Some Covid-19 thoughts

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 19, 2021 2:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That entire system is broke. Not just the scientific part.

SECOND: The truth is very different, 6ix.

ALSO SECOND: Science Advances One Funeral at a Time. The Latest Nobel Proves It

Yeah. They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for no reason, right before he started as many wars as GWB did.

Like I said, the entire system is broke.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

1KIKI

Monday, July 19, 2021 2:56 AM (P)

Quote:
www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermect
in-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

"preprint study" To be completely factual, this study was never published. It failed at the 'preprint' stage. So it looks like the preprint step worked.

Whether or not this was a study that merited extra thorough review I couldn't say. There are hundreds of COVID papers published every day, from clinical notes to scientific studies. And that doesn't count the vast number that are rejected at the start from publication and never see the light of day.

IN GENERAL though, nobody gets their paper printed, hence their PhD, or their research grants, by trying to reproduce old studies. Instead they're rewarded for novel studies. So one of the main tenets of reliable scientific knowledge - reproducibility - is unrewarded by the research and publication system.

1KIKI

Monday, July 19, 2021 2:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I suggest Chris Martenson. Altho he's a "self-help financial advisor", his PhD is in pathology, and he's not afraid to delve deeply into the science. He may not always be right, but he's always educational.

https:// m.youtube.com/c/PeakProsperity/videos
I broke the URL so it would display properly

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

You've probably heard the old joke:

internists know nothing about everything
psychiatrists know everything about nothing
pathologists know everything about everything, but too late

1KIKI

Monday, July 19, 2021 3:11 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for no reason, right before he started as many wars as GWB did.

Like I said, the entire system is broke.

To be fair, the Peace Prize isn't like the Nobel prizes in medicine or science: Nobel Prize in Chemistry, Nobel Prize in Physics, and Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. I think it's far more subjective, like the Nobel Prize in Literature.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 19, 2021 3:20 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for no reason, right before he started as many wars as GWB did.

Like I said, the entire system is broke.
To be fair, the Peace Prize isn't like the Nobel prizes in medicine or science: Nobel Prize in Chemistry, Nobel Prize in Physics, and Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. I think it's far more subjective, like the Nobel Prize in Literature.

They should probably change the name then.

Most people think of the Nobel Prize of any type as nothing more than people blowing each other like the Oscars anyhow.

Completely meaningless outside of its given circle.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SECOND

Monday, July 19, 2021 8:18 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for no reason, right before he started as many wars as GWB did.

Like I said, the entire system is broke.
To be fair, the Peace Prize isn't like the Nobel prizes in medicine or science: Nobel Prize in Chemistry, Nobel Prize in Physics, and Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. I think it's far more subjective, like the Nobel Prize in Literature.

They should probably change the name then.

Most people think of the Nobel Prize of any type as nothing more than people blowing each other like the Oscars anyhow.

Completely meaningless outside of its given circle.

Republicans already hated Obama because he was from Kenya, they said. Why Kenya? Oh my:
14 of Trump’s most outrageous ‘birther’ claims - https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/index.htm
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The Nobel Prize made Republicans hate Obama even more than before, so the Prize failed:

Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama failed to achieve what the Nobel committee hoped it would, its ex-secretary has said. Geir Lundestad told the AP news agency that the committee hoped the award would strengthen Mr Obama. Instead, the decision was met with criticism in the US by Republicans. Mr Obama considered not going to pick up the award in Norway's capital, Oslo. "Even many of Obama's supporters believed that the prize was a mistake," he says. "In that sense the committee didn't achieve what it had hoped for".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, July 19, 2021 5:00 PM (P)

War criminal Henry Kissinger got the NOBEL Peace Prize in 1973
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1973/kissinger/facts/

You can't get more ridiculous than that. I think the Nobel "Peace" Prize disqualified itself right there.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 19, 2021 6:22 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for no reason, right before he started as many wars as GWB did.

Like I said, the entire system is broke.
To be fair, the Peace Prize isn't like the Nobel prizes in medicine or science: Nobel Prize in Chemistry, Nobel Prize in Physics, and Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. I think it's far more subjective, like the Nobel Prize in Literature.

They should probably change the name then.

Most people think of the Nobel Prize of any type as nothing more than people blowing each other like the Oscars anyhow.

Completely meaningless outside of its given circle.
Republicans already hated Obama because he was from Kenya, they said. Why Kenya? Oh my:
14 of Trump’s most outrageous ‘birther’ claims - https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/index.htm
l

The Nobel Prize made Republicans hate Obama even more than before, so the Prize failed:

Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama failed to achieve what the Nobel committee hoped it would, its ex-secretary has said. Geir Lundestad told the AP news agency that the committee hoped the award would strengthen Mr Obama. Instead, the decision was met with criticism in the US by Republicans. Mr Obama considered not going to pick up the award in Norway's capital, Oslo. "Even many of Obama's supporters believed that the prize was a mistake," he says. "In that sense the committee didn't achieve what it had hoped for".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34277960

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

You're certainly not changing anybody's mind here.

In fact, with that admission, the committee themselves just let everyone know that they feel that award is nothing more than a tool to control how other people think.

Obama received that award completely without merit. Obama knew it. Even his supporters knew it.

It was a woke award before woke was even in the lexicon.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

THG

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 8:52 PM (P)

DeSantis downplays increase in COVID-19 cases

ORLANDO, Fla. - Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Monday downplayed the recent spike in coronavirus cases in his state, and criticized public health officials who continue to push unvaccinated Americans to get COVID-19 shots.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/desantis-downplays-increase-in
-covid-19-cases/ar-AAMmw61?ocid=msedgntp

THG

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 8:54 PM (P)

Deaths

614,777

THG

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 10:31 PM (P)

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:02 PM (P)

The current 'top 10' per capita new cases are Botswana, UK, Netherlands, Tunisia, Spain, Cuba, Mongolia, Georgia, Libya, and Columbia. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

But the UK, the Netherlands, and Spain are 3 of the top 5, despite vaccination rates of 68%, 68%, and 63%, respectively. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

OBVIOUSLY, something either in addition to, or besides, vaccination rates in going on.

THG

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:08 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The current 'top 10' per capita new cases are Botswana, UK, Netherlands, Tunisia, Spain, Cuba, Mongolia, Georgia, Libya, and Columbia. http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

But the UK, the Netherlands, and Spain are 3 of the top 5, despite vaccination rates of 68%, 68%, and 63%, respectively. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

OBVIOUSLY, something either in addition to, or besides, vaccination rates in going on.

Only about half the populations of the countries you mention are completely vaccinated. Point being, that leaves a lot exposed to still getting sick. This virus is still poised to kill millions more.

T

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:16 PM (P)

But DESPITE all those vaccinations, those countries are THREE OF THE TOP 5 per capita most new cases ON THE PLANET.

Clearly vaccinations aren't the only factor.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 4:27 AM (P)

Will the Corona deaths, possibility of Lockdowns, new Covid mutations dominate the mid term elections?

numbers & graphs, USA, India, Brazil still very high

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/#

Also every nation still goes their own way, the chaos can not be controlled and yet they try...so forget the worldwide coordinated plan.

SECOND

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 5:12 AM (P)

Fox News’s Covid-19 coverage is confusingly both for and against vaccinations, but mostly against

The viral clip of FOX News Host Sean Hannity talking favorably about vaccines came immediately before he pivoted to a story about a college athlete who was temporarily paralyzed after she took a different sort of vaccine in 2019 — the subtext being that inoculations are more dangerous than the experts would have you believe and that mandates are ill-advised. (Hannity has previously tried to discredit Covid-19 vaccines by saying stuff like, “the great Dr. Fauci has been wrong so often” and proclaiming he was “beginning to have doubts” about getting the shot.)

As Matt Gertz detailed for Media Matters, Hannity’s favorable comments were sandwiched between shows anchored by Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham that both pushed vaccine misinformation:

On Monday, Carlson revived his lie about a government database purportedly showing thousands of deaths from the vaccines and urged viewers to ignore journalists who are encouraging vaccination because they want to “make you comply,” over on-screen graphics reading “MANY VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE HOSPITALIZED” and “OUR LEADERS WANT US TO SHUT UP & NOT ASK QUESTIONS.” Ingraham’s broadcast likewise stressed reasons to question “the efficacy of the vaccine itself among adults.”

It’s true that Hannity was not the only Fox News personality to speak out on behalf of vaccines on Monday. While Hannity stopped sort of explicitly asking his viewers to get vaccinated, Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy went further and said, “If you have the chance, get the shot. It will save your life.”

But Doocy was undermined by his co-host Brian Kilmeade, who claimed in response that it’s not the government’s job “to protect anybody” and said of those who choose not to get vaccinated, “if you feel as though this is not something for you, don’t do it, but don’t affect my life.” (A person’s choice to not get vaccinated does in fact affect other people by making it more possible for deadlier mutations of the virus to develop.)

https://www.vox.com/22585354/hannity-fox-news-covid-19-coverage

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 7:37 AM (P)

lol

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SECOND

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 8:19 AM (P)

Millions of Americans are now demonstrating their loyalty to Trump and their tribe by risking their lives, and the lives others, as they refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 -- despite the fact that Trump himself reportedly received the vaccine in January.

Vaccine skepticism has been a problem in Trump country as the government races to defeat the virus by using inoculation to achieve so-called "herd immunity." As president Trump had modeled anti-science skepticism by generally refusing to wear a face mask and ridiculing the top pandemic advisor, Dr. Anthony Fauci. He held mass campaign rallies against expert advice, was so effective in politicizing the pandemic that even after he publicly agreed the vaccines were safe, his followers lagged in taking it.

The bond Trump forged with his followers was created in large part by his appeal to their pre-existing resentment of elites, including experts on everything from climate change to medicine (Remember how he mused about treating Covid-19 infections with light and disinfectant?). Republicans have played this game for years, which may explain why GOP voters have far less confidence in science than Democrats. Indeed, as historian Naomi Oreskes noted recently, GOP spokespeople have criticized scientists for decades and even invented controversies to challenge experts on concerns such as climate change. With the pandemic the mindset created by the anti-expert drumbeat made it natural for Republican governors to resist scientists who called for life-saving measures like mask mandates for public spaces.

In the case of vaccines, even the fact that they were developed with funds provided by the Trump administration doesn't seem to have much effect. A Washington Post-ABCNews poll released two weeks ago found that while 93 percent of Democrats either have gotten their shots or plan to, only 49 percent of Republicans fall into the same category. Although income was also related to attitudes about the shot, with less-wealthy people showing more skepticism, this factor was not nearly as important as was loyalty to the GOP and Trump.

Anecdotally, it can seem as if vaccine resistance has become part of the culture of resentment that Trump exploited in his campaigns. After years of hearing their man demonize the media, Trump's followers may reflexively tune-out information that could save their lives. When political consultant Frank Luntz convened a focus group to discuss vaccines, one woman said, "A lot of the hesitancy that's coming from the right is just from being bullied, being humiliated, basically, by the media," adding, "I don't really see the point in getting it if nothing is going to change, and I haven't gotten sick."

As regions of under-vaccinated Trump Country experience surges in cases, many in right-wing media are fighting against the government's best efforts to save people from a virus that has already killed 600,000 Americans. Pro-Trump activist Charlie Kirk went on Fox News recently to compare vaccine guidelines to apartheid in South Africa. Meanwhile Fox News opinion hosts have repeatedly misrepresented government policy as they have the vaccine effort. Though notably, Sean Hannity issued an impassioned plea Monday night for his viewers to take Covid seriously, and to consider taking the vaccine.

Like supporting Trump's Big Lie that says the last election was stolen from him, opposition to the vaccine may be shaping up to be a requirement for those who would claim to remain on Team Trump. That this stance requires taking a dramatic risk -- one's own life -- aligns with the type of thinking that led so many of his followers to heed his call to come to Washington, DC, and then attack the Capitol with the hope of stopping the final certification of the election results.

In both cases, Trumpists caught up in something akin to LARPing will inevitably encounter real life consequences in the form of prison terms, hospital stays, or even funerals. Their enablers and defen

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 1:08 PM (P)

Politics the reason Canada has surpassed U.S. on COVID vaccines, Fauci says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fauci-us-canada-vaccines-1.6109362

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Total COVID-19 cases rise to 71 at Tokyo Olympics
https://apnews.com/article/sports-2020-tokyo-olympics-health-tokyo-cor
onavirus-pandemic-3d7dcb39c13fabdd8cdf9ecd1b2ee3ef

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 2:01 PM (P)

Quote:
The White House has decided to hit back harder on misinformation and scare tactics after Republican lawmakers and conservative activists pledged to fight the administration’s stated plans to go “door-to-door” to increase vaccination rates. The pushback will include directly calling out social media platforms and conservative news shows that promote such tactics.

“The big misinterpretation that Fox News or whomever else is saying is that they are essentially envisioning a bunch of federal workers knocking on your door, telling you you've got to do something that you don't want to do,” Anthony Fauci, President Biden’s chief medical adviser, said in an interview on Sunday. “That's absolutely not the case, it's trusted messengers who are part of the community doing that — not government officials. So that's where I think the disconnect is.”...

... Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages. The goal is to ensure that people who may have difficulty getting a vaccination because of issues like transportation see those barriers lessened or removed entirely.

“We are steadfastly committed to keeping politics out of the effort to get every American vaccinated so that we can save lives and help our economy further recover,” White House spokesperson Kevin Munoz said. “When we see deliberate efforts to spread misinformation, we view that as an impediment to the country's public health and will not shy away from calling that out.”

The pushback is a change of tone and approach from earlier this year, when the White House often chose to ignore its most vocal conservative critics out of a desire not to elevate them. It is a tacit acknowledgment that the July 4 goal of 70 percent vaccination nationwide was overly optimistic, if not naive. And it underscores that two realities are setting in: It’s becoming more difficult to convince vaccine-skeptics to get their shots (of the 10 least vaccinated states, all were won by Donald Trump in 2020) and the anti-vaccine voices, already vocal in the country, are becoming more mainstreamed by Republicans eager to oppose Biden-led initiatives.
MORE AT https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/12/biden-covid-vaccination-campa
ign-499278

About the Politico article

1) I'm not sure that "trusted advisors" sounds any better than "government officials". In fact, it sounds creepier.

2) Am I the only one to catch the irony of the article bringing up "conservatives" and "Donald Trump" immediately after the call to "keep politics out" of the vaccination drive?

3) This desire of the DNC to control EVERYTHING tells me that they're still desperately trying to dislodge Trump from the political equation, and everything they've tried hadn't worked. It's like Brexit in Britain: that un-dislodgeable stone that the Liberals tried so hard to get rid of, but which they kept stumbling on over and over.

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The way I see it, the DNC is going to try and pin the Delta variant resurgence as well as the economic fallout on "conservatives" and "Donald Trump", and they're going to try to pin the mess we will be in by 2022 on the GOP.

Altho Trump pushed for rapid vaccine development and reportedly was vaccinated himself, his supporters have backed themselves into a corner by being so anti-vaxx that fallout from the Delta variant can be pinned on them, and made it impossible for Trump to try and steer his supporters in a different direction.

So now we have two entrely

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 21, 2021 6:23 PM (P)

Until the day Trump dies, there won't be anything that Second won't blame on Trump.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SECOND

Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:13 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Until the day Trump dies, there won't be anything that Second won't blame on Trump.

Trump is not to blame all by himself, no more than the team coach is all to blame when the local sports team loses. Trump is the face of team Trumptard, but the blame for American failures actually should be shared by the 74,216,154 who voted for him as their fat and funny looking mascot.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:16 PM (P)

MACRON: “I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.”

In France, those who do not get vaccinated will no longer be able to go to restaurants, cafés, cinemas and museums and get on airplanes or trains. Alternatively, they will have to submit a negative test, which will no longer be free (€49 for the PCR, €29 for the antigen).

“We cannot make those who have the civic sense to get vaccinated bear the burden of inconvenience. The restrictions will weigh on others, those who for reasons incomprehensible in the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment still hesitate to use the only weapon available against the pandemic, the vaccine.”

Before you forward this to someone else as it was forwarded to me, please note that Macron apparently never said any of that (and has no daughters).

https://globalnews.ca/news/8046944/macron-unvaccinated-stay-home-fake/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:22 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Until the day Trump dies, there won't be anything that Second won't blame on Trump.
Trump is not to blame all by himself, no more than the team coach is all to blame when the local sports team loses. Trump is the face of team Trumptard, but the blame for American failures actually should be shared by the 74,216,154 who voted for him as their fat and funny looking mascot.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Cool.

Meanwhile, I'll blame the 40,000,000 dead people who voted for Biden* for where we're at now.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
MACRON: “I no longer have any intention of sacrificing my life, my time, my freedom and the adolescence of my daughters, as well as their right to study properly, for those who refuse to be vaccinated. This time you stay at home, not us.”

In France, those who do not get vaccinated will no longer be able to go to restaurants, cafés, cinemas and museums and get on airplanes or trains. Alternatively, they will have to submit a negative test, which will no longer be free (€49 for the PCR, €29 for the antigen).

“We cannot make those who have the civic sense to get vaccinated bear the burden of inconvenience. The restrictions will weigh on others, those who for reasons incomprehensible in the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment still hesitate to use the only weapon available against the pandemic, the vaccine.”

Before you forward this to someone else as it was forwarded to me, please note that Macron apparently never said any of that (and has no daughters).

https://globalnews.ca/news/8046944/macron-unvaccinated-stay-home-fake/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

If you actually read the article, it looks like everything about that post was true except for the bit about his daughters.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

SECOND

Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:43 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If you actually read the article, it looks like everything about that post was true except for the bit about his daughters.

Does that mean you agree with “We cannot make those who have the civic sense to get vaccinated bear the burden of inconvenience. The restrictions will weigh on others, those who for reasons incomprehensible in the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment still hesitate to use the only weapon available against the pandemic, the vaccine.”

Since America is NOT "the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment" why get vaccinated?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:53 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If you actually read the article, it looks like everything about that post was true except for the bit about his daughters.
Does that mean you agree with “We cannot make those who have the civic sense to get vaccinated bear the burden of inconvenience. The restrictions will weigh on others, those who for reasons incomprehensible in the country of Louis Pasteur, science and the Enlightenment still hesitate to use the only weapon available against the pandemic, the vaccine.”

Nope. It does not.

I'm speaking of the facts presented in the article. Not the editorialism.

Learn the difference, or shut the fuck up.

Thank you.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:55 PM (P)

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

Fuckin' dummies.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:59 PM (P)

I guess Biden* doesn't watch the news or pick up a paper.

OPPS

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:12 PM (P)

Biden* is an empty suit whose ability to be programmed is only limited by his dementia. Pointing out his errors and thinking you've won the argument is as silly as thinking you've won the argument against a fence post.

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:27 PM (P)

So, following what you posted, KIKI: If getting vaccinated DOESN'T reduce tranmission (because vaccines are active in deep tissue as opposed to peripheral tissue like nose) then is there is a reason to push for vaccines population-wide?
Because a vaccination program won't stop the spread of Covid, right? But it will stop serious illness and death (for the most part)?

If that's the case, how does the measles vaccine (for example) work to stop epidemics? Doesn't the same logic apply? Or does the measles vaccine just make transmission invisible/inconsequential?

I need a primer on that.

*****

Also, another question, if you may: Once you get infected for real, by the peripheral route, does that mean that you now have a long-term immune response in your periperal tissues as well? (At least, to that particular variant?)

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So, tell me where I'm wrong: If people get vaccinated (which offers protection against serious illness and death) and THEN get exposed to the real deal and have to fend it off one way or another, either asymptomatically ... or not ... isn't that kind of the IDEAL way to create longer-lasting, more complete immunity?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

1KIKI

Friday, July 23, 2021 12:13 AM (P)

I had to look that up because I didn't know.

Measles is interesting immunologically-speaking.

Either infection or vaccination with killed or weakened (attenuated) virus triggers an initial IgM immune response (as is true of infections in general) and an eventual IgG immune response that prevents or reduces disease (ie symptoms) and spread.

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/news-events/news/what-is-measles-why-vac
cinate
"The measles vaccine prevents almost all cases of severe disease."
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/11/skipping-measles-v
accine-tied-triple-risk-disease-spread
"unvaccinated people are about three to four times more infectious than those with measles who have gotten one or two doses"

The vaccine (and I assume infection) also triggers a long-term cell-mediated immunity.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26597262/
"analyses showed low levels of spot-forming cells after stimulation, suggesting the presence of T-cell memory"

It looks like either previous natural infection or vaccination doesn't prevent infection, but does limit disease severity and spread.

The measles vaccine is based on inactivated virus. Maybe that creates a more complete response to the various external proteins of the virus, as opposed to single-protein vaccines.

The OTHER thing that measles infection does is that it wipes out most of your previously-developed immunity to other viral and bacterial diseases, as measured by IgG antibody levels. But vaccination doesn't do that.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/10/how-measles-wipes-out-t
he-bodys-immune-memory/

THG

Friday, July 23, 2021 10:16 PM (P)

Jack=ass should run not swim to get his pizza.

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1KIKI

Friday, July 23, 2021 11:02 PM (P)

I have honestly never read a stupider comment in my life.

THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.

THG

Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:37 AM (P)

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Governor Ivey: 'It's the unvaccinated folks that are letting us down'

THG

Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:43 AM (P)

Jack=ass should run not swim to get his pizza.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I have honestly never read a stupider comment in my life.

THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.

WHO IS THE ‘PIZZA KING’? THE SECRET LANGUAGE BEING USED BY ANTI-VACCINE GROUPS TO SKIRT DETECTION

https://unfoxnews.com/who-is-the-pizza-king-the-secret-language-being-
used-by-anti-vaccine-groups-to-skirt-detection/

Anti-vax Facebook groups are using secret codes like 'dinner party', 'swim team' to dodge crackdowns

https://www.businessinsider.co.za/trending/anti-vaccine-facebook-group
s-secret-codes-misinformation-2021-7

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:31 AM (P)

I don't eat pizza Ted. I'm gluten free.

Anybody who's anti-vaxxing on Facebook is an idiot.

Just don't get the vaccine.

I don't care who gets it. Everybody I care about who was going to get it already did. Nothing I can do about that now. We all eventually get what we deserve in the end.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:38 AM (P)

Study finds that Pfizer vaccine is 88% effective against Delta variant.

In other news...

Doing absolutely nothing is 99.2% effective against the Delta variant.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

SIGNYM

Monday, July 26, 2021 12:22 AM (P)

Quote:
Protesters Rage Across Europe As Lockdown, Vaccination Mandates Begin

Dublin

London: anti vaccine passport, anti lockdown

Paris: anti vaccine passport

Parma

Also Australia.
Altogether 275 protests

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thousands-join-anti-lockdown-prote
sts-australia-amid-new-restrictions

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 26, 2021 2:44 AM (P)

People are going to start dying if they keep doing this.

Not just here. Everywhere.

I'm actually quite proud to see that the human race I belong to isn't as closely related to sheep as I once thought that it was.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

THG

Monday, July 26, 2021 4:11 AM (P)

T

Too Little Too Late For Republicans Finally Advocating Covid Vaccines?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 26, 2021 4:41 AM (P)

They don't need to be doing that.

Nobody else is going to get them anyhow. They never were.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

JO753

Monday, July 26, 2021 6:44 AM (P)

My rite wing frendz hav been trying to make like their info soursez hav been for the vakseen all along. In the real world, its all about the next election and the ownerz uv the FoX/GoP eko chamber finally realized they coud looz big in 2022 if haf their voterz are ded. So, beginning a few weeks ago, they started telling them to get vaksinated.

Wun uv my 'ass oshiates' haz been particularly persistent in sending me links to the Youtube liarz he gets all hiz newz and opinionz from. I'd asked him for proof that they arent agenst the vakseen and insted he tellz me I need to woc them more! I'v had enuf, so I sent him this:

>>> proov. it. Or shut up.

Your clownz spent the the last 15 months downplaying C19, crying agenst masks, skreeming doom & gloom about shutdownz, spewing rediculous conspirasy theoryz, AND regurjitating old antivax garbaj. They are STILL railing agenst Dr Faucci even wile finally telling their viewerz/voterz to get the shot.

Find 1 video from Desember to April from each uv your gize in wich they recommend getting vaksinated. And not just slip in a litl comment like 'i think its a good idea' and then bak to calling Biden a vejtable and Faucci evil.

And if you send me junk, dont bother sending any more kuz I will delete without openning. <<<

Feel free to uze any uv that to counter your own rite wing GulliBullz, Trumptardz and jeneral idiots.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 26, 2021 8:31 AM (P)

I wouldn't know. I don't watch right wing news.

I'm never getting the vaccine, so fuck you if you don't like it, JO.

You can double up and take mine. I hear that the first one doesn't work. Maybe two will do it for you.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 26, 2021 6:36 PM (P)

"Just take these shots and it will all be over. You won't get sick and you won't have to wear a mask anymore. But you're still going to get sick and I sure hope you didn't throw that mask away.

BTW... Here's another shot."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/delta-variant-surge-unvaccinated-deepl
y-dr-vivek-murthy/story?id=78902909

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 26, 2021 6:48 PM (P)

Oh... and in what world does 161 Million vaccinated adults count as 68.8% of the US Population being vaccinated?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-us-tracker/cases
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-optimism-countrys-direction-
year-drops-20-points/story?id=79036435&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_heads_hero_live_hero_hed

328 Million Americans. - 23 Million five years and under, - 25 Million under 18 = 280 Million Adults.

161 Million of 280 Million is 57.5%

Oh...

68.8% got "at least one dose".

Why only one shot? What are you waiting for? The apocalypse?

These things aren't epoxy. You can't take your toes out of the water after you've already dipped them in. If you got that first shot you've already lost your choice, so you might as well just embrace it.

Liars.

Nobody's getting the shots anymore and they're throwing them out by the truckload because they have an extremely short shelf life.

There certainly is not 31.6 Million adult Americans right now who have only gotten one shot, because at no time since vaccinations started rolling out have anywhere near 31.6 Million adult Americans gotten vaccinated in a two week period and they've slowed down CONSIDERABLY leading up to the previous two weeks.

They can't even crack 60%, so they're fudging the numbers again.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

JO753

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 1:55 AM (P)

I notist therez alot uv variation and inconsistensy in the stats for the pandemic.

Its bekuz uv the complexity uv reporting wile an event iz in progress. Wun plase sez 600,000 ded, another sez its 620,000. Vaksination persentajez are dependent on total number uv shots, 1 or 2 required, population size and reporting irregularityz.

It woud be bad enuf if everybody wuz pulling in the same direction, but thanks to Trump and the GoP we hav 1/3 uv the nation pulling the rong direction, another 1/3 ded wate, and 1/3 in agreement that getting sik from C19 iz bad.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

The real pandemic solution: http://uvpk.net/

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 3:35 AM (P)

Different places use different criteria for stats. JohnsHopkins only reports 'confirmed' cases and 'confirmed' deaths based on some sort of laboratory testing. World-o-Meter uses reported cases and deaths, which varies country by country. /as an example/

Also, over time, definitions themselves have changed. Early on, the CDC only documented CDC testing-confirmed cases and deaths, shortly afterward, other testing-confirmed cases and deaths, and then later allowed clinically diagnosed cases and deaths to be counted.

I also want to point out how the m$m is playing fast and loose with the 'news'. Vaccines are a good example. Originally, there was some scattered, brief notice in the news that vaccine 'effectiveness' was measured against serious illness and death. But you'd have to read a LOT of news very carefully to get that information. There was also some very minor notice that vaccines aren't 100% effective, that there would be breakthrough infections. But again, you'd have to read a lot very thoroughly to pick up on that.

But when the vaccines were reported to be ~95% effective, that part about "SERIOUS ILLNESS AND DEATH ENDPOINTS" was CAREFULLY LEFT OUT, along with the possibility of "BREAKTHROUGH INFECTIONS", along with VARIANTS. People were left to assume effectiveness was against illness, that the percentage ineffective was vanishingly small, and that they were the total solution that would free us all in one fell swoop.

And then, there's the false certainty all of this was reported with.

All this was to herd us into thinking of the vaccines as a certainty that meant that Hallelujah! We are SAVED! by a miracle !!!, and gently stampede us into getting vaccinations when they became available.

And when the real good news about the vaccines being ~95% effective AGAINST ILLNESS (against the initial strain) came out, people were confused about what they thought they initially knew. Wha' the ... ... wait??! Isn't that what they were talking about earlier? That eroded a chunk of trust. When breakthrough infections occurred, it had to be carefully explained that no vaccine is 100%. Not making that explicitly clear up front and having to backpedal after-the-fact eroded another chunk of trust. Then the delta variant came around, with different orgs (again) confusing what the endpoints for vaccine 'effectiveness' were, and reporting a wide variety of fudged figures (vaccinated v fully vaccinated v eligible v population-wide v cases v serious illness v deaths) - most figures included any level of vaccination of eligible people (varies by country). So for example, when Israel was reported as one of the most vaccinated countries on the planet at ~65% vaccination, that figure applied to any level of vaccination of people 16 years or older only, not fully vaccinated people, and not in the entire population. And that inconsistent and highly edited reporting lead to another chunk of trust lost.

BTW, news organizations have all this information; but they're reluctant to report anything different than official sources with official pronouncements.

We were propagandized to come flocking to the vaccines as if they were some kind of magic. That's what all the vaccine-related hidden facts and waffled numbers and false certainty were about.

You can't get people's trust if you constantly lie, and hide facts, and bluff, in order to manipulate them. ALL the facts need to be thoroughly reported and explained, no matter how inconvenient or unhappy. ALL changes of metrics need to be put out there often, so that people know what's going on, instead of leaving room for people to make assumptions when they come across a gap or inconsistency. ALL uncertainty and gaps in information need to be admitted.

Another example is the shifting, contradictory message on masks - masks don't work, they do work but masks that protect the wear

THG

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:26 AM (P)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:12 AM (P)

The news has been nothing but contradictory shit since day one.

And I'm just talking about everything outside of Fox News. They're a big enough problem in and of themselves, but none of the Lefty shill outlets can ever agree on anything or even keep their stories straight 3 weeks later.

Why anybody would trust these goof balls is beyond my wisdom. They think of you as cattle because you act like cattle.

Maybe the real problem here is that too many of you like being treated as cattle.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:23 AM (P)

I think I've done a pretty good job outlining how the media fudged COVID-19 facts to deliver the narrative de jour, even when it had to backtrack and reverse itself multiple times.

I HOPE that, with all the specific examples I gave relatively fresh in his memory, JO will realize that just because the government or the m$m or Maddow (same thing) says so, doesn't make it so. And that he understands one needs to consume the media carefully, and to look to a wide variety of sources and countries, and to pay attention to how the story is being altered all the time; and try to sift out the hype from the truth.

There is some truth in there. But you have to work at finding it.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:29 AM (P)

What really needs to happen is people need to take some damn fish oil vitamin supplements on the reg and hope that their terrible diets haven't already fried their brains permanently.

Nobody can remember what they were being told two weeks ago on any given day. It's why people are so easy to lead around.

And those fucking "smart" phones aren't helping anybody out except for the people pulling the strings.

It's just too easy to give up critical thinking and let a quick google search bring you to whatever Snopes and/or Wikipedia is telling you is the truth today.

Fuckin' Muppets.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:48 AM (P)

I think, while people give too much credence when the beliefs of 'their side' are being presented by the media, even guppies learn over time.

US ranks last among 46 countries in trust in media, Reuters Institute report finds
https://www.poynter.org/ethics-trust/2021/us-ranks-last-among-46-count
ries-in-trust-in-media-reuters-institute-report-finds/

Opposing polls
https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/jul/20/opposing-polls/
This month, 21% of those answering Gallup questions said they had a lot of confidence in newspapers. Only 16% say the same thing of TV news. Congress comes in at 12%.
Finland citizens were confident enough. They lead the world in trust in their media with 65%. The last-place finisher worldwide was none other than the United States of America. Only 29% of “news consumers” in this country said they trusted the media. Finishing last means the U.S.A. trailed countries like Turkey, Colombia and Peru.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (P)

You'd think that would be good news...

But it depends on how the questions were worded, what order the questions were asked, and if they were altered a bit based off of how the earlier questions were asked.

It would be very easy to get those results, say, if you were to ask early on if you consider yourself a Democrat or a Republican and then follow that up with a later question asking if you trust Fox News or CNN, respectively.

Only about 2% of the adult population is watching either of them at any given time. But I'd say that 100% of the people who watch Fox News trust Fox News and 100% of the people who watch CNN trust CNN.

Just look around here and consider JSF vs. Second, Ted and JO.

They all believe whatever their respective outlets tell them at any given time, no questions asked. No brain power exerted.

And Ted is a complete idiot, with JO probably being a genius and Second falling somewhere in between. It's not just the stupid people who are responsible for this. Even really smart people love shutting off the ole' noggin once in a while and letting other people do the thinking for them.

What better place to let your brain take much needed vacation from the everyday stresses of life than your very own echo chamber that you've wrapped around yourself like a warm blanket.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

SECOND

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 5:36 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Just look around here and consider JSF vs. Second, Ted and JO.

They all believe whatever their respective outlets tell them at any given time, no questions asked. No brain power exerted.

And Ted is a complete idiot, with JO probably being a genius and Second falling somewhere in between. It's not just the stupid people who are responsible for this. Even really smart people love shutting off the ole' noggin once in a while and letting other people do the thinking for them.

What better place to let your brain take much needed vacation from the everyday stresses of life than your very own echo chamber that you've wrapped around yourself like a warm blanket.

Last night my sister told me that a 20 year old male died of Covid-19 at https://www.stlukeshealth.org/locations/vintage-hospital

On the other hand, 6ixStringJack has said nobody dies of Covid-19. I wonder who is right? Is it my sister, the nurse who works? Or the nutjob who is unemployed and goes by the name 6ix?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:21 PM (P)

A 20 year old did not die of Covid.

Your sister is a liar, and/or a stupid tool for the liars.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 28, 2021 1:17 AM (P)

Cristiano Ronaldo's sister hospitalised with pneumonia from Covid-19 after calling disease ‘the biggest fraud I’ve ever seen’

https://www.rt.com/sport/530399-ronaldo-sister-covid-19/

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 28, 2021 1:51 AM (P)

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 28, 2021 7:29 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Cristiano Ronaldo's sister hospitalised with pneumonia from Covid-19 after calling disease ‘the biggest fraud I’ve ever seen’

https://www.rt.com/sport/530399-ronaldo-sister-covid-19/

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

Covid-19 IS the biggest fraud any of us has ever seen.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 29, 2021 7:53 AM (P)

Vox wants a vaccine mandate.

Fuck Vox.

https://www.vox.com/2021/7/28/22594637/vaccine-mandates-covid-19-masks
-delta-variants

How long do you suppose one of these Lefty missing-link media outfits makes one of my other predictions true and starts calling the unvaccinated Bio-Terrorists?

And who will it be first? Vox? Mother Jones? Salon? Buzzfeed?

It won't be CNN or MSNBC. They'll jump on after it starts, but they're not ballzy enough to throw that stone first.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 29, 2021 7:58 AM (P)

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:00 AM (P)

Keep pushing, Biden*

The more you push, the more you can't pretend that I was right all along about what your goals were from the beginning.

Quote:
From now on, everyone working for the federal government will be asked for their vaccine papers and all undocumented federal workers and contractors “will be required to wear a mask on the job no matter their geographic location, physically distance from all other employees and visitors, comply with a weekly or twice weekly screening testing requirement, and be subject to restrictions on official travel.” If you think these are draconian measures, you are right, and that is precisely the point. In a moment of candor, “Biden aides” admitted to their friends at CNN that the goal “is to render being unvaccinated so burdensome that those who haven’t received shots will have little choice other than to get them.”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/joe-biden-vaccination-requirem
ent-announcement/index.html

Unless you actually PLAN to have a variant of Covid unleashed on us that wipes out everyone who refuses you, your career is dead. Kiss it goodbye.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:05 AM (P)

You'd also better add at least three more zeros to that $100 if you want me to even entertain the notion of the jab.

It would probably take four though.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 31, 2021 3:12 AM (P)

Yup...

Literally everything short of a mandate is the plan now. Do every single thing possible that will keep it from legally being considered a mandate.

Quote:
The White House had previously indicated it would support private companies' decisions to mandate Covid-19 vaccinations, but Biden took it a step further on Thursday, saying that he'd like to see companies, states and schools move in the direction of requiring Covid-19 vaccination.

"We're not forcing you to do anything, but if you ever even think about leaving your house, even for food or to make money to buy food, you'd better have a fucking vaccine".

~Joe Biden*

Do it Joe.*

See where it gets you.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

THG

Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:01 AM (P)

Las Vegas casino worker and father of 5 dies from COVID-19, texts fiancée: 'I should have gotten the damn vaccine'

Michael Freedy, a Las Vegas casino worker and father of 5, died from COVID-19 on Thursday.
From the hospital, he texted his fiancée: "I should have gotten the damn vaccine."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/las-vegas-casino-worker-and-f
ather-of-5-dies-from-covid-19-texts-fianc%C3%A9e-i-should-have-gotten-the-damn-vaccine/ar-AAMLpyl?ocid=msedgntp

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1KIKI

Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:51 AM (P)

Quote:

Las Vegas casino worker and father of 5 dies from COVID-19, texts fiancée: 'I should have gotten the damn vaccine'
T

You, uh, happy that someone died?

SIGNYM

Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:05 AM (P)

Yep, he should have gotten the damn vaccine. As a casino worker, he prolly came into contact with hundreds of people a day, putting him at high risk of exposure. But it's his choice. He rolled the dice and got bad luck.

*****

If it were me running the show, my message would be this:

The virus is constantly evolving. So far, it seems to be evolving in the direction of high transmissibility but lower lethality. The vaccines do a good job of protecting you from serious illness but aren't effective at preventing transmission.

If you're at risk of getting seriously ill- over 50, obese, or with X,Y,Z risk factors, or you're occupationally exposed to a lot of people, I urge you to get a vaccine. If you take care of someone who is vulnerable, please try to get them vaccinated. If you're still concerned about catching the virus, N95s will be made available.

If you choose not to get vaccinated or wear mask, go about your regular business. There will be no lockdowns and no mask mandate.

But because this virus is constantly evolving, we continue to track its behavior and the effectiveness of the current vaccines and also possible treatments for the disease. If the virus evolves into something more deadly, and booster shots or other measures needs to be taken, we'll let you know.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:17 AM (P)

Quote:
TED:
Las Vegas casino worker and father of 5 dies from COVID-19, texts fiancée: 'I should have gotten the damn vaccine'

Nope. He didn't die of Covid-19.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You, uh, happy that someone died?

Yes. Ted is celebrating this man's death.

Ted is a sociopath.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 31, 2021 12:28 PM (P)

So is everybody just going to ignore the fact that the Biden* administration is going to try forcing through a vaccine mandate without officially forcing through a vaccine mandate?

It's still going to be a Constitutional crisis on his hands no matter how they try to spin it.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:50 PM (P)

LOL

OPPS

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

SIGNYM

Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:31 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So is everybody just going to ignore the fact that the Biden* administration is going to try forcing through a vaccine mandate without officially forcing through a vaccine mandate?

It's still going to be a Constitutional crisis on his hands no matter how they try to spin it.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

If Biden lets business take the reins in requiring vaccinations, there will be no "Constitutional crisis". Please tone down the hyperbole.*

You should be horrified at the [even more] control that's being put in business' hands.

*BTW, you've GOT to stop getting your "news" from Memology101. You can't possily get valuable info in a 9-second clip. It's just like THUGR posting cartoons: All opinion, no facts.

*****
I'm more concerned with the censorship that's being used to promote this...

Quote:
Twitter Suspends Science Writer After He Posts Results Of Pfizer Clinical Test

Just yesterday, we discussed the censoring of a commentator by Twitter for merely expressing an opinion over the need for a “pause” on any federal mandates on Covid-19 as new research is studied.

Now, a former New York Times science reporter, Alex Berenson, has been suspended for simply quoting the results from a clinical trial by Pfizer and raising questions over any vaccine mandate. In the meantime, the White House accused both the Washington Post and New York Times of irresponsible reporting on Covid, but surprisingly Twitter has not suspended those accounts. It is the license of the censor. Twitter is unwilling to let people read or discuss viewpoints that it disagrees with as a corporation. Many on the left, however, have embraced the concept of corporate speech and censorship. It turns out that the problem with censorship for many was the failure to censor views that they opposed. With the “right” censors at work, the free speech concerns have been set aside.

I have little ability to judge the science on such questions. However, I welcome the debate. Yet, rather than answer such critics and refute their arguments, many people focus on silencing anyone with dissenting viewpoints like Berenson.

Berenson has been effectively confined to Substack by Big Tech due to his discussing dissenting views on the science surrounding Covid-19. His latest offense against Big Tech came when he posted the results published by Pfizer of its own clinical data. He claimed that the research showed little difference in morality between those in the trial with a vaccine and those given a placebo.

https://jonathanturley.org/2021/07/31/twitter-suspends-science-writer-
after-he-posts-results-of-pfizer-clinical-test/

I hope the image comes thru. The post was that "15 patients who received the vaccine die. 14 patients who received the placebo died"

There is something truly hinky about those statistics.

KIKI, I'm sure you've already figured it out. Let's see if anyone else does.

Despite the fact that the figures are truly misleading, nonetheless they should be brought out in the open and discussed, not censored.

But they're censoring EVERYTHING, not just news about Covid-19.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 2:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Biden lets business take the reins in requiring vaccinations, there will be no "Constitutional crisis". Please tone down the hyperbole.*

Not hyperbole.

If you cannot live in America without a shot because businesses are allowed to make it so that you cannot work or eat without one, that is NO different than the government forcing you to get one.

Don't play games.

The people who start shooting everything up if that time comes to pass certainly won't be.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:55 AM (P)

Signy

The tweet outright states that the vax does NOT reduce the risk of dying from COVID-19.

Quote:
The pivotal clinical trial for the @pfizer #Covid vaccine shows it does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. ZERO.

15 patients who received the vaccine died, 14 who received the placebo died

How could this happen???!!!! How could we be so misled??!!!

Trying to puzzle this out, a first glance, I noticed missing numbers.

Quote:
15 patients who received the vaccine died, 14 who received the placebo died

15 out of how many ... ? 14 out of how many ... ?
Since there are definitely missing numbers, and missing context, this is hard to interpret.

It required a deeper dig.

I looked most assiduously for the quote tweeted, but didn't find anything.

So I went back to the original tweet by typing in
https://t.co/0rVYHRTjpm
and found it =
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1420839456228118535 .

And I clicked on the photo within and found this

Quote:
During the blinded, controlled period, 15 BNT162b2 and 14 placebo recipients died; during the open label period 3 BNT162b2 and 2 original placebo recipients who received BNT162b2 after unblinding died. None of these deaths were considered related to BNT162b2 by investigators. Causes of death were balanced between BNT162b2 and placebo groups (Table S4).

By entering the full quote into the search engine, no quotes (to account for any formatting characters) I came up with this:

Quote:
https://www.scribd.com/document/517713886/2021-07-28-21261159v1-full
Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine

Reading it, I found that the quote OBVIOUSLY addressed the safety portion of the trial, looking to see if people who received the vax were at any more risk of dying than people who didn't. And the vax was deemed as safe as getting a placebo. OBVIOUSLY the tweet was a HIGHLY edited snippet, with the author's comments that outright lied about its meaning.

Anyway, I also looked into this (non provided link) source:

Quote:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261159v1
Six Month Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine

The twit could have provided links to sources, but chose not to. For some strange reason ...

I general I agree with you. Private entities should not be censoring public discussions.

That said, Berenson was beyond shameful. And anything that comes from him should be looked at with deep distrust, since he knows no boundaries when it comes to lying.

cross posted to 'new deadly ...' thread

SIGNYM

Sunday, August 1, 2021 5:56 AM (P)

Quote:
SIGNYM:
If Biden lets business take the reins in requiring vaccinations, there will be no "Constitutional crisis". Please tone down the hyperbole.*

SIX: Not hyperbole.

Uh huh.

Quote:
SIX: If you cannot live in America without a shot because businesses are allowed to make it so that you cannot work or eat without one, that is NO different than the government forcing you to get one.

Don't play games.

The people who start shooting everything up if that time comes to pass certainly won't be.

uh huh

Yanno, if you can't make a point without threats of violence, maybe you don't have a point to make.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

SIGNYM

Sunday, August 1, 2021 6:06 AM (P)

Quote:
That said, Berenson was beyond shameful. And anything that comes from him should be looked at with deep distrust, since he knows no boundaries when it comes to lying.

There is massive lying ON BOTH SIDES. And unfortunately there are gullible people ON BOTH SIDES who believe the lies

I didn't look into as deeply as you did. I immediately stumbled over the fact that the tweet appeared to be saying that 14 people got the shot, all got Covid-19 and died, while 15people got the placebo, all got Covid-19 and died.

I assumed it was a much more innocent mistake, something about population selection.

I didn't realize Berenson was as big a LIAR as SECONDRATE and GSTRING.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 6:32 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SIGNYM:
If Biden lets business take the reins in requiring vaccinations, there will be no "Constitutional crisis". Please tone down the hyperbole.*

SIX: Not hyperbole.
Uh huh.

Quote:
SIX: If you cannot live in America without a shot because businesses are allowed to make it so that you cannot work or eat without one, that is NO different than the government forcing you to get one.

Don't play games.

The people who start shooting everything up if that time comes to pass certainly won't be.
uh huh

Yanno, if you can't make a point without threats of violence, maybe you don't have a point to make.

I didn't threaten violence.

It's already established that I could go the next 5 or 6 years without making a dime and I'll be alright. Only then would I have to resort to using my massive amount of credit at my disposal with my 820+ credit score.

Unlike millions... possibly tens of millions of other people who won't get the shot, I've got plenty of time to wait this out. And with many years of near-agoraphobic behavior under my belt, it won't take too much adjusting to slide right back into that mode of operation.

Are you denying the fact that crazy people with guns aren't all around just looking for a reason?

Just be on high-alert whenever you go out is all I'm saying. If you put everybody's back against the wall, there's going to be a Vegas nutjob on every corner.

All the ones killing themselves right now are the ones with too much of a conscience to bring others along to meet their maker.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 6:36 AM (P)

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 6:44 AM (P)

CNN is now saying we need to bar people from working or buying food if they aren't vaccinated.

Keep telling me I'm making this shit up and/or being hyperbolic, Sigs.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:14 AM (P)

But finding the full facts about SARS-CoV-2 delta in the m$m is almost as much of a chore.

I've been somewhat researching SARS-CoV-2 delta and came across apparently conflicting data.

This data from a study by the Kaiser Family Foundation using public sources indicated that, at most, 0.9% of fully vaccinated people will catch SARS-CoV-2 delta, with at most 0.06% hospitalized, and 0.0% deaths. And that means that virtually all infections, and hospitalizations, and all deaths, will occur in the unvaccinated. (It also indicated that the CDC stopped tracking breakthrough infections in July 2021. Who knew? But that's why KFF had to compile data from states that track the data.)

Quote:
COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases: Data from the States
https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-cases-d
ata-from-the-states/

Percent of Fully Vaccinated Individuals That Have Experienced a COVID-19 Breakthrough Event (interactive graph not able to be linked)

But then there's this:

Quote:
Three-quarters of people infected in Provincetown outbreak were vaccinated, CDC finds
https://www.pressherald.com/2021/07/30/cdc-finds-most-people-in-delta-
fueled-provincetown-outbreak-were-vaccinated/
The report on the Massachusetts cases, from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, offers key evidence bolstering the hypothesis that vaccinated people can spread the more transmissible variant and may be a factor in the summer surge of infections.
The full outbreak, which began over the July 4 holiday weekend, is close to 900 cases, but the analysis included only a subset of 469 cases. About three-quarters of infections occurred in people who were fully vaccinated, and that group had received vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson. ... 79% of vaccinated breakthrough infections were symptomatic. Four of five people who were hospitalized were fully vaccinated.

This is just one link among many about this topic, but this one was particularly complete.

And there's this about the same incident:

Quote:
Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others
https://apnews.com/article/science-health-coronavirus-pandemic-d950451
9a8ae081f785ca012b5ef84d1

Though this AP story isn't as complete, it did link a CDC study.

The linked CDC study was a statistical reporting of the outbreak:

Quote:
Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

Looking over all of this, there are definitely missing numbers:

Quote:
469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

The number of vaccinated/ infected is out of how many vaccinated/ exposed? If a few thousand vaccinated were exposed, and only a few hundred were infected; and only a few hundred were unvaccinated and exposed, but a few hundred of those became ill, that would put a different meaning into the numbers.

To be fair, those numbers - vaccinated and unvaccinated plus exposed - aren't provided because they aren't known. What is known is that statewide, the vax rate is about 70%. But that number may be percent vaccinated of vaccine-eligible population (age, occupation, and health conditions, as defined by the state) rather than percent of total population. So that missing information causes me a slight pause in interpreting this.

Another gap is an explanation as to how these cases were enumerated. How, for example, did they find the asymptomatic cases? And is there a difference between asymptomatic percent in vaccinated v unvaccinated? (FWIW I'd assume the vaccinated would have more symptoms related to immune response: fever, chills, aches and pains, feeling 'blah', and so on.)

Finally, there's the as-yet-unpublis

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:29 AM (P)

'Threats of violence' doesn't mean YOU threatened violence, Jack. But you certainly don't mind flogging the topic as an inevitability.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

'Threats of violence' doesn't mean YOU threatened violence, Jack. But you certainly don't mind flogging the topic as an inevitability.

It IS an inevitability.

Unlike the Leftists on here that are going to spend an entire year pretending that violence wasn't violence because it was their side doing it, I'm being real, and I'm not going to pretend that there aren't a lot of unstable people with guns who manage to go about their normal daily lives without snapping when things are normal.

The last year has been far from normal. A lot of people have killed themselves because of it, and hardly anybody is talking about all of those people still around that are just barely hanging on to whatever shreds of sanity they still have.

Put their backs up against the wall and tell them they can't ever work again or shop for food and see what happens.

Meanwhile....

EVERYTHING I've said was going to happen has happened.

But just keep going around pretending like I don't know what I'm talking about on this topic.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:05 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
All told, I can see why the CDC has changed its mask guidance. While the data is incomplete, there are indications that SARS-CoV-2 delta is more infectious and more severe than 'normal' SARS-CoV-2. Simple prudence should indicate a safer public policy. And masking is one of the least intrusive, and inexpensive, precautions to take. Effective masks like N95 are once again available on Amazon.com.

The mask mandate was never about safety. It was about control and compliance.

If it were about safety, everyone would have been wearing N95. They would have even been provided with them after the shortage of supply was over.

But that's not what happened, and a vast majority of people went out with scarfs, rags or whatever cheap made-in-China fabric masks they could find on Amazon. As long as your face was covered with something... anything... you weren't going to be accosted by staffers or put on YouTube by mask Karens for non-compliance.

It was NEVER about safety.

It was a grand social experiment to see if people have become so weak that the individual can be smothered out by the mob.

The individual lost.

And now they're moving on to the big fish. Attempting the same thing with an untested vaccination. Forcing it on every last individual via any means necessary just short of an official written mandate so they can pretend that there was never a mandate.

This is all stuff Kurt Vonnegut wrote about before I was born and most people today either forgot about or were never even introduced to.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:18 AM (P)

I'd think that a mask mandate would happen before people were being required to show proof of vaccination wherever they went.

Btw, employers have the right - already established in law - to require things like vaccinations, drug tests, and so on. I took my stand against that decades ago when it came to mass drug screening, writing to as many professional organizations and publications as I knew of. But hardly anybody seemed to care at the time.

And stores, restaurants etc have long been recognized as private property, over which the owners have significant control.

And so we now have this well-entrenched precedent, for any employer or business owner to use if they want.

I would require N95 employee masking every place where vulnerable people are being exposed to 'whatever whoever' without any options - like in hospitals, long-term care facilities, rehab centers, and so on.

Other than that, I think prudent people should individually opt to get vaccinated and wear N95's just to be on the safe side.

But that's apparently too radical for you.

But besides, as reasonable as I think I was back then, as reasonable as I think I'm being now, nobody listened to me back then, and they're not listening now.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:21 AM (P)

Did you see this, or did you ignore my video above?

Allowing businesses to force this is NO DIFFERENT than a government mandate.

It IS a Constitutional crisis.

Those that are for this should seriously consider the ramifications of their actions.

They're not being warned of what will happen, because the media and big tech is silencing any dissent. And make NO mistake, there is a lot of dissent.

They do so at their own peril.

We won't be talking about war with Russia or China a year from now.

The war will be on our own streets.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:26 AM (P)

One blowhard mouthing off on a channel that even you say gets no viewers ...
... this is just more of an attempt to stampede people, to "manufacture consent" as the phrase goes.

I'd wait to see if the idea was getting traction anywhere important before I figured it was a sealed fate.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:29 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One blowhard mouthing off on a channel even you say gets no viewers ...
... this is just more of an attempt to stampede people, to "manufacture consent" as the phrase goes.

I'd wait to see if the idea was getting traction anywhere important before I figured it was a sealed fate.

A year of waiting and watching me be right about everything so far isn't enough for you, huh?

Fair enough. All we can really do is sit back and wait anyhow. It's not like the individual has any power anymore. The last year proved that beyond any shadow of a doubt.

If I were running things, I'd be fighting against coercion. Why push people over the cliff when things are going so well for them? They've already got so much control over our actions right now.

The last thing I'd want to do is spark a revolution and risk losing all of that.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:31 AM (P)

Quote:
A year of waiting and watching me be right about everything so far isn't enough for you, huh?

Right about ... no people dying from COVID-19 for example? as one blazing example of many of you being wrong?

Nah. Your record of being right is spotty.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:34 AM (P)

My record of being right is impeccable.

You've spent the last 20 minutes not answering any of my questions and not replying to the pertinent parts of my posts.

You know I'm right.

We'll just sit back wait and I'll keep my big 'ole bag of I Told You So's on standby.

Do try not to get coughed on in the meantime though since your vaccination doesn't do what they told you it would when they sold it to you. And try not to think too much about what it's actually doing to you instead.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:36 AM (P)

I've addressed all your points.

You just can't admit it, just like you can't admit COVID-19 exists and kills people.

Well, enough posting at each other.

Ta ta!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:38 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I've addressed all your points.

No. You didn't.

Address the point about the mask mandates not being about safety since nobody was wearing N95 and nobody ever forced anybody to wear N95.

It was about control and compliance. Period.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 7:38 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One blowhard mouthing off on a channel that even you say gets no viewers ...
... this is just more of an attempt to stampede people, to "manufacture consent" as the phrase goes.

I'd wait to see if the idea was getting traction anywhere important before I figured it was a sealed fate.

Quote:
Many experts are calling for businesses and other organizations to mandate vaccines, rather than putting an emphasis on mandating masks. President Biden also took a step on that front Thursday, announcing federal workers would need to get vaccinated or get tested regularly.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/565712-new-mask-guidelines-trigg
er-backlash

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 8:18 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One blowhard mouthing off on a channel that even you say gets no viewers ...
... this is just more of an attempt to stampede people, to "manufacture consent" as the phrase goes.

I'd wait to see if the idea was getting traction anywhere important before I figured it was a sealed fate.

BELOW: NOT one blowhard from CNN.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/07/31/cdc_director_walens
ky_on_vaccine_mandate_thats_something_the_administration_is_looking_into.html

Quote:
Walensky on vaccine mandates: "You know, that's something that I think the administration is looking into. It's something that I think we're looking to see approval from the vaccine. Overall, I think, in general, I am all for more vaccination. But I have nothing further to say on that, except that we're looking into those policies."

"As that science evolves, I evolve, with our -- with the CDC, the guidance," Walensky said. "What I will say is, I continue to be humbled by this virus. I have no interest in continuing mask guidance. And the best way to stop a new variant from spreading is to have less virus out there."

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:26 PM (P)

Masks for thee, but not for Me.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dc-mayor-bowser-officiates-
maskless-indoor-wedding-after-reinstated-mask-mandate

OPPS

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 2, 2021 12:06 AM (P)

You idiots are willing to go back to last year because of this.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/link-between-cases-deaths-grea
tly-weakened-delta-surge

You should be celebrating, dipshits.

The media can't even spin this negatively anymore except to the most frightened among us.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Monday, August 2, 2021 1:02 AM (P)

You know, I'm really tired of tracking down the one-sided, incomplete information you post.

This is the rest of Walensky's story on vaccine mandates::

Quote:
To clarify: There will be no nationwide mandate. I was referring to mandates by private institutions and portions of the federal government. There will be no federal mandate.
- Rochelle Walensky, MD, MPH (@CDCDirector)

Maybe you should do your homework yourself.

from now on, I'll just tell you I don't believe you without going any further, because you post so mush silly stuff, and I end up wasting so much of my time disproving your bunk.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&p=54

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 2, 2021 1:08 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
To clarify: There will be no nationwide mandate. I was referring to mandates by private institutions and portions of the federal government. There will be no federal mandate.
- Rochelle Walensky, MD, MPH (@CDCDirector)

A = B, bitch.

Go fuck yourself if you think otherwise.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

THG

Monday, August 2, 2021 6:48 PM (P)

If you put a bunch of these free choice people who refuse to wear a mask and get vaccinated in a room, how many would say they believe in freedom of choice when it comes to abortion? That government should not pass laws taking away people’s right to choose? Do they wear seatbelts, or drive without licenses? Do they even fish without a license?

Do they stop at red lights? Do they teach their children to step out into traffic when the flashing red lights say not to because the government has no right to tell them they cannot?

It is also their right to be stupid and selfish. They need to take a break, calm down and look into a mirror if they dare. If they do the mirror will show them the only person on this earth they care about.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 2, 2021 7:19 PM (P)

Cram your 3 paragraphs of false equivalence up your ass, NeoCon Ted.

P.S. I never pass up an opportunity to check myself out in a mirror.

It's a shame that you've never had any good reason to yourself.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 2, 2021 7:23 PM (P)

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

THG

Monday, August 2, 2021 7:31 PM (P)

Tennessee GOP rep who rejected masks now says COVID-19 is 'real and dangerous' after his 8-month battle with the virus

"Up until this point in my life, I've been pretty healthy and active. Foolishly, I believed this virus only seriously affected people who are at high risk,"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/tennessee-gop-rep-who-rejected-ma
sks-now-says-covid-19-is-real-and-dangerous-after-his-8-month-battle-with-the-virus/ar-AAMPuEi?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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