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Think pleasant thoughts second. Happiness can not prevail in negativity.
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Fauci is sidelined by the White House as he steps up blunt talk on pandemic
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Quote:The Supreme Court is not about happiness or pleasant thinking or negativity. The decision made it crystal clear, at least to me, that Congress botched the drafting of the law:
Originally posted by THG:
Think pleasant thoughts second. Happiness can not prevail in negativity.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Quote:https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-9526_9okb.pdf
(b) Congress has since broken more than a few promises to the Tribe. Nevertheless, the Creek Reservation persists today. Pp. 6-28.
(1) Once a federal reservation is established, only Congress can diminish or disestablish it. Doing so requires a clear expression of congressional intent. Pp. 6-8.
(2) Oklahoma claims that Congress ended the Creek Reservation during the so-called “allotment era”—a period when Congress sought to pressure many tribes to abandon their communal lifestyles and parcel their lands into smaller lots owned by individual tribal members. Missing from the allotment-era agreement with the Creek, see 31 Stat. 862-864, however, is any statute evincing anything like the “present and total surrender of all tribal interests” in the affected lands. And this Court has already rejected the argument that allotments automatically ended reservations. Pp. 8-13.
If Congress wants Oklahoma criminal law to apply to everyone in Oklahoma, including the parts of Oklahoma in the Creek Reservation, then Congress needed to state that. But Congress failed to make it law, therefore Federal criminal law, not Oklahoma criminal law, will apply. As the Supreme Court helpfully pointed out to those idiots in Congress:
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Congress remains free to supplement its statutory directions about the lands in question at any time. Pp. 36-42.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Except that's not what happened at all.
Ted only reads headlines. Don't believe anything Ted has to say about literally anything.
SPOILER ALERT: It was a very bad ruling on the ability to try somebody who is American Indian who murdered or raped another for murder or rape they committed in Eastern Oklahoma. It's not as if any of the 1.8 million residents in eastern Oklahoma who aren't Indian are going to have their property seized and given to natives. This isn't South Africa. Thank God.
Among those who will not be prosecuted and/or have their cases thrown out even if already found guilty in the past because of this ruling is a man who killed his girlfriends ex husband and cut off his balls, and another man who raped a 4 year old girl on the Creek reservation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Can you link in the story Jack. I'm going to have to read this.
Yes. I'm trying to be extremely careful when giving any sources on this one though. Because, like everything else in 2020, almost nobody wants to report facts on either side and everything is opinion based.
Although it doesn't go into specific gory case detail of crimes, this is probably the most factual account I've found of the ruling overall:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scotus-rules-much-eastern-ok
lahoma-native-reservation-180975289/
In fact. I've learned something too by trying to find as politically neutral an account on the issue that I could when posting a link to you as well. The two Native Indian men I mentioned aren't necessisarily getting away with rape of a child and murder and mutilation. They will be re-tried in Federal court rather than state court.
And even if for some reason those crimes were to be put on trial and handled by Indian reservations, I can't imagine that there would be any reason why they wouldn't be punished harshly for what they did.
The most important bits of the article, as always, being at the bottom I will quote here:
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Kevin Gover, director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian, acting under secretary for museum and culture, and a citizen of the Pawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, tells Smithsonian magazine that the court’s decision is a “welcome” one because it upholds the principle that Native American treaties should be honored unless Congress explicitly revokes them. Still, he preaches caution in interpreting the ruling, pointing out that it centers on jurisdiction, not land ownership.
“The headlines are wrong,” says Gover in an emailed statement. “The Court did not give eastern Oklahoma back to the Tribes. Nobody will lose their land or their home. The decision simply means that Indians in that part of the state are subject only to the criminal jurisdiction of the Tribes and the United States, as is true on Indian reservations in many other states.”
Jimcy McGirt, a member of the Seminole Nation who in a state trial was convicted of sex crimes against a child, brought the case at the center of the ruling to the Supreme Court. Because the crime occurred on tribal land, McGirt argued that he should be re-tried in a federal court.
Per the Post, both McGirt and Patrick Murphy, a member of the Creek Nation convicted of murder in 1999 and the subject of a related case called Sharp v. Murphy, will now receive new federal hearings.
Jonodev Chaudhuri, a tribal ambassador for the Creek Nation, tells Kolby KickingWoman of Indian Country Today that the ruling is a huge win for the tribe. “Many folks are in tears,” he says. “Despite a history of many broken promises, as is true with many tribal nations, the citizens feel uplifted that for once the United States is being held to its promises.”
Summarizing the ruling’s overall significance for Vox, Ian Millhiser concludes, “The primary impact of McGirt is that Oklahoma loses much of its power to enforce certain laws against members
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Quote:"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.
In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.
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That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.
It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.
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It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.
"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.
More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
White man speak with forked tongue. Your government is still very capable of breaking treaties as I said to Kiki basically.
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Quote:Sadly, this is not a US Nunavut judicial moment. It's not as if the US government suddenly woke up and said - you know that land that we signed a treaty about, where we said it was yours forever but we took it anyway? That land really is yours.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.
That didn't happen.
I know that. Your government has whittled away at many a reservation down there over the years.
Still breaking treaties then remaking them to suit your use.
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.
In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.
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That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.
It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.
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In regard to relations with Native Americans don't make me laugh THG.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Except that's not what happened at all.
Ted only reads headlines. Don't believe anything Ted has to say about literally anything.
SPOILER ALERT: It was a very bad ruling on the ability to try somebody who is American Indian who murdered or raped another for murder or rape they committed in Eastern Oklahoma. It's not as if any of the 1.8 million residents in eastern Oklahoma who aren't Indian are going to have their property seized and given to natives. This isn't South Africa. Thank God.
Among those who will not be prosecuted and/or have their cases thrown out even if already found guilty in the past because of this ruling is a man who killed his girlfriends ex husband and cut off his balls, and another man who raped a 4 year old girl on the Creek reservation.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Can you link in the story Jack. I'm going to have to read this.
Yes. I'm trying to be extremely careful when giving any sources on this one though. Because, like everything else in 2020, almost nobody wants to report facts on either side and everything is opinion based.
Although it doesn't go into specific gory case detail of crimes, this is probably the most factual account I've found of the ruling overall:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scotus-rules-much-eastern-ok
lahoma-native-reservation-180975289/
In fact. I've learned something too by trying to find as politically neutral an account on the issue that I could when posting a link to you as well. The two Native Indian men I mentioned aren't necessisarily getting away with rape of a child and murder and mutilation. They will be re-tried in Federal court rather than state court.
And even if for some reason those crimes were to be put on trial and handled by Indian reservations, I can't imagine that there would be any reason why they wouldn't be punished harshly for what they did.
The most important bits of the article, as always, being at the bottom I will quote here:Quote:
Kevin Gover, director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian, acting under secretary for museum and culture, and a citizen of the Pawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, tells Smithsonian magazine that the court’s decision is a “welcome” one because it upholds the principle that Native American treaties should be honored unless Congress explicitly revokes them. Still, he preaches caution in interpreting the ruling, pointing out that it centers on jurisdiction, not land ownership.
“The headlines are wrong,” says Gover in an emailed statement. “The Court did not give eastern Oklahoma back to the Tribes. Nobody will lose their land or their home. The decision simply means that Indians in that part of the state are subject only to the criminal jurisdiction of the Tribes and the United States, as is true on Indian reservations in many other states.”
Jimcy McGirt, a member of the Seminole Nation who in a state trial was convicted of sex crimes against a child, brought the case at the center of the ruling to the Supreme Court. Because the crime occurred on tribal land, McGirt argued that he should be re-tried in a federal court.
Per the Post, both McGirt and Patrick Murphy, a member of the Creek Nation convicted of murder in 1999 and the subject of a related case called Sharp v. Murphy, will now receive new federal hearings.
Jonodev Chaudhuri, a tribal ambassador for the Creek Nation, tells Kolby KickingWoman of Indian Country Today that the ruling is a huge win for the tribe. “Many folks are in tears,” he says. “Despite a history of many broken promises, as is true with many tribal nations, the citizens feel uplifted that for once the United States is being held to its promises.”
Summarizing the ruling’s overall significance for Vox, Ian Millhiser concludes, “The primary impact of McGirt is that Oklahoma loses much of its
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.
In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.
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That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.
It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.
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It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.
"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.
More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
White man speak with forked tongue. Your government is still very capable of breaking treaties as I said to Kiki basically.
Every culture lies Brenda. Don't play the victim to the past. When speaking of the human race history shows no culture is any better than the next.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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The Canadian courts did the most remarkable thing in recent history and ruled - in response to a lawsuit - that
Yanno, that treaty that Canada broke? You're right. We owe the First Nations something for our bad faith.
And created Nunavut. Check out a map sometime to see what that means.
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.
In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.
T
That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.
It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.
T
It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.
"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.
More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
White man speak with forked tongue. Your government is still very capable of breaking treaties as I said to Kiki basically.
Every culture lies Brenda. Don't play the victim to the past. When speaking of the human race history shows no culture is any better than the next.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
I know that too THG. I'm not which is why I used that phrase. It still holds meaning today.
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How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?
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How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?
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All stupidity can usually be traced back to Ted. That is the case here.
I figure I should add to that statement by saying that I'm not referring to the subject matter, but to the fact that it's in this thread.
I believe it's safe to speak for everyone when I say the only reason that we didn't call him out on his stupidity like usual and discussed it here was out of respect for Brenda.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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"Hey hey hey. Dont be mean, peepl. You dont haf to be mean."
Bak on topic:
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Right now I think we should be happy for the Navajo who finally have this virus under control on their reserves.
The entire state of Arizona could learn a thing or two from them.
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JO, the sound is off. Can't hear your video but I guess that's intentional. Not to worry though, I still watched it. Bravo...
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Trump Was Wrong on Reopening Economy and Schools
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Quote:I like that.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And I thought this was funny!
When considering aerosol, I recall learning that every breath that a human takes this year contains at least one molecule of the last dying breath of Julius Caesar.
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Quote:Do you have to try really, really, really hard to make yourself this stupid?
Originally posted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793
Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.
"Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" would be an adequate analogy if Trump had said "Would there be half as many Covid Deaths if there were half as many Covid tests available?"
For those who can read (which obviously excludes you), this is not a new concept because 6ix has been repeating this for months and months now.
But Trump did not say this.
For Trump saying "Would there be half as many confirmed Covid cases if there were half as many Covid tests available?" then the adequate analogy would be "Would there be half as many known pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?"
You are such an ass. As well as dumbass.
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Originally posted by THG:
JO, the sound is off. Can't hear your video but I guess that's intentional. Not to worry though, I still watched it. Bravo...
Not intentional. Unfortunately, the Apeman action cam haz an intermitant sound problem.
Had fun with it with the title and video description.
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Virus explodes inisde Brazil and India now?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global/who-sound
s-alarm-as-coronavirus-cases-rise-by-one-million-in-five-days-idUSKCN24E1US
WHO sounds alarm as coronavirus cases rise by one million in five days
Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist | Almost 90 percent still have at least one symptom long after the virus has gone.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-infection-cov
id-19-symptoms-persist/
https://www.sciencealert.com/smoking-may-explain-why-1-in-3-young-adul
ts-are-at-risk-of-severe-coronavirus
One in Three Young Adults at Risk of Severe Coronavirus Infections, Study Finds
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Quote:Covid tests are needed to decide who should be in quarantine, but Trump doesn't like massive Covid-19 testing because it shows that the pandemic is growing faster and faster, which makes his reelection less and less likely. Is there a better explanation for why Trump tweeted this?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Do you have to try really, really, really hard to make yourself this stupid?
Originally posted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793
Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.
"Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" would be an adequate analogy if Trump had said "Would there be half as many Covid Deaths if there were half as many Covid tests available?"
For those who can read (which obviously excludes you), this is not a new concept because 6ix has been repeating this for months and months now.
But Trump did not say this.
For Trump saying "Would there be half as many confirmed Covid cases if there were half as many Covid tests available?" then the adequate analogy would be "Would there be half as many known pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?"
You are such an ass. As well as dumbass.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
This is why we have so many “cases” for the media to constantly refer to!
Under @realDonaldTrump’s leadership, over 40 MILLION coronavirus tests have been conducted with nearly 730,000 tests yesterday alone.
11:10 PM · Jul 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282890085483061248
Trump does not want the media to know that the number of cases is growing faster and faster. With fewer tests, the media would know less and Trump could smoothly be reelected. You should look at a chart of the number of cases, which can be found here:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-states?country=G
BR~USA
The chart makes Trump look bad. If there was less testing, the chart couldn't be drawn, which would be advantageous for Trump's campaign.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Do you have to try really, really, really hard to make yourself this stupid?
Originally posted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793
Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.
"Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" would be an adequate analogy if Trump had said "Would there be half as many Covid Deaths if there were half as many Covid tests available?"
For those who can read (which obviously excludes you), this is not a new concept because 6ix has been repeating this for months and months now.
But Trump did not say this.
For Trump saying "Would there be half as many confirmed Covid cases if there were half as many Covid tests available?" then the adequate analogy would be "Would there be half as many known pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?"
You are such an ass. As well as dumbass.
Yup. Second is a dumbass.
And yup... I have been saying that about the testing for months and months now.
Even Sigs is pretending like I haven't been right about this virus since the beginning.
She's conflating my trolling of Kiki with the legit stuff I had been saying since the beginning and the predictions I was making. She's also ignoring the fact that Kiki has ALWAYS attacked me first, and whenever I tried to be nice to her and go back to how we used to get along it only took a day or two before she'd attack me again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Former CDC chiefs rebuke Trump for ‘undermining’ agency’s guidelines
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Four former heads of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday implicitly rebuked President Donald Trump, arguing the “extraordinary” efforts by him and other administration officials to diminish the public health agency’s guidance was contributing to a resurgence of coronavirus cases across the United States.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-cdc-chiefs-rebuke-trump-for-u
ndermining-agency-s-guidelines/ar-BB16ICLE?ocid=msedgntp
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Only there isn't much of a resurgence, is there?
Remember those predictions that 2 to 4 million people were going to die in the US?
Even with the extremely fluffed numbers, we're not anywhere near those, are we?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Look at the countries that are exploding with Covid.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Virus explodes inisde Brazil and India now?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global/who-sound
s-alarm-as-coronavirus-cases-rise-by-one-million-in-five-days-idUSKCN24E1US
WHO sounds alarm as coronavirus cases rise by one million in five days
Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist | Almost 90 percent still have at least one symptom long after the virus has gone.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-infection-cov
id-19-symptoms-persist/
https://www.sciencealert.com/smoking-may-explain-why-1-in-3-young-adul
ts-are-at-risk-of-severe-coronavirus
One in Three Young Adults at Risk of Severe Coronavirus Infections, Study Finds
What do they have in common?
Fascist, authoritarian leaders who ignore science and couldn't care less about their own people.
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Go back to your hole, deep in Second's demented psyche, faggot.
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Quote:Still resorts to name calling when he gets destroyed and exposed as the little Nazi he is. XD
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go back to your hole, deep in Second's demented psyche, faggot.
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Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.
You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.
Nobody cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.
You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.
Nobody cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."
You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.
THG's sig line tells the whole story.
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Quote:All true.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:All stupidity can usually be traced back to Ted. That is the case here.
Originally posted by JO753:
How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?
I figure I should add to that statement by saying that I'm not referring to the subject matter, but to the fact that it's in this thread.
I believe it's safe to speak for everyone when I say the only reason that we didn't call him out on his stupidity like usual and discussed it here was out of respect for Brenda.
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Originally posted by JO753:
How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com .
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.
In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.
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That's how JO. I knew this news would be appreciated by Brenda so I threw it into a response to one of her posts.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Three U.S. states account for about one-fifth of the world's new coronavirus cases
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/three-u-s-states-account-for-abou
t-one-fifth-of-the-world-s-new-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB16JauZ?ocid=msedgntp
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.
You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.
Nobody cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."
You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.
THG's sig line tells the whole story.
lol
There are no Nazis, you fucking retard.
Isn't there still a trashcan in your city that still hasn't been set on fire by you masked terrorists?
You better get on that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Like THG said, stupid people don't realize they're stupid.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.
You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.
Nobody cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."
You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.
THG's sig line tells the whole story.
lol
There are no Nazis, you fucking retard.
Isn't there still a trashcan in your city that still hasn't been set on fire by you masked terrorists?
You better get on that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Of course there are Nazis, dipshit. They're the #1 terrorists in the country, and you love and fellate them with your idiocy.
It takes a very low IQ to be a Nazi. You qualify.
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Covid-19 has exposed the world’s greatest democracies, Britain and the US, as victims of prolonged self-harm; it has also demonstrated that countries with strong state capacity have been far more successful at stemming the virus’s spread and look better equipped to cope with the social and economic fallout.
South Korea rolled out testing at ‘walk-in’ booths all over the country, then used credit card records and location data from mobile phones to trace the movements of infected people – a tactic Britain has failed to master after months of effort. Other East Asian countries such as Taiwan and Singapore are also faring much better. Vietnam swiftly routed the virus. China managed to curb its spread and has since dispatched medics and medical supplies around the world.
Anglo-America’s dingy realities – deindustrialisation, low-wage work, underemployment, hyper-incarceration and enfeebled or exclusionary health systems – have long been evident. Nevertheless, the moral, political and material squalor of two of the wealthiest and most powerful societies in history still comes as a shock to some. In a widely circulated essay in the Atlantic, George Packer claimed that ‘every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find themselves citizens of a failed state.’ In fact, the state has been AWOL for decades, and the market has been entrusted with the tasks most societies reserve almost exclusively for government: healthcare, pensions, low-income housing, education, social services and incarceration.
More at "Flailing States"
www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n14/pankaj-mishra/flailing-states
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Like THG said, stupid people don't realize they're stupid.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.
You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.
Nobody cares.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."
You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.
THG's sig line tells the whole story.
lol
There are no Nazis, you fucking retard.
Isn't there still a trashcan in your city that still hasn't been set on fire by you masked terrorists?
You better get on that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Of course there are Nazis, dipshit. They're the #1 terrorists in the country, and you love and fellate them with your idiocy.
It takes a very low IQ to be a Nazi. You qualify.
You don't know what a Nazi is, fucktard.
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:
Covid-19 has exposed the world’s greatest democracies, Britain and the US, as victims of prolonged self-harm; it has also demonstrated that countries with strong state capacity have been far more successful at stemming the virus’s spread and look better equipped to cope with the social and economic fallout.
South Korea rolled out testing at ‘walk-in’ booths all over the country, then used credit card records and location data from mobile phones to trace the movements of infected people – a tactic Britain has failed to master after months of effort. Other East Asian countries such as Taiwan and Singapore are also faring much better. Vietnam swiftly routed the virus. China managed to curb its spread and has since dispatched medics and medical supplies around the world.
Anglo-America’s dingy realities – deindustrialisation, low-wage work, underemployment, hyper-incarceration and enfeebled or exclusionary health systems – have long been evident. Nevertheless, the moral, political and material squalor of two of the wealthiest and most powerful societies in history still comes as a shock to some. In a widely circulated essay in the Atlantic, George Packer claimed that ‘every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find themselves citizens of a failed state.’ In fact, the state has been AWOL for decades, and the market has been entrusted with the tasks most societies reserve almost exclusively for government: healthcare, pensions, low-income housing, education, social services and incarceration.
More at "Flailing States"
www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n14/pankaj-mishra/flailing-states
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You'd love if any of that were true, wouldn't you Second? Marxist, fascist, Legacy Media bot.
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Quote:How many times have you repeated your nervous twitch, 6ix? The twitchy phrases Trump repeats are LAW & ORDER! and The Silent Majority will reign! What a dopey guy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You'd love if any of that were true, wouldn't you Second? Marxist, fascist, Legacy Media bot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282892191082385408
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282669015794618373
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.
Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.
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Quote:In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.
The point being, I had plenty to spare.
I still have zero problems matching wits with self-proclaimed geniuses.
Namely you.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:How many times have you repeated your nervous twitch, 6ix? The twitchy phrases Trump repeats are LAW & ORDER! and The Silent Majority will reign! What a dopey guy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You'd love if any of that were true, wouldn't you Second? Marxist, fascist, Legacy Media bot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282892191082385408
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282669015794618373
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Don't you dare ask me about repetition.
How many times are you going to brag (see: lie) about being rich?
How many times are you going to say you won't be voting for Trump but lie that you'll be happy because of the huge tax breaks you're lying about?
How many times will you quote somebody and put in a 10 paragraph reply that has nothing to do with the quote?
How many times will you pass off a story as your own and not use quote brackets?
How many times will you go an entire days worth of posts without a single one not having the word Trump in it?
How many times will you bring up Trump's taxes that the IRS already knows?
I could go on, for a long time, but I'm bored with you tonight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted
The point being, I had plenty to spare.
I still have zero problems matching wits with self-proclaimed geniuses.
Namely you.
Considering all you do is make completely unsupported claims, troll, and lie, it doesn't seem like you have enough brains to do more than that.
You need to up your game if you want people to think of you as anything other than a common idiot.
I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.
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Your behavior has been gross since you bought into The Coomph panic.
Don't blame your Karenisms on me.
They deserve nothing more than my trolling.
And like with just about anything else, time will prove me right about this one too.
I'm a patient man.
In the mean time, go ahead and insult me if it makes you feel better. It's fun knowing that everyone who does happens to wear a mask for one reason or the other.
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I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.
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You apologize for your own shitty behavior, Karen, and leave the choice of whether or not to apologize for any of my own up to me.
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I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.
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Border closure between Canada and the US has been extended AGAIN. This time to Aug. 21st.
Washington State just logged another day of over 500 cases of Covid-19.
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Meanwhile, Trudeau just let's those Muslims in as fast as Soros can ship them.
lol
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.
The point being, I had plenty to spare.
I still have zero problems matching wits with self-proclaimed geniuses.
Namely you.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Your brain has lots of problems. Of course you don't see that yourself.
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The trumpnazis remain the stupidest people on Earth.
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Missouri School District Asks Parents To Sign COVID-19 ‘Death Waiver’
Safety first? A Missouri school district is asking parents to sign a waiver to release the district from liability if their child dies or is injured from COVID-19 related causes.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/07/misso
uri-school-district-asks-parents-to-sign-covid-19-death-waiver/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=367
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Quote:In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.
Haven't you noticed, all potheads brag they are smarter than anybody else. Their high level logic and critical thinking at work.
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I've been sober 3 years, 7 months and 15 days. That's sober from everything.
I quit smoking weed at least 2 years before I quit drinking. 
I'm a pot advocate, but I'm not a pot head.
Even when I smoked every day, a $60 ounce lasted me nearly 3 months. Hardly Snoop Doggin' it.
My being smarter than everybody else problem isn't a weed problem. It's a being smarter than everybody else problem.
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There’s no point in sugar-coating this. The U.S. response to the Covid-19 pandemic is a raging dumpster fire.
Where a number of countries in Asia and Europe have managed to dampen spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus to the point where they can consider returning to a semblance of normalcy — many international borders remain closed to Americans.
On Sunday, Florida reported more than 15,000 cases — in a single day. South Korea hasn’t registered 15,000 cases in the entire pandemic to date. One day last week the U.S. recorded more than 68,000 cases.
The website www.covidexitstrategy.org has updated its previously tri-colored U.S. map, which showed states as either green, signifying they are trending better; yellow, making progress; or red, trending poorly. A fourth designation, called “bruised red,” signals states with uncontrolled spread; criteria for this category includes hospitals nearing capacity both in terms of overall beds and ICU space. Already 17 states are wearing bruised red.
The virus suppression gains earned through the painful societal shutdowns of March, April, and May — the flattened epidemiological curves — have been squandered in many parts of the country, dejected public health experts agree. A vaccine for the masses is still months away. What can be done?
More at www.statnews.com/2020/07/14/fix-covid-19-dumpster-fire-us/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Nah.
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Quote:Pretty much.
Originally posted by second:
There’s no point in sugar-coating this. The U.S. response to the Covid-19 pandemic is a raging dumpster fire.
When it comes to per capita 'new cases', the US is second only to South Africa.
When it comes to per capita 'new deaths', the US is behind such luminaries as Peru, Brazil, Mexico, Chile, Bolivia, Columbia, Guatemala, and Iraq, in that order. But at least we're just ahead of Sweden!
http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/
We're in the sweet spot. We have all the first-world benefits that make us especially vulnerable: first-world 'lifestyle' risk factors like heart disease and age, plus the first-world benefits of reasonable transportation; but then we have a crap medical system and a corrupt, elite-protective political system that writes off mere peons, and that rivals any repressive plutocracy on the planet.
YAY US !!!
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We'll be fine.
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You must think you're one of the elite that's going to be looked-after medically and financially.
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Well, we know where 6 gets his news.
America has been 'Hannitized,' and the ignorance he spreads is deadly
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955881/-Protests-against-r
acist-police-violence-did-not-spread-COVID-19-but-Sean-Hannity-did?link_id=2&can_id=c100ca601958a2f6ee6b97d7b0eb3df9&source=email-we-are-in-serious-trouble-18&email_referrer=email_862599&email_subject=we-are-in-serious-trouble
But there is a political factor that’s increasing both the reach and the deadliness of the pandemic. Because studies are now showing how right-wing media, including Fox News, has deliberately spread confusion, conflicting information, and outright lies about the pandemic. These sources downplayed the risk, spread a false sense of security, and encouraged viewers to disregard their personal safety even as hospitals—and morgues—were filling. The most astounding result: Both infection rates and mortality can be mapped to places where Sean Hannity is most popular.
Hannity has long been Donald Trump’s most reliable purveyor of unreliable information, and on the COVID-19 crisis Hannity has worked overtime. In the early days of the crisis, Hannity could be counted on to declare it was a hoax. When Trump was pushing hydroxychloroquine, Hannity was all over it as a miracle drug. When Trump started pushing to reopen, Hannity got out the crow bars to complain that the economy was more important than grandma. So it’s no surprise that Hannity viewers are the most confused about the nature of the pandemic—and more likely to die as a result.
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Nice to have you back REAVERFAN
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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There were 77,255 new cases reported Thursday, topping the previous high of 67,791 two days ago. Holy shit Trump fucked this up.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Fox News pushed coronavirus misinformation 253 times in just five days
https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/fox-news-pushed-coro
navirus-misinformation-253-times-just-five-days
Fox News repeated coronavirus misinformation 253 times in its weekday coverage from July 6 through 10, including claims that undermined scientific research about the pandemic, eroded trust in public health experts and policy recommendations, called for reopening schools and businesses without regard to public health precautions, and politicized the country’s response to the virus.
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Quote:Imperial College of London worst-case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected – 268 million people – and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction. Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We'll be fine.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The worst-case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.
www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-1
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2.2 million dead is a small number in big country. For example, Gary Earl Johnson, Libertarian, got 4,489,341 votes in 2016. He literally had no chance of winning, but votes for him could have swung the election either way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election
#Electoral_results
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Went out with the helmet yesterday.
Its 3 videoz, but this forum duznt take embedz for playlists, so I hav to post the link to the individual video.
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Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Well, we know where 6 gets his news.
America has been 'Hannitized,' and the ignorance he spreads is deadly
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/25/1955881/-Protests-against-r
acist-police-violence-did-not-spread-COVID-19-but-Sean-Hannity-did?link_id=2&can_id=c100ca601958a2f6ee6b97d7b0eb3df9&source=email-we-are-in-serious-trouble-18&email_referrer=email_862599&email_subject=we-are-in-serious-trouble
But there is a political factor that’s increasing both the reach and the deadliness of the pandemic. Because studies are now showing how right-wing media, including Fox News, has deliberately spread confusion, conflicting information, and outright lies about the pandemic. These sources downplayed the risk, spread a false sense of security, and encouraged viewers to disregard their personal safety even as hospitals—and morgues—were filling. The most astounding result: Both infection rates and mortality can be mapped to places where Sean Hannity is most popular.
Hannity has long been Donald Trump’s most reliable purveyor of unreliable information, and on the COVID-19 crisis Hannity has worked overtime. In the early days of the crisis, Hannity could be counted on to declare it was a hoax. When Trump was pushing hydroxychloroquine, Hannity was all over it as a miracle drug. When Trump started pushing to reopen, Hannity got out the crow bars to complain that the economy was more important than grandma. So it’s no surprise that Hannity viewers are the most confused about the nature of the pandemic—and more likely to die as a result.
I've always said that Hannity and Limbaugh are two of the biggest pieces of shit in America.
Take that shit to JSF, because once again you don't know what you're talking about.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:WTF?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Imperial College of London worst-case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected – 268 million people – and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction. Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We'll be fine.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The worst-case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.
www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-1
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second is agreeing with 6ix?
What is going on here?
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JO love the video buddy. You made my evening better.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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xanks!
Posted a debunk vid today:
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Masks are for children on Halloween.
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Quote:Not actually agreeing with 6ix. Trump was bragging that the eventual number of deaths could be as high as 2.2 million and, therefore, everybody should be thanking Trump for saved lives. For example of how Trump does arithmetic: with 200,000 deaths, Trump would say he saved 2 million lives. When I do the total, Trump is an incompetent who killed 200,000. His final death total could have been more like Japan's 985.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:WTF?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Imperial College of London worst-case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected – 268 million people – and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction. Neither the high infection rate nor the high fatality rate holds up under scrutiny.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We'll be fine.
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The worst-case Imperial College estimate of 2.2 million deaths if everyone does “nothing” did not simply mean no government lockdowns. It meant nobody avoids crowded elevators, or wears face masks, washes their hands more often, or buys gloves or hand sanitizer. Everyone does literally nothing to avoid danger.
www.cato.org/blog/how-one-model-simulated-22-million-us-deaths-covid-1
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second is agreeing with 6ix?
What is going on here?
www.google.com/search?q=japan+covid-19+death+toll
Japan has many of the conditions that make it vulnerable to Covid-19, but it never adopted the energetic approach to tackling the virus that some of its neighbours did. Japan had no lockdown, but it has an elderly population. Japan has fewer than 20,000 confirmed cases and fewer than 1,000 deaths. The state of emergency has been lifted, and life is rapidly returning to normal.
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847
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Trump really missed an opportunity there. 2.2 Million is a serious lowball compared to some of the laughable numbers the chicken little Mask Karens were terrorizing each other with on Titter.
He didn't kill anybody, you stupid fuck.
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Quote:Trump did kill people with his ridiculously contradictory messages. Japan asked people to take care, stay away from crowded places, wear masks and wash their hands - and by and large, that is exactly what most people have done and the result is that only 985 died. Trump told people in his deeply confusing TV appearances on Coved-19 to do the opposite of Japan and the result is 141,000 died.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump really missed an opportunity there. 2.2 Million is a serious lowball compared to some of the laughable numbers the chicken little Mask Karens were terrorizing each other with on Titter.
He didn't kill anybody, you stupid fuck.
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www.google.com/search?q=japan+covid-19+death+toll
www.google.com/search?q=usa+covid-19+death+toll
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847
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I congratulate you for posting an on-point, FACT-based reply. So, in general, please keep up the effort! I would love to continue a fact-based discussion with you about multiple topics.
But FACTS don't matter to JACKAREN. Not even if they're linked to multiple orignal sources.
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Quote:1kiki, if I was Republican, I could easily say that Japan had only 985 deaths, compared to 141,000 in America, because of a Mysterious X-Factor that only Asians have. Claiming X exists would exonerate Trump. It doesn't have to exist in reality in order to make Trump voters feel good in their heads about Trump. From the article www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847 :
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I congratulate you for posting an on-point, FACT-based reply. So, in general, please keep up the effort! I would love to continue a fact-based discussion with you about multiple topics.
But FACTS don't matter to JACKAREN. Not even if they're linked to multiple orignal sources.
Tokyo University professor Tatsuhiko Kodama - who studies how Japanese patients react to the virus - believes Japan may have had Covid before. Not Covid-19, but something similar that could have left behind "historical immunity".
He thinks it is possible a Sars-like virus has circulated in the region before, which may account for the low death rate, not just in Japan, but in much of China, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and South East Asia.
This has been met with some scepticism.
"I am not sure how such a virus could be restricted to Asia," says Professor Kenji Shibuya, director of Public Health at Kings College, London and a former senior adviser to the government.
Professor Shibuya does not discount the possibility of regional differences in immunity or genetic susceptibility to Covid. But he is suspicious of the idea of a "Factor X" that explains the mortality differences.
More at www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53188847
It is absolutely easy to excuse Trump's failures. "Factor X" works for Trump's Covid-19 fiasco. There are other "Factor X's" for other Trump fiascoes. Trump letting Nuclear Weapons Treaties lapse? He can get a better deal if he starts with a clean slate, which is why he let the treaties end. See how easy it is to explain away Trump failures? Trump cheating on his taxes? It is an attack on the Separation of Powers if Trump has to give his tax returns to Congress, despite him promising to publicize his taxes as soon as his IRS audit is completed. It is so very easy for Trump to handle any failure with a quick excuse.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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There's a difference between a neutral dive into ALL the relevant facts in order to come closer to the truth ... as compared to your cherry-picking process in your post above, which is similar to the one that got us into Iraq. And how did that cherry-picking process work out?
Looking at all the facts v cherry-picking to support an agenda? One is better than the other.
Just saying.
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Yup. I remember that press conference where Trump told everybody in the nation not to wash their hands.
Fuck you, Second.
If you didn't wash your hands before an overblown cold came out, you probably deserve what you get now.
And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
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Quote:You don't remember Trump's Covid-19 Task Force briefings, do you? Rambling and incoherent nonsense coming out of Trump. That's why Japan has only 985 deaths and Trump has 140,000 deaths.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. I remember that press conference where Trump told everybody in the nation not to wash their hands.
Fuck you, Second.
If you didn't wash your hands before an overblown cold came out, you probably deserve what you get now.
And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:And yet Cuomo's ~23% of old people dying of COVID-19 is roughly half the national average of 42%, and one fourth of DeWine's 82%. Cuomo should have tried harder to get even more old folks killed so the democrat shithole of NY that he runs could equal DeWine's republican paradise of Ohio.
And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
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Quote:Lancet editorial blasts Trump’s ‘inconsistent and incoherent’ coronavirus response
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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The unsigned editorial from the Lancet concluded that Trump should be replaced. “Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics,” said the journal, which was founded in Britain in 1823.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200601122653/www.washingtonpost.com/heal
th/2020/05/15/lancet-editorial-trump-administration-coronavirus-response/
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Masks Off: How the Brothers Who Fueled the Reopen Protests Built a Volatile Far-Right Network
The emails played to fear. “Entire police departments are being overwhelmed by mobs of criminals bent on violence, robbery, arson, and more,” read one sent in June, as demonstrations against police brutality rocked the country. “Minnesotans have seen our peaceful streets turn violent overnight with riotous mobs,” read another, sent not long after the burning of Minneapolis’s Third Precinct. “Radical leftists … are looting in our streets, lighting buildings on fire, terrifying citizens, and murdering cops,” intoned a third. Antifa is in the streets, coming for your guns, and did you know that Nickelodeon is removing the police dog character from the hit toddler show “Paw Patrol?” (It isn’t.)
For right-wing fringe activist Ben Dorr, who sent the emails, outrage about Black Lives Matter was an easy pivot from another cause he’d been promoting. With his brothers Aaron, Chris, and Matthew, Ben Dorr helped launch protests to reopen states across the country shut down amid the coronavirus pandemic this spring. Alone or together, the four Dorr brothers started a slew of Facebook groups, joined by hundreds of thousands of members, that have helped to fuel skepticism about health precautions and pushed for states to open prematurely. In a country where the simple act of wearing a mask has become a political statement, the people who organize against masks are worth watching.
Before they began railing against public health measures, the brothers started gun rights and anti-abortion groups in multiple states, registering them as nonprofits and then paying out some of the money that they raise from donations to a for-profit direct mail company that they themselves control, according to IRS tax forms required to be filed by nonprofits.
More at https://theintercept.com/2020/07/17/dorr-brothers-coronavirus-protests/
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:And yet Cuomo's ~23% of old people dying of COVID-19 is roughly half the national average of 42%, and one fourth of DeWine's 82%. Cuomo should have tried harder to get even more old folks killed so the democrat shithole of NY that he runs could equal DeWine's republican paradise of Ohio.
And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
I think he did enough.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Lancet editorial blasts Trump’s ‘inconsistent and incoherent’ coronavirus response
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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The unsigned editorial from the Lancet concluded that Trump should be replaced. “Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics,” said the journal, which was founded in Britain in 1823.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200601122653/www.washingtonpost.com/heal
th/2020/05/15/lancet-editorial-trump-administration-coronavirus-response/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Bullshit.
We all know what he means is that everybody should just do what Democrats want. There should be zero diversity of opinion. Obey.
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Quote:Trump has avoided giving orders. If he can convince voters that it is not his responsibility, then he gets votes from people like 6ix. If he starts giving orders, he loses their vote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Bullshit.
We all know what he means is that everybody should just do what Democrats want. There should be zero diversity of opinion. Obey.
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Each morning at 8 as the coronavirus crisis was raging in April, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, convened a small group of aides to steer the administration through what had become a public health, economic and political disaster.
Seated around Mr. Meadows’s conference table and on a couch in his office down the hall from the Oval Office, they saw their immediate role as practical problem solvers. Produce more ventilators. Find more personal protective equipment. Provide more testing.
But their ultimate goal was to shift responsibility for leading the fight against the pandemic from the White House to the states. They referred to this as “state authority handoff,” and it was at the heart of what would become at once a catastrophic policy blunder and an attempt to escape blame for a crisis that had engulfed the country — perhaps one of the greatest failures of presidential leadership in generations.
Over a critical period beginning in mid-April, President Trump and his team convinced themselves that the outbreak was fading, that they had given state governments all the resources they needed to contain its remaining “embers” and that it was time to ease up on the lockdown.
In doing so, he was ignoring warnings that the numbers would continue to drop only if social distancing was kept in place, rushing instead to restart the economy and tend to his battered re-election hopes.
Casting the decision in ideological terms, Mr. Meadows would tell people: “Only in Washington, D.C., do they think that they have the answer for all of America.”
I have seen how the governor of Texas handles Covid-19. I see he has no answers. He says don't blame me -- I'm not President, frequently. At least 25 other governors also have no answers.
www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-response-fail
ure-leadership.html
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The longer this goes on, maybe Kiki will realize that she's standing on the same side of the line as Ted, Marcos, Second and all of the true deplorables on the mask issue.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm
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Quote:The Republican governor of Maryland painted a damning portrait of the Trump administration's handling of the coronavirus. "I'd watched as the president downplayed the outbreak's severity and as the White House failed to issue public warnings, draw up a 50-state strategy, or dispatch medical gear or lifesaving ventilators from the national stockpile to American hospitals. Eventually, it was clear that waiting around for the president to run the nation's response was hopeless; if we delayed any longer, we'd be condemning more of our citizens to suffering and death. So every governor went their own way, which is how the United States ended up with such a patchwork response."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The longer this goes on, maybe Kiki will realize that she's standing on the same side of the line as Ted, Marcos, Second and all of the true deplorables on the mask issue.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm
www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/opinions/weve-never-been-here-before-column-gal
ant/index.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump has avoided giving orders. If he can convince voters that it is not his responsibility, then he gets votes from people like 6ix. If he starts giving orders, he loses their vote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Bullshit.
We all know what he means is that everybody should just do what Democrats want. There should be zero diversity of opinion. Obey.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Each morning at 8 as the coronavirus crisis was raging in April, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, convened a small group of aides to steer the administration through what had become a public health, economic and political disaster.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Trumps real wall...
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others. 
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The Communists were out in full force in this thread this morning I see.
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Sounds to me like she wasn't brainwashed by Marxists.
Good for her.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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And a huge amount of those deaths were when Cuomo put sick younger people with the old folks. Democrat shithole ran by Democrats.
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And yet Cuomo's ~23% of old people dying of COVID-19 is roughly half the national average of 42%, and one fourth of DeWine's 82%. Cuomo should have tried harder to get even more old folks killed so the democrat shithole of NY that he runs could equal DeWine's republican paradise of Ohio.
Quote:Then DeWine did 4X too much, because he killed 4X as many old folks in his republican paradise as Cuomo did in his democratic shithole.
I think he did enough.
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How exactly did he kill anybody?
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How did Cuomo kill anybody?
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/ohio/
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