Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Originally posted by THG: Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.
I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.
But a "coup" attempt?
Without widely distributed guns; a plan to secure the capitol, police forces, and media; and an organization ready to take over the government?
You're still abyssmally stupid. When will you start using whatever neurons you have?
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SignyM:
Here we have freedom of speech. Well, technically, anyway, altho don't ask the Jan 6 protesters!
CAPON: The fact that you know so little about the "protest" is telling.
htt p://youtu.be/Iludfj6Pe7w
"peacefully assemble?" No, violence with intent. Do I have to show the violence some of the Jan 6 Trump mob committed inside the capital?
Same answer as to THUGR, in detail:
Number of people attending; estimated at as much as 120,000
Number of people who entered the capitol bldg (including those who walked in) 800-1,200
Number of people ultimately arrested: approximately 900
Number of people charged with "seditious behavior": 10
Number of people charged with bringing a gun to the capitol: THREE (or five, depending on how you want to count it.)
Number of police with serius injuries: about 50
Number of fires started or buildings burned: zero
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The most common charge pleaded guilty to: "illegally parading or demonstrating in the Capitol, a misdemeanor"
... many of those sentenced so far were only convicted of illegally entering the Capitol building, and were not involved in the more violent and destructive aspects related to storming the building.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/04/jan-6-insurrection-sentencing
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https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-char
ges-names-2021-1
What the numbers show is that the overwhelming majority (99%) were peacefully protesting, and of those who entered a restriced area, most did so without weapons.
A FEW used weapons adventitiously at-hand: planks, flagpoles, etc and a vanishingly small number brought weapons (eg. hockey stick) with them.
If that's an "insurrection", it's a paltry one.
It best fits the description of a "riot".
The OVERHWELMING MAJORITY were engaged in First Amendment speech.
You can show that "weapons" were involved, which makes it "armed", but don't conflate it with an "insurrection"
Quote:But "social media" and the M$M can, and does.
Originally posted by SignyM:
OTOH I don't put up with the lies, propaganda, bullying, bullshit, censorship, and rah-rah-ism here either.
Why do you?
CAPON: I can't stop you from typing what you type.
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CAPON: I can onlychallenge it, show the inconsistencies, lies, deflections and false claims and hope others recognize it for what it is.defame you, lie about what you've posted, bully you, lie about what happened, and in general behave like an asshole with an agenda.
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A law enforcment view:
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Thousands of cops were injured, over $2 billion in damage during Floyd riots. Where are the “congressional hearings”?
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/thousands-of-cops-were-injured-ove
r-2-billion-in-damage-during-floyd-riots-where-are-the-congressional-hearings/
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Quote:The cops only had to kill Ashli Babbitt and then the other Trumptards ran away. But if the Trumptards hadn't run, the cops had enough bullets to kill them all. One bullet into Putin's chest would be enough to end the Ukrainian War. But if one bullet won't do, the Ukrainians have enough ammo to kill every Russian on the wrong side of the border.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG: Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.
I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.
But a "coup" attempt?
Without widely distributed guns; a plan to secure the capitol, police forces, and media; and an organization ready to take over the government?
You're still abyssmally stupid. When will you start using whatever neurons you have?
Department of Justice Closes Investigation into the Death of Ashli Babbitt
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investiga
tion-death-ashli-babbitt
What Happened to the Jan. 6 Insurrectionists Arrested Since the Capitol Riot - June 15, 2022
https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by THG: Comrade Signym refuses to acknowledge G, that Jan. 6th is about riots and a coup attempt, not protests. And let's not forget the obvious reasons why she refuses to admit this. She is Russian.
SIGNY: I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.
But a "coup" attempt?
Without widely distributed guns; a plan to secure the capitol, police forces, and media; and an organization ready to take over the government?
You're still abyssmally stupid. When will you start using whatever neurons you have?
SECOND: The cops only had to kill Ashli Babbitt and then the other Trumptards ran away.
So, not an insurrection then!
Quote:MORE evidence that it was not an insurrection! Bc clearly, the protesters/ trespassers/ rioters weren't prepared to fight.
SECOND: But if the Trumptards hadn't run, the cops had enough bullets to kill them all.
Quote:More sick fantasies.
Ones bullet into Putin's chest would be enough to end the Ukrainian War. But if one bullet won't do, the Ukrainians have enough ammo to kill every Russian on the wrong side of the border.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.
More like a protest turned into a riot and then turned into a coup, although a coup was always the design from Trump. There were plenty of weapons, bombs even - crude but deadly.
"But a "coup" attempt?" - uh-huh.
"Without widely distributed guns" - they had them stock piled in VA and locally - read something.
"a plan to secure the capitol" - that wouldn't stop a mob, especially with hostages - zip ties? What were they for??
"police forces" - how do you know? Crazy as fck Mike Flynn's brother was the deputy chief of staff of the Army, and the Army is reporting:
"The Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell the unfolding violence at the US Capitol."
"and media" - They had The Internet. Yanno Twitter, Facebook. Bigger and more focused and more immediate that the "media" I think you're talking about.
"and an organization ready to take over the government?" - uh, Trump? The former president? Who knows what he was thinking, but the who knows what Jim Jones was thinking.
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Quote:"Special military operation" is okay, but never use the terms “invasion”, “attack” or “war”. This is the same reasoning as declaring never use the term "insurrection" for the January 6th Insurrection.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Blah. Blah. Blah.
Do not call Ukraine invasion a ‘war’, Russia tells media, schools
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/2/do-not-call-ukraine-invasion-a
-war-russia-tells-media-schools
And it is fact, not fantasy, that Putin acting alone started the "special military operation". Putin is the engine that makes the war go on and on.
Russian President Putin Statement on Ukraine - February 21, 2022
https://www.c-span.org/video/?518097-2/russian-president-putin-recogni
zes-independence-donetsk-luhansk-ukraines-donbas-region
A successor to a very dead Putin would not continue Putin's fantasies of becoming Peter the Great. What Russian successor to Putin would be so stupid as to continue a war that makes the Russian army look weak to glorify Putin's reputation in the history books?
Looking weak has happened to Russia twice before when a little country murdered Russian soldiers and then Russia gives up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
Ukraine is making Russia look weak a third time. Russia better declare victory, then withdraw, as it did in two wars with Finland. Funny how Finland laid siege to Leningrad, resulting in the deaths of some one million of the city's civilians and Red Army defenders. After that, Russia was scared of Finland. Still is.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/siege-of-leningrad-begins
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Quote:You see "coup attempts" when there aren't any, but can't see them when they exist (Ukraine 2014, Kazakhstan).
]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've always say it was a protest that SOME people turned into a riot.
CC: More like a protest turned into a riot and then turned into a coup, although a coup was always the design from Trump. There were plenty of weapons, bombs even - crude but deadly.
"But a "coup" attempt?" - uh-huh.
As violent as the Antifa riots were.. and there, rioters assembled night after night specifically to attack federal property and federal officers with Molotov cocktails, fireworks etc, even attempting to burn federal officers alive in their bldg... I wouldn't even label THAT a "coup attempt".
There has to be a concerted attempt to topple the government and replace it. I saw no such plan. Maybe it bc if Trump's failure think things thru and plan properly - a personality defect tied to his ADHD - but where was the plan to secure the police, the official media, the mayorship of DC? In Ukraine you heard Nuland deciding who would be mayor of Kiev (Klitschko) and who would head the interim government. In Kazakhstan one of the first things done was to take over the media offices.
Quote:How many? You would need HUNDREDS of readily available firearms to create an effective fighting force capable of immediately neutralizing establishment security forces.
CC: "Without widely distributed guns" - they had them stock piled in VA and locally - read something.
People would need to know where they were and be able to lay their hands on them in minutes, not hours. People would need to have assigned sectors to secure. There would HAVE to be some sort of centralized communication. A LOT of people would have to know about it and be ready to act.
Your lack of reality-planning astonishes me.
Quote:Again, you would need HUNDREDS of people ready to act in a coordinated manner, not a dozen nutbags rattling around.
"a plan to secure the capitol" - that wouldn't stop a mob, especially with hostages - zip ties? What were they for??
You know how I know it wasn't a "coup attempt"? Because there WAS NO PLAN, no collusion, no conspiracy among many significant number of people. Just bc someone show up with zip ties, or a horned helmet, doesn't mean they're ready to take over government. If this was a coup attempt it was less than a half-baked one.
Quote:What's your point? A real coup attempt would have been prepared to meet the National Guard. Instead, they weren't prepared for anything, according to SECIND.
CC: "police forces" - how do you know? Crazy as fck Mike Flynn's brother was the deputy chief of staff of the Army, and the Army is reporting:
"The Army is now acknowledging that Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, the brother of President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, was in the room for one of the key January 6 phone calls in which DC government and US Capitol Police were asking for National Guard troops to quell the unfolding violence at the US Capitol."
Quote:yes, but THEY COULDN'T TAKE IT OVER. REAL coup plotters take over channels of communication so the general population depends on them for news and instructions. Not only did they not control the lines of communication, they could be shut down in an instant.
"and media" - They had The Internet.
Quote:Blah blah blah. Think thru what a REAL coup takes. Usually it requires the involvement of a disaffected military, spec ops or mercs.
CC: Yanno Twitter, Facebook. Bigger and more focused and more immediate that the "media" I think you're talking about.
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"and an organization ready to take over the government?" - uh, Trump? The former president? Who knows what he was thinking, but the who knows what Jim Jones was thinking.
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Quote:From a practical standpoint, if Russia calls it a "war" they can mobilize the military and economy. Right now they're operating from a peacetime military.
SignyM: Blah. Blah. Blah.
SECOND: Special military operation" is okay, but never use the terms “invasion”, “attack” or “war”.
Quote:Because it was not an insurrection. Nor was it a 'coup attempt".
SECOND: This is the same reasoning as declaring never use the term "insurrection" for the January 6th Insurrection.
Quote:It is fantasy that Putin "acts alone". Putin NEVER acts alone. He needed the concurrence of his military, diplomatic, finance, and economic ministers as well as the Duma. Russia has been working on addressing this security problem for YEARS.
SECOND: And it is fact, not fantasy, that Putin acting alone
Quote:Putin is seen in Russia as a MODERATING force, not an aggressive one. An assassination would cause the rest of Russia's power structure to be even more hostile than it is now
SECOND: A successor to a very dead Putin would not continue Putin's fantasies of becoming Peter the Great.
Quote:It is another fantasy to imagine that Russia's army looks "weak". They're winning with INFERIOR numbers. I don't know where you get your info from, but it's horseshit
SECOND: What Russian successor to Putin would be so stupid as to continue a war that makes the Russian army look weak to glorify Putin's reputation in the history books?
Quote:so, are you admitting that Finland was allied with the Nazis? And that Russia was not only fighting "Finland", it was also fighting Germany?
SECOND: Ukraine is making Russia look weak a third time. Russia better declare victory, then withdraw, as it did in two wars with Finland. Funny how Finland laid siege to Leningrad, resulting in the deaths of some one million of the city's civilians and Red Army defenders. After that, Russia was scared of Finland. Still is.
You must be fantasizing that Russia today is the same as Russia of 1939.
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Insurrection: noun
The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.A rising up; uprising.The act of rising against civil authority or governmental restraint; specifically, the armed resistance of a number of persons to the power of the state; incipient or limited rebellion.
How many people with how many firearms does it take to make an "insurrection"?
One? Can you have an insurrection of one? A dozen? A hundred?
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I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.
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Quote:For one thing, Russia is a smaller country, with a weaker economy, than it was when called the Soviet Union. In the larger scheme of things, South Korea is a bigger economy than Russia and North Korea is a more dangerous nuclear power than Russia.
Originally posted by SignyM:
so, are you admitting that Finland was allied with the Nazis? And that Russia was not only fighting "Finland", it was also fighting Germany?
You must be fantasizing that Russia today is the same as Russia of 1939.
https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/
And Russia is still frightened of Finland. Russia threatened Finland if it joined NATO. Finland joined NATO. When the Nazi were no longer useful to Finland for killing a million Russians in Stalingrad, Finland went to war with the Nazis. And won. The world and Finland went on just great without a million Russians, but since then Russia has left Finland alone.
Finland named world's happiest country for fifth straight year. Russians are the saddest.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/finland-worlds-happiest-country-fifth-str
aight-year-afghanistan-last/
Russians recognize how weak their country actually is, even if Putin and his apologists keep bragging like the pipsqueaks they are. If St. Petersburg wants revenge against Helsinki for WWII, it better hurry before it is too late:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-sweden-sign-protocol-join
-nato-still-need-ratification-2022-07-05/
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.
You’re the Steve Bannon of this forum. Never at a loss for words but rarely ever right. You *try* desperately to convince us that every coup has the same punch list like some home remodeling project, when you in fact that’s just you being obtuse or purposely stupid or max OCD. You’re great at saying what would be perfect without acknowledging or understanding that perfect is only on paper. Things in RL rarely go as planned - in RL too many variables. Trump had just lost all hopes of recounts and law suits and false electors (plus other scams) to get re-elected. There was no time to methodically plan D, let alone what to do after. All there was was desperation and enough whack jobs around and a big enough, angry enough and gullible enough mob to give him hope and do his bidding. It almost worked for a time, but I have little doubt that it would have lasted longer than 48-72 hours. I honestly bet none of them thought they would get as far as they did. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
And being such smart people we also see you trying to side track this thread. Almost like you hate threads that expose Russian murdering innocent civilians.
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Quote:. The problem is, the "coup", as you imagine it to be, had NONE of the necessary elements. You're going to have to do a lot better than saying Trump was frustrated with the vote count.
SignyM:
I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.
CAPON: You’re the Steve Bannon of this forum. Never at a loss for words but rarely ever right. You *try* desperately to convince us that every coup has the same punch list like some home remodeling project, blah blah bkah
Show me, with evidence, that Trump called for a coup and that people responded by planning one.
Quote:well then, concede that you're wrong, and stop arguing.
CC: And being such smart people we also see you trying to side track this thread. Almost like you hate threads that expose Russian murdering innocent civilians.
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Quote:Smaller? Yes. Weaker? No.
SignyM:
so, are you admitting that Finland was allied with the Nazis? And that Russia was not only fighting "Finland", it was also fighting Germany?
You must be fantasizing that Russia today is the same as Russia of 1939.
SECIND: For one thing, Russia is a smaller country, with a weaker economy, than it was when called the Soviet Union.
Quote:Are you fucking stupid? S Korea doesn't have the resources, it can't field an army, and it's completely dependent on trade for it's survival
SECOND: In the larger scheme of things, South Korea is a bigger economy than Russia
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SECOND: blah blah blah...
Quote:So, Finland turned in it's former ally, Nazi Germany, and fought it, all by it's lonesome. Like the Germans weren't distrtacted by fighting Russia on a 1000 mile front, and the western allies on a 250 mile front?
SECOND: And Russia is still frightened of Finland. Russia threatened Finland if it joined NATO. Finland joined NATO. When the Nazi were no longer useful to Finland for killing a million Russians in Stalingrad, Finland went to war with the Nazis. And won.
You don't REALLY expect us to believe your counterfactual history, do you???
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SECOND: More blah blah blah...
Jeezus, stop drowning the board in bullshit, willya?
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Quote:Signym, Russia invaded Finland twice to steal their land. Russia lost both wars. Then it was payback time: Finland invades Russia, using the Nazis to murder a million Russians in St. Petersburg. Well, Russians helped by killing and eating each other. Russians certainly have dramatic lives, don't they?
Originally posted by SignyM:
. . . goddamn nonsense from Signym . . .
Because of a special police force, the Russians' biggest achievement was stopping being cannibals. Meanwhile, Finland has prospered mightily in the larger, freer world where cannibals aren't allowed. Finland, for five years in a row, has been the happiest country in the world. Russia is not a happy country. Perhaps cannibalism made them bitter and disagreeable?
By the way, South Korea does have an economy bigger than Russia's, probably because Koreans are not lazy and stupid, unlike some countries we know. Korea also didn't prosper by invading and stealing from other countries, unlike some countries we know. Korea didn't rape and pillage its own land, unlike some countries we know.
The HARROWING true story of the USSR’s ‘Cannibal Island’
https://www.rbth.com/history/333994-harrowing-true-story-of-cannibals
There are many stories about Russians eating their dead. What a freaky nationality:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+did+russia+stop+cannibalism
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So, you're going with the "Rusians are cannibals" trope, not "Germans are genocidal maniacs" trope.
Oh, dear me: I've said more than once that you want to rewrite history, and- you are!
At the time that "Russia invaded Finland' there was no Finland, only Sweden. In fact, Finland achieved its independence from Sweden BECAUSE of Russia. Russia was afraid of SWEDEN, not Finland, and split Finland from Sweden to weaken Sweden. Finland was never an issue, but- BTW, someone from Finland worked for me for a couple of years - they still resent the Swedes to some extent. Swedish is still a minor language in Finland, a leftover from when they were part of the Swedish kingdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_of_Finland
Finnish is a strange language. They modify words by adding onto them and they can get VERY long. It's nothing like any of the other European languages, bc it doesn't descend from Latin or German roots.
I was introduced to The Moomins by my colleague. https://www.moomin.com/en/explore/ The Finns have a different outlook than we do and it shows in their cartoons and stories.
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Quote:Russians aren’t literal cannibals, just yet, but they have turned against each other.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, you're going with the "Rusians are cannibals" trope, not "Germans are genocidal maniacs" trope.
From the Christian Science Monitor: Even loyalists are targets in latest Russian crackdown. Why?
Definitions of “treason” and what brands a citizen as a “foreign agent” have been gradually expanding for several years in Russia. But a recent spate of unusual criminal cases amid the nearly 5-month-old war in Ukraine suggests that the trust that binds the Kremlin with the various elites who actually run the system may be starting to fray.
The cases are all different, and some observers insist that most have nothing to do with the ongoing war. But no one disputes that the number of treason-related prosecutions has jumped fivefold over the past decade as Russia’s geopolitical tensions with the West have exploded, and that some people formerly thought of as “untouchable” have suddenly found themselves behind bars.
While loyalists disagree, government critics speculate that the surge in treason-related cases is a sign that the Kremlin is afraid of losing control, and is looking for enemies to make examples of.
Sergei Markov, a former Putin adviser, argues that the war-related tightening of screws is very real.
“The Kremlin sees the threat from the West as our biggest danger. Even if the situation seems stable now, we have seen that they are out to destroy us. [U.S. President Joe] Biden has said as much,” he says.
“Some unofficial polls show that 70% of state journalists oppose the special operation, even if they seem to be doing their jobs properly right now. The potential for protests is actual; they will happen if the state shows any weakness at all. Putin and his colleagues are former intelligence operatives. They are very suspicious. They see threats emanating from the West and – you know what? – events have often proven them to be right.”
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220713103047/https://www.csmonitor.com/W
orld/Europe/2022/0712/Even-loyalists-are-targets-in-latest-Russian-crackdown.-Why
Signym, you might have noticed a theme here: Russia accused of war crimes denies it committed war crimes, saying the Ukrainians did it, not Russia. Ha! Russia accused of killing a plane full of Dutch passengers and denies it shot them down. Ha! Russia attacks Finland, twice, and is beaten by little Finland. Decades later, Russia threatens to nuke Finland if it joins NATO. Finland joins NATO. Ha! The theme? Russians are mentally unbalanced people. It is unsurprising they are some of the unhappiest people on Earth while Finland wins the title of happiest five years in a row. Not surprising, Russians are still afraid of Germany, but Finland is not in the least afraid. Must be that Russia was permanently traumatized by close contact with the Nazis while Finland sailed proudly through WWII with no regrets. By the way, Finland didn't need the USA and UK to save the small country from the mighty Nazis, but Russia would have been defeated without the USA and UK.
Finland Doesn’t Understand Why It Keeps Winning the “Happiest Country” Title
For the fifth year in a row, the Nordic nation is the most content in the world
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/health-and-fitness/finland-happ
iest-country-title-fifth-year
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‘We have a new Hitler in Russia’: Pussy Riot’s Maria Alyokhina on Putin’s crimes and her years of resistance
When three of them, including Alyokhina, were arrested for hooliganism in 2012 and sentenced to two years in jail, it didn’t leave much of a mark on Putin’s reputation, even though human rights organisations such as Amnesty International designated them political prisoners. The protest was deadly serious: it was against Orthodox Church leaders’ support for Putin and the blind eye they were turning to his corruption and creeping totalitarianism. Yet the substance of that, and the harsh consequences it had, was ignored in the service of everyone playing nice at international summits.
Alyokhina rolls her eyes, as if to say that is not the half of it: “We were released on 23 December 2013. A month after our release, we made an action [demonstrated]: ‘Putin will teach you how to love the motherland.’ That was at Sochi, the Olympic Games, and that was the first time we were beaten physically. That was the first moment that I understood: Russia was already worse than when we were imprisoned.”
Two weeks later, Putin annexed Crimea – “the first point of no way back”, she says. “Especially shocking was the very weak reaction of the west. There were slight sanctions, but nations continued to deal with Russian businesses. Germany was selling weapons to Putin’s regime, evading the weapon embargo. A lot of capital from oligarchs went to Britain, especially to London. I spoke at the European parliament, in your parliament, in the US Senate. Everyone was ‘deeply concerned’, but nothing happened. In Russian activist circles, there are a lot of jokes about the west being deeply concerned: it means they are not going to do anything.”
If there had been the sanctions there are now after Crimea and the subsequent invasion of the Donbas, Alyokhina is certain that we would not be in this mess today. “We were calling for a full embargo in 2014 and again in 2015. We were doing street actions. I was arrested 100 times. I hear a lot of discussion in the west that it’s very hard and painful to stop buying oil and gas – well, you guys had eight years. In eight years, it would have been possible. In one month, it’s hard. Maybe politicians were afraid of their voters protesting that their houses were cold. Now Ukrainians don’t have houses at all.”
She lays out in brutal terms what this combination of inertia and self-interest has created. “Money from the west is the basis of our imprisonment, of our poisoning, of political murders and, now, of the war in Ukraine. I really want people to understand this and stop it.”
You can trace Putin’s growing sense of impunity through the totalitarian acts he got away with. And it does bear reflection: how did he manage it with so little censure? The marked, even absolute, absence of women in Russian political life has tended to pass without comment, as a historical or cultural quirk. “All this Russian criminal culture, which dates from the Soviet Union, is very misogynistic,” says Alyokhina. “There is no place for women at the decision-making table. No first ladies, no role for women. Even western journalists trying to write about Russian feminism – who do they name? Alexandra Kollontai. She was living in the 1920s.”
More at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/11/pussy-riot-maria-alyokhi
na-putin-crimes-hitler-years-of-resistance
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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a known ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, warned on Tuesday that there could be a major global conflict on the horizon.
Lukashenko also echoed Putin's criticisms of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, in particular the Russian leader's view of Sweden and Finland's decision to join the alliance.
"Apparently, the newly-minted 'crusaders' of the North Atlantic Alliance suddenly decided that the time is right for another 'Drang nach Osten', forgetting how similar campaigns ended for their historical predecessors," Lukashenko said, alleging that NATO's defensive military exercises are examples of a growing "strike force."
By "Drang nach Osten" — which means "spread to the east" in German — Lukashenko referenced to a term used by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as part of his plan to acquire Slavic territory for German "living space" and the impetus for Nazi conflict in eastern Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-ally-alexander-lukashenko-warns-
big-war-on-the-horizon-2022-7
Lukashenko talked about fighting Nazis in the Second World War and said: "The time has come for the forgetful Europe to give itself a moral cleansing."
"They — all who chose to forget — will have to look again at the grueling evidence of the bloody crimes of their own fathers and grandfathers," he said.
"I must admit that we were delicately silent. In our Slavic way, we believed that children were not responsible for their parents. We still think so."
He did not elaborate on what such a cleansing would entail. (Perhaps the cleansing fire of H-bombs? Putin has outright said he'll nuke the West if NATO troops rescue Ukraine from the Russians. Putin is really mentally stable, isn't he?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-lukashenko-europe-moral-cleans
ing-putin-ukraine-russia-invasion-2022-7
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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a known ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, warned on Tuesday that there could be a major global conflict on the horizon.
Lukashenko also echoed Putin's criticisms of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, in particular the Russian leader's view of Sweden and Finland's decision to join the alliance.
"Apparently, the newly-minted 'crusaders' of the North Atlantic Alliance suddenly decided that the time is right for another 'Drang nach Osten', forgetting how similar campaigns ended for their historical predecessors," Lukashenko said, alleging that NATO's defensive military exercises are examples of a growing "strike force."
By "Drang nach Osten" — which means "spread to the east" in German — Lukashenko referenced to a term used by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as part of his plan to acquire Slavic territory for German "living space" and the impetus for Nazi conflict in eastern Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-ally-alexander-lukashenko-warns-
big-war-on-the-horizon-2022-7
Lukashenko talked about fighting Nazis in the Second World War and said: "The time has come for the forgetful Europe to give itself a moral cleansing."
"They — all who chose to forget — will have to look again at the grueling evidence of the bloody crimes of their own fathers and grandfathers," he said.
"I must admit that we were delicately silent. In our Slavic way, we believed that children were not responsible for their parents. We still think so."
He did not elaborate on what such a cleansing would entail. (Perhaps the cleansing fire of H-bombs? Putin has outright said he'll nuke the West if NATO troops rescue Ukraine from the Russians. Putin is really mentally stable, isn't he?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-lukashenko-europe-moral-cleans
ing-putin-ukraine-russia-invasion-2022-7
Dinosaurs or B-movie villains or both? Whatever, after the chest thumping all they're doing is telegraphing that NATO freaks them out.
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Quote:Yes, and ....?
SECOND: Signym, you might have noticed a theme here: Russia accused of war crimes denies it committed war crimes, saying the Ukrainians did it, not Russia. Ha!
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Russia accused of killing a plane full of Dutch passengers and denies it shot them down. Ha!
I thought we've already established that Russia did NOT shoot down MH17. Even the prosecutors aren't saying that Russians shot down MH17.
You keep forgetting what you previously posted bc you're untethered from reality. It must be scary, living in your free-form world of bullshit and lies, where nothing is what it seems and there is no truth to hang onto. HA!
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Quote:And you're doing what, exactly?
CAPON: Dinosaurs or B-movie villains or both? Whatever, after the chest thumping all they're doing is telegraphing that NATO freaks them out.
Every one of your posts telegraphs that Russia freaks YOU out. Trumps freaks you out, too. I should list all of the bullshit that you and SECOND have insisted is real. Just, yanno, to recap all of your hysterical propaganda.
But at least you've stopped insisting that Jan 6 was an attempted coup.
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Quote:The suspects in the trial are Russians Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. Signym, you are a nut, aren't you?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought we've already established that Russia did NOT shoot down MH17. Even the prosecutors aren't saying that Russians shot down MH17.
You keep forgetting what you previously posted bc you're untethered from reality. It must be scary, living in your free-form world of bullshit and lies, where nothing is what it seems and there is no truth to hang onto. HA!
The helpful article, which explains how absolutely crazy Signym and Russians are about denying what happened, is "Russia 'lying' over role in flight MH17 being shot down, say families of 298 victims at murder trial"
https://news.sky.com/story/russia-lying-over-role-in-flight-mh17-being
-shot-down-say-families-of-298-victims-at-murder-trial-12400615
Russians and Signym constantly use the Firehose of Falsehoods. Not only do Signym and Russians make up lies with no end, they also say that the truth is a lie. That is an especially hard philosophical knot for the Russians to untie. In stark contrast, the Finnish were not driven to insanity by WWII, completely unlike the Russians, who have acted like crazy people ever since that war ended. When will the emotional trauma be over for the Russians? The whole world wants to know when.
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The suspects in the trial are Russians Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. Signym, you are a nut, aren't you?
And what are the charges?
NOT shooting down a plane.
NOT giving the order to shoot down a plane.
NOT even for supplying a missile system
But for "helping" to supply a missile system.
SECOND, I don't know WHAT world you live in, but it's clearly not the real one. Your opinions and feelings are untethered from reality, and you really, really, should get help and meds bc you're nuttier than a fruitcake, and creepier than a snake.
"How many shrinks does it take to change a lightbulb?
Only one, but only if it really wants to change"
You'll have to salvage yourself.
Best of luck.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Every one of your posts...
Every one? Wow.
And "every one of your posts telegraphs that you want America in decline and Russia in ascension."
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
telegraphs that Russia freaks YOU out. Trumps freaks you out, too.
Yep. Putin is one sick fcker. Trump too, but in a more binge greedy fck way.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I should list all of the bullshit that you and SECOND have insisted is real. Just, yanno, to recap all of your hysterical propaganda.
Please do!
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But at least you've stopped insisting that Jan 6 was an attempted coup.
I did? Where?
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Quote:YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
And "every one of your posts telegraphs that you're worried thatwantAmerica [is] in decline and [that] Russia [is] in ascension."
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.
Quote:I think Russia wants to be left alone. But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???
CC:Yep. Putin is one sick fcker.
Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?
What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck.
And I think Russia is doing some things right that we would do we to emulate:
They are truly independent. They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang, and the military to defend it. We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT.
They want to be a sovereign nation. That means they're willing to defend their borders and their rights. We (or at least our elite, anyway) gave away our manufacuring and are pissing away our money and resources on issues and places that have nothing to do with us.
They have a balanced budget. Their currency means something. Their total debt load is far less than ours.
They're reining in their oligarchs.
Their military is capable of fighting wars. Ours is just a big procurement office for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and General Dynamics and Northrop-Grumman.
America is a sick nation, and every single one of my posts is about how AMERICA must get better.
Why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake? Don't you have ENOUGH to pay attention to besides that?
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Z: YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.
- Even with ALL CAPS No one believes you are "deeply concerned" about the US. You are more concerned with telling people what they should do - *cough* fascist *cough* - the fact that you follow that with "we've lost our way" only proves it. "Urgently?" How do you Urgently fix a global problem? You're stretching again (fck, this whole post is one big stretch).
Z: "I think Russia wants to be left alone."
- So they started an unprovoked war??
Z: "But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???"
- So all those nukes and threats?
Z: "Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?"
- But you say they aren't so why aren't you more concerned? You logic has no logic.
Z: "What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
- You're right - we're not spending money on Ukraine to fix those things.
Z: "They are truly independent."
- Funny, yanno, with them being economically dependent on their Oil&Gas.
Z: They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang..."
- Great, go hang Russia! They can recall their troops and hang together.
Z: "...and the military to defend it." funny, yanno seeing how they can't beat little ole Ukraine and were driven out of Afghanistan.
Z: "We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT."
- World's? Serious, did you have a relative killed in a US bombing raid somewhere?
Z: "They want to be a sovereign nation. That means they're willing to defend their borders and their rights."
- Sooooo just like Ukraine? OKAY, that is beyond IRONIC.
Z: "They have a balanced budget. Their currency means something. Their total debt load is far less than ours."
- They have an artificially balanced budget, an artificially pimped emergency pull the red lever "clear!" stable currency, and no kidding, with an economy the size of Italy their debt load should be less than ours.
Z: "They're reining in their oligarchs."
- Because of our sanctions
Z: "Their military is capable of fighting wars."
- and failing
Z: "America is a sick nation"
- tells you everything you need to know about what Z thinks of the US.
Z: "...and every single one of my posts is about how AMERICA must get better."
- Must? Like a threat if the US doesn't listen to you?
Z: "Why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake? Don't you have ENOUGH to pay attention to besides that?"
- And why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake????
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Nobody gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.
They care even less about that than they do abortion or January 6th.
Just go right on pretending that these statements aren't true and see where it gets you.
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Quote:Then you're deluded. What have I been posting about since I joined the board??? OUR oroblems. OUR solutions.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Z: YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.
CC: - Even with ALL CAPS No one believes you are "deeply concerned" about the US.
You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working. Rah-rah-ism just makes things worse.
Quote:Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?
CC: You are more concerned with telling people what they should do -
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CC: ... the fact that you follow that with "we've lost our way" only proves it. "Urgently?" How do you Urgently fix a global problem?
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You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??
Quote:More lies?
Z: "I think Russia wants to be left alone."
CC: - So they started an unprovoked war??
Quote:It wasn't Russia that broke all of the nuclear-related treaties and placed missiles on our border.
Z: "But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???"
CC:- So all those nukes and threats?
Was it?
Quote:WHEN Russia becomes a security threat TO US, THEN I'll be concerned. There are three things we SHOUKD be doing right now:
Z: "Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?"
CC: - But you say they aren't so why aren't you more concerned? You logic has no logic.
Renegotiate nuclear treaties. "Trust but verify" was a formula that worked well.
Stop trying to destabilize Russia.
Revamp our military to be able to fight wars, not waste money.
Harden our cyber and infrastructure against cyber attack..
Quote:Except we're not fixing them, instead we're spending billions on Ukraine when we should be spending that money here.
Z: "What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
CC: - You're right - we're not spending money on Ukraine to fix those things.
Quote:Except they're not. "Sanctions against Russia hasn't hurt Russia as much as it hurt the west. /snicker
Z: "They are truly independent."
CC: - Funny, yanno, with them being economically dependent on their Oil&Gas.
Quote:And I'm sure rheybwill... once they've cleared their borders of immediate threats.
Z: They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang..."
CC: - Great, go hang Russia! They can recall their troops ...
Quote:You're as delusional as SECOND.
Z: "...and the military to defend it."
CC: funny, yanno seeing how they can't beat little ole Ukraine and were driven out of Afghanistan.
Quote:Yes.
Z: "We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT."
CC: - World's?
Name me a region (aside from Antarctica) where we don't have troops, or that the CIA isn't trying to destabilize.
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First 3, no time or interest in the rest because you are clearly bat shit on top of bat shit crazy:
Z: "You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working."
- you're posting in this thread is not working.
Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
- Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?
Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
- you said fix problems "urgently" not me. Take whatever you're on, double the prescription even.
Otherwise, great start.
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More record high inflation just announced.
The announcement that we're in a recession incoming.
Nobody gives a fuck about Ukraine.
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Quote:Oh, yeah, because CLEARLY everything is peachy-keen in the USA, and we have NO PROBLEMS whatsoever!
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
First 3, no time or interest in the rest because you are clearly bat shit on top of bat shit crazy:
Quote:Hey, all I'm trying to do is discuss things. You OTOH are here with an agenda - to propagandize, bully, dismiss, and lie.
Z: "You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working."
CC: - you're posting in this thread is not working.
Quote:I didn't see YOU object when "your side" behaves like a "fascist". And, no, I don't behave like that. So, what's your point? Aside from name-calling?
Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
CC: - Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?
Quote:You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.
Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
CC: - you said fix problems "urgently" not me. Take whatever you're on, double the prescription even.
I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?
That's pathetic.
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Quote:Signym, the kind of Americans that express your opinions are found all over Texas and they find reasons to defend Trump and attack Biden. I've got a brother-in-law married to my older sister who could match Signym word for word about the problems of America. On the other hand, my sister has no problems, never talks politics to her husband, worked until she was 70 years old as a teacher in the Houston Independent School District, and is a self-made multi-millionaire.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.
I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?
That's pathetic.
How about that brother-in-law and his ideas that Signym also shares? Besides spouting his Trumpish diagnosis of America's problems, he does nothing. At 71 years old, he hasn't worked in 25 years because of his stupid motor mouth. Nobody should listen to his ideas about America, but there are millions of Americans who spout the same nonsense as he and Signym do. He had a younger brother who was the same kind of political beast: same ideas inhabiting his brain, but he didn't have a wife, like my sister. It did not end well for that younger brother. He died at 50 after he ruined himself with stupid ideas about how to run a restaurant, how to invest on the stock market, how to . . . too irritating to list his many and varied personal failures to understand the country he lived in. That guy was exactly like every other Trump defender I know. He ruined himself with stupidity, dishonesty and his lack of self-control and he blamed Democrats, not himself, for his ruin.
Back to Ukraine. Putin has a head stuffed full of nonsense and a personal life that is just as screwed up. Signym, go look at how Putin got wealthy. Look at Putin's marriage. Look at his illegitimate children. Then look at Putin's ideas for how to govern Russia. It is easy to know that Putin's ideas are wrong by comparing Russia to Japan. Russia has not prospered because of Putin's extraordinarily bad ideas. Look at the numbers, Signym. Putin is a failure and his plans for Russia have been revealed as ridiculous. His plans for Ukraine? The plans will kill many Russians and gain very little compared to what Putin spent on his war.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-petersburg-putin-bureaucrat-kgb-early-d
ays-freidzon/27740465.html
Has Vladimir Putin Always Been Corrupt? And Does it Matter?
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/has-vladimir-putin-always-bee
n-corrupt-and-does-it-matter
Country comparison Japan/Russia (Both countries had a hellish WWII experience but only one is still reliving WWII every day, year after year. Russia is reenacting WWII in Ukraine. Old tactics recycled.)
https://www.worlddata.info/country-comparison.php?country1=JPN&cou
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, yeah, because CLEARLY everything is peachy-keen in the USA, and we have NO PROBLEMS whatsoever!
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
First 3, no time or interest in the rest because you are clearly bat shit on top of bat shit crazy:Quote:Hey, all I'm trying to do is discuss things. You OTOH are here with an agenda - to propagandize, bully, dismiss, and lie.
Z: "You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working."
CC: - you're posting in this thread is not working.Quote:I didn't see YOU object when "your side" behaves like a "fascist". And, no, I don't behave like that. So, what's your point? Aside from name-calling?
Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
CC: - Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?Quote:You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.
Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
CC: - you said fix problems "urgently" not me. Take whatever you're on, double the prescription even.
I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?
That's pathetic.
Karen thinks she is the only one who can fix the world's problems. And do it on this forum. Now that's pathetic.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, yeah, because CLEARLY everything is peachy-keen in the USA, and we have NO PROBLEMS whatsoever!
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
First 3, no time or interest in the rest because you are clearly bat shit on top of bat shit crazy:Quote:Hey, all I'm trying to do is discuss things. You OTOH are here with an agenda - to propagandize, bully, dismiss, and lie.
Z: "You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working."
CC: - you're posting in this thread is not working.Quote:I didn't see YOU object when "your side" behaves like a "fascist". And, no, I don't behave like that. So, what's your point? Aside from name-calling?
Z: "Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?"
CC: - Hey granny, I've never told anyone anything about "pronouns, they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" - so wtf? Fcking crazy much?Quote:You haven't addressed a single point because you can't.
Z: "You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??"
CC: - you said fix problems "urgently" not me. Take whatever you're on, double the prescription even.
I would understand if you disagreed with me, and told me WHY you disagreed with me. Maybe you would propose an alternate arguement, or have a different list of problems, or a different set of solutions. But all you can manage is name-calling?
That's pathetic.
Karen thinks she is the only one who can fix the world's problems. And do it on this forum. Now that's pathetic.
CAPON is still reading stupid. HE'S the one obssessed with solving the world's problems. That idea is stuck in his brain like a cancer. Meanwhile, he and SECOND are incapable of even discussing America's problems, bcause "America" is a concept they're trying to eliminate.
Best not talk about it, then.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
HE'S the one obssessed with solving the world's problems. That idea is stuck in his brain like a cancer.
Name any other "world's problems" I'm obssessed with trying to solve. I post about Trump (less so now) and Putin. 2 of the most powerful and consequential and certainly most dangerous human beings of the last 50 years.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, he and SECOND are incapable of even discussing America's problems, bcause "America" is a concept they're trying to eliminate.
No, it's "bcause" I am literally not trying to solve the world's problems.
Meanwhile, Karen:
"Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?
What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
So you aren't trying to solve the world's problems? But you post that?
With her contradicting herself so frequently, the only conclusion is Ziggy's main purpose to post here is to agitate and foment disruption. Or be a non stop a-hole.
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If Democrats were 1/10th as concerned with the problems Americans face in 2022 as they were Ukranians, we wouldn't be seeing record inflation, violent crime and illegal immigration.
But here we are.
At least until November, when the Democrat party dies.
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Quote:So, you and the Trumptards have political prisons planned, 6ix? Putin did the same, imprisoning millions of ordinary Ukrainians: The United States has called on Russia to immediately stop its systematic “filtration” and forced deportation of millions of Ukrainians in territories under Moscow’s control and to allow outside observers access to camps through which they pass.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Democrats were 1/10th as concerned with the problems Americans face in 2022 as they were Ukranians, we wouldn't be seeing record inflation, violent crime and illegal immigration.
But here we are.
At least until November, when the Democrat party dies.
“The unlawful transfer and deportation of protected persons is a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention on the protection of civilians and is a war crime,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement Wednesday, yesterday.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/13/us-russia-filtrationcamps-dep
ortation-ukrainians-00045581
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Ukraine. Russia. Global climate change. Human/civil rights (but only if it applies to nations you don't like, like Russia. Not about our friends, like Israel). Abortion. Covid.
SIGNYM:
HE'S the one obssessed with solving the world's problems. That idea is stuck in his brain like a cancer.
CC: Name any other "world's problems" I'm obsessed with trying to solve.
Quote:Dood, are you posting drunk or just reading stupid?
CC: I post about Trump (less so now) and Putin. 2 of the most powerful and consequential and certainly most dangerous human beings of the last 50 years.
SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, he and SECOND are incapable of even discussing America's problems, bcause "America" is a concept they're trying to eliminate.
CC: No, it's "bcause" I am literally not trying to solve the world's problems.
Meanwhile, Karen:
"Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly incompetent that it's about to implode?
What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
So you aren't trying to solve the world's problems? But you post that?
With her contradicting herself so frequently, the only conclusion is Ziggy's main purpose to post here is to agitate and foment disruption. Or be a non stop a-hole.
All of those problems... I spelled out ...
OUR border security?
Do I also have to spell out
OUR energy independence?
OUR debt load?
etc
OMFG, you're such a tool.
Meanwhile, you have not named a single region (except Antarctica) where we don't have troops or aren't trying to destabilize or control.
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At least 23 people, including children, were killed in a cruise missile attack, according to the Ukrainian authorities. They said that more than 60 needed hospital treatment and dozens more people are missing.
The president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskym called it 'an open act of terrorism'.
The attack took place in the city of Vinnytsia, south-west of the capital Kyiv and a long way from the focus of the fighting in the eastern region of Donbas.
The Russian defence ministry has consistently denied targeting civilians, despite the evidence.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.
Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.
Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.
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Quote:6ix, Putin, Signym and you call truth lies. How then can you win your bet that the Pentagon, not Putin, killed Ukrainian civilians? One way is that the Russian missiles did not evaporate on impact. The missile left jagged metal pieces identifying it as made in Russia, but when all truth is a lie, 6ix could claim the missile was stolen from Russia by the Pentagon, therefore 6ix wins his bet that it is the Pentagon, not Putin, killing civilians. Is it time for Putin to take his legal case to the War Crimes Court with the USA as the real killer, not Putin? Probably is time for Russia to turn the table on Ukraine for besmirching Putin's fine reputation.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.
Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.
Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.
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Forty-five nations pledge to coordinate evidence of war crimes in Ukraine
THE HAGUE, July 14 (Reuters) - The United States and more than 40 other countries agreed on Thursday to coordinate investigations into suspected war crimes in Ukraine, shortly after what Kyiv said was a Russian missile strike that killed civilians far from front lines.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told the international conference that Russian missiles had struck two community centres in the west of Ukraine, killing 20 people, including three children, and wounding many more.
Russia has repeatedly denied involvement in war crimes and deliberately targeting civilians since it invaded Ukraine in February. It says it launched a "special military operation" to protect Russian speakers and root out dangerous nationalists. Ukraine says Moscow is waging an unprovoked war of conquest.
"Today in the morning, Russian missiles hit our city of Vinnytsia, an ordinary, peaceful city. Cruise missiles hit two community facilities, houses were destroyed, a medical centre was destroyed, cars and trams were (set) on fire," Zelenskiy said by video link. "This is the act of Russian terror."
The Russian defence ministry did not immediately comment on the reports from Vinnytsia.
On Thursday, 45 countries at the conference in The Hague - headquarters of the International Criminal Court (ICC) - signed a political declaration to work together on investigations into war crimes in Ukraine.
Those countries included European Union states as well as Britain, the United States, Canada, Mexico and Australia.
Steps they will take include creating an umbrella group to avoid duplicating investigations, training Ukrainian prosecutors and expanding the number of forensic teams operating in Ukraine.
They also pledged 20 million euros ($20 million) to assist the ICC, as well as the prosecutor general's office in Ukraine and United Nations support efforts.
With some 23,000 war crimes investigations now open and different countries heading teams, evidence needs to be credible and organised, officials said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/west-seeks-coordinate-evidence-war-crime
s-ukraine-2022-07-14/
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6IXSTRINGJACK:
Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.
Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.
Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.
SECOND: 6ix, Putin, Signym and you call truth lies. How then can you win your bet that the Pentagon, not Putin, killed Ukrainian civilians? One way is that the Russian missiles did not evaporate on impact. The missile left jagged metal pieces identifying it as made in Russia, but when all truth is a lie, 6ix could claim the missile was stolen from Russia by the Pentagon, therefore 6ix wins his bet that it is the Pentagon, not Putin, killing civilians.
Similar things have happened in Syria, you know. In one infamous "Assad gassed his own people" episode, the field OPCW investigators looked at the condition and position of a chlorine cylinder and concluded that the cylinder had been "placed" on the bed. (bc if it really had fallen thru the ceiling it would have broken the bed). In other words, it was "staged" by people at the scene.
The technical report was rewritten by an OPCW higher-up to say the opposite. It wasn't until a whistleblower came forward a few years later that the malicious OPCW report was exposed.
And then there was another "Assad gassed his own people" episode where a rocket fin was placed specifically in the frame to implicate the Syrian government, amplified by the (in)famous Bellingcat.
Another "Assad gassed his own people" where the same children's bodies were spotted (by a sharp-eyed nun who worked in Syria) in different positions and locations to amplify the public body count.
And, hey, what about the half-dozen scenarios of the Skripal poisoning, none of which made sense (it was the doorknob! No, it was the clothing!) or could account for the when, where and how ... HOW they could have gotten so far from home before being overcome? Or even the so-called Navalny poisoning.
And what about the snipers on the Maidan?
Or even TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! in which file metadata points to files being loaded locally onto a thumb drive, not "hacked" via the internet.
You think our CIA doesn't stoop to false flags and provocations?
You think Russia would get a fair hearing in any western agency?
I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.
It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.
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Quote:Signym, you are completely full of bullshit. The Russian defence ministry has consistently denied targeting civilians, despite the evidence. The evidence:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Similar things have happened in Syria, you know. In one infamous "Assad gassed his own people" episode, the field OPCW investigators looked at the condition and position of a chlorine cylinder and concluded that the cylinder had been "placed" on the bed. (bc if it really had fallen thru the ceiling it would have broken the bed). In other words, it was "staged" by people at the scene.
The technical report was rewritten by an OPCW higher-up to say the opposite. It wasn't until a whistleblower came forward a few years later that the malicious OPCW report was exposed.
And then there was another "Assad gassed his own people" episode where a rocket fin was placed specifically in the frame to implicate the Syrian government, amplified by the (in)famous Bellingcat.
Another "Assad gassed his own people" where the same children's bodies were spotted (by a sharp-eyed nun who worked in Syria) in different positions and locations to amplify the public body count.
And, hey, what about the half-dozen scenarios of the Skripal poisoning, none of which made sense (it was the doorknob! No, it was the clothing!) or could account for the when, where and how ... HOW they could have gotten so far from home before being overcome? Or even the so-called Navalny poisoning.
And what about the snipers on the Maidan?
Or even TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! in which file metadata points to files being loaded locally onto a thumb drive, not "hacked" via the internet.
You think our CIA doesn't stoop to false flags and provocations?
You think Russia would get a fair hearing in any western agency?
I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.
It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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SIGNYM: HE'S the one obssessed with solving the world's problems.
CC: Name any other "world's problems" I'm obsessed with trying to solve.
Global climate change. - Nope
Human/civil rights like Israel. - Nope
Abortion. - Nope
Covid. - Nope. Haven't posted about Covid in ages.
>>> So, lies, stupid, and fail. Good one Karen.
Karen: "Meanwhile, you have not named a single region (except Antarctica) where we don't have troops or aren't trying to destabilize or control."
Yep - not interested. But points for Kareniskya managing to go way off topic and work in a dig on the US. Cha-China! Bonus in monthly paycheck I think!
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Ukraine Is Bringing a Big Gun to a Knife Fight
But U.S. and European multiple launch rockets alone aren’t enough to put Ukraine on the front foot for a counteroffensive.
With eight American HIMARS now in Ukrainian hands and four more expected to get into the country by the end of July, the defenders are racking up a major cost in Russian ammunition, supplies, and likely lives. Ukrainian troops knocked out 14 ammunition dumps in June, according to a tally by the BBC’s Russian service ( https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-62086287 ), many of them behind Russian lines in the Donbas, using the new weapons and another four tank-mounted rocket launchers from Britain. (More are on the way from Germany and Norway too.) The explosions have spawned a cottage industry of pro-Ukrainian memes featuring Japanese Shiba dogs in military fatigues watching the blasts, and the Ukrainian military believes that at least one Russian general has been killed in the blasts.
Russia has used cannons to batter its enemies from afar for three centuries, and officials knew that the U.S.-made precision missiles were coming for months, even sending a formal diplomatic letter to the U.S. State Department in April to try and warn off the Biden administration. There’s a reason that the Kremlin was nervous. The truck-mounted system weighs nearly 18 tons and can fire six precision-guided missiles at a time and then can quickly skedaddle, cutting into Moscow’s firepower advantage in massed artillery that is about 3-1 in the Donbas region.
Yet Russia still left itself open to a counterpunch. Early in the war, it left long, vulnerable supply convoys that were ravaged by Ukrainian sneak attacks during the Kyiv offensive. Now, they’re facing the same sort of ambush from afar, while the vaunted S-400 air defense systems Russia brought into Ukraine have been helpless against the low-altitude threat.
“It’s clear that they were not preparing to deal with this,” said Rob Lee, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who previously served in the U.S. Marine Corps. “It’s been no secret that the Ukrainians have been asking for HIMARS for a while; it was no secret that when they got HIMARS, they were coming; and it’s no secret what the capabilities of HIMARS are. What steps did Russia take to adapt? It doesn’t look like they took many steps at all.”
The U.S. Defense Department and other U.S. agencies fed HIMARS into Ukraine slowly, officials said, waiting to test Kyiv’s aptitude on the system, reflected by Germany and Britain, which handed off multiple launch rockets mounted on Bradley tank frames four at a time. But U.S. and European officials have been impressed, they said, by Ukraine’s systematic selection of targets, interdicting Russian supplies and attacking command posts in a bid to grind the Kremlin’s war effort to a near-complete halt. The goal, one Ukrainian military official said, is to destroy all Russian storage facilities on Ukrainian soil, picking off targets about five miles behind enemy lines.
“What you see is the Ukrainians … actually systematically selecting targets and then accurately hitting them, thus providing this precise method of degrading Russian capability,” a senior U.S. defense official told reporters this month. The Ukrainian military official told Foreign Policy on Tuesday that Russia has responded by pulling back command posts, but because of the Kremlin’s top-down military planning and refusal to delegate command further down the ranks, it lacks the nimbleness in its logistics to disperse military supplies as Ukrainian defenders have done.
But Ukrainian officials said the weapons are not yet enough to put them on the front foot for a counteroffensive, which Kyiv had hoped to begin mounting by August. (Western officials more conservatively hope for Ukraine to start large-scale counterattacks by next spring but bearing in mind increasing public fatigue.) For instance, Ukraine’s demand for longer-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, known as ATACMS, that can be fired one at a time from the HIMARS truck
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.
She LOVES to lie about lying. Seriously, if she's not Russian she should least apply for special status.
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.
Dood, she's trying to do a Ben Kenobi on you! "These are the voices in your head...."
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Originally posted by second:
Ukraine Is Bringing a Big Gun to a Knife Fight
But U.S. and European multiple launch rockets alone aren’t enough to put Ukraine on the front foot for a counteroffensive.
With eight American HIMARS now in Ukrainian hands and four more expected to get into the country by the end of July, the defenders are racking up a major cost in Russian ammunition, supplies, and likely lives. Ukrainian troops knocked out 14 ammunition dumps in June, according to a tally by the BBC’s Russian service ( https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-62086287 ), many of them behind Russian lines in the Donbas, using the new weapons and another four tank-mounted rocket launchers from Britain. (More are on the way from Germany and Norway too.) The explosions have spawned a cottage industry of pro-Ukrainian memes featuring Japanese Shiba dogs in military fatigues watching the blasts, and the Ukrainian military believes that at least one Russian general has been killed in the blasts.
Russia has used cannons to batter its enemies from afar for three centuries, and officials knew that the U.S.-made precision missiles were coming for months, even sending a formal diplomatic letter to the U.S. State Department in April to try and warn off the Biden administration. There’s a reason that the Kremlin was nervous. The truck-mounted system weighs nearly 18 tons and can fire six precision-guided missiles at a time and then can quickly skedaddle, cutting into Moscow’s firepower advantage in massed artillery that is about 3-1 in the Donbas region.
Yet Russia still left itself open to a counterpunch. Early in the war, it left long, vulnerable supply convoys that were ravaged by Ukrainian sneak attacks during the Kyiv offensive. Now, they’re facing the same sort of ambush from afar, while the vaunted S-400 air defense systems Russia brought into Ukraine have been helpless against the low-altitude threat.
“It’s clear that they were not preparing to deal with this,” said Rob Lee, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who previously served in the U.S. Marine Corps. “It’s been no secret that the Ukrainians have been asking for HIMARS for a while; it was no secret that when they got HIMARS, they were coming; and it’s no secret what the capabilities of HIMARS are. What steps did Russia take to adapt? It doesn’t look like they took many steps at all.”
The U.S. Defense Department and other U.S. agencies fed HIMARS into Ukraine slowly, officials said, waiting to test Kyiv’s aptitude on the system, reflected by Germany and Britain, which handed off multiple launch rockets mounted on Bradley tank frames four at a time. But U.S. and European officials have been impressed, they said, by Ukraine’s systematic selection of targets, interdicting Russian supplies and attacking command posts in a bid to grind the Kremlin’s war effort to a near-complete halt. The goal, one Ukrainian military official said, is to destroy all Russian storage facilities on Ukrainian soil, picking off targets about five miles behind enemy lines.
“What you see is the Ukrainians … actually systematically selecting targets and then accurately hitting them, thus providing this precise method of degrading Russian capability,” a senior U.S. defense official told reporters this month. The Ukrainian military official told Foreign Policy on Tuesday that Russia has responded by pulling back command posts, but because of the Kremlin’s top-down military planning and refusal to delegate command further down the ranks, it lacks the nimbleness in its logistics to disperse military supplies as Ukrainian defenders have done.
But Ukrainian officials said the weapons are not yet enough to put them on the front foot for a counteroffensive, which Kyiv had hoped to begin mounting by August. (Western officials more conservatively hope for Ukraine to start large-scale counterattacks by next spring but bearing in mind increasing public fatigue.) For instance, Ukraine’s demand for longer-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, known as ATACMS, that can be fi
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
6IXSTRINGJACK:
Five bucks says that the US did that. By proxy, of course, but it's all the same.
Got to keep those war drums banging when the people are tired of your fake war.
Otherwise Daddy Raytheon doesn't get paid and Mama Pelosi doesn't get her kickbacks.
SECOND: 6ix, Putin, Signym and you call truth lies. How then can you win your bet that the Pentagon, not Putin, killed Ukrainian civilians? One way is that the Russian missiles did not evaporate on impact. The missile left jagged metal pieces identifying it as made in Russia, but when all truth is a lie, 6ix could claim the missile was stolen from Russia by the Pentagon, therefore 6ix wins his bet that it is the Pentagon, not Putin, killing civilians.
Similar things have happened in Syria, you know. In one infamous "Assad gassed his own people" episode, the field OPCW investigators looked at the condition and position of a chlorine cylinder and concluded that the cylinder had been "placed" on the bed. (bc if it really had fallen thru the ceiling it would have broken the bed). In other words, it was "staged" by people at the scene.
The technical report was rewritten by an OPCW higher-up to say the opposite. It wasn't until a whistleblower came forward a few years later that the malicious OPCW report was exposed.
And then there was another "Assad gassed his own people" episode where a rocket fin was placed specifically in the frame to implicate the Syrian government, amplified by the (in)famous Bellingcat.
Another "Assad gassed his own people" where the same children's bodies were spotted (by a sharp-eyed nun who worked in Syria) in different positions and locations to amplify the public body count.
And, hey, what about the half-dozen scenarios of the Skripal poisoning, none of which made sense (it was the doorknob! No, it was the clothing!) or could account for the when, where and how ... HOW they could have gotten so far from home before being overcome? Or even the so-called Navalny poisoning.
And what about the snipers on the Maidan?
Or even TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! in which file metadata points to files being loaded locally onto a thumb drive, not "hacked" via the internet.
You think our CIA doesn't stoop to false flags and provocations?
You think Russia would get a fair hearing in any western agency?
I HATE LIES. And you, SECOND, are a clumsy, twisted, confused liar who doesn't know when to stop lying.
It's a bad habit you have there. It must make things really noisy inside your head, with dozens of voices all telling different stories. You should try to break bad habit; it's worse than smoking.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Yup.
You know when I was closest in my life to calling myself a Democrat?
When it was the Democrats who agreed on these types of issues with me when GWB was in office.
It's all right here in my post history.
Fuck 2020 Democrats.
Brainwashed fucking idiots and liars, the entire lot of them.
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Quote:6ix, you have always been a perfectly natural fit for the Republican Party. Vote for Trump since he gives your life meaning that it never before had! Be what you always were meant to be.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
You know when I was closest in my life to calling myself a Democrat?
When it was the Democrats who agreed on these types of issues with me when GWB was in office.
It's all right here in my post history.
Fuck 2020 Democrats.
Brainwashed fucking idiots and liars, the entire lot of them.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you have always been a perfectly natural fit for the Republican Party. Vote for Trump since he gives your life meaning that it never before had! Be what you always were meant to be.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
You know when I was closest in my life to calling myself a Democrat?
When it was the Democrats who agreed on these types of issues with me when GWB was in office.
It's all right here in my post history.
Fuck 2020 Democrats.
Brainwashed fucking idiots and liars, the entire lot of them.
I'm not a Republican. I've leaned far closer to being a Democrat than I ever have leaned Republican.
I will vote for Trump again.
But there's no need to give him any more credit for things he doesn't deserve. Voting for Trump brings no sense of meaning to my life.
Trump didn't drag me out of alcoholism. I did that on my own. No 12 step program, no group chat with "God" necessary.
I give my life purpose. And I've got plenty of good to do before I'm gone. For myself, and for the circle of people I care about.
I'm not the one of the two of us who has wrapped every fiber of his being around his political ideology.
That would be you, buddy.
Get some help.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
You know when I was closest in my life to calling myself a Democrat?
When it was the Democrats who agreed on these types of issues with me when GWB was in office.
It's all right here in my post history.
Fuck 2020 Democrats.
Brainwashed fucking idiots and liars, the entire lot of them.
SECOND: 6ix, you have always been a perfectly natural fit for the Republican Party. Vote for Trump since he gives your life meaning that it never before had! Be what you always were meant to be.
SIX: I'm not a Republican. I've leaned far closer to being a Democrat than I ever have leaned Republican.
I will vote for Trump again.
But there's no need to give him any more credit for things he doesn't deserve. Voting for Trump brings no sense of meaning to my life.
Trump didn't drag me out of alcoholism. I did that on my own. No 12 step program, no group chat with "God" necessary.
I give my life purpose. And I've got plenty of good to do before I'm gone. For myself, and for the circle of people I care about.
I'm not the one of the two of us who has wrapped every fiber of his being around his political ideology.
That would be you, buddy.
Get some help.
No kidding! There are,
/were, people here whose souls seem to wrapped around ideology. It bends their minds and warps their view of reality.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:I will never be in a room with Putin or with 6ix, so I can't know who you two really are, but I do know who you tell the world you are, and I sincerely doubt you are truthful. Tell any stories you two want about yourselves to make you feel good. The Russians are reliving those glorious days of WWII by killing Nazis in Ukraine. But from what I see happening in Ukraine, this is Russia at its worst, not best. 6ix, if you think you are doing great, well, super-duper for you, but from what I see you are not.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a Republican. I've leaned far closer to being a Democrat than I ever have leaned Republican.
I will vote for Trump again.
But there's no need to give him any more credit for things he doesn't deserve. Voting for Trump brings no sense of meaning to my life.
Trump didn't drag me out of alcoholism. I did that on my own. No 12 step program, no group chat with "God" necessary.
I give my life purpose. And I've got plenty of good to do before I'm gone. For myself, and for the circle of people I care about.
I'm not the one of the two of us who has wrapped every fiber of his being around his political ideology.
That would be you, buddy.
Get some help.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I will never be in a room with Putin or with 6ix,
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a Republican. I've leaned far closer to being a Democrat than I ever have leaned Republican.
I will vote for Trump again.
But there's no need to give him any more credit for things he doesn't deserve. Voting for Trump brings no sense of meaning to my life.
Trump didn't drag me out of alcoholism. I did that on my own. No 12 step program, no group chat with "God" necessary.
I give my life purpose. And I've got plenty of good to do before I'm gone. For myself, and for the circle of people I care about.
I'm not the one of the two of us who has wrapped every fiber of his being around his political ideology.
That would be you, buddy.
Get some help.
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One would imagine that this is very fortunate for you in either case.
Quote:
so I can't know who you two really are, but I do know who you tell the world you are, and I sincerely doubt you are truthful.
Dude... What could I possibly be lying about?
This place has basically been my online journal for the world to see if it wanted to, warts and all. And there are a LOT of warts here. So many warts...
Years worth of my sanity slipping as I nearly lost myself to my addictions. This place basically being the toilet for all of my demons, mostly I assume to spare what few friends and family members who still gave a shit about me the burden of well... Me.
You know about how I lost most of my teeth. You know that I even pulled two of them out myself with pliers I sterilized in rubbing alcohol, and how I failed miserably on a third one and my dentist did me a huge solid by staying late that night to get me in so I didn't spend all night punching holes through my walls after that went south.
Am I perfect now? Far from it. But I'm a lot better than I was, and I'm making an effort to always be better than I was before.
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Tell any stories you two want about yourselves to make you feel good. The Russians are reliving those glorious days of WWII by killing Nazis in Ukraine. But from what I see happening in Ukraine, this is Russia at its worst, not best.
You want to talk about telling stories? The only things I know about you are about how fucking awesome you are and how every thought you have is the right one, every decision you've made is the smart one, and how you've never made a single mistake in your life... all because you're a Democrat.
THIS is why nobody believes anything you say about yourself. Your persona here doesn't have a human being behind it. It is a construct. Nothing more than a mere ideal of what you think you want to be and what you wish you were.
Second is a poorly written character.
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6ix, if you think you are doing great, well, super-duper for you, but from what I see you are not.
Like I've said many, many, many times before... I have money in the bank. A paid for house. A paid for car. Zero debt. Zero interest. There's almost nothing that can break on me that I can't fix for pennies on the dollar to what a professional would charge, and I'm always learning new things because I have the time, tools and intelligence to figure these things out.
I don't know if you're doing great, good or shitty. I know nothing about the real you. Nobody here does. Second is a figment of some random online person's imagination.
Well... Not completely random. I know what your IP address was with the date on it.
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The Meaning of the Plunging Euro
July 15, 2022, 2:01 p.m. ET
euro dollar exchange rate
https://www.google.com/search?q=euro+dollar+exchange+rate
It’s a bit simplified, but not that far from the truth, to say that over the past couple of decades Europe — especially Germany, the core of the Continent’s economy — has tried to build prosperity on two pillars: cheap natural gas from Russia and, to a lesser extent, exports of manufactured goods to China.
One of these pillars is completely gone, thanks to Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
The other pillar is crumbling, as the Chinese economy stumbles, partly because of erratic policies in the face of Covid-19, and also as Chinese human rights violations make dealing with its regime increasingly toxic.
So Europe has a problem, and the weak euro may be a symptom of that problem.
Now, Europe’s economy isn’t going to sink into the abyss. We’re talking about incredibly sophisticated, competent economies that are technologically fully on the same level as America. Given time, they should be able to find a way to do without Russian gas and to reduce their reliance on Chinese markets.
But for now they’re stuck in a bad place, largely because their political leaders — especially in Germany — refused to acknowledge that the problem with autocratic regimes China and Russia isn’t just that they do evil things, it is that they aren’t trustworthy. Europe is now paying the price for that willful blindness, and the weak euro is a symptom of that price.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220715181057/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/07/15/opinion/euro-dollar-fed-ecb.html
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The War in Ukraine Is the True Culture War
With Russia trying to erase Ukraine’s national identity, the fight to preserve, and build upon, Ukraine’s artistic heritage has taken on new urgency.
For President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, there is no Ukraine as such; he maintains that Ukraine is a Soviet fiction, that the Ukrainian language is a Russian dialect, that Russians and Ukrainians are “one people.” And so since February — indeed, since 2014, when the war first began in the east of Ukraine — cultural manifestations of Ukrainian independence have been directly in the cross hairs.
Why would an art critic go into a war zone? Why should anyone care about a painting when cruise missiles are overhead? Because “this is a war about cultural identity,” said the curator Leonid Maruschak — one of so many writers, musicians and scholars who make no distinction between the survival of Ukraine’s people and land and the survival of its history and ideas. With Russia actively trying to erase Ukraine’s national identity, this country’s music, literature, movies and monuments are not recreations. They are battlefields.
“You see how many historical fake justifications there are in the Russian motivation for this war,” the philosopher Anton Drobovych, one of Ukraine’s brightest young scholars, said near his barracks on an island in the Dnipro River. “History is no less important than the army,” he said. “If I felt that it was less important, I would deal only with my anti-tank affairs.”
Mr. Drobovych described Ukraine’s culture as an explicit military asset. “It is contagious, and it spreads to the rest of the world. It seems that this truth and justice, which is violated, simply explodes in people who create art. And I think that’s a huge part of why we’re going to win this war.”
In cultural terms the war here is brutally old-fashioned. It’s a straight-up imperial war, and it’s turned contemporary Ukrainian culture into an archival enterprise — one in which preservation is everyone’s job, and new creations are rooted in history the enemy would deny. The exhibition “Crucified Ukraine,” at a museum in the shadow of Kyiv’s stainless steel Motherland Monument, includes exacting replications of three underground shelters that housed 120 Ukrainians for more than a month this winter. Film archivists have become experts in explosion risks, and librarians are digitizing Soviet-era photographs that were spirited out of Mariupol at the last minute. Heritage authorities are tracing monuments with 3-D scanners, creating a record in case they need to be rebuilt.
Lviv, an hour from the Polish border, has become a hub for displaced people and displaced culture, too. Viktoriya Sadova has been showing new arrivals to the city around the memorial museum in Lonsky Prison, which was a Polish, then a Nazi, then a Soviet detention center. (She became the museum’s acting director after the war began on Feb. 24, and its regular leader was drafted.) Visitors from the occupied cities of Mariupol and Kherson scrutinize the exhibits of Soviet repression of Ukrainian partisans, and recognize the traumas immediately. “Eighty years have gone but nothing has changed,” she said. “We still have the same occupant.”
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220715133405/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/07/15/arts/design/ukraine-war-culture-art-history.html
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House Democrats Pass Measure To Identify 'Neo-Nazis' In Military, Law Enforcement
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-democrats-pass-measure-ident
ify-neo-nazis-military-law-enforcement
But if they're in Ukraine we send them heavy weapons.
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Russia defends submarine missile attack that killed 23 civilians
Moscow claims Kalibr missiles hit Ukraine air force meeting.
Russia justified a missile attack that killed 23 civilians on the central Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia, claiming its submarine-launched missiles had targeted a meeting of Ukrainian air force commanders and representatives of Western arms suppliers.
The attack was the latest in a series of Russian attacks in recent weeks using long-range missiles on crowded buildings in cities far from the front, each killing dozens of people.
Russia’s defence ministry said on Friday that its Kalibr sea-based missiles, launched from a Russian submarine in the Black Sea, targeted the Ukrainian military.
“At the time of the strike, a meeting of the command of the Ukrainian Air Force with representatives of foreign arms suppliers was held,” the Russian defence ministry said.
“As a result of the strike, the participants of the meeting were destroyed,” the ministry said, claiming the meeting had focused on supplies of jets and weapons as well as repair of Ukraine’s aircraft.
Following an initial silence after the attacks on Vinnytsia, Russia’s Ministry of Defence said Friday that its forces had attacked an “officers’ club” in the city – in Soviet times, the city’s concert hall that was hit was considered to be an officers’ club.
Meanwhile, who actually was killed? Not who the Russians say!
Among the dead was Liza, a four-year-old girl with Down’s Syndrome, found in the debris next to her stroller. Images of her pushing the same stroller, posted by her mother on a blog less than two hours before the attack, quickly went viral.
Liza’s severely injured mother, Iryna Dmitrieva, was being kept in an information blackout at a hospital for fear that finding out about her daughter would kill her, doctors said.
“She is suffering from burns, chest injuries, abdominal injuries, liver and spleen injuries. We have stitched the organs together, the bones were crushed as if she went through a meat grinder,” Oleksandr Fomin, chief doctor at the Vinnytsia Emergency Hospital, said on Friday.
Were she told of her daughter’s death, “we would lose her,” the doctor said.
Vinnytsia’s Governor Serhiy Borzov said only 10 people among the dead had been identified so far.
“Russia deliberately hit civilians and all those responsible for the crime must be brought to account,” he said, denouncing the “barbaric behaviour” of Russian forces.
More at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/15/russia-justifies-deadly-attac
k-on-ukrainian-city-of-vinnytsia
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Quote:You forgot to mention that the amendment passed in a 218–208 vote where it faced unilateral opposition from Republicans. Per the Republicans, there are no, none, not one Neo-Nazis in the military or police, but it just so happens that there are many Neo-Nazis in the military and police.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
House Democrats Pass Measure To Identify 'Neo-Nazis' In Military, Law Enforcement
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-democrats-pass-measure-ident
ify-neo-nazis-military-law-enforcement
But if they're in Ukraine we send them heavy weapons.
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-vote-nazi-white-supremacists-military-pol
ice-1724545
In Ukraine, it is Putin (and his people) saying there are Neo-Nazis, but it just so happens that Putin is making up stories to connect the Great Patriotic War against Germany to Putin's war against Ukraine. But there are Neo-Nazis! Except they work for Putin: Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine?
https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.ht
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I think this is Putin's idea of a sick joke. Such a funny man Putin is.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
House Democrats Pass Measure To Identify 'Neo-Nazis' In Military, Law Enforcement
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-democrats-pass-measure-ident
ify-neo-nazis-military-law-enforcement
But if they're in Ukraine we send them heavy weapons.
Sounds about right in 2022.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You forgot to mention that the amendment passed in a 218–208 vote where it faced unilateral opposition from Republicans. Per the Republicans, there are no, none, not one Neo-Nazis in the military or police, but it just so happens that there are many Neo-Nazis in the military and police.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
House Democrats Pass Measure To Identify 'Neo-Nazis' In Military, Law Enforcement
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-democrats-pass-measure-ident
ify-neo-nazis-military-law-enforcement
But if they're in Ukraine we send them heavy weapons.
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-vote-nazi-white-supremacists-military-pol
ice-1724545
In Ukraine, it is Putin (and his people) saying there are Neo-Nazis, but it just so happens that Putin is making up stories [about Nazis in Ukraine] to connect the Great Patriotic War against Germany to Putin's war against Ukraine. But there are Neo-Nazis! Except they work for Putin: Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine?
https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.ht
ml
I think this is Putin's idea of a sick joke. Such a funny man Putin is.
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Stop lying SECOND.
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Quote:Signym, you have a sense of humor! Congratulations! I read something very funny that might make you laugh:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop lying SECOND.
The dehumanization of the Ukrainians was completed in early April, when Novosti, a state-run website, published an article arguing that the “deNazification” of Ukraine would require the “liquidation” of the Ukrainian leadership, and even the erasure of the very name of Ukraine, because to be Ukrainian was to be a Nazi: “Ukrainianism is an artificial anti-Russian construct, which does not have any civilizational content of its own, and is a subordinate element of a foreign and alien civilization.” The existential threat was made clear on the eve of the war, when Putin reprised a decade’s worth of propaganda about the perfidious West, using language familiar to Russians: “They sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature.”
That is from “THEY’RE NOT HUMAN BEINGS”
Ukraine and the words that lead to mass murder BY ANNE APPLEBAUM
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/06/ukraine-mass-murd
er-hate-speech-soviet/629629/
or
https://web.archive.org/web/20220701014138/https://www.theatlantic.com
/magazine/archive/2022/06/ukraine-mass-murder-hate-speech-soviet/629629/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you have a sense of humor! Congratulations! I read something very funny that might make you laugh:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop lying SECOND.
The dehumanization of the Ukrainians was completed in early April, when Novosti, a state-run website, published an article arguing that the “deNazification” of Ukraine would require the “liquidation” of the Ukrainian leadership, and even the erasure of the very name of Ukraine, because to be Ukrainian was to be a Nazi: “Ukrainianism is an artificial anti-Russian construct, which does not have any civilizational content of its own, and is a subordinate element of a foreign and alien civilization.” The existential threat was made clear on the eve of the war, when Putin reprised a decade’s worth of propaganda about the perfidious West, using language familiar to Russians: “They sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature.”
That is from “THEY’RE NOT HUMAN BEINGS”
Ukraine and the words that lead to mass murder BY ANNE APPLEBAUM
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/06/ukraine-mass-murd
er-hate-speech-soviet/629629/
or
https://web.archive.org/web/20220701014138/https://www.theatlantic.com
/magazine/archive/2022/06/ukraine-mass-murder-hate-speech-soviet/629629/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Oh come off of it.
The Legacy Media had started the process of splitting this country in two and having both sides dehumanize each other since 2008 and ramped that effort up to insanity during the 2016 election... and it's only gotten worse from there.
Nobody gives one single shit about Ukraine. Not even you. You're just doing what your told because that's what your side of the Media is telling you to do. Hell even on the FOX News side of the spectrum they've got the pro-war, right-leaning dildos behaving just like you.
Wheres all your outrage for the Somali's? Where are the half-dozen threads about "America Supports Somalia" that have over 1000 posts in the RWED?
They're not here, because while you don't give a shit about them either, you don't have the Legacy Media telling you every day that you do.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh come off of it.
Nobody gives one single shit about Ukraine. Not even you. You're just doing what your told because that's what your side of the Media is telling you to do.
Naw - You’re just a lot more self absorbed than we are. The more you travel outside of you home area the smaller the world gets. That and Putin, the leader of 2nd most dangerous country on the planet, is a total immoral fcker.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wheres all your outrage for the Somali's? Where are the half-dozen threads about "America Supports Somalia" that have over 1000 posts in the RWED?
Has Putin attacked Somali? Let me know if he does and I’ll start a thread.
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Quote:The split didn't start in 2008. Before Rush Limbaugh received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Trump, Rush had been telling Republicans that Democrats are evil. My brother-in-law has all of Rush's books going 30 years back to the first one. My in-law shared those books with his younger brother. In-law and younger brother hated, absolutely hated, everything connected to Democrats. Their father hated Democrats, too, with the hellish Heat from another Sun. East Texans have hated Democrats at least since the Vietnam War, decades before Rush Limbaugh wrote his first book, because some Democrats were reminding people that American soldiers were massacring South Vietnamese civilians. It just so happens, that was a hard truth that Republicans didn't believe.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh come off of it.
The Legacy Media had started the process of splitting this country in two and having both sides dehumanize each other since 2008 and ramped that effort up to insanity during the 2016 election... and it's only gotten worse from there.
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Oh Jeez.
You, SECOND, and CAPON and THUGR.... You can continue your lying, self-deluded, dehumanizing circle jerk all by your lonesome.
I don't know when you'll be bitch- slapped by reality. Maybe never. But that's your problem, not mine.
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Quote:There is a chance that a million Russians will get killed as happened in two wars with Finland and the Siege of Leningrad, in which Finland played a major role. If little Finland can kill off a million Russians, then Ukraine might be able to kill a million, too. The Finns were extremely persistent but it took years for them to kill their first million Russians because Finland did not have a supply of ammo from the EU, UK and USA. Luckily, Ukraine has the advantage that Finland didn't. Good to have friends with ammo.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh Jeez.
You, SECOND, and CAPON and THUGR.... You can continue your lying, self-deluded, dehumanizing circle jerk all by your lonesome.
I don't know when you'll be bitch- slapped by reality. Maybe never. But that's your problem, not mine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh come off of it.
Nobody gives one single shit about Ukraine. Not even you. You're just doing what your told because that's what your side of the Media is telling you to do.
Naw - You’re just a lot more self absorbed than we are. The more you travel outside of you home area the smaller the world gets. That and Putin, the leader of 2nd most dangerous country on the planet, is a total immoral fcker.Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wheres all your outrage for the Somali's? Where are the half-dozen threads about "America Supports Somalia" that have over 1000 posts in the RWED?
Has Putin attacked Somali? Let me know if he does and I’ll start a thread.
You don't even know where Somalia is or what is going on there. Just like you didn't know where Ukraine was or what was going on there before earlier this year. You're a low-info useful idiot is all you are.
This has nothing to do with Putin either, other than the Legacy Media always stroking your war boner.
Go bounce on your virtue signalling, meat puppet.
Nobody gives a shit about Ukraine. Including you.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh Jeez.
You, SECOND, and CAPON and THUGR.... You can continue your lying, self-deluded, dehumanizing circle jerk all by your lonesome.
I don't know when you'll be bitch- slapped by reality. Maybe never. But that's your problem, not mine.
SECOND: There is a chance that a million Russians will get killed
You don't care about Russians, either.
Stop lying.
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Quote:At any time the Russians can leave Ukraine and go back to their good old life. The situation is not symmetrical. The Ukrainians cannot leave and go back to their good old life. Ukrainians will have to clean up after the Russians have wrecked Ukraine. The cost is about $US 750 billion to Ukrainians. So far. Who deserves more sympathy? The Russians who are wrecking Ukraine? Or the Ukrainians who will rebuild after the Russian wrecking crews leave?
Originally posted by SignyM:
You don't care about Russians, either.
Stop lying.
https://publicnewstime.com/news/economy/reconstruction-cost-to-rebuild
-ukraine-could-exceed-previous-wars/
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You don't care about Ukrainians either.
Stop lying
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Quote:The truth is that Russians are crazy: If You Punish Russia, We Might Just Nuke All of You.
Originally posted by SignyM:
You don't care about Ukrainians either.
Stop lying
Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s powerful Security Council, doubled down on comments he made in St. Petersburg last month in an unhinged tirade against the U.S. on Telegram early Wednesday. Calling proposals to prosecute Russia for war crimes “legally void,” he said any attempts to do so “potentially threaten the existence of mankind.” “The idea of punishing a country that has major nuclear potential is absurd in itself,” he wrote, before launching into a rant against the “idiot” U.S. Citing America’s history of “senseless wars,” Medvedev appeared to argue that Russia should not be held to account for slaughtering thousands of civilians in Ukraine because the U.S. military did the same in Vietnam, Syria, and Afghanistan, among other countries. “So who is it that’s planning to arrange a show trial for us?… This will not work with Russia,” he declared, before going on to direct a citation from the Book of Revelations at the U.S.: “For the great day of his wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-lackey-dmitry-medvedev-says-punish
ing-russia-is-a-threat-to-all-because-of-major-nuclear-potential
Signym, the Russians are doing a very believable imitation of insanity, don't you think? Or do you think beyond writing over and over the same old words?
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Originally posted by second:
The truth is that Russians are crazy: If You Punish Russia, We Might Just Nuke All of You.
Jesus Christ... Enough with the baseless hyperbole, psycho.
Do you know how fucking racist and paranoid you sound right now?
Turn off the news, stay off the internet for a week and go touch some grass.
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I think you, SECOND, are looking believably insane, but I don't think it's an imitation.
Well, you asked.
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Quote:I didn't ask. I'm telling you the only way the Ukraine War ends well would be the same way as Russia's two wars with Finland. Every Russian soldier inside Ukraine is a prisoner, a casualty, a corpse, or fleeing. There is only one way for that to happen:
Originally posted by SignyM:
I think you, SECOND, are looking believably insane, but I don't think it's an imitation.
Well, you asked.
Putin is already at war with Europe. There is only one way to stop him
He has weaponised food, energy and refugees, spreading economic and political pain across the continent. Sanctions don’t work, a land for peace deal would be a disaster. Only the military route remains.
The idea the Ukraine conflict could be confined to Ukraine – Nato’s politically convenient grand delusion – and that western sanctions and arms supplies would stop the Russians was always a nonsense. Now, enraged by Kyiv’s stubborn resistance and hell-bent on punishing his punishers, Putin’s aim is the immiseration of Europe.
By weaponising energy, food, refugees and information, Russia’s leader spreads the economic and political pain, creating wartime conditions for all. A long, cold, calamity-filled European winter of power shortages and turmoil looms. And like a coin-fed gas meter, the price of western leaders’ timidity and shortsightedness ticks upwards by the hour.
Russia’s destabilisation operations, social media manipulation, cyber-attacks, diplomatic double-talk, nuclear blackmail, plus its unrelenting slaughter of civilians in Ukraine, will only intensify Europe’s state of siege in the months ahead. The west’s fanciful belief it could avoid continent-wide escalation is evaporating fast.
Though not entirely due to Putin’s war, Europe now faces fundamental challenges as big or bigger than the 2008 financial crash, Brexit, or the pandemic. Yet many EU and UK politicians skulk in denial. If, as predicted, the gas stops flowing and the lights dim, it will not just be a matter of closed factories, lost jobs, and depressed markets.
Freezing pensioners, hungry children, empty supermarket shelves, unaffordable cost of living increases, devalued wages, strikes and street protests point to Sri Lanka-style meltdowns. An exaggeration? Not really. Blowback, fanned by the Putin-admiring far right, is already gathering strength in Greece and Italy, the Netherlands and Spain.
In prospect, too, is a shattering of EU solidarity as national governments compete for scarce resources. Brussels is due to publish a “winter preparedness plan” this week. But its provisions are unclear and unenforceable. The broader context is lack of an agreed, implemented EU-wide energy policy.
Despite bilateral cooperation pledges, a total Russian cut-off could pit country against country, further inflate prices, and split the anti-Moscow coalition. In such a scenario Putin would demand sanctions relief in return for resumed supplies, just as he has over blockaded Black Sea grain.
Import-dependent Germany is already taking unilateral steps, seeking alternative oil and gas suppliers. A national emergency moved closer after Moscow turned off the Nord Stream I pipeline last Monday. Many in Berlin fear (and some environmentalists hope) the shutdown – and any subsequent rationing – may become permanent.
Robert Habeck, Germany’s vice-chancellor, fretted publicly about a “political nightmare”. Bruno Le Maire, France’s finance minister, sounded similarly panicky last week. He predicted an imminent gas cut-off. Waxing Napoleonic, he urged European countries to form up in “order of battle”. But as in 1812, Russia has “General Winter”.
As if the mounting misery of millions were not daunting enough, then consider, too, the war’s knock-on impact on efforts to combat the climate and biodiversity crises. In the UK and elsewhere, net zero targets appear at increasing risk of being abandoned.
Because Europe faces “very, very strong conflict and strife” this winter over energy prices, it should make a short-term return to fossil fuels, Fran
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Quote:Signym, 6ix: Do you know I am aware of what you two are writing in other threads? You two guys are as loony as the Russians. Here are two very brief samples hinting at the vast literature on mental illness you two have written about yourselves:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The truth is that Russians are crazy: If You Punish Russia, We Might Just Nuke All of You.
Jesus Christ... Enough with the baseless hyperbole, psycho.
Do you know how fucking racist and paranoid you sound right now?
Turn off the news, stay off the internet for a week and go touch some grass.
Signym
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65173&mid=11590
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Quote:6ix
SIX has well-earned mommy issues. In fact, so do I, and MY mom wasn't bipolar.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65173&mid=11590
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Quote:If you read 6ix's 83 (83!) comments on the movie Joker before and after it premiered, 6ix makes it plain as daylight (except to himself) he felt as oppressed and downtrodden as the Joker did. Once 6ix switched to his attack mode (I give all credit to Trump for showing 6ix in 2016 what attack mode is) 6ix feels energized and completely alive, as the Joker felt once he went on a killing spree in the final acts of the movie. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&p=1
I've always dated attractive women, but except for my first girlfriend they all came from broken homes like me and had plenty of baggage like me. I can count on two fingers the number of them who actually gave a shit about anybody but themselves. But I definitely had a "type", so that's just as much my fault as it was theirs for entertaining those bad personality traits.
That first girlfriend from the solid family home was a sweetheart. I was the one who got bored of that. When you grow up in a constant state of chaos, somebody who is rational, predictable and caring somehow isn't all that appealing. I'd say that dumping her was one of the worst mistakes of my life, but that would be a lie. It was probably the nicest thing anybody ever did for her.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63299&mid=10838
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Russians being angry and killing Ukrainians because Nazis offend Russians' sensibilities is no different than the Joker being angry and killing Gotham City civilians who offend the Joker's feelings of self-importance. The Russians are as crazy as the Joker and their mentality is imitating a comic book villain.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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The West Worries Too Much About Escalation in Ukraine
NATO Can Do More Without Provoking Moscow
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ukraine/2022-07-12/west-worrie
s-too-much-about-escalation-ukraine
As the world looks on while Ukrainians fight for their lives and their freedom, many feel a burning desire to do more to support them. The problem is not a lack of forces or resources—it is fear of provoking a wider, perhaps nuclear, war with Russia. That fear is why U.S. President Joe Biden and other NATO leaders have consistently made clear that they will not intervene directly in the conflict, instead limiting their help to weapons, money, intelligence, and sanctions. As devastating as events in Ukraine are today, a nuclear war with Russia could kill more people than Ukraine’s entire population of roughly 44 million.
NATO leaders understand that they must walk this fine line between aiding Ukraine and risking war with Russia, but they have no theory of how to do it. The German and French governments hem and haw about whether to provide Ukraine with tanks. When Poland proposed a plan to transfer MiG-29 fighter aircraft to Ukraine, the United States refused. U.S. Defense Department spokesperson John Kirby warned that it “raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance” and therefore was not “tenable.” Yet the United States was already shipping Javelin antitank missiles and Stinger surface-to-air missiles. Soon after, it began sending other weapons, including M777 howitzers and now HIMARS multiple rocket launchers. What is the difference? Those weapons do more to strengthen Ukraine’s combat power than MiG-29s, so the theory cannot be that Russia reacts more strongly to policies that do more harm to its interests. Why, then, missiles and artillery but not planes? The answer is that there is no answer. It is simply arbitrary.
NATO needs a strategy predicated on a theory of what it can do to aid Ukraine without widening the war to a direct conflict between it and Russia. Lessons from past crises point to the principles that should guide such a strategy. History shows that NATO would recklessly risk war only by crossing two Russian redlines: openly firing on Russian forces or deploying organized combat units under NATO-member flags into Ukraine. As long as NATO stops short of unmistakably crossing those lines, it can do more to help Ukraine at an acceptable risk of war.
Arms transfers and sanctions are both wholly consistent with this approach, so it is tempting to conclude that NATO members are doing all they can. They are not. They should build on current policies by dispensing with arbitrary limits on the types of conventional weapons they are providing Ukraine and expanding sanctions. Moreover, there is a third way to support Ukraine besides arms and sanctions—one that NATO is neglecting. It is time for NATO to encourage, organize, and equip its soldiers to volunteer to fight for Ukraine.
WALKING THE LINE
NATO should pursue a strategy of going as far as possible in Ukraine without plainly crossing Russia’s redlines—meaning refusing to openly attack Russian forces or send combat units into the country. The United States prevailed in the gravest crises of the Cold War by using this approach.
The Cold War’s first major showdown—the Berlin blockade of 1948–49—evinced this strategy. Although easily able to overwhelm U.S., British, and French troops in what would become West Berlin—an enclave deep inside Soviet-occupied East Germany—Soviet leader Josef Stalin did not seize the territory. To do so would have meant attacking those troops and thus provoking war. Instead, he imposed a blockade that choked off food and coal for two million Berliners. When Soviet troops blocked the roads and railways, Western leaders declined to attack them to reopen supply corridors. They resorted to an airlift instead, betting that Stalin would not attack defenseless transport aircraft. In the end, the vaunted Berlin airlift succeeded.
More than a decade later, American leaders decided to impose a bl
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Originally posted by second:
If you read 6ix's 83 (83!) comments on the movie Joker before and after it premiered, 6ix makes it plain as daylight (except to himself) he felt as oppressed and downtrodden as the Joker did. Once 6ix switched to his attack mode (I give all credit to Trump for showing 6ix in 2016 what attack mode is) 6ix feels energized and completely alive, as the Joker felt once he went on a killing spree in the final acts of the movie.
Most of those comments after the first couple were tables comparing how Joker with its 50 million dollar budget destroyed whatever Star Wars woke piece of trash with it's insane production budget.
Anybody looking at my posts there should take a look at Second's posts on Joker if you want to see something truly creepy. He really, really, really seemed to focus on the part where Arthur smothered his mom with a pillow.
Whatever you say, Norman Bates.
Meanwhile, here's a list of Second's greatest hits on this website under both of his aliases:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Repost of thread to HAKEN created on June 17, 2022 and updated on June 22nd, 2022.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116
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The remaining members of Fireflyfans.net should not be subjected to Second's behavior, his calls for violence, his racism and his wishing death on others he doesn't agree with.
I'm asking Haken now to finally remove Second from these boards. Ever since his other handle Reaverfan was banned from Fireflyfans.net, his Second handle has devolved into little more than a violence fantasy factory.
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July 30, 2019: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/i73bY
October 31st, 2020: Death threat against Amy Coney Barrett
https://archive.ph/6nwD9
October 31st, 2020: Second death threat that day against Amy Coney Barrett
https://archive.ph/6nwD9
September 2nd, 2021: Death threat against the Supreme Court Justices
https://archive.ph/IJw76
April 28th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/NFbSt
March 30th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/L0Zeq
March 30th, 2022: Second death threat that day against President Trump
https://archive.ph/nVqVC
May 2nd, 2022: Second throws around the N word like he owns it
https://archive.ph/B8ocv
May 25th, 2022: Death threat against the Supreme Court
https://archive.ph/OaT3U
June 4th, 2022: Second wishes death on me (Under his Second handle, not his Reaverfan one)
https://archive.ph/J0RY6
June 5th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/rIr6u
June 22nd, 2022: Second threatens to burn my house down in an Italian Mafia style "It would be a shame if your house burned down" kind of way.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220622232014/http://fireflyfans.net/mthr
ead.aspx?bid=18&tid=64666&p=7
July 13, 2022: Death threat against President Trump.
https://archive.ph/rX2bm
July 14th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/pWizO
I decided at this time not to add the stuff that Kiki has archived on her own through this site, because there are no time stamps here and unless there is a way to find posts and date/time stamps on the administrative side to verify them, they were not archived offsite like the preceding posts were. Though I do know that her archival were things he said in the past, it is too easy to fake somebody else's posts by these means without an outside archival website and I will not enter them here unless asked for them.
At this point I ask Haken either to give a stern talking to at Second about his behavior, or just outright ban him from the site entirely. There is a line, and he has repeatedly crossed it under his Second handle nearly as frequently as he did under his unabashedly toxic Reav
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Quote:6ix, you are in attack mode. Here is one of my comments on Joker, that mentions Trump. It could have mentioned Putin, a crook who didn't pay his taxes on the bribes he took while Deputy Mayor of St. Petersburg. Putin's crooked ways got bigger and now the crook is stealing the country of Ukraine:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
If you read 6ix's 83 (83!) comments on the movie Joker before and after it premiered, 6ix makes it plain as daylight (except to himself) he felt as oppressed and downtrodden as the Joker did. Once 6ix switched to his attack mode (I give all credit to Trump for showing 6ix in 2016 what attack mode is) 6ix feels energized and completely alive, as the Joker felt once he went on a killing spree in the final acts of the movie.
Most of those comments after the first couple were tables comparing how Joker with its 50 million dollar budget destroyed whatever Star Wars woke piece of trash with it's insane production budget.
Anybody looking at my posts there should take a look at Second's posts on Joker if you want to see something truly creepy. He really, really, really seemed to focus on the part where Arthur smothered his mom with a pillow.
Whatever you say, Norman Bates.
Quote:http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10947Quote:That is exactly like saying Trump's history of acrimonious divorces, multiple bankruptcies and of being sued and losing has no connection to the chaos of how he conducts himself as President. Trump is the same man before and after election. Joker is the same character before and after this movie. You might not read about Joker, but the writer/director knows Joker from the comics. Those 3 recent Joker comics are perfectly consistent with the Joker movie.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don’t read comics. I own a set of Firefly comics, but haven’t followed DC or Marvel or any other comics in 40+ years.
Interjecting the comics to this movie discussion makes no point.
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There are many stories about how younger Putin was a crook:
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+deputy+mayor+st.+petersburg
A sample of titles:
Has Vladimir Putin Always Been Corrupt? And Does it Matter?
Former Petersburg Entrepreneur Recalls A 'Driven' Putin With His Hand Out
Stealing Russia Blind
Putin’s Kleptocracy: Who Owns Russia?
Putin's past history (as is true in the case of Trump) explains why Putin now governs Russia violently and dishonestly and why Putin would attempt to steal Ukraine from its people. Putin's theft is not going as smoothly as expected, considering how mismatched Ukraine/Russia are. But Stalin's failed theft of all Finland didn't go smoothly, either, especially considering the mismatch in military size between Finland and Russia.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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VINNYTSIA, Ukraine (AP) — Beautiful and serene in a crown of white flowers, 4-year-old Liza who was killed by a Russian missile strike, was buried Sunday in central Ukraine as an Orthodox priest burst into tears and told weeping relatives that “evil cannot win.”
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-55b856fc5d338fb2b97d5b639d82
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Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrey Rudenko got upset when Russia was called evil. "We're not evil, you're evil," was his reply.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:You did.
Originally posted by second:Quote:I didn't ask.
Originally posted by SignyM:
I think you, SECOND, are looking believably insane, but I don't think it's an imitation.
Well, you asked.
Stop lying.
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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are in attack mode.
Attack mode?
I'm not even in defense mode.
Things couldn't be going better in the world than they are right now. Democrats will be a memory when the dust settles. I'm the one that gets to sit back and throw out I Told You Sos all day.
Meanwhile, you're a mental midget. No more of a nuisance than a gnat.
I don't even bother buying traps for gnats. They don't have long enough life expediencies to bother.
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Russia Threatens 'Doomsday' if Ukraine Attacks Crimea
Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of Russia's defense council, made his threat in a statement to Russian state media TASS.
"Some ecstatic, bloody clowns, who pop up there with some statements now and then, are trying to threaten us, I mean attacks on Crimea and so on," Medvedev told a group of WWII veterans in Volgograd.
"Should anything of the kind happen, they will be faced with a doomsday, very quick and tough, immediately. There will be no avoiding it," Medvedev continued.
Ukraine's response: "'A little more, and I'll show you all!' Show what? Kill another child?"
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threatens-doomsday-if-ukraine-attacks-
crimea-russian-media-1725383
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Russia Failing to Protect Tanks Against U.S. Weapons, Causing Mass Losses
7/18/22 AT 1:10 PM EDT
In total, Russia is estimated to have more than 2,800 tanks in military units with another 10,000 in storage, according to an April report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Many of these tanks are considered to be technologically advanced—specifically the T-90M tank, considered to be the strongest in Putin's possession. These tanks include a multi-channel sighting system, a turret with more armor plating and a main gun more powerful than those in many other tanks.
Despite its strength, some of Russia's T-90M tanks have been destroyed amid the conflict with Ukraine. The failure to strategically use the stronger tanks has weakened the military, causing mass losses for its other tanks, according to the Times.
Ukraine's Ministry of Defense estimates that Russia has lost 1,687 tanks since the war began in February, among other significant losses to Russian aircraft, artillery systems and other vehicles.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/russia-tanks-destroyed-mass-losses-ukraine-wa
r-us-weapons-1725661
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Nobody cares.
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Quote:People most certainly do care, punk. It's the emotionally stunted, defective and insane who doesn't.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
What is the Russian word for Smithereens? – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084698/
Ramzan Kadyrov, the Chechen leader and top ally of Vladimir Putin, said Sunday that he is waiting on an order from the Russian president to blast Western countries to "smithereens."
Kadyrov made the declaration in a Telegram post that announced the completion of a new Chechen regiment called "North-Akhmat," which was one of four that the Chechen leader announced was being formed last month to help replenish Russia's troops during its ongoing war with Ukraine. He wrote that Russia is the only country in the world to "speak out against the infernal abomination that the West spreads," and that he is grateful that Putin "made such a correct decision and gave us the opportunity to take part in this sacred struggle against Satanism."
"We are ready to go further on orders, to easily take Kyiv and the NATO countries," the post read. "Our units, hardened in real battles, will not be able to resist any army in the world. We have experience, arsenal, faith, patriotism, idea and TRUTH! The West does not yet understand how strong WE are!"
Kadyrov added that with one order from Putin, "we are ready to smash the false-democratic, pseudo-liberal and military-barbaric campaign of Western states, which are corrupting the world community in an attempt to subdue the entire globe under them, to smithereens."
Russian officials have repeatedly threatened Western countries, particularly those in NATO, against direct interference in the war in Ukraine. Putin has even warned of "retaliatory strikes" against countries that "create a strategic threat to Russia," leading to fears that the conflict could spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Experts told Newsweek in May that NATO has already crossed the line that Putin has said would justify such an attack.
The Chechen leader has publicly stated Chechnya's readiness for a large-scale military mobilization against Ukraine and other Western countries for months as the Russia-Ukraine war has raged on.
In May, Kadyrov said in a video that after Ukraine, he is ready to attack NATO member Poland, and told the European country that it "better take back" the weapons it provided to Ukraine to aid it in its counteroffensive.
"After Ukraine, if we're given the command, in six seconds we'll show you what we're capable of," Kadyrov said.
Meanwhile in June, he shared an ominous video showing a mass gathering of his armed forces. The Chechen leader gave a speech before the troops about ensuring "peace" in the world, saying that "Western European states have made all possible attempts to destroy our state."
Earlier this month, Kadyrov published another lengthy Telegram post that pleaded for permission for his forces to join the war in Ukraine to "get even with our blood enemies."
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-waiting-order-smash-west-smitheree
ns-1725592
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Originally posted by second:Quote:People most certainly do care, punk.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
No they don't.
November is coming soon. I Told You So's on standby.
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Russia Says It's Losing because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs
That claim was made Monday by two Russian lawmakers heading up a commission to investigate “biolaboratories” in Ukraine, Kommersant reported.
Konstantin Kosachev, the deputy speaker of Russia’s Federation Council, and Irina Yarovaya, deputy chair of the State Duma, touted what they described as bombshell findings from the “investigation.”
Testing of Ukrainian POWs’ blood, they claimed, uncovered “a range of diseases” that suggest they were secretly experimented on “for military purposes.”
“And we see: the cruelty and barbarity with which the military personnel of Ukraine behave, the crimes that they commit against the civilian population, those monstrous crimes that they commit against prisoners of war, confirm that this system for the control and creation of a cruel murder machine was implemented under the management of the United States,” Yarovaya was quoted telling reporters.
“And those performance enhancing drugs that they are still given in order to completely neutralize the last traces of human consciousness and turn them into the most cruel and deadly monsters also confirm this,” she claimed.
Bizarrely, she also claimed that the presence of Hepatitis A antibodies in Ukrainian prisoners’ blood was proof of an American biolabs conspiracy, since a former health minister for Ukraine was a dual Ukrainian-American citizen who had worked to acquire drugs for the treatment of hepatitis in the country.
“It is quite possible that this was about testing these drugs on military personnel,” Yarovaya said.
The claims appeared to be a new take on the biolabs conspiracy theory that Russia’s Defense Ministry has routinely rolled out to try and justify the war.
So much more at https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-says-its-losing-because-ukraine-h
as-experimental-mutant-troops-created-in-secret-biolabss
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Nobody who matters gives one single shit.
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Quote:Why do you write the same thing hundreds of times? If you want to be amused, here are Russians on TV talking about de-worming Ukraine like it was a cat: https://imgur.com/gallery/xH176iC
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody who matters gives one single shit.
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The Russian TV joke explained: To the veterinarian it is a special operation. To the worms it is genocide. Nobody laughed, so at least the Russians have some small understanding of what they are saying.
The worms should follow the veterinarians home and kill them, kill them all, in their beds.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Why do you write the same thing hundreds of times?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody who matters gives one single shit.
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Because it's true.
You'll see soon enough.
Tick Tock
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A-10 Warthog planes might be in Ukraine's future
The subject came up at a conference from Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall and Air Force Gen. Charles Q. Brown.
Deborah Haynes @haynesdeborah
The US would be open to discuss giving its A-10 “Warthog” ground attack aircraft to Ukraine, the US Secretary of the @usairforce has indicated. Frank Kendall listed the ageing warplanes as among those the Air Force will be ditching to focus more $$ on modern programmes.
9:53 PM • 20 Jul 22 • Twitter Web App
More at https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/7/20/2111648/-A-10-Warthog-plane
s-might-be-in-Ukraine-s-future
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We don't need to be giving any more free shit to the dumb people of Ukraine.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We don't need to be giving any more free shit to the dumb people of Ukraine.
The A-10 was designed to kill Russians, but never got used for what it was designed. Ukraine has Russians a plenty to kill. Why not test if the A-10 can do what it was designed to do and finally get some value out of those planes which were built only because the Senators for Maryland wanted the A-10s built by Fairchild in Hagerstown, Maryland?
In its most recent budget request for the 2023 Fiscal Year, the Air Force asked for authority to retire 21 Warthogs during that period. . . . "A parenthetical thought. Why don't we give those A-10s to Ukraine?"
Sherman Fairchild, who owned the builder of the A-10, inherited his father's IBM stock in 1924, becoming IBM's largest individual stockholder until his death in 1971. History doesn't say it, but I bet Fairchild talked some excruciatingly stupid, yet highly articulate, Congressmen into buying the A-10. It's about time the A-10 got used for something other than making a rich man richer, but rather for what it was designed, e.g. killing Russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Fairchild
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Russia conducted illegal ‘double tap’ strikes
In such attacks, Russia shell or launch an airstrike targeting a spot where paramedics and civilians are gathered to help the victims of an initial strike.
Russia has deployed this tactic, honed in Syria, in its war in Ukraine, according to reports from international investigators and journalists on the ground. In a March attack in Kharkiv, a Russian missile allegedly hit a regional administration building. A second strike occurred a few minutes later, after rescuers had arrived, according to an April report by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
Five civilians were killed in another double-tap strike in Kharkiv the following month, as a Red Cross team tried to administer first aid, the Australian Broadcast Corporation reported.
“Syria was kind of the testing ground for this approach,” Nessma Bashi said. “What Ukraine has shown is that double taps are being conducted on a regular basis.”
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has breathed new life into the field of international law and efforts to investigate and prosecute war crimes.
In April, Russia tapped Gen. Alexander Dvornikov, a veteran of Moscow’s military operations in Syria, to oversee its operations in Ukraine.
“I would hope this would pull more attention to the importance of accountability efforts across the board,” Bashi said. “Certainly we know there are specific members of the Russian military who were involved in Syria and are now key players in Ukraine. If it is the case that those people are held accountable for crimes they commit in Ukraine, we will consider that a win for Syrians.”
More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-and-syria-conducted-dozens
-of-illegal-double-tap-strikes-report-says/ar-AAZPvFC
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Quote:Oh, you mean "objective" investigators like OSCE, OPCW, HRW, Bellingcat, and "White Helmets"?
Originally posted by second:
Russia conducted illegal ‘double tap’ strikes
In such attacks, Russia shell or launch an airstrike targeting a spot where paramedics and civilians are gathered to help the victims of an initial strike.
Russia has deployed this tactic, honed in Syria, in its war in Ukraine, according to reports from international investigators and journalists..
You mean, like them?
/snicker
Stop spamming the board with lies.
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Fuck Ukraine.
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Quote:I feel sorry for Ukrainians caught up in this madness.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
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Warhawks, fascists, and oligarchs?
Not so much.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:I feel sorry for Ukrainians caught up in this madness.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
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Warhawks, fascists, and oligarchs?
Not so much.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
I don't feel any more sorry for Ukrainians than I do Somalians, or any other country our military war machine has exploited without ever putting it to a vote.
Neither does Second or Ted or Cap'n, no matter how much they pretend to give a shit about this one because their Legacy Media Masters tell them to.
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Here's Ted:
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Quote:Oh, I agree. But SECOND, THUGR, and CAPON promote that "Ukrainians" (if they follow our anti-Russian narrative) are a Special Class of people. The rest are just ordinary schmucks not worth caring about.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:I feel sorry for Ukrainians caught up in this madness.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
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Warhawks, fascists, and oligarchs?
Not so much.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
I don't feel any more sorry for Ukrainians than I do Somalians, or any other country our military war machine has exploited without ever putting it to a vote.
Neither does Second or Ted or Cap'n, no matter how much they pretend to give a shit about this one because their Legacy Media Masters tell them to.
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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
They're so stupid they can't even get their empty virtue signaling right.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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