Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:“I hate them,” Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, wrote on social media in early June. “They are bastards and scum,” he went on. “As long as I live, I will do everything to make them disappear.”
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Oh, I agree. But SECOND, THUGR, and CAPON promote that "Ukrainians" (if they follow our anti-Russian narrative) are a Special Class of people. The rest are just ordinary schmucks not worth caring about.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:I feel sorry for Ukrainians caught up in this madness.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
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Warhawks, fascists, and oligarchs?
Not so much.
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I don't feel any more sorry for Ukrainians than I do Somalians, or any other country our military war machine has exploited without ever putting it to a vote.
Neither does Second or Ted or Cap'n, no matter how much they pretend to give a shit about this one because their Legacy Media Masters tell them to.
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They're so stupid they can't even get their empty virtue signaling right.
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Luke Mogelson writes:
People in Ukraine sometimes describe the intensity of shelling in simple auditory terms. A place can be “quiet” or “loud.” As the volume increases, so do the chaos, misery, death, and fear. You cannot experience such fatal noise without instinctively grasping its purpose, which is to brutalize psychically as much as physically—to demoralize and stupefy. Nowhere on earth is louder today than the Donbas region of Eastern Ukraine, where Russia has concentrated its forces and its firepower since April, after abandoning its disastrous bid to capture Kyiv. Russian officials, far from being humbled by that ordeal, have insisted on their continued determination not only to seize Ukrainian land and resources but also to punish and terrorize Ukrainians and their supporters. “I hate them,” Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, wrote on social media in early June. “They are bastards and scum,” he went on. “As long as I live, I will do everything to make them disappear.”
When Medvedev posted this statement, I was in Lysychansk—at the time, the easternmost city still under Ukrainian control. Artillery boomed and crashed. Power lines drooped across deserted streets. Not a single shop was open. There was no electricity, gas, fuel, cellular service, or running water. As my translator and I drove through empty neighborhoods strewn with rubble, Medvedev’s desire, here at least, seemed to have been realized. Then, not long after we arrived, we encountered something unexpected: a group of people.
They were loitering outside a fire station on the main avenue downtown. Sheets of plywood covered the broken windows of the red three-story building. A banner reading “prevent, rescue, assist” hung above the entrance. A middle-aged woman with a graying pixie haircut and an incandescent smile introduced herself as Tanya. The incongruity between her circumstances and her disposition became ever more pronounced as she recounted her troubles. She worked as a cleaning lady in a house that had been bombed the previous day. “I’m about to haul some bricks,” she said, her eyes sparkling. “Tidy things up.” She’d come to the fire station in search of food. Two days earlier, a Russian air strike had obliterated a community center where city employees and local volunteers had been distributing humanitarian aid.
“Now there’s nothing here,” Tanya said.
A volley of rockets whistled overhead and slammed to earth nearby, pulverizing con
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“I hate them,” Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, wrote on social media in early June. “They are bastards and scum,” he went on. “As long as I live, I will do everything to make them disappear."
Ah, a favorite M$M technique: The Snippet. And one that SECOND likes to exploit endlessly.
"Them"?
Who (or what) "them"?
Ukrainian women and children?
Western neocons and warhawks?
Fleas?
Bad shoes?
It's not clear who Medvedev is talking about, or even if he's talking about anything living. But the media just loves them some out-of-context phrases that they can interpret endlessly, and SECOND can quote them endlessly for his propaganda war.
At least Medvedev didn't say he was willing to genocide the entire globe "down to the last 100". Now THAT would have been truly horrific.
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Quote:Sorry to tell you, but Putin threatened to nuke the world. All he really did is show he is lacking in social grace when dealing with other countries that are more prosperous than Russia -- nuclear armed countries such as France for example. In case you don't understand, France has never threatened to nuke anybody for any reason, unlike Russia which keeps saying many times a month that it will nuke anybody anywhere anytime over any disagreement.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
“I hate them,” Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, wrote on social media in early June. “They are bastards and scum,” he went on. “As long as I live, I will do everything to make them disappear."
Ah, a favorite M$M technique: The Snippet. And one that SECOND likes to exploit endlessly.
"Them"?
Who (or what) "them"?
Ukrainian women and children?
Western neocons and warhawks?
Fleas?
Bad shoes?
It's not clear who Medvedev is talking about, or even if he's talking about anything living. But the media just loves them some out-of-context phrases that they can interpret endlessly, and SECOND can quote them endlessly for his propaganda war.
At least Medvedev didn't say he was willing to genocide the entire globe "down to the last 100". Now THAT would have been truly horrific.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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In response to being caught with a totally out-of-context snippet, what does SECOND reply with?
Yep! ANOTHER out-of-context snippet!
Man, SECOND, you just don't quit.
You don't learn either, do you?
Why don't you go back like a good boy and bring here the ENTIRE CONTEXT of what Putin has said? At least make an attempt to LOOK like you're being honest, OK?
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Quote:It is NOT out of context when Putin says he will nuke the world. I would have to use google translate to see how many Russian words it takes to say "I shall nuke the world" but I'm pretty sure it qualifies as a snippet. The words Putin said before or after he threatened to nuke the world will add no context whatsoever. Putin does not know how to behave in polite company without making death threats to everyone at the party. I bet Putin doesn't get invited to many social occasions outside of Russia. Read all about Putin threatens to nuke the world at https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+threatens+to+nuke+the+world
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yep, ANOTHER out-of-context snippet!
Man, SECOND, you just don't quit.
You don't learn either, do you?
Why don't you go back like a good boy and bring here the ENTIRE CONTEXT of what Putin has said? At least make an attempt to LOOK like you're being honest, OK?
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A poll in Austria found that most vaccinated Austrians believe Russia is responsible for the war in Ukraine, while the unvaccinated mostly blame the US and NATO
8:38 AM · Jul 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1551562520174989316
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A lesson in courage from Ukraine – July 25, 2022 – The Christian Science Monitor
From left to right, Anastasia Pryhoda, age 15, Yana Stepanenko, age 11, and Kateryna lorgu, age 12, have each faced the trials of war head-on.
Nelson Mandela once said, “Courage is not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it.”
As a rock climber and war correspondent, the Monitor’s Scott Peterson knows about conquering fear. “When things get difficult,” Scott told me by phone from Kyiv, Ukraine, “it’s important to focus on the job at hand. That doesn’t leave room for fear or doubt.”
Last month, Scott met with three brave girls who were wounded in the Ukraine war. Each exhibits her own kind of resilience and courage.
Yana Stepanenko, age 11, lost both legs in an airstrike. She struggles with memories of the attack and quietly alternates between despair and hope for her future. Kateryna Iorgu, age 12, lost her mother, and her legs were injured in another Russian bombing. She’s walking now, sometimes with crutches, and resolutely rehabbing. And there’s 15-year-old Anastasia Pryhoda.
She drove dozens of carloads of wounded or older Ukrainians to safety. But her rescue missions ended abruptly in May after Russian soldiers opened fire on her car, hitting Anastasia four times.
“She was clearly aware of the dangers and risks and yet able to compartmentalize it and focus on the task at hand,” says Scott, noting that she continued driving for several kilometers while wounded.
As a journalist, Scott says he has to demonstrate courage in bursts. “But most of these girls aren’t leaving the war zone. They’re still living here. I just need to sustain my composure until I leave,” he says.
In late February, many Ukrainians were surprised and inspired by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s open defiance of Russia. His willingness to stay at significant personal risk was also central to the global outpouring of support. “It is breathtaking to witness actual courage. It’s even more breathtaking when that courage is both moral and physical,” wrote conservative American columnist David French on Feb. 27 in The Dispatch. “[Mr. Zelenskyy’s] not just speaking against evil, he’s quite literally standing against evil.”
Today it’s Ukrainians such as Anastasia who are taking a stand. She tells Scott that she intends to go to the Ukrainian military academy. “I could see her in 10 years leading a company of Ukrainian soldiers. She is a self-starter, assertive, and sharp,” says Scott.
Anastasia’s story reminds me of the Fearless Girl statue on Wall Street, hands on hips, staring down a charging bull. In Anastasia’s case, it’s a charging Russian bear. And she’s not backing down.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220725195811/https://www.csmonitor.com/C
ommentary/From-the-Editors/2022/0725/A-lesson-in-courage-from-Ukraine
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Originally posted by second:
A poll in Austria found that most vaccinated Austrians believe Russia is responsible for the war in Ukraine, while the unvaccinated mostly blame the US and NATO
8:38 AM · Jul 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1551562520174989316
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Thank you for proving everything I've been saying for 2 years, mudblood.
Good luck with your shots. At least we know you didn't have any children so you couldn't sign them up to be experimented on.
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Ukraine is not alone. Georgia vis-à-vis Russia:
Georgian president denounces Russia’s attempts to annex Georgian territories
Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili on Monday denounced a series of attempts by Russia to annex Georgian territories located in the breakaway region of Abkhazia.
The authorities of Abkhazia, pro-Russian, approved last week the transfer to the territory of the Russian Federation of an official residence and its surrounding territories in the city of Pitsunda, in the northwest of Georgia, on the shores of the Black Sea.
According to President Zourabichvili, this decision of the Abkhazian authorities constitutes "a form of annexation of Georgian territory by Russia", and she has denounced a "continuous occupation" in the region.
"I strongly condemn it and call on the international community to react strongly to this," Zourabichvili said on her profile on the social network Twitter.
Georgia and Russia had a brief war over South Ossetia and the Abkhazia region in 2008. After the conflict ended, Moscow, whose forces prevailed, recognized both regions as independent nations, although the vast majority of countries have not.
More at https://www.archyde.com/georgias-complaint-to-russia-it-accuses-it-of-
appropriation-of-territories/
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Didja ever notice how different ethnic groups have different name endings? Serbian names end in -ian or (more often) -yan. Lithuania names end in -itis, and Georgian names end in -villi.
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Quote:What is your point, Signym? Didja ever notice how the Georgian alphabet is unique in the world: it is used only to write Georgian (and, occasionally, some minority languages of Georgia). It has no upper or lower case.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Didja ever notice how different ethnic groups have different name endings? . . . Georgian names end in -villi.
https://www.georgian-alphabet.com/en/alphabet.php
https://theculturetrip.com/europe/georgia/articles/16-incredible-facts
-about-the-languages-of-the-caucasus/
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Seven years behind bars in Russia for criticizing the death of children in Ukraine
Moscow councilor Alexei Gorinov is not the only politician to be targeted for questioning Putin’s ‘special operation.’ Under new laws, speaking out has become dangerous for everyone
Javier G. Cuesta, Moscow - Jul 26, 2022 - 11:42 EDT
Moscow opposition councilor Alexei Gorinov has just spent his 61st birthday in jail. His crime? To criticize the organization of an event for Children’s Day in light of the war in Ukraine.
“How we can be discussing a children’s drawing contest for Children’s Day when children are being killed every day?” he said at a filmed council meeting. “I can tell you that 100 minors have died in Ukraine, and other children have been orphaned. These are the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those who participated in World War II.” This outspoken opinion on the war in March has led Gorinov to be sentenced this month to seven years behind bars.
Just days prior to the meeting held in Moscow’s Krasnoselsky district on March 17, a law had been passed stipulating prison sentences for any Russian “discrediting the Armed Forces” or “knowingly spreading false information.” This law was promptly used against several of the seven politicians who took part in that particular council meeting, all of whom are well-known political figures in Moscow: Gorinov is the first to be jailed under the new law; Elena Kotionochkina, the incumbent president, has fled the country but has a warrant out for her arrest; and opposition activist Ilia Yashin was taken into custody a week ago on account of a video he posted on his YouTube channel concerning the Bucha massacre last March in which 1,300 Ukrainian civilians were slaughtered, and is now looking at years behind bars. Only one councilwoman voted in favor of the children’s contest.
Gorinov was sentenced under Article 207.3 of the Russian Criminal Code, adopted on March 4 which allows for prison sentences of up to 15 years. According to the judge’s 26-page ruling, Gorinov and his colleague Kotionochkina, had misled Russians, triggering “anxiety and fear” about the “special military operation” in Ukraine, a crime driven by “political hatred, disdain, antipathy and aggressiveness towards the organs of power of the Russian Federation.”
The prosecution brought various pieces of evidence against Gorinov during the trial at the Meschhanski district court, including Defense Ministry war logs that defined the Russian action in Ukraine as a special military operation “and did not mention the death of children”; an article published by Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova entitled The Special Operation Is Not the Start of a War, But its Prevention; and the agreements signed by Russian leader Vladimir Putin and the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics in Eastern Ukraine.
On March 17, while the Moscow district was discussing the children’s contest, the UN Human Rights Commission – of which Russia itself is a member – reported that at least 22 teenagers and 36 children had been killed during the offensive in Ukraine, “though the actual numbers are significantly higher.”
The video, which is still available on YouTube, shows Kotionochkina suggesting that her country is on its way to becoming “a fascist state” and proposing the modification of the contest along the lines of “children against the war in Ukraine.”
Gorinov can be seen adding, “I believe all efforts of [Russian] civil society should be aimed only at stopping the war and withdrawing Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine.” Their stance was met with the following response from the one district councilwoman to vote in favor of holding the contest in its original form: “You are obsessed!”
Following Gorinov’s conviction, more than two dozen well-known Russian lawyers and human rights activists published an open letter accusing the new post-invasion law of violating the Constitution. Specifically, they alleged that it fails to recognize ideological and political diversity as the
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You've gloated about firing people for not agreeing with you. You've watched the Left engage in getting people fired for years now and cheered it on. You've celebrated efforts of the current administration to get everyone fired who didn't take an experimental vaccination that didn't vaccinate anyone from anything.
Get fucked if you think anybody believes that you care about this, Second.
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Quote:I'm an engineer, 6ix. Nothing is about "caring" with me. That is not how engineering is done. I fired people for embezzlement, for stealing thousands of gallons of diesel fuel or power tools, for being incompetent at their work, for sexually harassing other employees. One was even fired for leaving a bulldozer in an empty storm water retention pond that was filling up. I had to get wet to save the machine before water got into the air filter inlet. That one really pissed me off when the guy who left the machine where he shouldn't would NOT go into the quickly filling pond to get it back out. What a worthless coward he was, afraid of being contaminated by dirty water.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You've gloated about firing people for not agreeing with you. You've watched the Left engage in getting people fired for years now and cheered it on. You've celebrated efforts of the current administration to get everyone fired who didn't take an experimental vaccination that didn't vaccinate anyone from anything.
Get fucked if you think anybody believes that you care about this, Second.
But none of that has anything to do with Putin jailing people who use the word 'war' instead of 'special military operation' or people who contradict Putin's false claims that Putin's military are NOT killing women, children and old men.
Putin's whole pattern of interacting with the material world is offensive to an engineer. As a matter of fact so is your pattern, 6ix. You're a crazy wussy, 6ix, same as the frequently unemployed, dishonest or deliberately misleading Trumptards I know in East Texas.
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Originally posted by second:
I'm an engineer, 6ix.
No. You aren't.
Quote:
Nothing is about "caring" with me.
Finally. It speaks the truth.
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Estonia’s prime minister has a message for the West: ‘Don’t worry about Putin’s feelings’
July 26, 2022
Sitting in her office in Stenbock House, a well-appointed neoclassical building in the heart of Tallinn’s medieval Old Town, Prime Minister Kaja Kallas wanted to discuss the last 80 years of European history. But she had only 20 minutes. Kallas was intent on sending a message to the rest of the world about yielding to Russian demands on Ukraine.
“I think a fundamental mistake was made after the Second World War,” she said, sitting beneath a painting of Moses receiving the Ten Commandments. “While the Nazi crimes were widely condemned, the communists’ crimes never were. So we see a strong revival of Stalinism right now in Russia. Seventy percent of Russians support Stalin, despite his having murdered 20 million people, despite the deportations, the prisons camps, war, everything. History books in Estonia were rewritten after communism, whereas Russians are still being taught the same history that we had to read during the Soviet period, which was total crap.”
Estonia has so far sent more than $270 million worth of military assistance to Ukraine, the equivalent of more than 30% of its annual defense budget. When considered alongside their humanitarian and financial assistance, the Estonians donated the equivalent of 0.81% of their gross domestic product to another nation at war, a staggering metric.
Kallas is keen to emphasize that security assistance is not charity. "I was asked in Parliament by our far-right party why we’re doing this," she told Yahoo News. "And I answered that Ukraine is literally fighting for us. When Russia is at war with them, they're not at war with us. And we have peace here."
Maintaining that peace is of existential necessity for Estonians, who share an uneasy 182-mile border with a revanchist power currently occupying 20% of Ukraine and threatening to permanently gobble up much, if not all, of that territory. Estonia itself was annexed by the Soviet Union in 1940 when Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler agreed to the mutual carve-up of Eastern Europe under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Until 1991, Estonia remained under Soviet rule. Tens of thousands were killed, imprisoned or deported to Siberia. Among the deportees in 1949 was Kallas’s mother, just 6 months old at the time, who was dispatched in a cattle car along with Kallas’s grandmother to the Russian tundra and raised in exile until she was 10. As Kallas pointed out, thousands of Ukrainian civilians have died, millions have been displaced, including as many as 1.6 million Ukrainians who had been deported to Russia.
In 2004, Estonia joined the European Union and NATO to be firmly in the Western camp and insusceptible to a recurrence of past victimhood — the very ambition that Ukrainians are dying on their native soil to achieve.
Kallas’s sense of history is inextricably wedded to her own genealogy; her family’s suffering can be read in every bullet and flak jacket her government has shipped to Ukraine.
More at https://news.yahoo.com/estonias-prime-minister-has-a-message-for-the-w
est-dont-worry-about-putins-feelings-223606146.html
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Originally posted by second:
Estonia’s prime minister has a message for the West: ‘Don’t worry about Putin’s feelings’
Oh, I can assure you prime minister of a country that 99.9% of American's couldn't even point out on a map without using their smartphone, one of the only things the American People give a shit less about than Ukraine is Putin's feelings.
We loved your country's brief cameo in Encino Man.
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From our analysis, it becomes clear: business retreats and sanctions are catastrophically crippling the Russian economy.
https://jabberwocking.com/how-long-can-the-russian-economy-hold-out-am
id-crippling-sanctions/
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Yeah. Sure buddy.
The fuckin' EU is destroying itself.
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-doing-better-expected-despite-130708118.
html
Good riddance.
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Quote:That is as stupid as saying that Ukraine has caused $750 billion in property damage to itself. All that money wasted because Ukraine didn't foresee the economic advantages of surrendering on Day 1 of Putin's invasion. All that money wasted because the nations now in the EU and NATO didn't surrender to the Soviet Union in 1945. All of Europe could now have the peace, happiness, and vibrant economy of North Korea if only the European leaders of 1945 had resigned after appointing Stalin as the new leader of their countries.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Sure buddy.
The fuckin' EU is destroying itself.
Ukraine’s prime minister says rebuilding will cost $750 billion.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220715233323/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/07/05/world/europe/ukraines-prime-minister-says-rebuilding-will-cost-750-billion.html
https://twitter.com/Denys_Shmyhal/status/1543961068300550144
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Let me be clear. I don't give one single shit about Ukraine or Russia's economy.
Nobody else does either.
November is coming.
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Quote:6ix, I know where you get ideas even if you think it is your idea. Trump used the phrase America First for his policy in a recent speech. Before Trump there was the America First Committee, a non-interventionist pressure group against U.S. entry into World War II. Thanks to the kind of Congressmen from 1940 who only think of America First, Germany conquered most of Europe and almost conquered Russia. FDR saved Russia, and the UK, despite the objections against helping from certain Congressmen who happen to be from the very same states that today support Trump. The Russians say, today, that help from Lend-Lease was of no importance in defeating Hitler, but the Russians are lying, or stupid, or both. I think both is the provable answer if you compare what Russia has accomplished in the last 77 years to what South Korea has accomplished. Russia and S. Korea have the same size economy. Actually, Russia is smaller! South Korea could wipe Russia off the face of the Earth if South Korea was as obnoxious as North Korea. North Korea only exists because Russian troops grabbed the north half of Korea in 1945, the same thing as Russia is doing to Ukraine in 2022, grabbing half of it to create new nations friendly to Russia.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Let me be clear. I don't give one single shit about Ukraine or Russia's economy.
Nobody else does either.
November is coming.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
See what a crap hole Russia is in the Country comparison Russia vs South Korea
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/south-korea
Donald Trump speaks at America First Agenda Summit in Washington, DC
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SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.
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Quote:In 1945, the USA was seriously thinking about nuking Moscow, nukes built for Berlin. Signym, it's you that is lying, in your worthlessness.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.
Americans and Brits could have ground Germany into hamburger without nukes and without any help from the Russians who mainly died for their country:
27 million dead Russians. <-- This is what gross incompetence looks like, Signym
7 million German dead.
419,400 American dead. <-- This is what competence achieves, fighting in the Pacific and Europe.
450,900 UK dead.
Russians have threatened, for the one thousandth time, to nuke the world this week because they are aware they almost got nuked in 1945 and should have been, considering how little Russia has accomplished in the last 77 years, almost as little as North Korea. North Korea also threatened to nuke the world, this week. N. Korea and Russia are peas in the pod, but then North Korea would not even exist without Russia invading in 1945, stealing the land after Japan abandoned Korea because Japanese Army couldn't be resupplied since the Americans destroyed the supplies.
North Korea's Kim Jong Un threatens to use nuclear weapons
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kim-jong-un-threatens-to-use-nukes-amid-t
ensions-with-us-south-korea/
WWII causalities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths_by_
country
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.
SECOND: In 1945, the USA was seriously thinking about nuking Moscow, nukes built for Berlin.
SIGNY: Because THEY recognized, even if you don't, that Russia was a major military power, and a threat to the western Allied forces. One that they might not be able to stop.
Quote:Fuck you, SECOND. Even that throwaway show, Hogan's Heroes, knew that Germans feared the eastern front. ANY historian has said that RUSSIA won the European war, not the USA. Untwist your brain and get back into reality.
SECOND: Signym, it's you that is lying, in your worthlessness.
Quote:NO, they couldn't. The RUSSIANS had built up their war industry by the end of WWII (after moving it past the Urals) and were advancing - literally as fast as tanks could move, and the Germans were retreating literally as fast as they could run - along a 1500-mile front. The western "Allies" (remember, the Allied forces consisted of RUSSIA, USA, and Britain) were only fighting on 200-mile front. If it was a race between who would reach Berlin first- Russia or USA/UK - Russia won. It was Russia that rolled into Berlin, not the USA. That makes them the winner.
SECOND Americans and Brits could have ground Germany into hamburger without nukes and without any help from the Russians who mainly died for their country:
Quote:NO, that is what Germans waging a genocidal war ON RUSSIAN SOIL, looks like.
SECOND: 27 million dead Russians. <-- This is what gross incompetence looks like, Signym
Everyone with two neurons to rub together knows that the USA escaped a massive death toll and serious damage in WWII simply because the war was not fought on USA soil. It's called "being protected on two sides by massive oceans".
Jeez, your brain is fucked-up.
Go read some history and straighten yourself out.
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Quote:Don't plan a war because you understand nothing correctly, Signym. You don't even recall that Finland beat Russia, twice. Then Finland besieged Leningrad. Then Finland beat the Nazis. Finland knows how to fight a war and win without millions of causalities. Russians don't have a clue how to fight without sacrificing themselves for no gain. As Russians are doing in 2022 in Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Jeez, your brain is fucked-up.
Go read some history and straighten yourself out.
After WWII, Finland grew to be rich and happy. Russia? Not so rich, not so happy, because there is something inherently wrong with Russians. Russians, compared to the Finns, are stupid.
GDP per capita Russia 2021 $12,198 <-- Gross incompetence, Signym
GDP per capita Finland 2021 $54,060
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland
Finland named world's happiest country for fifth straight year. <-- This is what competence looks like, Signym
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/finland-worlds-happiest-country-fifth-str
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Signym, if the Russians had NOT gotten their factories moved out of the range of the German Army, there would have been 108 million dead Russians, not 27 million. If America had moved faster on the A-bomb, it would have been Berlin and Hitler, not Hiroshima and children, who were the first to die from A-bombs. And if America had A-bombed Germany, Russia would have been next, unless it retreated from Europe.
It took just 27 months to build the first A-bomb. In Aug. 2, 1939, Einstein signed a letter addressed to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, warning that the Nazis might be developing nuclear weapons. Too bad FDR didn't get the Manhattan Project moving sooner. WWII could have ended 28 to 36 months after Aug. 2, 1939. At the 36 month mark, in Aug 1942, Russia was losing against Germany. The Battle of Stalingrad (August 1942 – February 1943) was a stupid, unnecessary battle because of Hitler's ego. The symbolism of capturing the city that bore the Soviet leader’s name evidently weighed in Hitler’s decision to divert forces en route to Baku to the siege of Stalingrad.
https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1943-2/the-nazi-tide-stops/
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: RUSSIA saved Europe from the Nazis. My in-laws were there. They saw how Germans ran from the eastern front.
Stop lying.
SECOND: In 1945, the USA was seriously thinking about nuking Moscow, nukes built for Berlin.
SIGNY: Because THEY recognized, even if you don't, that Russia was a major military power, and a threat to the western Allied forces. One that they might not be able to stop.Quote:Fuck you, SECOND. Even that throwaway show, Hogan's Heroes, knew that Germans feared the eastern front. ANY historian has said that RUSSIA won the European war, not the USA. Untwist your brain and get back into reality.
SECOND: Signym, it's you that is lying, in your worthlessness.Quote:NO, they couldn't. The RUSSIANS had built up their war industry by the end of WWII (after moving it past the Urals) and were advancing - literally as fast as tanks could move, and the Germans were retreating literally as fast as they could run - along a 1500-mile front. The western "Allies" (remember, the Allied forces consisted of RUSSIA, USA, and Britain) were only fighting on 200-mile front. If it was a race between who would reach Berlin first- Russia or USA/UK - Russia won. It was Russia that rolled into Berlin, not the USA. That makes them the winner.
SECOND Americans and Brits could have ground Germany into hamburger without nukes and without any help from the Russians who mainly died for their country:Quote:NO, that is what Germans waging a genocidal war ON RUSSIAN SOIL, looks like.
SECOND: 27 million dead Russians. <-- This is what gross incompetence looks like, Signym
Everyone with two neurons to rub together knows that the USA escaped a massive death toll and serious damage in WWII simply because the war was not fought on USA soil. It's called "being protected on two sides by massive oceans".
Jeez, your brain is fucked-up.
Go read some history and straighten yourself out.
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Un- fuck your brain, SECOND. You'll feel - and think- a lot better.
You might even stop lying! Who knows!?
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Quote:You already predicted Russia would conquer Ukraine. Will it be soon, I hope? Because what actually is happening is Russia destroying a $1 trillion worth of Ukrainian property. It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Un- fuck your brain, SECOND. You'll feel - and think- a lot better.
You might even stop lying! Who knows!?
Signym, don't you dare repeat the lie that Russia had to attack Ukraine before NATO used Ukraine to attack Russia. NATO doesn't need Ukrainian territory to launch an attack on Russia. NATO already has five nations on Russia's border. A sixth nation will not make a difference. But there is a nation that can make a difference: Finland will be in NATO and on Russia's border, and has beaten Russia to death in several wars and during the Siege of Leningrad. Does Russia need a therapeutic beating by Finland?
Russians need a reminder from the Finns that Russians are best at dying for their country, being better at that than anybody else in the world.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
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Originally posted by second:
It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.
That's never been what it is about, stupid.
Never.
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Finland beating Russia to death?
That's as good as Russia "losing" WWII.
Like I said: un- fuck your brain. It's like a not-so-fun house of mirrors in there.
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Quote:Russians forget, but Finland didn't forget the Winter War:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Finland beating Russia to death?
That's as good as Russia "losing" WWII.
Like I said: un- fuck your brain. It's like a not-so-fun house of mirrors in there.
126,875–167,976 dead or missing Russians
188,671–207,538 wounded or sick Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
Finns say, "So many Russians! Where will we bury them all?"
Asked what had been gained, one Soviet general replied, “We have won enough ground to bury our dead.” Stalin characteristically reacted in Draconian fashion, wasting little time in assigning blame and punishments.
https://www.airforcemag.com/PDF/MagazineArchive/Documents/2012/Septemb
er%202012/0912finland.pdf
Signym, the Russians tried again. It went worse the second time in the apply named Continuation War:
250,000–305,000 dead or missing Russians
575,000 medical casualties (including 385,000 wounded and 190,000 sick) Russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
Russian soldiers are the best in the world at dying for their country.
Russian civilians match their soldiers. The Siege of Leningrad killed many more Russians than died during the invasion of Finland:
1,017,881 killed, captured or missing Russians
2,418,185 wounded and sick Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#Finnish_participation
The Finnish held the siege line, making sure no Russians got away from their just deserts for invading Finland.
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Quote:6ix, don't you dare repeat the lie that Russia had to attack Ukraine before NATO used Ukraine to attack Russia. NATO doesn't need Ukrainian territory to launch an attack on Russia. NATO already has five nations on Russia's border. A sixth nation will not make a difference.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.
That's never been what it is about, stupid.
Never.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, don't you dare repeat the lie that Russia had to attack Ukraine before NATO used Ukraine to attack Russia. NATO doesn't need Ukrainian territory to launch an attack on Russia. NATO already has five nations on Russia's border. A sixth nation will not make a difference.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It would have been so much better for Russia if it had stayed home and gone about its business of building its own country, rather than either stealing somebody's land or destroying what Russia can't steal.
That's never been what it is about, stupid.
Never.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
It's not a lie.
Fuck NATO. Double fuck NATO in the ass.
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Quote:6ix, NATO would knock you unconscious and then carve into your flesh the following words to teach you the difference between Russian myths and hard facts.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
It's not a lie.
Fuck NATO. Double fuck NATO in the ass.
Myth 1: NATO promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War
Fact: Such an agreement was never made. NATO’s door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is enshrined in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. No treaty signed by the United States, Europe and Russia included provisions on NATO membership.
The idea of NATO expansion beyond a united Germany was not on the agenda in 1989, particularly as the Warsaw Pact still existed. This was confirmed by Mikhail Gorbachev in an interview in 2014: "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn't bring it up, either."
Declassified White House transcripts also reveal that, in 1997, Bill Clinton consistently refused Boris Yeltsin's offer of a 'gentlemen's agreement' that no former Soviet Republics would enter NATO: "I can't make commitments on behalf of NATO, and I'm not going to be in the position myself of vetoing NATO expansion with respect to any country, much less letting you or anyone else do so…NATO operates by consensus."
Five Russian Myths Debunked
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, NATO would knock you unconscious and then carve into your flesh...
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
It's not a lie.
Fuck NATO. Double fuck NATO in the ass.
NATO is evil. NATO would do any of that to anybody.
FUCK NATO.
I will ALWAYS root for the other guy if NATO is involved. I would even back Justin Trudeau if he got on the wrong side of NATO.
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Quote:Trump and Putin have the same anathema toward NATO. For Putin, it was because NATO stands in Putin's way. For Trump, because he is Trump and he worries that Putin could blackmail Trump. For 6ix, because he is a Trumptard.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
NATO is evil. NATO would do any of that to anybody.
FUCK NATO.
I will ALWAYS root for the other guy if NATO is involved. I would even back Justin Trudeau if he got on the wrong side of NATO.
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Russia's Plan to Replenish Troops 'Damning' Its Army to 'Failure'
"As it's gone on, the Russians have simply shown very little appetite or inclination to improve," Stavridis said. "That is true not only in the failing logistics efforts, but also they continue these manifest war crimes, their battle plans are ridiculously bad as a general proposition."
"We were briefed that over 75,000 Russians have either been killed or wounded in Ukraine, which is huge. ... Over 80 percent of their land forces are bogged down, and they're tired."
To put 75,000 in perspective, under 2,500 U.S. service members were killed in nearly two decades of war in Afghanistan and less than 21,000 were wounded.
https://www.newsweek.com/russias-plan-replenish-troops-damning-its-arm
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The enemy within: How Russia spread a secret web of agents across Ukraine
July 28, 2022, Reuters reports:
When the first armoured vehicles of Russia’s invading army reached the heart of Chornobyl nuclear plant on the afternoon of Feb. 24, they encountered a Ukrainian unit charged with defending the notorious facility.
In less than two hours, and without a fight, the 169 members of the Ukrainian National Guard laid down their weapons. Russia had taken Chornobyl, a repository for tonnes of nuclear material and a key staging post on the approach to Kyiv.
The fall of Chornobyl, site of the world’s worst nuclear disaster, stands out as an anomaly in the five-month old war: a successful blitzkrieg operation in a conflict marked elsewhere by a brutal and halting advance by Russian troops and grinding resistance by Ukraine.
Now a Reuters investigation has found that Russia’s success at Chornobyl was no accident, but part of a long-standing Kremlin operation to infiltrate the Ukrainian state with secret agents.
Five people with knowledge of the Kremlin’s preparations said war planners around President Vladimir Putin believed that, aided by these agents, Russia would require only a small military force and a few days to force Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s administration to quit, flee or capitulate.
Through interviews with dozens of officials in Russia and Ukraine and a review of Ukrainian court documents and statements to investigators, related to a probe into the conduct of people who worked at Chornobyl, Reuters has established that this infiltration reached far deeper than has been publicly acknowledged. The officials interviewed include people inside Russia who were briefed on Moscow’s invasion planning and Ukrainian investigators tasked with tracking down spies.
“Apart from the external enemy, we unfortunately have an internal enemy, and this enemy is no less dangerous,” the secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defence Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said in an interview.
At the time of the invasion, Danilov said, Russia had agents in the Ukrainian defence, security and law enforcement sectors. He declined to give names but said such traitors needed to be “neutralised” at all costs.
Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation is conducting a probe into whether the National Guard acted unlawfully by surrendering its weapons to an enemy, a local official told Reuters. The State Bureau of Investigation didn’t comment. The National Guard defended the actions of its unit at the plant, pointing to the risks of conflict at a nuclear site.
Court documents and testimony, reported here for the first time, reveal the role played by Chornobyl’s head of security, Valentin Viter, who is in detention and is being investigated for absenting himself from his post. An extract from the state register of pre-trial investigations, seen by Reuters, shows Viter is also suspected of treason, an allegation his lawyer says is unfounded. In a statement to investigators, Viter said that on the day of the invasion he spoke by phone with the National Guard unit commander. Viter advised the commander not to endanger his unit, telling him: “Spare your people.”
One source with direct knowledge of the Kremlin’s invasion plans told Reuters that Russian agents were deployed to Chornobyl last year to bribe officials and prepare the ground for a bloodless takeover. Reuters couldn’t independently verify the details of this assertion. However, Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation has said it is investigating a former top intelligence official, Andriy Naumov, on suspicion of treason for passing Chornobyl security secrets to a foreign state.
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Quote:Knowing how you like to LIE using snippets, I noticed that you failed to mention this little gem (from your source):
SignyM:
Finland beating Russia to death?
That's as good as Russia "losing" WWII.
Like I said: un- fuck your brain. It's like a not-so-fun house of mirrors in there.
SECOND: Russians forget, but Finland didn't forget the Winter War:
126,875–167,976 dead or missing Russians
188,671–207,538 wounded or sick Russians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
Quote:Oh, dear. Official history tells us you are LYING.
After the Soviet military reorganized and adopted different tactics, they renewed their offensive in February and overcame Finnish defences.
Hostilities ceased in March 1940 with the signing of the Moscow Peace Treaty in which Finland ceded 9% of its territory to the Soviet Union.
Quote:
Signym, the Russians tried again. It went worse the second time in the apply named Continuation War:
250,000–305,000 dead or missing Russians
575,000 medical casualties (including 385,000 wounded and 190,000 sick) Russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
Again,knowing how you like to, er ...LIE ... you failed to mention THESE little gems (from your source)
Quote:
The Continuation War, also known as the Second Soviet-Finnish War, was a conflict fought by Finland and Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1944, as part of World War II... On 22 June 1941, Germany launched an invasion of the Soviet Union. Three days later, the Soviet Union conducted an air raid on Finnish cities, prompting Finland to declare war and allow German troops stationed in Finland to begin offensive warfare.
Let's think ... WHO won that war, again?
"Finland", you say?
Once again, your official sources reveal that you're LYING.
Please, unfuck uour brain. It's rotten and spoiled in there.
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SECOND: Five people with knowledge of the Kremlin’s preparations...
Quote:
SECOND:Trump and Putin have the same anathema toward NATO. For Putin, it was because NATO stands in Putin's way. For Trump, because he is Trump and he worries that Putin could blackmail Trump. For 6ix, because he is a Trumptard.
Uh huh.
More bullshit from SECOND.
I hope you realize, SECOND, that nobody .... and I mean nobody ... is won over with your lying, contradictions, libel, and self-justification. Even CAPON has more or less abandoned you. He prolly thinks you're an embarassing amateur who hurts his cause, and squirms when he reads your posts.
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Quote:Russia and Finland are neighbors. Russia has GDP per person that is less than one quarter of Finland's. Is Finland to blame for Russia's relative poverty? No.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Russia and South Korea are neighbors. Russian GDP per person is less than South Korea. Is South Korea to blame for Russia's poverty? No.
You know who has a GDP per person less that Russia? North Korea, which was created by the Russian Army. The Russian Army is pushing Ukraine further into relative poverty, but Ukraine is fighting back, because they know what will happen if Russia wins. It will be the same relative poverty of North Korea vs South Korea:
Russia $12,198 GDP per capita 2021
Finland $54,060
South Korea $34,744
Ukraine $4,567
North Korea $683 (2017)
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/south-korea
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/ukraine
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/north-korea
The $1 trillion property damage that Russia has done to Ukraine will certainly make Ukraine poorer in the future than these statistics show.
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What does this have to do with anything, SECOND?
Well, it doesn't. Just more crap to splatter, eh?
PS: Ukraine was a shithole BEFORE the invasion. It is poor because it is the most corrupt nation in Europe, including Albania, and that's saying something!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump and Putin have the same anathema toward NATO.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
NATO is evil. NATO would do any of that to anybody.
FUCK NATO.
I will ALWAYS root for the other guy if NATO is involved. I would even back Justin Trudeau if he got on the wrong side of NATO.
Good. They're smart.
You're the guy who voted for a meat popsicle.
Get fucked.
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You Know It Is Getting Bad for Ukraine When PBS Disputes the Propaganda
27 July 2022 by Larry Johnson
Fortunately, I was sitting down when I saw the following video. I had an easier fall to the floor from the sitting position then if I had been standing upright. This is a genuine stunner. A reporter for the PUBLIC BROADCAST SYSTEM– let me repeat that, a PBS reporter on the ground in Ukraine and reporting from the Ukraine side of the fightin –blows up the Ukrainian propaganda that Russia was shelling civilian targets during the sustained bombardments. This is akin to Rachel Maddow admitting the Joe Biden is the Big Guy and on the take from the Chinese. Whoops!
The PBS Newshour (formerly as McNeil/Lehrer back in the old days) is the bastion of Deep State propaganda. As the catechism is to Catholics, the PBS Newshour is to Democrats. So what happened in Ukraine that has caused this shill of the Deep State to do real journalism? The reporter debunks the Ukrainian claim that Russia hit a civilian apartment building. He notes the smell of dead bodies and cites a source stating that the bodies pulled out of this smoldering rubble were soldiers. As he trashes the Ukraine claim he shows video of military shoes, uniforms and decals scattered in the piles of stone and twisted iron.
Take a look:
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/_/4/B/_/_4B_e.caa.mp4?u=0&b=0
"We've seen evidence that the Ukrainian military did indeed use this area as a base [shots of military boots and fatigues in the rubble] ...
Up to 30, maybe even 40, Ukrainian military soldiers and officers may have been killed here...
A cleaning woman who worked here provided Russia with targeting information for this secret facility" - Simon Ostrovsky, PBS News Hour
This is NOT Russian propaganda. This is a certified member of the Mainstream Media. He is Deep State approved. And he decides that now is a good time to expose a lie by Ukrainian authorities? This is not an accident. I see it as a signal that the Washington establishment’s enthusiasm for this war and their optimism that Ukraine will prevail is slipping. Remember, PBS depends almost entirely on funding from Uncle Joe Biden, Cousin Chuck Schumer and Aunt Nancy Pelosi.
MORE AT
https://sonar21.com/you-know-it-is-getting-bad-for-ukraine-when-pbs-di
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ROUNDTABLE ON NUCLEAR ARMS WITH CIA AND NUCLEAR ARMS EXPERTS MCGOVERN, POSTOL, AND JOHNSON
This is a well-informed discussion on the history and future of nuclear arms and nuclear arms treaties by CIA who helped create those treaties and by weapons capabalities expert at MIT, Argonne, and Stanford.
If you want to know what nuclear weapons, anti-ballistic systems, cruise missiles and radar systems and satellites can ...and can't ... do, and how that affects nuclear treaties and nuclear policy, this is the discussion to go to. (PS Our "intelligence" and technical "experts" under GWB, Obama, Trump, and Biden are all grossly ignorant of reality.)
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Quote:Two countries take dissimilar paths. Russia builds A-bombs, threatens to nuke the world, and is poor compared to its neighbor Finland that built no bombs, threatens nobody. Russia's protege, North Korea, threatens to nuke the world and is poor compared to South Korea. The world told Russia and North Korea to stop with the endless threats, but neither country stops, turns around and devotes its efforts toward prosperity rather than war. Russia will be poorer because of its war with Ukraine even if Putin declares Russia "won". Win or lose, Ukraine will be $1 trillion poorer because Russia damaged the property.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What does this have to do with anything, SECOND?
Well, it doesn't. Just more crap to splatter, eh?
PS: Ukraine was a shithole BEFORE the invasion. It is poor because it is the most corrupt nation in Europe, including Albania, and that's saying something!
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Here is how to know who is poor/rich:
Russia $12,198 GDP per capita 2021
Finland $54,060
South Korea $34,744
Ukraine $4,567
North Korea $683 (2017)
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America builds A-bombs and actually uses them in warfarre against a civilian population. TWICE..
Why are you hyperventilating about Russia?
I mean, seriously SECOND, why do you keep splattering crap all over the board?
And if you want to compare "pathways", how about the pathway where the USA builds A-bombs (first), uses them (first), constantly threatens the world with them (first), withdraws from all treaties limiting their deployment and use, but apparently suffers no ill-effects from its hyperaggressive nuclear stance?
The biggest threat to world peace is the USA, not Russia.
I found the ROUNDTABLE discussion particularly interesting when they discussed the Aegis Ashore system and why it is a provocation when deployed in Europe, starting at about 1 hour, and what it has to do with Ukraine.
As a (claimed) engineer, SECOND, you should be interested in the technical details of how this system works.
Oh, and BTW... you keep claiming that N Korea is Russia's protege. Russia has no ongoing support or even much trade with N Korea and hasn't had for decades.
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Kim desperately needed to replace the narrative of weakness after failing to make a widely expected deal with the United States at the Hanoi summit with a narrative of strength, both domestically and internationally. Last week’s summit with Putin allowed Kim to show stature internationally and discuss alternatives to the U.S.-proposed big deal on denuclearization. But he failed to win Russian support for weakening the international sanctions regime.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/where-does-russia-north-korea-relationshi
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Their trade can be measured in double-digit millions of dollars, it's that low.
MORE lies from SECOND!
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SECOND: The number of lies you'e told in this thread is staggering.
You'd think after a while it would become obvious TO YOU that you're regarded as a fatally twisted source of (dis)info.
Well, I have dishes to wash and other more important things to do than to try and straighten out someone's thinking who doesn't want to be straightened out.
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Quote:There is a video, in Russian, that mocks people such as you, Signym, who constantly accuse others of lying.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: The number of lies you'e told in this thread is staggering.
You'd think after a while it would become obvious TO YOU that you're regarded as a fatally twisted source of (dis)info.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ts9HCTP
The title of the video is “No, I don’t have a dick on my forehead, you must be lying”
The video illustrates how absurd people such as Signym are, but I doubt Signym will understand. Most likely Signym will claim it is not Signym being ridiculed.
Translation of the video at https://imgur.com/gallery/Ts9HCTP
Off camera woman: Hello, could you tell me your thoughts on the fact that all Russian citizens have had dicks drawn on their forehead? What do you think about this?
Woman with dick on forehead: Oh, well, I don't really know much about the topic. I'm not a urologist, I'm a regular person. I don't know what someone drew on someone else.
Off camera: You don't need to be a urologist to understand you have a dick on your forehead. Just look in the mirror.
Woman with dick on forehead: But it's illegal now to look in mirrors, and as for what people say...you know, people say one thing and the TV says another. Who knows what is true?
Off camera: Why not ask one of your relatives? I'm looking at you and I'm telling you you have a dick on your forehead. Why would I lie?
Woman with dick on her forehead: I don't know. These days there are so many fakes, so much provocation. We can't know where the truth lies.
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Finns call for halt to 'unbearable' Russian tourism
Finland remains Russia's only EU neighbour to grant tourist visas to Russian citizens. But many Finns are unhappy with the situation, and the thought of Russians enjoying a Finnish summer while Ukrainians suffer under a brutal invasion has been met with indignation.
"It is not right that Russians can freely travel to Finland. It takes away the basis for the sanctions," local Kirsi Iljin said. "I think there should be some restrictions."
As an act of solidarity with Ukraine, Finland's conservative opposition party proposed a halt to new tourist visas for Russians this week.
"This situation is unbearable," Jukka Kopra, a National Coalition Party MP told AFP. "Ukraine's citizens are being killed, including civilians, women and children, and at the same time Russians are spending holidays in the EU."
There appears to be widespread backing for the proposal in the Finnish parliament, with MPs across party lines voicing support for visa restrictions.
"Personally, I think restrictions should be increased," said Aki Linden from the ruling Social Democrats, acting PM while Sanna Marin is away. "The matter is currently (with) the Ministry of Foreign Affairs," he told AFP.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russia "would react very negatively" to proposed restrictions.
https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1947466.html
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Shut the fuck up Second.
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Quote:Are you still mad at Ukraine for Trump's first impeachment? That was years and years ago when President Volodymyr Zelensky dragged Trump's fat ass through the barbed wire. Get over it.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up Second.
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Trump impeachment: The short, medium and long story
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you still mad at Ukraine for Trump's first impeachment?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up Second.
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Nope. That impeachment was a joke, unlike Biden*'s upcoming impeachment.
I'm just tired of hearing virtue signalling twats like you talking all day about things you don't understand is all.
How many tourism businesses in Finland do you want to destroy to sate your Putinphobia?
Get fucked, moron.
Your opinions on everything are bullshit.
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Quote:Every fucking Trumptard I know gets upset when told his adultery will end his marriage. If the Trumptard has to think about consequences of his sex life outside of marriage, that limits the Trumptard's freedom to fuck whoever he wants, and Trumptards refuse to stay within the limits on their freedom. The Trumptards want to leave behind the boundary lines on their freedom and live in pure chaos. I picked adultery because there is not a Trumptard in Texas that keeps their marriage vows. And very few Trumptards are truthful about their adultery. They deny doing what they are doing because lying gives them freedom to keep doing it. Trump, himself, didn't live up to his vows and he has been divorced 2 times? 3 times? However many.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you still mad at Ukraine for Trump's first impeachment?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up Second.
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Nope. That impeachment was a joke, unlike Biden*'s upcoming impeachment.
I'm just tired of hearing virtue signalling twats like you talking all day about things you don't understand is all.
How many tourism businesses in Finland do you want to destroy to sate your Putinphobia?
Get fucked, moron.
Your opinions on everything are bullshit.
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Anyway, Trump breaks the limits on his freedom at every chance he gets, whether it is adultery, or limits on strong-arming the President of Ukraine for Trump's political advantage, or paying his Federal income taxes. Since Trumptards are doing the same things, it is not a problem for them. Actually, it is a problem for them. The Trumptards end up divorced or lose their girlfriend. They end up bankrupt and owing taxes. They get fired from their jobs. These are all things that have happened, or almost happened, to Trump.
Even Putin could be a Trumptard. He cheated on his wife and ended up divorced. He has mistresses and bastard children. He doesn't pay his taxes. He can't even keep the simplest rules of a national leader: do not invade another country to satisfy his egotistical need to be another Peter the Great expanding the territory controlled by Russia.
Has Vladimir Putin Always Been Corrupt?
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/has-vladimir-putin-always-been-corr
upt-and-does-it-matter
Putin compares himself to Peter the Great in Russian territorial push – video
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/jun/10/putin-compares-him
self-to-peter-the-great-in-russian-territorial-push-video
Marriage, mistresses and mystery children: the private life of Putin
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/marriage-mistresses-and-mystery-chi
ldren-the-private-life-of-vladimir-putin-36s0780m0
It is to be expected that a guy like Putin would cause a $1 trillion in damage to Ukraine. Whoever gave Putin the job, which includes an army that Putin can use for whatever purpose pleases him, is a fool. That fool was Boris Yeltsin, a famous drunken Russian who died from excessive alcoholic consumption.
When a Russian President Ended Up Drunk and Disrobed Outside the White House
Was Bill Clinton's 1994 meeting with Boris Yeltsin the most hilariously awful state visit in history?
https://www.history.com/news/bill-clinton-boris-yeltsin-drunk-1994-rus
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Shut the fuck up, Second.
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Quote:Says the guy who lost years to alcohol. Says the guy who lost all his teeth because he wouldn't go to the dentist. Alcoholism and toothlessness describes Russian voters who would repeatedly reelect Putin and his predecessor Boris Yeltsin. People with poor judgment, like Putin, his voters, you and every other Trumptard I know, have problems that they should have avoided, but didn't, because they want to be free to do whatever, even invade Ukraine or twist the arm of the President of Ukraine for reelection help.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up, Second.
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By the way, Volodymyr Zelenskyy knew what a creep Trump was and refused to get involved in Trump's reelection schemes. Same thing is happening with Zelenskyy and Putin's creepy schemes to be the next Peter the Great. Completely unlike Trumptards, Zelenskyy severely restricted his personal freedom by not giving Trump and Putin what they wanted.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Says the guy who lost years to alcohol. Says the guy who lost all his teeth because he wouldn't go to the dentist.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut the fuck up, Second.
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What would you have me do about that, Arthur? Cry about it every day for the rest of my life and just die?
I can't change the past, but I have the power to change the future by doing right today.
Get some fucking help, lunatic. You obviously aren't capable of helping yourself.
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Quote:You are the same as every Trumptard I know. You learned nothing from bad experience and keep making the same mistakes, then forgiving yourself, and then after a time delay, making the same classic mistakes. It does not end well for people like you. It won't end well for Russians, who seem to have an appetite for the worst kind of rulers: Stalin, Boris Yeltsin and Putin. In America, they wanted Nixon (who was reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Bush II (reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Trump (almost reelected despite signs he shouldn't be), provably the worst kind of rulers.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What would you have me do about that, Arthur? Cry about it every day for the rest of my life and just die?
I can't change the past, but I have the power to change the future by doing right today.
Get some fucking help, lunatic. You obviously aren't capable of helping yourself.
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Originally posted by second:
You are the same as every Trumptard I know. You learned nothing from bad experience and keep making the same mistakes, then forgiving yourself, and then after a time delay, making the same classic mistakes. It does not end well for people like you.
A. You offer no proof of me making the same mistakes. In fact, you don't even point out any specific examples.
In the case you brought up above, I have never had a drink after I quit... now going on 6 years, and I only have the ability to lose my teeth once.
So what are your examples?
B. You should always be able to forgive yourself. Guilt will rip you apart, dude. Ask me how I know.
C. It doesn't end well for anybody. If some thug doesn't end up shooting you in the street, or a car doesn't accidentally run you over or a random piano doesn't fall on your head, you're going to die of cancer or a heart attack. If you're lucky, one of those things will happen before dementia rots your brain and makes you a mental prisoner in your own head or your body just gives up on you and your very existence becomes a burden on everyone else around you. If you're really, really lucky you will just spontaneously die in your sleep one night with a smile on your face and piss and shit all over your bed sheets will be your final gift for whoever has to clean up the mess.
Why are you so afraid of death? Why are you so afraid of forgiving yourself for making mistakes?
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Amen, SIX.
The dood posts like he's going to live forever.
*****
My dad's mother died when he was 13. My grandpa's first wife died, my (maternal) grandma was his second wife. Half of my grandma's eight children and stepchildren died before adulthood. including one baby and one young child. Hubby recalls hearing a young couple in his village who died, after screaming for days, from eating poisoned mushrooms. And a young boy who was kicked in the head by a horse. In the mountain hamlet where hubby spent some of his summers, if someone was dying in agony the village elder women would get together and decide whether they would put an end to the person's misery with an overdose of poppy.
Whether you're Hitler or Ghandi, it doesn't matter: you will die.
SECOND thinking that he's so righteous he'll escape death is one of his bigger delusions. Why he HAS to believe that ... well, that's another problem.
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Russian Embassy, UK @RussianEmbassy
Russia government organization
#Azov militants deserve execution, but death not by firing squad but by hanging, because they’re not real soldiers. They deserve a humiliating death.
2:00 PM · Jul 29, 2022·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1553093117712162828
Russians Deliberately Shelled Prison Where They Tortured And Shot Ukrainian POWs
https://en.defence-ua.com/events/russians_deliberately_shelled_prison_
where_they_tortured_and_shot_ukrainian_pows-3712.html
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Quote:Posted by Signym – Saturday, January 1, 2022 12:21 PM
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Amen, SIX.
The dood posts like he's going to live forever.
*****
My dad's mother died when he was 13. My grandpa's first wife died, my (maternal) grandma was his second wife. Half of my grandma's eight children and stepchildren died before adulthood. including one baby and one young child. Hubby recalls hearing a young couple in his village who died, after screaming for days, from eating poisoned mushrooms. And a young boy who was kicked in the head by a horse. In the mountain hamlet where hubby spent some of his summers, if someone was dying in agony the village elder women would get together and decide whether they would put an end to the person's misery with an overdose of poppy.
Whether you're Hitler or Ghandi, it doesn't matter: you will die.
SECOND thinking that he's so righteous he'll escape death is one of his bigger delusions. Why he HAS to believe that ... well, that's another problem.
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Ten days of sunny to mostly sunny weather 60=70 deg daytime high.
THIS is the weather that I love!
Too bad I'll be indoors recovering from chemo.
Yes, I have cancer, That "nothing" mammo turned out to be a small but aggressive type of cancer that popped up and metastasized into at least one lymph node between mammograms. Helped along by one (rare) bad gene that didn't turn up on the usual 8=gene panel, but needed a full 90-gene panel to be revealed. (no family Hx of breast cancer, and this one has nothing to do with hormones or pregnanacy or breastfeeding or abortions, it's called a HER2+ cancer combined with a BARD1 gene defect that means I don't repair DNA very well. I guess I got "lucky". The geneticist was all excited to find it. Me, not so much.)
I've been on chemo since mid-Oct, and I gotta say: it sucks. One more infusion in three weeks, then surgery to remove breast and lymph nodes, see how much cancer remains, recovery, then back on another less stringent form of chemo for another 9 months. If not a cure, then life prolongs for another 3 years, maybe more.
Gotta say, chemo sucks. Lost most of my hair, but nobody tells you you can lose your fingernails and toenails too. Nerve damage: everything tastes bitter, especially the "good for me" foods like ... oh pretty much any source of protein like meat, cheese, anything aged (soy, saurkraut, pickled anything) or anything with ANY bitterness in the falvorprofile. eve apples taste bitter.
Cumulative nerve damage elsewhere too- can't feel my fingertips very well, my toes, or the balls of my feet so I have to pick up things very carefully, walk carefully, and I lose my balance often bc I can't tell where my weight is on my feet. I tripped and fell down... hard... while walking the dog, tore the elbow off a VERY heavy duty-shirt and skinned myself up pretty good. Lost a lot of weight. Needed two transfusions bc of anemia due to general bone marrow suppression. Aches and pains like the worst flu-like body aches X5 from the Neulasta used to boost white blood cell production. Diarrhea. Need my heart function checked every three months to make sure I'm not developing heart failure. Palpitations and supraventricular tachycardia. Fatigue. It's been a cavalcade of side effects and medications to manage the side effects. Fortunately, the vomitting hasn't happened.
But! Only one more to go! Looking forward to that, and eventual recovery and some semblance of better health and activity.
The family has been very helpful. Dear daughter = despite her anxieties and disabilities- has been really pitching in and very patient with my outbursts and bad temper, and just gives me a hug. What a sweetie! Hubby and she have been running all my usual errands, and he's been taking me for my appointments and staying with me for my infusions
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Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.
When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.
It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.
What about you SECOND?
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Quote:It does not end well for people like you. It won't end well for Russians, who seem to have an appetite for the worst kind of rulers: Stalin, Boris Yeltsin and Putin. In America, they wanted Nixon (who was reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Bush II (reelected despite every sign he shouldn't be), Trump (almost reelected despite signs he shouldn't be), provably the worst kind of rulers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.
When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.
It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.
What about you SECOND?
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What I fear, Signym, is your stupidity and lack of control, which gets expressed by people such as Trump or Putin, people who threaten to nuke the world:
President Donald Trump, in his first address to the United Nations, derided Kim Jong Un, North Korea’s leader, as a “rocket man” on Tuesday as the president warned that he may be forced to "totally destroy" the rogue nation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-un-north-korean-lea
der-suicide-mission-n802596
I could editorialize that Trump is a blowhard and a fool, but why bother? Trumptards don't seem to notice how dangerous he is.
Putin Threatens to Nuke the World
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-threatens-nuke-world-opinion-1685241
Why bother editorializing about Putin, either? He is expressing the Everybody Dies nihilism of 6ix, Signym, and every Trumptard I have ever known, including Trump, and all of them (with no exceptions that I know of) are killing themselves with their stupidity and lack of self-control and would deliberately kill the human race if they could figure out how it is done without too much effort. (Too cryptic? Talk to Christians about Armageddon and the Book of Revelations. )
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Quote:OMFG, and you think it will "end well" for you???
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.
When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.
It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.
What about you SECOND?
SECOND: It does not end well for people like you.
How??
The only way you can guarantee HOW you will die is if you commit suicide. Is that your exit plan then?
The one good thing about your death SECOND, is that all of that hate and bile that you spent your entire adult lifetime spewing will end with you. And, there go all of your"riches". Pffft! The world will be a better place without you.
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I'm really enjoying how this thread has devolved into nothing more than a catalogue of Second's insanity.
It is a real shame that he copied a PERSONAL post that you didn't want to be up for very long though, Sigs. I know this isn't the first time he's been an asshole and thrown it in your face.
It takes a real special kind of evil psychopath to do that.
Oh yeah... The reason that Second still thinks he's going to live forever is because he's a 20-Something beatoff living in his parents basement.
Go listen to your mom and take that trash out, worm. Your mother must have been an awful person in a previous life to have to put up with the likes of you.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:OMFG, and you think it will "end well" for you???
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Like I said, it doesn't matter whether you're Ghandi or Hitler ... or SIGNY or SECOND ... we will die. Some of us slowly and painfully. Maybe even you, SECOND. Maybe Agent Orange will catch up with you.
When I die- and I know I will someday -my regret, if I have any, will be what I couldn't manage to do for my family.
It's not that we die, because we all do no matter how righteous we feel or how diligently we take care of ourselves, it's what we've managed to do with the time in-between. I don't fear death.
What about you SECOND?
SECOND: It does not end well for people like you.
How??
The only way you can guarantee HOW you will die is if you commit suicide. Is that your exit plan then?
The one good thing about your death SECOND, is that all of that hate and bile that you spent your entire adult lifetime spewing will end with you. And, there go all of your"riches". Pffft! The world will be a better place without you.
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Signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?
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With the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the financial situation of the Russians has significantly worsened. About 21 million people have fallen below the poverty line since the beginning of 2022. As a result, the Russians steal and engage in other crimes while the Kremlin spends billions of rubles daily on its imperial ambitions.
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I don't don't what drove SECOND ove the edge, but he's crazier than a shithouse rat.
And THUGR... he's just really, really stupid.
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There is no denying Ted's stupidity. I seriously wonder most days if I've ever once ran into a person who wasn't clearly mentally disabled that is dumber than Ted.
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Originally posted by SECOND: It does not end well for people like you.
Silly me, I just realized why SECOND shut up: He was in the process of blurting out that he knows something about me IRL that I didn't post about myself.
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Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.
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Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
Moscow earlier blamed Ukraine for the strike, saying US-made HIMARS rocket launchers were used to carry it out
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
The Russian Defense Ministry announced on Sunday that it had officially invited independent experts from the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the shelling of a detention center in Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The Friday bombing killed 50 prisoners, with dozens more wounded.
“In the interest of conducting an objective investigation of the strike on the detention center in Yelenovka, which led to the deaths of many Ukrainian prisoners of war, the Russian Federation has officially invited experts from the UN and the International Red Cross Committee,” the ministry said.
MORE AT
https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-russia-pow-un-red-cross-ukraine/
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Quote:Russia Today, also known as rt.com, would claim that.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.
https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-russia-pow-un-red-cross-ukraine/
Ukraine did not kill Ukraine prisoners. The Russians did it. Russians locked prisoners in a building, then destroyed the building to send a message to Ukrainians fighting Russia.
It has been pointed out that the Geneva Convention requires that prisoners be removed far, far away from the battlefield so that these "accidental executions" can't happen. During WWII, America moved POWs all the way to the USA. That means that when Russia has POWs it is suppose to move the POWs over the border into Russia, making sure that prisoners are kept safe. Unlike the USA during WWII, Russian executed POWs or made them slave labor.
The Russians are doing the same to prisoners today as they did in the past, kill or enslave:
German prisoners of war in the Soviet Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Un
ion
German prisoners of war in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_United_St
ates
Distribution of major POW camps
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Quote:Former televangelist Pat Robertson says Putin is beginning Armageddon
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't don't what drove SECOND ove the edge, but he's crazier than a shithouse rat.
And THUGR... he's just really, really stupid.
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Former televangelist Pat Robertson had an interesting take on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russian President Vladimir Putin is being "driven by God" to bring about Armageddon.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-699091
It is even Putin talking about Armageddon.
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+armageddon
05.22.2022 Sen. Mitt Romney: We Must Prepare for Putin’s Worst Weapons
Quote:https://www.romney.senate.gov/we-must-prepare-for-putins-worst-weapons/
By invading Ukraine, Mr. Putin has already proved that he is capable of illogical and self-defeating decisions. If he loses in Ukraine, he not only will have failed to achieve his life’s ambition to reverse what he sees as the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of the 20th century — the collapse of the Soviet Union — but he will also have permanently diminished Russia as a great power and reinvigorated its adversaries. It is possible that Mr. Putin could face significant internal challenges to his leadership. In such a circumstance, he may be able to convince himself that the United States and the West are the reason he invaded Ukraine and that the propaganda he has deployed to justify this immoral invasion was true from the beginning.
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Just give it up dude.
Democrats are finished.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.Quote:
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
Moscow earlier blamed Ukraine for the strike, saying US-made HIMARS rocket launchers were used to carry it out
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
The Russian Defense Ministry announced on Sunday that it had officially invited independent experts from the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the shelling of a detention center in Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The Friday bombing killed 50 prisoners, with dozens more wounded.
“In the interest of conducting an objective investigation of the strike on the detention center in Yelenovka, which led to the deaths of many Ukrainian prisoners of war, the Russian Federation has officially invited experts from the UN and the International Red Cross Committee,” the ministry said.
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Animals comrade signym, Russians are animals
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Kiev shells POW camp housing it's own soldiers.Quote:
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
Moscow earlier blamed Ukraine for the strike, saying US-made HIMARS rocket launchers were used to carry it out
Russia invites UN and Red Cross experts to investigate POW camp bombing
The Russian Defense Ministry announced on Sunday that it had officially invited independent experts from the UN and the Red Cross to investigate the shelling of a detention center in Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR). The Friday bombing killed 50 prisoners, with dozens more wounded.
“In the interest of conducting an objective investigation of the strike on the detention center in Yelenovka, which led to the deaths of many Ukrainian prisoners of war, the Russian Federation has officially invited experts from the UN and the International Red Cross Committee,” the ministry said.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/559920-russia-pow-un-red-cross-ukraine/
Animals comrade signym, Russians are animals regardless of where they live. You are evidence of that.
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But I guess we have to go back to the old metric: people who will believe trannies exist, and that there is such a thing as child trannies, will believe anything. So you can just tell people Russia bombed its own POW camp, filled with prisoners who had already allegedly made deals to testify on war crimes.
This is wacko.
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https://www.unz.com/aanglin/the-ukraine-launches-himarss-to-kill-their
-own-pows-in-russian-camp-blames-russia/
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Originally posted by THG:
Animals comrade signym, Russians are animals regardless of where they live. You are evidence of that.
Racist.
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Quote:The United States State Department suspects between 900,000 and 1.6 million Ukrainian citizens, including 260,000 children, have been detained and transferred to Russia, often to isolated regions.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Pity . . .
“Moscow’s actions appear pre-meditated and draw immediate historical comparisons to Russian ‘filtration’ operations in Chechnya and other areas. President Putin’s ‘filtration’ operations are separating families, confiscating Ukrainian passports, and issuing Russian passports in an apparent effort to change the demographic makeup of parts of Ukraine,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken wrote in the statement. Reports also show Russia is deliberately separating children from their families and putting children up for adoption.
https://www.vox.com/2022/7/31/23286026/the-attack-on-a-prison-holding-
ukraine-pows-explained-russia
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Bullshit.
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Quote:The contrast between ordinary Ukrainians grabbing a gun, rushing to the front to risk their lives as they fight for their country, and Americans moaning about the price of filling up their Ford F150s is unsettling. The lack of imagination that some Americans have when it comes to a very dangerous moment on the European continent and the lack of commitment to make small sacrifices to help keep the Russians from invading the rest of Europe defines petulance.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Bullshit.
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Shelling targeted grain businessman
The mayor of the major Ukrainian port city of Mykolaiv, Vitaliy Kim, said shelling killed one of Ukraine’s wealthiest men, Oleksiy Vadatursky, and his wife, Raisa. Vadatursky headed a grain production and export business.
Another presidential adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, said Vadatursky was specifically targeted.
It “was not an accident, but a well-thought-out and organized premeditated murder. Vadatursky was one of the largest farmers in the country, a key person in the region and a major employer,” he said.
Vadatursky’s agribusiness, Nibulon, includes a fleet of ships for sending grain abroad.
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/houston-chronicle/20220801/28239410820
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NATO sure sucks, huh?
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Russia plans to hold elections in the occupied Ukrainian territories of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and others as early as September, paving the way for Russian President Vladimir Putin to annex those regions in the same way he did in 2014 when he seized Ukraine’s Crimea Peninsula.
Of course, Russian officials deny they covet these territories. “The determination of the future destiny of those people is in their hands,” a Kremlin spokesman told Bloomberg. “If they are going to make any referendums, it will be their decision.”
But Putin is clearly planning on annexing territories that Ukrainians have failed to reconquer since Russia invaded the country in late February.
Before the war caused millions across the country to leave their homes, more than 2.5 million people lived in the regions. Russian hardliners don’t view their Ukrainian citizenship as legitimate. “The so-called ‘party of war’ believes that Russia should annex these territories,” that they are “part of Russia historically and so must be returned,” said Russian political analyst Tatiana Stanovaya in an interview with the Washington Post. “For them, it’s inevitable.”
Russia is already using a mix of “terror, state propaganda, handouts and promises to rebuild destroyed areas” to drum up loyalty, she added, while detaining or killing local politicians, activists and journalists who might resist their efforts.
Such a move as elections would potentially bolster Putin’s revanchist claims on Ukrainian soil even as the Russian military fails to achieve a decisive victory and continues to lose significant personnel and equipment, wrote Agence France-Presse, a testament to Ukrainian resolve, Western military support, and poor Russian planning and execution.
It would also likely make it much harder for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to agree to any peace deal in the future, added Axios, as Russia would insist that the conquered land was Russian sovereign territory. Conversely, if Putin annexed the regions and then lost them to a Ukrainian counteroffensive, he could suffer a stinging embarrassment.
Diplomats in Syria, a Russian ally, recently said they would recognize the independence and sovereignty of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, effectively saying they have the freedom to join the Russian Federation if they so choose, the Associated Press reported. In 2015 Russia first interceded with military assistance to help Syrian President Bashar al-Assad quash rebels in the Syrian Civil War.
The president of Kazakhstan, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, despite being another Russian ally, refused to recognize Luhansk and Donetsk as “People’s Republics,” however, because he said they were “quasi-states” on Ukrainian occupied territory, noted Ukrainska Pravda via Yahoo! News.
After all, Kazakhstan is another former Soviet republic that Putin might set his eyes on one day.
https://www.dailychatter.com/2022/08/01/the-revanchists-folly/
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Putin's rule is weakening
So what comes next?
Timothy Snyder, Jul 30
It seems to me, from a distance, that Putin's rule is weakening. We now regularly hear from people aside from Putin (for example former prime minister and president Dmitry Medvedev) about the meaning of the war, the catastrophic consequences that await Ukraine and the West, and so forth. This is interesting, because it seems like a sign that Putin is losing control.
Usually the news coverage of such pronouncements focuses on their content. When Medvedev tells us that the war is Poland's fault, or that Ukraine is a Jewish conspiracy, or that this or that action will lead to dreadful consequences, we pay attention. He is playing to a news cycle organized around fear. But the deeper story, I think, is that he and other people aside from Putin now feel authorized to make such colorful proclamations. Before the war there was less of this.
The doom propaganda serves a couple of purposes. On the surface, it shows (or rather seems to show) loyalty to Putin. At a time when Russia is losing the war, the best hope is to convince the West that Russia is somehow unstoppable -- which it isn't. Russia has had to pull back, just in this war, from a great deal of Ukrainian territory. Its forces in the south are in an unenviable situation right now. Russian history, like American history, is littered with defeat in war.
At the same time, the doom propaganda is rhetorical preparation for a power struggle after Putin falls. If Russia loses the war, the people saying radical things now will have protected themselves. For my part, I tend to see the drastic proclamations as evidence that important Russians (Medvedev, also Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov) understand that Russia can lose wars, and is losing this one.
I am not convinced that Medvedev, who for years was seen as the liberal alternative to Putin, believes the anti-Ukrainian, antisemitic, anti-Polish, and anti-Western hate speech he publishes on his Telegram channel. He is creating a profile that might be useful after Putin (just as his technocrat profile was once useful to Putin). Lavrov’s bluster has a similar feel. He doesn’t want to left out of the chorus of celebration of atrocity, but he can’t be bothered to make sense. His recent claim that Russia must annex any territory from which any weapon could reach Russia implies that Russia must keep expanding until it controls the entire surface of the earth.
Another interesting example is Ramzan Kadyrov, who has run Chechnya as his own personal satrapy since he helped Putin win the Second Chechen War. Kadyrov commands a kind of personal armed guard that appears alongside the Russian army in its foreign wars.
In Ukraine, Kadyrov has spoken of the need to take Kyiv, and then has seemed hesitant to risk his men for the less prestigious goals available to the Russian offensive at the moment. According the Russian statistics, Chechen casualties are among the lowest of all the regions, which would be odd, given the presence in Ukraine of a specifically Chechen force. From the perspective of Kadyrov's own interests, though, this would makes sense. His men have to be present in Ukraine, because for now he must seem loyal. But for him it is more important that they be available for a future power struggle in a post-Putin Russia.
It does seem that his mind is now on the future. Kadyrov now proposes that Russia locate air defense systems in Chechnya. His justification is that Ukraine might attack Chechnya, which is not at all credible. He has also announced that a new battalion raised in Chechnya to fight in Ukraine will instead remain in Chechnya. It sounds more like he is preparing for a post-Putin Russia in which Chechnya would claim independence.
Another sign of weakness for Putin is the army itself. The argument over whether Russia is winning or losing can be made in military terms. But the army itself is a source of Putin's political strength. The claim of its eternal invincibility i
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It could be many decades before it is known how many people the Russians murder in Ukraine. For an example from history:
An Unusual Early Life
I was born on July 5, 1928 in Riga, the capital of Latvia, and was very fortunate to have been born into a prominent Latvian family. My father was the Chief of Staff of the Latvian army, and my early childhood was secure, pleasant, and interesting. I attended the excellent French Lycee there, expecting to follow my father into a military career. I am surprised how much motivation and insight they gave besides teaching the basic subject matters.
That good life unfortunately changed when I was about 12 years old. The Soviets occupied Latvia, and in the winter of 1940 my father was arrested. We did not know for years what happened to him. Only after the Soviet Union collapsed in the 1990s and their archives were opened did we find out that my father has been taken to Moscow, tried, convicted, and executed. The Soviet occupation really was very, very brutal.
When Riga fell to the Soviets in 1944, we left by ship and moved to the university town of Marburg an der Lahn in Germany, and I enrolled in a German high school. But this was 1944 and there wasn't much of a school year; every time allied bombers approached there were air raid alerts, and everybody had to proceed to air raid shelters. By 1945 everybody knew the war was lost, and German soldiers surrendered en masse in a disciplined manner.
When the war was over I attended Latvian high schools, first in the English occupation zone, then in the American zone. Travel was very difficult. There were bombed-out bridges where trains had passed over valleys; trains now stopped on one side and you carried your luggage down the valley and up the other side where another train was supposed to be waiting.
More at https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2015/4/184690-an-interview-with-juris-h
artmanis/fulltext
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Lies, lies.
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Quote:Russia has a GDP per capita that is less than a fourth that of Finland. For Russia to manage even that poorly, it has to lie, cheat, steal and murder.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Lies, lies.
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Country comparison Russia vs Finland
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/finland
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Uh huh.
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Quote:There are other ways to compare Russia vs Finland. Where Russia really excels compared to Finland (but not compared to the USA) is not paying taxes, not being educated and number of H-bombs.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh huh.
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https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/compare/russia/finland
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Uh huh.
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Quote:I think you meant "Duh" because the way Russians keep the country running is by over-charging for fuel and, when that doesn't work well enough, invade another country and steal from them.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh huh.
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*yawn*
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Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski
Russia continues its special military operation in Ukraine in a relatively slow manner.
Its military is tasked with the 'demilitarization' and 'denazification' of Ukraine. This task does not require large movements of the front line as the Ukrainian government continues to send fresh troops and nazis units towards the Russian lines. There the Russians reliably maul them without taking significant casualties on their own side.
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The Ukrainian government and its military continue to commit war crimes.
Since a few days the Ukraine is firing missiles with thousands of anti-personal mines into Donetsk city and other population centers in the east. These are not powerful enough to kill but are designed to maim anyone who steps on them or tries to pick them up.
Their color is green and brown so one will hardly see them when they are laying in grass or on rough ground. The Russian's once had similar mines but those deactivated themselves after 24 hours. The Ukrainian ones do not do that. They will still be dangerous months from now. Russia has send hundreds of troops to help with the demining.
MORE AT https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/ukraine-mines-missiles-warcrimes
-and-a-warning-to-zelenski.html#more
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Quote:Ukraine did not kill Ukrainian prisoners. The Russians did it. Russians locked prisoners in a building, then destroyed the building to send a message to Ukrainians fighting Russia.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski
It has been pointed out that the Geneva Convention requires that prisoners be removed far, far away from the battlefield so that these "accidental executions" can't happen. During WWII, America moved POWs all the way to the USA. That means that when Russia has POWs it is suppose to move the POWs over the border into Russia, making sure that prisoners are kept safe. Unlike the USA during WWII, Russian executed POWs or made them slave labor.
The Russians are doing the same to prisoners today as they did in the past, killing prisoners and enslaving prisoners:
German prisoners of war in the Soviet Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Un
ion
German prisoners of war in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_United_St
ates
Distribution of major POW camps
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Quote:So you say. Videos from the scene show wreckage of a short-range HIMARS rocket.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski
SECOND: Ukraine did not kill Ukrainian prisoners. The Russians did it.
If Russia wanted to send a message to Kiev, they would simply video the torture-deaths of prisoners. Yanno, LIKE KIEV DID.
But since RUSSIA called for an imvestigation by the UN and IRC, it's highly unlikely that Russia did this, using a HIMARS (which Kiev says Russia doesn't have). IIRC, Kiev ALSO called for a Red Cross investigation. So this may have been either a rogue right-wing military group in Kiev's army, or the CIA did it.
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Now, about those PETAL mines which were dropped on the civilian population of (Russian controlled) Donersk city...
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Oh, BTW, it is an internationally-recognized fact that KIEV mined the waters around Odessa, preventing grain shipments from leaving. The mines that are now being cleared from around Odessa are KIEV's mines, not Russia's.
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Quote:Stop using the Firehose of Falsehoods, Signym. According to the Geneva Conventions, those prisoners are to be moved outside the zone of battle so there can't be any confusion about how they were killed. But the Russians left the prison inside the zone. But understanding the Geneva Conventions is a little too delicate a mental operation for Russians who have a long history of killing their prisoners. Using prisoners as slave labor. Killing millions of civilians after a peace treaty is signed.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:So you say. Videos from the scene show wreckage of a short-range HIMARS rocket.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski
SECOND: Ukraine did not kill Ukrainian prisoners. The Russians did it.
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. . . the position of the German government, the German Federal Agency for Civic Education and the German Red Cross is that the death toll in the expulsions was between 2.0 and 2.5 million civilians.
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