Another Putin Disaster
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'Very strange': Putin's version of Ukraine's history baffles and concerns experts
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Kenyan U.N. ambassador compares Ukraine's plight to colonial legacy in Africa
Russia's move to recognize breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine as "republics" drew a sharp rebuke from Kenyan U.N. Ambassador Martin Kimani, who used a speech at the U.N. Security Council to recount the perils of clinging to vestiges of empire.
Kimani said Russian President Vladimir Putin rejected diplomacy in favor of military force, which has put the international norm of multilateralism "on its deathbed."
He warned Russia to respect its border with Ukraine, using Africa's colonial past to highlight the dangers of stoking the "embers of dead empires."
"Rather than form nations that looked ever backward into history with a dangerous nostalgia, we chose to look forward to a greatness none of our many nations and peoples had ever known," Kimani said.
Here's a transcript of part of Kimani's speech where he stressed the importance of moving on:
"This situation echoes our history. Kenya and almost every African country was birthed by the ending of empire. Our borders were not of our own drawing. They were drawn in the distant colonial metropoles of London, Paris and Lisbon, with no regard for the ancient nations that they cleaved apart.
Today, across the border of every single African country, live our countrymen with whom we share deep historical, cultural and linguistic bonds.
At independence, had we chosen to pursue states on the basis of ethnic, racial or religious homogeneity, we would still be waging bloody wars these many decades later.
Instead, we agreed that we would settle for the borders that we inherited, but we would still pursue continental political, economic and legal integration. Rather than form nations that looked ever backward into history with a dangerous nostalgia, we chose to look forward to a greatness none of our many nations and peoples had ever known.
We chose to follow the rules of the Organisation of African Unity and the United Nations charter, not because our borders satisfied us, but because we wanted something greater, forged in peace.
We believe that all states formed from empires that have collapsed or retreated have many peoples in them yearning for integration with peoples in neighboring states. This is normal and understandable. After all, who does not want to be joined to their brethren and to make common purpose with them?
However, Kenya rejects such a yearning from being pursued by force. We must complete our recovery from the embers of dead empires in a way that does not plunge us back into new forms of domination and oppression.
We rejected irredentism and expansionism on any basis, including racial, ethnic, religious or cultural factors. We reject it again today.
Kenya registers its strong concern and opposition to the recognition of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states. We further strongly condemn the trend in the last few decades of powerful states, including members of this Security Council, breaching international law with little regard.
Multilateralism lies on its deathbed tonight. It has been assaulted today as it as it has been by other powerful states in the recent past.
We call on all members to rally behind the Secretary-General in asking him to rally us all to the standard that defends multilateralism. We also call on him to bring his good offices to bear to help the concerned parties resolve this situation by peaceful means.
Let me conclude, Mr. President, by reaffirming Kenya's respect for the territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders."
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082334172/kenya-security-council-russi
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Kimani didn’t use the West’s past imperialism as an excuse to condone violating Ukraine’s sovereignty. Instead, he was rightly willing to place the blame for any war in Ukraine squarely where it belongs, on Moscow’s neocolonialism and Putin’s need to go down in the hist
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There is video of this at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/21/putin-angry-spectacle-am
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Sergei Naryshkin, the hawkish head of Russia’s spy service, known for making aggressively anti-western statements, stuttered uncomfortably as Putin grilled him on whether he supported the decision.
“Speak directly!” Putin snapped, twice.
Eventually, when he was able to get the words out, Naryshkin said he supported “the LNR and DNR becoming part of Russia.” Putin told him that wasn’t the subject of the discussion; it was only recognition being weighed up.
Some suggested this might have been a carefully scripted encounter to show the West what other options might be available, but Naryshkin’s genuinely flustered expression suggested otherwise.
It is hard to tell whether or not Putin had decided his plan for Ukraine months ago, or whether he has been making plans on the hop, but it was certainly clear that the decision on recognition had been taken well before this strange, stage-managed event.
There was very little exchange of opinion, and the idea that it was all spontaneous was further undermined by the fact that closeups of the watches of certain participants appeared to suggest that the “live” broadcast had in fact been filmed several hours earlier.
This did not stop Putin specifically emphasising that the event really was a frank exchange of views.
“Every one of you knows, and I specially want to underline it … I did not discuss any of this with you before. I did not ask your opinion before. And this is happening spontaneously, because I wanted to hear your opinions without any preliminary preparation,” he said.
The appearance of Putin just a few hours later with his long, pre-prepared and wide-ranging speech made the claim this was all a real-time decision-making process even more implausible.
Many of Putin’s team give the impression of genuinely believing the propaganda narrative Russia has built to justify its continuing aggression against Ukraine. Valentina Matviyenko, the only woman on the security council, gave an elongated harangue cobbled together from the more outlandish talking points of Russian news bulletins: innocent Russia facing down the nefarious west, which was backing the “genocidal” Kyiv regime.
Not everyone was so enthusiastic: the prime minister, Mikhail Mishustin, spoke briefly and drily, looking visibly uncomfortable. Not willing to let him off the hook without swearing fealty to the decision that was already inevitably on the way, Putin asked him directly whether he supported it; Mishustin mumbled that he did. Everyone was now publicly on record as supporting this move; nobody will be able to weasel out of it later and claim they put up a fight.
The recognition decision answers some questions but others remain. There is a chance Putin may simply recognise the two republics “as they are”. This, after months of apocalyptic scenarios, would probably be privately accepted as a good outcome by Ukraine and the west.
But it seems likely that Putin has much more in mind than simply taking a nibble out of Ukraine’s east and taking formal responsibility for territories he already de facto controlled.
Putin’s final words, that if Kyiv did not stop the violence they would bear responsibility for the “ensuing bloodshed”, were ominous in the extreme. It sounded, quite simply, like a declaration of war.
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None of this is our problem.
And besides, why would anybody trust us to help anybody protect their borders when we don't do fuckall to protect our own from invaders?
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Just to comment: It is you, SECOND, who is engaging in "whataboutism".
I brought up the dozens (hundreds throughout USA history) of treaties, pacts, agreements, international laws etc that we broke, and you brought up "whataboutCrimea"?
Whatabout JCPOA? Whatabout Open Skies? Short range missiles? Nuclear warheads? Libya,Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan? Whatabout Ukraine? Yugoslavia? How many instances do you want? I can bring up a lot more!
We can whatabout until Christmas, so let's move the discussion in a more productive direction: under what circumstances is it legal, or ethical, to break treaties, contracts etc.?
I know that under international law, a nation has an obligation to repay the IMF even if the debt was incurred and embezzled by a totally different government. OTOH, banks don't seem to have the same obligations to their clients: The BoE, for example, effectively stole Venezuela's gold (which it had placed with the BoE for safekeeping) when the BoE recognized Juan "Random Guy" Guaido as the legitimate head of Venezuela (really???) and made him the official gold owner.
What about the IMF wanting to renegotiate its loan to Ukraine at the beginning of a civil war?
So, again ... under what circumstances is it legal, or ethical, to break a contract, treaty, agreement, pact, or even international law?
I don't know the answer, and I'm not looking for a specific one. Just looking for your opinions, and how you came to your conclusions.
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Quote:Yep. We seem to be in everybody's business except our own. Maybe we should do some home repair b4 we start remodeling everyone else's.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of this is our problem.
And besides, why would anybody trust us to help anybody protect their borders when we don't do fuckall to protect our own from invaders?
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Quote:Why not mention the 1,000 broken treaties with Indians as 1,000 justifications to break a treaty with Ukraine? Such a small promise broken: Ukraine gives up its nuclear weapons and the US promises Ukraine it won't regret doing that when Russia (I mean Putin) decides Ukraine really never was a country. It is just the one thousandth and one broken promise by the US government. It is not like Putin might next decide that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were never countries and were always Russian. Putin would never, never wipe three countries off the map -- bang, bang, bang. While Putin is in the mood, why not wipe that non-NATO Finland off the map?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just to comment: It is you, SECIND, who is engaging in "whataboutism".
I brought up the dozens (hundreds throughout USA history) of treaties, pacts, agreements, international laws etc that we broke, and you brought up "whataboutCrimea"?
Whatabout JCPOA? Whatabout Open Skies? Short range missiles? Nuclear warheads? Libya,Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan? Whatabout Whatabout Ukraine? Yugoslavia? How many instances do you want? I can bring up a lot more!
We can whatabout until Christmas, so let's move the discussion in a different direction: under what circumstances is it legal, or ethical, to break treaties, contracts etc.?
I know that under international law, a nation hs an obligation to repay the IMF even if the debt was incurred and even embezzled by a totally different government. OTOH, banks don't seem to hve the same obligations to their clients: The BoE, for example, just recently effectively stole Venezuela's gold (which it hd placed with the BoE for safekeeping) when the BoE recognized Juan "Random Guy" Guaido as the legitimate head of Venezuela and mde him the official gold owner.
So, again ... under what circumstances is it legal, or ethical, to break a contract, treaty, agreement, pact, or even international law?
Anyone aware of the Kaliningrad Oblast of Russia? If I were Putin, I would want to reattach it to the rest of Russia. Is someone in the way? Run them over with the Russian Army. What else is an Army for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
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Sure! Why not?
After all, if we can do it 1000X over, so can Russia!
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yep. We seem to be in everybody's business except our own. Maybe we should do some home repair b4 we start remodeling everyone else's.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
None of this is our problem.
And besides, why would anybody trust us to help anybody protect their borders when we don't do fuckall to protect our own from invaders?
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The blame America first crowd never miss an opportunity to blame America first.
I have to ask, why has nobody sounded the alarm over Putin's invading Belorussia? Now that he's there he's staying, refusing to leave.
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Quote:It is impossible to travel overland between the Kaliningrad Oblast and the main contiguous portion of Russia without passing through at least two other countries. There is nothing stopping Putin from passing his Army, other than treaties he could forget exist. The Russians of Kaliningrad would welcome Putin's Army, know what I mean?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Sure! Why not?
After all, if we can do it 1000X over, so can Russia!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
Google map of that road trip from Moscow to Kaliningrad: https://goo.gl/maps/J7Keop8XqHqENdME9
It is 16 hr 42 min (1,264 km) via M-9
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It is impossible to travel overland between the Kaliningrad Oblast and the main contiguous portion of Russia without passing through at least two other countries. There is nothing stopping Putin from passing his Army, other than treaties he could forget exist. The Russians of Kaliningrad would welcome Putin's Army, know what I mean?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Sure! Why not?
After all, if we can do it 1000X over, so can Russia!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
Google map of that road trip from Moscow to Kaliningrad: https://goo.gl/maps/J7Keop8XqHqENdME9
It is 16 hr 42 min (1,264 km) via M-9
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I know what you mean. Putin just took Belarus. He may be going from the coastline of Estonia down through Lithuania.
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Quote:That road trip to Kaliningrad is shortened by 9 hr 24 min (777 km) if Putin starts it more toward the border of Latvia with Russia. Later, Putin crosses into Lithuania. Nothing is stopping Putin from taking that trip, or sending his Army instead, other than worthless paper treaties forbidding taking the trip.
Originally posted by THG:
I know what you mean.
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Quote:That road trip to Kaliningrad is shortened by 9 hr 24 min (777 km) if Putin starts it more toward the border of Latvia with Russia. Later, Putin crosses into Lithuania. Nothing is stopping Putin from taking that trip, or sending his Army instead, other than worthless paper treaties forbidding taking the trip.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I know what you mean.
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I was just adding this same thought to my last post.
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Quote:Here is a treaty that forbids Putin making a road trip into Ukraine, but Putin is not the kind of guy who knows how to use google to find treaties he is not supposed to break. Sadly, Putin has a really short memory for what is in treaties:
Originally posted by THG:
I was just adding this same thought to my last post.
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UN Treaties: Memorandum on security assurances in connection with Ukraine’s accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDetails.aspx?objid=0800000280401fbb
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I find it very unsurprising that Putin is divorced. The guy forgets anniversaries, birthdays, pledges of fidelity to his wife, treaties with Ukraine, you name it, Putin can forget it. There is some other President that was divorced, forget his name, but you never could trust a written promise, even business contracts, from him, just like you can't trust Putin to keep a promise.
Russian President Vladimir Putin may have had an affair with sexy former Kremlin spy Anna Chapman, the latest in a series of rumors about Putin’s numerous affairs, The Daily Mail reports.
Putin’s philandering has apparently gotten so bad that many are blaming it for the disappearance of his wife of 29 years, Lyudmila Putina, from the spotlight. Putin, 59, has been photographed just twice with his wife in the last two years, according to the New York Post.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-anna-chapman-affair-wife-2012-4
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Originally posted by second:
I find it very unsurprising that Putin is divorced. The guy forgets anniversaries, birthdays, pledges of fidelity to his wife, treaties with Ukraine, you name it, Putin can forget it. There is some other President that was divorced, forget his name, but you never could trust a written promise, even business contracts, from him, just like you can't trust Putin to keep a promise.
Yeah. They should have stayed together like the Clintons did.
Go fuck yourself.
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Quote:As usual, you missed the point that Putin does NOT keep promises, neither big ones to his wife nor little promises to NOT invade Ukraine. Putin glibly repudiates both kinds of promises.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I find it very unsurprising that Putin is divorced. The guy forgets anniversaries, birthdays, pledges of fidelity to his wife, treaties with Ukraine, you name it, Putin can forget it. There is some other President that was divorced, forget his name, but you never could trust a written promise, even business contracts, from him, just like you can't trust Putin to keep a promise.
Yeah. They should have stayed together like the Clintons did.
Go fuck yourself.
Trump voters are the same as Trump. Quick to make promises, slow to keep them, prone to amnesia about the details, glibly downplaying consequences for breaking their promises.
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Quote:Here is a treaty that forbids Putin making a road trip into Ukraine, but Putin is not the kind of guy who knows how to use google to find treaties he is not supposed to break. Sadly, Putin has a really short memory for what is in treaties:
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I was just adding this same thought to my last post.
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UN Treaties: Memorandum on security assurances in connection with Ukraine’s accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
https://treaties.un.org/Pages/showDetails.aspx?objid=0800000280401fbb
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
I find it hilarious Putin wants assurances his demands will be met when the list of signed agreements, treaties he has violated is endless. I would love, if the next time this is pointed out by one of our diplomats, they end by looking into the camera and asking Putin directly, what good are assurances signed by both parties if one of those parties cannot be trusted to honor them? When one to those parties has lied again and again and violated so many of his declared pledges?
They won't but they really should. I'd also put the same question to Signym. I'm sure though Sig will respond with something about the American Indian. You know SECOND, whataboutism.
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Quote:I find it perfectly predictable that Donald Trump has hailed Russian President Vladimir Putin as “savvy” and called his move on Ukraine “genius” in a new interview.
Originally posted by THG:
I find it hilarious Putin wants assurances his demands will be met when the list of signed agreements, treaties he has violated is endless.
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Mr Trump initially broke his silence on the Russia-Ukraine crisis on Tuesday morning through a tweet posted by his spokesperson in which he claimed that his relationship with Putin would have prevented the crisis.
Trump doubles down on ‘insane’ ‘adulation’ of Putin
The former president of the United States doubled down on his praise for Vladimir Putin and criticism of Joe Biden on Wednesday as the US and Russia appear to be experiencing a major breakdown of relations amid Russia’s aggression in Crimea and towards Ukraine.
Donald Trump issued an early-morning statement on Wednesday which crowed that the Russian president was playing his US counterpart “like a drum”, seemingly ignoring the criticism he has faced over the last day regarding his overly-complimentary view of Mr Putin.
“Putin is playing Biden like a drum. It is not a pretty thing to watch!” said the former president in one of his tweet-like statements issued by his office.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ne
ws-today-jan-6-supreme-court-latest-b2021078.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20220223182931/https://www.independent.co.
uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-putin-biden-russia-ukraine-b2021502.html
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Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech
In an impassioned address about Ukraine on Monday, Vladimir V. Putin, Russia’s president, spun a narrative whose implications sprawl well beyond his stated purpose of recognizing the independence of two Ukrainian territories held by Moscow-backed separatists.
Mr. Putin’s speech was awash with hard-line Russian nationalism, angry paranoia toward the West, baseless claims of Ukrainian aggression, a sense of lost imperial pride on the verge of reclamation and, most of all, invocations of history, much of it distorted or fabricated.
While his comments might have sounded rambling to Western ears, Mr. Putin may in fact have been articulating what amounted to a calculated series of justifications for a further invasion of Ukraine aimed at the Russian public, whose support he will need to maintain it. What follows is a concise annotation of several key passages that convey Mr. Putin’s overt and implied case for war.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220223121809/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-ukraine.html
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Quote:'Paranoia" about the west??
Originally posted by second:
Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech
In an impassioned address about Ukraine on Monday, Vladimir V. Putin, Russia’s president, spun a narrative whose implications sprawl well beyond his stated purpose of recognizing the independence of two Ukrainian territories held by Moscow-backed separatists.
Mr. Putin’s speech was awash with hard-line Russian nationalism, angry paranoia toward the West, baseless claims of Ukrainian aggression, a sense of lost imperial pride on the verge of reclamation and, most of all, invocations of history, much of it distorted or fabricated.
While his comments might have sounded rambling to Western ears, Mr. Putin may in fact have been articulating what amounted to a calculated series of justifications for a further invasion of Ukraine aimed at the Russian public, whose support he will need to maintain it. What follows is a concise annotation of several key passages that convey Mr. Putin’s overt and implied case for war.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220223121809/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-ukraine.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Like we haven't toppled 50 nations since WWII and been angling to break Russia apart since then?
Heck, all we have to do is go back a page or two where YOU called for breaking Russia apart. But, you'll fling ANYthing against the wall, won't you? I would certainly never expect deeply held convictions or honesty ... or even consistency! ... from you! Just permanent, visceral hate.
You don't seriously expect us to swallow your bullshit, do you?
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Originally posted by THG:
I find it hilarious Putin wants assurances his demands will be met when the list of signed agreements, treaties he has violated is endless.
What list is that?
LIST, or it hasn't happened.
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SIGNYM:
Sure! Why not?
After all, if we can do it 1000X over, so can Russia!
SECOND: ...There is nothing stopping Putin from passing his Army, other than treaties he could forget exist. The Russians of Kaliningrad would welcome Putin's Army, know what I mean?
Sure, why not?? We've done that dozens of times!! Bc everyone welcomes Americans, right?
/snicker
I noticed you haven't answered any of my questions, SECOND. Whyizzit?
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Quote:Putin loudly declared Ukraine is an illegitimate creation: an act of theft from Russia and Ukrainians who should still be under Moscow’s rule. And, in an escalation drawing concern across Europe, Mr. Putin suggests that this applies to all former Soviet republics. Three of those countries are now NATO members, meaning that the NATO alliance has committed to their defense: Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
/snicker
https://web.archive.org/web/20220223121809/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-ukraine.html
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Quote:So be scared!!!
Originally posted by second:Quote:Putin loudly declared Ukraine is an illegitimate creation: an act of theft from Russia and Ukrainians who should still be under Moscow’s rule. And, in an escalation drawing concern across Europe, Mr. Putin suggests that this applies to all former Soviet republics. Three of those countries are now NATO members, meaning that the NATO alliance has committed to their defense: Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
/snicker
https://web.archive.org/web/20220223121809/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-ukraine.html
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Be very, very scared!!
/ snicker
USA might have thought about that during the decades when they were breaking promises, bailing on treaties, rampaging thru the world, demonizing, insulting, threatening and pillaging Russia. All that bad karma building up would be enough to make anybody nervous!
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Have fun fighting the war, old man.
I won't have any part of it, and I won't be funding it.
Just remember when we, as the reigning species of the planet, blow everything up before we could get to space, it was the Leftists that pushed the red button.
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Quote:The last time the USA stole somebody's land was the Spanish-American War in 1896. In 2022, Putin is stealing somebody's land. Signym vaguely pointing to American history really does not justify Putin's theft. Even Putin can't justify his thieving, judging by the words he is using.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So be scared!!!
Be very, very scared!!
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USA might have thought about that during the decades when they were breaking promises, bailing on treaties, rampaging thru the world, demonizing, insulting, threatening and pillaging Russia. All that bad karma building up would be enough to make anybody nervous!
Putin's lamebrain justification presented as a "fact": "So, I will start with the fact that modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia or, to be more precise, by Bolshevik, Communist Russia. This process started practically right after the 1917 revolution, and Lenin and his associates did it in a way that was extremely harsh on Russia — by separating, severing what is historically Russian land." You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe what Putin is saying, but he knows his audience.
Mr. Putin is repeating his longstanding argument that Ukraine’s borders are an artificial creation of Soviet planners who unjustly cordoned rightful Russian land within the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
In reality, internal Soviet borders reflected centuries-old cultural and political divides, as well as what Moscow’s own census takers found to be an ethnic Ukrainian majority throughout that territory, including in what is now eastern Ukraine.
Mr. Putin’s comments, which build on his justification for annexing Crimea in 2014, imply a mandate to assert Russian sovereignty over part or all of eastern Ukraine, as well, even if for now he is only recognizing the independence of the Moscow-backed separatists who control parts of it.
His repeated references to Ukraine as artificial, and his past claims that “Ukraine is not even a state,” as he said in 2008, suggest he may also be leaving himself the option of declaring all of Ukraine to be a historical invention, serving to justify a wider invasion.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220223121809/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-ukraine.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The last time the USA stole somebody's land was the Spanish-American War in 1896. In 2022, Putin is stealing somebody's land. Signym vaguely pointing to American history really does not justify Putin's theft. Even Putin can't justify his thieving, judging by the words he is using.
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So be scared!!!
Be very, very scared!!
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USA might have thought about that during the decades when they were breaking promises, bailing on treaties, rampaging thru the world, demonizing, insulting, threatening and pillaging Russia. All that bad karma building up would be enough to make anybody nervous!
Putin's lamebrain justification presented as a "fact": "So, I will start with the fact that modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia or, to be more precise, by Bolshevik, Communist Russia. This process started practically right after the 1917 revolution, and Lenin and his associates did it in a way that was extremely harsh on Russia — by separating, severing what is historically Russian land." You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe what Putin is saying, but he knows his audience.
Mr. Putin is repeating his longstanding argument that Ukraine’s borders are an artificial creation of Soviet planners who unjustly cordoned rightful Russian land within the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
In reality, internal Soviet borders reflected centuries-old cultural and political divides, as well as what Moscow’s own census takers found to be an ethnic Ukrainian majority throughout that territory, including in what is now eastern Ukraine.
Mr. Putin’s comments, which build on his justification for annexing Crimea in 2014, imply a mandate to assert Russian sovereignty over part or all of eastern Ukraine, as well, even if for now he is only recognizing the independence of the Moscow-backed separatists who control parts of it.
His repeated references to Ukraine as artificial, and his past claims that “Ukraine is not even a state,” as he said in 2008, suggest he may also be leaving himself the option of declaring all of Ukraine to be a historical invention, serving to justify a wider invasion.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220223121809/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-ukraine.html
Comrade Signym sounds just like Putin. Whining and crying because of the fall of the Soviet Union forty fifty years ago. I’m left reflecting on all the years here putting up with Signym posting lies and being judgmental towards anybody who wasn’t perfect in the west. Towards any action taken by the west that was taken for legit reasons but allowed her to pick at it because of collateral damage. Any action, which includes the inner workings of America. All the years of her smugly defending Putin. All the years of her touting him as a world leader to be admired and even imitated while trashing everybody else.
It’s all led to this day. The day when she can no longer make any claims to being anything other than another Putin thug.Another of Putin’s disinformation trolls that care nothing for world peace or the betterment of mankind.
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Putin attacks Ukraine after months saying he had no plans to do so
Kharkiv, Ukraine — CBS News senior foreign correspondent Holly Williams said that after weeks of warnings from Washington that a Russian invasion of Ukraine was imminent, when it came down to it, there was almost no direct warning before missiles started falling on Wednesday evening.
Just minutes after Vladimir Putin announced his country's military operation, Williams and her team heard the thuds of what they assumed to be missile strikes close to their location in the eastern city of Kharkiv, only around 30 miles from the Russian border.
Putin said Wednesday night, that his government's plans "do not include an occupation," but given that Russia denied for months any plans to invade Ukraine at all, it's not clear how much faith could be put in his statement.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-attacks-ukraine-after-month
s-saying-he-had-no-plans-to-do-so/ar-AAUg0Z8?ocid=BingNews
Putin is a liar and by extension a coward surprise surprise. I hope the Russian people realize that when he threatens nuclear war that he is in a hardened bunker, they are not. They really do need to wake the fuck up.
Signym still insists that Clinton would start a nuclear war and how bad that would be. When Putin actually threatens nuclear war comrade signym says nothing. Any claims now by posters past and present that she isn’t a Polish Russian Collaborator only shows complicity.
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1kiki or her handler is suspiciously silent. Maybe she was killed in the first wave?
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Quote:Russia has had a long line of loonies in charge (remember Boris Yeltsin? Ha-ha! Loony as Trump!), but the Russian people never did wake up before now. I doubt they will this time, either.
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Putin is a liar and by extension a coward surprise surprise. I hope the Russian people realize that when he threatens nuclear war that he is in a hardened bunker, they are not. They really do need to wake the fuck up.
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Here is one of those Russian loonies (and he happens to be someone that Putin has praised, over and over, as did Joseph Stalin):
Contemporary sources present disparate accounts of Ivan's complex personality. He was described as intelligent and devout but also prone to paranoia, rage, and episodic outbreaks of mental instability that increased with age. In one fit of anger, he murdered his eldest son and heir, Ivan Ivanovich, and he might also have caused the miscarriage of the latter's unborn child. This left his younger son, the politically ineffectual Feodor Ivanovich, to inherit the throne, a man whose rule and subsequent childless death directly led to the end of the Rurikid dynasty and the beginning of the Time of Troubles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible
Putin Offers Revisionist Spin on Ivan the Terrible
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2017/07/16/putin-offers-revisionist-spi
n-on-ivan-the-terrible-a58403
Russia falls back in love with Ivan the Terrible
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-falls-back-in-love-with-ivan-th
e-terrible-statue-monument-oryol/
Admitting publicly that bribery was usual business practice in Russia, Mr. Pacolli confirmed in early-December 1999 that he had guaranteed five credit cards for Mr. Yeltsin's wife, Naina, and two daughters, Tatyana and Yelena. President Yeltsin resigned a few weeks later on 31 December 1999, appointing Vladimir Putin as his successor. President Putin's first decree as president was lifelong immunity from prosecution for Yeltsin. (In a properly run country, Yeltsin would have been jailed. Trump hasn't been jailed, either, but prosecutors don't have the excuse that Trump has lifelong immunity.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Yeltsin#Mabetex_corruption
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Time will tell second. This may turn out to be a monumental mistake on Putins’ part. Let’s hope it is. So far the Ukrainians are fighting back. Even having more success than predicted. So far Putin has not shut down the Ukraine military's ability to communicate with each other. Another mistake...
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The Ukrainians are very tech savvy. They should target Russia's infrastructure now, and we should help them from foreign soil. Lets go lets go lets go.
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Quote:Putin is not Macbeth, who got the death he deserved in a less than 2 hour long movie. Putin will probably long reign over Russia and Ukraine will fall, splat, in a bloody mess.
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Time will tell second. This may turn out to be a monumental mistake on Putins’ part. Let’s hope it is. So far the Ukrainians are fighting back. Even having more success than predicted. So far Putin has not shut down the Ukraine military's ability to communicate with each other. Another mistake...
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The Tragedy of Macbeth, 2021, R, 1h 45m
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10095582/
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I see that Russians are rising up against Putin. Just kidding. Almost no Russians rise up. Co-chair of Russia’s trade union of journalists, solo picketing against Russian invasion. Her itty-bitty sign says "War with Ukraine is Russia’s disgrace".
https://imgur.com/gallery/QytbXgn
Anti-war solo pickets like this are popping up in cities across Russia. It’s not much but they’re arrested almost immediately, often upon leaving their homes when the cops know to expect them. Here’s Sofya Rusova, co-chair of Russia’s Trade Union of Journalists.
https://imgur.com/gallery/ks6wJH7
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As Russian bombs pound Ukraine, and its soldiers pour into Ukrainian territory, the question on everyone’s mind is: Why? What does Russia hope to accomplish with a massive invasion?
Russian President Vladimir Putin gave his version of an answer in his televised speech Wednesday night, announcing a “special military operation” whose “goal is to protect people who have been abused by the genocide of the Kyiv regime for eight years.” Ultimately: “We will strive for the demilitarization and de-Nazification of Ukraine, as well as bringing to justice those who committed numerous bloody crimes against civilians.”
On its face, this sounds detached from reality. There is no ongoing genocide in Ukraine. The Ukrainian government itself is not even close to a Nazi regime. The country’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, is Jewish; he speaks proudly of how his Jewish grandfather fought against Hitler’s army.
But with this seemingly absurd rhetoric, Putin is laying the propaganda groundwork for the overthrow of Ukraine’s government.
US intelligence has warned that Putin aims to topple Ukraine’s government, round up prominent Ukrainians “to be killed or sent to camps,” and install a puppet regime in Kyiv. When Putin speaks of “de-Nazification” and “bringing [Ukrainians] to justice,” this is exactly what he means.
https://www.vox.com/2022/2/24/22948944/putin-ukraine-nazi-russia-speec
h-declare-war
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It’s possible to make sense of Putin’s unhinged ranting about genocide and the de-Nazification of Ukraine. The idea of Ukraine as a Nazi state is deeply rooted in the Russian nationalist narrative.
“It goes back to World War II, when Ukrainian partisans took the Nazi side against the Soviets,” Gunitsky explains. “The narrative in Russia today is that these are all neo-Nazis running the show.” Ukraine is the inheritor of a neo-Nazi tradition that contributed to untold Russian deaths during World War II.
Putin’s claims of “genocide” in Ukraine reflect Russian nationalism. Ukraine has a large ethnic Russian population; they are potential victims of an ethnic cleansing campaign by the neo-Nazi Ukrainian government.
“The formation of an ethnically pure Ukrainian state, aggressive towards Russia, is comparable in its consequences to the use of weapons of mass destruction against us,” as Putin put it in his 2021 essay. “As a result of such a harsh and artificial division of Russians and Ukrainians, the Russian people in all may decrease by hundreds of thousands or even millions.”
https://www.vox.com/2022/2/24/22948944/putin-ukraine-nazi-russia-speec
h-declare-war
Putin is such a wussy to say "the Russian people in all may decrease by hundreds of thousands or even millions." Putin should go big and forcefully say Millions of Russians will die in Ukraine's Death Camps. And then Putin should frown angrily. Maybe shake his fist on TV. I'd be totally convinced if I were Russian and Putin lies with confidence.
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This is why sociopaths too often succeed
Political scientist and author Brian Klaas says 'strongmen' leaders like Vladimir Putin activate a template in the human brain, causing many to gravitate toward them. Klaas also tells Reality Check's John Avlon about his research into sociopaths - how they are naturally drawn to power and all too often, succeed in getting it.
Video of the interview https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2022/02/24/strongmen-leaders-sociopaths-
putin-research-reality-check-orig.cnn
The book: Corruptible - Who Gets Power and How It Changes Us by Brian Klass, 2021
Free download at https://libgen.unblockit.cam/libraryp2/main/3EAD6E0DE13D662422680CA923
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Snake Island: Soldiers' defiant last words as Russian warship targets them
According to a purported audio exchange, as the Russians approached Snake Island, also known as Zmiinyi Island, the Russian officer says: "This is a military warship. This is a Russian military warship. I suggest you lay down your weapons and surrender to avoid bloodshed and needless casualties. Otherwise, you will be bombed."
A Ukrainian soldier responds: "Russian warship, go f*** yourself."
Those were the final known words heard from the island.
All 13 Ukrainian defenders were killed in a Russian bombardment Thursday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
"All border guards died heroically but did not give up. They will be awarded the title of Hero of Ukraine posthumously," Zelensky said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/snake-island-soldiers-defiant-las
t-words-as-russian-warship-targets-them/ar-AAUhq0Y?ocid=msedgntp
The places and people in the world that are righteous stand with them.
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Quote:Remember this story? Ashraf Ghani: Ex-Afghan president describes moment he fled the Taliban, Published 30 December 2021. Ashraf Ghani revealed that when he woke up on 15 August he had "no inkling" it would be his last day in Afghanistan.
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The places and people in the world that are righteous stand with them.
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The same story will be written about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Zelensky is gonna wake up with "no inkling" it is his last day in Ukraine. The next day, Putin's new President takes over Ukraine. Who knows if Putin will name himself as Ukrainian President?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59807737
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Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity
Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”
Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html
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Quote:Remember this story? Ashraf Ghani: Ex-Afghan president describes moment he fled the Taliban, Published 30 December 2021. Ashraf Ghani revealed that when he woke up on 15 August he had "no inkling" it would be his last day in Afghanistan.
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Originally posted by THG:
The places and people in the world that are righteous stand with them.
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The same story will be written about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Zelensky is gonna wake up with "no inkling" it is his last day in Ukraine. The next day, Putin's new President takes over Ukraine. Who knows if Putin will name himself as Ukrainian President?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59807737
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He better hurry. And even if he does, he will never hold it. Nobody's heart is in this but his. There is no long game. Hell, there is no short or medium game except death and destruction - Putin's true talent. I'll wager Ukrainians are even more emboldened to fight back now, at whatever cost. More so than before they ousted Yanukovych. They've had 8 years of "Not Putin" and they don't want to go back.
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Quote:Putin may have lofty ambitions, including actually running Ukraine, but all he really needs to do is either kill or chase the President of Ukraine out of the country. Then all Russian troops can withdraw. If Ukraine wants to elect a new President, Putin prevents an election from being held, which is easy. Putin only gets into a guerrilla war if he tries to do something more complicated than keep Ukraine out of NATO.
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He better hurry. And even if he does, he will never hold it. Nobody's heart is in this but his. There is no long game. Hell, there is no short or medium game except death and destruction - Putin's true talent. I'll wager Ukrainians are even more emboldened to fight back now, at whatever cost. More so than before they ousted Yanukovych. They've had 8 years of "Not Putin" and they don't want to go back.
I think the present government of Ukraine is already doomed, but in the aftermath the rest of the world needs to be harsh with Russia, not go back to business as usual, or else Putin will move on to absorbing the three NATO members (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania) into the Russian Federation. If Putin tries because the World kept right on trading with Russia after he murdered the government of Ukraine, NATO will have to re-read its charter: Article 5 The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all . . .
https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/stock_publications/
20120822_nato_treaty_en_light_2009.pdf
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Quote:Remember this story? Ashraf Ghani: Ex-Afghan president describes moment he fled the Taliban, Published 30 December 2021. Ashraf Ghani revealed that when he woke up on 15 August he had "no inkling" it would be his last day in Afghanistan.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
The places and people in the world that are righteous stand with them.
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The same story will be written about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Zelensky is gonna wake up with "no inkling" it is his last day in Ukraine. The next day, Putin's new President takes over Ukraine. Who knows if Putin will name himself as Ukrainian President?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59807737
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He better hurry. And even if he does, he will never hold it. Nobody's heart is in this but his. There is no long game. Hell, there is no short or medium game except death and destruction - Putin's true talent. I'll wager Ukrainians are even more emboldened to fight back now, at whatever cost. More so than before they ousted Yanukovych. They've had 8 years of "Not Putin" and they don't want to go back.
I do not want to work as hard as I would have to to lay out how Putin installs puppet regimes. This is just his latest attempt. And I agree with G. It will not hold.
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Russia has warned neighboring Finland on Friday of "serious military and political" repercussions if the Scandanavian nation opts to join NATO following the invasion of Ukraine.
Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said during a weekly briefing that a Finnish addition to NATO could have "detrimental consequences."
Finnish prime minister Sanna Marin said on Thursday that the debate within Finland on NATO membership "will change" following the start of a war in Ukraine.
Both Marin and Finland's president Sauli Niinisto strongly condemned Russia's attack on Ukraine.
"Despite prior warnings, this morning has come as a shock for all of us and our deepest feelings are with Ukrainian people," Niinisto said.
Niinisto ruled out the possibility of Finland reacting to the events by immediately applying for NATO membership.
"(In Finland) we are now seeing quick comments for applying today and joining tomorrow. These sensitive reactions are understandable but cannot really work in the real world," he said.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-698665
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More Republicans have a negative view of Joe Biden than of Vladimir Putin.
92% of Republicans had a negative view of Biden while 81% had a negative view of Putin.
Trump has repeatedly praised Putin and criticised Biden, on Thursday adapting a favorite golfing metaphor to claim the Russian leader was playing his counterpart “like a drum”.
In July 2018, at a summit in Helsinki, Trump and Putin conducted a meeting behind closed doors and with no close aides. What was discussed is not known.
Trump was impeached in 2020, for attempting to blackmail Ukraine, withholding military aid while requesting dirt on Biden. At trial in the Senate, only one Republican, Mitt Romney, voted to convict. The Utah senator also voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial, for inciting the insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/25/republicans-biden-puti
n-trump-fox-news-poll
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Putin urged Ukrainian soldiers to seize power from their civilian leaders — a democratically elected government Putin derided as “a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who’ve holed up in Kyiv and taken the entire Ukrainian nation hostage.”
Putin’s dark rhetoric about a government led by a Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelensky, who was elected in a landslide in 2019, is plainly delusional, but it was echoed that night on the state television channels that give him a stranglehold over Russia’s airwaves.
In contrast to Putin telling crazy lies from a TV studio far from the fighting, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky was standing in an instantly recognizable location, outside the president’s office on Bankova Street in central Kyiv, flanked by his closest advisers. Zelensky spoke calmly into his phone.
“Good evening everyone. The leader of the party is here,” Zelensky said, showing Davyd Arakhamia, who leads the president’s political party, Servant of the People. “The head of the presidential office is here,” he said, of Andriy Yermak, an adviser who tried to fend off demands from Rudy Giuliani for Zelensky to open sham investigations into Joe Biden in 2019, as then-President Donald Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine.
After noting that his prime minister, Denys Shmyhal, and another adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, were also there, Zelensky brought the phone back to himself and said, “The president is here.”
“We are all here. Our soldiers are here. The citizens of our country are here,” Zelensky said. “We are all here protecting our independence, our country, and it will continue to be this way. Glory to our defenders. Glory to our heroes. Glory to Ukraine.”
More at https://theintercept.com/2022/02/25/putin-floods-airwaves-lies-zelensk
y-punctures-social-media/
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The news is replete with stories about everybody cutting ties with Russia. Sports, universities, you name it.
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Signym, kiki, see the Zs on the vehicles? Russian baby, their getting their asses kicked.
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The world is with you Ukraine
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Riho Terras is a member of the European parliament and former Chief of Defense of Estonia. He doesn't give a source for the document (obviously, I guess).
Riho Terras @RihoTerras tweeted:
Intel from a Ukrainian officer about a meeting in Putin’s lair in Urals. Oligarchs convened there so no one would flee. Putin is furious, he thought that the whole war would be easy and everything would be done in 1-4 days.
Russians didn’t have a tactical plan. The war costs about $20 bln/day. There are rockets for 3-4 days at most, they use them sparingly. They lack weapons, the Tula and 2 Rotenberg plants can’t physically fulfil the orders for weapons. Rifles and ammo are the most they can do.
The next Russian weapons can be produced in 3-4 months – if even that. They have no raw materials. What was previously supplied mainly from Slovenia, Finland and Germany is now cut off.
If Ukraine manages to hold the Russians off for 10 days, then the Russians will have to enter negotiations. Because they have no money, weapons, or resources. Nevertheless, they are indifferent about the sanctions.
Alpha Spec Ops have been near Kyiv since the 18th February. The goal was to take Kyiv and instal a puppet regime. They are preparing provocations against innocent civilians – women and children – to sow panic. This is their trump card.
Russia’s whole plan relies on panic – that the civilians and armed forces surrender and Zelensky flees. They expect Kharkiv to surrender first so the other cities would follow suit to avoid bloodshed. The Russians are in shock of the fierce resistance they have encountered.
The Ukrainians must avoid panic! The missile strikes are for intimidation, the Russians fire them at random to “accidentally” hit residential buildings to make the attack look larger than it really is. Ukraine must stay strong and we must provide assistance! #StandWithUkraine
Spread this information so the world would realise how important it is to assist Ukraine right now and without hesitation! It is difficult for Russia, but it is difficult for Ukraine as well if the West does not provide meaningful support!
5:41 AM · Feb 26, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RihoTerras/status/1497537193346220038
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Famous Republicans doing Pro-Putin Propaganda:
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1497317331877441539
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"Trump is absolutely to blame for Russia’s Ukraine invasion. Trump’s decision to withhold the badly-needed military aid to Ukraine, unless they investigated Biden, hurt the country’s ability to defend itself— and emboldened Putin. It’s because of Trump’s corruption that we have a less capable, less prepared Ukraine."
- LT. COL. ALEXANDER VINDMAN,
Former director of European affairs on Trump’s National Security Council
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7n9dq/alexander-vindman-russia-ukrain
e-invasion
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Another famous Republican is pro-Putin.
Dinesh D'Souza @DineshDSouza tweeted:
The Biden Democrats say we have to choose. Either we are for them or we are against them. Okay, then, we are AGAINST. Moreover, I’ll go further and say they pose a far greater threat to our freedom and safety than #Putin. He’s the lesser evil. They are the greater one #Ukraine
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https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1496996150624370694
I hope whatever D’Souza got in exchange for his soul was worth it.
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Eight Republicans pick the worst possible place to celebrate July 4 -- in Moscow
“What does July 4th mean to me? Freedom,” Sen. Ron Johnson chirruped on Twitter on Independence Day.
For the Wisconsin Republican, it meant, specifically, the freedom to spend July 4 in Moscow with seven other Republican lawmakers posing for propaganda photos with Russian officials. On the same day it was reported in Britain that two more people had been poisoned by a Russian nerve agent British officials say came from Vladimir Putin’s regime. On the day after the Senate Intelligence Committee affirmed the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia interfered in the election to help Donald Trump.
Johnson and his colleagues apparently exercised their freedom not to meet with opposition or civil society figures (those whom the Putin regime has not imprisoned or killed), avoiding the risk of offending their hosts. They also exercised their freedom to soft-pedal their criticism of the Russian government, leading Russian politicians and state media to mock them as supplicants.
Yet despite this lavish display of the freedom to kowtow, they didn’t get the meeting they hoped for with Putin himself. He was busy, the Kremlin said.
There was a time, in the pre-Trump era, when Republicans would have erupted in fireworks over an Independence Day visit by submissive American lawmakers to the country the 2012 Republican presidential nominee called “our number one geopolitical foe.” (Relations have worsened considerably since then.) They called Jane Fonda “Hanoi Jane” and a traitor when she went to North Vietnam in 1972. After Democrats visited Iraq in 2002, Republicans ridiculed them as “Baghdad boys.”
So, what do we call these Red Square Republicans? My interlocutors on Twitter suggest “Moscow Mules.” Or, given the position they put themselves in before our masters in Moscow, perhaps they should be called the Prostrate Eight: Sens. Richard C. Shelby (Ala.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Hoeven (N.D.), John Neely Kennedy (La.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), John Thune (S.D.) and Johnson, plus Rep. Kay Granger (Tex.).
Their excellent adventure included a ballet performance of “Sleeping Beauty,” and fairy-tale notions pervaded their official meetings, too. “I’m not here today to accuse Russia of this or that or so forth,” Shelby told Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin. “I’m saying that we should all strive for a better relationship.”
Yes, let us strive for camaraderie with a government that attacks us with cyberwarfare, meddles in our elections, denies entry to American officials who are critical of Moscow, destabilizes Europe and the Middle East, kills critics at home and abroad, occupies its neighbors’ land and shoots down the occasional passenger jet. Or, as Shelby put it, “this, that or so forth.”
One can hardly wait to see the lawmakers’ next codel: meeting with wounded Taliban fighters on Veterans Day? A Memorial Day wreath-laying for fallen members of Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard? Flag Day at a street protest in Tehran?
Soon they’ll be meeting with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un and praising him as talented, honest and trustworthy. Oh, wait.
“I asked our friends in Russia not to interfere in our elections this year,” one of the Moscow Mules, Kennedy, said after their meetings. “I asked them to exit Ukraine and allow Ukraine to self-determine. I asked for the same thing in Crimea. I asked for their help in bringing peace to Syria. And I asked them not to allow Iran to gain a foothold in Syria.”
Apparently he didn’t say “pretty please with a cherry on top,” because the Russians were dismissive of the Americans’ pleading.
Duma member Vyacheslav Nikonov said that of the many meetings he has had with American lawmakers, this “was one of the easiest ones in my life,” The Post’s Anton Troianovski reports.
The Post’s Karoun Demirjian reports that state television in Russia mocked the meek Americans. One Russian military expert said, “We need to look down at them and say: You came because you needed to, not bec
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Putin urged Ukrainian soldiers to seize power from their civilian leaders — a democratically elected government Putin derided as “a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who’ve holed up in Kyiv and taken the entire Ukrainian nation hostage.”
Putin’s dark rhetoric about a government led by a Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelensky, who was elected in a landslide in 2019, is plainly delusional, but it was echoed that night on the state television channels that give him a stranglehold over Russia’s airwaves.
In contrast to Putin telling crazy lies from a TV studio far from the fighting, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky was standing in an instantly recognizable location, outside the president’s office on Bankova Street in central Kyiv, flanked by his closest advisers. Zelensky spoke calmly into his phone.
“Good evening everyone. The leader of the party is here,” Zelensky said, showing Davyd Arakhamia, who leads the president’s political party, Servant of the People. “The head of the presidential office is here,” he said, of Andriy Yermak, an adviser who tried to fend off demands from Rudy Giuliani for Zelensky to open sham investigations into Joe Biden in 2019, as then-President Donald Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine.
After noting that his prime minister, Denys Shmyhal, and another adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, were also there, Zelensky brought the phone back to himself and said, “The president is here.”
“We are all here. Our soldiers are here. The citizens of our country are here,” Zelensky said. “We are all here protecting our independence, our country, and it will continue to be this way. Glory to our defenders. Glory to our heroes. Glory to Ukraine.”
More at https://theintercept.com/2022/02/25/putin-floods-airwaves-lies-zelensk
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
That video will live in infamy. One of the most understated yet impactful videos ever made.
Putin4brains doesn’t realize how small/connected the world is now. Everyone is watching.
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Putin urged Ukrainian soldiers to seize power from their civilian leaders — a democratically elected government Putin derided as “a gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who’ve holed up in Kyiv and taken the entire Ukrainian nation hostage.”
Putin’s dark rhetoric about a government led by a Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelensky, who was elected in a landslide in 2019, is plainly delusional, but it was echoed that night on the state television channels that give him a stranglehold over Russia’s airwaves.
In contrast to Putin telling crazy lies from a TV studio far from the fighting, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky was standing in an instantly recognizable location, outside the president’s office on Bankova Street in central Kyiv, flanked by his closest advisers. Zelensky spoke calmly into his phone.
“Good evening everyone. The leader of the party is here,” Zelensky said, showing Davyd Arakhamia, who leads the president’s political party, Servant of the People. “The head of the presidential office is here,” he said, of Andriy Yermak, an adviser who tried to fend off demands from Rudy Giuliani for Zelensky to open sham investigations into Joe Biden in 2019, as then-President Donald Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine.
After noting that his prime minister, Denys Shmyhal, and another adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, were also there, Zelensky brought the phone back to himself and said, “The president is here.”
“We are all here. Our soldiers are here. The citizens of our country are here,” Zelensky said. “We are all here protecting our independence, our country, and it will continue to be this way. Glory to our defenders. Glory to our heroes. Glory to Ukraine.”
More at https://theintercept.com/2022/02/25/putin-floods-airwaves-lies-zelensk
y-punctures-social-media/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
That video will live in infamy. One of the most understated yet impactful videos ever made.
Putin4brains doesn’t realize how small/connected the world is now. Everyone is watching.
I really hope this guy survives this.
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BP cutting ties with Russia even though it will cost them billions, huge.
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I've heard Putin has changed the established world order. Yes, he has and it's for the better. The world has come together in an unprecedented way and decided never again. They are bitch slapping Putin from every direction. Their message to Putin, common my pretty.
I can't empathize it enough that China is watching and seeing what happens when you attack your neighbors unprovoked.
It's huge...
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Signym kiki say it ain't so
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Russian War In Ukraine - Heavy Clashes In Kharkiv • Russian Vehicles Abandoned Afer Ambush
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Scholz pledges €100 billion for German military, end to Russian energy exports
A turning point in the history of our continent. That's how Chancellor Olaf Scholz described Russia's war against Ukraine. Speaking to a special session of parliament, the German leader announced a raft of policy changes that would have been unthinkable just days ago. Germany will drastically strengthen its military and move quickly to eliminate its reliance on Russian energy exports. He put the blame squarely on Russian President Vladimir Putin - who he said had brought decades of peaceful coexistence to an end. Here's some of what he said.
Holding out in Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said Russia's military assault verges on genocide - and he's called for Russia to be stripped of its seat on the UN Security Council. Moscow's forces targeted civilian infrastructure overnight, including gas pipelines - as they stepped up efforts to push further into Ukraine.
Moscow's forces have met stiff resistance as they attempt to push further into Ukraine. The mayor of Kyiv says the capital is holding its defense lines and there are no Russian troops in the city. And after reports of heavy fighting in eastern Kharkiv, the regional governor says Ukrainian forces have retaken full control of the city. Russia's latest attacks have targeted civilian infrastructure and the military.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine has sent tens of thousands of people fleeing their homes since Thursday. Huge crowds have been waiting at train stations to travel to the border and cross into neighboring countries. Scenes from Lviv in western Ukraine show the fear and frustration: There's not enough space on the trains to carry everyone to safety. Men are forced to say goodbye to their families, as they are not allowed to leave because they've been called up to fight. Many of the refugees are headed to Poland.
Ukraine is doing its best to repel the Russian attack by training civilians to fight. Support from the US and other NATO members has also bolstered national defenses. But few believe Ukraine is a match for its much larger neighbor.
Taking active and reserve troops together, Kyiv can draw on more than 1 million men and women. Russia has more than three million. Ukraine has less than 2,500 tanks, compared to Russia's 13,000.
And in the air, Ukraine has just 67 attack aircraft in contrast to Russia's 1,500.
In Berlin a demonstration calling for restoring peace in Ukraine is underway, with estimates of 20,000 or more people taking part in the protest.
The demonstration is organized by a variety of groups including workers' unions, religious groups and environmental organizations. Protesters are calling on Russia to immediately withdraw from Ukraine and to respect democracy and human rights. In the past days there have been numerous demonstrations across the world in support of Ukraine and demanding an immediate end to all violence.
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Thousands Of Georgians Protest Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine
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‘Sign of weakness’: Ex-CIA director on Putin’s move
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Ted's been looking forward to this for years.
He's never jacked off so much in one day before.
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Former CIA director: 'It’s going abysmally' for Putin
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EU's Antitrust Charge Against Gazprom: Another Putin Disaster
"The trashing of Russia’s most valuable economic asset adds to Putin’s growing list of major policy disasters. By attacking Ukraine, he has alienated the Ukrainian people for generations to come. By saber rattling beyond the borders of Ukraine, he has rejuvenated NATO and given it new purpose. Putin has succeeded in pushing traditional sympathizers in the European community, such as Germany’s foreign minister; they’ve decided that the danger he poses trumps their business interests. Instead of raising Russia’s prestige and national pride, he has turned the country into a pariah state with a tottering economy and declining living standards."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2015/04/20/eus-antitru
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Ted might be the only person left keeping CNN from dying off.
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Microsoft says cyberattacks targeting Ukraine 'raise serious concerns' under Geneva Convention
As hacking by nation-states has grown more pervasive in recent years, Microsoft has long called for the creation of a new Geneva Convention governing cyberspace.
But now, for the first time, the tech giant appears to be suggesting that cyberattacks tied to the war in Ukraine could potentially be considered war crimes under existing international law.
On Monday, Microsoft (MSFT) said that in the hours leading up to Russia's invasion, it detected a new form of "offensive and destructive" software targeting Ukrainian institutions. Microsoft also said it has observed a barrage of cyberattacks zeroing in on Ukraine's agricultural, commercial, finance and energy sectors.
"These attacks on civilian targets raise serious concerns under the Geneva Convention, and we have shared information with the Ukrainian government about each of them," wrote Microsoft president Brad Smith in a blog post.
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World's biggest shipping company suspends container shipments to and from Russia
Maersk will pause Russian shipments in the wake of the country's invasion and Western sanctions.The suspension will apply to all goods except food, medical supplies and humanitarian equipment.
The shipping giant said it was already starting to see operational delays in the global supply chain.
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OnlyFans won't let sex workers from Russia make any money online anymore.
How very Liberal of you, Leftist ran OnlyFans.
In a country that already had it rough, they're seeing inflation at almost 50% and now you cut off the only source of income a not small amount of Russian women who have absolutely no responsibility for or personal stake in current events had.
Good job. Keep being the "good guys" everyone.
Pats on the back all around.
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Russia's Invasion of Ukraine Will Only Make It Weaker
Why conquest makes the conqueror weaker.
The Ukrainian miracle may not last. Vladimir Putin’s attempt to win a quick victory on the cheap, seizing major cities with relatively light forces, has faced major resistance, but the tanks and big guns are moving up. And despite the incredible heroism of Ukraine’s people, it’s still more likely than not that the Russian flag will eventually be planted amid the rubble of Kyiv and Kharkiv.
But even if that happens, the Russian Federation will be left weaker and poorer than it was before the invasion. Conquest doesn’t pay.
Why not? If you go back in history, there are plenty of examples of powers that enriched themselves through military prowess. The Romans surely profited from the conquest of the Hellenistic world, as did Spain from the conquest of the Aztecs and the Incas.
But the modern world is different — where by “modern,” I mean at least the past century and a half.
The British author Norman Angell published his famous tract “The Great Illusion” in 1909, arguing that war had become obsolete. His book was widely misinterpreted as saying that war could no longer happen, a proposition proved horribly wrong over the next two generations. What Angell actually said was that even the victors in war could no longer derive any profit from their success.
And he was surely right about that. We’re all thankful that the Allies prevailed in World War II, but Britain emerged as a diminished power, suffering through years of austerity as it struggled to overcome a shortage of foreign exchange. Even the United States had a harder postwar adjustment than many realize, experiencing a bout of price increases that for a time pushed inflation above 20 percent.
And conversely, even utter defeat didn’t prevent Germany and Japan from eventually achieving unprecedented prosperity.
Why and when did conquest become unprofitable? Angell argued that everything changed with the rise of a “vital interdependence” among nations, “cutting athwart international frontiers,” which he suggested was “largely the work of the past forty years” — beginning around 1870. That seems like a fair guess: 1870 was roughly when railroads, steamships and telegraphs made possible the creation of what some economists call the first global economy.
In such a global economy, it’s hard to conquer another country without cutting that country — and yourself — off from the international division of labor, not to mention the international financial system, at great cost. We can see that dynamic happening to Russia as we speak.
Angell also emphasized the limits to confiscation in a modern economy: You can’t just seize industrial assets the way preindustrial conquerors could seize land, because arbitrary confiscation destroys the incentives and sense of security an advanced society needs to stay productive. Again, history vindicated his analysis. For a while, Nazi Germany occupied nations with a combined prewar gross domestic product roughly twice its own — but despite ruthless exploitation, the occupied territories seem to have paid for only about 30 percent of the German war effort, in part because many of the economies Germany tried to exploit collapsed under the burden.
An aside: Isn’t it extraordinary and horrible to find ourselves in a situation where Hitler’s economic failures tell us useful things about future prospects? But that’s where we are. Thanks, Putin.
I’d add two more factors that explain why conquest is futile.
The first is that modern war uses an incredible amount of resources. Pre-modern armies used limited amounts of ammunition and could, to some extent, live off the land. As late as 1864, Union General William Tecumseh Sherman could cut loose from his supply lines and march across Georgia carrying only 20 days’ worth of rations. But modern armies require huge amounts of ammunition, replacement parts and, above all, fuel for their vehicles. Indeed, the latest assessment from Britain’s Ministry of Defense says t
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My only response to that post is good on you for giving an archived link and not generating any ad revenue for NYT propaganda and lies.
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OnlyFans won't let sex workers from Russia make any money online anymore.
How very Liberal of you, Leftist ran OnlyFans.
In a country that already had it rough, they're seeing inflation at almost 50% and now you cut off the only source of income a not small amount of Russian women who have absolutely no responsibility for or personal stake in current events had.
Good job. Keep being the "good guys" everyone.
Pats on the back all around.
On Sunday evening, OnlyFans said it had been able to restore account activity for creators in all countries. “Their accounts will have full functionalities as long as we continue to have payment methods to support them,” the spokesperson said. “We were not terminating or suspending any creator accounts based on the creator’s location, and we are doing everything we can to support our community.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/onlyfans-russia-puti
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New western sanctions are isolating Putin, devastating Russian economy
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OnlyFans won't let sex workers from Russia make any money online anymore.
How very Liberal of you, Leftist ran OnlyFans.
In a country that already had it rough, they're seeing inflation at almost 50% and now you cut off the only source of income a not small amount of Russian women who have absolutely no responsibility for or personal stake in current events had.
Good job. Keep being the "good guys" everyone.
Pats on the back all around.
On Sunday evening, OnlyFans said it had been able to restore account activity for creators in all countries. “Their accounts will have full functionalities as long as we continue to have payment methods to support them,” the spokesperson said. “We were not terminating or suspending any creator accounts based on the creator’s location, and we are doing everything we can to support our community.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/onlyfans-russia-puti
n-ukraine-invasion-1313259/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
lol
OK. An article from Leftist shill magazine Rolling Stone.
If they are giving the Russian women their accounts back, it's only because they received the correct amount of blowback they should have for doing what they did.
This is just more evidence of the death of Cancel Culture.
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Holy shit, the Russians can't shoot straight. And they certainly can't plan out an invasion. They are completely incompetent, bungling unskilled fools. Comrade Signym, you’ve been totally wrong all these years when posting again and again how they were the best fighting force on the planet. Wow were you mistaken. It's all that propaganda you suck up.
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How dangerous was Russia's nuclear plant strike?
BANGKOK (AP) — Europe's largest nuclear power plant was hit by Russian shelling early Friday, sparking a fire and raising fears of a disaster that could affect all of central Europe for decades, like the 1986 Chernobyl meltdown.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/explainer-how-dangerous-was-russi
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Photo of Jewish Ukrainian With Machine Gun Goes Viral: 'Shalom Kyiv!'
An image of a Jewish man holding a machine gun has been widely shared on social media as a defiant riposte to the claim by Vladimir Putin that his forces were engaged in the "denazification" of Ukraine.
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General McCaffrey: Putin Just Signed Up For A ‘Ten Year Event’
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Just what we fuckin needed.
Democrats are war mongering cancer.
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Ukrainian official tells 'Mothers of Russia, come to Kiev and take your sons' while releasing a list of captured Russian prisoners
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Putin announced today that he is a James Bond movie Supervillain
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Saturday that any country that sought to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine would be considered by Moscow to have entered the conflict.
Putin added that imposing a no-fly zone would have “colossal and catastrophic consequences not only for Europe but also the whole world.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-fly-zone-would-be-world-catastrophe-w
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Last surviving Nuremberg Trials prosecutor: Putin should be 'behind bars'
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Zelensky says Russian forces are 'tired' and 'demoralized' as he spoke about the future of Ukraine after its 'victory' in war
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Monday that Russian troops attacking his country are "tired" and "demoralized" as he gave hope to the future of Ukraine, saying it will take "victory" in the war.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelensky-says-russian-forces-are-
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I was looking for reviews of violent movies where the underdog, Ukraine, eventually triumphs. Maybe the reviews will give insight about what is going on inside Putin's brain? I found that movie. Ukrainian President Zelenskyy is in the role Dustin Hoffman played in Straw Dogs (1971) and Putin is all the actors that end up dead-dead-dead, assuming the Ukraine/Russia War has a suitable ending for Hollywood:
Paul D. Zimmerman of Newsweek stated, "It is hard to imagine that Sam Peckinpah will ever make a better movie than Straw Dogs. It flawlessly expresses his primitive vision of violence — his belief that manhood requires rites of violence, that home and hearth are inviolate and must be defended by blood, that a man must conquer other men to prove his courage and hold on to his woman."
Gene Siskel of the Chicago Tribune gave the film 3 out of 4 stars and wrote that even though he disagreed with Peckinpah's apparent worldview that "Man is an animal, and his passion for destroying his own kind lies just beneath his skin," it was nevertheless "a superbly made movie. Peckinpah creates a mood of impending violence with great skill."
Charles Champlin of the Los Angeles Times called it "an overpowering piece of storytelling, certain to remind every viewer of the wells of primal emotion lurking within himself, beneath the fragile veneer of civilized control. It is, I think, a better picture than 'The Wild Bunch,' less ritualistic and less appallingly graphic in its violence, and in fact less cynical."
Among later assessments, Entertainment Weekly in 1997 wrote that the contemporary interpretation was that of a "serious exploration of humanity's ambivalent relationship with the dark side", but it now seems an "exploitation bloodbath".
Nick Schager of Slant Magazine rated it four out of four stars and wrote, "Sitting through Peckinpah's controversial classic is not unlike watching a lit fuse make its slow, inexorable way toward its combustible destination — the taut build-up is as shocking and vicious as its fiery conclusion is inevitable."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Dogs_(1971_film)#Critical_response
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Do you ever get the feeling that Putin is a creature that only Hollywood could invent? That he is a villain for James Bond to kill? Putin did threaten to nuke any country that imposed a no-fly zone over Ukraine. Threats such as that are exactly what scriptwriters use to make sure that even the dumbest person in the theater understands who the supervillain is and why they have to die. Too bad that reality isn't as fast as a movie. In "No Time to Die", Bond kills Safin in under two hours.
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It is very apparent that the news media and UN hasn't grasped just how crazy and evil Putin is, but then again, Trump's absolute insanity wasn't grasped either. I guess being professionally neutral makes it impossible for the media to tell the extremely unsubtle differences between sane and dangerously crazy people.
Those two guys, Putin and Trump, will be running freely around, making evil plots, for many more years, mostly because people reading mainstream media can NOT make up their minds about those two. In contrast, a Hollywood movie would make it very clear who is evil and deserves death.
No Time To Die: Why Rami Malek Falls Short as a Bond Villain
Daniel Craig's James Bond send-off, No Time To Die, introduced Rami Malek as the villainous Safin, but here's why his portrayal falls short.
https://www.cbr.com/no-time-to-die-safin-falls-short-bond-villain/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Do you ever get the feeling that Putin is a creature that only Hollywood could invent? That he is a villain for James Bond to kill? Putin did threaten to nuke any country that imposed a no-fly zone over Ukraine. Threats such as that are exactly what scriptwriters use to make sure that even the dumbest person in the theater understands who the supervillain is and why they have to die. Too bad that reality isn't as fast as a movie. In "No Time to Die", Bond kills Safin in under two hours.
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Originally posted by THG:
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It is very apparent that the news media and UN hasn't grasped just how crazy and evil Putin is, but then again, Trump's absolute insanity wasn't grasped either. I guess being professionally neutral makes it impossible for the media to tell the extremely unsubtle differences between sane and dangerously crazy people.
Those two guys, Putin and Trump, will be running freely around, making evil plots, for many more years, mostly because people reading mainstream media can NOT make up their minds about those two. In contrast, a Hollywood movie would make it very clear who is evil and deserves death.
No Time To Die: Why Rami Malek Falls Short as a Bond Villain
Daniel Craig's James Bond send-off, No Time To Die, introduced Rami Malek as the villainous Safin, but here's why his portrayal falls short.
https://www.cbr.com/no-time-to-die-safin-falls-short-bond-villain/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Movies scripts that are developed come from the realm of our imaginations. This abomination of Putins fits within that realm. It’s just so horrific most refuse to believe something like this could happen until it does.
The Ukrainian people are a good example of this. Many say they just didn’t believe Putin would do something like this. These same people should learn the definition of sadist, psychopath, an unstable and aggressive person. Anybody who would and could lead the way dictators lead, are sick.
And those who shill for them, a swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others, like sig and kiki are sick as well.
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Quote:The optimistic stories people believe are what get them into trouble. In contrast, I tell stories about the worst that can happen, and prepare for the worst by always buckling my seat-belt (car crash is the worst) and being vaccinated (internal organ failure is the worst), which is how I avoid the worst consequences happening.
Originally posted by THG:
Movies scripts that are developed come from the realm of our imaginations. This abomination of Putins fits within that realm. It’s just so horrific most refuse to believe something like this could happen until it does.
The Ukrainian people are a good example of this. Many say they just didn’t believe Putin would do something like this. These same people should learn the definition of sadist, psychopath, an unstable and aggressive person. Anybody who would and could lead the way dictators lead, are sick.
And those who shill for them, a swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others, like sig and kiki are sick as well.
T
If EU and USA tell themselves optimistic stories that things will go back to normal, they are doubling their troubles. Instead, they and Putin should tell themselves pessimistic and unhappy stories such as this one from Foreign Affairs:
What If Russia Loses?
A Defeat for Moscow Won’t Be a Clear Victory for the West
Had the government fallen quickly, Putin could have claimed that he was right all along: because Ukraine had not been willing or able to defend itself, it was not a real country—just like he had said.
But Putin will be unable to win this war on his preferred terms. Indeed, there are several ways in which he could ultimately lose. He could mire his military in a costly and futile occupation of Ukraine, decimating the morale of Russia’s soldiers, consuming resources, and delivering nothing in return but the hollow ring of Russian greatness and a neighboring country reduced to poverty and chaos. He could create some degree of control over parts of eastern and southern Ukraine and probably Kyiv, while fighting a Ukrainian insurgency operating from the west and engaged in guerrilla warfare across the country—a scenario that would be reminiscent of the partisan warfare that took place in Ukraine during World War II. At the same time, he would preside over the gradual economic degradation of Russia, its growing isolation, and its increasing inability to supply the wealth on which great powers rely. And, most consequentially, Putin could lose the support of the Russian people and elites, on whom he depends to prosecute the war and maintain his hold on power, even though Russia is not a democracy.
In this war, there are no winners
Putin is unlikely to lose the war in Ukraine on the battlefield. But he could lose when the fighting mostly ends and the question becomes, What now? The unintended and underestimated consequences of this senseless war will be difficult for Russia to stomach. And the lack of political planning for the day after—comparable to the planning failures of the U.S. invasion of Iraq—will do its part to make this an unwinnable war.
Ukraine will not be able to turn back the Russian military on Ukrainian soil. The Russian military is in another league from that of Ukraine, and Russia is of course a nuclear power, whereas Ukraine is not. So far the Ukrainian military has fought with admirable determination and skill, but the real obstacle to Russian advances has been the nature of the war itself. Through aerial bombardment and missile attacks, Russia could level the cities of Ukraine, thereby achieving dominance over the battle space. It could try a small-scale use of nuclear weapons to the same effect. Should Putin make this decision, there is nothing in the Russian system that could stop him. “They made a desert,” the Roman historian Tacitus wrote of Rome's warfare tact
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You say you always tell stories with the worst possible outcomes SECOND. Yes, I’ve noticed that. Your posts on current events also reflect that philosophy. Not all real-life existential happenings end badly. So, it is possible your analysis maybe mistaken at times because you are predisposed to see things negatively. That would certainly influence someones’ search patterns.
One thing that comes across is your complete understanding of right and wrong. And you always, are unquestionably on the side of right.
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Quote:Here is Putin's article, written before the invasion, about his glorious victory. Truly, the man is pathologically optimistic. Trump is same way, always declaring victory.
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You say you always tell stories with the worst possible outcomes SECOND. Yes, I’ve noticed that.
T
https:// www. youtube.com/post/Ugkx38sXqq5a28LipXZMn6WX0qB1bNXCfc65
Russia bragging that it won in Ukraine:
Ria Novosti accidentally published their intended "victory article" a few days ago, for when Russia annexes Ukraine. They quickly deleted it upon realizing the mistake, but as always, people caught it in time. Below I'm pasting the full article for your enjoyment.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/ros
siya-1775162336.html
A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later.
Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia - for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.
The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation - when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that "only Ukraine is the real Russia," or to gnash one's teeth helplessly, remembering the times when "we lost Ukraine." Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade - recoding, de-Russification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum.
Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. In what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus )? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.
And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, B
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One thing that comes across is your complete understanding of right and wrong. And you always, are unquestionably on the side of right.
So you agree that everyone should kill their bosses and take everything they own, do you?
This post tells us everything we need to know about you, Ted.
You never fail to re-earn your nickname, Mr. Bundy.
You really ought to stop dealing in absolutes with everything. It will get you into trouble.
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Me: "Remember Covid?"
Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"
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Quote:I can see where you are going with this, 6ix. The Ukrainians should NOT kill their bosses, who happen to be young Russians doing a job for Putin. Instead, do as 6ix would advise, since it worked out so well for him: Ukrainians should stop killing those poor Russians and do the right thing by going into hiding at home until the war is over because pacifism is an irresistible force that evil can never stand up against for very long. If you have to wait for your pacifism to win over the Russians, increase you alcoholic intake because that makes waiting go quicker. Eventually, the Russians will see that you are rewarded for being a drunk pussy. They will offer cigarettes to calm you until the rest of Ukrainians surrender to their fate as you have.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So you agree that everyone should kill their bosses and take everything they own, do you?
This post tells us everything we need to know about you, Ted.
You never fail to re-earn your nickname, Mr. Bundy.
You really ought to stop dealing in absolutes with everything. It will get you into trouble.
In America, bosses are just like Russian bosses. Both respect soft and compliant employees who smoke, drink and tremble before the bosses' awesomeness. Pacifism is rewarded with pay raises and promotions to easier work and your wife will love you more than ever. But there is something for Pacifists to fight against: the tyranny of Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau and his Nazi-Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 6ix has got a thing about Justin Trudeau and Covid-19 vaccines:
"The Freedom Convoy, Exposing Democrat Hypocrisy, Exposing Legacy Media Lies, Crumbling Mandates, The Death of Tyranny via Covid"
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64782
Oh, Justin... You've made a grave miscalculation...
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64862
The Ukrainians can learn that true bravery is 6ix's brand of bravery at the keyboard. Ukrainians should stop killing Russians, put down the guns, and go to their keyboards.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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AFP News Agency @AFP tweeted
#BREAKING Putin says will not send conscripts or reservists to Ukraine
Which means he will...
Which means they are already there
Translation = Putin will send everything to Ukraine, even kitchen sink
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1500943110477647872
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Someone here thinks that because I said TWO is always on the righteous side of an issue, I always agree with his solution to dealing with those on the wrong side of the issue. I do not.
A simple example. Being nice to others is the right side of an issue. Killing those who are not is not an acceptable solution in making sure everyone is. Holy shit, figure it out dummy.
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