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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, August 2, 2018 5:11 AM (P)

Only 2,464 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001230

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, August 2, 2018 6:31 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I suggest if you want to show me as a hypocrite re-post the posts instead of making false claims. If they exist just click on reply with a quote.

It matters not what Jack, JSF, KIKI, SIG, our Russian trolls and forever Trumpers say, the mainstream media is lighting the way.

tick tock

T

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:38 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Love the visual G. Giuliani said they contacted Mueller 11 days ago with a new offer concerning Trump talking with Mueller. They have not heard back. Does this mean Trump is no longer a person of interest and instead now the target of an investigation.

Isn't this exciting?

It is! He's committing crimes in front of billions of people. It's like his guilt is typing for him. An incredible show - wouldn't miss it for the world. How many are going down with him? Are lawyers immune to "Obstruction" charges? Giuliani's pretty well admitted (also on camera) that he's counseled Trump to lie.

THG

Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:28 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Love the visual G. Giuliani said they contacted Mueller 11 days ago with a new offer concerning Trump talking with Mueller. They have not heard back. Does this mean Trump is no longer a person of interest and instead now the target of an investigation.

Isn't this exciting?

It is! He's committing crimes in front of billions of people. It's like his guilt is typing for him. An incredible show - wouldn't miss it for the world. How many are going down with him? Are lawyers immune to "Obstruction" charges? Giuliani's pretty well admitted (also on camera) that he's counseled Trump to lie.

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Washington Post Tallies Up President Donald Trump's False, Misleading Claims

THG

Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:52 PM (P)

Keep in mind that we're speaking about the Russia investigation. It's not Muellers' investigation.This is our government investigating how Russia attacked this country. Don't miss what comes after the 5 minute mark. It talks about how some Americans are trying to disrupt the investigation and are therefore adding and abetting the enemy.

Aiding and abetting is a legal doctrine related to the guilt of someone who aids or abets in the commission of a crime. It exists in a number of different countries and generally allows a court to pronounce someone guilty for aiding and abetting in a crime even if they are not the principal offender.
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THG

Sunday, August 5, 2018 7:22 PM (P)

Trump admits his son colluded (conspired) with the russians in an ill advised tweet. What a fucking moron. His son must have shit himself when he saw this. Trump is now a Mueller team witness against his son and anyone else who attended that meeting then lied to congress about the nature of that meeting.

tick tock...............Oh kiki, come out and playeaaaa...

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"Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!"

THG

Sunday, August 5, 2018 10:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

This was the first post by me to start off the thread. Answer, Yep...

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THG

Monday, August 6, 2018 8:26 PM (P)

Some think Mueller will unleash another wave of indictments before labor day and he goes dark until after the elections. ???

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THG

Monday, August 6, 2018 8:37 PM (P)

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REAVERFAN

Monday, August 6, 2018 9:43 PM (P)

President Admits Trump Tower Meeting Was Meant to Get Dirt on Clinton
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/politics/trump-tower-meeting-don
ald-jr.html

No, it's not perfectly legal.

First, it was about Russian adoptions, then they said Trump had no idea. Then it went to it was about Hillary, but he just dictated it. Then it went to now: It was specifically for getting dirt and he obviously knew about it. It took the same route of lies that that Stormy Daniels shit did.

Try. Convict. Execute.

THG

Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:10 AM (P)

Barbara McQuade and Chuck Rosenberg, former U.S. attorneys, discuss the role Rick Gates played not only in Paul Manafort's business, but as part of the Donald Trump campaign as well as serving on the Trump transition team, and what might be the broader legal implications of his cooperating with Robert Mueller.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gates-utility-to-mueller-exte
nds-far-beyond-manafort-case-1293582403559?playlist=associated

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SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:23 PM (P)

Dude, we get it.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,464 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001230

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:28 PM (P)

Yeah, and we're getting closer to the "interview" with Trump....we're at the quarter mile and about to the make the turn. Somebody's going to jail and it has Trump written all over it.

Who would have thought that Senior would throw Junior under the bus like that.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Barbara McQuade and Chuck Rosenberg, former U.S. attorneys, discuss the role Rick Gates played not only in Paul Manafort's business, but as part of the Donald Trump campaign as well as serving on the Trump transition team, and what might be the broader legal implications of his cooperating with Robert Mueller.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/gates-utility-to-mueller-exte
nds-far-beyond-manafort-case-1293582403559?playlist=associated

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:18 PM (P)

At the quarter mile, huh? Only two years in. At this rate you guys will have Trump right where you want him at the end of his second term in 2024.

Good luck! :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, August 8, 2018 4:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At the quarter mile, huh? Only two years in. At this rate you guys will have Trump right where you want him at the end of his second term in 2024.

Good luck! :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ixStringJack, all that is really happening here is that the American system of justice works very slowly. Gangster John Gotti was murdering people. It took Mueller, the same guy who is investigating Trump, many years to jail Gotti.

A more functional system would be the Judge Dredd system, where Trump cannot refuse to talk to Mueller and where Trump gets executed if he gives the wrong answer. No waiting for justice.

www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/how-scared-should-trump-be-of-mueller-
ask-john-gotti-or-sammy-the-bull
HOW SCARED SHOULD TRUMP BE OF MUELLER? ASK JOHN GOTTI

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 8, 2018 7:49 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At the quarter mile, huh? Only two years in. At this rate you guys will have Trump right where you want him at the end of his second term in 2024.

Good luck! :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)
6ixStringJack, all that is really happening here is that the American system of justice works very slowly. Gangster John Gotti was murdering people. It took Mueller, the same guy who is investigating Trump, many years to jail Gotti.

lol

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A more functional system would be the Judge Dredd system, where Trump cannot refuse to talk to Mueller and where Trump gets executed if he gives the wrong answer. No waiting for justice.

I'm sure you 1%'ers will love that. You'll probably use Trump as the reason it should be the law of the land.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:23 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

At the quarter mile, huh? Only two years in. At this rate you guys will have Trump right where you want him at the end of his second term in 2024.

Good luck! :)

6ixStringJack, all that is really happening here is that the American system of justice works very slowly.]

Rather than be amazed by how professional Mueller is Jack shows he is clueless and can't follow along. No surprise there.

Hey Jack, 33 indictments, 26 are Russian, 4 were top trump cabinet members or managers of his campaign. 3 were Russian companies and that's just the tip of the iceberg dummy.

I've said it before and I'll remind you. Mueller hasn't even gotten to Assange yet. Or Trump JR, or Stone, or the son in law. And so on and so on. In the meantime everyone Trump has brought to Washington is being exposed as a swamp creature. You come across as a complete moron Jack. Think boy think.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:47 AM (P)

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Thursday, August 9, 2018 8:35 PM (P)

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President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani gets angry with CNN's Chris Cuomo after Cuomo played a 1998 clip of him saying that presidents must comply with subpoenas to testify.

THG

Saturday, August 11, 2018 6:16 AM (P)

Julian Assange ‘Seriously Considering’ Testifying Before Senate Panel
Assange’s safety must be ensured, his lawyer says.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/julian-assange-senate-panel-testi
mony_us_5b6cf464e4b0530743c891ff

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SECOND

Saturday, August 11, 2018 7:29 PM (P)

What’s going on with Mueller’s questioning of Stone’s associates

So for the past several months, Mueller’s team has brought several close associates of Stone before the grand jury, in an apparent attempt to suss out what exactly Stone knew and did related to stolen Democratic emails — but some have been more willing than others. The latest drama involves three in particular:

1) Andrew Miller: Miller is a political operative with deep and longtime ties to Stone. His stepmom, Dianne Thorne, was Stone’s assistant for about two decades. His wife has done publicity for Stone’s books. And he himself started off as Stone’s driver before taking on more political work for him. Miller calls him “Uncle Stone” and even drove him to get his famous Richard Nixon tattoo, as he described on a podcast last year.

Miller was initially subpoenaed by Mueller’s team in May, but refused to show up to two scheduled grand jury appearances. Eventually, he got the help of a conservative think tank to file a lawsuit to try to get him out of testifying — by trying to strike down Mueller’s appointment. But last week, a DC judge ruled against him in the suit and said that, yes, he did have to testify.

Miller’s new testimony was scheduled for Friday — and once again, he didn’t show up. As a result, a judge found him in contempt. But his legal team is appealing again, hoping to bring the case eventually to the Supreme Court.

Why Miller is fighting so hard to avoid testimony isn’t clear. The Washington Post reports that the subpoena to him asked for information on WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, Guccifer 2, and DC Leaks. A Super PAC run by Stone also made a payment to a firm run by Miller during the 2016 campaign.

2) Kristin Davis: Another recurring character in Stoneworld who’s caught Mueller’s interest is Kristin Davis, the former “Manhattan Madam” who gained national fame during the prostitution scandal that forced the resignation of New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer. Davis did some work for Stone, and ran for governor of New York in 2010 at Stone’s urging (her campaign manager was Andrew Miller).

After serving a prison sentence for distributing prescription drugs, Davis got out in 2016 and reentered Stone’s orbit, helping with his travel schedule and bookings. She also had a baby named Carter Stone Davis. (Stone has publicly claimed that FBI agents have been asking his associates whether he’s the baby’s father.) See the original article for all the operatic weirdness and drama.

More at www.vox.com/2018/8/11/17675288/mueller-roger-stone-trump-russia-invest
igation

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Sunday, August 12, 2018 8:14 PM (P)

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A stunning report in The New Republic alleges that, whether Donald Trump knew it or not, for decades he made a large portion of his personal fortune from Russian mobsters & oligarchs.

THG

Monday, August 13, 2018 12:18 AM (P)

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SECOND

Monday, August 13, 2018 3:29 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THG:

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A stunning report in The New Republic alleges that, whether Donald Trump knew it or not, for decades he made a large portion of his personal fortune from Russian mobsters & oligarchs.

That was from last year, July 13th at
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump
-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

I've been betting that Trump evaded income taxes on that laundering scheme. If Mueller should happen to bring it up in his final report, the GOP will waive that aside as nothing important, but voters might not. Trump pays the back taxes and penalties, but might lose reelection. Who knows? Depends on how big a fraud he committed. He might blame it all on his accountant. I'm pretty sure there won't be any jail for Trump, no more than there was for Nixon, who actually did cheat on his taxes and blamed his accountant, who was charged with the crime that Nixon should have been charged with.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,945108,00.html
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2007/03/remembering_ric.html

"Mr. Morgan in November, pleaded guilty to charges of fraud relating to Mr. Nixon's tax returns and is serving a four-month jail sentence for this crime." Should have been Nixon in jail, but Morgan took the fall for his boss. You can be damn sure that Morgan was amply and secretly rewarded for his service to Nixon by some anonymous GOP donor.
www.nytimes.com/1975/02/20/archives/two-men-indicted-over-nixon-taxes-
lawyer-and-appraiser-are-accused.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 13, 2018 11:58 AM (P)

What good would 4 months of Nixon in jail have done for any American?

It's pretty ridiculous that he was able to have his accountant take the heat in the first place, yes, but at the end of the day 4 months in a white-collar resort for Nixon over that wouldn't have really affected his life at all.

It just goes to show what the 1%'ers can get away with that would absolutely ruin anybody in the 99% that got caught doing the same things.

Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky

https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, August 13, 2018 4:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What good would 4 months of Nixon in jail have done for any American?

It's pretty ridiculous that he was able to have his accountant take the heat in the first place, yes, but at the end of the day 4 months in a white-collar resort for Nixon over that wouldn't have really affected his life at all.

It just goes to show what the 1%'ers can get away with that would absolutely ruin anybody in the 99% that got caught doing the same things.

Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky

https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It took years and years before Mary Livingston, a federal archivist, could get anybody important to look into Nixon stealing $450,000. The same will happen with Trump. We're only 2 years into it. So if the Nixon example is followed then we've got at least 4 more years of important people looking the other way on Trump.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2007/03/remembering_ric.html

And then when it is all done, Nixon's accountant takes the fall for Nixon. Again, the important people who are suppose to enforce the law did what they could to protect Nixon. They couldn't stop a trial, but they could mislead a jury about who did what. And Nixon did not pay back all he owed because the legal reckoning was too slow. The statue of limitations kicked in.
www.nytimes.com/1975/02/20/archives/two-men-indicted-over-nixon-taxes-
lawyer-and-appraiser-are-accused.html

The same will happen with Trump, probably. After all the Sound and the Fury of Trump's Presidency, somebody other than Trump will pay the price. We already know the name of one important cheat who is protecting Trump from justice: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a California Republican.
www.cnn.com/2018/08/09/politics/devin-nunes-trump-congress-republican-
majority/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 13, 2018 7:20 PM (P)

OK.

I'll now refer you to the more important part of my post that you didn't address. I believe you'll find it a lot less one-sided than what you're going on about.

Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky

https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Monday, August 13, 2018 7:53 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OK.

I'll now refer you to the more important part of my post that you didn't address. I believe you'll find it a lot less one-sided than what you're going on about.

Quote:
If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. ~Noam Chomsky

https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You are mistaken about its importance. There are many Americans, none of them President, who also deserved hanging: "Killing Japanese didn't bother me very much at that time... I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal.... Every soldier thinks something of the moral aspects of what he is doing. But all war is immoral and if you let that bother you, you're not a good soldier."

-- General Curtis LeMay on the morality of the firebombing campaign. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Curtis_LeMay

What is the important thing to remember? Pick an American at random. Place them in danger. It doesn't have to be much. About half of the fearful Americans will go completely berserk and start killing women and children at random. Only about half of Americans understood that it was wrong to burn to death women and children with A-bombs. Only about half of the soldiers I was with in Vietnam understood it was wrong to murder South Vietnamese civilians. What kept the worst half of American soldiers under control was the better half.

6ixStringJack, if you haven't learned it by now, you probably never will, but about half of all Americans are completely crazy. Other people who have steadier minds keep the crazy ones under control. But with minimal pressure about half of Americans will do the craziest, most dishonest things they can imagine, if they think nobody will stop them.

To put a happy face on America, about half the citizens need to be in jobs that don't require maturity, self-control, or even much effort. Placed in a trying situation, they will crackup.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, August 13, 2018 8:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, if you haven't learned it by now, you probably never will, but about half of all Americans are completely crazy. Other people who have steadier minds keep the crazy ones under control. But with minimal pressure about half of Americans will do the craziest, most dishonest things they can imagine, if they think nobody will stop them.

That math works out in reference to this forum. Actually, we're on the less than crazy side, it just seems about half because the crazy ones talk so much. Kudos Firefly fans.

SECOND

Monday, August 13, 2018 8:21 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ixStringJack, if you haven't learned it by now, you probably never will, but about half of all Americans are completely crazy. Other people who have steadier minds keep the crazy ones under control. But with minimal pressure about half of Americans will do the craziest, most dishonest things they can imagine, if they think nobody will stop them.

That math works out in reference to this forum. Actually, we're on the less than crazy side, it just seems about half because the crazy ones talk so much. Kudos Firefly fans.

On fireflyfans.net, the Americans here who should never be in a position of authority can't actually do any harm. Trump can, but as luck would have it, he is stupider and lazier than Bush, so Trump has not found his own Afghanistan to invade by now. For awhile, North Korea looked like a good candidate. Maybe it will be Iran. Maybe Trump will go to a trade war with China. Who can know with that unsteady man? Plainly, even he doesn't know what he will do. He says, "We'll see" far too often to be a man that knows his own mind.

Trump has been talking about nuking people, going back and forth about it being a good idea or not. He is not alright in his head.
"Donald Trump's nuclear fixation - from the 1980s to now"
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40879868
"If Trump wants to use nuclear weapons, whether it’s ‘legal’ won’t matter"
www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/22/if-trump-want
s-to-use-nuclear-weapons-whether-its-legal-wont-matter/?utm_term=.b97f021b5a51

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What if the White House legal staff came up with their own arguments in favor of a rash attack? The past 50 years of American warfare has shown that presidents and their advisers have been able to come up with “just war” arguments for every military engagement, no matter how stretched in retrospect. Using a nuclear weapon on Pyongyang, for example, could be theoretically justified by arguing that it would be a legitimate military target (much of North Korea’s command and control infrastructure and leadership is probably located there) and that not doing it would be more consequential (in the same way that the use of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 was buttressed by arguments that ending World War II without a ground invasion of Japan saved lives). Would this reasoning stand up in a court of law? Would it ever come to a court of law? The lawyers making it would know it would never have to: The United States has a weak record on prosecuting its own service members for doing what they could argue they thought was right, whatever the consequences.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:57 AM (P)

Trump is losing his mind. Today's tweets:

“Seems like the Department of Justice (and FBI) had a program to keep Donald Trump from becoming President”. @DarrellIssa @foxandfriends If this had happened to the other side, everybody involved would be in jail. This is a Media coverup of the biggest story of our time.

Agent Peter Strzok was just fired from the FBI - finally. The list of bad players in the FBI & DOJ gets longer & longer. Based on the fact that Strzok was in charge of the Witch Hunt, will it be dropped? It is a total Hoax. No Collusion, No Obstruction - I just fight back!

Just fired Agent Strzok, formerly of the FBI, was in charge of the Crooked Hillary Clinton sham investigation. It was a total fraud on the American public and should be properly redone!

Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time. She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard.… ...really bad things. Nasty to people & would constantly miss meetings & work. When Gen. Kelly came on board he told me she was a loser & nothing but problems. I told him to try working it out, if possible, because she only said GREAT things about me - until she got fired!

While I know it’s “not presidential” to take on a lowlife like Omarosa, and while I would rather not be doing so, this is a modern day form of communication and I know the Fake News Media will be working overtime to make even Wacky Omarosa look legitimate as possible. Sorry!

Wacky Omarosa already has a fully signed Non-Disclosure Agreement! (Trump probably thinks the unhinged Trump stories in Omarosa's "Unhinged" book are illegal because Omarosa signed an agreement to not tattle-tale on his crazy days in the White House. She saw it all and wrote it down.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:06 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump is losing his mind. Today's tweets:

“Seems like the Department of Justice (and FBI) had a program to keep Donald Trump from becoming President”. @DarrellIssa @foxandfriends If this had happened to the other side, everybody involved would be in jail. This is a Media coverup of the biggest story of our time.

Agent Peter Strzok was just fired from the FBI - finally. The list of bad players in the FBI & DOJ gets longer & longer. Based on the fact that Strzok was in charge of the Witch Hunt, will it be dropped? It is a total Hoax. No Collusion, No Obstruction - I just fight back!

Just fired Agent Strzok, formerly of the FBI, was in charge of the Crooked Hillary Clinton sham investigation. It was a total fraud on the American public and should be properly redone!

Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time. She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard.… ...really bad things. Nasty to people & would constantly miss meetings & work. When Gen. Kelly came on board he told me she was a loser & nothing but problems. I told him to try working it out, if possible, because she only said GREAT things about me - until she got fired!

While I know it’s “not presidential” to take on a lowlife like Omarosa, and while I would rather not be doing so, this is a modern day form of communication and I know the Fake News Media will be working overtime to make even Wacky Omarosa look legitimate as possible. Sorry!

Wacky Omarosa already has a fully signed Non-Disclosure Agreement! (Trump probably thinks the unhinged Trump stories in Omarosa's "Unhinged" book are illegal because Omarosa signed an agreement to not tattle-tale on his crazy days in the White House. She saw it all and wrote it down.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

My, how presidential.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:24 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Dude, we get it.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,464 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001230

I doubt it.
If you got it, this thread would have withered away 18 months ago.

Yes, this useless delusional thread started 18 months ago today.

SECOND

Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Dude, we get it.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,464 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001230
I doubt it.
If you got it, this thread would have withered away 18 months ago.

Yes, this useless delusional thread started 18 months ago today.

Trump twitted https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1029183344397955074

.@MarkBurnettTV called to say that there are NO TAPES of the Apprentice where I used such a terrible and disgusting word (the N-word) as attributed by Wacky and Deranged Omarosa. I don’t have that word in my vocabulary, and never have. She made it up. Look at her MANY recent quotes saying.…....such wonderful and powerful things about me - a true Champion of Civil Rights - until she got fired. Omarosa had Zero credibility with the Media (they didn’t want interviews) when she worked in the White House. Now that she says bad about me, they will talk to her. Fake News!

Just because Mark Burnett, the executive producer of the Apprentice, doesn't know of any tapes doesn't mean anything. Mark didn't watch every moment on every tape BEFORE Trump was president. He didn't suddenly do it now.

There’s a pattern here. Trump praises someone who praise him, he hires them, they realize how horrible he is, they leave. And then he says they were horrible people. When will Trump’s followers catch on?

But even if Omarosa and her tapes say exactly what the president’s opponents want to hear — that he’s a racist, that he’s a bumbling idiot, that he has no control over his own White House — her “insider’s account” will never be as satisfying as the anti-Trump resistance might hope. The first problem is the source. Omarosa, like the president, is an opportunist built for and by reality television. Her willingness to do anything for notoriety, including but not limited to playing the villain on a corny game show and signing up for a role in a racist presidential administration, makes her an unreliable narrator.

The second problem is content. An N-word recording could serve as shorthand for Trump’s racism for those unwilling or unable to see the racism in his policies. And it would probably spur some Republican leaders to cut ties with Trump, at least temporarily, as they did when the Access Hollywood tape came out in October 2016. But there is reason to believe that an N-word tape wouldn’t torpedo Trump’s presidency, or even keep him from winning a second term. By this point, we shouldn’t need to hear Trump saying the N-word to become convinced that he considers black people second-class citizens. At the same time, no one who has supported him through his Obama birther fabrication, his insistence that the Central Park Five are guilty, and his defense of white supremacists as “very fine people” will turn against him because he used a racial slur.

This may be the one presidential administration (so far!) to render leaks and secret recordings almost entirely useless. Trump has no dignity to lose, and today’s White House has no positive reputation to sully. It would take a truly extraordinary story to convince us that Trump and his administration are worse than they appear from the outside. And for that story to have a meaningful impact, it would need to be delivered by someone other than a fame-obsessed huckster or an incompetent dummy or a white supremacist sympathizer. That’s a requirement that works in Trump’s favor because, by definition, almost everyone willing to accept a position under Trump fits snugly under those three umbrellas.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/08/omarosa-tapes-there-is-not
hing-the-former-trump-aide-can-say-or-do-that-could-possibly-matter.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, August 15, 2018 1:19 PM (P)

Only 2,450 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001230

JO753

Friday, August 17, 2018 3:05 PM (P)

Met a Trump supporter yesterday.

I wuz mailing out sum formz to run for Governor uv IL and the clerk at the post offis asked me if I wuz sentr, rite or left.

I told him I'd probably be considered left uv the Dem party by most peepl.

He sed he likes Trump and that the Russia investigation iz a hoax.

Altho he wuz polite, I think its not a bad idea for me to send another copy from a different post offis.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

SECOND

Friday, August 17, 2018 5:49 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,450 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001230

www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/real-enemy-of-the-
people-not-the-press-Trump-13159543.php

The president would have you believe that we — the reporters, editors, opinion writers, photographers, designers of the newspaper you are reading now — are your enemy.

He is only right if your friend is unchecked government power.

If your allies are corruption and misuse of taxpayer dollars. Biased grand juries and wrongful convictions. A state policy illegally denying special education services to thousands of Texas children. Short-sighted policies that worsened Harvey’s epic destruction. Unpoliced stockpiles of deadly chemicals across Houston that leave residents and first responders vulnerable.

These are the true enemies of everyday Americans. They are among the problems that journalists at the Houston Chronicle have worked to expose, to critique, to change.

President Trump’s hostile rhetoric — declaring journalists “very dishonest people,” and branding stories critical of his policies “fake news” — is concerning in a democratic republic that can’t survive without a free, vibrant and, yes, trusted, press.

Is Trump the first president to excoriate the news media? No.

Thomas Jefferson famously wrote “were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.” When the papers — which fell far short of today’s standards of fairness — began to attack Jefferson as president, he returned the insults. But he never stopped defending newspapers’ right to publish such offending words.

President Nixon had a list of press “enemies” audited, his Justice Department unsuccessfully sued The New York Times over the Pentagon Papers and he called reporting during Watergate “vicious, distorted.” President Obama said the right things supporting the news media’s role, but his administration was known to be opaque and his Justice Department prosecuted leakers and seized journalists’ phone records. The American Society of News Editors had to fight for access for photojournalists to cover Obama.

What makes Trump’s undermining of the press worse is that it’s not taking place in bureaucracy’s back rooms. Trump’s insults directed at reporters and news organizations, and his threats to limit press access and freedoms, are front and center at press conferences, at rallies, on Twitter. And they’re incessant.

Not only do they pose a danger to journalists’ safety — history tells us mere bias can progress to harsh words, to bullying and even to violence if society comes to accept the escalating forms of ridicule as normal — but there’s a more insidious threat. Trump’s broad brush undermines the collective credibility of thousands of American journalists across the country, and the world, who make up the Fourth Estate — so called for its watchdog role over the other three branches of government.

“The only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution,” as President Kennedy once said of the press.

The relationship between the press and power was never designed to be comfortable. No leader wants to have her actions questioned, his words scrutinized, her spending subject to open records laws.

How easy it would be for our elected officials to govern without that pesky impediment called the free press. But how easy it would be for an unhindered government to become a regime, for people deprived of information to become subjects, for individual freedoms to evaporate.

That impediment — a free press — is the most powerful tool Americans have to protect other constitutional rights. Without the press, how would you know if Congress one day decided to curtail your right to own a gun, or to vote? There would be no one to text you a breaking news alert.

The Founders understood that the First Amendment, prot

THG

Sunday, August 19, 2018 9:18 PM (P)

McGahn, White House Counsel, Has Cooperated Extensively in Mueller Inquiry

In at least three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months, Mr. McGahn described the president’s fury toward the Russia investigation and the ways in which he urged Mr. McGahn to respond to it. He provided the investigators examining whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice a clear view of the president’s most intimate moments with his lawyer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcgahn-white-house-counsel-has
-cooperated-extensively-in-mueller-inquiry/ar-BBM62vR

T

THG

Monday, August 20, 2018 4:12 AM (P)

T

Both Trump and Giuliani have now admitted the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians was to get dirt on Clinton. That's now both Trump and Giuliani admitting Trumps campaign colluded with the Russians. Opps....

THG

Monday, August 20, 2018 4:10 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

Wow. Case closed, Sherlock. I'm sure with your brilliant observation, Mueller will be wrapping up any day now.

He would if there was nothing there but he keeps finding Russians and rats under every rock. Boy you must feel stupid for posting no collusion all those times a kiki?

T

1KIKI

Monday, August 20, 2018 9:48 PM (P)

Doing opposition research isn't collusion.

Now, if Trump conspired to - hack voting machines, or buy off election officials - for example, that would be collusion.

Say, Hillary's campaign actually paid real money for dirt obtained from Russians and funneled through Steele. Do you think she should be investigated for collusion?

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, August 21, 2018 12:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Doing opposition research isn't collusion.

If members of your campaign sit down with Russians then yes it is.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Now, if Trump conspired to - hack voting machines, or buy off election officials - for example, that would be collusion.

Agreed. I wonder what he knew about any of that and when he knew it? Hard for me to fathom that if Putin tells the world (Helsinki) that he wanted Trump to win and that he directed his people to help, that Trump wouldn't have had that in one of the many conversations he had with Putin. Why else would Putin help Trump win unless you think Putin would do it and expect nothing in return?

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Say, Hillary's campaign actually paid real money for dirt obtained from Russians and funneled through Steele. Do you think she should be investigated for collusion?

No one from Hillary's campaign sat down with any Russians, did they? So no, she doesn't need to be investigated.
The Steel dossier started with Republican funding btw, "The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, initially retained the firm that conducted opposition research on Donald J. Trump" - maybe they should all be investigated?

1KIKI

Tuesday, August 21, 2018 12:38 AM (P)

"No one from Hillary's campaign sat down with any Russians, did they?"

They paid for someone to sit down with Russians, and got a 'dossier' to show for it. Smells like conspiracy to me. Maybe you need to look up the legal definition.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

THG

Tuesday, August 21, 2018 4:48 PM (P)

This is a no lie and spin zone comrade kiki. And lets remember, Trump is the one who currently holds office. Your continued argument that someone else did it too doesn't fly. Especially when that person has been investigated from a to z with nothing sticking.

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, August 21, 2018 8:08 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"No one from Hillary's campaign sat down with any Russians, did they?"

They paid for someone to sit down with Russians, and got a 'dossier' to show for it. Smells like conspiracy to me. Maybe you need to look up the legal definition.

So weak... it's like you don't care about the truth any more. That claim is easily debunked:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/09/did-hil
lary-clinton-collude-with-the-russians-to-get-dirt-on-trump-to-feed-it-to-the-fbi/?utm_term=.1f21cb48ebfe

"Now, let’s see if this material backs up Nunes’s claim: “Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians to get dirt on Trump to feed it to the FBI to open up an investigation into the other campaign.”

Based on the available evidence, this claim quickly falls apart.

The Clinton campaign, via a law firm, did seek “dirt” on Trump and Russia. Steele did rely on Russian sources, supposedly contacts mined from his years as a spy. Steele did actively seek to draw attention to what he had found, though virtually no reporters wrote about his allegations before the election because they could not confirm them. And the FBI did use Steele’s reports to help obtain a court order allowing surveillance of a Trump associate — but that was after Page had quit the campaign.

For some, that may seem like a lot of smoke. But it’s a huge leap to say Clinton colluded with Russians to do this. Instead, you have (a) the campaign hiring (b) a research firm that hired (c) a researcher who spoke (d) to Russian sources. Steele, for his part, has suggested he tried to alert reporters and the FBI because he was appalled by what he had discovered. The closest connection to Clinton is the fact that Steele gave to the FBI material written by Clinton associates, but it’s unclear what the FBI did with that memo.

Meanwhile, there is little dispute over the finding by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russia developed a clear preference for Trump — and that Russian entities hacked into Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign accounts to obtain emails that were then leaked to undermine her campaign. It certainly would have been a sophisticated game of three-dimensional chess for Russia to simultaneously seek to undermine Clinton’s campaign while supplying her with information to spur an investigation of Russian activities on behalf of Trump.

Finally, the Nunes memo disclosed that the FBI opened a counterintelligence operation in July 2016 because of allegations concerning another Trump adviser, George Papadopoulos. But Papadopoulos was never mentioned in any of Steele’s reports. He came to the attention of the FBI because he had told an Australian diplomat that the Russians had obtained thousands of Clinton’s emails. He has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and is cooperating with the special counsel.

Jack Langer, spokesman for the House Intelligence Committee, did not respond to queries about Nunes’s statement on the Hewitt show. But earlier in the week, we asked him why Nunes had said Papadopoulos “never even had met with the president” when Trump himself on March 31, 2016, had circulated on social media a photo of the two men together during a meeting of Trump’s foreign-policy advisers.

“Yes, there’s a photo of more than a dozen people sitting around a conference table, including Papadopoulos and Trump,” Langer replied. “But that does not make clear whether the two men knew each other at all.”

Presumably the same could be said for Clinton and Steele — especially since there is no known photo of the two together, let alone a known meeting.

The Pinocchio Test

Was the dossier used to gin up media attention to Russia-Trump ties and bolster an existing FBI investigation? Perhaps. That’s certainly a question worth exploring.

But the media needed little prodding to investigate when candidate Trump appeared unexpectedly solicitous of Russian President Vladimir Putin as Russian-linked entities leaked emails stolen by Russian hackers

THG

Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:09 AM (P)

tick tock tick tock

T

SECOND

Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:30 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

So weak... it's like you don't care about the truth any more. That claim is easily debunked:

www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/09/did-hillary-cli
nton-collude-with-the-russians-to-get-dirt-on-trump-to-feed-it-to-the-fbi/?utm_term=.1f21cb48ebfe

1kiki will not accept the Washington Post's Factchecker explaining that this accusation is dead and buried. It won't be long before the same false accusation will be used again. Zombie arguments/accusations keep shambling forward, unstoppable. Give 1kiki a little time to reanimate this one.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Friday, August 24, 2018 5:25 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

So weak... it's like you don't care about the truth any more. That claim is easily debunked:

www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/02/09/did-hillary-cli
nton-collude-with-the-russians-to-get-dirt-on-trump-to-feed-it-to-the-fbi/?utm_term=.1f21cb48ebfe

1kiki will not accept the Washington Post's Factchecker explaining that this accusation is dead and buried. It won't be long before the same false accusation will be used again. Zombie arguments/accusations keep shambling forward, unstoppable. Give 1kiki a little time to reanimate this one.

Approval of Special Counsel Robert Mueller stands at 59 percent, up 11 points since July, and 40 percent expect the investigation will find Trump committed criminal or impeachable offenses, up 5 points.

T

1KIKI

Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:29 PM (P)

Tsk tsk, GEEBERS. Misrepresenting my posts - AGAIN. If you read what I posted, I said *if* Trump colluded, *then* so did Hillary. And btw, the WaPo article contains many unevidenced claims, a few of which are perilously close to similar claims about Iraq's WMDs.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

THG

Saturday, August 25, 2018 6:45 PM (P)

T

The President Donald Trump Has Surrounded Himself With Criminals

SECOND

Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:01 PM (P)

It's no coincidence that Trump is surrounded by criminals.

Why did the president who planned to hire "the best people" end up surrounded by moochers, grifters, and criminals?

Because working for Trump is horrible and unfulfilling — unless you plan to use the job as an opportunity to stuff everything you can in your pockets, and then you might think Trump's combination of no ethics and no supervision will work to your advantage.

More at www.businessinsider.com/trump-surrounded-by-criminals-michael-cohen-pa
ul-manafort-2018-8

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Saturday, August 25, 2018 10:35 PM (P)

Everybodyz tokking impeachment now.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Sunday, August 26, 2018 12:19 AM (P)

I've heard some talk of "resigning." With the new criminal exposure for Trump Foundation and Organization and the parade of flippers, people are noticing how the Trump vermin are now left out in the open. Would he quit to protect them? Or throw them under the bus and let them do time? Would resigning protect them even? Could he make a deal that would protect them "for the good of the country??"
And, is it better for the Dems to have the nation keep witnessing Trump's public implosion and the GOP's complete worthlessness, something an impeachment might take away? As hard as it is to imagine, Trump on trial might actually make him seem sympathetic... I know, super hard to believe!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:00 AM (P)

I think it's great. We get to witness all that you said as well as continually witnessing how juvenile, petty and hypocritical the Left is about everything too.

I hope that Trump destroys both parties when it's all said and done. This government needs an enema.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:01 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I've heard some talk of "resigning." With the new criminal exposure for Trump Foundation and Organization and the parade of flippers, people are noticing how the Trump vermin are now left out in the open. Would he quit to protect them? Or throw them under the bus and let them do time? Would resigning protect them even? Could he make a deal that would protect them "for the good of the country??"
And, is it better for the Dems to have the nation keep witnessing Trump's public implosion and the GOP's complete worthlessness, something an impeachment might take away? As hard as it is to imagine, Trump on trial might actually make him seem sympathetic... I know, super hard to believe!

Trump would throw his own family under the bus to protect himself. We may actually get to see him do that.

T

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:17 AM (P)

Only 2,440 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001286

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, August 26, 2018 5:24 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's great. We get to witness all that you said as well as continually witnessing how juvenile, petty and hypocritical the Left is about everything too.

This government needs an enema.

You finally understand the meaning of Draining The Swamp.

And you see he is doing it, too.

Although Trump, Manafort, have not committed any crimes since 2014 (lifelong Democrat Cohen has not committed any crimes since becoming Republican in 2017 - after Tax Evasion for 5 years 2012-2016 as Democrat), watching Libtards display their hypocrisy can be gratifying.
Knowing that Hilliary's Gang of Criminals and Thugs have obviously committed scores of Felonies and Treasons, their pretext is that they haven't noticed.

THG

Sunday, August 26, 2018 6:44 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

How many days did your "Countdown Clock" have on it? It's been 98 days now. Or are you planning on a 3,000 Day Countdown?

It depends on what charge leads the way and how long it takes to compile a case. I think it will most likely be corruption charges. Perhaps tax fraud or money laundering. Trumps actions have allowed for the investigation to go anywhere Trump exhibited questionable behavior. Do you remember Ken Starr? The Clinton investigation started out looking into a real estate deal. Clinton wound up being impeached for lying about an affair.

Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime. Are you willing to put money on that?

T

THG

Sunday, August 26, 2018 8:01 PM (P)

Fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pled guilty.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 26, 2018 11:56 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's great. We get to witness all that you said as well as continually witnessing how juvenile, petty and hypocritical the Left is about everything too.

This government needs an enema.
You finally understand the meaning of Draining The Swamp.

And you see he is doing it, too.

Although Trump, Manafort, have not committed any crimes since 2014 (lifelong Democrat Cohen has not committed any crimes since becoming Republican in 2017 - after Tax Evasion for 5 years 2012-2016 as Democrat), watching Libtards display their hypocrisy can be gratifying.
Knowing that Hilliary's Gang of Criminals and Thugs have obviously committed scores of Felonies and Treasons, their pretext is that they haven't noticed.

What do you mean finally?

Even though I don't personally care much for Trump the longer he stays in office, this is the one thing that I've said had been going on since the start. High level government people on both sides of the aisle have been exposed for corruption, quit on their laughable moral grounds or just fired for plain incompetence at record numbers in the last 2 years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 26, 2018 11:58 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pled guilty.

T

Going to need a cite from an unbiased source to back that one up, bud.

Good luck finding one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, August 27, 2018 12:35 AM (P)

Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

T

1KIKI

Monday, August 27, 2018 12:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I've heard some talk of "resigning." With the new criminal exposure for Trump Foundation and Organization and the parade of flippers, people are noticing how the Trump vermin are now left out in the open. Would he quit to protect them? Or throw them under the bus and let them do time? Would resigning protect them even? Could he make a deal that would protect them "for the good of the country??"
And, is it better for the Dems to have the nation keep witnessing Trump's public implosion and the GOP's complete worthlessness, something an impeachment might take away? As hard as it is to imagine, Trump on trial might actually make him seem sympathetic... I know, super hard to believe!

A sitting President can't be indicted on criminal charges. If Trump has a plan, why should he quit when he has a tremendous grace period to continue his work?

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 27, 2018 1:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

It was really a rhetorical question thrown your way. I'm confident that there aren't any seriously unbiased sites that would back up your statistic that you pulled out of your ass there.

One would imagine that any site that does back up that claim today is one of the very same sites that had Hillary winning by a landslide 2 years ago at this time.

Just because you don't demand better from your mainstream media doesn't mean that everybody can just go around throwing out false statements and expect to be taken seriously when they do.

And by the way man... why so angry and mean all the time? You really need to relax.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Monday, August 27, 2018 1:18 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I've heard some talk of "resigning." With the new criminal exposure for Trump Foundation and Organization and the parade of flippers, people are noticing how the Trump vermin are now left out in the open. Would he quit to protect them? Or throw them under the bus and let them do time? Would resigning protect them even? Could he make a deal that would protect them "for the good of the country??"
And, is it better for the Dems to have the nation keep witnessing Trump's public implosion and the GOP's complete worthlessness, something an impeachment might take away? As hard as it is to imagine, Trump on trial might actually make him seem sympathetic... I know, super hard to believe!
A sitting President can't be indicted on criminal charges. If Trump has a plan, why should he quit when he has a tremendous grace period to continue his work?

A sitting president can be impeached and "face the possibility of conviction via legislative vote, which then entails the removal of the individual from office." - wikipedia

Why would he resign? It's a long shot, but he might for a similar reason Nixon resigned: pressure from his party. Yes, that seems very unlikely, but Trump isn't done insulting everyone in the world that could do himself and "his" party harm, and we have yet to hear from Mueller who may have some evidence of some explosive wrong doing. So who knows - the situation is fluid. If you believe as I do that Trump is definitely not a quitter, that he'd rather spend the rest of his first term effortlessly, shamelessly spinning lies, then what is fascinating to think of is if he were impeached and found guilty, how would they remove him if he said, "I'm not leaving! Come and get me" What the heck would that look like?!?

1KIKI

Monday, August 27, 2018 1:29 AM (P)

Why should he quit when he can take his time waiting for an impeachment - AND REMOVAL FROM OFFICE - which will not happen in his first term?

You keep making bogus statements that you have to abandon with your very next bogus statement. At this point, I'm just going to flag them as bogus and not bother responding in particular.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

THG

Monday, August 27, 2018 2:07 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

It was really a rhetorical question thrown your way. I'm confident that there aren't any seriously unbiased sites that would back up your statistic that you pulled out of your ass there.

One would imagine that any site that does back up that claim today is one of the very same sites that had Hillary winning by a landslide 2 years ago at this time.

Just because you don't demand better from your mainstream media doesn't mean that everybody can just go around throwing out false statements and expect to be taken seriously when they do.

And by the way man... why so angry and mean all the time? You really need to relax.

"And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-trump-approva
l-remarkably-stable-after-stormy-week-n903626

It's just to easy proving you to be a moron Jack. Thanks for continuing to give me so many opportunities.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 27, 2018 3:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

It was really a rhetorical question thrown your way. I'm confident that there aren't any seriously unbiased sites that would back up your statistic that you pulled out of your ass there.

One would imagine that any site that does back up that claim today is one of the very same sites that had Hillary winning by a landslide 2 years ago at this time.

Just because you don't demand better from your mainstream media doesn't mean that everybody can just go around throwing out false statements and expect to be taken seriously when they do.

And by the way man... why so angry and mean all the time? You really need to relax.

"And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-trump-approva
l-remarkably-stable-after-stormy-week-n903626

It's just to easy proving you to be a moron Jack. Thanks for continuing to give me so many opportunities.

T

The article is pretty convoluted and states several polls. The quote you put here doesn't specify which poll in question, nor are there any links to the polls themselves or information about the demographics that were polled.

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

If we're going to talk seriously about any polling, they need to link to the actual polls, or do better when showing the demographics of the polling. This doesn't cut it:

Quote:
The earlier NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll surveyed 900 registered voters between Aug. 18-22, 2018. The margin of error is +/- 3.27 percent.

The second NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll surveyed 600 registered voters between Aug. 22-25, 2018. The margin of error is +/- 4.00 percent.

The entire article implies that there was an equal polling of demographics here, but nowhere does the polling information state that this is the case.

This is why all the polling results for Hillary Clinton's loss were so off base from reality.

Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to put on display how easily you are swayed by the media when it tells you want to hear and how superficial you are when it comes to actually verifying any journalistic integrity of your sources. You haven't even bothered to scratch the surface here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, August 27, 2018 4:18 AM (P)

With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 27, 2018 4:48 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Monday, August 27, 2018 8:23 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

SECOND

Monday, August 27, 2018 8:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

In the final analysis, Trump is safe while he is President and there are 34 GOP Senators. But there will be a popularity vote in 2020 on whether Trump remains President. And Trump's legal problems will affect that vote a tiny bit. If he loses and becomes a civilian again, rather than dropping dead from a stroke or heart attack, he will not be safe from his legal problems as President, despite him pardoning himself.

I hope the day comes when Trump regrets being elected. He is not there yet:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Over 90% approval rating for your all time favorite (I hope) President within the Republican Party and 52% overall. This despite all of the made up stories by the Fake News Media trying endlessly to make me look as bad and evil as possible. Look at the real villains please!
5:39 PM - 26 Aug 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1033876658439245825

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 28, 2018 1:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Tuesday, August 28, 2018 2:23 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:

Jack

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Wrong. I am quoting you above.

Dummy...

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 28, 2018 2:58 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:

Jack

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Wrong. I am quoting you above.

Dummy...

T

Yup. So you are.

I quoted that from the article that you linked.

Read it for the first time, since you obviously haven't read it yet and then we'll have a discussion.

Nice guy that I am, I'll even give you a hint. It's about 12 to 14 paragraphs down from the beginning of the article.

You do realize that you can scroll down and read more, right? They even have these great computer mice with scroll buttons so you don't have to manually use

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:08 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Why should he quit when he can take his time waiting for an impeachment - AND REMOVAL FROM OFFICE - which will not happen in his first term?

You keep making bogus statements that you have to abandon with your very next bogus statement. At this point, I'm just going to flag them as bogus and not bother responding in particular.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

methinks you spend far too much time feeding the Trolls already. Sorry I can't spend more time here to balance out the Trolls.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:19 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.
OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix might be confused.

It is a proven fact that Liberals have an average IQ below 90.

OK, now that that is posted on algore's interwebs it is now Fact, and can be referenced by others as a valid source. And if somebody else mentions it, I can then refer to their mention as a source, and in fact can state that their mention is a basis for my statement.
That is how journalism works for Liberals, for many decades now.
Get it?

1KIKI

Tuesday, August 28, 2018 11:08 AM (P)

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Survey
August 18-22, 2018
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/today/z_creative/18798NBCWSJAugustPoll.p
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NBC News/Wall Street Journal Survey
August 22-25, 2018
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/today/z_creative/18852NBCWSJAugustN=600F
lashPoll.pdf

WASHINGTON — After a week that saw President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman convicted on eight counts of fraud and his former lawyer plead guilty to felony campaign finance charges, the president's job approval rating remains virtually unchanged, new polling from NBC News and The Wall Street Journal shows.

But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Between Aug. 18 and Aug. 22 — the day after the news involving former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former Trump attorney Michael Cohen — the president's approval rating stood at 46 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove.

In a separate NBC/WSJ survey, conducted Aug. 22 through Aug. 25, Trump's approval rating was 44 percent approve and 52 percent disapprove. That's within the poll's margin of error.

Republican pollster Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies, who conducted this survey with Democratic pollster Peter Hart and his team at Hart Research Associates, called Trump's approval rating "remarkably stable" despite the Manafort and Cohen developments, both of which became public on the same afternoon last Tuesday.

Hart added that, for Democrats hoping to craft a midterm election strategy, the week's news thus far "represents a fool's-gold opportunity rather than a silver-bullet solution."

NBC News and The Wall Street Journal originally planned to survey respondents from Saturday, Aug. 18 thru Wednesday, Aug. 22. But after the Aug. 21 conviction of Manafort on tax and fraud charges — and the news that Cohen is cooperating with federal prosecutors after his guilty plea— the news organizations took the unusual step of commissioning an additional poll of 600 respondents from Wednesday, Aug. 22 to Saturday, Aug. 25. That second poll included questions about Manafort and Cohen as well as a look at the president’s approval rating after the new developments.

Despite the durability of Trump's approval even after one of the most dire weeks of his presidency, most voters are not convinced that Trump himself is completely insulated from the legal woes of his associates.

Asked if they believe that the six Trump associates who have pleaded guilty or been found guilty of crimes signals only that those individuals committed crimes or that Trump himself may have participated in wrongdoing, 27 percent cite just the individuals (not Trump), 40 percent say Trump may be involved with potential wrongdoing and 30 percent don't know.

A majority of voters also say that Trump has not been honest and truthful when it comes to the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Twenty-one percent strongly agree that he has been honest and truthful, 17 percent agree somewhat, 10 percent disagree somewhat and a plurality — 46 percent — disagree strongly.

Inside those numbers, however, there's some evidence that Republican defense of Trump's truthfulness is relatively soft. Among Democrats, 81 percent strongly disagree that Trump has been honest. Among Republicans, just 46 percent strongly agree that he has been honest.

And just about half (53 percent) of Republicans say that the guilty pleas by Trump's associates are limited only to those individuals and not the president, while a third — 35 percent — don't know enough to say.

Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

The Manafort and th

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:26 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:

Jack

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Wrong. I am quoting you above.

Dummy...

T

Yup. So you are.

I quoted that from the article that you linked.

Read it for the first time, since you obviously haven't read it yet and then we'll have a discussion.

Nice guy that I am, I'll even give you a hint. It's about 12 to 14 paragraphs down from the beginning of the article.

You do realize that you can scroll down and read more, right? They even have these great computer mice with scrol

1KIKI

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:13 AM (P)

I think THUGGER might be confused by the shifting baselines used in the descriptions. Let's say I run a poll and the results are: 1/3 think the earth is flat, 1/3 think the earth is a globe, and 1/3 aren't sure. I could state "a minority thinks the earth is a globe", or I could state "an overwhelming majority aren't convinced the earth is flat". Same numbers, and both are completely accurate summaries, but you get a different impression from each.

That's why it's FAR better to access the actual polls (what questions were asked, in what context, what categories were given), as well as the actual numbers.

What I found interesting is that opinions about Trump have remained steady over MONTHS. But only the most recent numbers were discussed, as if they were, somehow, 'new's - as if they were the newest thing that was different and worthy of attention. Also, people who think the investigation should be wrapped up soon increased beyond the margin of error, as a result of lower within error numbers of "weren't sure/ had no opinion", and lower within error numbers of "continue".

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

THG

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:21 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:

Jack

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Wrong. I am quoting you above.

Dummy...

T

Yup. So you are.

I quoted that from the article that you linked.

Read it for the first time, since you obviously haven't read it yet and then we'll have a discussion.

Nice guy that I am, I'll even give you a hint. It's about 12 to 14 paragraphs down from the beginning of the article.

You do realize that you can scroll down and read more, right? They even have these great computer mice with scrol

JO753

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:21 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Let's say I run a poll and the results are: 1/3 think the earth is flat, 1/3 think the earth is a globe, and 1/3 aren't sure.

You forgot the .1% hoo think the Earth iz a cube.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 5:58 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:

Jack

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Wrong. I am quoting you above.

Dummy...

T

Yup. So you are.

I quoted that from the article that you linked.

Read it for the first time, since you obviously haven't read it yet and then we'll have a discussion.

Nice guy that I am, I'll even give you a hint. It's about 12 to 14 paragraphs down from the beginning of the article.

You do realize that you can scroll down and read more, right? They even have

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 5:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
With you and others here Jack it's always, first it's this, others respond, then it's that. That's what trolls and malcontents do. All the information in that post and again you are incapable of ascertaining anything from it.

T

Your post here means nothing.

I showed you why the logic of the article is flawed.

If you disagree with it, then prove me wrong.

Giving everybody here your opinions and your personal thoughts about me is not a valid argument.

OK. Every once in a while I don't mind taking you to school, rather than ignore the ignorance you spew. The section I've quoted twice and now for the third time goes like this. "But the stability in Trump's approval rating also comes as more than half of voters say he has not been honest and truthful regarding the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. And fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty."

Now look at the section I've underlined. It says fewer than three in ten voters Jack. Not three in ten democratic voters as you've suggested. Another key word Jack is fewer. That means less than three in ten are convinced that Trump is not implicated in wrong doing.

Dummy...

T

The quote I put in there about Democrats is in the same article, and I only mention it because the article can't seem to make up its own mind about the facts. I didn't "suggest" it. The article you linked did.

I can't say I'm surprised that you didn't see it there after two supposed readings. I know your ADHD usually only allows you to read a headline, so congrats on actually getting as far as you did.

If you'd actually like to read the entire article you posted, I'll be happy to continue to discuss this with you. Until then, you have no argument.

And until you acknowledge you were wrong and the quote that I cited is in there and apologize for your insults, I know you haven't actually read the article.

Have a nice day. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Quote:

Jack

The only thing in the article that correlates with the quote you put here is this other quote:

Quote:
Among Democrats, 71 percent say that Trump may be implicated in wrongdoing.

That right there changes the narrative entirely. The quote you put here should have read "Among Democrats, fewer than three-in-ten voters are convinced that Trump himself is not implicated in the wrongdoing of the six of his associates who have now either been convicted of crimes or have pleaded guilty.

Wrong. I am quoting you above.

Dummy...

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Yup. So you are.

I quoted that from the article that you linked.

Read it for the first time, since you obviously haven't read it yet and then we'll have a discussion.

Nice guy that I am, I'll even give you a hint. It's about 12 to 14 paragraphs down from the beginning of the article.

You do realize that you can scroll down and read more, right? They even have

SECOND

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Let's say I run a poll and the results are: 1/3 think the earth is flat, 1/3 think the earth is a globe, and 1/3 aren't sure.

You forgot the .1% hoo think the Earth iz a cube.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com

The only poll that counts is the poll of the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

There is a single question on the poll: "Are you A) Republican? or B) Democrat?"

If the answer is A) then Trump voters can ignore impeachment talk and can disregard all evidence. If the answer is B) then there is a second poll to be taken of Senators.

It also only has one question, the same question: "Are you A) Republican? or B) Democrat?"

If the answer is A) for 34 or more Senators, then Trump voters can ignore impeachment talk and can disregard all evidence. On the other hand, Trump does not understand polls, so he is always freaked out by every little development. Trump talks like a mob boss — and reminds us he has no idea what he’s doing. Someday we may want a president who knows what he’s talking about.
www.vox.com/2018/8/23/17772990/trump-fox-and-friends-transcript

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:44 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Someday we may want a president who knows what he’s talking about.

Haven't seen one yet in my lifetime.

You're older than I am though. Maybe you have.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:04 PM (P)

JO753 for president!!!

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SIGNYM

Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:02 PM (P)

Quote:
The Case Against Impeaching Trump
- Alan Dershowitz

Alan Dershowitz has been called “one of the most prominent and consistent defenders of civil liberties in America” by Politico and “the nation’s most peripatetic civil liberties lawyer and one of its most distinguished defenders of individual rights” by Newsweek. Yet he has come under partisan fire for applying those same principles to Donald Trump during the course of his many appearances in national media outlets as an expert resource on civil and constitutional law...

“In the fervor to impeach President Trump, his political enemies have ignored the text of the Constitution. As a civil libertarian who voted against Trump, I remind those who would impeach him not to run roughshod over a document that has protected us all for two and a quarter centuries. In this case against impeachment, I make arguments similar to those I made against the impeachment of President Bill Clinton (and that I would be making had Hillary Clinton been elected and Republicans were seeking to impeach her). Impeachment and removal of a president are not entirely political decisions by Congress. Every member takes an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution sets out specific substantive criteria that MUST be met.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

SECOND

Thursday, August 30, 2018 11:32 PM (P)

Today’s Crazy Trump Tweet:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

What’s going on at @CNN is happening, to different degrees, at other networks - with @NBCNews being the worst. The good news is that Andy Lack(y) is about to be fired(?) for incompetence, and much worse. When Lester Holt got caught fudging my tape on Russia, they were hurt badly!
6:02 AM - Aug 30, 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1035120511259500544

I’m sure you haven’t forgotten this, but here’s the tape of Trump’s interview with Lester Holt shortly after he fired James Comey:

This was basically an admission that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. It’s been out there for more than a year, just sitting around for everyone to hear over and over and over: a bald admission that Trump obstructed justice. For some reason Trump never seemed to understand just how badly he had incriminated himself in this interview, but it sounds like maybe one of his lawyers finally got through to him. So now there’s a new story: Lester Holt fudged the tape!

This is, needless to say, ridiculous and unhinged. Trump must be completely freaked out at this point, and after telling this absurd lie about fudging the tape his lawyers must be freaked out too. Telling an obvious tall tale in an effort to discredit a piece of damaging evidence does nothing except make the evidence even more damaging in a court of law. This whole thing is really starting to come unraveled.

THG

Friday, August 31, 2018 7:47 PM (P)

New York’s attorney general says Trump Foundation bankrolled political campaign, pursues lawsuit

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/new-yorks-attorney-general-says-
trump-foundation-bankrolled-political-campaign-pursues-lawsuit

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, September 2, 2018 3:06 AM (P)

Quote:

Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

T

Somebody doth protest too much.
Protesting request of cites.
Suggesting cites can only come from Fake News sources.
Failing to comprehend that admission that no valid cites or sources exist.

THG

Sunday, September 2, 2018 3:15 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

T
Somebody doth protest too much.
Protesting request of cites.
Suggesting cites can only come from Fake News sources.
Failing to comprehend that admission that no valid cites or sources exist.

Here we go folks. Moron number two. Have someone you know with half a brain explain to you what my post means. Your response shows me you don't have a clue.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, September 3, 2018 1:21 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Jack wants cites. The same Jack that claims all mainstream media is fake news. Now that's ironic. Isn't that ironic? I think that's ironic. What a fucking moron. Thanks for the laugh Jack.

T
Somebody doth protest too much.
Protesting request of cites.
Suggesting cites can only come from Fake News sources.
Failing to comprehend that admission that no valid cites or sources exist.

Of course, if any valid cites existed, they could have been readily produced, without resorting to Fake News.

THG

Monday, September 3, 2018 1:26 AM (P)

Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos said both Attorney General Jeff Sessions and President Trump supported his proposition that Trump meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin during the 2016 campaign, according to court documents filed late Friday night.

Opps...That would mean Sessions lied under oath. Not once but many times. Was that the big news Chuck Todd spoke about? I think that's big news don't you?

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THG

Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:30 AM (P)

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Giuliani says Trump will try to block Mueller’s report. Could it work? Washington Post

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:27 PM (P)

Only 2,429 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001286

SECOND

Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:30 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,429 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001286

Imperious, impatient and immature, Donald Trump is the King Baby of presidents, a man who is incapable of rising to the demands of the most important job on earth.

How exciting!

THG

Saturday, September 8, 2018 8:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,429 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 001286
Imperious, impatient and immature, Donald Trump is the King Baby of presidents, a man who is incapable of rising to the demands of the most important job on earth.

How exciting!

59 days, tick tock

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, September 8, 2018 10:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
59 days, tick tock

T

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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