Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Russia controlled Poland, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania until the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. Putin was stationed in East Germany until that collapse. He wants to take over those lands, again, plus all the other territory that the Soviet Union lost control over, including Ukraine, which is interfering with Putin's Grand Design. Every time Putin mentions his nukes and all the brand new designs for nuclear weapons he has built since 1999, Putin is telling you what his plans are for World Conquest. 6ix, you should pay attention. That $5,500 billion the US spent for nuclear weapons was intended to stop the Soviet Union from taking over the world. Good thing the money was spent, or else Putin would have already succeed in his Grand Design.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Correction:
AMERICANS are interfering with.
Using Ukrainian nitwits as cannon fodder.
All while Raytheon and the rest of the War Machine gets even richer and puppet President and child rapist crossdresser Zelinsky gets his payouts.
You disgust me.
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The Collapse of the Soviet Union
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/collapse-soviet-union
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Oh fuck you.
Seriously.
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Oh Jeezus, SECOND. It's very simple: Putin doesn't want nuclear missiles or NATO forces on his border.
He may have to concede on the NATO forces, but he's going to hang rough on the nukes
This isn't about occupying territory, you stupid sod. The Russians tried that already and it didn't work well for them. They don't intend to repeat that mistake.
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Quote:Russian leader Vladimir Putin has alarmed Western leaders by referencing the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in a conversation with French president Emmanuel Macron. Putin expressed the view that the bombings demonstrated that ‘you don’t need to attack the major cities in order to win’. Macron was distinctly alarmed. It sounded like a very heavy hint that Putin might detonate a tactical nuclear weapon in the east of Ukraine, while leaving Kyiv intact. That appeared to be the thrust of his remarks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh fuck you.
Seriously.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11394307/Putins-deranged-Hiro
shima-threat-conversation-Macron.html
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Quote:Russian leader Vladimir Putin has alarmed Western leaders by referencing the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in a conversation with French president Emmanuel Macron. Putin expressed the view that the bombings demonstrated that ‘you don’t need to attack the major cities in order to win’. Macron was distinctly alarmed. It sounded like a very heavy hint that Putin might detonate a tactical nuclear weapon in the east of Ukraine, while leaving Kyiv intact. That appeared to be the thrust of his remarks.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh fuck you.
Seriously.
Oh, baloney.
The only nation that ever used nukes in war was the USA. It's the USA that withdrew from most nuclear agreements, changed it's nuclear strike policy to allow nuclear strikes to a non-nuclear threat, and has been talking up (in policy circles) the view that we can win with tactical nukes without sparking Armageddon. If Macron is alarmed about anyone, it should be the USA.
Everything you accuse "Putin" of planning, we've already done.
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Quote:It is very, very simple, Signym: A popular Russian state TV anchor has warned that Moscow could wipe Britain off the map with a nuclear tsunami in retaliation for supporting Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh Jeezus, SECOND. It's very simple: Putin doesn't want nuclear missiles or NATO forces on his border.
He may have to concede on the NATO forces, but he's going to hang rough on the nukes
This isn't about occupying territory, you stupid sod. The Russians tried that already and it didn't work well for them. They don't intend to repeat that mistake.
In his Sunday evening primetime show on Channel One, one of the most-watched in Russia, Dmitry Kiselyov claimed on May 1 that a strike by the country’s Poseidon nuclear underwater drone could drown the UK under a 500-metre tidal wave of radioactive seawater.
According to its mission statement, the project was focused on “damaging the important components of the adversary's economy in a coastal area and inflicting unacceptable damage to a country's territory by creating areas of wide radioactive contamination that would be unsuitable for military, economic, or other activity for long periods of time”.
In 2018, a leaked draft of the Pentagon's Nuclear Posture Review acknowledged Russia was developing a "new intercontinental, nuclear-armed, nuclear-powered, undersea autonomous torpedo”.
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/05/04/what-is-russia-s-poseidon-nuc
lear-drone-and-could-it-wipe-out-the-uk-in-a-radioactive-tsun
I leave Signym to work out why Russians should not build Poseidon and why, if Russians do build it, they should keep Poseidon a secret or, at least, not threaten to use it.
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It's very simple, SECOND. So simple, even you can get it!
The collective west put nukes near Russias borders, so they put nukes near ours.
If that bothers us, maybe we should negotiate agreements. And stick with them this time.
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Nobody is using any nukes, you fucking idiot retard simple.
Take your fear porn and stick it where you've already got your head.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's very simple, SECOND. So simple, even you can get it!
The collective west put nukes near Russias borders, so they put nukes near ours.
If that bothers us, maybe we should negotiate agreements. And stick with them this time.
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Quote:Neither Signym nor 6ixStringJack know nukes, but Andy does: The history to which we are heir includes many millennia in which the possibility of our global self-destruction did not exist. By contrast, it is only within the span of living memory that humankind has come to possess powers of that magnitude. Only recently has this question of “the fate of civilization” gained some urgency.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody is using any nukes, you fucking idiot retard simple.
Take your fear porn and stick it where you've already got your head.
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It was only in World War II that the breakthrough achieved by the Manhattan Project opened the door to the possibility that Life-on-Earth’s experiment with civilization might culminate in a nuclear holocaust.
(That possibility already came dangerously close to realization in 1962, with the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. And we’ve been compelled lately to re-envision that potential nightmare when one man – who is an unbalanced fascist dictator, filled with resentments and a lust for empire, and in command of a massive nuclear arsenal — rattled his nuclear saber to intimidate his opponents.)
. . . leaving the international order as it has always been – which means that confrontations between great nuclear powers (like the Cuban Missile Crisis) will recur indefinitely — amounts to playing Russian Roulette.
We know for a virtual certainty what would be the outcome for a person who keeps on spinning the chamber and pulling the trigger. Eventually, what can happen will happen.
Civilization, with its persisting war system, won’t survive for the long haul if we just keep on playing this kind of Russian Roulette.
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2022/07/the-fate-of-human-civili
zation.html
In case 6ix can't understand, Putin has a revolver which he points at the US and then pulls the trigger. Just because his modified version of Russian Roulette has not yet killed the US is a bad reason for Putin to keep pulling the trigger, again and again, amusing himself with, perhaps, an unloaded revolver.
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In case 6ix can't understand, Putin has a revolver which he points at the US and then pulls the trigger. Just because his modified version of Russian Roulette has not yet killed the US is a bad reason for Putin to keep pulling the trigger, again and again, amusing himself with, perhaps, an unloaded revolver.
Don't worry about me, jackass. There is nothing that a nitwit like you could possibly write that even our resident dumbass Ted couldn't cobble together.
The only thing that is incomprehensible here is how you could possibly have ever been so thoroughly propagandized.
Ted's a fuckin' meat popsicle, so he's got a solid excuse. You've got at least 20 IQ points on Ted. What on earth is yours?
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SECOND, dood- I majored in chemistry and minored in physics. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis.
We lived for decades with Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). The USA has been seeking first strike capability since then, ducking out of treaties and forward-positioning missiles. Reducing the decision time from 30 minutes to 5-10.
Russia just put us back to Mutual Assured Destruction, and the neocons' asses are chapped.
If they don't like it, they can always negotiate. Honestly, this time.
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Unless the world leaders know that we're actually legit out of gas and they aren't telling us, there is NO SCENARIO where I'm worried about Russians having nukes.
I don't even care for a second that North Korea or China has nukes.
The ONLY people I'm worried about having nuclear capability is Muslims in countries that we've taken out their secular leaders and allowed savage bible bouncing wack jobs who believe they're serving a god that will reward them for killing infadels in the after life take the reins.
USA, Russia and North Korea and China are Predators.
Muslims are Aliens.
(Note: This is not a scene from Aliens. It is one of countless examples of Muslim men that the unelected European Union leaders allowed in sneaking up on underage European girls before they rape them.)
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Quote:You and 6ixStringJack are so silly. 6ix keeps on with his "I'm a brave little boy!" act. It is cute, 6ix, but you are not brave at all. I could test that in person, but you already know it and are trying to hide from yourself.
Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND, dood- I majored in chemistry and minored in physics. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis.
We lived for decades with Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). The USA has been seeking first strike capability since then, ducking out of treaties and forward-positioning missiles. Reducing the decision time from 30 minutes to 5-10.
Russia just put us back to Mutual Assured Destruction, and the neocons' asses are chapped.
If they don't like it, they can always negotiate. Honestly, this time.
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Signym, you are sillier than 6ix. Putin is playing Russian Roulette. He knows the gun is not loaded. I know it. He is doing the dramatic act almost every time he speaks in public for the amazement of his Russians who want to feel their country is strong. It is! Truly is! Russia is strong in the same way North Korea is strong, but in more important ways, the economy and life span and peacefulness and sanity, Russia and North Korea are the same. Both are weaklings. And both weakened themselves. Their prosperous neighbors, Finland and South Korea, didn't weaken Russia and North Korea. The leadership of Russia and North Korea can't admit the neighbors are doing much better than they are and don't want to fix what is wrong with Russia and N Korea because the very first step would be their resignation. They know how incompetent they are and no self-help book is gonna fix them. They have to quit their jobs and go into retirement, the same thing Signym and 6ix have done.
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Chinese leader Xi Jinping made his most direct criticism yet of Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine on Friday, warning the Russian president not to resort to nuclear weapons.
The international community, said Xi, should “jointly oppose the use of, or threats to use, nuclear weapons,” according to a statement carried by Xinhua, China’s state news agency. The world should also “advocate that nuclear weapons cannot be used, a nuclear war cannot be waged, in order to prevent a nuclear crisis” in Europe or Asia, Xi added.
Xi also called for “improving the humanitarian situation” in the crisis areas, especially during the winter.
Still, the Chinese leader, who before the war referred to Putin as his best friend, notably stopped short of asking Russia to withdraw, a key demand for Ukraine and its Western backers. He also made no mention of Putin’s refusal to honor the U.N. agreement on facilitating Ukrainian grain exports, with his premier instead advocating the export of Chinese grain to help ease the food crisis.
In September Putin publicly acknowledged for the first time that Xi had “questions” and “concerns” about the war. Shortly after that meeting between the Chinese and Russian leaders, Putin upped the ante and raised the notion that nuclear weapons could be used. “To defend Russia and our people, we doubtlessly will use all weapons resources at our disposal,” Putin said. “This is not a bluff.” Translation: This is a bluff.
https://www.politico.eu/article/china-xi-jinping-warns-vladimir-putin-
not-to-use-nuclear-arms-in-ukraine-olaf-scholz-germany-peace-talks/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh Jeezus, SECOND. It's very simple: Putin doesn't want nuclear missiles or NATO forces on his border.
He may have to concede on the NATO forces, but he's going to hang rough on the nukes
This isn't about occupying territory, you stupid sod. The Russians tried that already and it didn't work well for them. They don't intend to repeat that mistake.
Elite Russian Naval Unit Reacts to Stunning Loss of 300 Men: 'Baffling'
A high-ranking unit in the Russian navy is reportedly reeling after experiencing significant losses in a recent offensive.
The 155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade was involved in a Wednesday attack on a Ukrainian military garrison in Pavlivka, a town southwest of the recently annexed Donetsk region, according to The Moscow Times on Monday. The offensive was intended to give Russian forces access to a key supply line in the area.
In the wake of the offensive, the elite naval unit is reportedly pointing the finger at "baffling" leadership decisions that led to the loss of roughly 300 men. These complaints were made in a letter shared by a handful of Russian media figures online, which was sent by the unit to regional leaders in its home region in Russia's Far East.
The introductory paragraph saw the marines of the unit accuse their leaders of being motivated by pay bonuses, promises, and military honors.
"Once again, we were thrown into a baffling offensive by General Muradov and his fellow countryman Akhmedov in order for Muradov to earn bonuses in front of [Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff for the Russian military] and Akhmedov Muradov promised a hero of Russia," the letter reads, as translated by the online program, Yandex. "As a result, we and the Kamchatka Marines are advancing on Pavlivka. As a result of a 'carefully' planned offensive by the 'great commanders', we lost about 300 people killed, wounded, and missing in 4 days. 50 percent of the equipment. This is just our team."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/elite-russian-naval-unit-reacts-t
o-stunning-loss-of-300-men-baffling/ar-AA13Q76I?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b3980b5fb179460ebc7bcd539b5bcff2
Poor comrade signym. Once again, she has to backtrack on her earlier comments about Russia invading Ukraine and what they were attempting to do. Now she claims Putin only wanted to stop NATO from putting Nukes on the Russian border. This is something NATO never attempted to do.
Yet, Putin in his ultimate wisdom, choose to sacrifice nearly 80 thousand dead or wounded Russians “so far”, and the better part of his military equipment, to stop something that wasn’t happening.
You can’t sell it comrade. The cats out of the bag. Without nukes Russia has a third-rate army, correction, had a third-rate army before they invaded Ukraine.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You and 6ixStringJack are so silly. 6ix keeps on with his "I'm a brave little boy!" act. It is cute, 6ix, but you are not brave at all. I could test that in person, but you already know it and are trying to hide from yourself.
Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND, dood- I majored in chemistry and minored in physics. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis.
We lived for decades with Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). The USA has been seeking first strike capability since then, ducking out of treaties and forward-positioning missiles. Reducing the decision time from 30 minutes to 5-10.
Russia just put us back to Mutual Assured Destruction, and the neocons' asses are chapped.
If they don't like it, they can always negotiate. Honestly, this time.
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Who's the one spouting nuclear fear porn?
Who's the little fraidycat who got jabbed multiple times, Mudblood?
SPOILER ALERT: It ain't me.
You're a pussy.
Oh. And if that's a threat about coming to my house and doing something, you are more than welcome to come here and try.
What's that? You don't know where I live? Why not? I know where you live.
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Quote:6ix, I didn't know you could get crazier, but you did. It could be the chemical fumes from last night's bamboo table painting got into your brain: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11642
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who's the one spouting nuclear fear porn?
Who's the little fraidycat who got jabbed multiple times, Mudblood?
SPOILER ALERT: It ain't me.
You're a pussy.
Oh. And if that's a threat about coming to my house and doing something, you are more than welcome to come here and try.
What's that? You don't know where I live? Why not? I know where you live.
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After killing your brain with years of alcohol and, last night, with paint chemicals, 6ix is energized by the thrill of voting for America's Own Fascist Party.
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I have a suggested replacement motto for "Make America Great Again" since that translates as "America Is Not So Great For Angry Poor White Trash".
The MAGA replacement motto is "We Are Stronger Together" which translates as "We Are Weak Individuals."
Russia has a perfect motto: "Putin – khuylo!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin_khuylo!
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SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves.
The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU!
AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, I didn't know you could get crazier, but you did. It could be the chemical fumes from last night's bamboo table painting got into your brain: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11642
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who's the one spouting nuclear fear porn?
Who's the little fraidycat who got jabbed multiple times, Mudblood?
SPOILER ALERT: It ain't me.
You're a pussy.
Oh. And if that's a threat about coming to my house and doing something, you are more than welcome to come here and try.
What's that? You don't know where I live? Why not? I know where you live.
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OH MY GOD!!! HE USED PAINT???? ON A TABLE!!!!!?????
Get fucked retard.
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After killing your brain with years of alcohol and, last night, with paint chemicals, 6ix is energized by the thrill of voting for America's Own Fascist Party.
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I shit out more burnt up braincells than you'll ever have in your life, buddy.
The reason that we can't communicate with each other is because I don't speak stupid.
Go talk to Ted. He's the only one here you have a prayer of communicating with. You and I might as well be different species I'm so beyond your meager intellect.
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I have a suggested replacement motto for "Make America Great Again" since that translates as "America Is Not So Great For Angry Poor White Trash".
I got a better one. MAGA = Make Affordable Gas Again.
Have fun watching your party get destroyed tonight retard.
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Quote:Signym, are you looking forward to Russia's imminent victory? Ukraine is so small and Russia is so large and the EU is so poor and close to collapse any day. Signym, who are you for real? You could write propaganda for https://www.rt.com/tags/op-ed/
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves.
The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU!
AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it.
A high-ranking unit in the Russian navy is reportedly reeling after experiencing significant losses in a recent offensive.
The 155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade was involved in a Wednesday attack on a Ukrainian military garrison in Pavlivka, a town southwest of the recently annexed Donetsk region, according to The Moscow Times on Monday. The offensive was intended to give Russian forces access to a key supply line in the area.
In the wake of the offensive, the elite naval unit is reportedly pointing the finger at "baffling" leadership decisions that led to the loss of roughly 300 men. These complaints were made in a letter shared by a handful of Russian media figures online, which was sent by the unit to regional leaders in its home region in Russia's Far East.
The introductory paragraph saw the marines of the unit accuse their leaders of being motivated by pay bonuses, promises, and military honors.
"Once again, we were thrown into a baffling offensive by General Muradov and his fellow countryman Akhmedov in order for Muradov to earn bonuses in front of [Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff for the Russian military] and Akhmedov Muradov promised a hero of Russia," the letter reads, as translated by the online program, Yandex. "As a result, we and the Kamchatka Marines are advancing on Pavlivka. As a result of a 'carefully' planned offensive by the 'great commanders', we lost about 300 people killed, wounded, and missing in 4 days. 50 percent of the equipment. This is just our team."
State-run media figures have also acknowledged the existence of the letter, based on one journalist's Telegram post, but they did not go into great detail about its contents.
The letter further accuses their leaders of hiding the true statistics from higher-ups for fear of facing accountability for their failures. They also continued to accuse them of leading men into doomed offensives for the sake of boosting their own prestige.
"The district command together with [the brigade commander] are hiding this... for fear of accountability," the letter circulated continued. "They don't care about anything other than showing off. They call people meat."
In their own report on the Pavlivka offensive, the Ukrainian military said that its troops seized several armored vehicles from Russian forces, which included a T-80BVM tank.
"Over the past 24 hours, the units of the Defense Forces have repelled attacks of Russian occupiers in the areas of the settlements of Verkhnyokamgyanske, Spirne, Maryinka, Novomykhaylivka, Vodâne, and Pavlivka of Donetsk region," the Ukrainian army said Friday via its official Facebook page.
The statement continued: "The enemy conducts shelling of Defense Forces units along the line of encounter, carries out fortification equipment of the borders in individual directions and conducts air reconnaissance. It continues to strike critical infrastructure and civilian housing, in violation of International Humanitarian Law... and custom
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Nobody cares.
Are you seeing what's happening right now?
SPOILER ALERT: Check Miami-Dade Co.
OPPS!
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Here you go. I print-screened the map for you because you're stupid.
With 74% of the vote in, per CNN, DeSantis leads Crist by just shy of double digits in Miami-Dade fuckin' County.
You Dems really dun fucked up.
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Quote:Crocodile tears? Really?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves.
The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU!
AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it.
SECOND: Signym blah blah blah Ukraine is so small and Russia is so large
I wonder how much $$ Zelenskiy got for turning Ukrainians into cannon fodder.
I would love to see you, THUGR, and CAPN wake up and smell the coffee.
Yanno, we had a good run as world hegemon, and our petrodollar/ reserve currency status allowed up to splash our money around the globe. And TBH it benefitted the average USA citizen for a while.
But that hasn't been the case for at least 30 years (thank you, Clinton, for making us financialists) and our constant war mongering is only benefiting a VERY small elite in the WEF, MIC, and various oligarchs that we shower with $$. And earned us a crapton of blowback
So maybe we should sort out our own house first, and prepare to be a nation among nations. Able to stand on our own feet instead of constantly tromping on everyone else's.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Here you go. I print-screened the map for you because you're stupid.
With 74% of the vote in, per CNN, DeSantis leads Crist by just shy of double digits in Miami-Dade fuckin' County.
You Dems really dun fucked up.
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With 95% in Miami-Dade, DeSantis is up almost 12 points on Crist now. Anybody with half a brain cell knew that DeSantis was going to win, but nobody knew it would be by this much. After Trump gets his second term, DeSantis will be your President for 8 more years.
My condolences to the citizens of Maryland and Massachusetts, but we already knew what those morons were going go do going into this.
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Quote:The U.N. General Assembly is due to vote next week on a draft resolution recognising that Russia must be responsible for reparation in Ukraine for the injury, including any damage, caused by "internationally wrongful acts." The text has been put forward by Ukraine, Canada, Guatemala and the Netherlands.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Crocodile tears? Really?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you and THUGR live in fanatsy worlds. You believe liars, and you lie to everyone including yourselves.
The EU isn't prosperous. Southern European countries imploded in 2008 and many haven't recovered. They're facing a cold, dark, hungry winter... and a million or more desperate Ukrainian refugees. This is where their financialism, woo-woo ideology and geopolitical satrapy landed them. Best of luck, EU!
AFA as nuclear weapons are concerned, Russia has countered every USA aggression. We are no longer nuclear-dominant. We face two conventional powers, not one. And two nuclear powers, not one. So, best of luck to us! Were going to need it.
SECOND: Signym blah blah blah Ukraine is so small and Russia is so large
I wonder how much $$ Zelenskiy got for turning Ukrainians into cannon fodder.
I would love to see you, THUGR, and CAPN wake up and smell the coffee.
Yanno, we had a good run as world hegemon, and our petrodollar/ reserve currency status allowed up to splash our money around the globe. And TBH it benefitted the average USA citizen for a while.
But that hasn't been the case for at least 30 years (thank you, Clinton, for making us financialists) and our constant war mongering is only benefiting a VERY small elite in the WEF, MIC, and various oligarchs that we shower with $$. And earned us a crapton of blowback
So maybe we should sort out our own house first, and prepare to be a nation among nations. Able to stand on our own feet instead of constantly tromping on everyone else's.
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Three-quarters of the 193-member General Assembly voted in March to denounce Russia's invasion and then again in October to condemn Moscow's attempted annexation of parts of Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-promises-not-to-give-up-a
-single-centimetre-to-russia-in-east/ar-AA13TKXq
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Well... I guess we get to hear about this for two more years now.
Anybody want to start a pool for how much of our money Biden* is going to give child rapist cross dresser Zelensky before his single term ends?
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Quote:6ix, what happened to the confident person you were yesterday? But no need for you to worry because there is another election scheduled for 2024 and, until then, Trump will be fine. Once Trump is reelected, he will bring peace in Ukraine with his marvelous negotiation skills, just as he brought peace between North Korea and South Korea with his highly productive personal diplomacy with Kim Jong-un, completely cutting out the President of South Korea from the negotiations. Trump can do the same magic with Putin, while Trump excludes the President of Ukraine from the negotiations. Who needs Volodymyr Zelenskyy when Trump can spend all his time talking to Putin in secret meetings with no stenographer recording what was said?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... I guess we get to hear about this for two more years now.
Anybody want to start a pool for how much of our money Biden* is going to give child rapist cross dresser Zelensky before his single term ends?
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President Trump went to 'extraordinary lengths' to hide details of Putin meetings
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/13/trump-putin-me
etings-interpreter-notes/2565471002/
Trump hid his calls with Putin. What was said between the two leaders is a great mystery.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/09/biden-can-access-trump-putin-
calls-468100
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Nov 09, 11:32 AM EST
Russia’s defense minister and top commander in Ukraine announced Wednesday that Russian troops will pull back from the key city of Kherson in southern Ukraine.
Defense minister Sergey Shoigu said he accepted a proposal from Russian Gen. Sergey Surovikin to order Russian forces to retreat to the eastern bank of the Dnieper River, in effect abandoning the city of Kherson.
Surovikin said it was a “very difficult decision” and justified it as necessary to save the lives of Russian soldiers and to preserve their capacity for future operations.
“Besides that, it frees up part of the forces and resources, which will be employed for active actions, including offensive, in other directions,” Surovikin said in the televised meeting with Shoigu.
Kherson is the only regional capital the Russians have occupied since 2014. The city and the surrounding area act as a gateway to Crimea Peninsula, which was annexed by Russia in 2014.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/russia-ukraine/?id=8
8905005#92988945
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I got a better one. MAGA = Make Affordable Gas Again.
Have fun watching your party get destroyed tonight retard.
The only party that got destroyed is yours. And MAGA actually stands for; Make Lawyers Get Lawyers.
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According to various independent analysts, it's been clear as mud what the Russian command would decide about Kherson. They've been making moves ... evacuating citizens and removing historic artifacts... that could be interpreted as either a planned defense or a planned retreat. They've also been building fortifications and trenches, which looked very much like a committed defense. But ultimately I guess the logistics of defending the far (western) side of a wide river looked too difficult and too costly.
Well, this is war. It would be unusual for one side or the other to experience unending victory. Inevitably there will be setbacks for both sides. Plus, think this is more in line with Russian strategy, which is NOT to take and hold ground, but to wear down Kiev's military while preserving their own.
So once the ground freezes, expect to see a Kiev offensive in Kherson. It will probably come with huge losses for Kiev since the western side of the river will be within artillery range of Russians.
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Quote:Signym, you obfuscate. This war made you unrealistically optimistic about Russia's future prospects, Signym, but there are people who actually know what the prospects are. To keep them quiet about what they know, they are being threatened with death or imprisonment:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
According to various independent analysts, it's been clear as mud what the Russian command would decide about Kherson. They've been making moves ... evacuating citizens and removing historic artifacts... that could be interpreted as either a planned defense or a planned retreat. They've also been building fortifications and trenches, which looked very much like a committed defense. But ultimately I guess the logistics of defending the far (western) side of a wide river looked too difficult and too costly.
Well, this is war. It would be unusual for one side or the other to experience unending victory. Inevitably there will be setbacks for both sides. Plus, think this is more in line with Russian strategy, which is NOT to take and hold ground, but to wear down Kiev's military while preserving their own.
So once the ground freezes, expect to see a Kiev offensive in Kherson. It will probably come with huge losses for Kiev since the western side of the river will be within artillery range of Russians.
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Russia's elite are worried for their safety after an ally of President Vladimir Putin said those who aren't enthusiastic enough about the war in Ukraine should be repressed, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.
Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Putin loyalist and founder of the paramilitary Wagner Group, said that Russian tycoons who are not supportive enough over the conflict should face "urgent Stalinist repressions", Bloomberg reported, citing unnamed sources.
The "Stalinist repressions" are a reference to Russia's Great Purge, a political campaign led by Soviet dictator Josef Stalin in 1937 that aimed to eliminate anyone in his party he considered a threat.
Prigozhin's comments have alarmed top Russian business executives and government officials, who told Bloomberg they are worried about the direction the war is going, and fear purges and arbitrary arrests.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-elite-fear-for-their-saf
ety-after-a-putin-ally-advocated-punishing-those-who-don-t-support-the-war-report-says/ar-AA13VhMw
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Nah...
Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems.
Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons.
Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike.
Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win.
What does winning lookike?
Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture.
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Quote:Russia’s objectives in the war against Ukraine are anything but clear.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nah...
Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems.
Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons.
Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike.
Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win.
What does winning lookike?
Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
They have included “denazification” and “decommunisation”;
ensuring the security of inhabitants of the Donbas;
the demilitarisation and non-admission of Ukraine to Nato;
the return of formerly Russian lands;
the protection of the Russian language;
and even the “saving” of Ukrainian cities from gay parades.
The lack of clearly defined objectives makes the definition of victory uncertain. But this ambiguity also makes the criteria for defeat unclear — let alone one so bad as to endanger Putin. In fact, the Russian president had already survived several serious defeats: the invasion’s opening “blitzkrieg” failed, and Russian troops were forced to retreat from around Kyiv and several other cities. Russia lost the Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, and abandoned Snake Island, its first successful capture from the start of the war. After the hasty retreat from the outskirts of Kharkiv, another symbolically important target — the bridge to Crimea — was attacked. Other leaders might have already been toppled by such military failures, but not Putin.
The fact is that Putin’s supporters do not perceive the invasion of Ukraine as an act of aggression. For them, it’s a retaliation against the much more powerful west. Researchers of Russian society are observing a startling paradox. History puts Russia in a row of vast western colonial empires. But after its defeat in the cold war, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic hardships of the 1990s, a growing number of Russians felt they had been reduced to a colony ruled by western forces. They now believe they are casting off the yoke which so humiliated their country and “imposed” capitalism upon it.
In the eyes of dissatisfied Russians, any form of resistance to the west is a victory, almost regardless of the end result. Even in retreat, they will console themselves with the thought of having prevented Russia’s “further enslavement”. This is why there is no direct link between military setbacks and the weakening of Putin’s power. It is as difficult for the president to lose this war as it is to win it. Domestically, even the invasion itself is a sort of victory. Meanwhile, the passive majority can be convinced that any outcome is the best possible one. And the critics will be silenced with repression, just as they are now.
Peace endangers Putin’s status as the challenger of the west. The Russian president is pushed int
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
According to various independent analysts, it's been clear as mud what the Russian command would decide about Kherson. They've been making moves ... evacuating citizens and removing historic artifacts... that could be interpreted as either a planned defense or a planned retreat. They've also been building fortifications and trenches, which looked very much like a committed defense. But ultimately I guess the logistics of defending the far (western) side of a wide river looked too difficult and too costly.
Well, this is war. It would be unusual for one side or the other to experience unending victory. Inevitably there will be setbacks for both sides. Plus, think this is more in line with Russian strategy, which is NOT to take and hold ground, but to wear down Kiev's military while preserving their own.
So once the ground freezes, expect to see a Kiev offensive in Kherson. It will probably come with huge losses for Kiev since the western side of the river will be within artillery range of Russians.
When the Ukrainians move forward they will be able to hit anywhere the Russians set up in Ukraine. So good luck with that comrade.
Did you notice they waited for the midterms so Biden would not get a boost for America's role in beating Russia? I told you so comrade.
Hey signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?
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Putin’s dreams of establishing Russia as a great power on the back of its military strength are over, and so too are his ambitions of securing a legacy as one of the nation’s great state-builders. His reputation as a geopolitical mastermind is in tatters. Putin-the-man may still cling to power for years, but Putin-the-legend is dead.
Even brittle and stagnating regimes can hold on for a long time. Tsarist Russia was arguably brain-dead by 1911, when the brutally reformist Prime Minister Petr Stolypin was assassinated, but it still lasted through three years of catastrophe in the First World War before crumbling in 1917.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/opinions/after-putin-power-health-regim
e-galeotti/index.html
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Zelensky announced that he would hold peace negotiations if Russia agreed to five preconditions:
That they would restore Ukraine’s territorial integrity,
respect U.N. resolutions on the war,
pay to repair all damages caused by the war,
punish war criminals, and
guarantee that an invasion won’t happen again.
Noticeably missing from this list is a demand — which was part of an earlier, otherwise similar announcement — that Putin leave office. Zelensky signed a decree in October stating that Ukraine will never negotiate with Putin, though left open the possibility of holding talks with Putin’s successor. Given that Putin’s primary motive is to stay in power, this in effect put diplomacy off the table. The fact that the new demands say nothing about Putin’s fate retrieves the prospect of diplomacy from oblivion.
The prospects are still very dim. It is extremely unlikely that Putin would concede to any of Zelensky’s current five demands. But to an outside observer, the conditions at least seem reasonable. They hoist Zelensky to the high ground of any moral equation; they allow wavering supporters of Ukraine to conclude that he is interested in a diplomatic solution to the war.
If Putin were suddenly to become open to peace talks, his troop withdrawal from Kherson would facilitate the possibility. If both sides agreed someday to a cease-fire, the Dnieper river would be a natural line of demarcation—clear, unambiguous, and easily monitored. The line could also serve as the starting point of a peace negotiation. But, again, neither side seems quite ready for that: Zelensky thinks he’s winning; Putin thinks he’s not yet losing. The war seems likely to drag on for quite a while longer.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/11/russia-withdrawal-from-khe
rson.html
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Originally posted by second:
Putin’s dreams of establishing Russia as a great power on the back of its military strength are over, and so too are his ambitions of securing a legacy as one of the nation’s great state-builders. His reputation as a geopolitical mastermind is in tatters. Putin-the-man may still cling to power for years, but Putin-the-legend is dead.
Even brittle and stagnating regimes can hold on for a long time. Tsarist Russia was arguably brain-dead by 1911, when the brutally reformist Prime Minister Petr Stolypin was assassinated, but it still lasted through three years of catastrophe in the First World War before crumbling in 1917.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/opinions/after-putin-power-health-regim
e-galeotti/index.html
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Poor polish Russian collaborator signym. After years of posting bullshit reality has smacked her in the mouth.
I wonder, can_she_see_me_lauhging?
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The UK defense ministry said in its daily assessment of the conflict that Russian forces have likely started deploying "barrier troops" or "blocking units" to deal with their own retreating soldiers.
According to recent media reports, both mobilized Russian soldiers and their officers are fleeing from combat in Ukraine.
Independent news outlet Verstka cited a Russian soldier on November 7 who said that his unit's commanders had fled from the front line near Makiivka on November 2. In contrast his battalion was ordered to dig trenches and hold defensive positions.
On Thursday, Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov demanded that the death penalty be reinstated in Russia for "traitors" and soldiers who retreat from battle in Ukraine.
Solovyov, an ally of Putin, made the remarks during his radio show Full Contact (Polny Contakt) shortly after Russia announced its withdrawal from the key Ukrainian city of Kherson.
"I believe that we should reject the moratorium on the death penalty and introduce articles allowing the execution of traitors and their accomplices, terrorists and their accomplices, sponsors, and financiers, including shooting deserters," he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-soldiers-are-being-shot-a
t-if-they-abandon-positions-wives-claim/ar-AA13ZNCq
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The Hunger Games inspires the Russian ambassador's fake stories. Ambassador will never admit he is lying to please Putin.
Moscow's ambassador to the U.S. has claimed that foreigners fighting alongside Ukraine's forces were "hunting" Russians fighting in the war.
Anatoly Antonov, a former deputy defense minister who has been the Russian envoy to Washington since 2017, told the Izvestia newspaper that "criminals" and "mercenaries" had joined the fight against Moscow's forces since Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine began on February 24.
Antonov said: "No one hides this in the West, a huge number of mercenaries and criminals of various stripes have accumulated on Ukrainian territory."
He added that they were "using the current situation as a kind of safari" and that they were "hunting for Russian lives."
Izvestia reported that he also said the West was using Ukraine as "an instrument of struggle" against Russia and that "there is a desire to make a third-rate state out of us, or even better — to split it up." I'll guess that the ambassador is inspired by some other science fiction movie that I am unfamiliar with to create this lie.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/antonov-russia-ukraine-war-mercenary-hunting-
safari-1758888
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Russia’s objectives in the war against Ukraine are anything but clear.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nah...
Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems.
Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons.
Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike.
Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win.
What does winning lookike?
Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
They have included “denazification” and “decommunisation”;
ensuring the security of inhabitants of the Donbas;
the demilitarisation and non-admission of Ukraine to Nato;
the return of formerly Russian lands;
the protection of the Russian language;
and even the “saving” of Ukrainian cities from gay parades.
The lack of clearly defined objectives makes the definition of victory uncertain. But this ambiguity also makes the criteria for defeat unclear — let alone one so bad as to endanger Putin. In fact, the Russian president had already survived several serious defeats: the invasion’s opening “blitzkrieg” failed, and Russian troops were forced to retreat from around Kyiv and several other cities. Russia lost the Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, and abandoned Snake Island, its first successful capture from the start of the war. After the hasty retreat from the outskirts of Kharkiv, another symbolically important target — the bridge to Crimea — was attacked. Other leaders might have already been toppled by such military failures, but not Putin.
The fact is that Putin’s supporters do not perceive the invasion of Ukraine as an act of aggression. For them, it’s a retaliation against the much more powerful west. Researchers of Russian society are observing a startling paradox. History puts Russia in a row of vast western colonial empires. But after its defeat in the cold war, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic hardships of the 1990s, a growing number of Russians felt they had been reduced to a colony ruled by western forces. They now believe they are casting off the yoke which so humiliated their country and “imposed” capitalism upon it.
In the eyes of dissatisfied Russians, any form of resistance to the west is a victory, almost regardless of the end result. Even in retreat, they will console themselves with the thought of having prevented Russia’s “further enslavement”. This is why there is no direct link between military setbacks and the weakening of Putin’s power. It is as difficult for the president to lose this war as it is to win it. Domestically, even the invasion itself is a sort of victory. Meanwhile, the passive majority can be convinced that any outcome is the best possible one. And the critics will be silenced with repression, just as they are now.
Peace endangers Putin’s status as the challenger of the w
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Quote:I assume you are unaware that close to 99% of all Russians are hypocrites, fakers, cowards, shirkers, and liars at every opportunity? How would I know? Where is the proof? The best Russians left Russia, leaving the worst in charge. It is so very easy for the hollow inside people, the leftover Russians, to support war (such is their worthlessness) and yet, when forced into combat, they prove themselves to be one of the 99% who are hollow men performing in no way as if they believe in what they "support" in their overheated imaginations. About 50% of Americans are like that and they struggle to stay in the middle-class because they are hollow, painting their exterior to appear as solid individuals, but inside they are hypocrites, fakers, cowards, shirkers, liars, gluttons, drunks, just like 99% of Russians. With 99% of Russians being hollow it is inevitable that Russia is much poorer than America with only 50% hollow. It would be a better world if more of the hollow people would remake themselves into whole people.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, you're saying that Russia's war in Ukraine has widespread support in Russia?
Then you day that Russian soldiers are running away, and that the Ptin "regime" only stays in power bc people are afraid of him??
Do you suppose it's possible for you to bang your propaganda points together, and decide on ONE story, instead of splattering the board with contradictory crap?
Or are you just a committed crap-blaster?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I assume you are unaware that close to 99% of all Russians are hypocrites, fakers, cowards, shirkers, and liars at every opportunity?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, you're saying that Russia's war in Ukraine has widespread support in Russia?
Then you day that Russian soldiers are running away, and that the Ptin "regime" only stays in power bc people are afraid of him??
Do you suppose it's possible for you to bang your propaganda points together, and decide on ONE story, instead of splattering the board with contradictory crap?
Or are you just a committed crap-blaster?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Wow. And you question that Russians don't like Americans and Americanization? Your attitude towards Russia and Russians is loud and clear. And, Russians aren't THAT stupid that they would keep coming back for another ass-rape and teeth-kicking.
Quote:How many? Which ones?
How would I know? Where is the proof? The best Russians left Russia,
I mean, I know many crooked oligarchs left Russia, and you seem to like oligarchs well enough, so maybe you think oligarchs are "the best people"?
Aside from oligarchs, what percentage has left? 1%?
Quote:Is THAT your definition of a good person? Someone who is comfortably in the middle class?
SECOND leaving the worst in charge. It is so very easy for the hollow inside people, the leftover Russians, to support war (such is their worthlessness) and yet, when forced into combat, they prove themselves to be one of the 99% who are hollow men performing in no way as if they believe in what they "support" in their overheated imaginations. About 50% of Americans are like that and they struggle to stay in the middle-class
Boy, are YOU a twisted soul!
Quote:
SECOND blah blah blah
Got tired of your incoherent mind.
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What SECOND, THUGR,. and CAPN don't understand is that we- the collective west (EU, NATO, USA)- are throwing everything we have ... and I mean literally everything we have short of nukes, tanks, fighter jets, and (a lot of) troops... into Ukraine.
Not just weapons, intel, and other military assets but entire economies and finances thrown into the furnace.
Analysis of weapons available to Ukraine
The UK and Germany are toast, economically. Ukraine is toast; it's infrastructure is crippled, at least a third of it's people have left and appx 100,000 men have been killed already.
This is like an under-the-table war, where neither side is willing to admit how much they're putting into it.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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What SECOND, THUGR,. and CAPN don't understand is that we- the collective west (EU, NATO, USA)- are throwing everything we have ... and I mean literally everything we have short of nukes, tanks, fighter jets, and (a lot of) troops... into Ukraine.
Not just weapons, intel, and other military assets but entire economies and finances thrown into the furnace.
Analysis of weapons available to Ukraine
The UK and Germany are toast, economically. Ukraine is toast; it's infrastructure is crippled, at least a third of it's people have left and appx 100,000 men have been killed already.
This is like an under-the-table war, where neither side is willing to admit how much they're putting into it.
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Quote:I've always thought of you as a Goofy-like character.
Originally posted by THG:
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Are you sure that's the impression you want to reinforce?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Nah...
Russian Security Council always knew it would be Russia v NATO/USA. They've been preparing for this since at least 2007: forging economic ties with China, oil- and gas-producing nations (Iran, Saudi Arabia), erstwhile neutral nations (India), and geographically important nations (Turkey, the 'stans). Building up their military and hardening their economy and financial systems.
Looking back, I can see that they hoped their feint towards Kiev would impel Kiev to negotiate. It almost, but ultimately didn't work. But they had backup plans, and backup plans to backup plans. Unlike before, tho, Russia doesn't intend to lose another 26 million in war. That's why the slow approach with standoff weapons.
Since we've been invading poor, militarily disorganized nations we've gotten used to seeing a pattern of warfare: bomb the snot out of everything, civilian and military targets alike, and then - when everything is flattened- send in the troops. If anything is still moving, call in an airstrike.
Russia doesn't seem to be doing that. They're fighting the whole collective west, so they're being conservative. It's not an easy fight. But it is a fight that I think Russia will ultimately win.
What does winning lookike?
Not taking Ukraine or any other European nation, that's for sure. I think it means a whole new security architecture.
So, you're saying that Russia's war in Ukraine has widespread support in Russia?
Then you day that Russian soldiers are running away, and that the Ptin "regime" only stays in power bc people are afraid of him??
Do you suppose it's possible for you to bang your propaganda points together, and decide on ONE story, instead of splattering the board with contradictory crap?
Or are you just a committed crap-blaster?
Can_you_see_me_laughing?
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Quote:How many Russians have been displaced by this war? About zero because the War has only been fought on Ukrainian land.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What SECOND, THUGR,. and CAPN don't understand is that we- the collective west (EU, NATO, USA)- are throwing everything we have ... and I mean literally everything we have short of nukes, tanks, fighter jets, and (a lot of) troops... into Ukraine.
Not just weapons, intel, and other military assets but entire economies and finances thrown into the furnace.
Analysis of weapons available to Ukraine
The UK and Germany are toast, economically. Ukraine is toast; it's infrastructure is crippled, at least a third of it's people have left and appx 100,000 men have been killed already.
This is like an under-the-table war, where neither side is willing to admit how much they're putting into it.
Russia destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars of Ukrainian real estate. How much Russian real estate value has been destroyed by Ukraine? Approximately zero because the battles are all fought on Ukrainian land, not inside Russia.
Russia has destroyed trillions of dollars in economic activity inside Europe by cutting off fuel to Europe. How much of the Russian economy has been destroyed by the EU? Approximately zero according to Signym and Putin.
This is the most one-sided war there can be, where the EU and Ukraine are afflicted with millions of refugees and $trillions of damage caused by Russia while the Russians are almost untouched, except on the battlefield, which just so happens to be all inside Ukraine because the Armies of the EU and Nato and the USA are NOT attacking Russia.
What is happening on the Ukrainian battlefield to Russia? If nothing is happening to the Russian Army then the EU and Nato and the USA need to move this war into Russia and start damaging Russian property and the Russian economy and making Russian refugees. According to Putin, his economy is undamaged.
The US Department of Defense has released a statement saying the Russian forces have not only lost tens of thousands of soldiers, but also half of their main battle tanks (MBT).
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3214909/russ
ia-suffers-catastrophic-strategic-disaster-in-ukraine/
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Nobody cares.
I'm flat out rooting for Russia now.
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Quote:The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia can't find buyers for its natural gas, which just so happens to be very profitable for Texas, which can sell all the natural gas it produces since Texas is not at war with anybody.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
I'm flat out rooting for Russia now.
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Quote:Except, if course, for the bottleneck of turning nat gas into LNG and shipping it overseas.
Originally posted by second:Quote:The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia can't find buyers for its natural gas, which just so happens to be very profitable for Texas, which can sell all the natural gas it produces since Texas is not at war with anybody.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
I'm flat out rooting for Russia now.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Russia has no problems selling natgas to China and India. The high prices are a result of the EU and UK shooting themselves in the foot and blowing up the Nordstreams. Now they have to pay ANY price for non-Russian natgas, and since this is a global commodity spot prices rise everywhere.
PS: The USA is at war with Russia.
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Quote:I have often been amazed at how much money the Pentagon can spend without tangible results to show the American public. In Ukraine, there is something to show. Although Ukraine is a very small expense compared to what the Pentagon spends in a typical year, the Pentagon is getting back a great deal of accurate information about the adversary the Pentagon has used for the last 77 years to justify around $100 trillion in spending, adjusting past spending for inflation to 2022 dollars:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
PS: The USA is at war with Russia.
November 09, 2022 - Democratic President Joe Biden, with little congressional review, has sent nearly $20 billion in arms and humanitarian aid to Ukraine since the war started in late February.
https://www.voanews.com/a/democrats-republicans-say-they-will-back-ukr
aine-whoever-controls-congress/6827454.html
Biden's 2023 Budget Proposal Sees Another $6.9 Billion For Ukraine, NATO
https://www.rferl.org/a/biden-budget-ukraine-nato/31774703.html
Each year federal agencies receive funding from Congress, known as budgetary resources. In FY 2022, the Department of Defense (DOD) had $1.94 Trillion distributed among its 6 sub-components. Agencies spend available budgetary resources by making financial promises called obligations.
https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/department-of-defense?fy=2022
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Except, if course, for the bottleneck of turning nat gas into LNG and shipping it overseas.
Originally posted by second:Quote:The longer this war goes on, the longer Russia can't find buyers for its natural gas, which just so happens to be very profitable for Texas, which can sell all the natural gas it produces since Texas is not at war with anybody.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody cares.
I'm flat out rooting for Russia now.
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I'm a Democrat now. Let's erase history, burn everything down and start over. China's going to end up owning everything anyways.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Russia has no problems selling natgas to China and India. The high prices are a result of the EU and UK shooting themselves in the foot and blowing up the Nordstreams. Now they have to pay ANY price for non-Russian natgas, and since this is a global commodity spot prices rise everywhere.
PS: The USA is at war with Russia.
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Oh. I know the US is at war with Russia. And we're sending in idiot Ukraine citizens in to die for Raytheon.
I'd vote Putin over Biden in 2024 if he were on the ticket.
Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Democrats. Fuck Neo-Cons. Fuck NATO. Fuck the War Machine.
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"After defeat in Kherson, Russia’s status as a great state is questionable,” one pro-Putin political analyst revealed following the withdrawal. "They will be putting pressure on, and demand soft capitulation.”
“If Russia wants to win, we must switch the economy into a military regime,” the strategist added. “This decision is already six months late. We have got to be tougher. Tougher. Drones, communication, missiles and shells must be produced by our factories 24/7.”
The failure to launch the Poseidon missiles from the Belgorod, and the retreat from the Ukrainian city of Kherson, also comes as a vast majority of Putin’s troops are either surrendering, mutinying or begging the Kremlin’s top brass officials to change their strategy in the war against their neighboring nation.
https://radaronline.com/p/vladimir-putin-suffers-loss-doomsday-nuclear
-powered-torpedo-fails-launch/
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Originally posted by second:
November 09, 2022 - Democratic President Joe Biden, with little congressional review, has sent nearly $20 billion in arms and humanitarian aid to Ukraine since the war started in late February.
https://www.voanews.com/a/democrats-republicans-say-they-will-back-ukr
aine-whoever-controls-congress/6827454.html
Biden's 2023 Budget Proposal Sees Another $6.9 Billion For Ukraine, NATO
https://www.rferl.org/a/biden-budget-ukraine-nato/31774703.html
That's enough US taxpayer dollars to end world hunger for almost 5 years according to Twitter.
Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Surovikin’s Difficult Choice
Russia Abandons Kherson
Big Serge
5 hr ago
General Armageddon
In January, 1944, the newly reconstituted German Sixth Army found itself in an operationally cataclysmic situation in the southern bend of the Dnieper River, in the area of Krivoi Rog and Nikopol. The Germans occupied a dangerous salient, jutting out precariously into the Red Army’s lines. Vulnerable on two awkward flanks, and facing an enemy with superiority in manpower and firepower, any general worth his salt would have sought to withdraw as soon as possible. In this case, however, Hitler insisted that the Wehrmacht hold the salient, because the region was Germany’s last remaining source of manganese - a mineral crucial for making high quality steel.
A year prior, in the opening weeks of 1943, Hitler had intervened in another, more famous battle, forbidding the previous incarnation of the Sixth Army from breaking out of a pocket forming around it at Stalingrad. Prohibited from withdrawing, the Sixth was annihilated wholesale.
In both of these cases, there was a clash between pure military prudence and broader political aims and needs. In 1943, there was neither a compelling military nor political reason to keep the 6th Army in the pocket at Stalingrad - political intervention in military decision making was both senseless and disasterous. In 1944, however, Hitler (however difficult it is to admit it) had a valid argument. Without manganese from the Nikopol area, German war production was doomed. In this case, political intervention was perhaps warranted. Leaving an army in a vulnerable salient is bad, but so is running out of manganese.
These two tragic fates of the Sixth Army illustrate the salient issue today: how do we parse the difference between military and political decision making? More specifically, to what do we attribute the shocking Russian decision to withdraw from the west bank of the Dnieper in Kherson oblast, after annexing it just a few months ago?
I would like to parse through this issue. First off, one cannot deny that the withdrawal is politically a significant humiliation for Russia. The question becomes, however, whether this sacrifice was necessary on military or political grounds, and what it may signify about the future course of the conflict.
As I see it, the withdrawal from west bank Kherson must be driven by one of the four following possibilities:
The Ukrainian Army has defeated the Russian Army on the west bank and driven it back across the river.
Russia is setting a trap in Kherson.
A secret peace agreement (or at least ceasefire) has been negotiated which includes giving Kherson back to Ukraine.
Russia has made a politically embarrassing but militarily prudent operational choice.
Let us simply run through these four and examine them in sequence.
Possibility 1: Military Defeat
The recapture of Kherson is being fairly celebrated by Ukrainians as a victory. The question is just what kind of victory it is - political/optical, or military? It becomes trivially obvious that it is the first sort. Let’s examine a few facts.
First off, as recently as the morning of November 9 - hours before the withdrawal was announced - some Russian war correspondents were expressing skepticism about the withdrawal rumors because Russia’s forward defensive lines were completely intact. There was no semblance of crisis among Russian forces in the region.
Secondly, Ukraine was not executing any intense offensive efforts in the region at the time the withdrawal began, and Ukrainian officials expressed skepticism that the withdrawal was even real. Indeed, the idea that Russia was laying a trap originates with Ukrainian officials who were apparently caught off guard by the withdrawal. Ukraine was not prepared to pursue or exploit, and advanced cautiously into the void after Russian soldiers were gone. Even with Russia withdrawing, they were clearly scared to advance, because their last few attempts to push through the defenses in the area became mass casualty even
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Quote:https://bigserge.substack.com/p/surovkins-difficult-choice
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Surovikin’s Difficult Choice
Russia Abandons Kherson
Big Serge <-- WHO IS THIS?
Ultimate, there seems to be no deal that satisfies both sides, and this reflects that the innate hostility between the two nations must be resolved on the battlefield. Only Ares can adjudicate this dispute.
As for Ares, he has been hard at work in Pavlovka.
While the world was fixated on the relatively bloodless change of hands in Kherson, Russia and Ukraine fought a bloody battle for Pavlovka, and Russia won. Ukraine also attempted to break Russia’s defenses in the Svatove axis, and was repulsed with heavy casualties. Ultimately, the main reason to doubt news of a secret deal is the fact that the war is continuing on all the other fronts - and Ukraine is losing. This leaves only one option.
Signym, this is a load of bullshit from the anonymous BigSerge. The comment section is pure Russian propaganda:
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To all those who may be dooming or wildly rejoicing. This war is not between Russia and Ukraine. This is not even war, this is a special military operation and for good reason. Let me elaborate. First things first this struggle is between American empire and Russia, not Russia and the west, and certainly not Russia and Ukraine. The empire chose to precipitate matters maybe as an example for China or to have Russia defeated before attacking China. Regardless why, what was intended was for Russia to come in all guns blazing takeover all of Ukraine in short order and THEN get mired in a long bloody insurgency loosing men materiel and treasure. The freezing of assets and overwhelming sanctions would then further deteriorate the internal conditions such as that political instability would set in finally resulting in regime change. Russia could then be raped dismembered devoured by the empire at leisure. This is why the special military operation is a special military operation and not a war. The objective here is not simply to defeat the Ukrainian army, it is rather designed to bring maximum damage to the empire while keeping the costs for Russia manageable. The Russian campaign is running on simmer being careful not to let the situation boil over at any point. The pace of operations is glacial on purpose. The longer the conflict is drawn out the more harm the empire and it's allies will endure. Their policies will result in self inflicted pain, their hubris will not let them walk back to more sensible positions. The empire is trapped in a pit it has dug, its allies are mere hostages. Is there a point of pain that can be reached where the citizens of Europe may demand of their leaders to revolt against the empire? Who knows if such a point exists, if it is reached this winter or the next? However there is another sphere where the battle is taking place and that is in the nation's that are not in the hallowed west. Here in the nations some poor and some not so much an evaluation of prospects is being done. Siding with the west is safe from reprisals but in the emerging economic scenario might be tantamount to suicide. Even the dimmest leaders know their fate if they fail to keep their citizens fed and supplied with essentials. Considerable shifts have already materialised and more are sure to follow as things get tighter. The empire potentially losing European allies or losing influence across the globe are far more valuable objectives than a quick roll up of the Ukrainian army.
Signym, that is a long paragraph, but the propaganda is just getting started:
On the tactical side the Ukrainian leadership continues to throw it's troops onto prepared Russian defences and continues to suffer unfavorable casualty ratio of at least 1 to 5 if not more. Can Ukraine continue this frivolous behaviour for another six months a year two years? Can they continue to be supplied for as long? Can the West ,will the west continue to foot the bill to keep Ukraine running and fighting? How many more Ukrainian refugees wi
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All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Quote:6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead. Didn't happen. Likewise, the Russian propagandists predict Ukraine is dead and for the same psychological reasons as 6ix shoots his mouth off about Democrats. Russian propagandists don't need to know the truth or even recognize that truth exists because that would slow the rate at which they produce rubbish, falsehoods and subtle deceit for publication. https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2022-midterm-election/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of.
Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life.
All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now.
The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh?
My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out.
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Quote:6ix, you are insane. Likewise, Putin is insane but he directs more of his craziness and misunderstanding of reality toward Ukraine than toward Democrats. The two of you, three if you count Signym, have got much in common:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of.
Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life.
All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now.
The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh?
My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out.
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Russia’s objectives in the war against Ukraine are anything but clear.
They have included “denazification” and “decommunisation”;
ensuring the security of inhabitants of the Donbas;
the demilitarisation and non-admission of Ukraine to Nato;
the return of formerly Russian lands;
the protection of the Russian language;
and even the “saving” of Ukrainian cities from gay parades.
The lack of clearly defined objectives makes the definition of victory uncertain. But this ambiguity also makes the criteria for defeat unclear — let alone one so bad as to endanger Putin. In fact, the Russian president had already survived several serious defeats: the invasion’s opening “blitzkrieg” failed, and Russian troops were forced to retreat from around Kyiv and several other cities. Russia lost the Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, and abandoned Snake Island, its first successful capture from the start of the war. After the hasty retreat from the outskirts of Kharkiv, another symbolically important target — the bridge to Crimea — was attacked. Other leaders might have already been toppled by such military failures, but not Putin.
The fact is that Putin’s supporters do not perceive the invasion of Ukraine as an act of aggression. For them, it’s a retaliation against the much more powerful west. Researchers of Russian society are observing a startling paradox. History puts Russia in a row of vast western colonial empires. But after its defeat in the cold war, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic hardships of the 1990s, a growing number of Russians felt they had been reduced to a colony ruled by western forces. They now believe they are casting off the yoke which so humiliated their country and “imposed” capitalism upon it.
In the eyes of dissatisfied Russians, any form of resistance to the west is a victory, almost regardless of the end result. Even in retreat, they will console themselves with the thought of having prevented Russia’s “further enslavement”. This is why there is no direct link between military setbacks and the weakening of Putin’s power. It is as difficult for the president to lose this war as it is to win it. Domestically, even the invasion itself is a sort of victory. Meanwhile, the passive majority can be convinced that any outcome is the best possible one. And the critics will be silenced with repression, just as they are now.
Peace endangers Putin’s status as the challenger of the west. The Russian president is pushed into a virtually endless war for its own sake.
https://www.ft.com/content/01cdcc3e-22b9-4230-ac11-6c7056098f3f
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Published: October 12, 2022
The Russian draft isn’t likely to help Vladimir Putin win the war in Ukraine
New troops are unlikely to turn the tide in eastern Ukraine.
Understanding the effect of the mobilization requires a bit of background in the organization of the Russian military.
The Russian military is designed around the idea that in the event of war with NATO, professional units — with advanced weapons and the skills to use them — are fleshed out and supported by large numbers of newly mobilized individuals. Military service is mandatory for young Russian men aged 18 to 27.
When Russia invaded Ukraine, however, it did not mobilize its population. Instead, only professional units were used, with Rosgvardia (Russian National Guard) and conscripts undertaking their mandatory military service, employed to try and make up the difference.
Current Russian retreats show the war has wreaked havoc on professional units.
The Ukrainian military clearly developed a detailed plan to confront a Russian invasion that allowed them to inflict heavy losses. This involved using small groups, armed with advanced anti-tank weapons like the American Javelin and British NLAW rockets, to harass Russian forces. Russia’s logistical challenges exacerbated this, leading to bottlenecks and poor organization that only made Ukraine more successful.
Russia’s professional military — the backbone of its capacity to mobilize — has been heavily degraded.
Adding 300,000 soldiers will only worsen this problem.
Though Russia retains far more military hardware than Ukraine, its ability to use it — which is what ultimately matters — has been depleted.
Ukraine’s primary advantage is morale rather than hardware. The war has strengthened Ukrainian nationalism, giving its soldiers a genuine feeling of fighting for liberation. Russian forces, on the other hand, face the reality of fighting an unsuccessful war of aggression against people many regard as being just like them.
Morale gulf
As Russia introduces 300,000 reservists who are not happy to be in the armed forces in the first place, the morale gulf between the Russian and Ukraine forces will become more pronounced. Right now, it’s unlikely an influx of reluctant Russian troops will drastically change the outcome of the war.
More at https://theconversation.com/the-russian-draft-isnt-likely-to-help-vlad
imir-putin-win-the-war-in-ukraine-191838
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Posting on Telegram, Ultranationalist Alexander Dugin, known as "Putin's Brain," called the Russian president an autocrat with ultimate power over the war as he accused him of "surrendering" the city on November 12.
He said that the retreat undermines Russian ideology by failing to defend "Russian cities." On 30 September President Putin formally annexed four Ukrainian provinces, including the southern Kherson region, into Russia.
Pro-war Dugin, whose daughter was killed in a Moscow car explosion earlier this year, said an autocrat has a responsibility to save his nation all by himself or face the fate of the "king of the rains," according to the Institute for the Study of War (ISW). The U.S. think tank said the quote was a reference to Sir James Frazer's 'The Golden Bough', where a king was killed because he was unable to deliver rain amidst a drought.
The ISW added: "Dugin also noted that the autocrat cannot repair this deviation from ideology merely with public appearances, noting that 'the authorities in Russia cannot surrender anything else' and that 'the limit has been reached.'"
Dugin then referenced the use of tactical nuclear weapons. According to the ISW: "He (Dugin) suggested, however, that Russia must commit to the Russian idea rather than pursuing the 'stupid' use of nuclear weapons." (Is there a 'smart' use? Is Russian 'smart' nearly the same as 'stupid'?)
Russian state TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov, who is nicknamed "Putin's voice" due to his support of the president, expressed frustration at Moscow's forces blowing up bridges as they retreated from Kherson.
On Saturday, Solovyov, appearing on his Vesti FM radio show 'Full Contact,' claimed Russia had withdrawn its troops from some parts of Ukraine as a "goodwill gesture." But he soon became increasingly animated and suggested the Russian army should have attacked Ukrainian infrastructure earlier as he discussed reports that troops had blown up bridges across the Dnipro river during their retreat.
He said: "I've been screaming out loud since February that we need to strike the bridges, destroy the infrastructure, delivery entryways. They [Russian military] said, 'You don't understand anything, they'll bring their equipment to the same area and we will smash it!'
"So did you smash it? You don't understand, it's a brotherly nation, we'll have to restore these bridges, we'll enter through them." He added: "Where? Where will we enter? When they were leaving [Kherson], they blew up the bridges. Where are we going to enter?"
Newsweek has contacted the U.K. Ministry of Defence and the Kremlin for comment.
(The question being asked by Newsweek: Are Russians crazy? Or do they only appear crazy because they are the most brilliant people with the greatest military minds on Earth?)
More at https://www.newsweek.com/putins-brain-turns-russian-leader-king-rains-
warning-1759139
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are insane.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of.
Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life.
All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now.
The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh?
My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out.
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No. I'm not.
You didn't notice that yet, did you?
Democrat Popular vote (2022): 47,301,792 - 46.7%
Republican Popular vote (2022): 52,084,705 - 51.4%
Republicans (2022) - +4.7
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2022/house/
Republicans managed so far to have nearly 5 Million more votes than Democrats did in the popular vote. Two years ago, Democrats had 5 Million more votes than Republicans in California alone.
California Democrat votes (2020): 11,110,250 63.5% 34.3%
California Republican votes (2020): 6,006,429
California Democrats (2020) - 29.2%
https://www.cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker
You guys cheated. Twice now.
How many times do you suppose you're going to get away with that?
You are going to find out.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Surovikin’s Difficult Choice
Russia Abandons Kherson
Big Serge
SECUND: <-- WHO IS THIS?
I don't know. Who cares?
Does what he post make sense, or not?
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Big Serge: ... hard at work in Pavlovka.
While the world was fixated on the relatively bloodless change of hands in Kherson, Russia and Ukraine fought a bloody battle for Pavlovka, and Russia won. Ukraine also attempted to break Russia’s defenses in the Svatove axis, and was repulsed with heavy casualties. ... https://bigserge.substack.com/p/surovkins-difficult-choice
SECOND: Signym, this is a load of bullshit from the anonymous BigSerge.
YOU don't mind posting anonymous sources, so . BFD.
Yes, Russia just took Pavlovka. Not sure where the focus will be next. I heard a couple of comments elsewhere that made sense. One of them was that Surovikin was made overall commander bc the militias were each fighting their own war, attacking Bakhmut then switching to Advivka, launching a scattering of unfocused attacks. (This was a bit like Syria, that really didn't have a national army, just a hodgepodge of essentially local militias. It was difficult to get a militia to fight in another region, so defenses were scattered and unfocused. Eventually Russia gave up trying to retrain the Syrian Army and just created a whole new division. But that's another story.)
The other is that Surovikin will have to show SOMEthing for this tactic. Apparently it was a hard-fought decision that had been argued over for a long time. The military wanted one thing, the politicians wanted something else.
I wonder if maybe Russia annexed territories not so much to take land but to unify the military command and increase its population. But again, that's another story.
Quote:But I didn't post, or even read, the comment section. It's not what Big Serge posted, so ...
SECOND: The comment section is pure Russian propaganda:
Did what he write make sense? Is it consistent with the facts? It seems so to me.
Why aren't you addressing that instead of going off in the comments?
Oh, I know. It's bc you can't.
I notice that whenever your argument runs into trouble you change the topic. Usually you post something about Trump and insult people.
So obvious.
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Quote:Consistency and logic are easy to create, Signym. Novelists create consistency and logic as a way of life. Perhaps you read The Lord of the Rings? Tolkien's world creation is consistent and logical, but it is not real. Neither is Big Serge's world creation real. Despite Tolkien and Big Serge being in the same business, you don't believe either, except if you suspend your judgment and become a believer in fantasies.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not what Big Serge posted, so ...
Did what he write make sense? Is it consistent with the facts? It seems so to me.
Why aren't you addressing that instead of going off in the comments?
Oh, I know. It's bc you can't.
I notice that whenever your argument runs into trouble you change the topic. Usually you post something about Trump and insult people.
So obvious.
Here is an example of a fantasy, but it does have some real quotes from other people's fantasies:
A creeping coup is underway in Russia as high-ranking officials are deliberately not carrying out orders properly to "sabotage" Vladimir Putin, a respected Moscow political analyst has claimed. The Russian president is being hit by a “paralysis in decision-making”, according to analyst Kirill Rogov.
While Mr Rogov does not expect an “archaic palace coup” as the president’s “powerful” security service will protect him, he has still forecast that ultimately “it will disappear with him”.
Unease with the war in Ukraine and its impact on the economy and society is threatening Putin’s power, he indicated.
Mr Rogov was formerly a leading research fellow at the Institute for Economic Policy, and the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration, and is now a senior researcher with the INDEM Foundation and a Board Member of the Liberal Mission Foundation.
He said: “A conspiracy can be a creeping one. Sabotage of decisions becomes the most effective type of plot.” A refusal to execute decisions “does not imply high risks” but is effective in undermining the regime, he claimed on YouTube in a channel linked to the Andrei Sakharov Foundation.
“When some fraction of the elites feels strong enough to show it, then it becomes a plot to a significant extent,” said Rogov, who has previously advised the Russian government. “It is enough to have the forces that will not allow the president’s security service to arrest you…”
His words could indicate a widespread resistance to Putin and his war within high-ranking officials, with Russian officials and others finding subtle means to disrupt his operations.
“It is hard to conduct an archaic palace coup, but that is not necessary, because political mechanisms work differently.” He stated:”If some fraction [of the Russian elites] has enough power to make decisions and to disobey, and to be invulnerable in their area of responsibility, then it already is a collapse of management which is followed by serious consequences….
“Because everyone else sees that it can be done, and unpleasant things start happening.”
Meanwhile one of Putin’s leading cronies issued an appeal for Russians to stay loyal to the beleaguered president.
“Only the closest unity, daily hard work and the highest morale can ensure victory for the country,” said ex-president Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of the Kremlin’s shadowy security council.
His statement, appearing to smack of desperation, ignored the humiliating loss of Kherson.
“It is Russia that protects its citizens,” he said,“and that it is our country that returns and has already returned its ancestral Russian land…and this will continue.”
He claimed it was Putin and “not the States and Britain or dark Kyiv” that was “shaping the future world order”, and that Russia “alone is fighting NATO and the Western world”. “Therefore any parallels with the past are wrong or tentative. Except for one: we alone know how to destroy a powerful enemy or enemy alliances.”
The Putin apologist said: “Russia is fighting, trying to save the
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not what Big Serge posted, so ...
Did what he write make sense? Is it consistent with the facts? It seems so to me.
Why aren't you addressing that instead of going off in the comments?
Oh, I know. It's bc you can't.
I notice that whenever your argument runs into trouble you change the topic. Usually you post something about Trump and insult people.
So obvious.
SECOND: Consistency and logic are easy to create, Signym. Novelists create consistency and logic as a way of life. Perhaps you read The Lord of the Rings? Tolkien's world creation is consistent and logical, but it is not real.
blah blah blah ...
There's one thing missing from your bullshit... well, there ate several things missing from your crap splatter, SECOND.
Logic.
And consistency.
Bc you CONSTANTLY contradict yourself.
That's a problem with lying: it's hatd to keep your story straight, innit?
You don't even bother with that anymore, do you?
But besides that, the other important missing thing?
Evidence.
You think that if you post some made-up gossip, rumor, and allegation (which btw contradicts your other gossip, rumors, and allegations*) that has anything to do with reality?
It's completely knowable whether Russia withdrew from an area, or took an area.
* For example, you JUST POSTED that Putin has widespread support. Now you're posting that there are coup plotters. That's why I don't read your posts. They're as meaningful as crap-splatters on a wall.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are insane.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, it was just last week that you predicted the Democratic Party is dead.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
All you do is post propaganda dude.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Mail in fraud is a thing that needs to be taken care of.
Have you stopped to ask yourself just how in the hell the Republicans won the popular vote in the mid-terms? That hasn't happened once before in my life.
All it takes is a bunch of harvested, unsolicited mail-in fraud ballots in swing states to win. You guys have done it twice now.
The funny thing is that you never do it in states like California and New York because you should always win those and look what happened there. A few surprises, huh?
My predictions are sound. You guys keep cheating and you'll get that Civil War you keep talking about. Fuck around and find out.
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No. I'm not.
You didn't notice that yet, did you?
Democrat Popular vote (2022): 47,301,792 - 46.7%
Republican Popular vote (2022): 52,084,705 - 51.4%
Republicans (2022) - +4.7
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2022/house/
Republicans managed so far to have nearly 5 Million more votes than Democrats did in the popular vote. Two years ago, Democrats had 5 Million more votes than Republicans in California alone.
California Democrat votes (2020): 11,110,250 63.5% 34.3%
California Republican votes (2020): 6,006,429
California Democrats (2020) - 29.2%
https://www.cookpolitical.com/2020-national-popular-vote-tracker
You guys cheated. Twice now.
How many times do you suppose you're going to get away with that?
You are going to find out.
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Quote:Let's make it clear: Russian military leadership needs a bullet in the back of the head. Two to make sure it is dead. Hunting season is now open.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There's one thing missing from your bullshit... well, there ate several things missing from your crap splatter, SECOND.
Logic.
And consistency.
Bc you CONSTANTLY contradict yourself.
The West must stop ‘shooting behind the duck’ and provide Ukraine with the weapons it needs
by Garrett I. Campbell, Opinion Contributor
8-10 minutes
Eight months into Russia’s invasion, Vladimir Putin remains committed to the territorial conquest and destruction of Ukraine. Ukrainians have had successes, such as the recent counteroffensive around Kharkiv and now Russia’s ordered pullout from Kherson. Still, the future is uncertain, with winter approaching and the outcome of Putin’s mobilization in play. The West must stop “shooting behind the duck” regarding its military aid to Ukraine.
Ukraine has shown it can defeat Russian forces and deter future Russian aggression, but it requires Western leaders to recognize what Russia is doing militarily and what is needed to defeat it. It’s time for the West to send a strong message to Putin and his generals that come spring, their military will meet a worse fate if they renew the offensive.
Russia’s strategic approach to the war is neither haphazard nor representative of a military power grasping at straws. Russia is pursuing a war-of-attrition strategy meant to slowly wear down the Ukrainian military while relentlessly destroying civilian infrastructure. Putin is playing the long game and, predictably, has fallen back on traditional Russian military strategy and doctrine.
After its defeat in the initial phase of the war and the battle for Kyiv, Russia shifted its military strategy to seizing the Donbas. The shift represented a definitive return to Russia’s traditional doctrinal approach of attrition warfare. It quickly became evident that Ukraine needed weapons to offset Russian firepower advantages, more than simply Javelins and Stingers. Withholding heavier weapons contributed to the destruction of Ukrainian cities such as Mariupol, Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk. From May to July, many observers opined that Ukrainian military losses were unsustainable, and in an effort to avoid the destruction of its Donbas forces, the Ukrainians retreated from their last positions in Luhansk Oblast, allowing the Russians to occupy roughly 25 percent of Ukrainian territory.
Wars of attrition go both ways, however, and the Russian strategy of attrition effectively exhausted their own army. As Russia paused to reconstitute its forces, Ukraine began to field an influx of Western artillery systems, including HIMARS, to destroy Russian command-and-control and logistics hubs and key infrastructure such as the bridges, robbing the Russians of the operational pause they needed and setting the stage for Ukraine’s counteroffensive.
While the Russians prepared for the counteroffensive around Kherson, Ukraine’s biggest success came by exploiting the weakened Russian defenses around Kharkiv. With the momentum again swinging in favor of Ukraine, the Russian military responded by shifting their strategy — again in line with Russian military doctrine. The shift to an air and missile campaign with the aim of decimating Ukraine’s civil and military infrastructure is central to attrition warfare. However, the West once more found itself shooting behind the duck and scrambling to bolster Ukraine’s air defenses.
While rightfully characterized as a “terror campaign” against Ukrainian civilians, we are witnessing the execution of well-known elements of Russian military doctrine — strategic aerospace operations against critical infrastructure meant to disorganize and undermine an adversary’s war effort. It’s a rough version of Russian strategic aerospace operations (SAO) and strategic operations to destroy critical infrastructure targets (SODCIT), two of the four Russian mil
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Didn't even bother to read, SECOND.
It prolly contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
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Didn't even bother to read, SECOND.
It prolly contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
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Day 264
Zelenskiy accused Russian soldiers of war crimes and killing civilians in Kherson. “Investigators have already documented more than 400 Russian war crimes. Bodies of dead civilians and servicemen have been found. The Russian army left behind the same savagery it did in other regions of the country it entered,” he said on Sunday.
Significant new damage to the major Nova Kakhovka dam in southern Ukraine, which the Russians attempted to blow up during their withdrawal from nearby Kherson, was seen via satellite imagery from US company Maxar. Ukrainian authorities are trying to assess the damage and it is not clear if the structural integrity of the reservoir is at risk. With a water volume of 18.2 cubic km, the reservoir could flood a huge area, including the city of Kherson, if destroyed.
Pro-Moscow forces are putting up a fierce fight in the eastern Donetsk region. “Battles in Donetsk region are just as intense as they have been in previous days,” Zelenskiy said in his nightly video address. “The level of Russian attacks has not declined. And the level of our resilience and courage is at its highest. We will not allow them through our defence.”
US Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, said some sanctions on Russia could remain in place even after any peace agreement with Ukraine, the Wall Street Journal reported. Yellen said that any eventual peace agreement would involve a review of the penalties the US and its allies have imposed on Russia’s economy, according to the Journal. “I suppose in the context of some peace agreement, adjustment of sanctions is possible and could be appropriate,” Yellen said in an interview in Indonesia, where she is attending the G20 summit.
Russia’s education minister, Sergey Kravstov, has said that military training will return to Russian schools next September, according to the latest update by the UK’s Ministry of Defence. The programme is supported by Russia’s Ministry of Defence, which states that no less than 140 hours per academic year should be devoted to this training.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/14/russia-ukraine-war-at-a-
glance-what-we-know-on-day-265-of-the-invasion
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Both sides are already fighting in very muddy conditions. They will not likely stop fighting when winter freezes the ground and makes it even more conducive to large-scale mechanized maneuver warfare. Combat is more likely to intensify than to slacken as temperatures drop.
Any attempt at a ceasefire or cessation of hostilities at this time would overwhelmingly favor Russia. Putin should desire such a ceasefire in his own interest. He should recognize that he needs to give his forces time to recover and allow the reservists flowing into the theater time to integrate into their units, train up, and prepare for serious combat. He should want to stop the Ukrainians from capitalizing on the emotional lift of their recent victories. The fact that Putin continues to whip his generals to offensives in these circumstances is thus a grave error from a military perspective. It likely results from whatever psychological factors led Putin to order the invasion in the first place but also increasingly from Putin’s need to show his toughness to the hardline faction led, at least in public, by Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin. Putin is unlikely to be willing to seek a ceasefire, therefore, unless it is accompanied by tremendous Ukrainian or international concessions.
Napoleon famously quipped: Never interrupt your enemy whilst he is in the midst of making a mistake. That aphorism has never been truer — Ukraine and its backers should take advantage of Putin’s error by continuing to press the counter-offensive in circumstances far more favorable to Kyiv than to Moscow.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221114075054/https://www.understandingwa
r.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Putin’s losing. Now what?
Western allies are war-gaming scenarios, from accelerating civilian atrocities in Ukraine to sabotage in Europe to Russian schemes to bide time.
Sabotage European life
Russia is unlikely to directly challenge a NATO ally, but the Kremlin appears increasingly willing to clandestinely take out the systems undergirding NATO countries’ societies.
First, there were explosions on the Nord Stream undersea gas pipelines linking Russia and Europe — a sabotage plot with suspected Kremlin fingerprints.
Then, over the weekend, someone cut the cables keeping Germany’s trains running, raising the specter of another possible Kremlin plot.
Other possible sabotage scenarios are, disturbingly, myriad.
“We have many pipelines, oil and gas, we have data cables,” said Latvia’s Prime Minister Krišjanis Karinš.
“We simply need to increase our own awareness of what could be vulnerable,” he said in a phone interview, “and then strengthen the defense of our potentially vulnerable infrastructure.”
NATO conceded earlier this year in an updated strategy document that such “hybrid attacks” could grow serious enough to trigger the military alliance’s Article 5 clause, which states that a military attack on one ally is an attack on all.
Speaking on Tuesday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters that following the Nord Stream incidents the alliance has “doubled” its presence in the Baltic and North Seas and that allies are “increasing security around key installations.”
Yet despite efforts over the past years to boost “resilience” across NATO, experts and officials acknowledge that Europe’s infrastructure networks are so vast — and often owned by private companies — that governments’ options are limited.
National authorities can increase patrols, on land and sea — thus boosting deterrence — but even then it is not feasible to monitor everything. There’s also the cyber threat, which adds yet another unwieldy dimension.
“It is very difficult” to assess in advance where and how an attack could happen, and to adopt protective measures, said Brauss.
“In general,” he added, “we all are vulnerable.”
Buy time
While Putin is seemingly raising the stakes, experts said he is also likely trying to buy time, hoping that cold weather will change the conflict’s dynamics and the west will ultimately tire of arming and funding Ukraine.
“Putin has shifted from ‘how do I win this?’ to ‘how do I avoid losing this?’ approach,” said Mark Galeotti, a senior associate fellow at the Royal United Services Institute. He called the Russian leader’s approach “strategic patience.”
Putin’s move to draft several hundred thousand new Russians into the fight is part of this ploy, experts argued.
“The whole purpose for this is to trade bodies for time,” said Hodges, the former American commander.
Western leaders are well aware Putin is betting on war fatigue and high energy prices to reduce public interest in supporting Ukraine. In response, there is a sense in western capitals that Ukraine’s allies must develop their own long-term strategy and still consider Putin — despite the setbacks — a vital threat.
“The problem,” according to one senior western European diplomat, “is that he is still strong, or has strong capabilities at his disposal. Our response to unpredictability can only be predictability. This is what we have ensured over the past months.”
Russia watchers also cautioned that Moscow’s long game — whether under Putin or a possible future regime — can go far beyond Ukraine. Russia has an extensive history of fueling unrest abroad, with a particular focus on the former Soviet countries along the EU’s eastern edge.
“I believe we have to be prepared for further escalations,” said Daniel S. Hamilton, a former U.S. official who is now a senior fellow at the SAIS Foreign Policy Institute. Western governments, he argued on a recent panel, must be “prepared for an unsettled situation as far east as you want to go in Europe.”
Threaten the apocal
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Hello SECOND. Anything Putin does only exposes possible holes in NATO's defense, i.e., cyber. That brings them to or attention and allows us to address them. It shows us what else Russia has in its war arsenal and how it plans to wage wars in the future.
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The Russian army’s trouble runs deep
by Alexander J. Motyl, Opinion Contributor, 11/14/22
Nov. 6 may go down in history as one of the most important dates in the Russo-Ukrainian War. On that day, the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian armed forces penned a letter to the governor of Primorsky region in the Far East in which they openly and unabashedly blamed their commanders for the loss of 300 men and half their tanks and mechanized vehicles in just four days of fighting against the Ukrainians. https://t.me/grey_zone/15698
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/07/elite-russian-marine-unit-sl
ams-military-leaders-for-baffling-battle-losses-a79303
Besides accusing their commanders of falsifying casualty data, they also claim that the commanders are incompetent, concerned only with self-promotion, and utterly indifferent to the lives of their men, whom “they call fodder.” Unfortunately, although “there are good commanders, they are a minority that’s been consumed by the system” that favors “these pedophiles,” the letter states. The 155th Brigade concluded its appeal by asking the governor to “turn to the Supreme One” — presumably a reference to Vladimir Putin — to form an independent commission to investigate matters.
The letter is important for several reasons.
First, the marines were not afraid to make these accusations publicly. That may be because they are fearless fighters who want nothing but justice or desperate soldiers on the margins of survival — or both. Either way, Russian soldiers are obviously getting restless. They know, far better than the ethically challenged Russian population and the morally evil Russian elites, just what conditions are like on the front. The soldiers know they are losing, and they know they are losing because the army is poorly led, poorly equipped, and poorly fed. And I’ll bet the marines also suspect that the “Supreme One” has something to do with the catastrophe that is killing them.
Second, if the 155th Brigade is experiencing such doubts and fears, we may be certain that they are not alone. Many other brigades, facing the same kind of incompetence and experiencing the same kind of losses, surely believe that something is grossly amiss in the army and its leadership. All Russian soldiers along the entire front are probably desperate and suffer from low morale and despondency. While writing an appeal to one governor in the distant East does not amount to a rebellion, it does, if multiplied by scores of not-yet-written letters, presage a rebellious mood that will do nothing to hasten a Russian military victory. It will take very little — a trigger, a spark, some chance event — to spur Russian soldiers to mass insubordination. Before long, the Supreme One will become the focus of the soldiers’ ire.
Third, 300 casualties in just four days are a lot. Fifty percent of tanks and other mechanized vehicles is also a stunningly large figure. Not only do these numbers testify to the incompetence of the Russian army but they also suggest, perhaps even prove, that Ukrainian estimates of Russian fatalities are accurate. As of Nov. 9, the Ukrainians claim to have killed 77,950 Russians. In the past two to three weeks, Kyiv estimated that approximately 500 to 800 Russian soldiers lost their lives daily. The numbers strike some analysts as too high, but the marines’ letter lends them a high degree of plausibility. If only one brigade lost that many soldiers, how many soldiers died if that brigade’s experience wasn’t unique?
In a word, Russia is losing badly, and thousands of young Russians are being sacrificed to the maniacal dreams of an unhinged elite and deranged Supreme One.
Just how delusional Russian elites have become is evident in a Nov. 4 Telegram statement by former president and prime minister Dmitry Medvedev, Putin’s sidekick and attack dog. Here’s an especially juicy part that, I emphasize, reflects the rhetoric of the entire Russian elite:
“A part of a dying world is against us today. It’s a handful of mad Nazi drug add
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I haven't bothered to read, SECOND.
It probably contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
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Quote:I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I haven't bothered to read, SECOND.
It probably contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Here are two clues from today that were left at around 3 AM in the morning, when sane people are asleep: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11646
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Quote:The clues about Signym's state of mind are in the songs!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!! I don't know, but I'm glad it hasn't been driiled into my head, yet!
When was it aired??
I generally DON'T listen to music. I knew people at work, it was their passion. They went to Coachella every year and it was like a competition almost to find the newest most under- appreciated group/singer before anyone else did.
I think the only time I listen is when somebody brings something tomy attention. I heard "some of us" on Bones and "Hallelujah" in Shrek. When I was reviewing data somebody brought me a thumb drive of compiled videogame music, so that started me on PrimeCronus. Or I would hear something that somebody was playing at work that was interesting. One of the posters here (I forget who) put me on to Two Cellos, and that popped up the Pentatonix. And if course there's Favorite Songs that exposes me to music I might not have heard otherwise. I bunny trailed my way to the call to prayer (it's quite beautiful), church bells, and other liturgical music.
But mostly, I don't listen. Lots of music passes me by. I actually listen to geopolitical podcasts when I'm working in the kitchen, it keeps me from getting bored but it's what I call "bubblegum for the mind"- I chew on it while it's there but when it's gone, it's gone.
I should probably find a more productive use fro my ears. Stock picks, or something.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Clue 1) "Hallelujah" in Shrek
Clue 2) "some of us" on Bones
So much sadness in each song:
1) Shrek (2001) - Hallelujah Scene
Shrek didn't use the whole song, but here are the complete Shrek Hallelujah Lyrics
2) Bones ~ Some of Us with lyrics
6ixstringJack gave far too many clues about his damaged mind when he reviewed the movie Joker. 6ix convinced me that his life story is as horrifying as the origin story of the Joker. It is absolutely no surprise when 6ix has written a dozen times: "Fuck Ukraine." The movie version of Joker would feel the same toward Ukraine.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I haven't bothered to read, SECOND.
It probably contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
He said Russia is getting its ass kick.
Can_you_see_me_laughing?
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Quote:Son, you don't leave "clues" you leave great sweeping walls of incoherence.
I haven't bothered to read, SECOND.
It probably contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
SECIND: I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind. blah blah blah
And libel, personal insults, and red herrings.
When you start putting some thought into your posts, they might be worth reading.
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Quote:A new clue for Signym, but about Russia rather than about Signym:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Son, you don't leave "clues" you leave great sweeping walls of incoherence.
I haven't bothered to read, SECOND.
It probably contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
SECIND: I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind. blah blah blah
And libel, personal insults, and red herrings.
When you start putting some thought into your posts, they might be worth reading.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
EU at UN-NY @EUatUN tweeted:
Adopted Today @UN General Assembly recognizes Russia must be held accountable for its aggression against Ukraine.
Adopted by 94 to 14 votes, the #UNGA resolution recommends the establishment of a registry of damages & recognizes the need for compensation for damages caused.
European External Action Service - EEAS and 6 others
12:32 PM · Nov 14, 2022 ·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/EUatUN/status/1592224051086651392
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Let's see... 193 members. That's 94 for, 14 against, and 85 abstentions.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I haven't bothered to read, SECOND.
It probably contradicts your immediately previous post.
I hope you don't mind.
SECOND: I have a theory that Signym leaves clues to what is wrong with Signym's mind. blah blah blah
SIGNY: Son, you don't leave "clues" you leave great sweeping walls of incoherence.
And libel, personal insults, and red herrings.
When you start putting some thought into your posts, they might be worth reading.
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SECOND: A new clue for Signym, but about Russia rather than about Signym:
EU at UN-NY @EUatUN tweeted:
Adopted Today @UN General Assembly recognizes Russia must be held accountable for its aggression against Ukraine.
Adopted by 94 to 14 votes,
Since arithemtic isn't your thing, there were more no votes and abstentions (99) than votes for. Not a ringing endorsement, is it?
You know what this is about? Ursula van der Crazy is trying to find a way to seize the Russian assets that they froze last year. The EU is just trying to find a way to steal Russia's money.
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Quote:Obviously, you failed to see the point about Russian behavior, Signym. Will you fail to understand this next point because some nations abstain from expressing their opinion of Russia out of fear of Russia?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Let's see... 193 members. That's 94 for, 14 against, and 85 abstentions.
Since arithemtic isn't your thing, there were more no votes and abstentions (99) than votes for. Not a ringing endorsement, is it?
You know what this is about? Ursula van der Crazy is trying to find a way to seize the Russian assets that they froze last year. The EU is just trying to find a way to steal Russia's money.
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The Death Penalty – Russian Style
Footage of the summary killing of Yevgeny Nuzhin was posted over the weekend by the Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone. In the video, Nuzhin was shown lying down with his head taped to a brick wall as an unidentified man in combat clothing hits him with a sledgehammer.
Wagner is a notorious military group run by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a powerful Russian businessman and a close ally of Vladimir Putin. Prigozhin, who is under western sanctions for his role in Wagner, on Sunday voiced his approval for the killing, calling Nuzhin a “traitor”. “Nuzhin betrayed his people, betrayed his comrades, betrayed consciously,” he said.
Following his capture by Ukrainian forces in September, Nuzhin gave a series of interviews in the country, in which he said he had joined the Wagner group to get out of prison. In the interviews, he criticised the Russian leadership and expressed his desire to join the Ukrainian forces and fight against Moscow. Unconfirmed reports said Nuzhin had been part of a recent Russian-Ukrainian prisoner exchange.
The Kremlin on Monday sought to distance itself from the video, which has been widely discussed on Russian social media, with spokesperson Dmitry Peskov saying “it was not our business”.
More at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/14/family-expresses-horror-
at-video-of-killing-of-russian-wagner-group-defector
Signym didn’t read, but after WWII, the Russians executed Russians who were freed in prisoner exchanges. And not just Russians. https://web.archive.org/web/20190525192646/https://www.latimes.com/arc
hives/la-xpm-1992-11-12-mn-234-story.html
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/forced-repatriation-to-the-soviet-union
-the-secret-betrayal/
Once again, some nations abstain from expressing their opinion of Russia out of fear of Russia. Signym would take abstentions as evidence that Russia is righteous.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Russia has angrily rejected international calls for it to pay for war damage it has inflicted in Ukraine.
The Kremlin said it would work to stop the West seizing its international reserves to pay for reparations.
Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov accused the West of attempting to "formalise robbery" and violate the rules of private property and international law.
There have been previous examples of countries being ordered to pay reparations after conflicts.
The most famous is the 269bn marks that Germany was told to pay by the allies after World War One - around $300bn (£250bn) in today's money.
The high price was intended to ensure that Germany would not be capable of more war for many years.
But it ended up having the opposite effect, as many historians argue the crippling reparations and labelling of Germany as the "guilty" party in the war were a key driver of resentment that led to World War Two.
Germany and other axis powers were also forced to pay reparations after World War Two, but with a greater emphasis on rebuilding damaged infrastructure in Europe than on punishing Germany for its actions.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63632819
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Hey comrade signym...
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I thought this was interesting.
Quote:As an aside, I witnessed this during one of our lab and staff happy hours. The venue was too noisy to have a conversation or share a laugh with the person across the table. The two most vivacious people, both attractive women were sitting next to each other, mugging for their paired selfies, looking like th
The Kherson question
November 15, 2022 22 Comments
Notes and reflections by Nora Hoppe for the Saker blog
To retreat or not to retreat
Preface:
I have no idea about war… I have never experienced one. I understand nothing of military campaigns, strategies, manoeuvres, weapons, etc. I’ve only seen several war films, read novels featuring war and followed the news on various wars…
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I have heard that each war is different, and that comparisons are only useful for “certain aspects”.
I follow the news regularly on Russia’s Special Military Operation in Ukraine. And I have recently read and heard many varying and divisionary views on the withdrawal of Russian troops from Kherson, a city that is now lawfully part of Russia.
Dispensing with the views of the pro-NATO side, which are of no interest, I am observing the division of thought amongst analysts, journalists and commenters in forums siding with the Russians: There are those who are outraged and see the withdrawal from Kherson as “a disgrace”, “a sign of weakness”, “an embarrassment”, “a poor strategy”, “unattractive optics”, etc. Others see it as the outcome of a difficult but wise decision – that was primarily made to save the lives of Russian soldiers, who would have been cut off by a massive flood if NATO were to blow up the Kakhovka Dam. (There may well be additional tactical reasons for the withdrawal, but they are not (yet) known to the public.)
When people speak of the “optics not looking good“… a film set immediately comes to my mind (I have worked in the film world for many years). And that immediately tells me how some people view this operation – as spectators: it has to have a good catchy script, suspense, uninterrupted action and – heaven forbid – no lulls! It has to ultimately supply a dopamine release. It has to have a “Dirty Harry Catharsis”.
This reminds me of similar reactions to the prisoner exchange in mid-September, where some saw it as a sign of weakness to even think of releasing Azov prisoners… or when the Chinese government did not deliver a dramatic retort when Pelosi went to do her skit in Taiwan.
What is at the base of these kinds of reactions? Why such impatience? Why such concern with “appearances”? Why such a need to satiate one’s own personal sense of justice and retribution? Does it have something to do with consuming? Especially in the western world one has become an addicted consumer of not only things but “experiences” that can be lived indirectly.
Today we witness events of other peoples’ wars and battles on computer screens from the comfort of our homes or on our tiny phones from chic cafés… these events can accessed at any moment – just press a key… and they appear – like a scene in a film, a game, a contest, a sports match. Even the dead bodies that lie mangled, bloodied or in gory stumps strewn over the mud become the pieces of a broken puppets on a stage. “Hell, one gets used to it…” The sacredness of Life is gone.
We have become spectators… and our world has become a spectacle.
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In his philosophical work and critique of contemporary consumer culture, “The Society of the Spectacle”, Guy Debord describes modern society as one in which authentic social life has been replaced with its representation: “All that once was directly lived has become mere representation.” He argues that the history of social life can be understood as “the decline of being into having… and having into merely appearing.” This condition is the “historical moment at which the commodity completes its colonisation of social life.”
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Quote:Is this specific enough?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought this was interesting.
I can't claim to know what the Kiev leadership, or the individual soldiers, are fighting for. Or what the Russian leadership and soldiers are fighting for. I'm overall wary of a fight for an ideology... "freedom", "god", "religion", "patriotism" or something equally evanescent. IMHO if you're going to fight for something, it had better be specific.
A WWII refugee from Ukraine links Putin’s war to Stalin’s famine
By Oleh Wolowyna
According to our estimates of the famine’s impact, about 4 million people, or 13% of Soviet Ukraine’s population in 1933, were starved to death between 1932 and 1934, and 600,000 children were not born.
Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is an updated version of Stalin’s deliberately manufactured famine. Stalin denied the famine’s existence; Mr. Putin claimed he had no intention of invading Ukraine. Mentioning the famine was punishable by law, as is the case today with describing the invasion as war. Ukrainians starved to death during the Holodomor because Stalin took away most of the grain produced by Ukrainian peasants; Mr. Putin is stealing hundreds of thousands of tons of Ukrainian grain. In terms of Ukrainian identity, though, Mr. Putin has in some ways gone a step further than Stalin by denying the very existence of Ukraine and claiming that all Ukrainians are Russian.
When the war is over, I will probably return to Ukraine and, with my colleagues there, face the task of documenting a second genocide. We will try to determine how many civilians were killed, how many children were not born because of the war, and what proportion of future generations has been lost forever.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220627192429/https://www.csmonitor.com/C
ommentary/2022/0627/A-WWII-refugee-from-Ukraine-links-Putin-s-war-to-Stalin-s-famine
Is this specific enough for you, Signym?
R.J. Rummel, Lethal Politics - Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 (Published 1990)
While there are estimates of the number of people killed by Soviet authorities during particular episodes or campaigns, until now, no one has tried to calculate the complete human toll of Soviet genocides and mass murders since the revolution of 1917. Here, R. J. Rummel lists and analyzes hundreds of published estimates, presenting them in the historical context in which they occurred. His shocking conclusion is that, conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/
Preface
This book is part of a project on government genocide and mass killing in this century. The aim is to test the hypothesis that the citizens of democracies are the least likely to be murdered by their own governments; the citizens of totalitarian, especially Marxist systems, the most likely. The theory is that democratic systems provide a path to peace, and universalizing them would eliminate war and minimize global political violence. This was the conclusion of my Understanding Conflict and War,' and has been further confirmed by systematic, empirical tests since.
In the process of that research, I discovered that governments have murdered tens of millions of their own citizens, and that in some cases, the death toll may have actually exceeded that of World War II. To get some idea of the numbers involved, I surveyed the extent of genocide and mass killing by governments since 1900. The results were shocking: according to these first figures—independent of war and other kinds of conflict—governments probably have murdered 119,400,000 people—Marxist governments about 95,200,000 of them. By comparison, the battle-killed in all foreign and domestic wars in this century total 35,700,000.
These monstrous statistics sharply reoriented my research. For more than thirty years as a political scienti
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OMG SECIND, you are so stupid.
The point bounced off your fender-head.
You're posting an analogy as a purpose.
"Putin is like Stalin".
I dispute the analogy.
But more importantly, your post doesn't explain what Russia is fighting FOR.
Dunderhead.
* Walks away, muttering*
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Quote:Putin declared what Russia is fighting for. Pick whichever reasons from Putin's list that you think are real reasons, or pick all of them. I think all of Putin's reasons are lies. He invaded Ukraine for his personal glorification in the history books as the next Peter the Great, but the Russian Army is not performing gloriously. If Putin has to kill a few million Ukrainians on his way to being Putin the Great, so it has to be according to Putin:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG SECIND, you are so stupid.
The point bounced off your fender-head.
You're posting an analogy as a purpose.
"Putin is like Stalin".
I dispute the analogy.
But more importantly, your post doesn't explain what Russia is fighting FOR.
Dunderhead.
* Walks away, muttering*
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Russia’s objectives in the war against Ukraine are anything but clear.
They have included “denazification” and “decommunisation”;
ensuring the security of inhabitants of the Donbas;
the demilitarisation and non-admission of Ukraine to Nato;
the return of formerly Russian lands;
the protection of the Russian language;
and even the “saving” of Ukrainian cities from gay parades.
The lack of clearly defined objectives makes the definition of victory uncertain. But this ambiguity also makes the criteria for defeat unclear — let alone one so bad as to endanger Putin. In fact, the Russian president had already survived several serious defeats: the invasion’s opening “blitzkrieg” failed, and Russian troops were forced to retreat from around Kyiv and several other cities. Russia lost the Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, and abandoned Snake Island, its first successful capture from the start of the war. After the hasty retreat from the outskirts of Kharkiv, another symbolically important target — the bridge to Crimea — was attacked. Other leaders might have already been toppled by such military failures, but not Putin.
The fact is that Putin’s supporters do not perceive the invasion of Ukraine as an act of aggression. For them, it’s a retaliation against the much more powerful west. Researchers of Russian society are observing a startling paradox. History puts Russia in a row of vast western colonial empires. But after its defeat in the cold war, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the economic hardships of the 1990s, a growing number of Russians felt they had been reduced to a colony ruled by western forces. They now believe they are casting off the yoke which so humiliated their country and “imposed” capitalism upon it.
In the eyes of dissatisfied Russians, any form of resistance to the west is a victory, almost regardless of the end result. Even in retreat, they will console themselves with the thought of having prevented Russia’s “further enslavement”. This is why there is no direct link between military setbacks and the weakening of Putin’s power. It is as difficult for the president to lose this war as it is to win it. Domestically, even the invasion itself is a sort of victory. Meanwhile, the passive majority can be convinced that any outcome is the best possible one. And the critics will be silenced with repression, just as they are now.
Peace endangers Putin’s status as the challenger of the west. The Russian president is pushed into a virtually endless war for its own sake.
https://www.ft.com/content/01cdcc3e-22b9-4230-ac11-6c7056098f3f
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG SECIND, you are so stupid.
The point bounced off your fender-head.
You're posting an analogy as a purpose.
"Putin is like Stalin".
I dispute the analogy.
But more importantly, your post doesn't explain what Russia is fighting FOR.
Dunderhead.
* Walks away, muttering*
SECIND: Putin declared what Russia is fighting for. Pick whichever reasons from Putin's list that you think are real reasons, or pick all of them. I think all of Putin's reasons are lies. He invaded Ukraine for his personal glorification in the history books as the next Peter the Great,
You've posted so many conflicting opinions ...
Russians support the war in Ukraine. Except when they don't.
Russian soldiers are brave and stalwart when the confront their military. Except when they commit atrocities.
Russians don't know how to fight wars/kill efficiently. Except when they use standoff weapons, and then they're cowards.
We're not at war with the Russian people. Except they're no better than orcs.
We're not at war with Russia. Except we want to destroy it.
I'm sure you'll post some other bullshit in the next post or two that will completely contradict what you just posted.
The incoherence of your posts is why I rarely bother with more than a sentence or two.
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Quote:Russians are traumatized people. Their lives make little sense and are going nowhere, one action contradicted the next action. But their lives do drift ever so slowly into one disaster after another that can be seen from their recent history. Signym, if you watch Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone, you would know this about Russians.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You've posted so many conflicting opinions ...
Russians support the war in Ukraine. Except when they don't.
Russian soldiers are brave and stalwart when the confront their military. Except when they commit atrocities.
Russians don't know how to fight wars/kill efficiently. Except when they use standoff weapons, and then they're cowards.
We're not at war with the Russian people. Except they're no better than orcs.
We're not at war with Russia. Except we want to destroy it.
I'm sure you'll post some other bullshit in the next post or two that will completely contradict what you just posted.
The incoherence of your posts is why I rarely bother with more than a sentence or two.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
“To understand Russia now – and what might happen in the future – you have to understand what happened back then. For it is out of that rage, the violence, the desperation and the overwhelming corruption that Vladimir Putin emerged.”- filmmaker Adam Curtis, who also made The Century of the Self.
Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone
What It Felt Like To Live Through the Collapse of Communism . . . and Democracy
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/other/adam-curtis-astonishing-
autopsy-of-the-fall-of-russia-will-leave-you-wide-eyed/ar-AA12U7PL
A few places to see the 7 part TV show:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0d3hwl1/russia-19851999-trauma
zone
https://comment.rlsbb.ru/russia-1985-1999-traumazone-s01-1080p-ip-web-
dl-h264-playweb/
https://tpb25.ukpass.co/search.php?q=TraumaZone
RUSSIA: Adam Curtis on the fall of the Soviet Union's worrying parallels with modern Britain
Adam Curtis is a journalist and filmmaker. His latest documentary, Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone, is out now on BBC iPlayer.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:Hahaha!!!
Originally posted by second:Quote:Russians are traumatized people.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You've posted so many conflicting opinions ...
Russians support the war in Ukraine. Except when they don't.
Russian soldiers are brave and stalwart when the confront their military. Except when they commit atrocities.
Russians don't know how to fight wars/kill efficiently. Except when they use standoff weapons, and then they're cowards.
We're not at war with the Russian people. Except they're no better than orcs.
We're not at war with Russia. Except we want to destroy it.
I'm sure you'll post some other bullshit in the next post or two that will completely contradict what you just posted.
The incoherence of your posts is why I rarely bother with more than a sentence or two.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.
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Quote:Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades. What they are doing with their lives makes very little sense, except maybe to somebody who is just like them, by which I mean you and the Russians are crazy.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!
See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
By the way, if Russia does win, I don't think that will be the end of Russian insanity. It will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!
See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.
SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades.
blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.
Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same.
You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future.
You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space.
And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did.
You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not.
In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves
Why do you feel like shit, SECOND?
****
And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.
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Quote:Signym, Russians are measurably crazy. Take for example Andrei Sakharov - Father of the Russian H-bomb and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. He was smart, but the crazy contradiction within that Russian was being very slow at understanding the consequences of building for Stalin H-bombs which still threaten the world.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!
See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.
SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades.
blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.
Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same.
You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future.
You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space.
And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did.
You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not.
In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves
Why do you feel like shit, SECOND?
****
And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Does Canada, a country with a larger economy than Russia, need H-bombs to protect itself from the evil USA stealing Canadian wealth? It does not, and neither does Russia. But Russians think their H-bombs are the only thing protecting them from the USA.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/bomb-ussr-scienti
sts/
Signym, another measurably insane Russian is Putin ally Margarita Simonyan, who posted an ominous message on Tuesday, making a nod to the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962 — a confrontation between the U.S. and then-Soviet Union that almost catapulted a full-scale nuclear war.
In a post shared to her Telegram channel, all Simonyan wrote was "Good evening, 1962."
Her remarks came just hours after Russia launched one of the broadest aerial strikes on Ukraine since the war began — an attack that reportedly included two missiles that spilled into neighboring Poland, killing two people in the NATO country. The attack also affected Moldova, which suffered a massive power outage after a key power line was knocked out by the strike.
Shortly after Tuesday's attack, Simonyan, who heads state-run media outlet RT, casted doubt as to whether the incident on the Polish side involved a missile from Russia, saying, "Before you accuse a country capable of erasing Poland into nuclear ashes, take the trouble to present evidence." Signym, a sane person would not act like Simonyan.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-posts-ominous-message-about-us-con
flict-russia-1759845
There are many more examples of Russian craziness. Killing Ukrainian prisoners of war then claiming the Ukrainians killed the prisoners. If Russians were sane they would either stop killing prisoners or stop making false claims about who the killers are. But Russians can't pick only one or the other because they are crazy
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Witnesses recount detentions, torture, disappearances in occupied Kherson
By Michael E. Miller and Anastacia Galouchka November 14, 2022 at 10:38 a.m. EST
12-15 minutes
KHERSON, Ukraine — Few people paid attention to the drab concrete building, tucked away on a quiet residential street, that had long housed unruly youths behind a high wall and a spool of barbed wire. But after Russian soldiers swept into Kherson in early March, the anonymous building quickly became infamous.
Black sedans with tinted windows and missing license plates arrived at all hours, disgorging Ukrainian detainees with bags over their heads. Screams began to escape the three-story structure, piercing the once-calm neighborhood, residents said.
Sometimes, the gates would open, and a detainee would be dumped on the street, physically and mentally broken. Other captives were sent to a larger prison, or never seen again. “If there is a hell on Earth, it was here,” said Serhiy, 48, who lives across the street and whom The Washington Post is only identifying by first name to protect him from retribution.
Days after Russian forces fled in retreat, surrendering the only regional capital Russia had managed to seize since the start of its invasion, the horrors that occurred in this stately 18th-century port city are just starting to come into focus.
During a visit to the city on Monday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said occupying Russian forces had committed “hundreds” of atrocities in the Kherson area, though he said the precise number was not yet known.
What is already apparent, however, is that the Russians here operated a detention system on a scale not seen in any of the dozens of other cities, towns and villages liberated by Ukrainian forces in recent weeks.
An outline of mass incarceration was already appearing on Saturday and Sunday, when a dozen people told The Post that they had either been detained themselves or were searching for someone who had been taken. Many approached reporters on the street, asking for help in finding their loved ones.
Some Kherson residents were arrested because they were accused of being freedom fighters. Others said locals were locked up because they had Ukrainian tattoos, wore traditional clothing, took selfies standing near Russian troops, or simply dared to say, “Slava Ukraini” — “Glory to Ukraine.”
A mother was arrested in front of her teenage son and held for two months on a suspicion of helping Ukrainian forces.
A 64-year-old man was detained and beaten with a hammer for fighting — eight years ago.
A priest was arrested and sent to Crimea, according to a congregant. Even the mayor was arrested. Still, no one knows where he is.
“We’re talking about thousands of people,” said Oleksandr Samoylenko, head of the regional council of Kherson. “On any given day, the Russians had 600 people in their torture chambers.”
Samoylenko said it would take time to figure out how many people were detained, how many remain missing, and if mass graves, like those found in other liberated areas, would also be discovered here.
“A lot of people have disappeared,” Samoylenko said, adding that he feared the city’s name would soon join the ranks of cities such as Bucha, Irpin and Izyum, which are now synonymous with Russian atrocities.
“It was a nightmare,” he said.
‘Everyone could hear the torture’
What could set Kherson apart is the emerging scale of abuses.
Located where the Dnieper River meets the Black Sea, Kherson, with a prewar population of nearly 300,000, is by far the biggest city to be liberated. It was also the first to be occupied. Of cities that fell under Russian occupation, only Mariupol, which suffered severe destruction and remains under Russian control, is bigger.
And as a regional capital crucial to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s plan to annex the regions of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, Kherson city is a window into the Russian military-administrative machine.
Moscow-backed officials took over the regional administrat
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!!!
See what I mean?
In another post or two you'll change your mind.
If you're going to blame their inconsistency on trauma, SECOND... what does that say about you? Bc I don't believe they're inconsistent. It's you.
SECOND: Signym, you might think you're making sense, but you haven't looked at Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone. The Russians have been in the middle of a mental crisis for decades.
blah blah blah.. will be an excuse to go crazy on another country after Ukraine.
SIGNY: Your problem, SECOND, is that you think of "Russians"... or "Trumptards"... or "Jehovah's Witnesses"... as if they're all the same.
You land on one characteristic ... Russians under the Tsars craved authoritarianism. Or, were backward. Superstitious. What-have-you. And then you apply it to ALL Russians, from time immemorial to the indefinite future.
You land on ANOTHER characteristic... Russians lost too many people fighting WWII .. and you apply THAT to all Russians throughout time and space.
And then you land, like a fly, on yet another characteristic: Russians are traumatized. And you apply it to Russians who suffered thru the breakup of their union and the depredations of the west, to those who never did.
You're dredging up anything negative that you can find and you splatter it liberally, whether it fits or not.
In my observation, SECOND, people who spend as much time AS YOU virtue-signalling how great they are and trying to break others down feel anxious, depressed, and massively guilty about themselves
Why do you feel like shit, SECOND?
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And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic.
Second: Signym, Russians are measurably crazy.
You see? You're doing it again
You take one example, mind-read the shit out of it, then apply it liberally to an entire group of people.
The only crazy person here is you.
Get yourself fixed, SECOND, or at least stop using this board as your toilet.
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Another lie from Kiev:
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Kyiv Demands Access To Poland Blast Site, Doubles Down On 'Russian Attack' Narrative
Fortunately some PTB pay attention to reality and not malicious allegation.
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Edited to add:
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Suspected Ukrainian Drone Strikes Fuel Depot Deep In Russian Territory
Wednesday, Nov 16, 2022 - 06:05 PM
Though all eyes have been on the Polish border blast and resulting back-and-forth on who was to responsible, a separate major attack unfolded in southern Russia near the Ukraine border on Wednesday.
Russian authorities described a suspected drone attack after a fuel depot exploded. It took place in Oryol oblast about 125 miles from the Ukrainian border. "Today [Wednesday] at 04:00 [01:00 GMT] a suspected drone blew up a fuel depot in the village of Stalnoi Kon. There were no casualties," the Oryol regional governor said in a statement.
Aftermath of drone attack on fuel depot. Source: ogtrk.ru/Moscow Times
If confirmed that it was a Ukrainian drone attack, it marks a significant escalation, given the distance of the facility from the border.
The AFP/Moscow Times observes, "Most of the attacks occurred against targets only tens of kilometers from the border, which makes Wednesday's incident stand out for taking place deeper into Russian territory."
It's likely Ukrainian retaliation for the ongoing devastating Russian airstrikes seeking to degrade and disable Ukraine's energy infrastructure at a moment frigid winter temperatures approach. Starting last Spring, and in the months that followed, Ukraine's military launched a series of attacks on Russia's next door Belgorod region.
On Tuesday, Kyiv reported many dozens of Russian strikes across the country which hit as far West as Lviv. Zelensky's office cited that the national energy was "critical" after the sustained attacks.
As The Guardian described, "Ukraine’s public broadcaster reported that the strikes targeted Kyiv, Kyiv region, Kharkiv city as well as Poltava, Mykolaiv, Dnipro, Zhytomyr, Khmelnytskiy, Lviv, Volyn, Rivne, Cherkassy, Odesa, Kirovohrad, and Chernihiv regions."
State energy company Ukrenergo announced emergency shutdowns "for all categories of consumers have been introduced" in the northern and central regions, which were the areas which suffered the most immediate damage from the strikes.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/suspected-ukrainian-drone-strik
es-fuel-depot-deep-within-russian-territory
Well, this is a war after all
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Quote:Signym, is this your response to the story about Russians torturing Ukrainians? That story is here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11648
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You see? You're doing it again
You take one example, mind-read the shit out of it, then apply it liberally to an entire group of people.
The only crazy person here is you.
Get yourself fixed, SECOND, or at least stop using this board as your toilet.
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10#1164810 I would love for you to deconstruct that story line by line to show how every fact can be proved to be a lie, or illogical, or physically impossible.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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How long do you suppose you're going to keep this thread of lies going on, you Neo-Con bootlicking worm?
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Quote:Very soon Trump will be President. His personal diplomacy brought peace between North Korea and South Korea, convincing North Korea to end its H-bomb program. He'll bring peace between Russia and Ukraine, and convince Russia to end its H-bomb program. Trust Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How long do you suppose you're going to keep this thread of lies going on, you Neo-Con bootlicking worm?
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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