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Do you actually think anybody is going to read your bullshit dude. People tune out halfway through the second sentence.
You have no ability to influence people at all. Yet you wonder why nobody believes you successfully run a large business.
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Quote:All the Trumptards I know are tuning out, which doesn't work out well for them.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you actually think anybody is going to read your bullshit dude. People tune out halfway through the second sentence.
You have no ability to influence people at all. Yet you wonder why nobody believes you successfully run a large business.
"Adam Smith" trying to convince Trumptards they aren't doing bad, but if they feel bad, it is Biden's fault, not their fault nor Trump's:
https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/about-half-of-americans-are-in-poverty-
or-near-poverty-have-low-incomes
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:All the Trumptards I know are tuning out, which doesn't work out well for them.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do you actually think anybody is going to read your bullshit dude. People tune out halfway through the second sentence.
You have no ability to influence people at all. Yet you wonder why nobody believes you successfully run a large business.
Nah. I regularly read CNN, Vox, MSNBC, etc.
Know thy enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated. ~Sun Tzu
You know neither your enemy, nor yourself.
I sure as shit am not going to subject myself to your dumbass interpretations of what Leftist media has to say about anything.
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President Donald Trump freed former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich in February 2020 after he had served eight years of a 14-year sentence, including for trying to sell an appointment to Barack Obama’s old U.S. Senate seat for campaign cash. Leaders of both parties in Illinois sharply criticized Trump's commutation.
Speaking outside the courthouse in a gray suit that matched his hair, which went gray behind bars because inmates are prohibited from using hair dyes, Blagojevich also declared his loyalty to the former Republican president.
“I’m a Trumpocrat,” said the one-time contestant on Trump’s reality TV show, “Celebrity Apprentice.” Because Trump spared him from several more years at his Colorado federal prison, Blagojevich added: “I am grateful to him forever.”
The Illinois House in January 2009 voted 114-1 to impeach Blagojevich, and the state Senate voted unanimously to remove him, making him the first Illinois governor in history to be removed by lawmakers.
Monday's lawsuit argues the way legislators went about impeaching and ousting him was unconstitutional.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/03/rod-blagojevich-sues-illinois
-502250
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Republicans are increasingly ready for violence
A new nationwide public opinion survey shows just how deeply Republican voters now accept political violence as a legitimate option. Business Insider offers these details:
Less than a year after a pro-Trump mob stormed the US Capitol, nearly half of Republican voters (47%) say that "a time will come when patriotic Americans have to take the law into their own hands," per a new nationwide survey by George Washington University's School of Media and Public Affairs.
This is not a new finding. Previous public opinion polls and other research from PRRI, AEI and other organizations have come to similar conclusions.
These findings about Republicans and political violence are consistent with the warnings of many leading mental health experts, who have said since Donald Trump first emerged as a presidential candidate that he and his movement represent a dire threat to American democracy. This is true both because of Trump's repeated encouragement of violence and because of his proven ability to sway members of the public to share his worldview.
Dr. Justin Frank described Trump's unusual "ability to tap into people's fears and hatred," and suggesting that his followers "are actually scarier than he is":
Trump unites his supporters in a shared idea of opposition to some other groups or individuals they revile. It doesn't even matter whether they are Black or Muslim or immigrants or migrants from Latin and South America, or Democrats, for that matter.
Right-wing political violence and other antisocial and destructive behavior are gradually becoming normalized across American society. The events of Jan. 6 were a logical next step. As law enforcement and other terrorism experts have repeatedly warned, that was not the end of a wave of right-wing violence in America but just another stage in a centuries-long journey. The next step could well be a sustained right-wing insurgency against multiracial democracy.
Republicans generally oppose taking steps to address the global climate crisis, and in fact have consistently made the crisis worse. During Trump's presidency, Republicans engaged in acts of democide through their willfully incompetent response to the COVID-19 pandemic, choices that have now killed more than 600,000 people in the United States.
The Republican response to gun violence (including mass shootings), the health care crisis, education, wealth and income inequality, and social injustice more generally have caused the deaths of millions of Americans since the 1960s. It is no exaggeration to claim that today's Republican Party — and the larger "conservative" movement more generally — is sociopathic and dangerous.
More at https://www.salon.com/2021/08/03/republicans-are-increasingly-ready-fo
r-violence-we-look-away-at-our-peril/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Certainly fears! You don't see democrats discussing job loss to China! Or the lack of American basic productive capability! Or the flood of ILLEGAL immigrants coming over the border!* (Biden's* policy of non-enforcement quickly followed by forgiveness and citizenship is being shepherded through very quietly. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63997&p=3 Biden*'s new clothes)
Dr. Justin Frank described Trump's unusual "ability to tap into people's fears and hatred" ...
These are 'bread and butter' issues to real Americans - existing citizens who should be able to expect the government is looking out for their interests.
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Quote:Those are not 'bread and butter' issues to real Americans, but rather the red meat that Republican politicians are forever throwing out as bait for a certain kind of witless voters I know as stupid and crazy. The people who worry about losing their jobs to illegal immigrants are the kind of people who would inevitably vote for Trump, no matter what Trump actually accomplishes. For those dimwit worriers, Trump didn't do the one truly effective thing he could do to stop illegals, which was to arrest American citizens who hire illegal aliens, because that would have alienated wealthy people. If Biden did arrest Americans who hired illegal aliens, he would not win even one voter away from Trump, but he sure as hell would drive away Democrats from voting in 2022 and 2024.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Certainly fears! You don't see democrats discussing job loss to China! Or the lack of American basic productive capability! Or the flood of ILLEGAL immigrants coming over the border!* (Biden's* policy of non-enforcement quickly followed by forgiveness and citizenship is being shepherded through very quietly. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63997&p=3 Biden*'s new clothes)
Dr. Justin Frank described Trump's unusual "ability to tap into people's fears and hatred" ...
These are 'bread and butter' issues to real Americans - existing citizens who should be able to expect the government is looking out for their interests.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
Republicans are increasingly ready for violence
A new nationwide public opinion survey shows just how deeply Republican voters now accept political violence as a legitimate option.
Shut up, bitch.
Leftist BLM and Antifa thugs have been doing this across the country for over a year and you don't bat an eye.
The only time I get violent is when they force a vaccine on me. And that goes just as much for any Republican doing it as any Democrat.
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Quote:(Just so you don't misunderstand, 1kiki, America is controlled by the top 1% richest Americans, unless Congress does something to thwart the 1%. The Republicans do NOT want the 1% placed under control and so long as there are 34 Republican Senators the 1% can't be controlled. As for Presidents, they can't stop the 1% from being the actual leaders of America, doing whatever pleases themselves, but Congress can stop the 1% by simply taxing them and giving the IRS sufficient money to enforce the tax laws. Congress can also stop the 1% by giving the Court System sufficient money so that cases involving the top 1% get decided within months rather than years or decades. Delays always work for the advantage of the wealthy. But as long as there are 34 Republican Senators, the IRS will not be collecting all the taxes the 1% richest owe and court cases involving the 1% will not be decided quickly. This is how the rich want America to run and this is how it continues to run.)
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
2021
I have an article about Trumptards voting for Trump because they don't feel respected by the Libtards. The Trumptards and their Trumpy Senators will do everything in their power to attack the Libtards, but while they are on the many year long attack, very little else will get accomplished in Congress:
The creative class was supposed to foster progressive values and economic growth. Instead we got resentment, alienation, and endless political dysfunction.
How could people with high-end powerboats possibly think of themselves as the downtrodden? The truth is, they are not totally crazy. The class structure of Western society has gotten scrambled over the past few decades. It used to be straightforward: You had the rich, who joined country clubs and voted Republican; the working class, who toiled in the factories and voted Democratic; and, in between, the mass suburban middle class. We had a clear idea of what class conflict, when it came, would look like—members of the working classes would align with progressive intellectuals to take on the capitalist elite.
But somehow when the class conflict came, in 2015 and 2016, it didn’t look anything like that. Suddenly, conservative parties across the West—the former champions of the landed aristocracy—portrayed themselves as the warriors for the working class. And left-wing parties—once vehicles for proletarian revolt—were attacked as captives of the super-educated urban elite. These days, your education level and political values are as important in defining your class status as your income is. Because of this, the U.S. has polarized into two separate class hierarchies—one red and one blue. Classes struggle not only up and down, against the richer and poorer groups on their own ladder, but against their partisan opposite across the ideological divide.
As creative-class people enter left-leaning parties, working-class people tend to leave. Around 1990, nearly a third of Labour members of the British Parliament were from working-class backgrounds; from 2010 to 2015, the proportion wasn’t even one in 10. In 2016, Hillary Clinton won the 50 most-educated counties in America by an average of 26 points—while losing the 50 least-educated counties by an average of 31 points.
These partisan differences overlay economic differences. In 2020, Joe Biden won just 500 or so counties—but together they account for 71 percent of American economic activity, according to the Brookings Institution. Donald Trump won more than 2,500 counties that together generate only 29 percent of that activity. An analysis by Brookings and The Wall Street Journal found that just 13 years ago, Democratic and Republican areas were at near parity on prosperity and income measures. Now they are divergent and getting more so. If Republicans and Democrats talk as though they are living in different realities, it’s because they are.
In The Great Class Shift, Thibault Muzergues argues that the creative class has disrupted politics across the Western world. In na
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I have an article about Trumptards voting for Trump because they don't feel respected by the Libtards.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
2021
LOL
Of course you have a narcissistic article written by a Leftist narcissist. Your echo chamber gets choked up with more of them with every day that passes.
Respect is a two way street and respect is earned.
I could give two shits what a Leftist worm who's never worked a day in their life thinks about me. In fact, whatever they have to say is probably the equal and opposite of the truth.
I have zero respect for hive-minded people who have given up their ability to form their own opinions for the ability to just shut off their brains and let somebody else do all of their thinking and decision making for them.
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Quote:I add a paragraph:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I have an article about Trumptards voting for Trump because they don't feel respected by the Libtards.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
2021
LOL
Of course you have a narcissistic article written by a Leftist narcissist. Your echo chamber gets choked up with more of them with every day that passes.
Respect is a two way street and respect is earned.
I could give two shits what a Leftist worm who's never worked a day in their life thinks about me. In fact, whatever they have to say is probably the equal and opposite of the truth.
I have zero respect for hive-minded people who have given up their ability to form their own opinions for the ability to just shut off their brains and let somebody else do all of their thinking and decision making for them.
(Just so you don't misunderstand, 1kiki, America is controlled by the top 1% richest Americans, unless Congress does something to thwart the 1%. The Republicans do NOT want the 1% placed under control and so long as there are 34 Republican Senators the 1% can't be controlled. As for Presidents, they can't stop the 1% from being the actual leaders of America, doing whatever pleases themselves, but Congress can stop the 1% by simply taxing them and giving the IRS sufficient money to enforce the tax laws. Congress can also stop the 1% by giving the Court System sufficient money so that cases involving the top 1% get decided within months rather than years or decades. Delays always work for the advantage of the wealthy. But as long as there are 34 Republican Senators, the IRS will not be collecting all the taxes the 1% richest owe and court cases involving the 1% will not be decided quickly. This is how the rich want America to run and this is how it continues to run.)
Special note for 6ix: you don't really understand the power that the top 1% richest have over America. If you someday understand, and have the physical courage, you would probably turn into the DC Comics Joker and kill the top 1%. I am not expecting your transformation into a DC Super Villain, 6ix, but maybe you will surprise me. I look forward to your crazy rampage followed by treatment in Arkham Asylum for the Criminally Insane.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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When democrats* controlled Congress and the WH, what control did THEY exercise over the 1% ?
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:Go all the way back to FDR. Taxes were raised to 99% of taxable income. The Republican Supreme Court justices raged against the New Deal until FDR threatened them. Social Security was passed. Herbert Hoover, who FDR defeated, spent the rest of his life accusing Democrats of being Communists. J. Edger Hoover, the Republican FBI director, accused Democrats of being Communists.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
When democrats* controlled Congress and the WH, what control did THEY exercise over the 1% ?
Go back to LBJ. Medicare passed. Voting Rights Act was passed. Finally, there was an end to the system that the slave-owners had established after the Civil War. And what were Republicans (and Democrats who would switch parties) doing? Raging against the Democrats for being Communists. What were the top 1% doing? Electing Nixon to take back control of America from those Communists and lower taxes. Nixon went a little too far in lowering his own taxes. So did Trump, following Nixon's example.
1kiki, whenever there are 34 Republican Senators, those Communists in the Democratic Party cannot stop the top 1% from doing as they please.
https://bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Free_Resources/Federal-Income-Tax-Rat
es.aspx
President Nixon's Troublesome Tax Returns
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument
Trump paid no federal income taxes
https://fortune.com/2020/09/27/trump-paid-no-income-taxes/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Did LBJ REALLY threaten the power structure? Was it by doing this? How L.B.J. Pushed Through Kennedy's Tax Cut https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/04/how-l-b-j-pushed-through
-kennedys-tax-cut/
/snicker
Come to think of it, maybe that was JFK's problem, the one that got him killed. The fact that the CIA was running US foreign policy, and he threatened that.
Anyway, if democrats* ever threatened the 1%, it was all the way back to FDR, and even that's debatable. And that was 80 or more years ago.
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:You are trolling me, 1kiki. I've got a perfect example of the 1% running a corner of America exactly the way they want to. The Democrats in the Senate can't stop the 1% from doing this because there are more than 34 Republican Senators and the Democrats are also fearful of, once again, being called Communists. Here is the example:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Did LBJ REALLY threaten the power structure? Was it by doing this? How L.B.J. Pushed Through Kennedy's Tax Cut
https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/04/how-l-b-j-pushed-through
-kennedys-tax-cut/
/snicker
Come to think of it, maybe that was JFK's problem, the one that got him killed. The fact that the CIA was running US foreign policy, and he threatened that.
Anyway, if democrats* ever threatened the 1%, it was all the way back to FDR, and even that's debatable. And that was 80 or more years ago.
The U.S. again ranks last in health care compared with other high-income countries: report
Aug. 4, 2021 at 5:02 p.m. ET
Despite spending more than the other countries on health care as a percentage of GDP, the U.S. still ranks last in health care performance
https://web.archive.org/web/20210805140426/https://www.marketwatch.com
/story/the-u-s-again-ranks-last-in-health-care-compared-with-other-high-income-countries-report-11628110844
High prices and low performance is exactly what the 1% want from the Health Care System. 1kiki, you can look up the Republicans' ideas for taking control of Health Care away from the top 1%. If you ignore the Republican obfuscation, you will find that the Republicans have no plans for taking control away from the top 1% and the Democrats have very detailed plans that the 34 Republican Senators have stopped and will continue to stop for the rest of this century because that is how the Constitution was designed and that is how the top 1% want it to be.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Another example showing the top 1% richest are the true leaders of America:
When industry wants a chemical safety assessment done yesterday, EPA managers classify it as “hair on fire.” . . .
Although she had resolutely refused to change her conclusion about the threat posed by the chemical, the new document dismissed the information Osterweil had inserted about the developmental hazards. Instead, it was deemed unlikely to present an unreasonable risk — making it a “not likely,” in the agency’s parlance. The industry had once again won the battle over a chemical assessment — getting the risks of its product minimized and speeding up the review process. In an email sent by Osterweil’s supervisor that day, she wrote, “Please move this Not Likely expeditiously, as the submitter is anxious.”
In June, after several of the whistleblowers had filed complaints with the EPA’s science adviser and the EPA inspector general, the assessment was again changed, this time to reflect that the chemical “may present an unreasonable risk of injury to health.” It was nevertheless allowed onto the market.
https://theintercept.com/2021/08/04/epa-hair-on-fire-chemicals-leaked-
audio/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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You seem to think I'm disputing that the country is run by the rich, for the rich. I'm not, I agree with that.
BTW - Signy made that exact point a long time ago posting a paper. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/artic
le/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B So nice of you to catch up!
Anyway, democrats* have had a long enough time to prove they're* not just like republicans. But instead of doing that, they* actively pursue the same policies: Obama* blowing the financialists, spying even more on innocent citizens, starting foreign wars on the cheap through CIA operations ... and so on; Clinton* gutting Glass-Steagall, signing NAFTA, and 'reforming' welfare ... and so on.
That's just a small sampling of how the democrats* aren't just cowering before republicans and frozen into immobility, they're actively pursuing the exact same policies.
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, you use the asterisk too much. It is a sign of a mushy mind, not much focused on a goal.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You seem to think I'm disputing that the country is run by the rich, for the rich. I'm not, I agree with that.
BTW - Signy made that exact point a long time ago posting a paper. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/artic
le/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B So nice of you to catch up!
Anyway, democrats* have had a long enough time to prove they're* not just like republicans. But instead of doing that, they* actively pursue the same policies: Obama* blowing the financialists, spying even more on innocent citizens, starting foreign wars on the cheap through CIA operations ... and so on; Clinton* gutting Glass-Steagall, signing NAFTA, and 'reforming' welfare ... and so on.
That's just a small sampling of how the democrats* aren't just cowering before republicans and frozen into immobility, they're actively pursuing the exact same policies.
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
There are simple reasons why the richest 1% are the actual rulers the USA and why the President and Congress do not rule.
1) The 1% are focused. It may appear that they squabble within their group, but the entire group actually knows exactly what they want. On the other hand, politicians are a bunch of dithering, unfocused blabbermouths listening to voters who are even more unfocused and dithering than the politicians. The voters want a million different things which conflict with what other voters want, which leads to endless compromising, negotiating, confusion, uncertainty and (the favorite weakness that gives the top 1% its enormous power) delays that stretch out for years or even decades.
2) The Constitution is designed to paralyze the Federal government. The Founding Fathers, who wrote the rules, were the top 1% who knew exactly what they were doing. While the 21st Century top 1% are going after their goal, the Federal government can't move because the 1% know exactly what circuit breakers to turn off in order to stop the Federal government from interfering with the top 1%.
The Democratic Party and the GOP give a demonstration every day of the week that they absolutely don't know what to do with a true top 1%, Trump for one example, but there are 3,300,000 more of them besides Trump. The Federal government doesn't know how to handle the top 1%. If the Federal government functioned properly, Trump would have paid his taxes. There would not be an endless "audit" and court cases. Trump shows how silly, weak and dithering the Federal government is, as it was designed to be by the top 1%.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:The beginnings of wisdom. Serving the 1% is a bipartisan effort.
The Democratic Party and the GOP give a demonstration every day of the week that they absolutely don't know what to do with a true top 1%
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Did you notice that Second said "there are 3,300,000 more of them.
Dummy thinks the 1% is all American.
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The Murder of the U.S. Middle Class Began 40 Years Ago This Week
Reagan’s firing of striking air traffic controllers was the first huge offensive in corporate America’s war on everyone else.
Forty years ago, on August 5, 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired 11,345 striking air traffic controllers and barred them from ever working again for the federal government. By October of that year, the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization, or PATCO, the union that had called the strike, had been decertified and lay in ruins. The careers of most of the individual strikers were similarly dead: While Bill Clinton lifted Reagan’s ban on strikers in 1993, fewer than 10 percent were ever rehired by the Federal Aviation Administration.
PATCO was dominated by Vietnam War-era veterans who’d learned air traffic control in the military and were one of a vanishingly small number of unions to endorse Reagan in 1980, thereby scoring one of the greatest own goals in political history. It’s easy to imagine strikers expressing the same sentiments as a Trump voter who famously lamented, “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”
The significance of Reagan’s actions is rarely discussed today in the mainstream, and for understandable reasons: It was the first huge offensive in a war that corporate America has been waging on this country’s middle class ever since. As Warren Buffett — current estimated net worth $101 billion — has said, “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
The stunning victory of the wealthy over everyone else can been measured in several straightforward ways. During a speech last May at a community college in Cleveland, Joe Biden explained one of them: “From 1948 after the war to 1979, productivity in America grew by 100 percent. We made more things with productivity. You know what the workers’ pay grew? By 100 percent. Since 1979, all of that changed. Productivity has grown four times faster than pay has grown. The basic bargain in this country has been broken.”
More at https://theintercept.com/2021/08/06/middle-class-reagan-patco-strike/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:And continued under "I feel your pain" Clinton, and every other President and Congress, Democrat and Republican, since then.
Originally posted by second:
The Murder of the U.S. Middle Class Began 40 Years Ago This Week
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Quote:I get the feeling that you have some misunderstanding that the Democrats in the Senate can stop the Republicans on Supreme Court and in the Senate from killing unions. It is possible if there were 67 Democratic Senators and 6 Democratic justices, but very unlikely with fewer because there will be Democrats defecting to the Republican side. Senator Joe Manchin, for example. There won't be Republican Senators defecting to the Democrats' side because all Republicans hate unions.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:And continued under "I feel your pain" Clinton, and every other President and Congress, Democrat and Republican, since then.
Originally posted by second:
The Murder of the U.S. Middle Class Began 40 Years Ago This Week
Supreme Court rules against labor in private property case, barring access for organizing
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/23/supreme-court-
backs-farmers-private-property-rights-over-union-access/7465146002/
The Supreme Court decision gutting public sector unions
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/14/17437832/janus-afscme-supreme-court-unio
n-teacher-police-public-sector
Minimum mandatory paid vacation days passing Congress? Not gonna happen until there are fewer than 34 GOP Senators. Every other country has mandatory paid vacation days, but not the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country
Mandatory Maternity Leave passing Congress? Not gonna happen, although other countries have it, but those other countries don't have a Republican Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave#Americas
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Quote:... are hapless Little Nells instead of active participants actively pursuing the same policies in service to the (global) 1% (but especially those from the City of London): Obama* blowing the financialists, spying even more on innocent citizens, starting foreign wars on the cheap through CIA operations ... and so on; Clinton* gutting Glass-Steagall, signing NAFTA, and 'reforming' welfare ... and so on.
I get the feeling that YOU have some misunderstanding that the Democrats* ...
That's just a small sampling of how the democrats* aren't just cowering before republicans and frozen into immobility, they're actively pursuing the exact same policies.
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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America faces cascading crises. Democrats must act.
Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans will depend on progressives corralling Democratic unity around the $3.5 trillion budget resolution that has been put together under the leadership of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). That bill will authorize crucial funding left out of the bipartisan deal — clean energy, research and development, manufacturing aid, housing and schools, child care — as well as sustaining the child tax credit and expanding Medicare coverage.
But to pass the reconciliation bill, Democrats need the votes of all 50 caucus members, and Sinema and Manchin have indicated that they may balk at the $3.5 trillion price tag. (Sinema has even said that she won’t allow any votes to interfere with her vacation plans. If she were to carry out that threat, she could torpedo both bills on her way out the door.) Once again, these so-called centrists are standing in the way of Congress addressing catastrophic climate change, investing in civilian research and development, boosting domestic manufacturing vital to our economy, and alleviating inequality and the pressures on working families. Also at stake are the chances Democrats have to retain their majorities in both the House and Senate in the 2022 elections, for their vote will surely be depressed by a failure to deliver.
It’s not that Sinema or Manchin have a specific, principled stance. They just want less. If there is a final agreement, it will probably be reached just like the infrastructure deal, by lowering the total price tag while sustaining most of the annual level of spending by reducing the number of years the programs are authorized. That will give the programs less time to take effect and make them more vulnerable to repeal.
With record wildfires, a terrible pandemic starting to revive, extreme inequality and an economy that doesn’t work for working families, most Americans increasingly realize that it is time for bold action. Yet, we have a Republican Party consumed by delusions and dedicated to making the administration fail. For all the bipartisan blather, Democrats must get it done on their own — despite having only a one-vote margin in the Senate (counting the vice president breaking a tie) and a three-vote margin in the House. And that requires Sinema, Manchin and others to get with the program.
More at https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/03/america-faces-casca
ding-crises-democrats-must-act/
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
America faces cascading crises. Democrats must act.
Any serious effort toalleviate the real crises facing Americansbuy American votes will depend on progressives corralling Democratic unity around the $3.5 trillion budget resolution that has been put together under the leadership of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Quote:Global warming? Nuclear proliferation? An 80-year Pentagon-sized black hole in the US budget? Dependence on other countries for basic manufacturing? An economy based on gigs and loans, with the great vampire squid financialism sucking the lifeblood out?
Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans ...
Like those real crises?
Don't look to Joe.*
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:The real problem is that a majority of Americans don't want any of this to change. They say they do, but when you get to specifics, there is not a majority behind anything, nor a majority to pay for it. There is not even one person in America who will do a damn thing about it, other than rage ineffectively. For the crudest imaginable example, stealing an idea from the final Firefly episode Heart of Gold, where the villain was killed in cold blood, how many Wall St. financiers were murdered, or attempted murdered, or kidnapped, or even successfully sued by borrowers who were cheated? Zero. There is exactly nobody in America, sane or criminally insane, who has the guts to "regulate" big time cheaters. So, there is no reason to think Biden or Congress or any state governor or state legislature will.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Global warming? Nuclear proliferation? An 80-year Pentagon-sized black hole in the US budget? Dependence on other countries for basic manufacturing? An economy based on gigs and loans, with the great vampire squid financialism sucking the lifeblood out?
Any serious effort to alleviate the real crises facing Americans ...
Like those real crises?
Don't look to Joe.*
And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?
Firefly: "Heart of Gold"
Written by: Brett Matthews
http://www.russellmadden.com/Firefly_transcript_HEART_O.html
PETALINE
Rance, this is Jonah.
(beat)
Jonah, say hi to your daddy.
Burgess smiles like a proud papa. He's actually moved at the sight of his son.
Petaline raises her free hand in which she holds Nandi's favorite gun.
She aims it at Burgess' head. She fires. Rance drops face down to the ground.
PETALINE (cont'd)
Say goodbye to your daddy, Jonah.
Petaline looks up from Burgess' dead body, icy.
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lol
Things aren't going the way you wanted them to after you got what you wanted, huh Second?
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Quote:Trump on Saturday, however, said that Republicans should wait until after the midterm elections to vote for any infrastructure bill . . .
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Things aren't going the way you wanted them to after you got what you wanted, huh Second?
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/566838-trump-slams-mcconnell-infra
structure-package-a-disgrace
Translating Trump's meandering bullshit into English: Don't pass infrastructure until January 2023. Trump is a complete asshole because he told any GOP Senators who vote for infrastructure that he will do what he can to remove them from the Senate.
Senators voted 67-27 to advance the infrastructure bill. Eighteen GOP senators voted with all Democrats to help get the legislation over the 60-vote hurdle. The bill will face another vote on Sunday to formally shut down debate and put the bill on a glide path to passage. If every Democrat continues to vote yes, that means they need to have 10 GOP senators in order to get over the final hurdle for the bill. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/566855-1t-infrastructure-bill-pass
es-key-test-vote
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Quote:... no matter what the polls say, no matter that Trump was completely unexpectedly elected when Hillary voters stayed home. A majority of Americans' words ... and actions! ... are all lies!
The real problem is that a majority of Americans don't want any of this to change ...
Because that makes so much sense. /
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Why some of the smartest people can be so very stupid
https://psyche.co/ideas/why-some-of-the-smartest-people-can-be-so-very
-stupid
Stupidity is a very specific cognitive failing. Crudely put, it occurs when you don’t have the right conceptual tools for the job. This is easiest to introduce with a tragic case. British high command during the First World War frequently understood trench warfare using concepts and strategies from the cavalry battles of their youth. As one of Field Marshal Douglas Haig’s subordinates later remarked, they thought of the trenches as ‘mobile operations at the halt’: ie, as fluid battle lines with the simple caveat that nothing in fact budged for years. Unsurprisingly, this did not serve them well in formulating a strategy: they were hampered, beyond the shortage of material resources, by a kind of ‘conceptual obsolescence’, a failure to update their cognitive tools to fit the task in hand.
Such stupidity is perfectly compatible with intelligence: Haig was by any standard a smart man. Indeed, in at least some cases, intelligence actively abets stupidity by allowing pernicious rationalization: when Harry Houdini, the great illusionist, took Arthur Conan Doyle, the inventor of Sherlock Holmes, through the tricks underlying the seances in which Conan Doyle devoutly believed, the author’s reaction was to concoct a ludicrously elaborate counter-explanation as to why it was precisely the true mediums who would appear to be frauds.
Stupidity has two features that make it particularly dangerous. First, stupidity is primarily a property of groups or traditions, not individuals: after all, we get most of our concepts, our mental tools, from the society we are raised in. Suppose the problem with Haig had been laziness: there was no shortage of energetic generals to replace him. But if Haig worked himself to the bone within the intellectual prison of the 19th-century military tradition, then solving the difficulty becomes harder: you will need to introduce a new conceptual framework and establish a sense of identity and military pride for it. Once stupidity has taken hold of a group or society, it is thus particularly hard to eradicate – inventing, distributing and normalizing new concepts is tough work.
Second, stupidity begets more stupidity. Take politics, where stupidity is particularly catching: a stupid slogan chimes with a stupid voter, it mirrors the way they see the world. The result is that stupidity can, ironically, be extremely effective in the right environment: a kind of incapacity is in effect being selected for. Stupidity is compatible with high educational achievement, and it is more the property of a political culture than of the individuals in it, needing to be tackled at that level.
There will be many cases that aren’t fully fledged stupidity but that mimic its effects. Imagine someone who had been blind to all evidence that they were being cheated on finally asking themselves ‘How could you be so stupid?’ Here the problem is not pure stupidity: the concept of a cheat is common enough. What we have here is rather someone ‘acting as if they were stupid’. It’s not just that they failed to apply the concept of betrayal, but that they literally didn’t think of it: it was effectively ‘offline’, due to emotional and other pressures. In this kind of case, agents possess the necessary intellectual tools but unwittingly lock them away. This marks an important contrast with dumbness – we can make ourselves stupid, but we don’t make ourselves dumb.
Stupidity is tough to fix. This is exacerbated by the way it dovetails with other vices: stubbornness stops me from revisiting my concepts even as they fail me. But once we understand stupidity’s nature, things are a little brighter than they might seem. To view political opponents as primarily cynical transforms them into Machiavellian monsters, leaving no space for anything but a zero-sum battle for domination. To view political opponents as primarily dumb is to suggest an irreparable flaw – one that, in our deeply hierarchical soci
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Quote:Are you aware that if only a few thousand votes had changed, Hillary would have been President in 2016?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:... no matter what the polls say, no matter that Trump was completely unexpectedly elected when Hillary voters stayed home. A majority of Americans' words ... and actions! ... are all lies!
The real problem is that a majority of Americans don't want any of this to change ...
Because that makes so much sense. /
A shift of fewer than 80,000 votes in three states (Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin) — or 0.06% of 137 million cast — would have made Hillary Clinton president.
https://www.axios.com/hillary-clinton-2016-election-votes-supreme-cour
t-liberal-justice-1b4bc4fc-9fad-44b4-ab54-9ef86aa9c1f1.html
I would say that if America is that closely divided, by only a few thousand votes, America does NOT know what it wants. How about in 2020? How close was the vote then?
When you look at the smallest popular vote shift needed to give Trump a victory, the 2020 election was close. Indeed, it was even closer than 2016. If Trump picked up the right mix of 42,921 votes in Arizona (10,457), Georgia (11,779), and Wisconsin (20,682), the Electoral College would have been tied at 269 all. The House would have then decided the election. Republicans will hold the majority of state delegations in the new Congress, and they undoubtedly would have chosen Trump. If Trump had also picked up the one electoral vote in Nebraska’s Second Congressional District, which he lost to Biden by 22,091 votes, he would have won the Electoral College outright. Back in 2016, Clinton needed to pick up the right mix of 78,000 votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin to win the Electoral College.
https://www.cfr.org/blog/2020-election-numbers
Again, 2020 was much the same as 2016. A few thousand votes separate the winner from the loser. And again America does not know what it wants. Congress will not make bold decisions when the country is split 50/50 about the difference between Trump/Biden or Trump/Hillary. Even the Senate is split 50/50 between D and R Senators. Even the House of Representatives is split almost exactly 50/50.
This is crazy when America cannot get a clear majority for either party. It is as if America is flipping a coin when it goes to vote rather than comparing the obvious differences between D vs R and choosing one or the other.
1kiki: Does Russia have crash barriers where roads split? If you are unfamiliar with those crush-able barrels on the Interstate Highway System, this analogy will totally confuse you: When America comes to the split in the road between going left or right, America always hits the crash barrier. This is a crazy way to drive. Either go left or right, America. Please stop trying to go both ways.
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Trump won. Democrats stole it.
You're watching the country and the world fall apart as a result of it.
I think we'll survive another 3 years though.
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Quote:America is falling apart because it can't decide whether to go left or right. If a few thousand voters changed their minds, the other party would win the Presidency. Same with the Senate and the House of Representatives. So America keeps running into the crash barrels where the road splits to go left and right. Crashing America over and over into the barrels is a continuous and wonderful moneymaking opportunity for tow truck owners and collision repair shops (the top 1% wealthiest Americans) who will keep getting more and more of America's wealth until they own 67% of the country, unless American voters pick either left or right instead of crashing at every election. Once at 67% ownership of America, Congress can be shutdown because the top 1% will be making all political decisions. How soon until the richest own 67%? Probably another 50 years if present trends continue:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump won. Democrats stole it.
You're watching the country and the world fall apart as a result of it.
I think we'll survive another 3 years though.
Newly released data from the Fed show that the top 1 percent of income earners now hold 32.1 percent of all wealth in the United States. That is the highest percentage of wealth the top 1 percent has held since the Fed began publishing the data set in 1989 (see below). That’s up nearly 20 percent from the period following the 2007-2008 Financial Crisis, and nearly 35 percent from 1990. This data should not be surprising.
https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/the-top-1-hold-a-record-amoun
t-of-wealth-in-the-u-s-heres-how-much-and-why
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Critical Race Theory (CRT)
In Idaho, one state legislator, in the service of promoting anti-CRT legislation, cited To Kill a Mockingbird to call for banning Critical Race Theory from public schools because the book supposedly makes white people look bad.
Frederick Douglass could just as easily be banned from school systems in states adopting anti-CRT legislation, for this is a man who from the beginning of his career in the late 1830s to his death in 1895 viscerally and intellectually understood the centrality of slavery and race to American history and culture. Consider the most famous lines from his most famous speech, his 1852 “What to the Slave Is the Fourth of July?” Douglass declares about the supposedly democratic nation in which slavery is the law of the land:
“Roam through all the monarchies and despotisms of the old world, travel through South America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last, lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation, and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival.”
Could such a speech be taught in Idaho, Texas, Florida, or any other state with anti-CRT legislation on the books? Would educators be willing to take this risk? In his 1845 Narrative, Douglass displays white people’s anti-Black racism in action: he shows Black people being indiscriminately killed and tortured under slavery and depicts racism penetrating the North as well. In the autobiography’s devastating appendix, he attacks white Christianity, North and South, for its hypocrisy and cruelty, stating sarcastically that white Christians profess “to love God whom they have not seen, whilst they hate their brother whom they have seen.” Douglass did not relent on white racist practices after the Civil War, attacking Radical Republicans for not moving quickly enough to help the freedpeople, proclaiming that Lincoln was “preeminently the white man’s President, entirely devoted to the welfare of white men,” laying bare the prejudice that made it difficult for his sons and other Black people to find jobs in the Northeast, and condemning the nation for becoming a charnel house of lynching in his last major speech, “Lessons of the Hour” (1894).
Douglass was also a student of the law, and some of his greatest speeches expose the racist underpinnings of Supreme Court decisions supposedly made in relation to an objective or originalist vision of constitutional law. In this way, Douglass could be considered a founder of CRT practice. He wrote and spoke powerfully about the racist underpinnings of the 1857 Dred Scott case, which at the time denied Black people citizenship in perpetuity, and he later assailed the Supreme Court’s 1883 nullification of the Civil Rights Act of 1875 for the way it upheld white supremacist racial hierarchies. It was a “deed,” he said, “done for slavery, caste, and oppression.” Had he lived another two or three years, his would have been a powerful voice speaking out against the Supreme Court’s decision in Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), showing how its “separate but equal” outcome ultimately meant separate and unequal — which he would have critiqued for violating the nation’s founding principles.
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/frederick-douglass-and-the-trouble
-with-critical-race-theory/
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It's not that the people of the US don't know what they want. It's just that the choices they're offered are not it.
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Quote:You are wrong. Americans allowed their choices to be made for them. An example: Healthcare is more expensive in America than anywhere else in the world. Millions get no healthcare. Bankruptcy because of medical expenses is common. But when there is talk of fixing this system which is obviously designed to make the maximum amount of money for people who own the healthcare system, the talk always turns to America has the best healthcare in the world and to change it would be socialism and do you want the government to interfere with the doctor/patient relationship? At that point, 99% of Americans lazily decide they will tolerate things as they are because changing anything would make it worse.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It's not that the people of the US don't know what they want. It's just that the choices they're offered are not it.
Republican politicians know it is easy to herd American opinion to do nothing about everything, especially when the Democrats start talking about the price tag for changing things. Americans don't want to pay. Things will not change swiftly because Americans are so easily discouraged and don't want to think about solutions to problems.
Not one American in 100 would click the link below:
Health Care in the U.S. Compared to Other High-Income Countries
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2021/aug/mi
rror-mirror-2021-reflecting-poorly
Not one American in 1,000 would read the Conclusion: Four features distinguish top performing countries from the United States:
1) they provide for universal coverage and remove cost barriers;
2) they invest in primary care systems to ensure that high-value services are equitably available in all communities to all people;
3) they reduce administrative burdens that divert time, efforts, and spending from health improvement efforts; and
4) they invest in social services, especially for children and working-age adults.
All this information is easy to find by googling https://www.google.com/search?q=healthcare+compared+to+other+countries but Americans are NOT going to do it. Therefore, the Democrats can't get it done in Congress.
There will be nobody but a very few Democratic voters pushing Republican Senators to solve this healthcare problem and the GOP Senators won't vote for what a Democrat wants. I have seen that dynamic with the two Republican Senators from Texas. Those two guys don't give a damn about what the Democrats want. And Republican voters won't push their GOP Senators to solve the healthcare problem.
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Originally posted by second:
Not one American in 100 would click the link below:
You're so Elite.
Quote:
Not one American in 1,000 would read the Conclusion... Americans are NOT going to do it. Therefore, the Democrats can't get it done in Congress.
1 in 1000 voted for Biden*.
That sounds about right.
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Quote:6ix, I read what you write over at this thread:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Not one American in 100 would click the link below:
You're so Elite.Quote:
Not one American in 1,000 would read the Conclusion... Americans are NOT going to do it. Therefore, the Democrats can't get it done in Congress.
1 in 1000 voted for Biden*.
That sounds about right.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&mid=11385
85#1138585
You are no different than 999 Americans out of 1,000. You are alone. That's what you wrote. You have no lofty purpose. (By the way, worshiping god or worrying about children/money or fixing your house is NOT lofty. ) No Republican Senator need be concerned about what you want because you aren't persistent and you won't apply sufficient brute force to make your Republican Senator concerned about you. Instead of thinking about you, your GOP Senator will spend his workday looking after people who are persistent and who will use brute force. Who are they? The top 1% richest. More accurately, the top 0.1% richest. The 1 in 1,000 Americans.
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How Trump blew his chance to steal the election
Trump committed abundant crimes in trying to steal the election, but being Trump, he was impulsive and disorganized and failed.
The months leading up to Nov. 3, 2020, were for Donald Trump almost a carbon copy of what he had done going into the presidential election four years previously: He thumbed tweets, whined at his rallies and complained to anyone who would listen that the election had been "rigged" by Democrats. Of course, after election eve in 2016, we never heard another peep out of him about the dastardly Democrats and the wily ways they had rigged the election against him, because he won.
But from the moment that his network of pet poodles at Fox News called Arizona for Joe Biden in November of 2020, causing a series of eruptions in the private quarters at the White House, culminated in a call to Fox executives to demand that the network reverse its Arizona projection, Trump understood that this time it would be different. He would lose.
Trump turned immediately to the courts, filing more than 60 federal lawsuits in the battleground states he lost claiming that the election had been "stolen" from him. But as one case after another went down to defeat or outright dismissal, he turned to loyalist loons like former general Michael Flynn, online conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, former White House adviser Sebastian Gorka, My Pillow guy Mike Lindell and — wait for it — the Proud Boys to push his obsession that he hadn't lost, and that the election had been rigged by nefarious forces. . . .
After seven hours of testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee last Saturday by former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, and five hours of testimony before the same committee on Friday by Rosen's former acting deputy, Richard Donoghue, we now know that behind the scenes, Trump was very busy. . . .
Trump's problem, to put it frankly, was that he didn't start committing crimes early enough. The crimes he committed in December and January were largely impulsive, not carefully planned or focused. He exploded with tweets and phone calls and meetings and rallies.
In short, Trump was Trump, as incompetent a criminal conspirator as he was a president. The only question left to be answered at this point is whether Merrick Garland and the Biden Department of Justice will have the courage to charge him and his co-conspirators with the felonies they committed: defrauding the United States by attempting to illegally influence the outcome of the 2020 election.
If that crime sounds familiar, that is because it is the same one special counsel Robert Mueller charged 24 Russian nationals with committing in 2016, when they illegally hacked into Democratic National Committee servers, stole campaign emails and set up fake accounts to influence voters on American social media platforms. With Donald Trump, nothing is ever new. Just watch him. He's out there right now raising $100 million to do it all over again in 2024. And the entire Republican Party is right there with him.
More at https://www.salon.com/2021/08/11/how-trump-blew-his-chance-to-steal-th
e-election-the-clock-was-ticking-he-was-tweeting/
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Why Hasn’t Trump Been Charged For Attempting To Overturn Election?
Many Democrats are nervous about stating that Donald Trump's many attempts to overturn the election were criminal, were violations of the law. Why is Donald Trump not charged with any crimes?
“The real answer,” writes Andrew Reinbach, “is a bad one: It’s how we do things in this country. Jefferson Davis was held for two years but never tried for treason. Lee was indicted, but never tried. No one involved in the Business Plot** was indicted, though the House UnAmerican Activities Committee found they were ready, willing, and able — they just never pulled the trigger. Nixon was allowed to resign, then pardoned. Trump pulled this in hopes of avoiding the pending criminal cases in New York. But, alas, he’ll probably not be indicted for 1/6. He may, however, be convicted in New York. That’ll do.”
** The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch and The White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933 in the United States to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install a dictator. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with Butler as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
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Did we need just another few months in Afghanistan?
In the New York Times today, Fred Kagan has a guest essay titled "Biden Could Have Stopped the Taliban. He Chose Not To." I haven't heard Kagan's name since the heyday of the warbloggers circa 2004, so I was curious to see what he had to say:
"As U.S. military planners well know, the Afghan war has a seasonal pattern. The Taliban leadership retreats to bases, largely in Pakistan, every winter and then launches the group’s fighting season campaign in the spring, moving into high gear in the summer after the poppy harvest. At the very least, the United States should have continued to support the Afghans through this period to help them blunt the Taliban’s latest offensive and buy time to plan for a future devoid of American military assistance. American diplomats could have used this time to negotiate access to regional bases from which to continue counterterrorism operations. Simultaneously, the American military should have prepared contingencies in case those negotiations failed."
In other words, just a few more months would have done it! After 20 years of American training and assistance, after which the Afghan military literally collapsed at the mere sight of Taliban troops, waiting until next year would have made all the difference.
I don't doubt that Kagan is sincere in this belief. That's the problem.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210813112158/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/08/12/opinion/biden-afghanistan-taliban.html
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The US isn't entirely out of Afghanistan. There is still plenty of bombing and covert ops going on. I do wonder how the CIA self-funding heroin business is going on tho. My sense is that despite all appearances, that will carry on as per usual (unless they've largely supplanted that trade with other drugs in other countries and no longer need the Golden Triangle).
Joe* is trying to negotiate with other countries to carry the white man's burden. I guess we'll see just how vital other countries think Afghanistan is to their own welfare.
OH ... yeah. This'll be a good opportunity to see how quickly Afghanistan disappears from the news*. The more we read about how the those poor people are suffering because of US laziness and perfidy, the more it'll appear that the Deep State is still running the Afghanistan War show.
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Quote:It is the Afghan people's laziness and perfidy and general chicken-heartedness causing Afghanistan suffering because there has been only a few thousand Americans there for the last year, while there are 40,000,000 Afghans there at this moment.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
OH ... yeah. This'll be a good opportunity to see how quickly Afghanistan disappears from the news*. The more we read about how the those poor people are suffering because of US laziness and perfidy, the more it'll appear that the Deep State is still running that Afghanistan War show.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Afghanistan
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Despite your claim to Afghani's laziness and perfidy being at the root of their suffering - they were doing just fine until the US decided to fund the Taliban in the 80's. Because ... RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! And then there was the CIA-funded drug trade which put a LOT of money - and weapons - into the hands of the warlords and Taliban, against which common people had no defense.
The obscene volume of money funding the drug trade is unstoppable.
And just to put this back OT: "A thread for Democrats Only" - these policies were pursued vigorously by democrats*.
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Quote:Who are you kidding when you say Afghanistan was doing fine? The Afghans have been the most backward people for thousands of years and they won't change their ways and it is all the fault of 40,000,000 Afghans, not the fault of a few dozen Democrats in DC.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Despite your claim to Afghani's laziness and perfidy being at the root of their suffering - they were doing just fine until the US decided to fund the Taliban in the 80's. Because ... RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! RUSSIA!!! And then there was the CIA-funded drug trade which put a LOT of money - and weapons - into the hands of the warlords and Taliban, against which common people had no defense.
The obscene volume of money funding the drug trade is unstoppable.
And just to put this back OT: "A thread for Democrats Only" - these policies were pursued vigorously by democrats*.
https://www.thoughtco.com/afghanistan-facts-and-history-195107
https://www.press-citizen.com/story/opinion/2021/08/10/collapse-narco-
state-may-bring-misery-afghanistan-and-iowa/5556158001/
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Reign of Terror: How the 9/11 Era Destabilized America and Produced Trump
In his new book, Spencer Ackerman makes the case that the Trump years were the logical conclusion of a multidecade borderless war without end.
Trump internalized and weaponized the war’s most important lesson of all: “The terrorists were whomever you said they were.”
A Pulitzer Prize winner whose work has appeared in the Daily Beast and The Guardian, Ackerman this year chose to go independent, partnering with an editor to publish his journalism via Substack. He spoke to The Intercept about the disconnect in how the U.S. security state has historically responded to the nation’s oldest, deadliest form of terrorism — that of the white supremacist far right — and its world-altering response to the September 11 attacks. Ackerman recounted how events early on in Trump’s presidency, particularly the reemergence of key figures from the war on terror as top administration officials, motivated him to write “Reign of Terror”; spoke about the people whose stories shaped the book; and shared his analysis of the state of the war on terror today — and where it might go next.
More at https://theintercept.com/2021/08/13/reign-of-terror-spencer-ackerman-s
eptember-11/
Download the book for free from mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.ch/search.php?req=Spencer+Ackerman
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blah blah blah ...
There are plenty of 'backwards' indigenous peoples all around the globe who really don't need anybody's 'intervention' to 'improve' them from their 'backward' state so that they can be 'advanced' like us.
Or, more pointedly, like you.
Because seriously, anybody 'backwards' who's like you is in deep mental and moral trouble.
/snicker
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Quote:Afghans will live in the mess they created for themselves. The New York Times ran a piece and got someone to go on the record: A senior officer in the country’s military, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the situation, noted that many Taliban conquests are carried out by a small force of 10 or so fighters from whom it should be easy to take back districts. Yet even if they were to do so, he said, Afghan security forces would be unlikely to hold them because of weak defenses, weak local leaders and a lack of central government support.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Bashir Ahmad Nemani, a local police commander in the northern province of Badakhshan, saw those weaknesses firsthand. The province, including his district of Khwahan, is now almost entirely in the hands of the Taliban — a bitter pill for the government as it was the one area in Afghanistan that resisted the insurgents throughout their reign in the late 1990s.
This time, faced with a Taliban onslaught, Badakhshan’s provincial police chief “promised reinforcements,” said Mr. Nemani. “They never came.” The local militia working with the government quickly collapsed.
“There was no option,” he said. “Everything was destroyed. The police collapsed.” Mr. Nemani fled across the border to Tajikistan with six of his men.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210808210651/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/08/08/world/asia/afghanistan-government-propaganda.html
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Over the past 20 years, the US has spent around $1 trillion in Afghanistan, only to return to square one as soon as it departed. Nation-building is expensive, and US president Joe Biden has chosen to spend the money at home rather than in a hostile, complex overseas environment that he feels is no longer America’s problem. “I do not regret my decision [to pull the US out of Afghanistan],” said Biden on Aug. 10. “Afghan leaders have to come together. They’ve got to fight for themselves, fight for their nation.”
https://qz.com/2047170/why-is-the-us-sending-troops-back-to-afghanista
n/
The Afghans knew since February 2020 that America would leave in 14 months. 17 months later, the Afghans are not fighting effectively for their nation.
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The problem with Republican posturing over guns and abortion
Supporters of banning abortions and unrestricted access to rapid-fire weapons have something in common — a preference for bait and switch debate tactics. They provide emotionally charged justifications for policies that in reality have less politically potent rationales.
This is their response to a dilemma. If they did not use exaggerated melodramatic rhetoric that calls for policies much more disruptive than those they actually support, it would be harder to sway public opinion.
For the anti-choice side, making it illegal for women to decide — based on the circumstances of their lives — whether or not to go through with the difficult process of carrying a pregnancy to term because of the religious or philosophical objections of others is a hard sell. So, they label it "murder." But they lack the courage of their conviction — in this case literally. If abortion is murder, a woman who voluntarily undergoes one is a murderer. Obviously, if she took a one-year-old child to a person who she knew was going to kill the child, and she actively assisted in the act, she should — and would — be criminally liable. But when Donald Trump blurted out that he favored prosecuting the potential mother, he was immediately contradicted by his new-found anti-abortion allies, who understand that the overwhelming majority of people do not favor jailing women who have had abortions because they do not think she has murdered anyone.
Of course, an objection may be made to abortion on moral, religious or other grounds. But invoking the forces of the criminal law to make this argument legally binding on those who disagree is much harder to justify than demanding an end to unpunished murder.
In the case of those who wish to allow untrammeled access to automatic weapons and to prevent effective pre-sale background checks on the suitability of gun purchasers, the bait is the people’s right to resist an oppressive government.
More at https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/567102-the-problem-with-posturing
-over-guns-and-abortion
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You said you were in the military.
Quit throwing around the term automatic like a Democrat.
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Quote:It was Barney Frank, the Democrat who wrote the article, using "automatic". The bigger point Frank was making is about how these so-called "debates" with Republicans never get to the bottom of why Republicans make their arguments in the way they do. There is a world of difference between how Republicans think and how successful people think, but Republicans think it is unfair that they have change how they think if they wannabe a success. They handle that by insisting they are already successful and retreating into their delusions of superiority, very much the same thing that the Confederates did before the Civil War.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You said you were in the military.
Quit throwing around the term automatic like a Democrat.
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Thursday night on Fox News, Laura Ingraham straightforwardly expressed the key challenge for capitalism: How can bosses get people to do awful, degrading jobs for little pay in order to make other people rich?
Capitalism has been grappling with this problem for hundreds of years, but as history and Ingraham show, the answer now is the same as it’s always been: The laboring classes must be forced into circumstances in which they must work or starve.
Laura Ingraham: "What if we just cut off the unemployment? Hunger is a pretty powerful thing."
After the passage of the U.K.’s Slavery Abolition Act of 1833, British officials openly debated what they were going to do once the people they’d enslaved were free to just leave the plantations. One key issue, particularly in the West Indies, was that there was a great deal of public land that could be claimed and farmed by anyone.
“Where there is land enough to yield an abundant subsistence to the whole population in return for slight labour,” wrote Lord Glenelg, the U.K. secretary of state for war and the colonies, “they will probably have no sufficient inducement to prefer the more toilsome existence of a regular labourer.”
The solution was obvious: Put a high price on the public land so the laboring population didn’t have the option to support themselves on it. This worked, and the British were largely able to convert their former slaves into their new employees.
Anyone who’s ever had a bad job — not just, say, cutting sugar cane, but also working the cash register at Burger King or selling shoes at JCPenney — knows that human beings will generally avoid this kind of work if they can.
It is also true that for an economy to function, there is a ton of work that has to be done. But what’s needed to make this happen depends on what you believe about human nature. Conservatives think people are fundamentally greedy and lazy, and so they must be forced to work by the lash of hunger. Ingraham once dated Larry Summers, treasury secretary during the Clinton administration and a director of the National Economic Council for President Barack Obama, who recently explained that it would be bad to allow people to work less because they’ll just use it to drink beer and watch TV. They clearly see humans the same way.
By contrast, progressives believe that people, under the right circumstances, are fundamentally creative and reasonable and will do the work with the correct incentives. Crucially, these incentives aren’t just about money and the length of the work week. It’s true that capitalism’s bad jobs tend to require long hours and are underpaid. But what makes bad jobs bad is as much or more the lack of control that employees have over working conditions and hence their lives in general.
“Maverick!: The Success Story Behind the World’s Most Unusual Workplace,” a book by Brazilian businessperson Ricardo Semler, describes how Semler transformed an industrial corporation he inherited from his father that was conventionally hierarchical into one that is largely democratically run. One key change is that employees choose their own salaries, and everyone’s salary is public. This would seem outlandish to American businesses — obviously, given the opportunity, workers will go nuts and bankrupt the company! — but the management of Semler’s corporation found that employees, with real control over their working lives and a genuine desire for the whole enterprise to succeed, tended to underpay themselves. Often the company had to encourage employees to pay themselves more.
Whether companies structured like Semler’s could work everywhere is unknown, since capitalism and capitalists generally hate the prospect of surrendering control. But there’s no reason for everyone else to think that work must be about a small number of people giving orders and the rest of us obeying them. For that reason, we should all be grateful to Laura Ingraham for making so clear the perspective of the employing class. Anything that gives us the ability to subsist without jobs, a
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Originally posted by second:
Laura Ingraham: "What if we just cut off the unemployment? Hunger is a pretty powerful thing."
Careful, Laura...
That's the same type of thinking that Leftists trying to inject untested vaccines in everyone is using. And since you goons at Fox"News" like to all pretend that you're religious, it's also very close to Mark of the Beast talk too.
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Anyone who’s ever had a bad job — not just, say, cutting sugar cane, but also working the cash register at Burger King or selling shoes at JCPenney — knows that human beings will generally avoid this kind of work if they can.
25 years ago, these jobs were almost exclusively done by kids for fun money and to save for college which was quite affordable compared to prices today.
Now that we've shipped all the manufacturing AND most of the tech jobs out of the country, grown ass men and women are fighting for these shit jobs, often working 2 or even 3 of them at the same time just to get by. No health insurance at the same time either, since in most states they've priced themselves out of state assistance by working multiple part-time jobs to pay the bills.
What a way to live.
Laura Ingraham was born with a silver spoon up her ass and has never worked a day in her life, just like all of the other crooked media personalities and politicians.
Go flip your own fucking burgers bitch.
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Quote:You are wrong. 50 years ago adults were working those crappy jobs. 6ix, my father worked at Burger King for pennies. I worked there too until the pain of standing on my feet all day made me follow my sisters' example of going to college. They became a nurse and a school teacher. I became an engineer because it was manly, graduating when I was 25 years old, 4 years older than my sisters when they graduated because I made a wrong decision by detouring into Vietnam. My brother-in-law worked for JCPenney . . . selling shoes. He votes for Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Anyone who’s ever had a bad job — not just, say, cutting sugar cane, but also working the cash register at Burger King or selling shoes at JCPenney — knows that human beings will generally avoid this kind of work if they can.
25 years ago, these jobs were almost exclusively done by kids for fun money and to save for college which was quite affordable compared to prices today.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are wrong. 40 years ago adults were working those crappy jobs. 6ix, my father worked at Burger King for pennies. I worked there too until the pain of standing on my feet all day made me follow my sisters' example of going to college. They became a nurse and a school teacher. I became an engineer because it was manly, graduating when I was 25 years old, 4 years older than my sisters when they graduated because I made a wrong decision by detouring into Vietnam. My brother-in-law worked for JCPenney . . . selling shoes. He votes for Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Anyone who’s ever had a bad job — not just, say, cutting sugar cane, but also working the cash register at Burger King or selling shoes at JCPenney — knows that human beings will generally avoid this kind of work if they can.
25 years ago, these jobs were almost exclusively done by kids for fun money and to save for college which was quite affordable compared to prices today.
That's the problem with anecdotal evidence then, I'm afraid.
Where I lived, in the mid to late 90's when I had a shitty job, the only ones doing shitty jobs around me were the kids. Outside of the customers, the only adults in those buildings were management.
P.S. And seriously dude. Why am I still hearing about Trump from you every single day?
If you haven't noticed, we've got a new douche in office screwing everything up right now.
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Quote:Is Trump dead? No. Is Trump highly regarded in Texas? Yes.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's the problem with anecdotal evidence then, I'm afraid.
Where I lived, in the mid to late 90's when I had a shitty job, the only ones doing shitty jobs around me were the kids. Outside of the customers, the only adults in those buildings were management.
P.S. And seriously dude. Why am I still hearing about Trump from you every single day?
If you haven't noticed, we've got a new douche in office screwing everything up right now.
Is Biden screwing up? No. Is Biden poorly regarded in Texas? Yes.
Those are what you call anecdotal evidence.
If you asked Americans in a poll, what would be their the answer to "How many Vietnamese died in the Vietnam War?" Before Google, Americans would say 100,000. After Google? 3,000,000. More anecdotal evidence.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/afghanistan-kabul-taliban-
fall-of-saigon-vietnam-comparison.html
If you google What percent of population are working poor you will be enlightened. The percentage is NOT constant over time. And it is not the same in every state in any particular year.
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+percent+of+population+are+working
+poor
I'm not capable of explaining in a way that would change your mind, because I have tried many times with real people who are in the same location as I am, for example when we are hunting, but this is true: the world around you is actually not the same world as you see it from inside your head. Maybe their eyesight is poor; maybe they don't pay sufficient attention; maybe their beliefs are a poor guide to reality; maybe it is their personality; maybe ... you could go on and on. For many reasons, most people will never understand the world-outside is not the world-inside until the world kills them or collapses on them. The few people who do adjust their world-inside to match the actual world-outside tend to do MUCH better and live longer, as would a near-sighted person who gets eyeglasses or has cataracts removed late in life, but the rest of humanity can't be bothered to adjust their vision. They already believe their vision is almost perfect, but they go through life almost blind, bumping into things unless they keep to routine and keep far away from new/complicated environments.
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A story about mental illness: The Millions of Christs of America
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2021/08/the-millions-of-christs-
of-america.html
As an undergraduate History major, I reluctantly dug up a halfway natural science class to fulfill my college’s general education requirement. It was called Psychology as a Natural Science. However, the massive textbook assigned to us turned out to be chock full of interesting tidbits ranging from optical illusions to odd tales. One of the oddest was the story of Leon, Joseph, and Clyde: three men who each fervently believed he was Jesus Christ. The three originally did not know each other, but a social psychologist named Milton Rokeach brought them together for two years in an Ypsilanti, Michigan mental hospital to experiment on them. He later wrote a book titled The Three Christs of Ypsilanti.
Rokeach hypothesized that since Jesus exists by the same code that the Immortals in Highlander later stated as “There can only be one,” these three men might be cured of their delusions when confronted with others who insisted likewise. Of course he was very wrong. Much like Highlander’s Immortals, they simply fell into conflict. When faced with the others’ unrelenting presence, each dug their heels in and doubled down on their delusions. Even Rokeach’s jaw-dropping manipulations, which included a string of outrageous lies and elaborate fabrications, could not dissuade them.
I’ve recently been pondering this infamous tale of poorly conceived psychological experimentation because in it I see reflections of problems currently plaguing America. Except instead of being thrown together in confinement, people with similar mental disorders are now finding each other on their own. And instead of a psychological professional at least trying (albeit in a highly flawed manner) to cure them, the medium of connection is the largely unregulated and even more manipulative internet. And, finally, instead of insisting there can only be one, mentally ill people are now reinforcing and reduplicating each other’s delusions.
Of course you don’t have to be mentally ill to believe most of the world wide web’s whack-a-doo conspiracy theories. One need merely be stupid or gullible, or in most cases perhaps, just a bit desperate. Take for example the entirely discredited “theory” that childhood vaccines cause autism. It is very understandable that the trauma of conceiving and parenting a severely autistic child would break someone just a little bit, to the point that they demand an explanation that satisfies them more than what we currently know about autism’s causes, which is very little. For some, “very little” just won’t do. Furthermore, the little we do know, including that genetics might be a factor, may contribute to a sense of misplaced guilt that some simply cannot shoulder, leading them to grasp at whatever else is out there. And what’s out there is an internet-fueled story about vaccines.
Funnel it through the internet, and suddenly it’s the conspiracy theory that’s infectious, spreading from the desperate to the naive. By 2011, 18% of Americans believed this incredibly dangerous hooey. That’s roughly 50 million people.
Likewise, you don’t have to be mentally ill to sincerely believe that the Earth is flat, that the Holocaust is a hoax, that the moon landing was faked, that Princess Diana was murdered, that 9-11 was an inside job, or that JFK was killed by the CIA or the Mafia or the Cubans. You might very well be mentally ill. But you don’t have to be.
However, as we move up the ladder to more and more ludicrous internet conspiracy theories, it begins to seem as if some sort of mental illness is a prerequisite for full faith. That is not a professional assertion. Psychology as a Natural Science was a fun course, but not life changing. I stuck with my major and became a Historian, not a mental health professional, and I respect professional boundaries. But just as any reasonable person can make lay interpretations about the past, any reasonable person
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Another story about mental illness:
Malignant normality: The psychological theory that explains naked emperors, narcissists and Nazis
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/12/malignant-normality-the-psychological
-theory-that-explains-naked-emperors-narcissists-and-nazis/
There are many variations to Hans Christian Andersen's classic literary folktale "The Emperor's New Clothes," but most have the same basic plot points: A vain emperor is duped by two con men into buying clothes that don't exist. They trick him by saying that the non-existent fabric is actually visible, but only stupid and incompetent people can't see it. The emperor pretends that he can see the clothes, and then ordinary people follow his lead — whether because they believe him, or because they are simply afraid to state otherwise. It is only when a child blurts out that he is naked that the illusion is shattered.
Andersen was unfamiliar with the psychological concept known as malignant normality, but his tale captures it perfectly. The folktale also teaches an important lesson about standing by one's own common sense, even when social pressures are insurmountable, and remembering that confidence in your correctness is not enough on its own — particularly if those around you don't buy in too. And the idea — of a narcissist with power and/or popularity normalizing an "alternate reality" that is patently absurd — clearly has analogues in schoolyard politics, global politics, and everything in-between.
The concept of malignant normality, as explained by psychiatrist Dr. Robert Jay Lifton, is rooted in history — specifically, in our understanding of Nazi Germany. Lifton argued that many Nazi doctors weren't active ideologues, but were willing to send Jews to gas chambers because this was their job — even though they had taken a hippocratic oath.
The reality of institutionalized genocide, which had not seemed plausible to Germans only a dozen years earlier, had become a malignant normal. Not everyone had to buy into the ideas of Nazism, at least not in full. They simply had to live in a society where actions that would usually be considered atrocious are instead perceived as routine. In turn, while they didn't have to believe in Hitler's lies, they had to at least accept that a social order based around those lies could be legitimate. The moral system and fundamental political beliefs of millions of people had been radically altered — and all of it based on a narcissist's word.
That last detail — and all of it based on a narcissist's word — is crucial to understanding malignant normality, clinical psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula told Salon.
More at https://www.salon.com/2021/08/12/malignant-normality-the-psychological
-theory-that-explains-naked-emperors-narcissists-and-nazis/
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's the problem with anecdotal evidence then, I'm afraid.
Where I lived, in the mid to late 90's when I had a shitty job, the only ones doing shitty jobs around me were the kids. Outside of the customers, the only adults in those buildings were management.
P.S. And seriously dude. Why am I still hearing about Trump from you every single day?
If you haven't noticed, we've got a new douche in office screwing everything up right now.
FACTS:
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Is Trump dead? No. Is Trump highly regarded in Texas? Yes.
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Is Biden screwing up? No.
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Is Biden poorly regarded in Texas? Yes.
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Those are what you call anecdotal evidence.
No. You have no idea what anecdotal evidence is. Go look it up.
I've grown weary conversing with the retarded.
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The Tax Policy Center estimates that last year nearly 107 million households, or about 61 percent, owed no income tax or even received tax credits from the government. The share of non-payers will decline to about 102 million or 57 percent this year.
The importance of the refundable credits is clear when you look at families with children. For example, this year 70 percent of all those families and 84 percent of unmarried people with dependents (who file as heads of household) will pay no federal income tax.
More at https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/covid-19-pandemic-drove-huge-te
mporary-increase-households-did-not-pay-federal-income-tax
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A Conservative brilliantly explains what is wrong with angry white men
During an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," conservative commentator and U.S. Naval War College professor Tom Nichols went into an extended explanation about the rising tide of angry middle-aged white men that helped fuel the rise of Donald Trump and why their reasoning is dead wrong.
Promoting his book, "Our Own Worst Enemy: The Assault from Within of our Modern Democracy," Nichols explained that they are wallowing in "poisonous nostalgia" because they believe the world is coming apart before their eyes.
"We want to believe things are not our fault and things are so terrible and we would do better and wouldn't have to be so angry if things weren't so awful all the time," he told host Joe Scarborough. "Every age has its advantages and disadvantages. but the notion that somehow in 2021 -- when we're living longer, healthier, the world is mostly at peace, whether people want to believe that or not, it's true -- people want to believe this is the worst time ever, and it's a poisonous nostalgia that looks back and there's no way a democratic government can keep up with that unless they can invent a time machine."
With co-host Willie Geist asking about former president Donald Trump running on lost jobs as part of his "Make America Great Again" campaign, Nichols explained that the decline of industrial jobs is not a recent phenomenon.
"I do not come from a privileged family, my parents were Depression-era high school dropouts. I grew up among factories that by the time I was a child were empty and rotting, " he recalled. "I played in abandoned -- with abandoned equipment and empty factories and coal yards and railroad trestles. I write about that this morning in USA Today, there are two things about that. A lot of that happened before people were willing to admit that happened. I talked to a friend in a book and said I remember when all those factories were full. I said that was impossible; we broke the windows in that factory when we were 11, like 50 years ago. People have convinced themselves there was once this golden age they remember that was only taken away in the last few years."
"I had a friend who, you know, working-class guy I went to school with since we were small children, spends his weekends on his boat, and he says everything is changed, it's awful."
"What he means is the street we grew up on, we had a neighborhood barber, candy store and diner, and one of them is an antique shop now, another is a Spanish storefront church, and the library is closed," he elaborated. "He just wants it to be -- it's like a mid-life crisis for a lot of white males for whom they want it to be 1969 again. I think that the problem of becoming a minority is really anxiety-producing for a lot of them. But again, the answer to that is more democracy, not some kind of illiberal backlash and trying to turn the clock back by force. But they've been told by politicians and political entrepreneurs that with just enough willpower and rage and anger and resentment they can turn the hands of time back and, you know, make it 1965 again."
"I think anyone who is nostalgic for the 1970s - I talk about this in the book -- people see the 70s as a benchmark," he added. "I was a teenager in the 70s and I can not imagine a decade I would rather not go back to in my hometown and the way I grew up. But people have, you know, sanitized these memories and turned them into sepia-toned photographs in their minds that aren't true."
More at https://www.rawstory.com/angry-white-men-trump/
Our Own Worst Enemy
https://www.amazon.com/Our-Own-Worst-Enemy-Democracy/dp/0197518877/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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A Conservative brilliantly explains what is wrong with angry white men...
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...Promoting his book...
Fuck your book dude.
Enjoy Trump for 4 more years once we vote him in again.
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Quote:I know you will want to read the book called The Death Of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge. From introduction:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck your book dude.
Enjoy Trump for 4 more years once we vote him in again.
Back in the late 1980s, when I was working in Washington, DC, I learned how quickly people in even casual conversation would immediately instruct me in what needed to be done in any number of areas, especially in my own areas of arms control and foreign policy. (As usual, it was what “they” should do, as in “they ought to ....”) I was young and not yet a seasoned expert, but I was astonished at the way people who did not have the first clue about those subjects would confidently direct me on how best to make peace between Moscow and Washington.
To some extent, this was understandable. Politics invites discussion. And especially during the Cold War, when the stakes were global annihilation, people wanted to be heard. I accepted that this was just part of the cost of doing business in the public policy world. Over time, I found that other specialists in various policy areas had the same experiences, with laypeople subjecting them to ill-informed disquisitions on taxes, budgets, immigration, the environment, and many other subjects. If you’re a policy expert, it goes with the job.
In later years, however, I started hearing the same stories from doctors. And from lawyers. And from teachers. And, as it turns out, from many other professionals whose advice is usually not contradicted easily. These stories astonished me: they were not about patients or clients asking sensible questions, but about those same patients and clients actively telling professionals why their advice was wrong. In every case, the idea that the expert knew what he or she was doing was dismissed almost out of hand.
Worse, what I find so striking today is not that people dismiss expertise, but that they do so with such frequency, on so many issues, and with such anger. Again, it may be that attacks on expertise are more obvious due to the ubiquity of the Internet, the undisciplined nature of conversation on social media, or the demands of the twenty-four-hour news cycle. But there is a self-righteousness and fury to this new rejection of expertise that suggest, at least to me, that this isn’t just mistrust or questioning or the pursuit of alternatives: it is narcissism, coupled to a disdain for expertise as some sort of exercise in self-actualization.
This makes it all the harder for experts to push back and to insist that people come to their senses. No matter what the subject, the argument always goes down the drain of an enraged ego and ends with minds unchanged, sometimes with professional relationships or even friendships damaged. Instead of arguing, experts today are supposed to accept such disagreements as, at worst, an honest difference of opinion. We are supposed to “agree to disagree,” a phrase now used indiscriminately as little more than a conversational fire extinguisher. And if we insist that not everything is a matter of opinion, that some things are right and others are wrong ... well, then we’re just being jerks, apparently.
The Death Of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why it Matters by Thomas M. Nichols
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/46750905-the-death-of-expertise-
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I know you will want to read the book called The Death Of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck your book dude.
Enjoy Trump for 4 more years once we vote him in again.
Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.
I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.
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Hey. Where's Ted, BTW?
Finally realized what a fuck up voting for Biden* was and in hiding, I presume.
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Quote:Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time. I will quote from the 2021 version:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.
I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.
Chapter 4 Social Proof
Truths Are Us
When people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate one another. —Eric Hoffer
A few years ago, the managers of a chain of restaurants in Beijing, China, partnered with researchers to accomplish something decidedly profitable—increasing the purchase of certain menu items in a way that was effective yet costless. They wanted to see if they could get customers to choose them more frequently without lowering the items’ prices or using more expensive ingredients or hiring a chef who had more experience with the dishes or paying a consultant to write more enticing descriptions of them on the menu. They wanted to see if, instead, they could just give the dishes a label that would do the trick. Although they found a label that worked particularly well, they were surprised it wasn’t one they’d thought to use previously for this purpose, such as “Specialty of the house” or “Our chef’s recommendation for tonight.” Rather, the label merely described the menu items as the restaurant’s “most popular.”
The outcome was impressive. Sales of each dish jumped by an average of 13 to 20 percent. Quite simply, the dishes became more popular because of their popularity. Notably, the increase occurred through a persuasive practice that was costless, completely ethical (the items were indeed the most popular), easy to implement, and yet never before employed by the managers. Something similar happened in London when a local brewery with a pub on its premises agreed to try an experiment. The pub placed a sign on the bar stating, truthfully, that the brewery’s most popular beer that week was its porter. Porter sales doubled immediately. Click, run.
https://libgen.unblockit.ch/search.php?req=Robert+B.+Cialdini
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.
I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.
That Jamaican took every last dime with that scam.
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse
I'm always adding to my tool collection.
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Quote:Slights of Hand, Tool Collection -- what cute names for being a cheating, lying crook who hasn't been caught. 6ix, you (and every Trumptard I know) don't care that Trump hasn't paid his taxes. The excuse for not caring? IRS already has his tax returns which claim he paid nothing for 20 years because of, ha-ha, "deductions". With Trumptards it is okay for Trump to legally swindle the IRS out of tax payments until the IRS stumbles upon the swindle. As with every tax return, it is not the IRS calculating Trump's taxes. It is Trump calculating his own taxes. Completely accidentally, Nixon got caught cheating, but he wasn't caught by the IRS and he didn't voluntarily "correct" his tax return, ha-ha, "errors". If the IRS had collected the taxes owed by cheaters in the last 52 years since Nixon cheated in 1969, the IRS would have collected an additional $52 trillion, adjusted for inflation, which is much larger than the national debt of $29 trillion. That is the consequence of not punishing cheating, lying crooks who vote for Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.
I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.
That Jamaican took every last dime with that scam.
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse
I'm always adding to my tool collection.
Nixon's Troublesome Tax Returns
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Slights of Hand, Tool Collection -- what cute names for being a cheating, lying crook who hasn't been caught.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you working on a legal way to swindle fools out of their money, 6ix? Because if you aren't working on a swindle, yet you're reading that book, you're wasting your time.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. I'm reading Influence: The Power of Persuasion right now.
I don't waste my time with pseudo-intellectual books written for pseudo-intellectuals by pseudo-intellectuals.
That Jamaican took every last dime with that scam.
It was worth it just to learn some slight of hand.
~Modest Mouse
I'm always adding to my tool collection.
Nah.
I buy a lot of actual tools. Pretty much anytime any job comes up that most people would pay somebody else to do I end up doing it myself at a fraction of the cost, buying the tools that I need to do the job, and also adding the tool of knowledge about how to get the job done next time it comes up. Like when I saved my neighbor's garage with a pole jack last fall that certainly would have caved in this February when we had 40" of snow that sat on our roofs for 3 weeks straight.
A job I did for free for them, I might add.
But the obligation has been planted. If I ever need a favor, they're obligated.
I don't need to scam people to get what I want. I have a lot of tools at my disposal to actually genuinely give something valuable in return for something else valuable.
And unlike most Americans, I have a lot of free time at a relatively young age to facilitate this on a fairly large scale if and when I so choose. There's no need to gouge anybody. You already know that I'm excellent with money and I don't need much to get by.
As for the book, there's nothing wrong with adding some mental tools to my arsenal dealing with the psychology of people and using that to further my advantage.
But you keep reading your crybaby books written by crybabies for crybabies and wondering why you never have any productive days and why nobody listens to anything you say or does anything you ask them to do.
I appears to have worked really well for you so far.
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Quote:The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that peacefully settling political differences is the only way. Talk, followed by more talk, followed by additional discussions, followed by reasoning with crooks about the benefits for all of society when the crooks stop being liars. But if the Democrats want government that doesn't run up a huge debt, the Democrats will have to force people like Trump to pay taxes. The Democrats won't be able to talk him into complying with tax laws. He will simply talk back, forever, and not pay. For that matter, the kind of people who vote for Trump, with their slights of hand and tool collections of dishonest techniques, won't comply without being forced.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
But you keep reading your crybaby books written by crybabies for crybabies and wondering why you never have any productive days and why nobody listens to anything you say or does anything you ask them to do.
I appears to have worked really well for you so far.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that peacefully settling political differences is the only way. Talk, followed by more talk, followed by additional discussions, followed by reasoning with crooks about the benefits for all of society when the crooks stop being liars. But if the Democrats want government that doesn't run up a huge debt, the Democrats will have to force people like Trump to pay taxes. The Democrats won't be able to talk him into complying with tax laws. He will simply talk back, forever, and not pay. For that matter, the kind of people who vote for Trump, with their slights of hand and tool collections of dishonest techniques, won't comply without being forced.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
But you keep reading your crybaby books written by crybabies for crybabies and wondering why you never have any productive days and why nobody listens to anything you say or does anything you ask them to do.
I appears to have worked really well for you so far.
The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that they somehow have a monopoly on virtue.
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Quote:Before and during the Civil War, the Confederates literally could not stop talking about how morally, spiritually and even militarily superior they were to those social justice warriors (SJW) who condemned the Biblical approved system of slavery. There was no way to change the Confederates' minds about their own superiority because, for a long while, the Confederates actually were militarily superior and they had all the wealth they needed from their cotton plantations to prove their superior manners. In modern Texas, most of the Trump voters would fit right into the Confederacy because they haven't changed their psychology of being the best in their own imaginations without being more than mediocre in reality. Being only mediocre, they struggle to stay in the middle class, but believing they are superior, they can't believe their struggles are their fault. It's got to be the SJW's fault.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that they somehow have a monopoly on virtue.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Before and during the Civil War, the Confederates literally could not stop talking about how morally, spiritually and even militarily superior they were to those social justice warriors (SJW) who condemned the Biblical approved system of slavery. There was no way to change the Confederates' minds about their own superiority because, for a long while, the Confederates actually were militarily superior and they had all the wealth they needed from their cotton plantations to prove their superior manners. In modern Texas, most of the Trump voters would fit right into the Confederacy because they haven't changed their psychology of being the best in their own imaginations without being more than mediocre in reality. Being only mediocre, they struggle to stay in the middle class, but believing they are superior, they can't believe their struggles are their fault. It's got to be the SJW's fault.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The fundamentally wrong idea that most Democrats live by is that they somehow have a monopoly on virtue.
If you're going to bring up some dumb old shit that's not even related to the point, I'll just point out that Southern Democrats were confederates and that Abe Lincoln was a Republican. Hillary Clinton spent her life blowing Robert Byrd.
It's not even worth conversing with you anymore on this topic since you won't just admit that there are plenty of shitty people in every party. I don't know what's so hard about that dude. It's very easy to see.
You need to detach your identity from the Democrat Party. Until you do that, you'll never get healthy.
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“In my books I’ve imagined people salting the Gulf Stream, damming the glaciers sliding off the Greenland ice cap, pumping ocean water into the dry basins of the Sahara and Asia to create salt seas, pumping melted ice from Antarctica north to provide freshwater, genetically engineering bacteria to sequester more carbon in the roots of trees, raising Florida 30 feet to get it back above water, and (hardest of all) comprehensively changing capitalism.”
-Science fiction writer Kim Stanley Robinson, “Earth: Under Repair Forever,” OnEarth, December 3, 2012.
Kim Stanley Robinson: a climate plan for a world in flames
https://www.ft.com/content/ff94df96-b702-4e01-addd-f4253d0eecf6
Kim Stanley Robinson, August 19, 2021
What does it feel like to live on the brink of a vast historical change? It feels like now.
Of course that sounds hyperbolic, and maybe even panicky, but I think we’re there. Not that a science fiction writer can see the future any better than anyone else; very often worse. But between the pandemic, the accelerating drumbeat of extreme weather events and the accumulations of data and analysis from the scientific community, it’s become an easy call.
A few weeks ago, my wife and I drove across the US east to west. In Wyoming, we hit a pall of wildfire smoke so thick that we couldn’t see the mountains just a few miles away on each side of the road. It went on like that for 1,000 miles.
Then we arrived in California just in time for the latest report from the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which documents in meticulous detail the true scale of the climate problem. Humanity now stands on the brink of not just change, but disaster. And because we can see it coming, just as clear as a black storm on the horizon, our attempts to dodge disaster and create a healthy relationship with our only home will bring huge changes in our habits, laws, institutions and technologies.
All this is visible to us now. Unlike the people living in the years before the first world war, we won’t be sandbagged by catastrophe. The 2020s will not be filled with surprises — except perhaps at the speed and intensity of the changes coming down. With its atmosphere of dread foreboding, our time more resembles the years preceding the second world war, when everyone lived with a sensation of helplessly sliding down a slippery slope and over a cliff.
But historical analogies will take us only so far in understanding our current situation, since we have never before been able to wreck our own means of existence. Scientists coined the name the Anthropocene to signal that this moment in history is unprecedented. There are so many of us, and our technologies are so powerful, and our social systems so heedless of consequences, that our damage to Earth’s biosphere has increased with stunning speed.
Many historians refer to the period since the second world war as the Great Acceleration, and the harmful aspects of the changes we’ve initiated have immense biological and geophysical momentum. We can’t just gather our diplomats and call it off, declare peace with the biosphere.
Although we did do that, in 2015: it’s called the Paris agreement. But that was an agreement to start a process of change, which we now have to live up to if it is to become real. We in effect agreed to decarbonise our civilisation across the board: in energy generation, transport, construction — everything. But since all these activities were run largely by the burning of fossil fuels, this change is a stupendous challenge, equivalent to the mobilisations made in the 20th century to fight world wars.
Whether we can muster that kind of intense effort now is an open question. Not everyone is yet convinced that such an effort is necessary, and there are vested interests — not just private individuals or corporations, but many of the most powerful nations on Earth — deeply committed to continuing to burn fossil fuels.
So the Paris agreement could end up as something like the League of Nations, a nice idea that failed. But if we fail
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Quote:I've got to repeat myself because you keep misunderstanding. Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, has all the same complaints you have. Until yesterday I had never read the Unabomber Manifesto. The Unabomber does not attach his complaints specifically to the Democratic Party, but there aren't any Trump voters who like what the Unabomber dislikes. Before the Unabomber was jailed, he was just a nut who was killing/maiming "Leftists" with mailed bombs for unknown reasons, but now that I have read the Unabomber Manafesto, it is unsurprising that Trump voters and the Unabomber dislike the same people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you're going to bring up some dumb old shit that's not even related to the point, I'll just point out that Southern Democrats were confederates and that Abe Lincoln was a Republican. Hillary Clinton spent her life blowing Robert Byrd.
It's not even worth conversing with you anymore on this topic since you won't just admit that there are plenty of shitty people in every party. I don't know what's so hard about that dude. It's very easy to see.
You need to detach your identity from the Democrat Party. Until you do that, you'll never get healthy.
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Two paragraphs from the Unabomber Manifesto:
229. The leftist is oriented toward large-scale collectivism. He emphasizes the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. He has a negative attitude toward individualism. He often takes a moralistic tone. He tends to be for gun control, for sex education and other psychologically "enlightened" educational methods, for social planning, for affirmative action, for multiculturalism. He tends to identify with victims. He tends to be against competition and against violence, but he often finds excuses for those leftists who do commit violence. He is fond of using the common catch-phrases of the left, like "racism," "sexism," "homophobia," "capitalism," "imperialism," "neocolonialism," "genocide," "social change," "social justice," "social responsibility." Maybe the best diagnostic trait of the leftist is his tendency to sympathize with the following movements: feminism, gay rights, ethnic rights, disability rights, animal rights, political correctness. Anyone who strongly sympathizes with ALL of these movements is almost certainly a leftist. [36]
230. The more dangerous leftists, that is, those who are most power-hungry, are often characterized by arrogance or by a dogmatic approach to ideology. However, the most dangerous leftists of all may be certain oversocialized types who avoid irritating displays of aggressiveness and refrain from advertising their leftism, but work quietly and unobtrusively to promote collectivist values, "enlightened" psychological techniques for socializing children, dependence of the individual on the system, and so forth. These crypto-leftists (as we may call them) approximate certain bourgeois types as far as practical action is concerned, but differ from them in psychology, ideology and motivation. The ordinary bourgeois tries to bring people under control of the system in order to protect his way of life, or he does so simply because his attitudes are conventional. The crypto-leftist tries to bring people under control of the system because he is a True Believer in a collectivistic ideology. The crypto-leftist is differentiated from the average leftist of the oversocialized type by the fact that his rebellious impulse is weaker and he is more securely socialized.
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Hitler liked dogs.
Hitler was a Nazi.
If you like dogs, you're a Nazi.
Shut up, boy.
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Quote:I was thinking about Firefly story where Mal is trying to persuade settlers to get aboard Serenity, but the settlers give a whole litany of tiresome reasons/excuses to not, mostly around price and schedule -- price is too high, schedule is too soon. River starts the fan-jets and closing the ramp while Mal is outside talking-talking-talking with those settlers.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hitler liked dogs.
Hitler was a Nazi.
If you like dogs, you're a Nazi.
Shut up, boy.
Mal gets aboard damn quick and demands River land so he can keep talking even more and make a little money transporting the settlers. River says, "They will talk you to death." She is not very communicative with Mal, beyond those words and she will not allow Mal to take control.
One day later, Reavers land and kill the settlers. Only then does River explain, in her usual cryptic manner, that she knew the Reavers were coming and knew that the settlers won't believe her and won't change their minds until the Reavers are entering the atmosphere. At that point, Serenity would have been first thing the Reavers attacked and the settlers the second thing.
River saved as many people as possible, despite Mal's propensity to talk too much and negotiate fruitlessly. He is really poor at running a business and sometimes that almost kills Mal and his crew. Similarly, Democrats talk too much and negotiate fruitlessly when they could learn a lesson from River: if Trump voters don't get it after a few minutes, leave them for the Reavers to eat.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Similarly, Democrats talk too much and negotiate fruitlessly when they could learn a lesson from River: if Trump voters don't get it after a few minutes, leave them for the Reavers to eat.
Said by the biggest dumbass windbag to ever post on FFF.
Go away then.
Nobody takes anything you say seriously anyhow.
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Quote:My parents were exactly the kind of people who would have voted for Trump. They struggled to stay in the middle class, same as typical Trumptards. It took the Vietnam War to convince me that the people all around me, that I depended on, and even my parents, did not know what they were talking about. The way they believed how money and business works was childishly naive. Their worries over Communism and Socialism were ridiculous. Their understanding of the stock market was absurd. So many things wrong about their beliefs and they wouldn't change anything because they knew they were right. I proved them wrong. Despite them saying often 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating' the proof never changed their minds. It was amusing to listen to their explanations of why doing things the opposite of the way they would do it cannot possibly work. But work it did. Oh, and I didn't cheat on my taxes like some people (Trump) I know.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Similarly, Democrats talk too much and negotiate fruitlessly when they could learn a lesson from River: if Trump voters don't get it after a few minutes, leave them for the Reavers to eat.
Said by the biggest dumbass windbag to ever post on FFF.
Go away then.
Nobody takes anything you say seriously anyhow.
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I'm still waiting for you to show yourself to be smarter than the average Democrat and stop talking.
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Residents of California:
Next month will see a recall election for Gavin Newsom. If you want to impede rightwing efforts to continue undermining democracy, please vote 'No' on recalling Newsom. Here's why:
1. If a Republican candidate is elected, they have the power to appoint new senators if one dies in office or has to otherwise leave.
2. California Senator Dianne Feinstein is 88 years old. If she dies or has to leave office, the new Republican governor could appoint a replacement, who will be all-but guaranteed to be Republican. If this happens, the 50-50 split in the Senate will be tilted in favor of the Republicans.
3. If the Republicans take control of the Senate, it will all but doom any chance to pass legislation that will protect democracy, such as universal voting rights. This will subsequently make it easier for the Republican party to continue passing laws in individual states making it easier for them to win elections. And if this happens, the Republicans will cement their minority rule for a generation, and possibly much longer.
Gavin Newsom is not the best governor (if you truly cannot stand him, you can always vote him out in next year's gubernatorial election), but the balance in the Senate will hold if he remains in power, and right-wing efforts to undermine democracy will continue to be blunted.
On the 14th, please vote 'NO' on recalling Newsom. This election may seem trivial, but all of us must do our part to help protect our Democracy and give it a fighting chance to survive.
More about How California’s bizarre recall system could elect a Republican governor at
https://www.vox.com/22617048/california-recall-gavin-newsom-larry-elde
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Polls say that Newsom looks to be recalled, and the Dem Party is losing its collective shit. I know bc I'm a registered Dem, and the # of spam phone calls on the topic has become intolerable. We get more than eight a day.
When I engage with any of these callers - which is seldom - I get the same canned spam that SECONRATE posted, along with the added feature
Republicans from out of state are funding the recall effort!! You don't want those [uout of state Republicans to determine our governor, do you???
Yeah, like Dems in California never funded a Dem in Minnesota? Seriously? Between the endless lockdowns and promotion of illegal immigration, Newsom is seriously unpopular now, with everybody.
People forget, CA has had Republican governors in the recent past, too. Now, if I can just find someone who isn't a complete idiot to vote for.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:If you are a registered Democrat, you are the biggest faker in California. There is nothing about the way you think that is anything like a Democrat. Why not do the honest thing and register as what you are? But if the truth would be known, a lot of people, including about every black I know, are better suited emotionally for the GOP. If the white racists every leave the GOP and form a third party, blacks will switch back to Lincoln's party. Switching won't make any sense, but it will feel right. Since when have Americans ever done the sensible thing rather than be ruled by their fears of Communism, terrorists, crime, vaccines, or whatever the latest thing they have found to be fearful of and confused about? For example: Killing Japanese women and children with nukes was not a sensible response, but a majority of Americans approved. It Americans can get that wrong, there is nothing they can't get wrong. And Americans proved they can stay wrong by approving of the building of a super stockpile of nukes. What planet did they think those nukes would fall on? Mars?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polls say that Newsom looks to be recalled, and the Dem Party is losing its collective shit. I know bc I'm a registered Dem, and the # of spam phone calls on the topic has become intolerable. We get more than eight a day.
When I engage with any of these callers - which is seldom - I get the same canned spam that SECONRATE posted, along with the added feature
Republicans from out of state are funding the recall effort!! You don't want those [uout of state Republicans to determine our governor, do you???
Yeah, like Dems in California never funded a Dem in Minnesota? Seriously? Between the endless lockdowns and promotion of illegal immigration, Newsom is seriously unpopular now, with everybody.
People forget, CA has had Republican governors in the recent past, too. Now, if I can just find someone who isn't a complete idiot to vote for.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polls say that Newsom looks to be recalled, and the Dem Party is losing its collective shit. I know bc I'm a registered Dem, and the # of spam phone calls on the topic has become intolerable. We get more than eight a day.
When I engage with any of these callers - which is seldom - I get the same canned spam that SECONRATE posted, along with the added feature
Republicans from out of state are funding the recall effort!! You don't want those [uout of state Republicans to determine our governor, do you???
Yeah, like Dems in California never funded a Dem in Minnesota? Seriously? Between the endless lockdowns and promotion of illegal immigration, Newsom is seriously unpopular now, with everybody.
People forget, CA has had Republican governors in the recent past, too. Now, if I can just find someone who isn't a complete idiot to vote for.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
AOC's receipts for donations from the state of California between 2019 and 2020.
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/?data_type=processed&committee_i
d=C00639591&two_year_transaction_period=2020&contributor_state=CA
There are 22,859 of them.
Her total receipts during that period were 172,447, meaning that almost 15% of the contributions came from the state of California (not in terms of dollar amount, but of the number of them).
If anybody would like to throw the entire thing into a spreadsheet I'd love to know how much of the 21.25 million she got came from California.
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How Redistribution Makes America Richer
There’s been a lot of important work on the social and political effects of inequality — separate (though tightly related) issues. But unlike the steady stream of “incentive” theory from Right economists over decades, Left and heterodox economists have largely failed to ask or answer a rather basic theoretical (and empirical) question: what are the purely economic effects of highly-concentrated wealth, held by fewer people, families, and dynasties, in larger and larger fortunes?
A new paper and model published in Real-World Economics Review tackles that question. The model takes advantage of national accountants’ wealth measures that have only been available since 2006 or 2012 (with coverage back to 1960), and measures of wealth distribution that were only published in 2019. Combined with thirty+ years of consistent survey data on consumer spending at different income levels, the paper derives a novel economic measure: velocity of wealth.
The bottom 80% group turns over its wealth in annual spending three or four times as fast as the top 20%. The arithmetic takeaway: at a given level of wealth, more broadly distributed wealth means more spending: the very stuff of economic activity, which is itself the ultimate source of wealth accumulation.
The details of the model are somewhat more complex, but it only employs five easy to understand formulas — all basically just arithmetic, and all expressed without resort to abstruse symbols; they use plain language.
How good are the model’s predictions? It starts with just two numbers in 1989 — the wealth of the top 20% and the bottom 80% — and extrapolates forward using those few formulas to predict levels of wealth, spending, and shares of wealth and spending, thirty years later.
Compare the model’s predictions for 2019 to actual results; in each case, they’re almost identical.
It’s easy to add counterfactuals to this model: what would have happened if some percentage of top-20% wealth was transferred, redistributed, to the bottom 80% every year over those three decades. The results are pretty eye-popping. Downward redistribution appears to make everyone quite a lot wealthier, faster – especially (no surprise) the bottom 80%: 
More at https://angrybearblog.com/2021/08/how-redistribution-makes-america-ric
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If you are a registered Democrat, you are the biggest faker in California. There is nothing about the way you think that is anything like a Democrat. Why not do the honest thing and register as what you are? But if the truth would be known, a lot of people, including about every black I know, are better suited emotionally for the GOP. If the white racists every leave the GOP and form a third party, blacks will switch back to Lincoln's party. Switching won't make any sense, but it will feel right. Since when have Americans ever done the sensible thing rather than be ruled by their fears of Communism, terrorists, crime, vaccines, or whatever the latest thing they have found to be fearful of and confused about? For example: Killing Japanese women and children with nukes was not a sensible response, but a majority of Americans approved. It Americans can get that wrong, there is nothing they can't get wrong. And Americans proved they can stay wrong by approving of the building of a super stockpile of nukes. What planet did they think those nukes would fall on? Mars?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polls say that Newsom looks to be recalled, and the Dem Party is losing its collective shit. I know bc I'm a registered Dem, and the # of spam phone calls on the topic has become intolerable. We get more than eight a day.
When I engage with any of these callers - which is seldom - I get the same canned spam that SECONRATE posted, along with the added feature
Republicans from out of state are funding the recall effort!! You don't want those [uout of state Republicans to determine our governor, do you???
Yeah, like Dems in California never funded a Dem in Minnesota? Seriously? Between the endless lockdowns and promotion of illegal immigration, Newsom is seriously unpopular now, with everybody.
People forget, CA has had Republican governors in the recent past, too. Now, if I can just find someone who isn't a complete idiot to vote for.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
In other words, unless you worship at the Altar of Maddow, you shouldn't be a Democrat.
You're an idiot.
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Quote:What did you think about the $10 trillion America spent on nukes and the delivery system for nukes, the planes, missiles, submarines?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In other words, unless you worship at the Altar of Maddow, you shouldn't be a Democrat.
You're an idiot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_of_the_United_States
What do you think of the radioactive fallout responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973?
https://qz.com/1163140/us-nuclear-tests-killed-american-civilians-on-a
-scale-comparable-to-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:What did you think about the $10 trillion America spent on nukes and the delivery system for nukes, the planes, missiles, submarines?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In other words, unless you worship at the Altar of Maddow, you shouldn't be a Democrat.
You're an idiot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_of_the_United_States
What do you think of the radioactive fallout responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973?
https://qz.com/1163140/us-nuclear-tests-killed-american-civilians-on-a
-scale-comparable-to-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/
Let's just say they're on my always growing list of reasons that I don't intend to ever make enough money in a year to pay any Federal Income Tax again in my life and leave it at that.
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Quote:You didn't answer the question about hypothetically destroying the world. And you didn't answer about killing Americans with fallout. How about another two questions?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let's just say they're on my always growing list of reasons that I don't intend to ever make enough money in a year to pay any Federal Income Tax again in my life and leave it at that.
Should America do something about climate change before it kills millions of Americans? Or, in order to lower taxes, should America wait and see how many die, first? For reference: "These skeptics believe in climate change. Why is it so hard to convince them catastrophe is coming?"
https://web.archive.org/web/20210827190516/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/business/energy/article/climate-change-global-warming-skepticism-houston-16410884.php
The Houston Chronicle doesn't say it, but the unconvinced are all Republicans who don't want to spend tax money on climate change until after the catastrophe is killing people.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You didn't answer the question about hypothetically destroying the world. And you didn't answer about killing Americans with fallout. How about another two questions?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let's just say they're on my always growing list of reasons that I don't intend to ever make enough money in a year to pay any Federal Income Tax again in my life and leave it at that.
Should America do something about climate change before it kills millions of Americans? Or, in order to lower taxes, should America wait and see how many die, first? For reference: "These skeptics believe in climate change. Why is it so hard to convince them catastrophe is coming?"
https://web.archive.org/web/20210827190516/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/business/energy/article/climate-change-global-warming-skepticism-houston-16410884.php
The Houston Chronicle doesn't say it, but the unconvinced are all Republicans who don't want to spend tax money on climate change until after the catastrophe is killing people.
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I won't be paying for any of it.
Meanwhile, half of the taxes line the pockets of the politicians, the lobbyists and the contractors that are in bed for them who get quadruple the going rate to get the job done and hire their union contractors to carry out the work.
Being a taxpayer yourself though, you have a much more vested interest into where the money is going. I can understand that.
Me? I don't care.
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Quote:You didn't answer questions about climate change, either, but here are more questions:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I won't be paying for any of it.
Meanwhile, half of the taxes line the pockets of the politicians, the lobbyists and the contractors that are in bed for them who get quadruple the going rate to get the job done and hire their union contractors to carry out the work.
Being a taxpayer yourself though, you have a much more vested interest into where the money is going. I can understand that.
Me? I don't care.
What will you do when the Federal government shuts down the interstate pipelines for natural gas, petroleum, and gasoline to reduce carbon dioxide emissions? Will you switch to all electricity? Or will you show your independence and only ride a bicycle to the grocery store and only take freezing cold showers at home because there is no such thing as climate change and you refuse to go all electric because you have Constitutional rights as an American citizen to not do what you don't wanna do?
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You didn't answer questions about climate change, either, but here are more questions:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I won't be paying for any of it.
Meanwhile, half of the taxes line the pockets of the politicians, the lobbyists and the contractors that are in bed for them who get quadruple the going rate to get the job done and hire their union contractors to carry out the work.
Being a taxpayer yourself though, you have a much more vested interest into where the money is going. I can understand that.
Me? I don't care.
What will you do when the Federal government shuts down the interstate pipelines for natural gas, petroleum, and gasoline to reduce carbon dioxide emissions? Will you switch to all electricity? Or will you show your independence and only ride a bicycle to the grocery store and only take freezing cold showers at home because there is no such thing as climate change and you refuse to go all electric because you have Constitutional rights as an American citizen to not do what you don't wanna do?
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I'm not paying for any of it.
It will never happen in our lifetime, but if we ever do shut down natural gas and petrol you're going to have a lot more to worry about than taking cold showers. We'll put a pin in that one until it happens.
Meanwhile, start building that moat for your ivory tower, "rich guy".
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Quote:This is your fantasy that I am weak, frightened and stupid while you are strong, brave and intelligent, but your fantasy is backwards. I'm sure from looking at Texas Trump voters' lives that they aren't competent and they can't understand why life is hard for them when the Trump haters lives are easy.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile, start building that moat for your ivory tower, "rich guy".
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Second, allow me
6isStringJack,
NFW are you a democrat. Didn't you read the sign? Now GTFO this thread.
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Yup. He's the most static and 1 dimensional character that ever trolled the RWED.
Tragic.
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The Great American Science Heist
After malaria and yellow fever killed more of their soldiers than bullets in the Spanish-American War, the U.S. Army and Navy spearheaded the government’s entry into infectious disease research. It has since expanded its medical purview to other maladies affecting its ranks, from PTSD to cancer. Since 1997, the Defense Department’s Prostate Cancer Research Program and the National Institutes of Health have spent tens of millions of dollars supporting research at UCLA. An early trial funded by the Pentagon showed that one of the candidate drugs to emerge, enzalutamide, showed promise in extending the life of late-stage prostate cancer patients.
The “reasonableness” of that drug’s monopoly price in the U.S. market is at the center of a march-in petition currently awaiting judgement before the Department of Defense and the NIH.
In 2005, the University of California, the enzalutamide patent holder, cut an exclusive-rights deal with a Bay Area biotech firm called Medivation. To finish trials and bring the drug to market, Medivation partnered with a Japanese firm, Astellas Pharma. In 2012, the Food and Drug Administration approved it for sale under the brand name Xtandi. Four years later, Xtandi was making Medivation-Astellas more than $2 billion a year globally. Most of these profits were generated in the U.S., where a yearlong course was priced at $130,000 — several times higher than in any other member-country of the G-7, where governments negotiate drug prices. Medicare Part D spending for Xtandi topped $900 million annually.
These numbers drew the salivating attention of the biggest multinational drug companies, but there was a problem. The U.S. government was named alongside UCLA researchers on three of the drug’s key patents, leaving the drug vulnerable to a march-in petition. Sure enough, in 2016, two medicines-access groups filed a petition with the Department of Defense and the NIH to pull Bayh-Dole’s march-in trigger and license generic competition. All of the pieces were in place: a formal petition, a clear government stake in the rights, and a flamboyant violation of “reasonable terms” that placed a huge and unnecessary cost burden on Veterans Affairs hospitals and Medicare.
“You would think the military has a strong interest in not paying more than $100,000 for a drug it paid to develop and has manufacturing costs in single digits,” says Robert Sachs, a retired lawyer and prostate cancer patient who joined the Xtandi march-in petition in 2018. “Nobody is trying to micromanage prices. Just compare the U.S. price to other developed economies, and if it’s unreasonably higher, authorize competition.”
The missing ingredient was a self-respecting government. HHS was quiet on the petition. Inside the Pentagon, no Adm. Rickover came forward to take up the cause. Only after the Army, White House, and NIH all quietly declined to back the petition did the drug majors feel secure enough to descend with buyout offers. A bidding war ended with Pfizer acquiring Medivation and the Xtandi monopoly for $14 billion.
The pricing scandal continued to simmer during the Trump administration. In July 2017, the Senate Armed Services Committee added to the National Defense Authorization Act a new standard for determining the “reasonableness” of prices on drugs emerging from military grants. That standard — the median price of the drug in the G-7 countries — was never applied.
“The July executive order forces the government to finally make a decision on Xtandi,” said James Love, director of Knowledge Ecology International, one of the groups that filed the 2016 march-in petition. “It should be a slam dunk. Biden did the right thing in stopping the NIST proposals. The question is, does he have the guts to take next step?”
The answer will open a window not only into the administration’s viscera, but also the balance of forces between a number of senior officials with ties to the pharmaceutical industry and the “antitrust dream team” of Jonathan Kanter in the Justice Dep
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