Abortion
POSTED BY: cartoon
UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 03:33
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I've been away so I'm dragging out some old threads
ShinyEd,
Did you ever wonder WHY I called you a douche bag? Do you mistakenly believe it's because you expressed an opinion? In case you ever did wonder, it's because you lie and hate women.
The first part:
Quote:It's actually NOT the 2nd largest advertiser, or even the 20th. Automobile is much larger. And the ANTI-abortion section of the yellow pages over here - heathen Los Angeles - is slightly over 1/2 page, while the abortion section is a small less than 1/4 page.
America markets abortion like vendors at the stadium ( 2nd largest advertiser in Yellow Pages ) Hey... Abortion ! Abortion ! Abortion !"
The second part:
Quote:WHAT exactly are you saying here? That you hate women? White, male, uneducated, misogynist ... you fit a profile all right. 'Douche bag' was letting you off easy.
No waiting...come on in today...baby-free tonite!
No guilt
No money
No boyfriend/husband...been foolin' 'round?
No scruples...you had good reasons to fuck
No morals...well you are over 8...
No clue who's the proud papa...we luv orgies' by-products
No idea when....we yank it whenever it was made
No age limit...40-90 our specialty...just one shot of our special clamato juice fixes ya right up
No age too low...we won't tell your mommy & daddy...dont worry
No self-esteem....hey now your'e popular I bet
No ability to say no...better to just let the boys get their way...why resist the fun?
No time limit...we got 8 months 30 days...ok!
Cartoon,
"Shiny, better get used to it. Anyone who disagrees with their ideology is a "troll".
Is the problem that you didn't you read ShinyEd's hate-filled post, or that it's so in-line with what you really think you never noticed?
And then of course there's Cankersore who found ShinyEd's post "quite funny".
ShinyEd, Cartoon - when you have Cankersore on your side don't you feel just a little diseased?
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Causal,
Quote:I thought this was pretty one-sided. And it's a trend that shows up in your various posts.
I suppose suggesting that women who don't want babies should either use effective birth-control or just not have sex is probably not going to get much of a hearing.
The other is you keep talking about morality. The problem with morality is that it's a mostly a construct, and leads to all sorts of self-righteous behavior:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070125/ap_on_re_mi_ea/jordan_honor_killin
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Father kills daughter; doubted virginity
AMMAN, Jordan - A Jordanian man fatally shot his 17-year-old daughter whom he suspected of having sex despite a medical exam that proved her chastity, an official said Thursday. The man surrendered to police hours after the killing, saying he had done it for family honor.
This would not be an 'honourable' thing to do if it were not a moral and religious one as well.
I suggest we keep 'morality' out of law.
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People have to get counseling before the procedure.
It seems obvious that there would be some level of trauma. Did the study look into whether or not the women voluntarily had the abortions? That would probably play a pretty big role in how one mentally functioned in the aftermath.
Lower socioeconomic classes account for the largest percentage of abortions (according to something I saw the other day . . .it might be old) and I think that would be something very hard to control for with any level of accuracy because it's often the case that these people have more problems than others anyway.
That said, the findings aren't surprising (and seem fairly obvious), but also doesn't take into accound a myriad of other conditions that surround this decision.
Off-topic mini rant: Effective sex education and free and easy access to contraception for EVERYONE no questions asked will reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and make the need for studies like this and the ensuing debate mostly pointless.
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I'm fairly certain a fetus can't inhale anything.
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So, speaking of ppl who want to take control of a woman's body....
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A college student who told police she had been raped was jailed for two days after officers found an old warrant accusing her of failing to pay restitution for a 2003 theft arrest. {The victim said that} while she was behind bars, a jail worker refused to give her a second dose of the morning-after contraceptive pill because of the worker's religious convictions the college student's attorney said.
The 21-year-old woman was released Monday only after attorney Vic Moore reported her plight to the local media... Moore said the young woman was not allowed to take the second emergency contraceptive pill until Monday afternoon, a day late, (only) after reporters called police and jail officials... Moore said his client said she paid the fine for what he described as a childish mistake. He didn't have details of that arrest. The woman has no criminal history as an adult, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/30/jailed.rapevictim.ap/index.html
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, speaking of ppl who want to take control of a woman's body....Quote:
A college student who told police she had been raped was jailed for two days after officers found an old warrant accusing her of failing to pay restitution for a 2003 theft arrest. {The victim said that} while she was behind bars, a jail worker refused to give her a second dose of the morning-after contraceptive pill because of the worker's religious convictions the college student's attorney said.
The 21-year-old woman was released Monday only after attorney Vic Moore reported her plight to the local media... Moore said the young woman was not allowed to take the second emergency contraceptive pill until Monday afternoon, a day late, (only) after reporters called police and jail officials... Moore said his client said she paid the fine for what he described as a childish mistake. He didn't have details of that arrest. The woman has no criminal history as an adult, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/30/jailed.rapevictim.ap/index.html
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
That's sick. Add that jail officer to the list of pharmacists that I think should find different jobs.
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"That's sick. Add that jail officer to the list of pharmacists that I think should find different jobs."
That's so polite. I would have said - should be made to find different professions entirely.
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I'm feeling oddly civilized today.
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I have a simple rule on this very specific issue.
IF - you, as a pharmacist, decide to make critical health decisions for someone else based on your own personal perspectives.
THEN - I, as a patient or representative therof, will make some critical health decisions for you, based on my personal perspectives.
Translated: Deny a rape victim morning after pills, and I shall drag you over the counter and pound you silly.
It's one thing to say "I don't feel comfortable with that, here. talk to (other employee) about it" - that's fine and dandy, it's another to refuse entire in a situation where every hour counts and the next nearest pharmacy is almost 2 hours away.
It's not for them to make those kind of decisions for anyone else, no more than a cabbie (and we fired one for this) refusing to accept passengers due to their nationality - if you put yourself in a job where the question is going to come up, and you KNOW it's going to come up, I have to question the motives behind it.
I've had one female friend so far ask me to come along in such a case, because she feared such a refusal, and knew where I stood on it, thankfully there was no trouble, but this particular issue bothers me a lot and I have zero intention of being nice about it should it happen.
This is a pretty touchy issue with me, having had a bawling, distraught friend clinging to me, terrified that she'd be placed in that situation brought forth just how awful it can be.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Casual - I have to say, on the basis of my moral compass, I think we both see the needle pointing North when we're both facing the same direction. I think you and your wife have a very sensible and responsible stance on this issue, you don't force your opinions on other people in other situations, and you have a real grasp on exactly what it means to have sex, and what the consequenses of that can be. I tip my hat to ya. When you have kids, I'm pretty sure you will be more than adequite role models for them.
Desktop Hippie - I'm not trying to get down on you here, because you seem like a real nice girl from other threads I've seen, though I don't believe we've ever spoken before. I'm sorry I gotta post to you like this as a first time post to you, but I have to say that I had to choke back the vomit several times reading your posts when you make it sound as if you wouldn't have had any part in making that THING in your womb that you might choose to murder, for fear of death among other reasons less extreme such as you're not ready for kids, financially or mentally.
Maybe the kid didn't feel like being murdered either, but it had about 2-3 years before it would have been able to say any words like "Mommy" and probably at least another 2 years after that before it could put any rational thoughts into sentences like "Please don't kill me Mommy". I think people who feel the way you do about the issue should have their tubes tied before they are forced to make the decision to kill a pre-birth baby, and I recommend that option to you very strongly.
You mention that you make the choice to get in a car or take a swim when you weigh the risks, but somehow you feel and try to justify that having a baby wasn't your choice. Sorry hon, but just because you climaxed and smoked that cigarette doesn't mean that it's all over now and having a baby is a seperate event. Next time you have sex with random Joe Studly without getting the tubes tied, try to remember that the possibility of having a baby is very much intertwined with your decision to rock him and the moment he penetrates you, you've already made that decision to go for that swim or get in that car.
Respectfully.... Ahem....
Frem - Ahhhh good old Frem. My beacon of hope. My one unfaltering voice of sanity in these oftentimes dark and abysmal threads. You know I like you more and more every time I see you. There is only one single real arguement against the Anti-Abortion legislation which would cover any of the extreme situations which may be argued on behalf of the pro-abortionists, and once again you nailed it on the head.
That arguement, as you already know, is freedom of choice.
That's what's great about this country, or at least it was anyways. I can think that somebody who casually has sex with anybody and has an abortion is a selfish murderer and they can think that pregnancy is going to kill them and, rather than chose to take proper precautions beforehand, they can justify having an abortion because it changes their body, it's too tough financially, or it could kill them.
If we just let people kill their babies at their own discression (like we've been doing for how long now?) without making a Federal case out of it, well then I don't reckon I'd be hearing much about it now, would I? Personally, I think almost every reason given for abortion is a bad reason, but it's not often you're going to change anybody's mind once they've committed. They WILL do it illegally if you tell them not to and then I'll have to hear about that on the news too.
Let's take the whole morality arguement out of it completely. Government has no right legislating morality. What's moral to one religion is sin to another anyhow, so with what basis would we even begin to make those distinctions.
No... I don't know if there is a God or not, but I think if there is, he's not to happy with the notions of baby killers and they will have to pay for their crimes when Judgement Day comes. If there isn't a God, well, I just don't see how morality f
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Jack, while the "Get em tied" thought is in my eyes a valid argument, that particular issue is complicated by a whole raft of liability-related BS that makes it almost impossible to get done for the reasons you suggest.
I know this because one of my ex's actually tried to go that route after being more or less forced to carry an unwanted child due to contraceptive failure, who then abdicated custody of it in a fashion I found somewhat irresponsible and offensive, but it wasn't my kid or my decision, so I had no useful input on the matter.
After that, she made every attempt to get em tied, and nobody would freakin DO it, some because they didn't feel she was old enough (mid-20's) some because she didn't have X amount of kids already, but in general, it could not be done because it WOULD not be done, by anyone qualified to do it.
So that option is prettymuch removed from the table on this one, i'm afraid.
What rooks me so horribly is that many of the same folks who are so concerned about a fetus couldn't give a damn what happens after it pops out, and the barriers to normal folk who cannot have kids adopting are insane.
First off, it costs more in legal fees than a hummer H1 with every possible option, it comes with invasive nose-poking into ones life, and a raft of unethical religious questions and tests that have little if any bearing on the matter.
There's plenty of folks who'd adopt if it wasn't legally and financially prohibitive to do so, try dealing with MARE for a while and you'll see what a nightmare it is.
And so, my "kids" are furry little refugees from certain death that were more or less street adoptions, four of whom were in pretty awful shape to begin with - all of whom are happy, healthy and well cared for now.
Our cats are surrogate children, due to our inability to have them, and the impossibility of adoption, how sad is that ?
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Yes Frem, this being such an impacting topic for everybody on the planet, there is no real cookie cutter solution. Having never looked into the possibility of getting them tied myself, I don't even know how much it costs and I'm assuming it's very expensive. I'm also assuming that it's not covered by your regular health insurance plans at work either.
I think it's very sad that you didn't have any children of your own, by blood or otherwise. You seem to me to be a very wise person who doesn't regurgitate every little BS line that you're fed on the news and I don't think enough kids have a role model at home that might influence them to question the intentions and validity of things that they are just expected to believe are true "because".
Having never looked into adoption, I never knew it cost so much. That too, is unfortunate. It makes you think that maybe all of these unwanted kids are going to be raised by the Government and maybe one day they'll outnumber the children being raised by families at home...... But Huxley already wrote about that and I'm quite sure he did a better job than I could when he wrote it all those years ago.
There are plenty of ways to prevent childbirth and they're almost 100% effective. I think that these alternatives, coupled with an adequite intelligence that will keep one from shagging some lowlife who could/would never stick around to raise a child would be enough to make this such a non-issue that I wouldn't ever have to hear or think about it anymore.
I want somebody to say that the issue is over and the Government is staying out of it, and then I will never have to hear about it again. I don't want to judge other people and I don't like doing it either, but I find some of the things posted here infuriating. BigGov is forcing me, nay all of us, to pass judgement here. They should stay the hell out of it and then it can remain the abortionee's and their doctor's business as it should be.
As frustrated as people make me here and in the "real world", I can't even smoke a damn cigarette without going out in the sub-zero weather.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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All I got to say to that is...
Amen, Bro.
And hail to The Church of Mind Yer Own Bizness.
-F
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Police find five foetuses at the home of US anti-abortion activist
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60950016
She told local news outlet WUSA9 that "people would freak out when they heard" what was inside the containers being seized.
WHO calls for widespread removal of #abortion restrictions, end to ‘criminalization’
https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-03-30-who-calls-widespread-removal-of
-abortion-restrictions.html
Shithole Commiefornia?
California introduces new bill that would allow mothers to #kill their babies up to 7 days after birth."
https://miamistandard.news/2022/03/24/california-introduces-new-bill-t
hat-would-allow-mothers-to-kill-their-babies-up-to-7-days-after-birth/
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New California bill, AB 2223, prohibits the criminalization of perinatal (one month after birth) death, essentially allowing for "after-birth abortions" up to one month after birth
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=2
02120220AB2223
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And hail to The Church of Mind Yer Own Bizness.
From the person who sent his fellow Americans Death-Threats for not voting Hillary Clinton?
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
California introduces new bill that would allow mothers to #kill their babies up to 7 days after birth."
https://miamistandard.news/2022/03/24/california-introduces-new-bill-t
hat-would-allow-mothers-to-kill-their-babies-up-to-7-days-after-birth/
Does anybody have the exact legal verbiage from AB 2223 that states specifically that a mother can murder a baby up to 7 days old either herself or by proxy that they could provide us?
I've never heard of miamistandard.news before and have no idea what side of the lies they're pushing.
This story reeks of a trap.
Rile up a bunch of pro-life Rethuglicans and get them to start calling this the "Child Murder Bill" so they can be just as big of clowns as all the Leftist pieces of shit calling Florida's recent bill the "Don't Say Gay Bill".
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Supreme Court spokesperson on leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade: “The Court has no comment."
Gianna Jessen was intended to die before she was born?
https://www.nujournal.com/news/local-news/2017/09/17/first-choice-hero
-for-life-banquet-to-be-held-tuesday/
Sarah Brown was born brain-damaged, lame, and blind and somehow survived for five years
https://www.lifesitenews.com/pulse/the-abortionist-injected-sarahs-bra
in-with-poison-but-she-didnt-die-until/
Melissa Ohden now aged 42,
https://www.lifenews.com/2020/06/25/woman-who-survived-abortion-i-was-
left-to-die-as-medical-waste/
Josiah is a young man living in Oklahoma who is now very involved in a movement called Abolitionism. While in years past the abolition movement fought things like slavery, their primary focus today is to completely eradicate abortion as an option for pregnant women. Josiah has plenty of reason to oppose it, as he was born as the result of a botched abortion in Korea and now has a maimed arm. He was adopted by a family in Oklahoma and is now grown and healthy.
http://blog.abolishhumanabortion.com/2012/03/my-name-is-josiah-and-i-a
m-abortion.html
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
California introduces new bill that would allow mothers to #kill their babies up to 7 days after birth."
https://miamistandard.news/2022/03/24/california-introduces-new-bill-t
hat-would-allow-mothers-to-kill-their-babies-up-to-7-days-after-birth/
Does anybody have the exact legal verbiage from AB 2223 that states specifically that a mother can murder a baby up to 7 days old either herself or by proxy that they could provide us?
I've never heard of miamistandard.news before and have no idea what side of the lies they're pushing.
This story reeks of a trap.
Rile up a bunch of pro-life Rethuglicans and get them to start calling this the "Child Murder Bill" so they can be just as big of clowns as all the Leftist pieces of shit calling Florida's recent bill the "Don't Say Gay Bill".
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Maryland Senate Bill 669 Legalizes Madness? Commiefornia its 123467(a) which exempts a mother from criminal and civil liability for the "perinatal death" of her child but no true definition of "Perinatal death". New language added to AB 2223 proposed legislation would shield the mother from civil and criminal charges for any “actions or omissions” related to her pregnancy, “including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death.” There is a description of death separate from miscarrriage or stillbirth or aboution: "miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death", some legal experts say it is intended to cover death after birth. Health and Safety Code referenced and search for the definition of "perinatal" you find it unequivocally defined as up to one month post birth?
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?la
wCode=WIC§ionNum=14134.5.&article=4.&highlight=true&keyword=perinatal
Republican Party has abandoned Hollyweird Commiefornia and all of CA
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SEC. 7. Section 123467 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read
(b) A person who aids or assists a pregnant person in exercising their rights under this article shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise be deprived of their rights, based solely on their actions to aid or assist a pregnant person in exercising their rights under this article with the pregnant person’s voluntary consent.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
This is a really stupid study. Is it possible that depressed, drug-dependent women CHOOSE abortion because they realise that they're not parent material? It's the problem with any correlation: does A cause B, does B cause A, are they both caused by C, or are they coincidental?
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
If Roe v Wade is overturned the Dems will win in a landslide. If this happens, I believe it is possible they will clean up the Supreme Court. Justices can be impeached, and those who’ve lied about how they would not overturn what has been precedent for decades must be impeached for lying.
This country is founded on the rule of law. This rule of law can only be maintained if we maintain a separation of church and state. It is obvious some on the court are not capable of doing that. They need to go for that reason. And of course, for lying to Congress. That is after all is said and done, against the law.
T
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You're an abortion, Ted.
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The reality is that 30 pct of women have had an abortion some time in their lifetime. even responsible women on birth control having sex with their husbands. Bc birth cotrol isn't foolproof.
That's 15% of the voting age population. And who know how many sisters and mothers sympathize with them?
If the Dems wanted an issue that would cover a multitude of their sins, the Supreme Court might just hand it to them.
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Debate not just an America thing?
The Oldenburg Baby is the name given by the German media to Tim, an infant born in Oldenburg, Lower Saxony, Germany on 6 July 1997. Tim was born prematurely in the twenty-fifth week of pregnancy as the result of a failed late-term abortion. Doctors had expected the child would soon die and thus withheld treatment for nine hours. He became a focus of the debate surrounding abortion, especially late-term abortion, and its legal and ethical consequences.
Tim died on the 4th of January 2019 from a lung infection; he was 21 years old
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/oldenburg_ostfriesland/Ol
denburger-Baby-stirbt-mit-21-Jahren,tim144.html
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In order to overturn Roe v Wade, Justice Alito felt like the only way to make it acceptable was to soften the blow by clarifying that he didn't support a steady trawl through Supreme Court precedent, overturning every decision along the way that might somehow be related to Roe. In practice there's no telling if he'll stick to his word.
Justice Alito's list of rights (which were previously used as justifications for the Roe v Wade right to abortion decision) he promises NOT to terminate, but he could if he felt the need:
the right to marry a person of a different race;
the right to marry while in prison;
the right to obtain contraceptives;
the right to reside with relatives;
the right to make decisions about the education of one's children;
the right not to be sterilized without consent;
and the right in certain circumstances not to undergo involuntary surgery, forced administration of drugs, or other substantially similar procedures.
Justice Samuel Alito
Full text: leaked Roe v Wade draft ruling
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/full-text-leaked-roe-v-wade-draft-
ruling
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I'd advise everyone not to speculate on this issue at all until there is some substance.
I suspect that a lot of people are going to come out of the other side of this looking like assholes.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Yeah, 'cause I've seen those abortion-hawkers, shamelessly waving their signs at passing motorists. "GET YOUR ABORTION HERE!"
Not.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
I see you lied even back then signym. What was happening and who were carrying the signs has always been anti-abortion activists, comrade. Never have I seen it the other way around unless the right to life side were trying to shut a clinic down.
In 2017 and 2018, Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) defended her support for Supreme Court Justices Neil M. Gorsuch and Brett M. Kavanaugh, in part, by pointing to their respect for precedent.
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Quote:You are the one that predicted the Republican Justices would not overturn Roe v Wade. This written decision says the Justices would. Now that the decision is out in the open, the big shots in the Republican Party can call the different Republican justices before the decision is official and tell the justices what would be best for the GOP in the November election. Making and receiving those phone calls is completely unethical, and if they were caught would get the justices kicked off the Supreme Court by impeachment, as if Congress will ever know what really happened in secret. The justices aren't going to admit that they changed their minds because they were told to wait until after the election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd advise everyone not to speculate on this issue at all until there is some substance.
I suspect that a lot of people are going to come out of the other side of this looking like assholes.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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SignyM:
Yeah, 'cause I've seen those abortion-hawkers, shamelessly waving their signs at passing motorists. "GET YOUR ABORTION HERE!"
Not.
THUGR: I see you lied even back then signym. What was happening and who were carrying the signs has always been anti-abortion activists, comrade. Never have I seen it the other way around unless the right to life side were trying to shut a clinic down.
Holy shit! You are extraordinarily stupid, THUGR!
Didn't the word "NOT" in my post clue you in to the SARCASM???
Or is the whole concept of sarcasm lost on you?
I'm surprised you can manage to find your way to the inet!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You are the one that predicted the Republican Justices would not overturn Roe v Wade. This written decision says the Justices would. Now that the decision is out in the open, the big shots in the Republican Party can call the different Republican justices before the decision is official and tell the justices what would be best for the GOP in the November election. Making and receiving those phone calls is completely unethical, and if they were caught would get the justices kicked off the Supreme Court by impeachment, as if Congress will ever know what really happened in secret. The justices aren't going to admit that they changed their minds because they were told to wait until after the election.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'd advise everyone not to speculate on this issue at all until there is some substance.
I suspect that a lot of people are going to come out of the other side of this looking like assholes.
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Republicans Are Furious About That Supreme Court Leak
The court has lost so much institutional legitimacy that its rulings are just another form of political combat. It would be terrible for the conservative agenda long term if the idea were to catch on with voters that Republican justices are naked political partisans. No wonder Republicans are mad about it.
They’ve been pursuing a deeply unpopular legal victory for the last 50 years. When victory is in their grasp, somebody tried to take it away.
The GOP’s biggest names have treated their impending triumph mostly as an afterthought, while furiously highlighting the fact that someone leaked the decision early.
The response among conservative pundits has been outright unhinged (not that there’s anything unusual about that).
Some, like Daily Wire editor Ben Shapiro, have suggested liberals are trying to incite murder. “There is little question that this leak is designed to create threat to the life and limb of any justice who signs onto the majority opinion,” he tweeted.
(Such a claim might be reasonable if the pro-choice movement had any significant history whatsoever of political violence; but unlike the anti-abortion movement, it does not.)
Others, such as commentator Matt Walsh, have called the leak an “insurrection,” and have tried to claim it is a graver attack on American democracy than the Jan. 6 Capitol riot—which was, as you may recall, an actual violent putsch in which a mob tried to upend the results of a presidential election.
Republicans are trying to distract from the substance of the court’s decision by talking about the leak instead, because overturning Roe is deeply unpopular.
Republicans are genuinely concerned that this could ruin their impending victory. Fox News Host Laura Ingraham told the truth when she says she’s mad about “a naked attempt to try and change the outcome before the final decision is issued.”
The GOP is haunted by the possibility that one of the court’s conservatives could go squishy and change their mind at the last minute, much the way Chief Justice John Roberts did when he decided to uphold the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate after initially voting to strike it down.
Republicans are getting worked up defending the Supreme court’s honor, and treating any breach of its internal procedures as a violation of “sacred traditions,” as Tennessee Sen. March Blackburn put it. After all, they control the institution!
They have a durable, ideologically driven majority, meaning the party now has a vested interest in defending the court’s institutional legitimacy while also pretending as if its decisions aren’t driven by politics. The worst thing that could happen to the GOP would be for the public’s trust in the court to collapse, just as it achieves its crowning but politically unpopular legal victory.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/rational-reasons-republica
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Thank you.
This article is a shining example of the extreme political bias in the media, and it should be treated by any person with half a brain as such.
P.S. You're going to need two justices to go "squishy", not just one.
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Quote:Have you now become anti-abortion because the typical Trump voter is? Or have you become anti-abortion because the typical Biden voter is not?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Thank you.
This article is a shining example of the extreme political bias in the media, and it should be treated by any person with half a brain as such.
P.S. You're going to need two justices to go "squishy", not just one.
Justice Alito has given speeches where he declares himself a Roman Catholic opposed to abortion. This has been talked about many times, but Justices are to make decisions based only on the law and are NEVER to make decisions based on their religion or political party. Some justices sneak religion and politics into their decisions because once they are appointed they can do as they please. The justices then try to put clothing on their naked religious beliefs. (The worst justices also like to say it not themselves who has a religious/political bias; it's the Democrats!)
I can see what Alito is doing. He is not honest enough to cut down on the words and just make his opinion one sentence: "As a Roman Catholic and a Republican, I rule that abortion is illegal in all 50 states, Puerto Rico, District of Columbia, and all territories." His 99 pages of words are camouflage because he didn't write that the decision is only because of his religion and political party.
Alito did bow down a little bit to the law by not declaring abortion illegal everywhere. Alito is leaving the decision to every legislature. That was nice, but he should have just declared abortion unconstitutional because it offends his God and his political party. That would have been the whole truth. But that would also make it far too obvious what Alito is doing in his decision.
In his speeches, Justice Alito is honest. He is not so honest in his written decisions:
Supreme Court Associate Justice Samuel Alito gave a speech on November 12, 2020 to The Federalist Society. Alito took aim at abortion rights, same-sex marriage, and gun control. He also called out COVID-19 restrictions for imposing “previously unimaginable restrictions on individual liberty.” Read the full transcript here.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/supreme-court-justice-samuel-alit
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Justice Alito speech on polarizing issues prompts calls to reform Supreme Court
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/justice-alito-speech-polarizing-issues
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As afterthought, it is also dishonest for a Supreme Court Justice to decide based on being bribed. We will never know if a Supreme Court Justice was bribed (because lawyers are generally smart enough not to admit to a crime, even in their posthumous autobiographies) but there is a decision that makes me concerned that the Supreme Court does not understand that bribery is as wrong as making decisions based on a justice's religion and political party:
The Supreme Court’s Bribery-Blessing McDonnell Decision
https://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/the-supreme-courts-bribery
-blessing-mcdonnell-decision
McDONNELL v. UNITED STATES
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/15-474_ljgm.PDF
McDonnell v. United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_v._United_States
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Have you now become anti-abortion because the typical Trump voter is? Or have you become anti-abortion because the typical Biden voter is not?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Thank you.
This article is a shining example of the extreme political bias in the media, and it should be treated by any person with half a brain as such.
P.S. You're going to need two justices to go "squishy", not just one.
I've already answered this question in the other thread. Just in case you missed them or you're intentionally pretending they don't exist in that thread, I'll port them here.
TRIGGER WARNING: It might possibly break your brain when you realize that not everybody is black and white in their every thought. Your question to me right now could have a few words changed and reversed on you and I already know what your answer would be.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is SO HARD for me to have an opinion on this issue.
My backstory about it has been detailed here several times, and anybody still here probably knows my feelings on it...
Yet at the same time, in America alone, 63 Million weren't born since Roe v. Wade. Multiply that by how many kids 63 Million kids would have had and we'd already be a country of over 1/2 a Billion people.
You think gas and food prices are high right now?
Think the clogged up ports and the shipping catastrophe that Joe Biden* and team haven't figured out how to fix for a year is bad now?
How large is a 63 Million person Carbon Footprint multiplied by their children?
Not to mention that the kids who weren't born ended up being spared being raised by the monster who ultimately murdered them, probably avoiding an unhappy and screwed up life altogether.
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Bottom Line: This is not an issue that will change the way I vote about anything or anyone.
That being said, I think throwing it out is a pretty foolish thing to do. Even if Roe v. Wade should never have been enshrined for good legal reason, that doesn't matter in the slightest. Think about how stupid the average person you know is and then ask yourself if they can even read one sentence of legalese let alone understand it. Reality has no basis on whatever the outcome of all of this ends up being. This one is 100% left to the whims of the court of public opinion.
The reactionary, emotional, stupid public and their asinine opinion.
Was the wind blowing hard enough against Democrats to overshadow this? I guess we'll find out in November.
One thing you can always count on though is that there is never a good opportunity or situation that Republicans can't totally fuck up.
Glad to see there's still some things that never change.
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Yanno...
The strangeness of all of this makes me think there might be some bigger looming issues at play here.
Why this? Why now?
Why do the one single possible thing that could fuck up Republican's chances right when the Democrats are showing the entire exhausted country how inept and evil they are? Why allow Democrats to back themselves onto the ledge of a cliff so high that they'd never recover from the fall only to hand them a loaded rocket launcher at the last minute?
Are things about to get worse than they already are somehow?
I'm talking something big. Really, really big. Something that the Democrats could never hope to escape out from under while it happens under their watch.
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Quote:You forgot to port your true answer. Here it is: Nobody cares about Russia or Ukraine. Now all they think about is how bad they want to kill babies and how much they love killing babies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've already answered this question in the other thread. Just in case you missed them or you're intentionally pretending they don't exist in that thread, I'll port them here.
Duh. Dur. Uggggg. pffffffft
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11552
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You forgot to port your true answer. Here it is: Nobody cares about Russia or Ukraine. Now all they think about is how bad they want to kill babies and how much they love killing babies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've already answered this question in the other thread. Just in case you missed them or you're intentionally pretending they don't exist in that thread, I'll port them here.
Duh. Dur. Uggggg. pffffffft
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Yeah. I did forget that one. Thanks.
That illustrates the trigger warning I posted above.
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TRIGGER WARNING: It might possibly break your brain when you realize that not everybody is black and white in their every thought. Your question to me right now could have a few words changed and reversed on you and I already know what your answer would be.
That's not about me. That's about you.
I'm intelligent enough to say both that the issue is too complex for me to give a definitive answer on, and that I don't even feel it's important enough to do so, while YOU are behaving exactly as anyone who read these boards would expect you to and parroting whatever bullshit talking points your Leftist media outfits tell you to think. I also dragged republicans over the coals for what I feel is a pretty stupid gamble to make.
Republicans suck. I've always said that Republicans suck. I'm not a Republican. The only reason I'm so anti-Democrat right now is because Democrats have become sooooooo fucking bad that they make Republicans look okay by comparison. Not an easy feat to be certain.
The most powerful weapon you can use against any Democrat is a simple mirror that you can lift and show them their own faces.
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Overturning Roe v. Wade
Republicans are turning the public conversation to the question of who leaked the document. They are blaming Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, who hasn’t even taken her Supreme Court seat yet — for the leak, although observers point out that the leak seems more likely to have come from a hard-core right-wing antiabortion activist, since it will make it very hard for any of those justices currently in the majority to soften their stance.
The draft decision takes a sweepingly broad position against Roe v. Wade, declaring that the Fourteenth Amendment cannot protect the right to abortion because such a right is not “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.” This opens the door to similar attacks on constitutional rights previously established by the Supreme Court.
The indignant tone and aggressive reasoning at the Supreme Court makes clear how empowered the conservative majority believes itself to be.
Republican lawmakers are downplaying the reach of the apparent decision, avoiding the question of whether gay rights are next on the chopping block. Bryan Metzger of Business Insider asked “nearly a dozen” Republican senators whether they think the draft decision overturning Roe v. Wade threatens the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges decision recognizing the right to same-sex marriage, and whether they supported overturning the Obergefell decision. Metzger wrote: “None gave a clear yes or no answer, and several outright declined to comment.”
Right-wing commentators today called for the court to end recognition of the right to gay marriage.
Texas governor Greg Abbott said that Texas might challenge the 1982 Plyler v. Doe decision. “I think we will resurrect that case and challenge this issue again,” Abbott told a talk show host, “the times are different than when Plyler versus Doe was issued many decades ago.” The real difference is 6 Republicans on the Supreme Court.
The draft decision has been a clarifying moment for the country. This is not a culture war, as if it were a battle between two sides over hemlines or movie ratings. The right seeks to break through all restraints on government power in an effort to establish a society that aligns with a view of America as a White, Christian country.
The MAGA crowd is the most extreme political organization that’s existed in American history. This moment echos the days after the 1857 Dred Scott v Sandford decision by the Supreme Court took away voters’ ability to stop the spread of slavery. Like the draft decision we have seen this week, that decision was clearly political and drew on appallingly bad history to reach a conclusion that gave extraordinary power to the country’s slave-owners. Horace Greeley, the prominent editor of the New York Daily Tribune, wrote that the Dred Scott decision was “entitled to just so much moral weight as would be the judgment of a majority of those congregated in any Washington bar-room.”
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/may-4-2022?s=r
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Keep pretending that it has anything to do with white Christians at your own peril.
I want to see Democrats rail HARD against this and watch just how much the blacks and Mexicans aren't down with what rich white Democrats want in the 2020s.
This is class warfare at this point, and the rest of us don't give a shit about your first world problems, Karen.
Get fucked. And while you're getting fucked, if you don't want to have kids then they make pills for that.
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Quote:I have been hearing the same since the 1960's from people who complain about the Republicans, but find the Democrats to be worse. Then the complainers vote Republican.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not about me. That's about you.
I'm intelligent enough to say both that the issue is too complex for me to give a definitive answer on, and that I don't even feel it's important enough to do so, while YOU are behaving exactly as anyone who read these boards would expect you to and parroting whatever bullshit talking points your Leftist media outfits tell you to think. I also dragged republicans over the coals for what I feel is a pretty stupid gamble to make.
Republicans suck. I've always said that Republicans suck. I'm not a Republican. The only reason I'm so anti-Democrat right now is because Democrats have become sooooooo fucking bad that they make Republicans look okay by comparison. Not an easy feat to be certain.
The most powerful weapon you can use against any Democrat is a simple mirror that you can lift and show them their own faces.
I have followed the life stories of these complainers and their kids -- Republicans are bad but Democrats are worse so I vote for the Republicans -- and their lives do not run straight and smooth, kind of like yours, 6ix. Pick a side, 6ix, and support it. I have no problems with either Democrats or with my life because I picked a side and stick with it. I know where the Democrats are going and I, personally, know where I am going and have goals that never change and are not foggy or unfocused. I don't do the dishonest confused nonsense that most semi-Republican-but-not-really Texans do: I don't cheat on my wife, don't cheat on my taxes, I don't lie, I show up for work and do my job. Trump couldn't truthfully say that (although he would falsely claim he has those fine qualities). All the Trump voters I know (excluding the rich ones) are just as flaky as Trump is, make the same false claims about themselves, insisting they are solid, trustworthy, hardworking citizens. They are NOT. If they believe what they say about themselves, they have to be self-deluded to not make the unbreakable connection between being a fake who doesn't acknowledge he is fake and having a troubled life.
Trump voters are Jokers.
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lol
Meanwhile... In reality.
Even CNN doubts that Roe v Wade is going to help Democrats in November.
https://archive.ph/7oA5l
But please. Do go ahead and talk about this one for months like you spent 2 months wasting time talking about Russia and Ukraine and two years before that about Covid.
Or you could, yanno, fix your fucking party before it's too late for them.
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Quote:The people I know who defend Trump are on the bottom of the economic ladder for obvious reasons. Go fix yourselves so that someday you can get off the bottom because voting for Trump a third time will not fix what is wrong with you.
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Or you could, yanno, fix your fucking party before it's too late for them.
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The Supreme Court abortion opinion has enormous implications for the future of American law.
In a matter of months, nearly half of the United States will ban something that is seen by millions of Americans — and that has been protected for over 40 years by the US Constitution — as a crucial human right. Those states will also seek to extend the bans beyond their borders. Texas is already doing this, including an extradition provision in a recent restriction on medication abortion that would allow the state to prosecute residents elsewhere who send the pills into Texas.
Abortion opponents in Texas also hope to find ways to restrict abortions that Texans receive out of state. “All options are on the table,” John Seago, legislative director of Texas Right to Life, said in an April interview. “Our legislature is very motivated, and they’ll continue to be motivated even post-Roe.”
The larger legal implications of such efforts are immense. No one knows exactly what will happen when a state like Texas tries to prosecute abortion providers in a state like California, or what the courts will do if and when such prosecutions are challenged. Such a situation, however, eerily echoes divides between free and slave states prior to the Civil War, and between Southern and Northern states under Jim Crow.
The parallels become even more pronounced when you recognize that the populations most affected by the fall of Roe, especially Black Americans, were also those who had their rights stripped from them under slavery and Jim Crow, Goodwin pointed out. And some of the same states that enacted Jim Crow legislation are those seeking to ban abortion today. Those states also “still happen to have legislatures that are predominantly white, and overwhelmingly male,” Goodwin said. “They haven’t significantly changed.”
Interstate conflict over slavery, obviously, eventually gave rise to the Civil War. Losing the war, states enshrined racial discrimination in law and practice under Jim Crow. It took a mass movement led by Black Americans — in which many were killed — to wrest back victories like Brown v. Board of Education and the Voting Rights Act. Even after Brown, President Dwight Eisenhower had to call in the National Guard so that nine Black students could go to school in Arkansas.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2022/5/5/23057317/abortion-supreme-court
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The people I know who defend Trump are on the bottom of the economic ladder for obvious reasons.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Or you could, yanno, fix your fucking party before it's too late for them.
Both a lie and a fallacy of an argument you're constantly guilty of using every day.
It won't help you or your party.
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Explain that image, Ted.
If you can.
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Not following much news from the US but this one has definitely caught my eye. It’s must be incredibly alarming for women over there.
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Not following much news from the US but this one has definitely caught my eye. It’s must be incredibly alarming for women over there.
Five Supreme court justices lied there way onto the court.
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If there is a issue that can help Dems win seats this year, this is it.
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If there is a issue that can help Dems win seats this year, this is it.
It doesn't appear that CNN is very hopeful:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressio
nal-vote-7361.html
If CNN is showing the GOP generic at +7, you know that means it's more likely +10 or +11 in favor of Republicans.
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The entire legal system under direct terroristic attack? Angry pro-abortion protesters have marched to a house believed to belong to a U.S. Supreme Court Justice
ill-han omar demands Abortion for Americans but won't Abort Palestine?
crazier protests?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OlT4cvNnrSs2/
ProLife groups this week are working to expose what appears to be five babies allegedly being killed in an Abortion procedure after partial birth
https://gettr.com/post/p18llhs1f47
Sickos?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/justice-clarence-thomas-triggers-leftist
s-speech-saying-court-wont-bullied-bully-them-harder
Pro- Mandatory Vaccine Leftists SPray churches with Abortion Vandalism
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/godless-leftists-vandalize-ca
tholic-church-boulder-pro-abortion-graffiti/
PR firm is telling its clients to stay in their lane on abortion.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/06/pr-giant-tells-corporate
-clients-to-stay-silent-on-abortion-no-win-situation/
The piratenews style conspiracy of infanticide by a sect of jews who enjoy the Babylon talmud?
https://forward.com/opinion/393168/why-are-jews-so-pro-choice/
https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-pro-abortion-groteque-display
“I’m killing the mother f&cking baby,” she yelled, strangling the doll.
Here, she sits on the ground and appears to pretend to give birth. She also smashes the doll's head on the ground in between her legs.
Aborting Western Civilization?
Crazy screeching cowardly Abortionists want to bring in islamists that chuck gays off buildings while hanging outside Western Churches and attacking people who pray?
https://t.me/RealVincentJames/12809
https://news.yahoo.com/not-fair-fayetteville-residents-react-090120681
.html
https://prolifeupdate.com/2022/03/10/radical-feminists-celebrate-abort
ionists-as-heroes/
https://nypost.com/2022/05/06/abortion-activists-call-on-americans-to-
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It's the dying gasps of the Democratic Party.
They made the choice to align themselves with psychopaths since the Obama Administration. Now they're going to pay for that choice.
I don't blame the Corps for sitting Abortion out after how poorly all their other takes have gone over with The People.
In a perfect world, Republicans would break them all up starting in December of 2022, but in our timeline the Republicans aren't much better than Democrats are and this will not be the outcome.
Not while people like Mitt Romney are still in power anyhow.
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A Salute to Abortions
I think the audience they were cutting to had to be a different audience than what was in the room with her.
I'll bet Netflix is having second thoughts about this one right now.
Netflix Price on July 8, 2018 when this video was uploaded to YouTube: $530.76
Netflix Current Stock Price: $180.97
Americans were down with Safe, Legal and Rare.
They weren't down with this fucking clown show.
"God Bless abortions! And God Bless America!"
Americans already forgot about Covid. They won't remember Ukraine by November.
But by all means, rail hard on this one until election day and see where it gets you when the lowest 20% of people can't even afford to live anymore and you've got people wishing they did get an abortion when they can't even find any baby formula and are in the middle of bidding wars for it on ebay because Democrats suck at everything they do.
But don't worry about Michelle Wolf though. She'll be the first person to tell you that she has money and she can afford as many abortions and as much baby formula as she wants.
Well... at least she could in 2018. Anybody know what truck stop diner she's working at today? Maybe we could get Taylor Lorenz to figure that one out for us.
As for Netflix, you should probably go a step beyond what your PR firm is telling you to do and remove this video. It's only got 600,000 views right now. It's likely to get a lot more than that for all the wrong reasons in the upcoming months.
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Alito draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade Quotes Infamous Witch Trial Judge With Long-Discredited Ideas
Justice Alito’s leaked opinion cites Sir Matthew Hale, a 17th-century jurist who conceived the notion that husbands can’t be prosecuted for raping their wives, who sentenced women to death as “witches,” and whose misogyny stood out even in his time.
The so-called marital rape exemption — the legal notion that a married woman cannot be raped by her husband — traces to Hale. So does a long-used instruction to jurors to be skeptical of reports of rape.
Hale, dispensing life advice, veered into a screed against women, describing them as “chargeable unprofitable people” who “know the ready way to consume an estate, and to ruin a family quickly.” Hale particularly despaired of the changes he saw in young women, writing, “And now the world is altered: young gentlewomen learn to be bold” and “talk loud.”
Alito, in his draft opinion, invokes “eminent common-law authorities,” including Hale, to show how abortion was viewed historically not as a right, but as a criminal act. “Two treatises by Sir Matthew Hale likewise described abortion of a quick child who died in the womb as a ‘great crime’ and a ‘great misprision,’” Alito wrote.
misprision = "the deliberate concealment of one's knowledge of a treasonable act or a felony."
Even before “quickening” — defined by Alito as “the first felt movement of the fetus in the womb, which usually occurs between the 16th and 18th week of pregnancy” — Hale believed an abortion could qualify as homicide. “Hale wrote that if a physician gave a woman ‘with child’ a ‘potion’ to cause an abortion, and the woman died, it was ‘murder’ because the potion was given ‘unlawfully to destroy her child within her,’” Alito wrote.
Hale’s pronouncement became the accepted common law and served as foundation in the United States for immunizing a husband accused of raping his wife. And where did Hale’s pronouncement come from? What did he base it upon? Who knows? “Hale appears to have been the first to articulate what later would become an accepted legal principle, that a husband cannot be charged with raping his wife,” according to a footnote in one law review article. Another law review article, titled “The Marital Rape Exemption: Evolution to Extinction,” called Hale’s pronouncement “an unsupported, extrajudicial statement” lacking in authority.
Some observers have been taken aback that Alito referenced Hale. But not everyone was surprised. It is a truth universally acknowledged that a conservative Supreme Court justice will cherry-pick a swine as a timeless authority on reproductive rights.
https://www.propublica.org/article/abortion-roe-wade-alito-scotus-hale
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Supreme Court justices lied in their confirmation hearings about abortion
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand said Sunday that multiple Supreme Court justices lied in their confirmation hearings about abortion, echoing the statements of Sens. Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins in the wake of the leak of a draft Supreme Court opinion.
“If a corporation put these kind of statements in their quarterly filings, they would be seen to be purposefully misleading and deemed fraud,” Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I think they misled the Senate with the intention of getting their confirmation vote with the intention of overruling Roe.”
Gillibrand was addressing last week’s leak of a draft opinion that showed the Supreme Court was prepared to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that legalized abortion nationally.
“Four justices in the last hearings I’ve witnessed have said that precedent matters and that precedent is the foundation of our legal system,” she said. “And so if they just feel they can just upend this precedent because they don’t like it today, well, that’s inconsistent with what they promised.”
Collins (R-Maine) last week said she felt betrayed by what she saw in the draft opinion. “If this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what Justice [Neal] Gorsuch and Justice [Brett] Kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office,” Collins said in a statement. Murkowski (R-Alaska) made a similar statement: “It was not the direction that I believed that the court would take, based on statements that have been made about Roe being settled and being precedent.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/08/supreme-court-justices-misled
-the-senate-gillibrand-said-00030900
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If the Supreme Court does in fact overturn the right to an abortion, the difference between pre-Roe and post-Roe, according to Joffe, would be that today, there would be harsh and unprecedented punishments for those who receive one.
Pre-Roe, "abortion was illegal and everybody knew it, but there was no anti-abortion movement to speak of," Joffe explained. "There was nothing remotely resembling what we have today. So even though it was illegal, there was, relatively speaking, very little conviction of doctors or of anybody who did it."
While doctors faced the potential for prison time and disbarment, they were infrequently criminalized for performing abortions, Joffe said.
"Relatively speaking, very few doctors were convicted," she said, adding that it was about "a handful."
US courts frequently regarded women who got abortions as "victims" rather than as accomplices or criminals, according to a 2001 research article that studied abortion from the 1860s to 1970s.
Today, Joffe warns, some legislation criminalizes both people who get an abortion and perform, marking an entirely different landscape for reproductive rights. Lizelle Herrera, for instance, had been arrested and charged with murder last month in the state of Texas after a self-induced abortion, police said.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220508183612/https://www.businessinsider
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Two children killed in post birth Abortion Blast ...Assault Bomb Abortional explosive device blast in Syria
???
abortion baby killing becomes a homicide?
https://www.ntd.com/lawmakers-push-to-brand-abortion-a-homicide_776219
.html
Justice Kavanaugh's neighbor is organizing the protest outside his home.
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3480452-from-court-packing-to-le
aking-to-doxing-white-house-yields-to-a-national-rage-addiction/
Not just ill-han Omar wants to Abort America and Not Abort islamics
The Satanic Temple Has Joined The Fight To Keep Abortion Legal
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/the-satanic-temple-has-joined-the-fight-
to-keep-abortion-legal-20220503
Antifa goons do terroristic attacks and firebomb pro-life crisis pregnancy center?
https://freedomrockradio.co/news/molotov-cocktail-attack-at-madison-wi
sconsin-family-action-anti-abortion-headquarters/
Wisconsin anti-abortion headquarters reportedly attacked
https://www.theblaze.com/news/wisconsn-family-action-abortion-molotov-
cocktail
Lefterrorists Attack?
https://madison.com/news/local/madison-anti-abortion-headquarters-hit-
by-molotov-cocktail-vandalism-graffiti/article_526660ea-776d-50ca-9baa-4b4a9337dca7.html
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Quotes Infamous Witch Trial Judge
second why are you not out there promoting all islamo women to abort their kids?
Speaking of islamist witch trials Second and I know you Love your Best friend politician illhan omar
and in the Middle East and parts of Asia and Africa where you can be stoned to death or beheaded for 'witchcraft'
second, you keep telling me you know those islamic texts from 1400 years ago, you keep telling me you read the book of the pedophile islamist mohammed and the islamist mohammedan writings
Why don't you quote me any page, any paragraph at all from the Koran or Quran or islamic texts
Why can't you tell me what kind of person this mahomet was?
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Missouri will automatically ban Plan B if Roe is overturned.
Louisiana is voting to make the use of an IUD murder.
Republican senators like Marsha Blackburn and Senate candidates like Blake Masters (AZ) have now come out against the 1965 court decision legalizing contraception.
https://debatepolitics.com/threads/miss-governor-doesn%E2%80%99t-rule-
out-banning-contraception-if-roe-falls.480366/
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Just a reminder:
The issue at the core of this debate is consent.
Not religion. Not privacy.
The issue is, when does a person get to consent to another human's use of their body?
And when do they get forced (by a man, by a government, or a kid, or a hospital) to let another human use their body?
In case an example is needed:
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Person1: A kid needs your kidney — they'll die without it.
Person2: I'm so sorry. But I don't consent to them using my kidney.
Person1: Ok. Your body, your choice.
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P1: A kid needs your uterus - they'll die without it.
P2: I'm so sorry. But I don't consent to them using my uterus.
P1: MURDERER
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In both examples, the issue is consent. Person2 does not consent to the use of their kidney (or their uterus), even if a kid will die because of that choice. The difference in these two examples is that Person1 views the right to consent to "the use of a kidney" and "the use of a uterus" as different:
- For a kidney, the person with the kidney gets to decide -even if a kid dies.
- For a uterus, the person with the uterus does not get to decide - because a kid will die.
As a society, we have collectively agreed that bodily autonomy is your right.
It's your kidney. It's your liver. It's your lung.
Even if a kid will die, you cannot be forced to let them use your kidney.
Even if a kid will die, you cannot be forced to let them use your uterus.
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You probably should have stood with me against vaccine mandates.
Now you all look like a bunch of hypocritical assholes.
Well... you always look like that anyhow, but you never do miss an opportunity to put it on display for everyone to see.
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I think the issue at the core of this is privacy.
T
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I think the issue at the core of this is privacy.
T
Oh. Like your right to medical privacy? As in, not losing your fucking job because you wouldn't submit to an unconstitutional vaccine mandate?
Or do you mean how the Leftists constantly doxx people they don't like and send the ultra-extreme Leftist murdertards after them, either showing up at their houses in person or trying to kill them by proxy and SWATting them?
Shut up, Ted.
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Quote:Friendly reminder that it is a federal crime to use organs from a deceased person who didn't give permission while alive, even if those organs are the difference between life and death for someone. That draft decision on abortion would give living women less bodily autonomy than a corpse.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You probably should have stood with me against vaccine mandates.
Now you all look like a bunch of hypocritical assholes.
Well... you always look like that anyhow, but you never do miss an opportunity to put it on display for everyone to see.
P.S. Once again, 6ix, you're showing a misunderstanding of what the word hypocrite means. It ain't hard to understand, but still you don't.
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Originally posted by THG:
I think the issue at the core of this is privacy.
T
Oh. Like your right to medical privacy? As in, not losing your fucking job because you wouldn't submit to an unconstitutional vaccine mandate?
Or do you mean how the Leftists constantly doxx people they don't like and send the ultra-extreme Leftist murdertards after them, either showing up at their houses in person or trying to kill them by proxy and SWATting them?
Shut up, Ted.
6ix, It is not unconstitutional to fire people because they voted for Trump. They get fired for all kinds of reasons, but mainly because the job is the company's property, not the employee's, although time after time some worthless poor white trash is fired who will never understand they were fired because they don't have a constitutional right to be employed.
P.S. Employees do have a constitutional right to abortion, which 5 justices have decided, maybe, to make unconstitutional. Or maybe not. Who knows for sure which way those 5 will fall?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Friendly reminder that it is a federal crime to use organs from a deceased person who didn't give permission while alive, even if those organs are the difference between life and death for someone. That draft decision on abortion would give living women less bodily autonomy than a corpse.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You probably should have stood with me against vaccine mandates.
Now you all look like a bunch of hypocritical assholes.
Well... you always look like that anyhow, but you never do miss an opportunity to put it on display for everyone to see.
P.S. Once again, 6ix, you're showing a misunderstanding of what the word hypocrite means. It ain't hard to understand, but still you don't.
Incorrect.
Your reply, as per usual, has nothing to do with my post and as such does not prove your conclusion.
Try again, Hypocrite.
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Originally posted by THG:
I think the issue at the core of this is privacy.
T
Oh. Like your right to medical privacy? As in, not losing your fucking job because you wouldn't submit to an unconstitutional vaccine mandate?
Or do you mean how the Leftists constantly doxx people they don't like and send the ultra-extreme Leftist murdertards after them, either showing up at their houses in person or trying to kill them by proxy and SWATting them?
Shut up, Ted.
6ix, It is not unconstitutional to fire people because they voted for Trump.
I didn't say one fucking word about getting fired for supporting Trump, so I won't even grace you with any more of a reply to this asinine sentence than that.
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They get fired for all kinds of reasons, but mainly because the job is the company's property, not the employee's, although time after time some worthless poor white trash is fired who will never understand they were fired because they don't have a constitutional right to be employed.
Cool.
We'll see what you have to say about it now that the pendulum is in full swing the other way and they come for your buddies.
SPOILER ALERT: My position will not have changed regarding this, and yours will.
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P.S. Employees do have a constitutional right to abortion, which 5 justices have decided, maybe, to make unconstitutional. Or maybe not. Who knows for sure which way those 5 will fall?
They never did. Learn what the Constitution is, retard.
Regardless, I've already gone on record stating that I think overturning Roe v Wade is a mistake. Also one that I never thought they'd actually make.
You're all for "My Body, My Choice" when they want you to be, but you were just fine with corporations invading people's privacy and medical records and firing them because they wouldn't get vaccinated.
SPOILER ALERT 2: A LOT of people who didn't get vaccinated voted Democrat in 2020 and most of their life before that.
I'm sure you'll still be scratching your head wondering all the reasons why Democrats lost the Latino vote and that blacks won't be lagging too far behind.
This is just one of those reasons.
One of the many, many reasons.
Good luck ever getting Democrats back in office once the only ones left voting for them are rich white racists and their blue-checkmark minority pets.
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Remember when we had a guy called 'PirateNews'
This PirateNews he used to post these wacko conspiracy posts about Firefly being a documentary or 911 Conspiracy or a world taken over by the US and Communist China or rant about things like Baal some weird Baphomet transexual Goat religion thing from Canaan, becoming a fallen angel and a demon, linked to a Masonic Solomon and stories about an army of 66 legions of demons, and Molech and Saturn and Cronos and Aztec gods, there was also a bunch of Haiti Satanic Voodoo stuff and Ba'al Ha'amon a related god to the one in Arabia, that Phoenician the chief North Africa god of Carthage....
This conspiracy poster, he might post about tribal societies a cannibalism thing and headhunting, I don't think he covered Japan or Tibet or India much they had this thing called 'Thuggee' and police in Khurja reported "dozens of sacrifices" in the period of half a year in 2006, by followers of Kali, the goddess of death and time,
January 2008, Milton Blahyi of Liberia confessed being part of human sacrifices which "included the killing of an innocent child and plucking out the heart, which was divided into pieces for us to eat." He fought against Charles Taylor's militia, there is still black market demand for child abduction in countries such as Kenya for purposes which include human sacrifice... the user 'PirateNews' would often post random almost crazed examples of weird news or rant and rant about this Occult 'Satanic' stuff but it rarely made sense.
anyways it always seemed like Gibberish or spiritual religion silliness or 'Conspiracy' or wacky Occult stuff or
or pedophile islands or a child killing horror movie thing on MTV or a Ritual in 'Bohemian Grove' the Conspiracy would never make any kind of sense in any clownworld or would it?
However what we see now is
'CRAZY'
even more crazy than PirateNews perhaps?
Are some individual leftists supporting an argument for some kind of 'forced sterilization'
How could I say such a thing?
Well the way I've seen some in viral mobile cellphone footage, the way ive seen some behave is like when you read those stories about serial killers and the signs, they would rip dolls apart, pull wings of flies, play weird cruel games with their toys and the parents knew this kid was 'special' or would grow up disturbed?
and that's what sometimes you see,
a very disturbed person doing weird kind of occult bloody sacrifice things to some doll...for what reason I do not know...maybe its Group frenzy mania hysteria or maybe the years of bad tv, booze and drugs?
What I do not understand is the overall mob, the ones that were supposed to be more normal yet supporting fire bombings but perhaps there is no understanding a mob, it is a frenzy thing, a pack, its own entity
These Neo-Left firebomb Pro-Life offices? They are attacking Churches the Christian ones
The Left once used to mean something but what happened to the illiberal, the regressive left?
but these Nu-Left they won't attack Synagogues, they will not attack the Sikh freaks....maybe they fear it as an unknown that guy with a Turban on his head, they are too cowardly to go outside Mosques, maybe won't go near some Buddha Temple just in case some Shaolin Monk comes out and looses his cool and gives them a round house kick to the face?
Thank the silly fem literature and dumb tv shows for 'NPC' types wearing those "Handmaid's Tale" costumes
A video gaming type gamergate 'journalist' guy was calling for more violence and killing? a left wing journalist has called for more terrorist attacks against anti-abortion groups.
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-left-wing-journalist-calls-for-
more-violence-against-pro-life-groups
but why are the US Christian Churches a Target?
Beetlejuice, seems to support the terrorist Firebombs, Chicago's Beetlejuice
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Quote:The Democrats are the party for people who follow the rules, while the Republicans break rules. There are exceptions: Black and Latin who break the rules all the time may vote Democrat but they should become Republicans. Rule 1 is to get vaccinated. Rule 2 is go to the dentist. Rule 3 is don't smoke. Rule 4 is don't be a drunk. Rule 5 is go to work. Rule 6 is don't fornicate. Rule 7 is don't get fat. (6ix broke rules 1 to 6) There are many more rules.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
SPOILER ALERT 2: A LOT of people who didn't get vaccinated voted Democrat in 2020 and most of their life before that.
I'm sure you'll still be scratching your head wondering all the reasons why Democrats lost the Latino vote and that blacks won't be lagging too far behind.
This is just one of those reasons.
One of the many, many reasons.
Good luck ever getting Democrats back in office once the only ones left voting for them are rich white racists and their blue-checkmark minority pets.
What do the rules get for you? My sisters (a teacher and a nurse) and I (an engineer) follow the rules and became multi-millionaires without traumas or dramas along the way. (Well, I did break some rules and I sure as hell paid for it with unnecessary drama.) Just in case you think my family had the wealth of a Trump, my father was a Burger King manager. My mother worked at Burger King. Meanwhile, all my cousins break all the rules and vote for Trump because he promised to MAGA.
My cousins had a lot of drama in their lives, never had money, and all the male cousins died young because they broke the rules about working, cheating and health. How do I know the dead male cousins would have voted for Trump? Their children take after their fathers in breaking rules and being unsuccessful. The children vote for Trump.
If you want to vote for Trump and break the rules necessary for a healthy, long, easy, rich life, go right ahead. It will do you no good voting for Trump if you break the rules, but if it makes you feel better, do it. That should also apply to Blacks and Latins who break the rules. Being a Democrat, but breaking the rules because you don't even know the rules, especially Rule #1 - vaccination and Rules #2, #3, #4, #5, #6 and #7, will not give you a successful life. You'd be more consistent if you voted for Trump because your life is a dramatic failure.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The Democrats are the party for people who follow the rules, while the Republicans break rules. There are exceptions: Black and Latin who break the rules all the time may vote Democrat but they should become Republicans. Rule 1 is to get vaccinated. Rule 2 is go to the dentist. Rule 3 is don't smoke. Rule 4 is don't be a drunk. Rule 5 is go to work. Rule 6 is don't fornicate. Rule 7 is don't get fat. (6ix broke rules 1 to 6) There are many more rules.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
SPOILER ALERT 2: A LOT of people who didn't get vaccinated voted Democrat in 2020 and most of their life before that.
I'm sure you'll still be scratching your head wondering all the reasons why Democrats lost the Latino vote and that blacks won't be lagging too far behind.
This is just one of those reasons.
One of the many, many reasons.
Good luck ever getting Democrats back in office once the only ones left voting for them are rich white racists and their blue-checkmark minority pets.
Wow. Somebody is feeling super religious and righteous today, huh?
We know you murder people, Arthur.
Not going to read one second more of that bullshit today... Or any day.
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Quote:I am an atheist, 6ix. I am not an agnostic. I am not a religious person who hasn't selected a church. But I am an engineer who pays attention to what causes failure/death/trauma/divorce and I have seen people die for breaking simple rules like 'Don't smoke'. I have also seen people die for breaking simple safety rules at work or while hunting. One of those dead cousins of mine, whose son votes for Trump, died while pheasant hunting because he didn't follow the safety rules about shotguns and accidentally shot himself in the neck. The Bible says nothing about shotguns, just in case you think it has something to do with religion. Trump voters, and others not careful about following rules, can't improve their lives, regardless of which political party is in power.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wow. Somebody is feeling super religious and righteous today, huh?
We know you murder people, Arthur.
Not going to read one second more of that bullshit today... Or any day.
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I'm not having this conversation with you anymore, Second.
It's your go-to diversion whenever you've lost an argument.
Let me know when you want to stop making yourself look like an asshole and we can get back on topic so I can continue making you look like an asshole.
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Lori Lightfoot Urges 'Call to Arms' Against Supreme Court Over Roe v. Wade
https://www.newsweek.com/lori-lightfoot-call-arms-abortion-supreme-cou
rt-roe-wade-1705094
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot has put out a "call to arms"
Six might be an addict, have his issues but I guess sometimes I respect his thoughts as he does sometimes have a genuine sense of reality and honesty with himself
You second however are a proven liar and try to cover up your own fib, lie and falsification you avoid, cover your distortion and lies
Why does someone keep shifting, trying to change their spots like some cartoon cat, go Chameleon on subjects and keep shape shifting their political reality to suit some political agenda
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Originally posted by second:
The Bible says
BLA blah Blah Bible, which version of the Christian Bible, there are many versions and why do you keep try attacking them?
Are you quoting Lutheran, Mormon Bible, the Russian Orthdox Bible, the Anglican, Vatican Roman Catholic Bible, some French Bible in Canada, the British Queen's Protestant Bible, the Armenian Apostolic, the Jew Arabic versions of Bible, Syriac Orthodox, the Coptic Egypt Christain Orthodox, Assyrian Church, are you quoting some Scientology bible thing, some Freemason Satanic Shriner Bible goat worshiping 'Bible' where they pray to muhammed? the Greek Orthodox, the Hebrew Bible?
From what I know of the writing of 'Jesus' he was a chilled cooled hippe type who reportedly done magical miracle type stuff, he did lose his calm once in a while throwing bankers from the temple or tell people to sell their cloak and purchase a Sword or 'Sell your cloak and buy a sword' it might read in the Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic or Latin 'one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one' let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one, or “Go Buy a Sword!”
It has been wrote and some other guy translates and re-writing and copied and wrote again many times. As a Book it is a collection of religious books considered true and material canon accepted as officially part of the continuity story in certain Churches, some Christian churches disagree as to what happened and certain pages are changed to have more 'true' meaning or left out and removed. It has been re-written and quoted and re-wrote and re-translated many times. When you quoted this book you never told me which Bible site or which version of the Bible you quote from?
But since you're such an expert in US and World culture and Religions why don't you tell us about the Jewish Babylonian Talmud
or Marxism or the wonders of Socialist writers who have helped killed millions
perhaps quote the crazy Buddha in the Tripitaka, Mahayana, Sutras or the Sikhs or Sanskrit writings of Jainism, or some of that Native Voodoo African Hoodoo gibberish or and Hindu Street shitter writings?
or quote some of your favorite political authority leaders?
or that German guy a Socalist who killed 8 Million? Jews, Roma, Gypsies?
or QUOTE that shit islamo Book the Koran or Quran?
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I am an atheist, 6ix.
You are NOT an Anti-theist
Neither are you a true Atheist ... not while Ex-muslim atheists are getting beheaded, shot, stoned to death and bombed and yet you support this 'culture'?
Bomb Cartoonists
What surprises me is sometimes your utter Schizo-like short circuiting cognitive dissonance?
What surprises me is how you are an 'Artist' and yet sometimes so deceptive to yourself and everyone else and so rigid.
I guess maybe we should feel sorry for you because of those family 'issues' but Very often on the subject of faiths and religions and zealots and jihads you come across as a fucking coward and a Liar.
The family things explain much so I guess I should cut you slack.
Gun Deaths are very high in the States, it is a fact of life and maybe a mindset or part of the frontier, there are guys in Canada a
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Six might be an addict, have his issues but I guess sometimes I respect his thoughts as he does sometimes have a genuine sense of reality and honesty with himself
It's nice to know that this doesn't go unnoticed.
I've made a LOT of mistakes in my life. Many of them are chronicled right here on fff.net and I've never once gone back and deleted a single post of mine. Ted has even taken it upon himself to go back through my often terrible past and drudge up old posts of mine that I made when I was blackout drunk in an attempt to shame me.
I've apologized, sincerely, for the things I've said here during the time that I was the worst possible me that I could be. But I won't delete them.
Yup. I used to drink a tanker truck of booze in 6 months.
Yup. I used to get high every day, at one point for 12 years straight.
Yup. I lost 22 of my teeth.
Yup. I got laid off from my last good job 13 years ago and haven't even made what I used to make in 2 years in the 13 years that followed.
Yup. I had premarital sex, got a woman pregnant, and were one of the men who had their baby murdered without anybody ever even stopping to ask me what my opinion was first.
Yup. I smoke and drink too much coffee.
I don't deny any of these things. I never have.
I'm also not ashamed of them. Why should I be? What purpose does that serve? And why would I ever let some random person online shame me about any of it when I know full well that he's got plenty of demons in his own closet that he's wrestling with every day?... Just like everybody else does.
For better or for worse, they are among the things that make me who I am today. The things that I can fix, I've either already fixed them, I'm working on fixing them, or they're goals on my never-ending to-do list. I'm not going to spend any time and mental energy worrying about feeling bad about those things that I can't fix. Those teeth are never going to grow back. Boo hoo.
The great thing about hitting rock bottom is that there's nowhere to go but up.
5 years, 5 months and 10 days sober. It's probably been 8 years now since I smoked weed.
I'm not worried about my future, and I spend a lot of my free time ACTUALLY helping friends, family and neighbors out instead of VIRTUALLY signalling how great I am on Twitter for likes.
I know there's still a lot of room for improvement.
I'm a work in progress.
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Quote:My father broke the rule about not smoking. He had excuses: Lucky Strikes and Camels were free to soldiers during WWII. He kept smoking, I remember it well, but then he stopped, years passed, and then he died. It was a huge surprise to him, but NOT TO ME, that quitting didn't mean my father would live a long life.
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The great thing about hitting rock bottom is that there's nowhere to go but up.
5 years, 5 months and 10 days sober. It's probably been 8 years now since I smoked weed.
I'm not worried about my future, and I spend a lot of my free time ACTUALLY helping friends, family and neighbors out instead of VIRTUALLY signalling how great I am on Twitter for likes.
I know there's still a lot of room for improvement.
I'm a work in progress.
He was absolutely certain that once he quit, the harm was soon left behind. This is a concept that a majority of humans misunderstand because they think they will be forgiven when they break any rules, mostly because rules don't instantly kill them. I have fought and worked and gone drinking/eating/recreating/gambling in places that will kill me today when the rules are broken, so I have a concrete and very different idea how reality works than most people.
Most people believe in their hearts, a religious belief they will be forgiven when they make "mistakes", but reality does NOT work that way. The man-made Universe I live in can be horrifyingly ugly and it has a perfect and unforgiving memory, and will make anybody poor, sad, sick and dead, despite them not remembering what they did wrong 5 years or more in the past.
May your past not catch up with you, 6ix. The universe is a random place where good luck is possible.
https://armyhistory.org/reflections-smoke-em-if-you-got-em/
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My father broke the rule about not smoking. He had excuses: Lucky Strikes and Camels were free to soldiers during WWII. He kept smoking, I remember it well, but then he stopped, years passed, and then he died. It was a huge surprise to him, but NOT TO ME, that quitting didn't mean my father would live a long life.
He was absolutely certain that once he quit, the harm was soon left behind. This is a concept that a majority of humans misunderstand because they think they will be forgiven when they break any rules, mostly because rules don't instantly kill them. I have fought and worked and gone drinking/eating/recreating/gambling in places that will kill me today when the rules are broken, so I have a concrete and very different idea how reality works than most people.
Most people believe in their hearts, a religious belief they will be forgiven when they make "mistakes", but reality does NOT work that way. The man-made Universe I live in can be horrifyingly ugly and it has a perfect and unforgiving memory, and will make anybody poor, sad, sick and dead, despite them not remembering what they did wrong 5 years or more in the past.
May your past not catch up with you, 6ix. The universe is a random place where good luck is possible.
My past has already caught up with me in many ways. I have less than 1/3rd of my teeth left. I have quite a few family and friends I'll likely never be talking to again (whether that's a bad thing or not in most cases is probably subjective though).
I'm under no illusion that I get any do-overs, and even if I were to quit now I probably already cut quite a few years off of my life. And unlike Dennis Leary joking that it's "the bad ones at the end that nobody wants", I know that isn't true and I'll still be stuck with those bad ones that nobody wants and I'm just shortening the amount of good ones I still have left in me every day I don't quit.
I mean, honestly, I really don't care much about that though. The "best" years are already behind me, and I wasted most of them. I'm never getting them back.
All I can do now is try to make the ones I have left as stress free and enjoyable as possible while helping out the small number of people I actually do care about.
I have no desire to live another 40 years. It would be nice to at least get a few years of Social Security payments and not be carting around an oxygen tank everywhere I go though.
At this point, I'm only about 10 years away from when the males in my family start dropping like flies. Except for two of them in the previous generation who have both reached retirement age, everybody else has died before they would have been able to retire.
And whether or not there is a Heaven and Hell, I'm okay with this.
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Quote:Being fatalistic is maybe your philosophy, although not one I find useful.
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And whether or not there is a Heaven and Hell, I'm okay with this.
Here is how the Supreme Court got to where it is on abortion:
President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act had mandated long overdue reform that contraception be covered by insurance at no extra cost to the employee. The owners of the craft supply chain Hobby Lobby sought to deny their employees this coverage, using their go-to claim that it violated their religious beliefs. Core to the plaintiffs’ case was the claim that the owners of Hobby Lobby believed that some kinds of contraception were “abortifacients.” This term was straight out of anti-abortion propagandist John Willke’s playbook. It suggested, with no grounding in medical fact, that birth control was tantamount to abortion. In a hotly contested 5-4 decision, the court ruled in favor of Hobby Lobby, opening the door to the erosion of all sorts of hard-won gains in the name of moral objection. Tellingly, the court’s majority wrote that the fact that birth control did not actually cause abortions was irrelevant in this context. For a violation of religious liberty to occur, the plaintiff must only believe that it could happen.
More about the 40-Year Plot to Undo Roe v. Wade at
https://web.archive.org/web/20220510191048/https://theintercept.com/20
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Single-minded pursuit of an end to abortion
If we are by now accustomed to discussing ulterior motives and the well-documented history of legislators using abortion rhetoric to consolidate the right, we speak less of how the rhetoric works: by triggering in its subjects a stomach-churning horror. Millions of Americans believe that their fellow citizens tolerate and participate in the ongoing mass extermination of human children. They go to sleep — as I did as a child — assuming that the next day will involve thousands of babies murdered in a medical setting, whereupon cynical adults will call these murders “choices.” It is a horror not only in its violence but in the way it frames social reality; a world of self-justificatory liars slaughtering the innocent, architects of a darkness on par with the Holocaust or slavery. The family given to this worldview is focused on the grisly death of a child against the harrowing idea of “a woman’s right,” the repetition of which becomes itself part of the nightmare. Every other call to humanity then becomes a kind of hypocrisy: How can you claim to care about some narrow issue of social justice when you condone this unspeakable violence? It is a darkness the democratic process is not particularly equipped to handle, in that it breaks the terms of negotiation. If you come to believe you live in a state that sanctions the routine murder of children, nearly anything can be justified in their defense. “Abortion is murder,” reads the old tagline for the radical activist group Operation Rescue. “Act like it.”
This directive is illuminating in that, for a long time, even anti-abortion groups did not act like it. They hadn’t yet captured a party.
More at https://www.thecut.com/article/marjorie-dannenfelser-abortion-roe-v-wa
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Could we all be at fault for this shit?
How did the mob get into this mess
Perhaps it was really Greatest Generation who caused all this, that Holly weirdo shit much-publicized murder known as the "Black Dahlia", that fucking ugly Lizard Queen of England owning most of the Land on Planet Earth? the Commie scumbag Fidel Castro, the pin up slut Bettie Page, Ayatollah Khomeini, that crackhead faggot with an out of tune jazz trumpet called Miles Davis that Satanic masonic Shriner Sammy Davids Jnr, Gerald Ford another Freemason Shriner, the Low IQ Robert Mugabe, and the senile Ronnie Raygun.
Maybe it was the silent Generation the type who gave us Gaddafi, a dead actress Sharon Tate, Jim Jones Kool Aid Juice and Jonestown?
should we thank the Retarded Boomers, its was the BOOMERS !! Boomer did all this Wacko Michael Jackson the pedo rumors surrounding Jacko, the Trump, Obama hot headed and smooth talk generation, Vlad Putin the killer an invader, Boomers gave us Pablo Escobar the drug runner, Whitney Houston out of her mind on crack, the ugly witch Madonna, the giant French Westler freak 88. André the Giant, the vaccines of Bill Gates, the scientology of John Travolta, Boomers gave us the Murdering OJ Simpson, the utter faggotry of Elton John and growing years of neo-liberalism and open borders and abortionism?
Was it the Millennials who did all this, the people wearing Che t-shirts Kim Jong-un types, they wasted their life on games made Pew Die Pie Big, that Amy Winehouse or Rihanna and a drunken Barbara Pierce Bush and Seth Rogan and Ivanka Trump were a thing for their time.
Could we blame Gen Z and the disgusting Kylie Jenner and her ugly rapper, the types who fawn over David Hogg?
Maybe what you see now is the slow push back, decades on garbage forced into magazine and tv, while West slowly entering a more heated and violent State of Collapse
More Terroristic Fire Bombs on their Way?
Is the Hollyweird Commiefornia Degenerate Programming Wearing Off For Some?
So the FBI that covered up for Epstein have nothing to say about Antifa Feminist Dyke Homosexual leftist protesters, some of them which have gone around with Fire Bombs and now outside the Supreme Court homes screeching Death Threats to their family? trying to intimidate Supreme Court Justices into their way of thinking on abortion, by throwing stuff into their property and screeching like demons right outside their personal homes?
Why was that woman doing that sick ritual with a Baby Doll ???
and why are they carrying out fire bomb terrorist attacks ???
We are told by Leftist Globalist Media to Blame US Christian Republicans again as some scapegoat, because Blue Dems equals good and Red Conservative type bad
...pick the retards from Team A Blue and Not the retards from Team B Republican
There is no other Position in the universe, there is no third Choice?
It would seem since the Dawn of Time Most Civilisation and Most Religions Held a Typically Negative View on Abortion, Numerous religious traditions have taken a stances in history, taboo and negative or a Sin or Murder by Christians, there are some Buddhists who have strict diets and are not even sure about unfertilized eggs...from a chicken, forbidden by the Bahá'í Faith, more than just a Christain thing its a Muslim thing a Jew thing a Hindu thing, hold that life begins at conception.
Classical Hindu texts strongly condemn abortion
Yet the Leftist Bolsevik cowards seem to only want to Attack Traditional Christian America, Sikhs explicitly prohibit the practice of 'kuri-mar' the Punjabi term which literally means "girl killing" but also encompasses female foeticide....so why are the Neo Lefties only Attacking American Christians?
When it comes to calling out Hindus or Jews or islam these Leftwing Atheists suddenly turn into the greatest fucking liars and cowards?
They only desire to flip everything over, utterly destroy the system, replace it with anything
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And whether or not there is a Heaven and Hell, I'm okay with this.
I'm not fatalistic.
I don't believe in predetermination.
I just have no desire to live much beyond my mid 60's is all.
Our bodies were never made for such things. Until technology allows us to live into our 80's while still maintaining our bodies of our 20's, I think it's pointless to postpone the inevitable.
If I haven't done what I wanted to do by 65, there's not much chance I'm going to get it done after then.
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Quote:The Bible has a different story than the one that you and anti-abortionists are selling as the Truth.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
It would seem since the Dawn of Time Most Civilisation and Most Religions Held a Typically Negative View on Abortion, Numerous religious traditions have taken a stances in history, taboo and negative or a Sin or Murder by Christians, there are some Buddhists who have strict diets and are not even sure about unfertilized eggs...from a chicken, forbidden by the Bahá'í Faith, more than just a Christain thing its a Muslim thing a Jew thing a Hindu thing, hold that life begins at conception.
Unfriendly reminder that the only thing the Bible says about abortion is how to perform one.
Life begins at birth — with the first breath (Gen 2:7).
https://biblehub.com/genesis/2-7.htm
Fetuses are not persons (Ex 21:22-25).
https://biblehub.com/context/exodus/21-22.htm
Fetuses should be aborted as proof of adultery (Numbers 5:11-31).
https://biblehub.com/context/numbers/5-11.htm
Life is not sacred (Deuteronomy 28:18-24).
https://biblehub.com/context/deuteronomy/28-18.htm
God will rip open pregnant mothers-to-be (2 Kings 8:12).
https://biblehub.com/2_kings/8-12.htm
Israelite King Menahem ripped open pregnant women (2 Kings 15:16).
https://biblehub.com/2_kings/15-16.htm
God will kill unborn fetuses (Isaiah 13:18).
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/13-18.htm
God will destroy fetuses in utero (Hosea 9:10-16).
https://biblehub.com/context/hosea/9-10.htm
God will dash infants in pieces and rip open pregnant women (Hosea 13:16).
https://biblehub.com/hosea/13-16.htm
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In Iran if a 12-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by her father, she must carry the baby to term, or be thrown in prison for life. Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.
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In Iran if a 12-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by her father, she must carry the baby to term, or be thrown in prison for life. Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.
Yeah. I don't think so.
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Second every time you try debate or attack me you make silly assumptions, you try debate here but once again you assume I'm American or something
I have told you guys many times I have been to America but I'm not an American, what if I told you I was Shinto or Pagan or Buddhist or from some Native Tribal Religion on some Samoa island, would you attack the same way?
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The Bible has a different story than the one that you and anti-abortionists are selling as the Truth.
Who said I was Anti-Abortion? did I state any true position on this yet
I am however against terrorist attacks and Firebombs
Why are you supporting the Attackers now screeching like demons and throwing stuff outside the Supreme Court family homes?
Second you claim to know your Bible or do you? Are you just picking the old Jewish Christ Killer stuff from a webpage or interweb site, every time you try to criticize Christians and their Christian writings you seem to pick bits from the Old Jew Bible, the old Hebrew parts, with God blasting cities into Dust and Moses in a basket and Egyptians dying
You claim to have a Bible but you never told me which version of Bible you read, there are many many Churches with their own Bible Canon.
However in every Christian Bible they seem to share similar canon or continuity, the guy Jesus Christ comes much later, You need to fast forward and move half way into the Bible book and find 4 canonical gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Acts of the Apostles, maybe epistles I think its called and finally you get a lot of explosions and fire and swords and boom going off and a lot of Doomsday Apocalypse bits in The Book of Revelation.
If you split a Bible into two halves, the first half of the Bible the Jew Hebrew Bible, the second half of the Bible is the Christian Bible.
and Second
if the Bible is a Baby Killing Book and You are Pro-Abortion
Then Why the Fuck are you still Attacking Christianity or the Bible?
Anyways I will assume you by family or education or community are linked WASP Anglican style church or episcopal church background in regards to your experience with the religion by the way you quote the books, Protestant Bibles Chronicle 1–2 Kings, instead of 1–4 Kings? "Martyrdom of Isaiah" is different in Armenian Church and I believe Roman Catholic books are starting to use the term Esaias for Isaiah. Maybe you had a Anglican Bible in the family home? in the protocanonicals writing continuity,
once again 'Kings' is the old Christ Killer Jew Bible.
Hosea Old-Testament Jew Hebrew Bible
Ascension of Isaiah again this is the old Jew Bible and I think most Christian Churches no longer consider the writing true or part of canon Christian continuity, the pages have simply vanished, 'Isaiah' however does exist as a story.
Deuteronomy, Exodus, Numbers, Genesis once again Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew this is the Tanakh the collection of Hebrew scriptures, including the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Ketuvim, it is first Jewish section of the Bible 'Christ Killer' section of the Bible.
So if the Church or Bible supports Abortion as you claim and you are PRO-ABORTION?
then why are you attacking it?
Maybe you jsut have 'issues'? Are you just schizo or you've some weird ptsd crazy thing inside your head something? Or do you just have utter contempt and blind hatred for the Bible and hatred for Christians?
You claim to know all religions very well and yet you can tell me nothing about them?
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Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.
So you're pro-islam, pro genital mutilation, support Rabbis biting the foreskins off babies, you support more islamic immigration and illegal immigrants, you are for the practice of Child Marriage in Africa and Hindu Sub Continent of India a practice that has mostly vanished from the West...but IMPORTANT thing is you're Anti-Alabama ... Ok Got It !
I have Never been to Alabama a state i
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So Yesterday I seen something like 10 seconds of a clip there was some guy, perhaps a Senator with one of those Middle America rural North accents, I'm not good on US accents or dialect ... America has sometimes strange accents that can blend together and move across State Lines and most Americans move States in their life so I don't think anyone's ears are good on US local accents but he might have been up near the Canada border, I thought there was something northern or rural about this voice maybe Idaho Wisconsin or maybe I'm wrong and it could be Deep South like old 'Dukes of Hazzard' tv shows. I only heard his voice a few second maybe Western, northern Mountain, Mid-West sounding but then again Washington does start to dillute people's accent, there was something farmland or rural area about him like 'President Johnson'. He was making a speech saying how they have all these Laws to Protect Unborn Turtle Reptiles or Eagle Birds still inside the womb or Egg, What in damned tarnation is going on, all these laws to protect Birds and Lizards.
He had a display behind him, in the film footage you had a pic maybe of a Bird diagram for a womb for something or a disply of Turtles Babies and he said you can't put stuff near them without getting arrested...but there is no Law to Protect the Human?
It was in a feed, I thought it made some kind of interesting point but clicked off and didnt watch.
US Global Leftwing Media must have seen the story...so they twist and spin
So then I see globalist Leftwing mocking bird media, already in full information warfare twisting and lying and distorting his words.
The headlines are reading something like -
EVIL Republicans compare women to sea turtles and eagles in speech against 19th Amendment right
Well you know what idiots, for most of human history women have been second class, and what do the media do, they try make everyone hysterical over nothing, constantly post bullshit and made up partisan bias and spin, stupid lying fictional stories while a bunch of Taliban beards drove America out and it won't take long before it all goes crashing down and your Ninteeth Vanishes with it
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Ok he was from 'Montana' and I'm not even going to link to any story from those scumbag spin doctor news websites, fuck them.
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Quote:Rethink because it is true: The Republican-dominated Senate backed the Alabama bill which outlaws nearly all abortions, including in cases of rape and incest. They have been emboldened after the top court swung conservative after President Donald Trump named two judges to it. In supporting the bill, Republican state Senator Clyde Chambliss admitted the whole point is "so that we can go directly to the Supreme Court to challenge Roe versus Wade."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
In Iran if a 12-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by her father, she must carry the baby to term, or be thrown in prison for life. Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.
Yeah. I don't think so.
Alabama passed the strictest abortion law in the United States on Wednesday, as Republican governor Key Ivey signed it into law. "To the bill's many supporters, this legislation stands as a powerful testament to Alabamians' deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from God," Ivey said in her statement.
(Republicans just couldn't keep quiet that this passed because God told them to do it. When God speaks, even non-believers will be forced to obey God's will. The Iranians, the Republicans, and the Taliban understand that God comes first, last, always in a Democracy. Separation of Church and State is no more. Those awful Democrats have to either obey God's will or go to prison.)
More at https://www.dw.com/en/alabama-to-ban-abortion-including-for-rape-and-i
ncest-cases/a-48740292
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Quote:This is NOT "stupid lying fictional stories":
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Well you know what idiots, for most of human history women have been second class, and what do the media do, they try make everyone hysterical over nothing, constantly post bullshit and made up partisan bias and spin, stupid lying fictional stories while a bunch of Taliban beards drove America out and it won't take long before it all goes crashing down and your Ninteeth Vanishes with it
and now the Neo-left is supporting Rioting Idiots attacking Churches, making threats to the Supreme Court Homes and throwing Firebombs into Buildings
The Horrifying Implications of Alito’s Most Alarming Footnote on Abortion
A “domestic supply of infants” is exactly what the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment intended to abolish. (The 14th Amendment ended trading children, just in case you didn't know the history of American slavery. Sometimes the children were traded for cash and sometimes the children were a gift to family or to friends in the plantation down the road.)
One of the most arresting lines in Justice Samuel Alito’s 98-page draft opinion reversing Roe v. Wade is a footnote that didn’t really surface until the weekend. A throwaway footnote on page 34 of the draft cites data from the CDC showing that in 2002, nearly 1 million women were seeking to adopt children, “whereas the domestic supply of infants relinquished at birth or within the first month of life and available to be adopted has become virtually nonexistent.” In response to the outrage and some misinformation, the conservative legal industrial complex went to great lengths to downplay it as a trivial footnote in a draft opinion; that Alito was citing the CDC and not himself; and that the note appears in a roundup of “people are saying” type arguments against abortion.
True. But the footnote reflects something profoundly wrong with the new “ethos of care” arguments advanced by Republicans who want to emphasize compassion instead of cruelty after the Dobbs fallout. Footnote 46, quantifying the supply/demand mismatch of babies, follows directly on another footnote in the opinion approvingly citing the “logic” raised at oral argument in December by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who mused that there is no meaningful hardship in conscripting women to remain pregnant and deliver babies in 2022 because “safe haven” laws allow them to drop those unwanted babies off at the fire station for other parents to adopt.
Second only to the creeping chatter of state birth control bans, the speedy pivot to celebrating forced birth and adoption is chilling. It’s chilling not just because it discounts the extortionate emotional and financial costs of childbirth and the increased medical risks of forced childbirth. It’s chilling because it lifts us out of a discussion about privacy and bodily autonomy and into a regime in which babies are a commodity and pregnant people are vessels in which to incubate them. If this sounds like a familiar, albeit noxious, economic concept– it’s because it is.
The economics of chattel slavery itself reflects a long sordid history of using women’s bodies to incubate babies for the benefit of others, and it’s no exaggeration to say that the Fourteenth Amendment’s guarantees of “substantive due process” – much derided by Republicans and Alito – was an effort to put an end that practice. References to “safe havens” and the depleted domestic supply of adoptable babies are terrifying because this is exactly what the Fourteenth Amendment sought to curtail.
The Fourteenth Amendment’s much-maligned “substantive due process” protections for family liberty and autonomy and child-rearing were intended to protect former slaves from the very practice of allowing the state to violate your marriage, impregnate your wife, and steal your babies in order to serve the interests of white masters. As NYU law school Professor Peggy Cooper Davis noted in a 1993 law review article, Neglected Stories and the Lawfulness of Roe v. Wade, t
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
In Iran if a 12-year-old girl is raped and impregnated by her father, she must carry the baby to term, or be thrown in prison for life. Wait, sorry, no. That's Alabama.
Yeah. I don't think so.
Alabama passed the strictest abortion law in the United States on Wednesday, as Republican governor Key Ivey signed it into law. "To the bill's many supporters, this legislation stands as a powerful testament to Alabamians' deeply held belief that every life is precious and that every life is a sacred gift from God," Ivey said in her statement.
(Republicans just couldn't keep quiet that this passed because God told them to do it. When God speaks, even non-believers will be forced to obey God's will. The Iranians, the Republicans, and the Taliban understand that God comes first, last, always in a Democracy. Separation of Church and State is no more. Those awful Democrats have to either obey God's will or go to prison.)
More at https://www.dw.com/en/alabama-to-ban-abortion-including-for-rape-and-i
ncest-cases/a-48740292
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This is how you people went from "Safe Legal and Rare" to "God Bless Abortions".
Can't you fucking Democrats ever take a WIN and leave it alone? Why do you always push everything to the INSANE EXTREME???
I will go on record stating my full conviction that in the ultra-fucking-super-rare event that some hick child rapist monster father puts a baby in his 12 year old girl that she shouldn't have to birth the child.
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A gunman disguised as a FedEx driver shot and killed the son of a federal judge and wounded her husband at their New Jersey home, during those whole weird celebrity stuff, German banks and Epstein, the gunman was found dead from suicide ... Salas was assigned to handle a class action lawsuit brought against Deutsche Bank by Ali Karimi on behalf of investors who purchased securities, Bank itself deemed to be high risk, including, among others, the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein,” federal court records show.’...then a home of a Judge Attacked?
judge wasn't killed. Her family was injured (husband) and they killed her son.
Now we have Antifa and crazy Feminists and Bolsevik mobs outside the Supreme Court homes
Would Biden and Kamala re-act the same
If it were not Antifa or BLM or gross Feminists
but
a bunch of Christian KKK type Rednecks were doing the same thing making threats outside the homes of Judges
Judge Esther Salas now fights to protect all judges after the death of her son
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/judge-esther-salas-fights-protect-061441560.
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Unfortunately, what will end up happening is that judges and police will end up being above the law when all the chips settle.
I fear the overreaction to the extreme insanity of the Left is going to be met with equal insanity by those on the Right and The People are all going to be paying for it.
I just wish that the Leftists would have listened to reason when I was doling it out, because now that the pendulum has started swinging the other way finally I'm afraid of how far it will swing.
I'd say that nobody wants the GWB years back, but let's not kid ourselves. They never went away. The Government grows more and more powerful every time it swings to the fringes, and they will never give any of that power back.
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Quote:Whether it’s the right painting Swastikas in blood on synagogues, or the left writing pro-choice slogans in chalk on Susan Collins’ driveway, both sides will stop at nothing to intimidate their opponents.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I fear the overreaction to the extreme insanity of the Left is going to be met with equal insanity by those on the Right and The People are all going to be paying for it.
I just wish that the Leftists would have listened to reason when I was doling it out, because now that the pendulum has started swinging the other way finally I'm afraid of how far it will swing.
As peaceful protesters camp outside the homes of Supreme Court justices after the leaked draft that would overturn Roe v. Wade, far-right activists are doxxing Democratic federal judges and calling for their assassination.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vzmp/telegram-far-right-doxxing-judg
es-calling-for-assassinations
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Whether it’s the right painting Swastikas in blood on synagogues, or the left writing pro-choice slogans in chalk on Susan Collins’ driveway, both sides will stop at nothing to intimidate their opponents.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I fear the overreaction to the extreme insanity of the Left is going to be met with equal insanity by those on the Right and The People are all going to be paying for it.
I just wish that the Leftists would have listened to reason when I was doling it out, because now that the pendulum has started swinging the other way finally I'm afraid of how far it will swing.
Why not say "Whether it's the right painting Swastikas in blood on synagogues, or the left burning down cities, both sides will stop at nothing to intimidate their opponents?
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As peaceful protesters camp outside the homes of Supreme Court justices after the leaked draft that would overturn Roe v. Wade, far-right activists are doxxing Democratic federal judges and calling for their assassination.
Your bullshit takes are so hypocritical.
You sat there calling the Freedom Convoy terrorists when there wasn't a single instance over months that had even a hint of a violent turn until the police came in and started beating and trampling people, and you completely neglect to talk about how pro-choice extremists fire bombed a building in Wisconsin last week. You were pratically celebrating Taylor Lorenz doxxing LibsOfTikTok only weeks after she was crying about being doxxed and bullied herself.
There are wack jobs on both sides of this. They ALL need to be punished for their crimes.
You keep turning a blind eye to this because of your politics and your not going to like the truly totalitarian government we end up getting.
I know I won't.
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The Lancet — one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world — is out with a forceful statement about Roe v. Wade *on the cover*.
"If the US Supreme Court confirms its draft decision, women will die. The Justices who vote to strike down Roe will not succeed in ending abortion, they will only succeed in ending safe abortion. Alito and his supporters will have women's blood on their hands."
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)008
70-4/fulltext
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The Lancet — one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world — is out with a forceful statement about Roe v. Wade *on the cover*.
lol @ prestigious.
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"If the US Supreme Court confirms its draft decision, women will die. The Justices who vote to strike down Roe will not succeed in ending abortion, they will only succeed in ending safe abortion. Alito and his supporters will have women's blood on their hands."
The Lancet has baby blood on their hands.
So do you.
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Originally posted by second:
The Lancet — one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world — is out with a forceful statement about Roe v. Wade *on the cover*.
lol @ prestigious.Quote:
"If the US Supreme Court confirms its draft decision, women will die. The Justices who vote to strike down Roe will not succeed in ending abortion, they will only succeed in ending safe abortion. Alito and his supporters will have women's blood on their hands."
The Lancet has baby blood on their hands.
So do you.
The Supreme Court majority opinion actually allows any State legislature to overturn any old federal law and any old Supreme Court decision, on any subject, not just abortion. Justice Clarence Thomas made that clear 19 years ago. If the governor of a state wants to cancel a federal law, or wants to do something a federal law does not permit, the governor can do it if Clarence Thomas and four more Supreme Court justices also like the governor's idea.
After Overturning Roe v Wade, is it Clarence Thomas’s court now?
When the U.S. Supreme Court reversed itself in 2003 to strike down Texas’ ban on gay sex, two justices wrote very different dissenting opinions.
Most of the press attention focused on the longer of the two, by Justice Antonin Scalia, who read it word for word from the bench. He argued in some cases “discrimination is a constitutional right,” and called the court’s ruling “a massive disruption of the current social order.” He predicted the collapse of laws against adultery, bigamy, gay marriage, fornication and adult incest — and bestiality and obscenity, too.
“This effectively decrees the end of all morals legislation,” he wrote in his dissent in Lawrence v. Texas, the case arising from the arrest of John Geddes Lawrence and Tyron Garner by police who barged into their east Harris County apartment after a jealous ex-boyfriend had falsely reported a disturbance.
Nineteen years later, as the court appears set to overturn Roe v. Wade, Scalia’s thundering dissent no longer seems as important as a second dissent delivered that day, the one by Justice Clarence Thomas in far quieter language and spanning only two paragraphs. In our current moment, it may signal what lies ahead now that Justice Samuel Alito’s draft opinion in a pivotal Mississippi abortion case has been leaked.
In Lawrence, Thomas joined Scalia’s dissent, but wrote separately that although he found Texas’ law criminalizing sodomy by adults “silly,” and a waste of law enforcement resources, he believed nothing in the Constitution gave him the power to strike it down.
“I can find neither in the Bill of Rights nor any other part of the Constitution a general right of privacy,” he wrote, borrowing language from Justice Potter Stewart’s 1965 dissent in Griswold v. Connecticut, which granted adults the right to marital privacy and laid the groundwork for Roe v. Wade.
For all of Scalia’s overheated rhetoric, the legendary conservative justice was right that Lawrence would help usher in a wave of decisions striking down so-called morals legislation, and lead to gay marriage, among other outcomes. Yet it is that single sentence of Thomas’ that most accurately foreshadowed the vulnerability of Roe and perhaps other landmark decisions that hinged on past courts’ presumption of a right to privacy under the Constitution.
Alito doesn’t specifically say in his recently leaked draft, as Thomas did 19 years ago, that the right to privacy does not exist because the word cannot be found in the text of the Constitution.
Instead, he concludes that any right to privacy doesn’t extend to abortion.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220515125403/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/opinion/outlook/article/Essay-After-Roe-are-the-rights-to-gay-marriage-17172290.php
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That response not only didn't have anything to do with what I posted that you quoted, but it didn't have anything to do with what you posted that I quoted that you quoted.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That response not only didn't have anything to do with what I posted that you quoted, but it didn't have anything to do with what you posted that I quoted that you quoted.
Is second still supporting t he Abortionists and their Fire Bombings ??
Mobs of Bolseviks and open borders Lesbo Feminists following Supreme Court stalking their homes, throwing stuff and making death threats to their family?
and yet
There must also be big business in creating hoaxes?
or dumb hoax attention whore fucks can never draw a swastika properly
Why are these Hoaxers unable to make a Swastika, are they unable to look up a video game for reference, how to draw a swastika? or maybe too dumb to look at a history book or reference the design from Spielberg movie?
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Whether it’s the [ JUSSIE SMOLLETT Bolsevik Rabbi Leftwing ] painting Hate Crime hoax Swastikas in blood on synagogues?
Hey second can you explain what's going on with all these hate crime hoaxes
Dozens killed every weekend in Leftist Utopias like Chicago, LA, NewYork, Baltimore
Even when a crazy 'White Power' nutjob goes on a mass shooting he still can't get a higher kill score than a typical day in Chicago?
...so they have to invent Hate Crime hoaxes out of thing air
You would think they would at least learn to make a correct Swastika and not some weird backwards looking cross thing from India or Thailand?
https://reason.com/2019/04/25/anti-semitic-hate-crime-winnipeg-hoax/
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/26/canada-cafe-swastikas-hate-crime/
https://www.thecollegefix.com/judges-tosses-students-hate-crime-hoax-c
onviction-on-first-amendment-grounds/
http://www.unz.com/sbpdl/hate-crime-hoax-black-ex-nfl-player-arrested-
for-vandalizing-his-own-business-in-metro-atlanta-with-anti-black-anti-semitic-pro-trump-graffiti/
https://reclaimthenet.org/babylon-bee-founder-snopes-dishonest-fact-ch
ecking/
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=15094
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/another-one-bites-the-dust-dreadlock-gir
l-hate-crime-is-exposed-as-a-hoax/
https://barenakedislam.com/2019/11/23/hey-cair-now-we-know-the-rest-of
-the-story/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/03/us/kalamazoo-high-school-noose-trnd/ind
ex.html
https://culturewatchnews.com/michelle-obama-is-freaking-out-after-a-ju
dges-ruling-could-tie-her-to-a-hate-crime-hoax/
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/mans-apple-watch-proves-he-lied-about-anti
-semitic-stabbing-in-west-bloomfield
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/another-hate-crime-hoax-oregon-pol
itician-admits-mailing-himself-racist-letter
https://www.minds.com/media/1079478852517756928
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/feds-close-investigation-yet-anoth
er-hate-crime-hoax
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/07/oregon_politicians_hate_c
rime_hoax_blows_up_in_his_face.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/feds-close-investigation-yet-anoth
er-hate-crime-hoax
https://www.dailywire.com/news/hate-crime-hoax-student-claims-he-found
-racist-notes-on-his-car-police-say-he-wrote-them?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/feds-close-investigation-yet-anoth
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Quote:I have seen this kind of answer from supercilious construction craftsmen (generally angry poor white trash) and the only way to change their minds is hinting that the next words out of the boss-man's mouth will be "You're fired" unless the craftsman understands PDQ. Most of the time the craftsman will make an effort to understand, rather than continuing to run his stupid mouth. It turns out that the stupider craftsmen think they are the smartest. P.S. They wonder why they are frequently unemployed despite being so smart.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That response not only didn't have anything to do with what I posted that you quoted, but it didn't have anything to do with what you posted that I quoted that you quoted.
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It thinks it's smart and it thinks people believes it has money.
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Quote:During a House hearing, the GOP demonized patients and doctors with QAnon-style conspiracy theories
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It thinks it's smart and it thinks people believes it has money.
"In places like Washington D.C.," fetuses are "burned to power the light's of the city's homes and streets," claimed Catherine Glenn Foster, who had, just minutes before, sworn not to lie under oath. The GOP-summoned witness let loose the wild and utterly false accusation that municipal electrical companies are powered by incinerated fetuses.
"The next time you turn on the light, think of the incinerators," she said, apparently repeating a misleading talking point from the same anti-choice activists caught stashing fetuses at home.
Foster is not some random nut that Republicans pulled off a soapbox at a subway station minutes before the hearing started. She is a Georgetown law school graduate who is paid $190,000 a year to be the president of Americans United for Life, one of the largest anti-abortion non-profits in the country. So it's not surprising that Foster believed she would get away with this absurd nonsense. Hers was merely one of a truly overwhelming number of lies that poured out of Republican lawmakers and witnesses alike throughout the course of Wednesday's hearing.
As their actual political views become harder to defend on the merits, Republicans increasingly embrace conspiracy theories and urban legends to justify the unjustifiable.
Republicans pretended progressives don't know what a "woman" is. They insisted that the mere existence of abortion shows that birth control efforts are useless. (On the contrary, the abortion rate has gone down as birth control access has improved.) They pretended, over and over, that the issue at hand was only late-term abortions. In reality, the abortion bans being passed start at two weeks after a missed period, if not sooner. And then there was the repulsive contributions of Rep. Mike Johnson of Louisiana, who pretended that women wait until they go into labor and then abort the pregnancy right before the baby is born. Having made this lie up, he then berated Alabama-based OB-GYN Dr. Yashica Robinson for the existence of a procedure that, quite literally, only happens in his bizarre fantasies. (Thanks to Charles Pierce at Esquire for the transcript.)
Johnson: Do you support the right of a woman who is just seconds away from birthing a healthy child to have an abortion?
Robinson: I think that the question you're asking does not realistically reflect abortion care —
Johnson: In that scenario, would you support her right to abort that child?
Robinson: I won't entertain theoretical —
Johnson: It's not a theoretical, ma'am. You are a medical doctor.
Anti-choicers love this hypothetical of a woman who aborts during labor.
Indeed it is not hypothetical — it is entirely fantastical. Johnson's showboating was the equivalent of berating a doctor over unicorn horn removal surgery. But Johnson, eager to talk about anything but the realities of abortion care, continued to play this game. He went on to insist that Robinson answer for killing a baby "halfway out of the birth canal," forcing her to pointedly remind him that actual murder is already illegal.
More at https://www.salon.com/2022/05/19/fetus-powered-street-lamps-ramp-up-ou
trageous-anti-abortion-lies-ahead-of-roes-demise/
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All you Democrats have now is Russia and Abortion.
Too bad for you that with the American economy being in the state it is, none of the Citizenry is on board with giving $40 Billion taxpayer dollars to Ukraine, and even though the war-mongering Neo-Con politicians were all-in on it too, the Democrats are going to take the blame.
Also too bad for you that the only people who give a shit about Abortion with the economy being in the state it is in were the die-hard Leftists that were never going to vote any other way in the first place.
You'd better figure something else out by November if you're not going to fix the economy.
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P.S. The more intelligent of you out there are going to live to regret stealing the 2020 election as well, because even though we'd all be in better financial shape than we are right now with Biden* a lot of the economic shitstorm and shipping problems would have still manifested after 2 years of Democrat states locking down everything on Trump's watch.
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Quote:I hate to sa it, but that sounds like JO.
Originally posted by second:Quote:I have seen this kind of answer from supercilious construction craftsmen (generally angry poor white trash) and the only way to change their minds is hinting that the next words out of the boss-man's mouth will be "You're fired" unless the craftsman understands PDQ. Most of the time the craftsman will make an effort to understand, rather than continuing to run his stupid mouth. It turns out that the stupider craftsmen think they are the smartest. P.S. They wonder why they are frequently unemployed despite being so smart.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That response not only didn't have anything to do with what I posted that you quoted, but it didn't have anything to do with what you posted that I quoted that you quoted.
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I hope he's doing OK.
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Quote:Regret stealing the 2020 election? Another false accusation not different than a Republican Congressman at an abortion law hearing.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The more intelligent of you out there are going to live to regret stealing the 2020 election as well
There's nothing surprising about this turn towards false tales about fetus-powered street lamps and women demanding abortions during labor.
Want to ban schoolchildren from reading about Martin Luther King Jr.? Just falsely claim that something called "critical race theory" is being taught to school kids and use that as cover.
Want to rile up the GOP going into the midterms? Just falsely claim that Democrats are conspiring to "replace" white Christians with people of different races, a conspiracy theory repeated hundreds of times on Fox News.
Of course, in the latter case, the cost is paid in blood. We've seen repeated mass murders as a result of this "great replacement" conspiracy theory, with the latest in Buffalo, New York.
Lately, Republicans have accused their political opponents of "grooming" children, which is basically just a way of saying all Democrats are pedophiles.
The purpose of this kind of rhetoric is to paint your opponents — or in many cases, your actual targets — as subhuman and therefore deserving of any abuse you dish out, including violence.
The abortion debate is how conservatives honed the art of monstrous false accusations in order to dehumanize their opponents. Falsely accusing doctors and abortion patients of "murder" has been standard conservative rhetoric for decades, and the human cost has been staggering:
1) Assassinations of doctors,
https://www.salon.com/2011/04/17/the_murder_of_dr_george_tiller/
2) the bombing of clinics
https://www.salon.com/1999/03/18/newsb_80/
3) mass shootings of patients.
https://www.salon.com/2015/11/30/sorry_conservatives_but_there_is_noth
ing_surprising_about_anti_choice_terrorism/
A Republican lose an election? Then falsely accuse the Democrats of stealing. Then Republicans invade the Capitol Building and kill people. . . .
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