Serenity Questions (Spoilers)

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THEREAVER

Monday, January 31, 2005 4:16 PM

1. Several reviews have mentioned space battles. Does this mean Serenity has been equipped with guns?

2. Does Inara have any of her 'job' scenes?

I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

MELTINGMAN

Monday, January 31, 2005 5:17 PM

Nope Serenity does not have any guns...just a great pilot. There will be a awesome space fight scene shwon, but the effects for what i saw were not in place yet.

The movie does show Inara at work, but not nearly enough.

JAA

Monday, January 31, 2005 5:32 PM

Grand. That's the way it should be. Using smarts instead of guns, which basically means running, but everybody with half a working brain knows that's the smart thing to do.

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

THEREAVER

Monday, January 31, 2005 6:14 PM

I'm remembering the chase scene from The Message. That was good, maybe this one will be better.

I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

STATIC

Monday, January 31, 2005 7:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAA:
Grand. That's the way it should be. Using smarts instead of guns, which basically means running, but everybody with half a working brain knows that's the smart thing to do.

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

If discretion is the better part of valor. . .is cowardice the better part of discretion?

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

ZOL

Monday, January 31, 2005 7:45 PM

I wonder if the screening in London next week(!) will be the same cut or a slightly different one? what do you think - could more editing have been done since the last screnings and maybe some more SFX?

It would be cool to make comparisons

I`m prepared for some of the shocks & can`t wait for the `River Dance` (no Michael Flatley)

Darin (Zol.)

JAA

Tuesday, February 1, 2005 5:13 PM

Yes. Because if the better part of valor, that is discretion, has gone wrong, and you have lethal danger coming your way with a determined, killing look on it's face, you take the better part of discretion, which is cowardice and RUN!

In the end cowardice is the better. After all, it is better to live another day running, than just being dead in the gutter. It might not be cool, but you're still flying.

When Serenity is on the run though, it will be cool. The Big Damn Heroes have a great pilot, and a GREAT ship!

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

ORCBLASTER

Tuesday, February 1, 2005 5:43 PM

guys, since the thread's already spoiler-full,
I might as well add my spoiler question for those who have seen the movie: What can we expect from the Operative (Like, who is he going to fight with, we know he's after River, but, I mean, he must get past at least Simon and probably Mal, so, how's that gonna go?) And one more question: River's fight-scenes, how do they work? I've heard many people who've seen the movie say they're incredibly well performed and kind off matrix-style. Is this true? Can we expect matrix-like scenes?

Thanks!

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 1, 2005 11:53 PM

The Operative....he is a mild-mannered well spoken gentleman. He is a highly trained killer and he is sent to get River. He has a couple fight scenes with Mal including a pretty hairy one at the end.

Rivers fight scene. it is simply awesome. I dont know how they did it, but it looks really real. I think it is better than any fight scene i can remember. the easiest way for me to discribe it to you is this way. remember in Star Wars Episode 1, when Obi-one fought Darth Maul?...to me that was simply awesome...it is like that. Does that make sense?

ORCBLASTER

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 2:14 PM

Cool, thank you for answering my questions.
I'm soooo excited to see this movie, too bad I have to wait until september.
Well, maybe if the trailer comes out in may they'll show a scene or move River makes or something in that area :-)

JAA

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 4:45 PM

Darth Maul vs. Obi-Wan was on of the better fight scenes lately, and a very lonely redeeming aspect of Star Wars - Episode 1. So if Rivers fight scene pars or is better than that, that would be great.

The Operative also sounds like one of the better Big Bads on the Big Screen lately.

Now, back to Inara. Any 'job'-scenes? Hmmm?

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

FORRESTWOLF

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 5:03 PM

Oooh...the implication in the comparison to the Darth Maul fight would be that there's a singular OPPONENT for River. Doesn't sound like it's the Operative. Are we talking about a counterpoint to River, here?

MELTINGMAN

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 7:11 PM

"Job-Scenes" not really..or none that I can remember...and I would remember anything yummy like that.

Sorry...no Counter-River or anything like that. She does(to everyones suprise) clear out a bar and just about kick Mal's ass.

FORRESTWOLF

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 9:56 PM

Ok, while we're asking questions :)

Joss is on record as being INTENTIONALLY vague about FTL and Serenity. Is the issue of one solar system vs. galaxy resolved in the movie? I mean, surely they make it at least clearer, right?

MELTINGMAN

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 9:59 PM

No not really. Kinda like the show where they show brief flight to another planet. But you will love when they travel to the Reavers home planet....very cool.

SSJ4BLACKBELT

Wednesday, February 2, 2005 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by meltingMan:
"Job-Scenes" not really..or none that I can remember...and I would remember anything yummy like that.

Sorry...no Counter-River or anything like that. She does(to everyones suprise) clear out a bar and just about kick Mal's ass.

Just about kick Mal's ass? Does that mean she turns on the Capt in the bar?? Does she beat him up?? Or almost beat him up?

MELTINGMAN

Thursday, February 3, 2005 5:32 PM

She cleaned out the bar and was on her way to whoop up on the Captain. He was trying to get his gun out of a locker that all patrons store them weapons in when they enter. He was having trouble getting it open as she was kicking ass. Once she finished with them she made her way to the Captain, just as she got to him and he was getting his gun ready, Simon came in and spoke a De-activation word and she shut down....very intense. I could watch that whole scene 10 times in a row.

SSJ4BLACKBELT

Thursday, February 3, 2005 7:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by meltingMan:
She cleaned out the bar and was on her way to whoop up on the Captain. He was trying to get his gun out of a locker that all patrons store them weapons in when they enter. He was having trouble getting it open as she was kicking ass. Once she finished with them she made her way to the Captain, just as she got to him and he was getting his gun ready, Simon came in and spoke a De-activation word and she shut down....very intense. I could watch that whole scene 10 times in a row.

So that means River went crazy/malfunctiony?? This is all verry interesting, I cannot wait!

MELTINGMAN

Thursday, February 3, 2005 7:53 PM

She was programmed by the Allaince to repond to a key word...Simon knew the word to bring her out of the training. This movie will be awesome.

ORCBLASTER

Thursday, February 3, 2005 8:35 PM

Meltingman, thank you for answering our questions so far.
I've got another question for you (if that's ok):
I've read in an interview with Joss Whedon about Serenity that there will be a hoovercraft chase at some point in the movie. Ís it any good?
And who is in the hoovercraft and why?

Many, many thanks!

MELTINGMAN

Thursday, February 3, 2005 11:06 PM

Yep there is a new mule for Serenity. The quad-runner is gone and a new cool hovercraft is in place. It is stored above the cargo bay. There is a town that the crew have a bank heist at. While they are there, River senses they are arriving (this is the clip you have seen were River say's "Reavers") Anyhoot, when the Reavers hit they have to make a fast get away. So Mal,Zoe,River and Jayne jump aboard and try to flee. But the Reavers have this cool two-Reaver ship and chase them. It was really intense. Unfortunaetly all the effects were un-finished. But it was still cool.

ORCBLASTER

Friday, February 4, 2005 2:44 PM

that's very cool, I thought it was a shame when they blew up the mule in Warstories, but if they now have a hovercraft instead that's awesome!! :-)
I've watched that clip from the comiccon a thousand times now, it still gives me a boost when I feel down. Can you say what happens with Serenity at the end of the clip (You know, when Serenity is fleeing from the Reavership and the reavership fires some kind of beam).
Again, thanks for taking the time to answer, I'm getting more and more excited about this movie...:-)

MELTINGMAN

Friday, February 4, 2005 5:25 PM

That was a really cool part of the movie. That is towards the end (or close to it) when our gang is trying to flee the Reaver home world and the whole Reaver fleet is chasing them. The problem is that as they are high-tailing it out of there, the Allaince fleet is heading towards the Reaver planet going after Serenity. Wash is a stud here...shows us what Serenity can do in the hands of a capable pilot.

This is a pure spoiler thread for people who want to know about the movie. Ask away...I'll tell ya.

REEQUEEN

Friday, February 4, 2005 6:22 PM

The Reavers have a homeworld?

"He has a gorm horizon. All gorm that falls past it is lost forever." UserFriendly http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050114

ORCBLASTER

Friday, February 4, 2005 6:40 PM

-Are there some cool one-liners or quotes in the movie? And if yes, do you remember some? and who siad them?

- In the trailer from Comiccon we see River with some kind of device on her head screaming, what's up with that?

- And maybe you could give us some kind of small summary of the movie, you know, what kind of cool things we can expect and a little of how the storyline is going to go (without spoiling the end)

I know I've already asked you a lot of questions, but I'm soooo excited and really can't wait til september :-)

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, February 6, 2005 10:12 AM

You know, i'm not likin some of this.

The concept of a fancy hover to replace the mule bothers me on two fronts...
#1 - it's so COMPLETELY out of character for the story.
#2 - they didn't do too good a job on the one in HoG, honestly.

But #1 reallllllly bothers me.
What's next, transporters ?
:::rolls eyes:::

I sincerely, sincerely hope this doesn't get the same BS nitpick that other Joss productions have (thus destroying them in the name of a quick buck) but after seeing the release date pushback in order to make SURE nothing actually dares *compete* with precious little golden boy prince George Lucas's latest bowel movement on the movie world (cause that's the TRUTH of all those reschedules) so they don't *offend* him and lose out on their cut of the Empire(pun intended)....

And the composer mess sure doesn't inspire a lot of confidence either.

I'd like to hope for the best, but in all honesty that pushback killed off some of the fan base this movie would have NEEDED to make the profit the studio was hoping for, not rabid maniacs like us, but lukewarm fans they could have snared into the franchise who threw up their hands in disgust and moved on.

So while i'll keep hoping (at least till they throw it back in the can and never release it...) I am somewhat concerned.

-F

JAA

Sunday, February 6, 2005 1:22 PM

Wow, you're a really positive *irony intended* person.

From a time/story perspective the hovercraft makes sense. The mule was destroyed, and they needed some new land transport. Probably got a nice amount of money from some job, and UPGRADED. They got a hovercraft which is quicker (Ok, I don't have proof of that, but it would seem logical ) and has more space for goods. And as for the hovercraft in HoG, that thing was put together in the span of 8 days or some amount of time that doesn't really give you time to come up with a Big Damn Hovercraft. The BDM, though, will have a Big Damn Hovercraft.

Secondly I just want to adress the "out of character for the story" problem of yours. It's what it is. It's your problem. For me it is not a problem, because of my POV on the story that is Firefly/Serenity. For the crew to earn more money, they need complicated jobs, jobs that need speedy entries and exits. Thus it makes sense to upgrade to a speedier land vehicle. Gorram, as far as I see it, the hovercraft could be of the Firefly brand, and I want to have things of the Firefly brand.

Finally, we have to realize one thing. Serenity is a movie. People will go see movies. Just as long as they know it's there and they can go see it they will. What can make Serenity a sucsess, make it stand out from the ordinary decently visited, yet not sucsessful, movies that there are loads of in these times, is the Browncoats. We have made a difference before and we will make a difference again.

Do you wanna be a Big Damn Hero or what?

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

THEREAVER

Sunday, February 6, 2005 7:55 PM

What is the activation and deactivation word for River?

I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, February 6, 2005 11:55 PM

>>rabid manics like us<<

That's us, you and me, where I stand ain't ever been in doubt.

Thing is, I have concerns, I have concerns I feel are legit, given the history involved, and if it's at all possible to address them NOW as fans instead of after a shafting, it might be a good idea.

Even if it don't work, it's something to do, and worth a try - cause some of us were all over the advertisers and the network when they started mulling cancellation, while others were believing that cancellation would never happen due to the quality of the show.
(To give em credit, it STILL doesn't make sense..)

So I have concerns, is not now the time to act on them ?

-F

PS. and no, i'm not very nice folk, in case ya hadn't noticed.

UMDESCH4

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:55 AM

Ok, a general question (or 5)...

Is there anything we're going to really freak out about in general? There was talk, after all the publicity photos without Book and Inara, that they might have much smaller parts (ie. be 'written out' of most of the movie)

Is there anything like that? Any drastic personality changes that don't make sense?

Basically, is it still the same little 'verse we've come to know and love, or are there any significant changes we should be prepared for?

JAA

Monday, February 7, 2005 3:59 PM

Your concerns are legit. So, who's up for smacking some 'versal execs?

Moving on, deactivization word for River? Is it in Latin, or any specific language? Or is it a code of sorts?

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

PURPLEBELLY

Monday, February 7, 2005 4:27 PM

Quote:
What is the activation and deactivation word for River?

The Queen of Diamonds?

MELTINGMAN

Monday, February 7, 2005 5:36 PM

Good Morning,

When i saw the movie it was so cool seeing the BDH on screen and simply seeing more Firefly. It's hard to believe, but I have seen the regular shows so many times I dont really watch them anymore. So seeing something I havent seen before was so cool. Joss was in the audience with us, as well as a whole group of execs in a taped off section of the theatre. Will there be any major things that will dissapoint you? Yes there will. Will you just love other parts?...yes you will. Overall it is a great ride and will makie money for the studio. Will it make enough to justify another movie...i think so.

I was absolutely pissed when the back story for Book wasnt explained before he died. I didnt think Ron Glass did that great of a job acting the scene, but that is a different discussion. When Wash died, fans just about stormed Joss. It happened so fast and being as Wash is one of my favorite characters, I'm dissapointed he is gone.

I dont like movies where things will happen and you say to yourself, oh come on that can't happen. There are a handful of those here. I didnt love that. Actually i was so worried about those "Oh come on" scenes that I made sure I was asked to stay after the movie to be one of 20 people who were recorded and shared how they felt about the movie. I wanted to voice them then so that maybe they can be changed before the movie is released. So during the discussion i was pretty vocal. To quote myself(can you do that?) I said regarding the relative realism of a movie "if Mal gets a three foot sword shoved all the way through his stomach, he dies!!" well he didnt and still fought for another five minutes and beats the Operative.

There is a scene when Serenity chrashes and one arm is completly torn off (then Wash dies)and later in the movie Serenity takes and heads on her merry way? HUH??? I had to bring that up to them. Those are the kinds of things. At the end of the discussion i turned to all the executives (I was in the first row and they were in the back right hand corner) and said "Hey guys we need more Firefly, just change a few things and this movie can be great" It was odd how silent the place was...lol

But if they dont change anything, you will still love tons about this. Very funny, River simply kicks ass, you will love when Simon breaks River out of the Alliance facility, The Operative, the Reaver story.

But you wont like Wash and Book dying, the "oh come on" scenes if they stay, Simon punching Mal in the face and he taking it, Jayne yelling at Mal "Look at me when I talking to you" and him not shoving him out an airlock. The out of character heros were familiar with. Yeah that suprised me too. And how somehow those things add up to it not feeling like our little show.

But am I worried about how the movie being pushed back might affect the over-all sales, not really. Other than us Browncoats, who really even knows this movie is being made? Until the first teaser is released than the casual movie-goer will know of its existence. I know why it is called Serenity, but I think another name would be better for the non-Firefly fans. But it wont be changed.

oh, and the key word spoken to River to stop her from stomping Mal's ass (unless he shot her, and he would have) was in Chinese. Couldnt understand it. Man that was a cool scene.

OK any other questions let me know.

ORCBLASTER

Monday, February 7, 2005 5:57 PM

-Are there some cool one-liners or quotes in the movie? And if so, do you remember some? and who said them?

- In the trailer from Comiccon we see River with some kind of device on her head screaming, what's up with that?

thanks again

JAA

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:06 PM

Huh.

Ok. This is not just our old show anymore. It seems like a greater story though, I have to say. Just as long as Joss suspends my disbelief which I know he will do, I am going to love the movie. Gorram. I haven't seen the movie yet, and already I'm struck silent by awe. meltingMan, you give good descriptions.

Latin? What was I thinking? Shiny Chinese, that's good.

Sincerly can't wait till the Big Damn Movie's released.

MELTINGMAN

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:07 PM

Cool one-liners...sorry there are a ton and for the life of me i cant remember any of them...Sorry. Oh one other thing, the Joss speak for Firefly was cut way down...western theme was almost gone and didnt hear much Chinese.

ZOL

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:07 PM

Ooops - multi replies

ZOL

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:07 PM

Ooops - multi replies

ZOL

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:07 PM

In your viewing of the screener was there any music in place & did it fit the movie

And before anybody says anything - Yes, I know that the proper music for the film has yet to be done

Zol.

sorry for the multiple replies, something scwewy went on there!

MELTINGMAN

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:11 PM

The shiny thing on her head is from when she is being held at the Allaince facility and they were doing some experiments on her in front of upper-management (Simon during break-out scene), because she is "one of our top students"

AURAPTOR

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheReaver:
I'm remembering the chase scene from The Message. That was good, maybe this one will be better.

Yeah, but I liked the Crazy Ivan even better. Loved that scene!

Holy crap! When it says 'spoilers' in the subject line, you ain't kiddin! Jesus! I've got my own thoughts (quickly formed ) as to why things played like they MIGHT.... but day-um!! Say it ain't so! We shall see, we shall see.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

MELTINGMAN

Monday, February 7, 2005 6:14 PM

There was music for the film...but not alot of it. Also, was not as good as from the show. I know this because it was a non-factor as compared to show where it made me FEEL during scenes more. Does that make any kind of sense?

ORCBLASTER

Monday, February 7, 2005 9:15 PM

Do Simon and Kaylee finally kiss or have sex in the movie?
And what about Mal and Inara?

MELTINGMAN

Monday, February 7, 2005 10:13 PM

Yep towards the end after everybody realized how lucky theyu were to be alive....Simon and kaylee start kissing and knock one out. Damn Kaylee is hot now that i think about that scene....for Mal and Inara..nope...but Inara does decide to come live back aboard the ship...so that is cool.

ORCBLASTER

Monday, February 7, 2005 10:31 PM

Good to hear!
Does Inara get to contribute in the whole Operative River story (does she get to do some hot stunts?)
And kaylee, what about her, does she get to do some stunts or trying to stop the operative?

MELTINGMAN

Monday, February 7, 2005 10:39 PM

Inara's screen time seemed less than the others. She did help out tremendously when the crew went to the world were Inara was. the Operative cornered them there and she was the reason they escaped.

Kaylee (other than looking hot) was a part of everything, but she helped in smaller round about ways.

ORCBLASTER

Monday, February 7, 2005 11:00 PM

Cool, and what about the storyline. How does the story develope and wich new cool characters are introduced?
You are just sooo kind for answering all these questions. thank you

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:01 AM

The story is truly amazing. It explains who everybody is, and visits all kinds of places and meets all kinds of people. There are two main characters that are presented. The Operative of course is one. But the others is the lead elf guy from that Tim Allen movie "The Santa Clause". He plays this guys who recieves all digital information feeds (illegally) and can send them to all far reaches of the galaxy as well. the crew need him to tranmit proof that the Reavers are real. it is a cool story. Tons of action and very funny. Just wish the crew acted true to how they play themselves in the TV show. When Jayne yelled at Mal and he didnt really do anything about it....well I was dissapointed. i like when the Captain gets up in Jaynes face and reminds him of who's boat this is...That Mal is gone.

ORCBLASTER

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:08 AM

Well, is it just Mal who is out of character, or are the others out of character as well?
I would hate to see the whole crew acting differently...

BARRY

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:20 AM

Could you please do a general summary of the movie, beginning to end?

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 12:41 AM

Now that I think about it...yeah...just our Captain is different. I mean he acts different regarding how he lets crew members talk to him. (and punch him in the mouth in Simon's case) But he is the same in regards to his love for his ship and crew, and his disdain for the Allaince and fear of the Reavers

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 1:09 AM

I wish i could. I can give you a very general accounht of the story. But I have tried myself to think back from beginning to end and I cant do it. I wish i could but my memory tends to be sporadic..lol.

Lets see, the story revolves around River. The Operatives after her, and it answers why they want her back. The crews quest of finding that out winds up accedentally taking them to the Reaver home world. A world were they were accidentally created by the inhabitants. See the population was trying to be controlled by an airborn additive (or pill cant remember) and it went very wrong. It was supposed to supress violent impulses, and instead it either made people so non-caring they simply died where they sat, or the complete opposite were they became...well Reavers.

It is a complicated story where the Allaince and the Reavers are after them. But they visit and pick up Inara and visit Book before and after the Reavers attack which killed him. Ultimately they are able to use this under-ground type of guy to transmit proof that the Reavers exist and make piece with The Allaince. If I remember correctly the Operative tells the Allaince army not to kill River (who was cornered)dont remember exactly how...but if memory serves the Allaince is no longer after River. All kinda foggy which bugs me. I guess I'll have to watch it again in September..lol

BARRY

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 1:26 AM

Thanks.

THEDARKSHAPE

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:17 AM

Thanks for the Q & A session. The pure spoiler junkie in me has to know -- how exactly (to the best of your knowledge) do Book and Wash die?

And it may be out of character for Mal, but I like the idea of Simon getting some "punching" revenge.

ORCBLASTER

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 10:56 AM

Do you remember why Inara came back on board Serenity after she left? You say they "picked" Inara up, but they must have a lot of reason for her to come back right?

AURAPTOR

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheDarkShape:
Thanks for the Q & A session. The pure spoiler junkie in me has to know -- how exactly (to the best of your knowledge) do Book and Wash die?

And it may be out of character for Mal, but I like the idea of Simon getting some "punching" revenge.

One, I can see, but both of 'em?

Too many questions arise... I'm gonna make like it's not true.

There, all better!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 5:27 PM

When Serenity chrashes down on the planet where the Communications guy is, a long wooden pole breaks off from the building they crashed into and impales Wash right through his chest in the pilot chair. You would'nt of seen it coming. And because they were running for there lives they had one second to mourn him and then they were off and running.

Book's little town he lived in was hit by the Allaince when they were following Rivers trail. Book shot down a ship and he was lying in the dirt dying when Mal found him. I thought that Simon would save him somehow, but while Simon was getting his medical suppies he dies in Mals arms.

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 5:30 PM

They went to go visit Inara for some information/help she could give them. Dont remember exactly, but the Operative shows up while they are there. During the fight with him. she saves Mals ass and they flee to the ship. She kinda had to go, but at the end she tells Mal that she will be staying and he replies something like "good answer" or something close.

SWEETH

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 6:29 PM

Darn. I like Mal the way he was in the series.
Nathan mentioned in an interview that Mal was given a "love interest". Would that be Inara? Is the UST still there?

ORCBLASTER

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 7:34 PM

Well, I guess even if Book's dead I still think Joss can find a creative and original way to tell Book's past though (maybe a flashback, or something else)
Meltingman, were there any inside jokes for the Firefly fans in the movie? And do we see Zoe dealing with the death of Wash in the movie?

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 7:39 PM

Yep the love interest is Inara. The fire still burns there. In a scene in the movie, Mal is in his room on the ship and he is holding a video recorded clip of her when she was on board and he was missing her.

Not sure what UST stands for?

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 7:54 PM

For Books death there was no flashback or anything unvieling his past. In the first meeting with Book at his new town/village, Mal and Book were talking about River and being chased and Book was sharing all kinds of information on what the Allaince might do. Mal says "one of these days you need to tell me how you know this kind of stuff" and Book simply replies "no...I dont!"

Then later in the movie he dies...Even when he was giving up his last breath he didnt say.

A big part of me hopes that Joss is simply playing a joke on all of us. That he has signed all the cast members to a three movie deal, and he wants to thow us off the spoiler path. I can hope.

Inside jokes...im sure there were but none I can remember...sorry

For Wash and Book the creww buried them on top of a hill and that is were all the remaining cast members had a chance to finally mourn.

SWEETH

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:09 PM

Thank you so much. You have answered my question.
Heh..I don't know what it stands for either, picked it up in one of the threads or fan fiction.

I doubt if the movie will make it to Singapore, where I am, but still hoping. Love this thread. Thank you again.

ORCBLASTER

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:14 PM

How is Jayne dealing with the Operative and River?
Is he going to try to sell River out to the Operative?

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:15 PM

No problem...answering questions has trigured my memory for scenes I had forgotten. it is pretty cool that I am in Los Angeles and you are in Singapore...gotta love the internet.

This movie better make it to you. That would really suck if you had to wait until DVD.

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:17 PM

Nope he did'nt try to sell River out to the Operative. But he did voice that having them on board was a bad idea. He was awesome as usual. He was in most scenes and was great. he was pretty much afraid/respected River after he see's her whoop much ass in the bar scene. Wait until you see that..

SWEETH

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:20 PM

I'm going to Australia to watch it, if it doesn't make it here. *grins*
I have a friend in Perth.
I sure hope Serenity makes it to Perth.

KETHRYVERIS

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:25 PM

UST - Unresolved Sexual Tension

Quote:
Originally posted by sweeth:
Thank you so much. You have answered my question.
Heh..I don't know what it stands for either, picked it up in one of the threads or fan fiction.

I doubt if the movie will make it to Singapore, where I am, but still hoping. Love this thread. Thank you again.

ORCBLASTER

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 8:27 PM

Cool, I like scared Jayne :-)
- If you would rate this movie (scale of 1-10) what would you give it?
- What was your absolute favourite scene of the movie? (and could you please describe it?)
- How much of the movie is going to be cgi?
- You said they were going on a heist, how is that gonna go? (Is it gonna go like with the lassiter in Trash or very different?) And do they succeed?

thanks again :-)

SWEETH

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 9:10 PM

Why did Simon punch Mal?

and thanks, KETHRYVERIS

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:19 PM

I would rate this movie probably an 8. It will go higher if they delete/change the "Oh come on" scenes.

My favorite scene is easy, it is the bar scene with River. The crew go there to meet some bad guys and River walks up to a TV showing some Anime cartoons. In the cartoons there is embedded a message which triggers Rivers training. She starts beating some ass in there. What makes this scene great is the flow of the fight scene. There is no, film this guy getting punched, ok now this guy gets kicked, ok now cut to this guy getting karate chopped. you can tell it is 10 minutes of straight fighting. In addition, Mal realizes whats happening and he will be next. So he runs to the locker where everybodies weapons are locked up. He is trying to get his weapon and she is just about ready to get to him. This is when Simon shuts her down with the key word. Awesome...

The special effects were missing, except for one glorious scene.l This is a very cool scene when Simon breaks River out of the Allaince facilty. he poses as a high ranking official with the Allaince and he is carrying a walking cane of some sort. So when the timing is right, he drops to one knee while slamming the bottom of the cane on the floor. When this happens a burst of energy expands from the cane tip immobilizing anybody it reaches. Because Simon is below the enery level from the cane (he was kneeling) he was safe. Cool sound effect and cool special effect. All other scenes you could see the wires and occasionally a sign which read "space battle"..pretty funny.

The hiest is in the beginning when they rob a bank in the town of Lilac. While they are robbing it the town gets hit by Reavers. This is when they need to make a quick get away. Didnt go well, they only got a little bit of money from the vault.

MELTINGMAN

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:24 PM

For the life of me i cant remember. What i do remember is that I was shocked when it happened. They were all standing in the common area around the dinner table. And that Mal just kinda held his jaw, while Jayne stood between them. They were just kinda arguing and Simon suddenly cold cocked him. i thought oh man mal is gonna make him pay for that....and then nothing?

YINEPUHOTEP

Tuesday, February 8, 2005 11:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:

If discretion is the better part of valor. . .is cowardice the better part of discretion?

Well, you know what they say...never get between a coward and the exit.

SWEETH

Wednesday, February 9, 2005 6:04 PM

So unlike Mal. Strange.

This is the first spoiler thread I've come across that actually tells any. It's cool of you to let us make our own decision as to whether we want to be 'spoilt' lol Most people keep saying it's better you don't know.
Well, I do know some now, thanks to you, and I know I will still enjoy the movie.
So..what else can you tell us? hehe
I'll just wait for someone else to ask the questions. Can't think of any right now.

MELTINGMAN

Wednesday, February 9, 2005 7:20 PM

Your welcome...I just figure that the thread is labeled "Spoiler"...so who ever doesnt want to know they wont come here. I actually am one of those people who dont read spoilers. But i appreciate that people do. Well since i have already seen the movie why not share?

Beleive it or not, I was an extra in the movie and was pretty bummed that i ended up getting cut from the movie...lol

Maybe Joss knew i would share..lol

DEANNAMAY

Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:35 AM

Looking at all the spoilers, I still think the movie will be a little different than what people saw. They know what an organized fan group they have, and that word will get out from previews. To truly give us an enjoyable experience, and I truly believe Joss is for his fans, we will have surprises, hopefully happy ones. I can see Book being written out simply because it seems Ron is a busy dude. Wash, there is too much he can still do, and they will continue to need a crack pilot. JMHO.

BRUISERSMOM

Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:40 AM

I'm not crazy about the hover craft either. I remember the one from "Heart of Gold" and it seemed like something that rich people would have like laser guns. I want the guys to stay poor. It makes their successful exploits all the more impressive.

REEQUEEN

Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:30 AM

I'm adding my thanks, too, MeltingMan. You've provided a great deal of insight that is usually missing from the reviews (generally of the "Rah! Rah! Rah!" variety, not that there's anything wrong with that!), and some great descriptions.

I fully expect there to be some changes when Sept. 30 rolls around (and Middle Son just got a job at the local MegaPlex, so we'll be going for free! If he still works there by then! Rah!), but I love knowing stuff beforehand, it makes me feel....special. Heh.

....And what I wouldn't have given when I was 11 to have been spoiled for Star Wars....such a coup over my friends....ya know?

The hubbert is going non-spoiled....well, mostly, anyway. So I feel I'm one step ahead of him, where he's usually been three ahead of me up till now.

Anyway. Thank you!

"He has a gorm horizon. All gorm that falls past it is lost forever." UserFriendly http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050114

BARRY

Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:41 AM

Mal letting Simon punch him without retaliation may be unusual but it seems to me to be entirely plausible and understandable if Simon had just cause and/or Mal felt he deserved to be smacked. Putting aside whether or not you think Mal acted out of character, do you think Mal had it coming?

SWEETH

Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:01 AM

So, you are one of those who don't read spoilers. hehe

Well, all the more shiny that you'd answer questions. I can totally appreciate that point of view too, but not so much the holier-than-thou attitude of some. :P

I hope your character gets put back into the movie, Or in the DVD. You must tell which one you are then.

Can't wait for Sept. But don't know if there's a movie to wait for here. *sigh* It'll be back to searching for more spoilers then, I guess ,till I can get to Australia or the DVD release. Will you still be around then? lol

JADETHE2ND

Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:35 AM

Can I just say:

Before the screening in London we were ASKED SPECIFICALLY NOT TO POST SPOILERS ON THE INTERNET.

Seriously, what do you think it's gonna do to the chances of us having a similar opportunity if there's a sequel (or what it's gonna do to the chances of fans being allowed as extras, for that matter) if people are posting this much detail?!

This would be a "think before you type" moment, people.

Sorry if I come off as rude and judemental, but I had to say something.

ORCBLASTER

Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:14 PM

Well, I think it's ok to post spoilers on the internet about the movie. I even think that Universal and Joss and Chris Buchanan expected this to happen. You can't expect to fill a room with excited fans and then not one of them posts a spoiler on the internet.

RABIT

Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Orcblaster:
Well, I think it's ok to post spoilers on the internet about the movie. I even think that Universal and Joss and Chris Buchanan expected this to happen. You can't expect to fill a room with excited fans and then not one of them posts a spoiler on the internet.

Uh, you can when the room of excited fans agrees not to. If you watched the movie under the pretense of not posting spoilers, and then post spoilers, you've lied. You lied to Joss and you lied to Chris.

Seriously, I agree with JadeThe2nd - because people are posting this information, they will likely not trust us to keep our mouths shut for future movies. Personally, I think that they ought to have NDA's for these things, and then actively pursue people who post. It's really a shame...

Yes, I know - I read the spoilers. But I honestly couldn't dishonor Joss by lying to him if I was in that position...

As always, no offense intended to those who are posting spoilers. You have the right to do whatever you want.

Just as we have the right to disagree.

Rabit

RUTHIE

Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:02 PM

There were nearly 200 Browncoats at the London screening, and probably similar numbers at the 2 American screenings.

Say 500 Browncoats have seen it, and ONE is posting spoilers.

0.2% of the audience could prevent 98.8% ever being invited to something similar.

That seem right to you?

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Ruthie
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By the data to date, there is only one animal in the Galaxy dangerous to man - man himself. So he must supply his own indispensable competition. He has no enemy to help him. (R.A.Heinlein)

THEREAVER

Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:12 PM

Say 500 Browncoats have seen the film. Eventually something's gonna leak. Might as well just flood the place.

I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

MELTINGMAN

Thursday, February 10, 2005 5:58 PM

Well I must say I'm dissapointed with the few who read all the spoilers, and then post that i shouldnt have shared? Actually kinda makes me laugh.

In my defense (because i guess I need to) there was no request not to post spoilers on the internet. We were asked for no video or photography. If anything i bet they put out a 75% finished story, and then let fans see it and lurk here for our ideas.

With that said...I'm done. I have shared the bulk of what I can remember. But I will leave one last spoiler for those who dont want to know (but your reading this you putz..lol) River will be the crack pilot replacing Wash. At the end, she sits down and takes the controls from Mal...HA

Goodbye everybody..

SWEETH

Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:10 PM

Bye meltingMan, *sniff* and thank you. Was good while it lasted.

RUTHIE

Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:17 PM

I read this thread because I was at the London screening, and therefor, for me, it is NOT spoilers.

And I'd like to comment that people shouldn't take everything that Meltingman has said as entirely accurate.
Perhaps it's down to different interpretations of what we saw, or that I have seen it more recently, or perhaps we even saw different versions - the cgi and sfx were nearly complete in the version I saw.

But if I were to answer some of the questions that have been asked here, I would have answered them very differently.

But, as we in London WERE specifically asked not to post spoilers, I'm not going to.

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Ruthie
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By the data to date, there is only one animal in the Galaxy dangerous to man - man himself. So he must supply his own indispensable competition. He has no enemy to help him. (R.A.Heinlein)

ZOL

Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ruthie:
And I'd like to comment that people shouldn't take everything that Meltingman has said as entirely accurate.
Perhaps it's down to different interpretations of what we saw, or that I have seen it more recently, or perhaps we even saw different versions - the cgi and sfx were nearly complete in the version I saw.

But if I were to answer some of the questions that have been asked here, I would have answered them very differently.

But, as we in London WERE specifically asked not to post spoilers, I'm not going to.

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Ruthie
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Well said, I read these comments on spoilers before with a pinch of salt, but when it came down to the watching the `unfinished film` at the London screening, there are certain truths but also there are other things here which were not seen.

In Spetmeber(U.S) & November(U.K.) I guess we will see what actually does make it to the final cut. There`s a long time to go and additional scenes could still be filmed and mixed about.

I agree with Ruthie, and just remember that until the final cut nothing is for certain.

Darin (Zol.)

SWEETH

Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:42 PM

I am well aware that there might be different versions/interpretations..whatever. Meltingman wasn't trying to force his views on us. We asked, he answered ..is all.
Bye.

PURPLEBELLY

Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by meltingMan:
With that said...I'm done.

Please don't stop, this thread is just starting to be fun. If you can't remember any more, just make stuff up that gives the feel if not the actual. That should really piss off the nay-sayers

EDIT: I wish we could talk about neigh-sayers, I'm going to miss the horses.

SWEETH

Friday, February 11, 2005 7:28 AM

I said bye..twice, yet here I am. lol
I've just got to say this. I have been recruiting fans for the FF series thru the dvds and have been fairly successful. Oh, they enjoyed the series very much, but none as fanatically as I have. Interest seemed to be waning somewhat and I have been feeding tidbits about the movie as much as I can, and Meltingman answering questions here have helped much. I do let them know that there seem to be slightly different versions and the actual movie itself may turn out differently...or not. Interest has picked up again. I am even trying to get my friends and family to think about going to Australia with me to see the movie. Granted, just us alone isn't going to make a big difference. It's going to be a very expensive movie ticket for each of us.
I feel so bad that Meltingman (clearly having no ill intent)has been 'attacked' for his part here. :(

NAKEDANDARTICULATE

Friday, February 11, 2005 1:31 PM

gorrammit!!! i am soooo sick of people complaining about spoilers---you know what if the thread mentions spoilers,and you dont want to read spoilers---guess what? dont read the thread!"but i dont want to read spoilers"---what are you 5 ? do you want me to hold your hand? i guess what im trying to say is "quit yer whinin'"

"Hamsters is nice."

ZOL

Friday, February 11, 2005 5:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nakedandarticulate:
gorrammit!!! i am soooo sick of people complaining about spoilers---you know what if the thread mentions spoilers,and you dont want to read spoilers---guess what? dont read the thread!"but i dont want to read spoilers"---what are you 5 ? do you want me to hold your hand? i guess what im trying to say is "quit yer whinin'"

"Hamsters is nice."

I think you`ve got it wrong! It`s not about reading spoilers but getting the right information if that`s what you want - what`s been said here is that some things said here are not what was seen (in the UK). What has been said is not to believe everything you hear here, the thing with spoilers is to get the facts straight - If I said "Reavers look like people in big teddy bear outfits on screen" how would you know (apart from it being far fetched) that it isn`t so?

So again I say to take everything you read here with a pinch of salt until things can be confirmed by other sources.

Darin (Zol.)

PURPLEBELLY

Friday, February 11, 2005 5:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zol:
... "Reavers look like people in big teddy bear outfits on screen" ...

Just the sort of detail we could enjoy, for eight months at least. There are some very scary guys in West Africa in make-up and fashion wigs, after all. Clowns would have been derivative and not very credible, I agree.

MELTINGMAN

Friday, February 11, 2005 5:31 PM

Man how i'm excited about the possibility they have made changes. Regarding the information i have shared, this is what I have seen during my viewing. I did'nt add anything or stretch what i saw.
The different movie you saw I hope includes Wash not dying, and Mal not having a three foot sword shoved through his stomach and fighting for another 10 minutes!!!!

This is encouraging.

FORRESTWOLF

Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:14 PM

Here's my tidbits of independent confirmation:

1) We know there's a hovercraft chase scene - in the Comic Con trailer, there was one shown briefly.

2) The behind-the-scenes photos I released(which ended up in SFX Magazine, by the way) included university-campus-looking place where there were decomposed bodies just LYING ON THE GROUND like they'd...hmmm...lost the will to live and just lay down to die. Not reaverized, just collapsed. Sounds like the Reaver homeworld Meltingman described.

3) I've gotten a private email response with a person highly involved in the film who indicated that FTL/not-FTL indeed is left nebulous, likely on purpose.

That's it for me. I hope Wash and Book don't die!

THEDARKSHAPE

Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:41 AM

I'm lost. FTL?

ZOL

Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:59 AM

FTL = Faster Than Light(speed of Light)

In theory to make it practical to travel to he stars space craft must travel FTL as the distances are so large.

There is still the open question on how the people in the Firefly Universe actually got to where they are today with speculation on FTL travel or some other means (wormhole/stargate/portal etc.)- but nothing has been mentioed or seen for certain

Darin (Zol.)