Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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UPDATED: Monday, September 14, 2026 21:42
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Quote:6ix, yesterday, admitted to being defective, but claims he has overcome his defects. Ha! Ha! Actually, he hasn't. He remains unemployed:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OMG. Somebody throw that broken record in the landfill already.
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Quote:The whole statement is here http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=11662
And if you drink too much. Drink less. And if you play video games too much. Play less video games. And if you watch too much TV. Watch less TV.
White men today aren't dropping out of the workforce merely because of the financial reasons listed above, although I'm sure that working at Wal-Mart stocking shelves for a pittance at 30 years old isn't helping. They're among the two and going on three generations of divorced white families who's lives were trashed at a young age because their selfish and idiot parents should have never married in the first place.
They're lost. They had no role models at home, and there are no good male role models on TV for them to try to emulate either. They need an anchor. Many of them just need to find a reason to live.
It's out there. If you look for it.
I wish you all luck.
I can't give any advice to you beyond that, because trust me... You don't want to find the reason to live via the same means that I did.
All I can tell you is that when you find it, it's going to be a great feeling to have a reason to get out of bed every morning to face the challenges ahead of you for the day that doesn't involve hacking and slashing Orcs and Dragons with your fake online friends.
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Russian troops discuss mass exodus from frontline in leaked calls as Putin faces mutiny
An intercepted phone call between a furious Russian soldier and his mother reveals that conditions on the frontline are rapidly deteriorating for Vladimir Putin's men. The recent phone call, shared by CNN, signalled a growing move among Russian troops towards fleeing the military and its war in Ukraine. Vladimir Putin admitted on Wednesday that there are "problems with equipment" for Russian troops.
This follows concerns that ill-equipped Russian soldiers, already suffering from low morale, face a gruelling and freezing winter in Ukraine as temperatures drop below zero.
Laying out the conditions on the frontlines, a soldier told his mother back in Russia: "Leaving, leaving, people are leaving."
The mother responds: "Leaving? Like running away?"
The soldier confirms: "Yes running away, what else?
"Five f****** days under pouring rain, with no sleep."
The intercepted call continued as the worried mother told her son: "That's deserting, watch out."
However, the fed-up soldier was defiant, telling her: "If they don't let us leave in December, we will go away too.
"You just can't imagine, we live in a swamp.
"Everything is leaking, we have no sleep, no food, nothing!"
On Wednesday, President Putin told reporters: "Regarding the problem with equipment as far as I can tell, this has already been sorted out.
"However, if something else needs our special attention somewhere, of course, I would ask for more information. Then we will deal with it."
Discussing President Putin's recent remarks and the intercepted call, CNN's Erin Burnett told viewers: "Putin has his back pressed firmly up against the wall because he knows his invasion has not gone according to plan.
"An admission of problems with equipment, as soft as that admission may feel, for Putin to say that is a big deal.
"He is forced to admit it because of what his troops are seeing each day."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-troops-discuss-mass-exodu
s-from-frontline-in-leaked-calls-as-putin-faces-mutiny/ar-AA1555ob
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Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday that the Russian invasion of Ukraine could "end tomorrow" if there were a "political will" on the part of Kiev and ruled out talks on further annexations of territories for the time being.
Peskov pointed out that if the Ukrainian president, Volodimir Zelenski, "had that desire", there could be talk of an end to the war, according to information gathered by the Interfax news agency.
"Zelensky knows when all this can end: it can end tomorrow if that's what he wants," he pointed out.
He also ruled out the annexation of new territories in the area affected by the Russian "military operation", as Moscow refers to the invasion, and indicated that "there are no doubts about it". "At least there are no communiqués on this issue. However, there is still a lot of work to be done to liberate these territories," he has maintained.
"We know that in a large number of new regions of Russia there are occupied territories that have to be liberated," he asserted before insisting that one of the objectives of the Russian military intervention is "to protect the population living in the southeast of Ukraine, in the Donbas."
Therefore, he stressed that "to protect these people, the territories have to be formed, so they had to be annexed with a referendum". "This is what the president (Vladimir Putin) has been talking about," he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-ukraine-invasion-coul
d-end-tomorrow-and-rules-out-talks-on-further-annexations/ar-AA1530JE
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Russia has claimed the war could “end tomorrow” if Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky orders a retreat from territories within Putin’s recently-annexed four regions in the southeast. In comments tantamount to blaming Ukraine for defending its own territory, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov suggested the Ukrainian Armed Forces were preventing a ceasefire by continuing to liberate cities across the front line. On Wednesday, Vladimir Putin labelled the annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia and Kherson as a “significant result”, with Peskov subsequently suggesting the aims of the Russian army were to “protect” those within those regions.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1707328/Russian-invasion-of-Ukrai
ne-Dmitry-Peskov-Vladimir-Putin
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Slovakia's Foreign Minister Rastislav Kacer on Thursday warned those who are in favor of negotiating an end to the war with Russia without taking into account Ukraine's demands, that something similar happened with Adolf Hitler and that "led to the destruction of Czechoslovakia and World War II".
"What Russia is doing in Ukraine was not, is not, and will never be acceptable," the head of Slovak diplomacy remarked during a joint press conference in Kiev with his Ukrainian counterpart, Dimitro Kuleba.
"To those who say that 'we want peace, we are for negotiations', we always say that we have already experienced that with Hitler (...) We know that this led to the destruction of the then Czechoslovakia, the beginning of the Second World War, and the loss of tens of millions of people," he has warned.
"We will never repeat this. We have learned the lessons of history and I will support you until the end," Kacer emphasized, who has bet that it is Ukraine who will decide on what terms the war should end.
In this sense, Kacer pointed out that the version that should prevail is "Ukrainian peace", with which "it will restore its borders and completely recover its sovereign territory". However, he explained, that even under these terms, "this is not final".
"This will happen when Russia will not pose a threat to the international community and when Ukraine will become a full participant in all important European meetings," he has remarked.
This week the Slovak government approved a new package of military aid to Ukraine, including not only weapons and combat vehicles but also equipment for Ukrainian forces.
https://www.news360.es/usa/2022/12/08/slovakia-compares-negotiating-pe
ace-with-russia-to-the-dialogues-with-hitler-that-led-to-wwii-2/
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Originally posted by second:
Slovakia's Foreign Minister Rastislav Kacer on Thursday warned those who are in favor of negotiating an end to the war with Russia without taking into account Ukraine's demands, that something similar happened with Adolf Hitler and that "led to the destruction of Czechoslovakia and World War II".
"What Russia is doing in Ukraine was not, is not, and will never be acceptable," the head of Slovak diplomacy remarked during a joint press conference in Kiev with his Ukrainian counterpart, Dimitro Kuleba.
"To those who say that 'we want peace, we are for negotiations', we always say that we have already experienced that with Hitler (...) We know that this led to the destruction of the then Czechoslovakia, the beginning of the Second World War, and the loss of tens of millions of people," he has warned.
"We will never repeat this. We have learned the lessons of history and I will support you until the end," Kacer emphasized, who has bet that it is Ukraine who will decide on what terms the war should end.
In this sense, Kacer pointed out that the version that should prevail is "Ukrainian peace", with which "it will restore its borders and completely recover its sovereign territory". However, he explained, that even under these terms, "this is not final".
"This will happen when Russia will not pose a threat to the international community and when Ukraine will become a full participant in all important European meetings," he has remarked.
This week the Slovak government approved a new package of military aid to Ukraine, including not only weapons and combat vehicles but also equipment for Ukrainian forces.
https://www.news360.es/usa/2022/12/08/slovakia-compares-negotiating-pe
ace-with-russia-to-the-dialogues-with-hitler-that-led-to-wwii-2/
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The stones on that guy.
Found an answer to one of the questions I've been wondering about:
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Quote:The Russian Air Force would give its maximum to defend Mother Russia. Despite Putin claiming Ukraine is an existential threat to Russia, the Air Force knows this war is no more than Putin glorifying himself. Therefore, the Air Force will give the minimum. This is because stupid people can't get into the Air Force. Instead, it is the Russian Army for them.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
The stones on that guy.
Found an answer to one of the questions I've been wondering about:
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, yesterday, admitted to being defective, but claims he has overcome his defects. Ha! Ha! Actually, he hasn't. He remains unemployed:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
OMG. Somebody throw that broken record in the landfill already.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.Quote:The whole statement is here http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=11662
And if you drink too much. Drink less. And if you play video games too much. Play less video games. And if you watch too much TV. Watch less TV.
White men today aren't dropping out of the workforce merely because of the financial reasons listed above, although I'm sure that working at Wal-Mart stocking shelves for a pittance at 30 years old isn't helping. They're among the two and going on three generations of divorced white families who's lives were trashed at a young age because their selfish and idiot parents should have never married in the first place.
They're lost. They had no role models at home, and there are no good male role models on TV for them to try to emulate either. They need an anchor. Many of them just need to find a reason to live.
It's out there. If you look for it.
I wish you all luck.
I can't give any advice to you beyond that, because trust me... You don't want to find the reason to live via the same means that I did.
All I can tell you is that when you find it, it's going to be a great feeling to have a reason to get out of bed every morning to face the challenges ahead of you for the day that doesn't involve hacking and slashing Orcs and Dragons with your fake online friends.
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The whole statement, which you stripped of all context by only posting the 2nd half of it and neglecting to post the article that preceded it are at the link above.
I'm not unemployed. Joe Biden* wouldn't tell you that I'm unemployed. You have to be filing for unemployment benefits to be unemployed.
I don't work, son. Not for money. I don't have to.
How's work going today, honey? I slept in.
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Quote:Do the unemployed become employed when their benefits end? No, 6ix. Your "definition" of employed is flawed. Workers in most states are eligible for up to 26 weeks of benefits from the regular state-funded unemployment compensation program, although ten states provide fewer weeks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not unemployed. Joe Biden* wouldn't tell you that I'm unemployed. You have to be filing for unemployment benefits to be unemployed.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/how-many-weeks-of-unemployment-c
ompensation-are-available
I'm collecting $4,555 per month from Social Security Retirement. Does that mean I am retired? No, 6ix, I am working.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Do the unemployed become employed when their benefits end? No, 6ix. Your "definition" of employed is flawed. Workers in most states are eligible for up to 26 weeks of benefits from the regular state-funded unemployment compensation program, although ten states provide fewer weeks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not unemployed. Joe Biden* wouldn't tell you that I'm unemployed. You have to be filing for unemployment benefits to be unemployed.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/how-many-weeks-of-unemployment-c
ompensation-are-available
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I didn't give a definition of employed. I simply pointed out that since I wasn't filing for or collecting unemployment benefits that I am not considered by the government to be unemployed. Joe Biden* likes that. One less person bumping up his unemployment numbers.
If there's any flaw here, it's the government's definition of unemployed that is flawed, which is an argument I've made in the past several times in the RWED boards.
I also didn't make any claim that I was currently employed or unemployed.
I'm neither employed nor unemployed. I'm retired with hobbies.
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Originally posted by second:
I'm collecting $4,555 per month from Social Security Retirement. Does that mean I am retired? No, 6ix, I am working.
Oh... And that's cute. You got that number for the maximum benefits paid out when retiring at 70 from here:
https://www.bankrate.com/retirement/average-monthly-social-security-ch
eck/
Yanno... The same very same article that Google used to misrepresent what the average SS payout for retiring at 62 was when they instead gave you the the maximum number and fooled you into posting something stupid just yesterday right here:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65414&mid=11662
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Since the average Social Security check at age 62 is $2,572
No it isn't dummy, but I know exactly how you got that. Looks like Google lied to you again.
Click on the bankrate.com article that Google used to provide those fake numbers and actually read it.
The Average check today for ALL recipients, of any age, including disability payments and survivor benefits payments is only $1,550.48.
Here's the part that Google grabbed and presented as the answer to your question:Quote:
The maximum initial monthly benefit for 2023 by retirement age:
At age 62: $2,572
At age 65: $3,279
At age 66: $3,506
At age 70: $4,555
These figures assume a worker had steady earnings at the maximum taxable level since age 22. For 2023, maximum taxable income is $160,200, a number that usually rises each year.
This isn't only hilarious, but is a great example of how you lack any critical thinking skills whatsoever, and why it is so easy for the Legacy Media to make you believe whatever they tell you to.
Have a nice day!
This ain't the real world where you can lie to people all day long in person and there's no receipts of you lying and/or all the dumb shit you say dude.
We know nothing about you dude. Nobody believes anybody who tells the world that they're perfect and always right and always better than everybody around them, both online and in real life.
I know I'm a flawed individual. Perhaps even deeper than the Median person is.
And even with all the things that I have been doing right and all the improvements I've been making for myself and those that I care about, I'm not shy about admitting my current shortcomings, both IRL and right here on these boards. Something you know full well because you live for reading my posts and saving them to try to embarrass me when you think you've somehow got the upper hand because of something I've posted previously.
SPOILER ALERT: You can't embarrass me. You can't even attempt to talk down to me. You're nothing but a lying little worm of an indeterminate age with a grand old fake online persona you've made for yourself.
You are not only nothing to me, but you are nothing to yourself... which is the saddest part about all of this.
And I never said I wasn't working. More often than not I'm keeping myself busy working on one thing or another. I just don't care about money beyond what I need to live, and I've made saving and spending wisely into an art-form over the last two decades.
I don't have to give my time away for a pittance or have to answer to any terrible bosses anymore, yanno... like the fake one you've made for your garbage online persona right here in the RWED.
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Russia has claimed the war could "end tomorrow" if Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky orders a retreat from territories within Putin's recently-annexed four regions in the southeast.
In comments tantamount to blaming Ukraine for defending its own territory, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov suggested the Ukrainian Armed Forces were preventing a ceasefire by continuing to liberate cities across the front line.
Speaking to reporters on Thursday, Peskov was asked about when the "special military operation" in Ukraine would end in light of comments by Mr Zelensky that the war would be over by 2023.
Peskov said: "You can speculate until blue in the face when it all can end. Zelensky knows when it all might end, it all might end tomorrow if he wishes."
The Kremlin spokesman then said in "Russia's new regions", there were "occupied territories that will have to be liberated".
Peskov was suggesting that Ukrainian forces, in reclaiming land occupied by Russia earlier this year, were themselves occupying this territory against the will of its residents.
Repeating Putin's suggestion that Russian forces were "protecting" the people of Donbas and "southeastern Ukraine", citing sham referendums as proof of their desire to be within Russia as oppose to Ukraine, Peskov called on the Ukraine forces to give back the territory to Russia.
On February 24, when the invasion was initiated, Putin made no mention of these territories, rather he said the reason behind the move was "the protection of people who have been subjected to abuse, genocide by the Kiev regime for eight years". He added that Moscow's plans "do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories".
Infuriated Russian commentator Boris Rozhin, known as 'ColonelCassad' on Telegram and who has more than 800,000 followers, stated that "the annexation of Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts was not among the declared goals of the special military operation on February 24".
Other bloggers suggested Putin's redefinition of the objectives and the admission that this will be a long occupation reflected the fact that he does not have the capacity to continue pursuing his maximalist goals, forcing the Kremlin to accept protracted war as the means to wear down Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kremlin-claims-that-russia-might-
end-war-even-tomorrow-but-there-is-one-condition/ar-AA154VE1
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Igor Girkin is a former Russian military commander who led the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Girkin wrote:
In most parts of the Russian Federation Armed Forces, soldiers and officers do not understand in the name of what, for what, and with what purposes they are fighting.
It's a mystery for them what is the condition for victory or just a condition for ending the war.
The authorities of the Russian Federation are not able to explain this to them, since setting a clear goal for the SMO [Special Military Operation] means 'limiting room for maneuver' — that is, losing the opportunity to declare the goals of the SMO as achieved at any moment that the Kremlin leaders consider convenient.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex-russian-operative-who-visited-
the-front-in-ukraine-says-russian-troops-are-in-disarray-due-to-a-crisis-of-strategic-planning/ar-AA152azR
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I have never seen anyone virtue-signal so hard as SECOND. It's like he has to justify his existence to himself and everybody else.
If he's as successful as he says he is, then he won the energy-speculation lottery. He should be smiling every day about his good fortune.
Instead, he's a miserable little shit and a malicious twerp. He must really despise himself.
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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have never seen anyone virtue-signal so hard as SECOND. It's like he has to justify his existence to himself and everybody else.
If he's as successful as he says he is, then he won the energy-speculation lottery. He should be smiling every day about his good fortune.
Instead, he's a miserable little shit and a malicious twerp. He must really despise himself.
And I always just thought he liked to argue.
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Quote:He likes to threaten, harass (IRL), libel, lie, insult, and bob and weave.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have never seen anyone virtue-signal so hard as SECOND. It's like he has to justify his existence to himself and everybody else.
If he's as successful as he says he is, then he won the energy-speculation lottery. He should be smiling every day about his good fortune.
Instead, he's a miserable little shit and a malicious twerp. He must really despise himself.
And I always just thought he liked to argue.
T
That's not arguing. Arguing is when you assemble your facts and use facts and logic to dispute another's position, or posit one of your own
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Quote:Yes, you have. Putin was signaling a lack of virtue:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have never seen anyone virtue-signal so hard as SECOND.
Vladimir Putin has warned that any country that attacks Russia would be “wiped off the face of the Earth”.
The Russia president issued his latest threat to the West at the Eurasian Economic Union summit in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan on Friday.
Mr Putin also said that Moscow could adopt what he described as a “US concept” of using preemptive military strikes, in a blunt statement amid rising Russia-NATO tensions over Ukraine.
It comes as Russian forces placed Grad multiple-launch-rocket systems on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant’s territory, according to Ukraine’s nuclear energy operator.
The rocket launchers are next to spent nuclear fuel storage units near the plant’s sixth reactor, it said, and are likely to be used to strike cities on the opposite side of the Dnipro River, using the reactor and fuel storage as a “shelter” from return fire, according to Energoatom.
Russia’s move violated conditions for nuclear and radiation safety, the company said in its statement, which was backed by several Ukrainian ministers.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-news-%E2%80%93-live-russi
a-installs-multiple-launch-rocket-systems-at-nuclear-power-plant/ar-AA154OMn
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Quote:Vladimir Putin appears ‘drunk’ as he charges Ukraine for attacks
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
He likes to threaten, harass (IRL), libel, lie, insult, and bob and weave.
That's not arguing. Arguing is when you assemble your facts and use facts and logic to dispute another's position, or posit one of your own
Friday 9 December 2022 04:19 , Arpan Rai
Vladimir Putin has accused Ukraine of initiating attacks on civilian infrastructure in the ongoing invasion by Moscow.
“There’s a lot of noise right now about our strikes against the energy infrastructure of the neighbouring country,” Mr Putin said at a state awards ceremony where he appeared with a glass of a sparkling beverage.
Swaying from one side to another, he said: “Yes, we are doing it, but who started it? Who struck the Crimean bridge?”.
Economist and author Anders Aslund said: “This is the first time that I have seen Putin seeming drunk in any context. He talks nonsense as usual, but he seems to realise that he is a loser. Very interesting & promising. All Russians will see that he is drunk & weak.”
“Putin, clearly drunk at today’s Russian military awards ceremony, gets his Kremlin propaganda lies mixed up - it’s supposed to be Crimea that Ukraine denied water to, not Donetsk,” said Ukrainian editor and journalist Euan MacDonald.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-news-%E2%80%93-live-russi
a-installs-multiple-launch-rocket-systems-at-nuclear-power-plant/ar-AA154OMn
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Ukrainians aren’t delighted about sharing their Nobel peace prize
Many resent being lumped in the same basket as Russia and Belarus.
by Veronika Melkozerova, December 9, 2022 6:57 pm CET
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-share-nobel-peace-prize-russia
-berit-reiss-andersen/
OSLO — Ukrainians are happy about winning their first Nobel prize since independence, but it stings that they’ll be sharing the limelight on Saturday with fellow laureates from Russia and Belarus.
It’s clear what the Norwegian Nobel committee is seeking to achieve by sharing the peace prize between civil society activists from three nations locked in a war, with Committee Chairman Berit Reiss-Andersen admitting the committee wanted to send a signal that the conflict in Ukraine must end.
In order to send this message, it has awarded the prize jointly to Russia’s now disbanded Memorial Center, jailed Belarusian opposition activist Ales Bialiatsky and Ukrainian human rights watchdog Center for Civil Liberties, which documents Russian war crimes in Ukraine.
From the Ukrainian perspective, however, it leaves a bitter taste that activists in their country — on a very different, democratic political trajectory from Moscow and Minsk — are still lumped together in the post-Soviet sphere with campaigners tackling the regimes of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Belarus’ Alexander Lukashenko.
Mykhailo Podolyak, adviser to the Ukrainian presidential office, complained the joint prize boosted the Kremlin’s narrative about the war and Putin’s claims of the unity of Russian and Ukrainian people.
“Awarding three human rights organizations from three countries does not answer the question of protecting peace, but openly promotes the destructive thesis about the same notorious ‘trinity of the Slavic peoples’ that Russian propaganda constantly talks about in global public opinion,” he told POLITICO.
He explained that Moscow sought to portray the people of the three countries as wanting peace but being prevented from reaching a truce by non-Slavic countries. He also issued a criticism that, while Ukrainians were fighting for survival, civil society groups in Russia and Belarus were largely shying away from active actions against the invasion.
“This is an extremely insensitive move at times when Russians are killing Ukrainians with the help of Belarusians,” said Olga Rudenko, chief editor of the Kyiv Independent, and one of the favorites for the 2022 peace prize.
She added all the candidates deserved the award and that Ukrainians would have no problem if each of them got the prize individually. The problem was putting all three together in a year when the nations they represent are riven by a war sparked by Russian colonial ambitions.
“As if the ‘grownup’ West wants to lock us kids in the same room after a fight and order us to make peace,” Rudenko said.
More at https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-share-nobel-peace-prize-russia
-berit-reiss-andersen/
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The Ukrainian 6th Separate Rifle Battalion (SRB) Lost Its First Battle. Then It Got Javelin Missiles.
The 6th SRB formed in May in eastern Ukraine. As early as July, the battalion was in combat in Avdiivka, a settlement in Donetsk Oblast that anchors Ukrainian positions opposite the pro-Russian separatists based in Donetsk city.
The Russians and their separatist allies since February have been trying to capture Avdiivka. The 6th SRB's territorials joined the battle with only light weaponry - and got slaughtered.
In mid-July, former members of the battalion recorded a video blaming Zelensky for their losses. "We as fighters of the territorial defense were illegally sent to the front lines," their spokesman said.
"We lost 70 percent of the personnel," the spokesman continued. "Then we expressed our distrust of the battalion command about the fact that there was an oral order to occupy and hold unequipped positions without heavy equipment and artillery."
The defense ministry in Kyiv apparently internalized this criticism. When the 6th SRB reappeared along the front line around Avdiivka, it was a much more powerful formation. Videos the battalion began posting online in November depict several successful strikes on Russian armored vehicles by 6th SRB troopers firing American-made Javelin anti-tank missiles.
There’s no evidence the 6th SRB possesses any weaponry heavier than a 50-pound Javelin, or any vehicles heavier than a truck. The 6th SRB does however operate the usual bomb-dropping quadcopter drones. As long as the battalion doesn't try to advance long distances while under fire — and so far, it hasn’t - the Javelins and drones might suffice.
Notably, there haven't been any other public protests from the battalion like what occurred in July. The 6th Separate Rifle Battalion still is in the thick of the fighting. But its territorials apparently are confident they can beat the more heavily-armed Russians.
More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-ukrainian-6th-separate-rifle-
battalion-lost-its-first-battle-then-it-got-javelin-missiles/ar-AA155Fef
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War has tamed Ukraine’s oligarchs, creating space for democratic change
Ukraine may have the opportunity to rebuild a postwar society that is more democratic, less corrupt, and more economically diversified
By Kevin Sullivan, David L. Stern and Kostiantyn Khudov
December 8, 2022 at 1:00 a.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/12/08/ukraine-oligarchs-powe
r-war/
BURSHTYN, Ukraine — Over two days in October, eight Russian cruise missiles screamed out of the sky and obliterated tens of millions of dollars’ worth of critical machinery at this city’s hulking coal-fired power plant.
The attacks were designed to leave Ukraine cold and dark this winter. But they also deepened a financial crisis for the plant’s owner, Rinat Akhmetov, the country’s richest man.
Akhmetov’s wealth has dived from $7.6 billion to $4.3 billion since Russia invaded Ukraine in February, according to Forbes. In 2012, before Russia annexed Crimea and backed separatists in Ukraine’s east, locations where Akhmetov also had numerous assets, the magazine estimated his wealth at $16 billion.
The losses are largely from Russia’s destruction and confiscation of his vast networks of power and steel plants, coal mines and agricultural operations. Most notable were his two huge steel plants in the port city of Mariupol, including Azovstal, where Ukrainian fighters staged a defiant last stand against Russian forces earlier this year. Akhmetov is suing Russia for up to $20 billion in the European Court of Human Rights.
One billionaire becoming less of a billionaire isn’t breaking hearts in a country fighting a war for its very existence. But it provides some insight into how the Russian invasion is affecting Ukraine’s oligarchs, a group of fewer than 20 fantastically wealthy people who have wielded outsize — and often, anti-corruption activists contend, malign — influence over Ukraine’s politics, economy and society since the country’s independence in 1991.
In Kherson city, sympathies for Russia complicate reintegration into Ukraine
In interviews with more than two dozen current and former Ukrainian and U.S. officials, analysts and others, nearly all agreed that the dominant power of oligarchs in Ukrainian life has been diminished. They cited vast losses from the war, growing government pressure and a newly energized population no longer willing to tolerate the politics of the past. They said that could give Ukraine the opportunity to rebuild a postwar society that is more democratic, less corrupt and more economically diversified.
“This is the end of an epoch, the end of a political culture,” said Viktor Andrusiv, a former adviser to Andriy Yermak, President Volodymyr Zelensky’s top aide, who has written extensively about Ukraine’s oligarchs and is now fighting on the front lines in the Ukrainian army.
Akhmetov, in exchanges with The Washington Post over WhatsApp, also said he supports economic diversification. Asked about his vision of Ukraine after the war, he called for a “new Marshall Plan” of hundreds of billions of dollars in investment and a country remade in the image of the West, not Russia.
“The goal is to build a new, strong, and European Ukraine, a member of the [European Union], with strong institutions, the rule of law, clear anti-corruption rules, a democratic political system, and fair treatment of citizens,” said Akhmetov, who declined an in-person interview but answered written questions.
Pressure on oligarchs had already been building before Russia’s invasion, with a “de-oligarchization” law promoted by Zelensky that took effect this year. The law places limits on the political activity of super-rich individuals who meet certain criteria, including those who have major holdings in television and other media to press their financial interests and political agenda. The Zelensky government is also crafting antitrust measures to crack down on monopolies controlled by oligarchs in areas from coal mining to electricity to railroads.
“The system was so strong and wel
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Keep burying your last bullshit little argument that you started and lost, like all the of the other arguments you lose when you try to get personal with me, you little worm.
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Keep burying your last bullshit little argument that you started and lost, like all the of the other arguments you lose when you try to get personal with me, you little worm.
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19#1166319 does not make good sense. My opinion is that most of what you do, 6ix, is not what a sensible person does. That is true about Russians, too. Their whole history does not make much sense, but I don't think they could do better. They are not mentally tough enough to be anywhere other than right in the middle of the messiness, stupidness and preposterousness they create for themselves. It is awe inspiring how Russians are unconscious about being half-asses at life. If Russians can't get their shit together, they will shame themself for all time in Ukraine. But being unconscious, most Russians won't notice. The few Russians that do notice will emigrate and start over somewhere better than Russia.
5 Million Russian Citizens Left Russia Under Putin
Young, well-educated Russians are seeking a better life abroad.
By Uliana Pavlova
Updated: Oct. 13, 2021
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/10/13/5-million-russian-citizens-l
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My opinion is that most of what you do, 6ix, is not what a sensible person does.
Nobody gives one single fuck about your opinion.
Back to this. We're not done here.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Do the unemployed become employed when their benefits end? No, 6ix. Your "definition" of employed is flawed. Workers in most states are eligible for up to 26 weeks of benefits from the regular state-funded unemployment compensation program, although ten states provide fewer weeks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not unemployed. Joe Biden* wouldn't tell you that I'm unemployed. You have to be filing for unemployment benefits to be unemployed.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/how-many-weeks-of-unemployment-c
ompensation-are-available
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I didn't give a definition of employed. I simply pointed out that since I wasn't filing for or collecting unemployment benefits that I am not considered by the government to be unemployed. Joe Biden* likes that. One less person bumping up his unemployment numbers.
If there's any flaw here, it's the government's definition of unemployed that is flawed, which is an argument I've made in the past several times in the RWED boards.
I also didn't make any claim that I was currently employed or unemployed.
I'm neither employed nor unemployed. I'm retired with hobbies.
AND
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I'm collecting $4,555 per month from Social Security Retirement. Does that mean I am retired? No, 6ix, I am working.
Oh... And that's cute. You got that number for the maximum benefits paid out when retiring at 70 from here:
https://www.bankrate.com/retirement/average-monthly-social-security-ch
eck/
Yanno... The same very same article that Google used to misrepresent what the average SS payout for retiring at 62 was when they instead gave you the the maximum number and fooled you into posting something stupid just yesterday right here:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65414&mid=11662
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Since the average Social Security check at age 62 is $2,572
No it isn't dummy, but I know exactly how you got that. Looks like Google lied to you again.
Click on the bankrate.com article that Google used to provide those fake numbers and actually read it.
The Average check today for ALL recipients, of any age, including disability payments and survivor benefits payments is only $1,550.48.
Here's the part that Google grabbed and presented as the answer to your question:Quote:
The maximum initial monthly benefit for 2023 by retirement age:
At age 62: $2,572
At age 65: $3,279
At age 66: $3,506
At age 70: $4,555
These figures assume a worker had steady earnings at the maximum taxable level since age 22. For 2023, maximum taxable income is $160,200, a number that usually rises each year.
This isn't only hilarious, but is a great example of how you lack any critical thinking skills whatsoever, and why it is so easy for the Legacy Media to make you believe whatever they tell you to.
Have a nice day!
This ain't the real world where you can lie to people all day long in person and there's no receipts of you lying and/or all the dumb shit you say dude.
We know nothing about you dude. Nobody believes anybody who tells the world that they're perfect and always right and always better than everybody around them, both online and in real life.
I know I'm a flawed individual. Perhaps even deeper than the Median person is.
And even with all the things that I have been doing right and all the improvem
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Quote:6ix, you share characteristics with Putin and Trump. All three of you are belligerent, obnoxious, and stupid. Putin showed that side of himself only after he was in power. Trump has always shown it, but he has been protected by the best lawyers money can buy. When the average Trumptard, unprotected by power and money, displays belligerency, obnoxiousness, and stupidity, the Trumptard gets fired, gets kicked out of their relationships, or falls into various troubles that they will blame on the Democrats rather than their stupidity. The average Russian does the same: it is the Democrats' fault our mighty military is losing in Ukraine. Nuke the USA!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you don't want to talk about yourself and your lies in Russia threads, than you'd be advised to stop pulling my personal life out of context into your puny little dick-brained "arguments".
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He likes to threaten, harass (IRL), libel, lie, insult, and bob and weave.
That's not arguing. Arguing is when you assemble your facts and use facts and logic to dispute another's position, or posit one of your own
SECOND: Vladimir Putin appears ‘drunk’ as he charges Ukraine for attacks
Friday 9 December 2022 04:19 , Arpan Rai
Vladimir Putin has accused Ukraine of initiating attacks on civilian infrastructure in the ongoing invasion by Moscow.
“There’s a lot of noise right now about our strikes against the energy infrastructure of the neighbouring country,” Mr Putin said at a state awards ceremony where he appeared with a glass of a sparkling beverage.
Swaying from one side to another, he said: “Yes, we are doing it, but who started it? Who struck the Crimean bridge?”.
Economist and author Anders Aslund said: “This is the first time that I have seen Putin seeming drunk in any context. He talks nonsense as usual, but he seems to realise that he is a loser. Very interesting & promising. All Russians will see that he is drunk & weak.”
“Putin, clearly drunk at today’s Russian military awards ceremony, gets his Kremlin propaganda lies mixed up - it’s supposed to be Crimea that Ukraine denied water to, not Donetsk,” said Ukrainian editor and journalist Euan MacDonald.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-news-%E2%80%93-live-russi
a-installs-multiple-launch-rocket-systems-at-nuclear-power-plant/ar-AA154OMn
Quote:. And that includes posting M$M disinformation.
SIGNY: He likes to threaten, harass (IRL), libel, lie, insult, and bob and weave.
That's not arguing. Arguing is when you assemble your facts and use facts and logic to dispute another's position, or posit one of your own
You're a miserable hate-filled little man, SECOND.
Get help.
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Yeah. It must be painful to be Second.
I had a great day today. How about you Sigs?
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Yeah. It must be painful to be Second.
I had a great day today. How about you Sigs?
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We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.
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Quote:Is the Russian Nobel Peace Prize laureate a miserable hate-filled little man, Signym?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And that includes posting M$M disinformation.
You're a miserable hate-filled little man, SECOND.
Get help.
Russian Nobel Peace Prize laureate Yan Rachinsky blasted President Vladimir Putin’s “insane and criminal” war on Ukraine in his acceptance speech in the Norwegian capital Oslo on Saturday.
Rachinsky, from Russia’s human rights organization Memorial, claimed resistance to Russia is known as “fascism” under Putin, adding this has become “the ideological justification for the insane and criminal war of aggression against Ukraine.”
Memorial, one of Russia’s most well-known and respected human rights groups, worked to expose the abuses and atrocities of the Stalinist era for more than three decades before it was ordered to close by the country’s Supreme Court late last year. https://www.memo.ru/en-us/ https://memohrc.org/en
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/10/europe/russian-nobel-peace-laureate-sla
ms-putin-war-intl/index.html
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Quote:Here is a warm memory for you. The Russian Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1975 had similar problems with the Kremlin as does the 2022 winner.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Sakharov#Attacked_by_Soviet_estab
lishment_from_1972
The Russian co-winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize has said Kremlin authorities told him to turn down the award.
Yan Rachinsky, who heads Memorial, said he was told not to accept the prize because the two other co-laureates - a Ukrainian human rights organisation and jailed Belarusian rights defender - were deemed "inappropriate".
Memorial is one of Russia's oldest civil rights groups, and was shut down by the government last year.
In an exclusive interview with the BBC's HARDtalk programme, Mr Rachinsky said his organisation had been advised to decline the award, but "naturally, we took no notice of this advice".
Despite threats to his safety, Mr Rachinsky said the work of Memorial remained essential.
"In today's Russia, no-one's personal safety can be guaranteed," he said. "Yes, many have been killed. But we know what impunity of the state leads to… We need to get out of this pit somehow."
Memorial has documented historical Soviet repression.
Its first chairman - Arseny Roginsky - was sent to Soviet labour camps for the so-called "anti-communist" study of history.
Announcing the prize winners, the Nobel Committee said that Memorial was founded on the idea that "confronting past crimes is essential in preventing new ones".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63929130
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Yeah. It must be painful to be Second.
I had a great day today. How about you Sigs?
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We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.
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That sounds nice. I hope your plans for the day work out.
I'll be putting my new faux fireplace together so I can show it off when my dad drops by next week and then do a little cleaning around my house today. Probably a light day other than that after some long nights helping my friend paint his basement.
I ate so good yesterday. Have you ever had a Gyro Burger? Damn that was good. Then they got Chick fila for dinner. Never had a chicken sandwich from there before. Wow.
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Putin won't have the excuse for losing Ukraine that the Emperor of Japan had for losing WWII. Maybe Putin will blame NATO?
Put yourself in the shoes of the emperor. You’ve just led your country through a disastrous war. The economy is shattered. Eighty percent of your cities have been bombed and burned. The Army has been pummeled in a string of defeats. The Navy has been decimated and confined to port. Starvation is looming. The war, in short, has been a catastrophe and, worst of all, you’ve been lying to your people about how bad the situation really is. They will be shocked by the news of the surrender. So which would you rather do? Admit that you failed badly? Issue a statement that says that you miscalculated spectacularly, made repeated mistakes, and did enormous damage to the nation? Or would you rather blame the loss on an amazing scientific breakthrough that no one could have predicted? At a single stroke, blaming the loss of the war on the atomic bomb swept all the mistakes and misjudgments of the war under the rug. The Bomb was the perfect excuse for having lost the war. No need to apportion blame; no court of enquiry need be held. Japan’s leaders were able to claim they had done their best. So, at the most general level the Bomb served to deflect blame from Japan’s leaders.
But attributing Japan’s defeat to the Bomb also served other specific political purposes. First, it helped to preserve the legitimacy of the emperor. If the war was lost not because of mistakes but because of the enemy’s unexpected miracle weapon, then the institution of the emperor might continue to find support within Japan.
Second, it appealed to international sympathy. Japan had waged war aggressively, and with particular brutality toward conquered peoples. Its behavior was likely to be condemned by other nations. Being able to recast Japan as a victimized nation — one that had been unfairly bombed with a cruel and horrifying instrument of war — would help to offset some of the morally repugnant things Japan’s military had done. Drawing attention to the atomic bombings helped to paint Japan in a more sympathetic light and deflect support for harsh punishment.
More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-
did/
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. It must be painful to be Second.
I had a great day today. How about you Sigs?
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We had a nice day relaxing together. Tomorrow ... well today, actually... we're supposed to get rain, so I'm goimg to get on the stick and finish cleaning the house. Maybe get a Christmas tree and get one up early for a change. I'm hoping for a nice family Christmas this year. Make warm memories for us.
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That sounds nice. I hope your plans for the day work out.
I'll be putting my new faux fireplace together so I can show it off when my dad drops by next week and then do a little cleaning around my house today. Probably a light day other than that after some long nights helping my friend paint his basement.
I ate so good yesterday. Have you ever had a Gyro Burger? Damn that was good. Then they got Chick fila for dinner. Never had a chicken sandwich from there before. Wow.
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Oh... Right. I have to do laundry today too.
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Quote:Roses are Red
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... Right. I have to do laundry today too.
Life has No Meaning
The Voices in 6ix's Head
Are Constantly Screaming
"Trump will be fine."
- 6ix wrote for the thousandth time
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... Right. I have to do laundry today too.
Life has No Meaning
The Voices in 6ix's Head
Are Constantly Screaming
"Trump will be fine."
- 6ix wrote for the thousandth time
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My life is full of meaning. When I'm not helping friends and family, I'm helping myself.
And for the 1001th time, Trump will be fine.
Have fun with your miserable little Sunday after yet another of your countless wasted weeks doing nothing of importance for yourself or anybody else.
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Putin won't have the excuse for losing Ukraine that the Emperor of Japan had for losing WWII. Maybe Putin will blame NATO?
Put yourself in the shoes of the emperor. You’ve just led your country through a disastrous war. The economy is shattered. Eighty percent of your cities have been bombed and burned. The Army has been pummeled in a string of defeats. The Navy has been decimated and confined to port. Starvation is looming. The war, in short, has been a catastrophe and, worst of all, you’ve been lying to your people about how bad the situation really is. They will be shocked by the news of the surrender. So which would you rather do? Admit that you failed badly? Issue a statement that says that you miscalculated spectacularly, made repeated mistakes, and did enormous damage to the nation? Or would you rather blame the loss on an amazing scientific breakthrough that no one could have predicted? At a single stroke, blaming the loss of the war on the atomic bomb swept all the mistakes and misjudgments of the war under the rug. The Bomb was the perfect excuse for having lost the war. No need to apportion blame; no court of enquiry need be held. Japan’s leaders were able to claim they had done their best. So, at the most general level the Bomb served to deflect blame from Japan’s leaders.
But attributing Japan’s defeat to the Bomb also served other specific political purposes. First, it helped to preserve the legitimacy of the emperor. If the war was lost not because of mistakes but because of the enemy’s unexpected miracle weapon, then the institution of the emperor might continue to find support within Japan.
Second, it appealed to international sympathy. Japan had waged war aggressively, and with particular brutality toward conquered peoples. Its behavior was likely to be condemned by other nations. Being able to recast Japan as a victimized nation — one that had been unfairly bombed with a cruel and horrifying instrument of war — would help to offset some of the morally repugnant things Japan’s military had done. Drawing attention to the atomic bombings helped to paint Japan in a more sympathetic light and deflect support for harsh punishment.
More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-
did/
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Maybe Putin will be dead. Maybe he'll fall out of a window or something. He isn't the only one who needs to fall out of a window. Maybe _____ will as well?
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Maybe Putin will be dead. Maybe he'll fall out of a window or something. He isn't the only one who needs to fall out of a window. Maybe _____ will as well?
T
Who Ted?
Fill in that blank. I dare you.
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Quote:The Joker had found his purpose in life and meaning by the end of the movie. 6ix, you could prove you are not the nihilist you once were, the guy who heaped praise on Joker, the movie about the origin of a mass murderer. How to do that? Joker 2 is in production. Avoid that movie when it is in theaters. Don't invite your father to part 2. Don't discuss it on fff.net. Also, stop with the "Fuck Ukraine," which gives away your degenerate state of mind.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My life is full of meaning.
Joker: Folie à Deux
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/joker-2-first-look-todd-phillips-da
y-one-1235456636/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The Joker had found his purpose in life and meaning by the end of the movie. 6ix, you could prove you are not the nihilist you once were, the guy who heaped praise on Joker, the movie about the origin of a mass murderer. How to do that? Joker 2 is in production. Avoid that movie when it is in theaters. Don't invite your father to part 2. Don't discuss it on fff.net. Also, stop with the "Fuck Ukraine," which gives away your degenerate state of mind.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My life is full of meaning.
Well said SECOND, well said.
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Changing Russian goals, strategy and tactics in Ukraine. From SMO and negotiation to winning a war.
How has NATO failed, ideologically, politically, strategically, and militarily
How the USA military needs to be reformed
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Poor signym. She thinks Russia is winning the war. Anybody she would post claiming the same would also have to be nuts.
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Joe Biden* is about to be investigated. His pre-Presidential* ties to Puppet Zelensky will be exposed.
Tick Tock
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Quote:Signym, good job gathering two English-speaking hot air gas bags together. A Russian-speaking gas bag declares Russia will kill everyone who thwarts Putin.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Changing Russian goals, strategy and tactics in Ukraine. From SMO and negotiation to winning a war.
How has NATO failed, ideologically, politically, strategically, and militarily
How the USA military needs to be reformed
Former Russian President and current Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev, has announced that Moscow is increasing "the production of the most powerful means of destruction" amid the invasion of Ukraine, unleashed on February 24 on the orders of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"It is much more difficult for us. Our enemy has entrenched itself not only in Kiev province and in our native Little Russia. They are in Europe, in North America, in Japan, in Australia, in New Zealand in other contemporary Nazi places," he has said.
"That is why we are increasing the production of the most powerful means of destruction, including those based on new principles," Medvedev has noted in a message on his Telegram account in which he has charged those whom he has described as "rabid pseudo-Ukrainian mongrel dogs with Russian surnames."
Thus, he has stated that these people "drown in their toxic saliva and declare that the enemy is on the borders of Russia, from the West to Vladivostok." "Rage has no cure", he concluded.
Medvedev thus referred to the statements of the secretary of the Ukrainian National Security Council, Oleksi Danilov, who said on Saturday that the Ukrainian "enemy" is between the territory of the Donbas and Vladivostok and stressed that Kiev "is not going to ask anyone" before attacking targets on Russian territory.
Medvedev himself said in September that Russia "can use" all types of weaponry in case of threat, including nuclear weapons, adding that the country "has chosen its own path and there is no turning back."
Days later, the former Russian president stressed that "NATO would not intervene directly" in case of Moscow's use of nuclear weapons against "the Ukrainian regime", while defending that Moscow "has the right" to use this weaponry "if necessary".
New Zealanders noticed that Russia threatened to nuke them for being Nazis: https://www.herald.co.zw/russia-increasing-production-of-most-powerful
-means-of-destruction/
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What part of mutually assured destruction do the heads of NATO/EU and Joe Biden*'s administration not understand?
Keep fucking around and they're going to find out.
US 2014 plant and child rapist Zelensky needs to step down.
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Ukraine can win the war. But the cost may be too high for the West
The Wall Street Journal reports:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-and-allies-confront-cost-of-aid-assur
ing-ukraine-victory-over-russia-11670733607?mod=djemalertNEWS
Ukrainian leaders have vowed to retake all territory occupied by Russia, prompting a debate over what would be necessary for Ukraine to win and evict Moscow’s forces.
The answer is primarily military because Russia is only going to abandon its hard-won gains if its troops suffer catastrophic losses, military strategists say. Behind those talks about weapons and ammunition is a deeper political question as Ukraine’s battlefield fortunes rely heavily on the willingness of Western governments to continue their multibillion-dollar military assistance to Kyiv.
And pushing Russian forces out of the entrenched positions they hold in more than 15% of Ukraine’s territory will require an even greater flow of military support—possibly more than the West is willing and able to bear.
Secretary of State Antony Blinken told The Wall Street Journal last Monday that the U.S. would support Kyiv in recovering territory Russia has grabbed since launching its large-scale invasion on Feb. 24, suggesting that Washington might not back Ukraine militarily in retaking areas that Russia seized in 2014, including the Crimean Peninsula.
Other Ukraine allies are adamant that Kyiv must win back all its lands.
“Anything less than a Russian defeat in Ukraine will embolden Moscow and other authoritarian powers,” said Swedish Foreign Minister Tobias Billström during a visit to Washington this past week.
Senior officials from Ukraine’s allies in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization predict the war likely will end at a negotiating table. But “what happens around that table is absolutely linked to the situation on the battlefield,” NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said at a recent meeting of foreign ministers in Bucharest.
“So it may sound like a paradox, but the reality is that the best way to achieve a lasting, durable peace in Ukraine is to provide military support to Ukraine,” he said.
That military support includes urgently needed air-defense systems to protect Ukraine from drones and missiles that Russia is using to demolish Ukraine’s energy infrastructure and threaten to spark a humanitarian crisis as winter sets in. Western governments in Bucharest pledged to deliver more equipment, and faster.
On the more traditional battlefield, Ukraine needs ammunition, weapons systems and more training for troops, as well as nonlethal aid such as medical equipment and body armor. Allies are providing all of those things, but not at levels Ukraine says it needs to achieve more success against Russian troops quickly.
Asked what Kyiv would require to prevail, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba declined to give specifics in Bucharest. “You cannot calculate the amount of weapons needed to win a war,” he said. But in the NATO meetings, which he attended, all allies agreed “that Ukraine has to receive everything that is needed to win,” he said.
A more fundamental issue, diplomats involved in the talks say, is what precisely the various parties mean by winning.
“The West has to ask itself a question: What is the end goal?” Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said after the meetings.
He said U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan had “a very good formula” when he said during the summer that Washington’s goal was to ensure that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine didn’t become a success for President Vladimir Putin, but a strategic failure instead.
“I don’t see a way for Russia to lose strategically and maintain occupied territories,” said Mr. Landsbergis.
More at https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-and-allies-confront-cost-of-aid-assur
ing-ukraine-victory-over-russia-11670733607?mod=djemalertNEWS
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Fuck Ukraine.
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Quote:The mounting cost of furnishing Ukraine with weapons and other supplies is increasingly drawing attention. The U.S. has already provided nearly $32 billion in aid to Ukraine since Moscow’s full-scale invasion in February, including almost $20 billion in arms and other security assistance.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-and-allies-confront-cost-of-aid-assur
ing-ukraine-victory-over-russia-11670733607?mod=djemalertNEWS
The three youtube videos Signym posted have correctly pointed out that the US Military is overfed with taxpayer dollars, yet has underperformed expectations. How much money? In FY 2022, the Department of Defense (DOD) had $1.64 Trillion distributed among its 6 sub-components. Compared to the DOD's spending ($1,640 billion) Ukraine's $32 billion is the epitome of efficiency.
https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/department-of-defense?fy=2022
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A neo-Nazi group fighting on behalf of Russia in Ukraine has called for data on military movements in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, raising concerns over a potential rogue attack on a NATO member state, The Guardian reported.
Task Force Rusich, which has close ties to the Wagner Group paramilitary group and has been highly active in Ukraine, posted the appeal on its official Telegram channel on December 7, the paper reported.
Viewed by more than 60,000 members, the post asked for information regarding border posts, military movements and units in the three former Soviet states, the outlet said. The post asked for specifics on communication towers, security systems, and fuel depots in border areas, per The Guardian.
The move by Rusich could point to disenchantment with the Kremlin and frustration with how Putin’s war in Ukraine is going. The Kremlin could lose control of its far-right Russian paramilitary organisations, which may exploit more extreme methods to pursue the Ukrainian war.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/11/neo-nazi-russian-militia
-appeals-for-intelligence-on-nato-member-states
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Russian forces in Ukraine lost another 24 tanks as of Sunday, according to the latest figures from Ukraine's armed forces, as the total alleged casualty figure for the nine-month old invasion neared 100,000 troops.
Per Ukraine's newest figures released on Monday morning, Russia has now lost 2,966 tanks since Moscow's troops crossed into Ukrainian territory on February 24.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/russia-loses-24-tanks-day-100000-death-toll-n
ears-ukraine-winter-casualties-1766403
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Quote:If drunken ne'er-do-well Hunter Biden goes to jail, it would be great. Republican Congressmen plan on doing to Hunter Biden what they tried doing to Hillary. The 10 year anniversary of Hillary and Benghazi was this year. https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+benghazi
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Joe Biden* is about to be investigated. His pre-Presidential* ties to Puppet Zelensky will be exposed.
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Republican Congressmen sued and investigated and lied their heads off, but Benghazi amounted to nothing more than government employees who should have had a better sense of self-preservation but, either foolishly or optimistically, take your pick, didn't withdraw from Benghazi and got themselves killed while achieving nothing. Despite the fact that 10 investigations were eventually conducted into the Benghazi attacks and the response from U.S. officials — most of which were led by GOP committees — no evidence was found that any top officials in the Obama administration had acted improperly at the time.
https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-blast-obama-clinton-over-benghazi
-10th-anniversary-1741887
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Ben Hodges @general_ben tweeted
Ukr General Staff will continue to pound Russian hq's and lines of communication (logistics) for the next few weeks, thru February, in order to set the conditions for the decisive phase of the campaign, the liberation of Crimea. I expect them to liberate Crimea by August.
5:41 AM · Dec 12, 2022
https://twitter.com/general_ben/status/1602267451093401600
Ben Hodges @general_ben is the former Commanding General USArmyEurope, Senior Advisor for @humanrights1st https://humanrightsfirst.org/
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Quote:Take Crimea by August? Of next year?
Originally posted by second:
Ben Hodges @general_ben tweeted
Ukr General Staff will continue to pound Russian hq's and lines of communication (logistics) for the next few weeks, thru February, in order to set the conditions for the decisive phase of the campaign, the liberation of Crimea. I expect them to liberate Crimea by August.
5:41 AM · Dec 12, 2022
https://twitter.com/general_ben/status/1602267451093401600
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Hahahahaha!!!!!! They won't even be able to fix their electrical grid by then! And by August, Kiev's military will only be a memory.
Jeez, these people are delusional.
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Quote:The Group of Seven (G7) economic powers on Monday pledged to continue helping Ukraine defend itself against Russia's invasion. G7 leaders were joined by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy via videolink during Monday's meeting.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahahahaha!!!!!!
In a joint statement, G7 leaders slammed Moscow's "irresponsible nuclear rhetoric" and said if Russia ever were to use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons it "would be met with severe consequences."
Zelenskyy, during his video address, called on G7 leaders to send more weapons including tanks, rocket artillery and more long-range missiles.
"Unfortunately, Russia still has the advantage in artillery and missiles. This is a fact. These capabilities of the occupying army are the ones to fuel the Kremlin's arrogance," Zelenskyy said.
Expecting bad news for the remainder of 2022, the Kremlin cancels Putin's end-of-year press conference
The Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin will not hold his annual end-of-year press conference this year.
"There will not be [a press conference] before the New Year," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
Peskov gave no reason for the break with tradition at the end of 12 months dominated by Russia's war in Ukraine and sanctions imposed in response by the West.
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine-updates-g7-say-air-defenses-the-i
mmediate-focus/a-64064770
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Quote:Yeah, yeah.
Originally posted by second:Quote:The Group of Seven (G7) economic powers on Monday pledged to continue helping Ukraine defend itself against Russia's invasion. G7 leaders were joined by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy via videolink during Monday's meeting.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahahahaha!!!!!!
In a joint statement, G7 leaders slammed Moscow's "irresponsible nuclear rhetoric" and said if Russia ever were to use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons it "would be met with severe consequences."
Zelenskyy, during his video address, called on G7 leaders to send more weapons including tanks, rocket artillery and more long-range missiles.
"Unfortunately, Russia still has the advantage in artillery and missiles. This is a fact. These capabilities of the occupying army are the ones to fuel the Kremlin's arrogance," Zelenskyy said.
Expecting bad news for the remainder of 2022, the Kremlin cancels Putin's end-of-year press conference
The Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin will not hold his annual end-of-year press conference this year.
"There will not be [a press conference] before the New Year," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
Peskov gave no reason for the break with tradition at the end of 12 months dominated by Russia's war in Ukraine and sanctions imposed in response by the West.
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine-updates-g7-say-air-defenses-the-i
mmediate-focus/a-64064770
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Whatever.
Aside from long distance missiles, possibly nuclear tipped, and/or officially sending NATO troops into Ukraine (there are thousands there unofficially in Kiev uniforms), "the west" has already done pretty much everything they can do. Europe is tapped out, militarily and economically.
Bakhmut will fall within a month. And meanwhile things are going "so well" in Ukraine, the EU and USA are trying to organize a war against Serbia, and China and Saudi Arabia just cut a $40 billion deal.
BTW having seen some videos of Putin, I think he does have some sort of medical problem. But I also think that Russia's future does not hinge on Mr Putin bc he and the rst of the upper ranks have been working hard to replace him.
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Quote:The cheese-eating French surrender monkeys may be tapped out, but not the U.S.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Aside from long distance missiles, possibly nuclear tipped, and/or officially sending NATO troops into Ukraine (there are thousands there unofficially in Kiev uniforms), "the west" has already done pretty much everything they can do. Europe is tapped out, militarily and economically.
The U.S. has provided only $32 billion in aid to Ukraine since Moscow’s full-scale invasion in February, including almost $20 billion in arms and other security assistance. That is insignificant compared to what the Pentagon squanders each year.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-and-allies-confront-cost-of-aid-assur
ing-ukraine-victory-over-russia-11670733607?mod=djemalertNEWS
How much money does the Pentagon have, per year? In FY 2022, the Department of Defense (DOD) had $1.64 Trillion distributed among its 6 sub-components. Compared to the DOD's spending ($1,640 billion) Ukraine's $32 billion is the epitome of efficiency.
https://www.usaspending.gov/agency/department-of-defense?fy=2022
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So, what is Kiev going to do? Throw dollar bills at Russians?
It doesn't matter how much the Pentagon squanders every year. Squandering money is the antithesis of creating an effective military. In reality we have run out of weapons and munitions that would be useful to Kiev, and bc we've de-industrialized we dont have the capacity to churn them out in volume.
We could give Kiev weapons out of our current stock, but we'd have to send operators along with them bc it would take too long for Kiev to train up its soldiers.
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Quote:Are you expecting Ukraine to surrender before New Year's Day? The War won't be ending soon, leaving plenty of time to train Ukrainian civilians into soldiers:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what is Kiev going to do? Throw dollar bills at Russians?
It doesn't matter how much the Pentagon squanders every year. Squandering money is the antithesis of creating an effective military. In reality we have run out of weapons and munitions that would be useful to Kiev, and bc we've de-industrialized we dont have the capacity to churn them out in volume.
We could give Kiev weapons out of our current stock, but we'd have to send operators along with them bc it would take too long for Kiev to train up its soldiers.
https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/job-training/advanced-individu
al-training.html
17 weeks. Ammunition Specialist requires 10 weeks of Basic Training and 7 weeks of Advanced Individual Training.
As an Ammunition Specialist, you’ll be responsible for the highly specialized care and management of ammunition, explosives, and their components. You’ll perform stock control and accounting duties, and you’ll be in charge of receiving, storing, issuing, and inspecting weapon systems to determine if they need repair or need to be destroyed. This means you’ll be in charge of blowing up expired or partially used explosives and other ordnance in controlled settings, a crucial part of keeping our troops safe.
https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/career-match/support-logistics
/transportation-inventory/89b-ammunition-specialist.html
32 weeks. Land Combat Electronic Missile System Repairer requires 10 weeks of Basic Training and 22 weeks of Advanced Individual Training
https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/career-match/mechanics-enginee
ring/test-repair/94a-land-missile-system-repairer.html
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KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy pressed Western leaders again on Monday to provide more advanced weapons to help his country in its war with Russia, and he repeated his calls for Russian forces to withdraw from occupied areas of Ukraine, suggesting Christmas as a date to retreat.
During a video conference, Zelenskky told host Germany and other leaders of the Group of Seven industrial powers: “It would be right to begin the withdrawal of Russian troops from the internationally recognized territory of Ukraine this Christmas. If Russia withdraws its troops from Ukraine, then a reliable cessation of hostilities will be ensured.”
He added: “The answer from Moscow will show what they really want there: either a further confrontation with the world or finally an end to aggression.”
The G-7 leaders supported Zelenskyy’s appeal, saying in a statement after their meeting that “Russia can end this war immediately by ceasing its attacks against Ukraine and completely and unconditionally withdrawing its forces from the territory of Ukraine.”
The Kremlin has rejected all previous appeals to reverse its land grabs in Ukraine. It didn’t immediately respond to this latest one.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-government-90e64b55be2411219
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Quote:Did I post that???
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what is Kiev going to do? Throw dollar bills at Russians?
It doesn't matter how much the Pentagon squanders every year. Squandering money is the antithesis of creating an effective military. In reality we have run out of weapons and munitions that would be useful to Kiev, and bc we've de-industrialized we dont have the capacity to churn them out in volume.
We could give Kiev weapons out of our current stock, but we'd have to send operators along with them bc it would take too long for Kiev to train up its soldiers.
SECOND: Are you expecting Ukraine to surrender before New Year's Day?
NO, I DIDN'T.
That's called a stawman argument, and it's a transparent rhetorical ploy to derail the discussion from (your) losing point.
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Quote:Signym, this next story will drive you to wild denials of the truth:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NO, I DIDN'T.
That's called a stawman argument, and it's a transparent rhetorical ploy to derail the discussion from (your) losing point.
The Invisible Victims
UKRAINE/ RUSSIA
Earlier this year, doctors in Kherson, Ukraine immediately took action when they heard that Russians were invading their city. They quickly began making fake documents for orphans that claimed the children were too sick to move.
“We deliberately wrote false information that the children were sick and could not be transported,” said Dr. Olga Pilyarska in an interview with the Associated Press. “We were scared that (the Russians) would find out … (but) we decided that we would save the children at any cost.”
Pilyarska’s quick thinking prevented Russian troops from seizing Ukrainian children and sending them to live with Russian families – one of the worst atrocities to come to light since Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of the former Soviet republic earlier this year. More than 1,000 children in Kherson were taken away while Russia occupied the city for eight months until its liberation in mid-November. More than 13,000 in total have been kidnapped, according to the Ukrainian government.
Sometimes Russian troops convinced parents to relinquish their children with the enticement of free summer camps in Russia where children would be safe from the fighting, wrote New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof. But the children never return, and the Russian government has not been receptive to parents who have been trying to bring them back home.
Some of the kids were remanded to a “military-patriotic” training camp in Chechnya, a country led by Putin ally Ramzan Kadyrov. As Radio Free Europe wrote, Russian officials designated these Ukrainian children as “socially troubled” and in need of “re-education.”
Meanwhile, the United Nations recently accused Russia of committing numerous war crimes in Ukraine, including, stunningly, the summary execution of children, reported El Pais. Human rights advocates explained to ABC News that removing children from an enemy’s territory in this manner is a clear indication of Russia’s “genocidal intent” in Ukraine. Like rape, taking kids is a classic ethnic cleansing maneuver to destroy families and thus the basic building block of a nation’s sense of identity, added Forbes.
Bloomberg Opinion columnist Andreas Kluth called these abducted and missing Ukrainian children the war’s “invisible victims.” He wondered if they would ever be reunited with their families, even after the war ends. Investigators can find mass graves and see the damage that bombs and bullets have wrought. But parents won’t find closure until they have their children back.
Nobody should expect the Ukrainians to back down. That includes you, Signym.
https://www.dailychatter.com/stories/the-invisible-victims/
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Yep, more bullshit.
I thought we were done with the "babies ripped from incubators" story.
You'd be a lot more believable if you kept at least one foot in reality.
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Quote:Signym, Russophiles deny it, but the sad truth is that Russia has murdered approximately 62 million of its citizens.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yep, more bullshit.
I thought we were done with the "babies ripped from incubators" story.
You'd be a lot more believable if you kept at least one foot in reality.
Once the Russian state settled on murder as a final solution to political conflicts, Russians were never the same.
R.J. Rummel, Lethal Politics - Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 (Published 1990)
Chapters
1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987 1
2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922 33
3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928 61
4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935 81
5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938 109
6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941 127
7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945 151
8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953 191
9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987 217
While there are estimates of the number of people killed by Soviet authorities during particular episodes or campaigns, until now, no one has tried to calculate the complete human toll of Soviet genocides and mass murders since the revolution of 1917. Here, R. J. Rummel lists and analyzes hundreds of published estimates, presenting them in the historical context in which they occurred. His shocking conclusion is that, conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/
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And the collective west nearly exterminated all indigenous people in the Americas that it ever contacted.
Your point?
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Quote:This is a classic Russian propaganda move, known as whataboutism, to mention "indigenous people", but the big difference was that Russians were exterminating Russians. Russians kill Russians (not "Indians") by the millions. See the difference, Signym? That pretty much explains why Russia has not prospered like nearly every other country in Eurasia. The big exception? North Korea went on a similar rampage to kill North Koreans and the result was that North Korea did not prosper while South Korea did. Funny thing about North Korea: it wouldn't have existed except for Russians setting North Korea on its path, the same one Russia has taken.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And the collective west nearly exterminated all indigenous people in the Americas that it ever contacted.
Your point?
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No, it's a demonstration that you have no point
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Putin’s war on Ukrainian power grid reveals more than he’d like.
Why not target something military? The Russian army isn’t good at finding military targets, which move around and are camouflaged. The whereabouts of a power grid can be Google-mapped.
Here’s the thing: The Ukrainian power grid was built back in Soviet times to survive a thermonuclear war; it’s incredibly redundant and well-protected. There’s no way a non-nuclear warhead will blow the concrete casing that shields the generating facilities. Transformers are much softer targets, and Soviet engineers knew that as well. They couldn’t shield the transformers, so they put them as far apart as possible. A Soviet substation invariably occupies a much bigger space than its U.S. counterpart; every piece stands apart from the other, with incredible redundancy built into the system and capacities for rerouting.
A cheap Iranian Shaheed-136 drone will hardly kill a transformer. More likely, it will damage the coolant system, which will be fixed in a day or two. A missile, which costs anywhere from $3 million to $8 million apiece can do the job, but it’s unlikely it will severely damage more than two transformers. An X-101 missile costs $13 million, an X-555 $7.5 million, a Kalibr $6.5 million. But the biggest problem for Russia isn’t the price of the missiles: It’s their replacement — it takes up to nine months to deliver one.
Before the war, Russia had stockpiled about 1,900 long-range high precision missiles (900 Iskanders, 500 Kalibres, 144 X-101 and 300 X-555), of which it has used about two-thirds. Before the sanctions kicked in, it was manufacturing high-precision missiles (X-101, Kalibres and 9M729**) at a rate of around 100 per year, though that estimate perhaps should be revised upward.
It’s possible — theoretically — for Russia to destroy the Ukrainian power grid, were the air defense non-existent or the missile swarms big enough to saturate it. But neither is going to happen if the West continues to supply Ukraine. And because of several bottlenecks that speak volumes about the Russian army.
The first major bottleneck is the number of missile carriers: It seems Russia simply doesn’t have enough of them. It’s apparently incapable of launching more than 30-40 sea-born Kalibres in a swarm; some Kalibr carriers were damaged by Ukrainian sea drone attack, and it looks like Russia is afraid to launch from submarines.
Russian air-launched missiles are an even sorrier sight. These are mostly X-55, X-555 and X-101 missiles launched from strategic bombers in a standoff mode; a bomber “takes off from its air base in Engels, flies to the Caspian and launches missiles from over the water,” explains Roman Switan, 58, a military expert and former fighter pilot. The X-55 is an old missile, originally fitted with a nuclear warhead, built back in 1970s. The warhead is stripped and a blank is fitted, and a hellishly expensive missile with no precision guidance system to speak of is used only to saturate the air defense. X-555 is a non-nuclear variety of X-55, built later. X-101 is the most modern, high-precision.
There’s usually around 60 or 70 X-55, X-555, and X-101 in one swarm, and, incredibly, all bombers take off from a single base: Engels. A recent Ukrainian drone attack on the base damaged one strategic TU-95 bomber and likely reduced the number of missiles launched in a single salvo several hours later by at least 16 pieces.
Russia launches the missiles over the Caspian apparently because some of them are so old, the ignition doesn’t catch on. “Instead of flying off, the missile simply drops down,” said Switan. It is especially dangerous for such antique items as X-55. Recently ecologists found over 2,500 seals dead on Caspian beaches. While the precise cause of the seal deaths has not yet been determined, X-55 fuel is highly toxic.
Were Putin fighting against Caspian seals he might have succeeded. Against Ukrainians and their power grid? Not so much.
Before the war, Russia was flaunting its new missiles: a hype
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In a move that sparked outrage across the world, Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the unit an honorary military title and praised it for its “heroism” and “bold actions.”
Chibrin said he didn’t see any of the supposed heroism, but many of the crimes.
Chibrin also described widespread looting, with Russian soldiers taking computers, jewelry and anything they liked.
“They didn’t hide this at all. A lot from my unit, when we left Lipovka and Andreevka in the end of March, they took cars, vehicles, they took civilian cars and sold them in Belarus,” he said. “The mentality is, if you steal something, you are good. If nobody catches you, good! If you see something that is expensive and you steal it and don’t get caught, you are good.”
As for the unit’s commanders, he said they were well aware of the alleged rapes and murders and of the looting, but took little interest in seeking justice.
“They reacted like: ‘Whatever. It happened. So what?’ Actually, there was no reaction,” he said. “Discipline goes [down the drain], there’s no discipline.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/13/europe/russian-defector-war-crimes-intl
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Zelensky tells David Letterman a Jewish joke about Russian military’s performance
“Two Jewish guys from Odesa meet up,” Zelensky says. “One asks the other: ‘So what’s the situation? What are people saying?'”
“And he goes, ‘What are people saying? They are saying it’s a war.'”
“What kind of war?”
“Russia is fighting NATO.”
“Are you serious?”
“Yes, yes! Russia is fighting NATO.”
“So how’s it going?”
“Well, 70,000 Russian soldiers are dead. The missile stockpile has almost been depleted. A lot of equipment is damaged, blown up.”
“And what about NATO?”
“What about NATO? NATO hasn’t even arrived yet.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/zelensky-tells-letterman-
jewish-joke-about-russian-militarys-performance/
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The Biden administration is planning to send Ukraine advanced electronic equipment that converts unguided aerial munitions into “smart bombs” that can target Russian military positions with a high degree of accuracy, according to senior U.S. officials familiar with the matter.
The kits incorporate global positioning devices for precision and can be bolted onto a variety of weapons, creating what the Pentagon calls a Joint Direct Attack Munition, or JDAM. The U.S. military has used the technology on bombs weighing up to 2,000 pounds, usually incorporating it with bomber aircraft and fighter jets.
On Tuesday, senior U.S. officials told The Washington Post that the Pentagon also was preparing to provide Ukraine with a Patriot missile system, the U.S. military’s most sophisticated air defense weapon. Biden has yet to approve that move either but could do so imminently, officials said.
The Kremlin has reacted angrily to the outpouring of Western military aid, making thinly veiled threats to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine and warning of the potential for a broader spillover war with NATO. For that reason, the Biden administration has sought to move cautiously in approving new capabilities that could be viewed by Russia as escalatory.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-planning-to-give-ukraine-smar
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The Biden administration is planning to send Ukraine advanced electronic equipment that converts unguided aerial munitions into “smart bombs” that can target Russian military positions with a high degree of accuracy, according to senior U.S. officials familiar with the matter.
How long do you suppose it will be before we find those in Africa and the Middle East?
One week? Two tops?
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Russia warned the U.S. that if it sends Patriot missile systems to Ukraine it will consider the move a provocation that could lead to “unpredictable consequences.”
The Biden administration is finalizing plans to send a Patriot missile system to Ukraine, three defense officials told NBC News earlier this week. The surface-to-air defense system would help Ukraine repel Russian aerial attacks.
The Russian embassy in Washington said in a statement on Telegram Wednesday that sending the Patriot missile system would be considered “provocative.”
In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.
“There is no calm on the front line. There is nothing easy and simple. Every day and every meter is fought for extremely hard,” Zelenskyy said in a nightly address on his Telegram channel.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/15/ukraine-war-live-updates-latest-news-o
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Russia warned the U.S. that if it sends Patriot missile systems to Ukraine it will consider the move a provocation that could lead to “unpredictable consequences.”
Putin isn't worried about that. He knows that those missile systems are going to turn up in Ali Khamenei's hands by the new year.
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In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.
Hmmmmmmmm....
Well that seems to go against everything that Ted's videos are claiming.
So... Who is lying then?
Will Ted even remember the videos he posted now that we're being presented with a new narrative?
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Quote:I get the feeling that you misunderstand how Armies operate. Since Armies move around, Russians have difficulty targeting them. Since towns don't move, Russians see towns as easy targets, firing at those, which doesn't do much more than destroy real estate and kill civilians. Most of the time, the Ukrainian Army stays out of towns to avoid being hit. I suspect you will never understand how differently winners operate than do losers of wars. When this war is all over, Russians will be bragging about how much damage they did to Ukrainian buildings while Ukraine did almost nothing to Russian buildings, but the Ukrainian Army will still have won the war by beating the Russian Army.
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In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.
Hmmmmmmmm....
Well that seems to go against everything that Ted's videos are claiming.
So... Who is lying then?
Will Ted even remember the videos he posted now that we're being presented with a new narrative?
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In his nightly address Wednesday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces were destroying “everything in front of them.” He added that “city after city” in Donbas in eastern Ukraine was being destroyed.
Hmmmmmmmm....
Well that seems to go against everything that Ted's videos are claiming.
So... Who is lying then?
Will Ted even remember the videos he posted now that we're being presented with a new narrative?
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Oh, yeah- now SECOND is an expert in warfare too??
SECOND, Russia isn't targeting "cities" ... that's what Kiev does.
Russia is targeting the electric infrastructure. Even then, they aren't targeting the power plants, they're targeting the distribution grid.
why are they doing this? It's a vulnerability in Kiev's military, bc the trains are electric, and bc they're a different gage than the EU, it's not like the EU can supply them with diesel locomotives.
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Oh, yeah- now SECOND is an expert in warfare too??
Second is an expert at everything Second has ever Seconded.
Really. Second should be President of the World. We'd be so lucky to have somebody as perfect as Second making all of our decisions for us. There would be no need for any other politicians worldwide. Just Second telling us all what is good for us. Second has never made a single mistake in his life or has ever been wrong about anything. Second has never had even a sip of coffee and will live forever because Second has never ingested anything that wasn't pure as sunlight.
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I thought this was a very interesting and far-ranging discussion between
An ex-Marine with weapons systems experience, writing from Bangkok. He tends to focus on weapons systems and logistics.
A British- educated Greek with connections to businessmen all over Europe, posting from London
An American-educated Argentinian posting from Karkhiv.
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Quote:In the Vietnam War, the US killed millions of Vietnamese, destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars of real estate, and the US lost. It was impossible to believe back in Texas, where the people who are now Trumptards or fathers of today's Trumptards could not understand why the US lost. Didn't killing millions of Vietnamese guarantee a win? Maybe atom bombs should have been used on Vietnam, the Texas Trumptards argued. Didn't thousands of US deaths guarantee a win? The future Texas Trumptards were convinced that hippies and peaceniks and Democrats were the cause of the US loss in Vietnam, not the competence of the US military, which destroyed more property and killed more Vietnamese every day.
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Oh, yeah- now SECOND is an expert in warfare too??
Second is an expert at everything Second has ever Seconded.
Really. Second should be President of the World. We'd be so lucky to have somebody as perfect as Second making all of our decisions for us. There would be no need for any other politicians worldwide. Just Second telling us all what is good for us. Second has never made a single mistake in his life or has ever been wrong about anything. Second has never had even a sip of coffee and will live forever because Second has never ingested anything that wasn't pure as sunlight.
Russians are just as confused about why Russia is losing in Ukraine as the future Trumptards were confused about why the US lost in Vietnam. Russia has killed vast numbers of Ukrainians. Russia has destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars in real estate. Russia has only lost a few thousand soldiers. How is it possible that Russia has not already won in Ukraine? It must be somebody's fault, but not the Russian military's fault, that Russia has not already won! This is probably why Russians talk about nuking Ukraine the same way future Trumptards talked about nuking Vietnam because the minds of a certain kind of Trumptard or Russian will believe that the more people you kill and the more property you destroy the closer you get to winning a war.
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Your stupidity is disturbing.
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Quote:Your reaction to news out of Ukraine is very telling about who you are. I saw the same about news out of Vietnam in 1969. In my little corner of East Texas, the Trumptards still remember the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, but they remember it for the rank injustice when Lieutenant William Calley Jr., a platoon leader in C Company, was convicted for murder.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:His disturbance is stupid.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your stupidity is disturbing.
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The Trumptards I'm familiar with, at least the ones who remember, were pleased that President Nixon freed Lt. Calley. Putin would probably do the same for Russia's version of Lt. Calley if a Russian military court should convict somebody for massacring Ukrainians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Lai_massacre
Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Russia won't leave in defeat until at least 2023, so there is a similarity to the long time lag between the US invading Vietnam and leaving.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your stupidity is disturbing.
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It's not news.
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SECOND: Your reaction to news
SIX: It's not news.
Indeed. SECOND posts lies, propaganda, and disinfo.
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SECOND, why was it that you volunteered for Vietnam? You never did explain that ginormously stupid mistake. A war, BTW, that was prosecuted and expanded BY DEMOCRATS AND ENDED BY A REPUBLICAN.
As far as I can tell, all you've ever done in your life was replace one belief system (Jehova's Witless) with another ("I hate everybody that I project my original mistake onto").
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Ukraine’s chiefs warn of a looming Russian offensive and the critical months that lie ahead
Russia is massing men and arms for a new offensive. As soon as January, but more likely in the spring, it could launch a big attack from Donbas in the east, from the south or even from Belarus, a puppet state in the north. Russian troops will aim to drive back Ukrainian forces and could even stage a second attempt to take Kyiv, the capital.
Those are not our words, but the assessment of the head of Ukraine’s armed forces, General Valery Zaluzhny. In an unprecedented series of briefings within the past fortnight the general, along with Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president, and General Oleksandr Syrsky, the head of its ground forces, warned us of the critical few months ahead. "The Russians are preparing some 200,000 fresh troops," General Zaluzhny told us. "I have no doubt they will have another go at Kyiv." Western sources say that Russia’s commander, General Sergey Surovikin, has always seen this as a multi-year conflict.
This is not the view outside Ukraine. In the freezing mud, the conflict is thought to be deadlocked. There has been almost no movement for a month along the 1,000km or so of battlefront. Admiral Sir Tony Radakin, Britain’s most senior officer, this week said that, right now, a shortage of artillery shells means Russia’s scope for ground operations is "rapidly diminishing".
The appearance of stalemate is feeding new interest in peace talks. France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, America’s Joe Biden and (for very different reasons) the Russian aggressor, Vladimir Putin, have all in recent days talked about a diplomatic solution. Many in the West, appalled at the suffering, and, more selfishly, wearying of high energy prices, would welcome this. But Ukraine’s commanders argue that it should not happen too soon, and they are right.
If Ukraine sought to stop the war today, freezing the battle lines where they are, the Russians could prepare better for the next attack. Mr Putin’s generals have been pushing on with their programme of training and deploying newly mobilised troops and retooling industry to help the war effort—including, say Ukrainian commanders, by producing artillery shells. A freeze would repeat the mistake of the three years leading up to the invasion on February 24th 2022. In that time Mr Putin talked endlessly to the West’s leaders, who indulged him, while all the while readying his armies for invasion.
The West’s highest responsibility is to ensure that any Russian counter-offensive fails. For that, the supply of weapons must increase, and fast. Ukraine has used HIMARS, a rocket system the Americans have been supplying since June, to devastating effect against Russian ammunition dumps and command-and-control centres, allowing the rapid advance first in the north-east and then in the south. But Russia has moved many such targets back out of range of Ukraine’s HIMARS batteries. So Ukraine needs more powerful ordnance, like the ATACMS missiles that could hit targets at least twice as far away. And it needs lots of them, as well as regular ammunition and artillery of all kinds; plus tanks and helicopters and much else, too.
Ukraine also needs help repelling Russian attacks on civilian electrical, water and heating systems. These are aimed at wrecking Ukraine’s economy as well as battering the morale of Ukrainian troops on the front line, who are worried about their families back home.
As General Zaluzhny explains, Ukraine is running low on stocks of ammunition for its existing defence systems (mostly Soviet-era anti-aircraft kit being repurposed for use against missiles). It also needs many more, and better, anti-missile defences; the American Patriots that now seem to be forthcoming will be a huge boost, but training soldiers to use them takes time and they should have been supplied months ago.
If Ukraine is to emerge from this conflict as a thriving democracy, even air defence will not be enough: it also needs to recapture more territory. Alth
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Quote:President Kennedy gave permission to overthrow Ngo Dinh Diem, the President of South Vietnam. That overthrow became an assassination, showing Kennedy to be just as bad as the President with the worst judgment, Andrew Johnson, April 15, 1865 – March 4, 1869.
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SECOND: Your reaction to news
SIX: It's not news.
Indeed. SECOND posts lies, propaganda, and disinfo.
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SECOND, why was it that you volunteered for Vietnam? You never did explain that ginormously stupid mistake. A war, BTW, that was prosecuted and expanded BY DEMOCRATS AND ENDED BY A REPUBLICAN.
As far as I can tell, all you've ever done in your life was replace one belief system (Jehova's Witless) with another ("I hate everybody that I project my original mistake onto").
Signym, did you not understand that thanks to Kennedy's (and LBJ's and Nixon's) bad judgment and over-weaned pride, the US destroyed hundreds of billions of dollars in Vietnamese real estate and yet still lost? In contrast, Vietnam destroyed no US real estate and yet won. Putin, with judgment just as bad as Kennedy's, has put Russia on the same path to a loss after destroying hundreds of billions in Ukrainian real estate. It is possible Russia will continue fighting Ukraine after Putin is as dead as Kennedy, but this war will end with Russia losing to a smaller, weaker country because losing is NOT an existential threat to Russia. Eventually, some replacement for Putin will use good judgment and withdraw from Ukraine. It is too bad that Putin is too proud to admit his mistake and then rectify it.
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Define "winning".
Define "losing".
BTW, why DID you volunteer for Vietnam? Can you explain your rationale, what was the winning argument that convinced you that it was necessary, or at least a good thing to do?
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Second was born no earlier than 2 decades after Vietnam ended.
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Well, SECOND?
You seem to have plenty of time to post bullshit, but no time to answer three simple questions?
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Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Zelensky.
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Quote:Signym -- Why did I volunteer? I didn't want to go to college like my sisters. I didn't want to work at Burger King like my father and mother. The most meaningful life I could think of was in the military. Second in life for most meaningful was petrochemical plant construction, which is where I worked for two decades. That's all!
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SECOND:
Define "winning".
Define "losing".
BTW, why DID you volunteer for Vietnam? Can you explain your rationale, what was the winning argument that convinced you that it was necessary, or at least a good thing to do?
Russians have not defined what "winning" in Ukraine means. "Losing" is described as “Humans will turn into non-humans... humanity as a whole will be eradicated... What is ahead of us is the forced replacement of people with robots and robotization of the people… If we don’t confront the West, utter horror will follow, it will be a catastrophe.”
Here is the whole article:
Kremlin TV Stars Combust as Russians Admit War Is Aimless
Putin’s media darlings are promptly melting down as more Russians realize they “don’t understand what they’re doing” in Ukraine.
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine continues to stall—along with the Kremlin propaganda blitz meant to convince the Russians that supporting the war is their sacred duty. Pro-Kremlin propagandists unanimously agree that Vladimir Putin’s war is here for the long haul, but bristle at the fact that no one seems to know the end goal of the so-called “special operation.”
During Wednesday’s broadcast of NTV’s show Meeting Place, hosts Andrey Norkin and Ivan Trushkin spearheaded a discussion about the effectiveness of homegrown propaganda, complaining about the lack of views and comments on “patriotic” promo reels urging the youth to rush for the front lines.
One guest, Russian rapper Ptakha, whose real name is David Nuriev, didn’t beat around the bush. “As far as the youth is concerned, honestly speaking, I communicate with a lot of them and very few understand what we’re doing there, because they [Ukrainians] didn’t cross our borders. Very few understand,” he said. “Trying to ride the wave of the Soviet ideology, claiming that we’re fighting Germans, is also very questionable.”
Trushkin asked: “Can you produce a clip explaining what we’re doing there, in a language that’s easy to understand?” Ptakha replied: “I don’t quite understand it myself.” Norkin angrily retorted: “I categorically reject what you’re saying right now, young man. Let’s stop butting heads over here.”
Undeterred, Ptakha continued to speak and said the Wagner Group of mercenaries are at war solely “to make money,” and that the rest of Russian troops don’t understand Moscow’s aims. As the guests piled on, loudly arguing with the inconvenient assessment, Norkin shut Ptakha down: “I don’t want to offend you or insult you, but you are very certain that you’re right, despite your lack of basis. You want us to explain all of this to you, but we aren’t going to do that. This is not the point of today’s program.”
During Monday’s airing of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, the eponymous propagandist complained about the “generation gap,” stating that mainly men of his own age are fighting in Ukraine, while younger Russians aren’t eager to march into battle.
In Solovyov’s Wednesday broadcast, the topics of propaganda and the widespread lack of understanding as to Russia’s long-ranging goals was likewise front and center. Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at the Moscow State University, predicted that the West will intensify its information offensive against Russia during the spring of 2024—targeting the presidential election. “Russia’s destruction is the main goal of the West, they openly admit that,” he said.
With notable irritation, Sidorov pointed out: “When the government does not identify clear goals, it’s very difficult to fulfill your oath... so what is our goal?” He complained about the lack of clarity on
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Well, SECOND?
You seem to have plenty of time to post bullshit, but no time to answer three simple questions?
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Story by Mia Willaims • Yesterday 3:29 PM
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“The infamous Viet Cong photo,” taken by Eddie Adams in 1968, shocked the world when published by a joint US-Vietnam task-force. His stunning black-and-white photo depicts Lt. General Nguyen Loan executing a Vietcong prisoner in the city of Saigon . . .
This is a twisty-turny story from Vietnam that shines light on the Ukraine War, but you have to assembly the pictures in your head before you can see the pattern and what it all means. If you can't assembly it, and hold it in your mind for several minutes without dropping the pieces of the story, then it is just one damn picture after another, signifying almost nothing, unconnected to any theme larger than one person executing another. It would help to look in the wiki for the relationship between the photographer and the man with a gun:
Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Adams_(photographer)#Pulitzer_Priz
Adams would later lament the impact of the photo. On his photograph, Adams wrote in Time in 1998:
Two people died in that photograph: the recipient of the bullet and General Nguyen Ngoc Loan. The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapons in the world. People believe them; but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. ... What the photograph didn't say was, "What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American people?". ... This picture really messed up his life. He never blamed me. He told me if I hadn't taken the picture, someone else would have, but I've felt bad for him and his family for a long time. ... I sent flowers when I heard that he had died and wrote, "I'm sorry. There are tears in my eyes."
Loan moved to the United States, and in 1978, there was an unsuccessful attempt to rescind his permanent residence status (green card). Adams advocated for Loan when the U.S. government sought to deport him based on the photograph, and apologized in person to Loan and his family for the irreparable damage it did to his honor while he was alive. When Loan died, Adams praised him as a "hero" of a "just cause". On the television show War Stories with Oliver North Adams referred to Loan as "a goddamned hero!"
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Russia fired more than 70 missiles at Ukraine on Friday in one of its biggest attacks since the start of the war, knocking out power in the second-biggest city.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Russia still had enough missiles for several more massive strikes. “Whatever the rocket worshippers from Moscow are counting on, it still won’t change the balance of power in this war,” he said in an evening address.
The mass strikes appeared to be a continuation of the Kremlin’s attempt to destroy Ukraine’s energy infrastructure. Ukraine’s state energy company Ukrenergo said energy consumption had fallen by 50% as a result of the attacks.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/17/russia-ukraine-war-at-a-
glance-what-we-know-on-day-297-of-the-invasion
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Fuck Zelensky.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Quote:You and Volodymyr Zelenskyy are about the same age. He was Born 25 January 1978 (age 44).
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Zelensky.
Children 2
Spouse Olena Kiyashko (m. 2003)
Occupation Politician • actor • comedian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
6ix, if you could tell jokes like Zelenskyy, you could have an expansive life rather than your present-day minimalist one.
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I prefer my minimalist lifestyle.
Besides... Kid fucking and crossdressing for laughs like Zelensky is nothing that I would ever aspire to.
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You and Volodymyr Zelenskyy are about the same age. He was Born 25 January 1978 (age 44).
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Zelensky.
Children 2
Spouse Olena Kiyashko (m. 2003)
Occupation Politician • actor • comedian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
6ix, if you could tell jokes like Zelenskyy, you could have an expansive life rather than your present-day minimalist one.
Russia invades Ukraine. Many countries offered Zelenskyy a ride out. He said I don't need a ride I need amunation.
Jack says fuck Zelensky. That says it all. Jack=ass=loser.
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Quote:Supposedly Zelenskiy has a number of mansions already, one in Florida and one in Italy, thanks to his CIA-StateDepartment-WH patrons.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Zelensky.
SECOND: You and Volodymyr Zelenskyy are about the same age. He was Born 25 January 1978 (age 44).
Children 2
Spouse Olena Kiyashko (m. 2003)
Occupation Politician • actor • comedian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
6ix, if you could tell jokes like Zelenskyy, you could have an expansive life rather than your present-day minimalist one.
THUGR: Russia invades Ukraine. Many countries offered Zelenskyy a ride out. He said I don't need a ride I need amunation.
Jack says fuck Zelensky. That says it all. Jack=ass=loser.
The thing that's keeping him glued to Ukraine is his Nazi praetorian guard, who will shoot him in the head if he bolts from office.
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Quote:Signym, your story is fake. The following is real, but whether it will work is still unknown:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Supposedly Zelenskiy has a number of mansions already, one in Florida and one in Italy, thanks to his CIA-StateDepartment-WH patrons.
The thing that's keeping him glued to Ukraine is his Nazi praetorian guard, who will shoot him in the head if he bolts from office.
Moscow has begun a new campaign to encourage Russians to enlist in the armed forces and fight in Ukraine, despite the Kremlin having denied needing more recruits.
In an attempt to attract more volunteers to the front, Russian propaganda videos posted on social networks in the past few days are trying to appeal to Russian men through the narratives of patriotism, morality and upward social mobility.
One of the videos, posted on December 14, features a young man who is choosing to fight instead of partying with his male friends and then surprises everyone by buying himself a car with the money he made from fighting on a military contract.
In another video, posted on December 15, the former girlfriend of a soldier is newly impressed with his courage and begs him to get back together with her. A further example shows a middle-aged man leaving the factory job that doesn’t pay him enough to sign a military contract and go to the front.
Another of the videos shows a group of 30-something, well-off Russian men loading a car as they are asked by elderly women where are they going. One of the men replies: “To Georgia. Forever.” When one woman spills a bag of groceries, the men just get into the car and leave, instead of helping, while younger Russian men rush to pick up the groceries. “The boys have left, the men stayed,” one of the elderly women concludes.
Many of the videos portray the war as an escape for men from a bleak daily reality of drinking vodka, poverty and helplessness. In November, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that it was better to be fighting for the motherland than to drink oneself to death on vodka.
More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/europe/moscow-army-recruits-intl/index.
html
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