Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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They have handed out Russian passports, cellphone numbers and set-top boxes for watching Russian television. They have replaced Ukrainian currency with the ruble, rerouted the internet through Russian servers and arrested hundreds who have resisted assimilation.
In ways big and small, the occupying authorities on territory seized by Moscow’s forces are using fear and indoctrination to compel Ukrainians to adopt a Russian way of life. “We are one people,” blue-white-and-red billboards say. “We are with Russia.”
Now comes the next act in President Vladimir V. Putin’s 21st-century version of a war of conquest: the grass-roots “referendum.”
Russia-appointed administrators in towns, villages and cities like Kherson in Ukraine’s south are setting the stage for a vote as early as September that the Kremlin will present as a popular desire in the region to become part of Russia. They are recruiting pro-Russia locals for new “election commissions” and promoting to Ukrainian civilians the putative benefits of joining their country; they are even reportedly printing the ballots already.
Any referendum would be totally illegitimate, Ukrainian and Western officials say, but it would carry ominous consequences. Analysts both in Moscow and Ukraine expect that it would serve as a prelude to Mr. Putin’s officially declaring the conquered area to be Russian territory, protected by Russian nuclear weapons — making future attempts by Kyiv to drive out Russian forces potentially much more costly.
Annexation would also represent Europe’s biggest territorial expansion by force since World War II, affecting an area several times larger than Crimea, the Ukrainian peninsula that Mr. Putin took over in 2014.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220803071643/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/07/30/world/europe/russia-occupation-ukraine-kherson.html
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He sure doesn't know Ukrainians very well. All the pencil pushers and forms and bombs will never make Ukrainians *accept* being Russian.
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Nobody cares.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
With Russia showing signs of benefitting from a volatile and chaotic energy trade since its invasion of Ukraine, some have wondered if Western sanctions on the country have backfired — but measures to choke Russia's economy have been working in an unexpected way, top economist Paul Krugman says, and history suggests the West that will come out on top in the economic struggle.
"Russia is having no problem selling stuff, but it's having a lot of trouble buying stuff," Krugman wrote in an op-ed for the New York Times on Tuesday, noting that although Western nations have fixated on capping Russian exports, limitations on Russian imports have been wreaking havoc on Moscow's economy.
It's a departure from the intent of the original plan, which aimed to curb Russia's war revenue through energy bans and a possible a price cap on Russia energy, which Western leaders are looking to propose by year-end.
But that hasn't gone according to plan, and data shows Russia pulled in $24 billion in energy exports the first three months of war alone, and has been limiting supply to Western nations to drive up energy prices, tipping economies in Europe close to a recession. Since the start of Ukraine's invasion, Brent crude is up 8% to $101.96 as of 8:40 am ET and natural gas is up 70% to $7.81.
But import side of the equation tells a different story. Bans on selling to Russia have lowered Russia's trade volume with sanctioning countries by 60% and non-sanctioning countries by 40%, Krugman pointed out.
That's led to a dramatic decrease in Russia's industrial production and relatedly, its GDP. According to the Peterson Economic Institute, production in the country has fallen as much as 50% for goods ranging from plastic to coal to household appliances.
"So economic sanctions against Russia appear to have been surprisingly effective, just not in the way everyone expected," Krugman said.
He added that historically, previous attempts at economic warfare have been unsuccessful, unless they involved a military effort, such as the US sinking Japanese merchant shipments in World War II, causing the Japanese economy to tank.
That provides some optimism as Russia continues to slash energy supplies from Europe — suggesting that despite the attempts at retaliation, the country will struggle to come out on top against the West.
But Krugman acknowledged the fight would be affected by factors like inflation and high recession risks, which currently have the West in a difficult position. The Federal Reserve issued a 75-point rate hike last week to combat inflation running at 41-year highs, and the European Central Bank issued an aggressive half-point hike a few weeks ago to combat sky high prices and weakening economic sentiment.
However, Europe in particular still faces even greater difficulties ahead as the continent braces for winter without the normal flow of Russian gas supplies.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220804002938/https://markets.businessins
ider.com/news/commodities/russia-energy-sanctions-oil-natural-gas-western-war-paul-krugman-2022-8
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are a Nobody.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
Proud nobody.
P.S. So are you. Although I bet it eats you up inside.
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Quote:Does it seem to you that SECOND is posting more personal potshots at us?
6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
SECOND: You are a Nobody.
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Quote:YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
He sure doesn't know Ukrainians very well. All the pencil pushers and forms and bombs will never make Ukrainians *accept* being Russian.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
He sure doesn't know Ukrainians very well. All the pencil pushers and forms and bombs will never make Ukrainians *accept* being Russian.
One million Russian bots shut down in raid. I was hoping they got sig. Next time I guess.
tick tock sig, tick tock...
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Quote:Remember Trump's income tax evasion? The most he ever paid in the last 20 years was $750 that one time? 6ix says nobody cares. 6ix doesn't pay income tax so why should his hero pay? Signym said there is no law requiring Trump to prove he hasn't cheated on his income taxes. Until there is "proof" (a word Signym uses far too often) there is no "logical" (another word Signym uses too often) reason to condemn Trump for cheating. Using much the same thinking, neither 6ix nor Signym are concerned about Russians murdering Ukrainians and destroying Ukrainian real estate because there is no "proof" that Russians will go on to nuke the world if NATO interferes with the murdering done by Russians nor "proof" that "logically" Russians are committing war crimes. It is all hearsay and lies from biased mainstream media, which does not accept the "truth" that Russians are fighting Nazis wherever they are. Or as 6ix has said, the real enemy is NATO, which his heroic President Trump wanted to withdraw from, but he couldn't justify it, despite Putin wishing it could be done.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Does it seem to you that SECOND is posting more personal potshots at us?
6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
SECOND: You are a Nobody.
Signym and 6ix, are you detecting sarcasm? "Logically", you have no "proof". It is hearsay and lies from the M$M.
Donald Trump 'paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017'
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54319948
John Bolton says 'Putin was waiting' for Trump to withdraw the United States from NATO in his second term
https://web.archive.org/web/20220711113718/https://www.businessinsider
.com/bolton-putin-waiting-for-trump-to-withdraw-from-nato-in-2nd-term-2022-3
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Putin's escape plan revealed if he loses the war in Ukraine, here's where he could seek asylum
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-escape-plan-if-russia-los
es-the-war-in-ukraine/ss-AA10ihev
https://sot.com.al/english/bota/zbulohet-plani-i-arratisjes-se-putin-n
ese-humb-luften-ne-ukraine-ja-ku-mund-i528631
A 'spy' from Moscow has revealed the plan of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who says that he and his friends are preparing to flee Russia if his army is defeated in Ukraine.
According to a channel on Telegram, this bombastic revelation comes from inside the Kremlin, from a source who also claims that the Russian President is suffering from numerous health problems.
With Moscow's Donbas offensive stalling, Ukraine preparing to retake occupied Kherson and seeing its economy crumble, the Russian dictator is "aware of the possibility of a sharp mood swing in the country, in the event of total failure .
Last week, the General SVR channel reported that the 69-year-old had suffered from 'severe nausea' during the night, with doctors allegedly staying at his bedside for around three hours.
Following that report, they claim that 'Putin himself and his entourage are preparing plans to evacuate Russia'.
Any plane carrying Putin and his family out of Russia is thought to be going to Syria, the closest friendly country and whose leader, Bashar al-Assad, Putin saved by intervening in the civil war in 2015.
However, any flight from Russia to Syria would have to pass through the airspace of Turkey, a NATO member state.
If Turkey's strongman leader, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, were to refuse permission for the plane of Putin and his family to enter his airspace, it would effectively disrupt the fastest and perhaps only route to escape of the Russian tyrant.
Erdogan and Putin have a complex relationship, having been friends and foes at various times over the past decade as each leader tries to navigate their country through a challenging geopolitical quarter.
Iran is another regional power and Western foe that would be interested in Putin's fate.
Translation from Albanian:
Quote:Meanwhile, Ukrainian forces were said yesterday to be gaining momentum near the occupied city of Kherson. Airstrikes have destroyed several bridges, leaving the remaining Russian troops trapped, and a counter-offensive to retake the only major city Russia managed to capture is expected in the coming weeks.
"In principle, it is useful for Iran and Turkey to keep the Russian president in exile in reserve, using him, depending on the situation, as a lever or as a bargaining chip," the Telegram channel noted.
Although Turkey is a member of the Western military alliance, under the leadership of Erdogan, the country has cut its own diplomatic path in international relations. Earlier this month, Putin met with his Turkish and Iranian counterparts in Tehran, ostensibly to discuss Syria.
It is not too much of a stretch to imagine that Erdogan and Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi privately discussed the possibility of Putin seeking asylum in the event of a coup or pro-revolutionary demonstrations in Moscow.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Does it seem to you that SECOND is posting more personal potshots at us?
6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
SECOND: You are a Nobody.
Yes.
He's certainly on tilt. I can only imagine what real-world issues are plaguing him right now.
Did you see his latest assassination fantasy this morning?
I hope his parents see whatever he's going through and get him help before he goes Highland Park on anyone.
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6IXSTRINGJACK: Nobody cares.
SECOND: You are a Nobody.
SIGNY: Does it seem to you that SECOND is posting more personal potshots at us?
SECOND... TRUMP! blah blah blah .... Trump blah blah blah...
Signym said there is no law requiring Trump to prove he hasn't cheated on his income taxes.
WRONG. Citizens have to submit their information TO THE IRS. TRUMP has to submit his info TO THE IRS.
He's done that. There is no law requiring that Trump show US his tax info. The only people who need to see his tax info ALREADY HAVE IT and that is THE IRS.
Quote:WRONG.
SEOND: Until there is "proof" (a word Signym uses far too often)...
I don't use the word "proof" I use the word EVIDENCE. AFA evidence of tax cheaing, if there is EVIDENCE then the IRS already has it.
Quote:
SECOND: there is no "logical" (another word Signym uses too often) to condemn Trump ...
WRONG.
I don't use the word "logical".
There is no REASON to condemn Trump.
Why??
Because it's in our Constitution: Yanno, something about "innocent until proven guilty"
You really hate the USA and our Constitution, don't you?
Quote:
SECOND: Using much the same thinking, neither 6ix nor Signym are concerned about Russians murdering Ukrainians
Another bad assumption on your part.
Your post goes on to make a whole raft of bad assumptions and faulty thinking
Quote:No evidence, you mean. Just like TRUMP!RUSSIA!COLLUSION! and IRAQWMD! and ASSADGASSING! and QADDAFIMASSACRING! and QUIDPROQUO! there are just accusations being spouted by people who have been proven to have lied in the past.
SECOND: ...destroying Ukrainian real estate because there is no "proof" that Russians will go on to nuke the world if NATO interferes with the murdering done by Russians nor "proof" that "logically" Russians are committing war crimes.
I don't take what liars say very seriously.
Do you?
Well, of course you do.
Quote:If only you would recognize this truth.
SECOND: It is all hearsay and lies from biased mainstream media,
ALL MEDIA LIES. Ours, theirs, somebody else's. Some lie worse than others. OURS publish giant, juicy whoppers.
Sussing out truth should be part of your responsibility as an educated citizen of the USA.
(PS, There is no such thing as "citizen of the world". Did you ever vote for a worldwide office or carry a world passport? The whole concept is a crock.)
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Quote:You have truly revealed that you don't care that Trump didn't pay his taxes. The IRS has revealed that $1 trillion in taxes aren't collected from the wealthy each year. That's Trump. Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions while Trump paid $750. Apparently, Trumptards are convinced by Trump's empty claims he paid. He could prove it with one phone call to his tax accountants, but Trump won't make the call.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WRONG. Citizens have to submit their information TO THE IRS. TRUMP has to submit his info TO THE IRS.
He's done that. There is no law requiring that Trump show US his tax info. The only people who need to see his tax info ALREADY HAVE IT and that is THE IRS.
When Billionaires Don’t Pay Taxes, People “Lose Faith in Democracy”
https://www.propublica.org/article/when-billionaires-dont-pay-taxes-pe
ople-lose-faith-in-democracy
Ten Ways Billionaires Avoid Taxes on an Epic Scale
https://www.propublica.org/article/billionaires-tax-avoidance-techniqu
es-irs-files
What is connection to Putin? Trumptards are satisfied with Putin's claims he is not killing children despite the proof he does kill children.
Signym -- Accept Putin's word as you accept Trump's word. Why would either tell a lie and sully their sterling reputations? Sorry, I forgot that both have told thousands of major lies including Putin claiming he paid his taxes despite a net worth in the billions of euros, dollars, rubles, whatever. https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+net+worth
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SIGNYM:
WRONG. Citizens have to submit their information TO THE IRS. TRUMP has to submit his info TO THE IRS.
He's done that. There is no law requiring that Trump show US his tax info. The only people who need to see his tax info ALREADY HAVE IT and that is THE IRS.[
SECOND: You have truly revealed that you don't care that Trump didn't pay his taxes. The IRS has revealed that $1 trillion in taxes aren't collected from the wealthy each year. That's Trump.
SECOND, your bullshit is boring.
Many wealthy people do not pay taxes bc the IRS can't afford to scrutinize every wealthy person's extremely complex tax returns with all of their shell corporations and foundations and tax loopholes.
TRUMP IS A SPECIAL CASE. Bc of his highly visible political position, HIS tax returns get special attention. He is being audited by the IRS. At some point, they wi reach a determination.
If you believe that Trump will get special favors from the IRS.... well, that's the IRS' fault. Not Trump's.
Quote:Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's?
Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions
Name some.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Cites? Putin's daughter doesn't count.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Cites? Putin's daughter doesn't count.
Cites? Your mom doesn't count.
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Quote:I provided cites back then, dimwit. That's when Yanukovich was elected. There was a region-by-region breakdown of who voted for whom, and its correlation to the Russian-speaking population.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YOU don't know Ukrainians vey well. I posted right at the beginning of this ... 2014-ish or so ... that a significant minority (appx 30-35%) of Ukrainians speak Russian and don't want to *accept* being "Ukrainian".
Cites? Putin's daughter doesn't count.
Sorry if facts just slip out of your brain. But that's your problem. I don't intend to make it mine.
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I provided cites back then, dimwit.
Prove it, Karen.
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
That's when Yanukovich was elected. There was a region-by-region breakdown of who voted for whom, and its correlation to the Russian-speaking population.
Who did the breakdown? You mean Putin's puppet was elected? The guy Paul Manafort - Trump's early campaign manager - worked for? And we're suppose to believe that wasn't a stolen election? Funny.
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Sorry if facts just slip out of your brain. But that's your problem. I don't intend to make it mine.
Huh?
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Sorry if facts just slip out of your brain. But that's your problem. I don't intend to make it mine.
Huh?
She's telling you to educate yourself.
Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
Don't pretend you're not familiar with it.
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Quote:THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's?
Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions
Name some.
Inside the Tax Records of the .001%
https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files
ProPublica does not have Trump's income tax returns because Trump learned from infamous Roy Cohn, who never paid taxes and was Joe McCarthy's lawyer. McCarthy is infamous for McCarthyism. By the way, Signym, the IRS could put a thousand auditors on Trump's income tax returns but his income is whatever he says it is and the auditors won't be able to prove differently. In the case of real estate taxes, not income taxes, the government tells Trump what his taxes are and Trump is in no position to prove differently.
Back to Russia/Ukraine and The Upside of Putin’s Delusions
His failed and spectacularly counterproductive war seems unlikely to augur a new era of interstate war.
Some analysts now fear that the long decline of interstate war may be about to reverse. In an article for The Economist published shortly before the Russian invasion, the Israeli writer Yuval Noah Harari declared the decline in international war to be “the greatest political and moral achievement of modern civilization.” But he also worried that a war in Ukraine could bring about “a return to the law of the jungle.” In an essay published in May in Foreign Affairs, the political scientist Tanisha Fazal expressed concern that Putin’s war could result in “an increase in not only the incidence but also the brutality of war.”
But five months into the current phase of the war in Ukraine, it seems more likely that Putin’s venture will reinforce and revitalize the aversion to and disdain for international war. The key objective is not so much about winning as making sure that the country that started the war is far worse off than if it had not done so. That has already been substantially achieved.
More at https://www.cato.org/commentary/upside-putins-delusions
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
What?
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
What?
Don't be coy. That's what the ladies with blue checkmarks on Twitter are known as. And the "educate yourself" tactic is what they're known for. You know this.
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SECOND: ]Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions
SIGNY: Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's?
Name some.
SECOND: THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica
Inside the Tax Records of the .001%
https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files
Yanno, that's funny SECOND because YOUR LINK says otherwise, right below the title
Quote:and it contiunes
ProPublica has obtained a vast cache of IRS information showing how billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth — sometimes, even nothing.
Quote:
In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes.
Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row.
I didn't go any further intoyour post, bc if you lied in your first post and doubled down in your second post, why should I bother reading more?
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Anger From Ukraine's Backers After Damning Amnesty Report Spotlights 'Human Shields'
Friday, Aug 05, 2022 - 02:45 AM
Amnesty International has in a surprise shift placed its human rights scrutiny on Ukraine in a fresh report released Thursday. It immediately sparked a firestorm of criticism as both Western pundits and Kiev officials themselves blasted the findings as "unfair".
The Amnesty report said investigators had "found evidence of Ukrainian forces launching strikes from within populated residential areas, as well as basing themselves in civilian buildings in 19 towns and villages" in three war-torn regions of the country from April through July.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/anger-ukraines-backers-after-da
mning-amnesty-report-spotlights-human-shields
The original report can be found here
Quote:
Ukraine: military endangering civilians by locating forces in residential areas - new research
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ukraine-military-endangering
-civilians-locating-forces-residential-areas-new
I'm sure that CAPON and SECOND and THUGR will "forget" in two hours that this was ever an issue.
But what this portends is that the deep state (which Amnesty is linked to) is in theprocess of scraping off Ukraine. You will probably see the CIA and/or WH start to criticize Ukraine's/Zelenskiy's military strategy (even tho micromanaged by USA and UK neocons) and expose Ukrainian corruption.
Bc now that thing are going badly (for them) in Ukraine, they want to turn the spotlight to China. This, too, was predicted. Altho our happy-camper trio has "forgotten" that, too.
Pretty soon you'll be mouth-breathing RUSSIARUSSIA! in a vacuum, bc even our deep state nd "international partners" will be backing away from this clusterfuck.
All the rah-rah-ism in the world can't make up for lack of contingeny planning. It never occurred to our tank-brained neocons that their schemes might not work. And Taiwan is just another seat-of-the-pants effort. I wonder how THAT will turn out.
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Quote:The deal is that Trump paid over two decades a total of only a few thousand dollars. In two recent years (2016, 2017) he only paid $750, but his entire tax returns for two decades are mysterious, only the total he paid in a few recent years. Bezos had low to no tax years, too, but he has paid $billions, and his entire tax returns, not just one number in one year, were available to ProPublic, while Trump, over the same years paid only $thousands and his tax forms remain invisible. Putin has the same setup as Trump, which is nice if you are a multi-billionaire paying only what an ordinary person would pay.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SECOND: ]Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions
SIGNY: Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's?
Name some.
SECOND: THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica
Inside the Tax Records of the .001%
https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files
Yanno, that's funny SECOND because YOUR LINK says otherwise, right below the titleQuote:and it contiunes
ProPublica has obtained a vast cache of IRS information showing how billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth — sometimes, even nothing.Quote:
In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes.
Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row.
Quote:Now I finally understand what is going on with you, Signym. I read an article on taxes and, because I'm an engineer, I understand it the way an accountant or engineer understands it. Signym reads it and obviously misreads the article in a way that makes Trump look good. You do exactly the same with Russia, not reading or misreading simple and straight forward stories in way that makes Russia look good. Then you accuse the journalists of lying. I bet not knowing doesn't work as well as you think it does, Signym. But you will never know the difference, will you? You are Invincible! (As are many Russians about Ukraine.)
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't go any further intoyour post, bc if you lied in your first post and doubled down in your second post, why should I bother reading more?
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SECOND: Other rich people's tax returns are published, revealing that they paid $billions
SIGNY: Really? Whose? Zuckerberg's? Gates'? Bezos'? Buffet's?
Name some.
SECOND: THE SECRET IRS FILES at ProPublica
Inside the Tax Records of the .001%
https://www.propublica.org/series/the-secret-irs-files
SIGNY: Yanno, that's funny SECOND because YOUR LINK says otherwise, right below the titleQuote:and it continues
ProPublica has obtained a vast cache of IRS information showing how billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth — sometimes, even nothing.Quote:
In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes.
Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row.
SECOND: The deal is that Trump paid over two decades a total of only a few thousand dollars. In two recent years (2016, 2017) he only paid $750, but his entire tax returns for two decades are mysterious ...
Besides, if his tax returns for 20 years are "mysterious", how can you claim to know that he paid only "a few thousand"?
You CAN'T. Either you know, or you're just making shit up.
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... only the total he paid in a few recent years. Bezos had low to no tax years, too, but he has paid $billions
The article does NOT say that, it just doesn't. What it says about Bezos specifically is
Quote:So, in one year he paid a billion in total taxes, and in other years he paid nothing.
Consider Bezos’ 2007, one of the years he paid zero in federal income taxes. Amazon’s stock more than doubled. Bezos’ fortune leapt $3.8 billion, according to Forbes, whose wealth estimates are widely cited. How did a person enjoying that sort of wealth explosion end up paying no income tax?
Total [not income, total] Taxes Paid:
$973M (0.98% of wealth)
In that year, Bezos, who filed his taxes jointly with his then-wife, MacKenzie Scott, reported a paltry (for him) $46 million in income, largely from interest and dividend payments on outside investments. He was able to offset every penny he earned with losses from side investments and various deductions, like interest expenses on debts and the vague catchall category of “other expenses.”
In 2011, a year in which his wealth held roughly steady at $18 billion, Bezos filed a tax return reporting he lost money — his income that year was more than offset by investment losses. What’s more, because, according to the tax law, he made so little, [u[]he even claimed and received a $4,000 tax credit for his children.
His tax avoidance is even more striking if you examine 2006 to 2018, a period for which ProPublica has complete data. Bezos’ wealth increased by $127 billion, according to Forbes, but he reported a total of $6.5 billion in income. The $1.4 billion he paid in personal federal taxes is a massive number — yet it amounts to a 1.1% true tax rate on the rise in his fortune.
Consider Warren Buffet
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No one among the 25 wealthiest avoided as much tax as Buffett, the grandfatherly centibillionaire. That’s perhaps surprising, given his public stance as an advocate of higher taxes for the rich. According to Forbes, his riches rose $24.3 billion between 2014 and 2018. Over those years, the data shows, Buffett reported paying $23.7 million in taxes.
$23.7M (0.10% of wealth)
Trump's wealth, by contrast, is small compared to the wealthiest of the wealthy: somewhere between 1/10 and 1/100 of these centibillionaires. Consequently, his tax liabilities would be less too.
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SECOND: while Trump, over the same years paid only $thousa
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Trump's taxes are the least hidden and the most high-profile taxes the IRS have been dealing with in decades.
Anybody still talking about Trump's taxes as if he cheated on them and pulled one over on the IRS is a fucking idiot.
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SECOND is simply dragging a red herring across the trail (to mix metaphors) to distract from
UKRAINE GUILTY OF USING HUMAN SHIELDS
Now, here's another interesting development
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan claims that Russia is “capable of just about anything”
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Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, stated on Friday that Washington was concerned about President Vladimir Zelensky’s safety. Sullivan stated that Zelensky’s security is being supported by the US.
“President Zelensky’s personal safety is something that concerns us,”Sullivan spoke at the Aspen Security Forum, Colorado. “This is a leader in wartime, dealing with an enemy in Russia that is ruthless, brutal and capable of just about anything.”
https://www.massnews.com/us-concerned-about-zelenskys-safety-analysis/
Since when did THAT become a topic of conversation? Since everything our State department says lately has been projection, are they planning on Z's timely demise, with Russia as the ready-made excuse? Is Z to be thrown under the bus?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
What?
It's the booze G.
T
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
What?
It's the booze G.
T
Or dope. Mouth breather spends all day soaking up hate on the Internet and then repeats whatever he can remember thinking it actually means something or matters.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yanno... Common Leftoid pink haired potbelly vampire goblin tactic.
What?
It's the booze G.
T
Or dope. Mouth breather spends all day soaking up hate on the Internet and then repeats whatever he can remember thinking it actually means something or matters.
Awwwww.... Ted's got a little bitch friend on the board now.
Sober for 5 years and months. Haven't smoked weed in at least 7. Try again.
Speaking of things that mean nothing and don't matter at all, here we are in this stupid thread.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Meanwhile, in reality...
The median rent costs $2000 a month; Median mortgage $1,200 (We'll split the difference and call that $1,600 I'm not paying), Median car payment $700, $140 car insurance (we'll call it $127 a month I'm not paying since I do pay $125 every six months for liability), $110 average monthly credit card payment, Average student debt payment $393, Average cell phone bill $114, Average cable bill $217 (We'll call it $197 since I only pay for internet and I got them down to $20 per month). I'm sure I'm missing other things that I'm not paying for. I certainly haven't even added gasoline to this list, of which I hardly pay for at all either. That's okay... I already have enough to illustrate my point at $3,241 per month worth of bills I don't have.
Well... not MISSING them.
There's 251 working days in the US in a year (if you include holidays, which I will even though the only jobs I've had in the last 13 years didn't).
251 / 12 is roughly 20.92. We'll just call it 21 working days in a month.
$3,241 / 21 = $270.01
Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave.
Do the math yourself to figure out how much income that would be in a year and you'll get a number higher than I've ever made in a single year in my life, before taxes... And I can imagine most Americans can say the same thing, which is why we need two adults working in most households and they still rack up credit card debt to "pay" for everything.
I'm going to go wrap up the electric in my garage and clean it all up. I've got to have a spot to put the brand new shiny shed door that I bought with cash to sit until my friend's dad comes over to pay off some of the favors he owes me and we get it installed.
Have fun today at work to pay off all that shit you bought that you don't need for anything other than to impress your rich Democrat "friends", honey.
"Yup. I'm going to make $270.01 today, tax free, simply by not being a wage slave."
Hilarious. No, you're not going to make it. Go ahead, take that money that you "made" and buy something with it. Get some gas and tell the attendant the same story. "Look here buddy, I made $270 dollars today by not being a wage slave, so have some for the gas I just put in my car."
Here, let me make you even richer: think of all the money you "made" by not having a wife and kids. Not having to pay for college, no weddings, no clothes or food. No divorce proceedings (just in case), no vacations, no dining out, no bigger house, no second car, on and on. You add it all up and you might be the richest person in your county.
Oh. Somehow I missed this one. Pretty small brained of you, Cap'n.
I can go right ahead and spend that money I made not paying for wage slave bullshit, because I'm not a wage slave and I have plenty of money that isn't being spent on wage slave bullshit. Interest and high monthly bills for consumables I don't need for sure, but yeah... including the expenses that come with a wife and kids since you mention it.
I just bought me a years worth of cereal on sale for $56, shipped free to my home, so I didn't even have to use any of the gas in the tank. 480oz of it, to be exact. If I paid what the local grocery stores wanted me to pay for that exact same product in much smaller boxes, it would have cost me over $187 for the same amount. So yeah. That's another $131 I made this week by not doing that, plus the gas money I saved on not making a trip.
As far as my house, not only is it paid for, but it's been paid for so long now that had I been renting since I bought it I would have spent more on rent in that time than I did for the house and have absolutely nothing to show for it, not to mention th
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Where we were on Ukraine...
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Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND is simply dragging a red herring across the trail (to mix metaphors) to distract from
UKRAINE GUILTY OF USING HUMAN SHIELDS
Now, here's another interesting development
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan claims that Russia is “capable of just about anything”Quote:
Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, stated on Friday that Washington was concerned about President Vladimir Zelensky’s safety. Sullivan stated that Zelensky’s security is being supported by the US.
“President Zelensky’s personal safety is something that concerns us,”Sullivan spoke at the Aspen Security Forum, Colorado. “This is a leader in wartime, dealing with an enemy in Russia that is ruthless, brutal and capable of just about anything.”
https://www.massnews.com/us-concerned-about-zelenskys-safety-analysis/
Since when did THAT become a topic of conversation? Since everything our State department says lately has been projection, are they planning on Z's timely demise, with Russia as the ready-made excuse? Is Z to be thrown under the bus?
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The first two pages of Zerohedge had NOTHING about Ukraine, and since they're a news aggregator that looks for click bait, that tells me there's no juicy headlines in the M$M, or anywhere else about Ukraine.
Maybe it's bc the front line is static right now: the Russians are consolidating their gains (de-mining, getting rid of unexploded ordnance, clearing tunnels, bunkers and trenches etc) and that Ukrainian offensive we've been hearing about since whenever (supposed to start tomorrow, rumor has it.) hasn't started yet.
Or maybe they're just trying to memory-hole the whole topic and replace it with "CHINA!CHINA!" ?
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Quote:Signym, how did Zerohedge miss this?
Originally posted by SignyM:
The first two pages of Zerohedge had NOTHING about Ukraine, and since they're a news aggregator that looks for click bait, that tells me there's no juicy headlines in the M$M, or anywhere else about Ukraine.
Maybe it's bc the front line is static right now: the Russians are consolidating their gains (de-mining, getting rid of unexploded ordnance, clearing tunnels, bunkers and trenches etc) and that Ukrainian offensive we've been hearing about since whenever (supposed to start tomorrow, rumor has it.) hasn't started yet.
Or maybe they're just trying to memory-hole the whole topic and replace it with "CHINA!CHINA!" ?
‘Absolute evil’: Inside the Russian prison camp where dozens of Ukrainians burned to death | August 6, 2022
The Observer reports:
Screams from soldiers being tortured, overflowing cells, inhuman conditions, a regime of intimidation and murder. Inedible gruel, no communication with the outside world, and days marked off with a home-made calendar written on a box of tea.
This, according to a prisoner who was there, is what conditions are like inside Olenivka, the notorious detention centre outside Donetsk where dozens of Ukrainian soldiers burned to death in a horrific episode late last month while in Russian captivity.
Anna Vorosheva – a 45-year-old Ukrainian entrepreneur – gave a harrowing account to the Observer of her time inside the jail. She spent 100 days in Olenivka after being detained in mid-March at a checkpoint run by the pro-Russian Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) in eastern Ukraine.
She had been trying to deliver humanitarian supplies to Mariupol, her home city, which the Russian army had besieged. The separatists arrested her and drove her in a packed police van to the prison, where she was held until early July on charges of “terrorism”.
Now recovering in France, Vorosheva said she had no doubt Russia “cynically and deliberately” murdered Ukrainian prisoners of war. “We are talking about absolute evil,” she said.
[Continue reading…]
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/06/russian-prison-camp-ukra
inians-deaths-donetsk
By the way, Signym, Russia killed millions of German civilians after the peace treaty was signed in WWII. Russia denies it. I'm pretty sure Russia will deny torturing and killing Ukrainian civilians, too!
Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–1950)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2
%80%931950)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:I suspect that Signym will care enough to declare that Russia does not torture and kill Ukrainian prisoners and that Russia did not torture and kill millions of German civilians after the peace treaty ending WWII was signed. Signym might even say, "What about prisoners in Guantanamo?" Signym won't mention that President Bush ordered the torture, to be renamed enhanced interrogation. Nor will Signym mention that Republican Congressmen have prevented Guantanamo from being shutdown by Democratic Presidents.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
“Enhanced Interrogation” Explained
https://www.humanrightsfirst.org/sites/default/files/Enhanced-Interrog
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I can go right ahead and spend that money I made not paying for wage slave bullshit, because I'm not a wage slave and I have plenty of money that isn't being spent on wage slave bullshit. Interest and high monthly bills for consumables I don't need for sure, but yeah... including the expenses that come with a wife and kids since you mention it.
What a dummy. You couldn't afford those things in the first place, so no, you don't have that money to spend now. "I saved a bundle not buying that Rolex with money I don't have." fck Math
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"I just bought me a years worth of cereal on sale for $56, shipped free to my home, so I didn't even have to use any of the gas in the tank. 480oz of it, to be exact."
Wow! You saved a bundle on cereal. GOALS!
And these next 2 lines together are some of the funniest sht I don't think you meant to post:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"Time is money, and I've turned making money work for you into an art form."
Me? It's going to be really hot again tomorrow. I'll be napping.
Sleeping as an art form. One: You don't get the quote, and Mr. "Time is Money" is sleeping in because it's too hot. I hope your pillow is comfy enough for you, princess.
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Quote:The Biden administration announced another $1 billion in new military aid for Ukraine on Monday, pledging what will be the biggest yet delivery of rockets, ammunition and other arms straight from Department of Defense stocks for Ukrainian forces.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
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Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/
article264295201.html#storylink=cpy
Aug 8 (Reuters) - The United States will provide an additional $4.5 billion to Ukraine's government, bringing its total budgetary support since Russia's February invasion to $8.5 billion, the U.S. Agency for International Development said on Monday.
The funding, coordinated with the U.S. Treasury Department through the World Bank, will go to the Ukraine government in tranches, beginning with a $3 billion disbursement in August, USAID, the Agency for International Development, said.
It follows previous transfers of $1.7 billion in July and $1.3 billion in June, USAID said. Washington has also provided billions of dollars in military support, and plans a new $1 billion weapons package shortly. read more
The U.S. funds are to help the Ukrainian government maintain essential functions, including social and financial assistance for the growing poor population, children with disabilities, and millions of internally displaced persons, as the war drags on.
Ukrainian officials estimate the country faces a $5 billion-a-month fiscal shortfall - or 2.5% of pre-war gross domestic product - due to the cost of the war and declining tax revenues. Economists say that will swell Ukraine's annual deficit to 25% of GDP, compared with 3.5% before the conflict.
The World Bank estimates that 55% of Ukrainians will be living in poverty by the end of 2023 as a result of the war and the large numbers of displaced persons, compared with 2.5% before the start of the war.
USAID said U.S. budget support has enabled the Ukrainian government to keep gas and electricity flowing to hospitals, schools and other critical infrastructure and deliver urgently needed humanitarian supplies to citizens.
The funds have also paid for healthcare workers, teachers and other civil servants.
USAID said robust safeguards had been put in place by the World Bank, along with USAID-funded, third-party watchdogs embedded within the Ukrainian government to make sure the funds are directed where they are meant to go.
"The United States remains committed to supporting Ukraine and its people in the wake of Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified war," USAID said in a statement.
The injection of fresh cash for Ukraine comes as the war, which Russia calls "a special military operation," stretches into a sixth month, with millions of Ukrainians displaced and authorities warning of likely gas shortages in winter.
USAID is an independent federal agency that receives overall foreign policy guidance from the Secretary of State.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-us-send-45-billion-more
-ukraine-budget-needs-2022-08-08/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I can go right ahead and spend that money I made not paying for wage slave bullshit, because I'm not a wage slave and I have plenty of money that isn't being spent on wage slave bullshit. Interest and high monthly bills for consumables I don't need for sure, but yeah... including the expenses that come with a wife and kids since you mention it.
What a dummy. You couldn't afford those things in the first place, so no, you don't have that money to spend now. "I saved a bundle not buying that Rolex with money I don't have." fck Math
I've got plenty of money in the bank. I could easily buy a brand new coal burning car with cash and have enough leftover for another one.
Or I could just not worry about cost of living expenses for another 15 years with it.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"I just bought me a years worth of cereal on sale for $56, shipped free to my home, so I didn't even have to use any of the gas in the tank. 480oz of it, to be exact."
Wow! You saved a bundle on cereal. GOALS!
Yeah. Now do that with everything else that I need to live, all of my DIY tools and materials, and add the fact that I pay zero interest on anything, have zero credit card debt, have a paid for house with no mortgage, have a paid for car with an extremely small 6 month car insurance premium, I live in an area with extremely low property tax rates as well as a zero food sales tax and low sales tax otherwise, $20/mo for internet and all my entertainment needs, a VOIP phone that's paid for another 6 years, and no pricey per-month cell phone contract for that phone that does 90% of your thinking for you, and it all adds up to something. Something pretty big.
I get deals like this all the time on nearly everything I buy. It's because I have money to buy bulk sales when they occur, I have the free time in a day to seek the best deals out, I have plenty of space to warehouse it if the purchase needs to be large, and I'm a forward thinker that puts future needs ahead of immediate and pricey impulse buys. And that even includes working on my house. I've still got 12 unopened gallons of paint that I bought at a criminally low price last fall, a few door knobs and hinges for doors that I still haven't gotten around to painting, and about $1,000 more worth of pine baseboard and trim from a batch worth over $2,250 that I got for less than $200 when the line went on clearance in November of 2019. Which, incidentally, I paid for with a new credit card I'd opened that gave me $200 on my next statement as soon as I spent $1,500 in the first 90 days.... so not only was it free but I made money off of it.
Think about it. How many hours per year do you have to work for all of those things plus the crap you buy that you don't need after you've paid SS/Medicare, FED and State/Local Taxes, and you subtract how much you had to spend on gasoline for the trips back and forth after deducting all of those same taxes first?
How many hours per year do you work just to pay off interest payments and your mortgage? Have you ever even looked? Do you even want to know?
Probably not.
Sure... I'm not adding physical money to my stack by doing any of this, but it's all about implied value. All of those hours you just calculated to pay for all of that stuff above are hours every year that I just simply don't need to be working for somebody else. I'm already FAR ahead of you, and I haven't had to report to a boss in over 3 years now.
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And these next 2 lines together are some of the funniest sht I don't think you meant to post:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"Time is money, and I've turned making money work for you into an art form."
Me? It's going to be really hot again tomorrow. I'
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My daily cost of living expenses are about $12.25 right now. Don't lie. You spent more that that on lunch today, didn't you...
Fuck yeah I did. I'm not a broke, lazy ass troll like you are.
Money in the bank? Making what, 1/4 of a percent interest? And you're bragging about that? Lying or stupid - or both.
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Quote:SIX has savings. Do you? Or are you living on credit?
CAPON: Fuck yeah I did. I'm not a broke,
Quote:SIX accomplishes more in one week that you do in a year. I don't see the things YOU'VE built or repaired. The neighbors and relatives you've helped. The neighborhood you've improved.
CAPON: ...lazy ass
All you do is twiddle a keyboard.
How lazy is THAT?
Quote:And here you are, being a troll. How droll.
CAPON:... troll
Quote:Three lies, in one short phrase.
CAPON: like you are.
I think you've set a new record!
But aT least you've stopped lying and calling him a drunk dope-smoker. I suppose there's that.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My daily cost of living expenses are about $12.25 right now. Don't lie. You spent more that that on lunch today, didn't you...
Fuck yeah I did. I'm not a broke, lazy ass troll like you are.
That one meal is healthy food for at least 5 days for me.
I'm looking forward to all them full bellies with the rest of my $12.50. Is your stomach growling yet?
What's for dinner?
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Money in the bank? Making what, 1/4 of a percent interest? And you're bragging about that? Lying or stupid - or both.
You're still not getting it, dummy.
Add up all of your interest payments all year, including your mortgage interest if you're not also doubly stupid and renting your place, in which case you can just go right ahead and include all 12 of your monthly rent payments instead of just mortgage interest.
Now divide that by 365.
How much is it? Can you even come close with a guess before adding it all up? Do you even really want to know the answer?
I could be making zero interest on my money in coffee cans buried out in the forest and my money is still making more than whatever piddly ass little amount you're filling in on your 1099-INT form every April is, after you've subtracted all the money you pissed away on interest for things that you don't actually own yet.
I'm quite certain that I can live an entire year for less than half of what you give rich people in interest payments each year to buy shit for you and own it for you until you pay it off because you couldn't afford to buy it with cash.
And since it's all money that I've already got anyway, I'm not constantly paying SS/Medicare, Federal and State/Local taxes on the money I'm using to snag great deals like you are on every single dime you're slaving away to make during what's left of the best years of your life because you NEED it to live.
Have fun at work tomorrow, wage-slave bitch.
If I'm not working on a project, I'll be napping.
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Oooh. The truth is finally being leaked out about Ukraine...
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CBS Censors Own Documentary After Ukraine Outraged
Monday, Aug 08, 2022 - 08:25 PM
CBS has censored its own documentary investigative reporting after an avalanche of pushback from supporters of Ukraine and its military. The segment highlighted that tons of weaponry shipped from the United States to the country's military has gone missing, and sounded the alarm as billions in dollars more have been pledged by the Biden administration.
"CBS partially retracted a documentary in which it said that shipments of weapons to Ukraine from the US had been going missing," Insider reports Monday. "CBS tweeted on Monday that it had removed a video promoting the documentary that included a months-old quote saying most aid was not making it to Ukraine's front lines."
Terrifying how swiftly and obediently the corporate media walks back facts that are undesirable for the regime. https://t.co/SqafRmOnr0
— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) August 8, 2022
The segment, titled "Arming Ukraine" was published days ago, and follows on the heels of Pentagon and US intelligence officials issuing similar warnings that there are few mechanisms in place to legitimately track the arms flowing into the country. One admin official even described in April that, "we have fidelity for a short time, but when it enters the fog of war, we have almost zero. It [military aid] drops into a big black hole, and you have almost no sense of it at all after a short period of time."
The fresh CBS reporting added to these concerns, quoting the the head of a Lithuania-based organization supplying the Ukrainian military, Jonas Ohman. Below is the deleted tweet, with the offending line of "30% of it [US-supplied arms and munitions] reaches its final destination."
"All of this stuff goes across the border, and then something happens, kind of like 30% of it reaches its final destination."
Ohman stressed that actually getting the weapons to the designated Ukrainian army units involves having to navigate an array of "power lords, oligarchs [and] political players." This also as there have been persistent reports that some weapons end up on the black market, or might possibly be moved outside Ukraine.
Don’t worry, @CBSNews, I saved it. pic.twitter.com/jiJorgw18F
— Viva Frei (@thevivafrei) August 8, 2022
A senior crisis adviser with Amnesty International also told CBS in the documentary, "What is really worrying is that some countries that are sending weapons do not seem to think that it is their responsibility to put in place a very robust oversight mechanism."
Officials with the Ukrainian government promptly accused the mainstream US network of playing into "Russian propaganda".
OF COURSE!
Quote:SO, let's get this straight: Ukraine is telling US what we can and can't report?
Along with a widespread social media backlash from Kiev's supporters and pundits, this was apparently enough for CBS to announce it is "updating" the segment, with some of the offending lines now dropped...
CBS claims this documentary is now "being updated" after it received a giant tsunami of trolling from those who were upset at the information being reported. The original link was taken down: pic.twitter.com/b04P5KlRC7
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) August 8, 2022
The Ukrainian government further put out a dubious claim that "all received equipment is accounted for" - this despite months of Pentagon officials warning that this isn't the case.
Unsurprisingly, Ukraine's Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dmytro Kuleba, has demanded that CBS News conduct an internal investigation to get to the bottom of things.
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Yeah. The NYT even dared to report on this... at least a little bit.
But by all means, give Ukraine $750 Billion for reparations, Joe* and Nancy. Then explain to all the black people who aren't voting for you anymore why they still haven't gotten the reparations you always promise them but never have any intention of paying them.
Oh, and please... Do make sure to have your Legacy Media lapdogs continue to call it "Reparations" to Ukraine too, yanno... just to rub the salt in the wounds from the 1000-cuts your broken promises have inflicted on every poor black person out there since the 60s.
You rich white Democrats are the least self-aware people that planet Earth has ever hosted.
You're Parasites.
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Quote:In partnership with Reuters, the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) released a report on Monday detailing inspections of 27 Russian weapons systems and pieces of military equipment expended or lost since Russia invaded Ukraine, and the group said the majority of the apparent Western components were manufactured by U.S. companies.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oooh. Pity
“The preponderance of foreign-made components inside these systems reveals that Russia’s war machine is heavily reliant on imports of sophisticated microelectronics to operate effectively,” the group said in its report.
“This is despite persistent efforts by the Russian government to replace imports – in all aspects of its economy, including the military sector – with domestically produced materials in order to withstand international sanctions,” it continued.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/3593133-hundreds-of-western-c
omponents-found-in-russian-weapons-in-ukraine-think-tank/
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Nobody cares. Certainly not after the stunt you pulled last night.
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Quote:What stunt was that? I must have missed it.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares. Certainly not after the stunt you pulled last night.
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Quote:Large explosions rock Russian military air base in Crimea
Originally posted by SignyM:
What stunt was that? I must have missed it.
Videos posted on social networks showed sunbathers fleeing a nearby beach as huge flames and pillars of smoke rose over the horizon from multiple points, accompanied by loud booms. Crimea Today News said on Telegram that witnesses reported fire on a runway and damage to nearby homes as a result of what it said were dozens of explosions.
Russia's Defence Ministry denied the Saki base on the Black Sea had been shelled and said instead that munitions had (spontaneously) blown up there. But Ukrainian social networks were abuzz with speculation that it was hit by Ukrainian-fired long-range missiles.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-russia-crimea-explosion-1.654600
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Quote:What stunt was that? I must have missed it.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares. Certainly not after the stunt you pulled last night.
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I wasn't referring to Second as an individual. Second is not an individual and has no agency. He's proven he's just a Borg for Democrats at this point, so he can and will be blamed for everything HIS party does going forward.
Surely you've heard about the FBI raid via FISA warrant on Mar-a-Lago last night by now.
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Quote:Oh, yes, that. Sorry. I wasn't sure what you were refering to. Thanks.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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I wasn't referring to Second as an individual. Second is not an individual and has no agency. He's proven he's just a Borg for Democrats at this point, so he can and will be blamed for everything HIS party does going forward.
Surely you've heard about the FBI raid via FISA warrant on Mar-a-Lago last night by now.
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Quote:Democrats would not approve of my attitude toward Russians in Ukraine and Trumptards in America.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I wasn't referring to Second as an individual. Second is not an individual and has no agency. He's proven he's just a Borg for Democrats at this point, so he can and will be blamed for everything HIS party does going forward.
Surely you've heard about the FBI raid via FISA warrant on Mar-a-Lago last night by now.
A Russian air force Il-76 airlifter was rolling down the runway at Saki air base in Russian-occupied Crimea on Tuesday afternoon when something—or several somethings—exploded hundreds of yards behind it.
As many as a dozen blasts rocked the sprawling base, which houses the Russian Black Sea Fleet’s 43rd Independent Naval Attack Aviation Regiment and other units. Fireballs rolled into the sky, feeding a pall of black smoke and startling tourists sunbathing on nearby beaches.
The Kremlin claimed the explosions were the result of an accident. But the near-simultaneous blasts across the airfield indicated otherwise. It clearly was a Ukrainian attack. But exactly how the Ukrainians hit this major Russian facility 120 miles from the front line remains unclear.
But they had options. In the five months since Russia widened its war in Ukraine, the Ukrainian armed forces have deployed more and better means of conducting deep strikes. Even a hundred miles from the front, the Russians are vulnerable.
The Saki base immediately prior to the attack housed around a dozen each Su-24 bombers and Su-30 fighters plus Mi-8 helicopters and the Il-76, according to commercial satellite imagery. At least one of the Su-24s was destroyed in the Tuesday attack along with several support vehicles and possibly one of the base’s munitions dumps, if videos and photos of the damaged base are any indications.
It’s possible the damage is much more extensive than the initial evidence implies. The Tuesday raid marks the latest escalation by Ukrainian forces that steadily are growing more adept at pinpointing and hitting Russian bases, supply lines and command posts—sometimes inside Russia itself.
The roster of systems the Ukrainians could have used to strike Saki is testimony to their growing deep-strike capabilities. Options include fighter-bombers, Tochka ballistic missiles, drones and Harpoon and Neptune anti-ship cruise missiles with their secondary land-attack modes. It’s even possible the Ukrainian army managed to complete the new HRIM-2 or Sapsan ballistic missiles it was developing before the war.
Fighter-bombers and cruise missiles aren’t hard to miss as they roar overhead—and there’s no evidence of them over Crimea on Tuesday. That could leave ballistic missiles and drones as the likeliest offenders. Ukrainian officials were coy, simply stating that the weapons that struck the Russian base were “exclusively of Ukrainian manufacture.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/08/09/the-ukrainians-blew-u
p-a-russian-air-base-120-miles-from-the-front/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Democrats would not approve of my attitude toward Russians in Ukraine and Trumptards in America.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I wasn't referring to Second as an individual. Second is not an individual and has no agency. He's proven he's just a Borg for Democrats at this point, so he can and will be blamed for everything HIS party does going forward.
Surely you've heard about the FBI raid via FISA warrant on Mar-a-Lago last night by now.
Not all of them would, Reaverfan. But a large cancerous part of the Democrat base would.
Why don't you lay them out in detail for us so I can archive them.
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At least seven Russian warplanes were destroyed after explosions rocked annexed Crimea on Tuesday, new satellite images show, in what CNN research found could be Moscow's biggest loss of military aircraft in a single day since World War II.
The destroyed warplanes appear to be Su-24 bombers and Su-30 multirole fighter jets, said Peter Layton, a fellow at the Griffith Asia Institute and a former Australian Air Force pilot, who examined Planet Lab satellite photos showing the Saki Air Base before and after the explosions.
Two more warplanes appear to have been damaged, Layton said.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/11/europe/crimea-saki-air-base-explosions-
russian-warplanes-intl-hnk-ml/index.html
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That's what I thought.
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Was looking at before and after pictures of the airbase wondering what happened. Since it's too far for an artillery shell and none of the residents or vacationers saw or heard a rocket or drone, I thimk I can safely rule out an air attack.
So there are extensive "parking" areas for planes off the runway, it looks kind of like a "zipper" with "parking spots" inside bermed areas on either side of a taxiway. (I don't know the terminology) My guess is the berms are to contain jet exhaust so it doesn't hit any nearby planes.
Anyway, at each end of the longest section of this taxiway are ... or, were ... large orange buildings/structures. My guess is for fuel or munitions, given the color and location. At another angle of this taxiway is ...or was... another structure that might have been a large storage cylinder of some kind. And somewhere inside that rectangle formed by taxiways ther was another ... something ... the evidence of its existance were berms, but I don't see anything above-ground so maybe it was underground.
One orange building looks thoroughly burned. The other orange building has only a small crater left. The "large storage cylinder" is now just a small crater. And the area of the most intense fire seems to be that area defined by berms but not much visible above-ground. Four sources of detonation or fire as fa as I can tell. I counted maybe ten planes destroyed on the ground, but all of this is far from the main runway which appears to be intact.
It looks to me as if something went off and caused other sources to detonate or burn. Whether that was sabotage or accident I suppose we'll never know. If it was an accident it was a really stupid one.
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Russian units linked to the killing of civilians in the Ukrainian town of Bucha in the Kyiv region have likely been "destroyed in combat," a U.S.–based think tank said in an assessment on Friday.
The Institute for the Study of War (ISW), citing a report by Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty (RFE/FL), assessed that Russia's 64th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade (64th SGMRB) of the 35th Combined Arms Army has likely been destroyed, possibly as "part of an intentional Kremlin effort to conceal the war crimes it committed in Kyiv Oblast."
The Kremlin has denied any accusations connected to the killing of civilians in Bucha.
Russia's president had awarded the brigade the honorary "guards" designation on April 18, following the emergence of evidence that it had committed war crimes in Bucha, ISW said. It noted that the brigade was rushed back into combat in eastern Ukraine after it had completed its withdrawal from around Kyiv without much time to rest, refit, receive replacements, or recover.
"Speculation at the time ran that the Kremlin was eager to have the brigade destroyed in combat to avoid revelation of its war crimes," ISW said.
https://www.newsweek.com/bucha-massacre-killings-russian-units-war-cri
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A man is on a street corner in Moscow yelling “The president is an idiot.”
Police surround him and handcuff him. They say “It is illegal to insult President Putin.”
He says “You don’t understand. I mean the Ukrainian president, Zelenskyy. He is the one I was insulting.”
The police captain says “You can’t fool us, everyone knows who the idiot is.”
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A man is on a street corner in Moscow yelling “The president is an idiot.”
Police surround him and handcuff him. They say “It is illegal to insult President Putin.”
He says “You don’t understand. I mean the Ukrainian president, Zelenskyy. He is the one I was insulting.”
The police captain says “You can’t fool us, everyone knows who the idiot is.”
Holy shit, that's just way to funny...
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Good.
We're making jokes now.
This whole thing is a joke.
And they're both a couple of idiots.
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Well, it's all a joke except for the roughly 100,000+ dead/disabled Kiev soldiers, the continuing shots that the EU is taking at its own economy and the billions of dollars that we hemorrhaged into Ukraine.
Anyway, it looks like Russia is grinding its way into Bakhmut, which is a key city for Kiev's defense plans bc it sits on the crossroads of a east-west and north-south major highways that connect strategic areas. Altho Russia doesn't seem to be in much of a hurry to advance bc if their goal is to demilitarize, why pursue Kiev's soldiers if Kiev keeps conveniently sending them into range?
Also, that offensive that was supposed to have happened around Kherson hasn't happened, yet. Maybe later.
BTW the reason why I refer to the official Ukrainian Army as Kiev's soldiers is bc the LPR and DPR soldiers on the other side are ALSO Ukrainian.... at least for now ... so I'm just trying to distinguish between sides. Not a slam on Kiev.
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Roger Waters was, and to the best of my knowledge is an Anti-Trumper.
Even he gets it.
And it was hilarious watching him put a douchebag State Moutpiece in his place on CNN too.
I love how he tells that bald jagoff to read a book.
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Yep.
Two points: Ukraine isn't in NATO. NATO is in Ukraine.
AND....
Since Taiwan IS part of China (which the USA presumably recognizes) then Beijing should have the last word on who can cross THEIR borders and visit China.
I'll try to put it in a way that even THUGR can understand:
Let's say that there is an independence movement in Alaska, and Putin wants to visit the leader of this independence movement. The WH says "no". Altho Putin SAYS that Alaska is part of the USA, he visits anyway, demonstrating that the USA is not in control of it's own borders and can't keep out unwanted foreign politicians.
To beat the point to death, if Taiwan is truly part of China, then Beijing has the last word on who gets a visa to visit, and who doesn't.
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Quote:If only Finland had not fought two wars against the Soviet Union, there would not be 100,000+ dead/disabled Finnish soldiers. That is one side of the equation. On the other side is that without those two wars Finland would have an economy only 25% the size that it has today. And Finland won the Happiest Country in the World contest only because it fought two wars and watched in awe as Russki cannibals ate Leningrad's dead. Funny how Putin's family was in Leningrad during the Siege. I wonder what they ate during those years of famine?
Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, it's all a joke except for the roughly 100,000+ dead/disabled Kiev soldiers, the continuing shots that the EU is taking at its own economy and the billions of dollars that we hemorrhaged into Ukraine.
Finland named world's happiest country for fifth straight year.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/finland-worlds-happiest-country-fifth-str
aight-year-afghanistan-last/
GDP per capita 2021 $54,060 Finland
GDP per capita 2021 $12,198 Russia
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/finland/russia
The Winter War began with a Soviet invasion of Finland on 30 November 1939 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
The Continuation War began 15 months after the end of the Winter War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
Siege of Leningrad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#Finnish_participation
Putin's parents survived the siege of Leningrad. Why does he presume an independent Ukraine won't?
https://timothynoah.substack.com/p/putins-parents-survived-the-siege
During the first winter when the outside temperature fell to 40 degrees below zero Fahrenheit, 100,000 people a month died of hunger and cold. Daily rations were three thin slices of bread adulterated with sawdust. When the siege was lifted, only 700,000 Leningraders of the city’s prewar population of 3.5 million remained alive.
One of these survivors was the woman who would become Vladimir Putin’s mother.
Russia still denies the Holodomor was ‘genocide’
https://www.acton.org/publications/transatlantic/2017/11/27/russia-sti
ll-denies-holodomor-was-genocide
Saturday marked “Holodomor Remembrance Day,” honoring the millions of Ukrainians who died of forced starvation at the hands of the Soviets in the 1930s. Some 80 years later, and a quarter-century after the Soviet Union’s dissolution, the Russian government still denies that this atrocity constitutes a “genocide.”
Signym, just because you don't remember doesn't mean the Russians didn't do it.
Then forgot it.
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So we're back to Russia now since the FBI raid was a disaster for Democrats.
Who could have saw that coming?
Right. I did. I saw that coming.
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Quote:The latest story is "Republicans push to see affidavit that justified FBI search of Trump's home". It is not enough that the FBI found top secret documents in Trump's closet that should have been in a Pentagon vault. Now the Trumptards want to know how the FBI knew there would be top secret documents in Trump's closet. Next, the Trumptards will want to read the top secret documents. If the FBI won't allow it, then the Trumptards will claim the documents are NOT top secret.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So we're back to Russia now since the FBI raid was a disaster for Democrats.
Who could have saw that coming?
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What is the connection to Ukraine? Strange and illogical ideas in the heads of Trumptards and Russians. Russia said it was liberating the people of Ukraine from Nazis, but Russia did something very different: Russia tortured Ukrainians. Russia executed Ukrainian prisoners with a bullet in the back of the head. Russia destroyed $750 billion in Ukrainian homes. All very different than "liberating" the people of Ukraine. And the head "Nazi" of Ukraine? He told Putin: "Are you out of your mind, Mister Putin? Or are you just lying, you big murderer?"
Also Putin said Russia was NOT invading Ukraine because Ukraine is Russia. How can Russia invade Russia? More illogical nonsense from Putin. Kind of like Trump's nonsensical declaration that the top secret documents are now declassified because Trump, who is not President, declassified the classified documents while NOT being President, but forgot to inform Biden that the documents had been declassified.
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So we're back to Russia now since the FBI raid was a disaster for Democrats.
Who could have saw that coming?
Right. I did. I saw that coming.
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Quote:So, Trumptards want to close the FBI is a disaster for Democrats? If you are stupid, you would think so, but if you are smart you would see that the Trumptards cut their own throats in the next election, just as they did when they support the end of Roe v Wade.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So we're back to Russia now since the FBI raid was a disaster for Democrats.
Who could have saw that coming?
Right. I did. I saw that coming.
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SECOND, get help.
In praise of Russia's tactics and strategies in Ukraine, by a Marine, as published in the Marine Corps Gazette
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/08/a-marines-assessment-of-russia
s-military-operation-in-ukraine-a-profound-appreciation-of-all-three-realms-in-which-wars-are-waged.html
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Quote:I'm pretty sure it is Russia that needs help: Ukraine hits Russian Wagner mercenary HQ in east
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, get help.
Last week, pro-Kremlin correspondent Sergei Sreda posted a photo on Telegram of the base with its apparent address.
This week, Ukraine blew up the HQ.
On Telegram, Governor Hayday wrote that Ukrainian forces "hit an enemy HQ whose whereabouts were established thanks to a Russian journalist".
"This time, the successful strike destroyed the Wagner PMC HQ in Popasna yesterday," he said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62547403
P.S. Signym, the Winter War with Finland convinced Hitler to invade Russia. If Stalin had not invaded Finland and lost his army to a much smaller force, Hitler would not have invaded Russia. As Stalin did, so did Putin when he invaded Ukraine. The only thing stopping NATO from crushing a weak Russian Army is Russia's nukes. Too bad Stalin didn't get nukes until Aug. 29, 1949, long after Germany invaded a weak country run by a very unwise leader. Meanwhile, Finns have prospered mightily. Russians? Not so much. The GNP numbers per capita show that Russians are nincompoops compared to Finns.
First Soviet Test
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/bomb-soviet-tests/
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All of the scientists knew that their own personal fates depended on the success of the bomb. One of them later said that if it had failed they would have all been shot. As the story goes, Beria adopted a simple rule in deciding who should get what prize. Those who would have been shot if the bomb had failed, became Heroes of Socialist Labor; those who would have been imprisoned were awarded the less prestigious honor, the Order of Lenin.
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Will a Russian win in Ukraine clarify reality for you?
I doubt it.
Since you can't accept that Russia won WWII, current events will also bounce off your head.
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Quote:Since "winning" WWII meant 27 million dead Russians, I would hate to see what a loss would have looked like. I can see you didn't absorb the idea that Hitler would not have invaded Russia if Russia hadn't invaded Finland and then lost-lost-lost. That convinced Hitler Russia could be beaten. Hitler's Generals weren't as sure because German troops would be mostly walking into Russia, not riding in trucks, because there was a shortage of vehicles. The German Army was dependent on horses!
Originally posted by SignyM:
Will a Russian win in Ukraine clarify reality for you?
I doubt it.
Since you can't accept that Russia won WWII, current events will also bounce off your head.
Quote:https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/horses-the-mechanized-myth-o
Hitler planned to defeat the Soviet Union in the winter of 1941, but he mismanaged and mistimed the offensive, opposed by most generals who feared a war on two fronts. Hitler ignored terrain and weather, meddling in the military, arguing, and losing precious time. Seventy percent of German forces moved on foot. Colonel General Franz Halder predicted that each infantry division needed 4,500 horses and 2,000 horse-drawn wheeled vehicles. But the obstinate Hitler ignored advice.
f-the-eastern-front/
If Zelenskyy makes military decisions as badly as Hitler made, against all the advice of his best generals, Ukraine will lose as decisively to Russia as Germany lost to Russia. Finland beat Russia because Finland's Field Marshal Mannerheim refused to entertain stupid ideas from Finnish politicians or even from Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_Emil_Mannerheim#Visit_by_Ado
lf_Hitler
World War II casualties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths_by_
country
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Originally posted by second:Quote:So, Trumptards want to close the FBI is a disaster for Democrats? If you are stupid, you would think so, but if you are smart you would see that the Trumptards cut their own throats in the next election, just as they did when they support the end of Roe v Wade.
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So we're back to Russia now since the FBI raid was a disaster for Democrats.
Who could have saw that coming?
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The error in your logic is that most Democrats agree.
Not the loud and stupid ones like you, but most of the rest of them do.
And they're not buying any of your bullshit right now because of inflation.
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Quote:Germany needed Russian oil for its war machine. Germany STILL needs foreign oil. And foreign gas, too, and Russia is the most geographically convenient source. Just watch its economy implode this winter. Along with its government.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Since "winning" WWII meant 27 million dead Russians, I would hate to see what a loss would have looked like. I can see you didn't absorb the idea that Hitler would not have invaded Russia if Russia hadn't invaded Finland
Originally posted by SignyM:
Will a Russian win in Ukraine clarify reality for you?
I doubt it.
Since you can't accept that Russia won WWII, current events will also bounce off your head.
I don't know what kind of version of history you've convinced yourself of, but it sure is fucked up.
Oh, BTW, for every dead Russian soldier there are probably ten dead Kiev soldiers. Not only is Kiev going to lose in the geographic sense, it's going to lose the war of attrition. Yanno, kind of like the Confederate south. If Russia leaves a rump Ukraine that will be by far the poorest country in Europe. It will take at least 30 years to recover, unless the west hemorrhages more $$$ into that corrupt cluster-fuck.
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Assuming for the sake of argument that Russia wins convincingly in Ukraine, what comes next? All of the agitation in the Baltics, Serbia, Finland and even further (Taiwan, Africa etc) is all ostensibly about "Save Ukraine!!" what does the EU do if the balloon deflates? The USA, being geographically distant, can just cut ties and support to Ukraine and pretend it never happened, like Afghanistan, but the EU is left with the economic, political, and migrant fallout.
Current governments will never be able to back down or reverse gear. I think they'll carry on in their snit with Russia. But since that will lead to such dire economic and social consequences for some nations - Germany, UK, and the Baltics- that will probably lead to changes in government. Some EU nations might rethink their unwavering support of NATO, seeing NATO as toothless. That might lead to different EU nations with different foreign policies re: Russia, which certainly wouldn't help EU or NATO unity.
Anyway, just spitballing and trying to predict the future.
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Quote:Signym, wouldn't it have been nicer for Putin if Ukraine had surrendered to Russia immediately? Then Putin would not have cut off gas to the EU because Putin had a tantrum about the EU giving free ammo to Ukraine. Putin's tantrum didn't stop the free ammo, did it?
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Germany needed Russian oil for its war machine. Germany STILL needs foreign oil. And foreign gas, too, and Russia is the most geographically convenient source. Just watch its economy implode this winter. Along with its government.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Since "winning" WWII meant 27 million dead Russians, I would hate to see what a loss would have looked like. I can see you didn't absorb the idea that Hitler would not have invaded Russia if Russia hadn't invaded Finland
Originally posted by SignyM:
Will a Russian win in Ukraine clarify reality for you?
I doubt it.
Since you can't accept that Russia won WWII, current events will also bounce off your head.
I don't know what kind of version of history you've convinced yourself of, but it sure is fucked up.
Oh, BTW, for every dead Russian soldier there are probably ten dead Kiev soldiers. Not only is Kiev going to lose in the geographic sense, it's going to lose the war of attrition. Yanno, kind of like the Confederate south. If Russia leaves a rump Ukraine that will be by far the poorest country in Europe. It will take at least 30 years to recover, unless the west hemorrhages more $$$ into that corrupt cluster-fuck.
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According to the Russophiles in America, the war is vastly more destructive against Russophobes than against Russians: "for every dead Russian soldier there are probably ten dead Kiev soldiers" and "Just watch [Germany's] economy implode this winter. Along with its government." If Putin has convinced himself that is true, then with patience Ukraine will naturally become his property, given enough time.
But the war between Ukraine and Russia has not even properly started because Russia hasn't been invaded. It is Russia destroying Ukrainian housing ($750 billion) and Russia forcing Ukrainians (12 million) to flee, and Russia executing prisoners (22,504), not the other way around. And it is also Russia that declared Ukraine has always been a part of Russia. Until Putin drops that delusion, he won't end his war on Ukraine.
My solution to Putin's delusion? Give Russia a real war of attrition. Destroy Russian property ($750 billion). Force Russians to flee (12 million). I would advise against executing prisoners (0 executed). Let Russians be the only war criminals.
If Putin wants to nuke the world in retaliation for a more symmetrical war fought on both Russian and Ukrainian land, that's his decision. Nobody can make Putin nuke the world against his calm and rational judgement about what is best for Russia, which is, in my opinion, Putin drops his delusions about owning Ukraine and withdraws from Ukraine, including Crimea. The historic example is Stalin withdrawing from Finland after only 3 months, 1 week and 6 days. Putin could do the same, or not. It is Putin's decision.
Katherine Arnold, July 1st, 2020
“There is no Ukraine”: Fact-Checking the Kremlin’s Version of Ukrainian History
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/07/01/there-is-no-ukraine-fact-chec
king-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/
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Already long before the Ukraine crisis, at an April 2008 NATO summit in Bucharest, Vladimir Putin reportedly claimed that “Ukraine is not even a state! What is Ukraine? A part of its territory is [in] Eastern Europe, but a[nother] part, a considerable one, was a gift from us!” In his March 18, 2014 speech marking the annexation of Crimea, Putin declared that Russians and Ukrainians “are one people. Kiev is the mother of Russian cities. Ancient Rus’ is our common source and we
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Quote:Russians were wrong and are dismayed to discover that Ukrainians do care and do kill Russians.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Russians were wrong and are dismayed to discover that Ukrainians do care and do kill Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Nobody cares about either of them or how many of each other they kill.
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Quote:The present is more accurately known than the future but at some point the present becomes "Fake News". Declaring the News to be "Fake News" means your predictions of the future are never wrong, Signym.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Anyway, just spitballing and trying to predict the future.
The Ukrainian military’s Southern Command said Thursday that it had struck an ammunition depot in the village of Bilohirka, near the front line of fighting in the Kherson region. The rocket strike is the latest in a series of attacks that have targeted logistics in the Russian-occupied south—part of a strategy to starve Russian troops in the region of supplies and force them to withdraw from the territory they are holding west of the Dnipro River.
A day earlier, the Ukrainian military posted video to social media that appeared to show the aftermath of a long-range rocket strike on Nova Kakhovka, also in the Kherson region.
And on Tuesday, pro-Ukrainian saboteurs destroyed an ammunition depot in Crimea, which Russia seized in 2014.
Video on social media Thursday also showed large explosions overnight in Russian-occupied Amvrosiivka, in the eastern Donetsk region; Ukrainian officials didn’t immediately comment on the cause.
As Ukrainian strikes inside Russian-held territory increase, Russian forces are attempting to crack down on pro-Ukrainian insurgents.
More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-strikes-russian-base-ahea
d-of-talks-with-turkey-u-n/ar-AA10No4G
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In Ukraine, the notorious Russian Wagner group is recruiting. Murderers are welcome.
For years, the Wagner private military company has done Moscow’s dirty work in eastern Ukraine, Libya, Syria and parts of Africa. The Kremlin always officially denied any relationship with Wagner, whose soldiers for hire have been accused of massacres and other human rights violations.
But now, Wagner and its mercenaries have suddenly emerged from the shadows in the Ukraine war, openly celebrated on Russian state media and lauded as heroes of President Vladimir Putin’s bloody invasion. A recent special report on the most-watched state TV channel trumpeted the group’s gains on the Ukrainian front lines — an unthinkable acknowledgment of Wagner even just a few months ago.
Pro-Kremlin reporters lionize the members of the group, named for the right-wing German classical composer Richard Wagner, as “musicians” in an “orchestra.” And Wagner is using glitzy advertising across Russia to sign up new members. Its efforts include recruitment campaigns in prisons.
“This site was liberated by the specialists from Wagner PMC, the famed ‘musicians’ of the famed ‘orchestra,’ ” war correspondent Evgeny Poddubny said as he toured the Vuhlehirska power station in the Donetsk region, for the Rossiya 1 channel. Poddubny was accompanied by a masked mercenary wearing a helmet emblazoned with a skull and two crossed swords.
“If before everyone pretended such people don’t exist in general … now everything is different,” wrote the administrator of Special Task Channel, a popular pro-Kremlin Telegram blog. “It is not some vague volunteers or the general armed forces that are pushing ahead against the Ukrainian military. It’s Wagner doing it.”
The new public embrace of Wagner in many ways is the result of missteps and miscalculations by Russia’s senior political and military leaders, who wrongly expected that the country’s traditional armed forces would quickly conquer Ukraine. Those leaders also became wedded to the false narrative of a “special military operation” rather than acknowledging that Russia was at war.
The paramilitary group was not seen fighting in Ukraine in the early days of the campaign. But Russia’s invading forces were quickly stymied in their initial attempt to seize Kyiv and topple the Ukrainian government. The far heavier-than-expected losses of personnel and equipment quickly prompted the military leadership to seek the help of Wagner mercenaries hardened by years of surreptitious fighting in Donbas and Syria and in other far-flung locations.
Russian military leaders apparently believed they could win in Ukraine without Wagner’s help, an anonymous author of the Telegram channel Reverse Side of the Medal, which is popular with mercenaries, said in a YouTube interview. “But when serious trench wars began, they appealed to the one who shall not be named,” said the author, who claims to be a Wagner member.
A recent investigation by the Russian-language media outlet Meduza concluded that Wagner’s entry into the war was delayed by a falling-out between the group’s reputed financial backer, Yevgeniy Prigozhin, and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, as well as other members of the Kremlin elite. Prigozhin, who is known as “Putin’s chef” because he made a fortune from government catering contracts, and is under U.S. and E.U. sanctions, has long denied any connection to Wagner.
Officially, the Kremlin also still denies any links between Wagner and the government. But Wagner’s operations in Ukraine are widely believed to be tightly coordinated with the Russian Defense Ministry.
Thousands of more words at https://web.archive.org/web/20220818110544/https://www.washingtonpost.
com/world/2022/08/17/ukraine-russia-wagner-group-mercenaries/
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A Russian paratrooper who fought in Ukraine says troops are deliberately shooting themselves in the leg to escape the war and get a $50,000 payout.
Pavel Filatyev, 33, published a 141-page memoir outlining his experience on the front lines of the Ukraine war on the Russian social-media platform VKontakte two weeks ago, The Guardian reported. Insider has seen the memoir.
The memoir — titled "ZOV" after the Russian pro-war symbol — is the most detailed account of a Russian soldier fighting in Ukraine so far.
It describes how some Russian soldiers are facing so much chaos, hunger, and destruction that they are looking for any way out.
"Someone began to shoot himself in the limbs ... to get 3 million rubles and get out of this hell," Filatyev wrote in his memoir.
His account mirrored similar reports from the New York Post and MailOnline earlier this year, which said Russian soldiers were telling family members that their comrades were shooting themselves in the leg in order to go home.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-paratrooper-who-fought-in
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‘I don’t see justice in this war’: Russian soldier exposes rot at core of Ukraine invasion
https://web.archive.org/web/20220818151434/https://www.theguardian.com
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“I am not afraid to fight in war. But I need to feel justice, to understand that what I’m doing is right. And I believe that this is all failing not only because the government has stolen everything, but because we, Russians, don’t feel that what we are doing is right.”
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2 Russian villages evacuated after fire at munitions depot
The residents of two villages in Russia’s Belgorod region on Ukraine’s northeastern border were evacuated after a fire at a munitions depot near the village of Timonovo, the region's governor said Friday.
There were no casualties in the late Thursday blaze, Gov. Vyacheslav Gladkov said.
The fire came days after another ammunition depot exploded on Ukraine's Black Sea peninsula of Crimea, a Russian-occupied territory seized by Moscow in 2014.
Last week, nine Russian warplanes were reported destroyed at an airbase on Crimea, demonstrating both the Russians’ vulnerability and the Ukrainians’ capacity to strike deep behind enemy lines. Ukrainian authorities have stopped short of publicly claiming responsibility.
But President Volodymyr Zelenskyy alluded to Ukrainian attacks behind enemy lines after the blasts in Crimea, which Russia has blamed on “sabotage.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2022-08-19/2-russian-vil
lages-evacuated-after-fire-at-munitions-depot
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Why Russian mothers with 10 children are being awarded as ‘heroines’
Russia President Vladimir Putin revived the old award to bolster patriotism, encourage larger families
The Moscow Times reported in late July that “Russia’s population shrank by a record average of 86,000 people a month between January and May,” citing statistics from the agency Rosstat.
The decree sets out some rules: All 10 children must still be alive, although there are exceptions for children killed in “military, official or civic service, or in a terrorist attack.”
https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/18/23311522/why-russian-mothers-10-chil
dren-heroines-amid-global-fertility-falling-birthrates-national-award
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Quote:The War in Ukraine is not going well for Putin. Deaths are high. What to do? Putin has a plan:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Why Russian mothers with 10 children are being awarded as ‘heroines’
Russia President Vladimir Putin revived the old award to bolster patriotism, encourage larger families
The Moscow Times reported in late July that “Russia’s population shrank by a record average of 86,000 people a month between January and May,” citing statistics from the agency Rosstat.
The decree sets out some rules: All 10 children must still be alive, although there are exceptions for children killed in “military, official or civic service, or in a terrorist attack.”
https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/18/23311522/why-russian-mothers-10-chil
dren-heroines-amid-global-fertility-falling-birthrates-national-award
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New satellite images debunk Putin's claim about nuclear plant
New satellite images from Maxar Technologies of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant show no signs of "systemic shelling," despite claims by Russian president Vladimir Putin that the Ukrainian military was conducting repeated military strikes at the plant.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/08/20/putin-russia-ukraine-zapor
izhzhia-nuclear-plant-kiley-ebof-vpx.cnn
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Car bomb kills daughter of 'spiritual guide' to Putin's Ukraine invasion
Russian authorities said Sunday they had opened a murder investigation after the daughter of influential, ultra-nationalist philosopher Alexander Dugin was killed by a car bomb on the outskirts of Moscow.
A friend of Dugina told TASS that he believed Dugina's father was the true target of the blast -- or possibly both of them -- as the car belonged to Alexander.
"It's her father's car," Krasnov told TASS. "Dasha (Darya) drives another car, but she drove his car today, and Alexander went separately," Andrei Krasnov, head of the Russky Gorizont (Russian Horizon) social movement and a personal acquaintance of Dugina's family, told TASS.
A Russian foreign ministry official implied that Ukrainian state structures were responsible for the explosion, a claim that Ukrainian authorities have denied.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/20/europe/darya-dugina-killed-car-explosio
n-alexander-dugin-russia-intl-hnk/index.html
In an interview with CNN in 2017, Dugin remarked on many similarities between his ideas and those of former US president Donald Trump. He called Trump's inauguration speech discourse "as if I would write it myself." He also said that Putin provided inspiration for Trump, "a kind of... example to challenge the status quo, to challenge the conventional wisdom, challenge all this totalitarian principles of globalists and ultra-liberals."
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Zelensky Warns Of 'Nastier' Phase Of War As Russia Says Dugin Car Bombing Was A 'Contract Killing'
by Tyler Durden
Sunday, Aug 21, 2022 - 07:50 AM
Update1050ET: Ukraine is bracing for a likely escalation in Russian attacks following last night's killing of the daughter of Alexander Dugin - Darya Dugina - by what looked to be a car bomb as she as driving his car home from an event. Based on the details that emerged, many believe it was an assassination attempt on the prominent but deeply controversial Russian political commentator and philosopher himself.
Contrary to current exaggerated Western mainstream headlines referring to him as "Putin's brain" - there's no clear evidence that Dugin and Putin have ever even met (much less a photograph of the two together or in the same room, which we've yet to find), though the influence of Dugin's thought on certain Russian political circles is clear. He's long been central to developing the so-called 'Russian world' ideology, but his influence on actual Kremlin policy circles has been marginal at best especially since 2014, given he's been much more hawkish and maximalist when it comes to the Ukraine crisis, at times uncomfortably so for Russia's political leadership.
On Sunday, Russia's Investigative Committee said in an official statement that it has opened a murder investigation following a car bomb being detonated under Alexander Dugin's vehicle, which only his daughter Darya was driving at the time (eyewitnesses say he switched cars at the last minute when returning from an event).
Via Sky News
According to Russia’s Investigative Committee, the Toyota Land Cruiser she was driving was ripped apart by a car bomb in the Moscow region, near the village of Bolshie Vyazemy, in a targeted killing by unknown entities:
"The investigation believes that the crime was planned in advance and is of a contract nature," the statement said, adding that investigators had "established that the explosive device was placed under the bottom of the car on the driver’s side."
Pro-Russian Donbass militia leaders, Denis Pushilin foremost among them, have called on fighters to quickly “avenge” Dugina’s death. At the same time, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is now warning his citizens that severe escalation looms.
Warning of potential stepped-upf Russian attacks and the need for vigilance, Zelensky said in the hours following reports of the targeted hit:
"We should be conscious of the fact that this week Russia may try to do something particularly nasty," the Ukrainian leader said in his daily video address late on Saturday. “But Russia has done the same constantly each week throughout the past six months.”
Days ahead of Ukraine's independence day celebrations, some regional governors are also taking extra precautions, according to The Wall Street Journal:
In the northeastern Kharkiv region, part of which remains under Russian occupation, governor Oleh Synehubov announced a series of restrictions on movement this week including a 36-hour curfew beginning on the eve of Independence Day on Tuesday until early morning on Thursday.
"Please treat such steps with understanding and prepare to stay at home or in bomb shelters—this is our security," he wrote on the Telegram social-media platform. "We won’t give the enemy the chance for any provocations. On the day of our independence we will be particularly alert."
So far, President Putin has yet to officially react or weigh in on the car bombing which targeted civilians on Russian soil. While it's clear that Alexander Dugin is a deeply controversial and polarizing figure even within Russia, and much more so abroad, some pundits are pointing out that the hit could have been intended for Darya from the beginning. Little is known at this point regarding precise motives or who exactly was behind it, as the investigation continues.
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Kiev hasn't claimed responsibility for this killing. But if the FSB finds out that it was a foreign actor.... Kiev, UK's MI6, Albanian terrorists... whatever... expect retribution.
What I find troubling is that this killing was deeply misdirected. Not only was it accidental, but even if Dugin himself had been killed ... well, I've read a little of Dugin, and he's so far off the "Eurasian integration" deep end as to be incomprehensible. To me, anyway. I see no signs of the cultural and political melding that it seems (to me) that he's proposing, and I think the various individual cultures and nations would find his vision distasteful. In other words, he has no influence on Kremlin policy, and if he really was vital to the Kremlin, wouldn't he have better security?
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Kiev knows it can't win a conventional war, so it is resorting to nuclear blackmail by shelling the nuclear power plant in Zaparozhye (and claiming the Russians are shelling their own position!). Russia has repeatedly requested an inspection by the IAEA, but Guiterrez refuses to allow inspection until Kiev agrees, and Kiev hasn't agreed bc they know that they would be ID'd as the perpetrator.
Kiev is also resorting to small drone attacks on Crimea. This has been intepreted as Zelensky's attempt to show SOME sort of progress, since that "million man army's Karkhov offensive" has failed to materialize, western political and military opinion seems to be turning against him, and he is desperate to hang on to power (and grift) just a little longer.
So in addition to using human shields (documented by Amnesty International), torturing and killing prisoners, and deliberately shelling civilian populations, Kiev is doing what it can in the way of small drone attacks on Crimea.
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Cyberwar in Ukraine
Russia's invasion of Ukraine and ongoing war in the region was the subject of several Black Hat presentations. Researchers from ESET, a security company based in neighboring Slovakia, walked attendees through a timeline of attacks on Ukraine's power grid. The most recent used the Industroyer2 malware that, if successful, could have knocked out power to 2 million residents.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/scariest-things-we-saw-at-black-hat-2022
Researchers Look Inside Russian Malware Targeting Ukrainian Power Grid
ESET security researchers share findings on the Industroyer2 malware designed to cause a mass blackout in Ukraine. One official calls it 'the biggest challenge for the world since World War II.'
https://www.pcmag.com/news/researchers-look-inside-russian-malware-tar
geting-ukrainian-power-grid
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How many Russian soldiers have been killed in Ukraine? What we know, how we know it and what it really means.
The estimates range from 1,351 and 43,000, but this much is clear: Russia has a manpower problem.
As the 19th-century Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz wrote, “Casualty reports on either side are never accurate, seldom truthful, and in most cases deliberately falsified.”
The impact of all these casualties undeniably important, given that troop losses are likely to be a main determinant of the outcome. Over the past several months, the conflict in Ukraine has become a classic “war of attrition,” meaning that rather than dramatic offensives or changes in territorial control, each side is trying to force the other to collapse by inflicting steady losses in personnel and equipment. Trench warfare in World War I was the classic example of this. Ukraine’s best chance of victory may be that Russia will simply run out of the troops it needs to hold onto Ukrainian territory.
Russia’s people problem
If the higher end of the U.S. estimates is accurate, it would mean that the Russian death toll in Ukraine has been greater than the Soviet Union’s during its 10-year war in Afghanistan. It far exceeds the number of U.S. service members, around 7,000, killed in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Those assessments would also mean that of the estimated 150,000 troops Russia massed at Ukraine’s borders prior to the invasion, more than half have been lost to death or injury. Even if the real numbers are lower, it is clear that Russia is having trouble keeping troops in the field.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has refrained so far from calling the conflict in Ukraine a “war” — for the Kremlin, it’s still a “special military operation.” This may be a politically safer way to describe the invasion, but it also limits the Russian government’s ability to conscript troops. Absent a formal war declaration, Putin cannot order a mass mobilization of forces.
The Russians have also mostly avoided sending draftees into combat. This has led to a struggle to replenish the troops who have either been lost to death or injury, or merely rotated out. Regional governments across Russia have been advertising heavily to attract recruits, offering monthly salaries up to $5,500 — several times the average in many parts of Russia — along with lucrative signing bonuses. Standards have been loosened as well, with “volunteer battalions” seeking men up to age 50 and requiring only a middle school education. These volunteers are reportedly sent to the front with only three to seven days of training, and casualties among them are believed to be high.
Who is dying?
It is increasingly clear that it is not the Russian military itself that is doing much of the fighting and dying in Ukraine. The separatist militias from the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk did much of the front-line fighting in the recent battles for the eastern cities of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. These are often ill-trained and ill-equipped conscripts, and casualties among their ranks have been high. British intelligence officials estimated in July that the Donetsk militia had lost 55 percent of its original force. Russia’s reliance on these militias in eastern Ukraine is likely to only increase as Russia shifts troops to the south in preparation for an anticipated Ukrainian offensive.
Russia’s Ukraine offensive has also been relying heavily on the Rosgvardia, a national guard force that is supposed to be used only for internal security in Russia, as well as the Wagner Group, Russia’s secretive state-linked private military contractor.
The most dramatic example of the Kremlin’s desperation for troops is a scheme, under the auspices of the Wagner Group, to recruit in prisons, offering to commute the sentences of men who agree to go to the front lines in Ukraine. “They will accept murderers, but not rapists, pedophiles, extremists, or terrorists,” one prisoner told CNN.
As is often the case in war, not all parts of Russian society are paying a
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