The Evidens

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JO753

Friday, July 16, 2021 8:06 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The investigation is over. No indictments were issued against Trump, and the one indictment against a Russian company that actually started to go to trial? The DOJ withdrew its case.

The reason why there will be NO TRIALS is because court-worthy evidence IS LACKING.

You forgot to mention all the gilty pleaz and convictionz.

https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-plea
s/

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SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 8:48 AM (P)

FROM THE ARTICLE

Quote:
Mueller’s most sweeping charges are unlikely to lead to any convictions. In 2018, he charged the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, with meddling in the 2016 election. In an unusually detailed 37-page indictment, quote] Mueller’s most sweeping charges are unlikely to lead to any convictions. In 2018, he charged the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, with meddling in the 2016 election. In an unusually detailed 37-page indictment,

And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.

Quote:
Justice Dept. abandons prosecution of Russian firm indicted in Mueller election interference probe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/us-justice-dept-aban
dons-prosecution-of-russian-firm-indicted-in-mueller-election-interference-probe/2020/03/16/5f7c3fd6-64a9-11ea-912d-d98032ec8e25_story.html

So, no case there.
NO EVIDENS.

Strike one!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 9:04 AM (P)

FROM THE ARTICLE

Quote:
Russian spies: Charged with stealing Democratic emails
Mueller’s second big set of charges was of 12 Russian military intelligence officers. The similarly detailed 29-page indictment explains how the hackers allegedly used phishing attacks to steal files from the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton presidential campaign, then worked with WikiLeaks to distribute the information to damage Clinton’s candidacy in an effort to help Trump win.

You know what they say: You can indict a ham sandwich. It's easy to gin up an indictment (like they did with the Internet Research Agency) if you're sure that the subject isn't going to show up in court, and this is what Mueller did here.

But long before Mueller's report was completed, Crowdstrike had ALREADY testified (2017) that there was no clear evidence that ANYONE had "stolen" DNC emails.

Quote:
CrowdStrike chief admits no proof that Russia exfiltrated DNC emails

https://www.itwire.com/security/crowdstrike-chief-admits-no-proof-that
-russia-exfiltrated-dnc-emails.html

In fact, the timestamps on the DNC files indicate that the files had been created MUCH faster than could be achieved by internet transmission, and the fact that the timestamps were all even numbers also indicates a thumb drive, not a remote "hack" over the internet.

Quote:
RussiaGate: New Evidence Shows DNC Emails Were Leaked, Not ‘Hacked’

https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/03/28/russiagate-new-evidence-shows-d
nc-emails-were-leaked-not-hacked/

So not only is there no evidence that the files were "stolen" (hacked remotely) there is technical evidence that the files were physically accessed by someone plugging a thumb drive or two into a server-connected PC, and copying them.

NO EVIDENS
COUNTERVAILING EVIDENS
Strikes 2-14!

And FWIW my money is on Seth Rich, a DNC operative who died shortly afterwards under mysterious circumstances.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 9:18 AM (P)

FROM THE ARTICLE

Quote:
Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort: Sentenced to seven and a half years in prison for financial crimes

If there are direct connections between the Russian efforts and the Trump campaign, one potential contact might have been campaign chairman Paul Manafort. A longtime Republican consultant, Manafort worked overseas in recent years, including for a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine.

And yet, despite $100,000,000 and years of effort, no such connection was ever found.

NO EVIDENS TO TRUMP
Strike 15!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 9:24 AM (P)

FROM THE ARTICLE

Quote:
Konstantin Kilimnik: Charged with obstruction of justice

On the other side, a possible point of contact might be Konstantin Kilimnik, who the FBI believes has ties to Russian intelligence. A former employee of Manafort’s firm, Kilimnik was sometimes described as “Manafort’s Manafort,” while Manafort reportedly called him “my Russian brain.” A poorly redacted court filing from Mueller’s team inadvertently revealed that Manafort gave Kilimnik detailed polling information during the campaign and discussed a Ukrainian peace plan...

But not only is there no evidence that Kilimnik shared polling data, met Manafort in Spain, entered the USA on a diplomatic passport, actual evidence shows, for example, that he traveled to the USA with a regular passport and visa.

Quote:
Accused Russiagate 'Spy' Kilimnik Speaks -- and Evidence Backs His 'No Collusion' Account

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/05/19/accused_ru
ssiagate_spy_kilimnik_speaks_-_and_evidence_backs_his_no_collusion_account_777328.html

NO EVIDENS
COUNTERVAILING EVIDENS

Strike 16!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 1:41 PM (P)

FROM THE ARTICLE.

Now THIS is a juicy one, filled with all kinds of entrapment and politicized prosecution!

Quote:
Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn: Pleaded guilty to lying to investigators

As a foreign policy adviser on the Trump campaign, a member of the presidential transition and the first National Security Adviser in the Trump Administration, Michael Flynn had valuable insight into key moments in the investigation. In 2017 he pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with then Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak and agreed to cooperate with the investigation. A year later, he asked a federal judge to delay his sentencing so that he could have more of an opportunity to assist the probes. Mueller’s team asked for him to receive little to no jail time, a sign that they viewed his cooperation as helpful.

FBI notes at the time said both investigators believed that Flynn was NOT lying. This exculpatory EVIDENS was withheld from the defense team, which eventually cause the DOJ to DROP ITS CASE AGAINST FLYNN.

Quote:
DOJ Drops Charges Against Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn

https://law.stanford.edu/2020/05/11/doj-drops-charges-against-former-n
ational-security-advisor-michael-flynn/

NOTE that they didn't charge Flynn with talking to the Russian Ambassador, or allege that his conversations with the Ambassador were illegal or even improper. Why didn't they charge him along those lines?
Because they felt they couldn't make those charges stick.

Now, IMHO, if a transition team makes informal contacts with foreign powers before the inauguration, that's pretty much par for the course, especially if the outgoing administration is going to set a foreign policy course that could permanently damage the incoming administration's goals. I'm absolutley sure that the Biden* team (Jake Sullivan for example) talked with both Merkel and Boris Johnson before the inauguration.

NO EVIDENS OF COLLUSION

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 1:43 PM (P)

FROM THE ARTICLE

Quote:
Former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates: Pleaded guilty to lying to investigators

ABOUT WHAT? The article doesn't even say.

Quote:
Former Trump personal lawyer Michael Cohen: Pleaded guilty to tax and bank charges, campaign finance violations and lying to Congress

ABOUT WHAT?
NOT RUSSIA.

Quote:
Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Served 12 days in prison for lying to investigators

Vindicated by the Horowitz report as being the victim of entrapment.

Quote:
Bijan Kian and Skim Alptekin: Charged with conspiring to violate lobbying laws

Lobbying for Turkey, A NATO ALLY.
What does this have to do with Russia?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 2:04 PM (P)

I've read plenty of puffed-up resumes in my life, and that article sounds like a bad one.

What I see, JO, is an incoming Trump administation with a different policy towards Russia, specifically the idea that Trump thought he could slow down the alliance between Russia and China, or possibly split Russia from China so he could focus his attention on China as the greater strategic threat.

A policy that the Biden* administration is trying to follow at this very moment, BTW..

Maybe you can't see the forest for the trees, but all of the allegations about Trump "colluding" with Russia, and Russia "interfering" in the 2016 election are just that: allegations. Accusations without EVIDENS.

I think the thing that is hard to wrap your brain around is the idea that the security state of two nations (USA and Britain) and the M$M could pervert the truth so massively and so constantly that it boggles the mind.

But all you have to do is look at all of the OTHER lies that the M$M has told, about ... well, everything. Even the potential laboratory origin of Covid-19: It was a conspiracy theory. Until we were supposed to wipe our brain of the "conspiracy theory" theory and reprogram it with the "new conspiracy theory" that it WAS a lab-based virus...

You see how that goes?

How many times do you need to be lied to before you get the idea that you're dealing with sociopathic liars?

And before you tell me that "Trump lies" ... I never believed him to begin with, anyway. I voted for him for three reasons that were achievable in his purview as President. The rest was all chaff in the wind and campaign rhetoric as far as I was concerned. Just like most of what dem candidates say.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Friday, July 16, 2021 2:23 PM (P)

Speaking of lies ...

Election audits reveal ...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64181&p=1#1
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SECOND

Friday, July 16, 2021 3:41 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FROM THE ARTICLE

Joint Chiefs denounce 'sedition and insurrection' of Capitol attack

The United States’ top military officers on Tuesday condemned the “sedition and insurrection” that took place at the Capitol last week when supporters of President Trump overtook the building.

“We witnessed actions inside the Capitol building that were inconsistent with the rule of law. The rights of freedom of speech and assembly do not give anyone the right to resort to violence, sedition and insurrection,” Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley and the rest of the Joint Chiefs wrote in memo to the force.

In addition to Milley, the memo was signed by Vice Chairman Gen. John Hyten and the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Marines Corps, Air Force, Space Force and National Guard.

The memo comes almost a week after rioters stormed the Capitol while Congress was meeting to certify Joe Biden’s victory in the presidential election, forcing lawmakers, staffers and journalists to find secure locations to hide in as the mob ransacked offices, assaulted Capitol Police officers and stole property. One Capitol Police officer died from injuries suffered in the attack.

The siege came after Trump spent weeks falsely claiming the election was rigged against him and shortly after he told a crowd of his supporters in D.C. to march on the Capitol and show “strength.”

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/533921-joint-chiefs-denounce-sediti
on-and-insurrection-of-capitol-attack

Signym, what time is it in Moscow, you Russian Troll?
www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/russia/moscow

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, July 16, 2021 4:17 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
Accused Russiagate 'Spy' Kilimnik Speaks -- and Evidence Backs His 'No Collusion' Account

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/05/19/accused_ru
ssiagate_spy_kilimnik_speaks_-_and_evidence_backs_his_no_collusion_account_777328.html

NO EVIDENS
COUNTERVAILING EVIDENS

Strike 16!

Speaking to Real Clear Investigations in fluent English from his home in Moscow, Kilimnik, 51, described these U.S. government assertions as "senseless and false accusations." Putin has made similar false statements from Moscow about his own innocence, but never from an American courtroom where he could be punished for perjury. Kilimnik and Putin both know how to play offended Russians in Moscow complaining about "senseless and false accusations." What American judge has the power and reach to stop either Putin or Kilimnik from lying their heads off in Moscow?

The FBI is offering a reward of up to $250,000 for information leading to the arrest of Konstantin Viktorovich Kilimnik. The FBI wants him to testify in an American court for a jury, not in Moscow for Real Clear Investigations:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/konstantin-viktorovich-
kilimnik

Despite his centrality to the Trump-Russia saga, Kilimnik says no U.S. government official has ever tried get in touch with him. "I never had a single contact with [the] FBI or any government official," Kilimnik says. I doubt that is true. Kilimnik could make $250,000, paid by the FBI, if he would return to America. The FBI would even buy him a Moscow-to-New York City plane ticket if he would turn himself in. If that seems all too weird for Kilimnik to directly receive $250,000, then maybe his girl friend or wife can collect the money by calling 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or submit a tip online at https://tips.fbi.gov/ .

See the wanted poster for details:
www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/konstantin-viktorovich-kilimnik
/konstantin-viktorovich-kilimnik.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Vlad:And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/why-did-justice-de
partment-drop-its-prosecution-2-firms-linked-n1161886

From the article:

Quote:
Marc Raimondi, a spokesman for the Justice Department's National Security Division, said Concord Management "was making a mockery of our legal system and had no intention of providing the materials the court asked for. They have sought to weaponize the discovery process."

Everything else you spent your time posting iz also garbaj. An important point you missed iz the overall messij it deliverz.

Wut ever happened to 'no contacts wutsoever' that Trump, Pence, Manafort, Trump Jr, Sessions, and on and on and on so loudly claimed till the middle uv 2017? Wy did they need to lie?

They were proven to be LYING LIARZ hoo then retreated to "no colusion" even az proof started emerjing that they were activly coluding all along. So, wy woud anybody beleev that unless they really wanted to?

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1KIKI

Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:45 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The investigation is over. No indictments were issued against Trump, and the one indictment against a Russian company that actually started to go to trial? The DOJ withdrew its case.

The reason why there will be NO TRIALS is because court-worthy evidence IS LACKING.

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:

You forgot to mention all the gilty pleaz and convictionz.

https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-plea
s/

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

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For things which had nothing at all to do with Trump, Russia, or collusion.

You left out those important facts.

1KIKI

Saturday, July 17, 2021 5:54 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
... even az proof started emerjing that they were activly coluding all along.

Where's the EVIDENS, JO?

Certainly Mueller didn't find any, and nobody else was empowered to look.

Unless of course you think anonymous gossip, allegation, speculation, and innuendo are EVIDENS?

SIGNYM

Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:30 PM (P)

Quote:
SIGNY: And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/why-did-justice-de
partment-drop-its-prosecution-2-firms-linked-n1161886

JO: From the article:
Quote:
Marc Raimondi, a spokesman for the Justice Department's National Security Division, said Concord Management "was making a mockery of our legal system and had no intention of providing the materials the court asked for. They have sought to weaponize the discovery process."

What does that mean, "weaponizing the discovery process"? And what was the reason that the DOJ gave the judge (not some blurb into a microphone)

Quote:
The Government has identified several considerations in its motion to dismiss that relate to the national security interests implicated by proceeding against defendants Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering ('Concord Defendants')," prosecutors wrote. "For the benefit of the Court, the Government seeks to provide information regarding these national security interests. These facts can only be filed ex parte because they are classified."

http://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_4baa96117038debfe9b002fd30de7fcc

"Ex parte" means "without the presence of the other"

Basically, the DOJ filed to dismiss because Concorde had asked for the evidence against it ("discovery", a normal part of a trial) and the DOJ apparently suddenly decided that the evidence was "classified" and couldn't be shared with the defendant.

Quote:
"Upon careful consideration of all of the circumstances, and particularly in light of recent events and a change in the balance of the government's proof due to a classification determination, as well as other facts described in more detail in a classified addendum to this motion, the government has concluded that further proceedings as to Concord, a Russian company with no presence in the United States and no exposure to meaningful punishment in the event of a conviction, promotes neither the interests of justice nor the nation's security."

So whether or not the EVIDENS should have been unclassified, was classified, or they used the "classification" excuse to avoid revealing that they had no EVIDENS at all, NO EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED IN COURT.

NO EVIDENS.

Quote:
Wut ever happened to 'no contacts wutsoever' that Trump, Pence, Manafort, Trump Jr, Sessions, and on and on and on so loudly claimed till the middle uv 2017? Wy did they need to lie?

Yanno, I never recalled Trump or anyone saying that, and when I tried to web search for a quote that was EVER said, I came up with nothing.

So I would look for quotes along those lines, if I were you, if only to prove to myself that I wasn't mis-remembering it.

In any case, if Trump has said something like that I personally would have understood it to mean no contacts ABOUT THE ELECTION. Bc everyone knows that Trump made a lot of money with the Miss Universe contest in Russia in 2013 (as BTW did NBC https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/trump-nbc-split-dollar47-million-on-
russian-financed-miss-universe-pageant-nyt-inquiry-reveals/ar-BB19tMm9) and as a businessman he probably would have made other contacts for further BUSINESS in Russia. But, so have a lot of other people, including Hillary Clinton and Angela Merkel. Also, since he had an incoming administration, I assume that his people would have been in contact with "their people" early on, just to establish lines of communication and to keep them open, just as I assume the Biden* administration established early contacts with Russ

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 17, 2021 6:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:
Originally posted by Vlad:And when the Internet Research Agency actually showed up in court, Mueller's team quietly folded their tents and slipped away in the night.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/why-did-justice-de
partment-drop-its-prosecution-2-firms-linked-n1161886

From the article:
Quote:
Marc Raimondi, a spokesman for the Justice Department's National Security Division, said Concord Management "was making a mockery of our legal system and had no intention of providing the materials the court asked for. They have sought to weaponize the discovery process."

Everything else you spent your time posting iz also garbaj. An important point you missed iz the overall messij it deliverz.

Wut ever happened to 'no contacts wutsoever' that Trump, Pence, Manafort, Trump Jr, Sessions, and on and on and on so loudly claimed till the middle uv 2017? Wy did they need to lie?

They were proven to be LYING LIARZ hoo then retreated to "no colusion" even az proof started emerjing that they were activly coluding all along. So, wy woud anybody beleev that unless they really wanted to?

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Sorry dude. We saw your Keith Olbermann videos.

You're a smart guy, but you're on a crazy train here.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SIGNYM

Sunday, July 18, 2021 9:43 AM (P)

Quote:
GOP Senators Demand Answers After 60% Of Phones Used By Mueller Probe Go Missing

Looks like Mueller believes in dealing with evidence the way Hillary does: make it disappear.

"Like, with a cloth?"

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

JO753

Sunday, July 18, 2021 10:35 AM (P)

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

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SIGNYM

Sunday, July 18, 2021 2:06 PM (P)

JO: Trump's denials were CLEARLY about "collusion" between Russia and his campaign.

The written text makes it VERY CLEAR. Just.... read the words, OK? "campaign" is in MANY of the statements. "cats" is on one. "puppet" is in another. "agents" in still another.

Try to comprehend what they're saying.

Or, why don't you just misunderstand EVERYTHING? Yanno, violently twist it to fit your narrative?

Oh, that's right, you already do!

*****

If you insist, Ill go thru it piece by piece to explain to you what's being said and what it means.

For example, first denial: They're talking to Manafort, Trump's campaign manager. They aren't asking Manafort about the price of corn in Iowa or Trump's past or ongoing business dealings with Russia, which Manafort would have no knowldge of. They're asking Manafort about what he should know: the Trump CAMPAIGN. Is the Trump CAMPAIGN coordinating with Russia, about the CAMPAIGN? In Trump THE CANDIDATE coordinating with Russia about his CAMPAIGN? They even use the word "campaign". How can it possibly be any clearer???

I mean, you have to eliminate most phrases from their questions and entirely remove knowledge of WHO they're interviewing (campaign manager) and WHEN they're interviewing (during the campaign)- i.e. remove the entire context - in order to present this as a blanket denial of "no contacts ever".

And yet, you manage!

Shall I continue?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

JO753

Monday, July 19, 2021 1:33 AM (P)

Nope.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

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1KIKI

Monday, July 19, 2021 1:48 AM (P)

anonymous gossip, allegation, speculation, and innuendo

unrelated red herrings*

but no EVIDENS

*
Manafort trial (about nothing to do with Russia/ Trump/ collusion) gets delayed
Buttina (who never got in touch with the Trump campaign) is said to be working for an unnamed Russian official to influence the NRA to influence the republican party to influence Congress to do ... something or other
Russian ham sandwiches get indicted
Wikileaks ... something ... blah blah blah ...
and still no EVIDENS

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 19, 2021 2:40 AM (P)

LOL Maddow.

I guess JO is one of the three people that still tune in.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

JO753

Monday, July 19, 2021 7:23 AM (P)

HAHAHA LOL, ye its that crazy Maddow agen!

Exept youre forgetting this:

I think this iz the 1st Don Jr Hannity interview. Then the next day it turnz out he wuz lying, goez bak on Hannity to make excusez. THEN it turnz out that he wuz still lying! It wuz about a week uv him going on Hannity to offer a reazon why he lied AGEN after NY Timez revealz more, and finally after like the 4th time saying 'thats everything' and its a lie, Hannity desidez not to risk looking like a fool AGEN and makes the excusez himself.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 19, 2021 7:38 AM (P)

I'd never watch Fox News.

I'd certainly never watch Hannity. Hannity is Maddow's equal and opposite.

Total trash for stupid people.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

1KIKI

Monday, July 19, 2021 8:35 AM (P)

JO, do you realize how little there is by the way of facts in your video?

The email bait that was dangled in front of Don Jr. was that somebody knew somebody who knew an unnamed and maybe even fictitious somebody who might have something on Hillary ...

If you were say, watching an ad, and it said "we know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who might have some kind of product to sell kind of like a couch", how much credence would you give it? Hopefully you understand that silly that would be.

Now, if it were my job to track these things down, I might have a meeting with them just to make sure I was thoroughly writing it off. And that's what happened. And when they did have the meeting - what was discussed? Nothing about Hillary. Nothing about Trump's campaign.

And what did Mueller make of all this? Because he looked into it in far more detail, with far more authority, and far deeper searches, with far more legal background, than anybody - even Maddow or Hannity.

He concluded there was no 'there' there. There was some false advertising by some non-governmental Russians that Don Jr. casually checked out that resulted in ... nothing.

And no EVIDENS.

Please stop trying to re-write the past and the facts.

SIGNYM

Monday, July 19, 2021 12:21 PM (P)

You know how when you look at random patterns, like clouds, you see things? There's a dog. There's a thumb. There's a teapot...

Well, JO is looking at clouds and seeing ... Putin, shaped like a spider in the middle of a web. And Putin, shaped like Trump. And Putin, looking for JO and trying to muddle his mind! And Putin ...

JO, if you want to know the truth you have to let the data speak to you. Let go of your expectations, fears, and hopes, and not impose your patterns on it. I used to review data for a living. Trust me, that's how it works.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SECOND

Monday, July 19, 2021 5:00 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Trust me, that's how it works.

Why is it that the least trustworthy are always saying trust me?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:40 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Trust me, that's how it works.
Why is it that the least trustworthy are always saying trust me?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Says the proven liar.

But thanks for the bump!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:07 AM (P)

One thing you can say for sure about SLOPPY is that he is totally without shame.

SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

SECOND

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:51 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One thing you can say for sure about SLOPPY drunk Trump is that he is totally without shame.

Trump gives Evidence every day that he is crazy:

Trump directed much of his ire toward former Vice President Mike Pence and former Attorney General Bill Bar, who the former president erroneously claimed could have blocked the certification of President Joe Biden's election win.

Pence, he said, could have "sent" the 2020 electoral votes "back to the legislatures" – a move he called "very acceptable."

"And I could show you letters from legislators," the president continued, "big-scale letters from different states, the states we're talking about. Had he done that, I think it would have been a great thing for our country. I think he had bad advice."

Trump spoke not only of the election certification process but of the fatal riot that occurred that very same day, undoubtedly fueled by his own baseless rhetoric about fraud.

Asked about January 6, Trump disavowed the riot, instead putting the blame on the Capitol police, who he said were "ushering people in," despite footage of the crowd violently attacking a number of police officers attempting to guard the building.

"The Capitol Police were very friendly," he said. "They were hugging and kissing. You don't see that. There's plenty of tape on that." Metaphorically speaking, Trump unzipped his pants and crapped on a public stage, which the news media covered without much comment about the unseemliness of the spectacular Trump Dump.

More about Trump's diarrhea of the mouth in a very public bowel movement at https://www.salon.com/2021/07/19/knucklehead-trump-continued-to-lash-o
ut-at--stupid-person-mitch-mcconnell-months-after-election/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:32 AM (P)

I can tell you're pissed off when you do things like change quotes ...

So hey, don't go away mad.

Just go away.

SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

SECOND

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:49 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I can tell you're pissed off when you do things like change quotes ...

So hey, don't go away mad.

Just go away.

SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?

You are forever referring to this SLOPPY person, but there is nobody at fff.net using that name. So I thought you should make yourself clear by writing out that it is SLOPPY Drunk Trump. I noticed you did not even acknowledge that Trump disavowed the riot, instead putting the blame on the Capitol police, who he said were "ushering people in," despite footage of the crowd violently attacking a number of police officers attempting to guard the building. "The Capitol Police were very friendly," he said. "They were hugging and kissing. You don't see that. There's plenty of tape on that." Trump was SLOPPY drunk when he dumped that bowel movement in public.

More about SLOPPY Drunk Trump and his diarrhea of the mouth at https://www.salon.com/2021/07/19/knucklehead-trump-continued-to-lash-o
ut-at--stupid-person-mitch-mcconnell-months-after-election/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:33 AM (P)

Sig, Kiki, 6. Prezuming for a moment that sumhow you arent GRU employeez, I woud like to offer you an immense servis.

Send me all your money. Just keep enuf to maintian your regular operationz.

You see, eventually, sum hukster iz going to show up at your door and befor he sez anything, hiz disdainful smirk will convins you to hand over every penny.

I will open accounts for you at a credit union that payz sum interest.

My dad wuz a rite wing GulliBull also. He lost 30,000$ all at wuns to a Russian* conman, then thouzandz more to hukster 'investigatorz' to find the gi. And he had a dozen different skam joints sending him bogus lottery junkmail for yirz, to wich he woud occassionally send money to claim hiz prizez.

Plus, there wuz at least 1 joint pilfering money directly out uv hiz bank account several timez a month for yirz with the help uv the bank. I got 2,000$ uv that bak, no thanks to dadz bank.

Then there wuz a selfone debacle. I manajd to get 2,500$ bak from Sprint for him.

Plus he lost hiz house. Prezumably for not paying the property tax, but knowing dad and Florida, chansez are there were skammerz involved. (the only brite spot on that wuz a house flipper in San Diego payed 300,000$ for it just befor the houzing bubble popped, so he lost hiz ass. But that wuz long after dad lost the plase, so no help to him)

So, in order to not end up pennyless in a an old fokes factory farm in Florida, getting dosed with sedativz every day, send me your nest egg. That way, wen Lyle Lanly showz up with an irrezistable opportunity, you wont be able to giv it to him.

I will provide this servis for a tiny 50$ per owr charjed only wen I am actually spending any time on it. Duznt take much to set up an acount. Also, if youv alredy lost 1,000$ or more to skammerz, I'll see if I can do sumthing and if I get any money bak for you, we split it 50-50.

*Russian or Jewish or both. I dont know. My dad never gave a consistent or detailed story, probably out uv embarrassment. I wuz only able to piece together the amounts and jeneral time frame (less than a yir after moving to the Fox Garding The Henhouse state) from bank recordz 12 yirz later.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:20 AM (P)

Wow. Doubling down on the personal-attack cray-cray train. Is that what you do when you realize you have no EVIDENS?

SECOND

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:33 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Sig, Kiki, 6. Prezuming for a moment that sumhow you arent GRU employeez, I woud like to offer you an immense servis.

I always think of those 3 as characters out of the novel "The Day of the Locust". The characters are outcasts, who have come to Hollywood to fulfill a dream or wish: "The importance of the wish in West's work was first noted by W. H. Auden, who declared (in one of the interludes in The Dyer's Hand) that West's novels were essentially "parables about a Kingdom of Hell whose ruler is not so much a Father of Lies as a Father of Wishes". (Father of Wishes well describes Trump.) In this respect, James Light, in his book Violence, Dreams, and Dostoevsky: The Art of Nathanael West, suggests that The Day of the Locust falls in with a motif in West's fiction; the exposure of hopeful narratives in modern American culture as frauds. (Fraud, too, well describes Trump.)

As some critics point out, West's novel was a radical challenge to modernist literature. Some modernists set themselves up in opposition to mass culture; West depicts it and makes it an integral part of the novel. West's use of grotesque imagery and situations establishes the novel as a work of Juvenalian satire. His critique of Hollywood and the mentality of "the masses" depicts an America sick with vanity and the harbor of a malignant sense of perversity.

The novel opens with actors playing the role of Napoleon's elite cavalry at the Battle of Waterloo. Waterloo marked the beginning of the end for Napoleon. The chaos of this scene foreshadows the beginning of the end for middle-class Americans in the novel, and the violence that ensues.

The original title of the novel was "The Cheated", which reminds me of the novel's characters and actual Trump voters I know in Texas -- foolish folk cheated in life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_of_the_Locust#Themes

The Day of the Locust By Nathanael West: free books, online
https://web.archive.org/web/20161013173456/https://ebooks.adelaide.edu
.au/w/west/nathanael/day-of-the-locust/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:58 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Sig, Kiki, 6. Prezuming for a moment that sumhow you arent GRU employeez, I woud like to offer you an immense servis.

Send me all your money. Just keep enuf to maintian your regular operationz.

You see, eventually, sum hukster iz going to show up at your door and befor he sez anything, hiz disdainful smirk will convins you to hand over every penny.

I will open accounts for you at a credit union that payz sum interest.

My dad wuz a rite wing GulliBull also. He lost 30,000$ all at wuns to a Russian* conman, then thouzandz more to hukster 'investigatorz' to find the gi. And he had a dozen different skam joints sending him bogus lottery junkmail for yirz, to wich he woud occassionally send money to claim hiz prizez.

Plus, there wuz at least 1 joint pilfering money directly out uv hiz bank account several timez a month for yirz with the help uv the bank. I got 2,000$ uv that bak, no thanks to dadz bank.

Then there wuz a selfone debacle. I manajd to get 2,500$ bak from Sprint for him.

Plus he lost hiz house. Prezumably for not paying the property tax, but knowing dad and Florida, chansez are there were skammerz involved. (the only brite spot on that wuz a house flipper in San Diego payed 300,000$ for it just befor the houzing bubble popped, so he lost hiz ass. But that wuz long after dad lost the plase, so no help to him)

So, in order to not end up pennyless in a an old fokes factory farm in Florida, getting dosed with sedativz every day, send me your nest egg. That way, wen Lyle Lanly showz up with an irrezistable opportunity, you wont be able to giv it to him.

I will provide this servis for a tiny 50$ per owr charjed only wen I am actually spending any time on it. Duznt take much to set up an acount. Also, if youv alredy lost 1,000$ or more to skammerz, I'll see if I can do sumthing and if I get any money bak for you, we split it 50-50.

*Russian or Jewish or both. I dont know. My dad never gave a consistent or detailed story, probably out uv embarrassment. I wuz only able to piece together the amounts and jeneral time frame (less than a yir after moving to the Fox Garding The Henhouse state) from bank recordz 12 yirz later.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

SO, JO, apparently you operate in an EVIDENS-free zone, where you believe all kids of crazy things.

Where's your EVIDENS that I'm Russian?

Oh, you have none?

Typical.

*****

KIKI- apparently neither logic nor EVIDENS changes crazy and stupid.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 7:35 AM (P)

He's been saying that I'm Russian, and he knows better.

I'm pretty sure he's just being an ass and the humor isn't coming across in his posts.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 7:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Sig, Kiki, 6. Prezuming for a moment that sumhow you arent GRU employeez, I woud like to offer you an immense servis.

Send me all your money. Just keep enuf to maintian your regular operationz.

You see, eventually, sum hukster iz going to show up at your door and befor he sez anything, hiz disdainful smirk will convins you to hand over every penny.

I will open accounts for you at a credit union that payz sum interest.

My dad wuz a rite wing GulliBull also. He lost 30,000$ all at wuns to a Russian* conman, then thouzandz more to hukster 'investigatorz' to find the gi. And he had a dozen different skam joints sending him bogus lottery junkmail for yirz, to wich he woud occassionally send money to claim hiz prizez.

Plus, there wuz at least 1 joint pilfering money directly out uv hiz bank account several timez a month for yirz with the help uv the bank. I got 2,000$ uv that bak, no thanks to dadz bank.

Then there wuz a selfone debacle. I manajd to get 2,500$ bak from Sprint for him.

Plus he lost hiz house. Prezumably for not paying the property tax, but knowing dad and Florida, chansez are there were skammerz involved. (the only brite spot on that wuz a house flipper in San Diego payed 300,000$ for it just befor the houzing bubble popped, so he lost hiz ass. But that wuz long after dad lost the plase, so no help to him)

So, in order to not end up pennyless in a an old fokes factory farm in Florida, getting dosed with sedativz every day, send me your nest egg. That way, wen Lyle Lanly showz up with an irrezistable opportunity, you wont be able to giv it to him.

I will provide this servis for a tiny 50$ per owr charjed only wen I am actually spending any time on it. Duznt take much to set up an acount. Also, if youv alredy lost 1,000$ or more to skammerz, I'll see if I can do sumthing and if I get any money bak for you, we split it 50-50.

*Russian or Jewish or both. I dont know. My dad never gave a consistent or detailed story, probably out uv embarrassment. I wuz only able to piece together the amounts and jeneral time frame (less than a yir after moving to the Fox Garding The Henhouse state) from bank recordz 12 yirz later.

No thanks.

I got conned by the White Van Scam back in the early 2000's. I've never been scammed again bud.

"That Jamacian took every last dime with that scam...
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse - Float On

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

JO753

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:22 AM (P)

Interesting vid. Herez wun with a similar style:

Its funny wen you gize say 'no evidens' in a 23 paje thred named The Evidens.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:59 PM (P)

Every piece of "evidens" that you posted that I've bothered to look at... evaporated.

If only you were as assiduous looking for wrongdoing on the Dem side.

But 23 pages of bullshit is still bullshit, no matter how it's titled.

ETA: I once again offer to go thru your "evidens" item by item. I've already dispatched a half-dizen or so pieces of your "evidens", and provided ample links to sources that you would probably trust, but I know it won't make a dent in your "thinking": You'll either come back with the same old "evidens" as if it had never been debunked, or you'll come up with even worse "evidens" that has ever less backing and makes even less sense.

BTW I note that the Guardian's article about the Kremlin papers seems to have died an ignominious death.

Gee, what do the other outlets know that you don't?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:36 PM (P)

Well, at least I now have some idea where JO's grotch against RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! comes from.

He thinks his lot in life is due to his father's poor decisions, rather than, for example, his own inability to get and keep a job. Though it might be that his mother enabled that thinking as well, by protecting her precious, misunderstood son from real-world consequences and blaming dad.

According to his account, his father was suckered by either Jews or Russians. And according to him it's extremely questionable which way it went. But he can't blame .Jews. because it's not fashionable to ever hold .Jews. accountable for their actions because ... .Hitler. .Hitler. absolves .Jews. from being accountable for anything, either in the past or in the entire future course of human history. Besides, blaming an entire group like .Jews. for the actions of individuals looks too much like antisemitism. But it IS fashionable to blame RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! and demonize an entire country for everything, from UFOs to UTIs, whether they did anything they're blamed for or not. And besides, that's not being irrationally biased ! It's fact. /sarcasm

SECOND

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:25 PM (P)

You can find evidence in the literature on cults of personality about why Trump's defenders poke out their own eyes, blinding themselves for the greater glory of their leader. Signym, 1kiki and 6ix can see nothing, can know nothing, can believe nothing about their leader Trump:

Republicans Have Their Own Private Autocracy
July 19, 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20210720013044/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/19/opinion/republicans-donald-trump-misinformation.html

I’m a huge believer in the usefulness of social science, especially studies that use comparisons across time and space to shed light on our current situation. So when the political scientist Henry Farrell suggested that I look at his field’s literature on cults of personality, I followed his advice. He recommended one paper in particular, by the New Zealand-based researcher Xavier Márquez; I found it revelatory.

“The Mechanisms of Cult Production” compares the behavior of political elites across a wide range of dictatorial regimes, from Caligula’s Rome to the Kim family’s North Korea, and finds striking similarities. Despite vast differences in culture and material circumstances, elites in all such regimes engage in pretty much the same behavior, especially what the paper dubs “loyalty signaling” and “flattery inflation.”

Signaling is a concept originally drawn from economics; it says that people sometimes engage in costly, seemingly pointless behavior as a way to prove that they have attributes others value. For example, new hires at investment banks may work insanely long hours, not because the extra hours are actually productive, but to demonstrate their commitment to feeding the money machine.

In the context of dictatorial regimes, signaling typically involves making absurd claims on behalf of the Leader and his agenda, often including “nauseating displays of loyalty.” If the claims are obvious nonsense and destructive in their effects, if making those claims humiliates the person who makes them, these are features, not bugs. I mean, how does the Leader know if you’re truly loyal unless you’re willing to demonstrate your loyalty by inflicting harm both on others and on your own reputation?

And once this kind of signaling becomes the norm, those trying to prove their loyalty have to go to ever greater extremes to differentiate themselves from the pack. Hence “flattery inflation”: The Leader isn’t just brave and wise, he’s a perfect physical specimen, a brilliant health expert, a Nobel-level economic analyst, and more. The fact that he’s obviously none of these things only enhances the effectiveness of the flattery as a demonstration of loyalty.

Does all of this sound familiar? Of course it does, at least to anyone who has been tracking Fox News or the utterances of political figures like Lindsey Graham or Kevin McCarthy.

Many people, myself included, have declared for years that the G.O.P. is no longer a normal political party. It doesn’t look anything like, say, Dwight Eisenhower’s Republican Party or Germany’s Christian Democrats. But it bears a growing resemblance to the ruling parties of autocratic regimes.

The only unusual thing about the G.O.P.’s wholesale adoption of the Leader Principle is that the party doesn’t have a monopoly on power; in fact, it controls neither Congress nor the White House. Politicians suspected of insufficient loyalty to Donald Trump and Trumpism in general aren’t sent to the gulag. At most, they stand to lose intraparty offices and, possibly, future primaries. Yet such is the timidity of Republican politicians that these mild threats are apparently enough to make many of them behave like Caligula’s courtiers.

Unfortunately, all this loyalty signaling is putting the whole nation at risk. In fact, it will almost surely kill large numbers of Americans in the next few months.

The stalling of America’s initially successful vaccination drive isn’t entirely driven by partisanship — some people, especially members of minority groups, are failing to get vaccinated for reasons ha

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:11 PM (P)

Trump is not my leader.

Biden* is your though, huh?

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SECOND

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 7:52 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.

Biden* is your though, huh?

Republicans are always looking for ways to show that they’re more committed to the Trump than their colleagues are — and given how far down the rabbit hole the party has already gone, the only way to do that is “nonsense and nihilism,” advocating crazy and destructive policies, like opposing vaccines.

That is, hostility to vaccines has become a form of loyalty signaling.

As a reminder, 6ix, your opposition to vaccination and masks and everything about preventing the spread of Covid-19 is well known.

6ix, you even deny that Covid-19 killed anyone. You are full of “nonsense and nihilism,” advocating crazy and destructive policies. And you already pledged to vote for Trump a third time. You are not truthful when you wrote "Trump is not my leader".

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

JO753

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:16 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.

We know. It's Putin.

Quote:
Biden* is your though, huh?

Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

1KIKI

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:21 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.

Quote:
]Originally posted by JO753:
We know. It's Putin.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* is your though, huh?

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.

Was Trump ever your leader? Because he was president. And - according to you - that's how it works. Your president is your leader.

Or do you maintain a double set of standards?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:35 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is not my leader.

Quote:
]Originally posted by JO753:
We know. It's Putin.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* is your though, huh?
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.
Was Trump ever your leader? Because he was president. And - according to you - that's how it works. Your president is your leader.

Or do you maintain a double set of standards?

He kind of fell right into that one, didn't he?

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

JO753

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:11 PM (P)

We had a CEO for 4 yirz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:14 PM (P)

We've got a lobotomized child grabber right now.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
We had a CEO for 4 yirz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

If that's the worst you can say ...

BTW, many public organizations, charities and foundations also have CEOs. I was just thinkig about that the other day: One of the reasons for Trump failing to accomplish what he set out to do was that he didn't grok the DC power structure. He thought he was CEO when in reality he was just the President, in a structure designed with division of powers in mind.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

JO753

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:42 PM (P)

Trump wuznt CEO. Putin wuz.

And thats not the way it works.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:53 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Trump wuznt CEO. Putin wuz.

And thats not the way it works.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

We come back to ... No evidens.

Where's the EVIDENS that can support that conclusion? Bc so far, all you've posted is vaporware.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:58 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
We had a CEO for 4 yirz.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

JO, I'm always curious about your wild lapses in logic. Here you demonstrate the classic - the sacred rules are for them. But they're not for me, because I have my 'reasons' (sotto voce but they're not allowed to have theirs).

So, can you tell me this: does your illogic cause you even a minor speed bump when you run over it? Or does encountering it drive you even further into an unthinking embrace of bias and illogic?

JO753

Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:19 AM (P)

'fell rite into that wun', 'No evidens', 'bad lojik' bla bla bla.

Maybe you gize don realize you got checkmated agen?

Herez more Maddow, dishing out the nothingburger you and the Fox eko chamber haz no taste for.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:06 AM (P)

Just so you know, UAE isn't Russia, no matter HOW you try and move the letters around!

JO, what's your point?

Do you have one?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:12 AM (P)

So, when you say that Biden* is Jack's president because

Quote:
Yes. He'z the Prez. Thats how it works.

but Trump wasn't yours, it sure looks like a case of double standards and failed logic.

Do you claim that Trump wasn't elected by the electors? That he wasn't inaugurated? That he didn't hold the office and have the title?

What fact was not in place for him to be president?

JO753

Thursday, July 22, 2021 12:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:but Trump wasn't yours, it sure looks like a case of double standards and failed logic.

Do you claim that Trump wasn't elected by the electors? That he wasn't inaugurated? That he didn't hold the office and have the title?

What fact was not in place for him to be president?

If the rulez were being enforsed, he woud hav been disqualified and sent to the pokey wen it came out that hiz campane wuz getting aid & $ from forin nationz. Therefor, he never wuz legally The Prezident.

Furthermore, The Constitution haz nothing about a CEO ubuv the Prezident. Trump enabled that situation, breaking hiz oath uv offis befor he even took it and continued for hiz entire term. Then he topped it off with an attempted self coo.

He failed to faithfully execute the dutyz uv the offis frum legal and practical perspectivz.

Az much az Trump's Chumps worship him, he wuz never anybody'z Prezident and he never acted like an American Prezident. He wuz alwayz just a cult leader / mob boss. He still iz!

Dig up Lincoln, reanimate him with blak majik, a zombie virus, or advanst clone tek and put him in charj uv reviewing the case.

Going by the lawz uv hiz time, He woud not only hav Trump and hiz entire administration executed, he woud disband the party he started az well az execute most uv the R Congressmen & Senatorz.

Treazon woud be the charj.

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SIGNYM

Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:29 PM (P)

Quote:
1KIKI:but Trump wasn't yours, it sure looks like a case of double standards and failed logic.

Do you claim that Trump wasn't elected by the electors? That he wasn't inaugurated? That he didn't hold the office and have the title?

What fact was not in place for him to be president?

JO: If the rulez were being enforsed, he woud hav been disqualified and sent to the pokey wen it came out that hiz campane wuz getting aid & $ from forin nationz. Therefor, he never wuz legally The Prezident.

Baloney

Quote:
Furthermore, The Constitution haz nothing about a CEO ubuv the Prezident. Trump enabled that situation,

More baloney.

You have him tried and executed in your mind, on allegations that have already been investigated. And still, NO EVIDENS.

JO, you have this idee fixe that can't be shaken no matter HOW MUCH evidence is against, and how little evidence in favor. Please, engage the intelligence that I know is in there, and shake your unshakeable belief. It's become a religion to you.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Thursday, July 22, 2021 2:05 PM (P)

Quote:
If the rulez were being enforsed he woud hav been disqualified and sent to the pokey wen it came out that hiz campane wuz getting aid & $ from forin nationz. Therefor, he never wuz legally The Prezident.

Apparently Mueller looked deeply into this and never did find any evidence (that darn word again!) of foreign money in the Trump campaign. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-invest
igation/index.html But Hillary Clinton campaign was given a heads-up (by Comey) about foreign money and attempted influence and the incident wasn't allowed (by Comey) to be investigated. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/yes-foreign-actor-did-try-int
erfere-hillary-clintons-campaign-167946

Quote:
Furthermore, The Constitution haz nothing about a CEO ubuv the Prezident.

I have no idea what this means.

Quote:
Trump enabled that situation, breaking hiz oath uv offis befor he even took it and continued for hiz entire term.

I still have no idea what you mean, but I gather you're complaining that though Trump didn't do anything unconstitutional, you dislike what he did.

Quote:
Then he topped it off with an attempted self coo.

You call a protest, where NOBODY brought guns or bombs, a coup?

Quote:
He failed to faithfully execute the dutyz uv the offis frum legal and practical perspectivz.

Trump failed in his Presidential duties by ... trying to secure the borders? Trying to claw back some US industry from China (or at least make those goods come with a penalty)? Not constantly fear-mongering over RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! ? What SPECIFICALLY is your complaint?

Quote:
Az much az Trump's Chumps worship him, he wuz never anybody'z Prezident and he never acted like an American Prezident.

Trump was most definitely the President of the entire USA. The Constitution - the law of the land, the thing you profess to believe in, and criticize Trump for failing - says that he was.

Quote:
He wuz alwayz just a cult leader / mob boss. He still iz!

But whatever else you call him, he was President.

Quote:
Dig up Lincoln, reanimate him with blak majik, a zombie virus, or advanst clone tek and put him in charj uv reviewing the case.

Going by the lawz uv hiz time, He woud not only hav Trump and hiz entire administration executed, he woud disband the party he started az well az execute most uv the R Congressmen & Senatorz.
Treazon woud be the charj.

Meaningless hyperbole. I hope you don't believe it.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:11 PM (P)

Biden* is my president, in the thinnest, almost meaningless sense of the word.

Besides the fact that mail-in fraud election was fraud, he doesn't have a single neuron firing properly in his brain anymore, and all he can think about on stage is how the 12 year old daughters of other politicians sitting in the audience really set him on fire. He's a puppet president.

But I'm not going to sit and bitch and moan about shit that's out of my control for the next 4 years like you do JO.

I'm too smart for that, and frankly, you are too.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SECOND

Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:51 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Biden* is my president, in the thinnest, almost meaningless sense of the word.

Besides the fact that mail-in fraud election was fraud, he doesn't have a single neuron firing properly in his brain anymore, and all he can think about on stage is how the 12 year old daughters of other politicians sitting in the audience really set him on fire. He's a puppet president.

But I'm not going to sit and bitch and moan about shit that's out of my control for the next 4 years like you do JO.

I'm too smart for that, and frankly, you are too.

The American legal system is very slow at punishing rich people like Trump or Jeffrey Epstein:

Brown wasn’t the first journalist to cover Epstein or to scrutinize the 2008 plea deal in which the billionaire got off with a mere slap on the wrist, despite ample evidence that he had lured scores of underage girls to his Palm Beach mansion to molest and sexually exploit them. But Brown resuscitated the story by poring over reams of court documents, meticulously tracing the myriad ways Epstein’s powerful friends and well-funded lawyers manipulated the justice system on his behalf. Most importantly, she tracked down multiple victims—no easy task, since the legal documents anonymized them—and persuaded several women to be interviewed on the record, as well as winning over the wary Palm Beach police detective and police chief who, she soon realized, “seemed to the be the only two people who were willing to risk their careers to go after Jeffrey Epstein.”

https://slate.com/culture/2021/07/perversion-justice-julie-brown-jeffr
ey-epstein-review.html

If Jeffrey Epstein had stayed away from little girls and concentrated on tax cheating as Trump has done, Epstein would still be alive today. When Trump finally gets his mere slap on the wrist for tax cheating, no reporters will reopen the story in 10 years because it doesn't involve sex.

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JO753

Friday, July 23, 2021 10:03 AM (P)

And thats the gi Trump pikt to be Labor Secretary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/us/politics/acosta-resigns-trump.ht
ml

SOP for Trump wuz to put crooks into pozitionz uv power, but uv special note here with Acosta iz hiz work for Epstien. Did Trump beleev he coud be useful in the future if pedofilia charjez agenst him came out?

Makes sens considering the countless thouzandz uv better qualified peepl he coud hav pikt for the job.

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JO753

Friday, July 23, 2021 10:45 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI: Apparently Mueller looked deeply into this and never did find any evidence (that darn word again!) of foreign money in the Trump campaign. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-invest
igation/index.html

Thanks for the link. I dont recall hearing about Ejypt'z dictator helping Trump befor.

Did you fail to read the story yourself? It hurts your case rather than put any dout on Russian interferens.

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SIGNYM

Friday, July 23, 2021 1:44 PM (P)

Quote:
1KIKI: Apparently Mueller looked deeply into this and never did find any evidence (that darn word again!) of foreign money in the Trump campaign. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/politics/trump-campaign-donation-invest
igation/index.html

JO: Thanks for the link. I dont recall hearing about Ejypt'z dictator helping Trump befor.
Did you fail to read the story yourself? It hurts your case rather than put any dout on Russian interferens.

Jo, did YOU read the article??? Here, let me help your comprehension of the article

Quote:
... Prosecutors suspected there could be a link between the Egyptian bank and Trump's campaign contribution, according to several of the sources, but they could never prove a connection.

It's not clear that investigators ever had concrete evidence

Oh dear.
NO EVIDENS

Quote:
of a relevant bank transfer from the Egyptian bank... "The case was first looked at by the Special Counsel investigators who failed to bring a case, and then it was looked at by the US attorney's office, and career prosecutors in the national security section, who also were unable to bring a case. Based upon the recommendations of both the FBI and those career prosecutors, Michael Sherwin, the acting US attorney, formally closed the case in July."

Because NO EVIDENS.

JO, you've been endlessly chasing phantoms and making up stories about Trump that, in the end, are NOTHING.

Your thinking is so distorted that you can read an article that plainly says one thing and turn it 180 deg.

Wow.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SECOND

Friday, July 23, 2021 2:33 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
And thats the gi Trump pikt to be Labor Secretary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/us/politics/acosta-resigns-trump.ht
ml

SOP for Trump wuz to put crooks into pozitionz uv power, but uv special note here with Acosta iz hiz work for Epstien. Did Trump beleev he coud be useful in the future if pedofilia charjez agenst him came out?

Makes sens considering the countless thouzandz uv better qualified peepl he coud hav pikt for the job.

The assumption that Epstein’s victims were insignificant and disposable pervaded everything he did. In a striking anecdote, Brown hears about Epstein’s longtime friendship with Donald Trump, who once fondly remarked that Epstein was “a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” According to the story Brown was told, the two men finally fell out when Epstein hit on the daughter of a member of Mar-a-Lago. That was an uncharacteristic misstep for Epstein, hunting among the people who count.

https://slate.com/culture/2021/07/perversion-justice-julie-brown-jeffr
ey-epstein-review.html

Trump never goes as far as Epstein did at breaking the law. I "admire" Trump. He has sufficient self-control that his lawbreaking is never so egregious that public opinion absolutely forces law-enforcement to finally indict him, unlike Epstein, who occasionally forgot where the forbidden zone is, where the cops can't ignore what he did, although the cops really want to ignore it all, but only if the public doesn't know the cops are shirking their duty, preferring to indict poor people who don't have a team of lawyers constantly on call to handle emergencies. When Trump's legal toilet overflows because he took a huge dump, Trump calls his Roto-Rooter team of attorneys to stop this shit.

Trump says people are 'flushing toilets 10, 15 times'

Why is Trump so obsessed with toilets? One imagines Freud would have had a theory or two. My own, very simple, explanation is that the guy is potty; he has worms in his brain and something horrible in his gut. Interestingly, however, Trump seems particularly bothered by bathroom issues during tough times. His 2019 rants were delivered as impeachment proceedings started. His latest loo-natic monologue was delivered with the election just weeks away, Joe Biden leading in the polls, and the number of people with coronavirus surging across the US. Is he subconsciously showing us he’s worried his career is about to get flushed down the toilet? Let’s hope so and let’s hope it happens: it’s time to dump Trump.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/20/trump-obsessed-t
oilets-busted-flush-arwa-mahdawi

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, July 23, 2021 6:15 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Let’s hope so and let’s hope it happens: it’s time to dump Trump.

That'll be the day.

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JO753

Saturday, August 14, 2021 6:51 PM (P)

Add another name to the TrumPutin Conspirasy.

Patrick Byrne.

From WaPo:

Quote:
The 56-year-old, who used to be Overstock’s largest shareholder, set off a frenzy last month when he said he had been involved in multiple FBI investigations and had romanced Maria Butina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/19/overstocks-former-c
eo-sells-off-his-m-stake-saying-hes-worried-about-deep-state/

Or, he coud be lying kuz he had the hots for Maria. Another wakt out splooj monkey with the $$$ to be az kurazy az he wants.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, August 14, 2021 7:48 PM (P)

If I were you, JO, I'd be a lot more worried about what's swimming around in your blood right now.

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, August 18, 2021 1:20 AM (P)

Quote:
Even for those of us who followed and wrote on the Russia investigation for five years, much has been revealed in the last year.

It was disclosed in October, for instance, that President Obama was briefed by his CIA director, John Brennan, on July 28, 2016, on intelligence suggesting that Hillary Clinton planned to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” The date was significant because the Russia investigation was initiated July 31, 2016, just three days later.

Throughout the campaign, the Clinton campaign denied any involvement in the creation of the so-called Steele dossier’s allegations of Trump-Russia connections. However, weeks after the election, journalists discovered that the Clinton campaign hid payments for the dossier made to a research firm, Fusion GPS, as “legal fees” among the $5.6 million paid to the campaign’s law firm. New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said at the time that Clinton lawyer Marc Elias, with the law firm of Perkins Coie, denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said, Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”

It was not just reporters who asked the Clinton campaign about its role in the Steele dossier. John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, was questioned by Congress and denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Sitting beside him was Elias, who reportedly said nothing to correct the misleading information given to Congress.

It was later revealed that American intelligence viewed Steele as unreliable and believed his dossier was used by Russian intelligence to plant disinformation. Later reports show that Steele shopped the information to any reporters who would listen before the election and that there was an effort to get the information to trusted figures in the Justice Department.

This cross-pollination between the campaign and the Justice Department was evident in the strange role of Bruce Ohr, a senior Justice official who was later demoted for concealing his meetings with people pushing the Steele dossier; his wife, Nellie Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS as a researcher on Trump’s purported connections to Russia. Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz subsequently found that Bruce Ohr acted improperly and committed “consequential errors in judgment.”

Others are reported in some media accounts to be in Durham’s crosshairs, including an analyst at the liberal Brookings Institution, Igor Danchenko, who was a source for part of the dossier and the subject of a Durham subpoena. Danchenko has been linked to a source viewed by American intelligence as a conduit for Russian disinformation and reportedly was investigated as a possible national security threat, according to at least one news report.

Durham also is reportedly looking into information concerning Alfa Bank, a privately owned commercial bank in Russia. That information led to possible access to the Trump campaign server. The Alfa Bank controversy is likely to make a number of powerful people particularly uneasy. Clinton campaign-linked figures such as Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson allegedly pushed the debunked claim that the Trump campaign had a server linked directly to the bank, which in turn was linked to Vladimir Putin and his cronies. The Alfa Bank conspiracy reportedly was pitched to the Justice Department, including in contacts with Bruce Ohr.

-- https://jonathanturley.org/2021/08/16/beware-the-eephus-washington-on-
edge-as-durham-prepares-possible-indictments-and-report/

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JO753

Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:28 AM (P)

Rachel explainz how Trump deliberately sabatojd the withdrawal:

And the GoPs helped make it az bad az possible.

Sins it wuz long BEFORE the election, and BEFORE he lost the election, wy woud he sabatoj it wen it wuz possible he woud be Prez wen it happened?

wy? wy? wy? Its Kray Zeee! wy?

Bekuz Putin ordered him to. Make America look bad.

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DREAMTROVE

Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:46 AM (P)

This is silly.

I mean Putin said outright "I like Trump. I think I can work with Trump." Hillary said "If elected I will [send troops] to Ukraine to fight [Russia]"
Yeah, he had an opinion on the election, but his approach was to outright say it, not to hack our election with spies. The USSR has probably been interfering in every election they could for its entire existence, here and worldwide. So what? So have we. This isn't a shocking revelation.

The left bots are just upset because the guy Russia liked won.
Seems like whining.

Also, the media's "hey look, Trump likes slavic girls ergo he's a Russian spy" is probably the dumbest argument I've heard in US election politics and that has a LOT of competition. Actually, I'm sure someone can come up with a dumber one. I'll chalk that up to memory lapse. It's so much stupid that I'm sure there's a dumber one.

JO753

Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:54 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

hypocritical GoP law professor Jonathan Hurley employz wutuboutizm to distract from TrumPutin Conspirasy

Even if everything he sez iz true, wich iz very unlikely, it duznt mean Putin did not help get Trump elected.

Wy are you even bothering? Your denial boat sunk 4 yirz ago.

Youre a gost in a premium cabin on the Titanic, still waiting for your frikaseed rabbit au gratin & Chataue Le Blanc.

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JO753

Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:07 AM (P)

Start at the beginning, DT.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:12 AM (P)

Whatever bad happens, it's Trump's fault, acting as Putin's puppet ^TM

JO doesn't have to show HOW it was done. That it was something bad is evidens enuf.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:42 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
Start at the beginning, DT.

If you've got free time to waste and you want to read a bunch of crazy shit, by all means DT...

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JO753

Friday, October 1, 2021 8:27 AM (P)

new evidens.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 1, 2021 8:31 AM (P)

I'd tell you to get a hobby, but I know you've already got them.

Maybe it's time for you to get a job, JO, so you don't have to think about Trump all the time.

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JO753

Friday, October 8, 2021 9:44 PM (P)

I bet Jef Clark gets to be the fall gi and the rest get away with it all.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, October 8, 2021 9:59 PM (P)

Sorry not sorry, but nobody should be listening to the opinions of somebody getting paid $30 million per year to tell you what to think.

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JO753

Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:39 AM (P)

Wut opinion?

Its the Fox goonz spewing baseless opinion all nite. I dont think any uv their dumass viewerz can tell the differens between a statement uv fact (true or false) and an opinion.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 9, 2021 11:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:

Its the Fox goonz spewing baseless opinion all nite. I dont think any uv their dumass viewerz can tell the differens between a statement uv fact (true or false) and an opinion.

I agree.

But you should look in the fucking mirror.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, October 9, 2021 2:41 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Whatever bad happens, it's Trump's fault, acting as Putin's puppet ^TM

JO doesn't have to show HOW it was done. That it was something bad is evidens enuf.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, October 10, 2021 8:11 PM (P)

OK, JO753, I wanted to get back to you on the Rachel Madcow video - which I only listned halfway thru, she's such a roomba ... with something other than an automated response.

WHY, for god's sake, is she spewing about "how our DoJ is not supposed to work" NOW?'

Didn't she notice that Hillary Clinton had hired Perkins- Coie (law firm) to hire Fusion GPS, who hired Christopher Steele, who paid a drunken disaffected Russian (who had a habit of telling people what they wanted to hear, for money) and that disinfo was used to concoct a "dossier" full of lurid, evidence-free allegations?

Didn't Madcow notice that this evidence-free "dossier" was back-channeled by Nellie Ohr (CIA) to her husband, Bruce Ohr (Associate Deputy Attorney General) who stove-piped it to James Comey ( Director of the FBI), Peter McCabe (Acting Director of the FBI, after Comey was fired), and Peter Strzok (FBI "investigator/instigator"), and that a witch-hunt was begun on that basis?

She also didn't object to Comey using the discussion of the "dossier" with Trump (while assuring him that he was not under investigation) as an excuse to divulge the allegations against Trump to Senators, so that it could be leaked to Buzzfeed (via McCain aide David Kramer,

Quote:
IG Report: McCain Aide Leaked Steele Dossier to Buzzfeed; McCain Colluded With Comey

https://thenewamerican.com/ig-report-mccain-aide-leaked-steele-dossier
-to-buzzfeed-mccain-colluded-with-comey/

so that the allegations could be reprinted and echoed and endlessly rehashed throughout the M$M without ever being challenged on fact?

Didn't Madcow notice that the FBI charged Michael Flynn wiht lying, even as their internal reports indicated that his interviewers - including Pter Strzok- believed he wsa telling them THE truth?

She didn't notice that the same firm (Perkins- Coie) ALSO hired Crowdstrike to "examine" the suposedly hacked, and leaked, DNC emails, which blared to the public that they had found "evidence" of Russian involvement, but that THE FBI ITSELF NEVER LOOKED AT THE SERVERS? Meanwhile, Crowdstrike was secretly testifying to the Senate that there was NO evidence that the emails had been "exfiltrated" - i.e. remotely uploaded- by ANYONE, let alone Russians?

And what about that form on Trump aide Carter Page, that was illegally changed by FBI Lawyer Kevin Klinesmith to aver that Page was NOT working for the CIA - which he was- which would explain his contacts with Russians .... because he was passing that info back to the CIA!

I could go on and on about the conspiracy on the DOJ to fabricate "evidence" about Trump, involving the FBI, CIA, Senators, the abuse of the FISA Court, suppression of exculpatory evidence, and illegal leaks to the media (these investigations are supposed to be hush hush) ... why didn't she object THEN?

This trail of abuse of process and illegalities by the CIA and FBI are not rumors or allegations, JO753, they are FACT, found in various Inspector General reports and internal investigations. It forms a clear picture of a multi-year conspiracy to dislodge a duly elected President from office. Why wasn't Madcow hyperventilating about the subversion of the DOJ and an ACTUAL attempted coup and loss of democracy THEN?

*****

There were thousands of allegtions of improprieties observed during the ballot-counting process, backed by hundreds of affidavits (sworn testimony). This was NOT "made up" by Giuliani. It was the concern of roughly 75 million Americans.

What would have happened if the DOJ had NOT "investigated"? There would have been a huge hue and cry of a coverup. As it is, the DOJ did the establishment a huge favor by investigting and finding nothing.

JO753, you need a new pair of eyes. You only see what you've been convinced to see. Get new glasses, Ge

JO753

Saturday, October 30, 2021 3:57 PM (P)

Jon Durham stepped in it.

If the Demz got any sens at all, they will hype the poopoo out uv this.

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JO753

Saturday, October 30, 2021 4:06 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

This trail of abuse of process and illegalities by the CIA and FBI are not rumors or allegations, JO753, they are FACT, found in various Inspector General reports and internal investigations. It forms a clear picture of a multi-year conspiracy to dislodge a duly elected President from office. Why wasn't Madcow hyperventilating about the subversion of the DOJ and an ACTUAL attempted coup and loss of democracy THEN?

Nise color.

Darnel frum Cristine: "Yu no, Pepper, you cant polish a turd".

Siggy thinks: 'hmm. Lets try painting it!'

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, October 30, 2021 4:22 PM (P)

lol

What's your boy Biden* up to besides making sure every Democrat down ticket outside of California and New York is going to lose the next election?

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SIGNYM

Friday, November 5, 2021 12:20 AM (P)

I see that you're blinding your eyes to FACTS , JO753.

I told you that these FACTS were being unearthed as part of a criminal investigation, didn't I?

For a smart man, you're kinda dumb.

Quote:
Arrest Of Steele Dossier Source A "Seismic Development"
Thursday, Nov 04, 2021 - 10:16 AM

Shining further light on today's arrest of Igor Danchenko - the primary source for the debunked Steele dossier - is constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley, who calls it a "seismic development."

More via Jonathanturley.org:

The office of Special Counsel John Durham has confirmed that Igor Danchenko, a key source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele, has been arrested. This is the third arrest by Durham who is moving toward the prosecution stage of his investigation into the origins of the Russian collusion scandal. Durham is variously described as either painfully methodical or positively glacial as a prosecutor. But he is widely credited with being a dogged and absolutely apolitical prosecutor. Danchenko’s arrest is a seismic development and confirmed Durham is far from done with his investigation.

Washington was recently rocked by the indictment of Michael Sussman, former counsel for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee, for his alleged role in spreading a false Russia conspiracy theory.

Now Danchenko is being charged with lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Danchenko is widely referenced as the sub-source for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele for his controversial dossier. That dossier, funded by the Clinton campaign, served as the basis for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants against Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

Danchenko told the FBI that the dossier was “unsubstantiated” and said that Steele asked him to look for any “compromising” information on Trump. Mr. Danchenko worked for the Brookings Institution, a liberal Washington think-tank that often produced reports critical of Trump.

Danchenko is not someone who immediately comes across as an apex defendant — the highest target in an investigation. He was a key source used by others to advance false or unsubstantiated claims against Trump. He is the type of defendant that prosecutors pressure to flip against those who retained him or used him in this effort. In other words, he strikes me as someone who can be used as a building block to apex defendants.

Potential apex targets above him in investigation range from Steele himself to Clinton general counsel Marc Elias to Clinton campaign officials.

There is no indication if Durham has possible evidence of criminal acts by those figures but there is every indication that he is not done by a long shot with this investigation.

MORE AT ZEROHEDGE https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-arrest-primary-steele-dossier-s
ource-durham-investigation-heats

but original material from https://jonathanturley.org/2021/11/04/igor-danchenko-arrested-as-part-
of-durham-investigation/

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SIGNYM

Friday, November 5, 2021 10:57 PM (P)

Bump for JO753.

I just wanted to make sure you see REAL evidence, found by criminal investigation and durable enough to warrant actual arrests, instead of "allegations" and "indictments" (later withdrawn.)

I do hope you open your mind up to the possibility that you might be wrong, JO. It's not so terrible to reach erroneous conclusions, it's only bad when you cling to them.

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Pity would be no more,
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SIGNYM

Sunday, December 5, 2021 1:40 AM (P)

Apparently, not only did the Russian ad agency accused by Mueller of interfering in the 2016 elections show up for it's day in court ... causing the DOJ to withdraw it's case... so did AlfaBank, which had been accused of secretly communicating with a Trump Tower server.

The parties at the other end of the lawsuit-FusionGPS et al, -are taking a playbook from Hillary Clinton, hiding evidence etc.

Special Counsel Durham found those hidden emails, and Alfa is petitioning the court to have them introduced as evidence.

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Special Counsel Durham Found The E-Mails Fusion GPS Tried To Hide

Saturday, Dec 04, 2021 - 01:37 PM

Authored by Techno Fog via The Reactionary,

Back in May, we reported on the fight brewing in a DC federal court, where Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson were trying to keep secret their internal correspondence and records relating to their role in pushing the Alfa Bank/Trump hoax. New court filings indicate Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson improperly failed to disclose some of their most damning e-mails.

Overview

For background, the fight arises out of a lawsuit – Fridman, et al. (Alfa Bank) v. Bean LLC a/k/a Fusion GPS, and Glenn Simpson, where the owners of Alfa Bank have sued Fusion GPS and Simpson for falsely accusing “the Plaintiffs—and Alfa (“Alfa”), a consortium in which the Plaintiffs are investors—of criminal conduct and alleged cooperation with the ‘Kremlin’ to influence the 2016 presidential election.”

The case was filed in October 2017. Litigation has been ongoing for over four years – with Alfa Bank still fighting to obtain written discovery from Fusion GPS that is material to its case. Our previous report had to do with that very discovery dispute. Back in May, Alfa Bank “filed a motion to compel, asking the Court to require Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson to produce nearly 500 critically important documents improperly withheld as privileged.” (More background here.)

These documents included e-mail correspondence within Fusion GPS regarding the “Alfa Playbook” and showed the early development of the Fusion GPS/Simpson work on Trump/Russia. One would assume this entails the early or emerging thought process of the “intelligence” group as they sought to falsely accuse the Trump campaign of colluding with Russia.

In a later post from July 2021, we observed that records indicated Fusion GPS had been in contact with Michael Sussmann of Perkins Coie regarding Alfa Bank. More communications Fusion GPS is trying to keep secret.

What nobody realized at the time, however, was the importance of these communications. Michael Sussmann – the DNC/Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer – would later face false statement charges and be basically accused of being part of a conspiracy to defraud the federal government with respect to the Trump/Alfa Bank allegations.
The Latest Developments

Today, the attorneys for Alfa Bank filed this their “Supplement to Plaintiffs’ Second Motion to Compel Defendants to Produce Documents Improperly Withheld as Privileged.” The motion was filed to inform the court that Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson (and/or their attorneys) “possess numerous documents responsive to Plaintiffs’ RFPs [requests for production] that [Fusion/Simpson] neither produced nor included in their privilege log.”

[Brief interlude: generally, the parties request and exchange documents in a federal civil case like this. A party can avoid producing documents where they claim a privilege – they just need to typically submit a “privilege log” to the other side. This doesn’t mean the privilege will ultimately prevail.]

What does the latest filing by Alfa Bank reveal?

Fusion GPS/Glenn Simpson (or their attorneys) failed to submit in the privilege log certain communications ultimately uncovered by Special Counsel John Durham. I’ll let the Alfa Bank motion explain:

In other words, Fusion GPS/Simpson deliberately withheld the disclosure of these e-mails in their privilege log. The very e-mails that very likely point to a conspiracy to push the Alfa Bank/Trump hoax by Perkins Coi

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:30 AM (P)

lol

You mean they had no case in the first place?

Imagine that, huh?

I'll bet CNN is writing its apology letter to the American People as we speak.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, December 5, 2021 2:59 PM (P)

I don't understand why ppl don't see the pattern with Shillary.

Whitewater investigation: critical box of evidence goes "missing". VinceFoster commits "suicide". Investigation closes and box turns up the following day.

Use of non-govt emailer by Scy State. 33,000 emails get wiped ("like, with a cloth?") and DOJ orders aides' mobile phones to be destroyed so none can be recovered.

That's not mentioning the Clinton "death roll" of everyone who might testify to Bill's sex activities, ending with Epstein. (But then I bet a lot of ppl wanted him dead. Can't lay that one at the Clinton's feet, particularly.)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:50 PM (P)

They intentionally don't see it. And their "news" sources are happy to let them think that anyone who would suggest it is an alt-Right racist or misogynist or put your "phobe" here.

All I've got to say is that woman and her family had better hope there's not a god.

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SIGNYM

Friday, January 28, 2022 12:43 PM (P)

Quote:
What Did Clinton Know and When Did She Know It? The Russiagate Evidence Builds
[against Hillary]

As indictments and new court filings indicate that Special Counsel John Durham is investigating Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for feeding false reports to the FBI to incriminate Donald Trump and his advisers as Kremlin agents, Clinton’s role in the burgeoning scandal remains elusive. What did she know and when did she know it?
AP Photo/Dmitri Lovetsky
AP

Top officials involved in her campaign have repeatedly claimed, some under oath, that they and the candidate were unaware of the foundation of their disinformation campaign: the 35-page collection of now debunked claims of Trump/Russia collusion known as the Steele dossier. Even though her campaign helped pay for the dossier, they claim she only read it after BuzzFeed News published it in 2017.

But court documents, behind-the-scenes video footage and recently surfaced evidence reveal that Clinton and her top campaign advisers were much more involved in the more than $1 million operation to dredge up dirt on Trump and Russia than they have let on. The evidence suggests that the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory sprang from a multi-pronged effort within the Clinton campaign, which manufactured many of the false claims, then fed them to friendly media and law enforcement officials. Clinton herself was at the center of these efforts, using her personal Twitter account and presidential debates to echo the false claims of Steele and others that Trump was in cahoots with the Russians.

Although Clinton has not been pressed by major media on her role in Russiagate, a short scene in the 2020 documentary “Hillary” suggests she was aware of the effort. It shows Clinton speaking to her running mate, Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, and his wife, Anne, in hushed tones about Trump and Russia in a back room before a campaign event in early October 2016. Clinton expressed concerns over Trump’s “weird connections” to Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin. She informed Kaine that she and her aides were “scratching hard” to expose them, a project Kaine seemed to be hearing about for the first time.

“I don’t say this lightly,” Clinton whispered, pausing to look over her shoulder, "[but Trump’s] agenda is other people’s agenda.”

We’re scratching hard, trying to figure it out,” she continued. "He is the vehicle, the vessel for all these other people.”

The two then discussed “all these weird connections” between the Trump campaign and Russia. Kaine brought up former Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort, and Clinton expressed suspicion about Trump’s then-national security adviser, ret. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, "who is a paid tool for Russian television.”

Added Clinton: “This is what scares me … the way that Putin has taken over the political apparatus, or is trying to — .”

MORE AT https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/01/27/what_did_c
linton_know_about_the_russiagate_smear_and_when_did_she_know_it_the_evidence_builds_813739.html

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1KIKI

Saturday, January 29, 2022 1:43 AM (P)

Ronnie had early Alzheimer's, Dubya seemed brain-damaged from too much partying, Hillary looked drugged, and Joe* is ... well ... Joe*.

I'm not sure I'd credit Hillary with being a RUSSIA!!!gate mastermind. She may have just been a meat puppet. Maybe she was a willing meat puppet (if you let us take control, you'll be the next president!) but something looked amiss with her. (And what is it with Americans voting for brain-damaged presidents?)

In any case, I hope ALL the facts come out!

And I hope Durham stays safe.

SIGNYM

Saturday, February 12, 2022 11:33 PM (P)

I wish JO753 was here to read this. But likely life has him by the balls... as it does so many ideologies... and is teaching him different life lessons. Which I hope he survives.

Quote:
We previously discussed how Rodney Joffe (identified as Tech Executive-1 in the Sussmann indictment and in the latest filing discussing the conflict) exploited proprietary – and perhaps classified – data provided by DARPA to further their own political attacks, and how that might result in charges. It was later confirmed that two former DARPA employees have given grand jury testimony, so it appears Durham is following this track.

I provide that background because of what we just learned. Durham also divulged, to an extent, that contractors and tech experts (meaning Joffe and his cohorts) – those same people involved in the Alfa Bank hoax – essentially spied on President Trump.

According to Durham, Joffe and his associates exploited internet data from “the Executive Office of the President of the United States” to further their own political agenda. They had come to possess this data as part of a “sensitive arrangement” with the U.S. government. As Durham explains:...]

MORE AT https://technofog.substack.com/p/durham-clinton-allies-spied-on-the

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, February 12, 2022 11:38 PM (P)

I was just thinking about JO last night. I hope he's doing alright.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, February 12, 2022 11:40 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I was just thinking about JO last night. I hope he's doing alright.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

Me too. Unlike some people here, he's not malicious. Just confused. I feel sorry for him, actually.

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JO753

Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 AM (P)

I'm not confuzed.

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THG

Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:

I'm not confuzed.

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The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/]

Agreed JO

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, February 14, 2022 6:23 AM (P)

It's not a good thing when Ted's got your back.

Glad to see you're hanging in there anyway JO.

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