... for example, one positive thing I can say about Trump is that he hasn't started any new wars so far, and for a USA President that's pretty awesome, considering our history!
Trump's right hand man signed a contract for his personal "government-mandated wealth redistribution plan". And the topic is "Why Trump is a Scumbag".
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Yes, I know.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Sorry SHINY, your post got buried.
Seriously Siggy, what was the Big Question again? I looked back in the thread, but couldn't find the Question.Thanks. SGG
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So, looked at this from a different perspective, perhaps the question can be re-framed as What is the proper role of government?
The role of government is to serve it's people.
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How I got to that question goes like this>>> Sometimes, the government winds up trying to solve a problem that it itself created.
You mean like that whole "Zero Tolerance" debacle.
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For example, the current wealth gap. That wealth gap has been getting steadily larger and larger no matter who is in office.
That is not so. The gap seems to widen more when Republicans are in charge.
Taxes, tariffs, the demolition of established law and institutions, etc.
You know this.
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I think these are both very large questions, and also very interesting ones that deserve a lot of thoughtful discussion. They are so multi-faceted, as each question has entire OTHER questions attached to them, it would be fascinating to go down some of these bunny-trails with other people.
I don't know what to say, except that this subset within the Community heading was built for just that...discussion. All within the parameters
set by the thread topic. Agreed. Let's discuss the role of government as
affected by the current administration. I think that would certainly be interesting.
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Quote:It is not awesome that Trump hasn't started a war. He'd have to persuade the Pentagon and they won't fight unless he explains why and he hasn't been able to. You do remember his Fire and Fury tirade? That had no effect on the Pentagon. And North Korea didn't believe him, either. So nothing happened, despite North Korea NOT doing what Trump demanded, even after the meeting in Singapore. Trump has forgotten what he wanted from Kim.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:SGG seemed to want to discuss this ...
Signym, while you are wrapped inside your abstractions about "robust solutions" to the "people's loss of agency" ...Quote:Well, this IS a discussion-board! It IS possible to discuss multiple topics at once, is it not? But I wouldn't have suggested continuing that particular discussion on this particular thread. Anyway, I'm still interested in discussing this topic. This constant bagging on Trump is tiresome ... for example, one positive thing I can say about Trump is that he hasn't started any new wars so far, and for a USA President that's pretty awesome, considering our history!
Trump's right hand man signed a contract for his personal "government-mandated wealth redistribution plan". And the topic is "Why Trump is a Scumbag".
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Here is an example where Trump does remember accurately what he wants from one month to the next:
Trump's nomination of Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court deserves special attention. We know he’s starkly, extremely, anti-labor — way to the right of the mainstream, and well to the right even of most Republicans.
The best-known example of his radically anti-worker views is his argument that SeaWorld shouldn’t face any liability after a captive killer whale killed one of its workers, because the victim should have known the risks when she took the job. But there’s much more anti-labor extremism in his record.
But why would Trump, the self-proclaimed champion of American workers, choose someone like that? Why would he do all the things he’s doing to hurt the very people who gave him the White House?
I don’t know the answer, but I do think that the conventional explanation — that Trump, who is both lazy and supremely ignorant about policy details, was unwittingly captured by G.O.P. orthodoxy — both underestimates the president and makes him seem nicer than he is.
Watching Trump in action, it’s hard to escape the impression that he knows very well that he’s inflicting punishment on his own base. He’s a man who likes to humiliate others, in ways great and small. My guess is that he actually takes pleasure in watching his supporters follow him even as be betrays them.
In fact, sometimes his contempt for his working-class base comes right out into the open. Remember “I love the poorly educated”? Remember his boast that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters because they are stupid?
Anyway, whatever his motivations, Trump in action is the opposite of populist.
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Quote:OK. "Serve it's people", What does that mean. Who are "It's people"? Can you provide examples of what "serve" means? (I suggest that we continue this elsewhere.)
So, looked at this from a different perspective, perhaps the question can be re-framed as What is the proper role of government? - SIGNY
The role of government is to serve it's people.- SGG
Quote:Yes, that is one example. But when it comes to "What are America's BIGGEST problems?, is that really the biggest one that you can think of? Because the "zero tolerance" problem affects - as far as I can tell- NON-Americans. While "global climate shift", "debt", and "wealth gap" certainly spring to mind as important problems that affect AMERICANS.
How I got to that question goes like this>>> Sometimes, the government winds up trying to solve a problem that it itself created.- SIGNY
You mean like that whole "Zero Tolerance" debacle. - SGG
Quote:Have you not looked at the many historic, data-based charts that I posted for SECOND, like this one?
For example, the current wealth gap. That wealth gap has been getting steadily larger and larger no matter who is in office.- SIGNY
That is not so. The gap seems to widen more when Republicans are in charge.- SGG
Some of the biggest growth in inequality occurred under Democratic Presidents. Also, if you look at the GINI (inequality) index of each state, three of the top five worst inequality occurs in Dem states (CA, CT, NY) and some of the most equal are Republican states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Gini_coefficient
Quote:I look at the net effect. Did Dems create more equal GINI indexes? Not that I can see.
Taxes, tariffs, the demolition of established law and institutions, etc. You know this. - SGG
Quote:It sounds to me like you're assuming that if Trump goes, corruption just somehow magically stops? Don't you think that's sounds a bit ...er ... limited?
I think these are both very large questions, and also very interesting ones that deserve a lot of thoughtful discussion. They are so multi-faceted, as each question has entire OTHER questions attached to them, it would be fascinating to go down some of these bunny-trails with other people.- SGG
I don't know what to say, except that this subset within the Community heading was built for just that...discussion. All within the parameters set by the thread topic. Agreed. Let's discuss the role of government as affected by the current administration. I think that would certainly be interesting.- SGG
But, sure! Let's discuss this in another thread!
What are American's biggest problems .... under the Trump administration ... and how can we solve them"
Where shall we discuss this? Just create the thread, point the way, and I'll be there!
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Quote:It sounds to me like you are assuming that the Federal Government is in control of America. That was never true. Signym, whatever problems you list for America, those problems are less urgent for the Americans with more money and more power than the Feds. I’m certain that the top 1% or 2% have almost none of the problems on whatever list you might create.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It sounds to me like you're assuming that if Trump goes, corruption just somehow magically stops? Don't you think that's sounds a bit ...er ... limited?
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
https://dqydj.com/net-worth-brackets-wealth-brackets-one-percent/
The Americans that have the power to solve Signym's problem list are the same Americans who have almost none of those problems. They don’t have much motivation to solve other Americans’ problems.
Do you see the problem about solving American problems when the most powerful group of Americans, more powerful than the Feds, have no legal obligation nor personal need & desire to solve them?
Net result: nothing solved on Signym’s list of hypothetical American problems.
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It sounds to me like you are assuming that the Federal Government is in control of America. That was never true. Signym, whatever problems you list for America, those problems are less urgent for the Americans with more money and more power than the Feds. I’m certain that the top 1% or 2% have almost none of the problems on whatever list you might create.
This is likely the most true thing Second posted here.
Not really sure what the motive of telling anybody that is though, other than to gloat about how much money and power he has.
All hail our 1% Overlords.
lol
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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You've had it explained to you countless times, comrade. - RF
Yes yes yes, I was about to say the same thing and did so about her, kiki and others trying to get us to explain things over and over as though it hasn't been explained umpteen times already.
It's why I am posting more and more news videos instead of writing about it. Let them argue with whats being reported and those reporting it instead of me. It's also why I am choosing more and more to respond to those who post facts instead of those who troll them. - T
Agreed - they're just here to agitate. It's not easy all the time, but IGNORE is a step in the right direction.
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Quote:America is run more like a Kingdom than a Democracy, but the King is far weaker than the 6 million in the American nobility, the Overlords. It is not a very exclusive group. You can buy your way into the lowest rung of the nobility with as little as $3,000,000 net worth.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It sounds to me like you are assuming that the Federal Government is in control of America. That was never true. Signym, whatever problems you list for America, those problems are less urgent for the Americans with more money and more power than the Feds. I’m certain that the top 1% or 2% have almost none of the problems on whatever list you might create.
This is likely the most true thing Second posted here.
Not really sure what the motive of telling anybody that is though, other than to gloat about how much money and power he has.
All hail our 1% Overlords.
lol
Do Right, Be Right. :)
When America has an energetic King, a President such as FDR, he will keep his powerful nobility in their proper place. For example, FDR replaced Henry Ford because he would not convert his factories over to War Production. Henry Ford the Second was released from military service to became the new CEO of Ford, replacing his grandfather. If the American nobility is to be kept more or less in its proper place, the President has to guillotine the stubborn ones. The rest will then take instruction. But Trump is not a strong president. The rich can do whatever they please and Trump won't even pretend to stop them.
He helps the American nobility to cheat on taxes, as he helps himself. The IRS is auditing the fewest Americans since 2002. The nobility, the rich Americans, love that about Trump.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/380760-the-irs-is-auditing-fewest-am
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Quote:If the last time that we had an "energetic" king was FDR, then we've had a whole lot of compliant Presidents (of both parties) since then, and Trump is just another in a long line of weaklings.
America is run more like a Kingdom than a Democracy, but the King is far weaker than the 6 million in the American nobility, the Overlords. It is not a very exclusive group. You can buy your way into the lowest rung of the nobility with as little as $3,000,000 net worth.
When America has an energetic King, a President such as FDR, he will keep his powerful nobility in their proper place. For example, FDR replaced Henry Ford because he would not convert his factories over to War Production. Henry Ford the Second was released from military service to became the new CEO of Ford, replacing his grandfather. If the American nobility is to be kept more or less in its proper place, the President has to guillotine the stubborn ones. The rest will then take instruction. But Trump is not a strong president. The rich can do whatever they please and Trump won't even pretend to stop them.
But that still leaves us with the question about America's biggest problems, under Trump. If WE .... the peons .... can't figure that out for ourselves, then the lords and lordlings will continue to have their way. This is a discussion that you, SECOND, seem absolutely determined that none shall have! Every time it comes up, you try to thwart it.
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So, what is so hard about brainstorming a question. Haven't you ever been in a brainstorming session before? For THIS question ("biggest problems for Americans under Trump") first, we define the problem ... for example, I'm sure there will be a lot of discussion about "what is an American?" and whether or not we should restrict the list to Americans, or not. Then we start simply developing an unrestricted list of problems, where everyone just adds "problems" to the list as they think of them...
YOU (SECOND) for example might list
Pussy-grabber
Racism
Money-grabber
THUGR might list
RUSSIA!!!
CC might list
Immigration policies
Russian connections
Social policies (re-igniting prejudice against gays)
etc ....
When we have all added everything we each think are the biggest problems, we go through and discuss them one by one to see if they really rank on the "biggest" list, if they should be crossed off, or if a different problem should be added. Retention on the "biggest" list should be by EVIDENCE: preferably NUMBERS of people affected, or some logic which demonstrates that although only a small number of people are DIRECTLY affected everyone is indirectly affected (for example, there were relatively a small number of slaves in the USA, but the entire economy of the south was affected by reducing the value of labor.) Once we have it narrowed down to (say) the top 10, then we can start on ways to solve them, following the same "list" procedure.
It's not rocket science. In fact, it's an easy procedure, it just takes a lot of time. Also, it takes "active listening", lots of questions, and goodwill... no trolling. But it's extremely valuable as a way to promote better understanding between people, because each person has to explain their POV in detail WHY they think that their POV makes sense. Sometimes, answers comes out that surprise everyone, even the person speaking. It can even be lots of fun! I hope that since the question is rather abstract, there shouldn't be a huge emotional investment in the answers.
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Here's my contribution:
America's biggest problem, humanity's biggest problem, and the world's biggest problem is nuclear war. We could end up at 'game over' in minutes. We need to solve that.
It's second biggest problem is nuclear power. We have two festering sores that will leak radiation to the end of human history unless we figure out what to do with them, and apparently, we don't care if we get more. Along with that, we haven't figured out what to do with the waste from any of the 460 existing power plants and 60 under construction. Not that this is all under our control, but the consequences visit us nevertheless.
I have others I would like to mention, but that'll have to be later.
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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I'd include nuclear war as a top problem, too. Not only is it a dire consequence, it would affect every single American, rich or poor.
Climate change ... I'd put that in my list of problems that will affect most Americans negatively, and is already affecting many Americans negatively. Also, it's a problem destined to get worse with time, and not better. In fact, MOST environmental problems trend this way.
I would say the "wealth gap", but that is just a symptom of deeper problems IMHO, so I'd put that one off for a while.
A non-robust economy. Too centralized, too parasitized, too corrupt, too divergent, and too fragile to survive even a moderate shock.
A fractured society consisting of rampant individuals. It's impossible to address ANY of our problems if we refuse to work together and, in fact, refuse to to recognize that "society" exists ... or even should exist ... where we all (or nearly all) have some things in common.
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I see the whiners are whining again. Start building bunkers people cause Americans are going to force Putin to blow up the world.
Can you see me laughing?
T
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"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
I think the germane portions here are establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquility, and promoting the general welfare.
Blumpy is not doing any of that. He seems to delight in sowing chaos, torturing children, and robbing the working class.
He (like any narcissist,) loves to lie and gaslight, apparently for his own amusement, as much as anything else.
He's going down, hopefully sooner than later. It will take years to fix the damage he's already done.
It's a real commentary on the Republicans that they prefer to cower behind him, rather than call a fascist a fascist.
There are simply no patriots on the right in 2018.
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U.S. officials are choosing to disregard Donald Trump’s orders. It’s an alarming dynamic, of course, because our system of government isn’t supposed to work this way, but it’s nearly as troubling that Trump doesn’t seem to notice. He seems to make official declarations, assuming his orders will be followed, but he fails to do any follow up.
On his first day in office Trump all but sabotaged the White House hiring office and, in consequence, appointed hardly anyone to subcabinet posts out in the executive agencies. Every student of government knows that controlling the bureaucracy is crucial, and to do that you need your own people in as many jobs as possible. Everyone knows this. But Trump doesn’t care. He's a scumbag.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
There are simply no patriots on the right in 2018.
People on the equal and opposite extreme right would say the exact same thing about there being no patriots on the left in 2018 either.
I think everybody needs to drop the hyperbole and just chillax a bit.
You people on both sides are going crazy.
It's actually kind of amusing to watch.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You people on both sides are going crazy.
It's actually kind of amusing to watch.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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They told us they could hit a couple computer keys and reunite all
the kidnapped asylum seeking children with their parents. Until a
federal judge actually ordered them to do it, that is, and then it
was like no way can do.
The final court imposed deadline has now passed. The Trump evil
Keystone Cops administration officials were given 30 days to get
these lost children back with their families. And STILL nearly 1,000
are in indefinite confinement limbo.
Their parents are begging for us not to forget them.
So what's the excuse now, other than the fact that they have already
trashed the records of who the rightful parents of these kidnapped
children are, or are at the same time aggressively trying to move
these children into foster homes to make the kidnapping permanent?
HHS now argues that many of real parents of these children are
so-called "ineligible," as if they happily signed away their parental
rights. When the truth is that they were stampeded in mass cattle
call court appearances into signing pieces of paper they could not
understand, while being told if they did not do so they would never
see their children again.
At the same time these children were lied to and told that their
parents had actually intentionally abandoned them. When the truth is
they were forcefully deported, even as they were pleading for return
of their children.
Trump is fond of calling the investigation of his crimes a disgrace,
and a stain on America, repeating himself like a interminable broken
record.
The cruel and heartless stealing of these children is the real
disgrace, the real stain on America. Though so many other Trump
scandals are competing for that title.
And the only way to wash away the stain is to hold Trump fully
responsible for everything he is responsible for. Not only is Trump
smearing the foreign election conspiracy investigation in general, he
is growing increasingly ugly in his attacks on Mueller personally,
yesterday accusing Mueller himself of doing "dirty work."
That's not going to go over well with those at the Special Counsel's
office, who were already intensively monitoring Trump's each and
every tweet for evidence of intent of obstruction of justice, that we
can tell you.
We can't think of a better way to make Mueller more determined than
ever to throw the book at Trump, even if he wasn't already planning
on indicting Trump while in office (our longstanding prediction). All
Mueller has to do is ASK Rosenstein for permission to do so. Any
opinion that he cannot or shouldn't is just that, an otherwise
non-binding, much lower that Supreme Court level, administrative
opinion.
Mueller is strongly motivated to see justice DONE. He lives for
nothing else.
And justice will NOT be done by just delivering an investigative
report to a Congress that will never convict Trump in the Senate,
even if impeached in the House, because Republicans are only
interested in nullifying Mueller's conclusions. If Mueller did not
know that already, the increasingly strident attacks on him also by
Congress should deliver that message quite clearly.
SCUMBAG!
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Quote:Nope! The left joins conspiracy cults like RUSSIA!!!, promotes violence against other Americans, and cheers on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens.
The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families.
You really should look in a mirror sometimes. (Unless, of course, you have no reflection?)
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IS THIS YOUR LIST OF AMERICA'S BIGGEST PROBLEMS UNDER TRUMP?
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
I think the germane portions here are establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquility, and promoting the general welfare.
Blumpy is not doing any of that. He seems to delight in sowing chaos, torturing children, and robbing the working class.
He (like any narcissist,) loves to lie and gaslight, apparently for his own amusement, as much as anything else.
He's going down, hopefully sooner than later. It will take years to fix the damage he's already done.
It's a real commentary on the Republicans that they prefer to cower behind him, rather than call a fascist a fascist.
There are simply no patriots on the right in 2018.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Nope! The left joins conspiracy cults like RUSSIA!!!, promotes violence against other Americans, and cheers on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens.
The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families.
Hey! She's back to lying again - that didn't take long.
1. I think to be more accurate and honest, the deniers, Pro-Trumpers and Pro-Soviets have promoted the only real RUSSIA!!! cult, the one in which you try and absolve all of Trump's and his campaign's direct connections with Russia, by saying the real investigation into Russia's very real attack is fake. Like you just did.
2. Who is promoting violence against other Americans? Surely you mean Trump. He's done it so often there's even a convenient cheat sheet just for you - guess what it's called:
All the times Trump has called for Violence at his rallies
https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#htz92fwhD
iqg
3. No one cheers on any on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens - ok, maybe there are some Republicans who would cheer if someone blew up kids in some shit hole country. Almost forgot: there are some people who like to post graphic images of mutilated children just to be an @sshole - does that count?
Reaverfan - right again.
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Quote:Speaking of lying ... like I just DIDN'T. Do you remember what I've said about Russia and it's involvement in our elections?
The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families. -RF
Nope! The left joins conspiracy cults like RUSSIA!!!, promotes violence against other Americans, and cheers on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens. SIGNY
Hey! She's back to lying again - that didn't take long.
1. I think to be more accurate and honest, the deniers, Pro-Trumpers and Pro-Soviets have promoted the only real RUSSIA!!! cult, the one in which you try and absolve all of Trump's and his campaign's direct connections with Russia, by saying the real investigation into Russia's very real attack is fake. Like you just did. - GSTRING
NOPE!
Quote:ANTIFA.
2. Who is promoting violence against other Americans?
Quote:But you stayed very, very silent when it happened under Obama. I can't recall a single time that you decried our destruction of a whole swath of the Middle East, or if you ever brought up Madeline Albright's statement that killing a half-million Iraq children was "worth it", or had a little frisson of distaste when Hillary chirped We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*. Nope, you were ready to vote for the candidate who wanted a more "kinetic approach" to Syria.
3. No one cheers on any on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Nope! The left joins conspiracy cults like RUSSIA!!!, promotes violence against other Americans, and cheers on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens.
The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families.
Hey! She's back to lying again - that didn't take long.
1. I think to be more accurate and honest, the deniers, Pro-Trumpers and Pro-Soviets have promoted the only real RUSSIA!!! cult, the one in which you try and absolve all of Trump's and his campaign's direct connections with Russia, by saying the real investigation into Russia's very real attack is fake. Like you just did.
2. Who is promoting violence against other Americans? Surely you mean Trump. He's done it so often there's even a convenient cheat sheet just for you - guess what it's called:
All the times Trump has called for Violence at his rallies
https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#htz92fwhD
iqg
3. No one cheers on any on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens - ok, maybe there are some Republicans who would cheer if someone blew up kids in some shit hole country. Almost forgot: there are some people who like to post graphic images of mutilated children just to be an @sshole - does that count?
Reaverfan - right again.
Totally amazed G. This guys argue against every institution in this country. All they offer are opinions that the facts as reported by these institutions are wrong. They never offer any evidence to the contrary.
I see sig started another thread posting a story without a source. We all know what that means, bullshit.
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Quote:If you believe that our "institutions" include bombing the snot out of foreign nations, control of our politics by a tiny elite, hemorrhaging money into our military-security complex, laying open the USA to exploitation by foreigners, and causing internal dissension through liberal application of identity politics ... well, yeah, I guess I'm against those "institutions".
This guys argue against every institution in this country.
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Quote:Russian meddling is acknowledged by all intelligence agencies and the Senate.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Nope! The left joins conspiracy cults like RUSSIA!!!, promotes violence against other Americans, and cheers on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens.
The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families.
You really should look in a mirror sometimes. (Unless, of course, you have no reflection?)
Please show us this violence the left promotes. And no, Maxine Waters didn't promote violence. Don't make me bust out the long list of murders, bombings, and assaults by Dotards.
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Quote:So were "Iraq's WMD". They all stood, shoulder to shoulder, and completely conned the nation.
Russian meddling is acknowledged by all intelligence agencies and the Senate.
Yeah, Trump is a douche. But this RUSSIA!!!! hysteria is just another con job.
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Oh the irony
sgg
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:If you believe that our "institutions" include bombing the snot out of foreign nations, control of our politics by a tiny elite, hemorrhaging money into our military-security complex, laying open the USA to exploitation by foreigners, and causing internal dissension through liberal application of identity politics ... well, yeah, I guess I'm against those "institutions".
This guys argue against every institution in this country.
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Another con job......
YGTBFKM
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:So were "Iraq's WMD". They all stood, shoulder to shoulder, and completely conned the nation.
Russian meddling is acknowledged by all intelligence agencies and the Senate.
Yeah, Trump is a douche. But this RUSSIA!!!! hysteria is just another con job.
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I'm all for the left beating the fuck out of the KKK and the make-believe Nazis (come get your tiki torches). There is no room in this country for
Such deep seeded hatred and cruelty.
The scumbags in HHS and Homeland Security need to be locked up in the detention centers. They need the same treatment they gave the young children.
sgg
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Nope! The left joins conspiracy cults like RUSSIA!!!, promotes violence against other Americans, and cheers on Presidents who bomb kids to smithereens.
The left isn't joining conspiracy cults like QAnon, going on shooting sprees, or cheering a president who rips children from their families.
You really should look in a mirror sometimes. (Unless, of course, you have no reflection?)
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Quote:Indeed. That someone like SHINY who pretends to be "for" the United States would support such anti-American activities.
Oh the irony-SGG
Quote:Nope. Nope, it really happened. Were YOU conned?
Russian meddling is acknowledged by all intelligence agencies and the Senate. -RF
So were "Iraq's WMD". They all stood, shoulder to shoulder, and completely conned the nation.-SIGNY
YGTBFKM- SGG
Quote:Fixed it for ya.
I'm all for the left beating the fuck out of the KKK and the make-believe Nazis (come get your tiki torches).There is no room in this countryI'm all for such deep seeded hatred and cruelty.- SGG
Cue the spittle from SGG in 3.... 2....1...
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Trump smears visa lottery recipients, who are vetted like all other immigrants, of literally being murderers. Video:
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1025889229468041217/video/1
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What Russia Understands about Trump
He cannot admit to accepting help, even from his own family. When he was about to default on his debts for the Taj Mahal, a lawyer bought $3-4 million in chips but placed no bets. This sum was very close to the amount the casino needed to make its first payment. Fred Trump, the father Donald Trump idolizes and whose virtues and business acumen he extols, was the man behind the bailout. Why couldn’t a wealthy father simply help his son financially, directly and out in the open? To do so would force an admission of defeat from someone with “killer instincts” to win. This explains why Trump compulsively denies and obfuscates what he knows to be true—that Putin helped him win the White House. “His fear, according to one of his closest aides who spoke on the condition of anonymity,” noted The New York Times on July 18, “is that any admission of even an unsuccessful Russian attempt to influence the 2016 vote raises questions about the legitimacy of his presidency.”
More at www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/08/02/what-russia-understands-about-trump/
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Speaking of lying ... like I just DIDN'T. Do you remember what I've said about Russia and it's involvement in our elections?
It was weak? If you don't think Russia! is a real threat then you are either a Trump dupe, a Russian shill, or just ignorant. Or maybe all 3.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:ANTIFA.
2. Who is promoting violence against other Americans?
OMG! A couple car fires! Yeah - you're pissin' in the wind.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I can't recall a single time that you...
You get a lot of us mixed up, so no surprise there, Granny. I bet you forget half of what you post.
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