Act of War Against Iran
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Top Iranian General Qassim Suleimani Is Killed on Trump’s Orders, Officials Say
The commander of Iran’s powerful Revolutionary Guards Corps was killed early Friday in a drone strike at Baghdad International Airport that was authorized by President Trump, American officials said.
The commander, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, and several officials from Iraqi militias backed by Tehran were killed when an American MQ-9 Reaper drone fired missiles into a convoy that was leaving the airport.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-iranian-general-qassim-suleim
ani-is-killed-on-trumps-orders-officials-say/ar-BBYz0Zs?ocid=spartanntp
What's Iran response going to be?
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'Depart Iraq Immediately.' U.S. Embassy Advises Americans to Leave After Qasem Soleimani Assassination
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/depart-iraq-immediately-us-embass
y-advises-americans-to-leave-after-qasem-soleimani-assassination/ar-BBYzYb2?ocid=spartanntp
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Democrats call US killing of Iranian general 'reckless'
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that President Donald Trump has “tossed a stick of dynamite into a tinderbox" with the targeted killing of Iran's top general in an airstrike at Baghdad’s international airport.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-call-us-killing-of-i
ranian-general-reckless/ar-BBYz6WA?ocid=spartanntp
Opps. Hey sig, perhaps we should revisit your Hillary war mongering thread? You remember, the thread you started promoting Trump in the run up to the election.
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Trump looking at the calendar and feeling the need to check another box before it’s too late:
“Things to see and do while most powerful man on planet: Start a War”
Not to mention the major distraction quality. When Pompeo shows up on cnn first thing in the morning for an interview you know this has been in the works and ready to go on Trump’s signal. Interesting to see how the markets react - hold onto your butts if you’re invested.
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Trump looking at the calendar and feeling the need to check another box before it’s too late:
“Things to see and do while most powerful man on planet: Start a War”
Not to mention the major distraction quality. When Pompeo shows up on cnn first thing in the morning for an interview you know this has been in the works and ready to go on Trump’s signal. Interesting to see how the markets react - hold onto your butts if you’re invested.
There are many different times Trump appears on video warning of Obama starting a war with Iran as a political move to win an election. Wait for it. Those clips are coming to this thread soon.
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Quote:Years before his all-caps Twitter threat, Trump used to accuse Obama of looking to start a war with Iran
Originally posted by THG:
There are many different times Trump appears on video warning of Obama starting a war with Iran as a political move to win an election. Wait for it. Those clips are coming to this thread soon.
Published Mon, Jul 23 2018
www.cnbc.com/2018/07/23/trump-accused-obama-of-wanting-war-with-iran.h
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Trump predicted in a tweet that then-President Obama would start a war with Iran “in order to get elected” to a second term. It wasn’t just an off-hand remark; Trump repeated the sentiment that Obama would attack Iran as a political calculation in subsequent tweets over the next four years.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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US to send 3,000 more troops to Middle East following Soleimani death: officials
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-send-3000-more-troops-to-mi
ddle-east-following-soleimani-death-officials/ar-BBYAIVy?ocid=spartandhp
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Iran vows revenge after U.S. drone strike kills elite force commander
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-vows-revenge-after-us-drone-
strike-kills-elite-force-commander/ar-BBYzG3x?ocid=spartandhp
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Soleimani was plotting coup in Iraq - U.S. Senator Rubio
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/soleimani-was-plotting-coup-in
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Question? Am I the only one here that believes Iran will now have an overwhelming sense of urgency when it comes to developing a Nuclear weapon?
Way to go Donnie...
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lol. I'm sure they were just procrastinating before.
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Iran's response to US will be military -- Khamenei's advisor
The military adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader said Sunday that his country's response to the killing by the United States of one its most influential commanders will certainly be a military response "against military sites."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/irans-response-to-us-will-be-mili
tary-khameneis-advisor/ar-BBYD9TJ?ocid=spartandhp
We are now in the position of waiting. Where, when and how many attacks are coming? How will we respond? How bad will this get? What will our allies do?
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You sound like you're really scared, buddy.
You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.
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You sound like you're really scared, buddy.
You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.
Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expuls
ion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp
Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you?
It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up.
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound like you're really scared, buddy.
You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.
Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expuls
ion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp
Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you?
It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up.
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It sucks anytime people are going to LOSE their lives over anything that powerful people do.
There is zero different going on here than what we've been doing in the middle east since the 50's.
There's not going to be any war. Or at least, any major conflict. It will just be more of the same bullshit pseudo-wars we've been living with since GWB was president. Iran isn't stupid... unless you believe that all of the people in power there are true believers in the diseased Muslim ideology and that they're all suicidal.
Seriously man... For your own good, I suggest you find a hobby or two to take your mind off of things like this that are completely out of your control. If the worst case happens and this is the end of the world than at least you weren't wigged out in your last days and you can go doing something that you enjoy.
In the mean time, wag the dog or not, this certainly seems to have swept the sham impeachment under the rug, hasn't it?
Pelosi is breathing a sigh of relief right now.
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Quote:All you are really telling us is that an Iranian cannot kill Trump on his way to Air Force One, while Trump can kill at his own pleasure an Iranian on his way to the airport in Iraq. Even Trump wouldn't be able to kill at will if the Pentagon's budget was reduced to be inline with the rest of the world's spending.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It sucks anytime people are going to LOSE their lives over anything that powerful people do.
There is zero different going on here than what we've been doing in the middle east since the 50's.
There's not going to be any war. Or at least, any major conflict. It will just be more of the same bullshit pseudo-wars we've been living with since GWB was president. Iran isn't stupid... unless you believe that all of the people in power there are true believers in the diseased Muslim ideology and that they're all suicidal.
Seriously man... For your own good, I suggest you find a hobby or two to take your mind off of things like this that are completely out of your control. If the worst case happens and this is the end of the world than at least you weren't wigged out in your last days and you can go doing something that you enjoy.
In the mean time, wag the dog or not, this certainly seems to have swept the sham impeachment under the rug, hasn't it?
Pelosi is breathing a sigh of relief right now.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"List of countries by military expenditures"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditur
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The Pentagon was shocked at what Trump does with the military budget:
"Pentagon Officials Reportedly “Stunned” by Trump’s Decision to Kill Soleimani"
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/pentagon-officials-reporte
dly-stunned-trump-kill-soleimani.html
Nobody at the Pentagon said Trump is stupid/unwise, but they know he is.
Even Trump vaguely understands that America spends far too much on the military, although he's a dummy:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted
The United States just spent Two Trillion Dollars on Military Equipment. We are the biggest and by far the BEST in the World! If Iran attacks an American Base, or any American, we will be sending some of that brand new beautiful equipment their way...and without hesitation!
9:11 PM - 4 Jan 2020
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213689342272659456
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Umm, this was no Benghazi.
Instead of ignoring our people in harm's way for 13 hours and packing for a fundraising dinner in Vegas, as Obama did, Trump sent 100 Marines to support and guard the embassy, driving the " protestors ", aka TERRORISTS away. No U.S. causalities. Zero.
And our response?
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Poll: 43 percent approve of Trump strike on Soleimani
About 4 in 10 Americans approve of President Trump's decision to order the airstrike that killed a top Iranian military commander.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-43-percent-approve-of-tru
mp-strike-on-soleimani/ar-BBYFSPh?ocid=spartanntp
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I'm not one of the 4 in 10. I don't approve of it.
I just don't care. It's exactly the same thing we've been doing for 20 years now, and nobody has given two shits about it for two decades.
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Here's a conspiracy theory for all you conspiracists. Trump assassinates an Iranian General. Iran responds by firing rockets at American military bases in Iraq.
While awaiting Trumps response to that a Ukrainian airliner takes off within Iran. A nervous Iranian military fires at the plane shooting it down killing 179 people thinking it's a missile their radar is tracking.
If this is the case, I blame Trump and his wag the dog bullshit.
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Quote:It is NOT the same. On Thursday, Trump himself claimed that the Iranians were “looking to blow up our embassy” in Baghdad, but cited no facts to back up the assertion.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not one of the 4 in 10. I don't approve of it.
I just don't care. It's exactly the same thing we've been doing for 20 years now, and nobody has given two shits about it for two decades.
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Following classified briefings for members of Congress on Wednesday, numerous lawmakers from both parties said that the administration did NOT present direct evidence of an imminent threat, even when they repeatedly asked officials to do so.
“If the members of our armed services have the courage to go and fight and die in these wars, as Congress we ought to have the courage to vote for them or against them,” said Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., “I support the president, killing Suleimani was the right decision. But engaging in another forever war with the Middle East would be the wrong decision, and that’s why I’m voting for this resolution.”
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/09/house-votes-to-stop-trump-from-att
acking-iran/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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What’s the strategy?
If Trump can’t articulate his Iran policy, then Congress needs to assert its authority.
In a week that began with a deadly U.S. drone strike on an Iranian military leader and ended with President Donald Trump assuring the nation that a retaliatory Iranian missile launch against U.S. troops was actually a sign of peaceful resolution, Americans can be forgiven for feeling whiplashed.
How did we so quickly go from the standard “tensions in the Middle East” status quo to the brink of war and back to “all is well”? Is it? And what happens now?
The good news is that Iran chose to hurl 22 missiles at two Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops where no people were killed and no real property damage was done and that Trump chose to accept that as a fitting end to the current hostilities.
“Iran appears to be standing down, which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world,” Trump said in a White House address to the nation Wednesday.
Peace in our time.
By Thursday, however, a leader of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was threatening “harsher revenge soon” against the United States as even some of the president’s Republican allies in the Senate were upset by the lack of information and what Sen. Mike Lee described as instructions to members of Congress not to question military decisions.
“What I found so distressing about that briefing was that one of the messages we received from the briefers was, ‘Do not debate. Do not discuss the issue of the appropriateness of further military intervention against Iran. And then if you do, you’ll be emboldening Iran.’ ”
Lee called an hourlong closed-door meeting Wednesday with administration officials, “the worst briefing I’ve seen, at least on a military issue.”
The briefing was held as the House prepared to vote Thursday on a resolution that would force Trump to end hostilities against Iran unless he gets specific authorization from Congress.
Lee said he is now open to supporting such a resolution based on the lack of information from White House and military officials.
“They were asked repeatedly, what, if anything, would trigger the need for the administration to come back to Congress for a declaration of war or an authorization for the use of military force,” Lee said. “At one point, I believe one of the briefers said something like, ‘I’m sure we can think of something.’ But they struggled to identify anything.”
The Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war, but presidents, invoking their role as commander in chief, have historically launched and escalated wars, including in Korea and Vietnam, without the approval of Congress. Presidents from both parties have skirted the wishes of Congress, which has at times willingly ceded its authority to the executive branch to avoid tough votes and decisions. A resolution would be largely symbolic, but debate could bring some much-needed transparency and clarity to the issue.
Lee’s complaints track broader concerns about Trump’s order last week to kill Tehran’s top military commander, Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, in an overnight U.S. drone strike near Baghdad’s international airport.
While everyone agrees that Soleimani was responsible for hundreds of American and Iraqi deaths and destabilizing attacks against the United States and its interests in the Middle East, the administration has offered confusing and contradicting reasons for the urgency of the strike.
The administration also has been fuzzy on how it planned to deal with the aftermath and the possibility that U.S. forces would again be pulled into a war in the region.
In his statement Wednesday, the president said he would ask that “NATO become much more involved in the Middle East process” even though he has belittled the organization as ineffective and alienated many of the leaders in those nations who continue to support the 2015 agreement to lift sanctions on Iran in exchange for Iran accepting restrictions on its nuclear program.
Trump has instead pushed a “maximum pr
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No wonder we have whiplash.
Hyperbole of the day!
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Evidence That Plane Was Shot Down in Iran May Upset U.S.-Canada Relations
If it is determined that it was an Iranian missile, Mr. Trudeau will have to grapple with the question of whether the United States, Canada’s most important ally, played a role in provoking the events that ultimately resulted in the loss of Canadians’ lives.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/evidence-that-plane-was-shot-down
-in-iran-may-upset-us-canada-relations/ar-BBYObjG?ocid=spartandhp
They say it may have been a Russian made missile. If it was, was it a Russian that fired it?
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Quote:Here are the explanations so far for why we had to kill Qassim Soleimani:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
No wonder we have whiplash.
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Story #1: Iran planned an “imminent strike.”
Story #2: But we don’t know when or where.
Story #3: Wait, they were planning to bomb our embassy in Baghdad. We had to stop them.
Story #4: Well, really, it was revenge for the demonstration against our embassy in Baghdad.
Story #5: Hold on. They were planning to bomb four American embassies. **
By no means do I think this covers all the explanations we’ve gotten. These are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. The last two are from Trump himself.
It’s insane. And so far, the Trumpies have refused to provide even the slightest bit of evidence to back this up, even to the Gang of Eight in Congress.
** A senior administration official and a senior defense official said they were only aware of vague intelligence about a plot against the embassy in Baghdad. Neither said there were threats against multiple embassies. Trump lied.
www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-now-claims-four-embassi
es-were-under-threat-from-iran-raising-fresh-questions-about-intelligence-reports/2020/01/10/02f8d154-33e7-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Here are the explanations so far for why we had to kill Qassim Soleimani:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
No wonder we have whiplash.
Hyperbole of the day!
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Story #1: Iran planned an “imminent strike.”
Story #2: But we don’t know when or where.
Story #3: Wait, they were planning to bomb our embassy in Baghdad. We had to stop them.
Story #4: Well, really, it was revenge for the demonstration against our embassy in Baghdad.
Story #5: Hold on. They were planning to bomb four American embassies. **
By no means do I think this covers all the explanations we’ve gotten. These are just the ones I remember off the top of my head. The last two are from Trump himself.
It’s insane. And so far, the Trumpies have refused to provide even the slightest bit of evidence to back this up, even to the Gang of Eight in Congress.
** A senior administration official and a senior defense official said they were only aware of vague intelligence about a plot against the embassy in Baghdad. Neither said there were threats against multiple embassies. Trump lied.
www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-now-claims-four-embassi
es-were-under-threat-from-iran-raising-fresh-questions-about-intelligence-reports/2020/01/10/02f8d154-33e7-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I just file it under Don't Give a Shit. Problem solved.
Have fun with your whiplash though.
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Quote:You are not even among the first thousand Trump voters I know and they have, just like you, filed this and everything else about their entire lives under "Don't Give a Shit." That doesn't work nearly as well as they think it should, partly because Trump "Doesn't Give a Shit", either. He doesn't have to because they are gonna vote for him and the GOP no matter what happens between now and forever.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just file it under Don't Give a Shit. Problem solved.
Have fun with your whiplash though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are not even among the first thousand Trump voters I know and they have, just like you, filed this and everything else about their entire lives under "Don't Give a Shit." That doesn't work nearly as well as they think it should, partly because Trump "Doesn't Give a Shit", either. He doesn't have to because they are gonna vote for him and the GOP no matter what happens between now and forever.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I just file it under Don't Give a Shit. Problem solved.
Have fun with your whiplash though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
And yet, you're the one stroking out everyday.
Your life sounds awesome buddy.
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Assassination by drone strike? Obama did that for YEARS. It started as a secret CIA program and expanded to involve JSOC Obama had a kill list and everything. Don't you remember when he said he was rather good at it, and his "joke"
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Jonas Brothers are here, they’re out there somewhere ... Sasha and Malia are huge fans, but boys, don’t get any ideas. Two words for you: predator drones. You’ll never see it coming."
Seriously?
How can anyone who supported Obama now pretend to be anti-war?
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The War Pigs Are Finally Revealing Themselves - And This Is Just The Beginning...
Wednesday, 08 January 2020 17:00 Brandon Smith
In 2016 during the election campaign of Donald Trump one of the primary factors of his popularity among conservatives was that he was one of the first candidates since Ron Paul to argue for bringing US troops home and ending American involvement in the various elitist fabricated wars in the Middle East. From Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Syria and Yemen and beyond, the Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs at the behest of their globalist masters had been waging war oversees unabated for over 15 years. The time was ripe for a change and people felt certain that if Hillary Clinton entered the White House, another 4-8 years of war were guaranteed.
There was nothing to be gained from these wars. They were only dragging the US down socially and economically, and even the idea of “getting the oil” had turned into a farce as the majority of Iraqi oil has been going to China, not the US. General estimates on the costs of the wars stand at $5 trillion US tax dollars and over 4500 American dead along with around 40,000 wounded. The only people that were benefiting from the situation were globalists and banking elites, who had been clamoring to destabilize the Middle East since the day they launched their “Project For A New American Century” (PNAC). Truly, all wars are banker wars.
The Obama Administration's attempts to lure Americans into supporting open war with the Assad regime in Syria had failed. Consistent attempts by George W. Bush and Obama to increase tensions with Iran had fizzled. Americans were showing signs of fatigue, FINALLY fed up with the lies being constructed to trick them into being complicit in the banker wars. Trump was a breath of fresh air...but of course, like all other puppets of the globalists, his promises were empty.
In my article 'Clinton vs. Trump And The Co-Option Of The Liberty Movement', published before the 2016 election, I warned that Trump's rhetoric might be a grand show, and that it could be scripted by the establishment to bring conservatives back into the Republican/Neo-Con fold. At the time, leftist media outlet Bloomberg openly reveled in the idea that Trump might absorb and destroy the “Tea Party” and liberty movement and turn them into something far more manageable. The question was whether or not the liberty movement would buy into Trump completely, or remain skeptical.
Initially, I do not think the movement held onto its objectivity at all. Far too many people bought into Trump blindly and immediately based on misguided hopes and a desire to “win” against the leftists. The insane cultism of the political left didn't help matters much, either.
When Trump started saturating his cabinet with banking elites and globalists from the CFR the moment he entered office, I knew without any doubt that he was a fraud. Close associations with establishment swamp creatures was something he had consistently criticized Clinton and other politicians for during the campaign, but Trump was no better or different than Clinton; he was just an errand boy for the elites. The singular difference was that his rhetoric was designed to appeal directly to liberty minded conservatives.
This meant that it was only a matter of time before Trump broke most of his campaign promises, including his assertions that he would bring US troops home. Eventually, the mask had to come off if Trump was going to continue carrying out the agenda of his masters.
Today, the mask has indeed come off. For the past three years Trump has made announcements of an imminent pull back of troops in the Middle East, including the recent claim that troops would be leaving Syria. All of the announcements were followed by an INCREASE in US troop presence in the region. Consistent attempts have been made to foment renewed strife with Iran. The build-up to war has been obvious, but some people on the Trump train still didn't get it.
The most common argument I heard when pointing out
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Assassination by drone strike? Obama did that for YEARS. It started as a secret CIA program and expanded to involve JSOC Obama had a kill list and everything. Don't you remember when he said he was rather good at it, and his "joke"Quote:
Jonas Brothers are here, they’re out there somewhere ... Sasha and Malia are huge fans, but boys, don’t get any ideas. Two words for you: predator drones. You’ll never see it coming."
Seriously?
How can anyone who supported Obama now pretend to be anti-war?
Because their memory only goes back 2 weeks.
Wikipedia says he won the Nobel Peace Prize, don'tcha know?
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Trump now claims four embassies were under threat from Iran, raising fresh questions about intelligence reports
President Trump said on Friday that a senior Iranian general killed by a U.S. drone strike had been planning attacks on four U.S. embassies, a claim made to justify the decision but that was at odds with intelligence assessments from senior officials in Trump’s administration.
Trump and his top advisers have been under intensifying pressure from lawmakers in both parties to share more details about the intelligence they say showed Qasem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force, was planning imminent attacks against U.S. personnel in the Middle East. On Trump’s orders, Soleimani was killed last week in a drone strike, prompting Iran to fire a volley of ballistic missiles this week at bases in Iraq housing U.S. soldiers.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-now-claims-four-embassies-w
ere-under-threat-from-iran-raising-fresh-questions-about-intelligence-reports/ar-BBYQmDf?ocid=spartandhp
Not good...
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Sig is trying to equate Obama targeting al-Qaeda and ISIS who live in the back woods or mountain caves with drones, as comparable to killing someone who has been described as the number two person in the Iranian government.
What a disingenuous whack job.
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Sig is trying to equate Obama targeting al-Qaeda and ISIS who live in the back woods or mountain caves with drones, as comparable to killing someone who has been described as the number two person in the Iranian government.
What a disingenuous whack.
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It wasn't just the back woods or mountains. There were plenty of cities that saw drone strikes too, and plenty of civilians who were killed in Obama's drone strikes.
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Ukraine demands punishment, compensation for airliner downed by Iran
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-demands-punishment-compen
sation-for-airliner-downed-by-iran/ar-BBYQIQW?ocid=spartandhp
I'm waiting for more from Canada. Trust me, it won't be good for Trump. Brenda, anything to say?
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Trump administration refuses to heed Iraq’s call for troop withdrawal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-demands-punishment-compen
sation-for-airliner-downed-by-iran/ar-BBYQIQW?ocid=spartandhp
Jack and sig don't understand the consequences of what Trump did. Or they won't own up to it.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Sig is trying to equate Obama targeting al-Qaeda and ISIS who live in the back woods or mountain caves with drones, as comparable to killing someone who has been described as the number two person in the Iranian government.
What a disingenuous whack.
It wasn't just the back woods or mountains. There were plenty of cities that saw drone strikes too, and plenty of civilians who were killed in Obama's drone strikes.
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Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT): "It is not acceptable for officials within the executive branch of government…to come in and tell us that we can't debate and discuss the appropriateness of military intervention against Iran. It's un-American. It's unconstitutional and it's wrong."
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Trump administration refuses to heed Iraq’s call for troop withdrawal
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-demands-punishment-compen
sation-for-airliner-downed-by-iran/ar-BBYQIQW?ocid=spartandhp
Jack and sig don't understand the consequences of what Trump did. Or they won't own up to it.
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Soleimani’s Assassination Brings Vows of Vengeance—in Africa
ABUJA, Nigeria—Members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN), a group led by converts to Shia Islam originally inspired by the Iranian Revolution 40 years ago, have vowed to fight to punish Americans, “the tyrants of this century,” for the assassination of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani last week.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/soleimanis-assassination-brings-v
ows-of-vengeance—in-africa/ar-BBYQZOV?ocid=spartandhp
Hey jack sig. This shits just begun morons.
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Quote:Jeezus, you ARE a moron! What have I been posting ever since this happened? That the blowback is going to go on for over a year, and that the final result (altho not immediate) is that American troops will be forced out of Iraq.
THUGR: Hey jack sig. This shits just begun morons.
What THAT short enough for you to comprehend?
There's enough blame to go around for this, including the deep state and Senators who pushed Trump into this. But Trump was too ignorant to resist their fake intelligence, so for that I blame him.
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I don't care. Period.
I don't think I can be any more clear than that.
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I see sig is still blaming her notion of the deep state for bad shit that happens. Trump did this plain and simple.
Hey, has anybody noticed Trump is more and more slurring his words?
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Defense chief "didn't see" specific evidence of Iranian threat to embassies
Washington — Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said he "didn't see" specific evidence that top Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani was planning attacks on four U.S. embassies.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/defense-chief-didnt-see-specific-
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Trump, after the strike, told associates he was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate. This would not mean Trump ordered the strike entirely, or even primarily, in order to placate Senate Republicans. But it does constitute an admission that domestic political considerations influenced his decision. That would, of course, constitute a grave dereliction of duty. Trump is so cynical he wouldn’t even recognize that making foreign policy decisions influenced by impeachment is the kind of thing he shouldn’t say out loud. Of course, using his foreign policy authority for domestic political gain is the offense Trump is being impeached for. It would be characteristically Trumpian to compound the offense as part of his efforts to avoid accountability for it.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/report-trump-cited-impeachment-
pressure-to-kill-soleimani.html
It’s possible Trump didn’t mean what he said, or that the associates who heard his comments misread them. But the straightforward read of this is that Trump has confessed to a grave and even impeachable abuse of his power as commander-in-chief.
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Quote:No prosecutor would get a murder conviction using Carl Sagan's rules. Here is a case that took 5 years to come to trial and the only witness was one of the victims surviving being shot in the head. Sagan's rules require 2 victims to survive being shot IN THE HEAD:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-who-killed-6-members-ex-wife-s-family
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In the words of the prosecutor, Trump's "issue is not his mental illness, his issue is his personality," describing him as a "manipulative, selfish, narcissistic, blame-shifting monster."
Occam's razor, as mentioned by Carl Sagan, for Trump is that he will always be NOT GUILTY in the eyes of a Trump voter. Once again, Sagan's rules make a conviction impossible.
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How MANY baloney (bullshit) rules do your posts violate?
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Quote:1kiki, that Carl Sagan checklist you keep quoting is for deciding larger questions, such as do you have an immortal soul living on after your death? It is not for triviality, like accusing your political enemies of not being “logical” in the sense that Mr Spock from Star Trek is always going on about.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
How MANY baloney (bullshit) rules do your posts violate?
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
1kiki, you need to check out Carl Sagan’s Chapter 12, The Fine Art Of Baloney Detection, from The Demon-Haunted World
www.amazon.com/Demon-Haunted-World-Science-Candle-Dark/dp/0345409469
Here is a page:
My parents died years ago. I was very close to them. I still miss them terribly. I know I always will. I long to believe that their essence, their personalities, what I loved so much about them, are— really and truly—still in existence somewhere. I wouldn’t ask very much, just five or ten minutes a year, say, to tell them about their grandchildren, to catch them up on the latest news, to remind them that I love them. There’s a part of me —no matter how childish it sounds—that wonders how they are. “Is everything all right?” I want to ask. The last words I found myself saying to my father, at the moment of his death, were “Take care.”
Sometimes I dream that I’m talking to my parents, and suddenly— still immersed in the dreamwork—I’m seized by the overpowering realization that they didn’t really die, that it's all been some kind of horrible mistake. Why, here they are, alive and well, my father making wry jokes, my mother earnestly advising me to wear a muffler because the weather is chilly. When I wake up I go through an abbreviated process of mourning all over again. Plainly, there’s something within me that’s ready to believe in life after death. And it’s not the least bit interested in whether there’s any sober evidence for it.
So I don’t guffaw at the woman who visits her husband’s grave and chats him up every now and then, maybe on the anniversary of his death. It’s not hard to understand. And if I have difficulties with the ontological status of who she’s talking to, that’s all right. That’s not what this is about. This is about humans being human. More than a third of American adults believe that on some level they’ve made contact with the dead. The number seems to have jumped by 15 percent between 1977 and 1988. A quarter of Americans believe in reincarnation.
But that doesn’t mean I’d be willing to accept the pretensions of a “medium,” who claims to channel the spirits of the dear departed, when I’m aware the practice is rife with fraud. I know how much I want to believe that my parents have just abandoned the husks of their . . .
1kiki, you obviously don’t understand the context for using Carl Sagan’s tools for thinking.
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I'm a big Sagan fan SECOND. I just don't get why comrade kiki posted then reposted what she posted regarding him here. Except to say she is a troll. She is desperate to deflect away from the topic. She is desperate not to look like the moron she is.
Looks like Iranian proxies fired more rockets at some American bases in Iraq again today.
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They should probably stop doing that.
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Quote:I agree that top Trump administration officials should stop declining to provide evidence that Soleimani would attack 4 US embassies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They should probably stop doing that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Days after President Donald Trump claimed the US killed Iran's top military general because he was targeting four American embassies, two of the President's top national security officials are declining to provide evidence of the intelligence used to justify the US drone strike. In interviews that aired Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and national security adviser Robert O'Brien both did not cite specific intelligence information when pressed by their interviewers.
www.cnn.com/2020/01/12/politics/robert-obrien-mark-esper-soleimani-emb
assy-attack-cnntv/index.html
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You sound like you're really scared, buddy.
You should probably take a Xanax and take a nap.
Iraq's Parliament calls for expulsion of U.S. troops
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraqs-parliament-calls-for-expuls
ion-of-us-troops/ar-BBYDryi?ocid=spartandhp
Scared no, but concerned for the Americans who are going to loose their lives over this; aren't you?
It's also becoming self-evident, Trump is assisting Putin gain traction in the Middle East by removing the United States from the area. Syria and now Iraq. What a fuck up.
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U.S. Warns Iraq It Risks Losing Access to Key Bank Account If Troops Told to Leave
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-warns-iraq-it-risks-losing-acc
ess-to-key-bank-account-if-troops-told-to-leave/ar-BBYRkYd?ocid=spartanntp
Looks like Trump is resorting to blackmail.
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Amash: Trump claim about US embassy threats 'seems to be totally made up'
Rep. Justin Amash (Mich.), an Independent who left the Republican Party last year, said Sunday that President Trump's claim that Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani was plotting attacks against four U.S. embassies "seems to be totally made up."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/amash-trump-claim-about-us-emb
assy-threats-seems-to-be-totally-made-up/ar-BBYSLLP?ocid=spartandhp
President Trump has made 15,413 false or misleading claims over 1,055 days
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has
-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/
Is anyone surprised?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I agree that top Trump administration officials should stop declining to provide evidence that Soleimani would attack 4 US embassies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They should probably stop doing that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Days after President Donald Trump claimed the US killed Iran's top military general because he was targeting four American embassies, two of the President's top national security officials are declining to provide evidence of the intelligence used to justify the US drone strike. In interviews that aired Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and national security adviser Robert O'Brien both did not cite specific intelligence information when pressed by their interviewers.
www.cnn.com/2020/01/12/politics/robert-obrien-mark-esper-soleimani-emb
assy-attack-cnntv/index.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance
-in-the-united-states.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance
-in-the-united-states.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You can pretend that Issac wasn't talking about you if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Whatever.
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Quote:It never fails: somebody as ignorant as hell tells me they know better than me. When their way fails for them, but my way works for me, the ignoramus never, never in a million years, looks back and realizes they don't know as much as they think they know. They think their failure was "bad luck" and my success was "good luck" and "cheating". When their failures and my successes are repeated, again and again, the ignoramus can't believe I was not cheating or lucky and goes right back to explaining everything by luck and cheating. By the way, if Trump is reelected (he has a 50% chance and nothing can change the coin flip randomness of elections) that is good for me, bad for you, despite you wanting him to stay another term.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance
-in-the-united-states.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You can pretend that Issac wasn't talking about you if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Whatever.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance
-in-the-united-states.html
Yep, dead on second. That describes Jack and would include most Trump supporters.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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U.S. Leaving Iraq Would Fulfill Soleimani’s Goal
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I can't help but notice that your posts are 100% baloney.
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Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit
Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the facts.
Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.
Arguments from authority carry little weight (in science there are no "authorities").
Spin more than one hypothesis - don't simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.
Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it's yours.
Quantify, wherever possible.
If there is a chain of argument every link in the chain must work.
Occam's razor - if there are two hypotheses that explain the data equally well choose the simpler.
Ask whether the hypothesis can, at least in principle, be falsified (shown to be false by some unambiguous test). In other words, it is testable? Can others duplicate the experiment and get the same result?
http://carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
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Quote:1kiki, Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit would tell you this cannot happen since it hasn't already happened at least twice:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I can't help but notice that your posts are 100% baloney.
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With a New Weapon in Donald Trump's Hands, The Iran Crisis Risks Going Nuclear
In exclusive reporting for Newsweek, four senior military officers say they doubt that the now six-month standoff with Iran could escalate to nuclear war.
They each note the deployment of the new Trident II missile warhead is explicitly intended to make the threat of such an attack by America more credible, and point it out as a little understood or noticed change that increases the very danger.
All four also add, very reluctantly, that there is a "Donald Trump" factor involved: that there is something about this president and the new weapons that makes contemplating crossing the nuclear threshold a unique danger.
More at www.newsweek.com/trump-iran-new-nuclear-weapon-increases-risk-crisis-n
uclear-1481752
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You're an idiot.
Do you think Bolt-on, Pompeous, the war-hawks in the House and Senate, et al who are running the show would be more moderate under Hillary? Yanno, Hillary-the-pervert who managed to destroy 5 countries as mere Sec of State?
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Quote:1kiki, I'm starting to believe you cannot think, little Russian troll:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You're an idiot.
Do you think Bolt-on, Pompeous, the war-hawks in the House and Senate, et al who are running the show would be more moderate under Hillary? Yanno, Hillary-the-pervert who managed to destroy 5 countries as mere Sec of State?
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
When Donald Trump became president, one of his first acts was signing a memorandum on "Rebuilding" U.S. armed forces. That memorandum directed his new Secretary of Defense, retired Gen. James Mattis, to initiate a new Nuclear Posture Review and to ensure that the nuclear deterrent was "ready and appropriately tailored to deter 21st-century threats."
Inside the nuclear establishment, "appropriately tailored" meant a new small nuclear weapon, one deliverable by a ballistic missile rather than from a bomber. The latter, as was gamed in the Global Thunder exercise, would take 11 hours to fly from home base in Missouri to either Iran or North Korea. A missile, on the other hand, could take 30 minutes, and a forward-deployed submarine-launched missile could take just 10-15 minutes.
North Korea's string of long-range missile tests in the first year of the Trump administration accentuated this "hole" in U.S. nuclear capabilities, a senior Air Force officer involved in the nuclear deliberations says. In the most pressing scenario involving the imminent use of weapons of mass destruction, existing missiles were rejected as a credible deterrent threat because their warhead size was thought to be too large to be "usable."
More at www.newsweek.com/trump-iran-new-nuclear-weapon-increases-risk-crisis-n
uclear-1481752
1kiki, Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit says nuclear war is "baloney" because it has not happened at least twice, in front of experimental scientists meticulously recording the data for posterity. Trump would have to use two missiles, one on Iran, one on Korea, before "baloney" becomes scientific proof that Trump is nuts, as measured by Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It never fails: somebody as ignorant as hell tells me they know better than me. When their way fails for them, but my way works for me, the ignoramus never, never in a million years, looks back and realizes they don't know as much as they think they know. They think their failure was "bad luck" and my success was "good luck" and "cheating". When their failures and my successes are repeated, again and again, the ignoramus can't believe I was not cheating or lucky and goes right back to explaining everything by luck and cheating. By the way, if Trump is reelected (he has a 50% chance and nothing can change the coin flip randomness of elections) that is good for me, bad for you, despite you wanting him to stay another term.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't give a shit.
The idiots that live in Iran that are poking the bear should probably stop poking the bear.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.openculture.com/2016/10/isaac-asimov-laments-the-cult-of-ignorance
-in-the-united-states.html
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You can pretend that Issac wasn't talking about you if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Whatever.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Dude. You claim that you're rich all the time, yet it is apparent how much you hate yourself and you hate your life.
Money isn't everything, and assuming you're not lying about it (which you clearly are), your little character you've made for yourself is living proof of that.
You are the envy of no one. Get a hobby.
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So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complicit Trump was on this murder of Soleimani. Scott Ritter (a former Marine intelligence officer and weapons inspector under Hans Blix, and who gave us the straight dope on how thorough the inspections were, and told us why there were NO WMD in Iraq) believes that this was at Trump's behest. According to him, the CIA had set up an Iran Mission Center, which means that Iran was raised to a level of National Security, giving the chief of that center dibs on satellite positioning, sigint etc. In looking this up, I found this
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In 2017, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) created a special unit — the Iran Mission Center — to focus attention on the U.S. plans against Iran. The initiative for this unit came from CIA director John Brennan, who left his post as the Trump administration came into office. Brennan believed that the CIA needed to focus attention on what the United States sees as problem areas — North Korea and Iran, for instance. This predated the Trump administration.
Brennan’s successor — Mike Pompeo, who was CIA director for just over a year (until he was appointed U.S. Secretary of State) — continued this policy. The CIA’s Iran-related activity had been conducted in the Iran Operations Division (Persia House). This was a section with Iran specialists who built up knowledge about political and economic developments inside Iran and in the Iranian diaspora.
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It bothered the hawks in Washington — as one official told me — that Persia House was filled with Iran specialists who had no special focus on regime change in Iran. Some of them, due to their long concentration on Iran, had developed sensitivity to the country. Trump’s people wanted a much more focused and belligerent group that would provide the kind of intelligence that tickled the fancy of his National Security Adviser John Bolton.
To head the Iran Mission Center, the CIA appointed Michael D’Andrea. D’Andrea was central to the post-9/11 interrogation program, and he ran the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center. Assassinations and torture were central to his approach.
It was D’Andrea who expanded the CIA’s drone strike program, in particular the signature strike. The signature strike is a particularly controversial instrument. The CIA was given the allowance to kill anyone who fit a certain profile — a man of a certain age, for instance, with a phone that had been used to call someone on a list. The dark arts of the CIA are precisely those of D’Andrea.
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/25/have-you-heard-of-the-cias-iran-missi
on-center_partner/
According to Scott Ritter, it is his BELIEF that Trump is running the Cheney playbook: pester the CIA for intel that would provide an excuse for what you're going to do anyway. But there are two things that counter that scenario
1) If Trump had authored the drone murder, would he have looked so stricken and ill-at-ease during his first press conference afterwards?
2) More importantly, would he have negotiated an off-ramp with the Iranians (thru the Swiss Embassy) requesting a "proprortionate" response and vowing no retaliation if they (the Iranians) limited their response?
Listening to the mechanics of that negotiation brings up a couple of questions that so far haven't been explicitly answered. What was the timing of the drone murder that killed Soleimani? Was it ordered when Trump as ambushed at Mar A Lago by a gaggle of neocons and deep staters? And when did the negotiations begin? When Trump returned to the WH?
Because SOMEone is Trump's friend. SOMEone provided Trump not only with a butt-puckering view of the consequences that had been potentially unleashed but also with a communications pathway and contacts to reversing the incident, as much as possible. That SOMEone ... or several someones ... aren't in the CIA, the State Department, the NSC, or the neocon Senate. They're not Pompeo, Esper, Haspel, Graham,
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Quote:I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. Trump now has that option and it makes the military worried that he may foolishly use it in a fit of pique to murder an Iranian big-shot:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complocot Trump was on this mirdere of Soleimani.
In February 2018, the Trump administration concluded its own Nuclear Posture Review. The Review formally called for a new low-yield warhead to be deployed on Navy Trident II submarine-launched missiles. Though articulated as a counter to Russia, government and non-government officials today agree that the new W76-2 warhead was all along also intended to fill the niche of providing a usable and prompt weapon to counter imminent North Korean or Iranian attacks, either with WMD or long-range missiles.
In September, according to officials who spoke on background because no announcement has been made, the first W76-2 warheads were delivered to the Navy. That W76-2 is thought to have an explosive yield of between 5-6 kilotons (5-6 thousand tons) – about one-third the size of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Kristensen estimates that some 50 of these small, "prompt" warheads will be deployed on Trident submarines, and that two of the 24 missiles aboard each of 12 submarines will be so armed.
If there was any conceivable American nuclear strike on Iran, sources agree, it would come from the new low-yield Trident submarine-based system.
On the philosophical question of using nuclear weapons, all six Air Force and STRATCOM sources I spoke to expressed concern that the very existence of nuclear options, with this president, complicated their otherwise clear conviction that there was no way nuclear weapons could be used against Iran.
But as the current nuclear war plans are written, the use of such a weapon could be justified, almost Hiroshima-like, as a shocking thunderclap to forestall a wider and theoretically more destructive all-out war.
"It is a capability that the United States did not have a year ago," the officer says, built precisely to be used, even to be used preemptively.
More at www.newsweek.com/trump-iran-new-nuclear-weapon-increases-risk-crisis-n
uclear-1481752
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Trump added to the controversy over his administration’s justification for the killing of an Iranian general, saying Monday that “it doesn’t really matter” whether it was in response to an imminent threat to the United States.
In a tweet, Trump criticized Democrats for trying to determine whether Iranian attacks the administration has said were planned by Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani against U.S. targets were imminent.
The Trump administration’s stated justification for ordering the U.S. drone strike that killed Soleimani in Baghdad on Jan. 3 was he planned imminent attacks on Americans and had to be stopped.
More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/01/13/trump-says-it-doesnt-reall
y-matter-if-iranian-general-posed-an-imminent-threat/
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Quote:Salon says one thing and Newsweek says another. Newsweek went long with the WMD in Iraq and Russiagate hoax and refuses to cover the story that OPCW top officials falsified its report on Douma chemical attack, which apparently never happened,
SIGNY:
So I've been listening to various interpretations of how complicit Trump was on this murder of Soleimani.
SECOND: I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran. Trump now has that option and it makes the military worried that he may foolishly use it in a fit of pique to murder an Iranian big-shot
Quote:https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/a-newsweek-reporter-r
A Newsweek Reporter Resigns, a Counter-Narrative Won’t Die
Is the media suppressing evidence that the 2018 chemical 'attack' in Syria didn't happen the way officials said it did?
esigns-a-counter-narrative-wont-die/
Why should I believe Newsweek?
I think my interpretation fits events and timeline a lot better.
BTW, sorry for the typos.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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Quote:The interpretation that fits best is that Trump wanted nukes to assassinate Kim Jong-un (remember "Fire and Fury"? There are youtube videos of Trump saying he planned on killing Kim) and the Pentagon obliged Trump by modifying existing warheads to make the W76-2. Trump might use the W76-2 on Iran's Ayatollah to "preempt" a war with Iran. That won't be a "preemption". It will be a war that starts by assassinating the Iranian Supreme Leader, completely bypassing Congress because Trump is "worried" or "concerned" that Democrats will not vote for war, maybe the Democrats even warn the Ayatollah, which would mean Trump accuses the Democrats, all of them, of "treason" and helping the enemy.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why should I believe Newsweek?
I think my interpretation fits events and timeline a lot better.
BTW, sorry for the typos.
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Influential Iraqi cleric Sadr calls for anti-U.S. demonstrations
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/influential-iraqi-cleric-sadr-cal
ls-for-anti-us-demonstrations/ar-BBYWUcE?ocid=spartandhp
Second, you know as well as anybody sig is a Russian troll. All she is doing here is trying to confuse.
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Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Once again, Signoramus is only acting interested - more agitation smoke.
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Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Once again, Signoramus is only acting interested - more agitation smoke.
Yes, agreed.
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Rockets target Taji military base north of Baghdad
BAGHDAD, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Iraqi camp Taji north of Baghdad was targeted by Katyusha rockets on Tuesday, with no casualties reported, an Iraqi military statement said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rockets-target-taji-military-base
-north-of-baghdad-statement/ar-BBYWR8s?ocid=spartandhp
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump has floated the idea of thwarting hurricanes (ayatollahs?) headed for the US by bombing them, including by dropping nuclear bombs on hurricanes (ayatollahs?) to disrupt their course, Axios reported, citing conversations with sources who heard Trump's comments and were briefed on a National Security Council memo that recorded the comments.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump has floated the idea of thwarting hurricanes (ayatollahs?) headed for the US by bombing them, including by dropping nuclear bombs on hurricanes (ayatollahs?) to disrupt their course, Axios reported, citing conversations with sources who heard Trump's comments and were briefed on a National Security Council memo that recorded the comments.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I've been reading ordinary Newsweek, and it says Trump wants the option to drop a nuke to shock and awe Iran.
He wanted to use nukes on hurricanes, why not this?
Do you have a video that he said that? I've never seen a video where he says that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You believed a lot of things without evidence. RUSSIA COLLUSION!! is one shining example.
I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.
So why should anybody believe your beliefs?
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I don't have a video of Trump taking a dump, but I'm sure he has and will again. Same is true about him talking about nuking an ayatollah.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know Axios reported on it. I'm asking you if you have video of Trump actually saying it.
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The W76-2 warhead did NOT happen because ... TRUMP! It appears there is a minimum 5 year R&D / testing / retooling, and scale-up delay built in. That would put the W76-2 back in the Obama presidency.
And indeed, the W76 was first conceptualized in 1973, and had been in production since 1979. While the W76 life-extension / revamp as the W76-1 was slated for 207.
Quote:What brings the timeline up to the Obama presidency where work continued apace.
https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html
The W76 Warhead
May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL
June 1978 First production units completed
The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017.
2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification.
9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.
Quote:
https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24
May 13, 2009
The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.
Quote:https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchalle
https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf
Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon
The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub--launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.
nge2.pdf
August 2014
... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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The W76-2 warhead did NOT happen because ... TRUMP! It appears there is a minimum 5 year R&D / testing / retooling, and scale-up delay built in. That would put the W76-2 back in the Obama presidency.
And indeed, the W76 was first conceptualized in 1973, and had been in production since 1979. While the W76 life-extension / revamp as the W76-1 was slated for 2007.
Quote:So the W76 had a history and ongoing investment that goes back 50 years.
https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html
The W76 Warhead
May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL
June 1978 First production units completed
The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017.
2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification.
9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.
The quote brings the timeline up to the Obama presidency where work continued apace.
Quote:
https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24
May 13, 2009
The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.
Quote:https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchalle
https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf
Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon
The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub--launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.
nge2.pdf
August 2014
... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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The W76-2 warhead did NOT happen because ... TRUMP! It appears there is a minimum 5 year R&D / testing / retooling, and scale-up delay built in. That would put the W76-2 back in the Obama presidency.
And indeed, the W76 was first conceptualized in 1973, and had been in production since 1979. While the W76 life-extension / revamp as the W76-1 was slated for 2007.
Quote:So the W76 had a history and ongoing investment that goes back 50 years.
https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/W76.html
The W76 Warhead
May 1973 Development engineering begun at LANL
June 1978 First production units completed
The first W76 warheads are approaching the end of their originally planned 30 year service life in 2008. This led to the initiation of the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension program in 2000 to refurbish the warheads for decades of further service. The first W76-1 is planned for delivery in September 2007 with completion in 2017.
2000 Planning begun for the W76-1/Mk-4A life extension modification.
9/2007 Delivery of first W76-1 planned.
The quote below brings the timeline up to the Obama presidency where work continued apace.
Quote:
https://www.armscontrol.org/taxonomy/term/44/0?page=24
May 13, 2009
The first two of these LEPs, Life Extension Programs, were done for the ICBM warhead, the W87 and for the Trident warhead, the W76. There are more coming.
Quote:
https://nukewatch.org/pressreleases/Obama-6-19-13.pdf
Obama pledged to reduce nuclear arsenal, then came this weapon
The U.S. is currently conducting a Life Extension Program for the sub--launched W76 warhead. This is extending its service life by three decades or more, and giving it a new fuze that is likely capable of more precise heights of burst. As far back as 1997 the head of the Navy’s Strategic Systems pointed out that the combination of increased accuracy and a changed fuze could transform the 100 kiloton W76 from a weapon of deterrence targeting soft targets such as cities into a hard target killer of missile silos and command centers.
Quote:One could try and blame it all on Trump, but given the 50 year history, it would look stupid.
https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/strategicchalle
nge2.pdf
August 2014
... the President can use a low-yield nuclear weapon instead of being constrained by the large yields of ICBMs or SLBMs.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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SECOND, THUGR ET AL ... please let go of your fixation with Trump. It has shredded what little judgment you have.
The M$M is 90% crap. don't pay attention to it. What Trump says and tweets is 90$ crap. Don't pay attention to that either: While under cover of a fusilade of wild tweets Trump was desperately trying to reel the situation in, keep it from spinning out of control.
Watch what happens, don't pay attention to what people "say". It's all narrative, and you're fools for getting sucked in, either way.
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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I love how sig and Jack keep suggesting MSN is all bullshit. MSN is a web site morons. A Microsoft network. It collects stories from news outlets globally and puts them together on a web page. This allows you to find current updated news. And no sig, they don't edit the stories in any way like zerohedge does.
Get with it morons. Just because a story quoted here shows an MSN address the actual stories are from other sources.
Here is an example: The link below says MSN but the story was written by the Washington Post. The fact that you don't know that shows you're, as always, ignorant about the topic you're posting about.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/winners-and-losers-from-
the-iowa-democratic-debate/ar-BBYY2Or?ocid=spartandhp
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, THUGR ET AL ... please let go of your fixation with Trump. It has shredded what little judgment you have.
The M$M is 90% crap. don't pay attention to it. What Trump says and tweets is 90$ crap. Don't pay attention to that either: While under cover of a fusilade of wild tweets Trump was desperately trying to reel the situation in, keep it from spinning out of control.
Watch what happens, don't pay attention to what people "say". It's all narrative, and you're fools for getting sucked in, either way.
Yup. I've probably read less than 20 tweets he's made since he was President, and that's only because legacy media news outlets flip their shit over them and that becomes the funny news story of the day. These guys have probably read thousands of them.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I love how sig and Jack keep suggesting MSN is all bullshit. MSN is web page. A web site morons. It collects stories from news outlets globally and puts them together on a web page. This allows you to find current updated news. And no sig, they don't edit the stories in any way like zerohedge does.
Get with it morons. Just because a story quoted here shows an MSN address the actual stories are from other sources.
Here is an example: The link below says MSN but the story was written by the Washington Post. The fact that you don't know that shows you're, as always, ignorant about the topic you're posting about.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/winners-and-losers-from-
the-iowa-democratic-debate/ar-BBYY2Or?ocid=spartandhp
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MSM, stupid.
M is different from N here, just like "it" is different from "in".
I can't believe I actually have to explain this to another human being. I really think you're evidence that neanderthals actually did survive.
And I haven't called it MSM for almost a year now. That would suggest it's mainstream, which it clearly isn't anymore. It's the Legacy Media.
Since it can be assumed without error that you don't know what legacy means, I suggest Googling it.
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Well, aside from your egregious mistake of thinking that I was referring to "a" website, let's move on to your bigger mistake (yep, there is one)
Quote:
A Microsoft network. It collects stories from news outlets globally and puts them together on a web page. This allows you to find current updated news. And no sig, they don't edit the stories in any way like zerohedge does.
Here are a few very recent headlines that I'm fair certain didn't appear in your "objective" websites ...
Transit buses converted into electric ones to reduce carbon emissions in Shandong
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/16/c_138708592.htm
Iraq, China launch 'oil for reconstruction' agreement
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/iraq-china-india-oi
l-construction.html
Russian government resigns
https://tass.com/politics/1109047
ISIS Cells Inflict Heavy Losses On Syrian Army In New Deir Ezzor Ambush (Photos)
https://southfront.org/isis-cells-inflict-heavy-losses-on-syrian-army-
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The Hugely Important OPCW Scandal Keeps Unfolding. Here’s Why No One’s Talking About It
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/11/18/the-hugely-important
-opcw-scandal-keeps-unfolding-heres-why-no-ones-talking-about-it
Yanno THUGR, stuff is happening all over the world. Some of it is world-changing, and yet you won't see hide nor hair in our "objective" media. The media selects what it wants to present. It's called "bias by selection and omission" and you can create any narrative you want by careful selection. (AND, OF COURSE, OUTRIGHT LIES, WHICH THE MEDIA HAS ALSO ENGAGED IN)
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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You're funny sig. You recently said living in Russia affords all the same freedoms and benefits of living in America, a democracy.
Sorry, but it's you that doesn't know what's going on in the world comrade. If you don't see the chasm of separation that exists between living under a dictator and living in a democracy, you surly are a Russian troll too afraid to stand up and change your circumstances. And you surly shouldn't be telling others how to think or live.
Turn to your right, then your left and tell kiki and Jack the jig is up.
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Originally posted by THG:
You're funny sig. You recently said living in Russia affords all the same freedoms and benefits of living in America, a democracy.
Sorry, but it's you that doesn't know what's going on in the world comrade. If you don't see the chasm of separation that exists between living under a dictator and living in a democracy, you surly are a Russian troll too afraid to stand up and change your circumstances. And you surly shouldn't be telling others how to think or live.
Turn to your right, then your left and tell kiki and Jack the jig is up.
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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.
But... But... I thought you said Trump was a dictator?
lol
5 more years of Trump buddy. Better saddle up.
What's up man? You didn't want to double down on your MSN stupidity?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:1) Bullshit. Never posted such a thing. Is this going to be like the conversation that that TWITCHY claims happened, that she can't find and nobody else can remember? LINKS, OR IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
Originally posted by THG:You're funny sig. You recently said living in Russia affords all the same freedoms and benefits of living in America, a democracy.
2) It might surprise you to know that Russia IS a democracy. They have multiparty elections with secret votes and (as far as I can tell) paper ballots; they have a Parliament and everything. In fact, the leading party is NOT the Communist Party, it is Russia United, and they have six parties in Parliament (a better choice than ours, where we have only three parties represented).
The days when all you could vote for was Communist Party members ended thirty years ago, dood. Try to keep up with the times! There are a lot of criticisms one could aim at Russia, but when you reach for the trope that Russia isn't a democracy you just look stoopid.
Quote:And then you double down on stoopid.
Sorry, but it's you that doesn't know what's going on in the world comrade. If you don't see the chasm of separation that exists between living under a dictator and living in a democracy, you surly are a Russian troll too afraid to stand up and change your circumstances. And you surly shouldn't be telling others how to think or live.
Here's the thing: You celebrate unelected unaccountable deep-staters who're busy running a foreign policy that nobody voted for and who're trying to depose a duly elected President. If this happened in Russia you would be screaming DIKTATORSHIP! but here you think it's a great idea?
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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so, an analysis of Putin's proposed changes to the Russian government:
Putin will step down from Presidential office, permanently, and reduce the role of President (his role, and future Presidents)
He will enhance the role of the Russian parliament (Duma) and a state council
Hardly the work of a "dictator".
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But this is like any post about the Democratic candidates ... it gets derailed very quickly into a screed about Trump.
YOU tend to derail any foreign policy discussion into YOUR fixation, which is RUSSIA!!!
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Pity would be no more,
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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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US troops were injured in Iran missile attack despite Pentagon initially saying there were no casualties
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-troops-were-injured-in-iran-mi
ssile-attack-despite-pentagon-initially-saying-there-were-no-casualties/ar-BBZ2uMU?ocid=spartandhp
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