Tv is dying, Western comicbooks die, Gaming dies, Cinema is dying...what will be the next flop?
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Perhaps a box office turkey could fit in one of those Woke Go Broke threads
The Flop of 'SpaceJam 2' the turkeys and box office bomb numbers, Hollyweirds continued decline
Warner Bros used to own the box office, now its Flop after Flop
..and Basketball?
Team USA opened Olympic play vs. France ...expecting to win... most people can not name a single player from French Basketball, the USA had the superstar players currently in the NBA
yet France BEATS USA?
This superstar celebrity USA team will struggle, can you put these idiots into superstar Films? Maybe not, it seems movies with these types of LeBron stars will flop, France style of play just a match-up nightmare for the USA celeb NBA team, its was almost forever, 18 years? near 20 yrs? since America lost a game of basketball internationally but this year they suck, the basketball landschape is changing and Team USA were losers to French.
Basketball is considered an American dominated sport but they Lost.
if you were a sports gambling person what were the France v USA Betting Odds
...what were the odds a big studio like WB would collapse?
On social media I see many different Americans, normally centrist, patriots, sports fans but cheer their own defeat at the Olympics.
SpaceJam-II is not the first big flop, Tenent and the Wonder Woman remake from Last year flopped bad.
Some Xmen movies flopped, Green Lantern and SpeedRacer flopped, the animation Titan A.E flopped and Ghost Busters remake flopped, before this some big expensive peroid Roman Egyptian peroid style epics would flop.
Economics might have moved into a more global position
American's do not have the same buying power, wealth is shifting East, California doesnt try new ideas instead its becoming boring doing remake after remake of old remakes.
Hollywood was probably going to collapse with or without Corona, the Coivd thing might have been the Nail-in-the-Coffin. Hollyweird hitting a peak with all its fantasy comicbook and franchise remakes. The Batmans, Jurassic Parks, the Bond films, Harry Potters, Spider-Mans, the Marvels, the Xmen ...its all been done. The pushing of Ghetto Rioter culture everywhere, the silly Kangz Wakanda Basketball Black-culture isn't helping when it already peaked when... the 1970s, maybe 90s or maybe 1930s ... Black cultured had guitar songs, it had political poetry, it was about human rights and now its past its prime subverted by Globalists or Marxism, Greed, Commie Style Socialism and Rioter Trash?...
...but the movie ...did it Flop??
Seems like a Flop
but the media wont say
https://www.havredailynews.com/story/2021/07/20/opinion/mac-on-movies-
space-jam-2-flop-is-a-matter-of-perspective/534643.html
https://www.rt.com/sport/529546-space-jam-film-reviews-lebron-james/
Another issue now is the West has a lot of choise with entertainment you can download or rent a film from Canada, Aus, you can watch British or French toons and film Japanese and South Koreans, NZ has cool indie films and nice Indie American movies are made outside California, many studios don't bash you with politics, their comics, movies and cartoons aren't all interested in Left vs Right or Woke Cultural Marxism. I guess in a way maybe South Koreans are Nationalists, they don't say sorry for existing while The West is literally destroying itself with sick identity politics.
Some American people were happy to see their own Women's Soccer Team get a tough Lesson and get a Beating by Sweden. Some say culturally the Black American culture Afro-Ethnic African-American culture has been in decline. the Whites themselves riot and steal in the culture 'wiggers', a homosexual Tranny LGBT agenda is pushed, a diversity quota of islamics in a movie or tv show, black, white, yellow, brown and a story sacrificed. You have mediocre athletes turning their back on a US Flag and nation that raised and supported their careers, they are hating America or taking a knee, girls not being feminine and trashy and talking and acting like hoodrats, I guess American Bla
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People were making fun of "black culture" way back in 1980, in the oh-so politically-incorrect movie "Airplane"
"I SPEAK JIVE"
I suppose the reason why this movie hasn't been cancelled yet is because it's offensive to everyone.
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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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Is the Hollywood machine now dead?
its like they started to believ their own hype, the movie studios, Turn Sports, EPSN, the adverts and toons, ESPN, WarnerMedia News & Sports, their weird perverted view they thought was a real thing in reality?
What happened to the adverts getting more ticket, the global Warner Bros marketing machine
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I suppose the reason why this movie hasn't been cancelled yet is because it's offensive to everyone.
Do you ever watch Sportballs stuff?
The USA is supposed to rank Number-1 on in the world, nowhere else on Earth when it comes to Basketball,
yet France a team of non-stars...I read one time they are like ranked 45th behind Serbia, Italy, Romania, Australia, Venezeual, Russia, Greece, Turkey, Peurto Rico, China, Argentina, an unknown lesser French team beat the crap out of Team USA?
Have the Celebrity teams from USA got so bad and poor skilled they can now get beaten by Unranked interntional Women's teams? Maybe Teens and Kids can beat these Overpaid Celebs??
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Don't watch sports except tennis, sometimes, as I used to play it.
Haven't watched most big Hollywood movies ever. I could only get thru abut 15 minutes of one of the endless Star Wars series on TV... I don't even remember which one it was.
One of the Thor movies was funny ... again, don't remember which one in the series it was.
Dislike most comic-book movies. Disney is literally the same plot over and over- willful motherless daughter of the king/leader gets into trouble but finds True Love along the way. I actively dislike zombie movies and anything to do with werewolves and vampires. I also dislike supernatural thrillers and nihilistic antihero/post-apocalyptic movies. (Too bad hubby and daughter love that stuff.)
Since Hollywood can't seem to find anything else to make movies about, we wind up watching TV series - The Expanse, Grimm ... finally got around to watching Buffy and Angel (meh. The most interesting character was Spike.) ... and currently going thru the British detective shows. (So far I liked New Tricks the best; it was funny.)
Yeah, anyway, very little that Hollyweird makes appeals to me.
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They can't lose money forever.
Eventually this little social experiment will come to an end.
Until then, just tune out.
Who knows? Maybe tuning out long enough will break us away from the entertainment chains and we won't even want to go back to it once they stop doing it.
I have no plans to. They've already lost me a long time ago.
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I think The Rock's new movie due in August with Emily Blunt is gonna be a big blockbuster. But if it also flops, then who knows. My wife and I haven't been to a movie theater in almost two years, and I doubt whether we'll ever go again.
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I'm going to go again, but only because down by my brother they have a cool little 2 screen theater that only charges $5 for new movies... $8 if you want a soda and popcorn with it.
It's never packed, and there have never been a bunch of idiots in there talking over the movie or letting their cell phone go off the whole time.
I'll support the small business. At only $5, I can afford to laugh at a terrible Hollowood flick once in a while.
Ain't watching no woke trash though.
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Trail by Sportsball?
‘Is This a Joke to You?’: Conservatives Pounce on Bakkaball LeBron James’ Tweet Mocking Kyle Rittenhouse’s Tears During Trial
https://nypost.com/2021/11/11/lebron-james-mocks-kyle-rittenhouses-bre
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What will be the next Box Office Flop?
‘Strange World’ is Disney’s Biggest Bomb in Years
https://bleedingfool.com/news/why-disneys-strange-world-is-their-bigge
st-bomb-in-years/
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What will be the next Box Office Flop?
‘Strange World’ is Disney’s Biggest Bomb in Years
https://bleedingfool.com/news/why-disneys-strange-world-is-their-bigge
st-bomb-in-years/
It's already in theaters. It's called Wakanda Forever.
Black Panther made $40 Million Domestic for its 4th weekend in 2018.
Wakanda Forever didn't crack $17 Million for its 4th weekend. It took Black Panther 6 weeks to see those numbers.
Sure. It made money, but even the Blackedy-Blackest Black movie ever made is going to be a huge disappointment for Disney. It won't even make $10 Million on weekend 5. I'm going to predict something in the realm of $6.5 to $8 Million.
Everybody knows that Marvel's Phase 4 sucked. The only good superhero anything that was in theaters or on streaming this year was Spiderman: No Way Home, and that came out last year and wasn't a Disney production.
The only reason Wakanda did this well is because the novelty of it all hasn't worn off yet. If Disney doesn't want to see the Comic Book Movie genre go the way of the Western in Phase 5, they better knock the woke shit off.
Now... if you want to talk a SERIOUS flop?
Avatar 2.
It's said that it will have to make $2 Billion Worldwide to BREAK EVEN.
There's not a chance in hell that's happening.
James Cameron's career is on the line with this one. He might be unemployable by 2023.
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What will be the next Box Office Flop?
‘Strange World’ is Disney’s Biggest Bomb in Years
https://bleedingfool.com/news/why-disneys-strange-world-is-their-bigge
st-bomb-in-years/
It's already in theaters. It's called Wakanda Forever.
Black Panther made $40 Million Domestic for its 4th weekend in 2018.
Wakanda Forever didn't crack $17 Million for its 4th weekend. It took Black Panther 6 weeks to see those numbers.
Sure. It made money, but even the Blackedy-Blackest Black movie ever made is going to be a huge disappointment for Disney. It won't even make $10 Million on weekend 5. I'm going to predict something in the realm of $6.5 to $8 Million.
Everybody knows that Marvel's Phase 4 sucked. The only good superhero anything that was in theaters or on streaming this year was Spiderman: No Way Home, and that came out last year and wasn't a Disney production.
The only reason Wakanda did this well is because the novelty of it all hasn't worn off yet. If Disney doesn't want to see the Comic Book Movie genre go the way of the Western in Phase 5, they better knock the woke shit off.
Now... if you want to talk a SERIOUS flop?
Avatar 2.
It's said that it will have to make $2 Billion Worldwide to BREAK EVEN.
There's not a chance in hell that's happening.
James Cameron's career is on the line with this one. He might be unemployable by 2023.
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I think Avatar just may indeed bomb based on the previews I've seen. It looks like a really dumb movie, and after all these years, who really gives a crap about the blue monkeys.
And then there's the Jim Parsons homo movie, perfect for your Holiday fun!
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I never even saw the first one. All I hear about it now is that it was a sub-par movie as far as the story went, but at the time it came out the spectacle of it all with the 3D at an IMAX screen was revolutionary. Remember back then when they said that 3D was going to be the big thing in theaters? I don't really even hear about that anymore.
There's no way the sequel isn't going to be thinly veiled woke trash in 2022, and it's coming out about a decade too late.
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December 16th, 2022: Weekend predictions: Avatar eyeing $170-million opening
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/253230830-Weekend-predictions-Avatar-
eyeing-170-million-opening
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As usual, our final prediction is a weighted average of our predictions. In this case, I think it makes most sense to average the prediction based on the international numbers with the prediction based on the previews, which gives us a final number of $172 million.
Note the huge range of uncertainty though. I’d be surprised if the film ended with weekend with less than $130 million, and astonished if it did more than $200 million, but both figures are within the bounds of possibility. Even once we know where it has landed over the weekend, its ultimate financial fate will be determined by how it does next weekend and the weekend after (and the weekend after that, most likely), not just here in North America but around the world.
December 18th, 2022: Way of Water officially projected to earn $134 million this weekend
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/253250830-Weekend-projections-Way-of-
Water-officially-projected-to-earn-134-million-this-weekend
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Disney are projecting a $134-million opening weekend for Avatar: The Way of Water this morning, the best opening weekend for James Cameron in his career*, and the sixth-best debut of 2022. Final numbers could move it fractionally ahead of The Batman and into fifth for the year, but it’s a slightly disappointing result, given that most predictions had it earning around $150 million this weekend. On the bright side, international numbers are looking a bit better, with $301 million so far, and its legs are looking promising.
* No. This is not the best opening weekend for James Cameron in his career. Not when the flicks are adjusted for inflation, and certainly not when tickets to see this movie cost more than the other movies in the theater. Let's be real here.
OPPS!
And I hate to break it to you, Disney, but next weekend is going to be pretty damned icy and cold in half the country. Not to mention Saturday is Christmas Eve and Sunday is Christmas.
You're not going to make $2 Billion and break even on this until the 3rd time you re-release it in theaters 12 years from now.
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I was wrong... Or it was a tie. However you want to look at it since Avatar 2 and this woke trash movie starring AOC and 3 other privileged "BIPOC" women couldn't even get more than 1,500 people to go to the theater in the name of Climate Change were both released this weekend.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65439
There were almost more people on the movie poster than people who actually paid to sit through this thing.
It was a "selection" at both Sundance and Tribeca in 2022 though, just proving how out of touch the rich idiots are with the rest of the country. Roger Ebert enjoyed masturbating to it too.
I'd love to see a breakdown of who actually watched it. With only less than 1,500 people in attendance, it is possible that the only people who watched it were Leftoid media "journalists" and personalities, woke critics that give things like this a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and AOC's family.
Though I'd bet that sprinkled in the mix was a few pink pussy hat wearing thumbs and their soy-cucked sexless fem-boy frend-zoned sycophants hoping that tonight will be the night!
C'mon Thumb! Give him some play. He's such a "nice guy"!
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The access critics on Rotten Tomato's gave AOC's flick good reviews...funny
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I didn't even look, but I didn't have to. Of course they did!
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Avatar 2's first Monday already made over 17.5 Million less than Top Gun: Maverick's first Monday did domestically, and already drops to middling-to-low legs on it's first post-opening weekend day... a feat which Top Gun: Maverick never achieved in its entire box office run.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Avatar-The-Way-of-Water-(2022)#tab=b
ox-office
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2020)#tab=box-offi
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First week's results are in...
Avatar 2 makes $197,549,646 Domestically in its first week.
Top Gun: Maverick made $205,604,011 in the same time.
This isn't all there is to the story though...
While Disney/20th Century Fox are terrified of letting anybody know what the production and marketing budget of Avatar 2 was, Top Gun's Production budget was $170 Million (so double that number for the true cost of $340 Million with the marketing budget as the general rule of thumb). James Cameron has said that if the movie doesn't make 2 Billion than it will lose money.
If this is true, it cost Disney/Fox $1.66 Billion more to make and market Avatar 2 than it did Top Gun: Maverick.
Avatar 2's saving grace is that China decided to allow it in theaters and it's banked an additional $77 Million so far that Top Gun didn't have access to.
Avatar 2 is predicted now to make $61.5 Million Domestically this weekend, but with the caveat it might only make $55 Million due to the terrible weather still gripping a large portion of the US through the weekend.
Top Gun: Maverick made just over $90 Million Domestically during its second weekend.
Avatar 2 is predicted now to make around the area of $533 Million Domestically before it leaves the box office.
Top Gun: Maverick made over $718 Million before it left the box office.
We will probably end up seeing an Avatar 3 at some point because it just came to my attention that James Cameron has claimed that it's already been filmed. I don't know if that is actually true or not. And if it IS true, who knows if all of the seriously expensive CGI has even begun on part three 3? (After all... Edie Falco was just reported as saying that she filmed her scenes 4 years ago and thought the sequel had already come out and was a flop when one of her friends had told her that it was just released in the theaters.)
But if these predictions hold true and James isn't lying about needing 2 Billion to break even, we almost certainly won't see an Avatar 4 for quite a while, and might not ever see another James Cameron flick released in our lifetime.
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Are we rooting for failure? 2022 in review.
Yes. Yes we are.
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Ouch.... That's got to hurt.
Avatar only banks $1.5 Million on Christmas Eve. That's a 97% drop from last Saturday. That just may be a world record.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Avatar-The-Way-of-Water-(2022)#tab=b
ox-office
They're not even going to come close to that predicted $61.5 Million for the second weekend now.
EDIT: Strange. Avatar's page shows only $1.5 Million, but the daily for yesterday says $15 Million. This is likely a glitch, although I can't figure out how it would happen. I can't imagine the dude running the-numbers has to enter in the daily take of a movie in two separate places and he made a typo. That would be a really stupid database for him to be working off of with all the data that he sifts through on a daily basis.
I'm going to say it made $15 Million on Christmas Eve and the $1.5 Million is a goof.
That's still down 66% from last Saturday, and the new weekend prediction with current Christmas Day projections is $56 Million, which is 58% down from last weekend.
Top Gun: Maverick's 2nd weekend drop was only 29%.
James Cameron might be working at WalMart by this time next year.
EDIT 2: Yeah. It was a glitch and looks to be fixed. Avatar's page now shows a $15M projection for Christmas Eve. Wish I still had that tab open so I could screenshot it and/or archive it, but it's gone forever.
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Looks like America's Box Office is pulling some Arizona 2022 Mid-Terms shenanigans.
China has already reported Avatar 2's figures up through the 26th, yet the entire weekend box office for all movies hasn't gotten an official tally. Not even for Friday or Saturday, and it's Tuesday morning.
Avatar 2's supposed projected take for the Holiday weekend has now inexplicably climbed from $56 Million up to $64 Million, which is $2.5 Million more than it was projected to make before going into the brutal cold weekend.
I'm wondering if you can even take these numbers seriously anymore. Didn't Disney just recently get caught inflating numbers for something else and angering share holders?
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Today, from some dumb Russia thread the mongoloids keep posting on: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64887
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Let me check if 6ix has posted anything else paranoid today. Yes, 6ix did, which indicates that he will never lose an argument on the internet, mostly because he is too nutty to understand how paranoid he is.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Posting argumentatively is a lot more fun, and when something is posted with irrefutable proof (and usually proof of something they don't want to admit is true), it never gets any rebuttals.
I have an extremely long post history here where my threads get either one single post with no interaction, or I've shut it down in the low single digits.
Conversely, look at all of these bullshit Russia threads with hundreds and hundreds of posts, or the Trump Tick Tock threads that are as old as 6 years that will never have the resolution they want so they'll just continue on until Trump dies of old age or Haken turns the lights out.Quote:http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64470&mid=11671
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Looks like America's Box Office is pulling some Arizona 2022 Mid-Terms shenanigans.
China has already reported Avatar 2's figures up through the 26th, yet the entire weekend box office for all movies hasn't gotten an official tally. Not even for Friday or Saturday, and it's Tuesday morning.
Avatar 2's supposed projected take for the Holiday weekend has now inexplicably climbed from $56 Million up to $64 Million, which is $2.5 Million more than it was projected to make before going into the brutal cold weekend.
I'm wondering if you can even take these numbers seriously anymore. Didn't Disney just recently get caught inflating numbers for something else and angering share holders?
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Paranoid? lol
Why would I be paranoid about that? I don't own Disney stock. I have no dog in that race.
Just pointing out that Covid-riddled China has been able to report the movie's earnings up until yesterday already and the US can't even put Friday's numbers up by Tuesday morning (which is something that has NEVER happened before), after they've been silently bumping up their weekend projections they made before they knew what a clusterfuck storm was coming in the background with no explanations why.
We know why. Disney has been putting out flop after flop all year, in between one or two flicks that just barely limped across the finish line and broke even. Their stock is down more than 55% from it's March of 2021 high already, and admitting Avatar 2 is a flop will ruin them.
Disney Stock Price Drop:
$197.16 March 12th, 2021
$87.45 December 27th, 2022
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Disney accounts for 3 of the 5 Top 10 movies that they still haven't figured out for Friday, let alone the weekend take yet. 2 out of 3 if we're only counting movies that grossed over $1 Million for the holiday weekend. Imagine that, huh?
Keep on cooking those books, Disney. See where it gets you when your shareholders already losing their asses find out.
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Hollywood was kinda dying, Avengers was peak
then you had the political crazy head-job that global politicians pulled on billions of people for two years with Covid.
Next was putting weird tranny Antifa feminist BLM pro-jihad Anti-American politics in movies
Movies finally make a comeback?
The Weinstein scandals never went away and Justice League Star Ezra MillerAccused Of Supplying a 12 yr old Minor With Drugs / Alcohol
Politically Hollywood Destroys Itself
Voice over Toons and AI might take jobs
'The Super Mario Bros. Movie Powers Up Past $1 Billion Worldwide'
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-super-mario-bros-movie-powers-up
-past-1-billion-worldwide/1100-6513719/
Is Hollywood being weird political and degenerate because they are degenerate political and a bunch of weirdos
all stats, no well written scripts and lots of diversity hire numbers, directors simply don't have the authority they once did so there's no singular vision
Platos theatre, the fall of Greece and Rome, critics of poets and last few chapter’s of ‘Republic’ to know exactly why giving them rioter and sleazy types too much power is supposed to always 'bad' the Actors and Theater people tend to be very open to nonsense and emotional people so they really jive with the emotional crazy insane political movements
the types defending Polanski shows Hollyweird culture... and greedy... and scummy.
some previous opinions
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Diversity Is Destroying the MCU; Marvel Producer Confirms It’s The Future
https://cosmicbook.news/diversity-destroying-mcu-marvel-producer-futur
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Why do these anti-SJW grifters just accept that Hollywood wants to have representation and diversity in their movies and shows?
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-these-anti-SJW-grifters-just-accept-that-
Hollywood-wants-to-have-representation-and-diversity-in-their-movies-and-shows
Warner Bros. Discovery Caves to Woke Hollywood Mob, Reverses Decision to Close Diversity Workshop
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/10/13/warner-bros-discove
ry-caves-to-woke-hollywood-mob-reverses-decision-to-close-diversity-workshop/
When will Hollywood learn that 'woke' remakes will always fail and flop, and that nobody wants to see them?
https://www.quora.com/When-will-Hollywood-learn-that-woke-remakes-will
-always-fail-and-flop-and-that-nobody-wants-to-see-them
Men in Black (woke SJW edition) just failed terribly. When is Hollywood going to get the hint that people are sick of this crap?
https://www.girlsaskguys.com/social-relationships/q3757497-men-in-blac
k-woke-sjw-edition-just-failed-terribly-when-is-hollywood
Get Woke Go Broke: 10 Hollywood Movies That Flopped
https://neonnettle.com/features/1991-get-woke-go-broke-10-hollywood-mo
vies-that-flopped
Entertainment industry continues to push toxic 'woke' messaging
Woke movies are a flop
https://pirates-forum.org/Thread-Woke-movies-are-a-flop
Some Fans Complain ‘Jurassic World: Dominion’ Is Too “Woke”
https://www.screengeek.net/2022/06/13/jurassic-world-dominion-woke-com
plaints/
The Most Hilarious Woke Pop Culture Fails Of 2021
https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/01/02/the-most-hilarious-woke-pop-
culture-fails-of-2021/
Hollywood's woke woes continue as BROS flops
https://ege-forum.freeforums.net/thread/383/hollywoods-woke-woes-conti
nue-flops
Did Amazon ruin Wheel of Time with "Forced Diversity"?
https://swedishretard.substack.com/p/did-amazon-ruin-wheel-of-time-wit
h
Yes, and I hold Jeff Bezos personally responsible
Young Adults Fed Up with SJW and LGBTQ Tyranny
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/10/young_adults_fed_up_w
ith_sjw_and_lgbtq_tyranny.html
Diversity is not a Virtue: Don't play the SJW game
https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/diversity-is-not-
a-virtue-don-t-play-the-sjw-game/?PHPSESSID=890b295c18773b04709e52f6ed9523a0
Diversity/Feminism/SJW is killing Comics and they don't even know it
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/diversity-feminism-sjw-is-killing-c
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'The Super Mario Bros. Movie Powers Up Past $1 Billion Worldwide'
https://deadline.com/2023/04/super-mario-bros-movie-crosses-one-billio
n-global-box-office-1235341660/
Peaches & Green: ‘Super Mario Bros Movie’ Tops $1B Worldwide; Smashes Studio Records In Japan – International Box Office
It's now the 4th highest Animated Film in the Domestic Box office only behind:
Incredibles 2 (Disney): $608,581,744
The Lion King (Disney): $543,638,043
Beauty and the Beast (Disney): $504,014,165
Super Mario: (Universal): $490,016,000
I doubt very much it would ever cross the $600 Million mark in the US and be the highest grossing animated film ever, but it will beat Beauty and the Beast on Friday night, and my prediction from back on April 21st that it will overtake The Lion King before the end of it's run and make 14th place all time Domestic is all but set in stone at this point.
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Blade got back on track to start filming next month, The Hollywood Reporter says Marvel Studios is halting pre-production on the film immediately due to the ongoing writers' strike.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvels-blade-dela
yed-writers-strike-1235480828/
Blade a film, comicbook, anime, and tv franchise based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name, starring Wesley Snipes as Blade in the original trilogy. The character was created for Marvel Comics by writer Marv Wolfman and artist Gene Colan as a supporting character in the 1970s comic The Tomb of Dracula. In the comic, Blade's mother was bitten by a vampire while she was in labor with Blade, rendering him immune to being turned into a vampire; following the release of Blade; the character was retroactively made into a 'dhampir' and redesigned to match his film counterpart. A reboot was expected in year 2024
Recent Flops? Antman Quantumania, West Side Story remake or revamp, Babylon 2022, Lightyear, The Suicide Squad, Amsterdam 2022, Black Adam, The Matrix Resurrections...and now a writers strike!
Top Gun, the newest Spider-Man and Avatar made money
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Avatar
,
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=Avatar
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Blade got back on track to start filming next month, The Hollywood Reporter says Marvel Studios is halting pre-production on the film immediately due to the ongoing writers' strike.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvels-blade-dela
yed-writers-strike-1235480828/
Blade a film, comicbook, anime, and tv franchise based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name, starring Wesley Snipes as Blade in the original trilogy. The character was created for Marvel Comics by writer Marv Wolfman and artist Gene Colan as a supporting character in the 1970s comic The Tomb of Dracula. In the comic, Blade's mother was bitten by a vampire while she was in labor with Blade, rendering him immune to being turned into a vampire; following the release of Blade; the character was retroactively made into a 'dhampir' and redesigned to match his film counterpart. A reboot was expected in year 2024
I really, really hope they don't screw this one up.
The first two Blade movies are two of my favorite comic book movies of all time. That's not saying much from me since I pretty much hate the genre today, but when I saw both of them in the theater I LOVED them. (I never did see much of the third one except for maybe 30 minutes of it on commercial TV).
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Recent Flops? Antman Quantumania, West Side Story remake or revamp, Babylon 2022, Lightyear, The Suicide Squad, Amsterdam 2022, Black Adam, The Matrix Resurrections...and now a writers strike!
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"Oppenheimer" is scheduled to be released theatrically on July 21, 2023, by Universal Pictures (which released a flop called "Serenity"). Considering the film's budget and marketing costs, Variety stated that the film will need to gross at least $400 million worldwide to make a profit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppenheimer_%28film%29
Even if Oppenheimer flops, director Christopher Nolan will profit. Some of Nolan's demands included 20 percent of the film's first-dollar gross**, a production budget of $100 million and an equal marketing budget, a theatrical window of at least 100 days, and a three-week period before and after the film's release in which Universal could not release another new film.
Even if Oppenheimer crashes, the actors will profit. Robert Downey Jr., Matt Damon, and Emily Blunt took pay cuts to work on the film, earning $4 million each in lieu of their usual $10–20 million salaries. Again, these actors are paid $4 million whether or not Oppenheimer is profitable.
**First-dollar gross is a practice in filmmaking in which the participant receives a percentage of the gross box-office revenue, starting from a film's first day of release. The participant begins sharing in the profits from the first ticket sale, not waiting until the film studio turns a profit.
Who is this Oppenheimer? He is not Batman! Read about him in Oppenheimer I: “An unctuous, repulsively good little boy”
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2023/05/oppenheimer-i-an-unctuou
s-repulsively-good-little-boy.html
Who is director Christopher Nolan? His two most recent movies for comparison: Dunkirk (2017) vs. Tenet (2020)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Dunkirk-(2017)/T
enet-(2020)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
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Hollywood is stuck making the same lame movies over and over again
https://nypost.com/2023/04/10/hollywood-is-making-the-same-lame-movies
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Shazam 2 Becomes the Worst-Ever Box Office Earner In DCEU History
https://thedirect.com/article/shazam-2-dceu-box-office
Flop Post: Shazam 2 ends its run as a massive bomb
https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/125952185.html
Box office
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt10151854/
Domestic Opening
$30,111,158
Numbers
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Shazam-Fury-of-the-Gods-(2022)#tab=s
ummary
Opening Weekend $30,111,158 (52.2% of total gross)
Not sure how much marketing and distribution cost
https://web.archive.org/web/20230318153406/https://www.hollywoodreport
er.com/movies/movie-news/shazam-fury-gods-box-office-opening-1235355902/
https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/shazam-fury-of-the-gods-dc-co
mics-opening-day-1235555972/
'Budget $110–125 million'
Seems the entire Warner Bros Batman Superman or the DC is getting another Reboot?
Ant-Man FLOPS at the Box Office, but will Marvel Change?
The best superhero movies that aren’t Marvel or DC but are worth a watch
https://www.polygon.com/what-to-watch/22961992/best-superhero-movies-n
ot-marvel-dc-streaming
Best Non-Marvel or DC Superhero Movies, Ranked
https://movieweb.com/superhero-movies-genre-not-marvel-dc-best/
While Marvel and DC films are the first that come to mind when talking about superhero movies, there are plenty that exists outside of the franchises
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Hollywood’s Death Spiral, Part 2
Are movie theaters facing extinction?
By Edward Jay Epstein
Aug 01, 2005
The $64 billion question in Hollywood these days is what to do about collapsing the boundary between a movie’s theatrical and video release—the so-called video window. Gradually, this window has shrunk from six months to four months—and, in the case of many children’s movies—to three months. Even worse, DVD releases are often announced while a movie is still playing in the multiplexes. As a result, more moviegoers now wait to buy or rent a movie on DVD, which leads to shorter theatrical runs and a fall in worldwide theater attendance, which in turn puts more pressure on the studios to shorten the window even further.
This death spiral was set in motion by the studios themselves about four years ago. The decision to shorten the video window did not proceed from a new technological development—such as TV in the 1940s or the video cassette in the 1970s—or a change in popular taste. As a top studio executive explained to me, “It was a voluntary decision made for purely financial reasons by the major players. It was done to satisfy quarterly profit goals, nothing more, nothing less.” In short, the studios changed their business model so that they could opportunistically sell DVDs, which, after all, are a conventional retail product like soap or toys.
The continuing pressure to further shorten the video window comes, not surprisingly, from the Young Turks in the lucrative home-entertainment divisions of the studios. In the first quarter of 2005, these divisions were producing more than two-thirds of the revenues for the six studios. Their main battleground is the shelf space of Wal-Mart and other giant retailers, and, to prevail—and further increase quarterly earnings—the home-entertainment divisions need to release DVDs during the hottest sales periods, such as Christmas and Thanksgiving, instead of waiting for an artificial window to open.
The main resistance to this change comes from the old-guard studio executives who fear that undercutting the movie-theater business will—even if it improves DVD sales—unravel the very foundations of Hollywood. They argue that the theatrical platform, to which the PR hoopla, magazine covers, TV talk shows, and the rest of the celebrity-worshiping culture is geared, transforms movies into media events that generate worldwide DVD sales. For them, the issue is how to keep the theatrical platform alive.
The most radical proposal is to eliminate the windowing system entirely. In this scenario, the studios would simultaneously release a title in theaters, video stores, and on pay-per-view, and the title would require only a single marketing campaign. The audience could then choose which format best fits its wallet and clock. Proponents of this plan envision that it will shift some part of the theater audience to either DVD (which has higher profit margins than theatrical distribution) or pay-per-view (which has higher profit margins than DVD). Even so, they hold that movie theaters will retain a core audience, since there will always be people who prefer the theater experience or who just want to get out of the house.
More at https://slate.com/culture/2005/08/hollywood-s-death-spiral-part-2.html
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Hollywood’s Death Spiral, Part 2
Are movie theaters facing extinction?
DVD's and Pay-Per-View, huh?
18 years, 2 recessions, several active shooter incidents, a severe worldwide overreaction to a cold, Bidenflation, video streaming, piracy and Hollywood's obsession with its Marxist agenda still haven't made this dude's prediction come true yet.
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Quote:You obsessively quote from https://www.the-numbers.com/ which only reports theater tickets sales. Eighteen years ago, the lucrative home-entertainment divisions of the studios in the first quarter of 2005 were producing more than two-thirds of the revenues for the six studios. That revenue is NOT included at https://www.the-numbers.com/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Hollywood’s Death Spiral, Part 2
Are movie theaters facing extinction?
DVD's and Pay-Per-View, huh?
18 years, 2 recessions, several active shooter incidents, a severe worldwide overreaction to a cold, Bidenflation, video streaming, piracy and Hollywood's obsession with its Marxist agenda still haven't made this dude's prediction come true yet.
If all movie theaters close, that two-thirds of the revenues will continue.
It is kind of funny that China makes almost as many films as Hollywood. Maybe Hollywood should hire the Chinese to make Hollywood movies?
1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie $1,210,450,000
2 Man Jiang Hong $673,556,758
3 Liu Lang Di Qiu 2 $604,380,922
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 $528,801,000
5 Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania $464,568,990
6 John Wick: Chapter 4 $418,934,189
7 Creed III $272,341,680
8 Xiong Chu Md Ban Wo Xiong Xin $221,590,000
9 Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves $205,670,000
10 Scream VI $168,910,085
11 Wu Ming $139,083,591
12 Shen Hai $136,090,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2023
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You obsessively quote from https://www.the-numbers.com/ which only reports theater tickets sales. Eighteen years ago, the lucrative home-entertainment divisions of the studios in the first quarter of 2005 were producing more than two-thirds of the revenues for the six studios. That revenue is NOT included at https://www.the-numbers.com/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Hollywood’s Death Spiral, Part 2
Are movie theaters facing extinction?
DVD's and Pay-Per-View, huh?
18 years, 2 recessions, several active shooter incidents, a severe worldwide overreaction to a cold, Bidenflation, video streaming, piracy and Hollywood's obsession with its Marxist agenda still haven't made this dude's prediction come true yet.
If all movie theaters close, that two-thirds of the revenues will continue.
False: DVD/BluRay sales for every movie ARE included at The Numbers
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Avengers-Endgame-(2019)#tab=summary
Avengers: End Game
Domestic Box Office $858,373,000
International Box Office $1,936,358,755
Worldwide Box Office $2,794,731,755
Home Market Performance
Est. Domestic DVD Sales $23,951,994
Est. Domestic Blu-ray Sales $83,890,969
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales $107,842,963
Total theater and home sales: $2,902,574,718
% of total that were home sales: 3.715%
3.715% is not 2/3rds of anything.
18 years ago we didn't have movie streaming which has destroyed physical copy sales. They haven't figured out how to properly monetize streaming either, and now that there are too many streaming services and they can't keep growing by gaining new customers, they're all losing money with their streaming services.
Movie theaters are far more important to Hollywood today than they were 18 years ago.
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Quote:6ix, you hate Disney the most of any Hollywood company. It turns out that movie tickets aren't important to Disney. Content Sales/Licensing and Other represents only 11% of Disney’s revenue. The segment includes the following operations: theatrical distribution; home entertainment distribution, such as DVD and Blu-ray; music distribution; staging and licensing of live entertainment events on Broadway and around the world; post-production services through Industrial Light & Magic and Skywalker Sound; and a 30% ownership interest in Tata Sky Ltd., an India-based operator of a direct-to-home satellite distribution platform.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
18 years ago we didn't have movie streaming which has destroyed physical copy sales. They haven't figured out how to properly monetize streaming either, and now that there are too many streaming services and they can't keep growing by gaining new customers, they're all losing money with their streaming services.
Movie theaters are far more important to Hollywood today than they were 18 years ago.
https://www.investopedia.com/how-disney-makes-money-4799164
6ix, in case you missed the point, the LEAST significant revenue for Disney is movie tickets, DVDs and Blu-ray, which total LESS than 11% of all Disney revenue.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you hate Disney the most of any Hollywood company. It turns out that movie tickets aren't important to Disney. Content Sales/Licensing and Other represents only 11% of Disney’s revenue. The segment includes the following operations: theatrical distribution; home entertainment distribution, such as DVD and Blu-ray; music distribution; staging and licensing of live entertainment events on Broadway and around the world; post-production services through Industrial Light & Magic and Skywalker Sound; and a 30% ownership interest in Tata Sky Ltd., an India-based operator of a direct-to-home satellite distribution platform.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
18 years ago we didn't have movie streaming which has destroyed physical copy sales. They haven't figured out how to properly monetize streaming either, and now that there are too many streaming services and they can't keep growing by gaining new customers, they're all losing money with their streaming services.
Movie theaters are far more important to Hollywood today than they were 18 years ago.
https://www.investopedia.com/how-disney-makes-money-4799164
6ix, in case you missed the point, the LEAST significant revenue for Disney is movie tickets, DVDs and Blu-ray, which total LESS than 11% of all Disney revenue.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Lies and/or ignorance.
You are a very stupid, simple person.
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Quote:Too bad for you but movie ticket sales are the SMALLEST part of Disney. Why should Disney care that 6ix thinks tickets are the biggest? Walt Disney began moving away from film-making when he opened the first Disneyland in California. Walt Disney moved further away from the boom-or-bust movie industry when he opened Disney World in Florida. He was definitely in the real estate business more than the movie business when he bought and bulldozed and burned Florida orange groves 60 years ago for his amusement park.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Lies and/or ignorance.
You are a very stupid, simple person.
Disney Revenues: How Does DIS Make Money?
Last Updated: 5/16/2023
https://www.trefis.com/data/companies/DIS/no-login-required/Q88UwdYL/D
isney-Revenues-How-Does-DIS-Make-Money-
Movie ticket sales have gotten worse at Disney, recently:
(3) Content Sales, Licensing & Other: $6.4 Bil 7% of total revenue.
+ Change in Content Sales, Licensing & Other: $-3.8 Bil (Down 3.8 billion)
WHAT IS BIG?
(1) Linear Networks: $30 Bil 33%
(2) Direct To Consumer: $22 Bil 24%
(3) Content Sales, Licensing & Other: $6.4 Bil 7%
(4) Disney's U.S. Hotels & Theme Parks: $23 Bil 26%
(5) Disney's International Hotels & Theme Parks: $4.0 Bil 4%
(6) Consumer Products & Interactive Media: $5.5 Bil 6%
TOTAL Revenues in FY2023: $91 Bil 100%
Has 6 Operating Segments:
(1) Linear Networks: This division includes revenue from Disney's cable channels such as ESPN, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, and broadcast channels such as ABC. Revenues come in the form of affiliate fees, advertising sales and TV and SVOD distribution.
(2) Direct To Consumer: This division includes Disney's streaming offerings such as Disney+, ESPN+, and Hulu. The segment generates revenues via subscription fees and advertising.
(3) Content Sales, Licensing & Other: This division consists of Disney's produced and acquired content that it markets through various channels such as theatrical market, home entertainment market, and TV and Subscription video-on-demand distribution.
(4) Disney's U.S. Hotels & Theme Parks: Includes revenues from Disney's U.S. hotels and resorts. Key properties include The Walt Disney World Resort in Florida, Disneyland Resort in California, Disney Resort & Spa in Hawaii, the Disney Vacation Club and Disney's Cruise Line.
(5) Disney's International Hotels & Theme Parks: This division includes Disney's international parks & resorts in Paris, Hong Kong, Shanghai and Japan
(6) Consumer Products & Interactive Media: The consumer products segment sells merchandise based on its characters, which includes products such as toys, apparel, stationery, consumer electronics, food, books, magazines, and more.
WHAT HAS CHANGED?
Over FY2020-23
Change in Linear Networks: $2.2 Bil
+ Change in Direct To Consumer: $11 Bil
+ Change in Content Sales, Licensing & Other: $-3.8 Bil Movie Tickets!
+ Change in Disney's U.S. Hotels & Theme Parks: $13 Bil
+ Change in Disney's International Hotels & Theme Parks: $2.0 Bil
+ Change in Consumer Products & Interactive Media: $700 Mil
TOTAL Change FY2020-23: $26 Bil
+ Disney Revenues in FY2020 $65 Bil
= TOTAL Revenues in FY2023 $91 Bil
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Even if any of that were true, it wouldn't be good news for Disney.
Disney lost 4 Million subs to Disney+ for the 2nd quarter in a row.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/10/disney-q2-2023-results/
Current and former executives at Disney are being sued for lying about their Disney+ performance.
https://www.thewrap.com/disney-bob-chapek-lawsuit-disney-plus-streamin
g/
Disney toys aren't selling:
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/04/23/toy-executive-confirms-lack-
of-demand-for-disneys-star-wars-sequel-trilogy-products/
https://thatparkplace.com/exclusive-expert-toy-industry-insider-reveal
s-marvel-and-star-wars-merch-struggles/
https://comicsgate.org/2022/09/01/woke-toys-dont-sell-disney-losing-bi
llions-destroying-its-brands-todd-mcfarlane-on-the-flash/
Disney Theme Parks are losing:
https://insidethemagic.net/2023/05/hong-kong-disneyland-visitor-record
-financial-losses-cj1/
https://www.deseret.com/2022/11/28/23482803/disney-parks-popular-profi
ts-waning-florida-hurricane-bob-iger
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/11/21/disney-theme-park
s-price-hikes-and-ride-failures-angered-customers-ahead-of-bob-chapek-departure-ceo/?sh=3a9d90297cc5
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disneys-theme-parks-are-sore-spot-for-inv
estors-too-11669613538
https://www.disneydining.com/disney-park-sees-7th-year-in-a-row-with-n
o-profit-reports-2-4-billion-loss-bb1/
https://www.frommers.com/trip-ideas/theme-park/4-signs-that-disney-par
ks-are-in-a-lot-more-trouble-than-people-think
Disney stock was worth $197.16 on March 12th, 2021. It's currently worth $91.41.
Maybe Disney should get out of Hollywood altogether and focus on all of the other aspects of its failing company, starting with firing all of the Marxists that are responsible for cutting their stock price in half.
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Quote:You called me a liar and Disney employees Commies. 6ix, you are retarded, but never forget: Trump will be fine.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Even if any of that were true, it wouldn't be good news for Disney.
Disney lost 4 Million subs to Disney+ for the 2nd quarter in a row
Disney stock was worth $197.16 on March 12th, 2021. It's currently worth $91.41.
Maybe Disney should get out of Hollywood altogether and focus on all of the other aspects of its failing company, starting with firing all of the Marxists that are responsible for cutting their stock price in half.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You called me a liar and Disney employees Commies. 6ix, you are retarded, but never forget: Trump will be fine.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Even if any of that were true, it wouldn't be good news for Disney.
Disney lost 4 Million subs to Disney+ for the 2nd quarter in a row
Disney stock was worth $197.16 on March 12th, 2021. It's currently worth $91.41.
Maybe Disney should get out of Hollywood altogether and focus on all of the other aspects of its failing company, starting with firing all of the Marxists that are responsible for cutting their stock price in half.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You ARE a liar. Disney employees ARE Marxists. Trump WILL be fine.
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Quote:Comparatively, few make movies. Most Disney employees work at Disney World and Disney Land:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Disney employees ARE Marxists.
Average Salaries at Disney Parks, Experiences and Products
Popular Roles
Actor $15.38 per hour
Arts & Entertainment
Entertainer $17.23 per hour
Character Performer $14.66 per hour
Performer $17.55 per hour
Food Preparation & Service
Food Service Worker $15.37 per hour
Busser $15.85 per hour
https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Disney-Parks,-Experiences-and-Products/sala
ries
At these wages, Disney employees are homeless unless somebody in their family is also working.
“A conservative survey of Magic Kingdom Cast Members, full-time, found out that ten percent of Magic Kingdom Cast Members are currently homeless,” Jessica explained. Jan 16, 2023
https://insidethemagic.net/2023/01/former-homeless-cast-member-disney-
world-jc1/
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‘The Flash’ Loses Speed With $60M 3-Day Opening: Here’s Why
https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-the-flash-bomb-elemental-12354
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Comparatively, few make movies.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Disney employees ARE Marxists.
Yes. I misspoke. I don't talk shit about low-level service employees, of which I've spent half of my adult life as one. They get shit on enough by entitled customers.
Of course I meant those in the movie business, as well as the executives in any department and the entire worldwide HR department.
Those that aren't either were already fired or they were "re-educated" and do a damn good job pretending they are because their continued employment requires it.
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‘The Flash’ Loses Speed With $60M 3-Day Opening: Here’s Why
https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-the-flash-bomb-elemental-12354
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I'm not going to say I didn't see this one coming, but despite a lot of youtubers saying that Michael Keaton's return as Batman (my all time favorite Batman) wasn't going to save the movie I didn't really know what to think.
I also don't have nearly as big of a grotch against WB as I do Disney, so I didn't feel the need to make a prediction there that may or may not have come true.
And, honestly, from the clips I've seen of the movie, it really doesn't look that bad. I actually stopped watching once the REAL Batman made an appearance, because although I won't pay to see this one in the theater simply because of Ezra being the star, I do intend to watch it at some point... which is something I only have ever said about a very small handful of super hero movies since 2008's Iron Man brought the dozens upon dozens of them we've had in the last 1.5 decades.
The reasons stated in the article are probably legitimate for the most part, but let's be real here. Ezra was the reason this is going to fail. Boycotts are working all over the place now. The Left has overplayed their hand and the normies are all waking up to everything going wrong right now. 5 years ago with the Legacy Media coverup of Ezra's persona, none of the normies would be the wiser. Hell... they would have still had him on Jimmy Kimmel to promote the movie back then. This time they knew better and kept him as quiet as possible but it still didn't work.
And that $70 Million prediction it's not going to hit? That was already a severe downgrade to what they were saying it would get a month or two ago, and with a $200 Million production budget, this movie would have been a flop even if it did gross $70 Million US domestically on the first weekend.
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‘The Flash’ Plummets at Box Office With Second Weekend Drop of Over 70%
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/flash-plummets-box-office-second-1
50542129.html
We've had almost a 5 yr run of flops
Cinema sales probably peaked years ago with Dark Knight, Avatar, the Harry Potters, Avengers Endgame. Some movies still make money in a post Covid economy, a new Spider-Man the Top Gun remake, Super Mario Bros. Movie, but there are a lot of flops in recent years the New Space Jam, Solo A Star Wars Story, Matrix Resurrections, Black Adam, nu Feminist Ghost Busters, Fantastic Four, Terminator Dark Fate, nu Power Rangers 2017, Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets....Lots of failure, sales that bombed a box office turkey, some of these flops dated before Covid-19, before the new Left politics and Trump Left vs Right era politics, its difficult to say when cinematic blockbuster movies died but they probably in t he next few years will never be as big as they once were not for a long while again.
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Bah...
I think cinema will improve faster than the naysayers think that they will.
It seems like it's been forever now since this all started, but two things are happening that weren't happening before. The first being the inflation brought on by the very people that destroyed entertainment in the first place, and the fact that everyone is waking up to all of this shit and doesn't want it in their lives anymore.
Venture capital has all but dried up. The Woke Experiment is over.
We're going to have to deal with it just a little while longer since contracts had been signed and "entertainment" had been made... and there's a writer's strike right now to boot, but the right people are being fired or will be purged by attrition.
I'd give the next renaissance in entertainment 5 years max. Probably less than that.
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Basketball Actor
https://files.catbox.moe/0tf6um.mp4
Indiana Jones 5 star reveals she asked for script change over ‘offensive’ and ‘problematic’ scene
https://yahoo.com/indiana-jones-5-star-reveals-174754275.html
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Warner Bros. Studio Fire Caused by Blown Transformer: 'More Flashy and Bad Than It Was'
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/warner-bros-studio-fire-caused-032
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‘Transformers: Rise of the Beasts’ review: Another annoying robo-flop
https://nypost.com/2023/06/08/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-review-a
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Here is another thing Hollyweirdo is missing, Hollyweirds has no Actors upcoming coming from any schools!!! How many young actors can you name?
For example we can maybe name people in their late 30s, 40 years old, 50, 60, 70+ years we can name some almost 1 hundred years old, each that defined each movie decade etc Robert Downey Jr, Kim Basinger, Nicole Kidman, Will Smith, Jamie Foxx, David Bowie, Moe Howard, Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, Jennifer Connelly, Val Kilmer, Tom Cruise, Gary Oldman, Alec Baldwin, Adam Baldwin, Chris Hemsworth, Morena Baccarin, Richard Dreyfuss, Ed Harris, Benicio del Toro, Anthony Hopkins, Jeff Bridges, Brigitte Bardot, Dustin Hoffman, Rosie O'Donnell, John Travolta, Sting, O.J. Simpson, Hulk Hogan, Roseanne Barr, Liam Neeson, Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, Jack Nickolson, Chuck Norris, Patrick Stewart, Richard Dreyfus, Frank Sinatra, Charles Bronson, Katharine Hepburn, Stan Lee, Gene Wilder, Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, DeNiro, Al Pacino, Katie Holmes, Jason Momoa, Steven Seagal, Ed Harris, Kevin Kostner, Sylvester Stallone, Meg Ryan, Sean Penn, Christian Bale, Sam Neill, Milla Jovovich, Daniel Day-Lewis, Audrey Hepburn, Diana Ross, James Dean, Christoper Reeve, David Attenborough, Charlton Heston, Pierce Brosnan, Michael Keaton, John C Reilly, Dennis Rodman, Christopher Lee, Dean Martin, Mel Brooks, Maureen O'Hara, Tina Turner, Clint Eastwood, Van Damme, Macaulay Culkin, Jamie Lee Curtis, Volodymyr Zeileninskyi, Kurt Russell, Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger dead, that dead guy River Phoenix, Paul Walker the actor who died,
but name any NEW ACTORS
'Miles Teller' was in a TopGun remake, 'Brie Larson' in Room or KingKong or super hero movies.
There are the two young actor in the Dune remake, Tom Holland who did a remake of Spider-Man and the same girl acting in Spider-Man.
I guess you have 'Twilight' or Harry Potter actors
Who else is there, the kids of some Royal Family? a viral kid in a you tube social media vid that went viral
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I dunno man. I could hardly tell you the names of any bands/groups that make music today either.
I'm not sure how much any of this has to do with there being less talent or us just getting older and not caring as much as we did when we were younger.
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Movie Budgets Are Out Of Control And It’s Destroying Hollywood
By Jonathan Klotz | July 7, 2023
Limitations breed creativity, which is why the original Star Wars trilogy is better than the Disney films, and why the latest blockbusters seem to be the same movie we’ve seen hundreds of times. Scaling back production budgets and cutting back the inane marketing, which most people tune out anyways, is the easiest way for Hollywood to start making money again.
And hopefully, in doing so, they make movies people want to see.
Hollywood studios are facing a disaster of their own making this year, facing declining box office returns, but it’s not audience apathy in the latest films about family, remakes, and sequels that are proving to be destructive. The biggest problem is rapidly ballooning movie budgets that require a film to earn over $750 million before it turns a profit.
Movie budgets are astronomically high and it’s resulted in every blockbuster to be branded as a failure, financially and creatively.
Studios are usually secretive about production budgets, but even the numbers that are shared are eye-popping; for example, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny had a budget of $300 million (all budgets via BoxOfficeMojo). That’s enough for #11 all-time, but it’s not even the highest of the year.
Fast X was made with a budget of $340 million, making it more expensive than Avengers: Infinity War and Justice League. That means, in order to turn a profit, Vin Diesel‘s latest would need to earn $680 million, which it did, with a worldwide gross of $720 million. Yet the film still managed to lose money for Universal.
Movie budgets hitting all-time highs are only one part of the problem since they don’t include whatever was spent on marketing. Every television ad, every billboard, and every restaurant promotion costs money. For blockbusters, the marketing budget can match production; using the example of Dial of Destiny, the marketing was an additional $100 to $200 million.
More at https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/movie-budgets-destroying-hollywo
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Budgets for Hollywood movies are out-of-control, but do you want to know where Hollywood has cutback spending? The pay to writers. The following article describes how Hollywood abuses its writers. It is no surprise that Hollywood movies are crap because, if the big-shots can't understand how to be civilized and decent with their writers the big-shots can't understand their audiences, either.
July 7, 2023
POV: I’m an experienced screenwriter — and I’m also on welfare. My story highlights the importance of the writers’ strike
Unfortunately, being a screenwriter is a job for rich people.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90918934/my-story-highlights-the-importanc
e-of-the-writers-strike
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Budgets for Hollywood movies are out-of-control, but do you want to know where Hollywood has cutback spending? The pay to writers. The following article describes how Hollywood abuses its writers. It is no surprise that Hollywood movies are crap because, if the big-shots can't understand how to be civilized and decent with their writers the big-shots can't understand their audiences, either.
July 7, 2023
POV: I’m an experienced screenwriter — and I’m also on welfare. My story highlights the importance of the writers’ strike
Unfortunately, being a screenwriter is a job for rich people.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90918934/my-story-highlights-the-importanc
e-of-the-writers-strike
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Almost nobody hired to do the job is any good at it. There's a few reasons for this:
1. The industry has done what every other industry does and pushed out the expensive talent in favor of paying young people with little experience very little money to do the job.
2. These young people tick all the right boxes, whether they be the diversity hires that the studios are looking for themselves, or they are young college-educated kids who are fully on board with the messaging the studios want to put out there.
3. Hollywood makes the mistake of hiring almost exclusively out of California, which means that the writers are completely out of touch not just with the rest of the country, but the rest of the entire world.
If we were anywhere between the 1930s and the early 2000's the idea of replacing writers with AI would be inconceivable. But with the style and ability the current crop of Hollywood writers possess, they're not doing anything that AI can't already do better. THAT is how Hollywood is going to fix the problem of not paying their writers enough money. They're just going to stop paying them altogether because their jobs won't even exist anymore.
AI, at least what is available to civilians in current year, is not capable of doing everything on its own, so this will not be a fully automated process. But they'll just need a few editors to take what the AI makes and alter it to come off more human and sand off the rough edges. This will be especially valuable to the production companies in charge of late-night talk shows and things like SNL. Why pay an entire room of middle-talent, mostly unfunny people to write this stuff when you can just pay one or two people to sift through all of the AI generated jokes and punch them up to work right?
Strangely, if done right, this could actually make for much better shows. With the money freed up by not paying 20 always-angry people with an agenda that used to write unfunny jokes on a show, they could hire 2 or 3 ACTUALLY TALENTED people to dress up the AI inspired jokes and you could end up with TV shows that are actually capable of making people laugh again.
But that's only going to work if Hollywood decides it wants to make money again instead of always preaching to the audience. AI can also be extremely capable at being just as bad of a writer as the worst writers in Hollywood today too, if that's what they're going for.
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‘Blue Beetle’ Box Office Prediction: Can the Second-to-Last DCEU Movie Break Even at Least?
https://www.comicbasics.com/blue-beetle-box-office-prediction/
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Blockbusters are failing spectacularly, but how that changes Hollywood is anyone's guess
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/box-office-slump-2023-1.6906554
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When studios can say that a movie succeeded on a streaming platform without an independent way to verify the claim, it makes it impossible to identify the true failures.
"'Big flop' as a term, or 'bomb,' doesn't mean anything," Michael said. "They keep those numbers to themselves, and there's no clear metric like a ticket sale.
"If a studio has a choice, they're not going to set up a second paradigm where they have to constantly announce that these plans backfire or these embarrassing flops."
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Barbie and Oppenheimer made money but...
There is that Predictions thread
“Blue Beetle” Writer Joins Picket Line Amid Movie Release – Hollywood Reporter
https://www.alaskacommons.com/blue-beetle-writer-joins-picket-line-ami
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Dune made money
Beetlejuice will do ok?
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‘Furiosa’ Is a Box Office Dud, Adding to Hollywood Woes
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/26/business/media/furiosa-box-office-m
emorial-day-weekend.html
another actor murdered
‘General Hospital’ Family React & Pay Tribute To Johnny Wactor
https://deadline.com/2024/05/johnny-wactor-dead-general-hospital-famil
y-reactions-tribute-1235941608/
gaming products?
https://www.polygon.com/24162697/wizardry-remaster-final-fantasy-drago
n-quest-demons-souls
Marvel DC sellers?
APRIL 2024 CIRCANA BOOKSCAN - TOP 20 AUTHOR, MANGA, SUPERHERO GRAPHIC NOVELS
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/56937/april-2024-circana-booksc
an-top-20-author-manga-superhero-graphic-novels
Cat awarded honorary 'Doctor of Litter-ature' degree
https://notthebee.com/article/cat-awarded-honorary-doctor-litter-ature
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Wuz gay 'Samurai' n sheeeeeeiit
Ubisoft Hints At LGBT Romance Options For ‘Assassin’s Creed Shadows’, Says Yasuke And Naoe Will “Attract And Be Attracted To Different Types of People”
https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/05/24/ubisoft-hints-at-lgbt-romanc
e-options-for-assassins-creed-shadows-says-yasuke-and-naoe-will-attract-and-be-attracted-to-different-types-of-people/
Japan Manga and Toons
https://www.polygon.com/22783137/best-anime-on-netflix
Lunatic Tosses Flaming Liquid On Random Subway Rider In NYC, Just Months After Being Released For The Same Crime
https://vidmax.com/video/227838-lunatic-tosses-flaming-liquid-on-rando
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perhaps for the predictions thread
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Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.
Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.
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Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.
Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.
I'd probably add my reasoning for this as context...
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Oh yeah... This is also a worse opening weekend than both Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire ($61 Million) or The Fall Guy ($64.4 Million), even though it cost $68 Million more to make than Ghostbusters and $43 Million more than The Fall Guy.
This was regarding Furiosa's paltry $58.5 Million worldwide opening weekend on it's $168 Million budget.
Furiosa cost quite a bit more to make than both of these other movies, yet its opening was the weakest of the 3. Ghostbusters hit $200 Million worldwide when rounding up, but there's a pretty decent chance now that it doesn't even hit a legitimate $200 Million before it exits theaters even though it is only $350k short of that, given how little it is making per day and how few theaters it's still being shown in.
And I have some serious doubts that The Fall Guy will even hit $200 Million too. That one still needs another $56.2 Million to get there and it won't ever make over $1 Million per day on week days again (save possibly today's holiday) and probably has only one weekend left where it will hit over $1 Million per day over the weekend. And it appears the US/International gross income is a virtual 50/50 split, so however poorly it does in the US from here on out will likely be mirrored in the international money. I'm not going to put an exact figure on my prediction for The Fall Guy yet, but I doubt it hits $200 Million worldwide and I imagine it will fall quite a bit shorter from that landmark than Ghostbusters did.
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Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.
Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.
I'd probably add my reasoning for this as context...Quote:
Oh yeah... This is also a worse opening weekend than both Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire ($61 Million) or The Fall Guy ($64.4 Million), even though it cost $68 Million more to make than Ghostbusters and $43 Million more than The Fall Guy.
This was regarding Furiosa's paltry $58.5 Million worldwide opening weekend on it's $168 Million budget.
Furiosa cost quite a bit more to make than both of these other movies, yet its opening was the weakest of the 3. Ghostbusters hit $200 Million worldwide when rounding up, but there's a pretty decent chance now that it doesn't even hit a legitimate $200 Million before it exits theaters even though it is only $350k short of that, given how little it is making per day and how few theaters it's still being shown in.
And I have some serious doubts that The Fall Guy will even hit $200 Million too. That one still needs another $56.2 Million to get there and it won't ever make over $1 Million per day on week days again (save possibly today's holiday) and probably has only one weekend left where it will hit over $1 Million per day over the weekend. And it appears the US/International gross income is a virtual 50/50 split, so however poorly it does in the US from here on out will likely be mirrored in the international money. I'm not going to put an exact figure on my prediction for The Fall Guy yet, but I doubt it hits $200 Million worldwide and I imagine it will fall quite a bit shorter from that landmark than Ghostbusters did.
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Regarding Ghostbusters...
I posted in the Cinema boards yesterday that Bruce found some money in the international couch cushions for Ghostbusters. After writing the above, he raised Ghostbuster's worldwide take over $800k, when only a tiny fraction of that was from the US Box office and the 228 theaters it was showing in last week.
I had predicted $200 Million for Ghostbusters back on April 29th, and without finding more international money it's very likely that this movie doesn't hit $201 Million.
Regarding Fall Guy...
As I suspected, it didn't make $1 Million at all this week except for Memorial Day. I'm surprised that it actually made $1.9 Million on Monday, but that won't change much. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday combined brought in about $100k less than Monday did. And even though it only lost about 100 theaters this weekend it only pulled in $1.1 Million on Friday night.
Without keeping track of internationals weekly, it's hard to compare exactly where one flick was against another flick at the same point in time. Ghostbusters pulled in $1,047,918 on its 5th Friday, and Fall Guy just pulled in $1,190,000 on the same day. There is also a virtual 50/50 split on US/International gross for Fall Guy, where there is a 56/44 split on Ghostbusters. This would lead one to believe that Fall Guy has a much better shot to hit $200 Million than Ghostbusters did, but Fall Guy also had the benefit of an additional weekend in many international markets before the US release, and that will be reflected at the tail end of its run. I'm still bearish that this movie won't hit $200 Million, but it might get there. I doubt it though.
Regarding Furiosa...
It only made just a hair more than $3 Million on its 2nd Friday. Fall Guy made $3.5 Million and Ghostbusters made $5.5 million in their 2nd
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5 celebrities who regret publicly endorsing or supporting Biden in 2020
Stars like Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson and Cardi B have said they won't support Biden again in 2024
https://www.foxnews.com/media/5-celebrities-who-regret-publicly-endors
ing-supporting-biden-2020
Joe Biden* is finished.
Tick Tock
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Kevin Costner nearing bankruptcy? 'Horizon' flop after millions in investment puts him under
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/kevin-costn
er-nearing-bankruptcy-horizon-flop-after-millions-in-investment-puts-him-under/articleshow/111892112.cms
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Has he not been paying attention to anything?
How could he know that "Chapter 1" wasn't going to be a massive box office flop before he even started working on it?
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Just Two Days After Star Wars Series’ Cancellation, Disney Removes All ‘The Acolyte’ Merch From Online Store
https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/08/22/just-two-days-after-star-war
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Just Two Days After Star Wars Series’ Cancellation, Disney Removes All ‘The Acolyte’ Merch From Online Store
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s-series-cancellation-disney-removes-all-the-acolyte-merch-from-online-store/
Nobody wants to buy anything related to gay space witches, huh? Imagine that.
Let's not kid ourselves though. Disney already killed Star Wars a long time ago. Nobody is buying any of their crap anymore.
Don't bother trying to fix what you broke, Disney. You'll never get the old fans back.
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Universal's Twisters grossed $1.26M on Tuesday (from 3,483 locations).
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1826337760527131010
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The culture Hollywood has created 'holes' in its cinema, by doing so you might argue they have pushed 'Entropy' a scientific concept and rulethat is most commonly associated with a state of disorder, randomness, they think by having big swiss cheese holes in cinema it is orderly but the ironic thing it is not. On our Planet Earth the Law of Nature Hate a 'Void' or 'a Vacuum state' if you dig a hole something will fall in, more dirt, maybe sand, an animal or person or water or plant growing from seed will fall into that hole and eventually fill it.
'Demon Slayer' will not be the last Japan product to be successful in the USA, the products will appear in other cinema in Argentina, in France, in Australia, in Germany, the Japanese Godzilla had a Budget $12 million and made a Box office of $116 million
something will fill that hole, even an ordinary product from Japan, an inside US or European movie, even a Bollywood will make more money a South Korea movie or Japan film.
a big bonus over Hollyweird culture...less political lectures...the Japanese are also known to keep budgets Low, sometimes fills the holes Hollweird culture creates, there have been many foreign products Penélope Cruz in Volver, Das Boot, Downfall, La Vie En Rose, the Chinese ' Hero' film, Kung Fu Hustle, Lust Caution, Monsoon Wedding, Cinema Paradiso, Del Toro's movie Pan's Labyrinth...more south Korean movies and more Japan cartoons
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The Canadian American company Lionsgate seem finished now, a small company becomes an international brand then dies? maybe it could have bought some video game property?? from its peak of The Hunger Games franchise, and Twilight movies in years 2008, Divergent Series seems mixed later it seems it failed to evolve and now a total failure.
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Squatters Take Over Multi-Million Dollar Mansion Next Door To LeBron James
https://dailycaller.com/2024/08/26/squatters-mansion-lebron-james-dail
y-caller-doc/
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Wash Off the Stink of 'The Crow' Reboot Bomb by Watching the Original for Free
https://collider.com/the-crow-free-pluto-tv/
a flop...don't worry its Hollyweird
Blackrock and Vanguard will ask the Fed to print them more tax payer money
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Wash Off the Stink of 'The Crow' Reboot Bomb by Watching the Original for Free
https://collider.com/the-crow-free-pluto-tv/
a flop...don't worry its Hollyweird
Blackrock and Vanguard will ask the Fed to print them more tax payer money
You joke, but the FED just lowered the interest rate by .50 yesterday in hopes it will help Kamala Harris win.
They just got more taxpayer money.
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LeBron James says ‘ain’t no party like a Diddy party’ in resurfaced video amid rap mogul’s charges
https://nypost.com/2024/09/26/entertainment/lebron-james-tells-sean-co
mbs-aint-no-party-like-a-diddy-party-in-resurfaced-video/
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Is Joker 2 in trouble? Box office tracking significantly less than 2019’s Joker
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joker-2-trouble-box-office-2200285
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‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ stumbles at box office and breaks CinemaScore record: What happened?
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/joker-folie-deux-stumbles-box-094343130.html
‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ flops at the box office, with brutal audience reviews
https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2024/10/07/entertainment/joker-folie-a
-deux-flops-at-the-box-office-with-brutal-audience-reviews/
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Why No One Will Get Fired Over 'Joker: Folie à Deux'
https://x.com/THR/status/1843384008115409285
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Can 10 yr old Whiplash beat Joker 2, Twisters, BeatlejuiceBeatlejuice and Borderlands to rank in the Top box office this week...
in Europe Spain, Joker Folie a Deux drops 77% from Sunday.
‘Whiplash’ Drums Up Groovy Numbers in Domestic Box Office Re-Release
https://collider.com/whiplash-domestic-box-office-re-release-578-thous
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some Lessons from the past
Low Budgets....WHIPLASH opened 10 years ago a $3 million film grossed $50 + million and received 4 Oscar nominations, winning 2 Oscars
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Coraline's re-release beat the crap out of Borderlands.
Borderlands worldwide Box Office was $32,938,499, with just around $17 Million of that coming from international money.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Borderlands-(2024)#tab=box-office
Coraline's 15th Anniversary re-release back in early August made $33,001,287 after 5 weeks in US theaters alone.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Coraline#tab=box-office
I don't know if Coraline got an international re-release, but I find it very humorous that it outgrossed the entire worldwide gross of Borderlands by $62,788.
I'd love to see Whiplash do the same thing to Borderlands. Let's put out a few more classics and really rub it in Randy Pitchford's face that more people would rather pay to see 20 year old movies for a 2nd time than go and see his $200 Million trash heap.
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although Joker 2 crashed it did slightly better than I expected so WB or the comicbooks or DC or whatever can make crap! They could film sewage put the Bat name on it and fanboys and fangirls would still watch the trash...the brand might not be dead thanks to other comicbook movies and a Penguin tv show.
Culture Death...some say no, watch another remake?
Ridley Scott says he is developing a new ‘ALIEN’ film.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/ridley-scott-f
ree-movies-shows-1236047958/
Theater counts: Venom will remain on top heading into the Halloween weekend
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/257940830-Theater-counts-Venom-will-r
emain-on-top-heading-into-the-Halloween-weekend
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the Hollywood year is starting to look better, the middle was terrible a lot of bad performances but can it finish strong with one final push?
BO Germany/Austria: Gladiator2 #1
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/3044-bo-germanyaustria-gladia
tor2-1-with-so-so-ow/
Sony's Venom: The Last Dance grossed $7.33M this weekend (from 3,421 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $127.57M.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1858621915386286316#m
Daily Grosses
FRI - $1.570M
SAT - $3.562M
SUN - $2.196M
Still the biggest of 2024 and unbeaten 'Inside Out 2'
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3638199041/
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Does it have staying power?
https://x.com/borreport/status/1858981236779479447
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Amazon MGM Studios' Red One grossed $1.66M on Monday (from 4,032 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $33.77M.
Most of Hollywood's biggest flops are in recent years
and as this was first a 'Sport' / ToonFantasy movie thread and a mix of live action and animtion let's have a recap on some of those classics
So what went wrong with Le Bron's toon
a bad piece of film
Le Bron has zero stage personality and is just unliked
it had no message
let's look at other classics where there is buzz on message boards
The Iron Claw, Rocky, Tokyo Olympiad, Lagaan, Boxer a Polish language movie 2024, Borg vs McEnroe 2017, The Cutting Edge, Rush, When We Were Kings, The Hurricane, Jerry Maguire, This Sporting Life, Big Wednesday, Chariots of Fire, Breaking Away 1979, Ford vs Ferrari, The Karate Kid, Slap Shot, North Dallas Forty, Raging Bull, Bloodsport 1988, The Wrestler, Secretariat, The Cannonball Run
and a mix of toonworld and real life
you had the original Space Jam with Michael Jordan but also Cool World, Monkeybone, Dick Tracy, Shaolin Soccer, Mario Bros, Sonic, The Mask, TMNT, 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?'
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I know people who didn't watch Red One just because Chris Evans is in it and he did that cringe Kamala ad with the rest of the losers that played the Avengers back when people still cared about comic book movies.
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-69% drop
Amazon MGM Studios' Red One grossed an estimated $3.34M on Friday (from 4,032 locations). Estimated total domestic gross stands at $42.97M.
https://x.com/borreport/status/1860349552529928528
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the disconnect between media papers / sites and the public who do their own thing remains as wide a cultural gap as ever
Venom-3 speculation it could flop but now perhaps it will be comfortably profitable
China: $100M?
Sony pulls it off with a guest character it woned when it bought Spider-Man, a B-list anti-hero with people bashing, consistently rotten reviews from elite critics but ended up becoming a successful trilogy, whereas the Major studio brands pushed by media Captain Marvel/Joker remained one hit wonders
a new LOTR toon
no report on budget
LOTR they gave it to Japan anime, Lord of the Rings War of the Rohirrim. War of the Rohirrim tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, a legendary king of Rohan, and his family as they defend their kingdom against an army of Dunlendings
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https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Dunlendings
Dunlendings, also known as the Wildmen of Dunland, were a race of Men living on the plains of Dunland. Bitter foes of the Rohirrim, their desire for vengeance made them pawns of Sauron the Dark Lord, through the rebel Wulf and later Saruman the White.
LOTR toon might not get much money, but it does not need much to push past 2 Billion Domestic and 6 Billion World wide adding to the overall value of the brand
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Wow. I haven't been paying attention to Venom. Damn shame it appears to be out of gas. It's only $3 Million away from beating the 9th place Chinese movie. I knew it wasn't going to lose money, but I didn't think it was going to make more than Beetlejuice.
Not only that, but it might have made more money than Gladiator II and Wicked will.
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they say Brentwood California is now under evacuation orders.
Kamala Harris and Sportball LeBron James live in Brentwood
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The Matrix film producer files for bankruptcy
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgwzp2jpneo
Village Roadshow Entertainment Group, the film production company behind franchises such as The Matrix, the Joker and Ocean's has filed for bankruptcy protection in the US, according to a filing with a Delaware court.
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Snow White
Metascore Mixed or Average Based on 43 Critic Reviews
49
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/snow-white/
User Score Overwhelming Dislike Based on 147 User Ratings
1.2
Biggest Box Office Bombs Of 2024
The Rocketeer = The Superhero Movie Disney Wants You To Forget
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Robert De Niro's New Crime Movie Just Flopped At The Box Office
https://www.slashfilm.com/1818315/robert-de-niro-crime-movie-box-offic
e-flop-the-alto-knights/
Why Robert De Niro’s Mob Drama ‘Alto Knights’ Is Such a Box Office Disaster
https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/robert-de-niro-alto-knights-b
ox-office-flop-1236345946/
10 months ago
'You are gangsters!': Robert De Niro clashes with Trump supporters in New York
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those other remakes
$396,592,829
and
$758,410,378
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd2453468676/
Ne Zha 2
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Australia
$4,536,242
Worldwide $1,894,236,381
new Snow White
seems to be a total disaster
but Snow White can probably beat a British movie called Paddington in Peru that nobody really watched
Iron Man 3 (2013) vs. Disney’s Snow White (2025) vs. Paddington in Peru (2024)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Iron-Ma
n-3/Disneys-Snow-White-(2025)/Paddington-in-Peru-(2024-United-Kingdom)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
and comedy is also dead
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I won't give SixString credit for saying Nu Snow White would be a flop, mots people could see that coming
I will give credit to him for saying its numbers would be like 'The Marvels' flop
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Iron-Ma
n-3/Marvels-The-(2023)/Disneys-Snow-White-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
Movie Comparison: Iron Man 3 (2013) vs. The Marvels (2023) vs. Disney’s Snow White (2025)
The Month of March is over, I thought maybe just maybe Hollyweird could have made one big hit by now but this year there is nothing
Snow White Set to Lose Over $100 Million After Week 2 Plunge
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Your perfect comparison is The Marvels.
The Marvels:
Production Budget: $270,000,000
Opening Weekend: $46,110,859
First Monday: $2,372,375
First Cheap Seat Tuesday: $3,300,946
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Marvels-The-(2023)#tab=box-office
Snow White:
Production Budget: $269,400,000
Opening Weekend: $42,206,415
First Monday: $2,514,482
First Cheap Seat Tuesday: $4,001,288
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Disneys-Snow-White-(2025)#tab=box-of
fice
Don't know what to say about the slightly better weekday performance for Snow White this far other than the very weak box office. The Marvels was out when Disney's Wish was out, along with Wonka and if memory serves there was a bloated Aquaman corpse floating around at the same time.
The only competition Snow White has now is the Blacktain failure, and whatever Bobby Deniro bomb just came out.
But there you go buddy. Both in (alleged) production budget and first 5-day performance, they're pretty much the same movie.
That was the biggest MCU flop ever, and one of Disney's most expensive mistakes so far.
What was the supposed budget for The Marvels last time we were updated? Remember they were saying something like $145 Million and how it was fine if it didn't do very well because of how cheap it was compared to other MCU movies? I think the last time I remember getting an update on that it was $180 or $190 Million. Now Bruce has it down for $270 Million in 2025.
Funny that, innit?
And that's probably why you didn't think to compare Snow White to The Marvels. You were probably still under the impression that it cost a lot less to make than it actually did.
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Thanks for the updated graph there.
Crazy how the line is almost perfect so far, huh?
Make sure to check back in at the-numbers a year or two from now and see what the Snow White budget actually was.
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almost perfectly matched
some worry about 'Minecraft'
budget $150,000,000
mixed feedback and mixed reviews
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‘A Minecraft Movie’ Breaks Ground Overseas With Strong $18M+ Through Thursday – International Box Office
https://deadline.com/2025/04/a-minecraft-movie-opening-global-internat
ional-box-office-1236359693/
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its April and maybe Hollyweird finally makes money?
The first reviews of “A Minecraft Movie” are in, and they are not as bad as many expected
https://en.as.com/meristation/news/the-first-reviews-of-a-minecraft-mo
vie-are-in-and-they-are-not-as-bad-as-many-expected-n/
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when the Bond franchise was watchable?
Robert McGinnis, Creator of Iconic James Bond Posters, Dies at 99
https://variety.com/2025/film/people-news/robert-mcginnis-dead-james-b
ond-posters-1236360289/
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Basketball, Hotdog, Skateboarding tests?
Jon Voight’s plan to ‘Make Hollywood Great Again’ includes an ‘American cultural test’
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/jon-voight-plan-hollywood-great-093510628.ht
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This Could Change The Film Industry Forever
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Box Office: ‘Thunderbolts*’ on Top Again in Second Weekend With $35 Million ‘Sinners’ Crossing $200 Million Domestic Domestic
https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/thunderbolts-on-top-sinners-c
rosses-200-million-1236392480/
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What will be the next Box Office Flop? Hollywood expensive movies & Tv shows keep crashing, Sportsball and LeBron...what will be the next box office Flop? Dont worry Trump will ban foreign movies, music and books and bailout Hollyweirdos??
‘Why cast him?’ Hollywood insiders cast doubt on Jared Leto’s leading man status after yet another flop
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/why-cast-him-hollywood-in
siders-cast-doubt-on-jared-letos-leading-man-status-after-yet-another-flop/news-story/f7dce799d024467131ec08b91476fab7
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