Another Putin Disaster

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THG

Wednesday, October 20, 2021 4:39 AM (P)

U.S. Tells Russia to Return Crimea to Ukraine, Stop Cyber Attacks on America and Allies

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-tells-russia-to-return-crimea
-to-ukraine-stop-cyber-attacks-on-america-and-allies/ar-AAPInsh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:47 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

U.S. Tells Russia to Return Crimea to Ukraine, Stop Cyber Attacks on America and Allies

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-tells-russia-to-return-crimea
-to-ukraine-stop-cyber-attacks-on-america-and-allies/ar-AAPInsh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

T

I guess you meant: Another Biden* disaster.

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THG

Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:38 PM (P)

The oligarch raided by the FBI and how Mitch McConnell got the 'Moscow Mitch' nickname

Mitch McConnell's role in preventing Congress in 2019 from locking down sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, whose properties in New York and Washington, D.C. were raided by the FBI today, earned him the nickname "Moscow Mitch."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-oligarch-raided-by-the-fbi
-and-how-mitch-mcconnell-got-the-moscow-mitch-nickname/vi-AAPJfTr?ocid=msedgntp

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THG

Monday, October 25, 2021 7:12 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SO, I still can't figure out why the Biden* administration is trying to provoke war with both Russia AND China by opening the NATO door to Georgia and Ukraine (in the west) and promising to defend Taiwan (in the east).

It seems to me that if outright war developed between the USA and either Russia or China, the USA would lose, and definitely if the USA tried to take both on at the same time.

The USA is at least five years behind Russia in "hypersonic" technology (Russia has their hypersonic missiles deployed, the USA is testing various aspects of hypersonic technology right now).

This isn't just a recent move to distract from the Afghanistan debacle, because the USA has been trying to use Ukraine, Georgia, and Taiwan as cat's paws since at least May, secretly (and not so secretly) promising support if any of those nations would take on their relevant neighbor superpowers.

I guess first of all, those small nations would have to be insane to take that on militarily. THEY would be obliterated while the USA would basically still be safe, risking only those forces that our military chooses to commit. There's no way the USA could provide an umbrella to keep those nations safe.

So, more than likely, those small nations' first moves would be political, not military: declare independence, or begin the process of joining NATO. Since those are "red lines" for Russia and China, would their move be military? Because, again, those small nations would be obliterated. Of course, "world reaction" would be strongly against a superpower that destroyed a nation for its politics. Russia would be kicked out from SWIFT. China, too, might be kicked out from SWIFT, unable to spend its trillion dollars of Treasuries and USD.

So Russia and China might, instead, try something different:

Russia might take the coasts of Ukraine and Georgia and embargo those nations, shutting off gas, energy, and food supplies and all trade, China might do the same to Taiwan.

Comrade Signym is always crying about America starting a war with Russia. Never about all Russia does to undermine the United States. Never about all the hostilities perpetrated by Russia against America and even our foreign representatives. That’s why here she’s called Polish Russian Collaborator signym.

And for the record. If America does find itself in a war with Russia the countries listed below will be coming with us. Not that we'd need them. Be afraid comrade signym, be very afraid.

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Since Russia began its aggressive actions against Ukraine, Russian officials have accused NATO of a series of threats and hostile actions.

We set out the facts: http://bit.ly/NATOsettingtherecordstr...

NATO's approach to Russia combines strong defence and dialogue. In response to Russia’s aggressive actions against Ukraine, NATO has strengthened its defences and suspended practical cooperation with Russia.

However, NATO continues to keep channels for dialogue open. The NATO-Russia Council, an important platform for dialogue, has met seven times since April 2016. The Council has made progress, by addressing both force posture and military exercises, including through reciprocal briefings. This dialogue contributes to the predictability of our relations.

Fact: NATO is a defensive alliance, whose purpose is to protect our member states. Our exercises and military deployments are not directed against Russia – or any other country.

This myth also ignores geography. Russia's land border is just over 20,000 kilometres long. Of that, less than one-sixteenth (1,215 kilometres), is shared with NATO members. Russia has land borders with 14 countries. Only five of them are NATO members.

Outside NATO territory, the Alliance only has a military presence in Kosovo and Iraq. T

THG

Monday, October 25, 2021 8:00 PM (P)

Why Russian and Chinese warships teaming up to circle Japan is a big deal

A joint Chinese and Russian naval exercise, in which a flotilla of 10 warships completed a near circle around Japan's main island, has been touted by the two countries as a means of ensuring stability in a volatile region.

But analysts say the drills are likely to have the opposite effect, potentially reigniting regional tensions and enhancing claims by the Japanese government that it needs to increase military spending to counter Chinese aggression.

China-Russia naval patrol in the western Pacific, saw the vessels sail through the Tsugaru Strait that separates Japan's main island and its northern island of Hokkaido, before heading down the nation's eastern coast and then back toward China through the Osumi Strait off the southern Japanese island of Kyushu.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-russian-and-chinese-warships-
teaming-up-to-circle-japan-is-a-big-deal/ar-AAPVre7?ocid=msedgntp

So comrade signym, why is Russia trying to provoke a war with Japan?

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THG

Monday, October 25, 2021 9:49 PM (P)

T

PUTIN HAS A WEAPON

THG

Monday, October 25, 2021 11:10 PM (P)

T

The US and Australia have agreed on a rotational deployment of US aircraft in Australia, and the sustainment and maintenance programs that go with it - this involves both countries leaning on allied partners and defence primes, like Lockheed Martin.

THG

Wednesday, October 27, 2021 6:10 PM (P)

Russian Hackers Used Home Networks to Evade Detection

(Bloomberg) -- When an elite team of Russian government hackers attempted to break into hundreds of intelligence targets this year, they used a clever tool to cover their tracks: the mobile and home computer networks of unsuspecting Americans, according to several cybersecurity experts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/russian-hackers-used-home-networ
ks-to-evade-detection/ar-AAPYJll?ocid=msedgntp

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THG

Tuesday, November 9, 2021 2:08 AM (P)

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AG Garland Announces Charges Against Ukrainian Man For Ransomware Attacks

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:36 PM (P)

Russia ... Ukraine ... Putin ... it's all the same in your head I guess.

1KIKI

Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:38 PM (P)

Has anyone noticed? Now that Trump is no longer president nobody except THUGGER seems to publicly obsess about Russia ... or Putin.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:39 PM (P)

I see THUGR is spamming the board, again.

Every now and again, he just bumps a lot of his own pointless threads that nobody cares about anyway.

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THG

Tuesday, November 9, 2021 11:59 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Has anyone noticed? Now that Trump is no longer president nobody except THUGGER seems to publicly obsess about Russia ... or Putin.

This made me laugh. So kiki, maybe you can tell me who nobody represents and how many nobody's there are?

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1KIKI

Wednesday, November 10, 2021 1:15 AM (P)

Doody, you've posted so much provable bullshite so often (like for example that Tyler Durdan is three people) it's a wonder you can look in the mirror and not see the liar you claim other people to be.

THG

Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:47 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Doody, you've posted so much provable bullshite so often (like for example that Tyler Durdan is three people) it's a wonder you can look in the mirror and not see the liar you claim other people to be.

Russia tested a missile on an old satellite Monday, creating a debris field in space.

A Russian anti-satellite missile test created "at least" 1,500 large space objects, the US said, worsening the potentially deadly problem of orbiting space junk.

International Space Station (ISS) astronauts and cosmonauts had to shelter in spacecrafts on Monday as the station moved out of the path of an object Insider previously reported.

NASA later confirmed the object came from the satellite breakup caused by the Russian strike.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/a-russian-missile-strike-put
-1-500-pieces-of-large-space-junk-in-orbit-even-debris-as-big-as-a-baseball-could-kill-astronauts/ar-AAQLGjc?ocid=msedgntp

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SECOND

Tuesday, November 16, 2021 9:05 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

A Russian anti-satellite missile test created "at least" 1,500 large space objects, the US said, worsening the potentially deadly problem of orbiting space junk.

The U.S. State Department said Monday afternoon that Russia’s anti-satellite missile test created more than 1,500 pieces of trackable orbital debris and hundreds of thousands of smaller pieces.

“It was dangerous. It was reckless. It was irresponsible."

Putin never saw the movie Gravity (2013) so why not blast hundreds of thousands of shrapnel pieces into space?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Tuesday, November 16, 2021 9:16 PM (P)

Space junk is certainly a problem.

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THG

Thursday, November 18, 2021 10:42 PM (P)

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THG

Sunday, November 21, 2021 12:58 AM (P)

U.S. officials warn of possible Russian military incursion into Ukraine

U.S. intelligence officials are warning European allies of a potential Russian military incursion into Ukraine, with the likelihood of one increasing as the weather gets colder. An incursion is weather-dependent, but could happen in a matter of weeks, barring intervention from the West, U.S. officials briefed on the matter told CBS News.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-officials-warn-of-possible-ru
ssian-military-incursion-into-ukraine/ar-AAQWxZu?ocid=msedgntp

I hope the Ukraine bitch slaps Putins goons.

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THG

Sunday, November 21, 2021 1:18 AM (P)

Might rising inflation rates motivate Vladimir Putin to launch a new military offensive against Ukraine?

The question bears serious attention. After all, Putin appears increasingly concerned about the impact of inflation on the economy and his popularity. The Russian president has just requested amendments to parliamentary legislation that would boost the minimum wage by 8.6% in 2022. The Russian labor ministry estimates this will cost an additional $410 million. As shown in the TradingEconomics.com chart below, Russia's inflation rate has steadily increased over the year, now approaching 9%. In part driven by a poor harvest, the inflation rate for food is approaching 11%. This hurts Russian families and undermines Putin's central political narrative: namely, that he can provide both sustained order and sustained improvements to living standards.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/will-inflation-drive-vladimir-put
in-s-escalation-in-ukraine/ar-AAQUQUV?ocid=msedgntp

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THG

Thursday, November 25, 2021 10:09 PM (P)

CIA director is said to have warned Russia of 'consequences' if it's found to be behind the 'Havana Syndrome' illnesses hurting US personnel around the world

The CIA director warned Russia of "consequences" if the country turns out to be behind the "Havana Syndrome" illnesses afflicting American personnel around the world, The Washington Post reported, citing US officials.

Bill Burns gave the warning confidentially to the heads of Russia's security and intelligence agencies while he was in Moscow earlier this month, The Post reported, citing the unnamed officials.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cia-director-is-said-to-have-warn
ed-russia-of-consequences-if-it-s-found-to-be-behind-the-havana-syndrome-illnesses-hurting-us-personnel-around-the-world/ar-AAR7ew3?ocid=msedgntp

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, November 25, 2021 11:03 PM (P)

The Havana Syndrome is about is real as the Mandela Effect.

Your Leftist Legacy Media is going straight into Alex Jones territory now that they've silenced him, huh?

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1KIKI

Friday, November 26, 2021 2:49 AM (P)

Quote:
CIA director is said to have warned Russia of 'consequences' if it's found to be behind the 'Havana Syndrome' illnesses hurting US personnel around the world

You're posting RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! hysteria because of Havana which isn't located in Cuba but 'around the world'? What scrambled bullshit propaganda have you swallowed now, THUGGER?

I literally laughed out loud.

THG

Friday, November 26, 2021 4:59 PM (P)

My question is comrades kiki and sig; what right does Russia have to continue to fuck with Ukraine? Why is Putin attempting a coup there? And when will they return Crimea?

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China And Russia Condemn U.S. Military Action Near Borders

SIGNYM

Saturday, November 27, 2021 9:31 AM (P)

Well written, funny, and a different POV.

Quote:

Who Wants Some Ukraine?

by Dmitry Orlov, posted with permission of the author

On Tuesday, 23 November, Russia’s most senior military general, Valery Gerasimov, had a “deconfliction” phone conference with US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, in which the two discussed “pressing issues of international security.” Actual details of what they discussed are not available; what is available is Western media speculation, which in recent days has included false reports of Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border and supposedly getting ready to invade. What Western media has studiously ignored is an actual massing of Ukrainian troops on the borders of the Donbass region—the industrialized temporarily Ukrainian region that has been de facto independent since the Kiev putsch of 2014.

Following that putsch, and the refusal of the Donbass (along with Crimea) to recognize the new US State Department-installed Ukrainian government, the Ukrainians made attempt to recapture the Donbass by force. This attempt failed, and Kiev managed to avoid all-out defeat by signing the Minsk agreements of February 2015, but has clearly had no intention of ever fulfilling them. Instead, ever since then, Ukrainian forces have been shelling the no man’s land between Ukrainian-held territory (which is mostly open prairie) and Donbass (which is urbanized and thickly settled), killing small numbers of civilians and local militia members and causing considerable property damage. Although Western press has continuously reported on “Russian forces” in the Donbass, they are yet to present any evidence of it. And although Western press likes to describe the Donbass using the hackneyed epithet “war-torn” it is actually more prosperous and stable than the rest of the Ukraine, integrated into the Russian economy and essentially functioning as a Russian region.

Turning down Western media noise, a Russian military effort to capture the Donbass, never mind the rest of the Ukraine, is exceedingly unlikely. Russia already has everything it wants. Unlike Crimea which in its 2014 referendum produced a 97% vote for integration of the region into the Russian Federation with an 83% voter turnout, in a similar referendum in the Donbass (held against Moscow’s wishes) only 27.5% of the 74.87% who turned out voted in favor of joining the Russian Federation. Based on this result, Moscow chose to soft-pedal the Donbass situation, providing humanitarian aid and diplomatic support, granting Russian citizenship to those who want it and gradually integrating the region socially and economically. In other Ukrainian regions, were similar referendums to be held there, the level of support for joining Russia would in all likelihood have been even lower, and now, seven years later, would be lower still. From this, a conclusion can be drawn: other than Crimea (which was part of an independent Ukraine for just 23 years), none of the Ukraine was or is a candidate for inclusion within the Russian Federation. The Russians living there will receive some amount of Russian support and are, of course, welcome to move to Russia, but that is really it.

Having ruled out that which is exceedingly unlikely, let us turn to that which is quite likely; and that is a provocation in the Donbass staged by the authorities in Kiev and by their State Department, Pentagon and CIA handlers, designed to deflect the blame from the truly disastrous economic situation that is unfolding there in the hopes of being able to maintain political control of the situation. In blundering into the Ukraine and converting it into a sort of anti-Russian bulwark, the US gained a brazenly corrupt and unruly dependency. Unable to stop its inexorable slide into failed-statedom and political and social disintegration, the US is faced with the prospect of another Afghanistan-style rout, with desperate left-behinds running after US transport planes hastily taking off from Kiev’s Borispol Airport, after which point even the mental laggards who run t

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, November 27, 2021 10:03 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
My question is comrades kiki and sig; what right does Russia have to continue to fuck with Ukraine? Why is Putin attempting a coup there? And when will they return Crimea?

Why do you give a single fuck about Ukraine?

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THG

Sunday, November 28, 2021 1:10 AM (P)

You didn't answer the question signym. I'm not suprised because you can't.

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1KIKI

Sunday, November 28, 2021 1:32 AM (P)

What gives the US the right to fuck with Ukraine?

We fomented a color revolution, supported a coup against a popularly and democratically elected president - 2 months before the next scheduled election - picked their government and especially their cabinet members (Nuland's 'fuck the EU' was about the EU thinking Ukrainians maybe had the right to elect their own government), derailed a corruption invest*I*gation by having Biden* fire the chief prosecutor, decided to try and embargo Russia from the Black Sea by swarming it with the US Navy ... what haven't we done to mess with Ukraine?

The US had no right to mess with Ukraine, according to YOUR rules. So, why are we?

SIGNYM

Sunday, November 28, 2021 3:29 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG

You didn't answer the question signym. I'm not suprised because you can't.

T

I haven't been online, and

I don't answer fabricated questions posted by ignor-anuses.

Capisce?

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, November 28, 2021 4:22 AM (P)

Why don't you worry about the Communists in your own country like Second, Ted?

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THG

Sunday, November 28, 2021 8:29 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What gives the US the right to fuck with Ukraine?

We fomented a color revolution, supported a coup against a popularly and democratically elected president - 2 months before the next scheduled election - picked their government and especially their cabinet members (Nuland's 'fuck the EU' was about the EU thinking Ukrainians maybe had the right to elect their own government), derailed a corruption invest*I*gation by having Biden* fire the chief prosecutor, decided to try and embargo Russia from the Black Sea by swarming it with the US Navy ... what haven't we done to mess with Ukraine?

The US had no right to mess with Ukraine, according to YOUR rules. So, why are we?

27 more Russian diplomats expelled from US, ambassador says

Over two dozen more Russian diplomats have been dismissed from the United States, the Russian ambassador to the U.S. said in an interview released on Saturday, Reuters reported.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/27-more-russian-diplomats-expelle
d-from-us-ambassador-says/ar-AARdY2F?ocid=msedgntp

Poor Polish Russian Collaborator Kiki. She is still trying to justify Russia’s attack against one of its neighbors. They did the same to Georgia. And when they invade they never leave.

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THG

Saturday, December 4, 2021 4:37 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What gives the US the right to fuck with Ukraine?

We fomented a color revolution, supported a coup against a popularly and democratically elected president - 2 months before the next scheduled election - picked their government and especially their cabinet members (Nuland's 'fuck the EU' was about the EU thinking Ukrainians maybe had the right to elect their own government), derailed a corruption invest*I*gation by having Biden* fire the chief prosecutor, decided to try and embargo Russia from the Black Sea by swarming it with the US Navy ... what haven't we done to mess with Ukraine?

The US had no right to mess with Ukraine, according to YOUR rules. So, why are we?

Not we, they kiki they staged a coup against a corrupt government. And Russia is not spelled Ukraine.

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Russia planning massive military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops, U.S. intelligence warns

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-planning-massive-military-
offensive-against-ukraine-involving-175-000-troops-u-s-intelligence-warns/ar-AARrLIF?ocid=msedgntp

THG

Friday, December 10, 2021 1:42 AM (P)

Russian gas is a climate and security disaster

The U.S. and EU need to develop more strategic and long-term plans to limit the geopolitical and climate nightmare that is Russian gas. The EU, as the world's largest gas importer, and the U.S., as a growing exporter of gas, are in position to reduce reliance on Russian gas and bring about deep emissions reductions if they pursue complementary gas regulations and other policies, together. A new report from the Progressive Policy Institute recommends specific policies to help the EU and U.S. limit the security and climate costs of Russian gas, including:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russian-gas-is-a-climate-and-s
ecurity-disaster/ar-AAREr5H?ocid=msedgntp

Tick tock

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1KIKI

Friday, December 10, 2021 2:31 AM (P)

The US can only export LNG to places with no direct pipeline connection. LNG is at least 3X the cost of pipeline gas. Plus shipment is limited by the number of LNG vessels and their turnaround time. So Europe and Britain have calculations to make. What can they afford? US LNG? Or Russian pipeline nat gas. What can supply them the volume they need? US LNG? Or Russian pipeline nat gas.

Meanwhile, Russia has no need to pipe any nat gas westward. If it decides to, it can shift all its export eastward, to China, which is desperate for fuel.

And should Russia decide to shut off the taps to its problematic westward customers, it would leave the EU and Britain in a world of hurt.

The problem is the EU and Britain have invested heavily in 'renewables' like wind and solar. But those are fickle sources, as Britain discovered when no wind blew for all of 2020. So when it then had to tap its nat gas for energy, the nat gas stores got severely depleted. That led to Britain needing to purchase nat gas. Also, one must capture renewable energy as its made, to span the gap between production and use, leading to the need for HUGE batteries. And you simply can't run large industries like steel mills or refineries on batteries. But if you tried, the battery footprint would be at least as large as the production facility.

Fossil fuel is here to stay, until we get a handle on another high-density reliable energy source.

Russia can't be blamed because Europe and Britain put themselves in an energy dearth. The only ones responsible for that are Europe and Britain.

THG

Saturday, December 11, 2021 12:33 AM (P)

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THG

Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:29 PM (P)

War-weariness in Russia as military tension with Ukraine rises

Russia's troop buildup on the Ukrainian border is not just a message to Kyiv and its NATO partners. The show of force is also aimed at a domestic audience. But at home, that message may be falling on deaf ears.Moscow's Kyivsky metro station is decorated with elaborate murals showing how Ukrainians joined the Soviet Union. It is a celebration of unity. But today, Moscow and Kyiv feel more divided than ever.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/war-weariness-in-russia-as-milita
ry-tension-with-ukraine-rises/ar-AARI6yL?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

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THG

Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:57 PM (P)

NATO chief rejects Russian demand to deny Ukraine entry

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-chief-rejects-russian-demand
-to-deny-ukraine-entry/ar-AARHbKZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Way to go...

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, December 11, 2021 10:13 PM (P)

Ted cares way too much about Ukraine and not enough about America.

I haven't heard you mention the terrorist attack via SUV in Wisconsin once, Ted.

Why is that?

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THG

Sunday, December 12, 2021 12:03 AM (P)

(Bloomberg) -- Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen used a phone call with Germany’s new finance minister on Friday to discuss the potential for steps that could “impose severe costs on Russia’s economy” should the increasing tensions between Ukraine and Russia worsen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/yellen-discusses-severe-costs-for
-russia-with-german-minister/ar-AARHliH?ocid=msedgntp

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 12, 2021 12:35 AM (P)

Yep. Vague accusations that some evil dooood somewhere cough ... bin Laden Ghaddafi Assad et al cough ... is doing something or other which DEMANDS! the US respond somewhere that isn't the US or in the US's defense.

THUGGER is incapable of learning.

THG

Sunday, December 12, 2021 1:00 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Yep. Vague accusations that some evil dooood somewhere cough ... bin Laden Ghaddafi Assad et al cough ... is doing something or other which DEMANDS! the US respond somewhere that isn't the US or in the US's defense.

THUGGER is incapable of learning.

Polish Russian Collaborator Kiki would have us believe that if we ignore what is going on with the rest of the world we’ll be trouble free. How funny or should I say simple minded is that? And she says I’ll never learn.

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1KIKI

Sunday, December 12, 2021 2:32 AM (P)

I have zero interest in Putin or Russia.

THUGGER otoh posts so much about Putin he must be madly in love.

THG

Sunday, December 12, 2021 9:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I have zero interest in Putin or Russia.

THUGGER otoh posts so much about Putin he must be madly in love.

Putin rues Soviet collapse as demise of 'historical Russia'

MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin has lamented the collapse of the Soviet Union three decades ago as the demise of what he called "historical Russia" and said the economic crisis that followed was so bad he was forced to moonlight as a taxi driver.

Putin's comments, released by state TV on Sunday, are likely to further fuel speculation about his foreign policy intentions among his critics, who accuse him of planning to recreate the Soviet Union and of contemplating an attack on Ukraine, a notion the Kremlin has dismissed as fear-mongering.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-rues-soviet-collapse-as-dem
ise-of-historical-russia/ar-AARJyJp?ocid=msedgntp

Then you'll love this. And based on your logic you must cream yourself everytime you think of Biden. Good to know, but personally I detest Putin.

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THG

Sunday, December 12, 2021 11:46 PM (P)

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Russia threatens invasion of Ukraine

THG

Monday, December 13, 2021 10:45 PM (P)

Have Greens and European bureaucrats outsmarted Putin?

It looked as if Putin had won his battle for Nord Stream 2, the undersea gas pipeline that would replace gas transit through Ukraine and give Russia a stranglehold over Europe's gas market.

The game seemed over when President Joe Biden waived sanctions on Nord Stream 2 - supposedly to repair relations with a Germany, whose Chancellor, Angela Merkel, supported the deal. With U.S. sanctions swept aside, the final stretch of pipe was set to be laid by year's end, and only the approval of the German Network Agency (and review by the European Commission) was required before Nord Stream 2 could go into operation.

Now the bombshell: In her Sunday appearances on national TV, Baerbock declared that Nord Stream 2 could not become operational because, according to coalition agreements, the undersea pipeline was not consistent with European energy law. Hence, per Baerbock, Nord Stream 2 cannot be approved because it does not meet the decoupling, transparency, and capacity-sharing required by the EU's Gas Directive.

The new German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, of the Social Democrats, meanwhile warned that there would be "consequences" if national borders were breached, a remark clearly directed at Russian troops amassing on the border with Ukraine and threatening to take additional Ukrainian territory.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/have-greens-and-european-bureaucr
ats-outsmarted-putin/ar-AARLJP8?ocid=msedgntp

Do you find this funny? I do, I find this funny. Time for Putie to take his troops and go home.

tick tock

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THG

Monday, December 13, 2021 11:00 PM (P)

Poor Putie. His house of cards is crumbling down.

T

The West can 'cripple' Russia's economy if it imposes sanctions over Ukraine: Expert

THG

Monday, December 13, 2021 11:27 PM (P)

What does Putin want to annex next? 2:40 into the video.

T

SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:13 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Poor Putie. His house of cards is crumbling down.
The West can 'cripple' Russia's economy if it imposes sanctions over Ukraine: Expert

Who is this idiot? If Russia shuts off gas to Europe, Europe will crumble.

Russia holds all the cards. It has a strong military advantage. And unlike the west, it has hardened its economy to be food and energy-secure, hardened its financial system to be independent from the west, does not depend on western loans, is running a budget surplus, and has a robust and equitable trade relationship with China.

The USA depends on continuous loans from The Fed and continuous emissions of printed money to pay for imports, and continuous demand for USA bonds in order to prop up its ever-expanding debt. But the region that will really suffer is Europe. If the EU thinks it will be standing upright after a serious tiff with Russia, they're fantasists.

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 14, 2021 12:15 AM (P)

You might want to check in with reality once in a while, THUGR.

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1KIKI

Tuesday, December 14, 2021 1:45 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Poor Putie. His house of cards is crumbling down.
The West can 'cripple' Russia's economy if it imposes sanctions over Ukraine: Expert

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Who is this idiot? If Russia shuts off gas to Europe, Europe will crumble.

Russia holds all the cards. It has a strong military advantage. And unlike the west, it has hardened its economy to be food and energy-secure, hardened its financial system to be independent from the west, does not depend on western loans, is running a budget surplus, and has a robust and equitable trade relationship with China.

The USA depends on continuous loans from The Fed and continuous emissions of printed money to pay for imports, and continuous demand for USA bonds in order to prop up its ever-expanding debt. But the region that will really suffer is Europe. If the EU thinks it will be standing upright after a serious tiff with Russia, they're fantasists.

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IF anyone in the (Biden* administration)(Deep State) has a clue about Russia's advantages, that may be why they're creating a narrative foam in the m$m about the about Russia's non-existent 'aggression' in Ukraine ... Belarus ... Poland ... wherever ... to gin up an excuse to take action NOW. Because Russia's advantages are only going to grow over time compared to the US and Europe. And the (Biden* administration)(Deep State) idiots think a nuclear confrontation is winnable.

1KIKI

Tuesday, December 14, 2021 3:08 AM (P)

Here is the formal text of the statement in the video above.

Quote:
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Foreign Ministry statement on dialogue with the United States and other Western countries regarding security guarantees

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We note US President Joseph Biden’s readiness expressed at the December 7, 2021 talks with President Vladimir Putin to establish a serious dialogue on issues related to ensuring the security of the Russian Federation. Such a dialogue is urgently needed today when the relations between Russia and the collective West continue to decay and have approached a critical line. At the same time, numerous loose interpretations of our position have emerged in recent days. In this connection we feel it is necessary to once again clarify the following.

Escalating a confrontation with our country is absolutely unacceptable. As a pretext, the West is using the situation in Ukraine, where it embarked on encouraging Russophobia and justifying the actions of the Kiev regime to undermine the Minsk agreements and prepare for a military scenario in Donbass.

Instead of reigning in their Ukrainian protégés, NATO countries are pushing Kiev towards aggressive steps. There can be no alternative interpretation of the increasing number of unplanned exercises by the United States and its allies in the Black Sea. NATO members’ aircraft, including strategic bombers, regularly make provocative flights and dangerous manoeuvres in close proximity to Russia’s borders. The militarisation of Ukraine’s territory and pumping it with weapons are ongoing.

The course has been chosen of drawing Ukraine into NATO, which is fraught with the deployment of strike missile systems there with a minimal flight time to Central Russia, and other destabilising weapons. Such irresponsible behaviour creates grave military risks for all parties involved, up to and including a large-scale conflict in Europe.

At the same time, statements are made that the issue of Ukraine’s hypothetical NATO membership concerns exclusively Kiev and the Alliance, and that nobody should interfere in this process. Let us recall, however, that NATO countries, apart from the Washington Treaty, have obligations regarding the indivisible security in the Euro-Atlantic and the entire OSCE space. This principle was initially proclaimed in the Helsinki Final Act and was later reaffirmed in the Charter of Paris for a New Europe of 1990, which states: “Security is indivisible and the security of every participating State is inseparably linked to that of all the others”, whereas in 1999, The Charter for European Security was adopted at the OSCE Istanbul summit, which stressed that the participating States “will not strengthen their security at the expense of the security of other States.”

All these documents were signed by the leaders of the OSCE member-states, including all NATO countries. However, in violation of the principle of indivisible security – as well as in violation of the promises given to the Soviet leaders – NATO has been persistently moving eastwards all these years while neglecting Moscow’s concerns. Furthermore, each new member added to NATO’s frenzied anti-Russia charge.

We have been saying for a long time that such developments are inadmissible. Over the past decades we have offered a number of times to render the principle of comprehensive and indivisible security in the Euro-Atlantic a legally binding status since the West is obviously inclined to disregard its political obligations. However, we were invariably refused.

In this connection, as Pre

THG

Tuesday, December 14, 2021 11:12 PM (P)

Putin discusses Ukraine tensions with Macron, Niinistö,

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday spoke on the phone with his French and Finnish counterparts and reiterated his demand for guarantees precluding NATO from expanding to Ukraine or deploying weapons there.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-discusses-ukraine-tensions-
with-macron-niinist%C3%B6/ar-AARNWO7?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Poor Putie. He's trying anywhere he can to find a way to back down gracefully. Oops...

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1KIKI

Tuesday, December 14, 2021 11:56 PM (P)

Putin never wanted Ukraine. It's a garbage dump full of westerners and oligarch rats gnawing whatever flesh is left.

Oh, btw - Chernobyl? That's Ukraine, not Russia, fyi. Another oozing festering Ukrainian rot.

SECOND

Friday, December 17, 2021 11:11 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Putin never wanted Ukraine. It's a garbage dump full of westerners and oligarch rats gnawing whatever flesh is left.

Oh, btw - Chernobyl? That's Ukraine, not Russia, fyi. Another oozing festering Ukrainian rot.

FYI, Putin has stuck his nose into crappy little Belarus for the same reason as he did Ukraine -- to save himself from overthrow.

Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko seemed to have no plan. But his neighbors did. On August 18, 2020, a plane belonging to the FSB, the Russian security services, flew from Moscow to Minsk. Soon after that, Lukashenko’s tactics underwent a dramatic change. Stephen Biegun, who was the U.S. deputy secretary of state at the time, describes the change as a shift to “more sophisticated, more controlled ways to repress the population.” Belarus became a textbook example of what the journalist William J. Dobson has called “the dictator’s learning curve”: Techniques that had been used successfully in the past to repress crowds in Russia were seamlessly transferred to Belarus, along with personnel who understood how to deploy them. Russian television journalists arrived to replace the Belarusian journalists who had gone on strike, and immediately stepped up the campaign to portray the demonstrations as the work of Americans and other foreign “enemies.” Russian police appear to have supplemented their Belarusian colleagues, or at least given them advice, and a policy of selective arrests began. As Vladimir Putin figured out a long time ago, mass arrests are unnecessary if you can jail, torture, or possibly murder just a few key people. The rest will be frightened into staying home. Eventually they will become apathetic, because they believe nothing can change.

The Lukashenko rescue package, reminiscent of the one Putin had designed for Bashar al-Assad in Syria six years earlier, contained economic elements too. Russian companies offered markets for Belarusian products that had been banned by the democratic West—for example, smuggling Belarusian cigarettes into the European Union. Some of this was possible because the two countries share a language. (Though roughly a third to half of the country speaks Belarusian, most public business in Belarus is conducted in Russian.) But this close cooperation was also possible because Lukashenko and Putin, though they famously dislike each other, share a common way of seeing the world. Both believe that their personal survival is more important than the well-being of their people. Both believe that a change of regime would result in their death, imprisonment, or exile.

Both also learned lessons from the Arab Spring, as well as from the more distant memory of 1989, when Communist dictatorships fell like dominoes: Democratic revolutions are contagious. If you can stamp them out in one country, you might prevent them from starting in others. The anti-corruption, prodemocracy demonstrations of 2014 in Ukraine, which resulted in the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych’s government, reinforced this fear of democratic contagion. Putin was enraged by those protests, not least because of the precedent they set. After all, if Ukrainians could get rid of their corrupt dictator, why wouldn’t Russians want to do the same?

Lukashenko gladly accepted Russian help, turned against his people, and transformed himself from an autocratic, patriarchal grandfather—a kind of national collective-farm boss—into a tyrant who revels in cruelty. Reassured by Putin’s support, he began breaking new ground. Not just selective arrests—a year later, human-rights activists say that more than 800 political prisoners remain in jail—but torture. Not just torture but rape. Not just torture and rape but kidnapping and, quite possibly, murder.

Lukashenko’s sneering defiance of the rule of law—he issues stony-faced denials of the existence of political repression in his country—and of anything resembling decency spread beyond his borders. In May 2021, Belarusian air traffic control forced an

1KIKI

Saturday, December 18, 2021 12:30 AM (P)

Oh. You mean the US isn't free to create 'fuck the EU' coups wherever they want anymore?

Oh. Dear.

Now we know where you stand on 'democracy'.

Oh, btw, we already know you hate the US.

SECOND

Saturday, December 18, 2021 1:08 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Oh. You mean the US isn't free to create 'fuck the EU' coups wherever they want anymore?

Oh. Dear.

Now we know where you stand on 'democracy'.

Oh, btw, we already know you hate the US.

Every line you wrote a Russian troll has already written a thousand times before, here and elsewhere. There is much overlap, perhaps 100%, between you, a self-claimed "California" "housewife" who is "not a Republican", and a straight forward Moscovian earning a small paycheck repeating Putin talking points about America and Western Democracies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

1KIKI

Saturday, December 18, 2021 1:57 AM (P)

Ah ... yes. Your entirely empty arsenal of facts and thinking is on full display when you have nothing left but 'Russian Troll™'.

1KIKI

Saturday, December 18, 2021 1:57 AM (P)

Since you can't refute it, I guess my post still stands:

Oh. You mean the US isn't free to create 'fuck the EU' coups wherever they want anymore?

Oh. Dear.

Now we know where you stand on 'democracy'.

Oh, btw, we already know you hate the US.

SIGNYM

Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:41 AM (P)

SECONDRATE, you rightly aplogized to me for libeling me as a Russian Troll, now you should apologize to KIKI.

But you can't stop lying, can you? It's in your nature. That's why your thoughts twist and turn and bite themselves. You've got a bag of snakes for a brain bc you're untethered from honesty. And reality.

And you think "Trumptards" are crazy!

Hahaha!

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SIGNYM

Saturday, December 18, 2021 3:03 AM (P)

Quote:
1KIKI:

Putin never wanted Ukraine. It's a garbage dump full of westerners and oligarch rats gnawing whatever flesh is left.

Oh, btw - Chernobyl? That's Ukraine, not Russia, fyi. Another oozing festering Ukrainian rot.

SECONDRATE: FYI, Putin has stuck his nose into crappy little Belarus for the same reason as he did Ukraine -- to save himself from overthrow.

By who? Not by Russians! "The opposition" has so little support they can't even get a seat in the Russian Parliament (Duma) and where ppl disagree with Putin they think he's too soft on the West!

The West had clearly attempted to orchestrate yet another "regime change" coup in Belarus, which failed. All that did was to drive Lukashenko into Russia's arms.

Interesting fact: Unlike Russia, Belarus never privatized its production, so it was never raped by oligarchs and western hedge fund managers like Bill Browder. On top of that, since Russia sold oil to Belarus at cutrate prices, Belarus got a good income selling refined oil to the EU at market rates. The living standard in Belarus is quite high, certainly much better than Ukraine (the West's "success story")

Quote:
The Human Development Index (HDI) ranks nations based on an aggregation of quality of life statistics, including life expectancy, per capita income and education. Based on the quality of these indicators, a country is awarded a score from 0-1. Belarus’ HDI score stands at 0.80, which places the country in 53rd place worldwide. Despite their lack of political freedom, Belarussians have a standard of living well above the world average.

https://borgenproject.org/top-10-facts-about-living-conditions-in-bela
rus/

Anyway, the West continues to try and make trouble on Russia's border, taking provocative actions in Ukraine, the Black Sea, Georgia, Moldova, and elsewhere, and Jens Stoltenberg, the know-nothing NATO foreign scy, newly-appointed German foreign scy Annalena Baerbock, and Boris Johnson are clearly on a campaign of provocation. I think they're hoping to come so close to Russia's "red lines" as to force a response, by which the West can then apply full weight of sanctions and other forms of hybrid warfare.

One thing is for sure: Russia is not about to "invade Ukraine" absent military action by Kiev first. Russia will probably respond asymmetrically, by deploying medium-range nuclear missiles in Belarus. And whatever Russia does will be coordinated with China.

Question: If Russia is kicked out of SWIFT, how will the EU pay for its natgas? These bureaucrats in NATO, the EU, and UK are so fucking stupid. I think they're trying to build a moat between "the East" and "the West", but they're only hurting themselves.

But then, that may be why all of this Covid-authoritarianism: To keep "their people" under thumb while they burn their economies and financial system down and try to gin up a war.

I have no idea what the EU/UK are aiming at, since the only winner in a conflict between Russia and the West would be the USA. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

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SIGNYM

Sunday, December 19, 2021 2:47 AM (P)

KIKI posted this in April 2019. It's a good summary of policy in 2019, under Trump, and we can see it in hyperdrive today, under Biden*

A good indicator that foreign policy isn't made by Presidents but by "The Interagency".

Quote:
My #1 priority is avoiding nuclear war with Russia. At this point either country can single-handedly destroy the entire planet at least a few times over. That's a good reason to not get into nuclear conflict, because nobody wins.
It's #1 because if we can't avoid nuclear war in the immediate future, then nothing else matters.

There are 4 kinds of pro-nuclear-war agendas I've noticed.
· One is to provoke Russia with every non-nuclear scenario that can be implemented, including setting up large NATO forces directly on the Russian border, sending nuclear-capable bombers to Europe, pre-deploying nuclear weapons in Europe, threatening or attacking Russia's allies (Syria, Venezuela, Iran), and instituting sanctions for extremely specious reasons - with the (apparent) assumption Russia won't retaliate either with nuclear weapons, or escalate into nuclear war. Most democrats and most republicans are behind this because they've both bought into the deep state regime.
· The second is by dropping out of nuclear treaties.
· The third is through the democratic-supported policy of US 'limited' nuclear first-strikes or 'limited' use of nuclear weapons in proxy wars. That might escalate directly into nuclear war. The other scenario that those brilliant minds haven't seemed to consider is that the US could be subjected to a 'limited' nuclear counterattack that we will have to endure in order to avoid all-out nuclear war.
· The fourth is by trying to have 'the best, fantastic, you would not imagine how unbelievable' nuclear arsenal; which as a side effect has already started another cold war, including the militarization of space.

When it comes to Venezuela, Russia (an ally) has already sent troops. In addition China (also an ally) has also just sent troops. Hopefully the US will think twice before militarily engaging two powerful countries.

As agents of the deep state, the msm has already started jonesing for confrontation, in the person of Fareed Zakaria, in a double-barreled CNN/ WaPo propaganda push. They're both summarized here with appropriate links to originals: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-02/cnn-wapo-demand-trump-furthe
r-escalate-tensions-russia

Given how gullible Americans are (WMDs, anyone?) and how steadfastly people refuse to learn the fact that the government lies all the time, I'll be interested to hear the candidates' takes on this.

- http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63022

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SIGNYM

Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:36 AM (P)

Russia Formally Quits 'Open Skies' Treaty, Saying There's No Point Without US

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-formally-quits-open-skie
s-treaty-saying-theres-no-point-without-us

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THG

Sunday, December 19, 2021 7:56 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Putin never wanted Ukraine. It's a garbage dump full of westerners and oligarch rats gnawing whatever flesh is left.

Oh, btw - Chernobyl? That's Ukraine, not Russia, fyi. Another oozing festering Ukrainian rot.

Oops...

T

Russians Have Suddenly Stopped Buying Putin’s Anti-American Propaganda

MOSCOW—It’s easy to see why President Vladimir Putin might have thought ratcheting up tensions on Ukraine’s border and blaming it all on NATO and the U.S. would rally his faltering support back home, but this time something different is happening.

Most Russians aren’t buying it.

Domestic propaganda levels have reached near-hysteria this year after anti-Putin protests swept the country following the attempted murder and imprisonment of opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

The drumbeat of war against Ukraine is becoming louder by the week and Putin has made ever wilder demands of NATO, which was the primary focus of his talking points in the video conference summit with President Biden earlier this month. He must surely know those demands can never be met.

If you follow the local—state-owned—TV stations in Russia, you are constantly warned that a new war is on the horizon; that Russia will bravely stand up to the West; and that America is the real enemy.

That message is increasingly falling on deaf ears.

A study published this week by the Levada Analytical Center showed that for the first time in years more Russians think positively than negatively about the U.S.—by 45 percent to 42 percent.

When Levada asked the same question in May, only 31 percent said the U.S. was “good” vs. 54 percent “bad.”

In those intervening months, Moscow has accused Washington of “fueling tension” over Ukraine, gas pipelines, Navalny, and hacking. Tit-for-tat diplomatic spats have led to the U.S. embassy cutting 75 percent of staff in Moscow and no longer processing visas, meaning Russians wanting U.S. travel visas and green cards now have to apply in Warsaw. An agreement is in the works to fix that particular stand-off, but it shows the real world impact of diplomatic wrangling on ordinary people.

“Politicians and ordinary people often have different agendas,” said Susanna Emirali, a young advertising producer. “Most of my friends understand that ordinary Americans are cool.”

Emirali is typical of the Russians who are now rejecting state propaganda. She says she avoids watching political talk shows on television and prefers to read her news on independent outlets online. She believes the United States has nothing to do with Russia’s biggest problems and hopes the conflict between Moscow and Washington will soon end.

While Moscow and Washington are at loggerheads over “red lines” and security guarantees, ordinary Russians are growing tired of the aggressive anti-Western propaganda thrown at them from their TV sets every night. This flies in the face of years of assumptions that Putin can turn up the dial on anti-Americanism feeling among Russians at will.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-have-suddenly-stopped-bu
ying-putin-s-anti-american-propaganda/ar-AARXEZI?ocid=msedgntp

THG

Monday, December 20, 2021 9:15 PM (P)

Russia on Monday expelled two German diplomats in response to Berlin ordering two Russian diplomats to leave over a German court's ruling that Moscow had ordered the 2019 assassination of an ex-Chechen commander in a Berlin Park.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-on-monday-expelled-two-ger
man-diplomats-in-response-to-berlin-ordering-two-russian-diplomats-to-leave-over-a-german-court-s-ruling-that-moscow-had-ordered-the-2019-assassination-of-an-ex-chechen-commander-in-a-berlin-park/ar-AARZFzh?ocid=msedgntp

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THG

Monday, December 20, 2021 10:05 PM (P)

Russia seeks urgent US response on security demands

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-seeks-urgent-us-response-o
n-security-demands/ar-AARYYkS?ocid=msedgntp

Too funny. How many times does he have to hear fuck you no?

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 21, 2021 9:04 AM (P)

Russia demands USA, NATO, roll back to 1997 configuration.

This is a detailed description -including a direct reading of the Russian provisions/ demands- of two documents provided to the USA via State Department representative.

You should give it a listen if you want to know what the Russians are REALLY proposing.

On the face of it, the documents are unacceptable to NATO and the USA, altho the Russians say they that they're facing a "Cuban missile crisis" in reverse, with nuclear missiles practically on their border, and they want security guarantees.

Mercouris seems to think that Russia is prepared to negotiate over a long timeframe about NATO's eastward march.

I personally think that these proposals are a lot more hostile, and that Russia (and by extension, China) is prepared to force the issue, taking a non-response from the USA as a signal for some action- "you are behaving like a hostile nation, so we will deploy missiles/ mass troops/ shoot down your planes/ sink your ships/ cut of gas supplies" or take whatever military action they feel is necessary to force the issue. China has said they back Russia, and might be prepared to make this a two-front provocation. And with Russia and China taking action,Iran may take the oppty to expands its scope of action in the Mideast.

Just my $0.02

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THG

Tuesday, December 21, 2021 7:58 PM (P)

Russia Is Now Claiming the U.S. Is Preparing a ‘Chemical Weapons’ Attack in Ukraine

After the Kremlin’s ultimatums to NATO appeared to fall flat earlier this week, Moscow ratcheted up the crazy on Tuesday with new claims of U.S. mercenaries supposedly preparing a “chemical weapons” attack and a threat of unspecified “military-technical” action.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-now-claiming-the-u-s-is
-preparing-a-chemical-weapons-attack-in-ukraine/ar-AAS1h5h?ocid=msedgntp

Anything short of an invasion by Putin now and he loses face. He has backed himself into a corner. Can you say desperate?

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THG

Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:04 PM (P)

Tensions with Russia are now spilling into space, complicating International Space Station partnership

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/tensions-with-russia-are-now
-spilling-into-space-complicating-international-space-station-partnership/ar-AAS16qK?ocid=msedgntp

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THG

Tuesday, December 21, 2021 8:11 PM (P)

Russian Businessman Taken by U.S. Accused of Swiping Earnings Reports From Tesla, Others

Swiss authorities in Zurich put Vladislav Klyushin, a Russian businessman widely noted for his Kremlin ties, on a flight bound for the U.S. on Saturday, ending a months-long extradition fight that cast a pall over this summer’s Putin-Biden talks in Geneva.

Swiss reporters first confirmed Klyushin’s extradition Saturday night; the U.S. Justice Department on Monday said the 41-year-old, a top official at Moscow-based IT firm called M-13, would stand trial on charges of insider trading, citing information allegedly “stolen from U.S. computer networks,” netting “tens of millions of dollars in illegal profits.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-businessman-taken-by-u-s-
accused-of-swiping-earnings-reports-from-tesla-others/ar-AAS0hy8?ocid=msedgntp

Russian hackers and those who do business with them should not leave Russia. We'll get you if you do.

tick tock

T

SECOND

Saturday, December 25, 2021 7:26 PM (P)

On Christmas Day 1991, Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev delivered a monumental speech from the Kremlin. Gorbachev announced that after 74 years as one of the world's most powerful nations, the Soviet Union no longer existed, and would break up into 15 separate countries.

"People have short memories," said Vladislav Zubok, a Russian historian who teaches at the London School of Economics. He's also the author of a new book, Collapse: The Fall of the Soviet Union.

"The story of Ukrainian-Russian tensions go all the way back to the rapid and unexpected collapse of the Soviet Union," said Zubok.

The collapse meant thousands of Soviet nuclear weapons were spread across four of the newly formed states, including Russia and Ukraine.

Russia kept its nukes. Ukraine gave up its arsenal in 1994 in exchange for a promise from Russia and others that its borders would not be violated.

It seemed like a win-win. But Zubok says the reality proved much more complicated.

"When empires of big states collapse suddenly, history produces a lot of flotsam and jetsam, a lot of debris that blocks not just good relations, but block even understanding between the countries," he said.

And when there's friction, Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly intervened.

He calls the Soviet collapse the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century." Russian forces seized the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine in 2014, and remain to this day. Putin wrote last summer that Russia and Ukraine are really one country — which they were for long periods over the centuries.

At a Kremlin news conference Thursday, Putin said he wasn't planning an invasion. He said again, as he has many times before, that the real threat comes from NATO expansion into Eastern Europe, and the possibility that Ukraine may someday join the alliance.

"It was the United States that came with its missiles to our home, to the doorstep of our home," Putin said in a reference to NATO. "And you demand from me some guarantees. You should give us guarantees. You! And right away, right now."

NATO now totals 30 members, including 14 European countries that have been added over the past two decades. They include three former Soviet republics, the Baltic nations of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Zubok says he doesn't know what will happen short-term. But as a historian, he sees long-term friction.

A lasting solution, he says, "would require a fundamental change of regime, either in Russia or in Ukraine, and I don't see any preconditions for either development."

Missed opportunities

Former U.S. diplomat Donald Jensen says predictions about Russia are always hard. He served at the embassy in Moscow as the Soviet Union was collapsing, and again in the years afterward.

He believes the U.S. was too focused on trying to build democracy in Russia, while the Russians were actually battling each other over power and money.

"By pursuing the set of policies that were premised on a democratic transformation, we got into big trouble," he said. "I say this with great humility, we misunderstood what happened because of missing things like the money issue."

He cites an example in 1995, when he was riding a tram in Moscow and saw Vladimir Kryuchkov, the former head of the Soviet security service, the KGB, who led a failed coup attempt against Gorbachev in August 1991, four months before the Soviet collapse.

Jensen set up a meeting, and over a bottle of vodka they discussed the final days of the Soviet Union. Jensen said he was struck by how some top Soviet officials seemed less worried about a Soviet breakup than about losing privileged positions that allowed them to make large sums of money.

"We spent a lot of time thinking of you (Kryuchkov) as a hard-line communist ideologue, and it looks to me like the KGB was making money," Jensen told Kryuchkov. "He looked at me, with his big Coke-bottle glass

THG

Saturday, December 25, 2021 8:44 PM (P)

10,000 Russian troops have headed back to their own barracks SECOND. It could be just a feign, we’ll see. Something to remember is Crimea. As long as the Russians are there war is a threat. Ukraine is not going to ever give up its claim. Putin knows this. He also knows if Ukraine joins NATO Ukraine will force Russia out.

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THG

Saturday, December 25, 2021 9:44 PM (P)

Thousands of Russian troops withdrawing from Ukraine border: report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/thousands-of-russian-troops-withd
rawing-from-ukraine-border-report/ar-AAS8ElS?ocid=msedgntp

Putin backs down.

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THG

Saturday, December 25, 2021 9:58 PM (P)

Russia slaps 'foreign agent' label on rights monitor OVD-Info, blocks website

The Russian government has blocked a rights monitor's website to prevent publication of information on rights abuses. Communication watchdog Rozkomnadzor took the action following a court ruling.The Russian state communications regulator Rozkomnadzor blocked the website of Russian rights monitoring group OVD-Info, the organization said Saturday.

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For years, OVD-Info has kept a public log of abuses at anti-Kremlin protests, other instances of political persecutions, and provided legal support to victims. OVD-Info said Saturday its site had been blocked earlier in the week.

A Moscow regional court issued the ruling against OVD-Info, calling on Rozkomnadzor to "limit" access to its website on December 20.

Rozkomnadzor told Russian-state run Interfax OVD-Info was blocked following the court ruling due to "propaganda of terrorism and extremism." The media regulator has also ordered social media companies to shutter its accounts.

Currently in Russia, the website for OVD-Info shows a message that reads access is restricted by the federal law on information, information technologies and data protection.

Let’s see if comrades Signym and Kiki defend Putin against this latest dictatorship type ruling.

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SECOND

Saturday, December 25, 2021 10:21 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Russia slaps 'foreign agent' label on rights monitor OVD-Info, blocks website

OVD-Info translated to English seems harmless, except if you were crooked it would seem dangerous:
https://ovdinfo-org.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x
_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Sunday, December 26, 2021 9:56 PM (P)

Putin to mull options if West refuses guarantees on Ukraine

MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Sunday he would ponder a slew of options if the West fails to meet his push for security guarantees precluding NATO’s expansion to Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-to-mull-options-if-west-ref
uses-guarantees-on-ukraine/ar-AAS9ONW?ocid=msedgntp

Blink...

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SIGNYM

Monday, December 27, 2021 5:43 AM (P)

NATO chief seeks NATO-Russia Council meeting in January
https://news.yahoo.com/nato-chief-seeks-nato-russia-214437602.html

blink

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Monday, December 27, 2021 7:26 PM (P)

Moscow sees threat of new missile crisis as serious

Moscow considers the threat of a new missile crisis as serious, the RIA news agency cited Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying on Monday amid a standoff between Russia and Western powers over Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/moscow-sees-threat-of-new-missile
-crisis-as-serious/ar-AASaOGW?ocid=msedgntp

As long as countries like Russia that are run by rulers exist, world peace is in jeopardy. Putin has ruled Russia since the year 2000. China falls into this same category. NATO is the worlds’ best hope.

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THG

Monday, December 27, 2021 7:57 PM (P)

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s president on Monday said he has decided to veto a media bill that would have forced U.S. company Discovery to give up its controlling share in TVN, a Polish TV network.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/polish-president-vetoes-media-bil
l-that-targeted-us-company/ar-AASaVFA?ocid=msedgntp

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SIGNYM

Monday, December 27, 2021 11:38 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s president on Monday said he has decided to veto a media bill that would have forced U.S. company Discovery to give up its controlling share in TVN, a Polish TV network.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/polish-president-vetoes-media-bil
l-that-targeted-us-company/ar-AASaVFA?ocid=msedgntp

Speaking of low-information posters ...

You DO know that Poland is not Russia, right, THUGR?
It is no longer part of the Warsaw Pact, and hasn't been for decades.

Poland is a member state of the EU (2004)
Poland is a member of NATO (1999)
Poland is a vehemently anti-Russian decades-long part of the "cordon sanitaire" that the USA has been trying to construct for decades.

What does Poland and a USA media company have to do with Russia, and how does this qualify as a current "disaster"? There is no change in Poland's status and there hasn't been for decades.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 28, 2021 2:28 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Moscow sees threat of new missile crisis as serious

Moscow considers the threat of a new missile crisis as serious, the RIA news agency cited Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying on Monday amid a standoff between Russia and Western powers over Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/moscow-sees-threat-of-new-missile
-crisis-as-serious/ar-AASaOGW?ocid=msedgntp

Of course. If we had missiles 100 miles from our border, WE'D consider it a threat, wouldn't we?

US. began to install a missile defense system in Poland
22.06.2021 16:41
https://en.news-front.info/2021/06/22/u-s-began-to-install-a-missile-d
efense-system-in-poland/

The point is that Russia intends to make their problem OUR problem. So...

For example, if missile installations are attempted in Ukraine, I suspect that Russia will destroy them with missiles before they become functional. If Kiev attacks DPR/LDNT, Ukraine's army will be destroyed.

ALL NATO troops, ALL NATO installations, ALL USA "advisors" and troops in the former Warsaw Pact nations are at risk. If war comes... and unless the USA backs down, war is inevitable, I suspect that these will be targeted first. Hypersonic missile and artillery attacks on command structures, airbases, missile installations, concentrations of artillery and tanks, radar bases and so forth. Gas will be shut off. It will be a blitzkrieg. No nation's forces will be safe if they're past a pre-detetmined line.

Furthermore, I think the timing and form of these demands is deliberate. Russia is militarily ascendant. Why should they delay? What would they be waiting for? For the USA to catch up technologically?

Russia is like a skunk: it stamps it's feet and shakes its tail, it warms and backs away, warns and backs away, but at some point it will let loose. Then people will wish they had listened.

Meanwhile, EU and the USA are busy ignoring their immigration issues and are busy distracting themselves with gender and race issues, and making pointless Covid mandates, as if virtue-signalling is going to save them from existential economic and military threat.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 28, 2021 5:02 AM (P)

There are reports that American PMCs in Ukraine have been equipped with bio and chemical weapons, not to use them in an attack but to create a false flag. This wouldn't the first time that USA assets have created chemical weapons false flag attacks (most notably in Syria) so if a "chemical/biowarfare" attack occurs in Ukraine... well, I guess you heard it here first.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:05 AM (P)

US flies reconnaissance aircraft over eastern Ukraine

The US Air Force flew a reconnaissance mission this week over eastern Ukraine to gather intelligence about the situation on the ground -- two days after Russia announced it would withdraw 10,000 troops from its border with that nation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-flies-reconnaissance-aircraft-
over-eastern-ukraine/ar-AASftvL?ocid=msedgntp

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1KIKI

Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:25 AM (P)

Because the US has a KEY INTEREST in defending US borders!!! ... with Ukraine (check out any map!!! Ukraine is right there, bordering the US!) ... and isn't just provoking Russia ...

THG

Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:42 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Because the US has a KEY INTEREST in defending US borders!!! ... with Ukraine (check out any map!!! Ukraine is right there, bordering the US!) ... and isn't just provoking Russia ...

Nope, we have a key interest in defending democracies against dictatorships. One border with Russia is enough.

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SIGNYM

Thursday, December 30, 2021 4:10 AM (P)

Quote:
1KIKI: Because the US has a KEY INTEREST in defending US borders!!! ... with Ukraine (check out any map!!! Ukraine is right there, bordering the US!) ... and isn't just provoking Russia ...

THUGR: Nope, we have a key interest in defending democracies against dictatorships.

Why?

That is, assuming that Ukraine even qualifies as a "democracy", that is; and that Russia qualifies as a "dictatorship".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:41 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
1KIKI: Because the US has a KEY INTEREST in defending US borders!!! ... with Ukraine (check out any map!!! Ukraine is right there, bordering the US!) ... and isn't just provoking Russia ...

THUGR: Nope, we have a key interest in defending democracies against dictatorships.
Why?

That is, assuming that Ukraine even qualifies as a "democracy", that is; and that Russia qualifies as a "dictatorship".

It's obvious isn't it. Because comrade because...

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THG

Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:43 AM (P)

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French warship visits Ukrainian port amid escalating tensions with Russia. Dec 25, 2021 • French warship has dogged in Ukrainian port

1KIKI

Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:07 AM (P)

THUGGER thinks the US qualifies as the supreme dictator of the world, able to remake any country into any image it finds more ~~lucrativ...~~; ~~convenien...~~; ~~malleabl...~~ ... there's a good word somewhere that means all of that.

THG

Sunday, January 2, 2022 11:12 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

THUGGER thinks the US qualifies as the supreme dictator of the world, able to remake any country into any image it finds more ~~lucrativ...~~; ~~convenien...~~; ~~malleabl...~~ ... there's a good word somewhere that means all of that.

The rights group that dug up Russia's dark past

For over 30 years, Memorial worked on uncovering the fates of the victims of Soviet political repressions. It also exposed human rights abuses in present-day Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-rights-group-that-dug-up-russ
ia-s-dark-past/ar-AASmjVK?ocid=msedgntp

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, January 3, 2022 4:51 AM (P)

I'm far more concerned about the human rights abuses going on in our country.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

1KIKI

Monday, January 3, 2022 4:51 AM (P)

Why are you so deeply attracted to Putin that you can't go a single day without thinking of him?

You're his most extreme fan here.

SIGNYM

Monday, January 3, 2022 7:10 AM (P)

Quote:
1KIKI: Because the US has a KEY INTEREST in defending US borders!!! ... with Ukraine (check out any map!!! Ukraine is right there, bordering the US!) ... and isn't just provoking Russia ...

THUGR: Nope, we have a key interest in defending democracies against dictatorships.

SIGNY: Why?
That is, assuming that Ukraine even qualifies as a "democracy", that is; and that Russia qualifies as a "dictatorship".

THUGR: It's obvious isn't it.

No, it's not. Why don't you try explaining in your own words instead of reaching for a stupid video that doesn't even say what you want it to say? I mean, did you even WATCH it?

The reporter even noted the "far right" (ie Nazi) presence in the Ukrainian nationalist crowd, and admitted that most Crimeans were happy that Russia took over.

So maybe you should make a more convincing argument.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Wednesday, January 5, 2022 9:52 PM (P)

Go Joe...

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:09 PM (P)

Earth to THUGR: In what world does Biden* getting his head blown off by Putin, who appears to be holding all the cards, qualify as a "Putin disaster"?

Looks more like a Biden* disaster, to me. Unless you count Biden* braggadoccio/suicide as some sort of success, that is?

Again, like your video, the cartoon doesn't say what you think it does. Maybe you should understand your cartoons and videos before you post them?

Not BTW that I agree with the cartoon, just pointing out your general lack of understanding.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:12 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Earth to THUGR: In what world does Biden* getting his head blown off by Putin, who appears to be holding all the cards, qualify as a "Putin disaster"?

Looks more like a Biden* disaster, to me. Unless you count Biden* braggadoccio/suicide as some sort of success, that is?

Again, like your video, the cartoon doesn't say what you think it does. Maybe you should understand your cartoons and videos before you post them?

Not BTW that I agree with the cartoon, just pointing out your general lack of understanding.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

So why doesn't he then? No balls?

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 5, 2022 11:11 PM (P)

Do you WANT a war with Russia? Because it is a war we would lose, no matter what the arena and whether conventional or nuclear. (Of course, in a nuclear war, we ALL lose, so... no winners there!)

Maybe Putin isn't as warlike as YOU are, THUGR, bc you seem pretty itchy to pull triggers. He's probably a better person than you are. You're just a hyperagressive asshole who seems to think that mindlessly picking fights "proves something".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Thursday, January 6, 2022 9:57 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you WANT a war with Russia? Because it is a war we would lose, no matter what the arena and whether conventional or nuclear. (Of course, in a nuclear war, we ALL lose, so... no winners there!)

Maybe Putin isn't as warlike as YOU are, THUGR, bc you seem pretty itchy to pull triggers. He's probably a better person than you are. You're just a hyperagressive asshole who seems to think that mindlessly picking fights "proves something".

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

That’s funny Polish Russian Collaborator Signym. Very funny indeed.

T

Kazakhstan: Dozens of protesters reported killed as Russia-led military alliance heads to the country

Dozens of protesters were killed and hundreds injured during clashes in Kazakhstan, a police official from the largest city Almaty said Thursday, as troops from a Russian-led military alliance of post-Soviet states begin their operations in the Central Asian country to help quell the unrest.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kazakhstan-dozens-of-protesters-r
eported-killed-as-russia-led-military-alliance-heads-to-the-country/ar-AASuSoR?ocid=msedgntp

SIGNYM

Thursday, January 6, 2022 10:18 PM (P)

These are not "protesters", and this is not a "protest".
It is an armed insurrection.
Those killed were armed groups attacking police stations.

Having watched videos of the insurrection, I can tell you what I did NOT see:

I did NOT see masses of people in the tens or hundreds of thousands pouring through the streets.

What I saw were small groups of well-armed young men attacking government buildings and looting stores. What MAY have started out as a protest against LPG price hikes has apparently been hijacked by a much smaller, armed group dedicated to overthrowing the government. So far, I see no evidence of broad, popular support.

Calling these "protests" is a much a perversion of reality as calling Jan 6 a "coup attempt".

Once again, you should be ashamed of being taken in by spin, but I know you're too dunderheaded to be embarrassed by your own gullibilty.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THG

Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
These are not "protesters", and this is not a "protest".
It is an armed insurrection.
Those killed were armed groups attacking police stations.

Having watched videos of the insurrection, I can tell you what I did NOT see:

I did NOT see masses of people in the tens or hundreds of thousands pouring through the streets.

What I saw were small groups of well-armed young men attacking government buildings and looting stores. What MAY have started out as a protest against LPG price hikes has apparently been hijacked by a much smaller, armed group dedicated to overthrowing the government. So far, I see no evidence of broad, popular support.

Calling these "protests" is a much a perversion of reality as calling Jan 6 a "coup attempt".

Once again, you should be ashamed of being taken in by spin, but I know you're too dunderheaded to be embarrassed by your own gullibilty.

Putin’s Next Door Nightmare Just Came True Right Under His Nose

As the country’s rich elite took off in their private jets, the “revolution”—sparked in part by hiked up fuel prices—showed no signs of slowing down. Protesters have set administrative buildings on fire in several big cities across the country, disarmed cops, torn epaulets off of police uniforms, and demanded an end to the three-decade-long career of Nursultan Nazarbayev, the powerful head of the country’s National Security Council and a long-time Putin ally.

Meanwhile, Kremlin’s state TV channels—wary of the fact that the protests are a living nightmare for President Vladimir Putin—failed to translate the demonstrators’ chants. The Kazakh protestors may have been all too direct in their message to Nazarbayev for Russian airwaves, as they demanded that he “Shal ket!”(Get out, old man!).

Moscow descends into a panic every time such protests threaten to end old regimes, and has done so ever since Hillary Clinton called for the U.S. to “figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent” Putin’s efforts to re-Sovietize former USSR territories like Kazakhstan. After Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev dismissed Nazarbayev from the top position at the National Security Council on Wednesday, there was no doubt left that the old regime, including Putin’s closest ally in the country, had fallen.

“This is the last day of the Soviet Union; today is the day when the USSR has finally died,” a pro-Kremlin expert on Central Asia, Yuriy Krupnov, told The Daily Beast.

A sure-fire sign of Moscow's concern about Kazakhstan emerged on Wednesday when the chairman of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CTSO)—a military alliance led by Russia that includes Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan—declared it would send troops at Tokayev's request to "to assist Kazakhstan in overcoming this terrorist threat."

Ah shucks...

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THG

Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:41 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Putin never wanted Ukraine. It's a garbage dump full of westerners and oligarch rats gnawing whatever flesh is left.

Oh, btw - Chernobyl? That's Ukraine, not Russia, fyi. Another oozing festering Ukrainian rot.

Britain warns Russia over Ukraine: we're working on high-impact sanctions

LONDON (Reuters) -Britain warned Moscow on Thursday that it was working with Western partners on high-impact sanctions targetting Russia's financial sector should it invade Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-warns-russia-over-ukraine
-we-re-working-on-high-impact-sanctions/ar-AASuPNw?ocid=msedgntp

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