Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Wave of attacks rock Odesa, Kyiv, Dnipro
Explosions were heard in several parts of the country, including the southern port of Odesa, the capital Kyiv and the central city of Dnipro, and civilians were urged to take shelter as air raid warnings were issued.
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The Ukrainian government is warning Western allies that it is anticipating increased Russian attacks on its energy infrastructure in the coming days and that Kyiv does not have enough replacement parts to bring heat and power back online if those occur, according to two congressional officials and one Western official briefed on U.S. intelligence.
Ukraine needs key components like generators, pipes and valves to repair its infrastructure. Kyiv is currently attempting to fix the damaged infrastructure, but they fear that continued attacks by Russia could make it nearly impossible to keep up, according to a senior U.S. official familiar with the Ukrainian government’s thinking.
The new warnings were relayed to lawmakers this week through classified intelligence reports . . .
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/16/russian-attacks-on-ukriane-en
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Quote:There is a Netflix drama called 1899 that has a lesson for people who write over and over again "Nobody Cares." Nobody on a steamship sailing across the Atlantic cares about anything except their tiny personal problems, exactly like you, 6ix. A reviewer wrote: "This is an expertly-crafted puzzle which, from episode four on, goes to truly mind-bending places. It isn’t for the easily-bored or anyone partial to zoning out in front of the television. But for those who enjoy drama that challenges as much as it dazzles, 1899 is a date worth keeping." https://www.metacritic.com/tv/1899
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Spoiler Alert for 1899:
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In the last minutes of the final episode of 1899, one person wakes up to the dire situation for everyone on the ship. It is not a steamship they are on. It is not the year 1899. It is a Starship. If they keep on with the steady drumbeat of "Nobody Cares" then those "Don't Cares" are about to die unless they start caring and stop being cowards and layabouts dreaming they are on a cruise in the Atlantic.
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Fuck Ukraine.
Go Team Putin!
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Quote:A Dutch court on Thursday convicted three men and acquitted one for the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over Ukraine in 2014, which killed all 298 people on board.
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Fuck Ukraine.
Go Team Putin!
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Russians Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko "are found guilty" of murder and intentionally causing an aircraft to crash, while Russian Oleg Pulatov was acquitted, head judge Hendrik Steenhuis said.
The three found guilty by the court were sentenced in absentia to life imprisonment and were ordered to pay 16 million euros compensation to the families of the victims.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/17/ukraine-war-new-strikes-repo
rted-on-ukrainian-cities-infrastructure-a79400
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
Go Team Putin!
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When it's announced that America is at war with Putin, and it's a legal war that Congress approves, let me know.
Until then, Putin and Russia are the victims here and I fully support Russia against the proxy war that NATO is waging through Ukraine while using the Ukrainian people as cannon fodder.
As for you, Second... Get fucked you Neo-Con warmongering piece of shit.
The blood of everyone involved is on YOUR hands.
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Quote:Putin’s swan song: ‘Cri-Me-A River’
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
When it's announced that America is at war with Putin, and it's a legal war that Congress approves, let me know.
Until then, Putin and Russia are the victims here and I fully support Russia against the proxy war that NATO is waging through Ukraine while using the Ukrainian people as cannon fodder.
As for you, Second... Get fucked you Neo-Con warmongering piece of shit.
The blood of everyone involved is on YOUR hands.
The Kremlin’s “special military operation” is now all about Putin’s survival and Russia's need to maintain possession of Crimea to remain viable as a conventional superpower.
Putin could be facing his end in Crimea in a dystopian version of Tchaikovsky’s “Swan Lake.” Zelensky, in winning and playing the good sorcerer, has turned Putin into a black swan — increasingly, there is no easy escape in Ukraine for the Russian leader. All that likely remains is Putin’s swan song: “Cri-me-a River.” Cue the stagehands at Perekop. Putin may be nearing his final exit.
Jonathan Sweet, a retired Army colonel, served 30 years as a military intelligence officer. His background includes tours of duty with the 101st Airborne Division and the Intelligence and Security Command. He led the U.S. European Command Intelligence Engagement Division from 2012-14, working with NATO partners in the Black Sea and Baltics. Follow him on Twitter @JESweet2022.
More at https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3735377-putins-swan-song
-cri-me-a-river/
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Putin's Black Sea Crisis Deepens as He Only Has Seven Ships Left—Report
By Isabel van Brugen On 11/17/22 at 9:44 AM EST
Ukraine's Operational Command South, a formation of the Ukrainian Ground Forces that operates in the southern part of the country, said in a Facebook post on Thursday that "stormy weather" has reduced Putin's Black Sea fleet to just seven vessels.
"While the stormy weather is intensifying in the Black Sea, the enemy flotilla was reduced to seven vessels, including one submarine missile carrier," Operational Command South said in its daily assessment of the war. "Four Kalibr cruise missiles are on standby. But it is quite likely that more vessels will be deployed to striking positions."
Newsweek has been unable to independently verify the figures provided by Ukraine, but Russia's Black Sea Fleet has sustained major losses since the start of the war.
In April, Russia was served a huge blow when the fleet's flagship vessel, the Moskva, sank. At least four other vessels from Russia's Black Sea Fleet have been destroyed, while the latest flagship, Admiral Makarov, was attacked by Ukraine at the end of October.
Russia also blamed Ukraine for a separate strike last month on Sevastopol, a city in Crimea that hosts Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
Russia's defense ministry said nine Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, and seven "maritime drones," conducted a "terrorist attack" on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet and civilian ships that were on the outer and inner roadsteads of its base in Sevastopol.
Newsweek reached out to the defense ministries of Russia and Ukraine for comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-crisis-black-sea-fleet-ships-crimea-176
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Polish Politician Blasts Ukraine For Missile "Provocation"
Thursday, Nov 17, 2022 - 03:27 PM
Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,
A Polish politician has blamed Ukraine for causing a “provocation” by falsely claiming its own missile that struck Przewodow had been fired by Russia.
Immediately after news broke of the incident, President Zelensky called on NATO to take action against Russia, accusing Moscow of firing the rocket.
However, within hours it became clear that the accident, which killed two people, was actually caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile.
That didn’t stop British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, NATO and other prominent officials blaming Russia for the incident anyway, despite it clearly being Kiev’s fault.
Now the former chairman of the city council of Lublin, the seat of the region where Przewodow is located, is calling for Poland to rethink its approach to the war in light of the incident.
Having up until now been a staunch supporter of Ukraine, Jaroslaw Pakula said the missile accident showed Warsaw needed to send a blunt message to Kiev rather than telling its own citizens “fairy tales.”
“Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course, this is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,” Pakula posted on his Facebook page.
“The rocket could not be fired 100km in the opposite direction by mistake,” he added, asserting that the incident was an attempt to scare the EU into sending more money to Ukraine.
Demanding that Warsaw should “no longer put up with this behavior” from Ukraine, Pakula remarked, “I urge you to rethink Poland’s position [regarding] this war in the event that the red line is crossed again!”
Despite all evidence indicating the missile was fired by Ukraine, Zelensky has doubled down, denying that Kiev was involved and asking for his country to be at the forefront of an investigation.
However, after President Joe Biden swiftly said the evidence for Russia’s involvement was minimal, CNN reported that Ukrainian military officials told their American and western allies that they were responsible for the blast.
Kiev had “attempted to intercept a Russian missile” at the same location and in the same time france as when the missile strike at the Polish village of Przewowdow occurred, according to the report.
The Associated Press also had to issue a retraction, noting that it had “erroneously” reported that “Russian missiles” had killed two people in Poland, and that this was based on a claim by one single anonymous senior US intelligence official.
*Thank you AP, for correcting a story that nearly launched WW3. Now maybe you can also name the "senior American intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity" and who may have had ulterior motives in bringing the world to the edge of nuclear war pic.twitter.com/xtruXlv6U3
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) November 16, 2022*
“Subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack,” AP reported.
* If Alex Jones must pay $1.5 billion for being wrong, then how much do the “Russian missile attack of Poland triggered Article 5,” hoaxers owe?
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) November 17, 2022*
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Putin's Black Sea Crisis Deepens as He Only Has Seven Ships Left—Report
By Isabel van Brugen On 11/17/22 at 9:44 AM EST
Operational Command South, a formation of the Ukrainian Ground Forces that operates in the southern part of the country, said in a Facebook post
This is as far into Kiev's lies as I intend to get.
Kiev lies about things both large and small. I know for a fact that Russia has a robust fleet.
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Quote:Is Estonia lying about Russia? Estonia’s Defense Minister: ‘The border separating Russia from Estonia and other countries is the border of civilization’
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Originally posted by second:
Putin's Black Sea Crisis Deepens as He Only Has Seven Ships Left—Report
By Isabel van Brugen On 11/17/22 at 9:44 AM EST
Operational Command South, a formation of the Ukrainian Ground Forces that operates in the southern part of the country, said in a Facebook post
This is as far into Kiev's lies as I intend to get.
Kiev lies about things both large and small. I know for a fact that Russia has a robust fleet.
Hanno Pevkur wants to see more international support for Kyiv, which is fighting for ‘the free world,’ despite the impact from the energy crisis
Q. Before this war, Estonia, which borders Russia and has a long history of relations, had warned several times about the threat from the Kremlin. Do you think these warnings were not heeded?
A. Many European leaders have said several times that they should have listened to Estonia earlier. But now is not the time to boast about that and there is no point in going back in time. We have a war to win together with Ukraine, as they are fighting not only for themselves, but for the free world and what the security structure in Europe will look like in the coming decades.
Q. With the Kremlin’s energy battle with the EU and as citizens begin to notice inflation hurting their pockets more and more, do you think that solidarity will falter?
A. It is our job to explain why we support and should continue to support Ukraine, because this is our war too, it is a war for a rules-based world. In Estonia inflation is around 20% and things are very difficult. My own gas bill has gone up 15-fold. We are all paying a price for what happened, a very high price, but that doesn’t mean we have to give in to Russia’s blackmail or stop supporting Ukraine. Especially Estonia, especially the eastern flank of NATO, because we are the main gateway of the Atlantic Alliance [to Russia].
Q. Estonia is one of the countries that is most vocal about supporting Ukraine. Are there great variations in support within the EU?
A. It is up to each country to decide how much it can provide and how, because some States do not have much military power to offer, but they do have other formulas, such as financial support. Estonia has supported Ukraine with approximately the equivalent of 30% of its annual defense budget, which is approximately 1% of our GDP. (1% of USA GDP is $230 billion annually, 30% of USA annual defense budget is $493 billion annually) So yes, we are leaders in supporting Ukraine, but we are still looking for new options. We are finalizing a military field hospital, the third, together with other partners, and we are looking for more. We are providing training to Ukrainian soldiers in different fields, some of them ‘special’ and which I cannot openly disclose, and additional training to combat cyber-attacks. We are all fighting for the free world.
Q. Now, with Moscow’s focus on the war in Ukraine, does Estonia feel that threat?
A. There is no immediate threat at Estonia’s border today. However, we all understand that we have to stay focused on closely monitoring what is going on behind our borders. We have raised our defense spending – for the next four years, our defense spending will be on average nearly 3% of our GDP. (USA spends 3.2% GDP on defense) This will be invested in raising our defense capabilities – over 50% of the additional funding will go towards capabilities, which is well above the 20% NATO requirement. We will be developing our long-range fire capabilties (HIMARS), mid-range air defence capabilities, marine missiles, anti-tank weaponry, and much more.
More at https://english.elpais.com/international/2022-11-17/estonias-defense-m
inister-the-border-separating-russia-from-estonia-and-other-countries-is-the-border-of-civilization.html
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The path of a missile.
The path of a lie: from Kiev and Poland to "anonymous US officials" to the AP
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Yes, SECOND, Estonia is lying about Russia.
What do you expect? The collective west lies about EVERYTHING: from the nature of its economy to the nature of its politics, that men can indeed get pregnant, that a particular car/ videogame will make you happy, the nature of our wars and the superiority of Europe/Five Eyes...
Lies, large and small, endlessly. Many even believe their own lies.
You should know how that works, SECOND, since you're an inveterate liar yourself.
You're so comfortable with swallowing lies that you'll swallow one lie and immediately swallow a contradictory lie. Apparently without any mental indigestion.
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Quote:Dutch court convicts three of murder in MH17 jet downing over Ukraine
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The path of a missile.
The path of a lie: from Kiev and Poland to "anonymous US officials" to the AP
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Yes, SECOND, Estonia is lying about Russia.
What do you expect? The collective west lies about EVERYTHING: from the nature of its economy to the nature of its politics, that men can indeed get pregnant, that a particular car/ videogame will make you happy, the nature of our wars and the superiority of Europe/Five Eyes...
Lies, large and small, endlessly. Many even believe their own lies.
You should know how that works, SECOND, since you're an inveterate liar yourself.
You're so comfortable with swallowing lies that you'll swallow one lie and immediately swallow a contradictory lie. Apparently without any mental indigestion.
The conviction of the defendants — two former Russian security service officers and a Ukrainian national who commanded pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region — implicates the Russian government. Moscow has long denied responsibility for the destruction of the jetliner and refused to extradite the defendants or cooperate with investigators. A third Russian defendant was acquitted.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/17/mh17-verdict-convictio
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Putin’s swan song: ‘Cri-Me-A River’
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
When it's announced that America is at war with Putin, and it's a legal war that Congress approves, let me know.
Until then, Putin and Russia are the victims here and I fully support Russia against the proxy war that NATO is waging through Ukraine while using the Ukrainian people as cannon fodder.
As for you, Second... Get fucked you Neo-Con warmongering piece of shit.
The blood of everyone involved is on YOUR hands.
The Kremlin’s “special military operation” is now all about Putin’s survival and Russia's need to maintain possession of Crimea to remain viable as a conventional superpower.
Putin could be facing his end in Crimea in a dystopian version of Tchaikovsky’s “Swan Lake.” Zelensky, in winning and playing the good sorcerer, has turned Putin into a black swan — increasingly, there is no easy escape in Ukraine for the Russian leader. All that likely remains is Putin’s swan song: “Cri-me-a River.” Cue the stagehands at Perekop. Putin may be nearing his final exit.
Jonathan Sweet, a retired Army colonel, served 30 years as a military intelligence officer. His background includes tours of duty with the 101st Airborne Division and the Intelligence and Security Command. He led the U.S. European Command Intelligence Engagement Division from 2012-14, working with NATO partners in the Black Sea and Baltics. Follow him on Twitter @JESweet2022.
More at https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3735377-putins-swan-song
-cri-me-a-river/
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Uh huh.
Wasn't this little NATO/Raytheon/Blackstone operation supposed to go on for 10 years or something. Or end up with nuclear missiles being fired or something.
Putin is fine.
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Quote:The prediction was "Putin may be nearing his final exit." Who knows how long Russia will fight Ukraine? Nobody. Russia was killing Germans long after WWII was over. According to the Germans, 2 million Germans were killed after the peace treaties were signed. Russian vindictiveness means Ukrainians will be killed long after a peace treaty is signed.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh huh.
Wasn't this little NATO/Raytheon/Blackstone operation supposed to go on for 10 years or something. Or end up with nuclear missiles being fired or something.
Putin is fine.
https://theconversation.com/postwar-forced-resettlement-of-germans-ech
oes-through-the-decades-137219
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The path of a missile.
The path of a lie: from Kiev and Poland to "anonymous US officials" to the AP
****
Yes, SECOND, Estonia is lying about Russia.
What do you expect? The collective west lies about EVERYTHING: from the nature of its economy to the nature of its politics, that men can indeed get pregnant, that a particular car/ videogame will make you happy, the nature of our wars and the superiority of Europe/Five Eyes...
Lies, large and small, endlessly. Many even believe their own lies.
You should know how that works, SECOND, since you're an inveterate liar yourself.
You're so comfortable with swallowing lies that you'll swallow one lie and immediately swallow a contradictory lie. Apparently without any mental indigestion.
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Girkin was found to be responsible for the transportation of the Buk missile system from Russia to the site from which the launch took place.
Kharchenko was found to have overseen the safety of the missile system after its delivery and installation, while Pulatov was acquitted.
Just bullshit and lies from the collective west, SECOND.
That's like convicting the UPS guy of murder because he delivered a mail order gun.
You really don't "get it", do you? When I say the collective west lies about everything, I mean it lies about everything .
They lie about Nancy's drinking and insider trading. They lied about WMD. They lied about Epstein. They lie constantly about Russia. They lie about our economy. The lies they tell are legion.
But then, the lies YOU tell are legion. If Satan is the father of lies, what does that make you?
I would be hard pressed to find truth about anything except the most inconsequential local story.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The prediction was "Putin may be nearing his final exit." Who knows how long Russia will fight Ukraine? Nobody. Russia was killing Germans long after WWII was over. According to the Germans, 2 million Germans were killed after the peace treaties were signed. Russian vindictiveness means Ukrainians will be killed long after a peace treaty is signed.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh huh.
Wasn't this little NATO/Raytheon/Blackstone operation supposed to go on for 10 years or something. Or end up with nuclear missiles being fired or something.
Putin is fine.
https://theconversation.com/postwar-forced-resettlement-of-germans-ech
oes-through-the-decades-137219
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Your entire argument for American/NATO aggression against Russia is nothing more than a sad derivative of Pascal's Wager.
You are a fucking cultist. How many decades ago was it exactly that you had an independent thought?
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Did Ukraine Try To Trick NATO Into Starting World War III After It Accidentally Bombed Poland?
a) I'm fair certain it wasn't "accidental", and
b) Well, duh!
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Did Ukraine Try To Trick NATO Into Starting World War III After It Accidentally Bombed Poland?
a) I'm fair certain it wasn't "accidental", and
b) Well, duh!
Ukraine didn't do shit.
That was either NATO or US that sent a bomb two miles over the fence to Poland.
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Russia’s war could reach a devastating climax in Crimea, threatening to expose just how low Vladimir Putin is willing to stoop.
“Ukraine will be liquidated,” are the words Putin’s celebrated primetime shill and alleged war criminal Vladimir Solovyov employs almost nightly on television to reawaken the spirit of Zemlyachka.
“Russia’s military mindset is always annihilation,” says a veteran Kremlin specialist who spent years in Moscow and remains attached to a Western intelligence agency. “What’s been remarkable since the fall of Kherson is we’ve never before heard Russian politicians and propagandists pushing a terror campaign at a level reminiscent of the Bolshevik Revolution. They are off the charts.”
None of this surprises 2022 Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Oleksandra Matviichuk.
“Russians can tolerate their war criminals who win,” Matviichuk told The Daily Beast over a recent dinner in Paris. “Russians cannot tolerate their war criminals who lose.”
Matviichuk, director of Ukraine’s Center for Civil Liberties, says her organization has so far itemized more than 21,000 instances of Russian war crimes in Ukraine. The desecrations in Bucha, Izium, and Kherson are so grisly that she and other human-rights lawyers are now imploring UN member states to “develop a new definition of a war crime and a method to prosecute them,” she says.
More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-battle-over-crimea-could-trigger-put
ins-deadliest-rampage-in-ukraine-yet
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What happens when a powerful actor systematically abuses freedom of information to spread disinformation? Uses freedom of speech in such a way as to subvert the very possibility of a debate? And does so not merely inside a country, as part of vicious election campaigns, but as part of a transnational military campaign? Since at least 2008, Kremlin military and intelligence thinkers have been talking about information not in the familiar terms of “persuasion,” “public diplomacy” or even “propaganda,” but in weaponized terms, as a tool to confuse, blackmail, demoralize, subvert and paralyze. – The Menace of Unreality : How the Kremlin weaponizes information, culture and money, by Peter Pomerantsev
2) This Is Not Propaganda : Adventures in the War Against Reality by Peter Pomerantsev
3) Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia by Peter Pomerantsev, which has been positively reviewed. https://www.google.com/search?q=Nothing+Is+True+and+Everything+Is+Poss
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There is always collateral damage in conflict, but Russia’s attacks on non-military critical and energy infrastructure are intentional. “This is not a new tactic for Russia,” said John Spencer, a retired Army officer and chair of urban warfare studies at the Madison Policy Forum. “If you think about what they did in Chechnya, and in Syria, to basically bring the civilian population to such despair that they’re willing to capitulate.”
Moscow’s targeting of infrastructure, which some have argued amounts to war crimes, is an effort to undermine Ukraine’s economy and deprive people of essential services — heat, water, electricity — as winter approaches. Russia is struggling against Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the east and south, and so Moscow is trying to extend the war and spread out that pain across Ukraine, not just in war zones. All of it will make Ukraine even more reliant on aid from the West, which is dealing with its own inflation and energy crises. “Russians are actually now acting very cruel, but also in a very well-thought-through way,” said Andriy Kobolyev, former chief executive officer of Ukraine’s largest national oil and gas company Naftogaz.
More at https://www.vox.com/world/2022/11/18/23460933/ukraine-infrastructure-s
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Russia’s war could reach a devastating climax
That's nice. Your perpetual Neo-Con war boner is finally going to cum.
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Quote:When you chopped off too much of that quote, you destroyed its meaning, 6ix. The full quote: Russia’s war could reach a devastating climax in Crimea, threatening to expose just how low Vladimir Putin is willing to stoop. “Ukraine will be liquidated,” are the words Putin’s celebrated primetime shill and alleged war criminal Vladimir Solovyov employs almost nightly on television to reawaken the spirit of Zemlyachka.“Russia’s military mindset is always annihilation,” says a veteran Kremlin specialist who spent years in Moscow and remains attached to a Western intelligence agency. “What’s been remarkable since the fall of Kherson is we’ve never before heard Russian politicians and propagandists pushing a terror campaign at a level reminiscent of the Bolshevik Revolution. They are off the charts.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Russia’s war could reach a devastating climax
That's nice. Your perpetual Neo-Con war boner is finally going to cum.
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Vladimir Putin isn’t just losing in Ukraine — he’s set Russia’s economy back 40 years
by Vitaliy Katsenelson
Finally, this war has been a sad infomercial for Russian weapons. India used to import half of its weapons from Russia. Now, the U.S. and Europe will likely become the sole providers of weapons to India – another tailwind for defense contractors. After the war is over, Russia will be selling its weapons to rogue regimes such as Iran and North Korea, but the market for its weapons has shrunk considerably since February.
More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-isn-t-just-losing-
in-ukraine-he-s-set-russia-s-economy-back-40-years/ar-AA14gqKJ
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Originally posted by second:Quote:When you chopped off too much of that quote, you destroyed its meaning, 6ix.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Russia’s war could reach a devastating climax
That's nice. Your perpetual Neo-Con war boner is finally going to cum.
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Quote:Do you really not understand when Russians talk on TV about "liquidating" Ukrainians? Do you not understand a terror campaign at the level of the Bolshevik Revolution? Rosalia Zemlyachka, aka The Demon, remains the darling of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a superstar at KGB headquarters, and the poster ghoul for what Russia is capable of doing: “We need pitiless, unceasing struggle against the snakes who are hiding in secret,” Rosalia Zemlyachka told the Sebastopol newspaper Vremya. “We must annihilate them, sweep them out with an iron broom, a sea of blood, everywhere.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It had no meaning to chop off.
All you post is bullshit.
You are a complete waste of time.
Witnessing Zemlyachka’s carnage first-hand, Russian opposition leader Sergei Melgunov said the lampposts of Crimea’s largest city are “richly garnished with wind-swayed corpses” of Ukrainians. In the nearby beach resort of Feodosia, Melgunov and other officials said they observed Zemlyachka commandeer the city’s wells as burial pits. When the shafts were clogged with tortured soldiers and Ukrainian civilians, Melgunov added, she strapped her victims to planks, either roasting them alive in furnaces or drowning them in barges in the Black Sea.
“It’s a pity to waste cartridges on them,” Zemlyachka said. The Kremlin’s chief executioner in Crimea was not modest about having slaughtered some 70,000 of her neighbors in Ukraine.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-battle-over-crimea-could-trigger-put
ins-deadliest-rampage-in-ukraine-yet
Rosalia Zemlyachka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalia_Zemlyachka
You can download the book by Donald Rayfield, Stalin and His Hangmen: The Tyrant and Those Who Killed for Him. New York: Random House, 2004 from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.page/search.php?req=Donald+Rayfield
The book explains why so many Ukrainians in 2022 get killed when imprisoned by Russians:
Quote:The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
In December 1938 the GULAG population passed the million mark, and there were nearly as many in the prisons and other labor colonies. In 1938 mortality in the GULAG — overcrowded, chaotic, run by inexperienced and frightened administrators — soared to 90,000 or 10 percent of the inmates. Even so, the camps could not keep up with the mass arrests; those detained in grotesquely overcrowded prisons often died of typhus, dysentery, heat, malnutrition, or torture before they could be executed.
Stalin and Ezhov, therefore, decided that the percentage of “enemies” sentenced to death rather than forced labor must rise from 0.5 to 47 percent. In 1937 and 1938 the NKVD’s own records show that 1,444,923 persons were “convicted” of counterrevolutionary crimes, and of these 681,692 were shot. The flow to the camps was halved, but processing so many prisoners — who had to be beaten into incriminating others and thus provide further fodder for the NKVD — was still unmanageable. The NKVD ran out of paper to record sentences and executions.
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Russian Authorities in Crimea to Strengthen Defenses Amid Ukrainian Gains
Russian authorities in annexed Crimea are fortifying the peninsula's defensive positions, its governor said Friday in a signal of Moscow’s growing concerns over Ukrainian forces’ push to reclaim captured territories in the south.
“Fortification works aimed at guaranteeing Crimeans’ security are being conducted under my supervision,” said Crimea's Russian Governor Sergei Aksyonov. Aksyonov sought to reassure Crimeans that existing measures are “enough” to protect them from a potential Ukrainian assault.
Britain’s Defense Ministry said Russian units have built new trenches near the Crimean border and other sections in eastern Ukraine. “Some of these locations are up to 60 kilometers behind the current front line, suggesting that Russian planners are making preparations in case of further major Ukrainian breakthroughs,” it said in Friday’s assessment.
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley played down the likelihood of Crimea’s return and a wider Ukrainian military victory in the short term this week. But he acknowledged that a “political solution” could lead to Russia’s withdrawal from occupied territories, including Crimea.
More at https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/18/russian-authorities-in-crime
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Quote:You dont REALLY believe the shit you post, do you?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Do you really not understand when Russians talk on TV about "liquidating" Ukrainians? Do you not understand a terror campaign at the level of the Bolshevik Revolution? Rosalia Zemlyachka, aka The Demon, remains the darling of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a superstar at KGB headquarters, and the poster ghoul for what Russia is capable of doing: “We need pitiless, unceasing struggle against the snakes who are hiding in secret,” Rosalia Zemlyachka told the Sebastopol newspaper Vremya. “We must annihilate them, sweep them out with an iron broom, a sea of blood, everywhere.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It had no meaning to chop off.
All you post is bullshit.
You are a complete waste of time.
Witnessing Zemlyachka’s carnage first-hand, Russian opposition leader Sergei Melgunov said the lampposts of Crimea’s largest city are “richly garnished with wind-swayed corpses” of Ukrainians. In the nearby beach resort of Feodosia, Melgunov and other officials said they observed Zemlyachka commandeer the city’s wells as burial pits. When the shafts were clogged with tortured soldiers and Ukrainian civilians, Melgunov added, she strapped her victims to planks, either roasting them alive in furnaces or drowning them in barges in the Black Sea.
“It’s a pity to waste cartridges on them,” Zemlyachka said. The Kremlin’s chief executioner in Crimea was not modest about having slaughtered some 70,000 of her neighbors in Ukraine.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-battle-over-crimea-could-trigger-put
ins-deadliest-rampage-in-ukraine-yet
Rosalia Zemlyachka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalia_Zemlyachka
You can download the book by Donald Rayfield, Stalin and His Hangmen: The Tyrant and Those Who Killed for Him. New York: Random House, 2004 from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.page/search.php?req=Donald+Rayfield
The book explains why so many Ukrainians in 2022 get killed when imprisoned by Russians:Quote:The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
In December 1938 the GULAG population passed the million mark, and there were nearly as many in the prisons and other labor colonies. In 1938 mortality in the GULAG — overcrowded, chaotic, run by inexperienced and frightened administrators — soared to 90,000 or 10 percent of the inmates. Even so, the camps could not keep up with the mass arrests; those detained in grotesquely overcrowded prisons often died of typhus, dysentery, heat, malnutrition, or torture before they could be executed.
Stalin and Ezhov, therefore, decided that the percentage of “enemies” sentenced to death rather than forced labor must rise from 0.5 to 47 percent. In 1937 and 1938 the NKVD’s own records show that 1,444,923 persons were “convicted” of counterrevolutionary crimes, and of these 681,692 were shot. The flow to the camps was halved, but processing so many prisoners — who had to be beaten into incriminating others and thus provide further fodder for the NKVD — was still unmanageable. The NKVD ran out of paper to record sentences and executions.
Are we gonna read next about tiny preemies ripped from their inubators, dying on the cold, hard floor? Babies roasted on a spit? Russians cleaning fish in toilets bc they've never seen one before?
We've heard all the lies already, sweetcheeks.
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I think he does believe it.
I can't otherwise explain why he would get so strongly behind it.
What stake does any American have in this and why would they condone all of the money going overseas instead of staying right here unless they've bought wholly into Pascal's Wager?
The answer is NONE.
Just as Second was terrified of Covid, he's 100% certain that the only thing keeping us from Nuclear Armageddon is the cannon fodder called the Ukranian People that are being sent to die by NATO and the US.
Second is a static character. He will never change. He will never ask questions. He's hardly human anymore. He's just part of The Message now.
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Quote:You dont REALLY believe the shit you post, do you?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Do you really not understand when Russians talk on TV about "liquidating" Ukrainians? Do you not understand a terror campaign at the level of the Bolshevik Revolution? Rosalia Zemlyachka, aka The Demon, remains the darling of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a superstar at KGB headquarters, and the poster ghoul for what Russia is capable of doing: “We need pitiless, unceasing struggle against the snakes who are hiding in secret,” Rosalia Zemlyachka told the Sebastopol newspaper Vremya. “We must annihilate them, sweep them out with an iron broom, a sea of blood, everywhere.”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It had no meaning to chop off.
All you post is bullshit.
You are a complete waste of time.
Witnessing Zemlyachka’s carnage first-hand, Russian opposition leader Sergei Melgunov said the lampposts of Crimea’s largest city are “richly garnished with wind-swayed corpses” of Ukrainians. In the nearby beach resort of Feodosia, Melgunov and other officials said they observed Zemlyachka commandeer the city’s wells as burial pits. When the shafts were clogged with tortured soldiers and Ukrainian civilians, Melgunov added, she strapped her victims to planks, either roasting them alive in furnaces or drowning them in barges in the Black Sea.
“It’s a pity to waste cartridges on them,” Zemlyachka said. The Kremlin’s chief executioner in Crimea was not modest about having slaughtered some 70,000 of her neighbors in Ukraine.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-battle-over-crimea-could-trigger-put
ins-deadliest-rampage-in-ukraine-yet
Rosalia Zemlyachka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalia_Zemlyachka
You can download the book by Donald Rayfield, Stalin and His Hangmen: The Tyrant and Those Who Killed for Him. New York: Random House, 2004 from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.page/search.php?req=Donald+Rayfield
The book explains why so many Ukrainians in 2022 get killed when imprisoned by Russians:Quote:The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
In December 1938 the GULAG population passed the million mark, and there were nearly as many in the prisons and other labor colonies. In 1938 mortality in the GULAG — overcrowded, chaotic, run by inexperienced and frightened administrators — soared to 90,000 or 10 percent of the inmates. Even so, the camps could not keep up with the mass arrests; those detained in grotesquely overcrowded prisons often died of typhus, dysentery, heat, malnutrition, or torture before they could be executed.
Stalin and Ezhov, therefore, decided that the percentage of “enemies” sentenced to death rather than forced labor must rise from 0.5 to 47 percent. In 1937 and 1938 the NKVD’s own records show that 1,444,923 persons were “convicted” of counterrevolutionary crimes, and of these 681,692 were shot. The flow to the camps was halved, but processing so many prisoners — who had to be beaten into incriminating others and thus provide further fodder for the NKVD — was still unmanageable. The NKVD ran out of paper to record sentences and executions.
Are we gonna read next about tiny preemies ripped from their inubators, dying on the cold, hard floor? Babies roasted on a spit? Russians cleaning fish in toilets bc they've never seen one before?
We've heard all the lies already, sweetcheeks.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
The history scholars who wrote the books would not ruin their own reputations by lying about the Russians, but the reputation of Russians would be ruined unless the Russians lie about what Russians did. Therefore, Russians lie constantly to protect themselves, but that doesn't convince Ukrainians that the Russians are right and history is wrong. One example for Signym:
Why does Russia still deny
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Quote:Pure bullshit
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It had no meaning to chop off.
All you post is bullshit.
You are a complete waste of time.
SECOND: Do you really not understand when Russians talk on TV about "liquidating" Ukrainians? Do you not understand a terror campaign at the level of the Bolshevik Revolution? Rosalia Zemlyachka, aka The Demon, remains the darling of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a superstar at KGB headquarters, and the poster ghoul for what Russia is capable of doing: “We need pitiless, unceasing struggle against the snakes who are hiding in secret,” Rosalia Zemlyachka told the Sebastopol newspaper Vremya. “We must annihilate them, sweep them out with an iron broom, a sea of blood, everywhere.”
Witnessing Zemlyachka’s carnage first-hand, Russian opposition leader Sergei Melgunov said the lampposts of Crimea’s largest city are “richly garnished with wind-swayed corpses” of Ukrainians.
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SECOND blah blah blah...
SIGNY: You dont REALLY believe the shit you post, do you?
Are we gonna read next about tiny preemies ripped from their inubators, dying on the cold, hard floor? Babies roasted on a spit? Russians cleaning fish in toilets bc they've never seen one before?
We've heard all the lies already, sweetcheeks.
SECOND: The history scholars who wrote the books would not ruin their own reputations by lying about the Russians,
Of course they would! How else would mainstream historians get grants and get popular? They lie about the USA all the time!
Have you ever read "A People's History of the United States?" by Zinn? I guarantee it's not like any history you've read, but it's all true.
Quote:
SECOND: Putin’s Ukraine genocide is rooted in Russian impunity for Soviet crimes
More bullshit.
My god, your brain is a mess, isn't it? Fact, fiction, lies, current events, real history,fake history... it's all just a big stew in there, isn't it?
You're really not worth my time.
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Colonel Douglas Macgegor:The calm before the storm
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What an unflattering thumbnail he chose for that video. It looks like he's got the Pfizer Smile.
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Quote:Signym, you are a practitioner of "Whataboutism" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Pure bullshit
SIGNY: You dont REALLY believe the shit you post, do you?
Are we gonna read next about tiny preemies ripped from their inubators, dying on the cold, hard floor? Babies roasted on a spit? Russians cleaning fish in toilets bc they've never seen one before?
We've heard all the lies already, sweetcheeks.
Of course they would! How else would mainstream historians get grants and get popular? They lie about the USA all the time!
Have you ever read "A People's History of the United States?" by Zinn? I guarantee it's not like any history you've read, but it's all true.
More bullshit.
My god, your brain is a mess, isn't it? Fact, fiction, lies, current events, real history,fake history... it's all just a big stew in there, isn't it?
You're really not worth my time.
And I have read Howard Zinn. For anyone who has not, there is 1) a book and 2) a movie.
1) Download a free copy of Howard Zinn’s “A People's History of the United States” at https://libgen.unblockit.page/search.php?req=A+People's+History+of
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2) Howard Zinn: A People's History of the United States (2016)
Plot summary
With the tremendous success of his book, A People's History of the United States, Howard Zinn radically changed the way Americans see themselves. His friend Noam Chomsky says that Zinn literally transformed a generation's conscience. Zinn talks about those who have no voice in the official History: Slaves, Indians, deserters, textile workers, and union men. On two occasions in Paris and Boston, we were lucky enough to meet and film him. Towards the end of his life, Howard Zinn said, "I want to be remembered as someone who enabled people to experience hope and power something they never did before." That is exactly the reason why we want to make this film.
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Quote:Macgregor has an inglorious history.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Colonel Douglas Macgregor: The calm before the storm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor
A sample: In 2014, after Russia annexed Crimea and was engaged in a conflict with Ukraine over its eastern parts, Macgregor appeared on Russian state-owned network RT where he called for the annexation of the Donbas and said residents of the region "are in fact Russians, not Ukrainians, and at the same time, you have Ukrainians in the west and in the north, who are not Russians."
After Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Macgregor appeared on three Fox News programs to speak in support of Russia's actions. Russian state television broadcast excerpts of Macgregor's appearances, which included a characterization of Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy as a "puppet," that Russian forces had been "too gentle" in the early days of the invasion and that Russian president Vladimir Putin was being "demonized" by the United States and NATO. Macgregor said he believed Russia should be allowed to seize whatever parts of Ukraine it wanted.
Here is someone with a history of accomplishment, unlike Macgregor:
Russian chess legend says war in Ukraine is a 'battle between freedom and tyranny' by Alexander Nazaryan
NEW YORK — Chess is a cerebral game, but legendary Soviet grandmaster Garry Kasparov could make it seem like a contact sport. When he was at the height of his powers in the mid-1980s, he approached the chessboard with the buzzing physical intensity of a wrestler consigned to the wrong contest.
Today, his relentless energies are directed entirely against Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom Kasparov approaches with the same singular focus he once reserved for his Soviet nemesis, Anatoly Karpov — who, as it happens, now serves as a pro-Putin parliamentarian. But if the Kremlin autocrat disgusts him, nothing enrages Kasparov like Western hand-wringing over how much to help Ukraine, and for how long.
“Putin is attacking not just Ukraine. He is attacking the entire system of international cooperation,” Kasparov told Yahoo News in a recent interview. “Ukraine is on the frontline of this battle between freedom and tyranny.”
Last week’s congressional elections in the U.S. could complicate Ukrainian aid, especially if Republican skepticism hardens into outright resistance. Speaking at a press conference last week, President Biden expressed hope that aid to Ukraine would continue — but also bristled at charges that he’d given Ukraine too much.
“We’ve not given Ukraine a blank check,” the president told reporters, alluding to a complaint about the extent of Ukraine-focused spending made by Rep. Kevin McCarthy, who will assume the role of House speaker in January. “There’s a lot of things that Ukraine wants that we didn’t do.”
That is precisely the kind of talk that frustrates Kasparov. He praises Biden’s support of the Ukrainian effort, which has been consistently supplemented by European allies, but can’t imagine its scope being scaled back. “It was much less than Ukraine needed and wanted, but much more than Putin expected.”
The war in Ukraine is closer to poker than chess, a contest of stare-downs and bluffs. On the chessboard, an opponent has nowhere to hide his pieces, but poker is by its nature a game of incomplete information, of trying to guess and then being forced to act on those guesses.
Is one of the cards Putin is holding a nuclear strike? How long can an energy-starved Europe last before folding? How long will American aid last?
Kasparov does not ignore those very real considerations, but he also refuses to become paralyzed by the infinite varieties of geopolitical speculation. For him, the war retains an unignorable moral clarity. “I believe Ukraine can and will win,” he says. “I think it’s inevitable. It’s a matter of the cost. And every day of delay, of giving Ukraine what it needs to win, simply is pushing this cost up
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you are a practitioner of "Whataboutism"
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Pure bullshit
SIGNY: You dont REALLY believe the shit you post, do you?
Are we gonna read next about tiny preemies ripped from their inubators, dying on the cold, hard floor? Babies roasted on a spit? Russians cleaning fish in toilets bc they've never seen one before?
We've heard all the lies already, sweetcheeks.
Of course they would! How else would mainstream historians get grants and get popular? They lie about the USA all the time!
Have you ever read "A People's History of the United States?" by Zinn? I guarantee it's not like any history you've read, but it's all true.
More bullshit.
My god, your brain is a mess, isn't it? Fact, fiction, lies, current events, real history,fake history... it's all just a big stew in there, isn't it?
You're really not worth my time.
That's a lie.
I'm calling you a pathological liar who can no longer distinguish lies from reality.
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SECOND: And I have read Howard Zinn.
Another lie.
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Ukraine Rejects Alleged Offer Of "Short Truce" By Russia
Saturday, Nov 19, 2022 - 02:00 PM
It was revealed Friday by the Ukrainian side that the Kremlin has offered Kiev the possibility of reaching an agreement to implement a "short truce". It comes as there are more and more signals from Washington that it's ready to see both sides come to the table for some kind of ceasefire agreement.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Friday that Russian officials had attempted the overture, but he rejected the possibility, at a moment the Ukrainian counteroffensive has made recent gains, especially the retaking of Kherson city and many surrounding villages.
"Russia is now looking for a short truce, a respite to regain strength. Someone may call this the war's end, but such a respite will only worsen the situation," the Ukrainian leader said in a virtual address before the Halifax International Security Forum.
Zelensky then reiterated his hardened resolve to not consider the possibility of talks until Russian forces are defeated. "A truly real, long-lasting and honest peace can only be the result of the complete demolition of Russian aggression," Zelensky said.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-rejects-alleged-offer-s
hort-truce-russia
OMFG, Zelenskiy is a coke head nutcase.
It seems since "Z" rejected negotiations, Russia has gone back to bombing the snot out of western Ukraine. With those missiles they "ran out of".
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Zelenisky is a crack head child rapist that partied with Hunter Biden and gave him a $60k per month gig after Obama and Biden overthrew the Ukranian government in 2014 and gave the job of "President" to Zelensky.
He's one of the few people running countries in the world who are less legitimate than Joe Biden* is.
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Quote:Signym, besides Colonel Douglas MacGregor, there is Scott Ritter for you to quote and post youtube videos.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Colonel Douglas Macgegor:The calm before the storm
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For example: Don’t believe the hype. Ukraine can’t win this war by Scott Ritter.
https://therealnews.com/scott-ritter-dont-believe-the-hype-ukraine-can
t-win-this-war
Ritter argues that Ukraine’s objectives in this war are unachievable, whereas Russia’s can be met through a negotiated settlement. While the war rages on and attempts to sanction Russia continue to backfire, more damage is being done to the people of Europe and Ukraine than to Russia. Ultimately, what must come out of this conflict is an admission from Europe that NATO is an anachronism and a new security paradigm is needed to promote international peace and cooperation. This interview was recorded Nov. 4, 2022.
Signym, if you read the whole interview, Scott Ritter sounds very persuasive. I thought I should check into who this guy is. He was convicted of sex crimes. In October 2011, he received a sentence of 1½ to 5½ years in prison. He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014.
What else? Ritter rejects the Western media's coverage of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Scott Ritter writes various NATO-critical articles for the Russian channel RT (formerly Russia Today).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter#Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Signym, Scott Ritter thinks the same as you. You should start quoting him.
Ritter thinks he was wrongly imprisoned: "Ritter contends the PCRA court abused its discretion when it failed to consider newly discovered evidence that would have precluded the Commonwealth from presenting evidence of Ritter's prior arrests for similar crimes in New York state."
https://casetext.com/case/commonwealth-v-ritter-9
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How Russia depicts its fight in Ukraine
These men are actors. Their bullets are blanks. But in propaganda warfare, they are true warriors and in Russia, there is no doubt they are winning.
See how the Kremlin depicts its fight in Ukraine and you will understand why no amount of battlefield setbacks will dramatically alter the way people perceive the "special military operation".
“This is what we saw with our own eyes. This is what we went through, what my friends and comrades went through. This is pure truth.” (Translated into English: None of this happened. It is all fake. You are suckers to believe us.)
“Today we heard the words of Saint Alexander Nevsky: 'Whoever has truth on their side, God is with them.' God is with us. This is a great fight that we must endure with the help of God.“
The loss of Kherson is spun as unfortunate but necessary, sold as a chance to regroup to a people used to groupthink.
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Former astronaut Scott Kelly spent 340 days on the International Space Station with NASA as part of a program run in collaboration with Russia's space agency Roscosmos.
But the former astronaut added "Russia troll" to his space voyaging resume after Putin sent troops into Ukraine, battling on Twitter with former Roscosmos chief Dmitry Rogozin. Kelly joked that McDonald's was hiring when Rogozin was fired by Putin in July.
In a call with Volodymyr Zelensky, Kelly said Ukraine's president told him he had "trolled Russian propagandists into oblivion."
But he also directed his anger at Russians more generally who endorse a message that Russia is defending itself from Ukrainian "Nazis".
"Some Russians that I know feel like I do about this. Like, this is immoral. This is illegal. This is horrific. They have guilt over it, because it's their country doing it," Kelly told Insider.
But he said others, including a former Russian colleague on the space station, believed Russia was only defending itself.
"How you can come to that conclusion when your army invaded another country is beyond my comprehension, and is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. But these are people that I thought were smart. I thought they were empathetic, but they actually seem to believe this."
"And the only conclusion I can come to is that they've just been conditioned. And brainwashed over decades through their state-controlled media to believe certain things."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-astronaut-scott-kelly-says-
090000679.html
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Could Ukraine Retake Crimea? Dug-in Russian forces mean a long and difficult effort.
by Patrick Tucker, Caitlin M. Kenney and Elizabeth Howe | November 17, 2022
Ben Hodges, a retired lieutenant general who commanded of U.S. Army Europe, said he had recently met with members of the Ukrainian military’s general staff and came away greatly impressed by their plans for a methodical approach to retaking Crimea.
“This will be terrible for [the Russians]. And it's wide open steppes and crappy weather and even relatively easy for the Ukrainians to hit them—but more importantly, to hit the logistics that are in that area,” Hodges said.
He said Ukraine would likely make further attempts to destroy the Russian bridge over the Kerch Strait, which was partially destroyed in October. They’ll also be able to attack Russian resupply lines along the southern portion of the country. He said that the Ukrainians would be in position to make those attempts in January and, perhaps, to liberate Crimea by the summer.
“I'm optimistic. I mean, think of Crimea almost as a trap” for Russia, he said.
But Hodges cautioned that Ukraine’s chances for success would be improved by longer-range missiles such as ATACMS, which can hit targets out to 300 kilometers.
“I mean, they could get Sevastopol from Odesa,” he said, and start “immediately if they had that capability.”
Despite many reassuring statements in support of Ukraine, U.S. officials have signaled no interest in giving Ukraine weapons of that range.
More at https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/11/could-ukraine-retake-crimea
-not-easily/379919/
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Ukrainian nuclear power plant Zaporizhzhia may be world’s most dangerous place now | 60 Minutes
More than a dozen explosions rattled Europe's largest nuclear power plant over the weekend, as renewed shelling around the Ukrainian facility rekindled fears of a possible accident — or even a deliberate strike — that could cause a catastrophic release of radiation.
The angle and direction from which the shells came indicated they were fired from Russian military positions, not Ukrainian forces on the other side of the nearby front lines. The worker, who CBS News cannot identify due to the threat that he and his colleagues have worked under since Russia seized the plant early in its war on Ukraine, said he believed Russian forces had also detonated an explosive inside the facility.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-news-nuclear-power-plant-russia-a
ttack-worker-to-cbs-news-iaea-close-call/
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NEXTA @nexta_tv tweeted
The occupiers mined almost every office in the building of the Security Service of Ukraine in #Kherson.
An ML7 mine was found under a printer in one of the offices.
The Operational Command "South" noted that many of the finds "refer to non-removable devices." (Those "non-removable devices" are booby-traps that will be detonated where found, which will destroy that part of the building.)
12:05 AM · Nov 21, 2022 ·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1594572776014503936
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NY Times Takes Rare Look At Apparent Ukrainian War Crimes
Monday, Nov 21, 2022 - 06:20 PM
The New York Times has in an extremely rare moment (or perhaps more like unprecedented) conducted an in-depth visual investigation of a likely war crime against surrendered Russian troops conducted by Ukrainian forces. Multiple videos from different angles, including drone footage, emerged last week showing the incredibly disturbing scenes as Ukrainian forces were recapturing the village of Makiivka in the Luhansk region.
The videos show ten apparently unarmed Russian soldiers lying facedown on the ground, who early on are seen moving and in a position of surrender as at least four Ukrainian troops stand nearby outside of a house in a farmyard.
By the end of the footage, eleven Russians had been shot dead at close range, in what Russia says was a summary execution of people who at that point (based on their surrender) effectively become non-combatants based on accepted international laws of war.
Via AP: Investigators in Makiivka, where the shooting in the video allegedly took place.
Surprisingly, the videos were initially made public by Ukrainian news sources and soldiers themselves, and were shared widely on social media, as they purportedly showed the 'heroism' of Ukrainian soldiers as they clawed back territory in eastern Ukraine.
...
*One soldier, with his rifle drawn, tentatively approaches the structure where the Russian soldiers are sheltering. The soldier with the machine gun provides cover. Several gunshots are heard — though it’s not clear from where — and the soldier slowly backs away from an outhouse, drawing out the Russian soldiers at gunpoint.*
The report comments that soon after the Russian soldiers emerge from the building, it is clear that an orderly surrender has taken place, with many of the prone Russian solders moving around on the ground after giving up their arms, clearly alive.
But soon after the entire scene turns to carnage:
* Two of the Ukrainians standing by appear to be relaxed and are pointing their rifles toward the ground...
As an 11th Russian soldier emerges from the outhouse, he opens fire, aiming at one of the Ukrainian soldiers. The Ukrainians are taken by surprise. The cellphone camera jolts away as the Ukrainian soldier filming the scene flinches. A frame-by-frame analysis of what happens next shows the Ukrainian soldier standing beside him raise his rifle and aim toward the Russian gunman.
...
The video ends and it’s unclear what happens next. But a second aerial video of the location shows the bloody aftermath," the NYT writes. "The Russian soldiers are lying motionless, apparently dead, most of them positioned as they were when they surrendered. Blood is pooling around them, and some appear to be bleeding from the upper body or head. The soldiers are dressed in the same uniforms with the distinctive red straps and blue marking."*
Edited for brevity,
More, and links at
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ny-times-takes-rare-look-appare
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Ukrainian nuclear power plant Zaporizhzhia may be world’s most dangerous place now | 60 Minutes
More than a dozen explosions rattled Europe's largest nuclear power plant over the weekend, as renewed shelling around the Ukrainian facility rekindled fears of a possible accident — or even a deliberate strike — that could cause a catastrophic release of radiation.
The angle and direction from which the shells came indicated they were fired from Russian military positions,
Bullshit.
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THGR, would it be possible to stop posting such mindless rah-rah-ism?
I'm embarrassed for you, and I don't even like you.
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Quote:Signym, what are your sophisticated feelings about bombing civilians? Is it criminal? Or does it receive your "mindless rah-rah-ism" approval? Or do you bring forth whataboutism from your rhetorical toolkit? (Cue the WW2 references.)
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THGR, would it be possible to stop posting such mindless rah-rah-ism?
I'm embarrassed for you, and I don't even like you.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Russian TV Host Slammed by Pundit: 'It's Criminal To Bomb Peaceful Cities'
In a rare moment of dissent on Russian television, host Vladimir Solovyov's threats to destroy Kyiv and wipe Kharkiv "off the face of the Earth" in response to Ukrainian shelling were met with condemnation by one of his guests on Russia-1.
Yaakov Kedmi calls the host's ideas to bomb Ukrainian cities into submissions "obscene."
"It's obscene, it's not constructive, it's criminal to bomb peaceful cities. These words, 'To wipe Kyiv and Kharkiv off the face of the Earth,' they should not be uttered, especially in Russia," Kedmi said.
"There were no wars in history, where the bombing of a peaceful city, of a civilian population, ever led to some kind of results on the battlefield. Would they be deterred by that? When did it ever happen? It didn't happen in any war," he concluded.
Solovyov, who had been listening quietly, didn't appear upset by Kedmi's comment, quickly saying: "Fine, then we'll keep responding on the level of a girl in the 5th grade, who's crying that our peaceful cities are being bombed."
"I didn't say that," Kedmi said, "but that's the other option. [...] It's not an option to bomb a peaceful city and its population. [...] There are 1,001 ways to fight without touching civilians."
Solovyov, who had until then tried to defend his position saying they would first warn civilians before bombing their cities, remained temporarily quiet by the end of Kedmi's speech, standing with arms crossed and head down.
The episode is a rare example of disagreement among some of the Kremlin's strongest supporters.
As the conflict continues without any significant victories for Russia, Solovyov often mentions Russia's capacity to launch a nuclear strike and calls for the Kremlin to bomb and destroy Ukrainian cities.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-tv-host-slammed-pundit-criminal-bomb-
peaceful-cities-1760991
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Ukraine Launches Assault to Oust Russia From Key Black Sea Peninsula
Ukraine’s military said it launched an operation to push Russian forces from a strategic peninsula on the country’s Black Sea coast, as Kyiv looks to open up its besieged ports and build on significant gains through the country’s south.
Ukrainian forces have begun an assault on the Kinburn Spit, a strip of land jutting into the sea south of Mykolaiv, that has been occupied for months by Russian forces cutting off access to the port city.
“For now, this military operation is in silent mode,” said Natalia Humeniuk, a spokeswoman for Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command, on Ukrainian television late Monday. Ms. Humeniuk didn’t say when the operation had started but said stormy weather provided an advantage for Ukrainian forces in the area.
The larger Kinburn Peninsula is a key strategic prize for Ukraine. The sliver of land lies at a key maritime choke point leading to the port cities of Mykolaiv and Kherson, at the mouth of two large rivers, the Southern Buh and the Dnipro.
Russian forces have used the spit to launch missile, drone and artillery strikes that have hammered the city of Mykolaiv, which remains in Ukrainian control but has suffered under heavy Russian fire throughout the war.
Reclaiming the peninsula could also provide relief to hundreds of thousands of people living in the Mykolaiv region. The near-constant Russian shelling has damaged schools, hospitals, grain silos, port infrastructure and many civilian homes.
The new operation comes as Ukrainian forces attempt to expand on a sweeping offensive that has recaptured vast swaths of land previously occupied by Russia in southern Ukraine. Ukrainian forces earlier this month took back the city of Kherson, the only regional capital claimed by the Kremlin since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine began last February.
Russian forces launched heavy shelling of Kherson on Monday, a senior Ukrainian official said, attacking at a moment when Ukrainian authorities were working to restore normal life to the city. Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, called the shelling “systematic.”
“There is no military logic: they just want to take revenge on the locals. This is a huge war crime live,” Mr. Zelensky said in a tweet.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-launches-assault-to-oust-
russia-from-key-black-sea-peninsula/ar-AA14oNwc
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Quote:Ukraine's ability to threaten the port of Novorossiysk in southern Russia places Russia's Black Sea Fleet in jeopardy, according to an assessment by Britain's defense ministry.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
In its daily intelligence update on the Ukraine war, the U.K.'s defense ministry referenced an apparent attack on Novorossiysk in the Krasnodar region it says was reported by multiple Ukrainian and Russian media outlets on November 18.
Putin moved his Black Sea Fleet from Crimea to Novorossiysk in the Krasnodar region after Ukrainian attacks deep into Crimea.
The defense ministry's update noted that although full details of the Novorossiysk incident are yet to emerge, any demonstration of a Ukrainian capability to threaten Novorossiysk would "highly likely represent a further strategic challenge" for Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-black-sea-fleet-ukraine-strike-crimea-
uk-1761302
Google Maps from Sevastopol to the Port of Novorossiysk, Russia
https://goo.gl/maps/r2sjqNhCGZHehLrT9
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First there was a massive push and invasion by Russia, it looked like they took over half of Ukraine then a push back came from Ukraine rebels, fighters, soldiers
There was great success when bullets and bombs were supplied to counter attack, as Drones and Anti-Tank missiles came in NATO, the USA, the neighbor countries of Ukraine giving supply and aid
but now something different happens, Russian unitshave been seen in Belarus again.
I think the war might be entering something of a stalemate these past weeks and days, apart from the Russian order to retreat back to a line beyond the river at the city of Kherson, Ukrainian forces subsequently started entering the city early November 2022 but outside of this there seems to be little activity and not much shift in the lines of battle
Here is a pic made
There are attacks
but the lines of battle seem to have moved very little
There is an ongoing refugee crisis in Europe after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Over 7.8 million refugees fleeing Ukraine have been recorded across Europe, refugees initially entered neighboring countries to the west of Ukraine that is Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Moldova.
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THGR, would it be possible to stop posting such mindless rah-rah-ism?
I'm embarrassed for you, and I don't even like you.
Comrade Signym calls the global news and world leaders’ comments concerning Russia and Ukraine that I post here, mindless rah-rah-ism.
It is the news as its being reported around the world, along with the opinions of the world’s leaders. So in effect, she is claiming anything that differs from Putins’ propaganda to be cheerleading against Russia and biased. Facts Signym, it is the facts about what is going on. And, it is going down exactly as I’ve been saying it would this past decade in our many, many exchanges.
Russia is dead. It is slowly coming to terms with it. You should too.
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Quote:The lines of battle do not need to move because Russians are willingly jumping into the furnace and being burnt to death:
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The Village Of Pavlivka Is A ‘Furnace’ Burning Up Russian Marine Brigades
by David Axe, Forbes Staff, Nov 21, 2022, 08:00am EST
Call it a countercounteroffensive. Two months after the Ukrainian armed forces launched twin counteroffensives in eastern and southern Ukraine, rapidly liberating Kharkiv and Kherson Oblasts from months of brutal Russian occupation, Russian forces pushed back.
But where the Ukrainian counteroffensives resulted in major breakthroughs for the Ukrainians—and galloping retreats by local Russian troops—the Russian countercounteroffensive is a brutal, bloody slog that appears to be killing more Russians than Ukrainians. Worse for the Russians, they’re not gaining significant ground.
Three weeks ago, the Russians attacked west of Donetsk, the capital of the separatist Donetsk People’s Republic. Their aim: to wrest control of all of Donetsk Oblast from the Ukrainians. Russian and separatist regiments and mercenaries from The Wagner Group attacked the Ukrainian garrisons in Bakhmut, Siversk, Pavlivka and other settlements in western Donetsk.
It’s not going well for the Russians and their allies. “The Ukrainians are fighting a very, very successful mobile defense,” U.S. Army Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters on Wednesday.
The ongoing battle for Pavlivka, 25 miles southwest of Donetsk, is a tragic microcosm of Russia’s failing campaign. For three weeks, the Russian marine corps’ 155th and 40th Naval Infantry Brigades and other forces have been trying, and failing, to pry the Ukrainian 72nd Mechanized Brigade from Pavlivka, which before the war had a population of 2,500.
The marines lost as many as 300 troops killed, wounded or missing in just the first few days of their assaults on Pavlivka. The losses continued over the next couple of weeks as Ukrainian artillery blasted exposed Russian infantry and Ukrainian missile teams knocked out Russian tanks.
Aleksandr Khodakovsky, a notorious separatist commander in Donetsk Oblast, described Pavlivka as a “furnace” for the Russian marine brigades. The problem, Khodakovsky explained, is marine commanders’ inability to concentrate their surviving forces in order to defeat Ukrainian troops at critical points in the defensive line and achieve a breakthrough. “Planning errors have led to unjustified losses with a meager result,” Khodakovsky wrote.
It’s possible Russian forces cling to the southern edge of Pavlivka—the “meager result” Khodakovsky referenced. But capturing a few blocks of a tiny village isn’t worth the cost of hundreds or thousands of lives in two of the Russians’ few intact brigades. The 155th and 40th Naval Infantry Brigades, which at their peak strength each oversaw 3,000 troops, surely can’t sustain these kinds of losses much longer.
The outlook is bleak for the Kremlin as the Ukrainian counterattack gains momentum and the Russian countercounterattack falters. “The Ukrainians have achieved success after success after success and the Russians have failed every single time,” Milley said. “They've lost strategically, they’ve lost operationally, and I repeat, they lost tactically.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/11/21/the-village-of-pavliv
ka-is-a-furnace-for-two-russian-marine-brigades/
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The Wizard of Oz (Perhaps the title is a reference to this quote: “As for you, my fine friend, you're a victim of disorganized thinking. You are under the unfortunate delusion that simply because you run away from danger, you have no courage. You're confusing courage with wisdom.” — The Wizard of Oz)
More than 100,000 Russian troops have died since Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine, according to American estimates that Agence France-Presse cited. The same experts estimated that Ukraine likely has suffered a similar number of losses.
Ukraine has disputed those estimates, ABC News reported. Putin has never released realistic numbers for Russia’s war dead. But more Russian civilians are voicing their displeasure about high mortality rates in Ukraine, wrote the Washington Post. Their anger reflects stories from soldiers at the front who describe equipment shortages, unorganized leadership, and incompetence.
“A Ukrainian drone first flew over us, and after that their artillery started to pound us for hours and hours, nonstop,” Russian conscript Aleksei Agafonov told the Guardian, adding that his unit was ordered to dig trenches but didn’t have enough shovels. “I saw men being ripped apart in front of me, most of our unit is gone, destroyed. It was hell.”
Putin is showing no signs of relenting. He recently sent 50,000 more soldiers to the war zone and has another 250,000 in training as part of a massive call-up of troops dating from September. But sending more drafted men into the meatgrinder won’t help Russia’s cause, argued Center for American Progress senior fellow Larry Korb on Military.com.
With the help of Western weaponry, including new experimental weapons, as the New York Times explained, Ukrainians have gained the momentum in the war, recently retaking the city of Kherson, a major prize. (As CNN reported, survivors are now sharing stories of the brutality, including torture chambers, under Russian occupation.) Meanwhile, Russia’s new draftees were preparing to fight 60 km back from the frontline in Ukraine, suggesting they expect more Ukrainian advancements, the Independent noted.
At the same time, Putin’s hawkish allies appear to be fragmenting. Radio Free Europe referred to Putin’s close ally and pro-war advocate, Yevgeny Prigozhin, as Grigory Rasputin, the Svengali-like monk who controlled Russia’s last tsar in the early 20th century before the Soviet revolution. An oligarch whose wealth comes from lucrative Kremlin catering contracts, Prigozhin owns the private mercenary company, the Wagner Group. To show how demented Russian militarists like Prigozhin have become, the Bulwark related a gruesome story about a hapless Wagner fighter who made the mistake of admitting to switching sides and joining Ukraine, before being murdered on video with a sledgehammer.
Prigozhin might accumulate more wealth as the war drags on. Other oligarchs might not be so optimistic. As the Russian army loses on the battlefield, the Russian economy is on its knees, too. Amid harsh Western sanctions and partial economic isolation, skyrocketing expenses related to the war and exacerbated supply-chain worries and other post-pandemic concerns, the Russian economy shrunk by 4 percent in the third quarter of the year, reported Reuters, officially tipping into recession.
Perhaps hundreds of thousands of ill-trained, ill-supplied recruits will win the day for Russia. Maybe the cold winter will force the West to buy more Russian energy, throwing Putin a lifeline. China could run to Putin’s rescue, too. Or Russia might continue to lose, lose, lose.
https://www.dailychatter.com/2022/11/22/the-wizard-of-oz/
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Quote:Yes, because it is.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THGR, would it be possible to stop posting such mindless rah-rah-ism?
I'm embarrassed for you, and I don't even like you.
THGR: Comrade Signym calls the global news and world leaders’ comments concerning Russia and Ukraine that I post here, mindless rah-rah-ism.
You call it "world news" and "world" leaders but in reality your "news" comes from a tightly linked group of western, neocon-controlled people who get their "talking points" from somebody deep in the State Department.
Seriously. They have such a stake in the matter, do you really expect them to tell you the truth?
What do you EXPECT them to say?
"We're getting our ass handed to us militarily and economically and there's nothing we can do about it except throw more assets and people into the bonfire"?
You should listen to Brian, who follows the ACTUAL military situation (supplies, logistics, casualties, frontline news) from Ukrainian, American, and Russian sources
Or maybe the Duran
which also pays attention to world politics and economies
I could also point you in the direction of Colonel Douglas Macgegor, former CIA and security contractor Larry Johnson, Moon of Alabama (written by a German) and others who have more objective opinions and don't have such personal, professional and financial stake in Ukraine.
With so many better, more diverse sources, why do you stick with known liars??
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Quote:The Ancient Absurdities of “Ancient Apocalypse”
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You call it "world news" and "world" leaders but in reality your "news" comes from a tightly linked group of western, neocon-controlled people who get their "talking points" from somebody deep in the State Department.
Seriously. They have such a stake in the matter, do you really expect them to tell you the truth?
What do you EXPECT them to say?
"We're getting our ass handed to us militarily and economically and there's nothing we can do about it except throw more assets and people into the bonfire"?
You should listen to Brian, who follows the ACTUAL military situation (supplies, logistics, casualties, frontline news) from Ukrainian, American, and Russian sources
Or maybe the Duran
which also pays attention to world politics and economies
I could also point you in the direction of Colonel Douglas Macgegor, former CIA and security contractor Larry Johnson, Moon of Alabama (written by a German) and others who have more objective opinions and don't have such personal, professional and financial stake in Ukraine.
With so many better, more diverse sources, why do you stick with known liars??
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
A Netflix show for “free thinkers” promotes a whole lot of bunk. It’s hugely popular.
Signym has found similar programs on youtube. Call it “Russian Apocalypse”. It’s hugely popular. And a whole lot of bunk.
https://slate.com/culture/2022/11/ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-ne
tflix-theory-explained.html
Quote:
What’s interesting to me about this series getting super popular on Netflix is that I’m not sure what percentage of the people who are watching it know that the theory of Atlantis used to be, or sometimes still is, that kind of a theory. I think I can imagine the answer to this question: What are the stakes of this show being popular on Netflix for what our sense of what science is? It’s just more disinformation, more distrust of expertise. But what would you say are the stakes for archaeology?
The biggest stakes right now in the United States are what happens to academic archaeology if university administrators and students and alumni begin demanding that departments of anthropology and archaeology at the university support this line of thinking.
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Freezing Russian Troops Giving Away Positions by Lighting Fires
Poorly equipped mobilized Russian troops in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region have been left with no choice but to light fires to keep themselves warm. In doing so, the Russian soldiers are exposing their positions to Ukraine's armed forces.
"The newly mobilized, who have not yet been taught how to properly disguise themselves and not unmask their position, and have poor ammunition—they lit fires, smoked in the trenches— unmasked positions for the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine," Cherevaty said, Ukraine's Liga News reported.
Cherevaty also said that Russian soldiers are wearing low-quality clothing and boots that are unsuitable for the colder weather. As the average high temperature will drop from 13 degrees Celsius (55 degrees Fahrenheit) through September to November, to zero degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit) through December to February, troops will be more unwilling to fight, particularly at night, while those lacking in winter weather clothing and accommodation are highly likely to suffer from non-freezing cold injuries.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/russian-troops-winter-equipment-fires-ukraine
-1761396
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Quote:More name-calling, SECOND? You call these videos "bunk" and "Russian" without ever SHOWING that they're either bunk or Russian.
Originally posted by second:Quote:The Ancient Absurdities of “Ancient Apocalypse”
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You call it "world news" and "world" leaders but in reality your "news" comes from a tightly linked group of western, neocon-controlled people who get their "talking points" from somebody deep in the State Department.
Seriously. They have such a stake in the matter, do you really expect them to tell you the truth?
What do you EXPECT them to say?
"We're getting our ass handed to us militarily and economically and there's nothing we can do about it except throw more assets and people into the bonfire"?
You should listen to Brian, who follows the ACTUAL military situation (supplies, logistics, casualties, frontline news) from Ukrainian, American, and Russian sources
Or maybe the Duran
which also pays attention to world politics and economies
I could also point you in the direction of Colonel Douglas Macgegor, former CIA and security contractor Larry Johnson, Moon of Alabama (written by a German) and others who have more objective opinions and don't have such personal, professional and financial stake in Ukraine.
With so many better, more diverse sources, why do you stick with known liars??
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
A Netflix show for “free thinkers” promotes a whole lot of bunk. It’s hugely popular.
Signym has found similar programs on youtube. Call it “Russian Apocalypse”. It’s hugely popular. And a whole lot of bunk.
https://slate.com/culture/2022/11/ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-ne
tflix-theory-explained.htmlQuote:
What’s interesting to me about this series getting super popular on Netflix is that I’m not sure what percentage of the people who are watching it know that the theory of Atlantis used to be, or sometimes still is, that kind of a theory. I think I can imagine the answer to this question: What are the stakes of this show being popular on Netflix for what our sense of what science is? It’s just more disinformation, more distrust of expertise. But what would you say are the stakes for archaeology?
The biggest stakes right now in the United States are what happens to academic archaeology if university administrators and students and alumni begin demanding that departments of anthropology and archaeology at the university support this line of thinking.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
For example, when Brian Berletic (New Atlas) says that the USA is running out if weapons and ammo to give to Ukraine, digging deeper and deeper (and older and older) into it's pile of unused weapons to give to Ukraine, he references US ANNOUNCEMENTS of weapons transfers. And when he discusses the front line, he looks at KIEV's maps. It would be hard to find a more neutral source.
Yanno that thread about "calling someone a Russian troll proves you have no argument"?
Yeah. Go re-read that, because every time you do that, you prove you have no argument.
Plus, you're lying.
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Quote:Signym, there is a lovely article published today that might give you insight about what is real and what is religious belief: Why Noah’s Ark will never be found (National Geographic)
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More name-calling, SECOND? You call these videos "bunk" and "Russian" without ever SHOWING that they're either bunk or Russian.
For example, when Brian Berletic (New Atlas) says that the USA is running out if weapons and ammo to give to Ukraine, digging deeper and deeper (and older and older) into it's pile of unused weapons to give to Ukraine, he references US ANNOUNCEMENTS of weapons transfers. And when he discusses the front line, he looks at KIEV's maps. It would be hard to find a more neutral source.
Yanno that thread about "calling someone a Russian troll proves you have no argument"?
Yeah. Go re-read that, because every time you do that, you prove you have no argument.
Plus, you're lying.
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https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2022/11/
why-noahs-ark-will-never-be-found
For more than a century, people have sought the Old Testament vessel that survived the biblical deluge. Archaeologists say it’s a fool’s errand.
There are approximately 198,000,000 more articles about Noah's Ark at https://www.google.com/search?q=no+one+will+ever+prove+that+noah's
+ark+was+found
Signym, you and 198,000,000 people have powerful belief in Russia. I have total disbelief in Russia and the Bible's Noah's Ark because both Russia and the Bible are man-made products by people who were not particularly competent at mundane life, this earthly world rather than a heavenly or spiritual one, yet these people were highly articulate and very skilled at tricking, deceiving, fooling others into believing fiction is reality.
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SECOND, I'm posting (USA-issued) facts and figures and you're posting Noah's Ark?
You're the one with beliefs.
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Quote:During the Vietnam War, (USA-issued) facts and figures were in every newspaper, monthly magazine, and TV news report. One set of facts was clear: America extensively damaged Vietnamese real estate while almost no American real estate was damaged. Checking wiki, America was on the losing side. In the distant future, I will check wiki to see who won the war in Ukraine, but for now Russia is extensively damaging Ukrainian real estate while almost no Russian real estate is damaged. Will that achieve a win for Russia? Only time will tell.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I'm posting (USA-issued) facts and figures and you're posting Noah's Ark?
You're the one with beliefs.
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https://sonar21.com/ukraines-military-death-throes/
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Quote:Signym, your article says: "At some point before the end of the year I anticipate that Russia will launch a massive counter offensive." The article is selling a single idea. There is only one scenario: Russian victory is total.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-military-death-throes/
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Signym, there isn't one scenario. There are three.
Three scenarios for how war in Ukraine could play out
By Shashank Joshi: Defence editor, The Economist
Consider three scenarios for the year ahead.
1) In the first, Russia snatches victory from the jaws of defeat. Russia’s army stabilises the front lines over the winter months, while building new battalions with freshly mobilised recruits. Meanwhile, Republicans in America block new arms packages for Ukraine, as supplies from Europe run out. Russia’s defence industry is starved of semiconductors and specialised equipment, but churns out enough basic armour and artillery to equip the new forces.
By the spring, the new Russian units go on the attack, forcing back a Ukrainian force that is weary from months of offensive action. Russian drones continue to hammer Ukraine’s energy and water infrastructure. As summer arrives, Ukraine is on the back foot. Russia captures Kryvyi Rih, a key industrial town north of Kherson, and Slovyansk and Kramatorsk in Donetsk. Western countries urge Ukraine to accept a Russian offer of a ceasefire. Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president, has little choice but to accept. In the months, perhaps years, that follow, Russia assiduously rearms for another attempt on Kyiv.
2) Far more likely is a second scenario: stalemate. Russia mobilises hundreds of thousands of young men, but cannot turn them into effective fighters. All the best trainers are on the front lines. Experienced officers are dead or already deployed. The recruits are fashioned into basic light-infantry units, lacking armoured vehicles and unfit to go on the offensive—but able to fill trenches and man fortifications.
Russia, having announced a withdrawal from Kherson city in November, safely evacuates the 30,000 or so troops it had on the west bank of the Dnieper river. They retreat east, leaving huge amounts of weaponry behind. It is a triumph for Ukraine, but it ultimately puts Russia in a stronger military position, with the river protecting its left flank. The Ukrainian advance slows to a crawl; Ukrainian troops take heavy casualties for each kilometre of territory won.
Unable to win the war on the battlefield, Mr Putin then tries to prolong it long enough to undermine Ukraine’s economy, sap its morale through strikes on civilian infrastructure and exhaust its partners. Europe struggles to fill its gas-storage sites during 2023, causing blackouts as winter arrives. Mr Putin aims to hold out until late 2024, when he hopes Donald Trump will retake the White House and end support for Ukraine. But it is a high-stakes gamble: Russian opinion turns against the war, its economy shrivels and Mr Putin looks ever more vulnerable.
3) The third scenario is the most encouraging—and perhaps the most dangerous. Ukraine keeps the initiative and the momentum, inflicting heavy damage on Russian forces as they leave Kherson and then bringing its long-range HIMARs rockets within range of Crimea for the first time. Russian lines in Luhansk collapse, with Ukraine recapturing Severodonetsk and then quickly moving farther east. As Russian casualties mount, new recruits refuse to fight. Western countries rush new air-defence systems to Ukraine, blunting the impact of Russia’s terror tactics, based on its rapidly dwindling arsenal of precision missiles.
In the spring Mr Zelensky orders his army to open a new front in Zaporizhia. Five brigades slice through Russian lines, cutting Mr Putin’s land bridge to Crimea and encircling Mariupol by the summer. Ukraine moves its HIMARs rocket launchers into the south, targeting ports, bases and de
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Quote:The article was written by Larry C. Johnson. He is best known for spreading a hoax in 2008 that Republican operatives had a videotape of Michelle Obama complaining about "whitey". In 2013, Johnson falsely accused John Kerry of war crimes in Vietnam, alleging that Kerry had "raped some poor Vietnamese woman."
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-military-death-throes/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson
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Unlike you, SECOND, I don't re-post every POS I find on the inet. So you won't find me posting about Trump being peed on by Russian hos, or Michelle complaining about whitey.
Where there is evidence for something, I post about it.
Also, your "three predictions" are already seriously out of date. Russia withdrew from Kherson, but in good order with all of their equipment.
Try to keep up.
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Quote:Nine months of Russia’s all-out war in numbers
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unlike you, SECOND, I don't re-post every POS I find on the inet. So you won't find me posting about Trump being peed on by Russian hos, or Michelle complaining about whitey.
Where there is evidence for something, I post about it.
Also, your "three predictions" are already seriously out of date. Russia withdrew from Kherson, but in good order with all of their equipment.
Try to keep up.
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5,595 civilians killed
440 children killed
2 million civilians illegally deported by Russia
47,145 Russian war crimes under investigation
10,189 civilians injured
847 children injured
323 children missing
4,500 missiles fired by Russia
Note: Ukraine doesn't publish its military casualties. The number of civilian casualties is expected to be higher since it doesn't include data from the areas with heavy hostilities or those occupied by Russia.
Sources: Office of UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, President Volodymyr Zelensky, President’s Office, Prosecutor General’s Office, National Police
10:24 AM · Nov 24, 2022 · Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1595815705357815815
Signym, win or lose, a big repair bill will be sent to Russia for the damage to real estate in Ukraine. I suppose Russia won't pay if it loses and cannot afford to completely fix all it destroyed if it wins.
How much damage has been done to Ukraine?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+damage+has+been+done+to+ukrai
ne%3F
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Quote:I think by now you'd get tired of posting bullshit, SECOND.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Nine months of Russia’s all-out war in numbers
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unlike you, SECOND, I don't re-post every POS I find on the inet. So you won't find me posting about Trump being peed on by Russian hos, or Michelle complaining about whitey.
Where there is evidence for something, I post about it.
Also, your "three predictions" are already seriously out of date. Russia withdrew from Kherson, but in good order with all of their equipment.
Try to keep up.
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5,595 civilians killed
440 children killed
2 million civilians illegally deported by Russia
47,145 Russian war crimes under investigation
10,189 civilians injured
847 children injured
323 children missing
4,500 missiles fired by Russia
Note: Ukraine doesn't publish its military casualties. The number of civilian casualties is expected to be higher since it doesn't include data from the areas with heavy hostilities or those occupied by Russia.
Sources: Office of UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, President Volodymyr Zelensky, President’s Office, Prosecutor General’s Office, National Police
10:24 AM · Nov 24, 2022 · Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1595815705357815815
Signym, win or lose, a big repair bill will be sent to Russia for the damage to real estate in Ukraine. I suppose Russia won't pay if it loses and cannot afford to completely fix all it destroyed if it wins.
How much damage has been done to Ukraine?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+damage+has+been+done+to+ukrai
ne%3F
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
The west never had any intentions of releasing the Russian assets that it seized, so that money was gone six month ago. And I doubt Russia will respond to anything an impotent court is going to order.
What is the west going to do? Sanction Russia some more??
/snicker
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This is how the alpabet-agency-medua-lie-mschinw works.
Lie your head off.
And if it blows up, throw hapless reporter under the bus:
Quote:
Fired AP Reporter Who 'Risked Triggering WWIII' Actually Did Nothing Wrong
Wednesday, Nov 23, 2022 - 04:20 PM
On Tuesday we [and many other] reported that the Associated Press had fired reporter James LaPorta, two days before his birthday, over an erroneous report which cited a 'senior US intelligence official,' who claimed that a Russian missile fired into Poland had killed two civilians.
If true, the bombshell development could have potentially triggered 'Article 5' - the mutual defense agreement between NATO members, risking WWIII.
AP later retracted the story after it was revealed that Ukraine fired the missile, and the outlet issued the following correction which pinned blame on the anonymous intelligence official:
* In earlier versions of a story published November 15, 2022, The Associated Press reported erroneously, based on information from a senior American intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity, that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland and killed two people. Subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack.*
Five days after the report, LaPorta was fired. But Slack messages obtained by Semafor reveal that he did nothing wrong - aside from working for AP in the first place.
The messages begin with LaPorta passing along a tip from a "senior American intelligence official" who was "vetted by Ron Nixon." Nixon is an Associated Press vice president.
Via Semafor
Next, editor Lisa Leff asked if the wire service could run with the narrative despite having a single source - which is against AP's rules for anonymous sources.
"that call is above my pay grade," LaPorta replied.
Another AP reporter, Vanessa Gera, suggests moving forward with the report, writing, "I can't imagine a US intelligence official would be wrong on this."
Leff then asks LaPorta if he is "in position to work up an urgent" - to which he replies, "No, I'm actually at a doctor's appointment. What I passed is all I know at the moment."
Then, Gera and Leff decide to run with it.
In short, LaPorta - a former USMC infantryman, was fired after forwarding a tip from a vetted source, and then demurring when asked if he thought they should run with it.
He has since been ordered not to comment on the situation, saying that he "would love to comment on the record, but I have been ordered by the AP to not comment." As such, Zero Hedge has not reached out for comment.
Oddly (or maybe there's a perfectly good reason for it), journalist John Leichester's name was also on the byline of the article in question despite being nowhere in the slack conversation - though he wasn't fired.
* While LaPorta said Nixon had vetted his source, Nixon later said he did not know that the source was being cited for the missile story, according to people who spoke to David Bauder, an Associated Press reporter.
The Associated Press has taken additional disciplinary action but declined to say against whom that action was taken. There have been no reports of any person besides LaPorta losing a job, including John Leicester, who was also listed on the byline.
According to Bauder, Leicester was not involved with the anonymously sourced material being placed into the story. -The Epoch Times*
Most importantly, however, who was the anonymous 'senior US intelligence official' that fed LaPorta a false narrative which risked WWIII?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fired-ap-reporter-who-risked-trigg
ering-wwiii-actually-did-nothing-wrong
Images of internal AP discussion here
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/pu
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https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-publi
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Quote:Russia now has an economy smaller than Canada. Did you ever wonder how Russia did poorly with all the land and people it has? Since most Russians can't compare Russia to other countries, Russians will never sense what is wrong, will they? But Russia can keep falling in the same way North Korea keeps falling behind South Korea. North Korea handles that by making it a crime to know.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think by now you'd get tired of posting bullshit, SECOND.
The west never had any intentions of releasing the Russian assets that it seized, so that money was gone six month ago. And I doubt Russia will respond to anything an impotent court is going to order.
What is the west going to do? Sanction Russia some more??
/snicker
North Korea has the world’s fourth-largest military, with more than 1.2 million personnel, and is believed to possess chemical and biological weapons. While it remains among the poorest countries in the world, North Korea spends nearly a quarter of its gross domestic product (GDP) on its military.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-nuclear-weapons-missile-t
ests-military-capabilities
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Quote:Keep telling yourself that, SECOND.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Russia now has an economy smaller than Canada. Did you ever wonder how Russia did poorly with all the land and people it has? Since most Russians can't compare Russia to other countries, Russians will never sense what is wrong, will they? But Russia can keep falling in the same way North Korea keeps falling behind South Korea. North Korea handles that by making it a crime to know.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think by now you'd get tired of posting bullshit, SECOND.
The west never had any intentions of releasing the Russian assets that it seized, so that money was gone six month ago. And I doubt Russia will respond to anything an impotent court is going to order.
What is the west going to do? Sanction Russia some more??
/snicker
North Korea has the world’s fourth-largest military, with more than 1.2 million personnel, and is believed to possess chemical and biological weapons. While it remains among the poorest countries in the world, North Korea spends nearly a quarter of its gross domestic product (GDP) on its military.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-nuclear-weapons-missile-t
ests-military-capabilities
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
I'm sure it will help... something.
/snicker
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Quote:Signym, I suppose you don't know that North Korea's Army exists to prevent South Korea from conquering the North. But the North Korean Army has a dual purpose. Not only can it defend against a South Korean attack, but it can, surprise!, also invade South Korea. The various Kims who have controlled North Korea never have tried another invasion since the Korean Armistice Agreement of 1953. Perhaps the invasion of the South will never happen because of the strong possibility that the USA would fight along side of South Korea. China will not be fighting along side of North Korea because Chinese leaders are smarter today than Chairman Mao in 1953.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Keep telling yourself that, SECOND.
I'm sure it will help... something.
/snicker
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Russia and Ukraine have a relationship that is similar to North and South Korea. One big difference is that Kim Jong-un is not delusional about the strong cultural ties between North and South, while Putin is delusional about Russian ties to Ukraine. Russia has tried to commit genocide in Ukraine on several occasions. Russians deny it, but who do they think is gullible enough to believe Russian denials? Ukrainians don't believe the Russians. North Korea never did try such genocidal insanity in South Korea.
The other big difference is that the USA won't fight along side of Ukraine. If North Korea had a border with Ukraine, it could do as much or more damage to Ukraine than Russia has done because the USA will not fight North Koreans invading Ukraine. The USA will fight North Koreans invading South Korea because of the history behind the Korean War way back in 1953.
Signym, you can place as many /snicker tags as you want in your reply, but that shows you understand very little, much the same as Russians don't understand why Ukrainians fight rather than surrender or why Russia is poor. Russians do not understand extremely simple concepts and that has made Russia a much poorer country than Russia would be if its people would get a clue about what they are doing wrong and, using their commonsense, stop doing it.
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Hahaha!
/snicker
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Quote:The Russians and the North Koreans keep telling themselves that there is no connection between their international belligerency and their relative poverty compared to countries in similar conditions. The USA's belligerent attitude hasn't helped it to prosper, either. If the Iraq War and Afghanistan War hadn't been fought, the USA would be in better economic shape. Iraq and Afghanistan would have been better off, too. Looking backwards, the Napoleons of the World are in charge of where and when to go to war. The Napoleons fight while their country pays a price for their belligerency.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!
/snicker
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War of the Sixth Coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon#War_of_the_Sixth_Coalition
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Alexander told the Sénat that the Allies were fighting against Napoleon, not France, and they were prepared to offer honourable peace terms if Napoleon were removed from power. The next day, the Sénat passed the Acte de déchéance de l'Empereur ("Emperor's Demise Act"), which declared Napoleon deposed.
Napoleon had advanced as far as Fontainebleau when he learned that Paris had fallen. When Napoleon proposed the army march on the capital, his senior officers and marshals mutinied.[206] On 4 April, led by Ney, the senior officers confronted Napoleon. When Napoleon asserted the army would follow him, Ney replied the army would follow its generals. While the ordinary soldiers and regimental officers wanted to fight on, the senior commanders were unwilling to continue.
Without any senior officers or marshals, any prospective invasion of Paris would have been impossible. Bowing to the inevitable, on 4 April Napoleon abdicated in favour of his son, with Marie Louise as regent. However, the Allies refused to accept this under prodding from Alexander, who feared that Napoleon might find an excuse to retake the throne.[207][208] Napoleon was then forced to announce his unconditional abdication only two days later.[208]
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Russia’s High-Tech Artillery System Was Supposed To Win The War In Ukraine.
The close integration of tanks, infantry and artillery should allow the guns to shoot fast at enemy troops that might break cover for less than a minute at a time. That’s all the time well-trained Russian gunners would need, in theory. “Today, the cycle [from reconnaissance to engagement] takes literally 10 seconds,” said Maj. Gen. Vadim Marusin, deputy chief of staff of Russia’s ground forces.
The fire-control system worked reasonably well on a small scale during the first phase of Russia’s war on Ukraine, in the eastern region of Donbas in 2014 and 2015. Russian batteries frequently disrupted Ukrainian attempts to mass forces for attacks.
But between 2015 and 2022, the Russian army’s biggest campaign was in Syria, where the fighting was infrequent and the enemy was unsophisticated. Artillery skills atrophied, according to Fomin. “The experience of Syria does not suit Ukraine at all,” he wrote.
Moreover, the army grew complacent — and acquired too few Orlan drones to support the fire-control system on a large scale. “On Feb. 24, most of the artillery went into battle with compass and binoculars at hand,” Fomin wrote. “The spotter needed to climb a tree or somewhere else and control the fire — there were not enough [unmanned aerial vehicles] and, in most cases, there was no UAV.”
The radar vehicles were present but couldn’t compensate for the drone shortage. “For the most part, no one knows how to use them or, perhaps, they are not effective,” Fomin wrote of the radars. “I can say one thing for sure: I have never heard at the command post that they received target designation from radar devices.”
With too few drones and broken radar links, and relying on spotters with binoculars clinging to trees, Russian artillery batteries rolling into Ukraine at best were inefficient. At worst, they were blind.
A lack of drones also has prevented Russian batteries from making good use of their Krasnopol laser-guided shells. Orlan-30 drones fitted with laser designators are the best means of guiding the Krasnopols to a target, according to Fomin. But without adequate numbers of Orlans to designate targets, the high-tech shells sit unused.
The situation has improved since February, Fomin claimed. Many batteries now have Chinese-made DJI quadcopter drones. A quadcopter might not have a laser-designator, but it does have a video camera — and that’s a big improvement over a spotter in a tree. Units also have begun swapping messages using social-media app Telegram.
As Russia’s wider war on Ukraine grinds into its ninth month, the Russian artillery fire-control system still isn’t working as designed, Fomin claimed. But it’s not too late, he stressed. “The Russian gods of war will easily solve the issue with Ukraine if more Orlan-30s are given to the troops to adjust Krasnopol,” he claimed.
The problem, of course, is that Russia is struggling to acquire drones. Domestic manufacturers are being squeezed by foreign sanctions, forcing the Kremlin to cut deals with Iranian industry. But even the Iranian drones include many foreign parts. Iran’s drone-makers might also be vulnerable to sanctions.
Worse, the Russian army’s training standards are getting lower, not higher, as experienced troops die or wind up in hospitals — and draftees with no more than two weeks of cursory instruction replace them. What chance do almost untrained conscripts have of operating a sophisticated fire-control system?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-high-tech-artillery-syst
em-was-supposed-to-win-the-war-in-ukraine-but-troops-didn-t-know-how-to-use-it/ar-AA14xJLI
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Quote:Russian soldiers who die in combat in Ukraine “belong to the state,” a regional governor said at a meeting with the mothers of fallen troops Thursday.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!
/snicker
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The blunt comments from Igor Kobzev, the head of the Irkutsk region in southeast Siberia, come as the Russian military officially acknowledges fewer than 6,000 casualties despite suffering major setbacks in its nine-month invasion.
Quoting his own mother's words to him when he enrolled in a military academy, Kobzev, 56, said:
“From now on you don’t belong to me, you belong to the state, the homeland.”
“With honor and great understanding, I hand over an 18-year-old boy into service in the Armed Forces and you’re becoming a person of the state.”
At the meeting, Kobzev awarded medals to the fallen soldiers’ mothers and claimed that only 28 Irkutsk region natives have died in Ukraine.
Independent media outlets tracking Russia's military deaths say 122 servicemen from the Irkutsk region have died in Ukraine since February.
The outlets have been able to confirm the names of 9,000 Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine.
Senior U.S. officials estimate that 100,000 Russian troops have died, gone missing or been seriously injured in the war.
President Vladimir Putin is expected to meet the mothers of soldiers fighting in Ukraine later Friday.
The run-up to the anticipated meeting has been plagued by accusations from the soldiers’ relatives that Putin will likely meet handpicked representatives and continue ignoring their concerns.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/25/russian-official-quits-after
-sons-bloody-videos-spark-school-shooting-fears-a79498
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Quote:The European Parliament has experienced a cyber attack that started not long after it declared Russia to be a state sponsor of terrorism.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!
/snicker
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The Parliament on Wednesday passed a resolution that details Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine, weighs international definitions of terrorism, and – over nine pages and 4250 words – concludes that Russia is a state sponsor of terrorism. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0405_EN.html
Not long after the resolution passed, this happened:
The availability of @Europarl_EN website is currently impacted from outside due to high levels of external network traffic. This traffic is related to a DDOS attack (Distributed Denial of Service) event. EP teams are working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible.
https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/24/european_parliament_russia_ddos/
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Quote:Pope Francis on Wednesday compared the war in Ukraine to the “terrible Holodomor genocide” of the 1930s, when the policies of the Soviet dictator, Joseph Stalin, caused a devastating famine in Ukraine.
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Hahaha!
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The pontiff’s comparison of Moscow’s attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine to Stalin’s decision to let millions in Ukraine starve represents one of his strongest condemnations yet of the Russian invasion.
“Let us pray for peace in the world, and for an end to all conflicts, with a special thought for the terrible suffering of the dear and martyred people of Ukraine,” Pope Francis said during his weekly general audience in St. Peter’s Square. “And let us think of war-torn Ukraine.”
The pontiff then asked that people join Ukraine this Saturday in commemorating “the terrible Holodomor genocide, the extermination by hunger of 1932-33 artificially caused by Stalin.”
“Let us pray for the victims of this genocide and let us pray for all Ukrainians, the children, the women and the elderly, the babies who are today suffering the martyrdom of aggression,” he said.
Ukrainian historians argue that Stalin, as head of the Soviet Union, used a famine brought on by the Soviets’ forced collectivization of farms to crush Ukrainian aspirations for independence. The famine began in Kazakhstan and southern Russia but was most devastating in Ukraine, where entire villages were left to starve.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2022/11/24/eu-parliament-russia-is-a-
state-sponsor-of-terrorism-pope-compares-war-with-holodomor-genocide/
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Wagner Group sends EU Parliament a message with ‘bloodied’ hammer
After Europe declared Russia a 'terrorist state' Vladimir Putin's crony Yevgeny Prigozhin responded to EU vote on Russia: 'I don't know what law the European Parliament is guided by, but according to our legislation, from today we declare the European Parliament dissolved,' he said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11466239/Wagner-chief-sends-E
uropean-parliament-bloodied-sledgehammer-i.html
Sick moment 'Putin's chef' Prigozhin sends bloodied hammer to European parliament. The head of Russian private army Wagner has trolled the West showing a bloodied sledgehammer he wants to present to the European Parliament. Vladimir Putin 's crony Yevgeny Prigozhin was responding to a vote to declare Russia a 'state sponsor of terrorism'. The sick stunt relates to an episode in which a Wagner fighter from Russia was bludgeoned to death with a sledgehammer after defecting to Ukraine, before being exchanged back allegedly at his request.
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Where is Paul Pelosi's poop hammer?
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Quote:You remind me of the Russians going to war rather than to work. By skipping work, the Russians make themselves poorer. By being incompetent warriors, the Russians get killed in huge numbers even when they win battles. There will be long lasting bad consequences for Russia because this war will be remembered as Russians murdering Ukrainians just because the Russians feel a need to kill. No amount of Russian denialism or false accusations against Ukraine/EU/Nato/UK/USA/Finland/Sweden or generally threatening to nuke the world will change the sad future Russia has created for itself, win or lose in Ukraine.
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Originally posted by second:
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Where is Paul Pelosi's poop hammer?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
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You remind me of the dogshit I once stepped in and had to clean off my shoe.
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Quote:Are these the same "senior officials" who claimed Russia fired missiles into Ukraine?
Originally posted by second:
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Senior U.S. officials estimate that 100,000 Russian troops have died, gone missing or been seriously injured in the war.
And, are they having "senior moments"?
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Quote:100,000 is NOT a large number for a war. Why do you disbelieve the number? 655,000 total deaths in the Iraq War (over 90% of them violent) as of June 2006 (per the 2006 Lancet study). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Are these the same "senior officials" who claimed Russia fired missiles into Ukraine?
Originally posted by second:
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Senior U.S. officials estimate that 100,000 Russian troops have died, gone missing or been seriously injured in the war.
And, are they having "senior moments"?
But on the other hand, 100,000 is a huge number for a "special military operation". Calling it a war rather than a "special military operation" will get a Russian imprisoned for 15 years. The country’s media regulator Roskomnadzor forbids describing the war as an “invasion” or “war”, insisting it be called a “special military operation”.
https://crd.org/2022/03/04/russian-law-gives-up-to-15-years-in-prison-
for-fake-information-about-the-war/
Refusing to fight in the "special military operation" is punishable with only 10 years of prison time. Doesn't seem fair that newspaper reporters get longer prison sentences.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-will-imprison-russians-refusing-fight-u
kraine-10-years-1746033
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Surrender or Die! Lukashenko threatens Ukraine with 'complete destruction' if Kyiv fails to capitulate
Belarusian President and Putin puppet Aleksandr Lukashenko has blamed Ukraine for the Russian destruction of its energy infrastructures and civilian cities, warning that "complete destruction" is inevitable if they do not surrender. The long-standing dictator suggested Ukraine were blocking peace talks by continuing to fight against an ailing Russian military in the south and east, and said he would "explain to the Ukrainian people" what had happened after they surrendered. His comments were made as millions of Ukrainian citizens were plunged into darkness, forced out of their homes and deprived of a water supply due to Russian missile strikes hundreds of miles behind the front lines.
Lukashenko said: "Everything is in Ukraine's hands. No, not because I want to shove this topic on Ukraine and Zelensky.
"Truly, everything is in Ukraine's hands, if they don't want the death of a huge number of people. It will be difficult, complex, challenging, but if they want to recover, this needs to stop because next will be the complete destruction of Ukraine.
"It is not what Putin was saying, long before the operation, that this will risk losing the state, the statehood of Ukraine. No, this will be the destruction of Ukraine. It needs to stop.
"Listen, the way we fought with fascist Germany, 30 million people died. Who remembers this today? In Belarus and in a bit of Russia, that is it.
"So, the wounds have healed. Now they are ready not just to talk, but to cooperate, to be friends. Same here. We'll manage it, we'll make amends.
"We, our generation, probably will be able to explain to the Ukrainian people what has happened.
"Thus, whichever way you go, there will be peace negotiations. Peace, peace and peace again."
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Thursday echoed Lukashenko's sentiment of blaming Ukraine for Russia's invasion and the civilian hardship suffered.
He said: "Ukraine's leadership has every opportunity to bring the situation back to normal, has every opportunity to resolve the situation in such a way as to meet the demands of the Russian side and, accordingly, end all possible suffering of the civilian population."
As the pair attempted to exculpate Putin of his barbarism, residents of Ukraine's bombed capital clutched empty bottles in search of water and crowded into cafés for power and warmth on Thursday The latest round of Russian missile strikes a day earlier had plunged the city and much of the country into the dark.
In scenes hard to believe in a sophisticated city of 3 million, some Kyiv residents resorted to collecting rainwater from drain pipes as repair teams laboured to reconnect supplies.
Friends and family members exchanged messages to find out who had electricity and water back. Some had one but not the other. The previous day's aerial onslaught on Ukraine's power grid left many with neither.
And as Kyiv and other cities picked themselves up, Kherson on Thursday came under its heaviest bombardment since Ukrainian forces recaptured the southern city two weeks ago.
The barrage of missiles killed four people outside a coffee shop and a woman was also killed next to her house, witnesses said, speaking to Associated Press reporters.
Western leaders denounced the bombing campaign with French President Emmanuel Macron calling the strikes "war crimes".
Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov acknowledged that it targeted Ukrainian energy facilities but he said they were linked to Ukraine's military command and control system and that the aim was to disrupt flows of Ukrainian troops, weapons and ammunition to front lines.
Authorities for Kyiv and the wider Kyiv region reported a total of 7 people killed and dozens of wounded.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lukashenko-threatens-ukraine-with
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If Putin really and truly said the following, it is big news because Russia only has around 1,000,000 active personnel and 2,000,000 reserve personnel:
Putin tells Army it needs 5 million troops to 'finish war with NATO in Ukraine'
Vladmir Putin is telling his military commanders Russia need to deploy five million troops in order to triumph in Ukraine. A document doing the rounds in military and political circles in Moscow entitled "Conclusions of the war with NATO in Ukraine" has highlighted the vast challenges now facing Russia.
There has not been such a war in the previous 80 years, and Russia needs its army to consist of nearly five million troops in order to win.
By Ciaran McGrath, Charles Harrison, Emma Crabtree
04:18, Sat, Nov 26, 2022 | UPDATED: 05:57, Sat, Nov 26, 2022
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1701341/ukraine-live-vladimir-put
in-update-airstrikes-war-sunak-wallace-kyiv-zelensky
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/11/24/7377855/
Even if Putin really did calculate he needs 5,000,000 troops to win, I don't believe he would allow that estimate to be in a publicized government document unless he will be switching terminology from "special military mobilization" to old-fashion war/invasion.
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Quote:That's as far as I need to read.
Originally posted by second:
If Putin really ...
When the M$M has to qualify their bullshit with "if", it's so ridiculous even they have to distance themselves from it.
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Quote:Will you believe an official Russian news source?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's as far as I need to read.
Originally posted by second:
If Putin really ...
When the M$M has to qualify their bullshit with "if", it's so ridiculous even they have to distance themselves from it.
Military operation in Ukraine, 25 Nov, 12:17
Russia used to live by someone else’s rules, going through purge now — Putin
The president said that "ultimately those who tried to control us - it’s thanks to their efforts, by and large, that we ended up in that situation, including in the zone of the special military operation"
NOVO-OGARYOVO, November 25. /TASS/. Russia used to live by someone else’s rules, an is going through a purge now, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday.
"What happened in the previous years was largely because we played, lived by someone else’s rules. The events of today are a path to some internal purging and reinvention," he said as he met with the mothers of the servicemen that participate in the special military operation.
He said in the 1990s and the 2000s "it seemed to us everything would be okay, but it wasn’t so."
"Moreover, we started to live and play by someone else’s rules and we took a delight in the fact that someone was trying to control us," Putin said.
He said "ultimately those who tried to control us - it’s thanks to their efforts, by and large, that we ended up in that situation, including in the zone of the special military operation."
"They pushed us to do this," the president said.
He said "nothing would have happened" if it hadn’t been for the coup in Ukraine in 2014 that toppled the government in that country.
https://tass.com/politics/1542117
There is an alternate explanation for why Putin invaded Ukraine, but not from TASS:
Invading Georgia gave Vladimir Putin a rush of confidence to invade Ukraine.
August 2008. The most-intense fighting between Russia and Georgia lasted only five days, before a ceasefire was agreed. However, some analysts say the agreement "favoured Moscow", and the West's weak response to the conflict emboldened Vladimir Putin to eventually invade Ukraine.
Russia suffered few negative consequences on the global stage as a result of its invasion. Western leaders were slow to respond to the crisis and wanted to resolve the conflict through talks, says Dr Rasmuss Nilsson, a lecturer in Russian and post-Soviet politics at University College London.
"The year before the war, before the fighting, Georgia asked over the summer, repeatedly, for help and did not get it," he says. "The West makes it clear it is not going to help militarily, but France, in particular, tries to push for a diplomatic solution." At the time, not all nations viewed Russia as an "aggressor", due to prior fighting and attacks between separatists and the Georgian military, Dr Nilsson says. "Russia sold it as a humanitarian intervention at the time," he said.
Much more at https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-27/wests-response-to-war-in-georgi
a-emboldened-putin/101677678
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a) It is internationally acknowledged that Georgia fired their missiles first
b) Medvedev was President then, not Putin
c) There is no comparison between Georgia's underpowered military, and Ukraine's dug-in, western-reinforced,
NATO-equivalent army. (Ukraine may not be in NATO, but NATO us in Ukraine.)
More bullshit from SECOND.
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Dear gentle reader:
Cleaning up SECOND's poop is a neverending chore.
From now on, just assume that SECOND is a compulsive liar.
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Quote:Russia has murdered 61,911,000 people from 1917 to 1987. You and Russians may think history will restart anew Monday morning when everything that happened before is canceled out by your amnesia and stupidity, but the rest of the world, including Ukrainians, don't forget. A helpful reminder:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) It is internationally acknowledged that Georgia fired their missiles first
b) Medvedev was President then, not Putin
c) There is no comparison between Georgia's underpowered military, and Ukraine's dug-in, western-reinforced,
NATO-equivalent army. (Ukraine may not be in NATO, but NATO us in Ukraine.)
More bullshit from SECOND.
R.J. Rummel, Lethal Politics - Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 (Published 1990)
While there are estimates of the number of people killed by Soviet authorities during particular episodes or campaigns, until now, no one has tried to calculate the complete human toll of Soviet genocides and mass murders since the revolution of 1917. Here, R. J. Rummel lists and analyzes hundreds of published estimates, presenting them in the historical context in which they occurred. His shocking conclusion is that, conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/
Preface
This book is part of a project on government genocide and mass killing in this century. The aim is to test the hypothesis that the citizens of democracies are the least likely to be murdered by their own governments; the citizens of totalitarian, especially Marxist systems, the most likely. The theory is that democratic systems provide a path to peace, and universalizing them would eliminate war and minimize global political violence. This was the conclusion of my Understanding Conflict and War,' and has been further confirmed by systematic, empirical tests since.
In the process of that research, I discovered that governments have murdered tens of millions of their own citizens, and that in some cases, the death toll may have actually exceeded that of World War II. To get some idea of the numbers involved, I surveyed the extent of genocide and mass killing by governments since 1900. The results were shocking: according to these first figures—independent of war and other kinds of conflict—governments probably have murdered 119,400,000 people—Marxist governments about 95,200,000 of them. By comparison, the battle-killed in all foreign and domestic wars in this century total 35,700,000.
These monstrous statistics sharply reoriented my research. For more than thirty years as a political scientist and peace researcher, I had focused my research on the causes and conditions of war, conflict, and peace. I had believed that war was the greatest killer and that nuclear war would be a global holocaust. Now I have found that the total killed by government in cold blood was almost four times that of war. It was as though a nuclear war had already occurred.
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The USA started out with slavery. Since you insist that nations repeat their history, even from centuries ago, the USA is obviously a slave-nation today.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Dear gentle reader:
Cleaning up SECOND's poop is a neverending chore.
From now on, just assume that SECOND is a compulsive liar.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Russia has murdered 61,911,000 people from 1917 to 1987. You and Russians may think history will restart anew Monday morning when everything that happened before is canceled out by your amnesia and stupidity, but the rest of the world, including Ukrainians, don't forget. A helpful reminder:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) It is internationally acknowledged that Georgia fired their missiles first
b) Medvedev was President then, not Putin
c) There is no comparison between Georgia's underpowered military, and Ukraine's dug-in, western-reinforced,
NATO-equivalent army. (Ukraine may not be in NATO, but NATO us in Ukraine.)
More bullshit from SECOND.
R.J. Rummel, Lethal Politics - Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 (Published 1990)
While there are estimates of the number of people killed by Soviet authorities during particular episodes or campaigns, until now, no one has tried to calculate the complete human toll of Soviet genocides and mass murders since the revolution of 1917. Here, R. J. Rummel lists and analyzes hundreds of published estimates, presenting them in the historical context in which they occurred. His shocking conclusion is that, conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/
Preface
This book is part of a project on government genocide and mass killing in this century. The aim is to test the hypothesis that the citizens of democracies are the least likely to be murdered by their own governments; the citizens of totalitarian, especially Marxist systems, the most likely. The theory is that democratic systems provide a path to peace, and universalizing them would eliminate war and minimize global political violence. This was the conclusion of my Understanding Conflict and War,' and has been further confirmed by systematic, empirical tests since.
In the process of that research, I discovered that governments have murdered tens of millions of their own citizens, and that in some cases, the death toll may have actually exceeded that of World War II. To get some idea of the numbers involved, I surveyed the extent of genocide and mass killing by governments since 1900. The results were shocking: according to these first figures—independent of war and other kinds of conflict—governments probably have murdered 119,400,000 people—Marxist governments about 95,200,000 of them. By comparison, the battle-killed in all foreign and domestic wars in this century total 35,700,000.
These monstrous statistics sharply reoriented my research. For more than thirty years as a political scientist and peace researcher, I had focused my research on the causes and conditions of war, conflict, and peace. I had believed that war was the greatest killer and that nuclear war would be a global holocaust. Now I have found that the total killed by government in cold blood was almost four times that of war. It was as though a nuclear war had already occurred.
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And yet you're still a Marxist. Hmmmmmmm....
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Quote:Unfortunately for amnesiac Russians and Signym, today's Ukrainians remember the millions of Ukrainians killed by Russians in the past and know that Russians in the present day will kill millions of Ukrainians if the war is lost.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The USA started out with slavery. Since you insist that nations repeat their history, even from centuries ago, the USA is obviously a slave-nation today.
Have you never been to Texas? In construction, illegal workers are treated worse than in slavery. That's Texas businesses owned by Republicans. The Democrats don't abuse their workers as the Republicans do. The Republican-controlled school boards are freakishly opposed to teaching about Texas' brutal past because of the parallels and similarities between that past and now. https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+slavery
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Quote:Have you ever heard of Tit-for-Tat? There is nothing Marxist about that idea from game theory. When people are cooperative, Tit-for-Tat is very kind to everyone. Everyone gets rich and happy. But when people are uncooperative, that is when Tit-for-Tat is revealed to be a very brutal method for dealing with uncooperative people because it is painful. Investopedia will explain it to you: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tit-for-tat.asp
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet you're still a Marxist. Hmmmmmmm....
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Russia and it's client state, North Korea, have made themselves poor because they are the most uncooperative countries. Because Russia and North Korea are what they are, they will stay poor, just as angry poor white trash in America stay poor because they are uncooperative. Trump can't fix what is wrong with his white trash voters. They have to fix themselves. The world can't fix what is wrong with Russia and North Korea. They have to change themselves into countries that don't automatically threaten, at least once per week, the rest of the world with nukes.
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Quote:That's what I call "projection".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The USA started out with slavery. Since you insist that nations repeat their history, even from centuries ago, the USA is obviously a slave-nation today.
SECIND: Unfortunately for amnesiac Russians and Signym, today's Ukrainians remember the millions of Ukrainians killed by Russians in the past and know that Russians in the present day will kill millions of Ukrainians if the war is lost.
Unfortunately for amnesiac SECOND, Ukraine was on the side of the NAZIS in WWII (just like Norway, Finland, and Denmark- another thing SECOND forgot). So: Nazis then, Nazis now?
Russia has been very restrained, protecting civilians and infrastructure as much as possible. SECOND mistakes restraint for weakness
Quote:
SECOND: Have you never been to Texas?
I've been to Texas.
Have you ever been to western New York state or southern California?
Quote:Yep! Cheap labor. That's must be why you like illegals so much. After all, YOU'RE a Texas businessman. They work hard, for cheap!
SECOND: In construction, illegal workers are treated worse than in slavery.
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