Some Covid-19 thoughts
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I was talking to the widow of an un-vaccinated Trumptard.
This is fanfic
In order for that story to be true, the following unlikely things would have to happen
1) Second would have to know a republican
2) A "trumptard"
3) a widow was celebrating her husband's death. The only logical reason would be "she killed him" and if she did, she'd be more discreet about it, or if she did, and weren't, she'd have been caught already, and wouldn't be talking to Second unless they're both in prison.
4) an unvaccinated person got the covid, can happen, like me, but rare
5) and died of it, also unlikely
6) and then someone's life is better after a death because of life insurance money. I remember life insurance paying a lot of money, but medical bills, still higher
7) An insurance company paid out for a policy on an unvaccinated anti-vaxer who had covid <-- the actually most unbelievable part of the story
So yeah, it was a fanfic
sorry, seriously, never heard anyone say "i'm glad someone very close to me is dead because $$MoNeY$$ ! Maybe I don't know people like that, only Second knows people like that
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Quote:Dreamtrove, do you ever re-read what you have previously written? Here is a good post:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Bizarre Lazar @BizarreLazar tweeted:
Tiktok just banned the milk crate challenge because people were getting seriously injured. They however will still allow you to spew Covid denial and antivaxxer propaganda because that only kills people.
6:34 PM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/BizarreLazar/status/1431399736213311492
TikTok bans 'milk crate challenge' from its app, citing concerns over dangerous acts
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/08/27/tiktok-bans-milk-crate-
challenge/5618315001/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Second,
I only tell you this because I really care.
Seek help
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It occurs to me that the FDA has taken the nuclear option here by approving the Pfizer vaccination faster than it has ever approved any vaccination in it's history.
If this goes south now, they've just destroyed their reputation for at least a generation or two and nobody will ever believe anything they say.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
It will definitely head south and the FDA has just destroyed itself. Which is a shame, because the whole planet depended on it. Most countries don't have something like that. And the useful function they did serve was the food part.
America is completely fucked. The USA govt that is.
meanwhile, I had this thought. Everything about this virus seems designed to cause maximum immune response, from the get go. Nothing evolves that way.
I think it's also not airborne. It doesn't behave at all like an airborne disease. It behaves like a blood based infectious disease. I think it spreads from the vaccinated, and they shed it, and they infect others by preparing food.
This is probably why all the restaurants stayed open. Of course, there have always been vaccinated, as we now know the vax predates the release of the pathogen itself.
So this is how Bill and Ted and Tony spread their plague. They inject people with a "vaccine" that they've patented as a bioweapon and brand named "Vaccine™" and then those people become carriers. Some of those peopel work in places where they can spread it to others.
I've given up on my initial transmission theory. I think we all got it from a bakery whose food we ate, and where the people are vaccinated. I know "in theory" the vaccines are contagious, but the pattern is clear. 100% of them seem to get the covid within days of being vaccinated, and people who have no contact with the vaccinated at all don't get it.
If it were as the media says, then outbreaks would start among the unvaccinated and spread to the unvaccinated and not to the vaccinated. Instead it clearly starts each time with the vaccinated and affects all the vaccinated first.
One of my employees is degenerating. It's a month in and he says he can't eat.I'm pretty sure most of the damage from this thing is the autoimmune problems it creates.
JSF if you're there, have you considered that Fauci may have taken Montagnier's HIV into a lab and modified it to create the effects that he wanted?
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I was talking to the widow of an un-vaccinated Trumptard.
This is fanfic
In order for that story to be true, the following unlikely things would have to happen
1) Second would have to know a republican
2) A "trumptard"
3) a widow was celebrating her husband's death. The only logical reason would be "she killed him" and if she did, she'd be more discreet about it, or if she did, and weren't, she'd have been caught already, and wouldn't be talking to Second unless they're both in prison.
4) an unvaccinated person got the covid, can happen, like me, but rare
5) and died of it, also unlikely
6) and then someone's life is better after a death because of life insurance money. I remember life insurance paying a lot of money, but medical bills, still higher
7) An insurance company paid out for a policy on an unvaccinated anti-vaxer who had covid <-- the actually most unbelievable part of the story
So yeah, it was a fanfic
sorry, seriously, never heard anyone say "i'm glad someone very close to me is dead because $$MoNeY$$ ! Maybe I don't know people like that, only Second knows people like that
Not to be too picky, but for point 6: the medical debts do NOT transfer over to the common-law wife at death, especially if that common-law status has never been formalized. And you don't have to be married to the deceased to get the payout for insurance.
And for point 7: There are no life insurance policies that don't payout if the deceased has not yet been vaccinated.
Dreamtrove, you definitely are the Stephen King Award winner for fantasy/horror writing. You just make up such entertaining stories with no basis in fact.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Well if the story is true, I feel sorry for the deceased, hereto affectionately known as the trumptard, the merry widow must really be enjoying the free cash, but this story is too convenient in adding all the incredibly unlikely details to support Second's case that the vaccinated should die of covid, but details of the story are too unlikely, and some of them have been facricated, or unstated detils that don't support the story's narrative, Like the wife was also unvaccinated and the husband died from being hit by a truck
your money argument fails btw. the assassin(she's partying on free money rejoicing in death) probably doesn't have assets, she is using the husbands, which get depleted by the medical executioners to fail to treat his covid, and then they make more money by intubating him and killing him, 54k bonus, and then insurance company makes unlikely error and pays her, but she's still down because of his medical expenses, but at least he's gone now and she can party
nothing about this story passes the sniff test, including the unlikely covid saving the day, though admittedly it is a politically selective virus
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In the US's previous peak back in late January, there were about 77 new cases per day per 100,000, and one new death (77:1) .
With this current (delta) peak, there are about 48 new cases per per day per 100,000, and approximately 0.4 deaths. (120:1)
So despite the fact that these are supposedly younger, more resistant people getting seriously ill, there seems to be not much "youth benefit", as KIKI previously posted. Since obesity is a major risk factor, and many under-50 are obese, that could explain why there are so many deaths per infection.
What is keeping the figures from being worse, on an absolute scale, is that the #of infections seems to be topping out, since the curve is beginning to heel over. The #of deaths however has not yet reached its inflection point, since it lags by two weeks or so.
https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/
Currently, by infection rate, the top ten places are
FL/ MS are tied for first place (altho MS was a lot higher just a week ago)
TN
KY/ LA are tied for third (altho LA also was a lot higher)
SC
GA
AL
AK
AR
WV
WY
Top ten death rates
MS
LA
FL
AR
WY
NV
WY/AL
SC
MS
GA
If you're young -and fit - do us old (or fat) farts a favor:
PLEASE go mingle!
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I was talking to the widow of an un-vaccinated Trumptard.
This is fanfic
In order for that story to be true, the following unlikely things would have to happen
1) Second would have to know a republican
2) A "trumptard"
3) a widow was celebrating her husband's death. The only logical reason would be "she killed him" and if she did, she'd be more discreet about it, or if she did, and weren't, she'd have been caught already, and wouldn't be talking to Second unless they're both in prison.
4) an unvaccinated person got the covid, can happen, like me, but rare
5) and died of it, also unlikely
6) and then someone's life is better after a death because of life insurance money. I remember life insurance paying a lot of money, but medical bills, still higher
7) An insurance company paid out for a policy on an unvaccinated anti-vaxer who had covid <-- the actually most unbelievable part of the story
So yeah, it was a fanfic
sorry, seriously, never heard anyone say "i'm glad someone very close to me is dead because $$MoNeY$$ ! Maybe I don't know people like that, only Second knows people like that
Second is that person. It stands to reason that he surrounds himself with people like himself.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:Dreamtrove, you are still not finished spinning stories, are you? You definitely deserve the Stephen King Award for fantasy/horror. King is the fastest, most productive writer I know -- TV shows, movies, books, King does it all and he does it fast. King's latest is Lisey's Story. At the bottom of the review is a list of other projects, reboots, sequels, King has completed: https://www.moriareviews.com/fantasy/liseys-story-2021.htm
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Well if the story is true, I feel sorry for the deceased, hereto affectionately known as the trumptard, the merry widow must really be enjoying the free cash, but this story is too convenient in adding all the incredibly unlikely details to support Second's case that the vaccinated should die of covid, but details of the story are too unlikely, and some of them have been facricated, or unstated detils that don't support the story's narrative, Like the wife was also unvaccinated and the husband died from being hit by a truck
your money argument fails btw. the assassin(she's partying on free money rejoicing in death) probably doesn't have assets, she is using the husbands, which get depleted by the medical executioners to fail to treat his covid, and then they make more money by intubating him and killing him, 54k bonus, and then insurance company makes unlikely error and pays her, but she's still down because of his medical expenses, but at least he's gone now and she can party
nothing about this story passes the sniff test, including the unlikely covid saving the day, though admittedly it is a politically selective virus
Here is some dreamtrove writing on Afghanistan. It is every bit as horrifying as DT on Covid-19:
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:WHEN WOMEN HAVE A CHOICE, they often choose to not have children, or if they have them, to only have a few, and to make others take care of them, even from birth - for example 'wet nurses' as surrogate nursing mothers. That's been going on since at least the time of an upper class of women who had their own substantial wealth and power. See "Mother Love" for an exhaustive documentation of numbers in France through the Medieval Ages on forward.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Feminazi narrative was always fake. It's part of the genocide. To convince women that not having children is THE FREEDOM!
lol
you think that was a choice ?
a satanic cult made that choice for her. It's actually Hitler's gambit, because racial supremacy, and now the sabbateans use it to breed blacks to be their slaves. Of course it won't work, black people are a lot smarter than they think, but they're not thinking, they're using scripture.
Anyway, evolutionary logic dictates that you're wrong, a fact you'll have to deal with at some point. It's logic, so it needs no sources, just studying the statement itself will lead you to my conclusion, and if you haven't arrived there, as you haven't, you just haven't thought about it.
the women who are inclined to not have children or to have fewer children died out in the natural selection of the gene pool through the not having of any kids. As a result, their impact on the genetic lineage of humanity is zero
Sorry, but thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64532&mid=11401
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Caleb Wallace, Anti-Mask 'Freedom Rally' Organizer, Dies at 30 With COVID
Caleb Wallace, a Texas man who helped organize the "Freedom Rally" and other prominent protests against pandemic restrictions, has died from COVID-19. He was 30.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/caleb-wallace-anti-mask-freedom-rall
y-organizer-dies-at-30-with-covid/ar-AANQY7H?ocid=msedgntp
Deaths
646,258
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A Florida woman who was hospitalized with COVID-19 returned home to find her husband dead of the disease
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-florida-woman-who-was-hospi
talized-with-covid-19-returned-home-to-find-her-husband-dead-of-the-disease/ar-AANQj54?ocid=msedgntp
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Unvaccinated, unmasked teacher spreads Covid-19 to half of her class, CDC reports
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/unvaccinated-unmasked-teacher-spread
s-covid-19-to-half-of-her-class-cdc-reports/ar-AANQCKh?ocid=msedgntp
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Florida ICU Director 'Tired of Seeing People Die' Without Getting Vaccine
A Florida ICU Medical Director broke down in tears when he described the harrowing situation in the state as unvaccinated people flood hospitals in need of urgent care.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/florida-icu-director-tired-of
-seeing-people-die-without-getting-vaccine/ar-AANRWm9?ocid=msedgntp
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With more than 150,000 Americans contracting COVID-19 per day, the price for going unvaccinated is growing
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/with-more-than-150-000-ameri
cans-contracting-covid-19-per-day-the-price-for-going-unvaccinated-is-growing/ar-AANKS6g?ocid=msedgntp
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Florida hospitals order mobile morgues to deal with COVID-19 death overflow, report says
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/florida-hospitals-order-mobile-mo
rgues-to-deal-with-covid-19-death-overflow-report-says/ar-AANQgy1?ocid=msedgntp
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A Kansas man died waiting for an ICU bed while hospitals were filled to capacity with COVID-19 patients
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-kansas-man-died-waiting-for
-an-icu-bed-while-hospitals-were-filled-to-capacity-with-covid-19-patients/ar-AANR7kC?ocid=msedgntp
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Focus people...
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CDC @CDCgov tweeted:
As of August 26, 203 million people in the U.S. have received at least one dose of a #COVID19 vaccine and 172 million, or about 52%, are fully vaccinated. The COVID-19 vaccines authorized or approved in the U.S. are safe & effective.
Learn more:
http://bit.ly/CDTweeklyreview
4:00 PM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1431360903690215427
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If they're effective, than stop worrying.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:The problem is that the people who catch Covid-19 will cost everybody now and in the future:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they're effective, than stop worrying.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
Largest Study of Lingering COVID-19 Effects Suggests a Looming Problem
https://time.com/6093164/long-covid-19-largest-study/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210828173911/https://time.com/6093164/lo
ng-covid-19-largest-study/
Among those hospitalized for COVID-19, 68% reported at least one continued, COVID-19-related symptom six months after their first symptoms appeared. While this percentage decreased by the 12-month mark, it remained relatively high, at 49%. And overall, patients who had been hospitalized for COVID-19 self-reported being in poorer health and having lower quality of life — including mobility issues — compared to controls.
The most common symptom patients reported 12 months later was fatigue or muscle weakness; other issues included sleep disturbances, changes in taste and smell, dizziness, headache and shortness of breath. Certain symptoms were actually worse at the 12-month mark than they were earlier on in the study: the proportion of patients reporting breathing problems increased slightly, from 26% to 30%, from six months to a year following their first symptoms. The patients also filled out questionnaires about their mental health, and while 23% reported feeling anxious or depressed six months after their first symptoms appeared, 30% did so at a year.
The increase in the proportion of patients experiencing anxiety or depression is especially “worrying,” say the authors, and they speculate that in addition to the isolation, unemployment, and loss of physical health that could be fueling these conditions, the virus itself may be driving abnormal immune responses that could affect the delicate work of brain chemicals contributing to people’s mental states.
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Originally posted by second:
CDC @CDCgov tweeted:
As of August 26, 203 million people in the U.S. have received at least one dose of a #COVID19 vaccine and 172 million, or about 52%, are fully vaccinated. The COVID-19 vaccines authorized or approved in the U.S. are safe & effective.
Learn more:
http://bit.ly/CDTweeklyreview
4:00 PM · Aug 27, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1431360903690215427
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Says the CDC, a private corporation that hold the patent on the vaccine
Completely airtight logic there, Second.
Wait, don't they also hold the patent on the test and also on the virus itself?
And why do they hold a patent on the virus?
Oh yes, because they genetically engineered the virus.
There is actually no other way.
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Don't bother trying logic with Second.
He's allergic.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The problem is that the people who catch Covid-19 will cost everybody now and in the future:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they're effective, than stop worrying.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
Largest Study of Lingering COVID-19 Effects Suggests a Looming Problem
https://time.com/6093164/long-covid-19-largest-study/
https://web.archive.org/web/20210828173911/https://time.com/6093164/lo
ng-covid-19-largest-study/
Among those hospitalized for COVID-19, 68% reported at least one continued, COVID-19-related symptom six months after their first symptoms appeared. While this percentage decreased by the 12-month mark, it remained relatively high, at 49%. And overall, patients who had been hospitalized for COVID-19 self-reported being in poorer health and having lower quality of life — including mobility issues — compared to controls.
The most common symptom patients reported 12 months later was fatigue or muscle weakness; other issues included sleep disturbances, changes in taste and smell, dizziness, headache and shortness of breath. Certain symptoms were actually worse at the 12-month mark than they were earlier on in the study: the proportion of patients reporting breathing problems increased slightly, from 26% to 30%, from six months to a year following their first symptoms. The patients also filled out questionnaires about their mental health, and while 23% reported feeling anxious or depressed six months after their first symptoms appeared, 30% did so at a year.
The increase in the proportion of patients experiencing anxiety or depression is especially “worrying,” say the authors, and they speculate that in addition to the isolation, unemployment, and loss of physical health that could be fueling these conditions, the virus itself may be driving abnormal immune responses that could affect the delicate work of brain chemicals contributing to people’s mental states.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
If they're effective, then stop worrying.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:Are you sure that the CDC is a private corporation? Because it is NOT a corporation, and it can NOT make a profit. And, dreamtrove, even Stephen King would not change those hard facts to fit a fantasy/horror story-line because denial of hard facts ruins a story.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Says the CDC, a private corporation that hold the patent on the vaccine
Completely airtight logic there, Second.
Wait, don't they also hold the patent on the test and also on the virus itself?
And why do they hold a patent on the virus?
Oh yes, because they genetically engineered the virus.
There is actually no other way.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Preventi
on
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"says wikipedia"
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Everyody knows the CDC is a government agency, SIX.
Even you.
There is a CDC FOUNDATION which is NOT the CDC, that is a nonprofit. The names are very similar. That's why people get confused.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you sure that the CDC is a private corporation? Because it is NOT a corporation, and it can NOT make a profit. And, dreamtrove, even Stephen King would not change those hard facts to fit a fantasy/horror story-line because denial of hard facts ruins a story.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Says the CDC, a private corporation that hold the patent on the vaccine
Completely airtight logic there, Second.
Wait, don't they also hold the patent on the test and also on the virus itself?
And why do they hold a patent on the virus?
Oh yes, because they genetically engineered the virus.
There is actually no other way.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Preventi
on
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
The CDC was chartered as a Private Nonprofit Corporation.
here's why that matters. When the CDC was developing bioweapons with Chapel Hill, they filed to keep all of the information private, which they couldn't have done if they'd actually been chartered as a public trust.
It's not about money, it's about secrecy, even from its own government.
As an agency, the CDC definitely also classifies as a "captured agency" which is when a govt agency's board is staffed exclusively or by majority by members of the boards of companies or organizations in the industry it's designed to regulate. If you move from a board meeting at Moderna, a fake company, or Pfizer, to a board meeting at the NIAID or CDC you don't experience a change in the people you're talking to, only the room in which those same people will meet. Excuse me, the zoom.
Is Second a male or a female? there seems to be some confusion on this point.
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SECOND: Are you sure that the CDC is a private corporation? Because it is NOT a corporation, and it can NOT make a profit. And, dreamtrove, even Stephen King would not change those hard facts to fit a fantasy/horror story-line because denial of hard facts ruins a story.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Preventi
on
DREAMTROVE:
The CDC was chartered as a Private Nonprofit Corporation.
here's why that matters. When the CDC was developing bioweapons with Chapel Hill, they filed to keep all of the information private, which they couldn't have done if they'd actually been chartered as a public trust.
It's not about money, it's about secrecy, even from its own government.
As an agency, the CDC definitely also classifies as a "captured agency" which is when a govt agency's board is staffed exclusively or by majority by members of the boards of companies or organizations in the industry it's designed to regulate. If you move from a board meeting at Moderna, a fake company, or Pfizer, to a board meeting at the NIAID or CDC you don't experience a change in the people you're talking to, only the room in which those same people will meet. Excuse me, the zoom.
Is Second a male or a female? there seems to be some confusion on this point.
DREAMTROVE
Quote:
Although the CDC Foundation was chartered by Congress, it is not a government agency nor is it a division of CDC. It is a private, nonprofit organization classified as a 501(c)(3) public charity.
https://www.cdc.gov/partners/partnering.html
The CDC FOUNDATION can accept gifts and partner with private entities (including other foundations). The CDC itself cannot.
You have an active imagination, DT.
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Quote:Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The CDC was chartered as a Private Nonprofit Corporation.
here's why that matters. When the CDC was developing bioweapons with Chapel Hill, they filed to keep all of the information private, which they couldn't have done if they'd actually been chartered as a public trust.
It's not about money, it's about secrecy, even from its own government.
As an agency, the CDC definitely also classifies as a "captured agency" which is when a govt agency's board is staffed exclusively or by majority by members of the boards of companies or organizations in the industry it's designed to regulate. If you move from a board meeting at Moderna, a fake company, or Pfizer, to a board meeting at the NIAID or CDC you don't experience a change in the people you're talking to, only the room in which those same people will meet. Excuse me, the zoom.
Is Second a male or a female? there seems to be some confusion on this point.
From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/?page=1
MCWA stands for Malaria Control in War Areas, just so you know, dreamtrove.
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SECOND:
Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?
From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/
Says the guy who continually posts lies and defamation!
DT never had any credibility bc his imagination takes over his thinking. YOU ruined your credibility by constantly posting lies. Of the two, I would rather read DT than you. At least DT is sincere and opens up the possibility of new avenues of thought ... yanno, like PN. You, otoh, want to direct people into a hate-filled channel of lies.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Everyody knows the CDC is a government agency, SIX.
Even you.
There is a CDC FOUNDATION which is NOT the CDC, that is a nonprofit. The names are very similar. That's why people get confused.
They're all whatever they fuck TPTB want them to be.
None of them are to be trusted.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:You had many opportunities over the years to prove you are not a Russian troll, or not a run-of-the-mill crank/nutjob, but you never went forward with your threats to sue me for defaming you. I suspect that is because you can't file the case from Russia in an American court without having to give a real identity beyond "SignyM".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SECOND:
Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?
From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/
Says the guy who continually posts lies and defamation!
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Kiki's the one always threatening lawsuits.
I assume she's never gone through with it because everyone here is using a fake name and you can't defame somebody who doesn't have a link to their actual person and/or business.
You, on the other hand, are full of shit and it's in plain sight every time you make a post about anything.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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SECOND:
Dreamtrove, you write fast, but because you write fantasy/horror stories, there is no need to check facts, is there?
From MCWA to CDC — Origins of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1381908/
SIGNY: Says the guy who continually posts lies and defamation!
SECONDRATE: You had many opportunities over the years to prove you are not a Russian troll, or not a run-of-the-mill crank/nutjob, but you never went forward with your threats to sue me for defaming you. I suspect that is because you can't file the case from Russia in an American court without having to give a real identity beyond "SignyM".
If YOU don't know whether or not I'm a Russian troll, then your constantly calling me one is defamation. I shouldn't have to "prove" anything bc you decide to maliciously attack me. OTOH your PI wasn't as careful as you might like about not leaving evidence behind.
I'm not suing bc I have better things to do with my time and money. First of all, in my last court case as plaintiff, it was made very clear to me that lawsuits are limited by "no harm, no foul". One must assess damages, in monetary terms, in order to get a judgement.
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Quote:What is in plain sight is that I posted Firefly #31 and #32 in the last two days: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=20&tid=62603&mid=11402
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You, on the other hand, are full of shit and it's in plain sight every time you make a post about anything.
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Are you too superior to read Firefly?
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what is this, a contest to see who has the shortest friends list?
still haven't cleared up whether is actually a female and whether 1kiki is signy's daughter or her mr. hyde side.
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Quote:Remember this quote?
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
what is this, a contest to see who has the shortest friends list?
still haven't cleared up whether is actually a female and whether 1kiki is signy's daughter or her mr. hyde side.
Quote:http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64434&mid=11402
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I'm afraid if I'm impeaching Joe Biden it's over genociding the human race
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The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?
First coronavirus vaccine shots given outside trials in U.S. -- December 14, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/14/first-covid-vaccines-
new-york/
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One by one all of SLOPPY'S Russian Troll™ slinging surrogates have bailed or been banned from the board, leaving SLOPPY to do the dirty work itself. I guess SLOPPY's surrogates didn't really trust it when it came to promises of lawyers. Leaving SLOPPY all by its lonesome, dangling in the breeze. So, when it comes to being defamed, I guess my lawsuit threats worked! I mean, look at the results. 
And now SLOPPY has to carefully meter out those statements, trying to not build up too heavy of a history that might be called a pattern. Poor thing.
Anyway, I too have far better things to do with my time at the moment.
FWIW, If I were to interpret SLOPPY's current behavior, I'd say it was that of a sociopath who's lost the people he was previously manipulating, unable to run the situation like before because no one cares, and desperately trolling just to get some kind of response.
Tho I do see him probing DT looking for weaknesses - handles - that he can use.
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Originally posted by second:
The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?
They weren't, but that's okay. Anyway, only if he mandates it. Otherwise it's Tony Fauci's fault, like most things
Edit: I see you posted some test run, but that's not a mandate
You can't try the president for something some citizen does, even if it's andrew cuomo
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
One by one all of SLOPPY'S Russian Troll™
How do you get SLOPPY from SECOND?
Seems a little sloppy if you forgive me saying so
Or is this an oblique reference to some sockpuppet between TWO and SECOND that I missed? I remember SECOND so I must have encountered it in 2017. it's all a blurQuote:
Leaving SLOPPY all by its lonesome, dangling in the breeze.
That would imply dude. just doesn't seem to have enough angry and ego for a dude. Maybe a eunuch. But probably a chickQuote:
No, that would be what you would be up to. Second is way too dumb for this kind of manipulation, and not the Sun Tzu Art of War kind of dumb, the eats rocks kind of dumb.
Tho I do see him probing DT looking for weaknesses - handles - that he can use.
Now I will admit that she posts some nice artwork and comics, and if she had any part of creating it i'd have to reconsider the "eats rocks" part of the equation, but literally she argues for her own death. that's not a step above literally eating rocks.
And collecting dumb things Dreamtrove said is not ammunition. you're sitting in the minefield of dumb things Dreamtrove said, but any time you repost it, it'll be surrounded by dumb things Second said that you'll have to live with.
Instead of just continuing to assume I'm wrong, just listed to what I'm saying. This is the difference between a moron and a genius. Not specifically listening to me, but listening to other people.
I'm not a genius, but. I try to not be a moron, so I went through all of Sigkiki's takedowns of my bioweapon theory, and it's just kind of blaming the cake for the icings and not taking any serious potshots at the cake.
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Quote:Are the Covid-19 vaccines the same as genocide of humanity? Genocide is what you have been selling. I want to know if you really believe what you are writing? Or will you admit you are writing Stephen King inspired fantasy/horror fiction?
Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?
They weren't, but that's okay. Anyway, only if he mandates it. Otherwise it's Tony Fauci's fault, like most things
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Quote:I created this banner, for one of 50 examples:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
No, that would be what you would be up to. Second is way too dumb for this kind of manipulation, and not the Sun Tzu Art of War kind of dumb, the eats rocks kind of dumb.
Now I will admit that she posts some nice artwork and comics, and if she had any part of creating it i'd have to reconsider the "eats rocks" part of the equation, but literally she argues for her own death. that's not a step above literally eating rocks.
It is called "Imagine Your Face Here". Leaving the faces without details makes it easy for me to imagine myself as one of them. Or maybe it horrifies you. By the way: In my dreams, I'm closest to Jayne, but in the real world I'm closest to Badger, except about one foot taller and with no bowler hat.
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Originally posted by second:
The three kinds of vaccines were being injected before Joe Biden was President. So now the vaccines are his fault?
They weren't, but that's okay. Anyway, only if he mandates it. Otherwise it's Tony Fauci's fault, like most things
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Are the Covid-19 vaccines the same as genocide of humanity? Genocide is what you have been selling. I want to know if you really believe what you are writing? Or will you admit you are writing Stephen King inspired fantasy/horror fiction?
Well in Secondland people who don't get the vaccine are murderers. I think you just said that yesterday. So there has to be a theory there, which goes like this: the unvaccinated will all get the covid and spread it to the vaccinated because the vaccine doesn't work, or the vaccinated will have the covid that they injected themselves with and the unvaccinated will die because the vaccine doesn't work.
I don't actually sell genocide, I'm not a genocide merchant. Stephen King is a decent writer when he's not trying to write horror. He's pretty good actually. I genuinely enjoyed Shawshank Redemption. The problem with his horror is it's always a literal physical Satan which I find is the least scare concept of all. The Stand was awesome until it turned into Satan. I mean Spike. I mean Satan. It's always Satan.
What I believe is not important, Second, it's that I know stuff you don't, and I've been trying to tell you, but you endanger yourself by insisting on not listening.
There is no vaccine. There's a patented bioweapon that's been rebranded Vaccine™ :tm: The structure of this is to try to trick your body into producing a maximum number of covid spike proteins and then launch maximum attack against it.
The spike protein is a tiny alien with pieces of human glued to the outside, and every time the immune system attacks the alien, there's a chance it will learn to attack the human bits and make you less human and more rot zombie.
Every time you take a vaccine booster, you're increasing the chances of this.
It works this way because Fauci and company designed it this way because and Gates and company paid them to because they want to depopulate the planet.
They've been at this for 20 years. It's as I said, as the videos said, a matter of public record. It's not conspiracy theory. It's truth, the opposite of fact check.
BTW, I see what you did there. You took my comment that your covid fanfiction was fanfiction and you did the Hillary Clinton. "Anything someone says about you, you can say about them." doesn't really work that way
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Originally posted by second:
yeah that one creeps me out. but it's a step above eating rocks, I'll grant
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Not trying to manipulate, DT, just trying to be helpful to your health situation, and posting the facts as I know them, like you are. Whether people agree with me or not, I'll keep calling things exactly like I see them, the same way you do. We may disagree, but we call it like we see it. I appreciate you being upfront, the way Signy is upfront, the way Brenda is upfront. So I hope you can come to a non-paranoid place where you can appreciate people being upfront with you as well.
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Quote:Thanks for the clarification. I will patiently wait for your predicted "rot zombie" apocalypse as proof you are correct about the Covid-19 vaccines.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The spike protein is a tiny alien with pieces of human glued to the outside, and every time the immune system attacks the alien, there's a chance it will learn to attack the human bits and make you less human and more rot zombie.
Every time you take a vaccine booster, you're increasing the chances of this.
It works this way because Fauci and company designed it this way because and Gates and company paid them to because they want to depopulate the planet.
They've been at this for 20 years. It's as I said, as the videos said, a matter of public record. It's not conspiracy theory. It's truth, the opposite of fact check.
BTW, I see what you did there. You took my comment that your covid fanfiction was fanfiction and you did the Hillary Clinton. "Anything someone says about you, you can say about them." doesn't really work that way
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Not trying to manipulate, DT, just trying to be helpful to your health situation, and posting the facts as I know them, like you are. Whether people agree with me or not, I'll keep calling things exactly like I see them, the same way you do. We may disagree, but we call it like we see it. I appreciate you being upfront, the way Signy is upfront, the way Brenda is upfront. So I hope you can come to a non-paranoid place where you can appreciate people being upfront with you as well.
Thing is, I'm not paranoid at all. If I were paranoid, I wouldn't be in this mess. I'd be hiding from the carriers, be they the vaccinated or the unvaccinated depending on your evidence. I don't say beliefs, because I don't think there's a place for belief here. One person can be a good christian, another a good muslim, and they can both be completely sincere without either being wrong, and when the wiccan tells them they're wrong, she's also sincere and not wrong. But when it comes to covid carriers, one side is wrong, and all of us have to accept that it might be our own.
The evidence I've seen fits incredibly strongly with the scam bioweapon model, and the media behavior is exactly like the media behavior pushing every no more babies agenda for 50 years. it's abortion, feminism, gay pride, transgender, sex laws, IUDs, sterilizing psychopharmacology for kids, and now mandated injections of sterilizing bioweapon. that pattern fits everything I already know, and the media behavior is identical for all of these. spout the same extremely thin surface B^||$#!+ and then denounce everyone who sees through the lies as "conspiracy theorists" and then strawman those opponents by adding their own crazy people to them to add more B^||$#!+ to the truth to make it sound retarded. That's just a model they, the fifth international fascist corporate commies use. Globalists. It's what they do.
Globalism is just the imperialism of our generation. It's a world takeover plan like every other that came before it. Kill everyone, take their land. There's no "overpopulation problem" or people concerned about overpopulation running this, it's all a scam, kill everyone, take their land. Just like the indians, and slavery, and the crusades and colonialism. Just like Napoleon and WWI+II. It's all the same elite money controllers killing the peasants, taking their land. That's what's happening here.
If it weren't so, the media would be more skeptical. When there have been actual health problems in the world, the media does not jump up and say "we have to fix this?" they say "here's a controversy to debate and get viewers" and then we can have "here's a scam charity that can get all your sympathy dollars and never fix the problem"
The media just isn't a "here's a world problem let's fix it" sort of institution.
And the players are way too familiar. Seriously? Tony Fauci? He's been a fraud all my life, he's now a triple fraud. AIDS, the flu shot, and now this. And Bill Gates? He has a tech empire based on no actual code written by him, it's all stolen, or bought, and he's been flagged as a genocidal loon for decades because of his comments on his own work in africa being based on population control, and all the data backing up that that's the effect of him being there.
And the WHO has been a scam since its inception. It's another nazi inherited organization run by the rockefellers, and they're all scams.
And the WEF. You will own nothing and be happy? remember that one? WEF is just the scammier replacement for the IMF.
So this is a cast of characters I already trust less than Hitler <-- oh yes, I mean this, as a child of a holocaust survivor. I'm aware Hitler lied his ass off. but these guys have him beat on the lies/truth ratio.
Where does this take me? Look at all
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Originally posted by second:
Thanks for the clarification. I will patiently wait for your predicted "rot zombie" apocalypse as proof you are correct about the Covid-19 vaccines.
This particular one is my favorite. Also yours? or if not, who did this one?
As far as verifying the rot zombie apocalypse, since I have the virus I have a vested interest in that not happening, but if it does, how will we know? The rot zombies will already be medical cucks, since they injected themselves, so they'll go to the hospital and oopsie
I suppose some kind of controlled experiment can be done, probably wouldn't even have to set it up, someone already has an unintentional one somewhere in the world
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Marc Bernier Becomes Third Anti-Vax Radio Host to Die of COVID-19
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/marc-bernier-third-anti-va
x-radio-host-die-covid.html
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Originally posted by second:
Marc Bernier Becomes Third Anti-Vax Radio Host to Die of COVID-19
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/marc-bernier-third-anti-va
x-radio-host-die-covid.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
I see. Pro-vax side is killing their political opponents now
Edit: and then using their deaths to push their pro-death agenda
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Quote:I am so happy that you are kidding. You are being funnier than any Monty Python skit.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Marc Bernier Becomes Third Anti-Vax Radio Host to Die of COVID-19
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/marc-bernier-third-anti-va
x-radio-host-die-covid.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
I see. Pro-vax side is killing their political opponents now
Edit: and then using their deaths to push their pro-death agenda
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Originally posted by second:
[Something intended to be demeaning]
When I'm wrong, I will shrug and say, I guess it was just a vaccine, but vaccines are pretty risky, and this one was untested, it was irresponsible to mandate it before safety testing could be done, it's a shame 6000 people died from it. (official number right now) and no more than that, because all my conspiracy theories about this one were wrong.
When you're wrong, WTF will you do? Say "hey, i'm sorry I was a nazi collaborator to 1000 holocausts, but you know, stupid happens" ?
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Second doesn't even know why he's fighting so vehemently for other people to get vaccinated against their will.
He just does whatever his Legacy Media Masters tell him to do.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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STATUS UPDATE:
Still not vaccinated. Still never going to be vaccinated.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Republicans treated Covid like a bioweapon. Then it turned against them
Trump’s team reportedly believed that coronavirus would hurt Democratic states – and Democratic governors – worse. But the virus does not discriminate
Some of the most powerful conservatives in the United States have, since the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, chosen to sow disinformation along with mockery and distrust of proven methods of combating the disease, from masks to vaccines to social distancing. Their actions have afflicted the nation as a whole with more disease and death and economic crisis than good leadership aligned with science might have, and, in spite of hundreds of thousands of well-documented deaths and a new surge, they continue. Their malice has become so normal that its real nature is rarely addressed. Call it biological warfare by propaganda.
Call Jared Kushner the spiritual heir of the army besieging the city of Caffa on the Black Sea in 1346, which, according to a contemporaneous account, catapulted plague-infected corpses over the city walls. This is sometimes said to be how the Black Death came to Europe, where it would kill tens of millions of people – a third of the European population – over the next 15 years. A Business Insider article from a year ago noted: “Kushner’s coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors.” An administration more committed to saving lives than scoring points could have contained the pandemic rather than made the US the worst-hit nation in the world. Illnesses and casualties could have been far lower, and we could have been better protected against the Delta variant.
More at https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/07/republicans-trea
ted-covid-like-bioweapon-turned-against-them
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lol
Delusional.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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Quote:Members of Jared Kushner's coronavirus task force considered a national-scale testing plan early in the US's coronavirus outbreak. The plan never came to be, partly because the task force thought it would be better politically to hold off. The logic, a source told Vanity Fair, was that the virus would hit Democratic-voting areas hardest and that the damage could be blamed on governors instead.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Delusional.
"vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-p
olitical-reasons-report-2020-7
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lol
Delusional.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
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MARCH 9TH, 2021:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I wonder when they're going to start bandying around the term "Bio-Terrorist" when referring to people who won't get vaccinated.
AUGUST 30TH, 2021: The Daily Beast
We're almost there...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/dont-negotiate-with-trumps-dise
ase-spreading-zombie-army/ar-AANTaIv
"Don't Negotiate with Trump's Disease Spreading Zombie Army"
They usually say "Don't Negotiate with Terrorists", don't they?
OLD:
NBCNEWS, AUGUST 15TH, 2011: A new terror alert has been issued by homeland security (National Terrorism Alert Ahead of 9/11 20TH Anniversary)
We're getting REALLY close to that prediction coming true, huh?
MIAMI HEARALD, AUGUST 2ND, 2021:
https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr
/article253116738.html
"Menace to Society", huh?
Not quite Bio-Terrorists yet, but we're getting close, aren't we?
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You do not endanger the lives of the many to humor the misconceptions of the few. They can’t or won’t change their minds. It’s time to recognize that.
And do it for them.
You worry about you dude.
In the meantime, I double dare you to be the one who "does it for me".
That ain't going to end up any other way than with you crying on the floor with a couple of black eyes and your yellow, soy-filled shit leaking out your drawers.
ALSO:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This was from a post I made on March 10th, but it was a summation of things I'd been saying way back in 2020.Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What she told her husband is what the media is suggesting that EVERYONE who is getting vaccinated do to anybody who isn't getting vaccinated. And also doing to them what she did to him.
Guilt them.
Guilting him to guilt them.
Here's the steps, if you missed me talk about them before.
STEP 1: Give the vaccine to the 50 to 60% of people who are terrified of the virus and would do anything to get it.
STEP 2: Give the vaccine to the 15 to 20% of people who are just so f-ing tired of how we've been forced to live the last year that they just want it to go away and will get vaccinated so they can get back to their old lives.
(Steps one and two will have quite a bit of overlap, both in the timeframe and/or like-mindedness.)
STEP 3: Guilt the shit of the remaining people. Not all of them will be guilted into it. But some of them will.
STEP 4: Ruin the lives of people who still refuse. This can be done, and will be done, in a variety of ways. (This can only begin once there is a legitimate surplus of vaccinations without any remaining demand for them).
One of the biggest will be by allowing corporations to force vaccinations otherwise face termination from your job (the article from South Carolina I posted earlier today is actually about a bill being considered in the state to PROHIBIT companies in the state from doing this).
But then there's just the general guilting that will never end until the media stops talking about it. If you haven't been paying attention to the way these things work online the last few years, that guilting will quickly turn to HATE. This is going to make for a very hostile work environment for many people at this point. Imagine the RWED, but in a live office setting... in every workplace around the country. (and with weak-minded, terrified people truly believing that somebody like me is threatening their life by my mere presence in front of them without having had the shots).
If they really want to make the issue bad, they'll start instituting an ID card... maybe even provide you with a handy little lanyard to wear it like a dog collar whenever you leave your home.
Worst case is that when enough people have already gotten it and the rest refNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Originally posted by second:
Republicans treated Covid like a bioweapon. Then it turned against them
It is an actual literal bioweapon patented as a bioweapon. It's not conspiracy theory. It's not even conspiracy theory that it's Fauci and company's bioweapon. They all put their names to it in some form. Sorry, this isn't something you can presently debate without first proving the facts to be a scam.
Jared Kushner is now Toghon Temur?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toghon_Temur
So it's not Jared Kushner's name on the bioweapon patent. It's not Jared Kushner going around injecting people with the bioweapon. Jared Kushner is just the jew adjacent to the process that you decided to randomly attack because he was the only jew in the room.
There is no vaccine. The vaccine was rejected on the ground of not being a vaccine, so it's also a patented bioweapon, that is a bioweapon called a bioweapon that the media and pharma and biden is referring to as a vaccine, but has no protective capability, because it's just a bioweapon. It's the plague carcass.
There's no wild type Delta Variant, the Delta Variant is the vaccine.
Also, it's not an airborne respiratory disease, it's a infectious blood virus. And how you get those is someone injected you or you ate them, or in other ways got infected in the blood. So masks and social distancing are utterly pointless.
But that's besides the point. Your copy and pasting idiocy because you can't be bothered to make up your own idiocy?
At some point you have to accept that your chosen political party is the nazis, and that you might have chosen wrong. If you can't accept that, then you now know how nazism actually works. Laziness.
Just wake the fuck up already
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Quote:Welcome to the Upside Down. Democracy might not survive, but the ratings will be great as the GOP base has become so unhinged and radicalized on a feed bag of disinformation to the point that Crenshaw, a slavish MAGA man, got heckled for refusing to say the election was stolen. Even Trump, their god-king, was booed by his adoring cult at a recent rally in Alabama. Did he praise Muslims? Hug an undocumented immigrant? Compliment Obama? Nope. He simply gently recommended that they take a life-saving vaccine, like he did, that will protect them from suffering a tragic, unnecessary death.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
At some point you have to accept that your chosen political party is the nazis, and that you might have chosen wrong. If you can't accept that, then you now know how nazism actually works. Laziness.
Just wake the fuck up already
More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/dont-negotiate-with-trumps-disease-sprea
ding-zombie-army
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I already posted that propaganda piece from the DailyBeast, idiot.
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Welcome to the Upside Down.
Good Movie
vaxinazis bought trump? he was always for sale
ratings will not exist. no one watches the idiot box anymore
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Quote:It’s too late to convince people determined to believe otherwise that the pandemic is real, deadly, and requires them to wear masks and take vaccines. It’s been nearly two years. We could have reopened safely by now, saved thousands of lives, and protected our front-line workers if we simply followed social distancing and masking. Instead, a radicalized minority enabled by demagogic governors continues to choose death, which Republicans are trying, insanely, to rebrand as “freedom.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I already posted that propaganda piece from the DailyBeast, idiot.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
It’s too late to convince people determined to believe otherwise that the pandemic is real, deadly, and requires them to wear masks and take vaccines.
Or otherwise, apparently. I believe this disease is real. I have it. It's also definitely not airborne, so fuck the masks. That was a wasted effort. I mean, good thought by people who thought it was airborne, but they were wrong
The vaccine is just the same as getting the disease, so there's no point in trying to prevent the spread of the disease if you're going to inject yourself with it. I mean, if you think this isn't true, you know fuckall about biochem. The virus itself is not the threat, it's the immune response in this case which is the threat. The vaccine will do that in spades.
There is a real pandemic of morons going around and injecting people with a bioweapon, that is literally how it is spreading. I know people who have been actively trying to get corona and failing, who carry no immunity. It's just not possible to catch unless you're exposed to someone who is newly vaccinated, or are yourself newly vaccinated.
I'm still collecting data on this very annoying disease which I have, but this is definitely where it falls right now. I'm still a registered democrat, but I'm at "never listen to a democrat again" and that means don't listen to me. Do your own research.
But don't suck on satan's cock either. Do actual research
Sorry for butting in
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It’s too late to convince people determined to believe otherwise that the pandemic is real, deadly, and requires them to wear masks and take vaccines. It’s been nearly two years. We could have reopened safely by now, saved thousands of lives, and protected our front-line workers if we simply followed social distancing and masking. Instead, a radicalized minority enabled by demagogic governors continues to choose death, which Republicans are trying, insanely, to rebrand as “freedom.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I already posted that propaganda piece from the DailyBeast, idiot.
Nah.
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The doctor Siggie quoted at the beginning of this thread that said the shutdown was too harsh was forced into retirement for saying so and therefore being a crazy conspiracy theorist, and is now in german politics
the videos six posted are gone
we're in full nazi censorship here. if you criticize the holocaust you're in trouble. sorry, "final solution" as bill gates called it> "The Final Solution ... is the vaccine"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
There are only four types of people in the world. The Nazis promoting this thing, the Not Sees who are basically holocaust deniers, the resistance fighters and the lazy bums doing nothing
fight smart, don't fight in a way that allows them to decrease our numbers.
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The doctor Siggie quoted at the beginning of this thread that said the shutdown was too harsh was forced into retirement for saying so and therefore being a crazy conspiracy theorist, and is now in german politics
the videos six posted are gone
we're in full nazi censorship here. if you criticize the holocaust you're in trouble. sorry, "final solution" as bill gates called it> "The Final Solution ... is the vaccine"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
There are only four types of people in the world. The Nazis promoting this thing, the Not Sees who are basically holocaust deniers, the resistance fighters and the lazy bums doing nothing
fight smart, don't fight in a way that allows them to decrease our numbers.
Which videos that I posted are gone? I'll repost them.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The doctor Siggie quoted at the beginning of this thread that said the shutdown was too harsh was forced into retirement for saying so and therefore being a crazy conspiracy theorist, and is now in german politics
the videos six posted are gone
we're in full nazi censorship here. if you criticize the holocaust you're in trouble. sorry, "final solution" as bill gates called it> "The Final Solution ... is the vaccine"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
There are only four types of people in the world. The Nazis promoting this thing, the Not Sees who are basically holocaust deniers, the resistance fighters and the lazy bums doing nothing
fight smart, don't fight in a way that allows them to decrease our numbers.
Which videos that I posted are gone? I'll repost them.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
whatever you posted on page 1
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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said researchers won't study the toxic livestock-deworming drug ivermectin as a potential COVID treatment because of their dislike for former President Donald Trump. "The hatred for Trump deranged these people so much that they're unwilling to objectively study it," Paul said.
In the US, the National Institutes of Health is conducting a large, late-stage trial to see whether ivermectin can help people with mild or moderate COVID-19 cases feel better more quickly. The University of Oxford's PRINCIPLE trial is also studying ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment. Senator Rand Paul is full of shit.
https://news.yahoo.com/rand-paul-claims-scientists-wont-045732346.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
the videos six posted are gone
Which videos that I posted are gone? I'll repost them.
whatever you posted on page 1
Missing videos from page 1...
1st video: "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines"
Alternate:
2nd video: "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines"
Alternate:
I've updated the OP with the new videos that haven't been taking down.
Good lookin' out.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson @neiltyson tweeted:
In case anyone is curious...
Right now in the USA, every ten days, more than 8,000 (unvaccinated) Republican voters are dying of COVID-19. That’s 5X the rate for Democrats.
5:54 AM · Aug 31, 2021·TweetDeck
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1432657940071297026
Neil deGrasse Tyson @neiltyson tweeted a Reply to @Chuck_Huber
Thanks for asking. Twitter, of course, does not lend itself to full citations.
I derived the number from published COVID-19 death rates of unvaccinated people (about 1,000 per day). And from the polls that show 25% of Republican voters are unvaccinated, versus 5% of Democrats.
6:11 AM · Aug 31, 2021·TweetDeck
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1432662324855377920
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Second,
Here's the mistake you're making
the fact that the vaccine is actually a bioweapon being used as a weapon and is not a vaccine is not a conspiracy theory, or even a theory or a speculation. it's a known fact that exists in objective reality. Anything else is pure fantasy.
the only thing you achieve with this fantasy, is your own mutilation by bioweapon.
So there are many more unvaccinated republicans than democrats. if he means more republicans are dying overall, is someone killing them? is it because they're white, and gates and co are trying to kill white people?
no possible conclusion you can actually draw from the data will overturn objective reality which is already known, so instead either it has an explanation like this, or it is otherwise fiction.
done debating this. A father of a friend of mine died from the vax this morning, I'm sick of this sh*t
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Neil deGrasse Tyson is a cunt that can't go two seconds without blowing himself.
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Quote:Show me the list of people who have attached their real names to "the vaccine is actually a bioweapon". There must be a list, or petition, or a manifesto, somewhere. I would also expect people who would sign the petition, but have not yet because they need to remain covert, would have already blown up at least one vaccine factory.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Second,
the fact that the vaccine is actually a bioweapon being used as a weapon . . .
done debating this. A father of a friend of mine died from the vax this morning, I'm sick of this sh*t
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As long as you're not sneezing or coughing on me, you're welcome here if you're vaccinated.
We're not kissing or fucking though, and don't drink out of my cup.
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Been thinking about the ONE valid criticism about big pharma and the vaccination campaign, and that is:
Why haven't they invested as much money into looking at non-vaccine prevention and treatment as they have into vaccines?
You can tell how much this means to vested interests because of the number of demonstrated and alleged scientific fraud around the issue of HCQ and ivermectin.
There was a HUGE study, published in the Lancet IIRC that supposedly gathered data on tens (hundreds?) of thousands of patients from medical centers around the world showing that HCQ was ineffective at best and detrimental at worst. But the fraud should have been apparent to any medical researcher: too mcuh data collected and processed in too short a time by too few people, calculated by a company that only existed for 6 months. Just the sheer mechanics of getting data released from so many nations wth so many privacy laws would have precluded that timeline.
Data collected from an impossible number of advanced cardiac care centers in Africa. Data from medical centers in Australia which said they never were contacted by the authors. The fraud was (apparently) so blatant that the publication had to be withdrawn.
And then, there was an Egyptian study involving 10,000 patients and ivermectin which showed astonishingly positive results, and similar charges of scientific fraud. I am not familiar with the details, but I have to say that these incidences ... and charge... of fraud certainly have mudied the water! It's hard to "follow the science" when scientists have become so malleable!
There seems to be multiple campaigns against AND for off-label Rx of cheap medications that it's impossible to find reliable data anywhere.
Is it any wonder that the one approved treatment - monoclonal antibodies - is expen$ive?
Which leads me to think about why Big Pharma is doing what it's doing, and that's MONEY. It all boils down to revenue $tream.
And government is doing what IT'S doing (lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine campaigns) for a different reason: AUTHORITARIANISM/FASCISM. Make people depend on government handouts and regulations.
And BigTech/deep state is doing what it's doing for its own purposes: POWER. Control of all modes of communication.
And the globalists are doing what they're doing for their own purposes: DESTROY NATIONS by pitting people against each other for what is hyped as existential reasons.
It's like the Iraq invasion: there were a lot of people in power who were for it, but a lot of factions had different reasons for the same goal:
Some wanted to support the petrodollar.
Some wanted Iraq's oil.
Some wanted to surround Russia.
Some wanted to protect Israel.
Some wanted Armageddon.
Some thought Saddam was involved in 9-11.
Some thought that Saddam had WMD.
Some may have even thought they were deposing a tyrant, or spreading democracy.
Everyone wanted the same action, but each faction had a different reason.
I feel that we're looking at the same thing now. There ARE conspiracies, but it's not one world-straddling conspiracy but a lot of big ones, simply because there are so many powerful factions that want to make use of this event for their own purposes.
They don't all have the same reasons, but they're all hopping onboard the train.
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Republican trust in media keeps sinking to new lows, opening door to overlapping misinformation
Every week we read a new story about a conservative media figure who downplayed Covid-19 or mocked the vaccines and wound up hospitalized or dead. Almost as often, we see sad new examples of overlapping misinformation.
Here's what I mean by "overlapping misinformation:" An attorney representing many high-profile suspects from the January 6 riot -- a riot of lies -- has apparently been hospitalized due to Covid. The California-based attorney, John Pierce, has not been showing up for hearings "after reportedly becoming ill with Covid-19," CNN's Katelyn Polantz reported, citing DOJ filings.
Prosecutors said they believe he "may be in the hospital and that his absence has effectively brought several cases to a standstill."
"Prior to his reported health issues," ABC's team reported, "Pierce pushed conspiracy theories surrounding the insurrection on his Twitter account, where he also espoused anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists." See? Overlapping misinformation.
Another example was in the news last week: Arizona's sham election "audit" report was delayed after the Cyber Ninjas CEO and others tested positive for Covid-19. CNN's team noted that the "Ninjas" were often seen without masks, and it was "not clear whether those who tested positive had been vaccinated."
Disbelief in election results and distrust of the vaccines are connected. One of the connections is an utter lack of confidence in institutional sources of information. One of the consequences is a pandemic that could have been brought under control by now. Which leads me to this new poll...
Losing trust
The Pew Research Center released a discouraging data set this week. "In just five years, the percentage of Republicans with at least some trust in national news organizations has been cut in half -- dropping from 70% in 2016 to 35% this year," Jeffrey Gottfried and Jacob Liedke wrote. "This decline is fueling the continued widening of the partisan gap in trust of the media."
Overall, Pew found, 58% of US adults say they have at least some trust in the information from national news outlets. "This is the smallest share over the past five years this question was asked," Pew said.
Of course, this reflects the views of everyone from MAGA diehards who believe Donald Trump's "enemy of the people" smears all the way to leftists who believe the press went way too easy on Trump's undemocratic conduct. Plus, each person's definition of "national news organizations" is different. But the GOP's collapse in trust is colossal. (And this isn't the only poll to say so. Gallup showed a similarly bleak divide late last year.)
Whether you feel these numbers make "the media" look bad or make Republicans look bad, they're absolutely worthy of analysis, because they telegraph what's happening to the country writ large. As Sara Fischer wrote for Axios, "the polarization of trust in the media presents one of the most clear and troubling signs for American democracy."
The United States is one country with two almost completely separate media ecosystems. These ecosystems have different values; prioritize different subjects; and reach different populations. It's getting almost impossible to appeal to both...
Democrats believe; Republicans disbelieve
More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/media/republicans-losing-trust-media-re
liable-sources/index.html
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Been thinking about the ONE valid criticism about big pharma and the vaccination campaign, and that is:
Why haven't they invested as much money into looking at non-vaccine prevention and treatment as they have into vaccines?
Because the people doing this are scams. Scamming scammers scams.
Part of what colored my whole opinion on this entire issue was who was talking
Trump is and has always been a scammer, but not a killer. But a wheeler dealer
Biden was my neighbor, and my mom was Jill Bidens office mate for years. We always liked the Bidens fine, good honest hardworking people
So the political aspect never entered into it for me.
It's this
Fauci is a known major scam artist. He's the sleaziest person in probably the entire medical field.
Bill Gates, a man I met once, I think he believes in what he's doing, he's very socially awkward, but he is also a scam. His entire empire is and has been a litigious scam. Bill also steals other people's work and passes it off as his own. He's had weird nazi depopulation ideas that have come up in interviews, for years.
judy markowitz and luc montagnier have always struck me as honest people
Pfizer I have mixed feelings about, Moderna I didn't know well before this, but I kind of had Janssen down in my book as one of the IG Farbens of our time
The newly merged mainstream media I had begged as a giant ignorant lying machine, and the fact checkers as deliberately malicious
The health regulators were at best useless, and at worst corrupt
The WHO I had down as nazis from the get go. It seems for 50 years almost every intervention they do is related to population control, rather than helping populations
The WEF I had down as a total fucking scam
The various skeptical libertarian voices that spoke up against the vax were people i've trusted for years.
That said, when it hit, I didn't form a judgment, I looked a the science, and long before I read anyone else saying it, I thought "whoa, obvious fucking bioweapon"
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You can tell how much this means to vested interests because of the number of demonstrated and alleged scientific fraud around the issue of HCQ and ivermectin.
huh? I mean, I don't see the conflict of interest with using HCQ or ivermectin. I mean, I obviously have my own personal doubts as to whether they're the right tools for the job. I have both in my medicine cabinet and I also have coronavirus and I've used neither one myself. But they're both cost based production essential medicines on the otherwise scammy WHO's essential medicines list, so there's no serious profit in either for anyone, it's probably why people were pumping them as possibilities
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There was a HUGE study, published in the Lancet IIRC that supposedly gathered data on tens (hundreds?) of thousands of patients from medical centers around the world showing that HCQ was ineffective at best and detrimental at worst. But the fraud should have been apparent to any medical researcher: too mcuh data collected and processed in too short a time by too few people, calculated by a company that only existed for 6 months. Just the sheer mechanics of getting data released from so many nations wth so many privacy laws would have precluded that timeline.
I mean, I agree, but link? :) seriously though, I agree its probably a bad idea, but good to have just in case as a last resort. Both of them would be detrimental to your health.
But you know, they weren't made as suggestions for good medical reasons, they were made because the capacity to make large amounts at low cost for the world was available, and they had some effectiveness against the virus. I seriously doubt there was a profit motive there. If someone wanted to make money off this, they would have recommended a premium patented antiviral that their company owned. The fact that Pfizer didn't do this makes me think the whole thing
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Quote:You keep saying that but have never explained it in a way that made sense to me.
SIGNYM:
Been thinking about the ONE valid criticism about big pharma and the vaccination campaign, and that is:
Why haven't they invested as much money into looking at non-vaccine prevention and treatment as they have into vaccines?
DT:
Because the people doing this are scams. Scamming scammers scams.
Part of what colored my whole opinion on this entire issue was who was talking
Trump is and has always been a scammer, but not a killer. But a wheeler dealer
Biden was my neighbor, and my mom was Jill Bidens office mate for years. We always liked the Bidens fine, good honest hardworking people
So the political aspect never entered into it for me.
It's this
Fauci is a known major scam artist. He's the sleaziest person in probably the entire medical field.
Bill Gates, a man I met once, I think he believes in what he's doing, he's very socially awkward, but he is also a scam. His entire empire is and has been a litigious scam. Bill also steals other people's work and passes it off as his own. He's had weird nazi depopulation ideas that have come up in interviews, for years.
judy markowitz and luc montagnier have always struck me as honest people
Pfizer I have mixed feelings about, Moderna I didn't know well before this, but I kind of had Janssen down in my book as one of the IG Farbens of our time
The newly merged mainstream media I had begged as a giant ignorant lying machine, and the fact checkers as deliberately malicious
The health regulators were at best useless, and at worst corrupt
The WHO I had down as nazis from the get go. It seems for 50 years almost every intervention they do is related to population control, rather than helping populations
The WEF I had down as a total fucking scam
The various skeptical libertarian voices that spoke up against the vax were people i've trusted for years.
That said, when it hit, I didn't form a judgment, I looked a the science, and long before I read anyone else saying it, I thought "whoa, obvious fucking bioweapon"
Quote:What I mean was, Big Pharma would have no interest in studying, promoting, or making a drug that was basically a cheap commodity drug. Where's the money in that? So they would have an interest in casting doubt on any study that showed they were beneficial.
SIGNY: You can tell how much this means to vested interests because of the number of demonstrated and alleged scientific fraud around the issue of HCQ and ivermectin.
DT: huh? I mean, I don't see the conflict of interest with using HCQ or ivermectin. I mean, I obviously have my own personal doubts as to whether they're the right tools for the job. I have both in my medicine cabinet and I also have coronavirus and I've used neither one myself. But they're both cost based production essential medicines on the otherwise scammy WHO's essential medicines list, so there's no serious profit in either for anyone, it's probably why people were pumping them as possibilities
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SIGNY: There was a HUGE study, published in the Lancet IIRC that supposedly gathered data on tens (hundreds?) of thousands of patients from medical centers around the world showing that HCQ was ineffective at best and detrimental at worst. But the fraud should have been apparent to any medical researcher: too mcuh data collected and processed in too short a time by too few people, calculated by a company that only existed for 6 months. Just the sheer mechanics of getting data released from so many nations wth so many privacy laws would have precluded that timeline.
DT: I mean, I agree, but link? :) seriously though, I agree its probably a bad idea, but good to have just in case as a last resort. Both of them would be detrimental to your health.
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You keep saying that but have never explained it in a way that made sense to me.
What that it's an obvious bioweapon?
Old bioweapon tactic. Soviets used to use it. For a while in the 90s I worked for a company that dealt with plastics and contracted with our dept of chemical and biological weapons, because containment was an issue, and we working on similar things. Here's a recent piece on this I ran into a few days ago
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/no_author/mrna-vaccines-the-silent
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but this is an obvious tactic. Most pathogens are just not universally destructive enough to ensure that they would adversely affect soldiers on the field that would make bioweapons militarily useful. Sure, they could be used for depopulation, but if it doesn't slow the invading enemy down before he shoots you, it's no use. Forcing an overactive immune response is much more effective at stopping someone in the short time. Making Phil's dad's lungs explode in 3 days is combat useful. Killing him in 8 months from a chronic lung eating viral infection is not.
The covid vaccines contain a maximum amount of impact to create the maximum immune response possible, as does the engineer pathogen, which creates its own cytokine storm. Add to that, there are possible overlaps between the genes in the virus and ones in essential human enzymes, and the obvious autoimmune responses already reported
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/upl
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Maximum immmune response way passed anything that's been done in the past to a protein that contains essential human genes classifies as obvious bioweapon to meQuote:
What I mean was, Big Pharma would have no interest in studying, promoting, or making a drug that was basically a cheap commodity drug. Where's the money in that? So they would have an interest in casting doubt on any study that showed they were beneficial.
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This may not be the best article but it was the first one that popped up. I first heard about this on Chris Martenson's video
The Lancet Retracts Hydroxychloroquine Study
une 4, 2020 - The online medical journal The Lancet has apologized to readers after retracting a study that said the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine did not help to curb COVID-19 and might cause death in patients.
The study was withdrawn because the company that provided data would not provide full access to the information for a third-party peer review, saying to do so would violate client agreements and confidentiality requirements, The Lancet said in a statement.
So fake news. They posted a study saying it didn't help, from a non-credible source that wouldn't allow itself to be revealed and then retracted said study. Well it worked. I read a lot of skepticism on it and didn't end up taking the HCQ. Someone else who did the same may have died, who knows
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Well, the one thing that Chris Martenson was insistent on was that, if HCQ was an antiviral, you would have to take it EARLY in the course of the illness, either as a pre-exposure prophylatic or a post-exposure prophylactic. Very early in the course of the disease. Because once the virus had replicated everywhere in your body, it was kinda late to stop it.
Just a little context on that. He looked at a lot of studies where doctors were administering high doses to people who were already on ventilators. By then it was far past the point of having any benefit and patients could only experience the long QT side effect that went with the doses that were 2000X (IIRC) the standard anti-malarial dose.
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FROM your Lew Rockwell link:
Quote:DNA manipulation using CRISPER technology is illegal, not bc of a bioweapons treaty but bc scientists have agreed that it is immoral. (However, a Chinese scientist DID perform genetic manipulation on two fetuses, leading to healthy births. Long story that nobody has followed up with.)
This is why it is important to understand that under this treaty gene-splicing and DNA manipulation used in the recent CRISPR technology and Covid-19 mRNA vaccines is illegal.
HOWEVER, I don't know that mRNA manipulation is "illegal". I tried searching on "mRNA contravene bioweapons treaty" and except for a lot of woo-woo consipracy theories, I couldn't find any reference to any treaty, law, or regulation concerning mRNA-work.
I suppose it COULD be used to prompt the ribosomes to make problematic proteins, but since the virus (and most of its variants) have been fully sequenced, and the mRNA vaccines represent only the spike portion (S)of the full viral genome, which also included the envelope (E), membrane (M), and nucleocapsid (N) proteins, the vaccine should be significantly less problematic than the full viral challenge.
BTW, without the rest of the genomic sequence, the virus can't replicate.
Anyway, I intend to read your links further.
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Well, the one thing that Chris Martenson was insistent on was that, if HCQ was an antiviral, you would have to take it EARLY in the course of the illness, either as a pre-exposure prophylatic or a post-exposure prophylactic. Very early in the course of the disease. Because once the virus had replicated everywhere in your body, it was kinda late to stop it.
Not sure that makes sense. I waited a month to take antivirals and they worked just fine. I didn't take HCQ though because of the dubiousness of studies. I took some herbals. Fucoidan was the most effective. Silymarin seemed to have some effect, and Hesperidin and Artemisinin. I also took EGCG, Boswellia and Berberine as anti-inflammatories. This overall seems to annihilate the covid19 in about a week, after getting nowhere for a month. I added a GcMAF to the mix to keep my low level immune response strong. I was specifically trying to defeat it that way to avoid the high level immune response that can lead to autoimmune disorders. I figured anything you could get from the spike in the vax you can get from the spike in the actual virus. I'm not sure it's gone yet, but I think it is, I'm going to keep taking my regimen for a while anyway just in case.Quote:
Just a little context on that. He looked at a lot of studies where doctors were administering high doses to people who were already on ventilators. By then it was far past the point of having any benefit and patients could only experience the long QT side effect that went with the doses that were 2000X (IIRC) the standard anti-malarial dose.
Yeah, I got why. I just think the length of illness isn't a factor. Respirator is the wrong response to this condition. It's endothelial inflammation, it really should be treated with anti-inflammatories first. Not only can you get more air into the lungs like this, you will also not need it. You can reduce the heart rate and increase the efficiency of the heart with a stronger pulse. There are so many variables between incoming air and distribution of blood oxygen and most of them are not even directly related to the lungs. The major inhibitory effect on o2 here is done by the silencing of vasoconstriction by the loss of ACE2 receptors.
I just think the people who came up with ventilators as a solution to covid were just, not the people who should have been on the problem. It's not that "you reach that stage" that just fails to understand how this disease progresses. 90% or more of the damage is inflammation, and 80% at least of that is cardiac and not pulmonary. All of this has the same effect of lowering o2 sat, but I think if you correct all the other factors and you still need a ventilator, with the way this virus does damage, your patient is already dead. But like Phil's dad. No way 3 days in the virus has done that might cellular damage layer by layer. It's inflammation causing that problem. What I did in my own case, I was definitely having serious trouble breathing, but I took a heart first approach, and an inflammation first approach, then once i had stabilized the o2 and HR I went researching on the antivirals.Quote:
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FROM your Lew Rockwell link:
This is why it is important to understand that under this treaty gene-splicing and DNA manipulation used in the recent CRISPR technology and Covid-19 mRNA vaccines is illegal.
DNA manipulation using CRISPER technology is illegal, not bc of a bioweapons treaty but bc scientists have agreed that it is immoral. (However, a Chinese scientist DID perform genetic manipulation on two fetuses, leading to healthy births. Long story that nobody has followed up with.)
HOWEVER, I don't know that mRNA manipulation is "illegal". I tried searching on "mRNA contravene bioweapons treaty" and except for a lot of woo-woo consipracy theories, I couldn't find any reference to any trea
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Quote:A Chinese scientist CLAIMED to have successfully used CRISPER-Cas9 to modify embryos. Other experiments have shown that modifying an embryo very early in development - that you would need to do to have the genetic changes present in all cells in the adults - result in serious unintended DNA alterations, developmental problems in the embryo, and non-viable embryos. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01906-4
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
(However, a Chinese scientist DID perform genetic manipulation on two fetuses, leading to healthy births. Long story that nobody has followed up with.)
As for the supposed letter it's so full of basic biological misstatements I don't even know where to begin to discuss it.
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Quote:I guess that explains the lack of followup, then!
SIGNYM:
(However, a Chinese scientist DID perform genetic manipulation on two fetuses, leading to healthy births. Long story that nobody has followed up with.)
KIKI: A Chinese scientist CLAIMED to have successfully used CRISPER-Cas9 to modify embryos. Other experiments have shown that modifying an embryo very early in development - that you would need to do to have the genetic changes present in all cells in the adults - result in serious unintended DNA alterations, developmental problems in the embryo, and non-viable embryos. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01906-4
All I saw was the splashy headlines in the M$M.
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SIGNYM: FROM your Lew Rockwell link:
Quote:DNA manipulation using CRISPER technology is illegal, not bc of a bioweapons treaty but bc scientists have agreed that it is immoral. (However, a Chinese scientist DID perform genetic manipulation on two fetuses, leading to healthy births. Long story that nobody has followed up with.)
This is why it is important to understand that under this treaty gene-splicing and DNA manipulation used in the recent CRISPR technology and Covid-19 mRNA vaccines is illegal.
EDITED TO ADD: KIKI has pointed out that Chinese claims of direct DNA manipulation was debunked.
HOWEVER, I don't know that mRNA manipulation is "illegal". I tried searching on "mRNA contravene bioweapons treaty" and except for a lot of woo-woo consipracy theories, I couldn't find any reference to any treaty, law, or regulation concerning mRNA-work.
I suppose it COULD be used to prompt the ribosomes to make problematic proteins, but since the virus (and most of its variants) have been fully sequenced, and the mRNA vaccines represent only the spike portion (S)of the full viral genome, which also included the envelope (E), membrane (M), and nucleocapsid (N) proteins, the vaccine should be significantly less problematic than the full viral challenge.
BTW, without the rest of the genomic sequence, the virus can't replicate.
Anyway, I intend to read your links further.
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So, continuing my careful readings of your links. RE the Lew Rockwell letter, Bioweapons Convention
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forbids States Parties from developing, producing, stockpiling, or otherwise acquiring biological agents or toxins that have no justification for peaceful or defensive purposes;
forbids States Parties from developing, producing, stockpiling, or otherwise acquiring equipment to deliver biological agents or toxins for hostile purposes;...
... protects the rights of States Parties to exchange equipment, materials, and scientific and technological information for peaceful purposes in order to avoid hampering their economic and technological development;...
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/biological-weapons-convention/
Nowhere does it prohibit gene or mRNA therapy.
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From the Lew Rockwell link
Quote:Proteins are assembled by RNA IN RIBOSOMES, NOT IN THE NUCLEUS.
In the nucleus, the proteins are made from the mRNA sequence in a process known as translation.
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The three roles of RNA
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21603/
That fundamental misunderstanding colors everything that comes after. There is a CONSTANT conflation of RNA and DNA, which is being used to drive fears of "genetic modifications".
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From the Lew Rockwell link
Quote:HOW???
They also found the way to effectively hijack the body’s natural immune processes by producing overstimulation of the immune system through the “reprogramming”
Evidence-free claim.
Quote:Antibodies are NOT cytokines. This has nothing to do with 'cytokine storm'
of the human immune system responses to those manmade-modified external pathogens. The over stimulation of the body’s immune system was purposed to cause serious immunological reactions and remove the body’s responsibility to release antibodies
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when the body decided to do so. Once the immune system was continuously in overdrive and self-exhausted (similar example of self-exhaust would be like a cancer patient whose immune system gets depleted from chemo-therapy), the body weakened and became susceptible to mild infections, like a cold, and could no longer fight off infections. For the Soviets, this breakthrough became important “silent warfare” for mass destruction.
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All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.
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All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of MISinformation about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.
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The frothing and hyperventilation about the vaccine is just like the frothing and hyperventilation about TRUMP!RUSSIA!
In fact, if you read the Lew Rockwell letter, you'll see more frothing about SOVIETS!RUSSIA! It's almost as if the author want to tag along on a previous disinformation campaign to bolster his own disinformation campaign.
I come back to what I've posted several times already: There are serious CONFLICTING national and commercial interests at play.
If J&J detected somethng hinky in the Pfizer/BNT vaccine, do you seriously think they would let it pass??? If China and Russia detected anything hinky in any western vaccine, do you seriously think they would let it pass??? (And yes, I DO read English-language versions of Russian and Chinese press.)
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Oh, BTW, SIX - AFA gene sequencing is concerned. everything I know about it comes from what I read about the human genome sequencing project, way back when, when it was occuring. (Previous knowledge, untainted by current political controversies.)
The four nucleic acids that make up DNA are, for convenience, represented by letters: A, C, G, and T
These nucleic acids are in a (mostly) linear sequence, in which the order is meaningful. Here is a random example sequence
ACTGACTGAACCTTGA
If you want to know the sequence, you break up the DNA, starting with (for example) and enzyme that breaks the TG bond, so you wind up with
ACT
GACT
GAACCTT
GA
You don't know what order these go in, so you then break up the DNA with an enzyme that breaks the AC bond
A
CTGA
CTGAA
CCTTGA
etc.
The challenge is writing software that can put all of these in order. There was a race between Craig Venter, who had formed a private company in 1998 because he wanted to patent the human genome, and a university-based effort, which relied on the programming efforts of one dedicated free software programmer.
Altho the discovery was declared a "tie", it was my impression at the time that the university-based effort had actually won the race. Here is a broad-brush history.
https://www.yourgenome.org/stories/why-was-there-a-race-to-sequence-th
e-human-genome
So, in a previous video by [some guy] who [claims to be the] [biggest underwriter of intagible assets around the world] he complains, at some point, that DNA information is "interleaved" and that we don't really know the sequence.
That problem has apparently been solved lo these many years ago.
Anyway, that's my understanding of the process. RNA is sequenced similarly, altho it is made of somehwat different building blocks.
The point being that all of this knowledge ...
the role of DNA and RNA in protein synthesis [DNA makes RNA and RNA makes protein was known 50 years ago],
how to sequence DNA and RNA,
where DNA and RNA are active, and where they are not.
"epigenetic" factors that turn DNA on and off, etc ...
were known long before Covid-19 reared its ugly head. That knowledge is not tainted by current political considerations. There is some basic knowledge that must be stipulated when discussing SARS-CoV2, and if not stipulated must be backed by evidence ["Extraordiary claims must be backed by extraordinary evidence"]
Show me the evidence.
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Proteins are assembled by RNA IN RIBOSOMES, NOT IN THE NUCLEUS.
In the nucleus, the proteins are made from the mRNA sequence in a process known as translation.Quote:
Yes, obviously, so he's wrong. But why are you assassinating the russian? it's not an article about science, his point is that the work shows signs of being copied from a soviet bioweapons program. I mean, you don't need this article anyway to see that it's a bioweapon, I was just pointing out that it was known information that programming an overactive immune response to the point of being potentially fatal was a bioweapon tactic.
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That fundamental misunderstanding colors everything that comes after. There is a CONSTANT conflation of RNA and DNA, which is being used to drive fears of "genetic modifications".
no, it doesn't. the authors claim is not that the person is being altered, it's that it's bioweaponry, which it isQuote:
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They also found the way to effectively hijack the body’s natural immune processes by producing overstimulation of the immune system through the “reprogramming”
HOW???
Evidence-free claim.
Why are you hating this russian guy. And don't pretend you didn't follow that logic, you can't know enough to post the rest of the things you posted here and not get the point that even the temporary execution of non-nucleic code to produce the toxic spike protein would cause the immune system to overreact, mistake other tissues for the spike protein, as that spike protein is designed to do, and additionally we know that the response is so overpowered the immune system attacks the specific tissue that is executing the mRNA code causing destruction of that tissue in an autoimmune fashion which is why Phil's dad's lungs exploded, it's why we have 800,000 reports of just this sort of attack in an official report I just posted from the industry itself.
We do know this already. You know this already. You're arguing semantics to shoot down a point that you already agree with by wrapping it in the collective misunderstanding that the vaccine rewrites your DNA which we all know it doesn't, but that doesn't mean the point is not true about the mRNA transcription in the cell of the vaccine code causing the toxic effect observed in the 800,000 reports because you already know that it does.Quote:
Antibodies are NOT cytokines. This has nothing to do with 'cytokine storm'
We all know how the immune system works. the cytokine storm brings the immune response that results in the dendrites et al collecting and creating the antibody reponse. If anyone here does not know how it works, here's a simple videoQuote:
And so, should we trust this author who CLAIMS to know about Soviet biowarfare technology but makes fundamental errors about biology and countless baseless claims?
fair criticism, and this occurred to me, so he knows about the program but was not the scientist. I got that. Maybe he's making it up and Lew has been had.
I ran into the piece a few days ago and you had asked how this was related to bioweapons. It's how you do bioweapons. AIDS would make a terrible battlefield bioweapon. The common cold would be more effective in disabling the enemy troops. my only point was this is how bioweapons work, and I don't need argue it, we already know it was classified as bioweapons research when they were doing it here. Quote:
You say you used to work in this field, DT. If you did, you would have caught his basic errors. You also said you were a tomato farmer and that you descended from European nobility.
I did catch them. I haven't grown tomatoes in years. I think everyone is descended from
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the law is not a system of videogame rules. It's founded on a concept called "the spirit of the law" which is "what was the lawmakers' intent" when writing the law. I don't really specifically care whether a russian writing about a soviet bioweapons program offhandedly gets our law wrong, but we do have laws against bioterrorism, which the application of here had already reached the point where the team was spooked enough that they moved from chapel hill NC to wuhan china. So whether we, or the authorities, or some russian think that they were violating the law, the perpetrators themsevles were quite sure they were violating the law. look up the gain of function research also.
This vaccine was already patented before the outbreak occurred. research was done over 20 years, it's a SARS outbreak with a SARS vaccine made in early 2019, and the outbreak was almost certainly the intentional release of the pathogen. I'm sure the biden administration already knows this, which is why I posted the thread about Avril Haines, because her comments betray that we already know this.
The issue of the conspiracy theory is that since our team moved from chapel hill nc to wuhan china where the outbreak later occurred, and were working on the mrna vaccine and also the coronavirus gain of function, as soon as we had the patented vaccine, we released the virus ourselves. I'd say this is 99% likely.
So the technicals of where they were or weren't breaking the law is immaterial as they do damn well they were breaking the law, and violating international treaties. I don't think they'd be okay by Chinese law either, but they'd been here since 2002, and then they moved to China in 2018, so chinese authorities would have to have been more on to them in a year than americans in 20 years.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of MISinformation about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.
You didn't fix it.
Both statements are true.
How many people do you think that got the shot know 1/1000th of the information and/or misinformation that you do?
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All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.
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Basically. I mean that's why I called them vaxtards. They injected themselves with a bioweapon without first knowing what it was that they were injecting themselves with. Now I don't feel that's appropriate if they looked the information up and were lied to. But I think most people didn't. Tjey were like "doc, this stops the bad bad?" And doc said "yep kiddo, it stops the bad bad. now i gotta do the jab jab and they you go home"
Problem is,
Siggie
you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true. So why argue against information you is true? At this point, I'm giving up. You get it, you know what's going on, and you just need to re-examine your own psychological investment as to why you're backing up corporations that you know to be corrupt who are conducting bioware, who you know to be conducting biowarfare, and that may endanger you and yours.
I didn't come here to win a debate for political gain, I posted this to save lives. You now have enough information to save yourself and others. If you choose not to do so, then that's on you.
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.
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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."
Basically. I mean that's why I called them vaxtards. They injected themselves with a bioweapon without first knowing what it was that they were injecting themselves with. Now I don't feel that's appropriate if they looked the information up and were lied to. But I think most people didn't. Tjey were like "doc, this stops the bad bad?" And doc said "yep kiddo, it stops the bad bad. now i gotta do the jab jab and they you go home"
Problem is,
Siggie
you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true. So why argue against information you is true? At this point, I'm giving up. You get it, you know what's going on, and you just need to re-examine your own psychological investment as to why you're backing up corporations that you know to be corrupt who are conducting bioware, who you know to be conducting biowarfare, and that may endanger you and yours.
I didn't come here to win a debate for political gain, I posted this to save lives. You now have enough information to save yourself and others. If you choose not to do so, then that's on you.
That's why I don't have to bother wasting any of my time reading anything about this virus or its vaccine.
It was made by liars, and pushed by liars to the people who get lied to every day of their lives.
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Quote:So far, DREAMTROVE, you have not brought true facts about the vaccine to the board.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVESiggie
you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true.
It is not transmissible.
It does not contain fetal cells.
It has not- so far- been shown to change DNA, and is unlikely to do so.
It has no overlap with syncytin.
No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.
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YES, there was all kinds of research going on with SARS [and other viruses] long before SARS-Cov2. That is the nature of research!
YES, there is a cabal of extremely powerful psychopaths who want to rule - oh, and btw, depopulate- the world.
But intentions alone don't accomplish goals. If that were true, then Soros and Gates and Schwab would already have depopulated the world! As powerful as they are, they have to act in the real world, through real mechanisms, that leave real evidence. So as much as their intentions are evil ... and I will grant you that all day long and twice on Sunday that these people are evil megalomaniacs... they are not omnipotent. Their fantassies and desires don't come true automatically.
Again, please bring EVIDENCE to the board on how this vaccine is a "bioweapon". Show me HOW it is supposed to do what you claim.
Thank you!
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the vax is not self-replicating (as well as not being transmissible)
you can't spray it from the air and expect people to be vaxed
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Quote:Well, SIX you also claime the virus is "nothing".
6IXSTRINGJACK:
All I know from this thread right now is that there are reams of information about the virus and the vaccine that not 0.001% of the dummies that got vaccinated have any clue about.
DREAMTROVE: Basically. I mean that's why I called them vaxtards. They injected themselves with a bioweapon without first knowing what it was that they were injecting themselves with. Now I don't feel that's appropriate if they looked the information up and were lied to. But I think most people didn't. Tjey were like "doc, this stops the bad bad?" And doc said "yep kiddo, it stops the bad bad. now i gotta do the jab jab and they you go home"
Problem is,
Siggie
you clearly have enough understanding of the topic to get my point and you're intentionally dodging it. which means that you're creating a disingenuous argument to dodge around debating facts that you know are true. So why argue against information you is true? At this point, I'm giving up. You get it, you know what's going on, and you just need to re-examine your own psychological investment as to why you're backing up corporations that you know to be corrupt who are conducting bioware, who you know to be conducting biowarfare, and that may endanger you and yours.
I didn't come here to win a debate for political gain, I posted this to save lives. You now have enough information to save yourself and others. If you choose not to do so, then that's on you.
SIX: That's why I don't have to bother wasting any of my time reading anything about this virus or its vaccine.
It was made by liars, and pushed by liars to the people who get lied to every day of their lives.
If so, then the vaccine is LESS THAN nothing.
I'm sure this was all started by some [possibly evil-intentioned] escaped experiment.
At this point, tho, governments (which have a somewhat different focus that the Davos crowd) are floundering on how to get a handle on this escapee which, being single-stranded RNA, mutates rather easily and has managed to evade all attempts at control.
It's a great money-maker for Big Pharma in the west.
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Sig,
I said I was done, and I'm done. Sorry
You clearly have enough facts to arrive at the conclusion. That's all I was here to do. You can choose not to admit the conclusion. But that doesn't mean you have not arrived there. You did arrive there. And you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. With two sockpuppets.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So far, DREAMTROVE, you have not brought true facts about the vaccine to the board.
It is not transmissible.
It does not contain fetal cells.
It has not- so far- been shown to change DNA, and is unlikely to do so.
It has no overlap with syncytin.
No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.
Okay, one at a time , but not debating this. This is an undead argument at this point.Quote:
It is not transmissible.
never said it was, this is your claim, not mineQuote:
It does not contain fetal cells.
again, your claim, not mineQuote:
It has not- so far- been shown to change DNA, and is unlikely to do so.
also not mineQuote:
It has no overlap with syncytin.
obviously it does. you can read the fact check written by morons for morons that belongs to the vaccine companies, or you can dig through all the science. or you can read a number of reports out there who say "not enough overlap" which would be true if the vax didn't cause dozens of separate immune attacks. Fact is, the vaxed have this problem. Guy came into my shop and said "no, it was fine, I got the vax, and nothing happened. That guy smells like a rotting corpse. Everyone else can smell it and can't stand to be near him now. But he doesn't smell it. He thinks he's fine. He's a fricking zombie.
fact check
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-syncytin/fact-check-avail
able-mrna-vaccines-do-not-target-syncytin-1-a-protein-vital-to-successful-pregnancies-idUSKBN2A42S7
fact check never says something's false unless it's already proven true
some science that doesn't contain arguments if you want to do the research yourself
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092852/
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/there-is-no-risk-of-or-infertil
ity-from-covid-19-vaccines-as-sars-cov-2-proteins-and-placenta-proteins-are-different/
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/sars-cov-2-spike-protein-sh
ares-sequence-with-a-human-protein-67596
I spent 5 minutes looking for this piece easlier that said "small overlap" and was on a pro-vax page, i think there is a lot of that about, i didn't find it, but i read at least two. The thing about small overlap is dozens of separate attacks creates the 20% i see in "one in five smells like old people" and then it all just makes intuitive sense for the love of god. So, if everyone gets their boosters, it'll be 100% eventually. Or 95% which is the kill ratio bill gates said he wantedQuote:
No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
I just posted to you 800,000 such cases earlier in this thread. So it doesn't matter what it is or isn't theoretically, it's admitted reality but the industry's own data collectionQuote:
NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.
not even sure what this claim is supposed to me. the US govt kicked them out. They're still banned in belarus. interestingly where that research was being done in theory. Quote:
YES, there was all kinds of research going on with SARS [and other viruses] long before SARS-Cov2. That is the nature of research!
YES, there is a cabal of extremely powerful psychopath
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I'm going to jump in right about now.
Quote:No, it doesn't. I even posted the genetic sequences of both, along with the 3-d structures. There is no overlap.
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
"It has no overlap with syncytin"
obviously it does.
Quote:Such as? Links? BTW, the list of supposed vaccination problems was merely a list of things people noted after the vaccine.
which would be true if the vax didn't cause dozens of separate immune attacks
"I got the vaccine, and I got a cold". Well I could link a bunch of things in time that have no cause-and-effect relation of one to the other. I got up, and I saw the sky was cloudy. He sneezed, and his car wouldn't start. They sang a song, and there was a small earthquake. Believe it of not, things happen in sequence over time that have no cause-and-effect relationship with each other, at all.
Quote:For one thing, the 2-nonenal 'smell' you originally claimed came from the vaccine (or was it the virus?) smells nothing like a rotting corpse. And do you know what he normally smelled like, by any chance? Or do you think he might have just eaten eggs, or cheese, and needed to brush his teeth? I can think of a lot of reasons why someone might smell bad, either chronically or temporarily, that have nothing to do with 2-nonenal or a vaccine.
Guy came into my shop and said "no, it was fine, I got the vax, and nothing happened. That guy smells like a rotting corpse. Everyone else can smell it and can't stand to be near him now. But he doesn't smell it. He thinks he's fine. He's a fricking zombie.
As to the links you posted that you seem to think indicate a relation between spike protein and syncytin ...
Quote:This link doesn't at all address any viral spike protein at all or SARS-CoV-2 at all. It addresses the envelope protein of non-specified viruses. So it fails to draw any relevance to syncytin and SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Furthermore, you've fundamentally misunderstood that there are different proteins in SARS-CoV-2 by equating them. Spike proteins and envelope proteins are very different proteins. "The coronaviral genome contains four major structural proteins: the spike (S), membrane (M), envelope (E) and the nucleocapsid (N) protein" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32342926/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092852/
Quote:This link actually denies any similarity between syncytin-1 and spike protein, it's stated right up front.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/there-is-no-risk-of-or-infertil
ity-from-covid-19-vaccines-as-sars-cov-2-proteins-and-placenta-proteins-are-different/
Quote:And this link talks about a potential similarity with a sodium protein channel IN SKIN and the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, not with syncytin.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/sars-cov-2-spike-protein-sh
ares-sequence-with-a-human-protein-67596
I don't know what you think you're proving with these links, but maybe you should look further, "if you want to do the research yourself ".
Quote:See above.
No overlap with the human genome has been demonstrated, thus it is unlikely to cause autoimmune response.
I just posted to you 800,000 such cases earlier in this thread.
Quote:The argument is clear. The companies that are making vaccines are in hard economic competition with each other. For sure they're reverse-engineering the vaccines of their competitors. If any company found something suspicious about another vaccine, it would be in their economic intere
NO institution - commercial or national- with a compelling competing interest has ever brought any criticism to the public about the fundamental nature of the vaccine.
not even sure what this claim is supposed to [be].
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