Good Low Budget and Independent Flicks
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This is usually my go to for movies these days, since most of the Hollywood schlock doesn't do it for me anymore and I'd rather not support a majority of the people involved in their production anymore anyhow.
Anybody seen any good ones lately? I don't mean new ones. They can be from any year.
Here's a small list of the ones I've seen in the last year or two and really enjoyed.
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An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn [1998] (Eric Idle, Ryan O'Neal, Richard Jeni)
Locke [2013] (Tom Hardy)
Never Let Me Go [2010] (Carey Mulligan, Andrew Garfield, Keira Knightley)
Safe House* [1998] (Patrick Stewart, Kimberly Williams)
The Hunt [2020] (Betty Gilpin, [spoiler alert], Emma Roberts, many others)
Under the Silver Lake [2018] (Andrew Garfield)
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I know there's others. I'll try to update the list and would love some good recommendations if you've got them.
I should probably put a bad list on here too, because they can't all be winners, even when you watch them because somebody who's opinion you respect steered you wrong.
The Witch** [2015] (Anya-Taylor Joy, Ralph Ineson)
* Safe House - I'd recommend not looking up anything about this movie and just going into it blind. I'm going to assume that anything you read about it anywhere is going to spoil it for you since the 2 sentence IMDB summary lets the cat out of the bag. Hell... even the eight word tag-line on the VHS box does.
** The Witch - You might actually like The Witch. It is beautifully shot and it certainly looks as though you're living in the period which it was depicting. Their accents are terrible though, and I found that you couldn't even understand half of what they were saying. Watching a few videos on YouTube "explaining" the movie, I came away thinking that they saw a much better movie than I saw. I might try to watch it again alone this time and with subtitles. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake.
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I don't pay a lot of attention to budgets and independence any more.
If I mention a film, a clue may be included just to ID the correct film.
Have you seen City of Lost Children, with Ron Perlmann? It was one of the best films in the year it came out.
Mute Witness, with ?Marina Sedona? or maybe Rob Morrow?
A Little Princess with Liesel Mathews? Perhaps the best film in the year it came out.
The Thin Blue Line, director Errol Morris
The Brothers McMullen? - Ed Burns
She's The One? - Ed Burns
Lady In The Box, Paige Rowland, Mark Shepard
Wind River was produced independently, and was the best film in 2017.
Ace Ventura was supposed to be low budget, but that might be relative.
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I do not believe I've seen any of those, except for Ace Ventura.
Thanks for the suggestions.
It's funny that you brought that one up, because I was thinking that to have a loose criteria for low budget, we should cap it at $15 Million. That just happens to be exactly what the budget was for Ace Ventura.
We'll count it though, even with inflation. Some of the movies I put up there were close to that number and were old enough that they'd be over $15 Million in today's dollars too.
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Have you seen Mom And Dad Save The World, with Teri Garr, Eric Idle, Dwier Brown? Not sure of that budget.
I'd assume UHF had a low budget, with Michael Richards, Fran Drescher. Most hilarious film I've seen in cinema (several times).
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This is likely before your time:
Jim Carrey was mostly only known for his Fireman skit. He was signed for only $450,000 for Ace Ventura. He got a little more for The Mask.
His agent was trying to get him signed for $400,000 for his next film, Dumb and Dumber. But some exec at New Line balked at anything over $350,000, since he wasn't a proven property.
Both sides did not complete negotiations before the opening weekend of Ace.
Then New Line finally signed him for $7M.
We all wondered how long that guy was going to have a job, after costing New Line an extra $6,000,000.
The director says Ace cost $11M.
Also, with City of Lost Children, the cinematography and color is amazing for it's time, so watch on a really good screen. I ran a film poll back then and the only people who didn't include it in their top 3 of the year had not seen it. Same with A Little Princess, which was a remake of a Shirley Temple work.
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How about Lone Star? Filmed about the same time as A Time To Kill, which also starred both Chris Cooper and Matthew McCaughnahey.
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The veritable definition of "Low Budget" films:
The Texas Chainsaw Masacre
Halloween, even with Donald Pleasance and Kyle Richards.
Friday The 13th.
Mad Max, which was almost only shown in Drive-Ins in America.
After that, Tim was perhaps the best acting performance by Mel. Sometime compare that film to suffering through one where the perpetually stupid and inept Sean Penn muddles through pretending to be stupid. They were both in something lately about The Mad Man.
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I don't believe I've seen Mom and Dad Save the World, but I remember it being advertised when I was a kid.
UHF was awesome, and I still watch it from time to time to this day.
Sadly, I'm old enough to have watched Jim Carrey on In Living Color. I only recently found out about how little Carrey got paid for his early films. I think The Mask was the first movie where he pulled in Millions if I remember correctly. IMDB said that Ace cost $15 Million (Estimated), but the Directory probably knows better if he's remembering right.
City of Lost Children is the one on your list that I'm most interested in. It will probably be my next watch when I get the time and feel like watching a flick. I don't have a huge screen, but it's a quality one.
Never heard of Lone Star.
I grew up with Beyond the Thunderdome. I watched Mad Max in my early 20's and was bored. It might be worth another watch now though.
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The Mask was completed before Ace was released, and was actually released a few months after Ace. So Carrey did not make his millions for it, but both Ace and Mask made millions for the producers.
Dumb and Dumber is when he made millions for himself, as I explained.
The $11M figure from the director is in imdb under trivia, or did you know? section.
I think his co-lead Jeff Daniels made $50k.
Lone Star is excellent.
MaDStW is very funny, and Jon Lovitz and Kathy Ireland were great, plus Jeffrey Jones.
Mad Max was largely unheard of in USA, until Road Warrior came out and that was a breakout hit.
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I conjure you have seen Billy Jack, which I think was both low budget and independent.
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Indie? You have a whole genre of exploitation film, cheesy scifi fantasy softcore horror crap made in the 1960s, 70s and 1980s, Blaxploitation, Canuxploitation, splatter, slasher, an entire genre of low-budget films produced in Canada, Aus did some too, you have lower budget animation, you have quirky films from Germany, France, Spain, Japan, lots and lots of specific genre type like 'Horror Sciif' the Revisionist Western Spaghetti genre or Weirdest Absurd/Surreal Comedy, or Zombie movies. If you can put up with the Politics you have Michael Moore's 'Where to Invade Next' the Sicko movie, Fahrenheit 9/11 he also exposed some of the politics behind the Green Energy industry, I think that one is free on youtube or vimeo or dailymotion you had lots and lots of documentary political historical stuff free on social media sites, oldest classics like Metropolis by Fritz Lang. Big hits You have
Mad Max
Friday the 13th
Nosferatu by F.W. Murnau
Dark Star
Boss Nigger
Foxy Brown
Blacula
Dolemite
Fistful of Dollars
Night of the Living Dead
Human Tornado
El Mariachi
Eraserhead
Tetsuo The Iron Man
The Devil's Backbone El espinazo del diablo
Joyeux Noël
Run Lola Run
La Haine
Young Frankenstein
Killer Clowns from Outer Space
Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead
Planes, Trains & Automobiles
Evil Dead
Bad Taste
Black Sheep
Jonestown
Waco
Once Were Warriors a New Zealand drama film
Das Boot
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Deer Hunter
the old school Japanese animations like Akira
Triplets of Belleville French animation Les Triplettes de Belleville
all those hongkong john woo Chow Yun-fat, Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee films
Way of the Dragon, Police Story etc
Horror Hits like Halloween
Bubba Ho-Tep
The new Asian scifi like S.Korea's 'The Host'
Korean I'm a Cyborg, But That's OK
JSA Joint Security Area
Documentary like Super Size Me
If you really want to go down the film maker rabbit hole you have this thing called ' Shorts ' very short films and very short movies, basically an idea or dialogue or plot condensed into 10 mins. I guess the final goal is for the film maker to advertise their ability and hopefully one day get work from a larger studio, the film shorts you will find a lot of them on vimeo, dailymotion and youtube. Some use CGI these days but its mostly old school techniquies and very indie, Arty film school stuff...They are not Hollywood, its back to pure writing, pure comedy, pure simple fantasy fiction and drama, pure film making before the days of Hollywood.
Totally indie & Their budgets are as low as you get.
Tom Hardy's Locke was an amazing film, I had massive respect for Hardy as an actor after watching that film. I dont really know anything like it
Korean film seems to be where its all at now if you can put up with reading subtitles.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Indie?
These are the one's I've seen on your list. For the most part, they were all pretty good or even great:
Mad Max
Friday the 13th
Dolemite
Young Frankenstein
Killer Clowns from Outer Space
Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead
Planes, Trains & Automobiles
Evil Dead
Black Sheep
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Halloween
Bubba Ho-Tep
Any others in your list you would particularly recommend?
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If you really want to go down the film maker rabbit hole you have this thing called ' Shorts ' very short films and very short movies, basically an idea or dialogue or plot condensed into 10 mins. I guess the final goal is for the film maker to advertise their ability and hopefully one day get work from a larger studio, the film shorts you will find a lot of them on vimeo, dailymotion and youtube. Some use CGI these days but its mostly old school techniquies and very indie, Arty film school stuff...They are not Hollywood, its back to pure writing, pure comedy, pure simple fantasy fiction and drama, pure film making before the days of Hollywood.
Totally indie & Their budgets are as low as you get.
I've not seen too many short flicks, but years back I caught a few on IFC. I can't find it now on YouTube, but my favorite was a black and white one from the early 2000s where a guy was going outside of his building for a smoke break. Along his long trek to the outside, he made small talk with people around the office and you saw all the no-smoking signs everywhere warning that smoking kills.
At the end of the flick, one of the guys he said hi to on his way out was actually a shooter, and the film ended with the only guy who survived being the guy who was forced outside to have a smoke.
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Tom Hardy's Locke was an amazing film, I had massive respect for Hardy as an actor after watching that film. I dont really know anything like it
Ah... So you're the other person that saw it.
I found it quite enthralling. It's a movie you can't really explain to anybody, because I'm sure any way I tried to sell it would make it sound stupid.
One of my favorite "genres" of movies is where they can make all or at least a majority of the film take place in a single location... the more claustrophobic the better.
Movies like Circle, Phone Booth, and Devil come to mind.
Locke was that, but it was also very much different than that. Only one man and his tech on the road. I've never seen Tom Hardy before, but I have to praise his acting chops for that flick. What a potentially horrible idea for a movie production if they had a bad actor and/or director doing it.
The film left me wanting for more when the credits started rolling, and I went from "wait... that's bullshit! You can't end it there!" to thinking about all of the possibilities of what happened to everybody after it was over.
That's my absolute favorite type of movie. The ones that I'm still thinking about days or even weeks after I've seen it.
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Korean film seems to be where its all at now if you can put up with reading subtitles.
I'm not a huge fan of that, but I might start being more relaxed about it. I don't know if my hearing is changing a bit or what. I don't have any problems IRL hearing what people are saying, but at least on the modern TVs I find that I have to turn the volume up quite a bit in any movie that has a lot of action just to hear the voices. When I visit my bro, my old man is always using subtitles when we watch something, and now that they're getting so easy to use in modern streaming services, I'm making use of it from time to time myself. When I watched Locke, I used it. Not that it was action heavy or his accent was too thick, but it was still an accent and I wanted to make sure I didn't miss any of his dialogue.
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Any others in your list you would particularly recommend?
Really it Depends what you're into and sometimes me personally my mood or taste in film might vary depending on the day of the week or time of the year or whatever, sometimes I like thrillers, other times fantasy adventure or scifi
If you're into escapist animation, maybe checking out foreign stuff, make the Japanese Akira or French 'Les Triplettes de Belleville'
Horror? maybe check out the original Black and White movie Night of the Living Dead
Old Weird Classic Retro Scifi comedy then maybe 'Dark Star'
The net can help you sometimes. Websites like 'Taste of Cinema' List Genres such as 'Dystopia'
http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2014/20-great-dystopian-films-that-are-wo
rth-your-time/
another site called Taste Dive gives you films that are similar vibe or Movies like the one you just seen
https://tastedive.com/movies/like/Killer-Klowns-From-Outer-Space
There is also a Movie Map site which links movies that are like each other but I'm not sure I always agree with the websites picks
https://www.movie-map.com/the+evil+dead
Biblr another site
https://bilbr.com/movies-like-mad-max/
and Movie Flavor
https://www.movieflavor.com/similar/The+Great+Outdoors/1988
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I've found recently that I have a REAL hard time actually sitting down to watch a movie, and an even harder time getting into a TV show. If it's a TV show that has had a multiple season run already it gets harder for me to want to watch it the more seasons it has, but at the same time if it's a new show I usually don't want to get into it because it's probably going to be cancelled before it wraps up.
I can literally sit and watch YouTube for hours when I'm winding down for the day though. I think it's because YouTube spent the last decade and a half tweaking and reaching near-perfection with it's presentation and the behind the scenes algorithms (all political bias aside).
There's just a sense of a lot more control there, and if you feel like watching a 2 hour video by a content creator you like you can, but most of the time it's 10 or 15 minute videos that you can always click off of if they're not doing it for you. The "next up" is usually a good choice considering the video you were just watching and the sidebar/homepage has a lot of good choices based off of your prior viewing habits.
To watch a movie, I've got to fire up my TV which rarely ever even gets turned on, load up the Fire Stick, and then mindlessly surf all of the options out there until I find something that maybe I might be interested enough in investing 90 minutes or more of my time... all based off of the cover image of the DVD, a one paragraph blurb, and an almost meaningless 5 star rating system.
That's why I like recommendations from other people. I get most of mine from youtube channels these days, if I'm not getting them from my old man. My friends mostly are into Hollywood schlock that I have no interest in, and my brothers have totally different tastes than I do.
I'd be interested in some of your "must watch" list though, knowing how much you liked Locke.
Thanks for the tips on those websites. I'll check them out.
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Finally got access to City of Lost Children. I'm going to check that one out when I can find the time to unwind.
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I watched City of Lost Children last night. Thanks for the recommendation JSF. That was right up my ally.
I was thinking it was a mix of Ink, Brazil and Dark City. Ink, which I've mentioned here several times before as perhaps my favorite movie, came out quite a bit after the fact, but had to have been HUGELY influenced by this movie.
Is there a dubbed version? I happened to watch the subtitled version. It was annoying at first, but once I got into the movie it didn't bother me much. It was probably less bothersome than some bad dub job would have been.
Beautiful sets and cinematography.
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Delicatessen in 1991 could be another for you, French Horror Comedy scifi-ish? Dominique Pinon again as an actor, Director Jean-Pierre again. Maybe surrealist but more thriller and great camera work and sound, visually stimulating film, just a unique movie from beginning to end. He also did the weird Rom-Com Amélie and the 4th Alien movie, one of Joss Whedon's first feature film scripts. If you like his stuff you might enjoy that whole french new wave-surrealist quirky film they have been doing since the 70s, 80s and 1990s, I think maybe Cronenberg, Terry Gilliam, Chan-wook Park, Sam Raimi or David Lynch or Kubrick were maybe inspired by French films even if they did not admit it.
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It's funny you mention Delicatessin and Amelie. I saw both of them mentioned when I did some reading on CoLT after I watched it. I can't imagine I'd have any interest in Amelie, but Delicatessen kind of piqued my interest. (Despite what I consider a terrible name that would have immediately turned me off had I not bumped into it the way that I did).
You just mentioned a whole list of directors that I do enjoy. It wouldn't surprise me if they were influenced by French surrealism flicks if CoLT is anything to go by.
You ever see Run Lola Run? My brother just raved about it today when I was telling him about CoLT. I think I'm going to give that a watch next.
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Quote:Keep in mind this cinematography is from almost 30 years ago. I think that was also pre-CGI.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I watched City of Lost Children last night. Thanks for the recommendation JSF. That was right up my ally.
I was thinking it was a mix of Ink, Brazil and Dark City. Ink, which I've mentioned here several times before as perhaps my favorite movie, came out quite a bit after the fact, but had to have been HUGELY influenced by this movie.
Is there a dubbed version? I happened to watch the subtitled version. It was annoying at first, but once I got into the movie it didn't bother me much. It was probably less bothersome than some bad dub job would have been.
Beautiful sets and cinematography.
I think I saw a version once which had dubbed ST. I am not sure which version I have now.
I think the subtitles is how I saw it in cinema. Back then, that level of cinematography was only available on the big screen.
That level of cinematography I think is most closely matched lately in Jane Got A Gun (or maybe it was Hateful Eight), Wind River,
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It was 95, which was two years after Jurassic Park came out.
There was some CGI, but like most things that didn't cost a bajillion bucks and have Spielberg or Lucas attached it wasn't particularly good. Probably on-par with the "dust" effect on the Buffy TV show. Thankfully it was minimal and if you didn't allow it to take you out of the movie than it doesn't.
I'm referring to the sequences with the mind-control flea and the green mist that contained the nightmare which floated around the port town and ultimately through Miette's nose.
I'm not going to fault the movie for that. I can't imagine that there were really any other good options to get that point across with the budget they had at a time when big budget studios were using million dollar computers less powerful than a standard smart phone today to make Dinosaurs come to life.
I'm betting the dub job isn't very good, which would be a shame. It's probably better that I watched the subtitled version.
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Got a good source of Run Lola Run after an aborted attempt yesterday. The one I watched seemed to be "jarring" in how it began and was just slightly over 30 minutes long.
Being that it was French cinema, I thought this was odd, but it was perhaps intentional. But after about 10 minutes I decided to look into it more and discovered it was a full feature length movie.
It looks like that's one of the rare flicks that the critics and audience are in complete agreement with. 93% critic score with 83 reviews, and 90% audience score with over 100,000 reviews.
What little I saw so far has my interest piqued.
I would advise not putting on subtitles along with the dub though. That's a habit I've started to get into when watching action movies just so I don't miss any dialogue. But it ends up with hilarious results here since the dub and the subtitles don't match at all and you end up with a sort of schizophrenic feeling if you're reading different words than what is being spoken.
I'll let you know what I think of it after I watch it. Hopefully I'll be able to get Delicatessen soon too. Who knows? Maybe I'll even watch Amelie and feel super cultured.
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Oh... Since we're on the French kick, anybody here ever see Banlieue 13, aka District B13?
I believe it was actually made in French Canada, does that still count?
That was one of the better action flicks I've seen over the years. At least with the Dub, it doesn't seem to be the deepest movie ever written, but the parkour stunts are amazing.
If you got a kick out of the opening scene from Casino Royale, Banlieue 13 is a must watch.
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Subtitles are supposed to translate what was said on screen, although that doesn't always happen with fidelity.
Dubbing is supposed to attempt a match at both meaning, inference, and lip-syncing. Dubbing of old Chop-Saki fliks from the 70s where the Asian person runs his mouth for a minute, and the Dub says "no" are not good examples of dubbing.
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It was kind of funny to see swears show up in the subtitles, but none spoken... only a minute later to have swears said on screen, but no swears in the subtitles.
If I hadn't already decided to watch the dubbed version instead of subtitles, the choice was made for me. I don't have the option for a French audio stream. At least the dub seems passable.
Assuming there aren't any problems with it again, I'll probably watch it tonight.
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(Edited post on 4/23/2021):
Run Lola Run is a German film. Not a French film. My mistake.
Ended up with a subtitle version when it was fixed. That's alright.
Run Lola Run was good. Anybody who's a fan of Time Loop movies should enjoy it.
I think I'm possibly suffering from high-expectations syndrome though. Not only were the RT critic/audience score 93 and 90 respectively, but my brother said at one point during the conversation that he thinks it was better than Groundhog Day.
Spoiler Alert: It is not better than Groundhog Day.
In fact, I put it at number 5 on a list of the top 5 Time Loop flicks I've seen:
1. Edge of Tomorrow
2. Groundhog Day
3. 12:01 PM (a dark half-hour made for Showtime mini-flick from the late 80's/early 90's)
4. ARQ
5. Run Lola Run
I'm still glad I saw it though. I love me a good Time Loop.
But damn dude... That girl could run. I got tired just watching her.
Delicatessen is up next...
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Watched Delicatessen. Loved it.
*POSSIBLY SOME MINOR SPOILERS*
It doesn't quite fit in my genre of films that take place in a single spot, but the majority of the movie takes place in a single high rise apartment complex and the sewers underneath.
The only "sci-fi" involved, at least that I noticed on a first viewing requiring me to read subtitles was that we're living in a post apocalyptic world seen through the lens of the people who still occupy the building.
I really like how they don't throw in any exposition to try to explain what happened like most Hollywood flicks would feel compelled to do. You don't need to know. Use your imagination to fill in the blanks.
It's got some of the goofiness and goofy character traits seen in CoLT (goofy to an American at least... Maybe the French actually acted like this in the late 90's/early 2000's?), and I think that's a good thing. I'm new to Dominique Pinion, but I like the dude. Even more in this movie than in CoLT.
I thought it was crazy that the butcher who ran the complex (Jean-Claude Dreyfus) looks like a spitting image of a childhood friend of mine, just fatter. I have to show him this flick and tell him he should find out if there is any shared genes there.
I think I'm going to put Amélie on the list. This whole French cinema thing is kind of growing on me. I'm hoping it's not just Marc Caro and Jean-Pierre Jeunet that I like and there's more hidden gems to find overseas.
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Have you seen Meet The Feebles? An early film from Peter Jackson. I know several people who claim this is their favorite film. I don't recall if there are live-action humans in the film.
Joe's Apartment was a lesser, later work, but somewhat similar in style.
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I've seen Joe's Apartment back when it was newish, but I don't remember much of it.
Haven't seen Meet the Feebles. I'll check it out.
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You've got to check out Nobody.
That's all I'm going to say about it.
Great flick.
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You've got to check out Nobody.
That's all I'm going to say about it.
Great flick.
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They can't all be winners...
I watched Meet the Feebles. It's is a serious contender for the worst film I've EVER seen in my life.
If it weren't for the "passage to India" joke that made me laugh out loud, I wouldn't have found a single second of the movie amusing.
Except for Arthur the worm, I hated every character. Even the ones you were supposed to care about.
The best part of the movie, SPOILER ALERT, is when almost every single one of them was murdered.
Fuck the Feebles.
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Quote:Yeah, nw I recall that it was a love it or hate it type flick - not much middle ground.
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They can't all be winners...
I watched Meet the Feebles. It's is a serious contender for the worst film I've EVER seen in my life.
If it weren't for the "passage to India" joke that made me laugh out loud, I wouldn't have found a single second of the movie amusing.
Except for Arthur the worm, I hated every character. Even the ones you were supposed to care about.
The best part of the movie, SPOILER ALERT, is when almost every single one of them was murdered.
Fuck the Feebles.
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Yeah. I don't know what it was dude. I liked the Muppets growing up, but not so much that I found this take on them offensive or anything. I'm definitely no puritan, so even though watching the movie makes you feel like you need to take a shower, that's not grounds for the hate. I like a lot of oddball stuff. This seems on the surface to be something that I would have really enjoyed.
I don't know why I hated it so much.
So you're in the "loved it" camp then?
If I had something nice to say about it, it would be the puppets were all made well and the puppetry was good work.
And somehow, I liked Arthur the worm.
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Having a hard time getting Amélie for some reason. I find this kind of strange since out of all of these French/German flicks I've been watching recently, Amélie was the only one I'd ever heard of before through other pop culture at the time. I specifically remember it being part of the plot in an episode of Home Movies in the early 2000s.
Got myself a list of so-called "Hidden Gem" 80's/90's low budget sci-fi on queue that I might start going through in the meantime.
The only one on that list I had seen was Crossworlds, and 20-something me enjoyed that flick. I'm not going into these expecting much, but they might be interesting.
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Have you seen Be Kind Rewind? Not the criteria for low-budget, but it has that vibe.
Wonderful cast. Funny scenes.
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Have you seen Be Kind Rewind? Not the criteria for low-budget, but it has that vibe.
Wonderful cast. Funny scenes.
I never even heard of it before, but I just looked it up.
That sounds up my ally. It's on the list. Thanks.
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Be Kind Rewind was a no effort get for me, and a nice way to wrap up the day.
It won't be going on any of my top lists or anything, and I could find a ton of criticisms of how it was done from the implausibility of how the tapes got erased in the first place to the fact that it was hinted there would be a happy ending to the story, but I won't do that since none of this movie was operating with any pretense of reality.
It was just a fun movie, and sometimes it's nice to just shut the brain off and just enjoy something for what it is. The actors made the characters really enjoyable to watch. When the credits start rolling, it makes you wish we lived in a world where that particular happy ending could actually take place.
Thanks for the recommendation.
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Quote:I really liked the cast.
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Be Kind Rewind was a no effort get for me, and a nice way to wrap up the day.
It won't be going on any of my top lists or anything, and I could find a ton of criticisms of how it was done from the implausibility of how the tapes got erased in the first place to the fact that it was hinted there would be a happy ending to the story, but I won't do that since none of this movie was operating with any pretense of reality.
It was just a fun movie, and sometimes it's nice to just shut the brain off and just enjoy something for what it is. The actors made the characters really enjoyable to watch. When the credits start rolling, it makes you wish we lived in a world where that particular happy ending could actually take place.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Have you seen Blindside? Did you recognize the Michael Oher actor?
I always like Melodie Diaz, everything I've seen her in.
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Blindside from 1987? I don't think so.
By the Michael Oher actor do you mean the one they all thought chose the Lion King?
I don't think I've seen Melonie Diaz in anything else.
Yeah. They were all good.
Interesting that Yasiin Bey doesn't go by Mos Def anymore. Or at least that's what his IMDB entry on BKR would lead you to believe. Never knew his real name before today.
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Quote:Blindside. With Sandra Bullock, Tim McGraw, Lily Collins, Ray McKinnon, Kim Dickens, Kathy Bates, based on a real story. It was a really good film, so you probably didn't see it.
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Blindside from 1987? I don't think so.
By the Michael Oher actor do you mean the one they all thought chose the Lion King?
I don't think I've seen Melonie Diaz in anything else.
Yeah. They were all good.
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Apparently IMDB hasn't seen it either.
Sounds like it's a football movie.
If there's one thing I enjoy less than Hollywood schlock, it's football. And that was true before SJWs ruined the sport.
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Apparently IMDB hasn't seen it either.
Sounds like it's a football movie.
If there's one thing I enjoy less than Hollywood schlock, it's football. And that was true before SJWs ruined the sport.
I guess there is a football backstory. In the background. Anything needed to know about football is explained in the film. There ius also some basketball played by some kids, like 1-on-1. Maybe baseball, too. And cheerleading - or at least cheerleaders, in practice as well as in uniform. Maybe other exercise activities.
A lot of the football people, players, coaches, parents, are shown to be dooofuses.
Quinton Aaron played Michael Oher. His only prior credit was Be Kind Rewind, the prior year.
I just realized you probably never saw The Waterboy, which also had Kathy Bates. Same for Happy Gilmore - with Bob Barker.
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The term "low budget" is sticking in my head. The term "good" - not so much.
If you thought Blair Witch Project was low budget, then maybe The Resort should be as well. The cinematography, sound, editing, transitions, and pace/feel is similar to BWP. I'm not sure if there was a script.
I would not claim it is good.
When the credits started to roll, I did not wait to see if there was a coda - which there probably was.
Still in cinema now.
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I just watched a Japanese cartoon from 2001 called Spirited Away today.
It's not an "Anime" flick. I like a few of those that I'd seen over the years, but it's not really my thing. This art style much more closely resembles Taro the Dragon Boy from 1979 than any Anime style.
I'd never even heard of this flick until a YT video about it came in my feed about a week ago and after only about one minute into it I stopped watching that video and decided I wanted to see the movie.
I loved it.
Apparently, others did as well. It's currently got an 8.3/10 on IMDB and it won an Oscar in 2003 for Best Animated Feature when it was dubbed and released in the US.
While not exactly fitting in the "Under 15 Million" parameters for "low budget" on a budget of $19 Million, especially not back in 2001 compared to today's dollars, it's still fairly low budget for an animated feature, when you consider that award winning movies like 2009's "Up" had a budget of $175 Million.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245429/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
I'm going to have to watch Taro the Dragon Boy again.
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Princess Mononoke might be another you might enjoy, it seems to have influences from Pagan Folklore Japan, the culture of North islands, Ainu and Jomon people, Emishi/Ainu people and Yamato I guess before Japaneseness was standardized into one modern 20th and 21st century Japan culture.
Yeah I respect the Japanese for their cartoons films made on their low budgets, they might not make stuff as big as Disney animation or Marvel and DC or the Pixar stuff but they do some pretty good hand drawn animation.
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Yeah. Thanks. I actually got that one and a few others who's names are escaping me on deck.
Mononoke is the only one I'd ever heard of before. When I get around to giving them a watch I'll let you know the names of the other ones and if they were good.
I agree about that style of artwork in the non-anime Japanese animation flicks. It's always held a special place for me since I saw Taro the Dragon Boy about a dozen times when I was a kid. Of course, I didn't have any context about the actual folklore back then and just thought they'd invented cool characters for a cartoon experience that was more "mature" than most of the things I'd been watching at that time (save for stuff like The Last Unicorn or The Littlest Mermaid... not to be confused at all with the Disney movie).
I'm actually kind of thrilled that there seems to be a pretty wide catalog of similar stuff out there from over the years, assuming I can get my hands on any of them.
BTW... the guy who made Spirited Away is the same guy who directed Princess Mononoke, isn't he?
I was kind of surprised I couldn't find any links, even in the artists category, between Spirited Away and Taro the Dragon Boy. They look so similar in art style. But I suppose that shouldn't surprise me too much since Anime is a thing and there had to have been one original cartoon that used that style of artwork long before it became the cultural phenomena that it has today.
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Rather than going to Mononoke straight away, I went for one that looked a lot more obscure and watched Howl's Moving Castle.
I didn't like it as much as Spirited Away, but it was still pretty good. I'm sure I would have loved it when I was a kid, and if you've got kids it's probably a lot better than a lot of the US cartoons they make these days. The art style was beautiful, as always... although this one seemed a bit closer to anime than to Taro/Spirited Away. I still wouldn't call it anime though.
I knew I recognized some of the voices, and was surprised when I saw that Christian Bale, Billy Crystal and Lauren Bacall were in the cast of the US dub. I feel like I should know who Emily Mortimer is, but nothing in her filmography is jumping out at me.
It looks like this one was nominated for an Oscar, and has 8/10 ratings on the big sites, just a tad behind Sprited Away. But it only grossed a little over $5 Million in the US and Canada, so it wouldn't surprise me if it weren't a household name despite the actors voicing it.
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I liked Princess Mononoke even less than Howl's Moving Castle.
Maybe I should switch directors. Someone who perhaps wasn't an Oscar's darling for so many years.
ETA: I should elaborate and say that it wasn't a bad movie. I enjoyed watching it, and the artwork was gorgeous as always when it comes to Studio Ghibli.
I just walked away not really caring much for the characters and at one point even had to fight off falling asleep in the last third of the movie. Where I was very invested in the story of the characters of Spirited Away and even in Howl's Moving Castle, I just didn't really care much about anybody in this movie. I think that's kind of a fatal flaw if you're putting out a movie that is over 2 hours long.
I think I'm going to go back and look at Hayao Miyazaki's earlier works. I'm particularly interested in The Castle of Cagliostro which came out in 1979, the same year as Taro the Dragon Boy. Though I was never a super-fan, I enjoyed watching Lupin the 3rd many, many years back when it was ran on Adult Swim's block along Cowboy Beebop.
I'll probably watch the movie and the entire run of that show next.
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Interesting... there seems to be quite a few Lupin the III movies out there. I'm not sure if they're just compilations of episodes of the TV show or not. I'm pretty sure without looking it up that they're not done by Studio Ghibli.
Looks like Cowboy Bebop had a movie too. Since they only had one season, I might rewatch that and see the movie as well.
ETA: A live action Cowboy Bebop?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop_(2021_TV_series)
I'll curb my enthusiasm for now, especially since I had always hoped they'd make more of the animation after I'd watched it.
Who knows though? If it's done right, it might be something that fans of Firefly could love. I'd certainly recommend OG Cowboy Bebop to anybody who loved Firefly.
You'll even get to relive the disappointment of a single season.
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It's easy to be critical when you have never directed a blockbuster or an arthouse film loved by all critics, and maybe you can truly criticize if you had done all this art film and global success without the backing of a huge studio, you made your story, drew it out, started filming and did it all on shoestring budgets
some like SKorean film
others enjoy French
some enjoy the Low Budget British scifi
a Dr Who spin off "Torchwood: Children of Earth"
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I liked Princess Mononoke even less than Howl's Moving Castle.
I understand why people don't like him, I think he's good but I don't obsess over his work. I look at Japan animation and Japanese film as a whole and I can take or leave Hayao Miyazaki
I guess the problem with some directors is they put themself into a typical stylized box they use the same animators, write similar stuff, same voices, same CGI fx, and they stop taking risks
However he is not as Lazy as michael bay explosions a guy who turned himself into a Walking BigBudget Hollyweirdo Meme
You could say no Alfred Hitchcock is not truly the same, Kubrick did a great job of writing new stuff, drawing out and planning new shots, tackling and making amazing movies in numerous different genres, Park Chan-wook has a different thing to show you in each movie, Ridley Scott does something new, Ang Lee will try different stuff and Chris Nolan make unique films and Guillermo del Toro does try some new but I guess there is a very 'del Toro' style about his subject matter and cinematic shots.
I find Hayao Miyazaki an odd one, I like his work but I don't love it or obsess over it and when you first watch his stuff you are kinda blown away but with artistic merit in the long run it stumbles, he repeats much like a Disney remake might repate. Or maybe he doesn't want to break new ground, maybe he's kinda a one trick pony, although his work and Japan animtion is unique in its own way maybe its animation is repating, his message I guese reminds me a little like Spielberg remaking his Spielbergy message stuff or Quentin Tarantino or James Cameron, sometimes you have a good director but because of his eye and style he keeps re-visiting the same visual style, the same buzz words and theme and message again and again. Anime and Manga is odd comapred to Hollywood and its hard sometimes for Hollywood to copy it as it doesn't really translate will into remakes for Western audiences. Paul W.S. Anderson is far less respected than Tarantino or Spielberg he is seen as a lazy hack who remakes remaking video games into movies. Anime and Manga are said to have good material, far more interesting than a video game. Sometimes people want an Anime to be made into a big hollywood movie but it doesnt happen, some are in development production remake limbo for decades before they decide to drop or green light or cancel a project, when Hollywood does finally really back a re-make of one it sometimes will have lost whatever Zen Neo-Tokyo message or lost the Japanese style it origianlly had.
Battle Royale is kind of interesting its the more modern Genre of Japanese film a lot more Dark, Nihilistic, Fatalist and Sadist than your usual Kurosawa Samuri film or Godzillia style monster movies, the Battle Royale inspired hunger Games and was made for as little as 4.5 million USD
https://battleroyale.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
It's a morbid apocalypse kind of world where 'the students have three days to kill each other until one survives--or they all die'
Takeshi 'beat' Kitano is in the films, he is everywhere in Japan, appears on tv as an expert in everything an actor, comedian, tv presenter, author, filmmaker
I guess it marked the new horror shock era of Japan films like the Ringu is a 1998 Japanese horror film
If you wanted to stay with animated art the classic Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo is a far more interesting movie.
If you could
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not tha t i agree with these types of lists...but anyways... here is a suggestion fo stuff to watch from those indie culture sites
'The 20 Highest Grossing Indies of 2020'
https://www.indiewire.com/feature/highest-grossing-indie-films-2020-12
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'10 New Indie Movies to Watch in 2020'
https://culturedvultures.com/new-indie-movies-2020/
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ETA: A live action Cowboy Bebop?
I expect Hollyweird and Netflix to do a typical shit job 2021– to cancelled early, I never watched the original but have seen the reviews and fan gif tribute animations and trailers.
Back in the early days of this board when this place had Andromeda fans, there were anime fans who said Joss ripped off Cowboy Bebop to make Firefly!!!
I might get around to watch the original before they destroy any more of the classics
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I was excited to see they made a Cowboy Bebop movie, but then I read it and it takes place in between a few episodes of the first and only season.
The ending was... weird.
But in retrospect, it might be the reason that I was left longing for more and I still remember it to this day.
If you watch it, you can come out thinking that it left on a Sara Connor Chronicles level cancellation, but having never looked into it, I wouldn't say that for sure. I could see this ending done intentionally.
I don't remember thinking of Cowboy Bebop at all when I watched Firefly, but I do recall discussions taking place where they said that Joss ripped it off. I didn't take any of those accusations seriously, but you certainly can find parallels between the two series.
I always thought that Joss was far more inspired by Eric Frank Russel's "The Great Explosion", and I always thought of Firefly as a look far into the future of that Universe, with "Legacy of Heorot" taking place some time in between them.
ETA: Come to think of it, Cowboy Bebop could be in that universe as well. It would probably have to be even further into the future than Firefly though since there is no America/China thing going on if memory serves. I'll have to watch it again.
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It's easy to be critical when you have never directed a blockbuster or an arthouse film loved by all critics, and maybe you can truly criticize if you had done all this art film and global success without the backing of a huge studio, you made your story, drew it out, started filming and did it all on shoestring budgets
Are you suggesting that you've never been critical of anything that you weren't a professional at?
If you are, than I am calling you a liar.
I didn't say the man's work was shit. I loved Spirited Away. The other two I've seen by him were gorgeous, but very much less stellar. What surprised me the most was that Princess Mononoke was the only one I'd heard of before when I thought that it was by far the least impressive of the three.
In the world we find ourselves in today, I would have assumed the reason for this was because the critics and oscar circles applauded Princess Mononoke for being so Stunning and Brave by having a powerful woman leading the flick, but this group of flicks totally turns that notion on its head.
Spirited Away had a CLEAR female lead, both in the roles of protagonist and antagonist. I found this to be the best of the bunch. Howl's Moving Castle could be argued to be a shared male/female role... The titular character was the male and the clear redemption arc, but the female lead was who you were to see through the eyes of.
Princess Mononoke, despite the title, had a clear male lead with the Princess playing supporting cast. The characters were not interesting... at all. It's probably still better than most of the Disney movies coming out since the turn of the century, but I can't see how anybody over 12 years old would really get anything out of it beyond appreciation of the great art style.
I'm still going to be looking into Miyazaki's stuff. But I'm dipping back into his older catalog before he became an Oscar favorite.
And trying to apply "Oscarism" to this situation might be a bit presumptive and unfair on my part. Maybe this is simply the case of a man getting old and losing his touch. It's not like that hasn't happened quite often in Hollywood.
I'm looking at YOU Spielberg.
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I expect Hollyweird and Netflix to do a typical shit job 2021– to cancelled early, I never watched the original but have seen the reviews and fan gif tribute animations and trailers.
Back in the early days of this board when this place had Andromeda fans, there were anime fans who said Joss ripped off Cowboy Bebop to make Firefly!!!
I might get around to watch the original before they destroy any more of the classics
If you're going to watch the 2021 version, I'd definitely watch the cartoon first.
You have every right to believe that they will fumble the shit out of this thing with that being the trend these days.
I'm hopeful that it will be written well though. We certainly have the special effects necessary to recreate the Universe of Cowboy Bebop today, assuming that they have a good enough budget to make it look the part. It will really kill the immersion if their sets are made of cardboard and the special effects look like the crap that the Sci-Fi channel churns out.
I watched the first two episodes yesterday. It's the first time since the early 2000's that I'd seen it, and the first time I'd seen it in HD on a flat screen. I watched them originally on a 27" CRT.
I was kind of blown away by the beauty of the art in Cowboy Bebop. I had no idea it looked that good from my time spent with it on that ancient TV. Of course they use a lot of still frames like many Japan artists do to save on animation budget, but that's part of the charm, IMO. But particularly the art used in space is gorgeous. There's no way that the 2021 live-action series is going to gain any traction if they don't do that justice with some Alita caliber special effects.
And it goes without saying hopefully they keep the woke shit out of it. It would be great if they left politics out of it all together.
One can dream, right?
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Usually the horror genre can be good for cheap indie stuff
A lot of you guys have probably already seen this movie but I have not
I'm going to give the 2018 horror film 'A Quiet Place' a go I hear good hype about it and watched trailers online, upstate New York filmed around NY's Lake Erie Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York on its western, southern, and New York's Lake Erie eastern shores, abandoned factories in NY, maybe shot near Lake Ontario.. so it is Indie and outside of Hollywood, I think it made a lot of money and has a cult following and seems to have instesting use of sounds, monsters or lack of sounds.
It porbably cost more than 10+ Million so I'm not sure if it fits in that "Under 15 Million" parameters...but it was Low Budget if I remember reading about it.
Even if its B-movie crap I will probably enjoy it for the effort they put in
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My tastes have changed extremely since I was a kid. Horror B flicks was almost exclusively what my friends, brothers and I watched growing up.
But today, getting me to watch a horror flick is an almost impossible task. The last actually good one I saw was The Ring, and the last one I found entertaining for the spectacle of it all and how much it made on peanuts was the original Paranormal Activity.
There's just so much garbage out there in that category. There always was, but I feel that back in the 70's to the mid 90's or so there was also a much different feel to the production of it all.
I'm sure there are a lot of factors at play (even acknowledging that a large factor is personal taste), but the genre has lost its charm.
With rare exception (like The Ring), we all know going into a horror flick that we're about to watch something that is going to be bad... but rather than derive pleasure out of the terribleness of the flick, I usually just walk away wishing I could have that 90 minutes back and do something else with the time.
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I really don't know if I, Tonya was a low budget or independent film, but I enjoyed it a lot. Margot Robbie was awesome in it, and her surrounding entourage of incredibly stupid people, makes it a memorable dark comedy. I also liked Black Klansman.
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Is that like Tonya Harding?
lol
That sounds hilariously awful.
I saw the prequel to Black Klansman...
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Usually the horror genre can be good for cheap indie stuff
A lot of you guys have probably already seen this movie but I have not
I'm going to give the 2018 horror film 'A Quiet Place' a go I hear good hype about it and watched trailers online, upstate New York filmed around NY's Lake Erie Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York on its western, southern, and New York's Lake Erie eastern shores, abandoned factories in NY, maybe shot near Lake Ontario.. so it is Indie and outside of Hollywood, I think it made a lot of money and has a cult following and seems to have instesting use of sounds, monsters or lack of sounds.
It porbably cost more than 10+ Million so I'm not sure if it fits in that "Under 15 Million" parameters...but it was Low Budget if I remember reading about it.
Even if its B-movie crap I will probably enjoy it for the effort they put in
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This is a forum where we discuss films in Cinema. (Except for 6ix, who discusses films he hasn't seen, won't see, has no intention of seeing)
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I discuss movies I've seen.
But yeah. There's a whole lot of them I won't waste my time seeing because I don't pay money to HollyWoke.
You should probably get a few hobbies dude. I'm sure your time could be better spent than watching rehashes that didn't need to be made.
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I'm getting back into the old school Documentary films, I had a lot recommended to me already, docu movies with low budgets, that way they can keep budgets 10+ Million-ish area. I do enjoy movies I might watch the crime coemdy drama 'Kajillionaire' and I enjoyed Army of the Dead but that's not small enough, in no way small to classify as 'Indie' its got a big massive sicifi horror fantasy budget for those fx shots, I'm probably going to be watching some Nature or Science documentary maybe real life stuff Allen v. Farrow about Woddy DaughterFucker Allen who hung out with Epstein, you have all that Nature BBC National Geographic David Attenborough stuff or music like 'Tina' documentary film that follows the life and career of musician Tina Turner or stuff like 'Framing Britney Spears' crime drama movies like Tiger King or Murder Among the Mormons, Escape from Mogadishu is a South Korea movie about ambassadors from both North and South Korea who are forced to team up in order to escape the Somali Civil War or you have the CIA drug one called Wormwood or the tv kids show producers 'Street Gang How We Got to Sesame Street'.
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I'm not huge into documentary stuff myself, but my old man (who doesn't believe he's ever seen any movie directed by Oliver Stone) is really excited about his new documentary series on JFK after seeing him on Krystal and Saagar.
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The rescue is worth a watch if you like a documentary, a dark event of kids trapped and teams trying to rescue with a happy rescue ending. I heard good things about South Korean film this year past and new movie summer season coming, if you like Documentary instead of movies there is National Geographic “The Rescue” docu movie and other type of Docu drama, a movie called Language Lessons an American drama film directed and co-written by Natalie Morales, CODA Child of Deaf Adults another getting buzz, Mekong Hotel Thailand, Drive My Car Japanese, German film. There are many oldies to watch, classic US fnatasy or horror, there is also an old 80s movie from Philippines about 3 families 'Oro, Plata, Mata' its about the invasion, Japanese occuption during WW2 and the shocking change in family life, Filipino seemed to have a cultural explosion of movies during the late 70s? 1980s it was kinda like HongKong culture was everywhere, the HongKong movie industry survived but in Philippines then it all died off, more recently there seems to be a bunch of cartoon anime tv animation stuff coming from S.Korea, South America and the Philippines, some are shorts but others are bigger productions, maybe US and European studios are funding stuff over there? Modern 'Pinoy' horror is perhaps becoming a thing with stuff like 'The Road' and 'Yanggaw' maybe taking a page from the Japan Ringu franchise. The second golden age of China cinema is said to have come with productions like Yellow Earth and Farewell My Concubine, there is a cultural disruption with the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989, the 5th generation films include people like Zhang Yimou, Chen Kaige, the post-1990 Chinese move on to other film styles like 'Black Coal Thin Ice' the movie A Land Imagined and Suzhou River...I watched this one its kinda sad and ‘Sixth Generation’ Chinese films are known for their documentary type feel and low cost production, movie So Long, My Son and movie Beijing Bicycle are also classed as 6th generation. While some Japanese films are known to be wacky, the Chinese are classed as more real and gritty, there is some debate as to what 6th generation film really is, some say its style is due to lack of financial support and the new post-1989 censorship policies.
Indie Animation might become a thing again, Ralph Bakshi involved in stuff like Fire and Ice, Fritz the Cat, the Wizards movie, the Japan styled Castlevania is a horror animation, so there might be horror animation series or movies coming from some studios. The movie Cool world had a Budget $28 million the Box office during its time but it only made $14.1 million so it was considered a flop, another animted turkey or box office bomb but I think there was something creative and risky about these types of movies like TheMask and Who Framed Roger Rabbit. French British animated The Illusionist by Sylvain Chomet is interesting, Song of the Sea by Tomm Moore, the Chinese Have A Nice Day by Liu Jian, Tito On Ice by Max Andersson and Helena Ahonen or King of Pigs by Yeon Sang-ho have a lot of hype behind their animation art syles. This new joint Japan US styled 'Castlevania' is a tv show and it seems to be a joint US Japan thing its not a movie but a TV Series, I think there might be other stuff coming from Japan maybe animated movies like StarWars Japan anime. Argentina film might be making a comeback with stuff like The Secret in Their Eyes, Heroic Losers and Argentina's The Distinguished Citizen, some Latin American actors and film makers also are doing productions with Spain or in other parts of Europe. Bornholmer Straße Open the Wall is said to be good and there's always Lola rennt (Run Lola Run) people might recognize Franka Potente from 'The Bourne' movie franchise. There is some hype about an upcoming The Northman is an upcoming American epic historical film directed by Robert Eggers with singer Björk, and Willem Dafoe appear in supporting roles. There is also Deadwood The Movie a 2019 American Western televisio
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Death Note 2006 film is also pretty enjoyable it is based on weird Japanese comicbook cartoon animtion.
Most Japan films are low budget but I don't know if they were able to cap it at the budget of $15 Million.
Netflix did their own Hollywood style Death Note loosely adapted from the Japanese manga and movie but it was trashed by fans of the original, the crappy Netflix remake cost $40 million, the retards also used real footage of a 2010 train collision in Buizingen, Belgium in which 19 people died as part of the film.
Budget $5 million Best of the Best 1989
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Quote:Well, this does sound more interesting.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not huge into documentary stuff myself, but my old man (who doesn't believe he's ever seen any movie directed by Oliver Stone) is really excited about his new documentary series on JFK after seeing him on Krystal and Saagar.
And it made almost $1,100.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11173544/
I was just told that it was only released through Showtime, not in Cinema.
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People want indie but I think a lot of Indie film is still not moving because you have major States like California and NewYork still under lockdown
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Covid Movie Death?
If States opened up would small American films or Japanese film or S.Korean or Indie American films or stuff from Europe or South America make money at the box office “The Cow Who Sang Into the Future”. Spider-Man No Way Home a big block buster is the only thing making money while everything flops? Waiting for Bojangles I was expecting an indie US tap dancing movie with that title, instead it seems to be a weird Tango Family Drama French film, Jujutsu Kaisen a Japan animation is making tens of millions or maybe “Hatching” is indie. In Russia Last Warrior: A Messenger of Darkness January 2022, the film became one of the highest-grossing local-language release of all time in Russia, normally Hollywood sells big in Russia but now anymore, they have their own film surpassing a previous movie called The Last Warrior with a take of 1.88 billion rubles or making $25.5 million ish ... will it be indie or blockbuster that survive the Post Corona Hollyweird Apocalypse??
With Covid lockdowns and Woke SJW Antifa cancel culture arriving before Corona... do people now have to move to Texas or Florida to get the indie films released at the box office?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not huge into documentary stuff myself, but my old man (who doesn't believe he's ever seen any movie directed by Oliver Stone) is really excited about his new documentary series on JFK after seeing him on Krystal and Saagar.
And it made almost $1,100.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11173544/
I was just told that it was only released through Showtime, not in Cinema.
Yeah. My old man says the Showtime exclusive is for something like 3 months and is an abridged version of it. I think it's 2 hours long, but the full one that will be available after the exclusivity deal with Showtime is done is actually 4 hours.
Knowing Oliver Stone, you might want to wait for that version to drop.
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Probably going to continue watching some overseas stuff, I'm not sure how South Korea keeps their budgets in check, The Pirates The Last Royal Treasure is a new film and 'Special Delivery ' in the USA there is a lot of indie horro stuff coming, “The Black Phone” seems to be this weird horror movie, the trailer looks very creepy about a killer who kidnaps children and the Mask he wears looks like a cross between a demon from Hell and Jeffry Epstein
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So many classics cane be named
The Man Who Fell to Earth, Halloween, Godzillia, Mad Max, Rocky, El Mariachi, the Ringu franchise, the Spanish Horror [ Rec ] , A Boy And His Dog, the HongKong Kungfu Jackie Chan genre, The Breakfast Club, Eraserhead.
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Promo Trailer for Korean Action Thriller 'Hunt' Made by Lee Jung-jae
https://www.firstshowing.net/2022/promo-trailer-for-korean-action-thri
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I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore?
low budget 2017
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/i-dont-feel-at-home-in-this-world-any
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The 5 Highly Anticipated Korean Films Going to Cannes Film Festival 2022
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Locke [2013] (Tom Hardy)
He can be a very good actor.
Perhaps smaller can be better, Locke is a good movie, Child 44 a lost opportunity however 'Capone' with its small budget was not received well. I didn't care so much for the Venom Blockbuster stuff.
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Some hype about
'Phoenix Rising' documentary by Amy Berg is a detailed exposé of the abuse that actor Evan Rachel Wood is alleged to have suffered at Goth weirdo artist Marilyn Manson.
A world music film 'The Disciple' sound and tonal scales and melancholic rhythms on par set against Mumbai’s bustling cityscape
A movie about 'Strawberry Mansion' neighborhood in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania aka Summerville, had many wealthiest residents, came to have a high Jewish population, but the 1950s and 1960s brought an economic decline and urban decay.
'We’re All Going to the World’s Fair' coming of age horror weird drama, teenage Casey alone in her attic bedroom, scrolling the internet under the glow-in-the-dark stars.
Weird toon 'Cryptozoo' American adult animated drama film written
'Vivarium' house-hunting couple end up in a TwilightZone nightmare plays out like an episode of Black Mirror.
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Did Evan Rachel Wood hook up with Marylin Manson or something?
If so, are we supposed to feel sorry for her if something bad happened to her during that particular relationship after seeing this movie?
I for one won't feel sorry for anybody who was abused by Marilyn Manson in a relationship, regardless of what genitalia they're packing under their undies.
Did you not have MTV in your house Mrs. Wood?
Hard pass.
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Locke [2013] (Tom Hardy)
He can be a very good actor.
Perhaps smaller can be better, Locke is a good movie, Child 44 a lost opportunity however 'Capone' with its small budget was not received well. I didn't care so much for the Venom Blockbuster stuff.
I liked Venom. Probably more than I should have, and probably because Hardy was the star and I thought so highly of Locke.
I didn't care much for the sequel, but it was one of the rare times I've been in a theater in the last 10 years and it was with my brother and dad, so we had a good time. Only $5 per ticket there too, so I feel it was worth $5 for the experience.
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Seems he's going to do more Venom and Madmax but that's for another discussion outside the Indie film thread
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Have you seen him in anything else that was good? I only know him from Locke and Venom now. I'd like to see more of his range. He's obviously got a pretty wide one.
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I enjoyed watching some of the TV series Taboo, I might return to finish it. I think Covid put it on hold and it might return in 2023.
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Good luck.
One of the few deaths that Covid actually did cause was Amazon Prime's Utopia.
RIP, awesome TV show.
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The 50 Best Indie Horror Movies to Stream Right Now, from ‘X’ to ‘Fresh’
https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/best-indie-horror-movies-streaming/
How the low-budget indie film ‘Minari’ became a stand-out Oscars contender
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I finally got around to watching the one other movie that made the top lists for last year that I wanted to see.
Everything Everywhere All At Once.
I had a LOT of fun watching that one. Very pleasantly surprised here, and I'm glad I went into it knowing nothing.
I think it possibly went a little too "silly" for my tastes and I think the third act suffered from that, somewhat to the same degree that I feel the third act faltered in Free Guy, but we don't always need things to be serious.
I was left wondering what that movie would have been like had they gone totally somber and straight with it. The first act had me thinking it was going to be a much different movie than it turned out being.
In any event, I give it at least an 8 out of 10. Maybe a 9 if I'm being generous. I can't imagine somebody watching it and not liking it.
ETA: I was very glad they did it in English. I also didn't know that was the case going into it and I'm glad that after the first few minutes they dropped the subtitles and you weren't forced to read them the entire movie.
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Not that I give a single shit about the Oscars... In fact, if I didn't hear about it on the radio while working the other day I wouldn't have even known they were happening... But I wanted to post this because I thought it was very strange that a good movie that I actually thoroughly enjoyed won so many awards.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oscars-2023-everything-everywhere-all-at-
once-most-awards/
They inject a bit of woke in the article itself, but didn't go too overboard with it.
Here's hoping that everybody involved with the movie is as good in real life as they were acting in that movie, because even though I don't watch much new stuff these days I feel they probably all deserved the wins.
I don't give two shits that Michelle Yeoh was the first Asian woman to win best actress or the first non-white women to win it in 20 years. I'm just glad that she won it. And seeing Ke Huy Quan on screen again after all these years and topping it off with a Best Supporting Actor at 51 years old is awesome too. I'm even glad that Jamie Lee Curtis finally won an Oscar after all these years even if she's proven to be kind of a virtue signalling jerkoff in real life on Twitter.
If you haven't seen this movie yet, you should.
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Low Budget
They now make film with AI
'Last Stand' is a sci-fi short film
https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1642138321454243840
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Inside (2023): Starring Willem Dafoe
I'm just shy of saying that I loved this movie. I think it was maybe 20 minutes longer than it should have been and dragged a little at times.
This fits in well with one of my favorite genres of movies which I've never actually heard a name for so I'll call them "Diorama Movies". Movies where a large part or the entire thing is filmed in one location. Not necessarily a claustrophobic location, but they usually are. Phone Booth is an example of one that is not claustrophobic since even though the protagonist is held hostage in the booth it's in the middle of New York City (while ironically filmed in LA, but whatever). Locke is another movie that isn't claustrophobic since he's in a car the whole movie but he's not trapped inside of it and could have gotten out any time he wanted to. But others like Devil (trapped in an elevator with... something) and Circle (trapped in what ultimately ended up being a space ship manned by hostile alien life) are.
Not many actors could have pulled a movie like this off. Willem Dafoe certainly isn't the only one who could have, but he was excellent in this and it's one of my favorite roles he's ever played. Tom Hanks could have done it, and really... he already has done it in Cast Away.
This one isn't going to be making my top 10 list of all time or anything, but it might have if they did a better job editing and trimming it down. I think there were just too many scenes that showed the same thing over and over that could have been cut out without sacrificing letting you know how futile the situation was, and there were other weird things going on in his brain that just didn't really need to be there because unless I missed something on my first watch they just really didn't add anything to the story.
I'll watch it again some time.
I can't recommend it to everybody. I don't think it would play well at all with a mainstream audience.
But if you love indie flicks, especially the ones that artsy-fartsy people would talk about at some expensive dinner party, give this one a watch.
7.5/10
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Martin Scorsese calls for “really independent films” to be shown in cinemas
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I saw Color Out of Space with my dad the other day. We're both huge Nicholas Cage fans.
We're also both huge sci-fi fans. I forgot that it was H.P. Lovecraft though, and my dad's only exposure to Lovecraft was his writing, which I fully agree was an awful read. Once I remembered that it was Lovecraft after somebody was wearing a Miskatonic University t-shirt very early on, I kind of regretted the decision to make that the movie we were watching for the day.
I wasn't wrong in worrying.
It was OK. Almost all of the movies made from Lovecraft stories are OK. None of them are actually GOOD. I was really hoping that this one would be the exception, but it wasn't. Nic Cage did not disappoint, and did his crazy Nic Cage stuff in the back half of the movie, but it's still a Lovecraft movie. This one is better than almost all other Lovecraft movies, but it's still just OK.
I don't understand what it is about Lovecraft that Hollywood can NEVER get right. Even some Steven King adaptations were pretty excellent even though some of them were downright terrible and most of them were OK.
I love Lovecraft's Lore, and I love stories that OTHER writers have made that were influenced by him. Video game adaptations of his stories have been surprisingly good compared to the movies. And interestingly enough, I think that's because actually LIVING in a Lovecraft story makes for a MUCH BETTER Lovecraft experience than watching somebody else living in it.
The movie In The Mouth of Madness, which was heavily inspired by Lovecraft is in my top 10 of all time. Event Horizon was better than OK, although it gets far too gory and dark for my tastes in the 3rd act (and legend has it that it was SERIOUSLY toned down before it went to theaters and some of the scenes left on the cutting room floor would have had you vomiting in your seat at the theater).
Color Out of Space is a BEAUTIFULLY filmed movie. Cinematographer Steve Annis was worth every penny they spent on him. Special Effects on a movie that only had a budget of $6 to $12 million were surprisingly acceptable too.
Some of the events that happened were so absurd, particularly because of the reactions of the characters to the insanity unfolding around them. We got some great laughs out of the last 30 minutes of the flick, which made up for how otherwise OK the whole thing ended up being. Once we stopped taking the movie seriously at all it felt like we were the guys on Red Letter Media (YouTube) just cracking jokes at all the dumb shit we were seeing happen on screen.
The end of the movie just totally sucked. My old man said "Where's the payoff"?
Well... There wasn't any.
It was a 2 hour movie without any point or purpose.
I never read the short story "The Colour Out of Space" it was based off of because, as I said before, anything written by Lovecraft is a freakin' terrible and unenjoyable read, but I can't imagine at all that this was how he ended his own story. It certainly was not his style.
Would I recommend it to anyone? Only to people who like Lovecraft and/or Nicolas Cage being Nicolas Cage and/or people who get together regularly to enjoy Bad Movie Night.
Critics and Audiences seem to have enjoyed it though, which is truly a rare occurrence in the 2020's. Although that may be attributable to there only being around 50 audience reviews compared to 210 critic reviews. Critics gave it 86% while the Audience gave it an 82% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think it got the reviews that it deserved from anyone.
6.0/10
EXTERNAL REVIEW UPDATE: Yeah. I just checked on IMDB and with a much more substantial voting pool of 51,305 people, it gets a 6.2 out of 10.
That review aggregate is much more based in reality.
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I like some Lovecraft stuff but I was young when I first looked at Lovecraft and the English felt too difficult or old when I was a kid. Speaking of Lovecraftian, yup the movie In Mouth of Madness entertains, which was heavily inspired by Lovecraft...It's hard to enjoy some adult books when you are very youngt, I tried reading Lovecraft long long ago, I remember they crash the boat into a tentacle monster...but I found the book very difficult, like trying to read Dickens, Kill a Mockingbird, Pride and Prejudice, or Shakespeare for school, I would probably enjoy it a lot more today.
Maybe themes of Lovecraft are also in Beyond the Black Rainbow, The Endless 2017
Spring 2014? Masking Threshold, Venus 2022, Mandy 2018, also there is The Cabin in the Woods and Underwater Kristen Stewart, Vincent Cassel, ....although I think this is a big Hollywood budget
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hinking that to have a loose criteria for low budget, we should cap it at $15 Million. That just happens to be exactly what the budget was for Ace Ventura.
I'm not sure about adjusted for inflation but
The Thing an 1982 American science fiction horror remake film directed by John Carpenter had a Budget of $15 million
I am now watching 'Warhammer' toons, audio, computer animation and fan made film
Even though it is indie and fan made
the company is probably worth Billions so I might be reluctant to call it all 'Low Budget' but it does have an indie element to its product.
However their fandom has made some entertaining stuff very cheap and do far better than Hollywood.
Worse than Fallout mankind did not just Nuke Itself on Earth, they nuked and Laid Waste to the Whole Galaxy and while Traveling Trhough these Holes or Tears in Space and these Scifi Demons got Released?
I guess you could call some of these Warhammer fan clips 'Film shorts' the Grim Dark Scifi, Lovecraftian horror, used interchangeably with "cosmic horror" is selling once again.
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I like some Lovecraft stuff but I was young when I first looked at Lovecraft and the English felt too difficult or old when I was a kid.
You could try it again now man, but it's bad reading at any age. I wasn't introduced to Lovecraft until I was in my early 20's when I was an avid reader and it was miserable. It's worse than reading Tolkien and almost as bad as trying to read the Bible.
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Speaking of Lovecraftian, yup the movie In Mouth of Madness entertains, which was heavily inspired by Lovecraft...
Great flick in my book. Makes you wonder why they can do "Lovecraft Inspired" right in the movies, but nobody can seem to get Lovecraft himself done.
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It's hard to enjoy some adult books when you are very youngt, I tried reading Lovecraft long long ago, I remember they crash the boat into a tentacle monster...but I found the book very difficult, like trying to read Dickens, Kill a Mockingbird, Pride and Prejudice, or Shakespeare for school, I would probably enjoy it a lot more today.
I liked To Kill a Mockingbird in school. I even liked Great Expectations. Shakespeare sucks, IMO. I can't imagine I'd really get into it today either.
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Maybe themes of Lovecraft are also in Beyond the Black Rainbow, The Endless 2017
Spring 2014? Masking Threshold, Venus 2022, Mandy 2018, also there is The Cabin in the Woods and Underwater Kristen Stewart, Vincent Cassel, ....although I think this is a big Hollywood budget
I've never seen any of those, except for Cabin in the Woods. That one was certainly Lovecraftian. I loved that movie because they ended it right. If there was a "Hollywood" ending for the two who made it to the end (or the entire world for that matter) I wouldn't have rated it so high on my personal list... something that the makers of Color out of Space either didn't get, or maybe Lovecraft himself actually made a happy ending in one of his stories... which I seriously doubt since he hated humanity.
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hinking that to have a loose criteria for low budget, we should cap it at $15 Million. That just happens to be exactly what the budget was for Ace Ventura.
I'm not sure about adjusted for inflation but
The Thing an 1982 American science fiction horror remake film directed by John Carpenter had a Budget of $15 million
Another movie in my top 5. Saw it with my old man when I was like 6 years old. Didn't see it again until they made The Thing video game for the XBox and Sci-Fi ran the entire movie without any commercials because Microsoft paid for the advertising of the game. I couldn't believe how well those special effects held up after all those years. Practical Effects done right are amazing. I mean, go back and look at The Matrix now and those at-the-time mind-blowing special effects seem almost laughable today, don't they?
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I am now watching 'Warhammer' toons, audio, computer animation and fan made film
Even though it is indie and fan made
the company is probably worth Billions so I might be reluctant to call it all 'Low Budget' but it does have an indie element to its product.
However their fandom has made some entertaining stuff very cheap and do far better than Hollywood.
Worse than Fallout mankind did not just Nuke Itself on Earth, they nuked and Laid Waste to the Whole Galaxy and while Traveling Trhough these Holes or Tears in Space and these Scifi Demons got Released?
I guess you could call some of these Warhammer fan clips 'Film shorts' the Grim Dark Scifi, Lovecraftian horror, used interchangeably with "cosmic horror" is selling once again.
I'm not familiar at all with the Warhammer universe. You enjoying it?
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If they allow film makers and writers to make Good Low Budget films maybe it all wont stink and suck
When people made a movie Screamers 1995 film with no forced weird messages
Budget $14 million
Thriller?
An article from 2020
10 Low Budget Thrillers That Are Better Than Blockbusters
https://screenrant.com/low-budget-thrillers-better-than-blockbusters/#
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Pooka!
Evil Dead
The Invitation
Calibre
The Witch
Creep
Following
Blair Witch
Night of the Living Dead
However I disagree with Blair Witch
I thought it was a very boring movie
and then Suddenly the sexuality of Hollyweird got even more weird
Why Sex Scenes are Now Cringe
https://thecarousel.substack.com/p/why-sex-scenes-are-now-cringe
Hollywood's Cult of Safetyism
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Behold the Hollywood Development Executive.
Blonde bob, stringy like a mop. Cat-like, curled up in the corner of the coffee shop draped in a broad grey scarf. The $300 Screen Safe™ coating on her horn-rimmed glasses bounces an indigo sheen off her brand new Macbook Pro. She looks weathered, but she always has. Even in college she looked this way. Popular. In control. But always aloof. Never totally there—like an adult playing at youth. Now, two decades later, her features relax in a perma-pout. She blinks vacantly at a screen full of faces. She clicks off mute.
“That sounds disturbing,” she says, pointedly. “We need more research.”
This woman is now in charge of what we used to call Hollywood. And it is through her eyes that we view on-screen sex.
I’ve heard that Jacob Elordi is unhappy with the underwhelming size of this penile prosthetic on the set of Euphoria. He reportedly throws fits about it.
Now that Hollywood has placed itself in charge of ensuring that the universal scales tip towards justice, every on-screen boob must be balanced with an on-screen dick. So penile prostheses have become another closed set standby alongside intimacy coordinators (who make sure no one feels “unsafe”) and modesty pouches (AKA cock socks).
Most of the fake dicks are made by one guy in the Valley, although their size and shape is determined by the makeup designer. On Euphoria, the same woman, Donni Davi, determines the length of both the eyelashes and the schlongs.
Usually you need to go to psychological drama or horror for Low Budget
or maybe Comedy can keep it Low Budget?
https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/good-burger-2-kenan-kel-works-offi
cial-paramount
You could spend days watching genres like Mel Brooks or Blaxploitation or Asian Action
Hong Kong was famous for its Low Budget entertainment Action and KungFu flicks
'John Wick'?
Box Office, Wins Over Fans with Outstanding 95% RT Score
https://www.westernjournal.com/john-wick-crushes-woke-competitor-box-o
ffice-wins-fans-outstanding-95-rt-score/
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I'm not familiar at all with the Warhammer universe. You enjoying it?
I don't know if I am enjoying it, some of it might be too miserable, bleak, dystopia, grim, dark and warlike to enjoy
yet it often says something
but I feel certain things in Warhammer might be Low Budget, especially fan made clips
What I respect is the huge work load of material, art and writing and There is A LOT of material in War Hammer
I knew it had stories, I knew about models, was video games, I heard maybe of a movie or cartoon and knew it had more than a single board game but I did not realize how big the Universe of Warhammer 40,000 was and A lot of Game Monster Fantasy Space stories seem to have ripped off Warhanmmer, many have been 'inspired'...you have games and products like Halo, Starcraft, Warcraft the game that South Park mocked, Prodeus, Sins of a Solar Empire, Resistance 3, Red Faction, Splitgate, Titanfall 2, StarFront, Destiny 2, Crysis Trilogy even Gears Of War Series and even Fallout ...they have borrowed or been inspired by Warhammer elements.
While that said
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Artificial Bots making movies, Awarded Oscars, International Hits, Profits vs Budget and The Horror Genre
ChatGPT WRITES & DIRECTS THE FIRST AI FILM IN 7 DAYS
Microbudget Horror Movies You Have To See
https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2023/05/microbudget-horror-movies-you-h
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Could AI pen 'Casablanca'? Screenwriters take aim at ChatGPT
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2023/05/05/writers-strike-ai
20 Most Profitable Movies Of All Time Compared To Budget
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/20-most-profitable-movies-time-13261
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8. Facing The Giants (2006)
Profit: $38,551,255 Budget: $100,000
7. Open Water (2003)
Profit: $55,500,000 Budget: $120,000
6. Mad Max (1979)
Profit: 99,750,000 Budget: $200,000
5. Eraser head (1977)
Profit: $7,000,000
Budget: $10,000
In 1977, David Lynch’s surreal horror movie, Eraser Head, budgeted at $10,000, was released. In a desolate, industrialized metropolis, the movie follows Henry Spencer as he tries to raise his disfigured child. The picture, which was shot in black and white, has become a cult favorite in the horror genre, earning a profit of $7,000,000, due to its eerie visuals and sound effects. Eraser head has influenced generations of filmmakers with its distinctive vision and style. It is a strong investigation of issues like identity, motherhood, and the human condition.
4. Deep Throat (1972)
Profit: $22,528,467
Budget: $25,000
Deep Throat is a 1972 pornographic film, directed by Gerard Damiano and starring Linda Lovelace. Due to its explicit sexual material, the movie caused controversy. It later became a cultural phenomenon and generated a discussion about censorship and obscenity laws across the country. The film also had a significant impact on the feminist movement, since Lovelace started speaking out against her involvement in the movie and became an outspoken critic of the pornographic industry. Deep Throat is still an important movie in the history of pornography and popular culture, despite its contentious past.
3. The Blair Witch Project (1999)
Profit: $248,600,000
Budget: $60,000
The Blair Witch Project is a 1999 horror film, directed by Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sánchez. The film follows a group of documentary filmmakers who become lost in the woods while investigating a local legend about a witch. The movie’s found footage style, improvised acting, and marketing campaign which presented it as a true story, contributed to its massive commercial success and critical acclaim, leading it to earn a profit of $248,600,000. The Blair Witch Project has since become a landmark of the found footage genre, and a classic of horror cinema.
2. Tarnation (2003)
Profit: $1,200,000
Budget: $218.32
With a focus on the filmmaker’s own experiences growing up with a mentally ill mother, Tarnation is a highly personal documentary, made on a budget of $218.32. The movie, which was directed by Jonathan Caouette, takes a frank and uncompromising look at the difficulties associated with family, mental health, and identity.
Aside from home movies and other archival material, the whole movie is made up of footage that Caouette himself recorded over 19 years. The film continues to be a milestone of American independent cinema, with a grossing of $1,200,00, and has received widespread praise for its creative approach to documentary storytelling.
1. Paranormal Activity (2007)
Profit: $193,400,000
Budget: $15,000
The horror movie Paranormal Activity was produced and helmed by Oren Peli in 2007. The movie centers on Katie and Micah, a young couple who live in a house that is cursed by an evil spirit. A terrifying atmosphere was produced by the movie’s found video format, usage of night vision c
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The process of making Flicks
3 Budget Levels
Costs to Make an Indie
Keep the price low with overall Costs with actors, directors, script, writers, market producers, production crew, equipment, material, location, editing and visual effects, insurance and distribution
and general website blogs
https://philipbloom.net/blog/
https://www.cined.com/
https://www.filmmakingstuff.com/
https://www.criterion.com/
https://jonnyelwyn.co.uk/
https://blog.frame.io/
https://prolost.com/
https://www.filmschool.org/
https://www.learnaboutfilm.com/
https://www.rocketstock.com/blog/
https://johnaugust.com/
https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/
https://filmcourage.com/blog/
https://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/
https://www.filmmakersacademy.com/
https://screencraft.org/screenwriting/
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I would have liked Screamers if they didn't give it the "Hollywood Ending Treatment".
It was based off of Philip K. Dick's AMAZING story Second Variety. I feel they did a good job for most of the movie based off of the low budget, but they screwed it all up and gave it a happy ending.
The end of Second Variety was DARK.
There was no budgetary reason for them to change this. It wouldn't have broken the bank to keep the story as it was written, nor would it have required some big special effects at the end. Just a simple conversation at the very end, and the realization from our hero how he just got tricked and about what he just unknowingly did to the people he was trying to save, and that there was no way for him to fix it as he was breathing his final breaths.
Long story short, Hollywood ALWAYS screwed up almost everything it touches. Even before they ruined everything that was once good with "The Message", they just changed things that shouldn't have ever been changed.
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‘Sound of Freedom’ outperforms ‘Indiana Jones’ and ‘The Flash’ on 4th of July
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sound-freedom-outperforms-indiana-
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That Indiana Jones remake might also be defeated by Insidious The Red Door a Low-ish Budget supernatural horror film
a budget of $15-16 Million so it seems it has already broke even with its opening
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That Indiana Jones remake might also be defeated by Insidious The Red Door a Low-ish Budget supernatural horror film
a budget of $15-16 Million so it seems it has already broke even with its opening
Remake? It wasn't a remake.
Yeah. I posted about Insidious beating it in the Indy 5 thread:
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Inexplicably, they're going to keep Indy 5 in 4,600 theaters for its second week.
Also, Bruce says that Insidious: The Red Door is going to take #1 this weekend.
His model has Sound of Freedom getting a 4th place showing, but he thinks it will take 3rd place behind Indy 5.
Though I'd love to see Sound of Freedom beat it this weekend, I will be happy seeing any movie take 1st place from Indy 5 this weekend, and hopefully into next week until Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One comes out early on the 12th. It would be hilarious watching an Indiana Jones movie with a $300 Million budget only have claim to 6 days at 1st place once the next Mission Impossible comes out.
He messed up Joy Ride. That took 5th place behind Elemental.
Good call in Insidious though. It almost made more last night than Indy 5, Sound of Freedom and Elemental combined.
I'm loving the fact that the $300 Million budget Indy 5 is going to go down in history as only being in 1st place in the theaters for 6 days total.
Those 4,600 theaters must have looked pretty empty last night.
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Quote:Red Door fudged the numbers. They take credit for $5M of preview sales (likely midnight Thursday) on Thursday, but then also include those same $5M again on Friday - double counting. Red Door made about $10M on both Friday and Saturday.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
That Indiana Jones remake might also be defeated by Insidious The Red Door a Low-ish Budget supernatural horror film
a budget of $15-16 Million so it seems it has already broke even with its opening
Remake? It wasn't a remake.
Yeah. I posted about Insidious beating it in the Indy 5 thread:Quote:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Inexplicably, they're going to keep Indy 5 in 4,600 theaters for its second week.
Also, Bruce says that Insidious: The Red Door is going to take #1 this weekend.
His model has Sound of Freedom getting a 4th place showing, but he thinks it will take 3rd place behind Indy 5.
Though I'd love to see Sound of Freedom beat it this weekend, I will be happy seeing any movie take 1st place from Indy 5 this weekend, and hopefully into next week until Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One comes out early on the 12th. It would be hilarious watching an Indiana Jones movie with a $300 Million budget only have claim to 6 days at 1st place once the next Mission Impossible comes out.
He messed up Joy Ride. That took 5th place behind Elemental.
Good call in Insidious though. It almost made more last night than Indy 5, Sound of Freedom and Elemental combined.
I'm loving the fact that the $300 Million budget Indy 5 is going to go down in history as only being in 1st place in the theaters for 6 days total.
Those 4,600 theaters must have looked pretty empty last night.
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Red Door fudged the numbers. They take credit for $5M of preview sales (likely midnight Thursday) on Thursday, but then also include those same $5M again on Friday - double counting. Red Door made about $10M on both Friday and Saturday.
Do you have proof of this? I don't see anything on The Numbers mentioning it, and if Bruce is adding $5M to Friday and double counting, that's the first I've ever seen him do so. Either that, or he always counts the preview numbers in the first Friday's numbers for every movie that comes out on a Friday and SoF just didn't have a benefit of having a "preview Monday" because they decided to release it on a Tuesday instead of a Friday. And if that's the case, it's not shady accounting... it's just how the accounting is always done, which in this unique case is a shame.
If that is how Bruce calculates Opening Friday, I'd like to know that with something showing that it is the case. It will be something I'd never considered and wasn't aware of before.
It definitely would explain why he never counts Thursday Preview money in with the total money earned. I always wondered why preview money wasn't counted in the Domestic Box Office totals.
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Quote:Alright. I said "Double counted" and maybe that was imprecise.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Do you have proof of this? I don't see anything on The Numbers mentioning it, and if Bruce is adding $5M to Friday and double counting, that's the first I've ever seen him do so. Either that, or he always counts the preview numbers in the first Friday's numbers for every movie that comes out on a Friday and SoF just didn't have a benefit of having a "preview Monday" because they decided to release it on a Tuesday instead of a Friday. And if that's the case, it's not shady accounting... it's just how the accounting is always done, which in this unique case is a shame.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Red Door fudged the numbers. They take credit for $5M of preview sales (likely midnight Thursday) on Thursday, but then also include those same $5M again on Friday - double counting. Red Door made about $10M on both Friday and Saturday.
If that is how Bruce calculates Opening Friday, I'd like to know that with something showing that it is the case. It will be something I'd never considered and wasn't aware of before.
It definitely would explain why he never counts Thursday Preview money in with the total money earned. I always wondered why preview money wasn't counted in the Domestic Box Office totals.
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I meant that they counted the same money on Thursday that they also counted again on Friday, but they didn't add the Thursday onto the total twice. Hope that makes sense.
On Thursday, The Numbers wants to give it headlines for the dollars for the Midnight showings. The midnight showings are technically Friday showings, because the films are embargoed until the Friday dates. That is exactly the reason for having Midnight Showings for opening shows. When the show time is 12:01 AM, then the dollars are likely handed to the Box Office on Thursday, before midnight.
On Friday, The Numbers only shows $15M for Friday, with a grand total of $15M. Which means the $5M posted as Thursday was just rolled into Friday's figure, and actual Friday only had $10M - about the same as on Saturday.
I saw no rationalizations written on the site about it, but the NUMBERS don't lie, just The Numbers - haha.
Hope that explains. I was not trying to be obtuse or deceptive. I had thought you already knew this from the posted data. You seem to follow the site a while, I haven't much.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Alright. I said "Double counted" and maybe that was imprecise.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Do you have proof of this? I don't see anything on The Numbers mentioning it, and if Bruce is adding $5M to Friday and double counting, that's the first I've ever seen him do so. Either that, or he always counts the preview numbers in the first Friday's numbers for every movie that comes out on a Friday and SoF just didn't have a benefit of having a "preview Monday" because they decided to release it on a Tuesday instead of a Friday. And if that's the case, it's not shady accounting... it's just how the accounting is always done, which in this unique case is a shame.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Red Door fudged the numbers. They take credit for $5M of preview sales (likely midnight Thursday) on Thursday, but then also include those same $5M again on Friday - double counting. Red Door made about $10M on both Friday and Saturday.
If that is how Bruce calculates Opening Friday, I'd like to know that with something showing that it is the case. It will be something I'd never considered and wasn't aware of before.
It definitely would explain why he never counts Thursday Preview money in with the total money earned. I always wondered why preview money wasn't counted in the Domestic Box Office totals.
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I meant that they counted the same money on Thursday that they also counted again on Friday, but they didn't add the Thursday onto the total twice. Hope that makes sense.
On Thursday, The Numbers wants to give it headlines for the dollars for the Midnight showings. The midnight showings are technically Friday showings, because the films are embargoed until the Friday dates. That is exactly the reason for having Midnight Showings for opening shows. When the show time is 12:01 AM, then the dollars are likely handed to the Box Office on Thursday, before midnight.
On Friday, The Numbers only shows $15M for Friday, with a grand total of $15M. Which means the $5M posted as Thursday was just rolled into Friday's figure, and actual Friday only had $10M - about the same as on Saturday.
I saw no rationalizations written on the site about it, but the NUMBERS don't lie, just The Numbers - haha.
Hope that explains. I was not trying to be obtuse or deceptive. I had thought you already knew this from the posted data. You seem to follow the site a while, I haven't much.
No... I'm glad you brought this up. Like I said, I always wondered why preview numbers were never counted in the total numbers before, and I also noticed that about 99 times out of 100 that Friday's numbers for a brand new movie are almost always higher than Saturday's numbers, which also didn't make sense to me since most folk work all day on Friday.
Just writing that reply to you last night I think I kind of worked out in my head what was going on. I just never did before because although I remember finding both of those things odd, I never really put any serious thought into them before.
I still would like to see it stated somewhere that this is what is going on for sure, but even without having that in writing somewhere I can't think of any other plausible way to explain it.
So yeah... Another good point you bring up there. But nothing really can be done about it since a Tuesday release doesn't get Monday night previews.
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Alien Raiders (2008). Direct to DVD.
Production Budget: $5 Million
Run Time: 85 minutes
Good, but not great...
I won't give any spoilers on this in case anybody wants to see it. I'd never even heard of this until I recently saw a video review that likened it to The Thing, which is in my top 5 movies of all time. I'd add that it also has vibes of The Mist, since the entire movie is filmed in a grocery store (which I've mentioned before is another genre that I love, when an entire movie is filmed in one place).
The acting on this one is pretty good by most of the main characters, and that's probably where most of the budget went. None of the people in it are household names, but even a guy like me who doesn't watch much these days recognized quite a few of them, though I couldn't place any of them until I looked it up on IMDB after it was done. You've actors who had roles in TV shows like Castle, Six Feet Under, Dexter, Chuck & Sons of Anarchy.
Because of the whole The Thing-esque concept, they're able to do most of the movie just filming people, but the little amount of practical effects that were used in the movie look really good... Probably partially due to the lights being turned out earlier on in the movie, which was a plot device I think was just thrown in there to make the effect scenes look better than they actually were.
About 30-40 minutes in and I was REALLY enjoying this and thought I had uncovered a hidden gem of a flick I was going to recommend my brother and dad watch, but I feel that it fumbled by the 3rd act, when it seemed that characters were making dumb decisions leading up to an ending that I suspected was going to happen about halfway to 1 hour into it.
It wasn't a funny movie at all, but the handcuff scene made me laugh out loud.
Overall, I'd give it a positive rating. Especially with the micro-budget. Not something I'd recommend to mainstream audiences. Also not a "so bad it's good" movie since it wasn't actually bad. I'd recommend this one to B-Movie Horror/Sci-Fi enthusiasts and people who grew up watching whatever schlock skipped the theaters and went straight to the cable channels on weekend nights with their friends at sleepovers in the 80's and 90s.
6.5/10
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