Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Seriously? Are you crazy, Signym? Or are you a Russian propagandist? Meanwhile:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, at this point people who vote Dem are either poor resentful blacks, poor Hispanics, resentful women, LGBTQX activists, or virtue-signalling white males. Hardly the kind of attitude groups on which to build a better nation.
If you love America and care about Americans .... and clearly, you DON'T ... you would reward hard work, a positive attitude, realism, and a concern for all Americans equally. That would build a strong, independent, and properous nation.
Instead, you obviously hate America and most Americans. You hate people who expect to be rewarded for working, and you care far more about Ukraine/ Russia/ Vietnam/ blacks/ LGBTQ/ illegal immigrants/ (fill in the blank) splinter groups. And in reality you promote virtue-signalling rentier money-grubbers.
A data set of nearly eight million articles about Ukraine collected from more than 8,000 Russian websites since 2014 shows that references to Nazism were relatively flat for eight years and then spiked to unprecedented levels on Feb. 24, the day Russia invaded Ukraine. They have remained high ever since.
The data, provided by Semantic Visions, a defense analytics company, includes major Russian state media outlets in addition to thousands of smaller Russian websites and blogs. It gives a view of Russia’s attempts to justify its attack on Ukraine and maintain domestic support for the ongoing war by falsely portraying Ukraine as being overrun by far-right extremists.
News stories have falsely claimed that Ukrainian Nazis are using noncombatants as human shields, killing Ukrainian civilians and planning a genocide of Russians.
The strategy was most likely intended to justify what the Kremlin hoped would be a quick ouster of the Ukrainian government, said Larissa Doroshenko, a researcher at Northeastern University who studies disinformation. “It would help to explain why they’re establishing this new country in a sense,” Dr. Doroshenko said. “Because the previous government were Nazis, therefore they had to be replaced.”
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2022/07/03/how-the-russian-media-spre
ad-false-claims-about-nazis-in-ukraine/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:For chrissake, SECOND, can't you STOP DIVERTING for even ONE SENTENCE? You are clearly waging some sort of proaganda "war". Yanno, like CAPON, only nuttier.
SIGNYM:
SECOND, at this point people who vote Dem are either poor resentful blacks, poor Hispanics, resentful women, LGBTQX activists, or virtue-signalling white males. Hardly the kind of attitude groups on which to build a better nation.
If you love America and care about Americans .... and clearly, you DON'T ... you would reward hard work, a positive attitude, realism, and a concern for all Americans equally. That would build a strong, independent, and properous nation.
Instead, you obviously hate America and most Americans. You hate people who expect to be rewarded for working, and you care far more about Ukraine/ Russia/ Vietnam/ blacks/ LGBTQ/ illegal immigrants/ (fill in the blank) splinter groups. And in reality you promote virtue-signalling rentier money-grubbers.
SECOND: Seriously? Are you crazy, Signym? Or are you a Russian propagandist?
Quote:All of this is clearly explainable by news cycles.
Meanwhile:
A data set of nearly eight million articles about Ukraine collected from more than 8,000 Russian websites since 2014 shows that references to Nazism were relatively flat for eight years an...
But what does this have to do with caring about AMERICA? Every time loving America comes up, you start banging on about Trump, or Russia, or the Confederacy, or Russia, or the poor illegal aliens, or Trump, or Russia, or the poor illegal aliens, or slavery, or Russia...
One could imagine that caring about America is toxic to you, or something.
Well, I have more interesting things to do than this.
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This is the topic that SECOND is avoiding.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, at this point people who vote Dem are either poor resentful blacks, poor Hispanics, resentful women, LGBTQX activists, or virtue-signalling white males. Hardly the kind of attitude groups on which to build a better nation.
If you love America and care about Americans .... and clearly, you DON'T ... you would reward hard work, a positive attitude, realism, and a concern for all Americans equally. That would build a strong, independent, and properous nation.
Instead, you obviously hate America and most Americans. You hate people who expect to be rewarded for working, and you care far more about Ukraine/ Russia/ Vietnam/ blacks/ LGBTQ/ illegal immigrants/ (fill in the blank) splinter groups. And in reality you promote virtue-signalling rentier money-grubbers.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:Ukrainians see this war as pretty simple: Russians invaded their country and Ukrainians are gonna kill 'em to persuade 'em to leave Ukraine. But Russians see Ukraine as Russian, which makes it incomprehensible to Russians why the locals want to kill Russians. It must be the locals who are loco, at least from the viewpoint of Russians. See the scholarly article about Putin’s claims that Ukraine and Russia are ‘one people’ https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/ukraine-history-fact-checking-put
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:All of this is clearly explainable by news cycles.
Meanwhile:
A data set of nearly eight million articles about Ukraine collected from more than 8,000 Russian websites since 2014 shows that references to Nazism were relatively flat for eight years an...
But what does this have to do with caring about AMERICA? Every time loving America comes up, you start banging on about Trump, or Russia, or the Confederacy, or Russia, or the poor illegal aliens, or Trump, or Russia, or the poor illegal aliens, or slavery, or Russia...
One could imagine that caring about America is toxic to you, or something.
Well, I have more interesting things to do than this.
in-513812/
I could draw parallels between Ukrainians/Russians and Democrats/Trumptards, but why bother? I don't think Trumptards can understand any better than Russians can understand that Ukraine is not theirs. Trumptards are claiming to own America, nevertheless, it is not theirs. There is obviously, and very visibly, a wrongness with Trumptards which they can't recognize about themselves, but sure as hell is revealed in economic terms: Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide?
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/11/09/biden-voting-coun
ties-equal-70-of-americas-economy-what-does-this-mean-for-the-nations-political-economic-divide/
Look at 6ix. He is the quintessential Trumptard, bragging that he is not angry poor white trash and bragging he lives on $18/day, pays no income tax, and will never work again. The Trumptards I know who do work are almost as worthless at work as 6ix, but exactly like 6ix, they don't know that about themselves. All the problems Trumptards have will grow because they lack understanding that they are solely the cause of their own problems. See 6ix's craziness, addictness, toothlessness, unemployableness, and unmarriageableness. Government cannot fix what is wrong with Trumptards. Luckily, Ukrainians can fix what is wrong with Russians. Too bad for Russians about the details of the fixing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, at this point people who vote Dem are either poor resentful blacks, poor Hispanics, resentful women, LGBTQX activists, or virtue-signalling white males. Hardly the kind of attitude groups on which to build a better nation.
If you love America and care about Americans .... and clearly, you DON'T ... you would reward hard work, a positive attitude, realism, and a concern for all Americans equally. That would build a strong, independent, and properous nation.
Instead, you obviously hate America and most Americans. You hate people who expect to be rewarded for working, and you care far more about Ukraine/ Russia/ Vietnam/ blacks/ LGBTQ/ illegal immigrants/ (fill in the blank) splinter groups. And in reality you promote virtue-signalling rentier money-grubbers.
Nope, I'm in the right thread. It's you comrade who are not.
T
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Almost didn't notice this thread got to 1,000 posts.
Seems like it got derailed long ago.
I go days without hearing M$M mentioning Ukraine or Putin. They gotta gin up baby Covid before another round of Election Theft.
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Quote:You cant lump all Ukrainians together. A significant minority are happy with the "invasion" and are, in fact, fighting alongside Russians.
SECOND: Meanwhile:
A data set of nearly eight million articles about Ukraine collected from more than 8,000 Russian websites since 2014 shows that references to Nazism were relatively flat for eight years an...
SIGNY: All of this is clearly explainable by news cycles.
But what does this have to do with caring about AMERICA? Every time loving America comes up, you start banging on about Trump, or Russia, or the Confederacy, or Russia, or the poor illegal aliens, or Trump, or Russia, or the poor illegal aliens, or slavery, or Russia...
One could imagine that caring about America is toxic to you, or something.
Well, I have more interesting things to do than this.
SECOND Ukrainians...
Once again, you misrepresent the actual situation.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I must be in the wrong thread?
Most of the time, yes.
*****
Ya gotta admit, THUGR, you walked into that one!
I can see where Ted got confused. Second can't stop talking about me.
I think it's love.
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Quote:Did Putin misrepresent the actual situation?
Originally posted by SignyM:
You cant lump all Ukrainians together. A significant minority are happy with the "invasion" and are, in fact, fighting alongside Russians.
Once again, you misrepresent the actual situation.
Putin undermined his own rationale for invading Ukraine, saying that the war is to expand Russian territory
Putin said on Thursday that the Ukraine invasion is about expanding Russian territory.
Before, Putin insisted that Russia was freeing Ukraine from so-called Nazis and preventing genocide.
Putin said it was his destiny to "return and reinforce" Russia like Peter the Great did.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said publicly for the first time on Thursday that his invasion of Ukraine is about expanding Russian territory, which Western leaders have long maintained.
To date, Putin has justified the invasion by saying, baselessly, that he's preventing Ukraine and what he described as a neo-Nazi government from committing genocide against ethnic Russians. He has also said that NATO's eastward expansion threatens Russia's national security.
Putin, speaking with students on Thursday after visiting an exhibition about Peter the Great, Russia's first emperor credited with making the country a major power in the early 18th century, compared himself to the ruler and said they were both destined to expand Russia.
"Clearly, it fell to our lot to return and reinforce as well," he said. "And if we operate on the premise that these basic values constitute the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in achieving our goals."
In addition to seizing territory in a 21-year war with Sweden in the late 17th century, Peter captured the territory of Azov from Crimean Tatars, who were aligned with Turkey, in 1696, and he seized territory on the Caspian Sea from Persia in 1723.
"On the face of it, he was at war with Sweden taking something away from it," Putin said of Peter. "He was returning and reinforcing, that is what he was doing."
In a tweet on Friday, Mykhailo Podolyak, an advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, said Putin's comments prove his "contrived pretexts of people's genocide" in Ukraine were false and demanded "immediate de-imperialization" of Russia.
Putin's attempts to expand Russian territory started long before his invasion of Ukraine on February 24. Putin invaded Georgia in 2008 and still backs pro-Kremlin factions there. In 2014, Russia annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine and invaded the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine via proxies that same year.
Just two days before invading Ukraine, Putin said claims he wanted to restore the Russian empire were false. But Western leaders have long maintained that this was not the case.
"He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, reestablish the former Soviet Union. That's what this is about," President Joe Biden said on February 24, the first day of the invasion.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-says-ukraine-war-seize-land-russ
ia-undermines-rationale-2022-6
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Quote:The people I know who voted for Trump twice, or more, were struggling through life long before Trump became a politician. I don't know what 6ix is because I have never been near 6ix, but I sure know what kind of people Trumptards are: the women are obnoxious and ignorant and the men are incompetent and crooked and both are proud of it. I have not meet all the Trumptards in America, but because of my large sample size of Trumptards, I am confident that their character is the cause of their troubled lives. But Trumptards don't want to believe that about themselves as a matter of pride. Therefore, they blame Democrats. Russia is loaded up with people who have the same flawed character as the Trumptards, except it is Putin, not Trump, they give authority to. And who do the Russians blame, instead of themselves, for their troubled lives? NATO, EU, UK, USA, Ukraine.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I must be in the wrong thread?
Most of the time, yes.
*****
Ya gotta admit, THUGR, you walked into that one!
I can see where Ted got confused. Second can't stop talking about me.
I think it's love.
A certain rich man lumped the two things together for the 4th of July. Ray Dalio has hit out at political extremes in the U.S. that don’t respect a rules-based system, and warned that Russia is likely to be the “lesser loser” from the Ukraine war as the economic cost to the West causes NATO support to fracture.
The founder of Bridgewater Associates, the world’s largest hedge fund with about $150 billion under management, took to Linkedin on the U.S. Independence Day holiday to deliver an update on the forces he believes are shaping the world.
And he’s not happy with how things are going in the U.S.
“The remarkable leaders who designed the governance system [after the 1776 declaration of independence] and laid it out in the Constitution created both a principled and practical approach that thus far has lasted for nearly 250 years,” Dalio wrote.
But now, some of the essential elements required for representative democracies to work well are being called into question, he noted, such as abiding by election votes and rulings of the Supreme Court.
“With increasing conflict between populists of the right and populists of the left, growing numbers of people are inclined to fight for what they want and what they believe is right rather that work themselves through the rules-based system of consensus and compromise that our Founding Fathers designed.”
Meanwhile, the world order is not changing for the better, implied Dalio, if the conflict in Ukraine is a guide.
If Russian President Vladimir Putin ends up controlling the eastern part of Ukraine and manages to remain on the world stage then Russia would be a “lesser loser,” Dalio reckoned.
“Because the devastation in Ukraine has been so much greater than it has been in Russia, and because this will be economically costly to Ukraine and/or those countries that will pay to have it rebuilt, the war looks like it will be even more costly to NATO countries, so that also will be relative win for Russia,” he added.
In summary he said: “It appears that few countries are lining up strongly against Russia and behind NATO countries, and it appears that support within NATO countries for war is weakening due to its relatively high costs.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ray-dalio-attacks-u-s-populists-and-
warns-russia-may-be-lesser-loser-in-ukraine-war-11656948778
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'They behave like barbarians:' Ukraine's chief war crimes investigator sees few prospects for reconciliation with Russians
KYIV, Ukraine – As Russia has escalated its use of imprecise Soviet-era missiles against civilian infrastructure, Ukraine's top legal official said she doesn't see how ordinary Ukrainians and Russians can achieve reconciliation until Moscow "asks for forgiveness, pays reparations to the state" and ensures "all its war criminals are in prison."
Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova was speaking exclusively to USA TODAY from her office in Ukraine's capital, where she is coordinating the work of hundreds of Ukrainian and international war crimes investigators and specialists. Her aim is to hold Russia's military and senior officials accountable for alleged indiscriminate missile strikes and shelling, civilian assassinations, torture, sexual violence, repeated assaults on hospitals, and for denying civilians access to food, water and humanitarian aid.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/they-behave-like-barbarians-ukrai
ne-s-chief-war-crimes-investigator-sees-few-prospects-for-reconciliation-with-russians/ar-AAZcSXc
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The people I know who voted for Trump twice, or more, were struggling through life long before Trump became a politician. I don't know what 6ix is because I have never been near 6ix,
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I must be in the wrong thread?
Most of the time, yes.
*****
Ya gotta admit, THUGR, you walked into that one!
I can see where Ted got confused. Second can't stop talking about me.
I think it's love.
Oh good. You're learning. Because I have a few hundred posts from you here where you seemed pretty convinced you had me pegged, while then writing a wall of text that doesn't apply at all to me.
Oh... wait. You probably did that here too. I don't read your dumb shit anymore.
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
Well... not MISSING them.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes... And I can imagine most Americans can say the same thing, which is why we need two adults working in most households and they still rack up credit card debt to "pay" for everything.
I'm going to go wrap up the electric in my garage and clean it all up. I've got to have a spot to put the brand new shiny shed door that I bought with cash to sit until my friend's dad comes over to pay off some of the favors he owes me and we get it installed.
Have fun today at work to pay off all that shit you bought that you don't need for anything other than to impress your rich Democrat "friends", honey.
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Originally posted by second:
'They behave like barbarians:' Ukraine's chief war crimes investigator...
Yep, more secondhand bullshit from SECOND.
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No transcripts of Putin's speeches?
Putin commonly speaks AT LENGTH, but western "journalists" hyperfocus on, literally, a snippet, ignoring the main thrust and spinning a preferred narrative. Selective reporting is a propagandists' favorite tool.
That snippet
Quote:
... will be viewed as both a thinly-veiled threat to the Baltic States of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania which fear he will launch war on them once he is done with Ukraine, and to Sweden and Finland as the two countries bid to join NATO.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10902225/Swedish-King-Finnish
-president-rushed-Baltic-island-hours-Putin-issued-veiled-threat.html
A threat, not an intention.
It is a reminder to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania, Poland etc that they have been at war with Russia over the centuries, the border has moved back and forth between the rise and fall of various dynasties (Did you know there was a Polish-Lithuanin empire that invaded Russia? Well, now you do.) and if these nations continue to threaten Russia's security, the borders may move once again.
I would not interpret this as anything more than a restatement that Russia intends to ensure its security by whatever means the west makes necessary.
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Pity would be no more,
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I would not interpret this as anything more than a restatement that Russia intends to ensure its security by whatever means the west makes necessary.
"Even if it means being incredibly stupid and making things worse." - Putin
Yeah, look what killing innocent Ukrainian civilians just to grab a piece of land has gotten Russia: NATO & the US investing billions to arm Ukraine. Killing their own economy and devastating their place in the world all while clamping down on the few freedoms their citizens enjoy (like putting a lid on a simmering pot). Name me one other autocratic regime that has survived that? North Korea? China? Any others? You sure can pick 'em Ziggy.
You act like there was only one (very stupid) way to achieve Russian Security, by stealing it. You think just like a Russian.
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Putin’s War Was Never About NATO
Russia makes its own choices — however bad they are.
By Natalia Antonova, July 5, 2022, 1:49 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/05/putin-russia-ukraine-war-nato/
As NATO met in Madrid last week, conspiracy theories about its role in Ukraine spread fast in Russian media. More respected theorists such as John Mearsheimer, meanwhile, still reiterate their claim that in making war, Russia was merely reacting to the West. Similar arguments have been put forth by other prominent thinkers, including Noam Chomsky.
There’s just one problem with this theory. At an event in June, leaning back casually in his chair, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that in Ukraine, he is fighting a war of imperialist conquest—not defending himself against NATO, as his apologists have repeatedly claimed.
“It is also our lot to return and strengthen,” Putin stated, referring to past Russian conquests, as he compared his legacy to that of Peter the Great.
The Russian president had already said before the invasion that he did not believe Ukraine was a real country, claiming that Ukrainians were part of Russia’s “own history, culture, and spiritual space.”
Since that was ignored by his apologists, Putin has now explicitly stated that he identifies with Peter—even if his Great Northern War against the Swedes did last 21 years, a not-so-subtle signal that Putin believes he can dig in with regard to Ukraine—and is inspired to “take back” what he believes to be rightfully Russia’s.
In this conception of regional history, Ukraine doesn’t even exist. It’s simply a province occupied by uppity serfs who need to be subdued for their own good.
Experts who should know better often frame Putin as a noble savage, not a savvy political actor. He is portrayed as strong and terrifying but also not responsible for his own actions. Instead, per the “realists,” as they call themselves, these actions are the inevitable outcomes of Russia’s so-called security concerns.
At the root of this is a deeply patronizing attitude toward Russia and Russians themselves. Only Americans, in this framing, make choices; everyone else merely responds or acts in accordance with the machinery of immutable state rules.
In order to hold someone responsible for their actions, you must first grant them agency. Mearsheimer, Chomsky, and German politicians who have dragged their feet on supplying heavy arms to Ukraine are refusing to do a very simple thing: recognize that Russia, all on its own, chose to invade a sovereign country and butcher its citizens. There was nothing compelling Russia to pick this war—or the 2014 war. Prior to 2014, the majority of Ukrainians did not want to be in NATO, and between 2008 and 2010, 88 to 93 percent of Ukrainians held positive views of Russia.
If Russia wanted Ukraine in its orbit, it could have chosen the path of economic incentives, political cooperation, and genuine aid. Instead, the Russian leadership chose imperial fantasies, demonizing Ukrainians on state TV, and, finally, an all-out, tragic war.
Of course, for Germans the memory of their own racist imperialism still haunts their decisions. They’re hesitant to be seen as too aggressive toward Russia, as evidenced by a long-standing “special relationship” with Moscow—but by conflating “Soviet” with “Russian,” the Germans are playing right into Putin’s hands. It was Ukraine that was the first victim of Adolf Hitler’s war on the Soviet Union, just as it was the first victim of Soviet terror itself.
Therefore, it is important for Western nations to listen to Ukrainians—who do not see themselves as serfs and who are willing to die to ensure that their children are not stolen or taken into Russian bondage. Ukrainians need heavy arms right now, not later, not whenever.
As Sarah Rainsford, a longtime Eastern Europe correspondent, has pointed out, Putin’s remarks in June about sharing a legacy with Peter the Great did not appear to come from a place of fear. Putin didn’t look cornered but relaxed and smiling. Putin’s army o
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You're bowing out again I see, Second.
Good.
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Quote:6ix made an argument that I will quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're bowing out again I see, Second.
Good.
Quote:6ix, here is the math for the number higher than you made in a year: $67,772.71 = $270.01 * 251
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes...
6ix, if you think your argument makes sense, then how about my argument? I didn't have to buy a Boeing 777-300er (list price $375.5 million). Instead, I bought tickets for the whole family. I saved so much money by not owning a plane that I can retire. 6ix, just kidding. This argument does not make good sense, but it is close to the absurd argument 6ix is making.
Anyway, I don't "argue" with Trumptards because they are foolish people and don't know it. I used to argue with my East Texas cousins, all Trumptards, at least the ones that lived long enough to vote in 2016. The last of my cousins, Laurie, who twice voted for Trump (or 4 times if you count both the primary and general elections) died recently. She was 3 years younger than me. All the Trumptard cousins died younger than I am now, and their children are dying young, too, because Trumptards are silly and yet dangerous to the health of people around them. (Russians are dangerous to the health of people around them. Ukrainians know this for a fact.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:People who support Putin make similar bombastic statements as Signym makes. For one example from Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
. . . if these nations continue to threaten Russia's security, the borders may move once again.
I would not interpret this as anything more than a restatement that Russia intends to ensure its security by whatever means the west makes necessary.
Chechen parliament speaker Magomed Daudov says that first and foremost, Chechen battalions in Ukraine are fighting a jihad to defend Islam.
Daudov says that unless Putin stops them, they will keep going until they reach Berlin.
11:44 AM · Jul 5, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1544361566082109445
This kind of emotional sentiment will kill many people and destroy much real estate. (Why stop at Berlin? The Chechen should go onward to London! Boris Johnson sent weapons to Ukraine. He must be punished by destroying the House of Parliament in London! )
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An order by the international court of justice told Russia to withdraw from Ukraine. Is Russia withdrawing? No! Instead, what is Russia doing?
HANOI, July 6 (Reuters) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday called on all parties in the world to make efforts to protect international laws as "the world is evolving in a complicated manner."
Lavrov was speaking though a translator at a meeting with his Vietnamese counterpart Bui Thanh Son in Hanoi.
His comments come as Russia has been accused by Western countries of breaching international law through its invasion of Ukraine. European Union leaders have urged Moscow to abide by an order by the international court of justice telling Russia to withdraw from Ukraine.
"Vietnam is a key partner (of Russia) in ASEAN...and the two countries' relations are based on history and their common fight for justice," Lavrov said at the meeting, referring to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
Vietnam and Russia have close ties dating back to the Soviet era and Hanoi has not so far condemned Russia's war in Ukraine, which Moscow calls a "special operation".
Lavrov's visit to Hanoi comes as the two nations mark the 10th anniversary of their "comprehensive strategic partnership".
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/russias-lavrov-calls-effort
s-protect-international-laws-2022-07-06/
What International Law is Russia disobeying?
16 March 2022 -- By a vote of 13 to two, with Vice-President Kirill Gevorgian of Russia and Judge Xue Hanqin of China dissenting, the ICJ ruled that Russia “shall immediately suspend the military operations that it commenced on 24 February.”
The court’s ruling – the first such verdict handed down by the ‘world court’ since the Russian invasion began – is in response to a suit filed by Ukraine on 27 February, accusing Russia of manipulating the concept of genocide to justify its military aggression.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1114052
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It is a reminder to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania, Poland etc that they have been at war with Russia over the centuries, the border has moved back and forth between the rise and fall of various dynasties (Did you know there was a Polish-Lithuanin empire that invaded Russia? Well, now you do.) and if these nations continue to threaten Russia's security, the borders may move once again.
So killing innocent Ukrainians really is just so Putin can redraw a line - thanks for clearing that up. I mean, we knew that all along. His rolodex of previous reasons was pretty flimsy, typical thin Russian double speak, "I dunno, nazi something."
What a shitty place Russia must be, that they value lines over people. It does make sense, though. They way Putin uses up his soldiers and has them kill children and old women - zero respect for human life anywhere. And such a waste too. You'd think someone with that much power could do so much good for his own people. O-well, no imagination I guess.
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The Soviet Union never really solved Russian nationalism
https://aeon.co/essays/the-soviet-union-never-really-solved-russian-na
tionalism
On 19 November 1990, Boris Yeltsin gave a speech in Kiev to announce that, after more than 300 years of rule by the Russian tsars and the Soviet ‘totalitarian regime’ in Moscow, Ukraine was free at last. Russia, he said, did not want any special role in dictating Ukraine’s future, nor did it aim to be at the centre of any future empire. Five months earlier, in June 1990, inspired by independence movements in the Baltics and the Caucasus, Yeltsin had passed a declaration of Russian sovereignty that served as a model for those of several other Soviet republics, including Ukraine. While they stopped short of demanding full separation, such statements asserted that the USSR would have only as much power as its republics were willing to give.
Russian imperial ambitions can appear to be age-old and constant. Even relatively sophisticated media often present a Kremlin drive to dominate its neighbours that seems to have passed from the tsars to Stalin, and from Stalin to Putin. So it is worth remembering that, not long ago, Russia turned away from empire. In fact, in 1990-91, it was Russian secessionism – together with separatist movements in the republics – that brought down the USSR. To defeat the Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev’s attempt at preserving the union, Yeltsin fused the concerns of Russia’s liberal democrats and conservative nationalists into an awkward alliance. Like Donald Trump’s Make America Great Again or Boris Johnson’s Brexit, Yeltsin insisted that Russians, the Soviet Union’s dominant group, were oppressed. He called for separation from burdensome others to bring Russian renewal.
The roots of nationalist discontent lay in Russia’s peculiar status within the Soviet Union. After the Bolsheviks took control over much of the tsarist empire’s former territory, Lenin declared ‘war to the death on Great Russian chauvinism’ and proposed to uplift the ‘oppressed nations’ on its peripheries. To combat imperial inequality, Lenin called for unity, creating a federation of republics divided by nationality. The republics forfeited political sovereignty in exchange for territorial integrity, educational and cultural institutions in their own languages, and the elevation of the local ‘titular’ nationality into positions of power. Soviet policy, following Lenin, conceived of the republics as homelands for their respective nationalities (with autonomous regions and districts for smaller nationalities nested within them). The exception was the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, or RSFSR, which remained an administrative territory not associated with any ethnic or historic ‘Russia’.
Russia was the only Soviet republic that did not have its own Communist Party, capital, or Academy of Sciences. These omissions contributed to the uneasy overlap of ‘Russian’ and ‘Soviet’.
It was Joseph Stalin, a Georgian, who promoted Russians to ‘first among equals’ in the Soviet Union, confirmed by his postwar toast that credited ‘most of all, the Russian people’ with the Soviet defeat of Nazi Germany. Nikita Khrushchev continued the Soviet commitment to the formation of a multiethnic community that would eventually converge in a shared economic, cultural and linguistic system. In this Soviet melting pot, Russia was a kind of older brother, especially to the purportedly less-advanced peoples of Central Asia. Russian remained the Soviet language of upward mobility, Russian history and culture were the most celebrated, and Russians generally thought of the Soviet Union as ‘theirs’. Like white Americans who marked other groups as ‘ethnic’, Russians saw themselves as the norm in relation to ‘national minorities’.
By the late 1960s, the Soviet Union was a majority urbanised, educated society whose legitimacy had come to rest on its status as a stable welfare state. Freed from the terror, war and mass mobilisation of the previous decades, Soviet citizens spent their leisur
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It is a reminder to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania, Poland etc that they have been at war with Russia over the centuries, the border has moved back and forth between the rise and fall of various dynasties (Did you know there was a Polish-Lithuanin empire that invaded Russia? Well, now you do.) and if these nations continue to threaten Russia's security, the borders may move once again.
So killing innocent Ukrainians really is just so Putin can redraw a line - thanks for clearing that up. I mean, we knew that all along. His rolodex of previous reasons was pretty flimsy, typical thin Russian double speak, "I dunno, nazi something."
What a shitty place Russia must be, that they value lines over people. It does make sense, though. They way Putin uses up his soldiers and has them kill children and old women - zero respect for human life anywhere. And such a waste too. You'd think someone with that much power could do so much good for his own people. O-well, no imagination I guess.
No, that's what NAZI Germany did.
It's still about security. Russia has USA/NATO missile bases on its border. It has asked to be part of NATO a dozen times. Then the USA withdrew from our nuclear and missile treaties. Russia has asked, and then demanded, new security agreements from the USA. We blew them off.
Then NATO said (after a coup in Ukraine) that Kiev would be part of NATO, and Kiev massed 150,000+ troops on the line of contact, after ignoring the Minsk Agreement for 8 years.
What is Russia to think? WE would freak out if Russia placed missiles in ... say... Cuba, and based 200,000 Russian troops there.
Wouldn't we?
And BTW, Ukrainians are better at killing innocent civilians than Russians. They've been doing that since 2014 and haven't stopped.
I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine.
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I see SECOND is posting walls of gibberish again.
I'll have you know, SECOND, that rarely do I get past your first two sentences and sometimes not even the first word. ("Ukrainians" in a case in point, which demonstrates total misrepresentation of reality.)
This isn't like a term paper. You don't get graded on length, but on clarity of analysis, and (if applicable) accuracy of prediction. Since your posts are incomprehensibly muddled and unfiltered by any sort of logic, they're not worth reading.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix made an argument that I will quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're bowing out again I see, Second.
Good.Quote:6ix, here is the math for the number higher than you made in a year: $67,772.71 = $270.01 * 251
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes...
Yup. That's $67,722.71 AFTER income taxes and SS/Medicare tax.
So... just taking a guess here and not bothering with the math, more like in the ballpark of $85,000 to $95,000.
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6ix, if you think your argument makes sense, then how about my argument? I didn't have to buy a Boeing 777-300er (list price $375.5 million). Instead, I bought tickets for the whole family. I saved so much money by not owning a plane that I can retire. 6ix, just kidding. This argument does not make good sense, but it is close to the absurd argument 6ix is making.
No. Your argument makes no sense. I didn't add to the average American's monthly costs the price of a Boeing 777-300er. In fact, I didn't even add the average American's yearly expenses for vacation, which mine is also zero and would make my numbers even better.
The things I have on that list are what are considered normal monthly expenditures.
The only thing that arguably doesn't need to be on that list is Student Loan Debt payments, but then again I didn't add gasoline costs or food expenditures either.
My argument is sound.
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Anyway, I don't "argue" with Trumptards because they are foolish people and don't know it. I used to argue with my East Texas cousins, all Trumptards, at least the ones that lived long enough to vote in 2016. The last of my cousins, Laurie, who twice voted for Trump (or 4 times if you count both the primary and general elections) died recently. She was 3 years younger than me. All the Trumptard cousins died younger than I am now, and their children are dying young, too, because Trumptards are silly and yet dangerous to the health of people around them. (Russians are dangerous to the health of people around them. Ukrainians know this for a fact.)
Nobody believes anything you have to say about your personal life.
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Quote:Is this short enough for you to read?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see SECOND is posting walls of gibberish again.
I'll have you know, SECOND, that rarely do I get past your first two sentences and sometimes not even the first word. ("Ukrainians" in a case in point, which demonstrates total misrepresentation of reality.)
This isn't like a term paper. You don't get graded on length, but on clarity of analysis, and (if applicable) accuracy of prediction. Since your posts are incomprehensibly muddled and unfiltered by any sort of logic, they're not worth reading.
Is Russian state TV souring on Trump? 'We’ll have to think whether to reinstall him again'
Tuesday July 05, 2022 · 6:44 PM CDT
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/7/5/2108641/-Russian-state-TV-so
uring-on-Trump-We-ll-have-to-think-whether-to-reinstall-him-again
Now, it’s not clear when Trump threatened to destroy the Russian Federation or Putin’s hegemony. Newsweek looked into this and was unable to uncover any such threats, either. But that’s not the point. If Russia no longer wants to ratfuck the election in Trump’s favor, it could mean they see the writing on the wall. Not to shock your delicate sensibilities too much, but Russian state TV tends to make shit up to serve its own very narrow interests. (For the record, Davis herself hasn’t heard Trump say anything like what Skabeeva attributed to him.)
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, that's what NAZI Germany did.
No, that's what Russia is currently doing. Deflect and deny all you want, Russian troops are killing Ukrainian citizens to carve out some of Ukraine for itself. I mean, how else can you describe it? Maybe you think it's not happening?
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's still about security. Russia has USA/NATO missile bases on its border.
Funny - Russia used to have Ukrainian Nukes on it's border but Ukraine removed them. Big mistake. Russia doesn't seem to be the grateful type.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It has asked to be part of NATO a dozen times. Then the USA withdrew from our nuclear and missile treaties. Russia has asked, and then demanded, new security agreements from the USA. We blew them off.
I keep trying to enlighten you on just how untrustworthy Russia is and has always been. I never can seem to get through. Huh, wonder why... Additionally, you seem to have a block when it comes to how much Russia is hated around the world. Especially Putin. Imagine, they are so hated and untrustworthy peace loving Sweden and Finland are both jumping at the chance to join NATO in direct opposition to Russia. Get real, sister, this is a major backfire f-up.
Quote:Hell yeah. It's Russia. Thee most untrustworthy country next to NK.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WE would freak out if Russia placed missiles in ... say... Cuba, and based 200,000 Russian troops there.
Wouldn't we?
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And BTW, Ukrainians are better at killing innocent civilians than Russians. They've been doing that since 2014 and haven't stopped.
Explain how you know. Cites!
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine.
Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered? What did they do to you?
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Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said attempts to use courts or tribunals to investigate Russia’s actions would be futile and catastrophic.
Mr Medvedev, now deputy chair of the Russian security council, said on Telegram: “The idea of punishing a country that has one of the largest nuclear potentials is absurd. And potentially poses a threat to the existence of humanity.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-nuc
lear-weapons-putin-zelensky-b2116683.html
With a little checking, I found what made Medvedev threaten to nuke the world: Russia must not be allowed to use the G20 meeting this week as a platform given its war in Ukraine, German foreign minister Annalena Baerbock said. “It is in the interest of us all to ensure that international law is respected and adhered to. That is the common denominator,” said Ms Baerbock in a statement ahead of her trip to Indonesia – where the G20 meeting will be held. “And it is also the reason why we will not simply stand aside and allow Russia to use the meeting as a platform.”
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Quote:Thanks for posting a raft of weasely evasions.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, that's what NAZI Germany did.
No, that's what Russia is currently doing. Deflect and deny all you want, Russian troops are killing Ukrainian citizens to carve out some of Ukraine for itself. I mean, how else can you describe it? Maybe you think it's not happening?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's still about security. Russia has USA/NATO missile bases on its border.
Funny - Russia used to have Ukrainian Nukes on it's border but Ukraine removed them. Big mistake. Russia doesn't seem to be the grateful type.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It has asked to be part of NATO a dozen times. Then the USA withdrew from our nuclear and missile treaties. Russia has asked, and then demanded, new security agreements from the USA. We blew them off.
I keep trying to enlighten you on just how untrustworthy Russia is and has always been. I never can seem to get through. Huh, wonder why... Additionally, you seem to have a block when it comes to how much Russia is hated around the world. Especially Putin. Imagine, they are so hated and untrustworthy peace loving Sweden and Finland are both jumping at the chance to join NATO in direct opposition to Russia. Get real, sister, this is a major backfire f-up.Quote:Hell yeah. It's Russia. Thee most untrustworthy country next to NK.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WE would freak out if Russia placed missiles in ... say... Cuba, and based 200,000 Russian troops there.
Wouldn't we?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And BTW, Ukrainians are better at killing innocent civilians than Russians. They've been doing that since 2014 and haven't stopped.
Explain how you know. Cites!Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine.
Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered? What did they do to you?
Question:
Have you stopped beating your boyfriend yet?
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Quote:Remember Rush Limbaugh? He was a Trumptard before Trump called Obama a monkey. My cousins had all Limbaugh's books. The cousins would loan the books to each other, if a cousin couldn't afford to buy. My cousins also had Limbaugh's medical history: drugs, tobacco induced lung cancer, loss of hearing. It is kind of amazing that Limbaugh lived to be 70, despite how stupidly he lived. None of my Limbaugh-loving, Trump-voting cousins lived that long, probably because they didn't have Limbaugh's money to keep themselves alive and because Medicare starts at 65. Most of my cousins were dead before their 65th birthday. Only one cousin lived long enough to see Trump give the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Limbaugh. It was a great day for dittoheads.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody believes anything you have to say about your personal life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#Prescription_drug_addictio
n
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Remember Rush Limbaugh? He was a Trumptard before Trump called Obama a monkey. My cousins had all Limbaugh's books. The cousins would loan the books to each other, if a cousin couldn't afford to buy. My cousins also had Limbaugh's medical history: drugs, tobacco induced lung cancer, loss of hearing. It is kind of amazing that Limbaugh lived to be 70, despite how stupidly he lived. None of my Limbaugh-loving, Trump-voting cousins lived that long, probably because they didn't have Limbaugh's money to keep themselves alive.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody believes anything you have to say about your personal life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#Prescription_drug_addictio
n
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Annnnnd.... in response to nobody believing anything SECOND posts about his persoanl life, SECOND ... posts about his personal life!
Does anyone besides me see the humor in that?
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Quote:The humorous part is that Trumptards drop dead years earlier and make half as much money as Democrats. Compare Russians to Democrats and the differences in lifespan and income are even greater. The Trumptards blame their unfortunate lives on Democrats, rather than themselves, which is kind of expected from somebody whose signature is "If we did not MAKE someone poor." Signym, poor Trumptards make themselves what they are as do Russians make themselves what they are. But Trumptards blame Democrats and Russians blame NATO/EU/UK/USA. For some cultural or ethnic reasons, angry poor white trash, be they Trumptards or Russians, cannot place the blame where it belongs, on themselves. Instead, Trumptards and Russians find enemies everywhere. It's not at all surprising that they have many enemies, considering how Trumptards and Russians act in their daily lives toward people who aren't the same as them.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Does anyone besides me see the humor in that?
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Also not surprising that Russia has an economy smaller than South Korea, but bigger than North Korea. Russia has much in common with North Korea, especially the threats of nuking the world and attacking its neighbors. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gnp-by-country
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Thanks for posting a raft of weasely evasions.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, that's what NAZI Germany did.
No, that's what Russia is currently doing. Deflect and deny all you want, Russian troops are killing Ukrainian citizens to carve out some of Ukraine for itself. I mean, how else can you describe it? Maybe you think it's not happening?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's still about security. Russia has USA/NATO missile bases on its border.
Funny - Russia used to have Ukrainian Nukes on it's border but Ukraine removed them. Big mistake. Russia doesn't seem to be the grateful type.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It has asked to be part of NATO a dozen times. Then the USA withdrew from our nuclear and missile treaties. Russia has asked, and then demanded, new security agreements from the USA. We blew them off.
I keep trying to enlighten you on just how untrustworthy Russia is and has always been. I never can seem to get through. Huh, wonder why... Additionally, you seem to have a block when it comes to how much Russia is hated around the world. Especially Putin. Imagine, they are so hated and untrustworthy peace loving Sweden and Finland are both jumping at the chance to join NATO in direct opposition to Russia. Get real, sister, this is a major backfire f-up.Quote:Hell yeah. It's Russia. Thee most untrustworthy country next to NK.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WE would freak out if Russia placed missiles in ... say... Cuba, and based 200,000 Russian troops there.
Wouldn't we?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And BTW, Ukrainians are better at killing innocent civilians than Russians. They've been doing that since 2014 and haven't stopped.
Explain how you know. Cites!Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine.
Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered? What did they do to you?
Question:
Have you stopped beating your boyfriend yet?
Have you stopped beating your daughter yet? 2 can play that stupid game, hon. (Do you even have a daughter? I'm about 50-50 on that).
I love how consistent you are in pointing out what you're doing by accusing others of it first, "weasely evasions." Why do you continue to post here if you run from simple questions?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Remember Rush Limbaugh? He was a Trumptard before Trump called Obama a monkey. My cousins had all Limbaugh's books. The cousins would loan the books to each other, if a cousin couldn't afford to buy. My cousins also had Limbaugh's medical history: drugs, tobacco induced lung cancer, loss of hearing. It is kind of amazing that Limbaugh lived to be 70, despite how stupidly he lived. None of my Limbaugh-loving, Trump-voting cousins lived that long, probably because they didn't have Limbaugh's money to keep themselves alive.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody believes anything you have to say about your personal life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#Prescription_drug_addictio
n
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Annnnnd.... in response to nobody believing anything SECOND posts about his persoanl life, SECOND ... posts about his personal life!
Does anyone besides me see the humor in that?
Nothing Second says or does is humorous. At least not intentionally.
Second is a sad, sad man devoid of all humor and joy in life.
Meanwhile, I see he's dropped our conversation again.
I'm sure it will be one week before he starts talking about how poor he thinks I am again.
Anyhow... Going to clean up my paid-in-full house before my buddy gets here. We're picking up the $360 rolling shed door that I paid cash for.
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Quote:Yes,and you started it.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Thanks for posting a raft of weasely evasions.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, that's what NAZI Germany did.
No, that's what Russia is currently doing. Deflect and deny all you want, Russian troops are killing Ukrainian citizens to carve out some of Ukraine for itself. I mean, how else can you describe it? Maybe you think it's not happening?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's still about security. Russia has USA/NATO missile bases on its border.
Funny - Russia used to have Ukrainian Nukes on it's border but Ukraine removed them. Big mistake. Russia doesn't seem to be the grateful type.Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It has asked to be part of NATO a dozen times. Then the USA withdrew from our nuclear and missile treaties. Russia has asked, and then demanded, new security agreements from the USA. We blew them off.
I keep trying to enlighten you on just how untrustworthy Russia is and has always been. I never can seem to get through. Huh, wonder why... Additionally, you seem to have a block when it comes to how much Russia is hated around the world. Especially Putin. Imagine, they are so hated and untrustworthy peace loving Sweden and Finland are both jumping at the chance to join NATO in direct opposition to Russia. Get real, sister, this is a major backfire f-up.Quote:Hell yeah. It's Russia. Thee most untrustworthy country next to NK.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WE would freak out if Russia placed missiles in ... say... Cuba, and based 200,000 Russian troops there.
Wouldn't we?Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And BTW, Ukrainians are better at killing innocent civilians than Russians. They've been doing that since 2014 and haven't stopped.
Explain how you know. Cites!Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine.
Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered? What did they do to you?
Question:
Have you stopped beating your boyfriend yet?
Have you stopped beating your daughter yet? 2 can play that stupid game
Now you're just looking pathetic.
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SIGNYM: I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine.
CC: Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered? What did they do to you?
SIGNYM: Thanks for posting a raft of weasely evasions. Question: Have you stopped beating your boyfriend yet?
CC: Have you stopped beating your daughter yet? 2 can play that stupid game.
SIGNYM: Yes, and you started it. Now you're just looking pathetic.
CC: No, you started it - read the thread above. 
And you continue to use it as a deflection from answering simple questions about Russians murdering Ukrainians. It's pathetic how you avoid questions.
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You can't possibly be that stupid, CAPON.
Would anyone genuinely believe that
Quote:is an honest question?
CAPON: Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered?
See?
You started it.
If you're ever interested in having an honest discussion, let me know.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
Well... not MISSING them.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes... And I can imagine most Americans can say the same thing, which is why we need two adults working in most households and they still rack up credit card debt to "pay" for everything.
I'm going to go wrap up the electric in my garage and clean it all up. I've got to have a spot to put the brand new shiny shed door that I bought with cash to sit until my friend's dad comes over to pay off some of the favors he owes me and we get it installed.
Have fun today at work to pay off all that shit you bought that you don't need for anything other than to impress your rich Democrat "friends", honey.
"Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave."
Hilarious. No, you're not going to make it. Go ahead, take that money that you "made" and buy something with it. Get some gas and tell the attendant the same story. "Look here buddy, I made $270 dollars today by not being a wage slave, so have some for the gas I just put in my car."
Here, let me make you even richer: think of all the money you "made" by not having a wife and kids. Not having to pay for college, no weddings, no clothes or food. No divorce proceedings (just in case), no vacations, no dining out, no bigger house, no second car, on and on. You add it all up and you might be the richest person in your county.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
You can't possibly be that stupid, CAPON.
Would anyone genuinely believe thatQuote:is an honest question?
CAPON: Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered?
See?
You started it.
I must have misinterpreted you when you said, "SIGNYM: I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine." The meaning seems pretty obvious given the actual war and murder of Ukrainians by Russians going on.
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Quote:6ix, first thing, nobody cares about your $360 rolling shed door. Nobody. Why tell us about a big, fat nothing? Second thing, you posted dozens of times that nobody cares about Ukraine and Russia. How about you reading your own words and showing you understand the words by not posting about what you don't care about? Third thing, you were an asshole when you were drunk, but as many famous novelists have proven by writing while drunk, alcohol enhanced articulateness. 6ix, go back to posting while drunk. That was the best version of you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing Second says or does is humorous. At least not intentionally.
Second is a sad, sad man devoid of all humor and joy in life.
Meanwhile, I see he's dropped our conversation again.
I'm sure it will be one week before he starts talking about how poor he thinks I am again.
Anyhow... Going to clean up my paid-in-full house before my buddy gets here. We're picking up the $360 rolling shed door that I paid cash for.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, first thing, nobody cares about your $360 rolling shed door. Nobody. Why tell us about a big, fat nothing? Second thing, you posted dozens of times that nobody cares about Ukraine and Russia. How about you reading your own words and showing you understand the words by not posting about what you don't care about? Third thing, you were an asshole when you were drunk, but as many famous novelists have proven by writing while drunk, alcohol enhanced articulateness. 6ix, go back to posting while drunk. That was the best version of you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nothing Second says or does is humorous. At least not intentionally.
Second is a sad, sad man devoid of all humor and joy in life.
Meanwhile, I see he's dropped our conversation again.
I'm sure it will be one week before he starts talking about how poor he thinks I am again.
Anyhow... Going to clean up my paid-in-full house before my buddy gets here. We're picking up the $360 rolling shed door that I paid cash for.
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We picked up my $360 paid for rolling door for my paid for shed at my paid for house. My friend, who owes me quite a few favors used his truck to pick it up for me, so it didn't even cost me any gas. It will be installed by my friend's dad who owes me even more favors, so that won't cost me any money either.
I'm fucking awesome. I'm thriving in your Leader's bullshit economy.
Fuck Russia. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Gas prices. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck you.
Your party is dead. It is all your fault too.
Meanwhile, keep on talking about how I'm a poor dummy and I'll keep telling you about how awesome I am, no matter what thread it's under. If you want me to stop doing this, you know what you have to control yourself from doing.
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Quote:Yeah, right.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
You can't possibly be that stupid, CAPON.
Would anyone genuinely believe thatQuote:is an honest question?
CAPON: Big Question: Why are you so mad at Ukrainians that you want to see innocent civilians murdered?
See?
You started it.
I must have misinterpreted you when you said, "SIGNYM: I'm with SIX: Fuck Ukraine." The meaning seems pretty obvious given the actual war and murder of Ukrainians by Russians going on.
I'm sure the dozens (if not hundreds) of times you've tried to paint me as something I'm not were just accidents.
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But what about Hitler? Compared to Hitler, Putin is not so bad, according to Putin ally.
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said he thought 'forgetful Europe' should face a 'moral cleansing'
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a major ally of Vladimir Putin, has said that Europe should undergo a "moral cleansing," according to state news agency Belta.
During a government meeting at the weekend, Lukashenko talked about fighting Nazis in the Second World War and said: "The time has come for the forgetful Europe to give itself a moral cleansing."
"They — all who chose to forget — will have to look again at the grueling evidence of the bloody crimes of their own fathers and grandfathers," he said, according to Belta.
"I must admit that we were delicately silent. In our Slavic way, we believed that children were not responsible for their parents. We still think so."
He did not elaborate on what such a cleansing would entail.
As one of Russian President Putin's staunchest allies, Lukashenko has supported his military operation in Ukraine since it began on February 24.
Lukashenko's cryptic comments about Nazis echo Putin's previous claim that Russian forces invaded Ukraine to "denazify" the country and save its Russian-speaking population from "genocide."
There is no evidence of a genocide being carried out in Ukraine and experts say Putin only says this as part of a broader disinformation campaign.
Lukashenko's comments come several days after he accused Ukraine of firing missiles at military facilities on his country's territory. He did not provide any evidence for this claim.
"We are being provoked," Lukashenko said, Al Jazeera reported.
Ukrainian officials have yet to comment on reports of the blasts in Belarus and the Ukrainian military did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.
https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-lukashenko-europe-moral-cleans
ing-putin-ukraine-russia-invasion-2022-7
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Quote:Dull and repetitive. In a time long passed, you were creative when you were hammered. Change your name back to 6ixStringJoker. Bring back your good old days. Have a beer. Or 6ix pack.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Russia. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Gas prices. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck you.
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"Dull and repetitive" applies to SECOND.
Also dishonest and warped.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Dull and repetitive. In a time long passed, you were creative when you were hammered. Change your name back to 6ixStringJoker.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Russia. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Gas prices. Fuck Joe Biden*. Fuck you.
I don't waste my creativity on you, dumbshit.
Here's what I've been doing. What purpose could you have possibly served yourself or anybody else while I was busy creating things?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&mid=11585
42#1158542
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Bring back your good old days. Have a beer. Or 6ix pack.
No thanks. I don't have any desire to ever drink again.
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SECOND is a nasty twisted fuck who tries to harm those he disagrees with.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND is a nasty twisted fuck who tries to harm those he disagrees with.
If his opinions meant anything to anybody other than himself, and if he were half as good with words as he believed himself to be, he might be good at it too.
Remember when his sockpuppet was telling people step by step how to put the gun in their mouths and fire?
Archive.today and Haken's TESTING thread remembers.
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On Wednesday, Irish Prime Minister Micheál Martin traveled to Kyiv, where he met Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Martin said Ireland stands ready to support Ukraine’s postwar reconstruction — and to help hold Russia accountable.
Prime Minister Micheál Martin: “The use of terror against and the deliberate targeting of civilian populations are war crimes. Those responsible, those carrying out these actions and those directing them, will be held fully accountable, and there will be no hiding places.”
In response, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev warned the U.S. and its allies could face nuclear retaliation if they pursue an international tribunal to investigate Russian war crimes committed in Ukraine. Medvedev wrote on social media, “The idea of punishing a country that has one of the largest nuclear potentials is absurd. And potentially poses a threat to the existence of humanity.”
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/7/headlines/irish_prime_minister_m
icheal_martin_condemns_russian_war_crimes
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Vladimir Putin’s tactic of targeting civilian populations has finally backfired. Instead of demoralizing war-weary Ukrainians it has galvanized its European neighbors and re-invigorated NATO.
Russia has form here, with Putin targeting civilian populations as a well-worn tactic to demoralize communities and achieve his strategic goals. The targeting, terrorizing, and killing of civilians was used to horrific effect in Syria from 2015. In partnership with Syrian government forces, Russian forces besieged and attacked civilian areas, including hospitals and schools. This included the use of ‘barrel’ bombs and chemical weapons, costing the lives of thousands of innocent people and causing untold misery.
But Putin’s tactics have finally backfired.
NATO, Russia’s biggest adversary, has been horrified by the attacks on civilians this close to its borders. The alliance announced plans to increase the number of forces at high readiness to over 300,000, a dramatic increase from the existing 40,000. Jens Stoltenberg, the secretary general of NATO, said that the increase is a direct response to Russian actions in Ukraine. Stoltenberg also announced that the alliance would alter its official stance on Russia, from a ‘strategic partner’ to posing ‘a direct threat to our security, to our values, to the rules-based international order.’
The re-invigoration of NATO, through enlargement and increased military capabilities, is the opposite of what Putin intended when his forces invaded Ukraine.
Countries in its perceived sphere of influence have used Russian aggression as the final straw to seek closer ties with the West, finally leaving Russia’s orbit.
This has revealed Russia for what it really is: a diminished power with nothing to offer except aggressive nationalism and terror.
https://www.eurasiareview.com/07072022-russian-war-crimes-in-ukraine-a
re-backfiring-oped/
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A Perfect Storm of Whataboutism from Moscow. (Moscow wants Alaska returned, too!)
Jul 6, 2022 3:02 PM EDT
MOSCOW (AP) — A top Kremlin official warned the U.S. Wednesday that it could face the “wrath of God” if it pursues efforts to help establish an international tribunal to investigate Russia’s action in Ukraine, while the Russian lower house speaker urged Washington to remember that Alaska used to belong to Russia.
Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy secretary of Russia’s Security Council chaired by President Vladimir Putin, denounced the U.S. for what he described as its efforts to “spread chaos and destruction across the world for the sake of ‘true democracy.'”
“The entire U.S. history since the times of subjugation of the native Indian population represents a series of bloody wars,” Medvedev charged in a long diatribe on his Telegram channel, pointing out the U.S. nuclear bombing of Japan during World War II and the war in Vietnam. “Was anyone held responsible for those crimes? What tribunal condemned the sea of blood spilled by the U.S. there?”
Responding to the U.S.-backed calls for an international tribunal to prosecute the perceived war crimes by Russia in Ukraine, Medvedev rejected it as an attempt by the U.S. “to judge others while staying immune from any trial.”
“It won’t work with Russia, they know it well,” Medvedev concluded. “That’s why the rotten dogs of war are barking in such a disgusting way.”
“The U.S. and its useless stooges should remember the words of the Bible: Do not judge and you will not be judged … so that the great day of His wrath doesn’t come to their home one day,” Medvedev said, referring to the Apocalypse.
He noted that the “idea to punish a country with the largest nuclear potential is absurd and potentially creates the threat to mankind’s existence.”
The warning follows a series of tough statements from Putin and his officials that pointed at the Russian nuclear arsenals to warn the West against interfering with Moscow’s action in Ukraine.
Medvedev, who served as Russia’s president in 2008-2012 when Putin shifted into the prime minister’s post due to term limits, was widely seen by the West as more liberal compared with his mentor. In recent months, however, he has made remarks that have sounded much tougher than those issued by the most hawkish Kremlin officials.
In another blustery warning to the U.S., Vyacheslav Volodin. a longtime Putin aide who serves as the speaker of the lower house of parliament, warned Wednesday that Washington should remember that Alaska was part of Russia when it freezes Russian assets. Russia colonized Alaska and established several settlements there until the U.S. purchased it from Russia in 1867 for $7.2 million.
“When they attempt to appropriate our assets abroad, they should be aware that we also have something to claim back,” Volodin said during a meeting with lawmakers.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russian-officials-warn-the-u-s-agai
nst-international-war-crimes-court
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Originally posted by second:
Medvedev: “That’s why the rotten dogs of war are barking in such a disgusting way.”
What a great line.
It wouldn't be Russia if they weren't making threats. They have one speed when it comes to problem solving.
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Quote:Russians can't stop bragging about The Great Patriotic War. According to Russians, without help from anyone, not the US, not the UK, Russia beat back Hitler. The Russian braggarts don't mention that it took 6 years and killed 28 million Russians doing it. The Russians don't brag about the millions of German civilians killed by Russians after peace was declared with Germany, either. That aftermath was an indictment against the character of Russians.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
It wouldn't be Russia if they weren't making threats. They have one speed when it comes to problem solving.
Crimea was invaded in 2014, so the Russians have been at this for 8 years, versus 6 years with Germany, but the US and UK weren't also fighting the Ukrainian Nazis, so it is gonna take a little longer for Russia to beat the Nazis this time.
This is a Russian's idea of a fair fight:
Population Russia 142,320,790 (July 2021 est.) Ukraine 43,745,640 (July 2021 est.)
Too bad the Ukrainians didn't keep their nukes. That would have caused the Russians to pause a bit to consider whether the Ukrainians had engineered a way to use the nukes against Russia. But Russia promised to protect Ukraine if it gave up its nukes. When it came time to keep their promises, the Russians said that they had made the promises to a different group of Ukrainians, therefore, no promise for this new group, who are all Nazis.
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasio
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Thursday that Ukraine is unwilling to cede land to Russia in diplomatic negotiations to end the war.
"Ukrainians are not ready to give away their land, to accept that these territories belong to Russia. This is our land. We always talk about that, and we are intending to prove it."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/politics/volodymyr-zelensky-interview-c
nntv/index.html
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Russian Media Distort Western Reporting on Ukraine
Claim: “Telegraph: The West will cut aid to Ukraine because of the futility of supporting Kyiv.”
Fact check by Polygraph.info: False
https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-russian-media-distort-western-
reporting-on-ukraine/31933612.html
Also Russian claims it didn't shoot down Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over Ukraine, killing all 298 aboard, two-thirds of whom were Dutch.
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/10/889953353/nearly-6-years-after-mh17-was
-shot-down-dutch-prosecutors-say-they-will-sue-russ
Dutch trial over downing of MH17 comes to an end
Nearly eight years after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down over eastern Ukraine, the trial of four men charged with the murder of all 298 people onboard has wrapped up.
https://www.courthousenews.com/dutch-trial-over-downing-of-mh17-comes-
to-an-end/
Putin threatens to use Satan II nuclear missile - which can reach UK in three minutes
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Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.
The actual Telegraph headline and sub reads
Quote:
“Ukraine needs a victory before autumn to silence Western doubters.” Its sub-headline read: “Volodymyr Zelenskyy is running out of time to shore up support, with some believing his country’s battle against Russia is futile.”
While G7 nations may have vowed to continue military aid, they fail to say AT WHAT LEVEL.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.
How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?
cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…
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Quote:Since the court has not issued a verdict, you could be correct, Signym. The case has moved with typical speed: 8 years so far. There is no problem waiting a few more months for a final verdict.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.
At the end of Friday’s hearing, Presiding Judge Hendrik Steenhuis said the court expected to issue a verdict by the end of the year. Two possible dates are scheduled, one in November and one in December, and he expects to announce the final date at a hearing in September.
The Netherlands has also, together with Australia, launched a case at the United Nations’ aviation body, the International Civil Aviation Organization, arguing the Russian Federation violated the 1944 Chicago Convention in helping to shoot down the passenger jet. I suppose that will also take many-many-many years to come to a decision. In the meanwhile, Russia is innocent until proven guilty.
https://www.courthousenews.com/dutch-trial-over-downing-of-mh17-comes-
to-an-end/
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Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday issued a warning to the West and Ukraine, saying the war might drag on until the “last Ukrainian is left standing.”
“Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. Well, what can I say? Let them try,” Putin said during a meeting with the heads of the State Duma party factions that aired on state media television Russia-24.
"We have continuously heard that the West is ready to fight with us until the last Ukrainian is left standing. This is a tragedy for the Ukrainian people. However, it seems like everything is going towards this," he said.
Putin has also blamed the West for “encouraging and justifying genocide against people in Donbas.”
"We are not refusing peace negotiations. But those who do refuse should know that the further [the conflict continues], the more difficult it will be for them to negotiate with us," Putin said.
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-07
-22/h_3ee09632cc228842cba584de25ec48dc
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.
How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?
cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…
My exasperation isn't fake, UNLIKE YOUR CONSTANT "MISUNDERSTANDINGS"
Any happy camper who follows reality knows the prosecution isn't accusing Russians of firing anything.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.
How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?
cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…
My exasperation isn't fake, UNLIKE YOUR CONSTANT "MISUNDERSTANDINGS"
Any happy camper who follows reality knows the prosecution isn't accusing Russians of firing anything.
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch prosecutors on Tuesday
said three Russians and a Ukrainian were
'fully responsible' for shooting down Malaysia Airlines
flight MH17 over Eastern Ukraine in 2014
and should be found guilty of murder.
The men - all of whom remain at large -
could face sentences of up to life imprisonment
if found guilty of helping to supply the missile system
used by Russian-backed rebels to fire a rocket at the passenger jet as
it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-12-21/suspects-in-dutc
h-trial-fully-responsible-for-mh17-downing-prosecution-says#:~:text=AMSTERDAM%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20Dutch%20prosecutors,be%20found%20guilty%20of%20murder.
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Jeezus Christ, THUGR, learn to read, willya?
Does it say that Russians were accused of firing the missile?
No.
I helpfully highlighted the accusation so you could see that they are accused of "helping to supply" the missile system, used by SOMEONE ELSE.
Unlike CAPON, who "misunderstands" things on purpose, you just plain don't undertand.
No wonder nobody wants you on their team.
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SIGNYM:
Russia DIDN'T shoot down MH17. It may have been Donbas separatists who shot it down by accident, but Russians did not fire the missile and Russian officials didn't give the order to shoot.
CAPON: How do know? You can’t possibly know anything you just said unless you were there. Were you there?
SIGNYM: cue Ziggy fake exasperation in 3… 2… 1…
My exasperation isn't fake, UNLIKE YOUR CONSTANT "MISUNDERSTANDINGS"
Any happy camper who follows reality knows the prosecution isn't accusing Russians of firing anything.
THUGR:Quote:
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch prosecutors on Tuesday said three Russians and a Ukrainian were 'fully responsible' for shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and should be found guilty of murder.
The men - all of whom remain at large - could face sentences of up to life imprisonment
if found guilty of helping to supply the missile system used by Russian-backed rebels to fire a rocket at the passenger jet as it flew from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-12-21/suspects-in-dutc
h-trial-fully-responsible-for-mh17-downing-prosecution-says#:~:text=AMSTERDAM%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20Dutch%20prosecutors,be%20found%20guilty%20of%20murder.
Seriously, if "helping to supply" weapons used in war crimes was a crime, everyone from Canadians to Americans to Swedes would be on trial.
Next time, please double check your post to make sure you're not embarassing yourself.
Again.
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7/8/22 at 9:19 AM EDT, Ukraine's armed forces on Friday claimed to have destroyed 35 Russian tanks in a single day. In the last week, claimed tank losses have ranged from two a day to a high of six, according to data from Ukraine.
The last time Russia released details of troop losses was on March 25. Russia hasn't disclosed its military equipment losses throughout the war. Russian officials have so far publicly denied that Moscow is having difficulties, but on June 30, Russia signaled that it could be suffering military losses after Putin's government created a draft federal law that would allow the country to quickly repair weapons and military equipment.
The Kremlin submitted a bill to the State Duma on "special economic measures" for "counterterrorist and other operations" outside of Russia, and an explanatory note attached to the bill said that there is, particularly amid the ongoing conflict, "a short-term increased need for the repair of weapons and military equipment."
The text of the draft law notes the need for Russia to repair its weapons and military equipment amid "a special military operation in the territories of the Donetsk People's Republic, the Luhansk People's Republic and Ukraine."
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-destroys-35-russian-tanks-single-day-
kyiv-forces-1722950
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Quote:Who is on trial?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Jeezus Christ, THUGR, learn to read, willya?
Does it say that Russians were accused of firing the missile?
No.
I helpfully highlighted the accusation so you could see that they are accused of "helping to supply" the missile system, used by SOMEONE ELSE.
Unlike CAPON, who "misunderstands" things on purpose, you just plain don't undertand.
No wonder nobody wants you on their team.
Three Russians nationals, Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and one Ukrainian citizen, Leonid Kharchenko, are being tried in absentia for the crime of downing MH17 with a BUK missile. All four men are alleged to be lead figures in the Russian-backed forces occupying parts of Eastern Ukraine.
https://www.dw.com/en/mh17-trial-judges-get-first-look-at-cockpit-and-
fuselage/a-57678833
Russia has submitted many different stories about the MH17 crash. As older stories are shot down, new stories are launched. When the new stories are shot down, Russia relaunches the old stories. Colloquially the process is known as the Fire Hose of Falsehoods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17#Russian_medi
a_coverage
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If THUGR doesn't comprehend and CAPON spins, SECOND flat-out pumps second-hand propaganda.
The trial looks highly political. Supposedly, authorities have recordings of intercepted communications of the group that fired the missile. Supposedly, there are geolocated photos. Supposedly, the identities of those who actually fired the missile are known.
So, who is on trial, and why?
Well, RUSSIANS, of course!
NOT for firing the missile, or for giving orders to fire the missile, not even for supplying the missile (according to the article quote) but for but for "helping" to supply the missile.
Seems like second-hand responsibility.
So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?
I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!- a theater piece for propaganda purposes. The kind of "show trial" that the USSR was infamous for.
That's what the west has been reduced to.
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This is what was reported at the time:
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Here’s a segment of a conversation between an alleged pro-Russian rebel named Major and another identified as Grek, per Ukrainian authorities:
Major: The plane broke into pieces in the air … we have found the first 200 (dead). It’s a civilian.”
Grek: “How are things going there?”
M: “Well, we are 100% sure that it was a civilian plane.”
G: “Are there a lot of people?”
M: “F–k! The debris was falling straight into the yards.”
M: “Here are remnants of internal brackets, chairs, bodies.”
G: “Are there any weapons?”
M: “Nothing at all. Civilian belongings, medical scraps, towels, toilet paper.”
...
In a final segment of the alleged intercepted phone calls, an unidentified militant allegedly speaks with a Russian Cossack, Mykola Kozitsyn.
Militant: “On TV, they say like it is a Ukrainian An-26, a transport plane. But the writing says ‘Malaysia Airlines.’ What was it doing over the territory of Ukraine?”
Kozitsyn: “Well then it was bringing spies. Why the hell were they flying? This is war going on.”
...
One recording, purportedly between the military chief of the separatist Lugansk National Republic and a Russian military intelligence officer, discusses the missile system, called a Buk.
The alleged rebel is heard telling the supposed Russian officer that they hold the Buk.
“Yes, I know that,” the Russian officer responds.
In a separate audio, another alleged Russian military intelligence officer and another rebel military chief discuss where to unload and hide the Buk.
https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-mh17-intercepted-a
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If THUGR doesn't comprehend and CAPON spins, SECOND flat-out pumps second-hand propaganda.
The trial looks highly political. Supposedly, authorities have recordings of intercepted communications of the group that fired the missile. Supposedly, there are geolocated photos. Supposedly, the identities of those who actually fired the missile are known.
Define "political" in this case?
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, who is on tial, and why?
Well, RUSSIANS, of course!
NOT for firing the missile, or for giving orders to fire the missile, not even for supplying the missile (according to the article quote) but for but for "helping" to supply the missile.
Seems like second-hand responsibility.
So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?
I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!- a theater piece for propaganda purposes. The kind of "show trial" that the USSR was infamous for.
That's what the west has been reduced to.
The usual dishonesty and weak deflection from Ziggy.
"I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!" That actually is totally true, but keep denying. Use up all the ink you need, it's still going to be true. It's almost Trumpian in your constant complaining about something in the past, like why keep bringing it up? It's not a positive for Russia or Trump.
This one is the funniest and lamest broken parallel argument:
"So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?"
Sooooo Russia was and still is in league with the Ukrainian separatists to kill Ukrainians, da? Is the US in league with the Saudis to kill Yemenis? No da.
The truth is no one - including you - know who pushed the button unless someone who was actually there gives them up. I would imagine that would be a death sentence for that person and they know it, so mum's the word. So, lacking that the court used a charge they could prove. If you pay as much attention to news as you say you do, you'd know that is not uncommon in legal cases. Make them pay for what you can charge them with.
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This thread is full of childish stories told by mentally-deprived propagandists.
Please let it die the quiet death it deserves.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This thread is full of childish stories told by mentally-deprived propagandists.
Please let it die the quiet death it deserves.
Well, since you put it that way...
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Quote:Oh, puhleez. Stop looking pathetic.
SIGNYM:
If THUGR doesn't comprehend and CAPON spins, SECOND flat-out pumps second-hand propaganda.
The trial looks highly political. Supposedly, authorities have recordings of intercepted communications of the group that fired the missile. Supposedly, there are geolocated photos. Supposedly, the identities of those who actually fired the missile are known.
CAPON: Define "political" in this case?
Quote:FIFY.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, who is on trial, and why?
Well, RUSSIANS, of course!
NOT for firing the missile, or for giving orders to fire the missile, not even for supplying the missile (according to the article quote) but for but for "helping" to supply the missile.
Seems like second-hand responsibility.
So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?
I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!- a theater piece for propaganda purposes. The kind of "show trial" that the USSR was infamous for.
That's what the west has been reduced to.
CAPON: The usual honesty and insight from Ziggy.
Quote:So you agree the charges about TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! and the "murder" charges against the Russians are bullshit?
SIGNYM: I think the charge is as much bullshit as RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!"
CAPON: That actually is totally true, but keep denying.
Great!
Quote:Military? Yes
CAPON: This one is the funniest and lamest broken parallel argument:
"So, whatabout the USA supplying missiles to Saudis, who are using them to genocide Yemenis?"
Sooooo Russia was and still is in league with the Ukrainian separatists to kill Ukrainians, da?
Quote:Yes, we are. We not only provide the weapons, we provide training and targeting. When you have to pretend being stupid to make a point ...
CAPON: Is the US in league with the Saudis to kill Yemenis? No da.
Quote:But we know who it WASN'T bc they were on the phone, at a distance, with no direct responsibility for what happened.
CAPON: The truth is no one - including you - know who pushed the button
Quote:Against people they know weren't there.
CAPON: So, lacking that the court used a charge they could prove...
You asked me to define "political" when you provided a pellucidly clear example?
Stop being a moron, moron.
Let this thread die. You look stupider and weaselier with every post.
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My my...
What a world of difference a weekend makes.
Oh wait... Nevermind.
Nobody still gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.
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Inside the Ukrainian resistance
In Kherson, Russian collaborators are being hunted down
BY David Patrikarakos, July 9, 2022
Right now, the global media is filled with talk of the battle for the Donbas. But it is in the south, with its long coastline and large grain stores, where the war for Ukraine will be won or lost. And it is in Kherson, now under Russian occupation, where we will find the answers to so many questions vital to that victory or defeat. Can the Ukrainian army fight back with sufficient effectiveness to retake a major city from the Russians? Can the country hold out while its grain is stolen and its ports are blockaded? And, perhaps most importantly of all, how real and how strong is Ukrainian resistance under Russian occupation?
***
“We need to understand that the situation is different across the region,” Sergiy Danylov, Deputy Director for the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies, tells me. He continues: “The south and west parts of the Kherson region are a catastrophe. There have been mass killings and rapes — it’s a second Bucha there. Some villages were just totally demolished by the Russians.”
More at https://unherd.com/2022/07/inside-the-ukrainian-resistance/
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Quote:Since Bucha was a staged massacre/ false flag, that must mean everything he's saying about Kherson is bullshit too.
Originally posted by second:
Inside the Ukrainian resistance
In Kherson, Russian collaborators are being hunted down
BY David Patrikarakos, July 9, 2022
Right now, the global media is filled with talk of the battle for the Donbas. But it is in the south, with its long coastline and large grain stores, where the war for Ukraine will be won or lost. And it is in Kherson, now under Russian occupation, where we will find the answers to so many questions vital to that victory or defeat. Can the Ukrainian army fight back with sufficient effectiveness to retake a major city from the Russians? Can the country hold out while its grain is stolen and its ports are blockaded? And, perhaps most importantly of all, how real and how strong is Ukrainian resistance under Russian occupation?
***
“We need to understand that the situation is different across the region,” Sergiy Danylov, Deputy Director for the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies, tells me. He continues: “The south and west parts of the Kherson region are a catastrophe. There have been mass killings and rapes — it’s a second Bucha there.
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Former CIA analyst for Russian affairs, Ray McGovern, on Ukraine and Russia
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I see the Democrats are still cheering on literal Nazis in Ukraine.
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Of all the western analysts out there (Duran, Scott Ritter, Dreizen, Saker, Martyanov etc etc) Larry Johnson has been the most accurate
https://sonar21.com/
I thought this was a funny title:
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Russia Grinds On and Ukraine Chases a Squirrel
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Quote:After the Bucha Massacre, Russian soldier Viktor Bulatov wrote on social media “We need to arrange a Bucha in every khokhol* (slur for Ukrainians) city from Kharkiv to Lviv". Today, the authorities in his hometown confirmed that he has been killed in battle by the Ukrainian Army
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Since Bucha was a staged massacre/ false flag, that must mean everything he's saying about Kherson is bullshit too.
5:24 PM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
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Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.
5:02 AM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1545710060525047809
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Originally posted by second:
Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.
5:02 AM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for Android
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Hmmm...
I've been smoking for 26 years now.
Phillip Morris must not feel too good about the chances of anything other than natural causes killing Putin.
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Desperate for Recruits, Russia Launches a ‘Stealth Mobilization’
July 10, 2022, 12:01 a.m. ET
Leery of a national draft for the Ukraine war, the Kremlin is offering cash bonuses and employing strong arm tactics.
Four Russian veterans of the war in Ukraine recently published short videos online to complain about what they called their shabby treatment after returning to the Russian region of Chechnya, after six weeks on the battlefield.
One claimed to have been denied a promised payment of nearly $2,000. Another grumbled that a local hospital declined to remove shrapnel lodged in his body.
Their public pleas for help got results, but not the kind they were hoping for. Instead, an aide to Ramzan Kadyrov, the autocrat who runs Chechnya, berated them at length on television as ingrates and forced them to recant. “I was paid much more than they promised,” said Nikolai Lipa, the young Russian who had claimed that he had been cheated.
Ordinarily, these sort of complaints might be ignored, but the swift rebuke underscores how Russian officials want to stamp out any criticism about military service in Ukraine. They need more soldiers, desperately, and are already using what some analysts call a ‘‘stealth mobilization’’ to bring in new recruits without resorting to a politically risky national draft.
To make up the manpower shortfall, the Kremlin is relying on a combination of impoverished ethnic minorities, Ukrainians from the separatist territories, mercenaries and militarized National Guard units to fight the war, and promising hefty cash incentives for volunteers.
“Russia has a problem with recruitment and mobilization,” said Kamil Galeev, an independent Russian analyst and former fellow at The Wilson Center in Washington. “It is basically desperate to get more men using any means possible.”
The numbers of battlefield dead and wounded are closely held secrets on both sides. The British military recently estimated the number of dead Russians at 25,000, with tens of thousands more wounded, out of an invasion force of 300,000, including support units.
Yet, President Vladimir V. Putin hobbled the mobilization effort from the beginning, experts said, by refusing to put Russia on a war footing that would have allowed the military to start calling up reserves. Hence, the Kremlin has tried to glue together replacement battalions through other means.
Avoiding a draft for all adult males allows the Kremlin to maintain the fiction that the war is a limited “special military operation,” while also minimizing the risk of the kind of public backlash that spurred the end of previous Russian military debacles, like the one in Afghanistan and the first Chechen war.
The public outcry after Chechnya prompted Russia to ban the use on the battlefield of raw recruits, men aged 18-27 who are required to complete a year of mandatory military service. The revelations that hundreds were deployed in Ukraine anyway, including some of the sailors who died when the Ukrainians sank the Moskva, the flagship of the Black Sea fleet, prompted the very outrage from parents that the Kremlin had sought to avoid.
Numerous analysts have raised doubts about how long Russia can sustain its offensive in Ukraine without a general mobilization. Igor Girkin, a military analyst and a frequent critic of the Ukraine strategy, has said that Russia cannot possibly conquer the entire country without one.
But the Kremlin seems determined to avoid taking such a drastic step. Instead, recruitment offices have resorted to calling reservists repeatedly to offer cash incentives for short deployments. Online want ads placed by the regional recruitment offices of the Ministry of Defense also overflow with thousands of postings for those with military specialties. Recent listings on global job sites like Head Hunter included units looking for combat engineers, anyone who could operate a grenade launcher and even the commander for a parachute squadron.
The salaries offered to some volunteers, which can range between $2,000 and $6,000 a month
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Quote:67 percent
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.
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Hmmm...
I've been smoking for 26 years now.
Phillip Morris must not feel too good about the chances of anything other than natural causes killing Putin.
The study of more than 200,000 people, published in BMC medicine, found about 67 percent of smokers perished from smoking-related illness. That rate is higher than doctors previously estimated.
Feb 26, 2015
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-015-0281
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Originally posted by second:Quote:67 percent
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Warning on cigs in Ukraine now says you should quit smoking so you get to see how Putin dies.
5:02 AM · Jul 9, 2022·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1545710060525047809
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Hmmm...
I've been smoking for 26 years now.
Phillip Morris must not feel too good about the chances of anything other than natural causes killing Putin.
The study of more than 200,000 people, published in BMC medicine, found about 67 percent of smokers perished from smoking-related illness. That rate is higher than doctors previously estimated.
Feb 26, 2015
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-015-0281
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Oh. I'm not telling you that smoking doesn't kill people, dummy.
It's a LONG burn though.
https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2017/37/heavy-smokers-cut-their-lifespan
-by-13-years-on-average
Quote:
The average lifespan of heavy smokers (smoking more than twenty cigarettes per day) is 13 years shorter than that of non-smokers.
The average lifespan in Ukraine is 71.83 years.
Let's call it 59 years for heavy smokers then.
Putin is 69 years old now.
The average age of Russians is 73.08 years.
Is tracksuit cocksucker Zelinsky going to get Putin before he dies of old age?
Chances are that even a 55 year old smoker in Ukraine is going to know the answer to that whether they quit or not.
Meanwhile, Democrats won't have any power in 4 months, so the war on Russia is going to end anyhow.
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Quote:was he even there?
SIGNYM:
Since Bucha was a staged massacre/ false flag, that must mean everything he's saying about Kherson is bullshit too.
SECOND: After the Bucha Massacre*, Russian soldier Viktor Bulatov
Quote:Using what? His dick? Russian soldiers aren't allowed personal phones while fighting
wrote on social media
Quote:
“We need to arrange a Bucha in every khokhol* (slur for Ukrainians) city from Kharkiv to Lviv". Today, the authorities in his hometown confirmed that he has been killed in battle by the Ukrainian Army
Quote:
Ukraine Official Fired Over Handling of Russian Sexual Assault Claims
https://www.newsweek.com/lyudmila-denisova-ukraine-commissioner-human-
rights-removed-russian-sexual-assault-claims-1711680
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Russia is using only a fraction of it's army in Ukraine. Some analysts say 20pct, others put the figure at 8pct.
All Russia has to do is deploy more of it's military to Ukraine.
AFA Ukraine/ NATO/ the combined west "winning" in Ukraine, Putin said, of Russian capability, (and I paraphrase) "You ain't seen nothing yet".
*****
I'm NOT "pro-Russian", as CAPON characterized me, just as I'm not "pro Trump".
But I'm allergic to lies, propaganda, and stupidity. Lying to others all the time, eventually you believe your own lies. Look at SECOND: He's twisted his brain into knots believing all of the contradictory lies that he slurps up elsewhere and shits out here.
Lying to yourself: Is that any way to live in the real world?
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Senior officers from the fifth brigade of the Special Forces warned in an open letter to Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko against sending troops to fight in Ukraine, describing that such decision is "pure suicide".
"By entering the war against Ukraine, Belarus will be evicted from the community of civilized states and will be an international outcast for many years to come," the military officers wrote.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-lukashenko-faces-revolt-officers-a
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Russia going backwards.
https://bit.ly/3AGLjuA
Moscow councillor jailed for seven years after criticising Ukraine war
Alexei Gorinov receives first long-term sentence under harsh laws introduced since Russian invasion
A court in Moscow has sentenced an opposition councillor to seven years in jail for criticising Russia’s military actions in Ukraine, the first prison sentence handed out under the new laws that restrict criticism of the war.
Alexei Gorinov, a deputy at Moscow’s Krasnoselsky district council and trained lawyer, was arrested in April on charges of spreading “knowingly false information” about the Russian army.
According to the authorities, Gorinov committed the offence when he and a fellow opposition deputy, Elena Kotenochkina, spoke out against the council’s proposal to hold a children’s drawing contest and a dancing festival despite the war in Ukraine, where Gorinov said “children were dying”.
“I believe all efforts of [Russian] civil society should be aimed only at stopping the war and withdrawing Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine,” Gorinov said during the work meeting, which was recorded on video and is available on YouTube.
In a closing statement on Thursday, Gorinov said he was innocent, pointing to his rights to free expression under the Russian constitution, while also repeating his criticism of the “vile” war in Ukraine.
< Love this guy's stones: >
“War, whatever synonym you call it, is the last, dirtiest, vile thing, unworthy of the title of a man,” Gorinov said. “I thought that Russia exhausted its limit on wars back in the 20th century. However, our present is Bucha, Irpin, and Hostomel. Do these names mean something to you? You, the accusers – take an interest and do not say later that you did not know anything,” he added, referring to the three cities outside Kyiv where Russian troops are accused of committing war crimes.
Among those awaiting trial for spreading “false information” about Russia’s military is the prominent opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza and the St Petersburg-based artist Alexandra Skochilenko, who is accused of replacing supermarket price labels with messages protesting against Moscow’s military campaign in Ukraine.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia is using only a fraction of it's army in Ukraine. Some analysts say 20pct, others put the figure at 8pct.
All Russia has to do is deploy more of it's military to Ukraine.
AFA Ukraine/ NATO/ the combined west "winning" in Ukraine, Putin said, of Russian capability, (and I paraphrase) "You ain't seen nothing yet".
*****
I'm NOT "pro-Russian", as CAPON characterized me, just as I'm not "pro Trump".
But I'm allergic to lies, propaganda, and stupidity. Lying to others all the time, eventually you believe your own lies. Look at SECOND: He's twisted his brain into knots believing all of the contradictory lies that he slurps up elsewhere and shits out here.
Lying to yourself: Is that any way to live in the real world?
^ Ziggy inspired by the school of Jack: say the dumbest sht you can because you're desperate for attention. ANY attention.
"Not using all their forces" You should contact Russian HQ and let them know to send more guys - I don't think they've thought of that yet.
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Quote:More lies, propaganda, and stupidity from CAPON.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Russia is using only a fraction of it's army in Ukraine. Some analysts say 20pct, others put the figure at 8pct.
All Russia has to do is deploy more of it's military to Ukraine.
AFA Ukraine/ NATO/ the combined west "winning" in Ukraine, Putin said, of Russian capability, (and I paraphrase) "You ain't seen nothing yet".
*****
I'm NOT "pro-Russian", as CAPON characterized me, just as I'm not "pro Trump".
But I'm allergic to lies, propaganda, and stupidity. Lying to others all the time, eventually you believe your own lies. Look at SECOND: He's twisted his brain into knots believing all of the contradictory lies that he slurps up elsewhere and shits out here.
Lying to yourself: Is that any way to live in the real world?
^ Ziggy inspired by the school of Jack: say the dumbest sht you can because you're desperate for attention. ANY attention.
"Not using all their forces" You should contact Russian HQ and let them know to send more guys - I don't think they've thought of that yet.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:More lies, propaganda, and stupidity from CAPON.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
^ Ziggy inspired by the school of Jack: say the dumbest sht you can because you're desperate for attention. ANY attention.
"Not using all their forces" You should contact Russian HQ and let them know to send more guys - I don't think they've thought of that yet.
I notice how you skip right past the unflattering facts posted about Russia so you can post the usual... nothing.
Let me help - I'll repost:
Russia going backwards.
https://bit.ly/3AGLjuA
Moscow councillor jailed for seven years after criticising Ukraine war
Alexei Gorinov receives first long-term sentence under harsh laws introduced since Russian invasion
A court in Moscow has sentenced an opposition councillor to seven years in jail for criticising Russia’s military actions in Ukraine, the first prison sentence handed out under the new laws that restrict criticism of the war.
Alexei Gorinov, a deputy at Moscow’s Krasnoselsky district council and trained lawyer, was arrested in April on charges of spreading “knowingly false information” about the Russian army.
According to the authorities, Gorinov committed the offence when he and a fellow opposition deputy, Elena Kotenochkina, spoke out against the council’s proposal to hold a children’s drawing contest and a dancing festival despite the war in Ukraine, where Gorinov said “children were dying”.
“I believe all efforts of [Russian] civil society should be aimed only at stopping the war and withdrawing Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine,” Gorinov said during the work meeting, which was recorded on video and is available on YouTube.
In a closing statement on Thursday, Gorinov said he was innocent, pointing to his rights to free expression under the Russian constitution, while also repeating his criticism of the “vile” war in Ukraine.
< Love this guy's stones: >
“War, whatever synonym you call it, is the last, dirtiest, vile thing, unworthy of the title of a man,” Gorinov said. “I thought that Russia exhausted its limit on wars back in the 20th century. However, our present is Bucha, Irpin, and Hostomel. Do these names mean something to you? You, the accusers – take an interest and do not say later that you did not know anything,” he added, referring to the three cities outside Kyiv where Russian troops are accused of committing war crimes.
Among those awaiting trial for spreading “false information” about Russia’s military is the prominent opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza and the St Petersburg-based artist Alexandra Skochilenko, who is accused of replacing supermarket price labels with messages protesting against Moscow’s military campaign in Ukraine.
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However, our present is Bucha, Irpin, and Hostomel.
I imagine this is what got him in trouble. He's accusing the Russian army of committing atrocities.
I'm not about to defend Russia's internal policies. Here we have freedom of speech. Well, technically, anyway, altho don't ask the Jan 6 protesters!
There, they don't even have the legal fiction.
That's one reason not to be pro-Russian. OTOH I don't put up with the lies, propaganda, bullying, bullshit, censorship, and rah-rah-ism here either.
Why do you?
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Russian Oligarchs Who Died Mysteriously This Year Have Two Things in Common
Since the start of the year, at least seven Russian oligarchs have been found dead under mysterious circumstances in a grim trend happening alongside the ongoing Russia-Ukraine War.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarchs-found-dead-all-have-2-thing
s-common-1705780
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Nobody cares.
How much did you pay for gas today?
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Quote:Prices were $3.69 to $3.79
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
How much did you pay for gas today?
https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/texas/houston
You can see past prices adjusted for inflation at https://imgur.com/gallery/sS5fBtS
1929 $3.59/gallon gasoline
1933 $4.13
1980 $4.25
1981 $4.25
2012 $4.57
Average Price: Gasoline, Unleaded Regular (NOT adjusted for inflation)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=RChu
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Hehe.
Keep pretending that all is well dude.
They were regularly $2.30 under Trump for 4 years, and they didn't drive up the cost of every other fucking thing too.
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Quote:Fox News is now saying that gas prices are falling too fast, with a host saying that this decline is “historically faster than usual” which is causing “independently-owned mom-and-pop gas stations” to “struggle.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hehe.
Keep pretending that all is well dude.
They were regularly $2.30 under Trump for 4 years, and they didn't drive up the cost of every other fucking thing too.
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2:40 PM · Jul 11, 2022·Twitter Web App
Here is the clip.
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1546580272698822657
6ix, you keep reminding me that high prices are VERY GOOD for sellers. It is only BAD for buyers, but if you're a seller, why would you care what happens to buyers? And how is the President gonna force sellers to care? How? I really want to know how you think prices are set, 6ix. (Since sellers set the price, they set it to whatever is best for themselves, never what is best for buyers. Never. Never have. Never will. What is best for sellers is what is worst for buyers, just so you know.)
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I don't watch FOX News. I don't give a shit what FOX News says.
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Quote:FOX doesn't tell you what to think. Instead, FOX repeats back to the audience what their audience already thinks: Democrats caused all my problems. Prices go down? Democrats caused that problem.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't watch FOX News. I don't give a shit what FOX News says.
If Trump were President, FOX would say Trump caused the prices to go down, but that is not how prices work. FOX and Trump also said there would not be war in Ukraine if Trump were President. Then FOX and Trump said Ukraine would have already won if Trump were President, but that, too, is not how war works. The message is always the same: Democrats are the problem.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Here we have freedom of speech. Well, technically, anyway, altho don't ask the Jan 6 protesters!
The fact that you know so little about the "protest" is telling.
"peacefully assemble?" No, violence with intent. Do I have to show the violence some of the Jan 6 Trump mob committed inside the capital?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
OTOH I don't put up with the lies, propaganda, bullying, bullshit, censorship, and rah-rah-ism here either.
Why do you?
I can't stop you from typing what you type. I can only challenge it, show the inconsistencies, lies, deflections and false claims and hope others recognize it for what it is.
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Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.
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Wars are won by people willing to fight for comrade and cause | Aeon Essays
Throughout history, the most effective combatants, revolutionaries and insurgents have been ‘devoted actors’ fused together by dedication to non-negotiable ‘sacred values’ such as God, country or liberty. Military incursions nearly always plan for maximum force at the beginning to ensure victory. But if defenders resist, or are allowed to recoup, then the advantage often shifts to those with the will to fight as they increasingly harness resources against their attackers who are maxed-out in terms of what they are able, or willing, to commit: consider Napoleon and then Hitler and their onslaught against Russia, or the United States’ invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Throughout history, those willing to sacrifice for cause and comrades, and for their leaders, have often prevailed against more powerful forces that mainly rely on material incentives such as pay and punishment.
During Operation Barbarossa, Nazi Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, the Wehrmacht general Günther Blumentritt wrote in his diary:
Many of our leaders grossly underestimated this adversary … Even when surrounded, exhausted, and deprived of a chance to fight, the Russians never back down.
Although the surprise German attack initially advanced rapidly against Soviet forces, the unyielding resistance of Russia’s soldiers and people slowed the advance enough to allow the Red Army to eventually recover and ultimately triumph. Participating in the Red Army’s victory were 4 to 7 million Ukrainian fighters, including Zelensky’s grandfather (his three great-uncles perished during the Holocaust, and his grandparents burned to death in a German massacre).
Speaking this May at a military parade commemorating the 1945 Soviet Victory over Nazi Germany, Russia’s president Vladimir Putin sought to tie Russia’s old fight against Nazi Germany with the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.
Believing, or compelled to believe, such rhetoric, Russia’s political and military leadership continues to assess Ukraine’s will to fight, and its inspiration in shoring up the Western alliance, as a combination of ‘Nazi’ bluster and bullying, rather than ever-strengthening resolve. Ironically, Ukraine’s current tactics strongly resemble Russia’s approach at Stalingrad. Thus, whereas Russia now, like the Germans before, preferred to pummel cities with long-range artillery and aerial bombing, followed by lightning tank advances with infantry across open spaces, Ukraine’s defenders have profitably adopted the Soviet Second World War tactic of closely ‘hugging’ the enemy with small independent units operating in urban ruins to ambush and snipe at every turn. Russia’s present generals are beginning to learn the Wehrmacht’s lessons in the face of Ukraine’s resistance, which seems closer in spirit to Russia’s sacrifice in the Great Patriotic War.
Yet Russia’s initial assessment of Ukraine’s will to fight, and of Western support and steadfastness, was little different from that of the Western allies themselves. For the most part, they believed a rapid Russian victory was virtually assured, and that any serious Western military support for Ukraine or economic action against Moscow would only further fragment what the French president Emmanuel Macron, echoing the then US president Donald Trump’s claim that NATO was ‘obsolete’, considered in 2019 a nearly ‘brain dead’ NATO. Although Ukraine may ultimately cede territory to overwhelming Russian force, NATO – reinforced by Ukraine’s valiant effort – may well diminish Russia’s national security, economy (decoupled from Europe) and power.
More at https://aeon.co/essays/wars-are-won-by-people-willing-to-fight-for-com
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