What "THEY'VE" done to us and it's worse than Paxilon Hydrochlorate (HA, I'M RIGHT, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...SULFUR AND AUTISM ARE LINKED)

POSTED BY: Wishimay
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 05:07
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WISHIMAY

Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:59 AM

A new report from the advocacy group Autism Speaks looks at how and why the neurodevelopmental disorder may be linked to other health problems, including difficulty sleeping, digestive distress, epilepsy, attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), eating challenges, depression, bipolar disorder and anxiety..

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/autism-report-disorder-linked-to-many-heal
th-issues/

Ok, for years now the medical community has been saying certain neurological disorders are connective tissue disorders. Connective tissue holds together every part of our body together, even fat and brain. The tissue in different parts can be too loose OR too tight, with varying effects. In the lungs you get asthma, in the skin you may get eczema...

I am Dyspraxic (variable neuro-motor disorder) and I have a connective tissue joint problem. I have a sulfite intolerance as well. ( just learned my aunt and my cousin have Sulfa drug allergies a few minutes ago)

My spouse has Aspergers and a nickel sulfate intolerance. His mother is allergic to sulfa drugs, and his father to onions (high sulfur)

My neighbor is Bi-polar and has diabetes and her mother was allergic to corn (high amounts of sulfur)

What I am saying is that sulfur is in more foods now than at any time in HISTORY. It is in literally 90% of processed foods, and half of all natural foods. Anywhere you see SULF it means there is a sulfur ion in that food.

>>>>>>>>>>* WE ARE ALL OVERDOSING ON IT EVERY DAY. *<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

It is a drug. It kills bacteria. It is used in pesticides and gunpowder. It is an irritant and breathing it in can cause your lungs to cease function. It is used in medicine (sulfa drugs) to prevent bacteria from multiplying.

It also makes bread fluffier, and foods last longer on the shelf.

It ALSO dries out the systems of people with connective tissue disorders and the body responds by holding on to as much fat as it can to compensate and soothe the inflammation. In turn the fat uses the sulfur to make more connective tissue to store MORE FAT. More fat means more sulfur, until you hit overload and cause massive damage to various body systems. It just depends on where your connective tissue DNA is weak...

Just imagine rubbing sulfur and salt on your skin for a minute. What do you think that does to your intestines??

>>>>> *IT IS WHY THE OBESITY RATES HAVE GONE UP SO FAR *<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Sulfur is used in the body to create and repair connective tissues, even in utero it forms the brain, and if you cannot process it correctly?? It causes neurological issues in the child because the connections between neurons vary during formation. Connections that vary cause disorders that vary from day to day, which would explain why bi-polars are ok one day and not the next, why A.D.D. people have good days and bad days, because the brain isn't stationary, it moves slightly when it has defective connective tissue....which means that the neurons align better some days than others!

>>>>>>>>>>* IT IS WHY AUTISM RATES HAVE GONE UP *<<<<<<<<<<<

How is this possible?? Food intolerances can build for YEARS without ANY SYMPTOMS ....WHAT..SO..EVER. The only symptom I had for two decades was occasional headaches and ONE rash. There is a report that five percent of men and nine percent of women have experienced adverse and unusual reactions to alcohol... ALCOHOL CONTAINS A TON OF SULFITES TO KEEP IT FROM SPOILING.

If I am right, if you factor in all the people who don't drink...

OVER 20 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION HAS A SULFUR/SULFITE/SULFATE INTOLERANCE!

I know I've been harping this to death, but I truly believe it is a major problem. I don't know where to send this or what to do with it, so if anyone has any ideas...I'd l

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, April 28, 2017 5:32 AM

I just did a search for the difference between Sodium and Sulfur (rusty on the chemicals) and it turns out they make batteries.

WISHIMAY

Friday, April 28, 2017 7:20 AM

And we EAT IT...

I found out last night that the myelin in the brain is formed from a type of sulfate, so... smoking gun here...

Obviously if the DNA can't handle it there will be problems...

UPDATE! PROVED RIGHT!

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-02-links-autism-specific-cell-pave
s.html

People with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) appear to suffer malfunctions in a cell that produces a special coating around nerve fibers that facilitates efficient electrical communication across the brain. And correcting it could offer a potential new avenue for treatment, according to a new study published today in the journal Nature Neuroscience from scientists at the Lieber Institute for Brain Development (LIBD).

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:44 AM

I have mentioned this before, but I'm not sure if it was to you: The film Lorenzo's Oil, based on true story and revolving around the loss of myelin, gives good background on it. It's like the insulator around wires, but in the body it insulates the chemicals which are transferring electricity, otherwise the electrical signals get grounded out.

WISHIMAY

Monday, May 1, 2017 11:50 PM

Yes, I've heard of it.

I think if sulfites were reduced to maybe a quarter of current levels that Autism, ADD, Asthma, Eczema, EDS and all the other related issues could be reduced by HALF. I don't think these issues could be completely eradicated, because DNA will always find a way to mutate. And I think there will always be people who eat crap while pregnant, get drunk, do drugs...

The first step here is to developing better tests. Right now there is only an inaccurate experimental test.

Even without testing, if pregnant women who have health issues themselves, or who were overweight were recommended to reduce their sulfite consumption levels, I think it could make an impact now. I've dropped 30 lbs just taking out sulfites, and I still eat plenty.

Not that this country understands ANYTHING well, much less healthy eating...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yes, I've heard of it.

I think if sulfites were reduced to maybe a quarter of current levels that Autism, ADD, Asthma, Eczema, EDS and all the other related issues could be reduced by HALF. I don't think these issues could be completely eradicated, because DNA will always find a way to mutate. And I think there will always be people who eat crap while pregnant, get drunk, do drugs...

The first step here is to developing better tests. Right now there is only an inaccurate experimental test.

Even without testing, if pregnant women who have health issues themselves, or who were overweight were recommended to reduce their sulfite consumption levels, I think it could make an impact now. I've dropped 30 lbs just taking out sulfites, and I still eat plenty.

Not that this country understands ANYTHING well, much less healthy eating...

How long ago did you start taking out sulfites, and are you still losing weight, or how long did it take to lose 30 lbs.? Were there other dietary changes at the same time?

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, May 2, 2017 7:03 AM

Two YEARS. Apparently, your body stores the sulfites up and once you stop consuming them your systems start scavenging them from your fat, but it takes a while ...Every other woman I've met that went off sulfites has lost weight, and one of them now fits into her 6 yr old granddaughters clothes (she was NEVER able to lose weight, but now that she can I think she's maybe taken it too far, but she seems happy).

I lost it from my lower arms and legs and then my stomach. I can see the musculature underneath that I haven't seen since high school (I had great abs at one time). I also had to start exfoliating every other day, either because the sulfites slow skin cell growth or because the dead cells were coming through my skin. I feel like I am slowly shedding my old dumb self.

Ironically, I brought hubby along for the ride and his thyroid tumor has shrunk, and he's lost a few (can't get him to give up pork completely).
THEN we figured out that his metal allergy was in fact a sulfate issue, because they add sulfates to most metals these days to get them to harden faster.

BTW, I know a half dozen other people that the autism-sulf link appears in as well, but didn't want to bog down the finer points....

AURAPTOR

Thursday, August 24, 2017 4:15 PM

No, this isn't worse than turning folks into Reavers.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:02 PM

Here are your choices...DEAD....REAVER....or AUTISM AND LIFELONG CHRONIC HEALTH PROBLEMS.

DO you know how many people would pick dead or reaver???

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 25, 2017 12:42 AM

we all die, there are no Reavers, and I'm fine.

Me thinks what ever hysteria you're going on about only affects a tiny fraction of a % of the population, if any at all.

Meh.

WISHIMAY

Friday, August 25, 2017 7:47 AM

I now know a 8 people personally that have problems with it. Which is more than I ever knew with a gluten problem.
I don't believe it IS a small section of the population. Time will prove me right.

What do I care what you think, you don't even have a clue what I'm talking about anyway....

AURAPTOR

Friday, August 25, 2017 7:55 AM

Don't know AND don't care !

A coveted double !

WISHIMAY

Friday, August 25, 2017 9:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Don't know AND don't care !

And you do your anti-science, anti-critical thinking skill brethren PROUD, yet again.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Don't know AND don't care !

And you do your anti-science, anti-critical thinking skill brethren PROUD, yet again.

Disagree with you, makes me " anti-science ". Disagree with this or that person, that makes me " racist ", " homophobic ", what ever...

Sorry, that simply is not me. I'm VERY pro science, and VERY pro critical thinking. I am a skeptic, and sorry if that bothers you , but me not agreeing with you doesn't make me into some some boogyman or pitchfork waving zealot. I prefer to think for myself, thank you.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:47 PM

Trying to dig your way back outta this one, hmm?

What I wrote isn't that hard to understand, I explained it very clearly.
That you "don't get it" is on you. I can't fix THAT.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, August 26, 2017 10:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Trying to dig your way back outta this one, hmm?

What I wrote isn't that hard to understand, I explained it very clearly.
That you "don't get it" is on you. I can't fix THAT.

I GET it, I just don't buy that it's all that big a deal. Kinda like peanut allergies. Sure , they're deadly for those who are affected, but not a concern for me.

But hey, knock yerself out. Go wild w/ the alarm bell and raising of the red flags.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

WISHIMAY

Sunday, August 27, 2017 9:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
but not a concern for me.

You don't understand. I just had an occasional headache and one rash, and I still have it. I think many many others do that don't know until it's too late.

If only half of the people I think have some form of it actually do, that's still 32 MILLION PEOPLE. Just in THIS country.

But hey, only worry about YOU. Yer good at THAT...I mean, you don't care if anyone else gets SSI, and you don't care the government may be allowing food companies to poison us. Don't start screaming when they poison YOU and take away YOUR money, because you know I won't give a damn....

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, December 6, 2017 10:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

But hey, knock yerself out. Go wild w/ the alarm bell and raising of the red flags.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5149469/The-rate-food-allerg
ies-TRIPLED-10-years.html

Food allergies have seen a 377 percent spike in the last decade
The 'other specific foods' category accounted for a third of all allergies leading experts to believe preservatives and sugars could be the cause
An analysis conducted by nonprofit FAIR Health extensively analyzed private health insurance claims between 2007 and 2016 to find the data

They see it, it's right in front of them...now how to make them understand????

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, December 6, 2017 11:07 AM

If anyone cares....the reason so many people are having problems with nuts...

THEY COVER THEM IN PESTICIDES AND FUNGICIDES AND SALT.

Then they blend them up, and when you swallow a drying agent with a complex protein??? YOU EFFECTIVELY GET CONCRETE, DUHHHH.

Has not a damn thing to do with "early exposure."

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
But hey, knock yerself out. Go wild w/ the alarm bell and raising of the red flags.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5149469/The-rate-food-allerg
ies-TRIPLED-10-years.html

Food allergies have seen a 377 percent spike in the last decade
The 'other specific foods' category accounted for a third of all allergies leading experts to believe preservatives and sugars could be the cause
An analysis conducted by nonprofit FAIR Health extensively analyzed private health insurance claims between 2007 and 2016 to find the data

They see it, it's right in front of them...now how to make them understand????

Maybe you, and they, are just getting bung infection.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Maybe you, and they, are just getting bung infection.

Honey, if there's anyone here who is an uptight asshole, it's YOU

WISHIMAY

Friday, January 12, 2018 11:20 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5261143/Why-obese-struggle-l
ose-weight-diet.html

Uh huh. wonder how the fat gets inflamed??

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I just did a search for the difference between Sodium and Sulfur (rusty on the chemicals) and it turns out they make batteries.

This is where I wanted to post the flu vaccination story.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:53 AM

Why? Are the flu vaccines doing something bad?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Why? Are the flu vaccines doing something bad?

They are spreading the flu to the larger population. Currently the post is stuck in the RWED thread about antibiotic resistance.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 6:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is where I wanted to post the flu vaccination story.

Copied from the other thread.

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Anybody heard of the new study showing those injected with vaccines and still survive are something like 23 times more likely to spread the contagion they were injected/infected with.
So the vaccinations create the "herd" to be carriers and distribute, disseminate it to the whole population.

Heard parts of the discussion on Clyde somebodies radio show Ground Zero.

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
That sounds like it could be interesting if you could provide just a wee bit more information for follow-up.
I recall mention of mere breathing being the spreading action, and flu vaccines causing the neurological disorders. But I don't get a good hit on searching. The specific link was given, and was admitted to be hard to find, but I didn't write it down while driving.

OK, try groundzeromedia.org with Clyde Lewis. Shots In The Dark show dated 31 Jan. I cannot check that content at this time. On the show he did recite a specific link address.

There we go.
I didn't find this thread when I wanted to post this.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, February 7, 2018 9:42 AM

Yeah, they forced hubbs to get one every year at his old job and every year they made him sick for a whole weekend. I've never thought those things were right. I've never had one, either.

Every time I get in the car I hose myself and the kiddo down with hand sanitizer. I'm just doing my best to stay five feet away from EVERYONE this year.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:12 AM

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/08/584330475/major-psy
chiatric-disorders-have-more-in-common-than-we-thought-study-finds

The researchers found that the way genes express themselves in patients with autism, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder actually have a lot in common. Broadly, that includes fewer genes involved in signaling between neurons and more genes related to neuroinflammatory cells.

There are areas of clear divergence, too – an increase in genes related to a certain kind of neuroinflammatory cell was present in patients with autism, but not those with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:38 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5393231/Processed-foods-drivin
g-rates-cancer.html#comments

GEEE, I WONDER WHY????????????

WISHIMAY

Sunday, February 25, 2018 8:10 AM

I would just like to add that the reason Keto diets are working so well for some people that don't have epilepsy is because they are most likely reactive to sulfur in some way or have connective tissue defects and it has dried them out and caused inflammation. Once you balance the levels of healthy fats -if you have those issues- your body no longer needs to hold on to all the extra.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, February 25, 2018 9:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
I would just like to add that the reason Keto diets are working so well for people that don't have epilepsy is because they are most likely reactive to sulfur in some way or have connective tissue defects and it has dried them out and caused inflammation. Once you balance the levels of healthy fats -if you have those issues- your body no longer needs to hold on to all the extra.

Is that what you meant to say?
Due to syntax, composition, not sure what you mean.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, February 25, 2018 10:05 AM

Yes.

Keto diets are about burning fat for energy, instead of carbs.

In a compromised fat system, the body holds onto what it can. Once it gets a steady supply of what it wants, it no longer holds onto the rest and uses it for fuel instead.

I've been adding more Keto diet foods and I've dropped another 10 lbs. During WINTER, moving LESS than usual. I wouldn't have EVER bet on that happening.

WISHIMAY

Monday, February 26, 2018 10:44 AM

They talk here about dried potato flakes and peanut butter and shelf stable preservative filled foods and obesity in Native American tribes...

Dried potato flakes have so much sulfite in them they make me throw up. Peanut butter gives me stomach cramps that are so violent they mimic the other effects of a heart attack.

It's awful we as a country are still trying to kill them off.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/02/25/588098959/how-might-tr
ump-plan-for-food-boxes-affect-health-native-americans-know-all-too

Both of her parents worked full time, but "it just wasn't enough to support a family," she says. They relied on government provisions for meals. Breakfast was often a grain like farina served with powdered milk with water added to it. "A lot of times we had mashed potato flakes — you add water, too – and maybe canned peaches, and if you had any vegetables, it was canned. And that was pretty much it."

The effects of this kind of government commodities-based diet can be seen all around Indian country, says Jernigan, now a University of Oklahoma researcher who studies the impacts of food environments on Native American health. "There's even a name for it – it's called 'commod bod.' That's what we call it because it makes you look a certain way when you eat these foods."

The name, she says, is a joke, but the health implications of this kind of diet are anything but funny. American Indians and Alaska Natives are at least twice as likely as whites to have Type 2 diabetes, and they have 1 1/2 times the rate of obesity as non-Hispanic whites, according to the government statistics.

Scientists think one explanation for these health differences may lie in what is called the "thrifty gene" theory, which suggests Native Americans have a genetic predisposition to obesity and diabetes. But these diseases didn't become prevalent until tribes adopted a more processed Western diet, notes Elizabeth Hoover, who is of Mohawk and Mi'kmaq ancestry and teaches about indigenous food movements at Brown University.

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 2, 2018 9:57 AM

^bump

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:38 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5519469/Women-larger-waists-
likely-children-autism.html

Was reading yesterday that sulfite intolerance is classified as a metabolic disorder, so you know they already know it makes people fat and it's allowed in everything!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 5:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
They talk here about dried potato flakes and peanut butter and shelf stable preservative filled foods and obesity in Native American tribes...

Dried potato flakes have so much sulfite in them they make me throw up. Peanut butter gives me stomach cramps that are so violent they mimic the other effects of a heart attack.

It's awful we as a country are still trying to kill them off.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/02/25/588098959/how-might-tr
ump-plan-for-food-boxes-affect-health-native-americans-know-all-too

Both of her parents worked full time, but "it just wasn't enough to support a family," she says. They relied on government provisions for meals. Breakfast was often a grain like farina served with powdered milk with water added to it. "A lot of times we had mashed potato flakes — you add water, too – and maybe canned peaches, and if you had any vegetables, it was canned. And that was pretty much it."

The effects of this kind of government commodities-based diet can be seen all around Indian country, says Jernigan, now a University of Oklahoma researcher who studies the impacts of food environments on Native American health. "There's even a name for it – it's called 'commod bod.' That's what we call it because it makes you look a certain way when you eat these foods."

The name, she says, is a joke, but the health implications of this kind of diet are anything but funny. American Indians and Alaska Natives are at least twice as likely as whites to have Type 2 diabetes, and they have 1 1/2 times the rate of obesity as non-Hispanic whites, according to the government statistics.

Scientists think one explanation for these health differences may lie in what is called the "thrifty gene" theory, which suggests Native Americans have a genetic predisposition to obesity and diabetes. But these diseases didn't become prevalent until tribes adopted a more processed Western diet, notes Elizabeth Hoover, who is of Mohawk and Mi'kmaq ancestry and teaches about indigenous food movements at Brown University.

Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:12 AM

It actually costs quite a bit of time and money to grow veggies. Tillers, irrigation equipment, seeds, fertilizer, know how.

I cannot speak for the fertility and economic situations of all tribal lands, but I would not want to be a gardener, either.

Between the arthritis, the outdoor allergies, and the heat intolerance, it's really not a possibility for me. Growing edible crops is also not as easy as just sticking seeds in the ground.

Most of the poverty on reservations is due to lack of jobs because people don't invest in poor areas, and because they don't own land and cannot mortgage it as an asset to build a business, and because EVERY business has to go through dozens of approvals processes. Their young that are intelligent enough leave and don't come back.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-government
-keeps-native-americans-in-poverty/#1e7929462c27

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
It actually costs quite a bit of time and money to grow veggies. Tillers, irrigation equipment, seeds, fertilizer, know how.

I cannot speak for the fertility and economic situations of all tribal lands, but I would not want to be a gardener, either.

Between the arthritis, the outdoor allergies, and the heat intolerance, it's really not a possibility for me. Growing edible crops is also not as easy as just sticking seeds in the ground.

Most of the poverty on reservations is due to lack of jobs because people don't invest in poor areas, and because they don't own land and cannot mortgage it as an asset to build a business, and because EVERY business has to go through dozens of approvals processes. Their young that are intelligent enough leave and don't come back.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/5-ways-the-government
-keeps-native-americans-in-poverty/#1e7929462c27

You should look into urban agra centers, in vacant buildings and vacant parking lots. They also have free training programs, to spread the movement. Sounds like yu are not familiar. It is essentially indoors.

These might help:
https://civileats.com/2017/10/04/milwaukee-is-showing-how-urban-garden
ing-can-heal-a-city/

http://seedstock.com/2014/04/07/milwaukee-leads-nation-in-urban-agricu
lture-policy/

https://www.archdaily.com/443632/milwaukee-urban-farm-movement-grows

I had been under the impression these were more common. Either I'm just not finding them, or they are less prevalent.

BRENDA

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
They talk here about dried potato flakes and peanut butter and shelf stable preservative filled foods and obesity in Native American tribes...

Dried potato flakes have so much sulfite in them they make me throw up. Peanut butter gives me stomach cramps that are so violent they mimic the other effects of a heart attack.

It's awful we as a country are still trying to kill them off.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/02/25/588098959/how-might-tr
ump-plan-for-food-boxes-affect-health-native-americans-know-all-too

Both of her parents worked full time, but "it just wasn't enough to support a family," she says. They relied on government provisions for meals. Breakfast was often a grain like farina served with powdered milk with water added to it. "A lot of times we had mashed potato flakes — you add water, too – and maybe canned peaches, and if you had any vegetables, it was canned. And that was pretty much it."

The effects of this kind of government commodities-based diet can be seen all around Indian country, says Jernigan, now a University of Oklahoma researcher who studies the impacts of food environments on Native American health. "There's even a name for it – it's called 'commod bod.' That's what we call it because it makes you look a certain way when you eat these foods."

The name, she says, is a joke, but the health implications of this kind of diet are anything but funny. American Indians and Alaska Natives are at least twice as likely as whites to have Type 2 diabetes, and they have 1 1/2 times the rate of obesity as non-Hispanic whites, according to the government statistics.

Quote:
Scientists think one explanation for these health differences may lie in what is called the "thrifty gene" theory, which suggests Native Americans have a genetic predisposition to obesity and diabetes. But these diseases didn't become prevalent until tribes adopted a more processed Western diet, notes Elizabeth Hoover, who is of Mohawk and Mi'kmaq ancestry and teaches about indigenous food movements at Brown University.

This last piece is exactly right. It was the introduction of European foods, white flour, sugar and the like that has cause obesity and diabetes rates to sky rocket in American and Canadian Indians. I've known that for years.

BRENDA

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
They talk here about dried potato flakes and peanut butter and shelf stable preservative filled foods and obesity in Native American tribes...

Dried potato flakes have so much sulfite in them they make me throw up. Peanut butter gives me stomach cramps that are so violent they mimic the other effects of a heart attack.

It's awful we as a country are still trying to kill them off.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/02/25/588098959/how-might-tr
ump-plan-for-food-boxes-affect-health-native-americans-know-all-too

Both of her parents worked full time, but "it just wasn't enough to support a family," she says. They relied on government provisions for meals. Breakfast was often a grain like farina served with powdered milk with water added to it. "A lot of times we had mashed potato flakes — you add water, too – and maybe canned peaches, and if you had any vegetables, it was canned. And that was pretty much it."

The effects of this kind of government commodities-based diet can be seen all around Indian country, says Jernigan, now a University of Oklahoma researcher who studies the impacts of food environments on Native American health. "There's even a name for it – it's called 'commod bod.' That's what we call it because it makes you look a certain way when you eat these foods."

The name, she says, is a joke, but the health implications of this kind of diet are anything but funny. American Indians and Alaska Natives are at least twice as likely as whites to have Type 2 diabetes, and they have 1 1/2 times the rate of obesity as non-Hispanic whites, according to the government statistics.

Scientists think one explanation for these health differences may lie in what is called the "thrifty gene" theory, which suggests Native Americans have a genetic predisposition to obesity and diabetes. But these diseases didn't become prevalent until tribes adopted a more processed Western diet, notes Elizabeth Hoover, who is of Mohawk and Mi'kmaq ancestry and teaches about indigenous food movements at Brown University.
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?

Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:18 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I had been under the impression these were more common. Either I'm just not finding them, or they are less prevalent.

They stopped doing a lot of urban grow projects because people would steal EVERYTHING including the equipment, all the produce, and then sell it off.
Poor people tend to do that...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:53 PM

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Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.

This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?

BRENDA

Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?

Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?

JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:51 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?
JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.

Yes, thanks.

The ag-based Tribes were also nomadic, right? Planted crops and returned later to harvest, right? I remember corn graineries have been found from centuries ago.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:55 PM

Yes, JSF...growing corn will fix EVERYTHING.

It'll totally make up for lack of industry, isolation, poverty, and a century or two of institutionalization.

BRENDA

Thursday, March 22, 2018 6:59 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?
JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.
Yes, thanks.

The ag-based Tribes were also nomadic, right? Planted crops and returned later to harvest, right? I remember corn graineries have been found from centuries ago.

No they weren't. Hopi and Zuni were Pueblo Indians which is why they had graineries that are now being found archaeologically.

BRENDA

Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:00 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yes, JSF...growing corn will fix EVERYTHING.

It'll totally make up for lack of industry, isolation, poverty, and a century or two of institutionalization.

You forgot to mention squash and beans as well Wishi.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:16 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing this, I wonder if Native Americans can adopt more agrarian practice. They seem to have available unimproved land, not apparently used for much. Are the lands they have not rich in agricultural fioundations?
Even cities now have urban agri-centers, producing fresh veggies, fish, etc within buildings or greenhouses. If Tribes have disused manpower, could they not develop resources like this? Are there Federal regulations prohibiting Native Americans from this agricultural freedom and autonomy?
Outside of what Wishi said, the American government DID not give us the best land for growing or hunting on in the beginning.
This is part of what I was wondering. I know some of it was substandard. Was all of it?
And now, with these new Ag practices, essentially indoors and year-round in wintery climates, can these be utilized to counter the disadvantage that Tribes have? Can a Nation just have Tribal land allocated to build upon, or improve upon, and generate produce by and for Tribal members? Or is there too much drug addiction to withstand the actions that Wishi described, like theft, of TribL property?
JSF, you have to understand that what you are talking about in the here and now has it roots in what happened 200years ago.

Tribes in the US that I knew about that were agriculturally based before the European arrival were the Hopi and Cherokee.

I looked up also the Zuni as well as the Omaha and the Ponca.

Tribes like the Dakota, Cheyenne, Crow, Apache, my own and others were not agricultural to begin with. Hunters and gatherers.

Your ancestors had centuries to get into a stationary society. We had it foisted on us by the US gov. We were told to change a whole way of living, a whole way of thinking in a year or two. Government agents would watch us to make sure we were "learning" how to do all this.

Weapons such as guns were taken away that we hunted with and then the government decided maybe some of those should be given back. Trade in alcohol, residential schools.

This has all played into what has happened. Tribes are working on getting out of it. It takes time, 200years of wrong isn't going to be fixed in 50years. This is my feeling and what I know of the subject.
Yes, thanks.

The ag-based Tribes were also nomadic, right? Planted crops and returned later to harvest, right? I remember corn graineries have been found from centuries ago.
No they weren't. Hopi and Zuni were Pueblo Indians which is why they had graineries that are now being found archaeologically.

Thanks for the info.

WISHIMAY

Thursday, March 22, 2018 9:32 AM

Big shocker here...NOT.

https://frontier.yahoo.com/lifestyle/link-gut-health-autoimmune-disord
ers-120024072.html

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, March 23, 2018 5:36 AM

I hope this is not off-topic.

I knew about Aspertame stripped away Myelin (see film Lorenzo's Oil for good Myelin info), leading to paralysis. But this was info I had from 15-20 years ago.

Didn't know about the mental illness caused by it (aka NutraSweet}, how it relates to consumption of other products:

http://www.bollyn.com/how-do-ssri-antidepressants-work

BRENDA

Friday, March 23, 2018 9:12 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I hope this is not off-topic.

I knew about Aspertame stripped away Myelin (see film Lorenzo's Oil for good Myelin info), leading to paralysis. But this was info I had from 15-20 years ago.

Didn't know about the mental illness caused by it (aka NutraSweet}, how it relates to consumption of other products:

http://www.bollyn.com/how-do-ssri-antidepressants-work

Also if a person has had a brain injury things like Aspertame head right for the injury site and stay there. That is why I do not use artificial sweetners.

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 23, 2018 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I knew about Aspertame stripped away Myelin ]

The "s" in aspertame is a sulfur ion, just FYI.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, April 5, 2018 10:13 PM

I have not kept track of all in this thread.

Were you aware Monsanto is merging with Bayer?

WISHIMAY

Friday, April 6, 2018 9:57 PM

Yes. Are you aware that todays "aspirin" is made from petroleum. You should check out the wiki page on aspirin. Half the population still thinks it is made from willow tree bark.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, April 16, 2018 9:47 AM

Gadolinium.
Watching the story from Full Measure with Sharyl Attkinssen. With victim wife of Chuck Norris.

Sounds like it's not from food, tho.

But quite the cover-up.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:02 AM

She had a reaction to that from a test. I've had a bone scan and two CT's and was no worse off after. Anyone could have a reaction to anything at any time.

Look up Stevens-Johnson if you never want to look at a pill or supplement the same ever again.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
She had a reaction to that from a test. I've had a bone scan and two CT's and was no worse off after. Anyone could have a reaction to anything at any time.

Look up Stevens-Johnson if you never want to look at a pill or supplement the same ever again.

But everybody agreed that it stays in you. One lady had an undiagnosed slow release reaction 7 years after her last test.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:40 AM

I don't think that's possible for them to know it was THAT for sure seven years later...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5640283/High-sugar-diets-pre
gnancy-early-childhood-linked-poor-cognitive-scores.html

It's NOT the sugar. It's the shit they process the sugar and the corn syrup and the molasses and coconut with. I can't eat bleached sugar that you buy on the cheap and even put it in tea anymore, it makes me sick. We use honey and organic agave for a lot of things, and raw sugar.

High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a cheap, highly refined sweetener used extensively by food manufacturers. Several chemicals are required to make HFCS, including caustic soda, hydrochloric acid, alpha-amylase, gluco-amylase, isomerase, filter aid, powdered carbon, calcium chloride, and magnesium sulfate.
The process for making HFCS begins with gigantic tanks, each holding 40,000 bushels of corn.

Hot water and sulfur dioxide are added, and the corn sits in this solution for a day or two to soften. The softened corn is then ground up, and then separated into 3 parts:

•The germ, which is used for corn oil.
•The fiber which is used for animal feed.
•The starch, which is processed further.
The starch is further separated into gluten, which is used as more animal feed, and the most important part, liquid starch.
The liquid starch is then subjected to a mixture of hydrochloric acid and enzymes to separate out and concentrate the corn sweeteners.
But here's the real scary part: The caustic soda and hydrochloric acid used in this corn "wet milling" process are "mercury grade", meaning the soda and acid were produce via a "mercury cell chlor-alkali process". Studies which tested various HFCS products found that there were indeed traces of mercury in these products.

A list of our most popular cane sugar mill processing chemical products are shown below. Additional products are available which are not shown on our web site. Please contact us with your specific requirements.

Mill Sanitation Biocide - DTC

Mill Sanitation Biocide - QUAT

Juice Clarification Flocculant

Juice Clarification Flocculant

Juice Clarification Flocculant

Evaporator Scale Inhibitor / antiscalant

Corrosion Inhibitor for HCl

Caustic based Evaporator Cleaning Additive

Evaporator Descaling - Special Compound

Syrup Decolorizing Agent (polymer)

Syrup Decolorizing Agent (polymer)

Syrup Decolorizing Agent (polymer)

Syrup Clarification Flocculant

Syrup Clarification Flocculant

Crystallizing /Vacuum Pan Aid

Crystallizing /Vacuum Pan Aid

Crystallizing /Vacuum Pan Aid

Syrup Defoamer - Silicone Based

Syrup Defoamer - Silicone Based

Juice Defoamer - Organic Based

Alcohol Defoamer - Organic Based

Dextran Control - Bio-Surfactant

Dextran Control - Dextranase (Dextran free)

Starch Control - Alpha Amylase (Licuamil L340)

Starch Control - Alpha Amylase (Thermozyme L340)

WISHIMAY

Saturday, April 21, 2018 12:17 PM

Carmel colorings have a ton of sulfur. Food colorings are sulfited.

Caramel color is manufactured by heating carbohydrates, either alone or in the presence of acids, alkalis, and/or salts. Caramel color is produced from commercially available nutritive sweeteners consisting of fructose, dextrose (glucose), invert sugar, sucrose, malt syrup, molasses, starch hydrolysates, and fractions thereof. The acids that may be used are sulfuric, sulfurous, phosphoric, acetic, and citric acids; the alkalis are ammonium, sodium, potassium, and calcium hydroxides; and the salts are ammonium, sodium, and potassium carbonate, bicarbonate, phosphate (including mono- and dibasic), sulfate, and bisulfite. Antifoaming agents, such as polyglycerol esters of fatty acids, may be used as processing aids during manufacture.[8] Its color ranges from pale-yellow to amber to dark-brown.

ALL ROADS LEAD TO SULFUR. Some foods have several different forms of it in there...

•Sulfur dioxide
Potassium bisulfite
potassium metabisulfite
Sodium bisulfite,
sodium metabisulfite
sodium sulfite

1.) Ammonium Sulfate – Dough Strengthener and Conditioner

2.) Calcium Sulfate – Yeast Nutrient

3.) Ferrous Sulfate ( Iron ) – Nutrient

4.) Magnesium Sulfate is used as a brewing salt in beer.

It may also be used as a coagulant for making tofu.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I don't think that's possible for them to know it was THAT for sure seven years later...

When they removed the organ, gadolinium is what was in it.

I don't know why you insist upon ignoring/avoiding the facts.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
When they removed the organ, gadolinium is what was in it.

That... and a few other things, I'm sure. When people have these scans they have something going wrong to begin with. I'm sure there are going to be a few people whose systems cannot deal with it. Maybe they should do a better job of conveying the risks, but when you are trying to figure out what is wrong to treat it, sometimes going with whatever medieval test they have is your only option. Having that scan enabled me to figure out what the problem wasn't and what it was. Totally worth it, for me.

WISHIMAY

Friday, June 8, 2018 10:10 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5821291/Children-autism-TWIC
E-likely-food-allergies.html

Well, someone is finally admitting it...

The latest study found 18.73 percent of children with ASD suffered from respiratory allergies, while 12.08 percent of children without it had them.

Meanwhile, 16.81 percent of children with ASD had skin allergies, well above the 9.84 percent of children who are not autistic.

Dr Bao said: 'This indicates there could be a shared mechanism linking different types of allergic conditions to ASD.'

They found that 11.25 percent of children reportedly diagnosed with ASD have a food allergy - much more than the 4.25 percent of children not on the spectrum who have a food allergy.

YEAH THEY ALL HAVE CONNECTIVE TISSUE ISSUES. Duh...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5821291/Children-autism-TWIC
E-likely-food-allergies.html

Well, someone is finally admitting it...

The latest study found 18.73 percent of children with ASD suffered from respiratory allergies, while 12.08 percent of children without it had them.

Meanwhile, 16.81 percent of children with ASD had skin allergies, well above the 9.84 percent of children who are not autistic.

Dr Bao said: 'This indicates there could be a shared mechanism linking different types of allergic conditions to ASD.'

They found that 11.25 percent of children reportedly diagnosed with ASD have a food allergy - much more than the 4.25 percent of children not on the spectrum who have a food allergy.

YEAH THEY ALL HAVE CONNECTIVE TISSUE ISSUES. Duh...

What is the relationship between non-vaccinated children and these 3 allergies?

WISHIMAY

Saturday, June 9, 2018 10:23 AM

I don't know, but I highly suspect my grandpa had a sulfite intolerance and like me, developed it in his 20's (after he started eating canned slop in the army). I doubt he'd had many vaccines by 1944. He also had older relatives with "tummy troubles" as they called it then. Pretty sure they wouldn't have known how to spell vaccine, let alone have gotten them. Sulfur intolerances aren't new, they've been around since Ancient Greece...they've just remained unstudied so the food industry could continue to sell more product.

I think you think the vast majority of children are born completely healthy, and that's not true. Most disorders don't appear until years or decades later and it has always been that way.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, June 15, 2018 12:28 PM

Right now Coast To Coast AM is discussing Monsanto, GMOs, RoundUp, etc.

Guest is Jeffrey somebody.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:21 AM

Yeah, Hi.

I just wanted to say I am right and this proves it.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180619/Follow-up-study-confirms-su
ccess-of-physiological-test-for-autism.aspx

The initial success in 2017 analyzed data from a group of 149 people, about half of whom had been previously diagnosed with ASD. For each member of the group, Hahn obtained data on 24 metabolites related to the two cellular pathways--the methionine cycle and the transsulfuration pathway.

Together with cysteine, methionine is one of two sulfur-containing proteinogenic amino acids.

IT'S THE DAMN SULFUR!

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, June 20, 2018 8:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Yeah, Hi.

I just wanted to say I am right and this proves it.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180619/Follow-up-study-confirms-su
ccess-of-physiological-test-for-autism.aspx

The initial success in 2017 analyzed data from a group of 149 people, about half of whom had been previously diagnosed with ASD. For each member of the group, Hahn obtained data on 24 metabolites related to the two cellular pathways--the methionine cycle and the transsulfuration pathway.

Together with cysteine, methionine is one of two sulfur-containing proteinogenic amino acids.

IT'S THE DAMN SULFUR!

Is sulfur used in vaccines?

WISHIMAY

Thursday, August 2, 2018 4:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Is sulfur used in vaccines?

Supposedly there are only trace amounts of sulfa drugs in the flu vaccines, and anything that uses egg protein as a binder, but trace amounts of peanuts kill people every day. I doubt they would ever release a study that kept people from getting vaccines, even if it DID have the possibility of death.

Sunday we came home from the store and picked up a couple orange Fantas for the first time in probably 10 years (I can't drink a whole soda anymore, but I can get a plastic bottle and have a sip every now and then)

My kid had half a soda and her feet swelled up like sausages. I then noticed that there are sodium (tri)poly phosphates are in the Fantas (SPP's are added to seafood to retain moisture and also to cleaning solutions.

You should see the pic of her feet. It kills me that they think this crap is safe.

NO, I don't WANNA FANTA anymore.

WISHIMAY

Monday, August 13, 2018 9:34 PM

And now we have the reason why people on the spectrum don't live as long.
If you are intolerant to sulfur, it never gets where it has to go.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6054937/Ageing-reversible-Sc
ientists-rejuvenate-old-human-cells-lab.html#

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, August 14, 2018 6:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Is sulfur used in vaccines?

Supposedly there are only trace amounts of sulfa drugs in the flu vaccines, and anything that uses egg protein as a binder, but trace amounts of peanuts kill people every day. I doubt they would ever release a study that kept people from getting vaccines, even if it DID have the possibility of death.

Sunday we came home from the store and picked up a couple orange Fantas for the first time in probably 10 years (I can't drink a whole soda anymore, but I can get a plastic bottle and have a sip every now and then)

My kid had half a soda and her feet swelled up like sausages. I then noticed that there are sodium (tri)poly phosphates are in the Fantas (SPP's are added to seafood to retain moisture and also to cleaning solutions.

You should see the pic of her feet. It kills me that they think this crap is safe.

NO, I don't WANNA FANTA anymore.

Isn't Fanta just pure HFCS and engineered poison Sucralose? Almost as bad as Bug Juice/Hog Wash.

I don't understand why not Crush (no caffeine) or Sunkist (lotsa caffeine).

BRENDA

Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:32 AM

The one that gets to me is called "Vitamin A Palmitate" which is found in milk and nut milks and soy milks.

WISHIMAY

Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:30 AM

How does it bother you? I understand it's not good if you spend a lot of time outdoors, but other than that??

It's supposedly derived from palm oil...

I was right about the tri-poly phosphates too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6094985/Additive-makes-chees
e-spreadable-raises-persons-blood-pressure-heart-rate.html

BRENDA

Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
How does it bother you? I understand it's not good if you spend a lot of time outdoors, but other than that??

It's supposedly derived from palm oil...

I was right about the tri-poly phosphates too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6094985/Additive-makes-chees
e-spreadable-raises-persons-blood-pressure-heart-rate.html

It makes me feel sick. I have an upset stomach until it passes out of my system. I also found it in a brand of apple turnovers that I liked. It wasn't in the apple filling because I was fine eating that. It was in the pastry because once I started it that, I began feeling sick.

And since my body has decided to reject the little bit of milk(cow) that I could tolerate for oh, about a month or so. I am now eating cereal which is spoon sized shredded wheat with just hot water and some sugar. Same goes for the plain instant oatmeal that I generally eat to take my seizure meds with. Just adding extra water to make sure it is a good consistency so I can take my meds.

BRENDA

Monday, August 27, 2018 12:06 AM

Now using a rice milk that doesn't contain Vitamin A Palmitate.

WISHIMAY

Monday, August 27, 2018 7:20 AM

Oh good, glad you found something that works

Seems people are just now figuring what ice cream AIN'T.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6100551/Vanilla-ice-cream-no-v
anilla-cream-Consumer-group-slams-synthetic-treats.html

I make ice cream by freezing a couple cups of milk into a slush, then I add vanilla, a couple tablespoons of condensed milk and heavy cream and then put back into the freezer stirring every 15 minutes for about 45 minutes. No machine required.

I went into a store today and some floor guy comes up outta the blue and starts telling me about his digestive problems. The FDA is flat out allowing food manufacturers to kill us all.

BRENDA

Monday, August 27, 2018 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Oh good, glad you found something that works

Seems people are just now figuring what ice cream AIN'T.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6100551/Vanilla-ice-cream-no-v
anilla-cream-Consumer-group-slams-synthetic-treats.html

I make ice cream by freezing a couple cups of milk into a slush, then I add vanilla, a couple tablespoons of condensed milk and heavy cream and then put back into the freezer stirring every 15 minutes for about 45 minutes. No machine required.

I went into a store today and some floor guy comes up outta the blue and starts telling me about his digestive problems. The FDA is flat out allowing food manufacturers to kill us all.

So far so good with this.

I try not to buy the crap stuff when it comes to ice cream. One brand I love is Haagen Dasz chocolate chocolate chunk. It's made in Canada and is pretty crap free. Expensive because it uses real milk and cream but I love it. Been eating it for years.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, October 3, 2018 1:49 AM

Here is WHY artificial sweeteners are bad...(from daily mail)

As well as aspartame, the scientists also assessed sucralose, saccharine, neotame, advantame and acesulfame potassium-k.

Ten sports supplements that contain these sweeteners were also analysed for the study, published in the journal Molecules.

The study was led by a team at Ben-Gurion University of the Negev and Nanyang Technological University in Singapore.

In their laboratory trial, all six of the sweeteners were exposed to bacteria that are commonly found in the human gut.

These bacteria were genetically modified to contain fluorescent compounds that glow when they detect toxins.

The researchers discovered toxins are released when gut bacteria are exposed to artificial sweeteners in the lab.

It only took one mg/ml of the artificial sweeteners to turn the bacteria toxic.

And the higher the amount of artificial sweetener, the more toxins that are released, according to the team led by Professor Ariel Kushmaro.

When I hit 13 and gained 50 pounds mom was desperate for me to lose weight so she could be the "pretty sister".... how much aspartame did I eat?? How much did SHE? She's been drinking diet cokes for 40 years...

Yeah, let's fill the food with this crap before we even know WHAT IT DOES. SMDH.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, October 7, 2018 9:29 PM

https://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20181005/fda-bans-seven-artificial-foo
d-flavorings

Environmental and health advocacy groups sent data to the agency that showed that 6 of the substances cause cancer in lab animals, the FDA says, and the seventh flavor is being removed from approved additives as it is no longer used by industry.

The 6 are:
Benzophenone-is found in fruits, is present in grapes, and is a flavouring agent Benzophenone is a common photosensitizer in photochemistry.
Benzophenone is the organic compound. Substituted benzophenones such as oxybenzone and dioxybenzone are used in sunscreen.
BENZOPHENONE is a white solid with a flowery odor. May float or sink in water.
Benzophenone can also be added to plastic packaging as a UV blocker to prevent photo-degradation of the packaging polymers or its contents. Its use allows manufacturers to package the product in clear glass or plastic. In 2014, benzophenones were named Contact Allergen of the Year by the American Contact Dermatitis Society

Ethyl acrylate-Human studies on occupational exposure to ethyl acrylate...have suggested a relationship between exposure to the chemical(s) and colorectal cancer. Acute (short-term) exposure of workers to ethyl acrylate vapors has been reported to cause drowsiness, lethargy, headache, nausea, convulsions, and respiratory and gastrointestinal irritation. Acute (short-term) exposure of workers to ethyl acrylate vapors has been reported to cause drowsiness, lethargy, headache, nausea, convulsions, and respiratory and gastrointestinal irritation. It is found in pineapple and used as a flavoring ingredient and also in the manufacture of paints and plastics.

Eugenyl methyl ether- Pale yellow liquid having a clovy odour. (allylveratrol) is a natural chemical compound classified as a phenylpropene, a type of phenylpropanoid. It is the methyl ether of eugenol and is important to insect behavior and pollination.[1] It is found in various essential oils.
The structure of eugenyl methyl ether is similar to that of safrol, a known hepatocarcinogen and was found to be a strong inhibitor of hepatic microsomal enzyme function.

Myrcene- and myrcene is a significant component of the essential oil of several plants, including bay, cannabis, ylang-ylang, wild thyme, parsley, cardamom, and hops. ß-myrcene, used as a flavoring agent in food and beverages, and as a fragrance in cosmetics, soaps, and detergents, also meets the criteria for listing as known to the state of California to cause cancer under Proposition 65. “We conclude that ß-myrcene caused kidney cancers in male rats and liver cancer in male mice…”

Pulegone- an insecticide distilled from catnip

Pyridine- colorless, flammable, liquid organic base, C5H5N, having a disagreeable odor, usually obtained from coal or synthesized from acetaldehyde and ammonia: used chiefly as a solvent and in organic synthesis.
A flammable, colorless or yellowish liquid base that results from the dry distillation of organic matter containing nitrogen, has a penetrating odor, and is used in analytical chemistry and in the manufacture of various drugs and vitamins.

The FDA also removed its approval for styrene, which has been abandoned by industry, the agency says.

Talk about FRANKENFOOD! Most of these have been thought to cause cancers for years. Liver, kidney, colon cancers. Thank you to whoever put forth the work to prove it...

Under these same conditions, it should be easy to prove that artificially created sulfur compounds cause cancer as well.

WISHIMAY

Sunday, October 7, 2018 10:02 PM

Ok, so under that note, I'm looking up ANY information already available for sulfur and cancer or other effects.

Ok, I found a dozen half assed studies where data were not controlled and inadequately reported...

BUT... LOOK AT THIS ONE

Bisulfite solutions at high concentrations caused deamination of cytosine in DNA in vitro.
http://www.inchem.org/documents/iarc/vol54/02-sulfur-dioxide.html

Deamination of cytosine converts it into uracil instead of thymine, thymine as the normal base makes detection and repair of such incipient mutations more efficient.

SO basically more bi-sulfites makes a fetuses DNA LESS ABLE to code for and regulate out mutations??? SERIOUSLY???

If that's true, THAT'S MF'N HUGE. Imma start a new thread....

WISHIMAY

Saturday, October 27, 2018 5:14 AM

And now I know why hubby gets sick every time he gets a flu shot. And why I'm glad I never got one...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6319579/Pork-gelatine-vacci
nes-puts-using-vegetarians-say.html

There's gelatine in it. Might as well shoot sulfur directly into your veins... Wonder if it specifically affects people with sulfa drug issues, as he's never had to take a sulfa drug so we wouldn't know...

I can only imagine what it would do to me. Wouldn't be good.

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, January 9, 2019 11:25 PM

Too much phosphates aren't good, but they are still pretending the sulfites aren't the problem. LOTS of sulfur in bacon, and most things that have phosphates.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6573635/Controversial-food-
additive-used-bacon-makes-lazy.html

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
And now I know why hubby gets sick every time he gets a flu shot. And why I'm glad I never got one...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6319579/Pork-gelatine-vacci
nes-puts-using-vegetarians-say.html

There's gelatine in it. Might as well shoot sulfur directly into your veins... Wonder if it specifically affects people with sulfa drug issues, as he's never had to take a sulfa drug so we wouldn't know...

I can only imagine what it would do to me. Wouldn't be good.

But I keep hearing everybody say vaccines are good for everybody.

Have you heard of TSO Therapy to treat or prevent Crone's Disease?

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 29, 2019 3:28 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6861411/Mothers-eat-diets-o
mega-3-omega-6-fatty-acids-raise-risk-ADHD-symptoms-kids.html

While women are often encouraged to eat foods rich in omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids - like nuts and soybeans - the study found that increased the risk of their children being inattentive and impulsive by at least 13 percent.

'The nutrient supply during the earliest stages of life is essential in that it programs the structure and function of the organs, and this programming, in turn, has an impact on health at every stage of life,' said co-author Dr Jordi Júlvez, an assistant research professor at ISGlobal.

'As the brain takes a long time to develop, it is particularly vulnerable to misprogramming. Alterations of this sort could, therefore, lead to neurodevelopmental disorders.'

Wanna guess what nuts and soy products have in common? Yeah, lots of sulfur. Most people with sulfite intolerances can't eat soy at all, but I don't have a problem with small amounts.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 8:41 AM

I just saw a bottle of molasses labeled unsulfurated or unsulphurized or similar.
I've never seen that before.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:42 PM

Unsulf Molasses sells for about three times as much on Amazon.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Unsulf Molasses sells for about three times as much on Amazon.

I saw it at Dollar Tree. Everything is $1.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 13, 2019 9:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Unsulf Molasses sells for about three times as much on Amazon.
I saw it at Dollar Tree. Everything is $1.

I picked up a bottle. They also had a regular molasses. For $1. The size was not 3x. I don't think it was 2x. More like 1.5x.

WISHIMAY

Friday, April 26, 2019 9:26 AM

Yeah, I've seen it at our local cheap stores too. I don't use it, but I've looked it up.

And for today's shocker... GIVING KIDS THINGS THEY ARE ALLERGIC TO MAKES THEM MORE ALLERGIC, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It doesn't get them "used to it", it doubles the bodies allergic response.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6959421/Do-NOT-peanuts-chil
dren-cure-allergy-study-warns.html

I've been screaming against this since they announced they were trying it. All those people who listened to these crap docs and their shit science should sue and get their money back. You can't tell me the doctors din't notice the anaphylaxis rates TRIPLED!

WISHIMAY

Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:39 AM

And MORE PROOF sulfur compounds... or lack thereof... causes neurological disorders...

https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-05/jhm-bsc050619.php

They used the chemical sulforaphane found in broccoli sprouts, which is known to turn on a gene that makes more of the enzyme that sticks glutamate with another molecule to make glutathione. When they treated rat brain cells with glutathione, it slowed the speed at which the nerve cells fired, meaning they were sending fewer messages. The researchers say this pushed the brain cells to behave less like the pattern found in brains with schizophrenia.

The scientists say further research is needed to learn whether sulforaphane can safely reduce symptoms of psychosis or hallucinations in people with schizophrenia.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
And MORE PROOF sulfur compounds... or lack thereof... causes neurological disorders...

https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-05/jhm-bsc050619.php

They used the chemical sulforaphane found in broccoli sprouts, which is known to turn on a gene that makes more of the enzyme that sticks glutamate with another molecule to make glutathione. When they treated rat brain cells with glutathione, it slowed the speed at which the nerve cells fired, meaning they were sending fewer messages. The researchers say this pushed the brain cells to behave less like the pattern found in brains with schizophrenia.

The scientists say further research is needed to learn whether sulforaphane can safely reduce symptoms of psychosis or hallucinations in people with schizophrenia.

So...avoiding sulphur compounds can make a woman psycho?

WISHIMAY

Friday, May 10, 2019 10:11 AM

Just the ones around you

Can't imagine why...

WISHIMAY

Monday, September 23, 2019 11:55 AM

Some numbers just got a little bit clearer...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-09-obesity-abnormal-bowel-habitsno
t-diet.html

After controlling for dietary, physical activity, diabetes, laxative use, and demographic factors, the team found that respondents who were obese or severely obese were 60 percent more likely to have experienced chronic diarrhea compared to those with normal bowel habits or constipation.

60 FREAKING PERCENT. If that figure even remotely relates to the bigger picture...

Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women)

60% of 70 million= 42 million

That means somewhere around 42 MILLION obese people in this country alone have something seriously wrong with their gut.

Approx 330 million people in the US. 42 million is almost 8% of the population!

8 percent of the population is obese with chronic diarrhea.... And obese people never talk about it because people would just blame them no matter what.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, September 24, 2019 2:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Some numbers just got a little bit clearer...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-09-obesity-abnormal-bowel-habitsno
t-diet.html

After controlling for dietary, physical activity, diabetes, laxative use, and demographic factors, the team found that respondents who were obese or severely obese were 60 percent more likely to have experienced chronic diarrhea compared to those with normal bowel habits or constipation.

60 FREAKING PERCENT. If that figure even remotely relates to the bigger picture...

Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women)

60% of 70 million= 42 million

That means somewhere around 42 MILLION obese people in this country alone have something seriously wrong with their gut.

Approx 330 million people in the US. 42 million is almost 8% of the population!

8 percent of the population is obese with chronic diarrhea.... And obese people never talk about it because people would just blame them no matter what.

Where is the connection here to sulfates, sulphur?

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:38 AM

Sulfite/sulfate intolerance is a metabolic disorder that causes diarrhea.

Metabolic disorder =Obesity

Nearly all who are on the autism spectrum have "transsulfuration pathway differences".

The more autistic a person is =the more likely to be obese.

Obese people are far more likely to have chronic diarrhea.

= somewhere between 1-42 million people have a sulfur intolerance.

Genetics is never absolute, so you cannot say all people in a group have X problem, but it's looking more and more likely.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, October 1, 2019 10:34 AM

I read today that they think overdoses of propionates (mold inhibitors in bread and cheese) also produce the over-formation of glial cells and possibly dis-regulate how we process sugars (in a small trial).

I wouldn't be surprised if they work together with sulfites, with the sulfites allowing for the mutation to happen and then the glials over-form to cause Autism, and then because people with Autism have sulfur sensitive gut bacteria it forms an ever-increasing cycle..

Propionates have been added to foods since 1930's, btw. Can't find when bisulfites were introduced, but gran says she thinks it was around the 50's they started adding a "new" food preservative.

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, October 8, 2019 11:55 AM

Results showed that the brains of the children with ASD had increased numbers of a protein called Interleukin-18 (IL-18).

This particularly occurred in the amygdala, the part of the brain that is responsible for detecting fear, and the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which is involved in cognitive skills that include working memory, attention and evaluating rewards.

IL-18 is known to bring about serious inflammatory responses, which suggests it may play a role in some inflammatory diseases, particularly of the skin such as psoriasis.

Researchers also found increased numbers - but not as many - of IL-37, which is an anti-inflammatory protein.

They believe that drugs that target IL-37 could be a therapeutic treatment and decrease the amount of IL-18 in the brain.

Inflammation is usually a response, not an initial cause.

Once again, too much sulfur is inflammatory.

Kids with ASD even PISS MORE SULFUR.
When compared with urine samples from control children, the urine samples from children with ASD contain higher levels of 2-(4-hydroxyphenyl) propionate and taurocholenate sulfate and lower levels of 3-(3-hydroxyphenyl) propionate and 5-amino-valerate (Ming et al., 2012). 3-(3-hydroxyphenyl)-3-hydroxypropanoic acid, a phenylalanine metabolite of Clostridia spp. was shown to be increased in the urine of ASD patients and is associated with autistic behaviors in animals (Shaw, 2010).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, February 4, 2020 5:07 AM

found out last night that the myelin in the brain is formed from a type of sulfate, so... smoking gun here...

Obviously if the DNA can't handle it there will be problems...

PROVED RIGHT!

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-02-links-autism-specific-cell-pave
s.html

People with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) appear to suffer malfunctions in a cell that produces a special coating around nerve fibers that facilitates efficient electrical communication across the brain. And correcting it could offer a potential new avenue for treatment, according to a new study published today in the journal Nature Neuroscience from scientists at the Lieber Institute for Brain Development (LIBD).