Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Ukraine remembers a famine under Stalin, and points to parallels with Putin
They call it the Holodomor, which means "death by hunger." Ukraine calls it a genocide, and nearly 20 other countries now agree — though not Russia.
At the National Museum of the Holodomor Genocide, one visitor, Roman Vashchenko, 44, spoke in somber tones of suffering old and new. First, he recalled stories his grandmother told him.
"She was one of 10 children. They were not allowed to leave their village. So they didn't know what was happening elsewhere," he said. "But they had a cow, and that's why they survived because they had milk."
Then he spoke of pain that's much more recent.
"In March, the Russians shot and killed my sister and her husband," he said softly. Their sons, ages 12 and 6, survived.
Drawing parallels between Stalin and Putin
One country that shares Ukraine's position is Poland, and its prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, visited Kyiv this weekend.
"If we allow Putin to continue, he will become the Stalin of the 21st century," Morawiecki said.
That famine, and today's war, speak to a country that's endured so much hardship.
It explains why the national anthem begins with the words, "Ukraine has not yet perished."
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/28/1139402378/ukraine-holodomor-famine-sta
lin-parallels-putin-russia-war
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unfortunately for amnesiac SECOND, Ukraine was on the side of the NAZIS in WWII (just like Norway, Finland, and Denmark- another thing SECOND forgot).
Err, Norway and Denmark were invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany. As for Finland and Ukraine - I can see that you're not interested in nuance, Sig, but for anyone else who's interested: Finland was invaded by the USSR just before WWII and formed an alliance with the Nazis in order to liberate its territory - but after that held back from helping the Nazis, e.g. during the Siege of Leningrad. Ukraine, as a part of the Soviet Union, was invaded and brutalised by the Nazis, and millions of Ukrainians fought in the Red Army against the Nazis. Ukrainian nationalist Bandera and his followers famously sided with the Nazis, hoping (foolishly) to gain an independent Ukrainian state. Some Ukrainians still revere Bandera today for his pro-Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance, and either overlook the cosying up to the Nazis, or don't care, or even actively approve.
Kremlin propagandists have sought to equate Ukrainians' desire for independence with Nazi ideology ever since, to the ridiculous extent that even under a Jewish President Ukraine is called a "Nazi state".
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's what I call "projection".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The USA started out with slavery. Since you insist that nations repeat their history, even from centuries ago, the USA is obviously a slave-nation today.
SECIND: Unfortunately for amnesiac Russians and Signym, today's Ukrainians remember the millions of Ukrainians killed by Russians in the past and know that Russians in the present day will kill millions of Ukrainians if the war is lost.
Unfortunately for amnesiac SECOND, Ukraine was on the side of the NAZIS in WWII (just like Norway, Finland, and Denmark- another thing SECOND forgot). So: Nazis then, Nazis now?
Russia has been very restrained, protecting civilians and infrastructure as much as possible. SECOND mistakes restraint for weaknessQuote:
SECOND: Have you never been to Texas?
I've been to Texas.
Have you ever been to western New York state or southern California?Quote:Yep! Cheap labor. That's must be why you like illegals so much. After all, YOU'RE a Texas businessman. They work hard, for cheap!
SECOND: In construction, illegal workers are treated worse than in slavery.
Always wrong always stupid Signym, like all Russians apparently, do not understand that if your retiring community is larger than your work force, all the social programs collapse. And that’s just the beginning.
The Russian population has long been far smaller than it needs and was still shrinking before the war. Now, with the current exodus their country is soon to be a realized nightmare.
Comrade, I told you so. Can_you_see_me_laughing?
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Originally posted by K2PO:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unfortunately for amnesiac SECOND, Ukraine was on the side of the NAZIS in WWII (just like Norway, Finland, and Denmark- another thing SECOND forgot).
Err, Norway and Denmark were invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany. As for Finland and Ukraine - I can see that you're not interested in nuance, Sig, but for anyone else who's interested: Finland was invaded by the USSR just before WWII and formed an alliance with the Nazis in order to liberate its territory - but after that held back from helping the Nazis, e.g. during the Siege of Leningrad. Ukraine, as a part of the Soviet Union, was invaded and brutalised by the Nazis, and millions of Ukrainians fought in the Red Army against the Nazis. Ukrainian nationalist Bandera and his followers famously sided with the Nazis, hoping (foolishly) to gain an independent Ukrainian state. Some Ukrainians still revere Bandera today for his pro-Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance, and either overlook the cosying up to the Nazis, or don't care, or even actively approve.
Kremlin propagandists have sought to equate Ukrainians' desire for independence with Nazi ideology ever since, to the ridiculous extent that even under a Jewish President Ukraine is called a "Nazi state".
Hello K2PO...
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Hi T
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So who's sockpuppet is K2PO?
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Quote:IIRC the original KPO was G aka CAPNCRUNCH aka... too many to remember.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So who's sockpuppet is K2PO?
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
IIRC the original KPO was G aka CAPNCRUNCH aka... too many to remember.
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Quote:so basically Denmark and Norway were like Vichy France, and Ukraine and Finland SIDED WITH THE NAZIS for nationalist reasons.
Originally posted by K2PO:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unfortunately for amnesiac SECOND, Ukraine was on the side of the NAZIS in WWII (just like Norway, Finland, and Denmark- another thing SECOND forgot).
Err, Norway and Denmark were invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany. As for Finland and Ukraine - I can see that you're not interested in nuance, Sig, but for anyone else who's interested: Finland was invaded by the USSR just before WWII and formed an alliance with the Nazis in order to liberate its territory - but after that held back from helping the Nazis, e.g. during the Siege of Leningrad. Ukraine, as a part of the Soviet Union, was invaded and brutalised by the Nazis, and millions of Ukrainians fought in the Red Army against the Nazis. Ukrainian nationalist Bandera and his followers famously sided with the Nazis, hoping (foolishly) to gain an independent Ukrainian state. Some Ukrainians still revere Bandera today for his pro-Ukrainian anti-Soviet resistance, and either overlook the cosying up to the Nazis, or don't care, or even actively approve.
Kremlin propagandists have sought to equate Ukrainians' desire for independence with Nazi ideology ever since, to the ridiculous extent that even under a Jewish President Ukraine is called a "Nazi state".
I do understand the mixed heritage of Europe. Poles, altho invaded by Germany, despised Jews as much as the Nazis. Maybe more so. They tolerated the Warsaw ghetto and many concentration camps. Sweden had its Nazi-lovers, which is reflected even recently in "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo". Hungarian Nazi-collaberators were so vicious the German Nazis thought they were an embarassment. Ukrainian nationalists were fully onboard with Nazi ideology, this was not just a marriage of convenience. Denmark, too,had a split population.
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Denmark, whose citizens stepped forward to help a great many of their nation’s Jewish population escape to Sweden and elsewhere, and in many cases actively resisted the Nazis, also had a lot of Nazi sympathizers and collaborators. Thousands of Danes fought in the Waffen-SS during the war
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/list-of-danish-nazis.html
There were Lithuanian Nazis, Finnish Nazis, etc There was also a resistance (more active in some places than others).
Hungarian Nazis (Arrow Cross Party)
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hungarian-nazis-arrow-cross-party
Ukrainian Nazis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germ
any
Swedish Nazis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_in_Sweden
So these presumed "liberal democracies" don't have such a pure history.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:IIRC the original KPO was G aka CAPNCRUNCH aka... too many to remember.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So who's sockpuppet is K2PO?
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Sounds about right.
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Quote:Trump Disappointed After Holocaust Denier Tells Him Holocaust Never Happened
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
so basically Denmark and Norway were like Vichy France, and Ukraine and Finland SIDED WITH THE NAZIS for nationalist reasons.
I do understand the mixed heritage of Europe. Poles, altho invaded by Germany, despised Jews as much as the Nazis. Maybe more so. They tolerated the Warsaw ghetto and many concentration camps. Sweden had its Nazi-lovers, which is reflected even recently in "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo". Hungarian Nazi-collaborators were so vicious the German Nazis thought they were an embarrassment. Ukrainian nationalists were fully onboard with Nazi ideology, this was not just a marriage of convenience. Denmark, too, had a split population.
There were Lithuanian Nazis, Finnish Nazis, etc There was also a resistance (more active in some places than others).
Hungarian Nazis (Arrow Cross Party)
Ukrainian Nazis
Swedish Nazis
So these presumed "liberal democracies" don't have such a pure history.
PALM BEACH, FL—Appearing crestfallen during a dinner with the white supremacist at his Mar-a-Lago estate, former President Donald Trump is said to have expressed deep sadness last week when he was told by Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes that the Holocaust never happened. “Wait, so all those stories I heard as a child about the systematic slaughter of 6 million Jews—those were just a fantasy?” said Trump, slumping his head and letting out a long sigh as he reportedly began to accept the belief that Adolf Hitler and his Nazis had not rounded up Jews and other marginalized people, shipped them to concentration camps, and exterminated as many as possible. “This is terrible news, what you’re telling me, absolutely terrible. Even Kristallnacht? I guess they just weren’t able to go through with it or something. That’s so sad.” According to sources, Fuentes comforted Trump by assuring him that if they worked together, the Holocaust did not have to remain a fantasy.
Pence says Trump was ‘wrong’ for dinner with Holocaust denier
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/28/politics/trump-dinner-holocaust-denier-
white-nationalist-pence-gop-condemn
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump Disappointed After Holocaust Denier Tells Him Holocaust Never Happened
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
so basically Denmark and Norway were like Vichy France, and Ukraine and Finland SIDED WITH THE NAZIS for nationalist reasons.
I do understand the mixed heritage of Europe. Poles, altho invaded by Germany, despised Jews as much as the Nazis. Maybe more so. They tolerated the Warsaw ghetto and many concentration camps. Sweden had its Nazi-lovers, which is reflected even recently in "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo". Hungarian Nazi-collaborators were so vicious the German Nazis thought they were an embarrassment. Ukrainian nationalists were fully onboard with Nazi ideology, this was not just a marriage of convenience. Denmark, too, had a split population.
There were Lithuanian Nazis, Finnish Nazis, etc There was also a resistance (more active in some places than others).
Hungarian Nazis (Arrow Cross Party)
Ukrainian Nazis
Swedish Nazis
So these presumed "liberal democracies" don't have such a pure history.
PALM BEACH, FL—Appearing crestfallen during a dinner with the white supremacist at his Mar-a-Lago estate, former President Donald Trump is said to have expressed deep sadness last week when he was told by Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes that the Holocaust never happened. “Wait, so all those stories I heard as a child about the systematic slaughter of 6 million Jews—those were just a fantasy?” said Trump, slumping his head and letting out a long sigh as he reportedly began to accept the belief that Adolf Hitler and his Nazis had not rounded up Jews and other marginalized people, shipped them to concentration camps, and exterminated as many as possible. “This is terrible news, what you’re telling me, absolutely terrible. Even Kristallnacht? I guess they just weren’t able to go through with it or something. That’s so sad.” According to sources, Fuentes comforted Trump by assuring him that if they worked together, the Holocaust did not have to remain a fantasy.
Pence says Trump was ‘wrong’ for dinner with Holocaust denier
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/28/politics/trump-dinner-holocaust-denier-
white-nationalist-pence-gop-condemn
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LOL... that's the saddest lie of a story CNN has put out to date.
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Quote:It is satire from the Onion. Trump is a walking and talking satire of an American President, but Trumptards don't get the joke. As an excuse for invading Ukraine, Putin called Ukraine's President a Nazi. Trump was a President who insinuated he, too, is a Nazi sympathizer. Nuking Mar-a-Lago would be logical for Putin in the way Russians use "logic" and "reason" and "evidence" to justify what they do to "Nazis" in countries Putin attacks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL... that's the saddest lie of a story CNN has put out to date.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Putin+threatens+to+nuke+the+USA
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A bipartisan group of U.S. senators has intensified pressure on the Biden administration to give Ukraine a top-tier U.S. drone capable of firing four Hellfire missiles or eight Stinger munitions. The 16 senators, led by Iowa Republican Sen. Joni Ernst and West Virginia Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin, called the Gray Eagle MQ-1C “the Ukrainian government’s highest-priority military equipment transfer request” of unmanned aerial systems and said it would have “the potential to drive the strategic course of the war in Ukraine’s favor.”
In their November 22 letter, the senators — including Republicans Lindsey Graham and Chuck Grassley as well as Democrats Richard Blumenthal and Mark Kelly — wrote, “Most importantly, armed [drones] could find and attack Russian warships in the Black Sea, breaking its coercive blockade and alleviate dual pressures on the Ukrainian economy and global food prices.” The senators asserted, “A Russian victory over Ukraine would significantly damage American security and prosperity.”
https://www.ernst.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2022-11-22_ernst_manchin_gr
ay_eagle_letter.pdf
In their letter, the senators noted that AGM-114 Hellfire missiles “have been reviewed and exported to over twenty-five U.S. partners.” Last week, a Pentagon spokesperson said that “nothing has been ruled out.” The senators asked the White House to respond to their letter no later than November 30.
https://theintercept.com/2022/11/28/ukraine-drone-weapon-senators/
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Ukraine has gained an advantage on the battlefield in part from deploying Western rocket systems that allow it to target Russian positions behind the front lines, partly neutralising Moscow's advantage in artillery firepower.
In the latest example of Western military aid to Kyiv, the Pentagon is considering a proposal by Boeing to supply Ukraine with cheap, small precision bombs that can fit onto rockets with a range of 150 km (94 miles), putting more Russian targets within range.
Boeing's proposed system, dubbed Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb, is one of about a half-dozen plans for getting new munitions into production for Ukraine and America's Eastern European allies, industry sources said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-won-t-stop-strikes-until-i
t-runs-out-of-missiles-zelenskiy-says/ar-AA14DA5n
“The GLSDB is the ultimate solution for a customer that is looking for an affordable, high precision and long range solution”, says Svein Daae, head of marketing of GLSDB at Saab.
The Small Diameter Bomb I (SDB I) is the warhead of the GLSDB. The SDB is a well-proven precision-guided glide bomb that has been in production since 2006. More than 20,000 SDB have been produced and 10,000 used in combat. It is well known for high accuracy and reliability. SDB has users all over the world, including the U.S. Air Force, the Norwegian Air Force, and thirteen other countries.
https://www.saab.com/newsroom/stories/2019/march/flexible-precise-and-
reliable--the-versatile-long-range-solution-that-has-it-all
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/100-mile-strike-wea
pon-weighed-ukraine-arms-makers-wrestle-with-demand-sources-2022-11-28/
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Even amid murderous Russian raids, western apathy is Kyiv’s deadliest foe
Putin’s missiles are raining down on Ukrainians, but the biggest danger they face is weakening support from the US and Europe
The war and its atrocities are being normalised and, increasingly, discounted. Where is the outrage now? Where the visceral fury? Nine months in, western public opinion is dulled, deadened and desensitised by a daily diet of remote, unceasing, almost routine carnage. The majority still wants Ukraine to prevail. But war fatigue teeters towards apathy.
In Italy and Germany, far-right voices complain they are “fed up” with the war’s costly knock-on effects. Protests against the stand-off with Moscow pockmark central Europe. Conflicted fellow travellers give Putin leave to carry on killing.
Kyiv’s mayor, Vitali Klitschko, says it’s obvious what Putin wants: “Ukraine without Ukrainians.” More than 7.8 million people have fled as refugees since February, the UN estimates. Millions more are internally displaced. Concern grows about a second exodus. “Right now, across the country, people are facing a grim choice: flee or freeze,” said Jan Egeland of the Norwegian Refugee Council.
In Ukraine, public attitudes are hardening. Pride in the Ukrainian nation and pro-western, pro-EU sentiment have never been stronger – including among ethnic minority Russians. Overall, 89% of respondents in one survey accused Russia of genocide.
The Ukrainian people are a formidable force. They have shown they can beat their enemies. But should they fear their friends? A weakening of US and European support, leaving Ukraine out in the cold, is perhaps the most dismaying hazard they face. Putin is counting on it. Might the peoples of the west, for the sake of a quiet life, really get “fed up” with the war to the point where they are ready to ignore or even tolerate mass murder, war crimes and the evisceration of a sovereign nation as the new normal?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/27/russian-raids-we
stern-apathy-kyiv-putin-ukrainians-us-europe
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Signym likes to combine facts with falsehoods and quote sources that do the same. They twist information in the hopes it misleads those who read it, getting them to believe an assertion that is untrue. Fortunately we know signym, and we know she does that.
Happily, some of us here quote facts as best we can, and the truth is what we argue. Every time sig and some others here post, they document what exposes them to be trolls and liars. They influence nothing but they persist. It’s a sickness.
It is surly a sickness they suffer. Why else would they support Russia when it creates moment by moment, atrocity after atrocity? A war crime after a war crime.
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Quote:Putin's people rant and rage:
Originally posted by THG:
It’s a sickness.
A war crime after a war crime.
T
Putin's top propagandists openly talk of Russia losing to Ukraine and being tried in Hague
Russian TV hosts Margarita Simonyan and Vladimir Solovyov openly speculated on the aftermath of a defeat of Russia in Ukraine for Vladimir Putin's inner circle. Simonyan's chilling monologue referenced the war crimes trials at the Hague for the Russian leadership. At the same time, Solovyov boasted that the world would be "turned to ash" hinting at a nuclear strike before the Kremlin would concede defeat.
Simonyan told Russia1: "They are getting ready to take our Crimea. We're doing the only thing we can do in this situation, we are bombing.
"We are bombing every day, we are bombing infrastructure.
"God knows we didn't want this, no one wanted this you and I didn't want this. I know the leadership didn't want this either.
"There again, we are kind, polite and at times meek. We are such softies, so kind, trusting, and meek, but should we be?
"Right now, when we see that the infrastructure is being destroyed every day. The infrastructure that helps Ukraine to fight, to kill our people, on the territories that are now ours.
"I am amazed by our people, and I, unfortunately, know many of them, including those in very high circles, who are afraid of this and are afraid to call things as they are, because of what people over there may think."
Simonyan continued: "We could spit on what they'll think over there."
"People who are afraid of the Hague, listen you should be afraid to lose, to be humiliated and be afraid to betray your people."
"Let me tell you that if we manage to lose, the Hague, whether real or hypothetical, will even come for a street cleaner who sweeps the cobblestone behind the Kremlin."
"Whether one more Kyiv district is without electricity won't change the magnitude of the catastrophe that will befall our country if we manage to do this."
"It's unimaginable."
"If you're afraid of the Hague, stay out of the forest."
Solovyov added "There won't be any Hague if this happens."
Simonyan agreed "There won't be anything at all."
Solovyov concluded: "The whole world will be turned to ashes."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/putin-s-top-propagandists-openly-
talk-of-russia-losing-to-ukraine-and-being-tried-in-hague/ar-AA14G2qw
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Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND:
Trump
TRUMP
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump
trumpetytrump
Trump?
Trump!
turmprumptmputrtptumprumptrtrumptprum...
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Originally posted by THG:
Signym likes to combine facts with falsehoods and quote sources that do the same.
Wikipedia?
Jewish center?
The Pentagon?
Reuters?
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Quote:Signym, did you misunderstand that Putin's people are angry about Russians being accused of war crimes when they are only killing civilians for the glory of Russia?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump
TRUMP
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump
trumpetytrump
Trump?
Trump!
turmprumptmputrtptumprumptrtrumptprum...
"Right now, when we see that the infrastructure is being destroyed every day. The infrastructure that helps Ukraine to fight, to kill our people, on the territories that are now ours.
"I am amazed by our people, and I, unfortunately, know many of them, including those in very high circles, who are afraid of this and are afraid to call things as they are, because of what people over there may think."
Simonyan continued: "We could spit on what they'll think over there."
"People who are afraid of the Hague, listen you should be afraid to lose, to be humiliated and be afraid to betray your people."
"Let me tell you that if we manage to lose, the Hague, whether real or hypothetical, will even come for a street cleaner who sweeps the cobblestone behind the Kremlin."
"Whether one more Kyiv district is without electricity won't change the magnitude of the catastrophe that will befall our country if we manage to do this."
"It's unimaginable."
"If you're afraid of the Hague, stay out of the forest."
Solovyov added "There won't be any Hague if this happens."
Simonyan agreed "There won't be anything at all."
Solovyov concluded: "The whole world will be turned to ashes." Signym, just another threat from Russians to nuke the world.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/putin-s-top-propagandists-openly-
talk-of-russia-losing-to-ukraine-and-being-tried-in-hague/ar-AA14G2qw
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Speaking of Poland...
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There Is Growing Annoyance With The Polish Position": EU Fails To Agree On Russian Oil Price Cap As Full Ban Looms
Monday, Nov 28, 2022 - 11:45 PM
In its relentless pursuit of virtue-signaling hills that it is willing to die on within minutes, several months ago the EU had a brilliant idea: let's implement a toothless oil price cap on Russian oil exports, one which actually has zero impact on deeply discounted Russian oil and thus doesn't lead to any more European energy shocks, but because of the optics and the much "lower" permitted transaction price, it will make for great headlines and show the world just how powerful the EU is.
Well, the plan almost worked... until Poland the Baltics forgot to read the fine print, thought that Europe actually does mean business, and blew up the deal.
Recall on Friday, negotiations on the Russian oil price cap were suspended - despite a willingness by most European nations to just cross the checkmark and move on - as Poland and the Baltic states objected to a proposed ceiling of $65.
There was some hope that this opposition was just for show, and that come Monday the Poles would relent after some "closed door" negotiations, Europe would slap a $65 price cap, Russia would continue to sell its oil to China and India, and - quietly - to Europe, and gradually renormalize a fractured oil market where India and China pay a 25% discount for oil while the rest of the world has to pay a premium as an offset.
However, it was not meant to be, and on Monday European Union governments again failed to agree on a price cap on Russian seaborne crude oil, as Poland again insisted that the cap had to be set lower than proposed by the G7 to cut Moscow's ability to finance its invasion of Ukraine, diplomats told Reuters.
"There is no deal. The legal texts have now been agreed, but Poland still can't agree to the price," one diplomat said. No new date for talks has been set yet, diplomats said, even though a far worse outcome may await Europe in just one week: as a reminder, the price cap mechanism is to enter into force on Dec. 5. And if there is no agreement on the G7 price cap idea by next Monday, the EU would implement harsher measures agreed at the end of May - a ban on all Russian crude oil imports from Dec. 5 and on petroleum products from Feb. 5, Polish diplomats said.
That would be a truly catastrophic scenario, and one which could promptly send the price of oil into the stratosphere as JPMorgan explained not too long ago.
To be sure, it's not too late for Poland to fall in line: Hungary and two other landlocked central European states secured exemptions from that ban for the pipeline imports they rely on. Meanwhile, even the G-7 group of nations has proposed a softer version of the EU ban to keep oil supply to the global economy steady, because Russia supplies 10% of the world's oil (see, it was all theater, everything - from day one - and politicians knew it as soon as they did the math).
It proposed that the EU and other global customers keep buying Russian crude, but only if its price is at or below a G7 agreed level. That would cut the Kremlin's revenues. The G7 has proposed a cap of $65-70 per barrel, but Poland and some others argue this will not hurt Moscow because Russian crude is already trading below that range at $63.50, and after today's oil price rollercoaster, the "Russian" price briefly dipped below $60.
With Russian production costs estimated at around $20, Moscow has a very large profit from its oil exports. Poland, Lithuania and Estonia have been pushing for a price cap of $30 per barrel.
And yet, despite consensus that Polish opposition would be overturned, the country's resolve has only hardened: "The Poles are completely uncompromising on the price, without suggesting an acceptable alternative," the EU diplomat said. "Clearly there is growing annoyance with the Polish position."
Which is hilarious beca
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, did you misunderstand that Putin's people are angry about Russians being accused of war crimes when they are only killing civilians for the glory of Russia?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump
TRUMP
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump
trumpetytrump
Trump?
Trump!
turmprumptmputrtptumprumptrtrumptprum...
I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
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Quote:I think you misunderstand what going on with Poland. Poland's price cap is $30 per barrel. The G7 has proposed a cap of $65-70 per barrel. If there was no agreement on the G7 price cap idea by next Monday, the EU would implement harsher measures agreed at the end of May.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Speaking of Poland...
Now do you understand that Poland is NOT on Russia's side?
The G7 has proposed a cap of $65-70 per barrel, but Poland and some others argue this will not hurt Moscow because Russian crude is already trading below that range at $63.50 .
With Russian production costs estimated at around $20, Moscow has a very large profit from its oil exports. Poland, Lithuania and Estonia have been pushing for a price cap of $30 per barrel.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/eu-fails-agree-russian-oil
-price-cap-monday-diplomats-2022-11-28/
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Quote:For both Russians and Trumptards, ignoring what they wish wasn't true is a very poor strategy, but frequently used. Too late they wonder why things go wrong for them. This strategy for handling disagreeable news is not helping them cope.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
Second posting about how nothing has ever gone wrong for him. His life is perfect because he didn't vote for Trump, you see.
*yawn*
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, did you misunderstand that Putin's people are angry about Russians being accused of war crimes when they are only killing civilians for the glory of Russia?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trump
TRUMP
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump
trumpetytrump
Trump?
Trump!
turmprumptmputrtptumprumptrtrumptprum...
I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
Belarus dictator 'fears for his life after minister murdered with Russian poison'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/belarus-dictator-fears-for-his-li
fe-after-minister-murdered-with-russian-poison/ar-AA14FtjV?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=24a78f5a6afa458ea348e9bd8d39d124
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I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
SECIND: For both Russians and Trumptards, ignoring what they wish wasn't true is a very poor strategy,
I'm not ignoring unpleasant news, SECOND. I'm ignoring YOU, bc you're a troll.
Maybe... MAYBE ... what you post about yourself is true IDK. But I can't recall a single time you posted the truth about anything else. Not even accidentally.
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Quote:When the war finally comes to a close, Russia will say it won the war because hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of Ukrainians died and billions of dollars in property damage were done to Ukraine. In a similar situation, the USA lost the Vietnam War after killing millions of Vietnamese and doing billions in property damage to Vietnam. The difference will be Russia won't admit it lost, while the far more successful USA can admit losing. Not being able to admit failure, and correcting itself, is why Russia has an economy smaller than Canada's.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
SECIND: For both Russians and Trumptards, ignoring what they wish wasn't true is a very poor strategy,
I'm not ignoring unpleasant news, SECOND. I'm ignoring YOU, bc you're a troll.
Maybe... MAYBE ... what you post about yourself is true IDK. But I can't recall a single time you posted the truth about anything else. Not even accidentally.
Country comparison Canada Russia
https://www.worlddata.info/country-comparison.php?country1=CAN&cou
ntry2=RUS
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Quote:6ix, you are not a picture of mental well-being.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:For both Russians and Trumptards, ignoring what they wish wasn't true is a very poor strategy, but frequently used. Too late they wonder why things go wrong for them. This strategy for handling disagreeable news is not helping them cope.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
Second posting about how nothing has ever gone wrong for him. His life is perfect because he didn't vote for Trump, you see.
6IXSTRINGJACK wrote on Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:39 PM
Trust me. I know the feeling of rushing. If I didn't waste so much time, then everything wouldn't be a rush when I'm working on it. Add to that me being a perfectionist, and it's like my psyche is tearing itself in half sometimes.
But now that I finally feel like I'm starting to get ahead of it, I'm able to have downtime without feeling so guilty about it these days. Boy... it will be nice to finally have the house done and only have to worry about regular maintenance stuff. I'm still a few years away from that, but I'm hoping I can really start to find the balance at that point. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&p=4
6ix, why are you wasting time disassembling old microwaves for the magnets, transformers, and capacitors? Find a better hobby.
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I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
SECOND: For both Russians and Trumptards, ignoring what they wish wasn't true is a very poor strategy, but frequently used. Too late they wonder why things go wrong for them. This strategy for handling disagreeable news is not helping them cope.
SIX: Second posting about how nothing has ever gone wrong for him. His life is perfect because he didn't vote for Trump, you see
SECOND: 6ix, you are not a picture of mental well-being.
This from Mr. Instability himself?
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I got as far as your mention of Trump.
After that, I tossed your posts into the mental trash, where they belong.
SECOND: For both Russians and Trumptards, ignoring what they wish wasn't true is a very poor strategy.
SIGNY: I'm not ignoring unpleasant news, SECOND. I'm ignoring YOU, bc you're a troll.
Maybe... MAYBE ... what you post about yourself is true IDK. But I can't recall a single time you posted the truth about anything else. Not even accidentally.
SECOND: When the war finally comes to a close, Russia will say it won the war
Oh, so now your crap has devolved from lying, libel, mind- reading, and projection to... prognostication?
/snicker
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Ukraine is set to receive more than a dozen cutting-edge robotic vehicles that can be used to evacuate battlefield casualties and clear routes of explosive devices, among other tasks, Estonian military contractor Milrem Robotics announced Tuesday. A Russian think tank previously offered a bounty for the capture of one of these vehicles.
The unmanned vehicles, known as Tracked Hybrid Modular Infantry Systems or simply "THeMIS," are being paid for by the German government as part of a deal between Milrem Robotics and German defense company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann. The companies have agreed to deliver 14 of them by the end of the year.
"Casualty evacuation and route clearance are two labour-intensive activities that require the engagement of several people who remain in constant threat of enemy fire," Jüri Pajuste, director of research and development at Milrem Robotics, said in a statement. "Automating these tasks with unmanned vehicles alleviates that danger and allows more soldiers to stay in a safe area or be tasked for more important activities."
An earlier delivery of THeMIS vehicles to Ukraine prompted a Russian think tank tied to the Kremlin's defense establishment to issue a $16,000 bounty — more than a typical Russian soldier receives in a year — for the capture of one "by any means," with the stated intent of studying it and manufacturing similar equipment in Russia itself.
"The conflict in Ukraine has demonstrated that modern warfare is unthinkable without the widespread use of unmanned vehicles," Ruslan Pukhov, the director of Moscow's Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said in a September statement to Insider, adding that "we are lagging behind."
At the time, a spokesperson for Milrem Robotics told Insider: "We take the bounty as a compliment."
The shipment to Ukraine is said to be of the unarmed variant of the THeMIS system, which can carry a payload of up to 1,650 pounds, enabling it to move multiple casualties at once. But according to the manufacturer, the vehicle can be "rapidly configured from having a transport function to being weaponized."
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-getting-more-themis-robots-165638784.ht
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Quote:I predict Russia will sue, calling this theft: The European Commission announced plans to manage frozen Russian assets through a new centralized structure, which it could use to compensate Ukraine. Von der Leyen said the E.U. has blocked 300 billion euros ($311 billion) of Russian Central Bank reserves since the beginning of the invasion, along with 19 billion euros ($19.7 billion) belonging to Russian oligarchs.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, so now your crap has devolved from lying, libel, mind- reading, and projection to... prognostication?
/snicker
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-live-briefing-e-u-moves-t
o-set-up-russia-war-crimes-tribunal-nato-allies-unveil-energy-support/ar-AA14IDRO
I also predict that after years of legal rigamarole, Russia will pay for the damage it did to Ukraine.
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Imagine, for a moment, 40 million people waking up every morning and thinking, “What can I do today to save lives and save my country?”
That is happening in Ukraine every single day.
Let’s be clear about what’s on the other side: a regime whose brutality is underestimated, even now. Russia invaded a sovereign country by bombing maternity wards and bread lines. They have raped and tortured children, according to United Nations testimony.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/23/europe/russia-ukraine-zaporizhzhia-
maternity-hospital-strike-intl/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/16/ukraine-bread-line-bom
bed-chernihiv-sot-nr-vpx.cnn
https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/09/update-chair-independent-i
nternational-commission-inquiry-ukraine-51st-session
Preventing those atrocities also has implications beyond Ukraine. Pushing Russia back now will deter it from invading other former Soviet states further down the line. Russia’s flagging fortunes on the battlefield are also giving China a reason to pause amid renewed speculation of invasion of Taiwan.
But the truth is the stakes are even higher. Every day in Ukraine, I am surrounded by modern day versions of the patriots who won American independence. Though they are different struggles, we fought for freedom and self-determination, just like Ukrainians today. They face one of the largest and most extensively resourced armies in the world, just like we did. The righteousness of their cause matches our own from almost 250 years ago.
For Americans, backing Ukraine is a moral and strategic imperative rooted in our values. Republicans and Democrats have always come together to defend those values because we’ve always agreed that allowing corrupt autocracies to thrive breeds chaos and instability that ultimately hurts us at home. That unity is now faltering.
As a new Congress takes office in January, I implore my fellow Americans – and policymakers who decide how we use our resources to advance our values – to recognize that support for Ukraine is support for people just like us, who want the same things we do.
Just a few days ago, a young man in Kherson told me that his country “can survive anything … because we are free.”
The fight for his city and his country is not over, but it’s hard to think of a sentiment that would resonate with Americans more than that.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/29/opinions/kherson-ukraine-putin-heroism-
darkness-khan/index.html
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Biden and virtually the entirety of established political power across the U.S. government is unified in the project of flooding Ukraine with weapons and other military support. Milley, it must be noted, has been a major proponent of heavily arming Ukraine and has advocated continuing to do so indefinitely. Biden currently has a request before Congress for nearly $40 billion in new aid to Ukraine, and the military component of his proposal would, with the swipe of a pen, more than double the entire U.S. expenditure since the invasion began in February.
There is legislation pending in Congress that indicates that the U.S. government believes the Ukraine war may continue for years. On October 11, the Senate Armed Services Committee submitted its amended draft of the National Defense Authorization Act for 2023. Nestled within the draft is a provision that would establish an “emergency” multiyear plan to award massive defense contracts to Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, BAE Systems, and other war corporations to produce weapons for Ukraine . . .
An amendment, spearheaded by New Hampshire Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen and co-sponsored by Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn, would allow the Pentagon to award noncompetitive no-bid contracts to arms manufacturers under the plan.
Among the weapons that would be preauthorized for procurement by the Pentagon, according to the legislation, are: 100,000 Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems, 30,000 Hellfire missiles, 36,000 Joint Air-to-Ground missiles, and 700 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems — all manufactured by Lockheed Martin. The list also includes a staggering stream of other missiles, rockets, and ammunition.
https://theintercept.com/2022/11/30/ukraine-war-weapons-ndaa/
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Vladimir Putin’s top diplomat claimed the US posed an existential threat to Russia through its support for Ukraine.
Sergei Lavrov, the Kremlin’s foreign minister who has a reputation for wild statements, used a press conference on Thursday to condemn Washington and Nato, while defending Russia’s bombing of Ukraine’s civil infrastructure.
He said the Kremlin’s assault on the Ukrainian power grid was aimed at cutting off the country’s supply of western arms, countering the view held by Kyiv and allies that knocking out heat and electricity for ordinary citizens was an attempt to break the national spirit.
His remarks came hours after Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky said around 6 million Ukrainians were facing winter without power due to a two-month long series of strikes on power plant, substations and transmission lines, among other key energy infrastructure.
On Wednesday night, the governor of Kherson said the region’s recently liberated capital city had lost power after heavy shelling from Russian forces.
The West has been feeding Ukraine weapons throughout the war, lately turning towards the supply of air defence systems to counter the Russian strikes which have rained on cities all over the country, far from the front lines of the war in the south and east.
Mr Lavrov claimed the arms shipments along with training of Ukrainian soldiers on western soil amounted to direct participation in the conflict by Nato, in particular the US.
He went on to charge that Kyiv was taking military orders from “Western masters”, a claim popular among Russian officials during the ten months since Mr Putin ordered the invasion.
Mr Lavrov said: “We attack energy facilities that make it possible for west to pump weapons into Ukraine. So don’t say that the US and Nato are not participants in this war – you are directly participating. Including not only the supply of weapons, but also the training of personnel – you train the Ukrainian military on your territory.” He added: “The vast majority of the targets struck by the Ukrainian Nazi battalion are determined by the Western masters of that regime.”
Though the minister devoted most of the conference to criticising the west, he insisted that Russia was open to the possibility of talks, both with Ukraine and the United States.He said Russia had never walked away from contacts with the US but was yet to hear any “substantive ideas” from Washington, continuing Russia’s attempts to paint itself as being denied a chance at peace, despite being behind the invasion of Ukraine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221201191531/https://www.independent.co.
uk/news/world/europe/russia-lavrov-us-ukraine-nato-b2236886.html
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Imagine, for a moment, 40 million people waking up every morning and thinking, “What can I do today to save lives and save my country?”
That is happening in Ukraine every single day.
blah blah blah
a) Given the emigration of Ukrainians into other nations, especially draft-age men, and people seeking a better life, I doubt that "Ukraine" has 40 million within its former borders. 30 million. Maybe.
b) Somewhere in the realm of 1/3 of the remainder consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian at this point, given how Kiev has abused them, and
c) of THAT remainder, if Ukraine follows the normal age distribution of EU nations, roughly 1/4 to 1/5 are younger than 10 and probably don't have much political thought. And some portion of the adult population just wants to get through the day with water and food and heat.
What you're left with is about 25 million at best.
It discredits your posts when you begin with nonsense, SECOND. And I don't care if you weren't the one to first publicize it, bc you chose to spread it.
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Quote:Russia could have followed the behavior of Finland and Canada into great wealth and happiness, but Russia chooses to be obnoxious and belligerent, same as you, Signym. Eventually, the "special military operation" mistake will be obvious to even Russians when they fall further behind, just as North Korea, modeling Russia's obnoxious and belligerent behavior, keeps falling further behind South Korea.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) Given the emigration of Ukrainians into other nations, especially draft-age men, and people seeking a better life, I doubt that "Ukraine" has 40 million within its former borders. 30 million. Maybe.
b) Somewhere in the realm of 1/3 of the remainder consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian at this point, given how Kiev has abused them, and
c) of THAT remainder, if Ukraine follows the normal age distribution of EU nations, roughly 1/4 to 1/5 are younger than 10 and probably don't have much political thought. And some portion of the adult population just wants to get through the day with water and food and heat.
What you're left with is about 25 million at best.
It discredits your posts when you begin with nonsense, SECOND. And I don't care if you weren't the one to first publicize it, bc you chose to spread it.
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Russia was ravaged by the Nazis from 1941-1945, and pillaged by the west from 1990-2000.
PS: Gentle reader, don't expect me to sccop the poop after every single one of SECOND's posts. If I leave a post - or even many posts- unchallenged it's just bc I don't want to waste too much time on trolls.
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Originally posted by second:
Imagine, for a moment, 40 million people waking up every morning and thinking, “What can I do today to save lives and save my country?”
That is happening in Ukraine every single day.
blah blah blah
a) Given the emigration of Ukrainians into other nations, especially draft-age men, and people seeking a better life, I doubt that "Ukraine" has 40 million within its former borders. 30 million. Maybe.
b) Somewhere in the realm of 1/3 of the remainder consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian at this point, given how Kiev has abused them, and
c) of THAT remainder, if Ukraine follows the normal age distribution of EU nations, roughly 1/4 to 1/5 are younger than 10 and probably don't have much political thought. And some portion of the adult population just wants to get through the day with water and food and heat.
What you're left with is about 25 million at best.
It discredits your posts when you begin with nonsense, SECOND. And I don't care if you weren't the one to first publicize it, bc you chose to spread it.
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RUSSIAN ECONOMY DECLINE - REAL LIFE SIGNS IN DECEMBER 2022
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Quote:You forgot the two different wars Russia fought with Finland. Stalin didn't learn his lesson from the first war, but Hitler was watching. THAT is THE reason Hitler invaded Russia. If Finland could beat the Russians, so could the Nazis. Stalin could thank the UK and USA for distracting Hitler on the Western Front rather than Germany crushing Russia on a single front.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia was ravaged by the Nazis from 1941-1945, and pillaged by the west from 1990-2000.
PS: Gentle reader, don't expect me to sccop the poop after every single one of SECOND's posts. If I leave a post - or even many posts- unchallenged it's just bc I don't want to waste too much time on trolls.
1) Winter War
30 November 1939 – 13 March 1940
321,000–381,000 total Russian casualties
70,000 total Finnish casualties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
2) Continuation War
890,000–944,000 total Russian casualties
225,000 total Finnish casualties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
The Chinese see how poorly Russia fights Ukraine. China might take a chunk out of Siberia to enlarge itself -- a bit of "Lebensraum" the Nazis would call it.
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Andrey Kortunov, one of Russia’s foremost political scientists, paints a bleak picture of the Ukraine war.
Kortunov says the real issue Russia is grappling with is: does it want long-term isolation from the West, or compromise and reintegration? Everything else falls into place depending on the outcome of that fateful decision.
The war in Ukraine is not going as planned for Russia, and Ukraine currently has the upper hand on the ground. Under these circumstances, there is no way Russia will seek to end the fighting.
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I listened to the video and I'm left wondering... where, exactly is Russia in trouble??
Video says the frontline is static. Actions are tactical, both sides are waiting for frozen ground. Russian troops are taking territory north and south of Bakhmut.
Kiev, he says, is going to attack south to the Black Sea ... but that is future tense.
Meanwhile, Russia isn't blathering about how they're going to take all of Ukraine, they're promising an offensive at the pace of a slow grind.
So ... ?
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And my thumb is bigger than that dude's biceps.
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The pretense is over. NATO is entering WWIII.
Ursula van der Crazy says: 100,000 Kiev soldiers KIA
Massive missile strike on Ukraine
Biden/Macron direct Kiev meat puppet
Putin scolds Sholz
Russia Now Says US & NATO "Directly Participating" In Ukraine War
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-now-says-us-nato-directl
y-participating-ukraine-war
Putin Tells Scholz More Ukraine Energy Strikes 'Inevitable' Due To West Pumping In Weapons
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-tells-scholz-more-ukraine
-energy-strikes-inevitable-due-west-pumping-weapons
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The website has links to the 30 different publications .. many of them western establishment... that it Cites in this article. If you want to know where the facts, figures, and assessments come from, please go to the original article, linked at the bottom
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RUSSIA IS WINNING THE BIG WAR TOO BY HELMHOLTZ SMITH
2 December 2022 by HELMHOLTZ SMITH 25 Comments
The Western media treats the war in Ukraine in isolation but the truth is that it is just one battlefield in a world war. Russia knows it – “The US wants to weaken and destroy Russia, and is using Ukraine as a ‘battering ram‘”; America too – “Russia’s invasion tears at the rules-based international order that keeps us all secure” (translation from Newspeak – “threatens our predominance”.) The US-centric system is fighting across the world to maintain its superiority.
And how is that wider war going? For the US and its allies – the self-anointed “International Community” – the answer is not very well. Their assumption that sanctions would collapse the Russian economy and overthrow Putin has backfired – Worst fall in UK living standards, European power prices shatter records, Inflation boosts U.S. household spending. Plenty more headlines like those. Even that citadel of Russophobia The Economist has to admit “As Europe falls into recession, Russia climbs out“.
Did they think, when they sanctioned the world’s largest energy exporter and two of the principal potash exporters, that fuel and food prices would go down?
Allied unity is shaky. Ankara has effectively blamed the USA for the recent terror attacks and is openly attacking US allies in Syria. Poland’s President admits “I don’t need a war with Russia“. Zelinsky’s insistence that a Russian missile hit Poland when everyone knows it didn’t, is “destroying [our] confidence in them“. Europeans start to understand that Washington played them for fools. How many European manufacturers are moving to the USA? Who blew up Nordstream? A mystery too secret to answer (but it wasn’t Russia). Western economies will not get better, winter is “weaponized”, inflation, unemployment and dissatisfaction will grow.
A year after he invaded the USSR, Hitler invited himself to Marshal Mannerheim’s birthday party. The Finns bugged the railroad car and caught Hitler admitting that German weapons were only fit for “good weather”. We see the same thing in Ukraine – NATO’s weaponry is delicate; previous “wonder weapons” like Javelin are disappointing; air defense doesn’t stop missiles. In fact the only “wonder weapon” with much effect is the HIMARS but its warheads are small and the latest “deliveries” haven’t even been built.
NATO weapons production is also “good weather”. A heavy artillery day in Afghanistan was 300 rounds and for that US production of roughly 80,000 155mm rounds a year was plenty. But Ukraine is reportedly firing 20 times as many per day and Russia seven times that. One of the few prescient pieces published by the establishment press was “The Return of Industrial Warfare” in June. That pointed out what is now apparent to all – NATO does not have the production to keep up with demand. Brian Berletic has been keeping track of the diminishing quantity and quality of weaponry sent from America. This can be best exemplified by the 60 year old HAWK air defence system just sent. 50 year old Gepards. “Upgraded” (20 years ago) T-55 tanks. No more 155mm guns, now 105mm guns. Even the tame media is worried – “Ukraine’s Appetite for Weapons Is Straining Western Stockpiles“, “U.S. and NATO Scramble to Arm Ukraine and Refill Their Own Arsenals.” There are plans to increase production but that’s years away.
One of Moscow’s aims is to demilitarize Ukraine; never in its wildest dreams could it have foreseen that it would demilitarize NATO too. Boasting “How can Russia possibly hope to win an arms race when the combined GDP of the West is $40 trillion…?” misses the point – guns fire shells, not engraved paper.
And more. The West loves to call itself the “international community” but even the establishment has
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Military briefing: Ukraine war exposes ‘hard reality’ of west’s weapons capacity
Nations have been slow to sign contracts companies need to boost supply to Kyiv
John Paul Rathbone and Sylvia Pfeifer in London and Steff Chávez in Chicago DECEMBER 1 2022
Nearly 10 months into Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the allies that have backed Kyiv’s war effort are increasingly concerned by the struggle to increase ammunition production as the conflict chews through their stockpiles.
At stake is not only the west’s ability to continue supplying Ukraine with the weapons it needs but also allies’ capacity to show adversaries such as China that they have an industrial base that can produce sufficient weaponry to mount a credible defence against possible attack.
“Ukraine has focused us . . . on what really matters,” William LaPlante, the Pentagon’s chief weapons buyer, told a recent conference at George Mason University. “What matters is production. Production really matters.”
After sending more than $40bn of military support to Ukraine, mostly from existing stocks, Nato members’ defence ministries are discovering that dormant weapons production lines cannot be switched on overnight. Increasing capacity requires investment which, in turn, depends on securing long-term production contracts.
The US has sent about a third of its stock of Javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine and a third of its stockpile of anti-aircraft Stinger missiles. But it has little prospect of being able to replace these quickly. “There’s no question that . . . [supplying Ukraine] has put pressure on our defence industrial base,” Colin Kahl, US under-secretary of defence for policy, said last month.
The UK has turned to a third party, which it has declined to identify, to restock its depleted stores of NLAW anti-tank missiles. “There are some really hard realities that we have been forced to learn,” James Heappey, armed forces minister, said in October.
Weapons stocks in many European countries are even skimpier. When France sent six Caesar self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine in October, it could only do so by diverting a Danish order for the high-tech artillery.
There are two main reasons western nations are struggling to source fresh military supplies, said defence officials and corporate executives.
The first is structural. Since the end of the cold war, these countries have reaped a peace dividend by slashing military spending, downsizing defence industries and moving to lean, “just-in-time” production and low inventories of equipment such as munitions. That is because combating insurgents and terrorists did not require the same kind of heavy weaponry needed in high-intensity land conflicts.
Ukraine has changed that assumption. During intense fighting in the eastern Donbas region this summer, Russia used more ammunition in two days than the British military has in stock. Under Ukrainian rates of artillery consumption, British stockpiles might last a week and the UK’s European allies are in no better position, according to a report by the Royal United Services Institute think-tank in London.
“The west has a problem with constrained defence industrial capacity,” said Mick Ryan, a former major general in the Australian army. “A major industrial expansion programme will be required if the nations of the west are to rebuild the capacity to design, produce and stockpile . . . large quantities of munitions.”
The second factor is bureaucracy. Governments say they are committed to bigger defence budgets. Yet, amid so much economic uncertainty, they have been slow to write the multiyear procurement contracts that defence groups need to accelerate production.
“It’s a corporate finance problem,” said a senior European defence official. “No company wants to invest in a second factory line to boost production without long-term, contractual certainty. Will Russia still be a threat in five years and, if it’s not, will governments still be buying arms fr
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A long but engaging read.
Dimitri Orlov is a Russian expat and engineer.
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The Goldilocks War
December 02, 2022
by Dmitry Orlov for the Saker blog
Are you happy with the way the war in the former Ukraine is going? Most people aren’t—for one reason or another. Some people hate the fact that there is a war there at all, while others love it but hate the fact that it hasn’t been won yet, by one side or the other. Bounteous quantities of both of these kinds of haters are found on both sides of the new Iron Curtain that is hastily being built across Eurasia between the collective West and the collective East. This seems reasonable; after all, hating war is standard procedure for most people (war is hell, don’t you know!) and by extension a small war is better than a big one and a short war is better than a long one. And also such reasoning is banal, trite, platitudinous, vapid, predictable, unimaginative and… bromidic (according to the English Thesaurus).
Seldom is to be found a war-watcher who is happy with the progress and the duration of the war. Luckily, Russian state television shows a very significant one these almost daily. It is Russia’s president, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Having paid attention to him for over twenty years now, I can confidently state that never has he been so imbued with calm, self-assured serenity leavened with droll humor. This is not the demeanor of someone who feels at any risk of losing a war. The brass at the Ministry of Defense appear dour and glum on camera—a demeanor befitting men who send other men to fight and possibly to be wounded or to die; but off-camera they flash each other quick Mona Lisa smiles. (Russian men don’t give stupid American-style fish-eyed toothy grins, rarely show their teeth when smiling, and never in the presence of wolves or bears).
Given that Putin’s approval rating stands firm at around 80% (a number beyond reach of any Western politician), it is reasonable to assume that he is just the visible tip of a gigantic, 100-million-strong iceberg of Russians who calmly await the successful conclusion of the special military operation to demilitarize and denazify the former Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic (so please don’t even call it a war). These 100 million Russians are seldom heard from, and when they do make noise, it is to protest against bureaucratic dawdling and foot-dragging or to raise private funds with which to remedy a shortage of some specialty equipment requested by the troops: night vision goggles, quadrocopters, optical sights, and all sorts of fancy tactical gear.
A great deal more noise is being made by the one or two percent whose entire business plan has been wrecked by the sudden appearance of the New Iron Curtain. The silliest of these thought that fleeing west, or south (to Turkey, Kazakhstan or Georgia) would somehow magically fix their problem; it hasn’t, and it won’t. The people we would expect to scream the loudest are the LGBTQ+ activists, who thought that they were going to use Western grant money to build East Sodom and East Gomorrah. They’ve been hobbled and muzzled by new Russian laws that label them as foreign agents and prohibit their sort of propaganda. In fact, the very term LGBTQ+ is now illegal, and so, I suppose, they will have to use PPPPP+ instead (“P” is for “pídor”, which is the generic Russian term for any sort of sexual pervert, degenerate or deviant). But I digress.
It can be observed rather readily that those who are the least happy with the course of the Russian campaign are also the least likely to be Russian. Least happy of all are the good folks at the Center for Informational and Political Operations of the Ukrainian Security Service who are charged with creating and maintaining the Phantom of Ukrainian Victory. These are followed by people in and around Washington, who are quite infuriated by Russian dawdling and foot-dragging. They have also been hard-pressed to show that the Ukrainians are winning while the Russians are losing; to this end, they have portrayed every Russ
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The Caspian: A 'Sea Of Peace And Friendship'?
The world's largest inland body of water has been used by Russia to launch missiles against Ukraine.
Four years ago, after 22 years of negotiations, the leaders of the five littoral states of the Caspian Sea -- Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan, Russia, and Turkmenistan -- signed a convention defining its legal status. The convention regulates the rights and obligations of the parties in relation to the use of the Caspian Sea, including its waters, bed, subsoil, natural resources, and airspace.
According to the document, the parties agreed to use the sea only for peaceful purposes.
"We succeeded in turning the Caspian Sea into a sea of friendship," said then-Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbaev, who praised the achievement of the Convention on the Legal Status of the Caspian Sea at a summit of leaders of the Caspian states held in Aqtau four years ago.
Assessing the document as an "epoch-making event," Putin said the convention "guarantees that the Caspian Sea will be used only for peaceful purposes."
Russia Is Using The Caspian Sea To Launch Strikes Against Ukraine. So Why Are The Caspian Countries Silent?
https://www.rferl.org/a/caspian-sea-ukraine-war-russia-peace-friendshi
p-convention/32158822.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Because fuck Ukraine. That's why.
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Quote:You remind me over and over that you think like a criminal. Your endless sympathy for Trump, the psychopath, is a reminder. Even your sympathizing with Arthur Fleck, from the Joker movie, tells me clearly what you are, 6ix.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because fuck Ukraine. That's why.
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See, for example, The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists from Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-don
ald-trump-and-his-loyalists/
Trump’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it
There are thousands of more articles about how crazy Trump's followers are:
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump%27s+psychopathology
But I don't need to read the articles because I have real life experience with Trumptards. It's rather bizarre how the Texas Trumptards hate Ukraine, but not more weird than the way the Trumptards suffer and struggle, and often fail, to stay in the middle class because of their mental illnesses.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You remind me over and over that you think like a criminal. Your endless sympathy for Trump, the psychopath, is a reminder. Even your sympathizing with Arthur Fleck, from the Joker movie, tells me clearly what you are, 6ix.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because fuck Ukraine. That's why.
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Get fucked, Arthur...
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Repost of thread to HAKEN created on June 17, 2022 and updated on June 22nd, 2022.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65116
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NOTICE TO HAKEN: Second's Death Threats, Assassination Attempt Fantasies, Violent Posts, and other toxic behavior
The remaining members of Fireflyfans.net should not be subjected to Second's behavior, his calls for violence, his racism and his wishing death on others he doesn't agree with.
I'm asking Haken now to finally remove Second from these boards. Ever since his other handle Reaverfan was banned from Fireflyfans.net, his Second handle has devolved into little more than a violence fantasy factory.
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July 30, 2019: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/i73bY
October 31st, 2020: Death threat against Amy Coney Barrett
https://archive.ph/6nwD9
October 31st, 2020: Second death threat that day against Amy Coney Barrett
https://archive.ph/6nwD9
September 2nd, 2021: Death threat against the Supreme Court Justices
https://archive.ph/IJw76
April 28th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/NFbSt
March 30th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/L0Zeq
March 30th, 2022: Second death threat that day against President Trump
https://archive.ph/nVqVC
May 2nd, 2022: Second throws around the N word like he owns it
https://archive.ph/B8ocv
May 25th, 2022: Death threat against the Supreme Court
https://archive.ph/OaT3U
June 4th, 2022: Second wishes death on me (Under his Second handle, not his Reaverfan one)
https://archive.ph/J0RY6
June 5th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/rIr6u
June 22nd, 2022: Second threatens to burn my house down in an Italian Mafia style "It would be a shame if your house burned down" kind of way.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220622232014/http://fireflyfans.net/mthr
ead.aspx?bid=18&tid=64666&p=7
July 13, 2022: Death threat against President Trump.
https://archive.ph/rX2bm
July 14th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/pWizO
August 4th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump
https://archive.ph/Yu3m5
August 23rd: Death threat against President Trump.
https://archive.ph/BN2Zi
September 13th, 2022: Death threat against President Trump as well as challenging HAKEN to remove him from the site.
https://archive.ph/uoF1xQuote:
Both Putin and Trump will be fine, but they would be even better with two bullets in the back of the head. 6ix, see if you can get me banned for inciting assassination. Call the Secret Service. Call the Russian Embassy. Call Haken. I'm sure you are important enough, with all your connections, to get the law rolling against me. And while you are at it, could you please end all Wars, end all hunger, and end global climate change?
I decided at this time not to add the stuff that Kiki has archived on her own through this site, because there are no time stamps here and unless there is a way to find posts and date/time stamps on the administrative side to verify them, they were not archived offsite like the preceding posts were. Though I do know that her archival were things he said in the past, it is too easy to fake somebody else's posts by these means without an outside archival website and I will not enter them here unless asked for them.
At this point I ask Haken either to give a s
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Quote:6ix, you already proved that you are crazy a long time ago. 6ix, try to make the connection between that and the fact that your house is cold because you can't afford to heat it more. As for the Russians, they are poor compared to their enemies (Finland, Canada, the UK, and just about every country in the EU) because they are crazy, too. You would have to be a crazy Russian to not emigrate from a country with a history this terrible:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Get fucked, Arthur...
R.J. Rummel, Lethal Politics - Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 (Published 1990)
While there are estimates of the number of people killed by Soviet authorities during particular episodes or campaigns, until now, no one has tried to calculate the complete human toll of Soviet genocides and mass murders since the revolution of 1917. Here, R. J. Rummel lists and analyzes hundreds of published estimates, presenting them in the historical context in which they occurred. His shocking conclusion is that, conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/
Preface
This book is part of a project on government genocide and mass killing in this century. The aim is to test the hypothesis that the citizens of democracies are the least likely to be murdered by their own governments; the citizens of totalitarian, especially Marxist systems, the most likely. The theory is that democratic systems provide a path to peace, and universalizing them would eliminate war and minimize global political violence. This was the conclusion of my Understanding Conflict and War,' and has been further confirmed by systematic, empirical tests since.
In the process of that research, I discovered that governments have murdered tens of millions of their own citizens, and that in some cases, the death toll may have actually exceeded that of World War II. To get some idea of the numbers involved, I surveyed the extent of genocide and mass killing by governments since 1900. The results were shocking: according to these first figures—independent of war and other kinds of conflict—governments probably have murdered 119,400,000 people—Marxist governments about 95,200,000 of them. By comparison, the battle-killed in all foreign and domestic wars in this century total 35,700,000.
These monstrous statistics sharply reoriented my research. For more than thirty years as a political scientist and peace researcher, I had focused my research on the causes and conditions of war, conflict, and peace. I had believed that war was the greatest killer and that nuclear war would be a global holocaust. Now I have found that the total killed by government in cold blood was almost four times that of war. It was as though a nuclear war had already occurred.
Download all R.J. Rummel books for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.page/search.php?req=R.J.+Rummel
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you already proved that you are crazy a long time ago. 6ix, try to make the connection between that and the fact that your house is cold because you can't afford to heat it more.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Get fucked, Arthur...
I can turn it up. I could have it at 99 degrees now if I wanted to.
But unlike little worms like you who never practice what they preach, I refuse to give them any more money than I gave them last year. Last month was a success. 42% less energy usage and a $4 cheaper energy bill than the year before.
The unintended side effect of this is that I'm running my house a lot more "green" than most people are. My usual energy usage every month is anywhere between 2 and 25% less than my most "efficient" neighbors, and it has NEVER been more them. I've saved every single energy report I get quarterly from the power company telling me where I fall on energy usage as receipts. I doubt I'd break 50%, but I'm shooting for 40% less than the most efficient neighbors this winter.
I'm nice and cozy in my hoodie.
What have you done today to earn your place on this crowed world?
Virtue Signalling in the RWED don't count.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You remind me over and over that you think like a criminal.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because fuck Ukraine. That's why.
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You can't fool anyone, SECOND. We all know you're the evil person around here.
And a liar.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia
The massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia (Polish: rzez wolynska, lit.?'Volhynian slaughter'; Ukrainie Rromanized: Volynska trahediia, lit.?'Volyn tragedy'), were carried out in German-occupied Poland by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, or the UPA, with the support of parts of the local Ukrainian population against the Polish minority in Volhynia, Eastern Galicia, parts of Polesia and Lublin region from 1943 to 1945.[7] The peak of the massacres took place in July and August 1943. Most of the victims were women and children.[8] Many of the Polish victims regardless of age or gender were tortured before being killed; some of the methods included rape, dismemberment or immolation, among others. The UPA's actions resulted in between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eas
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Pity would be no more,
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"The Russian plans for the invasion of Ukraine were detailed and offered solutions to most of the practical problems that Russia would face in occupying Ukraine," the report read. "If competently executed, these plans could have succeeded."
https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-invasion-plan-reveals-4-assumptions-pu
tin-regime-wrong-1764309
"If competently executed, these plans could have succeeded." Russians haven't competently handled their economy, which is why Russians, on average, are poor compared to the EU average. Luckily, the Russians are fighting a country where the average citizen is even more backward and incompetent than the Russians. Given enough time, maybe the Russians will win, but so far Russians are not performing competently in battle.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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That's what I thought, bitch.
Fuck you, and Fuck Ukraine.
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Quote:Before the February invasion, Russia's potential adversaries assumed Russian forces would utilize their seemingly massive stores of firepower and manpower with "a basic level of competence," in line with what they'd exhibited in smaller-scale military operations around the world in the recent decades.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's what I thought, bitch.
Fuck you, and Fuck Ukraine.
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But there were flaws in that assessment. There was too much focus on the quantity of equipment, rather than the quality of Russian personnel, their leadership, training and motivations.
https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-invasion-plan-reveals-4-assumptions-pu
tin-regime-wrong-1764309
Trumptards number in the tens of millions, but they are low quality individuals, which is why they suffer in the American economy. Same is true of Russians. Because they are low quality, they suffer in the world economy compared to EU citizens. Russian and Trumptard oversized pride doesn't allow them to acknowledge their low quality, which leaves them confused about the cause of their low economic status. In the case of Russians, they blame the "West" and Ukraine, not themselves. Trumptards blame Democrats, RINOS, illegal aliens, Coastal Elites and Ukraine, but, again, not themselves.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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License to kill: How Europe lets Iran and Russia get away with murder
For rogue states, solving a problem by assassination often proves irresistible.
The war in Ukraine offers profound lessons about the inherent risks of coddling dictators. Though Germany, with its thirst for Russian gas, is often criticized in that regard, it was far from alone in Europe. Europe’s insistence on giving Putin the benefit of the doubt over the years in the face of his crimes convinced him that he would face few consequences in the West for his invasion of Ukraine. That’s turned out to be wrong; but who could blame the Russian leader for thinking it?
Kremlin’s killings
Some hope the growing outrage in Western societies over Iran’s crackdown on peaceful protesters could be the spark that convinces Europe to get tough on Iran. But Europe’s handling of its other favorite rogue actor — Russia — suggests otherwise.
Long before Russia’s annexation of Crimea, much less its all-out war against Ukraine, Moscow, similar to Iran, undertook an aggressive campaign against its enemies abroad and made little effort to hide it.
The most prominent victim was Alexander Litvinenko. A former KGB officer like Vladimir Putin, Litvinenko had defected to the U.K., where he joined other exiles opposed to Putin. In 2006, he was poisoned in London by Russian intelligence with polonium-210, a radioactive isotope that investigators concluded was mixed into his tea. The daring operation signaled Moscow’s return to the Soviet-era practice of artful assassination.
Litvinenko died a painful death within weeks, but not before he blamed Putin for killing him, calling the Russian president “barbaric.”
“You may succeed in silencing me, but that silence comes at a price,” Litvinenko said from his deathbed.
In the end, however, the only one who really paid a price was Litvinenko. Putin continued as before and despite deep tensions in the U.K.’s relationship with Russia over the assassination, it did nothing to halt the transformation of the British capital into what has come to be known as “Londongrad,” a playground and second home for Russia’s Kremlin-backed oligarchs, who critics say use the British financial and legal systems to hide and launder their money.
Litvinenko’s killing was remarkable both for its brutality and audacity. If Putin was willing to take out an enemy on British soil with a radioactive element, what else was he capable of?
It didn’t take long to find out. In the months and years that followed, the bodies started to pile up. Critical journalists, political opponents and irksome oligarchs in the prime of life began dropping like flies.
Europe didn’t blink.
Angela Merkel, then German chancellor, visited Putin in his vacation residence in Sochi just weeks after the murders of Litvinenko and investigative journalist Anna Politkovskaya and said … nothing.
Even after there was no denying Putin’s campaign to eradicate anyone who challenged him, European leaders kept coming in the hope of deepening economic ties.
Neither the assassination of prominent Putin critic Boris Nemtsov just steps away from the Kremlin in 2015, nor the poisoning of a KGB defector and his daughter in the U.K. in 2018 and of opposition leader Alexei Navalny in 2020 with nerve agents disabused European leaders of the notion that Putin was someone they could do business with and, more importantly, control.
‘Anything can happen’
Just how comfortable Russia felt about using Europe as a killing field became clear in the summer of 2019. Around noon on a sunny August day, a Russian assassin approached Zelimkhan Khangoshvili, a Chechen with Georgian nationality, and shot him twice in the head with a 9mm pistol. The murder took place in a park located just a few hundred meters from Germany’s interior ministry and several witnesses saw the killer flee. He was nabbed within minutes as he was changing his clothes and trying to dispose of his weapon a
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Before the February invasion, Russia's potential adversaries assumed Russian forces would utilize their seemingly massive stores of firepower and manpower with "a basic level of competence," in line with what they'd exhibited in smaller-scale military operations around the world in the recent decades.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's what I thought, bitch.
Fuck you, and Fuck Ukraine.
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But there were flaws in that assessment. There was too much focus on the quantity of equipment, rather than the quality of Russian personnel, their leadership, training and motivations.
https://www.newsweek.com/leaked-invasion-plan-reveals-4-assumptions-pu
tin-regime-wrong-1764309
Trumptards number in the tens of millions, but they are low quality individuals, which is why they suffer in the American economy. Same is true of Russians. Because they are low quality, they suffer in the world economy compared to EU citizens. Russian and Trumptard oversized pride doesn't allow them to acknowledge their low quality, which leaves them confused about the cause of their low economic status. In the case of Russians, they blame the "West" and Ukraine, not themselves. Trumptards blame Democrats, RINOS, illegal aliens, Coastal Elites and Ukraine, but, again, not themselves.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
FUN FACT: 90% of welfare recipients in the US are Democratic voters.
Fuck you and fuck Ukraine.
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Quote:I know these self-described "democrats". I realized after hearing a hundred different black "democrats" speak the same ideas that might well come out of the mouth of a Trumptard, that the "democrat" wasn't a real Democrat. They only voted for the Democratic Party because the Republican Party made the "democrat" feel very uncomfortable for being black. These black "democrats" didn't live or act or believe or understand at all like a real Democrat. They would fit perfectly well into the Republican Party if only they were white. I saw the exact same thing happen with White "democrats" in Texas who didn't like President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society or the Voting Rights Act or Medicare or the Vietnam War Protestors. Those White "democrats" denounced the Democratic Party and switched to being Republicans in Texas.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
FUN FACT: 90% of welfare recipients in the US are Democratic voters.
Fuck you and fuck Ukraine.
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6ix, what I am saying is that the poorer you are, whether black, brown or white, the more likely you are to be strongly attracted to the ideas that Trump sells. Poor blacks are repelled by Trump only because he makes his racial hatred of black obvious to even the most obtuse blacks, exception for jackasses like Kanye West. Have you seen the cartoon series The Boondocks with stories mostly about blacks? Uncle Ruckus is the wacko Kanye West character in The Boondocks. Uncle Ruckus thinks he is a white man with a skin condition the exact opposite of vitiligo.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373732/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I know these self-described "democrats". I realized after hearing a hundred different black "democrats" speak the same ideas that might well come out of the mouth of a Trumptard, that the "democrat" wasn't a real Democrat. They only voted for the Democratic Party because the Republican Party made the "democrat" feel very uncomfortable for being black. These black "democrats" didn't live or act or believe or understand at all like a real Democrat. They would fit perfectly well into the Republican Party if only they were white. I saw the exact same thing happen with White "democrats" in Texas who didn't like President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society or the Voting Rights Act or Medicare or the Vietnam War Protestors. Those White "democrats" denounced the Democratic Party and switched to being Republicans in Texas.
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FUN FACT: 90% of welfare recipients in the US are Democratic voters.
Fuck you and fuck Ukraine.
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6ix, what I am saying is that the poorer you are, whether black, brown or white, the more likely you are to be strongly attracted to the ideas that Trump sells. Poor blacks are repelled by Trump only because he makes his racial hatred of black obvious to even the most obtuse blacks, exception for jackasses like Kanye West. Have you seen the cartoon series The Boondocks with stories mostly about blacks? Uncle Ruckus is the wacko Kanye West character in The Boondocks. Uncle Ruckus thinks he is a white man with a skin condition the exact opposite of vitiligo.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373732/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
You should show a little more fucking respect for black people.
If you didn't have them, Democrats wouldn't ever win an election at any level ever again.
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... A victory for the Russians, even one that resembles the apocalypse, is a very real and very jarring possibility. For the Kremlin, securing Bakhmut — one of the few places it is not in retreat — represents the frenzied feat needed to change the narrative of their losing “special military operation.”
To counter the Wagner assault is a group of mostly retired western military professionals known as The Mozart Group. The irony of two composers of beautiful classical music giving namesake to booming, ugly factions of war is not to be missed.
The Mozart Group, a nongovernmental organization founded by former U.S. Marine Special Forces Col. Andy Milburn, sprang to life in the spring with a small but resolute team that travels deep into dangerous territory, to the voids where no other aid organization or government outfit dares venture.
However, even Andy worries that the moving chronology of David defeating Goliath has warped some of the on-ground realities.
“What is less understood [in the media] are some of the more sophisticated aspects of what is happening here. Morale might be the strongest weapon [Ukrainians] have, but it is not enough by itself,” he cautions. “This can lead to complacency, and that is very damaging.”
... I watch helplessly as missiles whirl above and slam into civilian infrastructure. Certainly, Moscow’s targeting of non-combatant dwellings has been well-documented throughout the war. However, what I also observe is that Ukraine’s military often sets up posts directly outside humanitarian headquarters, hospitals and homes. It is for self-protection or because there are no longer conventional sandbagged frontlines and delineations between the armed and the unarmed. Nevertheless, it makes the scenario uncomfortable and makes every inch a pronounced target.
MORE AT https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2022/12/04/losses-in-ukr
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The commander of the neo-Nazi Svoboda battalion, Petro Kuzik, whose unit is trying to hold Bakhmut, told Western media that the fields and forests around are littered with the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers, and they have to defend themselves in extreme cold and knee-deep in water.
“They [the Russians] sensed a weakness in our defenses because there are units that are less motivated than ours. And yesterday they slightly weakened our defenses in the area immediately around Bakhmut. Some units could not withstand this artillery onslaught and retreated.”
Asked how serious the loss of life is, he said: “They are colossal. We don’t even count the bodies.”
https://www.australiannationalreview.com/state-of-affairs/the-commande
r-of-the-neo-nazi-svoboda-battalion-petro-kuzik-whose-unit-is-trying-to-hold-bakhmut/
Commentary at https://sonar21.com/the-ukrainians-are-in-real-trouble-in-bakhmut/
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Can Ukraine Pay for War Without Bankrupting Its Economy? Here's What Economists Say
Ukraine has won victories on the battlefield against Russia but faces a looming challenge on the economic front.
By David Mchugh • Published December 3, 2022 • Updated on December 3, 2022 at 10:13 am
Even as Ukraine celebrates recent battlefield victories, its government faces a looming challenge on the financial front: how to pay the enormous cost of the war effort without triggering out-of-control price spikes for ordinary people or piling up debt that could hamper postwar reconstruction.
The struggle is finding loans or donations to cover a massive budget deficit for next year — and do it without using central bank bailouts that risk wrecking Ukraine's currency, the hryvnia.
Economists working with the government say that if Ukraine can shore up its finances through the end of next year, it is Russia that could find itself in financial trouble if a proposed oil price cap by the U.S., European Union and allies saps Moscow's earnings.
Here are key facts about Ukraine's economic battle against Russia:
How Has Ukraine Been Paying For Its Defense So Far?
In the first days of Russia's invasion, the Ukrainian government turned to foreign help that came at irregular intervals. When it didn't have enough, the central bank bought government bonds using newly printed money. The alternative would have been to stop paying people's pensions and state salaries.
Economists say printing money — while a badly needed stop-gap measure at the time — risks letting inflation get out of control and collapsing the value of the country's currency if it continues.
Ukraine has painful memories of hyperinflation from the early 1990s, economist Nataliia Shapoval said. As a child, she watched her parents use large bundles of bills for everyday purchases as the currency lost value day by day, before being replaced by today's hryvnia.
“Ukraine has been through this, so we know what inflation that is out of control looks like, and we don't want this again,” said Shapoval, vice president for policy research at the Kyiv School of Economics. “The government and the central bank are already on the slippery slope by printing so much.”
Price stability and the ability to pay pensions have enormous impact on ordinary people and society at a time when Russia is trying to demoralize the population by knocking out power and water heading into winter.
With inflation already high at 27%, price hikes have made it hard for lower-income people to afford food.
Bread that used to cost the equivalent of 50 U.S. cents has doubled, said Halyna Morozova, a resident of Kherson, a recently liberated southern city.
“It is very depressing, and we are nervous. We were living on old stocks (of food), but now the light is turned off, the refrigerator doesn’t work and we have to throw away the food," the 80-year-old said recently.
She said the Russians kept paying her Ukrainian pension in rubles but since they started to withdraw in October, she has received nothing. She’s counting on the government to return any pension money that was lost, she said.
Tetiana Vainshtein, also in Kherson, says natural gas is too expensive to keep her home heated. “I am cold. I like warmth, and I’m terribly cold,” the 68-year-old said.
Bank closures during the Russian occupation kept her from getting her pension cash, forcing her to carefully ration every hryvnia for food, she said.
How Much Support Does Ukraine Need?
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukraine needs $38 billion in outright aid from Western allies like the U.S and 27-nation EU, plus $17 billion for a reconstruction fund for war damage.
Economists associated with the Kyiv School of Economics say a lower overall total of $50 billion from donors would be enough to get Ukraine through the year.
Defense spending is six times higher in the 2023 budget recently passed by the Ukrainian parliament compared to last year. Military and security s
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The following percentages are recipients of welfare based on race.
• White – 38.8%
• Black – 39.8%
• Hispanic – 15.7%
• Asian – 2.4%
• Other – 3.3%
Average Duration Spent on Welfare
The below percentages are based on the timeframe welfare recipients receive assistance.
• Less than 7 months – 19%
• 7-12 months – 15.2%
• 1-2 years – 19.3%
• 2-5 years – 26.9%
• Over 5 years – 19.6%
And we all know Jack lives on government assistence. He's admitted to it countless times.
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Now, back to the topic. Russia Russia Russia!!!
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The following percentages are recipients of welfare based on race.
• White – 38.8%
• Black – 39.8%
• Hispanic – 15.7%
• Asian – 2.4%
• Other – 3.3%
The following percentages are the racial makeup of the country:
• White – 75.1%
• Black – 12.3%
• Hispanic – 12.5%
• Asian – 3.6%
• Other – 5.5%
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/united-states-population
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Can Ukraine Pay for War Without Bankrupting Its Economy?
If the answer is no, then get fucked Ukraine.
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Originally posted by THG:
The following percentages are recipients of welfare based on race.
• White – 38.8%
• Black – 39.8%
• Hispanic – 15.7%
• Asian – 2.4%
• Other – 3.3%
The following percentages are the racial makeup of the country:
• White – 75.1%
• Black – 12.3%
• Hispanic – 12.5%
• Asian – 3.6%
• Other – 5.5%
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/united-states-population
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Percent welfare per percent of population
White 0.52
Black 3.25
Hispanic 1.26
Asian 0.67
Other 0.60
This could eventually be remedied if everyone had equal education, equal job oppty, equal pay for equal work, and equal treatment in finances and housing. By rewarding work and education, eventually the black subculture that rejects everything "white" would disappear. Prejudice is still a factor.
But blacks do themselves no favors by rejecting education, family, and work.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Can Ukraine Pay for War Without Bankrupting Its Economy?
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Ukraine doesn't have much economic activity left and therefore isn't collecting enough taxes to keep its government running, let alone reconstruction. It's only surviving bc of loans, donations, and supplied weapons/munitions. It has nothing left to peddle and no collateral for more loans. (It can't even cover the loans it already has.)
It would either have to dragoon its population for a reconstruction effort or be the recipient of a massive Marshall Plan type donation.
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Yup.
It was rhetorical.
Filed today, just as it was since the beginning, under not our fucking business and not our fucking problem.
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Putin's war in Ukraine looks more and more like a failure. Past Russian leaders haven't survived similar mistakes.
Joy Neumeyer
Dec 4, 2022, 11:37 AM
Vladimir Putin expected an easy victory in Ukraine, but he ended up with a fiasco.
Over and over again, demoralized and ill-equipped Russian soldiers have raped, tortured, and looted their way through Ukrainian towns before fleeing in disgrace — often with highly motivated Ukrainian troops close behind them.
In the greatest humiliation yet, Russian forces withdrew from Kherson — the only regional capital that they had captured — just weeks after Putin declared at a triumphant rally on Red Square that the city was "Russian forever."
For now, Putin's rule appears secure. But the experience of past Russian leaders shows how failure at the front can lead to a critical loss of authority at home — sometimes with deadly consequences.
1) The most extreme scenario is the fate of Tsar Nicholas II.
At the outbreak of World War I, Russia had the largest army in Europe. Over 5 million men — 15% of the population — were mobilized in 1914 alone.
But the autocracy's weak infrastructure, transportation links, and low productivity impaired the war effort: Ammunition ran out by the end of 1914. By the following summer, the Germans had taken huge swathes of Russian-controlled territory and a million Russian soldiers were dead.
The Romanov dynasty's out-of-touch scion — a gentle man who preferred gardening and taking photographs with his family to governing — attempted to improve the situation by taking command of the armed forces himself.
While Russia struggled at the front, food shortages and spiraling inflation created chaos back home. When strikes and street protests broke out in Petrograd (now called St. Petersburg) in February 1917, mutinous soldiers joined the riots.
The tsar, forsaken by his generals and advisors, abdicated on a railroad siding in Pskov in March 1917 and was placed under house arrest with his family a few weeks later.
After the Bolsheviks seized control later that year, Vladimir Lenin signed a separate armistice with Germany.
The tsar and his family were shot and stabbed with bayonets by Bolshevik troops in a Yekaterinburg basement in July 1918, bringing the Romanovs' 300-year reign to an ignominious end.
2) Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev was also felled in part by a foreign-policy blunder, though it thankfully resulted in no deaths.
In October 1962, an American U-2 spy plane photographed Soviet nuclear missile sites in Cuba. The resulting confrontation between the US and the Soviet Union put the world on the brink of destruction.
But as Secretary of State Dean Rusk put it, "We've been eyeball to eyeball, and someone just blinked." Soviet ships stopped in the water, and Khrushchev announced that the missiles would be removed.
This international embarrassment weakened Khrushchev's position in the leadership.
He could have stepped down with dignity after his 70th birthday in April 1964, but instead he was forced into retirement later that year by a group of rivals who had the support of the KGB.
Ironically, Khrushchev's removal was made possible by his own desire to reject Stalin's despotism. After leading a limited attempt to democratize the Soviet Union, Khrushchev saw his peaceful overthrow as a sign of his success.
He spent the final years of his life in obscurity, dictating his memoirs outside Moscow.
3) The last and most ambitious Soviet reformer, Mikhail Gorbachev, presided over a military failure that imperiled his authority — and brought the Soviet Union down with it.
When Gorbachev came into office in 1985, he inherited the Soviet Union's flailing war in Afghanistan, launched in 1979 under the sclerotic Leonid Brezhnev. After an ineffectual troop surge, Gorbachev gave up on trying to improve the situation, and the last Soviet troops left Afghanistan in February 1989.
The withdrawal signal
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Nobel Peace Prize winner, Irina Scherbakova, co-founder of the Russian rights organisation, Memorial, said she sees no prospect for a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine.
‘The solution that there will be now is a military one in my eyes. But this diplomacy will only happen when Ukraine believes it has won this war and can set its terms. I believe only in this possibility,’ she said.
The Russian historian was speaking last night in Hamburg, where she was presented with the Marion Doenhoff Prize for her years of work on human rights in her home country by German Chancellor, Olaf Scholz.
When asked by a journalist if she believed this would be with or without Russian President Vladimir Putin, Scherbakova replied that she believed it would be ‘without Putin’.
The Russian president has said he is open to negotiations, but not to demands that Moscow pulls out of Ukraine. However, Ukraine says it will not sit down at the negotiating table before Moscow leaves all occupied territories.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/05/russian-nobel-peace-laureate-no-pr
ospect-of-negotiated-end-to-war-in-ukraine
Who would receive the opposite of the Nobel Peace Prize? You’re right! Putin signs expanded anti-LGBTQ laws in Russia, in latest crackdown on rights
The ban was rubber-stamped by Putin just days after a harsh new “foreign agents” law came into effect, as the Kremlin cracks down on free speech and human rights as its military operation in Ukraine falters.
The broadening of the “LGBT propaganda” law is just the latest in many steps that Putin’s government has taken in recent months to crush the last pockets of opposition, liberal values and free speech in Russia.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/05/europe/russia-lgbtq-propaganda-law-sign
ed-by-putin-intl/index.html
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Ukraine leader defiant as drone strikes hit Russia again
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Drones struck inside Russia’s border with Ukraine Tuesday in the second day of attacks exposing the vulnerability of some of Moscow’s most important military sites, observers said.
Ukrainian officials did not formally confirm carrying out drone strikes inside Russia, and they have maintained ambiguity over previous high-profile attacks.
But Ukrainian presidential adviser Mikhail Podolyak taunted Moscow in comments on Twitter, and Britain’s Defense Ministry said Russia was likely to consider the attacks on Russian bases more than 500 kilometers (300 miles) from the border with Ukraine as “some of the most strategically significant failures of force protection since its invasion of Ukraine.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-leader-defiant-as-drone-s
trikes-hit-russia-again/ar-AA14Xhl4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ab369b15632348c1bf70c2a63de67b24
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Ukraine war: South Korea weapons, including tanks, arrive in Poland after US$5.8 billion deal
Polish President Andrzej Duda, South Korean officials among group welcoming an initial shipment of tanks and artillery guns to Poland, an EU and Nato member
Poland says South Korea responded quickly to its need to increase its deterrence and defence potential as Russia’s war in Ukraine, just over the border, continues
Polish President Andrzej Duda and the country’s defence minister on Tuesday took delivery of a first shipment of tanks and howitzers from South Korea, hailing the swift implementation of a deal signed in the summer in the face of the war in neighbouring Ukraine.
Duda and Mariusz Blaszczak were in the Polish Navy port of Gdynia, on the Baltic coast, to mark the arrival by sea of the first 10 Black Panther K2 tanks, along with 24 Thunder K9 howitzers, a kind of long-range artillery weapon, from a US$5.8 billion deal with Seoul.
They stressed that South Korea responded quickly to the need by Poland, a European Union nation and Nato member, to urgently increase its deterrence and defence potential as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has invaded Ukraine, just across Poland’s eastern border. Poland also borders Russia.
Korean government and defence industry officials were also present to see the weapons arrive.
“This is the future, this is the real strengthening of Poland’s security,” Duda said, standing before the tanks and the howitzers. “In order to stop aggression, to stop the enemy, it is necessary for the army to have this modern equipment,” he added.
More deliveries are planned between now and 2025. Poland is purchasing hundreds of K2 Black Panther tanks made by Hyundai Rotem and K9 Thunder howitzers made by Hanhwa Defence. The deal includes training, logistics and ammunition.
The conservative government in Warsaw is also buying Korean FA-50 fighter jets, a light training and combat aircraft made jointly by Korea Aerospace and Lockheed Martin, for some US$3 billion.
Poland is also seeking a technology transfer so it can launch production domestically.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3202294/south-korea-wea
pons-including-tanks-arrive-poland-after-us58-billion-deal
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has acknowledged that his army could be fighting in Ukraine for a long time, but for now there will be no second call-up of soldiers.
Putin has rarely spoken about the duration of a war that he began more than nine months ago but told loyalists in a televised meeting on Wednesday it could go on for some time yet.
"This can be a long process," he said.
Putin, in his remarks, said the risk of a nuclear war was growing but Russia would not recklessly threaten to use such weapons.
"We haven't gone mad, we realise what nuclear weapons are," Putin said. "We have these means in more advanced and modern form than any other nuclear country ... But we aren't about to run around the world brandishing this weapon like a razor."
Putin has said he has no regrets about launching a war that has become Europe's most devastating since World War Two.
He said Russia had achieved a "significant result" with the acquisition of "new territories" - a reference to the annexation of four partly occupied regions in September that Ukraine and most members of the United Nations condemned as illegal.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-acknowledges-russias-war-uk
raine-could-be-long-one-2022-12-07/
(I am unconvinced that Putin is sane. Time will tell.)
TIME magazine named Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the President of Ukraine, and ‘the spirit of Ukraine’ have been named the Person of the Year. “This year’s choice was the most clear-cut in memory. Whether the battle for Ukraine fills one with hope or with fear, Volodymyr Zelensky galvanized the world in a way we haven’t seen in decades,” Edward Felsenthal, TIME's CEO, wrote. Apart from Zelenskyy, Felsenthal praised volunteers, activists, and servicemen who had a heart for Ukraine and committed to release the country from suffering. The TIME cover is sustained in blue and yellow colors with Zelenskyy surrounded by other influential public figures in the center.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/katyasoldak/2022/12/07/wednesday-december
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An ex-Russian military commander who visited the frontline in Ukraine said Russian soldiers are in disarray as a result of fighting a war with no clear purpose and poor strategic planning by the Kremlin.
Igor Girkin, a former Federal Security Service officer and military chief who led the annexation of Crimea in 2014, has recently been a critic of Russia's military strategy in Ukraine, often dispensing his views on Telegram.
On Tuesday, Girkin recounted what he saw at the front on Telegram and said that Russian troops are fighting with no clear "strategic goals."
"Simply put, the troops are fighting 'by inertia,' not having the slightest idea of the ultimate strategic goals of the current military campaign," he wrote, according to Insider's translation of his Telegram post.
He continued that the lack of a clear purpose and the conditions for victory or simply ending the war is causing "apathy" amongst the soldiers.
"In most parts of the RF (Russian Federation) Armed Forces, soldiers and officers do not understand: In the name of what, for what, and with what purposes they are fighting. It's a mystery for them: What is the condition for victory or just a condition for ending the war," Gurkin wrote. "And the authorities of the Russian Federation are not able to explain this to them, since setting a clear goal for the SMO [Special Military Operation] means 'limiting room for maneuver' — that is, losing the opportunity to declare the goals of the SMO as achieved at any moment that the Kremlin leaders consider convenient."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-operative-who-visited-
the-front-in-ukraine-says-russian-troops-are-in-disarray-due-to-a-crisis-of-strategic-planning/ar-AA152azR
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The Tu-141 reconnaissance drone, which Ukraine may have modified into a cruise missile with 1,000 km range - can strike Russian strategic bomber air bases. Only 142 of them were made, we don't know how many UA has, and the Soviets used to use them for target practice.
One of these is known to have crashed in Zagreb, Croatia, 550 km from Ukraine, on March 10, presumably after having suffered a catastrophic navigation failure.
Unknown weapons, but within the Tu-141's range, struck the Saki airbase in UA's Russian-occupied Crimea on Aug 9. On Oct. 9, an explosion struck the Crimea bridge between UA's Crimea and Russia - at a distance even further than the Saki attack, but still within Tu-141's range.
If we assume that the same drones were used to attack Russian air bases on Dec. 5 and Dec. 6, then we know that at least four have been used. How many did the Soviets destroy? How many were used in tests? How many are left? Nobody knows.
Ukraine, however, is a highly developed, industrial country. It can produce rockets, aircraft, and advanced avionics using its own resources. Its people are innovative and ingenious. It has already produced an indigenous sea attack drone. Expect more surprises.
Yuri Knutov warns that Ukraine could strike nuclear power or chemical plants in Russia to create an ecological disaster
Ukraine's long-range strikes on Russian airfields are creating panic amongst Kremlin propagandists.
1:29 PM · Dec 7, 2022
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/12/7/2140642/-Ukraine-Invasion-D
ay-288-Bells-and-Spectators-of-the-Theater-of-War
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Quote:In most parts of the Russian Federation Armed Forces, soldiers and officers do not understand in the name of what, for what, and with what purposes they are fighting. It's a mystery for them what is the condition for victory or just a condition for ending the war. The authorities of the Russian Federation are not able to explain this to them, since setting a clear goal for the SMO [Special Military Operation] means 'limiting room for maneuver' — that is, losing the opportunity to declare the goals of the SMO as achieved at any moment that the Kremlin leaders consider convenient.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-operative-who-visited-
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In the most one-sided trade in the history of bartering, Biden* just gave Putin one of his Russian arms dealers in trade for a black, lesbian pothead woman who plays a sport that nobody watches and is subsidized by a sport that men play and people actually watch.
Trump would have at least held out for the US Marine who's spent the last 4 years in the Russian gulag as part of the deal.
But I'm sure he was a straight white male and that Putin has fully respected his straight white male privilege status and will continue to do so until America has a real president that will get him back home.
Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:In most parts of the Russian Federation Armed Forces, soldiers and officers do not understand in the name of what, for what, and with what purposes they are fighting. It's a mystery for them what is the condition for victory or just a condition for ending the war. The authorities of the Russian Federation are not able to explain this to them, since setting a clear goal for the SMO [Special Military Operation] means 'limiting room for maneuver' — that is, losing the opportunity to declare the goals of the SMO as achieved at any moment that the Kremlin leaders consider convenient.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
*yawn*
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-operative-who-visited-
the-front-in-ukraine-says-russian-troops-are-in-disarray-due-to-a-crisis-of-strategic-planning/ar-AA152azR
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Russia is losing its army.
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Quote:The judge who sentenced the Russian thought his sentence was excessive: “He got a hard deal,” said Shira Scheindlin, the retired judge, noting the U.S. sting operatives “put words in his mouth” so he’d say he was aware Americans could die from weapons he sold in order to require a terrorism enhancement that would force a long prison sentence, if not a life term. Scheindlin gave Bout the mandatory minimum 25-year sentence but said she did so only because it was required.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In the most one-sided trade in the history of bartering, Biden* just gave Putin one of his Russian arms dealers in trade for a black, lesbian pothead woman who plays a sport that nobody watches and is subsidized by a sport that men play and people actually watch.
Trump would have at least held out for the US Marine who's spent the last 4 years in the Russian gulag as part of the deal.
But I'm sure he was a straight white male and that Putin has fully respected his straight white male privilege status and will continue to do so until America has a real president that will get him back home.
Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Bout has already served ten years in prison, which is arguably a fair sentence for what he actually did. (Bout has actually been in custody for 14.75 years. It's been 11 years since he was convicted, he was held for 2.5 years in Thailand at the US request before extradition and he was in pre-conviction custody for a year.)
The Russians sincerely believe that the US treated Bout inexcusably and had been demanding his release for a year.
https://jabberwocking.com/was-it-right-to-swap-brittney-griner-innocen
t-basketball-player-for-viktor-bout-guilty-arms-dealer/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The judge who sentenced the Russian thought his sentence was excessive: “He got a hard deal,” said Shira Scheindlin, the retired judge, noting the U.S. sting operatives “put words in his mouth” so he’d say he was aware Americans could die from weapons he sold in order to require a terrorism enhancement that would force a long prison sentence, if not a life term. Scheindlin gave Bout the mandatory minimum 25-year sentence but said she did so only because it was required.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
In the most one-sided trade in the history of bartering, Biden* just gave Putin one of his Russian arms dealers in trade for a black, lesbian pothead woman who plays a sport that nobody watches and is subsidized by a sport that men play and people actually watch.
Trump would have at least held out for the US Marine who's spent the last 4 years in the Russian gulag as part of the deal.
But I'm sure he was a straight white male and that Putin has fully respected his straight white male privilege status and will continue to do so until America has a real president that will get him back home.
Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
Bout has already served ten years in prison, which is arguably a fair sentence for what he actually did. (Bout has actually been in custody for 14.75 years. It's been 11 years since he was convicted, he was held for 2.5 years in Thailand at the US request before extradition and he was in pre-conviction custody for a year.)
The Russians sincerely believe that the US treated Bout inexcusably and had been demanding his release for a year.
https://jabberwocking.com/was-it-right-to-swap-brittney-griner-innocen
t-basketball-player-for-viktor-bout-guilty-arms-dealer/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
HEY LOOK EVERYBODY. THE LEGACY MEDIA GOT SECOND TO DEFEND RUSSIA AND A RUSSIAN.
You are too stupid for words.
I'm fuckin' done with you today.
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Yanno, after a couple of days away from this website, SECOND fades to insignificance. And I realized that the reason why SECOND keeps banging in and on about stuff nobody believes anymore (besides being a troll) is bc he's a pathetic man, empty of any emotional center to his life except this moribund website.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:. . . in the wake of Russian defeats, first in Kyiv, later in the Donbass and beyond, Putin’s justifications have been ever-changing. Initially, Putin claimed it was solely to rescue the Russian-speaking people of the Donbass. Then, it was to reverse a U.S.-orchestrated coup forcing former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych from power in 2014.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, after a couple of days away from this website, SECOND fades to insignificance. And I realized that the reason why SECOND keeps banging in and on about stuff nobody believes anymore (besides being a troll) is bc he's a pathetic man, empty of any emotional center to his life except this moribund website.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Next, lacking a victory on Victory Day, Putin resorted to claiming the war was about fighting Nazis in Ukraine. That excuse imploded when Putin’s forces were revealed not to be self-proclaimed “Nazi-hunters” but reincarnated Nazis committing war crimes and crimes against humanity at will in Bucha, Kharkiv and even in Azov. Then the excuse was that Ukraine lost the right to sovereignty because, ostensibly, Kyiv fought to defend its sovereignty.
Now it is Satanism.
Pivoting to this latest justification closely ties into Putin’s need to maintain the unwavering support of the Russian Orthodox Church. Not only is its leader, Patriarch Kirill I, providing “spiritual cover” for his war in Ukraine, the church itself is arguably the “core” of Putin’s domestic support.
Satanism is also Putin’s means to an end of simultaneously declaring jihad throughout Christendom and among Islamic extremists.
During his speech, Putin kept hammering on the theme of a decadent, immoral West and pitted it as a collective culture undermining the values of the Muslim world. Indeed, he claimed, it is one that is intent on destroying the Muslim world — and its values — as evidenced by U.S. military actions in Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
Putin’s pairing of Russian Christendom and extremist Islam in this new jihad against the West is not without precedent. It is rooted in his earliest interactions with Syria and its president, Bashar al-Assad. The Russian Orthodox Church, “a key unifier” in Russia and “central to his grip on power” has fully embraced Putin as “the savior of the Christian world.” Two holy sites significant to the church and Russian history are located in Syria: Maaloula, one of the remaining few cities that still speaks Aramaic — the language of Jesus — and Palmyra.
Palmyra is noteworthy because Catherine the Great idolized Zenobia, the “3rd-century queen of Palmyra,” and Catherine modeled her 18th-century court in St. Petersburg after the Syrian city. Notably, St. Petersburg is still referred to as “the Palmyra of the North.” Czarist history matters to Putin. He uses it to justify wars and land grabs.
More at https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3709926-vladimir-putins-
jihad-against-the-west/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:There are other Russians deserving release from prison. Alexei Navalny, for example. On 2 February a Moscow court jailed Navalny for violating the terms of a 2014 suspended sentence for fraud.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
HEY LOOK EVERYBODY. THE LEGACY MEDIA GOT SECOND TO DEFEND RUSSIA AND A RUSSIAN.
You are too stupid for words.
I'm fuckin' done with you today.
The case against him was based on his failure to report regularly to police during 2020. His legal team said that was absurd, as the authorities knew full well he was getting emergency treatment in Berlin for the Novichok nerve agent attack in Siberia. He reminded the court he had been in a coma during part of that time. Navalny argued that between January and August 2020, before the poisoning, he had reported to police twice a month. He dismissed the fraud case as fabricated in order to silence him.
That 2014 fraud conviction itself was condemned in 2016 by the European Court of Human Rights, which found that Navalny's rights had been violated, and it ordered Russia to pay him and Oleg compensation. But later the Russian Supreme Court upheld the conviction.
More about Putin's animosity toward Navalny at https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-16057045
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, after a couple of days away from this website, SECOND fades to insignificance. And I realized that the reason why SECOND keeps banging in and on about stuff nobody believes anymore (besides being a troll) is bc he's a pathetic man, empty of any emotional center to his life except this moribund website.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
Yup. That about sums Second up.
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Quote:I knew many people before they started making excuses for Trump, such as 6ix and Signym do ("Trump will be fine.") Every last one of them was struggling with life in America, mostly because their behavior was ineffectual. Highly defective would describe some of them. Trump gave such people new hope that they would not have to behave better to do better. It was a false hope that success eventually springs from the freedom to do whatever you want, regardless of how selfish, stupid, drunk, dishonest, cowardly, crooked, confused, lazy, gluttonous, and directionless you are. Somehow they can't absorbed the idea that behaving badly will end badly. Trump and Putin have gotten away with bad behavior. Why can't Trumptards?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. That about sums Second up.
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OMG. Somebody throw that broken record in the landfill already.
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