Assange arrested

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SIGNYM

Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:51 PM

For what? The Swedish charges against him were dropped a long time ago. Assange will probably be extradited to the USA for being a journalist and publishing things that the USA deep state would rather he didn't.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-11/julian-assange-arre
sted-after-ecuador-drops-asylum-protection

SECOND

Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:18 PM

Per usual, Signym understood nothing, but couldn't help but have a misinformed opinion:

The single charge, conspiracy to commit computer intrusion, was filed in March 2018, and stems from what prosecutors said was Assange's agreement to break a password to a classified United States government computer. It carries a penalty of up to five years in prison and is significant in that it is not an espionage charge, a detail that will come as a relief to press freedom advocates.
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/754-assange-indictment/d093e7d
c7982f7fe4c24/optimized/full.pdf

In a sovereign decision Ecuador withdrew the asylum status to Julian Assange after his repeated violations to international conventions and daily-life protocols. "The discourteous and aggressive behavior of Mr. Julian Assange, the hostile and threatening declarations of his allied organization, against Ecuador, and especially the transgression of international treaties" meant the situation is "unsustainable and no longer viable," Moreno said in a video message posted Thursday on Twitter. https://twitter.com/Lenin/status/1116271659512684544

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

REAVERFAN

Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:20 PM

What was that about a sealed indictment, again?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/julian-assange-indictme
nt-wikileaks.html

SECOND

Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
What was that about a sealed indictment, again?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/us/politics/julian-assange-indictme
nt-wikileaks.html

Maybe it is a secret second indictment in addition to this one: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/754-assange-indictment/d093e7d
c7982f7fe4c24/optimized/full.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:59 PM

Considering how badly #Russiagate is going (do they know something ahead of time about the Mueller report that we don't know, like perhaps it's a big fat dud?), and how badly #Brexit is going - well, they needed some distracting happy news for the war mongers.

You know those goalposts that were so important? QUICK!! LOOK OVER THERE INSTEAD!!

And shazaam! Two country's PR nightmares --- solved! At the same time!

SECOND

Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Considering how badly #Russiagate is going (do they know something ahead of time about the Mueller report that we don't know, like perhaps it's a big fat dud?), and how badly #Brexit is going - well, they needed some distracting happy news for the war mongers.

You know those goalposts that were so important? QUICK!! LOOK OVER THERE INSTEAD!!

And shazaam! Two country's PR nightmares --- solved! At the same time!

The Federal Court system handles thousands of cases simultaneously. Assange and Trump would be two. There is capacity to handle two more cases. And there is plenty of time for a second Brexit referendum. It was "astonishing" that 27 European countries could agree a "lot more readily" than UK politicians. If the UK politicians can't get their act together and get to an agreement the only other option is to go back to the people and have a second referendum to see whether people still feel the same way now that they did almost three years ago and resolve it that way.
www.bbc.com/news/business-47891982

Two Russian hackers are suspected of meddling in the attempt to destabilize the government and their information will be delivered to the Office of the Attorney General of Ecuador, Romi said. Julian Assange's asylum was revoked because there was sufficient evidence that he was meddling in Ecuador's internal affairs in an effort to destabilize the government. During former President Correa's government and while Patiño was chancellor, "they tolerated things like Assange putting feces on the embassy walls and other behaviors far from the minimum respect that a guest can have," said Romo.
www.cnn.com/uk/live-news/julian-assange-arrest-dle-gbr-intl/h_44c547fc
819d7e94b7bfc02bb91949c9

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 12, 2019 3:34 AM

Democrats love stomping out whistle blowers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Friday, April 12, 2019 8:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrats love stomping out whistle blowers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This is Trump's DOJ. Democrats aren't doing this.

Obama chose to not go after him.

Trump: I love Wikileaks.

Also Trump: I know nohing about Wikileaks.

RUE

Friday, April 12, 2019 8:43 AM

But when Obama waged war on whistle-blowers it was ok?

Let me hear you raise just one objection to Obama's heinous actions. Just one.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/employee-speech-and-whistleblowe
rs/leak-prosecutions-obama-takes-it-11-or-should-we

https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jan/10/jake-tapp
er/cnns-tapper-obama-has-used-espionage-act-more-all-/

https://washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/obama-has-sentenced-whistleblowers
-to-31-times-the-jail-time-of-all-prior-u-s-presidents-combined.html

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/obamas-whistleblowers-stu
xnet-leaks-drones/

https://www.mediaite.com/online/traitors-or-heroes-all-of-the-whistleb
lowers-whove-been-prosecuted-by-obama-administration/

https://www.longislandpress.com/2017/01/14/obamas-legacy-historic-war-
on-whistleblowers/

REAVERFAN

Friday, April 12, 2019 8:45 AM

Nice try. Trump is our president, not Obama. Please keep up, kiki.

RUE

Friday, April 12, 2019 11:19 AM

But when OBAMA does the same with say Manning or Snowden, it's all OK!!!

Right?

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, April 12, 2019 12:08 PM

The Deep State is at it again eh Siggy/Rue!?

Ah, the irony. False arrest of a "fake" journalist or is that "fake" news of
a false arrest. Or is it.....?

Trump must be ever at the ready...Twitter Thumbs do your thing!

Could you speak up please!!!

Last I heard, "spying" is a Big Deal!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
For what? The Swedish charges against him were dropped a long time ago. Assange will probably be extradited to the USA for being a journalist and publishing things that the USA deep state would rather he didn't.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-11/julian-assange-arre
sted-after-ecuador-drops-asylum-protection

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, April 12, 2019 12:14 PM

Whistleblowers suck, unless they're Democrats.

3, 2, 1.....

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrats love stomping out whistle blowers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

RUE

Friday, April 12, 2019 12:24 PM

It's only Thursday, it's getting late, and here you are - drunk-posting - again. Crap man, you got to cut that out.

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, April 12, 2019 12:49 PM

Motherfucker! Why don't you guys take out a dollar and buy a clue. You post the same tired old bullshit posts about drunkenness. Hmmm, seems to me you guys know way too much about it.

Well, I'm not wasting any more time on this pathetic attempt.

Bye!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
It's only Thursday, it's getting late, and here you are - drunk-posting - again. Crap man, you got to cut that out.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 12, 2019 5:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrats love stomping out whistle blowers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
This is Trump's DOJ. Democrats aren't doing this.

Obama chose to not go after him.

Trump: I love Wikileaks.

Also Trump: I know nohing about Wikileaks.

This isn't Trump. This isn't the American government. This is the UK government.

That being said, I'm going to be pretty pissed off if Trump doesn't make a stand against this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Friday, April 12, 2019 7:21 PM

Read what I wrote. Sound out the words.

SECOND

Friday, April 12, 2019 9:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
But when Obama waged war on whistle-blowers it was ok?

Let me hear you raise just one objection to Obama's heinous actions. Just one.

Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute — and not pardon — her sentence."

Obama was absolutely right, but he did NOT go after a whistle-blower, no matter how many times you mischaracterize it. It was the Pentagon, not Obama's fault. Military Justice is to justice as Military Music is to music. Nothing Obama can do about that.

Obama was faced with the dilemma of Manning screwing up perfectly justifiable whistle-blowing: Chelsea Manning had access to classified databases. In early 2010, she leaked classified information to WikiLeaks and confided this to Adrian Lamo, an online acquaintance. Lamo indirectly informed the Army's Criminal Investigation Command, and Manning was arrested in May that same year. If Manning had a tiny bit of sense, and not told Lamo, Manning would have stayed out of jail. Whistle-blowing was a great idea. Getting caught was idiotic of Manning. Obama couldn't save Manning from the Military law because Obama takes law enforcement seriously, unlike Trump.

Obama had to enforce the law about stealing secrets, but also Obama obviously approved of the whistle-blowing because he commuted Chelsea Manning's sentence. He did not have to do that.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RUE

Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:16 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/how-you-can-be-certain-us-ch
arge-against-assange-fraudulent

links to original documents in ZH

RUE

Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:26 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-11/dojs-entire-case-against-ass
ange-hinges-one-critical-piece-evidence

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Read what I wrote. Sound out the words.

I did.

This has nothing to do with the American government.

The "far right" in the UK is further left than Obama was, so I'm not seeing your point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Saturday, April 13, 2019 7:33 PM

The Legal Narrative Funnel That’s Being Used To Extradite Assange
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/04/13/the-legal-narrative-funnel-tha
ts-being-used-to-extradite-assange/

Now, the US is a Free Democracy™. When you are a Free Democracy™, you can’t just go around imprisoning journalists willy nilly simply for telling the truth about your government. That’s something other countries do, bad countries, the kind of country the US routinely invades in order to help spread Freedom and Democracy™. The US would never do that. But it would diddle a bunch of narratives in such a way that just so happens to achieve exactly the same result.

As we discussed yesterday, the Trump administration’s extradition request is accompanied by criminal charges which are based on the same information which the Obama administration declined to charge Assange for, a point which has been discussed in more detail in a new article by The Intercept‘s Glenn Greenwald and Micah Lee. The Obama administration looked at the evidence and concluded that there was no way to charge Assange with anything without endangering press freedoms, then the Trump administration looked at literally the exact same evidence and said screw press freedoms, we’re going after him. They wanted to punish Assange and show the world what happens to a journalist who exposes US war crimes, so they changed the narrative to make it happen.

Pretty fashy, wouldn't you say?

THG

Saturday, April 13, 2019 8:04 PM

Assange's claim that he is a journalist is false, as he has proven time and again. That he is not a journalist, however, will not preclude authoritarian governments from using his case to thwart the legitimate media.

Over time it became evident that his quest for transparency was not universal. Instead, Assange and his group have shown their agenda is anything but that. They are curiously selective in their targets, and their work has hewed closely to Putin's agenda.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/julian-assange-is-an-activist-n
ot-a-journalist/ar-BBVQW3O?ocid=spartandhp

Assange is not a journalist. His activities are limited to attacking democratic countries. He can't be both an activist and a journalist.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, April 14, 2019 5:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Assange's claim that he is a journalist is false, as he has proven time and again. That he is not a journalist, however, will not preclude authoritarian governments from using his case to thwart the legitimate media.

Over time it became evident that his quest for transparency was not universal. Instead, Assange and his group have shown their agenda is anything but that. They are curiously selective in their targets, and their work has hewed closely to Putin's agenda.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/julian-assange-is-an-activist-n
ot-a-journalist/ar-BBVQW3O?ocid=spartandhp

Assange is not a journalist. His activities are limited to attacking democratic countries. He can't be both an activist and a journalist.

T

If you apply that logic to all journalists out there on both sides, then you no longer have any journalists.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, April 14, 2019 5:40 AM

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 17, 2019 1:25 PM

Too funny not to share

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

REAVERFAN

Friday, April 19, 2019 9:00 PM

Mueller Report: Assange Smeared Seth Rich to Cover for Russians
Julian Assange repeatedly blamed Seth Rich, the murdered DNC staffer, for Russia’s leaks. The Mueller report shows that Assange was lying from the start.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-report-julian-assange-smeared-se
th-rich-to-cover-for-russians

Thursday’s long-anticipated release adds new details about Assange’s interactions with the officers in Russia’s Main Intelligence Directorate. Still, it leaves one question unanswered: Why was Assange so determined to exonerate the Russian intelligence agents who gave him the material?

Hmm... That's a real head-scratcher...

SIGNYM

Friday, April 19, 2019 9:26 PM

Well, I noiced that Assange's arrest was timed to conveniently put him out of the way in a maximum security prison so he couldn't speak for himself after the Mueller report was issued.

It looks like Ecuador drove a hard bargain, knowing that timeliness was an issue, because they got their $4.2 billion IMF loan (which dollars to donuts the Ecudorain elite will use to line their pockets and then leave the poor holding the bag, and making them suffer thru "austerity" to pay it back.)

$4.2 billion; that's a lot more than 30 pieces of silver!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

SIGNYM

Friday, April 19, 2019 9:37 PM

From te WSJ ...

Quote:
By the fall of 2017, it was clear that special counsel Robert Mueller, as a former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, was too conflicted to take a detached look at a Russia-collusion story that had become more about FBI malfeasance than about Donald Trump. The evidence of that bias now stares at us through 448 pages of his report.

President Trump has every right to feel liberated. What the report shows is that he endured a special-counsel probe that was relentlessly, at times farcically, obsessed with taking him out. What stands out is just how diligently and creatively the special counsel’s legal minds worked to implicate someone in Trump World on something Russia- or obstruction-of-justice-related. And how—even with all its overweening power and aggressive tactics—it still struck out.

Volume I of the Mueller report, which deals with collusion, spends tens of thousands of words describing trivial interactions between Trump officials and various Russians. While it doubtless wasn’t Mr. Mueller’s intention, the sheer quantity and banality of details highlights the degree to which these contacts were random, haphazard and peripheral. By the end of Volume I, the notion that the Trump campaign engaged in some grand plot with Russia is a joke.

Yet jump to the section where the Mueller team lists its “prosecution and declination” decisions with regards the Russia question. And try not to picture Mueller “pit bull” prosecutor Andrew Weissmann collapsed under mountains of federal statutes after his two-year hunt to find one that applied.

Mr. Mueller’s team mulled bringing charges “for the crime of conspiracy—either under statutes that have their own conspiracy language,” or “under the general conspiracy statute.” It debated going after them for the “defraud clause,” which “criminalizes participating in an agreement to obstruct a lawful function of the U.S. government.” It considered the crime of acting as an “agent of a foreign government”—helpfully noting that this crime does not require “willfulness.”

Up to now, the assumption was that Mr. Mueller had resurrected long-ago violations of the rarely enforced Foreign Agent Registration Act of 1938 purely to apply pressure on folks like Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn. Now we find out that it was resurrected in hopes of applying it to campaign-period actions of minor figures such as Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.

Mueller’s team even considered charging Trump associates who participated with campaign-finance violations for the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. Was that meeting “a conspiracy to violate the foreign contributions ban”? Was it “the solicitation of an illegal foreign source contribution”? Was it the receipt of “an express or implied promise to make a [foreign source] contribution”? The team considered that the law didn’t apply only to money—it could apply to a “thing of value.”

Really??

Quote:
Until investigators realized it might be hard to prove the “promised documents” exceeded the “$2,000 threshold for a criminal violation.” The Mueller team even credited Democrats’ talking point that former Attorney General Jeff Sessions had committed perjury during his confirmation hearings—and devoted a section in the report to it.

As for obstruction—Volume II—Attorney General Bill Barr noted Thursday that he disagreed with “some of the special counsel’s legal theories.” Maybe he had in mind Mr. Mueller’s proposition that he was entitled to pursue obstruction questions, even though that was not part of his initial mandate from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Or maybe it was Mr. Mueller’s long description of what a prosecution of the sitting president might look like—even though he acknowledged its legal impossibility. Or it could be Mr. Mueller’s theory that while “fairness” dictates that someone accused of crimes get a “speedy and public trial” to “clear his name,” Mr. Trump deserves no such courtesy with regard to the 200 pages of ac

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1KIKI

Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:59 AM

“In 20 years of work with victims of war, violence and political persecution I have never seen a group of democratic States ganging up to deliberately isolate, demonise and abuse a single individual for such a long time and with so little regard for human dignity and the rule of law,” declared Nils Melzer, the UN special rapporteur on torture.

A New Kind of Tyranny: The Global State’s War on Those Who Speak Truth to Power

The Deep State has embarked on a ruthless, take-no-prisoners, all-out assault on truth-tellers.

Activists, journalists and whistleblowers alike are being terrorized, traumatized, tortured and subjected to the fear-inducing, mind-altering, soul-destroying, smash-your-face-in tactics employed by the superpowers-that-be.

Take Julian Assange, for example.

In true Orwellian fashion ... the government would have us believe that it is Assange and Manning who are the real criminals for daring to expose the war machine’s seedy underbelly.

Since his April 2019 arrest, Assange has been locked up in a maximum-security British prison—in solitary confinement for up to 23 hours a day—pending extradition to the U.S., where if convicted, he could be sentenced to 175 years in prison.

Whatever is being done to Assange behind those prison walls—psychological torture, forced drugging, prolonged isolation, intimidation, surveillance—it’s wearing him down.

In court appearances, the 48-year-old Assange appears disoriented, haggard and zombie-like.

“In 20 years of work with victims of war, violence and political persecution I have never seen a group of democratic States ganging up to deliberately isolate, demonise and abuse a single individual for such a long time and with so little regard for human dignity and the rule of law,” declared Nils Melzer, the UN special rapporteur on torture.

It’s not just Assange who is being made to suffer, however.

Manning, who was jailed for seven years from 2010 to 2017 for leaking classified documents to Wikileaks, was arrested in March 2019 for refusing to testify before a grand jury about Assange, placed in solitary confinement for almost a month, and then sentenced to remain in jail either until she agrees to testify or until the grand jury’s 18-month term expires.

Federal judge Anthony J. Trenga of the Eastern District of Virginia also fined Manning $500 for every day she remained in custody after 30 days, and $1,000 for every day she remains in custody after 60 days, a chilling—and financially crippling—example of the government’s heavy-handed efforts to weaponize fines and jail terms as a means of forcing dissidents to fall in line.

This is how the police state deals with those who challenge its chokehold on power.

Yet while this targeted campaign—aided, abetted and advanced by the Deep State’s international alliances—is unfolding during President Trump’s watch, it began with the Obama Administration’s decision to revive the antiquated, hundred-year-old Espionage Act, which was intended to punish government spies, and instead use it to prosecute government whistleblowers.

Unfortunately, the Trump Administration has not merely continued the Obama Administration’s attack on whistleblowers. It has injected this war on truth-tellers and truth-seekers with steroids and let it loose on the First Amendment.

In May 2019, Trump’s Justice Department issued a sweeping new “superseding” secret indictment of Assange—hinged on the Espionage Act—that empowers the government to determine what counts as legitimate journalism and criminalize the rest, not to mention giving “the government license to criminally punish journalists it does not like, based on antipathy, vague standards, and subjective judgments.”

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_comm
entary/a_new_kind_of_tyranny_the_global_states_war_on_those_who_speak_truth_to_power

read the complete article - with active links to original sources - at the link above

THG

Saturday, November 9, 2019 4:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Democrats love stomping out whistle blowers.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

2 funny...

T

1KIKI

Saturday, November 9, 2019 5:38 AM

Yeah, your kind finds false arrest, solitary confinement, and torture ... funny.

A billion flies eat shit.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, November 9, 2019 12:38 PM

What's funny about it?

He's not a whistleblower, no matter what the Legacy Media wants you to think.

This was all premeditated partisan hackery, and the details of it all are starting to unravel.

Meanwhile, true whistleblowers and heroes like Assange and Snowden get Democrats trying their damnedest to ruin their lives for their service.

Democrats are absolute shit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

THG

Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What's funny about it?

He's not a whistleblower, no matter what the Legacy Media wants you to think.

This was all premeditated partisan hackery, and the details of it all are starting to unravel.

Meanwhile, true whistleblowers and heroes like Assange and Snowden get Democrats trying their damnedest to ruin their lives for their service.

Democrats are absolute shit.

Trump, our government and the media disagree with you. They all describe this person as a whistleblower. Oops...
T

THG

Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:07 PM

T

Seth takes a closer look at White House officials stonewalling the impeachment inquiry as Republicans shift their defense of the President.

THG

Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

What's funny about it?

He's not a whistleblower, no matter what the Legacy Media wants you to think. This was all premeditated partisan hackery, and the details of it all are starting to unravel. Meanwhile, true whistleblowers and heroes like Assange and Snowden get Democrats trying their damnedest to ruin their lives for their service. Democrats are absolute shit.

This Jack, this is what's funny about it. And it's your favorite person on the planet explaining what's funny. It's your favorite person on the planet explaining how it's not unraveling at all. Instead she shows how it gets worse daily for your hero. Sorry if facts hurt your head Jack. You could embrace them and get back on track.

T

Witness Paints Trump Scheme, Russian Threat In Vivid Detail

AURAPTOR

Saturday, November 9, 2019 8:05 PM

Eric CIAramella is not a whistle blower. He's a DNC asset and an Obama / Biden sycophant.

Everyone knows this.

The establishment are trying to gaslight useful idiots and this board is proof there's a gullible populace.

Just like the Mueller report. Just like Jessie Smollett. Just like the Covington Catholic HS kids. Just like the Kavanaugh accusations, etc..

All fake. All contrived and fabricated outrage, w/ the specific intent to sway and anger. Nothing more.

THG

Saturday, November 9, 2019 8:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Eric CIAramella is not a whistle blower. He's a DNC asset and an Obama / Biden sycophant.

Everyone knows this.

The establishment are trying to gaslight useful idiots and this board is proof there's a gullible populace.

Just like the Mueller report. Just like Jessie Smollett. Just like the Covington Catholic HS kids. Just like the Kavanaugh accusations, etc..

All fake. All contrived and fabricated outrage, w/ the specific intent to sway and anger. Nothing more.

Another rube, country bumpkin expressing quaint perceptions even though the facts say otherwise.

tick tock rube

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, November 9, 2019 8:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Eric CIAramella is not a whistle blower. He's a DNC asset and an Obama / Biden sycophant.

Everyone knows this.

The establishment are trying to gaslight useful idiots and this board is proof there's a gullible populace.

Just like the Mueller report. Just like Jessie Smollett. Just like the Covington Catholic HS kids. Just like the Kavanaugh accusations, etc..

All fake. All contrived and fabricated outrage, w/ the specific intent to sway and anger. Nothing more.

Another rube, country bumpkin expressing quaint perceptions even though the facts say otherwise.

tick tock rube

T

Lived in the Chicago or Milwaukee suburbs all my life, retard.

If you're looking for country bumpkins, look to Nilbog.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

AURAPTOR

Saturday, November 9, 2019 9:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Another rube, country bumpkin expressing quaint perceptions even though the facts say otherwise.

tick tock rube

All the name calling and insults won't save you or make your case for you.

The facts are on my side.

I understand it makes you angry, because the obvious implication is that Trump ( in this case ) continues to be President and all that entails, but that's simply too bad.

Hillary lost.

Get over it.

Trump is your President now.

Accept it. Acknowledge it. Move on.

1KIKI

Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What's funny about it?

He's not a whistleblower, no matter what the Legacy Media wants you to think.

This was all premeditated partisan hackery, and the details of it all are starting to unravel.

Meanwhile, true whistleblowers and heroes like Assange and Snowden get Democrats trying their damnedest to ruin their lives for their service.

Democrats are absolute shit.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Trump, our government and the media disagree with you. They all describe this person as a whistleblower. Oops...

Here's what the office of legal council has to say about that.
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine-cleari
nghouse-olc-letter-to-icig-and-cigie-.2019.10.25.pdf

A billion flies eat shit.

THG

Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Another rube, country bumpkin expressing quaint perceptions even though the facts say otherwise.

tick tock rube

All the name calling and insults won't save you or make your case for you.

The facts are on my side.

I understand it makes you angry, because the obvious implication is that Trump ( in this case ) continues to be President and all that entails, but that's simply too bad.

Hillary lost.

Get over it.

Trump is your President now.

Accept it. Acknowledge it. Move on.

You are a rube because you’re stuck on Hillary. Nothing I’m posting myself or the others here that take issue with Trump are posting has anything to do with Hillary. It’s been that way for a long time now. That’s because she has nothing to do with what’s going on with Trump. Nothing at all. This tells me you are incapable of understanding anything that isn’t pro what you want. It also makes you a rube.

tick tock

T

THG

Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:51 AM

Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.

T

1KIKI

Sunday, November 10, 2019 1:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

Thanks for the laugh!!! It's so funny when you're/your so pompously wrong! That's especially true because a really short trip to google could have told you what you needed to know. But you 'figured' you knew something. And like a lot of your 'knowledge', it was only a false belief. Pompously asserted.

So, no, ALL flies do NOT eat shit!

But since your/you're thinking seems to be very limited, let me explain the phrase to you. A billion flies eat shit. It means that something isn't true JUST BECAUSE a lot of people say-so.

It's a shorter way of illustrating the logical fallacy argumentum ad populum.

Argumentum ad populum. ... In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "argument to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:04 AM

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hearing was case management; to determine the timetable for the extradition proceedings. T

THG

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

Thanks for the laugh!!! It's so funny when you're/your so pompously wrong! That's especially true because a really short trip to google could have told you what you needed to know. But you 'figured' you knew something. And like a lot of your 'knowledge', it was only a false belief. Pompously asserted.

So, no, ALL flies do NOT eat shit!

But since your/you're thinking seems to be very limited, let me explain the phrase to you. A billion flies eat shit. It means that something isn't true JUST BECAUSE a lot of people say-so.

It's a shorter way of illustrating the logical fallacy argumentum ad populum.

Argumentum ad populum. ... In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "argument to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum]

Watch out, kiki learned a new word. As usual she thinks it justifies her aversion to the facts; it doesn't. Facts are facts kiki and there's no way around it.

Most people think the mainstream media is a good source of information. They are correct. I believe Trump is a parasite. I am correct as well.

As for some flies existing that don’t eat shit, prove it. As usual you post stuff in lieu of the facts. Links please...

There are elements in urine that drive flies and other pests away but nothing in shit.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:46 AM

OK - you want me to prove you wrong. And, you are. Not all flies eat shit. And here are the facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia
Two feces-eating insects are certain species of fly and the dung beetle.

https://www.terminix.com/blog/education/what-do-flies-eat-faqs/
Tachnid flies also feed on plant nectar as adults, but in their larval stage, they dine on other insects. Hessian flies eat grass, while bot flies eat animal tissue. Contrary to popular belief, fruit flies don't actually eat fruit. Instead, they eat the yeast cells that grow on fruit, particularly rotting fruit.

https://www.jcehrlich.com/flies/what-do-flies-eat/
What do fruit flies eat?

Fruit Flies are attracted to fermented food and liquid sources, which is why they are so common in homes and the food industry. Fruit flies search for foods such as:

Liquids: beer, wine, cider, vinegar
Fruits such as bananas, grapes, peaches, pineapples, tomatoes, mustard pickles, potatoes, onions, etc.
Sugary substances, like candy

What do blow flies eat?

Blow/bottle flies are fairly large flies with metallic blue, green, bronze or black sheen. They are infamously known for burrowing themselves into their food, which is where they develop. They are usually the first insects to arrive after an animal dies. These flies prefer:

Fresh or decaying meat
Animal carcasses

A billion flies eat shit.

But not ALL flies eat shit.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:47 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep the thread ON TOPIC.

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hearing

THG

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:57 AM

Kiki, none of your links suggests anything other than, based on what the flies you've listed eat, shit would be on the menu.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:21 AM

Did you not post that ALL flies eat shit? It says it right here, in your post ...

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Kiki, all flies eat shit. I was waiting for you to figure that out yourself. Apparently you are incapable of doing so.

Do you not know what that means? It means that there are no exceptions. And yet, there ARE exceptions! Only CERTAIN flies eat shit!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophagia
Two feces-eating insects are certain species of fly and the dung beetle.

Or do you not understand what SHIT is? SHIT is not plant nectar. SHIT is not 'insects'. SHIT is not meat. SHIT is not grass. SHIT is not 'animal tissue'. SHIT is not yeast. SHIT is not beer, wine, cider, vinegar, fruits such as bananas, grapes, peaches, pineapples, tomatoes, mustard pickles, potatoes, onions, etc. or sugary substances, like candy. SHIT is also not fresh or decaying meat, or animal carcasses.

https://www.terminix.com/blog/education/what-do-flies-eat-faqs/
Tachnid flies also feed on plant nectar as adults, but in their larval stage, they dine on other insects. Hessian flies eat grass, while bot flies eat animal tissue. Contrary to popular belief, fruit flies don't actually eat fruit. Instead, they eat the yeast cells that grow on fruit, particularly rotting fruit.

https://www.jcehrlich.com/flies/what-do-flies-eat/
What do fruit flies eat?

Fruit Flies are attracted to fermented food and liquid sources, which is why they are so common in homes and the food industry. Fruit flies search for foods such as:

Liquids: beer, wine, cider, vinegar
Fruits such as bananas, grapes, peaches, pineapples, tomatoes, mustard pickles, potatoes, onions, etc.
Sugary substances, like candy

What do blow flies eat?

Blow/bottle flies are fairly large flies with metallic blue, green, bronze or black sheen. They are infamously known for burrowing themselves into their food, which is where they develop. They are usually the first insects to arrive after an animal dies. These flies prefer:

Fresh or decaying meat
Animal carcasses

A billion flies eat shit.

But not ALL flies eat shit.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:24 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep the thread ON TOPIC.

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hearing

THG

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

Kiki, none of your links suggests anything other than, based on what the flies you've listed eat, shit would be on the menu.

Oh no, kiki's upset again. One of her tells is that she starts reposting a post she put a lot of work into, and somebody shows it to be nonsense in a sentence or two response. At times like now, her post grows expediently and in size.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:40 AM

Ok - here's my response. I believe it's short enough, and simple enough, for even you to understand. YOU WERE WRONG. There are many kinds of fly that DON'T EVER eat shit, only only certain kinds of fly that specifically DO.

You can ignore the links and the quotes I posted twice, if it makes you feel better.

I will point out though, that other people who have a little more going on upstairs than you do, will have CLEARLY understood both the fact that you were wrong, AND the fact that you kept stupidly insisting you weren't.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:40 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep the thread ON TOPIC.

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hearing

THG

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:53 AM

Yep, kiki's upset. One more repost and I'll be forced to move it all over to the garden thread.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:05 AM

Threats AGAIN, THUGGER?

Are you so out of ideas, out of intelligence, and out of sanity that you have to resort to threats, trolling, LIBEL, and lies?

Are those the only tools in your toolkit?

And - BTW - you were wrong.

A billion flies eat shit.

But not all flies eat shit.

And also btw - THIS IS NOT 'YOUR' THREAD. And I'm not trolling by posting ON TOPIC.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:05 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep the thread ON TOPIC.

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media appears incapable of understanding.

The purpose of yesterday’s hea

THG

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:38 AM

Kiki, you can find your ridiculously long and reposted post in the gardens thread. I added a bit to it for ya.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:42 AM

THIS IS SIGNY'S THREAD. STOP SHITTING UP SIGNY'S THREAD.

A billion flies eat shit.

But you ARE shit.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:44 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep the thread ON TOPIC .

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to do with sex, and nothing to do with the 2016 US election; a simple clarification the mainstream media a

THG

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
THIS IS SIGNY'S THREAD. STOP SHITTING UP SIGNY'S THREAD.

A billion flies eat shit.

But you ARE shit.

Easier said and done. Stop trolling me after I post and it's done. Problem is you can't do that.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:42 AM

Not trolling you, idiot. TRYING TO KEEP SIGNY'S THREAD ON TOPIC.

Can you say shit? You can't? Then I guess you're going to remain nameless.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 11:43 AM

In the meantime, while I appreciate the bump, I hope to keep SIGNY'S THREAD ON TOPIC .

Assange in Court 841
22 Oct, 2019 in Uncategorized by craig

UPDATE I have received scores of requests to republish and/or translate this article. It is absolutely free to use and reproduce and I should be delighted if everybody does; the world should know what is being done to Julian. So far, over 200,000 people have read it on this blogsite alone and it has already been reproduced on myriad other sites, some with much bigger readerships than my own. I have seen translations into German, Spanish and French and at least extracts in Catalan and Turkish. I only ask that you reproduce it complete or, if edits are made, plainly indicate them. Many thanks.

BEGINS

I was deeply shaken while witnessing yesterday’s events in Westminster Magistrates Court. Every decision was railroaded through over the scarcely heard arguments and objections of Assange’s legal team, by a magistrate who barely pretended to be listening.

Before I get on to the blatant lack of fair process, the first thing I must note was Julian’s condition. I was badly shocked by just how much weight my friend has lost, by the speed his hair has receded and by the appearance of premature and vastly accelerated ageing. He has a pronounced limp I have never seen before. Since his arrest he has lost over 15 kg in weight.

But his physical appearance was not as shocking as his mental deterioration. When asked to give his name and date of birth, he struggled visibly over several seconds to recall both. I will come to the important content of his statement at the end of proceedings in due course, but his difficulty in making it was very evident; it was a real struggle for him to articulate the words and focus his train of thought.

Until yesterday I had always been quietly sceptical of those who claimed that Julian’s treatment amounted to torture – even of Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture – and sceptical of those who suggested he may be subject to debilitating drug treatments. But having attended the trials in Uzbekistan of several victims of extreme torture, and having worked with survivors from Sierra Leone and elsewhere, I can tell you that yesterday changed my mind entirely and Julian exhibited exactly the symptoms of a torture victim brought blinking into the light, particularly in terms of disorientation, confusion, and the real struggle to assert free will through the fog of learned helplessness.

I had been even more sceptical of those who claimed, as a senior member of his legal team did to me on Sunday night, that they were worried that Julian might not live to the end of the extradition process. I now find myself not only believing it, but haunted by the thought. Everybody in that court yesterday saw that one of the greatest journalists and most important dissidents of our times is being tortured to death by the state, before our eyes. To see my friend, the most articulate man, the fastest thinker, I have ever known, reduced to that shambling and incoherent wreck, was unbearable. Yet the agents of the state, particularly the callous magistrate Vanessa Baraitser, were not just prepared but eager to be a part of this bloodsport. She actually told him that if he were incapable of following proceedings, then his lawyers could explain what had happened to him later. The question of why a man who, by the very charges against him, was acknowledged to be highly intelligent and competent, had been reduced by the state to somebody incapable of following court proceedings, gave her not a millisecond of concern.

The charge against Julian is very specific; conspiring with Chelsea Manning to publish the Iraq War logs, the Afghanistan war logs and the State Department cables. The charges are nothing to do with Sweden, nothing to

SIGNYM

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:05 PM

What I find astonishing is that even as the so-called "liberal" M$M is wringing its corporate hands over the so-called "whistleblower" (CIA spy) of Ukrainegate ... and its mesmerized followers follow suit ... REAL whistleblowers and the REAL journalists who publish them continue to be pilloried and silenced.

These people love their servitude.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, November 12, 2019 7:33 PM

I don't get it...

Democrats cheered when he was releasing the dirt on the GWB administration and considered Assange somewhat of a hero.

I remember it vividly. I cheered along with them back in those days.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Wednesday, November 13, 2019 4:54 AM

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/will-julian-assange-d
ie-in-prison/

Will Julian Assange Die in Prison?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:56 AM

You can't even say the words "whistleblower" in a youtube video anymore. They've been demonetizing and banning people for using it or the dude's name that has been out in the open for months on both youtube and facebook.

Fucking crazy.

My new favorite word is "flute-tooter".

It's not as if it's rocket science to get around algorithmic censorship.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:28 PM

https://defend.wikileaks.org/2019/09/18/judge-uk-to-imprison-julian-as
sange-after-his-sentence-ends/

British Judge Jails Assange Indefinitely, Despite End Of Sentence

In a surprise “technical hearing” at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on 13 September 2019, Julian Assange was told that he will continue to be detained at HMP Belmarsh to the United States’ extradition request even after his bail sentence ends on 22 September 2019.

District Judge Vanessa Baraitser, who will preside over Julian’s extradition hearing, told Assange, who appeared by video-link,

“You have been produced today because your sentence of imprisonment is about to come to an end. When that happens your remand status changes from a serving prisoner to a person facing extradition.”

The judge’s comments did not appear to be part of any formal ruling, as no bail application had yet been made.

Speaking to Assange, the judge also alleged, “I have given your lawyer an opportunity to make an application for bail on your behalf and she has declined to do so.”

In fact, as Julian Assange’s father John Shipton, who was in the courtroom, explained in an interview, the judge decided on her own to discuss Julian’s bail at what was supposed to be merely a “technical hearing.”

Judge Baraitser “decided to hear a bail application case which wasn’t before her,” Shipton said, “which she promptly refused.” When asked who brought the bail application, he said, “She made it herself.”

SIGNYM

Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:59 PM

Finally, some JUSTICE in the handling of Assnage's case, which has been a perverted show trial and mockery all in one

Quote:
Assange's Judge Out After Military/Intel-Linked Conflicts Of Interest Exposed

Lady Emma Arbuthnot, the Westminster chief magistrate enmeshed in a conflict of interest, will no longer be presiding over the extradition proceedings of imprisoned WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange, said WikiLeaks lawyer Jen Robinson, at an event in Sydney on Friday night .

“Yes, there was some controversy about her sitting on the case,” Robinson said. “She won’t be sitting on the case going forward.”

Robinson told Australian journalist Quentin Dempster at the event that she was “not sure” who would take over from Arbuthnot.

Robinson made her remarks in response to a question from the audience about Arbuthnot’s reported conflict of interest in the case. Robinson did not provide further details. She spoke in future tense, but it is not clear if she was referring to Arbuthnot maintaining supervision of the case while turning over the courtroom duties to another judge, which she did weeks ago, retaining the right to influence rulings, or whether Arbuthnot has recused herself from the case. Consortium News has contacted Robinson to provide clarification.

On Thursday, Matt Kennard and Mark Curtis of the Daily Maverick reported:

“Lady Arbuthnot has recently appointed a district judge to rule on Assange’s extradition case, but remains the supervising legal figure in the process. According to the UK courts service, the chief magistrate is ‘responsible for… supporting and guiding district judge colleagues.’”

The report said that Arbuthnot’s husband, Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom, a former British defense minister, “has financial links to the British military establishment, including institutions and individuals exposed by WikiLeaks.” It said the judge herself had also received gifts “including from a military and cybersecurity company exposed by WikiLeaks.”

The Daily Maverick reported further on Friday:

“The son of Lady Emma Arbuthnot, the Westminster chief magistrate overseeing the extradition proceedings of Julian Assange, is the vice-president and cyber-security adviser of a firm heavily invested in a company founded by GCHQ and MI5 which seeks to stop data leaks, it can be revealed.

Alexander Arbuthnot’s employer, the private equity firm Vitruvian Partners, has a multimillion-pound investment in Darktrace, a cyber-security company which is also staffed by officials recruited directly from the US National Security Agency (NSA) and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

These intelligence agencies are behind the US government’s prosecution of Julian Assange for publishing secret documents. Darktrace has also had access to two former UK prime ministers and former US President Barack Obama.

The revelations raise further concerns about potential conflicts of interests and appearance of bias concerning Lady Arbuthnot and the ties of her family members to the UK and US military and intelligence establishments. Lady Arbuthnot’s husband is Lord James Arbuthnot, a former UK defence minister who has extensive links to the UK military community.

UK legal guidance states that “any conflict of interest in a litigious situation must be declared.” Judicial guidance to magistrates from the Lord Chancellor and the Lord Chief Justice is clear

MORE AT

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/assanges-judge-out-after-confli
cts-interest-exposed

Much has been made of the judge's irrational rulings and extremely biased behavior from the bench. I hope that going forward she's completely removed from the case, and that her earlier rulings are reversed.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

1KIKI

Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:50 AM

This has nothing at all to do with the reason Assange is still in a maximum security prison in isolation after he served his bail sentence.

Still, it's an event.

Sweden drops Julian Assange rape investigation after 9 years

1KIKI

Tuesday, January 5, 2021 12:32 AM

So far, so good.

UK judge denies US request to extradite Julian Assange

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/uk/julian-assange-extradition-wikil
eaks-us-gbr-intl/index.html

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 5, 2021 1:16 AM

Trump should pardon Assange.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, January 6, 2021 6:05 PM

A British judge denied bail on Wednesday for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, after she rejected a US request on Monday to extradite him to America.

Judge Vanessa Baraitser said in her Wednesday ruling that "there are substantial grounds for believing that if Mr. Assange is released today he would fail to surrender to court and face the appeal proceedings."

The US said it would appeal against the decision on Monday and asked for Assange to be remanded in custody while that process was ongoing. US prosecutors had argued on Wednesday that Assange had already shown he was "capable of going to extraordinary lengths to avoid extradition," noting his seven-year stay inside a Ecuadorian embassy in London.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/uk/julian-assange-bail-denied-gbr-intl/
index.html

Releasing this video caused most of Assange's legal troubles.
WikiLeaks video: 'Collateral murder' in Iraq

WikiLeaks, a website that publishes anonymously sourced documents, has released a video showing what apparently is a US military helicopter firing at unarmed civilians in Iraq. WikiLeaks said the footage, filmed from a helicopter cockpit, shows a missile strike and shooting on a square in a Baghdad neighbourhood in July 2007. The website said 12 civilians were killed in the attack, including two journalists, Namir Nour El Deen and Saeed Chmagh, who worked for the Reuters news agency. This is the full, unedited version of the footage.

An in-depth analysis of a leaked military video showing a US army helicopter firing on Iraqis.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 6, 2021 7:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
A British judge denied bail on Wednesday for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, after she rejected a US request on Monday to extradite him to America.

Judge Vanessa Baraitser said in her Wednesday ruling that "there are substantial grounds for believing that if Mr. Assange is released today he would fail to surrender to court and face the appeal proceedings."

The US said it would appeal against the decision on Monday and asked for Assange to be remanded in custody while that process was ongoing. US prosecutors had argued on Wednesday that Assange had already shown he was "capable of going to extraordinary lengths to avoid extradition," noting his seven-year stay inside a Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Releasing this video caused most of Assange's legal troubles.
WikiLeaks, a website that publishes anonymously sourced documents, has released a video showing what apparently is a US military helicopter firing at unarmed civilians in Iraq. WikiLeaks said the footage, filmed from a helicopter cockpit, shows a missile strike and shooting on a square in a Baghdad neighbourhood in July 2007. The website said 12 civilians were killed in the attack, including two journalists, Namir Nour El Deen and Saeed Chmagh, who worked for the Reuters news agency. This is the full, unedited version of the footage.

An in-depth analysis of a leaked military video showing a US army helicopter firing on Iraqis.

At the very beginning of this thread, I posted

Quote:
For what? The Swedish charges against him were dropped a long time ago. Assange will probably be extradited to the USA for being a journalist and publishing things that the USA deep state would rather he didn't.
Which SECOND poo-pooed, of course.

Now, SECOND is making my case for me.

Once upon a time, the publisher of the Pentagon Papers got a Pulitzer. Today they would be rotting in maximum security in Colorado.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, January 6, 2021 7:40 PM

The Democrats I like to remember on FFF.net thought that Assange wes a hero.

I'd like to think that they're still out there and that the ones we're left here don't really represent reality.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, January 6, 2021 7:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Now, SECOND is making my case for me.

Once upon a time, the publisher of the Pentagon Papers got a Pulitzer. Today they would be rotting in maximum security in Colorado.

It is up to the President to right whatever wrongs the jury system failed to handle, but we all know that Presidents don't look into every trial, don't we? On the other hand, Assange never had a trial because of his flightiness. A President still could have pardoned him before a trial, but that doesn't happen except in very rare cases where the President has some personal connection to the potential defendant. One huge example of a personal connection: President Andrew Johnson pardoned all the slave-owners after the Civil War because he was also a slave-owner. President Johnson was also taking bribes from the people he pardoned, but Johnson was as crooked as a person can be.

I don’t know why Assange is still being pursued by Trump’s people, maybe because there hasn't been a trial or because Trump has no personal connection to Assange, but Manning, who gave the information to Assange, was released by Obama. Let me repeat from April 2019:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63040&mid=10739
87#1073987

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
But when Obama waged war on whistle-blowers it was ok?

Let me hear you raise just one objection to Obama's heinous actions. Just one.

Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute — and not pardon — her sentence."

Obama was absolutely right, but he did NOT go after a whistle-blower, no matter how many times you mischaracterize it. It was the Pentagon, not Obama's fault. Military Justice is to justice as Military Music is to music. Nothing Obama can do about that.

Obama was faced with the dilemma of Manning screwing up perfectly justifiable whistle-blowing: Chelsea Manning had access to classified databases. In early 2010, she leaked classified information to WikiLeaks and confided this to Adrian Lamo, an online acquaintance. Lamo indirectly informed the Army's Criminal Investigation Command, and Manning was arrested in May that same year. If Manning had a tiny bit of sense, and not told Lamo, Manning would have stayed out of jail. Whistle-blowing was a great idea. Getting caught was idiotic of Manning. Obama couldn't save Manning from the Military law because Obama takes law enforcement seriously, unlike Trump.

Obama had to enforce the law about stealing secrets, but also Obama obviously approved of the whistle-blowing because he commuted Chelsea Manning's sentence. He did not have to do that.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, January 7, 2021 2:43 AM

Quote:
... While this [TRUMP] administration has acted in unprecedented ways, ignoring the norms set before them, the accusations of treason are merely a Trumpian escalation of President Barack Obama’s war on whistleblowers.

While there are protected avenues for sharing concerns about government wrongdoing and abuse, seeking any outside channel for sharing secret information leaves a whistleblower vulnerable to being charged under the Espionage Act of 1917, which was written to prosecute spies against the United States during wartime. President Obama, a constitutional-law scholar, weaponized the Espionage Act against whistleblowers like no administration before.

“Under the Obama administration was a complete misuse of the Espionage Act to target whistleblowers and to create an example of these individuals who came forward to blow the whistle on really serious intelligence community abuses of power,” says Liz Hempowicz, director of public policy at the Project on Government Oversight. Only 13 people have been charged under the Espionage Act, but eight of these cases occurred during President Barack Obama’s two terms.

SECOND is trying to cover for Obama, whose prosecution (persecution) of whistleblowers extended to many more than just Chelsea Manning.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 7, 2021 3:32 AM

Yup.

Trump should pardon Snowden too.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

SECOND

Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

SECOND is trying to cover for Obama, whose prosecution (persecution) of whistleblowers extended to many more than just Chelsea Manning.

I think Signym's brain is either overheating or Signym is an extreme partisan. Or both.

I am sorry to tell you, Signym, but I don’t see Obama’s fingerprints on these cases, except for Manning, who Obama showed mercy toward after Manning got crushed by the machinery of Military Law. Manning wasn't charged by Obama with anything. It was Military Justice, all the way, which is nothing like Justice Department Justice.

There is a list of people charged under the Espionage Act of 1917 while Obama was President:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917#21st_century

First on the list:
Jeffrey Alexander Sterling is an American lawyer and former CIA employee who was arrested, charged, and convicted of violating the Espionage Act for revealing details about Operation Merlin (covert operation to supply Iran with flawed nuclear warhead blueprints) to journalist James Risen. In May 2015, Sterling was sentenced to 3½ years in prison, but was released early, in January 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Alexander_Sterling

Second on the list:
Thomas Andrews Drake. On June 9, 2011, all 10 original charges against him were dropped. He eventually pleaded to one misdemeanor count for exceeding authorized use of a computer. The judge noted that Drake had been financially devastated, spending $82,000 on his defense, losing his $154,600 job at the NSA and his pension, and being fired from his university teaching position. He sentenced Drake to one year of probation and 240 hours of community service.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake

Third on the list:
Shamai K. Leibowitz – In May 2010, Shamai K. Leibowitz, a translator for the FBI, admitted sharing information with a blogger and pleaded guilty to one count of disclosure of classified information. As part of a plea bargain, he was sentenced to 20 months in prison.

He is interesting. Mr. Leibowitz, an Israeli-American lawyer, told the court he now understood that he should have gone to the Inspector General of the Justice Department instead. “I used bad judgment and made a terrible decision. I would like to emphasize,” he told the judge in a written statement, “that I was not motivated by greed, fame, personal ambition, or foreign interests. I made a mistake but only because I believed it was in the best interests of the American people. I truly regret that my misguided patriotism led me to make a mistake that is wholly uncharacteristic of me.”
https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2010/05/jail_leak/

Fourth on the list:
In August 2010, Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a contractor for the State Department and a specialist in nuclear proliferation, was indicted under 18 U.S.C. § 793(d) for alleged disclosure in June 2009 of national defense information to reporter James Rosen of Fox News Channel, related to North Korea's plans to test a nuclear weapon.

In June 2009, Kim allegedly had a conversation with Rosen about North Korea planning a nuclear bomb test. The alleged false statements to the FBI occurred in September 2009, regarding whether or not Kim had any contact with Rosen (whom he allegedly met around March 2009). Kim was sentenced to a 13-month prison term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jin-Woo_Kim

Fifth on the list:
Chelsea Manning, who was released by Obama.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

Sixth and last on the list of people charged while Obama was President:
Edward Joseph Snowden. That’s an interesting story because he now lives in Russia, for some reason. He’d be a hero, except he never showed up in Federal Court, so it is kind of hard for him to win his case and receive the Medal of Freedom from Obama for service to his country. Obama probably would have awarded him, but Snowden didn’t stick around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#Flight_from_the_United_St
ates

The Joss Whedon scr

SIGNYM

Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:18 AM

All were prosecuted by Obama's DOJ.

It's funny... except it's not ... that you hold Trump responsible for every little bitty thing that happened under his Presidency, AND for a lot of things that DIDN'T happen (like collusion with Russia) but you give Obama a pass on everything.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

SECOND

Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
All were prosecuted by Obama's DOJ.

It's funny... except it's not ... that you hold Trump responsible for every little bitty thing that happened under his Presidency, AND for a lot of things that DIDN'T happen (like collusion with Russia) but you give Obama a pass on everything.

Funny that you and Trump keep using the words Russian "collusion" over and over while the Mueller investigation was about Russian interference with an election and Trump obstructing Mueller. It is as if you and Trump will never be able to understand what any of this was about, which is what makes you and Trump a big joke and laugh out loud funny. I point you to the Mueller Report and Mueller's comments about his report, but you still can't understand a damn thing, can you, Signym? I'm not explaining it to you because you and Trump have a shared and obvious learning disorder.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-robert-muellers-letter-bill-barr

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:32 AM

Fuck you Second.

Professional goal post shifter.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
All were prosecuted by Obama's DOJ.

It's funny... except it's not ... that you hold Trump responsible for every little bitty thing that happened under his Presidency, AND for a lot of things that DIDN'T happen (like collusion with Russia) but you give Obama a pass on everything.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Yeah, SECOND can't respond on point, so once again ... he trolls.

SECOND

Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
All were prosecuted by Obama's DOJ.

It's funny... except it's not ... that you hold Trump responsible for every little bitty thing that happened under his Presidency, AND for a lot of things that DIDN'T happen (like collusion with Russia) but you give Obama a pass on everything.
Yeah, SECOND can't respond on point, so once again ... he trolls.

I did respond, but I didn't give you the response you wanted. I'll give you another response: It is obvious that 1kiki, Signym, 6ix, and Trump are a deranged clan. That is why your life does not run smoothly. The world is not a easy place for people with mental problems sane people don't have. Assange is just as crazy and his life has been full of problems and drama and ridiculousness, but very few achievements.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:05 AM

Says the guy who spent the last four years bitching and whining about everything.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

1KIKI

Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:19 AM

While giving Obama*, Hillary* the DNC* and democratic* legislators present and past a pass on everything. And I guarantee giving them all* a pass in the future as well!

But I'll be ready to point and laugh!

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them -I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:30 AM

Yup. The next four years should be truly entertaining.

At least the next two will be, anyhow.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

SECOND

Thursday, January 7, 2021 7:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

While giving Obama*, Hillary* the DNC* and democratic* legislators present and past a pass on everything. And I guarantee giving them all* a pass in the future as well!

But I'll be ready to point and laugh!

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Says the guy who spent the last four years bitching and whining about everything.

I have always thought Trump was a lunatic, going back to when he was bankrupting his casinos in Atlantic City. I have always thought 1kiki, 6ix, Signym were crazy. Not surprising how you act around the subject of Trump. The Trump lovers I know in Texas are crazy. Some of them buy every book Rush Limbaugh writes. Some of them describe themselves as highly moral and god-fearing when I know them for numerous moral failings of weak flesh. Some have bizarre behavior under job/money/marital/family pressure. They crack so easily. Again, not surprising that such people would be attracted to Trump or defend Trump or share many of the same opinions Trump has. You are broke down people, Trump people.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Thursday, January 7, 2021 8:39 AM

Sheesh. I post about the DNC*, Biden*, and other individual democrats* and democrats* as a group, past, preset and future ... with no mention at all of any of republican or the republican party, ... and all YOU can think about is ... but TRUMP!!

You're one seriously addicted dude. Speaking for moral failings ...

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

THG

Thursday, January 7, 2021 8:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

While giving Obama*, Hillary* the DNC* and democratic* legislators present and past a pass on everything. And I guarantee giving them all* a pass in the future as well!

But I'll be ready to point and laugh!

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them -I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes.

I saw a post of kikis' criticizing someone for mentioning Trump. Time to move on to Biden according to her. Trump is still president. He is still in the white house. Then I scrolled up and saw this post. Hillary and Obama again. The past four years has been a constant reminder of all their complaints about them. Fake made up shit, four years of it.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

While giving Obama*, Hillary* the DNC* and democratic* legislators present and past a pass on everything. And I guarantee giving them all* a pass in the future as well!

But I'll be ready to point and laugh!

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them -I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes.

I saw a post of kikis' criticizing someone for mentioning Trump. Time to move on to Biden according to her. Trump is still president. He is still in the white house. Then I scrolled up and saw this post. Hillary and Obama again. The past four years has been a constant reminder of all their complaints about them. Fake made up shit, four years of it.

T

Would you like me to start compiling a collection of your greatest hits, Ted?

If the answer is no, I'd shut the fuck up if I were you.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, December 10, 2021 10:29 PM

US Wins Appeal In UK Courts To Extradite Julian Assange!

https://www.brighteon.com/a3da50fe-18ce-4999-8a14-d3eab1b7f287

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 11, 2021 4:20 AM

Fuck Democrats. He used to be their hero.

He still is a hero, despite what they have to say now.

Zero prison time for Assange.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:30 PM

Former Icelandic minister claims US sent 'planeload of FBI agents to frame Julian Assange' during mission to the country in 2011

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4021166/Former-Icelandic-mini
ster-claims-FBI-tried-frame-Julian-Assange.html

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Former Icelandic minister claims US sent 'planeload of FBI agents to frame Julian Assange' during mission to the country in 2011

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4021166/Former-Icelandic-mini
ster-claims-FBI-tried-frame-Julian-Assange.html

Of course they did.

Assange is a hero. There was a time when Democrats would have agreed with that statement.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, March 6, 2024 7:43 PM

Stella Assange | Tucker Carlson

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XIHXtrFV0q7W/

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, May 29, 2024 2:47 PM

President Trump says he will give “very serious consideration” to pardoning Assange

of course he says so, its election time

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1795276274384138657

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:40 PM

WikiLeaks founder Assange en-route to final US court hearing ahead of release

https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20240625-wikileaks-founder-assange
-en-route-to-final-us-court-hearing-ahead-of-release

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 27, 2024 7:48 PM

No, barrister Geoffrey Robertson didn’t buy Julian Assange a house

https://www.smh.com.au/cbd/no-barrister-geoffrey-robertson-didn-t-buy-
julian-assange-a-house-20240723-p5jvyu.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, October 24, 2025 5:01 PM

the clownshow of Trump man continues

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