Stupid voters enable broken government

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NIKI2

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:14 PM

Hoo, boy, is HE ever right!

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Whenever I visit Washington, I can't help but think this is the town that elected a crackhead as its mayor.

I know, I know it's not PC to say, but just because it's insensitive doesn't mean it isn't true.

But think about this: There is footage of Marion Barry in a room of crack smoke saying, "Bitch set me up." And yet that image, that video did not disqualify him from being seen as a viable political option in the mind of voters. In fact, not only was he re-elected mayor after serving time in a federal prison, today he sits on the City Council, all because he managed to convince enough black people that the video of him with the crack pipe in his mouth was white people's fault.

When analyzing what is wrong with our government, allow me to present this example as Exhibit A.

Exhibit B would be Newt Gingrich, who cheated on two wives and is the only speaker of the House to have been disciplined for ethics violations. And yet somehow he is running for president of the United States as a religious conservative and managed to get 8% of the votes during last week's straw poll in Florida.

Are you freaking kidding me?

The fact that he is even on camera discussing the country's sense of morality during the GOP debates should be offensive to any thinking person regardless of party affiliation. And yet someone, right now, is thinking about sending his campaign a check.

And who can forget Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who last year, in trying to push a controversial immigration law, said law enforcement officials found headless bodies in the desert, the work of a Mexican cartel. But she was forced to admit that wasn't true, that she had "misspoke." What she didn't speak about was her close ties to the private prisons that were set to profit because of the new law. Ties like her campaign manager and her spokesman being former lobbyists for private prison companies. And despite the obvious conflict of interest, she won easily, saying on election Tuesday, "Tonight, the people have redeemed and renewed America."

Nice work, people.

I could go on but I think you see what I'm getting at: The biggest reason government is broken is because of voters.

Let's face it. A lot of us are just plain stupid.

Or at the very least lazy.

We want our candidates to use easy-to-digest buzz words such as "family values" or "clean energy" so we don't have to actually invest too much time thinking. We can just slip our brains into auto-pilot and cruise on into November.

Do I believe our politicians need to be perfect? No.

But damn, you would think people would draw the line at crack.

Or blatant hypocrisy.

Or just making stuff up as a candidate goes along.

Each time Rep. Michele Bachmann insinuates falsehoods into her arguments, as she did earlier this month on the "Today Show" by suggesting HPV vaccinations cause mental retardation, I think: A group of people on auto-pilot in Minnesota did this to us.

When you know important debates are influenced by people who don't like being bothered with facts, you question just how many of the country's problems over the years have been caused by people who should not have been involved in the process in the first place.

But they are because of us. So can we genuinely complain about government without accepting a lot of the blame? I don't think so. After all, they didn't elect themselves. So if we want government to work, we have to be smarter about our choices. It's one thing to have a population with a variety of political sensibilities; it's another to be a country full of idiots. Too many times we vote and consequently govern like the latter.

We have to move away from easy-to-repeat campaign slogans and promises of easy solutions, because we're a country with more than 300 million people, a complicated racial and

ANTHONYT

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:17 PM

Hello,

The 'thinking' voter hasn't done much better.

Stupid government enables broken voters.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

NIKI2

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:21 PM

I dunno, Anthony. I think it depends on your definition of "thinking" voters...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

BYTEMITE

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:22 PM

Niki, I've gotten into this argument with Sig as well, and frankly, I don't think you can blame voters for politicians being ambitious and powerhungry in the first place, for becoming inevitably corrupted by the power their position grants them, for the way the game changes them because that's the only way to play, or people for expecting their leaders to act with a little bit of decency.

So no, I don't put it on the voters. I don't buy the arguments of the power-elite that we're all dumb animals and it's our own fault for putting them in charge. I don't believe that if the voters were to just vote for the right person, EVERYTHING could be fixed and "America could be put back on course"/"We could create a modern day utopia"/ etc.

I even think that ends up perpetuating the problem, some kind of bizarre blame the victim mentality that all the politicians are laughing up their sleeves at us falling for, because if we continue to believe it's our fault, if we continue to not hold them accountable, nothing ever has to change. And that feeds in directly to the question of "what's the right choice," and what they want us to conclude is "well, it's certain political party, and everything that goes wrong is the fault of other political party." Even though they end up 'compromising' on everything and those compromises are generally good for them and their corporate buddies and bad for everyone else.

ANTHONYT

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:26 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I dunno, Anthony. I think it depends on your definition of "thinking" voters...

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

Hello,

You thought long and hard. You voted for the right politician. You maybe even got the man you wanted sitting in the chair.

And now, don't you occasionally find yourself wishing that the chair had a switch on it?

Sometimes the only thing that keeps a man in power is the vast quantity of worse candidates. So what is the 'thinking' voter to do? What did you do? What will you do next?

Nothing new, I wager. There is no correct answer to this multiple choice test.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:31 PM

This may be true, but freedom = eternal vigilance.

I don't believe government is stupid at all, at the core.

"Stupid Government", whether from the right or from the left is nothing more than an episode of American Idol. Mindless entertainment and persuasion.

It's what 99% of what the RW forums here are based on.

Keep fighting, "Righties" and "Lefties".....

Divided we fall.... :(

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

The 'thinking' voter hasn't done much better.

Stupid government enables broken voters.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."

NIKI2

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:34 PM

Unfortunately, Anthony, you're right insofar as your argument goes. But people who pay attention have no chance of making their vote heard as long as there are enough stupid voters out there who buy into the buzz words and propaganda. If there were ENOUGH thinking voters to have power, I believe things WOULD be different.

I vote for the "lesser of two evils" and I will again, because I'm only GIVEN two viable choices; if thinking people did the nominating (or even got active in getting someone sensible NOMINATED), it would be different. JMHO.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:35 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
And now, don't you occasionally find yourself wishing that the chair had a switch on it?

Occasionally ?

I still like my exploding collars idea.

-F

NIKI2

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:37 PM

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"Stupid Government", whether from the right or from the left is nothing more than an episode of American Idol. Mindless entertainment and persuasion.

Well said, 6ix. We elect "handsome" candidates, actors, people who say what we want to hear...that's pretty "stupid".

But I'm not sure what you mean by

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It's what 99% of what the RW forums here are based on.

What do you mean by "RW"? My first thought is "right wing", but I don't think the forums HERE are right wing, so you must mean something else...?

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, September 29, 2011 3:39 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Unfortunately, Anthony, you're right insofar as your argument goes. But people who pay attention have no chance of making their vote heard as long as there are enough stupid voters out there who buy into the buzz words and propaganda. If there were ENOUGH thinking voters to have power, I believe things WOULD be different.

I vote for the "lesser of two evils" and I will again, because I'm only GIVEN two viable choices; if thinking people did the nominating (or even got active in getting someone sensible NOMINATED), it would be different. JMHO.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

While also realizing and appreciating that the "lesser of two evils" is completely subjective, right?

Right?????????

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."

EDIT TO ADD: RW forums meant our RW forums here. :)

ANTHONYT

Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:01 PM

Niki,

Real World.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

M52NICKERSON

Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:34 PM

I think it is the voters’ faults, including those who choose not to vote. People are unwilling to pay attention and debate the issues, but willing to vote based on single stances and rhetoric.

...and that is on both sides.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

NIKI2

Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:46 PM

Oh. Thanx, Anthony...I didn't think there was more than one, so the plural confused me...

"Yup" to everything you said, Nick.

And yes, 6ix, it's subjective, but which of the Republican candidates do you figure is the lesser of two evils? I shouldn't ask, because you already expressed a preference for Ron Paul, but in my subjective opinion, they are ALL nutcases...so far.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:28 PM

Speaking of people who elect trashy folk to office. My city's current mayor was kissing his 17 year old intern during his stint as Commissioner, keep in mind that he was in his 40s, and as soon as the intern turned 18 they rutted. And then he lied about it on top of that, while he was running he said he didn't do that stuff and then after he was elected it slipped out that he was lying. And my stupid city mates didn't even recall him, there were a few efforts but my city is so morally screwed up that it didn't work and he's still the mayor. Talk about embarassing, :8 Yucky.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

GEEZER

Friday, September 30, 2011 1:48 PM

Yep. Time for a return to literacy tests, poll taxes, property ownership requirements, loyalty oaths, etc. so only the right people get to vote.

Sorry, but if you want a democracy, you gotta put up with people voting however they will. If you can't sell your vision, it may be the wrong product, or you may be telling the wrong story.

BTW, Marion Barry being returned to the D.C. Council by the voters in his (mostly African-American) ward, after his crack arrest and more recent troubles with the IRS, might be looked upon as supportive of Herman Cain's contention that Blacks are brainwashed.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

M52NICKERSON

Friday, September 30, 2011 2:50 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Yep. Time for a return to literacy tests, poll taxes, property ownership requirements, loyalty oaths, etc. so only the right people get to vote.

Sorry, but if you want a democracy, you gotta put up with people voting however they will. If you can't sell your vision, it may be the wrong product, or you may be telling the wrong story.

BTW, Marion Barry being returned to the D.C. Council by the voters in his (mostly African-American) ward, after his crack arrest and more recent troubles with the IRS, might be looked upon as supportive of Herman Cain's contention that Blacks are brainwashed.

See, no one is arguing which side is right, or that voters are stupid because they don't vote for a particular side.

The issue is that people vote but take no responsibilty for the flaws of government.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

BYTEMITE

Friday, September 30, 2011 3:02 PM

Oh.

...

Well, I still don't think FAULT or ENABLE are the right words here, but if we're arguing about how money can buy someone out of anything, even crime, criminally negligent leadership, or really stupid policy and decision, and therefore how the voters are powerless to make their representatives behave, then okay. I can get behind that point.

SIGNYM

Friday, September 30, 2011 3:26 PM

BYTE: part of "holding politicians accountable" is to vote them out. Fire them, as it were.

BUT... you all seem to accept the idea that the only entity with an interest in a stupid populace is gubmint.

Well, government does not control the media. It doesn't air daytime soaps and reality shows and endless (ENDLESS!) commercials. It doesn't push the idea that the only goals in life are to be sexy and popular, to buy lots of shit, that everyone lives fulfilling lives, and that YOUR happy ending will come in 30 minutes (or an hour, less commercial breaks). It doesn't encourage hero-worship. It doesn't create loan documents with such obscure legalese and fine print that it would take a dual-PhD in accounting and law to parse them. It doesn't preach nonsense from the pulpit, or blather nonsense over the airwaves.

Any entity that wants to control what you do... and that includes business and religion... wants to make you stupid. God forbid you should think for yourself.

BYTEMITE

Friday, September 30, 2011 5:16 PM

Yeah, like firing them really stops them. They usually just end up in some non-elected position, either government or corporate, and the corruption goes on.

Really, you'd have to hold the possibility of jail time or punishment over their heads, but unfortunately with how things currently work they can get out of that.

...But, okay, yes, the government relies on a stupid - or rather, partisan indoctrinated - public to function. But that's not to say the public is to blame for a guy being bribed by big oil with hookers, or convinced to start a war because Lockheed Martin has some shiny new tech they want to test out. Public stupidity doesn't even really ping on the "criminal action" scale, whereas politicians and corporate entities dominate it.

It still seems like blaming the victims to me. If someone is dumb enough to get conned, they're still a victim, aren't they? And aren't the con-artists the ones to blame?

GEEZER

Friday, September 30, 2011 5:19 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
See, no one is arguing which side is right, or that voters are stupid because they don't vote for a particular side.

I'm not arguing that any particular side is right, either.

But the argument is being made by the article Niki cited, and apparently by Niki herself, that "Stupid voters enable broken government".

This leads to the question "What are we to do with those stupid voters?"

Unfortunately, "stupid voters" usually ends up being defined as "People who don't vote as I would". And the result of anyone controlling who can vote, by poll tax, literacy test, etc. is that the folks who don't vote the 'right' way - in the opinion of those controlling - don't get to vote.

The only answer I can see is to let folks vote for Barry or Bachmann if they wish, but try to convince them it's not the best idea.

If you have any other suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them.

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The issue is that people vote but take no responsibilty for the flaws of government.

Or support the government they elected. This has been pointed out here as one of the problems with Pres. Obama's term so far. Many of his supporters, once he was elected, said "Our job here is done." and left him to try to deal with Healthcare and other issues without grassroots pressure and support.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

KWICKO

Friday, September 30, 2011 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
And now, don't you occasionally find yourself wishing that the chair had a switch on it?

Occasionally ?

I still like my exploding collars idea.

-F

Or at least a shock collar, like some people put on recalcitrant dogs...

M52NICKERSON

Friday, September 30, 2011 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
I'm not arguing that any particular side is right, either.

Then I appologize, it seemed as you were.

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Originally posted by Geezer:
But the argument is being made by the article Niki cited, and apparently by Niki herself, that "Stupid voters enable broken government".

This leads to the question "What are we to do with those stupid voters?"

Unfortunately, "stupid voters" usually ends up being defined as "People who don't vote as I would". And the result of anyone controlling who can vote, by poll tax, literacy test, etc. is that the folks who don't vote the 'right' way - in the opinion of those controlling - don't get to vote.

The only answer I can see is to let folks vote for Barry or Bachmann if they wish, but try to convince them it's not the best idea.

If you have any other suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them.

That is all you can do is try and get people to pay attention. That and convince them they (as a whole) are responcible for the outcomes.

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Or support the government they elected. This has been pointed out here as one of the problems with Pres. Obama's term so far. Many of his supporters, once he was elected, said "Our job here is done." and left him to try to deal with Healthcare and other issues without grassroots pressure and support.

I agree!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

M52NICKERSON

Friday, September 30, 2011 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
It still seems like blaming the victims to me. If someone is dumb enough to get conned, they're still a victim, aren't they?

Not once they realize what is going on, but choose not to do anything about it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

BYTEMITE

Friday, September 30, 2011 7:28 PM

Pretty sure they're still victims. Do you know how often a victim of a regular con ever gets compensation? Ultimately, if you can't bring the con-artist to justice for whatever reasons, there really isn't much you can do. And these politicians, they seem like con-artists to me. They ask for your support, take your money, and there's no guarantee they'll use it for what they said they'd use it for.

We have to make there be consequences, and no, them resigning from office or not being reelected is not a consequence that has any impact on them.

M52NICKERSON

Friday, September 30, 2011 11:33 PM

The problem is we see that, and keep voting them in. I'm sorry but that old saying rings true in this respect, Fool me once, sham on you. Fool me twice, sham on me.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

SIGNYM

Saturday, October 1, 2011 1:51 PM

The problem is that we do not agitate for a less corruptable system.

For example: the reason WHY money is so important to candidates is because broadcast advertising is so expensive. The FCC grants licenses to the bandwidth (which is owned by the people) for "the common good". Why can't it just require that airwave media provide a free set amount of advert time to credible candidates. (BTW- I would go for a 2-week moratorium on either paid or free political advert just b4 an election. That would reduce the amount of broadcast hysteria.)

Another thing: We should try to set in place more direct democracy.

Still, although government tends to rely on stupid voters, it's really not government that makes ppl stupid on a day-to-day basis. I really place blame for that on (corporate) media and religion. So, how do we stop corporate and religious brainwashing?

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, October 1, 2011 5:46 PM

Oh man, where to even start...

Well, by choice I'd start with reforms of the public education system, of course.
And I would terminate "faith-based" funding which is just cover for shelling out tax money to officially approved religions, in violation of the first amendment.

As far as media goes, I'd say nationalize broadcast but historically that's a bad idea, so I figure best way to do that is do away with the bullshit which ensures only corporations wind up with broadcast rights - MI has a kind of look the other way thing goin on with "pirate" radio, and some of it is pretty good, but of course with freedom of speech you get haters, racists and nutters too...
But without corporate backing they can't really dominate the airwaves like they do now.

Of course, if you'd rather solve it at a stroke than nitpick it to death - eliminate corporate personhood, OR, as has been mentioned, hold them "personally" accountable for criminal activity.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

M52NICKERSON

Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I'd say nationalize broadcast but historically that's a bad idea,

I don't know, the BBC works pretty well.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

MAL4PREZ

Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:48 PM

This makes me think of two things:

1. When Princess Diana died, all of England and much of the world bitched and moaned about the evil paparazzi. I felt I was the only one thinking: stop buying every rag that prints a picture of Di, you morons. Then the photographers would stop chasing her. But the idiots just went out and bought more.

Yes, stupid people. Incapable of connecting cause and effect. Incapable of deciding NOT to be a part of the cause.

2. I was just reading about Perry and his "skepticism" of climate change, which reminded me of old threads on RWED. Otherwise intelligent-seeming posters stated their belief that scientists make all this up so they can get funding.

Ok, wait... Must get this off my chest...

Scientists falsify their research for money, but Big Oil and its politician leeches (Perry) would never do such a thing?

Scientists who have tenured jobs falsify their research for money, but Big Oil, with employment and income that depends solely on profit, would never do such a thing?

Scientists who work for educational institutions falsify their research for money, but Big Oil which exists purely to make a profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who might make 100K or so a year falsify their research for money, but Big Oil controlled by managers/stock holders with million dollar bonuses/incomes funded by company profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who must submit their work to peer-reviewed journals falsify their research for money, but Big Oil that only needs to stand up to the rigorous standards of Faux news would never do such a thing?

BTW, which science classes did Perry take in college? How were his grades?

Talk about stupid.

I really wish Perry would hold a town hall meeting in my town, and give me the mic.

Yes, I blame voters for being stupid and getting us into this mess. Reagan I can excuse, but Bush? In 2004 no less? Stupid stupid stupid.

It gives me an odd and dark sort of comfort, actually. If America crashes and burns, it's because we've earned it. Any society that puts Bachmann or Palin or Perry or Cain in charge is only a danger to the world and should clean the slate and start over. I only hope the crash and burn, if we don't wise up and avoid it, isn't too ugly. The fall of Rome was followed by 1000 years of darkness...

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CUDA77

Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:28 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
This makes me think of two things:

1. When Princess Diana died, all of England and much of the world bitched and moaned about the evil paparazzi. I felt I was the only one thinking: stop buying every rag that prints a picture of Di, you morons. Then the photographers would stop chasing her. But the idiots just went out and bought more.

Yes, stupid people. Incapable of connecting cause and effect. Incapable of deciding NOT to be a part of the cause.

2. I was just reading about Perry and his "skepticism" of climate change, which reminded me of old threads on RWED. Otherwise intelligent-seeming posters stated their belief that scientists make all this up so they can get funding.

Ok, wait... Must get this off my chest...

Scientists falsify their research for money, but Big Oil and its politician leeches (Perry) would never do such a thing?

Scientists who have tenured jobs falsify their research for money, but Big Oil, with employment and income that depends solely on profit, would never do such a thing?

Scientists who work for educational institutions falsify their research for money, but Big Oil which exists purely to make a profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who might make 100K or so a year falsify their research for money, but Big Oil controlled by managers/stock holders with million dollar bonuses/incomes funded by company profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who must submit their work to peer-reviewed journals falsify their research for money, but Big Oil that only needs to stand up to the rigorous standards of Faux news would never do such a thing?

BTW, which science classes did Perry take in college? How were his grades?

Talk about stupid.

I really wish Perry would hold a town hall meeting in my town, and give me the mic.

Yes, I blame voters for being stupid and getting us into this mess. Reagan I can excuse, but Bush? In 2004 no less? Stupid stupid stupid.

It gives me an odd and dark sort of comfort, actually. If America crashes and burns, it's because we've earned it. Any society that puts Bachmann or Palin or Perry or Cain in charge is only a danger to the world and should clean the slate and start over. I only hope the crash and burn, if we don't wise up and avoid it, isn't too ugly. The fall of Rome was followed by 1000 years of darkness...

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Socialist and unashamed about it.

MAL4PREZ

Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:41 PM

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DREAMTROVE

Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:49 PM

Democracy:

A psycho stands in front of you, and offers you a choice. "You can be killed by the awl in my left hand or the axe in my right hand." I guess that's a democratic choice.

The way our democracy works, if there are ten hostages, and 6 vote for the axe, we all get axed.

However, in our democracy, if 3 vote to be axed and two vote to have out eyes gouged out with an awl and five refuse to be killed, we all get axed again.

Then we have voter fraud. The pro-awl crowd proves that really it wasn't 3 people saying axe, but one person jumping around the room saying axe three times, and two people saying awl, and 7 people who wanted to live, then they have a huge uphill battle to fight to show that we have in fact decided for the left hand, and we each get an awl in our brain, regardless of how each of us individually voted.

Then, some political commentator will come in and say "The system isn't perfect, but it's better than having no psycho in the room with weapons trying to kill us."

8 other people in the remove remain silent, and one agrees, and so among those who commented, support for that notion was unanimous.

I guess if we were to upgrade our political system and get rid of all the fraud and corruption, the above is what we would have.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

KWICKO

Sunday, October 2, 2011 1:35 AM

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Then we have voter fraud. The pro-awl crowd proves that really it wasn't 3 people saying axe, but one person jumping around the room saying axe three times, and two people saying awl, and 7 people who wanted to live, then they have a huge uphill battle to fight to show that we have in fact decided for the left hand, and we each get an awl in our brain, regardless of how each of us individually voted.

You know there really haven't been any substantiated cases of any kind of systematic widespread voter fraud in the last 50 or more years, right? I think what you mean is "election fraud", where one person reporting the results says "axe" three million times, when in fact the real results would have been five million votes for "freedom".

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, October 2, 2011 1:36 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
And yes, 6ix, it's subjective, but which of the Republican candidates do you figure is the lesser of two evils? I shouldn't ask, because you already expressed a preference for Ron Paul, but in my subjective opinion, they are ALL nutcases...so far.

Who isn't crazier? That mindless left-wingnut we have in the seat today?
I know Ron Paul will never win, but I continue to vote for him because (just like MySpace gives you badges for being "old school" today, i could say I told you so when everyone else comes around someday.

Seriously..... is this "Change" working for you?

Ask anyone who was here 5 years ago....

I LOATHED GWB!!!!!!

LOATHED!

I didn't vote for O'Bammy, but I hate him even more for tripiling GWB's largest deficit in his first year and then starting another illegal war with Libya later in his "career", after selling his votes on ending war and bringing our children home...

F'ing Liar.

Just like the Rethugs....

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."

KWICKO

Sunday, October 2, 2011 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
This makes me think of two things:

1. When Princess Diana died, all of England and much of the world bitched and moaned about the evil paparazzi. I felt I was the only one thinking: stop buying every rag that prints a picture of Di, you morons. Then the photographers would stop chasing her. But the idiots just went out and bought more.

Yes, stupid people. Incapable of connecting cause and effect. Incapable of deciding NOT to be a part of the cause.

2. I was just reading about Perry and his "skepticism" of climate change, which reminded me of old threads on RWED. Otherwise intelligent-seeming posters stated their belief that scientists make all this up so they can get funding.

Ok, wait... Must get this off my chest...

Scientists falsify their research for money, but Big Oil and its politician leeches (Perry) would never do such a thing?

Scientists who have tenured jobs falsify their research for money, but Big Oil, with employment and income that depends solely on profit, would never do such a thing?

Scientists who work for educational institutions falsify their research for money, but Big Oil which exists purely to make a profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who might make 100K or so a year falsify their research for money, but Big Oil controlled by managers/stock holders with million dollar bonuses/incomes funded by company profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who must submit their work to peer-reviewed journals falsify their research for money, but Big Oil that only needs to stand up to the rigorous standards of Faux news would never do such a thing?

BTW, which science classes did Perry take in college? How were his grades?

Talk about stupid.

I really wish Perry would hold a town hall meeting in my town, and give me the mic.

Hell, he won't even hold such town hall meetings in Texas, for fear someone will ask him such uncomfortable questions.

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Yes, I blame voters for being stupid and getting us into this mess. Reagan I can excuse, but Bush? In 2004 no less? Stupid stupid stupid.

What I said back around 2005 or so was that I could forgive someone for voting for Bush once, as a youthful indiscretion or a mistake, but to vote for him TWICE? That took not just ignorance, but aggressively stupid malice.

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It gives me an odd and dark sort of comfort, actually. If America crashes and burns, it's because we've earned it. Any society that puts Bachmann or Palin or Perry or Cain in charge is only a danger to the world and should clean the slate and start over.

Okay, I don't mean to harp on it, but THAT was pretty much the point Gino was trying to make way back when. And honestly, if you think that a "clean slate" is going to happen without several million deaths at a minimum, you're dreaming. His solution was political assassination, if I recall, or targeted bombing. Seems horrific, but it's "cleaner" than utter chaos, I have to say.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

M52NICKERSON

Sunday, October 2, 2011 2:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
This makes me think of two things:

1. When Princess Diana died, all of England and much of the world bitched and moaned about the evil paparazzi. I felt I was the only one thinking: stop buying every rag that prints a picture of Di, you morons. Then the photographers would stop chasing her. But the idiots just went out and bought more.

Yes, stupid people. Incapable of connecting cause and effect. Incapable of deciding NOT to be a part of the cause.

2. I was just reading about Perry and his "skepticism" of climate change, which reminded me of old threads on RWED. Otherwise intelligent-seeming posters stated their belief that scientists make all this up so they can get funding.

Ok, wait... Must get this off my chest...

Scientists falsify their research for money, but Big Oil and its politician leeches (Perry) would never do such a thing?

Scientists who have tenured jobs falsify their research for money, but Big Oil, with employment and income that depends solely on profit, would never do such a thing?

Scientists who work for educational institutions falsify their research for money, but Big Oil which exists purely to make a profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who might make 100K or so a year falsify their research for money, but Big Oil controlled by managers/stock holders with million dollar bonuses/incomes funded by company profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who must submit their work to peer-reviewed journals falsify their research for money, but Big Oil that only needs to stand up to the rigorous standards of Faux news would never do such a thing?

BTW, which science classes did Perry take in college? How were his grades?

Talk about stupid.

I really wish Perry would hold a town hall meeting in my town, and give me the mic.

Yes, I blame voters for being stupid and getting us into this mess. Reagan I can excuse, but Bush? In 2004 no less? Stupid stupid stupid.

It gives me an odd and dark sort of comfort, actually. If America crashes and burns, it's because we've earned it. Any society that puts Bachmann or Palin or Perry or Cain in charge is only a danger to the world and should clean the slate and start over. I only hope the crash and burn, if we don't wise up and avoid it, isn't too ugly. The fall of Rome was followed by 1000 years of darkness...

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I will third that....

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

M52NICKERSON

Sunday, October 2, 2011 2:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Seriously..... is this "Change" working for you?

Unfortunately its has not gotten here yet. It was blocked by a bunch of people clinging to guns, bibles and teabags.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

GEEZER

Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Why can't it just require that airwave media provide a free set amount of advert time to credible candidates.

The fun here starts when you have to decide who can impartially pick the "credible" candidates.

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So, how do we stop corporate and religious brainwashing?

You don't, or you're just as bad as they are. You offer alternatives.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

MAL4PREZ

Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Yes, I blame voters for being stupid and getting us into this mess. Reagan I can excuse, but Bush? In 2004 no less? Stupid stupid stupid.

What I said back around 2005 or so was that I could forgive someone for voting for Bush once, as a youthful indiscretion or a mistake, but to vote for him TWICE? That took not just ignorance, but aggressively stupid malice.

Fool us once, shame on Bush, fool us twice... um... OK, we did get fooled again.

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It gives me an odd and dark sort of comfort, actually. If America crashes and burns, it's because we've earned it. Any society that puts Bachmann or Palin or Perry or Cain in charge is only a danger to the world and should clean the slate and start over.

Okay, I don't mean to harp on it, but THAT was pretty much the point Gino was trying to make way back when. And honestly, if you think that a "clean slate" is going to happen without several million deaths at a minimum, you're dreaming. His solution was political assassination, if I recall, or targeted bombing. Seems horrific, but it's "cleaner" than utter chaos, I have to say.

No no no. Not at all.

First, there's a difference between someone IN THE SYSTEM, feeling powerless, grasping for any silver lining, and a person outside the system saying that everyone in the system needs to die because of the actions of a few.

Gino, who's not American, said that Americans should pay with our lives for what what our leaders did. We weren't willing to get our sniper rifles out and kill W, so we're at fault. (Recall that I asked him - But Gino, you never brought your rifle over the border and killed Bush, so aren't you at fault as well? According to your rules, don't you deserve to die too? Never got a response to that.)

My feelings are more like someone in a bad relationship who's been trying for years to convince herself it'll work. At some point I have to realize that it can actually end. And maybe it should. Maybe there's something better out there.

This doesn't mean I've decided to grab the meat cleaver and partake in bloody murder of my boyfriend! I don't want things messy, and I said as much though you didn't quote that part of my post.

If you (and Gino) inevitably tie change with violence, that's your issue.

And no, I'm not dreaming. What did MLK and Ghandi accomplish? How about the Middle East lately? Go Wisconsin! Go Verizon strikers! Go Occupy Wall Street! This is the stuff that needs to happen.

Now, what Gino could not see, but I know you can Kwicko, is that this attitude of his was right in line with the ideas of Bin Laden. Killed innocent citizens? Targeted bombing? How'd that work for OBL in 2001? How is it going for us in Afghanistan and Iraq?

And using this approach on ourselves, inside on our country? Is that what you mean? Are you insane? Bullshit it'd be cleaner! All it would do is destroy us, destroy our remaining character and cohesion. America may have an active Upsurge of Idiots to deal with, and a high-powered elite oligarchy buying up the govt, but there are ways to fight this without turning ourselves into Al Quaeda.

Again - go Occupy Wall Street! I'm going to visit them today. Looking into buying them some pizza or something.

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KWICKO

Sunday, October 2, 2011 2:10 PM

As far as "How'd it work for Bin Laden?", I'd have to say he pretty much won. He got everything he wanted. He said he'd be a martyr to his cause, so we killed him, fulfilling his wish. He said he'd embroil the U.S. in wars it couldn't afford or sustain, and we promptly attacked and invaded numerous countries, again fulfilling his wish. His actions have pretty much spelled the end of the American Empire, according to the conservatives around these parts at least.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:05 AM

No other form of government really works that well, saying, Democracy is the best system of government; well soemtimes it can be kinda crap it does not mean it is perfect, just that it is better than all others.

Biden administration interfering in Hungary’s 2022 general elections, says Hungarian deputy state secretary
https://dailynewshungary.com/biden-administration-interfering-in-hunga
rys-2022-general-elections/

McConnell Sends Trump a Very Clear Message About 2022
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2021/10/21/mcconnell_sends_trump_a_v
ery_clear_message_about_2022_554620.html

What Democrats’ House retirements mean for 2022 election
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/oct/25/what-democrats-house-
retirements-mean-for-2022-ele/

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 8:15 PM

A terrible thing to even dream or ask but Will there ever be an Acceleration, maybe something like A.I could add the spark, a crossing the Rubicon to restore the Republic and Constitution, Neoreactionaries. Maybe it is worst thing yet to happen worse than a Third party far more dangerous than a Third position the neoreaction, focuses on the fundamentally flawed tenets of modern western culture. A cultural reconquista to defend against invaders they say the final Inquisition against the infiltration invaders and they say only morality is civilization. Any toxic anti-American belief or hateful Anti-America ideology that works against civilization is evil no matter how well-intentioned. The Overton window shifting back and forth and suddenly a process is shifting of phenomenon from unthinkable to a radical degree and suddenly we have other fringe break away speed up movements?

Secession, Brexit, Texit?
The Secret of My Secession
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/the-secret-of-my-secession/
Polish withdrawal from the European Union?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polexit
Cal-exit? Meet the movement for Californian secession
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cal-exit-meet-the-movement-for-california
n-secession/
Yes California is a Californian political action committee that promotes the Independence of the state of California from the United States. Advocates for secession are called disunionists by their contemporaries in various historical documents.

Americans are among the most dissatisfied with their government, according to a new survey of advanced countries by the Pew Research Centre.
Eighty-five per cent of adults in US who were surveyed wanted significant changes in their political system, while 76 per cent wanted changes to the healthcare system and 66 per cent wanted major changes in the economy.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/americans-among-most-dissatisfied
-in-the-world-and-majority-want-overhaul-of-politics-health-and-economy/ar-AAPWrlD?ocid=msedgntp ...maybe the Doomsday will not come, there won't be an apocalypse. Just more crime, more drugs, more shipping problems and maybe just a slow decent into technotyranny...when shit hitting the fan actually happens, there will be no forewarning.

Maybe it was Neo-Con Bush jnr that got the whole thing rolling with the Patriot Act or maybe it begis some other time it was the Dixie Chicks getting death threats for not fully supporting invading Iraq? A crazy Feminist Black screams at Jews then another Black man scream at a Jewish woman 'I wish Hitler were still here murdering your children!'
Shocking anti-Semitic rant is captured on doorbell camera in Brooklyn as man berates woman in street...the identity politics transexual Left is now confused over which side it should be supporting? a confused position indeed to support a tranny shape shifting NYC Negroid-Nazi???
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1453050930631483399
Curtis Yarvin, NRx’s chief ideologue, describes himself as a ‘formalist’
https://criticallegalthinking.com/2021/01/12/mob-constitutionalism-the
-riot-in-the-rights/
Unqualified Reservations by Mencius Moldbug
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/

Does the French have too much islamo-apologist homosexual open borders faggotry on the tv?
Don't worry they say
France: Eric Zemmour Now Pulls Ahead of Marine Le Pen
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/10/france-eric-zemmour-now-pulls-ahead
-of-marine-le-pen
Patrick J. Buchanan: Can Poland Be Poland—and Stay in the EU?
https://vdare.com/articles/patrick-j-buchanan-can-poland-be-poland-and
-stay-in-the-eu

The wiki

Quote:
The Dark Enlightenment, also called neo-reactionary movement (sometimes abbreviated to NRx), is an anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian, reactionary philosophy. In 2007 and 2008, Curtis Yarvin, writing under the pen name Mencius Moldbug, articulated what would develop into Dark Enlightenment thinking. Yarvin's theories were elaborated and expanded by Nick Land, who first coined the term Dark Enlightenment in his essay of the same nam

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:50 PM

Ah, the good old days!

Sometimes we used to have really interesting discussions!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 11:22 PM

Quitting California, the Commiefornia Collpase and Leaving for for Texas...the new Texit
Why are some tech companies leaving for Texas?
https://www.newsoneplace.com/15708982012/texit-texas-companies-leaving
EU pushes Poland towards POLEXIT: Nation is ordered to pay € 1 million a day
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10136223/EU-pushed-Poland-POL
EXIT-Nation-ordered-pay-1million-day-judicial-row.html

Hegelian Dialectic: A Tool To Enslave Humanity
http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/social-engineering/hegelian-dia
lectic-a-tool-to-enslave-humanity/
Paradigm Shift: Instead of Jailing People, New York Drops Thousands of Arrest Warrants for Marijuana
https://www.activistpost.com/2018/09/paradigm-shift-instead-jailing-pe
ople-new-york-drops-thousands-arrest-warrants-marijuana.html
Hopium Leaders
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/06/22/hegelian-dialectic/
"Paper just came out of King's College at the University of London. Titled "America's Political Paradigm Shift," this paper focuses a good deal on QAnon. "
https://mobile.twitter.com/QAnonNotables/status/1211605646325374976
Paradigm Shift: After Arresting Thousands for It, Police Dept. Claims Officers Can Now Smoke Weed
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/paradigm-shift-after-arresting-thous
ands-for-it-police-dept-claims-officers-can-now-smoke-weed/
Paradigm Shift: 'Migrant Rights' Activists Who Led Caravans Charged With Human Trafficking
https://www.redstate.com/slee/2019/06/10/paradigm-shift-migrant-rights
-activists-led-caravans-charged-human-trafficking/
What Is The Hegelian Dialectic?
https://www.rooshv.com/what-is-the-hegelian-dialectic

Those that hope the system is breaking?

Will post a bitchute clip, a guy talking about 'the Redpill'

I wasn't sure about this 'Curtis' Guy he seemed to be banned off the interwebs... they wanted him shutdown and censored simply for talking, for dangerous wrong think ....or maybe he truly is offensive. Yarvin also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug ...unfortunately he believes in some sort of Theocracy or Monarchism rule of State which typically become terrible period of Rule

He even mnetions some of the new religion, the New KickBall Religion, the new Stadium and Religiously Follow Sportsball Temples?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/uEiHBNS63foK/

English Soccer Topic... ' they kneel to george floyd at the start of every premier league game now '
'If you assume everything woke is good and true then you can understand why people are doing this...'
'but that's not what actually is going on...and its actually kinda weird and creepy'

True or false? ...maybe true
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/12/hungary-supporters-fi
ght-with-police-inside-wembley
https://news.sky.com/story/hungary-fans-clash-with-police-during-engla
nds-world-cup-qualifier-at-wembley-stadium-12432520

There is no intellectual on “The Right” that has anything interesting to say other than Curtis Yarvin. Virtually all of the “Dissident Right” merely paraphrases Yarvin, his ideology has completely crushed anything else on the Right.
Which is, of course, why Yarvin was stood up in the first place. Yarvin is merely a repackaging of Neo-Conservatism, which was itself merely a repackaging of Zionist Imperialism using the rhetoric of “democracy.”
I’m the only person that has ever pointed this out and I’ve been pointing and sputtering for years but no one cares. Irving Kristol, the “Godfather of Neo-Conservatism” discovered Peter Thiel
https://bannedhipster.home.blog/2021/08/05/yarvin-is-the-only-game-in-
town-beyond-yarvinism/
Curtis Yarvin the Unqualified Reservations (UR) was written in a fundamentally different intellectual period, he chats and writes and a sort of American Hundred Flowers period — a period when everyone thought the Internet had made the thought-control state a thing of the past.
https://www.publicmedievalist.com/dark-enlightenment/
As a medieval studies professor, I try to free my students f

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, November 1, 2021 1:47 AM

Are there plans to destroy democracy like something from a 'Bond' villain movie? The theocratic powers Vs the socialism powers?

If democracy were to collpase what system would replace it, perhaps it would be even more insane. Bangladesh, Thailand, and Turkey have seen democracies completely collapse and others use the military to restore their original government or constitution?

So one would think that perhaps in America with 'Freedom of Speech' it would be impossible for a Tyrant, a Religious mad man, an Atheist Communist type to take power, ins't America a place for the religiously free, is it not impossible to be a Hindu Radical, an Atheist Bomber, a Shinto Kamikaze because of that Freedom inside the constitution and what of times of War and Terrorism when a Constitution is suspended? The new progressive left and sometimes called a regressive Neo-Liberal tends to emphasize freedom from religion, especially freedom from the influence of traditional religious sexual morality but they sometimes ally with the Perverts and they also want islamists coming in through open borders, homosexuals who support the islamics who throw gays from buildings...so how does that confusion work? Social conservatives, by contrast, can emphasize the Bible passages or the 'God' it is their the right to be religious, especially the freedom to live and act in the public square according to one’s religious convictions, but what of the islamists again these people who claim to have the final say over the Jewish and Christian faith, claiming to be the same religion continuity, is islam nothing more than an invasive cult, could it be re-classed as a political system giving an ability to 'Ban-Islam'? So the shift now is the morally religion type President Joe Biden’s recent transexual support and identity politik, an idea that transgender equality is the “civil rights issue of our time,” the conflict between these competing views of religious liberty will only be amplified. If religion would collapse in America tomorrow perhaps the believer would find something else to believe in, they would take something else from the Middle East or North American hippie Paganism, or new age Asian culture or European, perhaps 'belief' and religion custom is part of human nature itself.

Want to hear something really scary? We're living through the death of democracy, but thankfully there's a solution.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/want-hear-something-really-scary-133200159.
html
business insider claims?

Quote:
Democrats are democracy

Stalin, Atheism And Communism ...people ask for Socialism but wont talk about the Mass killings under communist regimes?
https://whistlinginthewind.org/2012/05/14/stalin-atheism-and-communism/
A mass murder and holocaust you never hear of?

Quote:
It is estimated that Stalin is responsible for the deaths of 43 million people and the Soviet Union as a whole for 63 million

While Communism attacks faith
perhaps people will still believe in some kind of cult or religion?

The belief or religion apolcapyse version?

Learning from History and when
Folklore and Myth and Religion becoming a Historical reality

Archaeologists stunned as Tower of Babel story questioned: 'Way to rewrite history'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1507596/archaeology-news-tower-
of-babel-destruction-questioned-babylon-rewrite-history-spt

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Researchers have since suggested that the story may have been an attempt to explain the existence of various human languages; others claim the tower is pure myth, a metaphor.
There is evidence, however, which suggests that the tower was was constructed under the watch of the great King Nebuchadnezzar II
In 586 BC, in a bid for world supremacy, he laid siege to Jerusalem, which was 500 miles to the west.
His army sacked the city and captured the most highly-skilled and highly-educated citizens.

These people were then brought to Babylon as prisoners of war, and forced to work for Nebuchadnezzar — the start of

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:40 AM

and now some France news

Macron slammed for 'fooling voters' with 'cheap gimmicks' ahead of French elections
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1514784/emmanuel-macron-france-
french-election-energy-crisis-fuel-crisis-marine-le-pen-national-ra

France’s Macron Leads Le Pen and Zemmour in Ifop Election Poll
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-16/france-s-macron-lea
ds-le-pen-and-zemmour-in-ifop-election-poll

Emmanuel Macron is a spineless frog, says François Hollande !

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/10/20/emmanuel-macron-spin
eless-frog-says-francois-hollande/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, November 6, 2021 5:04 PM

So I watched a few clips of Biden on this climate change thing, Biden and Boris Johnson falling asleep in Glasgow.

I agree with stopping pollution, its wise not to mess up your own backyard and smart not to pollute the planet.
There is no doubt mankind can change the enviornment and humanity has polluted the seas, the air and the land and rovers.

However there is something weird about the whoe thing its controlled and processed and other part of the group, its like a cult Q-Anon thing with these 'Extinction Agenda' people blocking up trade and traffice and there's that Greta kid she's on all the magazines looks like some sort of Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, always on media, I can't stand to listen to her for more than 60 seconds, way to immature... She made the Time Magazine cover and Forbes whenever they wanted to walk of new Taxes, she usually has an angry face...I don't know where they got her from, some place in Sweden her mother did musicals and 'Eurovision', she has a grandfatehr in media, another 'Lena Granhagen', Swedish actor and director and other banks and products and media linked family I believe.
Greta Thunberg calls Cop26 a ‘greenwash festival of empty promises’

I do agree with the critics of the 'corruption' trading carbon credits with poorer nations so the big industrial richer ones can pollute more does seem like a scam.

Meanwhile China invests in Thorium, Dam for hydroelectric and Fusion, beaming free energy down from space and other technology, while the Western Luddite can only consider a trading credits scam and taxing us more?

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, November 22, 2021 1:05 AM

More than 2,100 children separated at border 'have not yet been reunified,' Biden task force says Only seven children have rejoined their families since Biden took office.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/more-2-100-children-separ
ated-border-have-not-yet-been-n1269918

Our military didn’t lose the war in Afghanistan, our politicians did
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2021/11/21/our-military-
didnt-lose-the-war-in-afghanistan-our-politicians-did/

SECOND

Monday, November 22, 2021 3:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Our military didn’t lose the war in Afghanistan, our politicians did
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2021/11/21/our-military-
didnt-lose-the-war-in-afghanistan-our-politicians-did/

The original sin of the war, he says, was its shift to nation building shortly after the Taliban were driven from power in December 2001 and Osama bin Laden evaded capture at Tora Bora and found refuge in Pakistan.

Bing’s a no-nonsense kind of guy, so I get straight to it: “You’ve long been critical of nation building in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Your nonfiction books The Wrong War and One Million Steps: A Marine Platoon at War (2014), and most recently a novel, The Last Platoon (2020), all center around this. How did you decide to move away from nonfiction and write a novel?”

“I said, I can write a story that is a metaphor for the entire war, but centers around a captain on the battlefield with an ambitious colonel who represents the ambition of the military, and then link that back to the perceptions in the White House, which were crazy, just totally disconnected.”

Crazy? I ask him to describe what he means. “Afghanistan was a crazy military operation,” he says, “because anyone on patrol on the ground out there wandering around, trying to talk to these tribesmen who were hurling headlong into the Ninth Century would know that the tribal culture of Afghanistan had nothing to do with what we considered democracy. Therefore, for generals to be saying they could do this was crazy. The generals did not go out on patrol. And that’s what I was trying to point out in my novel. The people on the ground knew this couldn’t be done. And the generals kept insisting it could be done.”

“I’ve been on battlefields for 20 years — four or five years in Vietnam, four or five years in Iraq, four or five years in Afghanistan — and of the three of them, Afghanistan was the most absurd. It’s not a country. It is a pathology. It’s a deeply Islamic tribal culture. And we conceded to the terrorists a sanctuary called Pakistan. It made no sense what we were doing militarily.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, November 26, 2021 6:05 PM

California’s Future of Pan-Enclavism?

https://robertstark.substack.com/p/californias-future-of-pan-enclavism

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California is a multicultural patchwork with countless examples of existing enclaves such as Chinatowns?, Tehrangeles and Koreatown in Los Angeles?, as well as the many Chicano and Mexican neighborhoods?. Beyond existing designated enclaves, there are broader de-facto pan-enclaves with examples including Asian American areas in the San Gabriel Valley and parts of Northern Orange County, both South and East Asian areas throughout the Silicon Valley, African American areas in Historic South LA and parts of Oakland and Richmond in the Bay Area, and the heavily Jewish parts of LA’s Westside and San Fernando Valley.
You could even make the case that many European American areas in California are beginning to function as enclaves. Examples include the Sacramento Suburbs in Placer County, Clovis in the Fresno metro, parts of Marin County and Central Contra Costa County in the San Francisco Bay Area, San Luis Obispo on the Central Coast, South Eastern Ventura County, South Orange County, and North San Diego County.

The rise of the neoclassical reactionaries
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-rise-of-the-neoclassical-react
ionaries

Island of Broken Toys - Gray Mirror
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/island-of-broken-toys

Curtis Yarvin, the “libertarian” far-right blogger, who’s famed for calling for a military coup in USA and for his campaign RAGE (Retirement of All Government Employees), is a genius to some and a crypto-fascist to others.
https://johnnyvedmore.com/2021/11/20/the-father-the-son-and-the-menciu
s-moldbug/

Palo Alto legislator warns California's redistricting plans will dilute Asian American voting power
https://news.yahoo.com/palo-alto-legislator-warns-californias-19565233
4.html

Proposed initiative would mandate government-issued identification To vote, Social Security Number to register
https://www.lassennews.com/proposed-initiative-would-mandate-governmen
t-issued-identification-to-vote-social-security-number-to-register/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, November 27, 2021 5:47 PM

New York Gov. issues state of emergency in response to omicron variant

The Deep State and Mocking Bird Media? Hollywood Leftist Debra Messing Calls Out Media on Waukesha Attack in Viral Tweet: ‘Not an accident; a domestic terror attack’
“Dear Mainstream Media—a man intentionally drove his car through a parade killing 6 and injuring 50+. It was not an ACCIDENT,” Messing tweeted. “Call it by its name#WaukeshaMassacre.”
“And it was a domestic terror attack. Don’t minimize. Please,” added the “Will & Grace” star.

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The original sin of the war, he says, was its shift to nation building shortly after the Taliban were driven from power in December 2001 and Osama bin Laden evaded capture at Tora Bora and found refuge in Pakistan.

Bing’s a no-nonsense kind of guy, so I get straight to it: “You’ve long been critical of nation building in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Your nonfiction books The Wrong War and One Million Steps: A Marine Platoon at War (2014), and most recently a novel, The Last Platoon (2020), all center around this. How did you decide to move away from nonfiction and write a novel?”

“I said, I can write a story that is a metaphor for the entire war, but centers around a captain on the battlefield with an ambitious colonel who represents the ambition of the military, and then link that back to the perceptions in the White House, which were crazy, just totally disconnected.”

Crazy? I ask him to describe what he means. “Afghanistan was a crazy military operation,” he says, “because anyone on patrol on the ground out there wandering around, trying to talk to these tribesmen who were hurling headlong into the Ninth Century would know that the tribal culture of Afghanistan had nothing to do with what we considered democracy. Therefore, for generals to be saying they could do this was crazy. The generals did not go out on patrol. And that’s what I was trying to point out in my novel. The people on the ground knew this couldn’t be done. And the generals kept insisting it could be done.”

“I’ve been on battlefields for 20 years — four or five years in Vietnam, four or five years in Iraq, four or five years in Afghanistan — and of the three of them, Afghanistan was the most absurd. It’s not a country. It is a pathology. It’s a deeply Islamic tribal culture. And we conceded to the terrorists a sanctuary called Pakistan. It made no sense what we were doing militarily.”

more news on the Afghan thing

Despite Biden vow, Afghanistan evacuees admitted to US underwent almost no vetting: report
https://1010wcsi.com/fox-politics/despite-biden-vow-afghanistan-evacue
es-admitted-to-us-underwent-almost-no-vetting-report/

Tucker Carlson: Biden's officials are turning on him, and it's about more than Afghanistan
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-biden-officials-turning
-more-than-afghanistan

The most optimistic reason for Biden’s awful polls
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/opinion/2021/11/27/commentary-vote
rs-like-bidens-policies-but-they-hate-pricey-gas/8739182002/

Quote:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Stupid government enables broken voters.

CA Could Require ID, Social Security Number To Vote?
https://patch.com/california/los-angeles/ca-could-require-id-social-se
curity-number-vote-survey

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:07 PM

Putin Invaded Ukraine, and Steve Bannon Says That’s a Good Reason to Impeach Biden

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/biden-impeachment-ukraine
-bannon-invasion/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:13 PM

The Pa. Constitution belongs to all of us. Not one political party | Patrick Beaty

https://www.penncapital-star.com/commentary/the-pa-constitution-belong
s-to-all-of-us-not-one-political-party-patrick-beaty/

Here's the Full Text of Biden's Executive Order on Cryptocurrency
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/heres-full-text-bidens-executive-170549650.h
tml

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
The Pa. Constitution belongs to all of us. Not one political party | Patrick Beaty

https://www.penncapital-star.com/commentary/the-pa-constitution-belong
s-to-all-of-us-not-one-political-party-patrick-beaty/

What I read is that the Governor is not King, and this is a good thing.

I think the title of that article was meant for another article.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, March 18, 2022 11:41 PM

Democracy, it can work
sometimes it sucks

but so far its the best and most stable system that works?

its a heck of a lot better than all the others

...yet some will claim otherwise

The Marxists Burning and Looting cities?

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/le-report-on-antifa-blm--
3-other-marxist-orgs/98612771/

https://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3244410-w
hy-media-completely-ignore-antifa-blm.html

https://mysurvivalforum.com/categories/general-discussions.1/

https://www.doomsdayprepperforums.com/forums/general-prepper-talk.72/

https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General-Discussion.html

https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/forums/#firearms.99

https://www.prepperforums.net/forums/#off-topic-section.247

Ruskie wars, Ukraine invasion and ban the conspiracy talk of US Biolabs...let's ban Russian Arts also?

More Bolseviks Stealing and Rioting

'So, where is Antifa and BLM ?'

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/blm-and-antifa-protests.818333
3/

https://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/threads/blm-antifa-mega-thread.1
12143/

https://www.beyond-the-fringe.com/showthread.php?tid=12942&page=2

Thiel, Silicon Valley and the Rise of Tech Neo-Reaction

Bloomberg Informs Dumb Retards That Saudi Selling Oil in Yuan Is No Big Deal

Dr. Oasis Kodila-Tedika on the Relationship between Intelligence & Economic Development

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/thiel-silicon-valley-and-the-rise
-of-tech-neo-reaction

https://www.unz.com/aanglin/bloomberg-informs-dumb-retards-that-saudi-
selling-oil-in-yuan-is-no-big-deal/#comments

https://counter-currents.com/2022/03/dr-oasis-kodila-tedika-on-the-rel
ationship-between-intelligence-economic-development/

Anti-Democracy Anti-voter crazies?

The Atavisionaries, the neoreactionaries, or the darkly enlightened consist of a number of different bloggers who coalesce around a series of concepts about democracy and government, civilization, human biological diversity, and traditional values among other things.
https://atavisionary.com/atavisionary/who-are-the-atavisionaries/

Gamergate and Comedy and the Arts?

Quote:
Sad Puppies was an unsuccessful right-wing anti-diversity voting campaign run from 2013 to 2017 and intended to influence the outcome of the annual Hugo Awards, the longest-running prize (since 1953) for science fiction or fantasy works. It was started in 2013 by author Larry Correia as a voting bloc to get his novel Monster Hunter Legion nominated for a Hugo award, and then grew into suggested slates, or sets of works to nominate, in subsequent years (led by Correia in 2014, and then Brad R. Torgersen in 2015).

For the 2015 Hugos, the Sad Puppies slate and overlapping Rabid Puppies slate, run by Vox Day, swept several entire categories of nominations. During final voting at the Hugos, however, all except one of those categories was voted "No Award"; in that category, Best Film, the Puppies nominated already-popular films

Let’s cut through the noise of the conversation - do you think a free person should be taken at gunpoint to a small room they are physically unable to leave - because they don’t want to wear a seatbelt?

https://twitter.com/Lwrong_txt/status/1503875354741649411

The Would-Be Czar's Dark Prophet

https://hnn.us/article/182605

Quote

Quote:
“Reactionary” originally meant someone who opposed the French Revolution, and today the term generally refers to those who would like to return to some pre-existing state of affairs. Neoreaction — aka “dark enlightenment — begins with computer scientist and entrepreneur Curtis Yarvin, who blogs under the name Mencius Moldbug. Yarvin — the self-described Sith Lord of the movement — got his start as a commenter on sites like 2blowhards before starting his own blog Unqualified Reservations in 2007. Yarvin originally called his ideology “formalism,” but in 2010 libertarian blogger Arnold Kling referred to him as a “neo-reactionary.” The name stuck as more bloggers — such as An

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, March 20, 2022 7:10 PM

Stupid people appointed Putin and then voters got Putin into power at 53% election votes back in the last 1990s? Vladimir Putin has since done almost everything in his power to make Russia less Democratic and send Russia backwards to Communist or Tsarist times.

and the biden Hunter Ukraine angle and gossip and rumors of Laptops?

The NYT Now Admits the Biden Laptop -- Falsely Called "Russian Disinformation" -- is Authentic
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-nyt-now-admits-the-biden-laptop

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, March 22, 2022 8:22 PM

Volodymyr Zelenskyy the tv fiesta gayish x-factor america got talent west wing show star got what 73% int he election ....to see his country go to shit, total invasion and complete ruin

Petro Poroshenko who held off Russia, started a process of EU trade, helped revive the local culture language, took the Orthodox Eastern Church away from Russia started Moscow–Constantinople schism, began administrative decentralization to take power away from the corrupted Capital city and stopped it taking the country gets what? 20% ?

People vote for the tv clown
The sucessful leader ignored
some of the rest of the idiots running for office were actual Nazis, Socialist Communists types, radical break away revolution groups or Pro-Russian stooges

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 24, 2022 5:51 PM

DeSantis rejects transgender win, signs proclamation recognizing 'rightful winner'

https://www.bitchute.com/video/V16h0lLxJwY/

NYPD detective says we need 'America First' policies

https://rumble.com/vy9rs6-nypd-detective-says-we-need-america-first-po
licies.html

Tarrare that man who ate too much, was born near Lyon in 1772.

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2022/03/tarrare-man-who-ate-too-much.htm
l

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, May 8, 2022 2:53 PM

The City of Londinium Election, Cité de Londra di Londres? an old Tax Haven for Stolen Bags of Money to be hidden away off shore? City of London Corporation election took place on 24 March 2022 to elect members of the Court of Common Council in the City of London Corporation, England, a globalist Temple & Farringdon Together global corporation doing very well?

https://web.archive.org/web/20171112084849/https://www.cityoflondon.go
v.uk/about-the-city/voting-elections/Pages/ward-elections.aspx

Biden reminisces about having lunch with 'real segregationists' back 'in the old days' of the Senate
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10791045/Biden-reminisces-hav
ing-lunch-real-segregationists-old-days-Senate.html

Election 2022 voters guide: Who you’ll see on the ballot for U.S. Senate and House races
https://www.centredaily.com/news/politics-government/election/article2
60546922.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, June 4, 2022 1:34 AM

Both parties searching for midterm magic

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/3511194-both-parties-searching
-for-midterm-magic/

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, June 10, 2022 8:27 PM

Democracy the Sham

https://neociceroniantimes.substack.com/p/democracy-the-sham?s=w

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 14, 2022 9:30 PM

168,000 deleted files recovered from Hunter Biden's laptop

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/technology/168-000-deleted-f
iles-recovered-from-hunter-bidens-laptop

The Economic Meltdown Has Roots in Lockdown

https://brownstone.org/articles/the-economic-meltdown-has-roots-in-loc
kdown/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 2, 2022 6:31 PM

The Cult Of Hoaxes

https://www.chattanoogan.com/2019/9/3/395591/The-Cult-Of-Hoaxes.aspx

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, July 5, 2022 5:54 PM

The 2-minute 20-second video that changes everything

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/the-2-minute-20-second-vid
eo-that

they pay people to be homeless, drug dealers are let go, open market
https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1529847068138778624

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 10, 2022 4:20 PM

Our Entire Civilization Is Structured Around Keeping Us From Realizing We Can Do This

https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/our-entire-civilization-is-str
uctured

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, July 27, 2022 11:13 PM

California Exodus Accelerated During Pandemic, Study Shows
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-07/california-exodus-a
ccelerated-during-pandemic-study-shows

Editorial: Hey, unhappy Biden voters — whom did you think you were electing?
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-
Hey-unhappy-Biden-voters-whom-did-17298297.php

SIGNYM

Wednesday, July 27, 2022 11:44 PM

Broken government under Biden*?

No shit. It was clear that he was never going to be anything more than a meat puppet. The only question was, whose fingers would be up his spine? And I never figured he was SOOO disabled as so that he couldn't even be that.

So, who are the DNC "leaders" now? Obama is still "leading from behind" ... trying to manipulate shit in the background. There's Biden*. Hillary. Pelosi. All of the tottering old-guard. Hillary embedded a coterie of necocons in the State Dept (Nuland, Pyatt etc), the CIA has its own gaggle of "interventionists" beholden to no one. There is, of course, the procurement office of Boeing, Raytheon, Northrup Grumman and General Dynamics AKA the Pentagon. And the FBI and DOJ have a well-entrenched staff of deep-staters who will live far beyond Hillary's and Biden's* political utility.

The establishment GOP is no better. This is a bipartisan problem.

It would take an exceptionally strong, adroit President and Chief of Staff to dynamite that network apart and I don't expect it to happen. Anyone who tries will be persecuted, prosecuted, vilified in the media and- at worst- assassinated.

There only question is, who is going to be the next politically-expedient face on this shit?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, August 10, 2022 3:12 PM

There was a guy called Curtis Yarvin known also a pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American blogger, software engineer, business entrepreneur. He is known for saying some offesive, a fringe Libertarian Restoration idea, he then says Alt-Right stuff or online his critics say he is known being a troll, or provocative, some even say he wants to restore Monarchy, that's so crazy so why would anyone listen to a Monarchist...or do people listen because the currenct system is done and because crazy names like this are growing ever more popular? these types present their views as a revival of the traditions of Western civilization, but unlike ordinary reactionaries who nostalgically view the past as the good old days, neoreactionaries are futurists who are more critical of the past, for example by rejecting the ideals of the Enlightenment, the guys CurtisYarvin / Moldbug with Nick Land they claim to have founded the anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment or neoreactionary movement NRx. The 'movement' if it can be called a movement is largely insignificant and mostly an object of curiosity but it seems to be growing all the time.

Two strokes of state
"It describes some other government, which is not our own."

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/two-strokes-of-state

Quote:

Some pundit emailed me and wanted to know: if I didn’t think making abortions a bit more inconvenient was a fair prize for decades of political street-pounding to finally capture a ruling majority on the Grand American Imperial Council—well, then, what is a proper goal for a Supreme Court majority?

At first I was like: do I look like Linda Greenhouse? Then later I got used to the idea. While it is a ridiculous question—my first answer would be “like, anything else”—sometimes a silly question deserves a serious answer. After all, we are the future.

There are two classes of answer. “Type A” answers are those in which the President and the Court have to work together in a unified strategic plan (one thinks at once of Lincoln’s “Stephen, Franklin, Roger and James”); “Type B” answers are those in which the Court can, in theory, act on its own without control of the White House.

Obviously, type B, a judicial coup alone, cannot reach the power of type A, a joint presidential-judicial coup. But type B strategies can still be useful. What makes a Court decision strategically useful? What makes any action strategically useful?
Strategic strikes and balls

An action is strategically useful if, after that action, it is easier to replace the regime. Let’s call a useful action a strike—making a useless or counterproductive one a ball. (Note that the French coup translates as strike.)

See how easy this is? Dobbs is not a strike, because post Dobbs, the elves get motivated and the hobbits demotivated. If the regime can only be changed by coordinated hobbit action against Elf-Ruled America, and this action becomes harder, Dobbs is a net lose—a ball.

Dobbs was struggle, not strategy. When in a trap, the universal rule is: don’t struggle. Don’t act wildly out of instinct—any trap will be designed for you to do exactly that. Your instinct wants you to throw balls. You need to train yourself to throw strikes.

The most obvious kind of strike is a decapitation strike, in which the regime changes in one blow. Here is a decapitation strike which does require coordination between the White House and the Court. I call this little play the “Humphrey’s Executive.” America has not seen a judicial coup like “the Hump” since Marbury v. Madison itself.
Type A: Humphrey’s Executive

The core of this strike is the repeal of Humphrey’s Executor, one of the core decisions protecting the Babylonian captivity of the Presidency, and thus of democracy itself. “Humphrey’s Executive,” in its full version, is a type A decapitation strike. (As usual with this straight-up coup shit, anything short of the full monty is a super bad idea.)

Humphrey—ironically, a spiteful anti-FDR act of the Old Cour

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:19 PM

A New Government Russia Russia Russia conspiracy Hoax

Washington Compost's story doesn't add up?

Bill Maher admits FBI raid is 'saving Trump politically' just as his fortune was 'finally falling'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-admits-fbi-raid-saving-trump-
politically-fortune-finally-falling

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, August 27, 2022 7:48 PM

The political mix of Delusionals, pajeets became super poo'ers boomers and zoomers and Low IQs without direction, Angry crazy seething drugged up fat they turn on themselves but need another enemy, the regurgitating Hopium who are coping

William Shakespeare, Troilus and Cressida
https://grandhotelabyss.substack.com/p/william-shakespeare-troilus-and
-cressida
appetite, will, and power

Introducing the Jouvenalian Theory of Political Order
https://sydneytrads.com/2020/02/20/pierce-mcnamara/
The more perceptive of our readers may have noticed our recent recommendation of the first book authored by neoreactionary Chris Bond, who is perhaps best known by his blogging name “Reactionary Future”.

The Century of The Self Comes To An End
https://voiceone.substack.com/p/the-century-of-the-self-comes-to
Coming Out From Under The Influence. Or how we went mad.

SIGNYM

Saturday, August 27, 2022 9:46 PM

The people who govern us aren't elected.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, September 4, 2022 4:35 PM

Keepers Year 2040; Socialist Paradise
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZFSQEg5EHTNV/

Any books that capture the banality of life in rural Japan
https://lulz.com/any-books-that-capture-the-banality-of-life-in-rural-
japan-448000-345777/

The Dark Enlightenment
https://forums.tcm.com/topic/259388-the-dark-enlightenment

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, September 5, 2022 2:55 PM

Let’s Stop Pretending America Is A Functioning Democracy

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/lets-stop-pretending-america-is-a

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, October 14, 2022 3:22 PM

The Hard Side of Soft Power

https://thediplomat.com/2013/07/the-hard-side-of-soft-power/

Amsterdam’s Conspiracy of Kindness Kind of Succeeds

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/10/amsterdams-conspiracy-of-
kindness-kind-of-succeeds

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 7:10 PM

No third party positions?

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, November 10, 2022 3:59 AM

the memes!

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, November 10, 2022 5:15 AM

It's time to get the Neo-Cons out for good.

I don't want to hear one more fucking word about abortion coming from a Republican's mouth ever again. In fact, while I don't care if a Republican goes to church or not, I want every Republican who talks about it in public to be ousted from office.

Put McConnell, McCarthy and Romney and the rest of the Neo-Cons out to pasture where Nancy Pelosi and the Clintons belong. I don't ever want to hear a single word from any of them again.

Fuck you Republicans. Fuck you so hard. You suck so fucking bad that you delivered us into two more years of Biden*'s agenda when every historical trend was in your favor.

I want the Democrats to win seats in the Senate, keep the house and gain at least one Gubernatorial slot when the votes are tallied.

If we're going to burn the world down, let's go all in. The time for half-measures is over.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, November 12, 2022 8:05 PM

elect

US Midterm Election watch along thread
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/us-midterm-election-watch-along-thre
ad/974619
Red Wave, Meet Blue Wall
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=525496
midterms 2022
https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=182883
Are You Going To Vote? And If So WHY ?
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/are-you-going-to-vote-and-if
-so-why-update-evidence-of-voting-fraud-in-midterms.10479/
So, the Democrats Won. What Now?
https://debatepolitics.com/threads/so-the-democrats-won-what-now.49635
3/

Colony empire collapse disorder chaos?

The "Thought Leader" of the Tech-Bro Monarchist (Fascist) Movement
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/11/7/2132028/-The-Thought-Leader
-of-the-Tech-Bro-Monarchist-Fascist-Movement

Curtis Yarvin & Angel Eduardo are talking about Balancing Liberty & Order ...will it be banned on u tube?

'Also, this with Ben Burgis is probably the worst podcast I’ve ever done. It’s important in these kinds of things not only to not get irritated, but to not irritate the target.'

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/streaming-with-lev-polyakov

Is “Cultural Marxism” a “Conspiracy Theory” or a Political Reality?
https://sydneytrads.com/2020/06/05/cultural-marxism-conspiracy-theory-
or-political-reality/

'Were Spartans based or a weird cult?'
https://lulz.com/were-spartans-based-or-a-weird-cult-391000-368069/
REPLY
They had laws, courts, government, and socially stratified cities. They were just extremely underwhelming cities even by ancient Greek standards, one of the opening points that Thucydides makes in the Pelopponesian War was that anyone who set eyes on the city of Sparta itself would be amazed that such a humble looking city could have exercised power on the international stage. Unlike the aristocrats of most city states who invested in public works to show off their wealth

"The Politicians Who Destroyed Our Democracy Want Us to Vote for Them to Save It"
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/listen-to-this-article-the-politici
ans#details

Nisi duae res necessariae
https://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/maverick_philosopher/2022/11/n
isi-duae-res-necessariae.html

Beautiful Trucking
https://thelorryist.substack.com/p/beautiful-trucking
Why I do this job

Revealed: The Former Israeli Spies Working in Top Jobs at Google, Facebook, and Microsoft
https://www.unz.com/article/revealed-the-former-israeli-spies-working-
in-top-jobs-at-google-facebook-and-microsoft/

Political Violence is the Exclusive Province of the Radical Right — Really?
https://medium.com/the-controversial-idea/political-violence-is-only-c
oming-from-the-radical-right-really-3dfa03bbbfc8
In the wake of the attack on Paul Pelosi, Democrats politicize the incident and collective amnesia sets in over the attempted assassinaton of Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Looking for the End of Unipolarity
https://neociceroniantimes.substack.com/p/looking-for-the-end-of-unipo
larity
It's in the interest of the American people to end the Global American Empire

Ready to own nothing and like it?
https://www.prepperforums.net/threads/ready-to-own-nothing-and-like-it
.127337/

“Criminal Collusion: FBI Illegally Leaked Privileged Project Veritas Communications and the NY Times Illegally Reported on Them”
https://atavisionary.com/criminal-collusion-fbi-illegally-leaked-privi
leged-project-veritas-communications-and-the-ny-times-illegally-reported-on-them/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Ready to own nothing and like it?
https://www.prepperforums.net/threads/ready-to-own-nothing-and-like-it
.127337/

Well... That alone makes me want the Democrats to lose either the house or the Senate no matter what.

Read what the pudding brain jagooff running the country passed as an executive order here:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2022/03/
09/executive-order-on-ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets/

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I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, November 15, 2022 2:50 PM

Peter Thiel, Leader Of The Rebel Alliance

Hoover Institution

https://player.fm/series/uncommon-knowledge-2908427/peter-thiel-leader
-of-the-rebel-alliance-peter-robinson-hoover-institution

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/peter-thiel-leader-of-the-rebel-
alliance-peter/id1378389941?i=1000585677103

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2UgCooS0f2jErmTEX1O1e8

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:51 PM

Theodore Beale Vox Day predicts that the United States will dissolve as a nation and predicts that this will happen by 2033
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/11/ron-paul-on-secession.html

Quote:

We already know the union of the forcibly United States will be divided. The younger union of the Soviet Socialist Republics broke apart 23 years ago. The European Union is visibly fracturing already. The much older union of the kingdoms of Scotland and England will be voting on its dissolution soon. The only thing we don't know is when the division will take place. As I have stated before, my expectation is that it will take place by 2033.

https://archive.ph/LOuqW

Theodore Beale known by the pen name Vox Day an American national traditionalist who did books, games, comics but got himself banned by the Neo Leftwings? Beale founded Castalia House publishing in Kouvola, Finland he builds his own version of wikipedia called InfoGalactic.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Print_syndication
,
https://infogalactic.com/info/Hearst_Corporation

Meme of the Week 006
https://voxday.net/2022/11/16/meme-of-the-week-006/
I’d chosen this week’s winner even before Donald Trump’s announcement that he’d be running for president again, but it’s particularly apt in light of that. It’s a powerful meme that not only points to the truth of the former president’s narcissism and complete failure of leadership, but also effectively triggers the emotions of those who continue to support the man and those who don’t alike. The only thing that prevents it from being a perfect meme is the execution of the dialogue balloon. 9/10.

The Problem with the New Right’s Skepticism of Elites
The New Right is not entirely wrong to criticize elites, but they offer no realistic alternatives to the existing system
https://www.discoursemagazine.com/ideas/2022/11/16/the-problem-with-th
e-new-rights-skepticism-of-elites/

Historic victory of Biden's Democrats in the US Senate elections
https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-11-13-historic-victory-of-biden
-s-democrats-in-the-us-senate-elections.ryS68FGCHs.html

Perhaps “America First” Trumpists are a hollow shell because there is no such thing as Trumpism and weirdo Tuckerism just comes across as a political ideology for people who say things like “political ideology”?
https://twitter.com/janecoaston/status/1591467472871464961

"Accelerating Toward Dark Enlightenment" by Iain Davis
https://azradale.substack.com/p/accelerating-toward-dark-enlightenment
Have you heard of "accelerationism"?

Dark Enlightenment Thinker
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3653939&
userid=178461&pagenumber=2

Rise of the Chief Twit: Is Elon Musk Curtis Yarvin’s Caesar?
https://americanpigeon.org/rise-of-chief-twit-elon-musk-curtis-yarvins
-caesar/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:28 PM

Election 2022: Time for the “Spoiler” Whining

https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/16/election-2022-time-for-the-spo
iler-whining/

Woke racism is out of control in the US

https://twitter.com/Lwrong_txt/status/1585066934328266752

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, November 21, 2022 8:47 PM

That EU is the biggest crazy of them all?

The Left in the European Parliament – GUE/NGL (The Left)
Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (S&D)
Greens–European Free Alliance (Greens/EFA)
Renew Europe (Renew)
European People's Party Group (EPP)
European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR)
Identity and Democracy (ID)
Non-Inscrits (NI)

http://www.europeanelectionstudies.net/

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/13540688221083553

https://web.archive.org/web/20090131055002/http://www.consilium.europa
.eu/cms3_fo/showPage.asp?id=1279&lang=EN

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3224666.stm

http://euobserver.com/19/30853

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, November 21, 2022 8:49 PM

A Non-Elected wins, where the globalist un-elected govern?

Sunak tries to pacify Brexiters but keeps door open to closer EU ties
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/21/sunak-tries-to-pacify
-brexiters-but-keeps-door-open-to-closer-eu-ties

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, November 24, 2022 7:34 PM

Nicola Sturgeon accused of 'copying Trump' after rebranding independence bid as 'democracy movement'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11465987/Nicola-Sturgeon-accu
sed-copying-Trump-rebranding-independence-bid-democracy-movement.html

Victoria’s finances ‘weakest since 1990s’ as election sees yet more spending promises
The Australian state suffered country’s sharpest economic slowdown due to long lockdowns

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/24/victorians-face
-a-choice-of-major-parties-determined-to-spend-their-way-to-power-analysts-say

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, November 26, 2022 10:01 PM

The West truly has faults but if you wanted to see Democracy die before it was even born look to Russians buying that bullcrap story of poor patriot Vlad and electing Putin, a Tsarist Dictator they might never get rid of

and back to the West

Canada's Trudeau defends using emergency powers to shut down Freedom Convoy protests

https://news.yahoo.com/trudeau-defends-emergency-powers-end-022623547.
html

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, November 29, 2022 10:24 PM

taxes?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1595143516006805504

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, December 5, 2022 4:35 PM

AOC apologizes for not listing her pronouns on Instagram: ‘They fell off’
https://nypost.com/2022/11/08/aoc-apologizes-for-not-listing-her-prono
uns-on-instagram-they-fell-off/

Mitch McConnell is to blame for Republicans’ flop in the Senate, but not for the reasons conservatives think
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/republicans-mcconnell-senate-majo
rity-2022-b2223968.html

THG

Monday, December 5, 2022 7:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It's time to get the Neo-Cons out for good.

I don't want to hear one more fucking word about abortion coming from a Republican's mouth ever again. In fact, while I don't care if a Republican goes to church or not, I want every Republican who talks about it in public to be ousted from office.

Put McConnell, McCarthy and Romney and the rest of the Neo-Cons out to pasture where Nancy Pelosi and the Clintons belong. I don't ever want to hear a single word from any of them again.

Fuck you Republicans. Fuck you so hard. You suck so fucking bad that you delivered us into two more years of Biden*'s agenda when every historical trend was in your favor.

I want the Democrats to win seats in the Senate, keep the house and gain at least one Gubernatorial slot when the votes are tallied.

If we're going to burn the world down, let's go all in. The time for half-measures is over.

T

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 6, 2022 5:53 PM

So both Republican AND Democrat or most no longer participate?

71% of Americans Say Our Elections Are Rigged

https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/71-of-americans-say-our-elections

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, December 6, 2022 8:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
So both Republican AND Democrat or most no longer participate?

71% of Americans Say Our Elections Are Rigged

https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/71-of-americans-say-our-elections

They're totally rigged. At least in Blue states. If they weren't rigged before the 2020 election, they sure were after many states went to unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots with drop boxes and ballot harvesting.

Too bad for Democrats that Republicans are better at cheating and now that it looks like they've realized the power that Democrats just gave them, Democrats are in a shit load of trouble in the future if they don't close up those cheating apparatuses while they still have the chance.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, December 28, 2022 6:41 PM

5 Elections To Watch in 2023 – What's at Stake As Millions Cast Their Votes

https://www.thequint.com/news/world/elections-to-watch-2023-pakistan-z
imbabwe-turkey-argentina-turkey

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, February 27, 2023 4:41 PM

Biden: Make America Last Again

https://spectator.org/biden-make-america-last-again/

President Biden is showing signs of Ronald Reagan - Megyn Kelly

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 16, 2023 8:23 AM

How will people of the future look back on this era, the political Antifa Rioter people, Hollyweirdos pushing their agendas, the 2024 election...confused about the meaning of a boy or a girl?

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 23, 2023 4:48 PM

A biological male who had never bicycled until age 40, just destroyed women in the NYC women's competition & won the top prize.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/male-athlete-wins-womens-cycling-r
ace-in-nyc/

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, April 2, 2023 4:12 PM

old story back as new

Stormy Daniels aka Stephanie Gregory Clifford
https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Stormy_Daniels
is a domestic abuser, wannabe politician and glorified prostitute who exploits a legal-loophole known as "The Porn Industry" to whore herself out without getting arrested for it – also she may or may not have had sex with American President Donald J. Trump

the old news

Rick Wilson: ‘We’ll Lose Religious Liberty,’ 2nd Amendment with President Hillary — but Trump Is Worse!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/08/08/rick-wilson-well-lose-re
ligious-liberty-2nd-amendment-president-hillary-trump-worse/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, April 8, 2023 3:34 PM

Robert F Kennedy Jr. for US President in 2024
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/robert-f-kennedy-jr-for-us-p
resident-in-2024.10846/

I don’t understand the intensity of the hatred for Trump
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-understand-the-intensity-of-t
he-hatred-for-trump/982150

Perhaps a Controlled Opposition?

Cyclopes one-eyed creature and Ben Shapiro

Why Were Some "Conservative" Media Figures Never Banned On Twitter?
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/why-were-some-conservative-media

Russia and Saudi Arabia are winning the energy war, as a clueless Biden administration fails to understand multipolarity
https://johnhulsman.substack.com/p/russia-and-saudi-arabia-are-winning
#details

Israel's two futures
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/israels-two-futures
"A classic Socialists vs. Revisionists rematch."

'Mexico is not a US colony!': AMLO condemns invasion threats, celebrates nationalization of oil, lithium
https://geopoliticaleconomy.substack.com/p/mexico-us-colony-amlo-oil-l
ithium
Mexico’s leftist President AMLO condemned “hypocritical” Republicans who want the US military to invade, declaring Mexico is "not a US colony or protectorate!" He also honored the expropriation of oil

U.S. Dollar "Fear Mongers" Only Need To Be Right Once
https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/us-dollar-fear-mongers-only-need
Everyone says the U.S. dollar losing reserve status could never happen. Okay, great. Now, what if it does?

Marco Rubio Accidentally Makes A Great Argument Against US Dollar Hegemony
https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/marco-rubio-accidentally-makes
-a

"We Can't Even Agree On What A Woman Is"
https://public.substack.com/p/we-cant-even-agree-on-what-a-woman

The Donald Trump Problem
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-donald-trump-problem
Donald Trump is not being targeted for the misdemeanors and serious felonies he appears to have committed but for discrediting and undermining the entrenched power of the ruling duopoly.

"Hyatt Hotels chairman, former Disney executive are among billionaires issued subpoenas in lawsuit over JPMorgan’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein – Here’s what we know!" by Liz Crokin

https://azradale.substack.com/p/hyatt-hotels-chairman-former-disney

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, May 2, 2023 7:50 PM

Can Biden win again? Here’s how past incumbents fared
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2023/05/02/can-biden-win-again-heres-h
ow-past-incumbents-fared/
No president wants to give up the power and prestige that comes with the office after only one term

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, May 17, 2023 2:41 PM

He won't debate?

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 22, 2023 2:01 PM

Why Biden won't debate, its because he can not win?

Polled Democratic voters want to see Biden debate RFK Jr.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/19/even-democrats-want-j
oe-biden-debate-robert-f-kenn/

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