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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Tuesday, February 7, 2023 8:02 PM (P)

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Free download of a single novel, The People Immortal from https://libgen.rocks/ads.php?md5=F07AD17F9DDB73B6675B1B410DA5514F or https://libgen.unblockit.ink/libraryp2/fiction/F07AD17F9DDB73B6675B1B4
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More pirating on the menu today I see.

You reporting those downloads to the IRS?

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Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 PM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

More pirating on the menu today I see.

You reporting those downloads to the IRS?

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

6ix, you live in darkness and confusion. Your imagination will make rules and laws that don't actually exist. On the other hand, actual laws and rules are unknown to you, which makes life hard for you.

To point out one reason the Russians had huge casualties during WWII, all out of proportion to how many would have died if the leadership was competent, there is this one order repeated in the translation to the novel The People Immortal:

ORDER NO. 270, ISSUED BY THE STAVKA (THE SOVIET SUPREME COMMAND) ON 16 AUGUST 1941
This concludes as follows:

In the ranks of the Red Army, can we tolerate cowards who desert to the enemy and surrender, or commanders so cowardly that, at the slightest hitch, they tear off their badges of rank and desert to the rear? No! If we give free rein to such cowards and deserters, they will promptly bring about the disintegration of our army and the destruction of our Motherland. Cowards and deserters must be destroyed.

Can a commander be called a commander if he hides in a slit trench during a battle, if he does not keep his eyes on the battlefield, if he does not observe the course of the battle from the front line – yet still sees himself as a battalion or regimental commander? No! Such a man is not a battalion or regimental commander but an impostor. Should we give free rein to such impostors, they will soon make the army into nothing more than a massive bureaucracy. […]

I ORDER:

1. That commanders and political officers who, during combat, tear off their badges of rank and desert to the rear or surrender to the enemy are to be considered malicious deserters, their families also subject to arrest as relatives of a man who has violated his oath and betrayed his Motherland.

All higher commanders and commissars are required to shoot on the spot any such deserters from among command personnel.

2. Units and sub-units encircled by the enemy are to fight selflessly to the last, to take care of their equipment like the apple of their eye and to break through to our main forces from behind the enemy front line, defeating the Fascist dogs.

Should his unit be surrounded, every Red Army man, regardless of rank or position, is required to demand from a higher commander that he fight to the last in order to break through to our main forces, and should such a commander or Red Army unit prefer to surrender rather than strike a blow against the enemy, all possible means, both ground and air, should be used to destroy them. The families of Red Army men who allow themselves to be taken prisoner are to be deprived of all state benefits and assistance.

3. Divisional commanders and commissars are required to immediately remove from their posts any battalion or regimental commander who hides in a slit trench during a battle and is afraid to direct the course of the fighting from the battlefield. Such men should be demoted as impostors, transferred to the ranks, and, if necessary, shot on the spot. They should be replaced by brave and courageous men from the junior command staff or from the ranks of Red Army soldiers who have distinguished themselves.

This Order to be read aloud in all infantry companies, cavalry troops, artillery batteries, aircraft squadrons, command posts and HQs.

Stavka of the Red Army Supreme Command
Chairman of the State Defence Committee I. STALIN
Deputy Chairman of the State Defence Committee V. MOLOTOV
Marshal S. BUDYONNY
Marshal S. TIMOSHENKO
Marshal B. SHAPOSHNIKOV
Army General G. ZHUKOV

This order is the kind of thing that someone, actually Stalin and Molotov, would give if he misunderstood almost completely how an Army wins fights without squandering the lives of the soldiers. There is reason to believe that Putin is as ign

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Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 PM (P)

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More pirating on the menu today I see.

You reporting those downloads to the IRS?

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6ix, you live in darkness and confusion. Your imagination will make rules and laws that don't actually exist. On the other hand, actual laws and rules are unknown to you, which makes life hard for you.



You're going to talk to me about laws when you're not only pirating stuff, but you're posting the links to pirated content on a public board that requires no signup to view, is based off of old http security tech, and is completely visible to a Google search?

If there were any moderators here, those links would be deleted immediately and you already would have been removed from this site years ago for multiple infractions.

Every time you post a link to pirated content on FFF.FANS, you risk putting Haken in a bad spot. I don't imagine that they'd ever go after Haken personally for any financial compensation (unless he stood his ground and told them to fuck off after the cease and desist letter makes it to his desk), but I would imagine that rather than do a deep dive into an old website that doesn't have the greatest search functionality it would be much easier for Haken to just shut the entire site down for good, rather than clean up your fucking mess that you've left all over the boards since you've been a member.

Stop posting pirated shit. Idiot.

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Tuesday, February 7, 2023 11:30 PM (P)

Meanwhile... back in Ukraine (and back on topic) ... things go from bad to worse for Zelenskiy and "his" war.

A number of Z's backers and friends have resigned, died, or been sacked lately.

Z's spin-meister and friend from his early acting days, Oleskey Aristovich, was the first to go. He resigned after saying a Ukrainian defense missile diverted a Russian missile, causing it to land on an apartment building. https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-01-17-adviser-to-ukraine-s-pres
ident-resigns-after-comments-about-%22dnipro-missile%22.rkbAk0bNjs.html
Ever since then, he's been singing out of tune, saying that Ukraine can't win the war. Since this is so unacceptable to the narrative ... and yet, he continues to live... in Ukraine... some people speculate that he's being protected by the CIA.

Next, Z's Interior Ministry ... yep, the top three people and nine others ... all died in a helicopter crash. https://www.foxnews.com/world/helicopter-crash-near-kyiv-leaves-18-dea
d-including-top-ukrainian-officials

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Interior Minister Denys Monastyrskyi, who oversaw Ukraine's police and emergency services, is the most senior official to die in Ukraine since Russia invaded nearly 11 months ago.
Monastyrskyi's deputy Yevhen Yenin and State Secretary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Yurii Lubkovych were also among those killed in the crash in Brovary, according to Ihor Klymenko, the chief of Ukraine’s National Police.

Opinion is divided on whether this was a fortuitous accident or assasination.

Shortly after that, oligarch Kolomoisky - who funded Z's TV show "Servant of the People" and then bankrolled his run for President - was investigated for corruption, and his home was raided. As was Ex-Interior Mininster Arsen Avakov. Considering the levelof corruption in Ukraine, nearly EVERYONE is guilty. This isn't an anti-corruption campaign, simply a targeted prosecution for political purposes. In addition

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The raids, first reported by the Ukrainian media, come after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last month pledged to eradicate corruption amid a high-profile graft scandal.

David Arakhamia, the leader of the Servant of the People faction in parliament, confirmed on Telegram that raids were carried out on the two men, as well as at the premises of the Tax Office, .

He added that the management team of the Customs Service would be dismissed and that Ukraine, which was plagued by deep-seated corruption before Russian troops invaded almost a year ago, would undergo a change.


https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-sbu-search-kolomoyskiy/32249253.html

Another high-profile dismissal is Oleskii Reznikov, Z's Defense Minister. Reznikov was tied to a scheme of overpaying (by a facctor of three) for food supplies for the troops. He managed to hang on by his fingernails for a week or two after the news came out, but was just replaced by the head of military intelligence, Major General Kyrylo Budanov.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-defence-minist
er-russia-war-latest-news-b2276355.html


Budanov is seen as being closer to USA neocons, while Z is closer to the Eu elites like BoJo the Clown and Urusula van der Crazy. Overall, the effect is to isolate Zelenskiy from his former backers and cronies and place a USA-controlled minister closer to the center of power.

BTW I was just grabbing the first relevant links I could find, but feel free to look up these events on your own since they've been all over the news.

Either the USA State Dept/ DoD/ CIA has gotten tired of pouring money into an endless hole of corruption and seeing littlein return, or they're tired of Z and is nose candy thinking that he's in charge and they're actively planning to replace Z once he's served his purpose.

*****

Meanwhile, on the ground ...

The battle for Bakhmut continues. At th

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 12:03 AM (P)

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More pirating on the menu today I see.

You reporting those downloads to the IRS?

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

6ix, you live in darkness and confusion. Your imagination will make rules and laws that don't actually exist. On the other hand, actual laws and rules are unknown to you, which makes life hard for you.

Every time you post a link to pirated content on FFF.FANS, you risk putting Haken in a bad spot. I don't imagine that they'd ever go after Haken personally for any financial compensation (unless he stood his ground and told them to fuck off after the cease and desist letter makes it to his desk), but I would imagine that rather than do a deep dive into an old website that doesn't have the greatest search functionality it would be much easier for Haken to just shut the entire site down for good, rather than clean up your fucking mess that you've left all over the boards since you've been a member.

Stop posting pirated shit. Idiot.

6ix, you misunderstand the law. You misunderstand even simpler things like "Responsibility". Who is going to teach you better? Certainly not the dimwits you live around. It is absolutely no surprise how much you, and your leader Trump, screwed up your own lives when you have a head crammed full of false or confused beliefs. This also is applicable to the Russians. It is no surprise that they have impoverished themselves with their ill schemes for running their economy. Partially to blame are the Marxists who have crammed false or confused beliefs into Russian heads for more than a century. The result is the Russians have an economy that performs poorly.

There is another reason Russia is poor compared to other nations. The government keeps threatening its citizens with death or imprisonment. The smartest citizens respond by emigrating. There has been a huge outflow of the smartest Russians for a century, leaving obviously dumb ones to take control and teach the next generation new lessons full of nonsense and foolishness. The smartest from that next generation will also leave Russia for better countries, leaving Russia even stupider. The remainder of the 21st Century will be worse for Russia because the smartest have already left during the Ukraine war. This will happen even if Russia wins.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 12:18 AM (P)

SECOND, slinging mud to avoid the topic. As usual.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 12:32 AM (P)

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Meanwhile... back in Ukraine (and back on topic) ... things go from bad to worse for Zelenskiy and "his" war.

You should wait before burying Ukraine. It hasn't lost. The Russians' best move is to declare victory, evacuate all Russian speakers from areas it now controls, including Crimea, and go home. Then it can strive to become wealthy as the next Canada. Canada doesn't seem to feel threatened by the existence of the US directly on its border. Either Canada is crazy to trust the US to not invade Canada or Russia is crazy for feeling threatened by NATO. It is either one or the other. I suggest Putin see a therapist about his fears of NATO.

By the way, Signym, it is not mudslinging to call a crazy, irresponsible, violent ignoramus for being crazy, irresponsible, violent, and ignorant. Whether it is Putin, Trump or 6ix.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:00 AM (P)

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I don't believe the UN numbers, just like I don't believe OPCW, HRW, AI, or Medecins sans Frontieres.

While I'm at it, I don't believe the CIA, FBI, DOJ, Kiev, NED or AID either. OPCW has earned special emnity from the people of the Donbas for ignoring shelling by Kiev.

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Since 2014, about 9,000 civilians have been killed in the Donbass. Such data were presented at the press conference “Scorched memory of Donbass: war crimes of the Ukrainian army and new data on the massacres of the civilian population.”

According to the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic (LPR) Anna Soroka, more than 2,000 civilians, including 35 children, were killed during the conflict in the republic, 3,365 people were injured, including 88 minors.

The Commissioner for Human Rights in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Daria Morozova, said that more than 5,000 people, including 91 minor children, became victims among the population of the DPR. About 8 thousand more people were injured of varying severity during this period.


https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzania/news/international/how-many-live
s-has-the-war-in-donbass-taken--3724098




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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake



And this is why you're not worth talking to, beyond calling out every now and then. It's what I was talking to Six about: agreement of basic facts. Your response to reputable figures that you don't like (the UN - Russia, China and a whole load of Russia-friendly countries are in the UN) is... to post an article from a Tanzanian website that quotes pro-Russian officials. (Let's face it, you googled specifically for the "facts" that you wanted, and then picked the first result you could find that looked like a vaguely neutral and reputable source).

So you'll reject basically any source that reports something you don't want to hear, and you'll accept any source that gives you the "facts" you want? This is a recipe for being completely unmoored from reality. And this is, of course, what we see reflected in your posts.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:14 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile... back in Ukraine (and back on topic) ... things go from bad to worse for Zelenskiy and "his" war.

A number of Z's backers and friends have resigned, died, or been sacked lately.

Z's spin-meister and friend from his early acting days, Oleskey Aristovich, was the first to go. He resigned after saying a Ukrainian defense missile diverted a Russian missile, causing it to land on an apartment building. https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-01-17-adviser-to-ukraine-s-pres
ident-resigns-after-comments-about-%22dnipro-missile%22.rkbAk0bNjs.html
Ever since then, he's been singing out of tune, saying that Ukraine can't win the war. Since this is so unacceptable to the narrative ... and yet, he continues to live... in Ukraine... some people speculate that he's being protected by the CIA.

Next, Z's Interior Ministry ... yep, the top three people and nine others ... all died in a helicopter crash. https://www.foxnews.com/world/helicopter-crash-near-kyiv-leaves-18-dea
d-including-top-ukrainian-officials

Quote:

Interior Minister Denys Monastyrskyi, who oversaw Ukraine's police and emergency services, is the most senior official to die in Ukraine since Russia invaded nearly 11 months ago.
Monastyrskyi's deputy Yevhen Yenin and State Secretary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Yurii Lubkovych were also among those killed in the crash in Brovary, according to Ihor Klymenko, the chief of Ukraine’s National Police.

Opinion is divided on whether this was a fortuitous accident or assasination.

Shortly after that, oligarch Kolomoisky - who funded Z's TV show "Servant of the People" and then bankrolled his run for President - was investigated for corruption, and his home was raided. As was Ex-Interior Mininster Arsen Avakov. Considering the levelof corruption in Ukraine, nearly EVERYONE is guilty. This isn't an anti-corruption campaign, simply a targeted prosecution for political purposes. In addition

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The raids, first reported by the Ukrainian media, come after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy last month pledged to eradicate corruption amid a high-profile graft scandal.

David Arakhamia, the leader of the Servant of the People faction in parliament, confirmed on Telegram that raids were carried out on the two men, as well as at the premises of the Tax Office, .

He added that the management team of the Customs Service would be dismissed and that Ukraine, which was plagued by deep-seated corruption before Russian troops invaded almost a year ago, would undergo a change.


https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-sbu-search-kolomoyskiy/32249253.html

Another high-profile dismissal is Oleskii Reznikov, Z's Defense Minister. Reznikov was tied to a scheme of overpaying (by a facctor of three) for food supplies for the troops. He managed to hang on by his fingernails for a week or two after the news came out, but was just replaced by the head of military intelligence, Major General Kyrylo Budanov.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-defence-minist
er-russia-war-latest-news-b2276355.html


Budanov is seen as being closer to USA neocons, while Z is closer to the Eu elites like BoJo the Clown and Urusula van der Crazy. Overall, the effect is to isolate Zelenskiy from his former backers and cronies and place a USA-controlled minister closer to the center of power.

BTW I was just grabbing the first relevant links I could find, but feel free to look up these events on your own since they've been all over the news.

Either the USA State Dept/ DoD/ CIA has gotten tired of pouring money into an endless hole of corruption and seeing littlein return, or they're tired of Z and is nose candy thinking that he's in charge and they're actively planning to replace Z once he's served his purpose.

*****

Meanwhile, on the ground ...

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:17 AM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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More pirating on the menu today I see.

You reporting those downloads to the IRS?

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

6ix, you live in darkness and confusion. Your imagination will make rules and laws that don't actually exist. On the other hand, actual laws and rules are unknown to you, which makes life hard for you.

Every time you post a link to pirated content on FFF.FANS, you risk putting Haken in a bad spot. I don't imagine that they'd ever go after Haken personally for any financial compensation (unless he stood his ground and told them to fuck off after the cease and desist letter makes it to his desk), but I would imagine that rather than do a deep dive into an old website that doesn't have the greatest search functionality it would be much easier for Haken to just shut the entire site down for good, rather than clean up your fucking mess that you've left all over the boards since you've been a member.

Stop posting pirated shit. Idiot.

6ix, you misunderstand the law.


No. YOU misunderstand the law.

And even though nobody is probably going to go after Haken for some dumb books that nobody cares about or some comic books that even less people care about, you're poking a big fucking bear when you post a link to a pirated version of Avatar 2. Disney doesn't fuck around and has wiped websites off the map that share their stuff illegally.

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You misunderstand even simpler things like "Responsibility".


Don't you dare talk to me about responsibility when it's no sweat off your nutsack if you put Haken in a position where he ends up shutting down this site because YOU cause him to get a cease and desist order for sharing pirated content all over the site.

Stop posting pirated shit here. I'm not asking you. I'm telling you.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:44 AM (P)

K2PO: If the USA and the west are doing so great, why is our living standard plummeting and why can't we keep up with Russian military production?

Maybe bc our GDP and CPI figures are as bogus as our figures of Russian casualties?

AFA not believing the UN: It has a strong pro-western bias built in since many of its organizations are dominated by western nations.

Since the UN has spun facts (if not outright lied) I take everything they say with a grain of salt. As I take EVERY statement from everyone with a grain of salt. Some, a bigger grain than others.

You, OTIH, "believe", which is always a mistake.

But, yanno, keep believing in your narrative. Just don't come crying to me when it crumbles


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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 8:18 AM (P)

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As I take EVERY statement from everyone with a grain of salt. Some, a bigger grain than others.


But we can see clearly that you don't take information with a grain of salt when it comes to Russia. There, you believe what you're told, without any apparent hint of self-awareness. You posted pro-Russian separatist figures to refute UN figures. How do you know you can trust the pro-Russian figures? Is it not clear to you that they are aligned with Moscow and have an incentive to inflate civilian deaths?

I believe in healthy skepticism: No source is perfect. But not everyone is part of a propaganda agenda. There are some people and institutions trying to report the truth.

You believe in a kind of radical skepticism: Everyone has an agenda. Everyone is trying to deceive you. Be distrustful of everyone. Specks of golden truth can only be obtained by panning carefully in the many streams of lies.

Does that sum up your view?

Here's the problem. You are not remotely consistent. You are distrustful of information that challenges your worldview, but when information matches your worldview, you absorb it without question. As we saw with the Donbas civilian deaths example. This is human nature, btw. We are all guilty of this. But the difference between me and you: I sometimes accept information that challenges my worldview. Because I have respect for some sources. You have respect for no sources, so you NEVER accept information that challenges your worldview. This is why I say you are unmoored from reality.

Radical skepticism sounds wise, but it is the wisdom of the conspiracy theorist.

One last thing: you say you take the UN etc. with a big pinch of salt because of their history of lying. Now this is interesting. At some point it was pointed out to you by some outlets (probably many in your media ecosystem) that the UN could not be trusted because X, Y, Z. Here's my question to you: did you take these outlets' word with a pinch of salt? Do those outlets never lie? And if they do lie, what is their agenda, and does that not cast doubt on what they say about the UN?

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:18 PM (P)

Putin Is Right: The War in Ukraine Is Partly America’s Fault

The U.S. was totally seduced by the money flowing out of Russia and helped Putin become all-powerful. The last year has shown us the consequences.

Vladimir Putin did not appear out of a vacuum to birth a gangster state, invade Ukraine, roil the planet in chaos, and order his hobgoblins on Russian television to incessantly threaten the world with mushroom clouds.

“Russia’s conquests and violence are the most natural and legitimate thing that has ever been done in history,” is one of the more recent soundbites from former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev.

The distressing question is whether there’s even a tinkle of truth to Putin’s bombast that the U.S. shoulders blame for Russia’s global aggression. Three decades of post-Cold War wheeling and dealing between Russia and the U.S. provide compelling evidence that Putin is right—but clearly not for the reasons spewed by him and his propagandists.

Nine years of news reports from Putin’s war in Ukraine—which exploded into a full land invasion almost 12 months ago—assorted armed mischiefs in Africa and assassinations of political opponents at home and abroad only continues to blur this historically larger and more damning canvas. It’s a portrait that illustrates the West’s three decades of collaboration to enrich Russian leaders, aid and abet their oligarchs, and use diplomatic guff such as “balance of power” to empower Putin.

Even before Putin strong-armed his way into the Kremlin throne room in 2000 , the former KGB agent who was assistant to St. Petersburg Mayor Anatoly Sobchak, instigated a new financial dance with the West that would revolutionize Russia’s finances.

Putin’s Money Spinner

It was a modern twist on the Bolshevik “quartermaster” system, which he perfected once he was in the presidential suite. The procedure involved a Russian enterprise entering into lucrative and opaque joint-venture contracts with Western energy, manufacturing, distribution or trading companies. The split was always 51/49, with the Russian entity given ham-fisted jurisdiction of the lion’s share and always through one of Putin’s hundreds of genuflecting oligarchs, all hiding the details of the transactions beneath secretive layers of completely legal offshore companies.

Investment bankers—who during the 1998 Ruble Without a Cause economic crash said they’d rather eat cabbages from Chernobyl than lend to Russia—liked the new tune coming from Putin’s mouth and leveraged the sound of his music to peddle more Russian shares and bonds.

"The macro picture looks all very great, but you have a problem with almost every stock you look at," Morgan Stanley Dean Witter emerging market specialist John-Paul Smith cautioned at the dawn of the Putin era. "Everything is tainted on an individual basis."

Putin’s quartermasters were just as aware of the dodgy consequences of these deals as they were the shared profits that enriched them and created the global oligarch class. Somehow lost or ignored in the cash pile, however, was how Putin was spending Russia’s cut: Militarization.

More at https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-is-right-the-war-in-ukraine-is-par
tly-americas-fault


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 6:40 PM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

No. YOU misunderstand the law.

And even though nobody is probably going to go after Haken for some dumb books that nobody cares about or some comic books that even less people care about, you're poking a big fucking bear when you post a link to a pirated version of Avatar 2. Disney doesn't fuck around and has wiped websites off the map that share their stuff illegally.

Don't you dare talk to me about responsibility when it's no sweat off your nutsack if you put Haken in a position where he ends up shutting down this site because YOU cause him to get a cease and desist order for sharing pirated content all over the site.

Stop posting pirated shit here. I'm not asking you. I'm telling you.

What would irritate 6ix the most? I know!

A) Searching for Avatar The Way of Water in All Categories
https://1337x.unblockit.bio/search/Avatar+the+way+of+water/1/ The "/" at the end is very important. Without the "/" there will be an error 404 Not Found

B) Free and reliable P2P Bittorrent client necessary to download Avatar The Way of Water:
https://www.qbittorrent.org/

C) The worst that can happen to the downloader is receiving a Notice of Action under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)
What is the worst that can happen to fireflyfans.net? Nothing because it is not infringing on anyone's copyright by including Line A).
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/what-to-do-if-you-get-a-copyright-i
nfringement-notice


6ix, I look forward to your foaming-at-the-mouth, howling-at-the-moon, unhinged-from-reality response. Please go as weird as your feverish imagination makes it possible.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 7:02 PM (P)

I'll just leave it in Haken's thread and be done with it. I've never had a dialogue with Haken in my life, and he's a man. He can deal with it as he sees fit.

I'm not babysitting the child at his website.


I'm sorry everybody if Second gets fireflyfans.net shut down because he is an irresponsible, selfish little prick.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 7:19 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll just leave it in Haken's thread and be done with it. I've never had a dialogue with Haken in my life, and he's a man. He can deal with it as he sees fit.

I'm not babysitting the child at his website.


I'm sorry everybody if Second gets fireflyfans.net shut down because he is an irresponsible, selfish little prick.

You forgot to say "Fuck U. . ." as you do habitually. I would bet that Haken has sympathy for Ukraine's plight, but not for yours, 6ix. Maybe you should protest this possible lack of empathy toward your neediness in life? Think of something dramatic, 6ix, because your craziness, ineffectiveness, and endless difficulties are almost as entertaining as Trump's. Trump and 6ix share an unworthy purpose in life -- to be the insane clowns throwing pies full of shaving cream and missing the targets.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 7:26 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll just leave it in Haken's thread and be done with it. I've never had a dialogue with Haken in my life, and he's a man. He can deal with it as he sees fit.

I'm not babysitting the child at his website.


I'm sorry everybody if Second gets fireflyfans.net shut down because he is an irresponsible, selfish little prick.

You forgot to say "Fuck U. . ." as you do habitually. I would bet that Haken has sympathy for Ukraine's plight, but not for yours, 6ix. Maybe you should protest this possible lack of empathy toward your neediness in life? Think of something dramatic, 6ix, because your craziness, ineffectiveness, and endless difficulties are almost as entertaining as Trump's. Trump and 6ix share an unworthy purpose in life -- to be the insane clowns throwing pies full of shaving cream and missing the targets.

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This has nothing to do with Ukraine.

You are going to get the site shut down because you are a little boy.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2023 11:28 PM (P)

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This has nothing to do with Ukraine.

You are going to get the site shut down because you are a little boy.

I will test your theory of how reality works by posting this story. Start the countdown until the explosive shutdown of fff.net. Ticktock, ticktock, kaboom! :

How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
by Seymour Hersh, Feb 8, 2023

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stre
am


The U.S. Navy’s Diving and Salvage Center can be found in a location as obscure as its name—down what was once a country lane in rural Panama City, a now-booming resort city in the southwestern panhandle of Florida, 70 miles south of the Alabama border. The center’s complex is as nondescript as its location—a drab concrete post-World War II structure that has the look of a vocational high school on the west side of Chicago. A coin-operated laundromat and a dance school are across what is now a four-lane road.

The center has been training highly skilled deep-water divers for decades who, once assigned to American military units worldwide, are capable of technical diving to do the good—using C4 explosives to clear harbors and beaches of debris and unexploded ordinance—as well as the bad, like blowing up foreign oil rigs, fouling intake valves for undersea power plants, destroying locks on crucial shipping canals. The Panama City center, which boasts the second largest indoor pool in America, was the perfect place to recruit the best, and most taciturn, graduates of the diving school who successfully did last summer what they had been authorized to do 260 feet under the surface of the Baltic Sea.

Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.

Two of the pipelines, which were known collectively as Nord Stream 1, had been providing Germany and much of Western Europe with cheap Russian natural gas for more than a decade. A second pair of pipelines, called Nord Stream 2, had been built but were not yet operational. Now, with Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border and the bloodiest war in Europe since 1945 looming, President Joseph Biden saw the pipelines as a vehicle for Vladimir Putin to weaponize natural gas for his political and territorial ambitions.

Asked for comment, Adrienne Watson, a White House spokesperson, said in an email, “This is false and complete fiction.” Tammy Thorp, a spokesperson for the Central Intelligence Agency, similarly wrote: “This claim is completely and utterly false.”

Biden’s decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than nine months of highly secret back and forth debate inside Washington’s national security community about how to best achieve that goal. For much of that time, the issue was not whether to do the mission, but how to get it done with no overt clue as to who was responsible.

There was a vital bureaucratic reason for relying on the graduates of the center’s hardcore diving school in Panama City. The divers were Navy only, and not members of America’s Special Operations Command, whose covert operations must be reported to Congress and briefed in advance to the Senate and House leadership—the so-called Gang of Eight. The Biden Administration was doing everything possible to avoid leaks as the planning took place late in 2021 and into the first months of 2022.

President Biden and his foreign policy team—National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, Secretary of State Tony Blinken, and Victoria Nuland, the Undersecretary of State for Policy—had been vocal and consistent in their hostility to the two pipelines, which ran side by side for 750 miles under the Baltic Sea from two different ports in northeastern Russia near the Estonian border, passing close to the Danish island of Bornholm before ending in northern Ge

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 12:07 AM (P)

Huh. My money was on the UK.

By now it should be clear to Germans that Germany is a secondary target of the USA/UK. It's funny watching how Germany was pressured into givig Ukraine some of their Leopard tanks on the promise that their "friends and allies" would also chip in tanks, only to find that the USA is having problems coming up with Abrams tanks and the UK can't scratch up any Challenger tanks and France won't send Leclercs and many EU nations are suddenly finding it impossible to meet their Leopard tank commitments.

What did Norman Mailer say?

"I'd hate to be leading a parade and find there was nobody behind me"?

Talk about being stabbed in the back!

And the German political sphere would react except the Green Party, which used to be antiwar and now has an outsized control of German policy, was infiltrated and taken over by the CIA. And Schloz is a spinless doofus who may be hopping mad but can only wave his tiny fists and stamp his widdle feet. And then, only in private!

It's too funny!

Given that German living standards are plummeting, along with industrial output, this semi-naked aggression against Germany is setting up the current political parties for an implosion. I know tha CIA has tight control of German media, maybe the German govt will go for suppression, but Sahra Wagenknecht, a member of die Linke (far left party) is splitting with her party's globalist stance and now is as popular with AfD (right populist party) for her pro-German leftist stance. She could be a ral alternative. Or, she could be torpedoed, like other populist leaders (le Pen, etc)

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 12:55 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh. My money was on the UK.

By now it should be clear to Germans that Germany is a secondary target of the USA/UK.

Maybe the Germans are aware that Ramzan Kadyrov, a key ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has begun rattling off threats about attacking Poland after Ukraine.

Kadyrov, the head of Chechnya, suggested Monday that Russia should “denazify and demilitarize” Poland next.

“What if, after the successful completion of the NMD, Russia begins to denazify and demilitarize the next country? After all, after Ukraine, Poland is on the map! I will not hide that I personally have such an intention,” Kadyrov said on Telegram. “I personally have such an intention, and I have repeatedly stated that the fight against Satanism should continue throughout Europe and, first of all, on the territory of Poland.”

Kadyrov warned Tuesday that the time has come for the West to fall to its knees before Russia, predicting that the so-called “special military operation” in Ukraine, would be over by the end of 2023.

“The special [military] operation will be over before the end of this year. European countries will admit they have been wrong, the West will fall to its knees, and, as usual, European countries will have to cooperate with the Russian Federation in all spheres,” Kadyrov said, according to TASS. “There should not and will never be an alternative to that.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-putin-ally-ramzan-kadyrov-says-he-wi
ll-not-hide-intention-to-invade-poland-anymore


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Thursday, February 9, 2023 1:18 AM (P)

Well, apparently Scholz was in on the plot.

I can't imagine him being in office long when Germans learn this. There will be a political crisis brewing and Scholz will be (rightly) seen as a traitor. Either there will be full-on repression or a political upheaval. Possibly both.

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 1:38 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, apparently Scholz was in on the plot.

I can't imagine him being in office long when Germans learn this. There will be a political crisis brewing and Scholz will be (rightly) seen as a traitor. Either there will be full-on repression or a political upheaval. Possibly both.

The Nord Stream natural gas pipeline was owned by Russia, not Germany, so it is not like the German Prime Minister ordered German property destroyed.

Russia will sue the US government for damages. Since Justice is extremely swift because lawyers are famous for designing well-functioning systems that make rapid and fair decisions, surely Russia will be paid very soon.

None of the four Nord Stream pipes were currently operational, bringing the Nord Stream project to an effective standstill. In reaction to this, U.S. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken stated that "... it’s a tremendous opportunity to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy and thus to take away from Vladimir Putin the weaponization of energy as a means of advancing his imperial designs. ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 1:47 AM (P)

The Russian private paramilitary outfit, the Wagner Group, is reportedly employing increasingly predatory recruitment practices in Russia's prisons as its founder and chief financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin, faces difficulties in finding new hires.

Now, as reports and data indicate that Prigozhin is struggling to draw in new recruits, Russian prisoners are effectively being forced to join the Wagner Group. Convicts are being threatened with new criminal cases should they refuse, independent Russian news outlet Agentstvo reported on Wednesday.

Lawyer Yana Gelmel told the news outlet that Russian prisoners in colonies located in the Samara and Rostov regions, the Krasnodar Territory, and the regions of the North Caucasus, are being pressured to join the once-shadowy paramilitary unit.

"The operatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the FSB arrive [to these prisons], promise to bring up [cases] that are 10-20 years old, for which the statute of limitations has already passed, [and] they scare that they will initiate cases against those who refuse to go to war," Gelmel said.

According to Agentstvo, she learned of the new recruitment practice from several of her sources in the penitentiary system across various Russian regions.

"They threaten to initiate cases against those who refuse to go to war," she said.

Gelmel noted that now, far fewer convicts are voluntarily agreeing to join the Wagner Group compared to the summer and autumn months of 2022 because convicts are learning about the high fatality rate in the war.

The news outlet cited Oksana Asaulenko, a human rights activist and the mother of a prisoner held in Russia's Perm Territory whose sentence is ending soon. She reportedly told the news outlet that her son was being threatened to join the Wagner Group.

The developments come as Prigozhin's recruitment drive in Russian prisons appears to be faltering.

https://www.newsweek.com/wagner-group-yevgeny-prigozhin-recruiting-tac
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Thursday, February 9, 2023 4:07 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, apparently Scholz was in on the plot.

I can't imagine him being in office long when Germans learn this. There will be a political crisis brewing and Scholz will be (rightly) seen as a traitor. Either there will be full-on repression or a political upheaval. Possibly both.

The Nord Stream natural gas pipeline was owned by Russia, not Germany, so it is not like the German Prime Minister ordered German property destroyed.

Russia will sue the US government for damages. Since Justice is extremely swift because lawyers are famous for designing well-functioning systems that make rapid and fair decisions, surely Russia will be paid very soon.

None of the four Nord Stream pipes were currently operational, bringing the Nord Stream project to an effective standstill. In reaction to this, U.S. Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken stated that "... it’s a tremendous opportunity to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy and thus to take away from Vladimir Putin the weaponization of energy as a means of advancing his imperial designs. ..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream

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German industrial competitiveness and the German standard of living depends on cheap energy. I don't think forcing German industry and people to pay up to 5X more for energy will improve their standard of living. Forcing Germans to be "free' of Russia's nat gas may be IN OUR interest, but whether or not the Germans want to pay the price- literally- well, in a democracy isn't that for the GERMANS to decide?

Germans could quite justifiably see the secret agreement to blow up their standard of living as a betrayal.

As usual, you're obfuscating the issue.
Liar.

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 6:42 PM (P)

Ukraine intercepted Russian plans to destroy Moldova

February 9, 2023, 6:36 AM

BRUSSELS -- Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Thursday that his country has intercepted plans by Russian secret services to destroy Moldova

Speaking to European Union leaders in Brussels, Zelenskyy said he recently told Moldovan President Maia Sandu about the alleged scheme.

“I have informed her that we have intercepted the plan of the destruction of Moldova by the Russian intelligence," Zelenskyy said through a translator.

Zelenskyy said the documents showed “who, when and how" the plan would "break the democracy of Moldova and establish control over Moldova."

Zelenskyy said the plan was very similar to the one devised by Russia to take over Ukraine. He added that he did not know whether Moscow ultimately ordered the plan to be carried out.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov charged last week that the West was considering turning Moldova into “another Ukraine.” He alleged that the West backed the 2020 election of the pro-Western Sandu, claiming that she is eager to take the country into NATO, merge Moldova with Romania and “practically is ready for anything.”

In December, Moldova’s national intelligence agency warned that Russia could launch a new offensive this year with the aim of creating a land corridor through southern Ukraine to Moldova’s Moscow-backed breakaway region of Transnistria.

Transnistria broke away after a 1992 civil war but is not recognized by most countries. It extends roughly 400 kilometers (250 miles) from the eastern bank of the Dniester River to the country’s border with Ukraine. Russia has about 1,500 troops nominally as “peacekeepers” in the breakaway region.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/zelenskyy-ukraine-inter
cepted-plans-destroy-moldova-97001285


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Thursday, February 9, 2023 6:47 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

German industrial competitiveness and the German standard of living depends on cheap energy. I don't think forcing German industry and people to pay up to 5X more for energy will improve their standard of living. Forcing Germans to be "free' of Russia's nat gas may be IN OUR interest, but whether or not the Germans want to pay the price- literally- well, in a democracy isn't that for the GERMANS to decide?
Liar.

Let me check the truth of your statement: "Germany Natural Gas Border Price is at a current level of 35.37, up from 28.79 last month and down from 37.36 one year ago. This is a change of 22.85% from last month and -5.34% from one year ago." https://ycharts.com/indicators/germany_natural_gas_border_price

Before the war started, before the pipeline from Russia stopped flowing because Russia stopped pumping for "maintenance", before the pipeline was bombed, the price of natural gas was higher than it is now. There are other forces than bombing a pipeline that had already raised prices.

Germany Natural Gas Border Price
35.37 USD/MMBtu for Dec 2022

35.37 December 31,2022
28.79 November 30,2022
20.81 October 31,2022
55.18 September 30, 2022
69.98 August 31,2022
51.15 July 31, 2022
32.91 June 30, 2022
27.46 May 31, 2022
31.99 April 30,2022
41.73 March 31,2022
26.98 February 28,2022
27.89 January 31,2022
37.36 December 31,2021
https://ycharts.com/indicators/germany_natural_gas_border_price

Global price of Natural gas, EU US$/MMBtu

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZQow

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 10:48 PM (P)

Funny,but that graph contradicts the one you posted before, which had a longer timeline.
I see you're still posting from the psych ward.

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Thursday, February 9, 2023 11:01 PM (P)

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Funny,but that graph contradicts the one you posted before, which had a longer timeline.
I see you're still posting from the psych ward.

I presume you misunderstand the difference between Germany's price for natural gas and the average price all of the EU pays. One graph is for one price and the other is for the other price.

Here is a number for you: 20. I expect Signym to flippantly disregard 20, either saying the number is incorrect or that losing 20 of anything is of little consequence for almighty and powerful Russia.

Japan estimates that 20 of Putin's generals have been killed in the war, based on intelligence gathered by Tokyo in cooperation with the United States and Europe.

The former chief of staff of Japan's Ground Self-Defense Force described the tally as "unbelievably high," while speaking to Nikkei Asia, especially when compared with the U.S. which has seen almost no combat deaths of officers ranked that highly.

"The death of a general weakens troop morale," he said.

The news outlet reported that one theory for such high losses was that Ukraine located commanders by tracking signals from their cell phones, which were used due to communication shortcomings earlier in the war.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-generals-killed-war-ukraine-japanese-
intelligence-1780131


Deaths in Russia's top brass unnerve India and China

Military inadequacies in Ukraine raise questions for security relationships

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Comment/Deaths-in-Russia-s-top-brass
-unnerve-India-and-China


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Friday, February 10, 2023 6:25 PM (P)

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW), based in Washington, noted in its daily assessment of the conflict that on February 9, Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council, visited a tank manufacturing plant in the Omsk Oblast and highlighted the need for Russia to ramp up production of modern tanks.

"Medvedev likely framed his calls for increased production as a response to Western military assistance to obscure the fact that substantial military equipment losses are driving the need for increased production," the ISW said.

Moscow has moved 50-year-old T-62 tanks from "deep storage" to be deployed for use by its Southern Grouping of Forces.

The ISW observed that Dutch open-source group Oryx reported Russian forces have, throughout the course of the war, lost 1,012 destroyed tanks in Ukraine, with an additional 546 tanks captured by Ukrainian forces.

These combined losses represent roughly half the tanks that Russian forces committed to Ukraine at the start of the invasion, the ISW said, citing Oryx data.

In a failed attempt to take the eastern Ukrainian city of Vuhledar, Russian forces are believed to have lost dozens of armored vehicles, the British ministry of defense assessed on Friday.

Last month, Denis Pushilin, Russia's leader in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, said that the capture of the Vuhledar region will be a game-changer for Russia's war efforts. "Taking control of this settlement will provide our troops with access to the Krasnoarmiysk (Pokrovsk) and Kurakhovskoye directions," he told state-run news agency RIA Novosti.

This month, "Russian troops likely fled and abandoned at least 30 mostly intact armored vehicles in a single incident after a failed assault," the ministry said in a daily assessment of the conflict.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-loss-tanks-terminator-vuhledar-1780353

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Friday, February 10, 2023 10:19 PM (P)

Moldova's prime minister, Natalia Gavrilita, resigned on Friday, soon after her country confirmed reports that a Russian missile had entered its airspace.

"If a country can start an annexation war without any regard for international law, then in this sense, nobody is safe," Gavrilita said. "I think a lot of countries are worried."

In discussing her decision to step down during a news conference, Gavrilita cited a lack of support for enacting her planned reforms but did not reference the recent report out of Ukraine about a Russian missile crossing over Moldova's airspace on early Friday.

That report came from General Valeriy Zaluzhny, the commander-in-chief of Ukraine's armed forces, who announced that two Russian missiles were launched from the Black Sea and passed over the borders of Moldova and Romania before re-entering Ukraine.

Romania, a member of NATO, later said a Russian missile had not crossed over borders. However, Moldova said that one of Putin's missiles violated its airspace. As a result, Moldovan Foreign Minister Nicu Popescu summoned Russia's ambassador to Moldova over what he called an "unacceptable" incident.

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-loses-ally-after-warning-that-putin-p
lanned-destroy-moldova-1780423


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Saturday, February 11, 2023 3:21 AM (P)

The Russian journalist who grabbed the world's attention last year when she protested against the war in Ukraine on live Russian state television, described her "extraordinary" escape to France on Friday.

Marina Ovsyannikova, who was facing 10 years in prison, fled Russia in October just before being sentenced.

The former editor at Channel One made global headlines in March when she barged onto the set of its flagship Vremya evening news program, holding a poster reading "No War."

She was assisted in her escape by the France-based Reporters Without Borders, using seven different vehicles and walking across the border into a forest at night.

"We had to navigate by the stars and it was a real challenge," she told a press conference at the RSF headquarters in Paris.

"We were hiding from the lights of border guards and tractors that were circulating but we finally succeeded and reached the border."

The 44-year-old mother of two, who had been under house arrest and had to cut through an electronic bracelet during her escape, said she had been reluctant to leave Russia.

"It was still my country, even if war criminals have taken power, but they didn't give me a choice — it was either prison or emigration," she said.

More at https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/10/russian-journalist-who-made-
anti-war-protest-on-tv-describes-escape-to-france-a80202


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Saturday, February 11, 2023 4:27 PM (P)

Russia State TV Says Eliminating U.S. Military Is Ultimate Goal

A Russian political scientist said on state television that the "denazification and demilitarization" of the U.S. is Russia's ultimate goal.

Speaking on the Russia 1 channel, Yevgeny Satanovsky, president of the Middle East Institute in Moscow, called for the "de-Americanization of Eurasia," including the withdrawal of military assets from NATO members close to the Russian border.

"I once talked about the de-Americanization of Eurasia," Satanovsky said on February 9. "The withdrawal to that security border—the NATO borders of 1997—about which was talked at the end of the year before last [2021], before the [special military operation] began."

He added: "No, this is no longer Russia's security. Today it is not security at all. Security is the absence of American military bases and nuclear weapons from Lisbon to Tokyo, to Okinawa."

Russia has claimed that a 1997 agreement between Russia and NATO prohibited the establishment of military bases in ex-Soviet nations, but analysts say this is a myth perpetuated by Kremlin propaganda. Since then, 14 nations have joined NATO, including many Baltic states that were formerly under communist rule.

Satanovsky continued, saying America "shouldn't be in Eurasia, and those bases shouldn't be there too. There shouldn't be a single point where these guys can start concentrating troops and creep up on our borders, concentrating nukes and bringing them to our borders. There shouldn't be any. That's the first goal."

Russian propaganda has used the Western defensive arming of Ukraine as justification for its claim that the battle was ultimately with NATO and the West. However, NATO has explicitly stated that claims it's at war with Russia are a "myth," including that NATO poses an aggressive threat to Moscow.

Satanovsky said that the removal of American arms from Europe and Asia was just one goal of the Russian state.

"Right now, I'm not talking about the denazification and demilitarization of the United States," he said. "But generally speaking, this is also a goal because the de-Americanization of world politics is an important task."

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-eliminating-american-military
-ultimate-goal-1780330


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https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, February 11, 2023 4:42 PM (P)

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Satanovsky continued, saying America "shouldn't be in Eurasia, and those bases shouldn't be there too. There shouldn't be a single point where these guys can start concentrating troops and creep up on our borders, concentrating nukes and bringing them to our borders. There shouldn't be any. That's the first goal."

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-eliminating-american-military
-ultimate-goal-1780330

What is odd about Russia's worry that NATO is creeping up to Russia's border with nukes is that nukes work very quickly when fired from 1,600 miles away. Distance means nothing:

The dates that Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected to launch an ‘unstoppable’ nuclear Satan-2 missile have been revealed. Its reach is capable of destroying the United Kingdom within six minutes, even from a distance of 1,600 miles.

Putin is readying the missile to shock the West, as he plans to test launch his 208-tonne hypersonic Satan-2 apocalypse missile within days.

The firing of the explosive, which is capable of carrying nuclear warheads, may coincide with the anniversary of the start of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which began on February 24, 2022.

Reportedly, military insiders say that they have been warned to expect the launch of the “unstoppable” Satan-2 missile between February 15 and 25.

It has also been suggested on the MilitaryRussia.ru Telegram channel that Putin could stage test launches of the Bulava or Yars, which is a development of the Topol missile.

Previously, the intercontinental ballistic missile was hailed by the Russian despot as being able to fly over the North or South Poles and strike any target in the world.

Speaking about the missile in March 2018, during his state-of-the-nation speech, Putin said: “No defense systems will be able to withstand it.”

News of the tests follows reports that Russia is massing 1,800 tanks, 700 aircraft, and a whopping 500,000 men for a new Ukraine assault in just 10 days, according to a Ukrainian official.

Foreign Policy has also reported that Putin is also gathering 2,700 artillery guns and 810 rocket launchers for a “new wave of attacks”.

An official added: “It’s much bigger than what took place in the first wave.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/world/putin-nuclear-satan2-russia-ukrain
e-b2279633.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, February 12, 2023 1:48 AM (P)

https://www.ft.com/content/d52bcb07-ba5f-4ffd-a919-53bcf9085690

Now that Europe is getting used to living without Russian gas why would they ever go back?

Russian president Vladimir Putin has “lost the energy war” and the worst of the European gas and power crisis has passed, according to Pierre Andurand, one of the world’s top-performing traders in the sector.

Andurand, whose energy focused hedge funds have enjoyed three bumper years of returns during the coronavirus pandemic, said he had closed out all his positions in natural gas markets because last year’s price surge to record levels was unlikely to be repeated, with Europe learning rapidly to live without Russian gas.

Deep cuts to Russian gas exports in retaliation for western support for Ukraine drove the European benchmark price above €300 a megawatt hour in August, more than 10 times its normal level. But in recent months it has tumbled back to about €50/MWh — still historically high but far more manageable for European economies mired in a cost of living crisis.

“I think Putin lost the energy war,” Andurand said in an interview with the Financial Times. “Very high natural gas and power prices in Europe were extremely bad for the world economy but now they have come back to a more reasonable level. If gas prices stay here there will be much less worry about inflation and interest rates rises. There’s no more fear of an energy crisis.

“Now that Europe is getting used to living without Russian gas why would they ever go back?” he added.

If correct, the French kick-boxing enthusiast’s call spells the end of one of the most lucrative hedge fund trades of recent years. Some managers made significant profits from rocketing European gas prices after Russia began squeezing supplies to Europe in 2021 before slashing exports after its full-scale invasion of Ukraine last February.

Andurand, whose firm Andurand Capital manages $1.4bn in assets, saw his Commodities Discretionary Enhanced fund gain some 650 per cent from the start of 2020 until the end of last year. The former Goldman Sachs and Vitol energy trader made his name by calling many of the big moves in oil and other energy commodities over the past two decades, including oil prices turning negative during the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic.

Andurand, whose fund is down 3 per cent so far in 2023, said Putin had erred in cutting gas exports to Europe last year, as although he succeeded in driving prices higher temporarily he had underestimated buyers’ ability to adapt.

“I think it was a massive miscalculation over who had the leverage by Putin
, in the same way he miscalculated how Ukraine would fight back and the west would be united,” Andurand said.

“Russia has lost its biggest customer forever, and it will take at least a decade to bring enough pipelines [to redirect those gas sales] to Asia. Once Russia can only sell gas to China, Beijing will be in a position to decide the price.”

While Andurand argued the gas and power crisis was coming to an end, he still said there was the potential for big moves in the commodity for which he is best known. Oil prices, he said, had fallen too far in recent months and were set to rally as China’s economic rebound from the end of its zero-Covid policies accelerates.

Oil could hit $140 a barrel later in 2023, Andurand said, arguing that the market is taking too short-term a view, both because of losses suffered last year and also due to the growing dominance of multi-manager and quant hedge funds in it.

“The reopening of China is going to lead to a lot more oil demand growth than expected,” Andurand said, adding he had scaled back oil positions in the second half of last year as prices fell, but had upped his bets in mid-December.

“It might take a couple of months for the market to recognise the scale of the demand increase we’re seeing,” he added, arguing that Chinese-led global consumption could rise by as much as 4mn barrels a day this year compared with just over 1mn b/d average annual growth normally.

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 3:51 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:

Russia State TV Says Eliminating U.S. Military Is Ultimate Goal




Did they say when they were going to get started? They better start now because Ukraine has already destroyed at Leat half the Russian army. Another month or two and they won't have an army to fight with.

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 4:38 AM (P)

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Whitney: Stuff You Should Know About Ukraine
Saturday, Feb 11, 2023 - 04:00 AM

Authored by Mike Whitney,

On February 16, 2022, a full week before Putin sent combat troops into Ukraine, the Ukrainian Army began the heavy bombardment of the area (in east Ukraine) occupied by mainly ethnic Russians.

Officials from the Observer Mission of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) were located in the vicinity at the time and kept a record of the shelling as it took place. What the OSCE discovered was that the bombardment dramatically intensified as the week went on until it reached a peak on February 19, when a total of 2,026 artillery strikes were recorded.



That's over 2000 artillery strikes in one day. On a civilian atea.

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Keep in mind, the Ukrainian Army was, in fact, shelling civilian areas along the Line of Contact that were occupied by other Ukrainians.

We want to emphasize that the officials from the OSCE were operating in their professional capacity gathering first-hand evidence of shelling in the area. What their data shows is that Ukrainian Forces were bombing and killing their own people. This has all been documented and has not been challenged.

So, the question we must all ask ourselves is this: Is the bombardment and slaughter of one’s own people an ‘act of war’?

We think it is. And if we are right, then we must logically assume that the war began before the Russian invasion (which was launched a full week later) We must also assume that Russia’s alleged “unprovoked aggression” was not unprovoked at all but was the appropriate humanitarian response to the deliberate killing of civilians. In order to argue that the Russian invasion was ‘not provoked’, we would have to say that firing over 4,000 artillery shells into towns and neighborhoods where women and children live, is not a provocation? Who will defend that point of view?


THUGR. SECOND. K2PO.

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No one, because it’s absurd.
clear that THUR, SECOND, and K2PO are mental, emotional, and moral nobodies
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The killing of civilians in the Donbas was a clear provocation, a provocation that was aimed at goading Russia into a war. And –as we said earlier– the OSCE had monitors on the ground who provided full documentation of the shelling as it took place, which is as close to ironclad, eyewitness testimony as you’re going to get.

... it might not surprise you that most of the mainstream media completely omitted any coverage of the OSCE’s fact-finding activities in east Ukraine.

... The point we are trying to make is simple: The war in Ukraine was not launched by a tyrannical Russian leader (Putin) bent on rebuilding the Soviet Empire. ... In one [western] case, the storyline rests on speculation, conjecture and psychobabble; while in the other, the storyline is linked to actual events that took place on the ground and were catalogued by trained professionals in the field. In which version of events do you have more confidence?

THUGR, SECOND, and K2PO believe psychobabble and disinfo.


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And here’s something else that is typically excluded in the media’s selective coverage. Before Putin sent his tanks across the border into Ukraine, he invoked United Nations Article 51 which provides a legal justification for military intervention. Of course, the United States has done this numerous times to provide a fig leaf of legitimacy to its numerous military interventions. But, in this case, you can see where the so-called Responsibility To Protect (R2P) could actually be justified, after all, by most estimates, the Ukrainian army has killed over 14,000 ethnic Russians since the US-backed coup 8 years ago. If ever there was a situation in which a defensive military operation could be justified, this was it. But that still doesn’t fully explain why Putin invoked UN Article 51. For that, we turn to former weapons inspector Scott Ritter, who explained it like th

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 4:46 AM (P)

Comrade signym conveniently forgets Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Not in Feb. 2022. Too funny...

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:13 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More at http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2023/februa
ry/08/setting-the-record-straight-stuff-you-should-know-about-ukraine
/

"Bottom line: Russia did not start the war in Ukraine. That is a fake narrative. The responsibility lies with the Ukrainian Army and their leaders in Kiev." -- The Ron Paul Institute at the URL Signym extracted numerous quotes.

The bottom line is pants-on-fire false, Signym. And I know who Ron Paul is. The bottom line on him and his son, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, is too ugly to print.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:16 AM (P)

You people are sad.

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:15 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More at http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2023/februa
ry/08/setting-the-record-straight-stuff-you-should-know-about-ukraine
/

"Bottom line: Russia did not start the war in Ukraine. That is a fake narrative. The responsibility lies with the Ukrainian Army and their leaders in Kiev." -- The Ron Paul Institute at the URL Signym extracted numerous quotes.

The bottom line is pants-on-fire false, Signym. And I know who Ron Paul is. The bottom line on him and his son, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, is too ugly to print.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

.
WHAT is "too ugly to print", SECOND?

How about backing up your insinuations with some good old-fashioned libel?
Enquiring minds want to know!


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Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:37 AM (P)

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Russia State TV Says Eliminating U.S. Military Is Ultimate Goal



Did they say when they were going to get started? They better start now because Ukraine has already destroyed at Leat half the Russian army. Another month or two and they won't have an army to fight with.

T

So, can we hold you to your prediction, THUGR? And what will you do when it doesn't come true? /snicker


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Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:40 AM (P)

2 months, huh?

Tick Tock then, I guess!



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Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:22 PM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

WHAT is "too ugly to print", SECOND?

How about backing up your insinuations with some good old-fashioned libel?
Inquiring minds want to know!

Ron Paul is a lying old man, not worth dissecting to reveal his lies. He has been working the political scene in Texas for decades. His smoother son has been lying, and getting elected to the US Senate in Kentucky. More interesting is why people in Texas and Kentucky (and in Russia) listen to and believe these kinds of people. Entire books and movies have been written about the fundamental weakness people have in believing falsehoods and allowing talented liars to take advantage of that weakness.

“The truth is not a requirement for what people believe. What people believe is what they want to believe, what they need to believe, what doesn't conflict with their more necessary load-bearing beliefs. Ultimately, what everybody around them believes.” - Aja Raden, Nothing Lasts Forever [2022] and the author of The Truth About Lies: The Illusion of Honesty and the Evolution of Deceit (2021). The 2022 movie on diamond rings/the De Beers Diamond Cartel is entertaining and so is the 2021 book about swindles and frauds.

Here is a particular story about a certain city and an old system of brand-new lies that are believed by Russians to be the truth:

Ukraine war: Belgorod locals live in fear but won't blame Putin

by Steve Rosenberg, BBC News, Belgorod

The sounds of war are becoming routine at this market a few miles inside Russia's border with Ukraine. I hear explosions in the distance. But no-one flinches.

Just meters away other stalls have been reduced to twisted metal. They were hit by a mortar a few days before.

At the time the market was shut, so no-one was hurt. But many stalls remain closed and there's only a handful of customers. Sandbags are stacked up outside some of the buildings.

In many parts of Russia this feels like a virtual war: a conflict being played out on television, far from home. But in Russia's Belgorod region war feels very real and very close.

Raisa Alexandrovna, who sells sweets here, has lost her sense of security.

"No-one's protecting us," Raisa tells me. "When people go home at night, they don't know if they'll still be in one piece in the morning."

Everyone I speak to at the market tells me they live in fear of Ukrainian shelling. But they omit to mention that it was their country that invaded Ukraine.

A number of stalls at the market have been hit by mortars

They confirm that, one year, ago, life here was quiet and peaceful. Yet, they decline to join the dots and blame the Kremlin for what has transpired.

"We had to start this military operation," Raisa insists. "It's the right thing. We just should have been better prepared for it. We should have drafted people into the army right away. So many of our young men are dying. There'll be no one left for our women to marry."

"But what about the Ukrainians who've been killed because of Russia's invasion?" I ask.

"Yes, people on both sides have been killed," replies Raisa. "But the minds of Ukrainians have been altered. A new generation has grown up there hating Russians. We need to re-educate them. Re-make them."

In the city of Belgorod, the regional capital, a giant letter 'Z' - the symbol of Russia's military operation - has been erected along a busy highway. In recent months there have been explosions, too, in Belgorod, including at the airport, an oil depot and an apparent strike on a power plant. Suddenly residents are having to think about where to take cover. Shelters have been opened in cellars and in basements of apartment blocks.

Belgorod is full of billboards and slogans supporting Russian soldiers

Conversations here r

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:54 PM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

WHAT is "too ugly to print", SECOND?

How about backing up your insinuations with some good old-fashioned libel?
Inquiring minds want to know!

Ron Paul is a lying old man, not worth dissecting to reveal his lies. He has been working the political scene in Texas for decades. His smoother son has been lying, and getting elected to the US Senate in Kentucky. More interesting is why people in Texas and Kentucky (and in Russia) listen to and believe these kinds of people. Entire books and movies have been written about the fundamental weakness people have in believing falsehoods and allowing talented liars to take advantage of that weakness.

“The truth is not a requirement for what people believe. What people believe is what they want to believe, what they need to believe, what doesn't conflict with their more necessary load-bearing beliefs.



Yup. That's Second in a nutshell.

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 8:07 PM (P)

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Yup. That's Second in a nutshell.

In a nutshell: If your beliefs are true, you prosper. If your beliefs are false, you don’t. That includes not just you but entire families and entire nations. The Russians have many false beliefs and the Russians haven’t prospered. The Russians believe they have the greatest Army in the world, but that Army would have already won in Ukraine if that belief was true. The Russians still can win if their Army becomes truer to the Russians’ exaggerated beliefs about their Army. The Russian economy does not prosper. It is smaller than Canada's economy and Russians live in poverty compared to Canadians. If the world’s economy worked the way Russians incorrectly believe it works, Canadians would be far poorer than Russians because Canada is right next to the US, supposedly the main cause of all Russian problems.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:12 PM (P)

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Yup. That's Second in a nutshell.

In a nutshell: If your beliefs are true, you prosper.



That mean's they're true.

Thanks for confirming this.

Have fun at work tomorrow, honey. I'll let you know how my nap went.



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Sunday, February 12, 2023 11:15 PM (P)

"SECOND in a nutshell".
Well, that's where nuts are, innit?

*****
SECOND, yep, you resorted to good old-fashioned libel.

Since you lie about so many things why should I believe you about your "wealth"?
I think you're just some feckless twat posting from a psych ward.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 1:32 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"SECOND in a nutshell".
Well, that's where nuts are, innit?

*****
SECOND, yep, you resorted to good old-fashioned libel.

Since you lie about so many things why should I believe you about your "wealth"?
I think you're just some feckless twat posting from a psych ward.

If there is truth to the Russians' complaints about the US, then Canadians should be living in poverty compared to Russians. Are Canadians impoverished compared to Russians, Signym?

If there is truth in the Russians bragging about their Army, Russia would have already won in Ukraine. Has Russia won, Signym? Or does Russia need 6ix more months and then it will have won?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, February 13, 2023 1:39 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"SECOND in a nutshell".
Well, that's where nuts are, innit?



Only if you don't look in his drawers. You won't find any there.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 1:45 AM (P)

Signy, your whole schtick is that we're being lied to about Russia and Ukraine. If this is true, why do you keep making your point by sharing articles that are full of lies themselves?

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What the OSCE discovered was that the bombardment dramatically intensified as the week went on until it reached a peak on February 19, when a total of 2,026 artillery strikes were recorded.

Sig: That's over 2000 artillery strikes in one day. On a civilian atea.


That's a complete misrepresentation of the OSCE report. I'll point out why, but I encourage everyone to see for themselves how Signy is lying. If anyone has any questions about making sense of the report, I'll gladly help explain (I've read a few of these): https://www.osce.org/files/2022-02-20-21%20Daily%20Report_ENG.pdf?itok
=82567


What the OSCE report actually says about the 2026 "artillery strikes":

1. Were not in a single day, but over a 48hr period (18th-20th)
2. Were not "artillery strikes" but "explosions" (including mortars, etc.)
Were described as both incoming and outgoing - and most of those identified were fired by the separatists
3. Hardly any of them were recorded in civilian areas, on either side
4. There were no recorded civilian casualties

A spike in hostilities, yes, but by both sides in their trenches firing at each other. With many more reported breaches by the pro-Russians, according to this report.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 1:56 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"SECOND in a nutshell".
Well, that's where nuts are, innit?

*****
SECOND, yep, you resorted to good old-fashioned libel.

Since you lie about so many things why should I believe you about your "wealth"?
I think you're just some feckless twat posting from a psych ward.

If there is truth to the Russians' complaints about the US, then Canadians should be living in poverty compared to Russians. Are Canadians impoverished compared to Russians, Signym?

You don't seriously expect us to believe that Russia has the same relationship with the USA as Canada?
Do you?
Really???

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If there is truth in the Russians bragging about their Army, Russia would have already won in Ukraine. Has Russia won, Signym? Or does Russia need 6ix more months and then it will have won?
You, like a lot of westerners, are mesmerized by the German blitzkrieg. But that's not the war that Russia is fighting. It's only been mentioned a few dozen times so I'll leave you ro puzzle it out for yourself. (If you can)

And don't forget: Germany lost, and lost to Russia.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 2:38 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You don't seriously expect us to believe that Russia has the same relationship with the USA as Canada?
Do you?
Really???

You, like a lot of westerners, are mesmerized by the German blitzkrieg. But that's not the war that Russia is fighting. It's only been mentioned a few dozen times so I'll leave you ro puzzle it out for yourself. (If you can)

And don't forget: Germany lost, and lost to Russia.

The difference between Canada and Russia? Russia has threatened to destroy the US about 42 times in the last 42 days. Canada has never made that threat. That could be why Canada is prosperous and Russia is not.

The last time that Russians invaded Europe at an excruciatingly slow pace, as it is once again doing in Ukraine, 27,000,000 Russians died. Does Russia want more citizens to die now than in WWII? Then Russians should keep fighting the way they have in Ukraine. Or Russia can bring out the nukes and kill 146,420,000 Russians on the same day.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 13, 2023 6:03 AM (P)

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You don't seriously expect us to believe that Russia has the same relationship with the USA as Canada?
Do you?
Really???

You, like a lot of westerners, are mesmerized by the German blitzkrieg. But that's not the war that Russia is fighting. It's only been mentioned a few dozen times so I'll leave you ro puzzle it out for yourself. (If you can)

And don't forget: Germany lost, and lost to Russia.

The difference between Canada and Russia? Russia has threatened to destroy the US about 42 times in the last 42 days. Canada has never made that threat. That could be why Canada is prosperous and Russia is not.

The last time that Russians invaded Europe at an excruciatingly slow pace, as it is once again doing in Ukraine, 27,000,000 Russians died. Does Russia want more citizens to die now than in WWII? Then Russians should keep fighting the way they have in Ukraine. Or Russia can bring out the nukes and kill 146,420,000 Russians on the same day.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The difference between Canada and Russia?
The USA hasn't been actively trying to destroy Canada since 1917

Get your head out of your ass, SECOND. You live in a world of shit. If you can't do it on your own, get one of the orderlies to bring some Vaseline and a crowbar.




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Monday, February 13, 2023 6:28 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The difference between Canada and Russia?
The USA hasn't been actively trying to destroy Canada since 1917

Get your head out of your ass, SECOND. You live in a world of shit. If you can't do it on your own, get one of the orderlies to bring some Vaseline and a crowbar.

North Korea exists because Russia set it into motion for magnanimous reasons, while South Korea exists only because the UN and the US are evil manipulators. That is the way North Korea describes the US. North Korea's economy ought to be prospering compared to South Korea because South Korea has been insanely hostile toward North Korea since 1950. And South Korea has been subservient to the US while North Korea is free from the US. But when I check the economic statistics, North Korea is extraordinarily impoverished compared to South Korea. That doesn't make sense since North Korea is such a powerful yet peaceful country, exactly like Russia, going about its own business and protected by its nuclear weapons from the warmongers in South Korea who have no A-bombs and no H-bombs, unlike North Korea. The statistics must be fake news if the numbers show that South Korea is many times more prosperous than North Korea.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 7:16 AM (P)

You don't know shit, Second.

You should stop talking before I wreck you again.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 7:43 AM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You don't know shit, Second.

You should stop talking before I wreck you again.

6ix, if you are right, then pretty soon the average North Korean will be more prosperous than an average South Korean because North Korea despises South Korea and could nuke that country off the face of the Earth. And if you are right, average Russians will soon be more prosperous than average Canadians because Canada is a teeny-tiny lap dog, a servile pet, of the US while Russia is as strong and free as a Giant Siberian Timber Wolf that eats lap dogs in one bite. The Wolf will gobble up Ukraine in one bite, too!

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Monday, February 13, 2023 7:46 AM (P)

I didn't say shit about North Korea.

I'm just talking about the 100,000 words you plagiarized off of idiots and pasted into this thread since its inception.



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Monday, February 13, 2023 7:59 AM (P)

Oh... and P.S.....

If Biden* and the Democrats hadn't given child rapist Zelensky over $100 Billion last year and he wasn't getting tanks and weapons from the US and a myriad of other NATO nations, then yeah...

Ukraine wouldn't even exist anymore right now.

I can't wait for that to happen. And it will happen.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 4:42 PM (P)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and P.S.....

If Biden* and the Democrats hadn't given child rapist Zelensky over $100 Billion last year and he wasn't getting tanks and weapons from the US and a myriad of other NATO nations, then yeah...

Ukraine wouldn't even exist anymore right now.

I can't wait for that to happen. And it will happen.

6ix, spending money because of Russia is a US tradition.

The US spent $5.8 trillion on nuclear weapons by 1996. That wasn't because France or the UK had H-bombs. It was because of Russia.
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/costs-us-nuclear-weapons/

And the US will spend $634 billion on nuclear weapons over the 2021–2030 period because of . . . Russia.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57240

6ix, are you seeing the pattern? That the US spends money because of Russia? If Russia was run by sensible people who didn't say on a daily basis that they were going to nuke the US, the US wouldn't be spending all this money.

Funny thing is that North Korea, which only exists because Russia set it up, is also swearing it, too, will nuke the US and/or South Korea. The US has gotten into another habit of spending to protect South Korea from the Russian-inspired Kim Family in North Korea.

The average Russian or North Korean could become as rich as the average Canadian, but only if Russia or North Korea stopped squandering lives and money on H-bombs. Canada never built any H-bombs, which is a very sensible way for Canada to go about its business. Russia and North Korea should copy that behavior and grow rich. But those two will probably stay stupid, build H-bombs, and remain poor.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 4:45 PM (P)

lol

Canada is the largest net benefactor of US military spending. The second largest is Mexico.

Maybe you need to check out a map.



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Monday, February 13, 2023 5:33 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Canada is the largest net benefactor of US military spending. The second largest is Mexico.

Maybe you need to check out a map.

The only country that ever invaded Canada was . . . the US. Which country invaded Mexico? The US, again. I am not as sure as you are that increasing US defense spending is a benefit that causes decreasing Canadian and Mexican defense spending. I am certain that the US spent many trillions on nukes because Russia keeps threatening to nuke the US. If Russia does conquer Ukraine, Russia won't be more peaceful. It will be MORE belligerent toward the US and probably switch from threatening to nuke the US only once per day to threatening in the morning, at noon, and in the evening to nuke the US.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 6:45 PM (P)

Top Russian Diplomat Erupts over Nation's Lack of Allies

Russia's Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Maria Zakharova, has said in a fiery exchange that "It was a big mistake on the part of our elites to believe that foreign countries will help us," she added. "Russia has only two allies: its army and its navy."

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-diplomat-maria-zakharova-moscow-lack-a
llies-1780739


Why do North Korea and China not send troops to help Russia? What is wrong with those people? Why are they not helping Russia in the glorious battle against the Nazis? (Hint: Russia is not fighting the Nazis. That is why. Even North Koreans can see that Russian propaganda about the Nazis is nonsense and stupid. If Russia thinks it is fighting the Nazis, crazy Russia gets to fight alone against its hallucinations.)

As of 2021 North Korea is the second largest military organization in the world, with 29.9% of the North Korean population actively serving, in reserve or in a paramilitary capacity. How many North Koreans are fighting on Russia's side in Ukraine? Zero. If Kim has any sense of self-preservation, that number will stay at zero.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 8:38 PM (P)

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Originally posted by K2PO:
Signy, your whole schtick is that we're being lied to about Russia and Ukraine. If this is true, why do you keep making your point by sharing articles that are full of lies themselves?

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What the OSCE discovered was that the bombardment dramatically intensified as the week went on until it reached a peak on February 19, when a total of 2,026 artillery strikes were recorded.

Sig: That's over 2000 artillery strikes in one day. On a civilian atea.


That's a complete misrepresentation of the OSCE report. I'll point out why, but I encourage everyone to see for themselves how Signy is lying. If anyone has any questions about making sense of the report, I'll gladly help explain (I've read a few of these): https://www.osce.org/files/2022-02-20-21%20Daily%20Report_ENG.pdf?itok
=82567


What the OSCE report actually says about the 2026 "artillery strikes":

1. Were not in a single day, but over a 48hr period (18th-20th)
2. Were not "artillery strikes" but "explosions" (including mortars, etc.)
Were described as both incoming and outgoing - and most of those identified were fired by the separatists
3. Hardly any of them were recorded in civilian areas, on either side
4. There were no recorded civilian casualties

A spike in hostilities, yes, but by both sides in their trenches firing at each other. With many more reported breaches by the pro-Russians, according to this report.


Had enough time to feel guilt/remorse/embarrassment about this propagation of falsehoods yet, Signy?

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Monday, February 13, 2023 10:38 PM (P)

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Had enough time to feel guilt/remorse/embarrassment about this propagation of falsehoods yet, Signy?

News Flash: The number of North Koreans in Ukraine may soon be as many as 500.

North Korea’s government recently ordered North Korean trading companies in Russia to select personnel to send to Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine so they can take part in reconstruction efforts, South Korean newspaper Daily NK reported.

According to Daily NK’s sources, the relevant order, among others, was issued to the companies Cholhyon Construction and Kumrung Construction, associated with the Ministry of Defense of North Korea.

Given that all these companies are affiliated with military or security agencies, it is presumed that North Korea intends to send soldiers or police personnel, as opposed to civilians, to eastern Ukraine.

The trading companies have orders to select young men between the ages of 19 and 27. Most are married and would leave their families behind in North Korea. This is reportedly done to dissuade defection attempts.

The first group of North Korean citizens, upwards of 500 people, are expected to arrive in the occupied regions of Ukraine by mid-February or March.

The orders do not specify exactly what tasks will be assigned to these North Koreans in Ukraine, but they are unlikely to be involved in combat operations, the newspaper reports. Otherwise, the participation of the North Korean citizens in the conflict could make it appear as if Pyongyang has sent mercenaries to Russia.

The personnel will likely take part in reconstruction efforts, such as renovating buildings and repairing roads in the war zone.

Since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, North Korea has consistently supported Moscow’s position. Pyongyang voted against resolutions condemning Russia at the UN and was also the only one in the world to officially support the results of the sham “referendums” in the occupied Ukrainian territories.

At the end of January, Kim Yo-jong, the sister of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, made a statement that North Korea “will always be in the same trench with the army and people of Russia.”

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/11800

In other news, all North Koreans with the name "Ju-ae" will have to change their name because Kim does not want anyone to have the same name as his ten-year-old daughter. North Korea is such a sane country, much like Russia.

This practice dates back to the era of the regime’s founder Kim Il-sung, when people were banned from having the same name. Additionally, during the time of Kim Jong-il’s rule, those with the same name were also forced to change it. After the current leader, Kim Jong-un, came to power, the state forced people named Jong-un and Sol-ju, the name of his wife, to also change their names.

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/east-asia/article/3209935/north-korea-f
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Monday, February 13, 2023 11:04 PM (P)

“Russia today poses the biggest threat to Norwegian and European security, and the confrontation with the West will be long-lasting,” said Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram.

The deputy head of the foreign Norwegian Intelligence Service Lars Nordrum said that Norway’s oil and gas installations could be targeted by Russian sabotage. NSM head Sofie Nystrøm warned that “all of Europe will suffer” if Norwegian gas and oil installations were hit.

“Norway is now Europe’s most important energy supplier after Russia ended its gas exports to the West," said Nordrum. But PST assessed that it's unlikely Russia would carry out any sabotage operation on Norwegian soil this year.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/norway-russia-threat-eu
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Monday, February 13, 2023 11:53 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Canada is the largest net benefactor of US military spending. The second largest is Mexico.

Maybe you need to check out a map.

The only country that ever invaded Canada was . . . the US. Which country invaded Mexico? The US, again. I am not as sure as you are that increasing US defense spending is a benefit that causes decreasing Canadian and Mexican defense spending. I am certain that the US spent many trillions on nukes because Russia keeps threatening to nuke the US. If Russia does conquer Ukraine, Russia won't be more peaceful. It will be MORE belligerent toward the US and probably switch from threatening to nuke the US only once per day to threatening in the morning, at noon, and in the evening to nuke the US.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Red herring alert!

Comparing our policy towards Canada to our policy towards Russia.
Even THUGR knows they're not the same, either in broad scope or detail.

Idiot.

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Monday, February 13, 2023 11:57 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
“Russia today poses the biggest threat to Norwegian and European security, and the confrontation with the West will be long-lasting,” said Norwegian Defense Minister Bjørn Arild Gram.

The deputy head of the foreign Norwegian Intelligence Service Lars Nordrum said that Norway’s oil and gas installations could be targeted by Russian sabotage. NSM head Sofie Nystrøm warned that “all of Europe will suffer” if Norwegian gas and oil installations were hit.

“Norway is now Europe’s most important energy supplier after Russia ended its gas exports to the West," said Nordrum. But PST assessed that it's unlikely Russia would carry out any sabotage operation on Norwegian soil this year.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/norway-russia-threat-eu
rope-97077078


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Maybe if Norway hadn't helped blow up 3 of 4 Nordstream pipelines, they wouldn't be eperiencing a well-earned butt-puckering moment.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 12:33 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Maybe if Norway hadn't helped blow up 3 of 4 Nordstream pipelines, they wouldn't be eperiencing a well-earned butt-puckering moment.

I don't want to nitpick as a lawyer would, but you need a source for your accusation. When I look I see: Russia, without providing evidence, has repeatedly said the West was behind the blasts affecting the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines last September - multibillion-dollar infrastructure projects that carried Russian gas to Germany. Reuters was unable to corroborate the allegations.

FYI, Both Russia and North Korea would not be relatively impoverished nations if the rest of the world could trust that those two would not go on ordinary murder rampages nor would they destroy other nations in nuclear attacks.

Also, Signym, France has H-bombs, using the same physics as Russia's and North Korea's, but few think the French will destroy the world because the French don't keep threatening to do so, unlike Russia and North Korea. That is the major reason why France is not impoverished as Russia and North Korea are.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 1:06 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Canada is the largest net benefactor of US military spending. The second largest is Mexico.

Maybe you need to check out a map.

The only country that ever invaded Canada was . . . the US. Which country invaded Mexico? The US, again. I am not as sure as you are that increasing US defense spending is a benefit that causes decreasing Canadian and Mexican defense spending. I am certain that the US spent many trillions on nukes because Russia keeps threatening to nuke the US. If Russia does conquer Ukraine, Russia won't be more peaceful. It will be MORE belligerent toward the US and probably switch from threatening to nuke the US only once per day to threatening in the morning, at noon, and in the evening to nuke the US.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Red herring alert!

Comparing our policy towards Canada to our policy towards Russia.
Even THUGR knows they're not the same, either in broad scope or detail.

Idiot.

I have been thinking about this for an hour. Signym, there has to be an explanation for why you responded this way. Let me suggest how different Canada is from Russia.

When was the last time Canada threatened to nuke anybody off the face of the Earth? And Signym, don't say Canada couldn't, because if Canada wanted to make such threats, it could secretly build what it needs to make the threat real.

On the other side of the world, Russia has been threatening, invading, and conquering countries for hundreds of years. This behavior has not made Russia wealthy compared to Canada.

When will average Russians ever stop and think carefully about what they are doing? They have had centuries to figure this out, but they haven't done the thinking except for a few famous exceptions like Andrei Sakharov.

Andrei D. Sakharov
https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/profile/andrei-d-sakharov/

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 1:07 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Maybe if Norway hadn't helped blow up 3 of 4 Nordstream pipelines, they wouldn't be eperiencing a well-earned butt-puckering moment.

I don't want to nitpick as a lawyer would, but you need a source for your accusation... Blah blah blah...Russia blah blah blah....



This is why I think you're posting from a psych ward.

You posted Sy Hersch's article IN FULL on this very topic, as a copyright challenge.

Why should I take your posts seriously when it's clear that even YOU don't?



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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 2:25 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Maybe if Norway hadn't helped blow up 3 of 4 Nordstream pipelines, they wouldn't be eperiencing a well-earned butt-puckering moment.

I don't want to nitpick as a lawyer would, but you need a source for your accusation... Blah blah blah...Russia blah blah blah....



This is why I think you're posting from a psych ward.

You posted Sy Hersch's article IN FULL on this very topic, as a copyright challenge.

Why should I take your posts seriously when it's clear that even YOU don't?

You are referring to http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11692
91#1169291


Russia and North Korea continuously and angrily wonder why they get relatively poorer compared to Canada and South Korea, which never threaten to use nukes, but steadily grow richer.

Russia owned those pipelines and it is positively good that Russian property is being destroyed for once rather than Russia getting a free pass to destroy anything in Ukraine while, at the very same time, the destruction of anything inside Russia is yet another excuse for Russia to threaten to nuke the world, a threat that Russia has made thousands of times since it built its first A-bomb.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 3:16 AM (P)

Russia doesn't threaten to use nukes. It reiterates it's self defense posture, which is that if it is attacked on its own soil and it's existence is threatened it may use nukes. That has been it's nuclear weapons policy for a long time.

The USA OTIH constantly threatens first strike and/or use of tactical nukes, and has backed that up by withdrawing from a whole series of nuclear weapons treaties and placing missile launchers in Poland.

So pry your head out if your ass, SECOND, and stop lying to yourself and everyone else.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 3:48 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia doesn't threaten to use nukes. It reiterates it's self defense posture, which is that if it is attacked on its own soil and it's existence is threatened it may use nukes. That has been it's nuclear weapons policy for a long time.

The USA OTIH constantly threatens first strike and/or use of tactical nukes, and has backed that up by withdrawing from a whole series of nuclear weapons treaties and placing missile launchers in Poland.

So pry your head out if your ass, SECOND, and stop lying to yourself and everyone else.

You are in error, Signym. From today:

A Russian TV host and close ally of Vladimir Putin has issued yet another threat against the UK for its support of Ukraine.

Can't we finally strike at London? What is the problem?

He added:

No, no, no—only at military targets. Well, at the parliament, too.

Solovyov then referred to the Kremlin’s widely dismissed claims that the West's support of Ukraine is encouraging neo-Nazism and Russophobia:

In this case we will not recognize at all—for us then there is no England at all. No France. No Germany. Instead, there are Nazi states united by hatred for everything Russian,

And so let's get serious. Do they think there are no red lines? OK. Well, let's show them that there are no more red lines. Let's strike! So that the fist would ring.

He went on to describe French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak as 'Nazi b*****ds'.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-ally-issues-terrif
ying-threat-on-russian-tv-can-t-we-finally-strike-london/ar-AA17qP9q


The Russian fallback position would be that since London has not been nuked there was no real threat to nuke London. It is all a big joke. We're not serious. It is just talk-talk-talk. "You can not seriously believe Russia would nuke London until you see the mushroom cloud, can you?" Russians might say. No threat. No threat. Never mind what got said.

Sorry to let you know this, Signym, but that was another threat by Russia to nuke the world.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 7:24 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia doesn't threaten to use nukes. It reiterates it's self defense posture, which is that if it is attacked on its own soil and it's existence is threatened it may use nukes. That has been it's nuclear weapons policy for a long time.

The USA OTIH constantly threatens first strike and/or use of tactical nukes, and has backed that up by withdrawing from a whole series of nuclear weapons treaties and placing missile launchers in Poland.

So pry your head out if your ass, SECOND, and stop lying to yourself and everyone else.

You are in error, Signym. From today:

A Russian TV host and close ally of Vladimir Putin has issued yet another threat against the UK for its support of Ukraine.

Can't we finally strike at London? What is the problem?

He added:

No, no, no—only at military targets. Well, at the parliament, too.

Solovyov then referred to the Kremlin’s widely dismissed claims that the West's support of Ukraine is encouraging neo-Nazism and Russophobia:

In this case we will not recognize at all—for us then there is no England at all. No France. No Germany. Instead, there are Nazi states united by hatred for everything Russian,

And so let's get serious. Do they think there are no red lines? OK. Well, let's show them that there are no more red lines. Let's strike! So that the fist would ring.

He went on to describe French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, and British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak as 'Nazi b*****ds'.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putin-ally-issues-terrif
ying-threat-on-russian-tv-can-t-we-finally-strike-london/ar-AA17qP9q


The Russian fallback position would be that since London has not been nuked there was no real threat to nuke London. It is all a big joke. We're not serious. It is just talk-talk-talk. "You can not seriously believe Russia would nuke London until you see the mushroom cloud, can you?" Russians might say. No threat. No threat. Never mind what got said.

Sorry to let you know this, Signym, but that was another threat by Russia to nuke the world.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Jeezus, SECOND, you're a twisted fuck.

a) It was a TV HOST. Not Putin, not Shoigu, not anyone in their Security Council. A TV HOST. One is not like the others.

b) Did he say NUCLEAR strike? No, he did not. Aiming at "Parliament" with a nuclear warhead is a little like shooting a mosquito with an elephant gun. Can you say "overkill"? Sure you can!

But I can assure you, a visit from Mr Kinzhal or Mr Zircon would surely ruin Parliament's day.

Fuck you, maroon. And that's an insult to maroons everywhere.


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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 8:01 AM (P)

Quote:

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Jeezus, SECOND, you're a twisted fuck.

a) It was a TV HOST. Not Putin, not Shoigu, not anyone in their Security Council. A TV HOST. One is not like the others.

b) Did he say NUCLEAR strike? No, he did not. Aiming at "Parliament" with a nuclear warhead is a little like shooting a mosquito with an elephant gun. Can you say "overkill"? Sure you can!

But I can assure you, a visit from Mr Kinzhal or Mr Zircon would surely ruin Parliament's day.

Fuck you, maroon. And that's an insult to maroons everywhere.

Ordinary people take these death threats emanating from Russia seriously:

When asked in what scenario Russia would use nuclear weapons, Putin appeared to feign offense at the question, and said: "If someone decides to destroy Russia, then we have a legal right to respond. Yes, for humanity it will be a global catastrophe, for the world it will be a global catastrophe."

Putin added: "But still, as a citizen of Russia and the head of the Russian state, then I want to ask myself the question: 'Why do we need such a world if there is no Russia there?'"

Signym, Putin issued a death threat. He says he has a legal right. "If someone decides to destroy Russia" is the trigger and the words "If someone decides . . ." might be as minor as an attack on Crimea. But Putin doesn't actually need a reason. He can end the world just for the hell of it.

Putin's stupid mouth said the words. This is exactly the kind of fast and loose thinking that has impoverished both Russia and North Korea. Both countries ought to stop issuing death threats and, instead, in the case of North Korea, start emulating South Korea if North Korea wishes to prosper. Russia could emulate Canada if Russia wishes to prosper. If Russia and North Korea won't stop making threats and building more nukes, they will ruin themselves.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-said-2018-would-use-nuclear-weap
ons-if-russia-attacked-2022-4


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 8:30 AM (P)

Meanwhile, let's not forget that we blew up the energy supply of a supposed democratic ally.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 2:25 PM (P)

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Meanwhile, let's not forget that we blew up the energy supply of a supposed democratic ally.

Let's not forget that it was "Anonymous" who gave the tip to the writer, who then elaborated a few thousand more words on the tip. For all we know, "Anonymous" is a fictional creation by the writer of the article. Let's also not forget this article:

Kremlin 'Crazy' Enough To Use Nukes, Russian TV Pundits Warn
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-crazy-enough-nuclear-weapons-state-tel
evision-1780790

"We need to win, that is all. We have to achieve this with the means that we have. I would remind you that a nuclear weapon is not just a bomb, it is the heritage of the whole Russian people." Definitely crazy talk.

The doctrine of mutually assured destruction (M.A.D.) assumes both sides are sane, but one side can get a cheap psychological advantage over the other by hinting that they are crazy. For example, North Korea has been hinting for years that Kim is crazy enough to use nukes whenever he feels an urge in his loins. It doesn't take much effort to feign craziness but that will make the never-ending parade of newly elected South Korean leaders insomniatic, nervous, and anxious, which is the whole point of what Kim is doing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 5:36 PM (P)

Oh, so NOW you remember your extended quote on the topic?
You're a brainless twat posting from a psych ward.

Unlike NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN and other liars that you splatter the board with so liberally, Seymour Hirsch's articles in the end are proven right.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 7:57 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, so NOW you remember your extended quote on the topic?
You're a brainless twat posting from a psych ward.

Unlike NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN and other liars that you splatter the board with so liberally, Seymour Hirsch's articles in the end are proven right.

Seymour Hersh's Abusive Use of Anonymous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#Use_of_anonymous_sources

In 2015, Vox's Max Fisher wrote that "Hersh has appeared increasingly to have gone off the rails. His stories, often alleging vast and shadowy conspiracies, have made startling — and often internally inconsistent — accusations, based on little or no proof beyond a handful of anonymous 'officials'."[71] Slate magazine's James Kirchick wrote, "Readers are expected to believe that the story of the Bin Laden assassination is a giant ‘fairy tale’ on the word of a single, unnamed source... Hersh's problem is that he evinces no skepticism whatsoever toward what his crank sources tell him, which is ironic considering how cynical he is regarding the pronouncements of the U.S. national security bureaucracy."[17][72] Politico wrote in 2015 that Hersh's reporting had increasingly been called into question due to "his almost exclusive reliance on anonymous sources".[73]

Nord Stream sabotage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#Nord_Stream_sabotage

In February 2023, in a post to Substack, Hersh claimed that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines had been carried out by the US Navy, the CIA, and the Norwegian Navy, under the direct order of President Biden. Hersh's report relied on an anonymous source who stated that, in June 2022, US Navy divers placed explosive C4 charges on the pipelines at strategic locations selected by the Norwegians. The source said that charges were placed under the cover of a multi-nation wargame simulation known as BALTOPS 22, and remotely detonated three months later by a signal from a sonar buoy dropped by a Norwegian P-8 surveillance plane.[57][58]

Russia's foreign ministry spokesperson, Maria Zakharova, said the United States had questions to answer over its role in the explosions.[59] A spokesperson for the United States National Security Council said the report was "utterly false and complete fiction".[60] The CIA said the claims were "completely false", and this was also the reaction from the Norwegian Foreign Department.[61]

Hersh wrote that NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg had been cooperating with US intelligence services since the Vietnam war and has been cleared ever since, and that this was part of the reason why the U.S. involved Norway in the operation.[62] At the time the Vietnam war ended, Jens Stoltenberg was 16 years old and, as late as 1985, Stoltenberg advocated for Norway leaving NATO.[62] Hersh's article said the U.S. divers who planted the explosives had operated from a Norwegian Alta-class minesweeper. The Norwegian Defence Forces said no Norwegian Alta-class mine sweepers had participated in BALTOPS 22 or were in the vicinity of the explosions during the exercise.[62]

Following Hersh's report, Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) tweeted that if the story was true, he and many of his fellow senators were not informed of the attack on Nord Stream. "If this turns out to be true, we've got a huge problem," Lee tweeted on 2/8/23.[63] The Chair of Russia's lower house of parliament called for an international investigation for "bringing Biden and his accomplices to justice".[64]

Hersh's reporting was heavily criticized by other journalists.[65] Eliot Higgins, the founder of investigative journalism group Bellingcat, said that Hersh was unable to get his article published in a reputed newspaper and that his reporting would only impress the likes of people who support Putin and al-Assad.[66] Bellingcat investigative journalist Christo Grozev described Hersh's report as "total fiction"

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 8:00 PM (P)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/russia-putin-war-ukraine-disaster/

Putin's War Is a Long-Term Disaster for Russians
by Brent Peabody

As Russia ramps up its second offensive, a debate has erupted over whether Moscow or Kyiv will have the upper hand in 2023. While important, such discourse also misses a larger point related to the conflict’s longer-term consequences. In the long run, the true loser of the war is already clear; Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine will be remembered as a historic folly that left Russia economically, demographically, and geopolitically worse off.

Start with the lynchpin of Russia’s economy: energy. In contrast to Europe’s (very real) dependence on Russia for fossil fuels, Russia’s economic dependence on Europe has largely gone unremarked upon. As late as 2021, for example, Russia exported 32 percent of its coal, 49 percent of its oil, and a staggering 74 percent of its gas to OECD Europe alone. Add in Japan, South Korea, and non-OECD European countries that have joined Western sanctions against Russia, and the figure is even higher. A trickle of Russian energy continues to flow into Europe, but as the European Union makes good on its commitment to phase out Russian oil and gas, Moscow may soon find itself shut out of its most lucrative export market.

In a petrostate like Russia that derives 45 percent of its federal budget from fossil fuels, the impact of this market isolation is hard to overstate. Oil and coal exports are fungible, and Moscow has indeed been able to redirect them to countries such as India and China (albeit at discounted rates, higher costs, and lower profits). Gas, however, is much harder to reroute because of the infrastructure needed to transport it. With its $400 billion gas pipeline to China, Russia has managed some progress on this front, but it will take years to match current capacity to the EU. In any case, China’s leverage as a single buyer makes it a poor substitute for Europe, where Russia can bid countries against one another.

This market isolation, however, would be survivable were it not for the gravest unintended consequence of Russia’s war — an accelerated transition toward decarbonization. It took a gross violation of international law, but Putin managed to convince Western leaders to finally treat independence from fossil fuels as a national security issue and not just an environmental one.

This is best seen in Europe’s turbocharged transition toward renewable energy, where permitting processes that used to take years are being pushed up. A few months after the invasion, for example, Germany jump-started construction on what will soon be Europe’s largest solar plant. Around the same time, Britain accelerated progress on Hornsea 3, slated to become the world’s largest offshore wind farm upon completion. The results already speak for themselves; for the first time ever last year, wind and solar combined for a higher share of electrical generation in Europe than oil and gas. And this says nothing of other decarbonization efforts such as subsidies for heat pumps in the EU, incentives for clean energy in the United States, and higher electric vehicle uptake everywhere.

The cumulative effect for Russia could not be worse. Sooner or later, lower demand for fossil fuels will dramatically and permanently lower the price for oil and gas—an existential threat to Russia’s economy. When increased U.S. shale production depressed oil prices in 2014, for example, Russia experienced a financial crisis. Lower global demand for fossil fuels will play out over a longer timeline, but the result for Russia will be much graver. With its invasion, Russia hastened the arrival of an energy transition that promises to unravel its economy.

Beyond a smaller and less efficient economy, Putin’s war in Ukraine will also leave Russia with a smaller and less dynamic population. Russia’s demographic problems are well-documented, and Putin had intended to start reversing the country’s long-running population decline in

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 8:08 PM (P)

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/2/11/can-eu-russia-relations-b
e-repaired-post-putin


Can EU-Russia relations be repaired post-Putin?

Putin’s decision-making has set Russia down a path that any successor would find difficult to turn from.

by Dimitar Bechev, Visiting Scholar at Carnegie Europe

A year after Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the debate about whether this is President Vladimir Putin’s war or not continues. Anti-war Russians, many of whom have sought refuge outside the country, blame the Russian president. For them, his delusions and paranoia have caused a turn to neo-totalitarianism at home and military aggression abroad.

The Russian opposition in exile and in prison insists that if Putin is to fall from power, the situation would reverse. Leonid Volkov, the number two of imprisoned opposition leader Alexey Navalny, has even suggested that following the end of the war, the West should offer “a Marshall Plan” not only for Ukraine, in dire need of reconstruction, but also for Russia.

In other words, opposition-minded Russians hope that Moscow will rebuild bridges with Europe and the US once Putin is no longer on the throne.

Understandably, the notion of “Putin’s war” has next to no purchase in Ukraine itself. By and large, Ukrainians fault Russia as a country and as a society, whether it is the jingoistic cheerleaders for Moscow’s “special military operation” or the silent majority who choose to simply ignore it and get on with their daily lives.

Why should Russia be trusted to behave differently one day, they ask, given that Putin speaks for a nation with an imperial mindset?

Besides, a successor to the 70-year-old leader is unlikely to come from the pro-Western opposition or be any different from the current occupant of the Kremlin. Some of the names pundits speculate about – say the head of Russia’s Security Council, Nikolay Patrushev – are at least as hawkish as Putin. So for Ukrainians, Russia has to be defeated, no matter who runs the show in Moscow.

But what about the European Union? Has the war moved its relations with Russia – cultivated so carefully for so long – past a point of no return?

For Poland and the Baltic States that is very much the case. For a year now, they have had their “told you so” moment. Even before the Russian invasion last year and the occupation of Crimea in 2014, they made the case that Russian revanchism poses a fundamental threat to the post-Cold War order in Europe.

To the west, France and Germany, however, have been much more ambiguous in their approach to relations with Russia. From the moment he first assumed office in 2017, French President Emmanuel Macron has been making a case that Europe should think about the long term and engage the Russians. Macron stuck to this line pretty much until the invasion and kept calling Putin in the hope of working out a diplomatic solution of some sort. And as recently as last December, the French president spoke of “security guarantees” to Russia that should be part of a settlement.

Germany has elicited even more frustration and ire among Eastern European friends of Ukraine. Long years of cosying up to the Russians and business cum political ventures, such as the Nord Stream gas pipeline, have tainted its record. The German political class has long seen Russia as a friend and some, like former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, landed lucrative gigs with Moscow’s state-run energy companies.

In the past year, there has been some change in action and rhetoric. In the wake of the invasion, Chancellor Olaf Scholz declared the so-called Zeitenwende (historic turning point), the idea that Berlin will finally take European defence seriously and put its weight behind it both financially and politically. His position has found support among the German public, the majority of which is pro-Ukraine, too.

However, the German bias towards hugging closely Russia, in the expectation that denser ties yield greater security and predictability, has not been relegated to the past. Wit

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 11:04 PM (P)

So SECOND, I see that you're splattering the board with walls of shit, again.

Just OOC how many NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, etc articles depend on "anonymous"? Nearly every one? CLEARLY, SECOND, you're a brain-broken inmate posting from a psych ward. There's no other explanation for your posts which are so disconnected from each other. And from reality.

And... we attacked a democratic ally's vital energy infrastructure. An act of war by any interpretation.

Neocons are as nutty as you.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 11:10 PM (P)

USA Today: "Little By Little" Russia Is Winning Key Ground War

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/02/13/ukraine-russia-wa
r-live-updates/11246942002
/


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Tuesday, February 14, 2023 11:37 PM (P)

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"Little By Little" Russia Is Winning Key Ground War

The scenes are chaotic: Russian tanks veering wildly before exploding or driving straight into minefields, men running in every direction, some on fire, the bodies of soldiers caught in tank tracks.

Russian military bloggers are calling it a fiasco, and worse.


About 20 videos geolocated by CNN show basic tactical blunders in an area that’s open and flat, where Ukrainian spotters on higher ground can direct artillery strikes and where minefields are worsening Russian casualties.

The Russian Defense Ministry has insisted the assault on Vuhledar, where the 155th Marine Brigade is prominently involved, is going according to plan. In remarks recorded for a Sunday television show, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the “marine infantry is working as it should. Right now. Fighting heroically.”

A previously ill-conceived plan in November to take Vuhledar led to heavy casualties and a near mutiny among men of the 155th Marine Brigade.

Critics of Russia’s military high command say the handling of the latest offensive is worse still, with one military blogger describing it as a “shameful debacle.”

Cooper says the Russians built a formidable force around Vuhledar, “say, a total of about 20,000 troops, 90 MBTs [main battle tanks], perhaps two times as many IFVs [infantry fighting vehicles], and about 100 artillery pieces.”

But attacks launched in the last week of January were fatally flawed, he said. “They were advancing along a relatively narrow route, all the time in sight of Ukrainian observers posted atop of high buildings in Vuhledar, and now facing about 500 meters of empty terrain on the eastern side of the town,” Cooper wrote on his blog.

“Ukrainian artillery not only caused heavy losses to the advancing units but hit their rear too – cutting off both their supply links and their possible withdrawal routes.”

A number of prominent Russian military bloggers have been unrestrained in their criticism of the Vuhledar offensive.

“They were shot like turkeys at a shooting range,” said former DPR Defense Minister Igor Strelkov, who has become a strident critic of the campaign.

Strelkov, also known as Igor Girkin, added on Telegram that “a lot of good T-72B3/T-80BVM tanks and the best paratroopers and marines were liquidated.”

In another post on Telegram, Strelkov wrote: “Only morons attack head-on in the same place, heavily fortified and extremely inconvenient for the attackers for many months in a row.”

Moscow Calling asserted that older T-72 tanks deployed in Vuhledar lack upgrades that would improve the driver’s breadth of vision. That may help explain several instances in which Russian tanks seemed to get entangled or reverse blindly.

“How are blind, deaf tanks, armored personnel carriers, with equally blind, deaf infantry supposed to fight without columns? And then how to coordinate any actions if there is no communication and situational awareness?” he wrote.

“If the Russian Armed Forces try to disperse, they will shoot each other, because they do not understand who is in front of them.”

Russian forces continue to have a distinct advantage in firepower. On Saturday they launched a barrage of thermobaric missiles at Vuhledar, a reminder that they are more capable of inflicting destruction than taking territory.

Much, much more at https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/europe/russia-ukraine-vuhledar-donetsk-
fiasco-intl/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 12:07 AM (P)

Oh look!!!

It's Weapons of Mass Distraction!!!

Snowden Says UFO Hysteria Is "Engineered" Distraction From Nord Stream Pipeline Bombshell
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/snowden-says-ufo-hysteria-engineer
ed-distraction-nord-stream-pipeline-bombshell


followed by ...

In Sudden Narrative Shift, Pentagon Admits Mystery Objects 'Probably' Private Craft Not Tied To Spying
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sudden-narrative-shift-pentagon-ad
mits-mystery-objects-probably-private-craft-not-tied


Yep, our war in Ukraine must be going really well if we have to float "UFO" spy balloons.

"The truth is out there".
Somewhere.
But not in the M$M.





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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 2:35 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look!!!

It's Weapons of Mass Distraction!!!

Snowden Says UFO Hysteria Is "Engineered" Distraction From Nord Stream Pipeline Bombshell
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/snowden-says-ufo-hysteria-engineer
ed-distraction-nord-stream-pipeline-bombshell


followed by ...

In Sudden Narrative Shift, Pentagon Admits Mystery Objects 'Probably' Private Craft Not Tied To Spying
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sudden-narrative-shift-pentagon-ad
mits-mystery-objects-probably-private-craft-not-tied


Yep, our war in Ukraine must be going really well if we have to float "UFO" spy balloons.

"The truth is out there".






Here is some truth comrade.

T



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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 2:46 AM (P)

Quote:

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Oh look!!!

I looked, but as per your usual, you've got nothing, Signym.
I've got something:

Feb 14, 2023 - Nick Paton Walsh investigates Russia's use of prisoners to fight the war in Ukraine.
Hear Russian prisoner's chilling final message to wife after fighting in Ukraine.

The Tactical Training for these recruits is both simple and very ineffective.
You can see why the Russians have massive casualties, even if you know nothing about tactics.



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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 3:22 AM (P)

Russian forces have moved at least 6,000 Ukrainian children to camps and facilities across Russia for forced adoptions and military training, according to a new report issued on Feb 14th.

The report is “Russia’s systematic program for the re-education and adoption of Ukraine’s children.”
https://hub.conflictobservatory.org/portal/apps/sites/#/home/pages/chi
ldren-camps-1


“Consider this report a gigantic Amber Alert,” Nathaniel Raymond, executive director of Yale University’s Humanitarian Research Lab, said on a call with reporters. He added that this is the most “consequential and comprehensive report” yet published on the matter.

Raymond said that Conflict Observatory researchers, in partnership with Yale’s Humanitarian Research Lab, discovered a network of at least 43 camps and facilities where Russian authorities hold Ukrainian children.

“The primary purpose of the camps and facilities that we have identified appears to be political re-education,” Raymond said. He added that some sites are dedicated to an expedited adoption process and others are used as military training centers.

The youngest child at an adoption camp is 4 months old, while the youngest children at the military training camps appear to be about 14, Raymond said. He said that all levels of the Russian government are involved in the expansive program.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/14/ukraine-war-news-russia-has-relocated-
more-than-6000-children.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 5:23 AM (P)

Elite Russian Marine Unit 'Nearly Destroyed' Near Ukraine’s Vuhledar

An elite Russian naval infantry unit made up of mostly mobilized troops has lost nearly all its troops in fighting near the eastern Ukrainian town of Vuhledar, Russian media reported Monday, citing one of the survivors.

The 5,000-strong 155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade has been “nearly destroyed” after up to 300 marines per day were killed in Russia's assault on the coal-mining town, according to comments by the Ukrainian defense forces to Politico on Sunday.

A surviving marine who spoke with the 7x7 regional news site said the losses were so severe that only eight men remained in one landing assault company, while the other survivors were taken prisoner.

“Those who survived were said to be deserters,” the unnamed marine was quoted as saying, estimating the brigade’s losses at 500 or more men killed.

Citing his commander, the marine told 7x7 that the brigade — nearly 90% of whom were recently mobilized soldiers — did not expect to return to Russia alive or unscathed.

“I wish I had been taken prisoner and never returned,” he added, complaining about the officers’ treatment of their soldiers.

The assault began on Jan. 23, the surviving marine told 7x7.

Russia’s Defense Ministry claimed that its forces had “neutralized” Ukrainian soldiers and military hardware near Vuhledar last week.

That claim drew ridicule from Russian pro-war military bloggers for repeating the mistakes of past failed offensives and dented their belief in the military’s capacity to mount a widely reported large-scale offensive.

The Russian Pacific Fleet’s 155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade made headlines in November after accusing its commander of causing massive losses in an assault near the eastern city of Donetsk.

Russia’s Defense Ministry issued a rare statement at the time denying the unit’s claims. The surviving marine told 7x7 on Monday that the brigade commander gave them a “strict reprimand” for airing its accusations in public.

The 155th brigade had to undergo three waves of restaffing after suffering defeats in Ukraine, Oleksiy Dmytrashkivskiy, the spokesman for the regional chapter of Ukraine’s defense forces, told Politico.

The marine who described the assault on Vuhledar to 7x7 said his command was “bringing in new” soldiers, many of whom are killed on the battlefield.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/14/elite-russian-marine-unit-ne
arly-destroyed-near-ukraines-vuhledar-a80220


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 5:39 AM (P)

I hope you don't mind,but I'm going to shitcan your posts along with the KIEV IS WINNING! and 2000,000 RUSSIAN DEAD! and the rest of the bullshit in the "establishment" press.

Just bc they're "establishment" doesn't mean they're sane.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 6:21 AM (P)

Quote:

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I hope you don't mind,but I'm going to shitcan your posts along with the KIEV IS WINNING! and 2000,000 RUSSIAN DEAD! and the rest of the bullshit in the "establishment" press.

Just bc they're "establishment" doesn't mean they're sane.

If the war doesn't end well for Russia you will be completely blindsided, Signym. I know how Russians handle bad news: It is fake news. We Won. Victory Was Ours! There can be no defeat large enough to eclipse the Eternal Glorious Sun of Russia!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 8:20 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I hope you don't mind,but I'm going to shitcan your posts along with the KIEV IS WINNING! and 2000,000 RUSSIAN DEAD! and the rest of the bullshit in the "establishment" press.

Just bc they're "establishment" doesn't mean they're sane.

If the war doesn't end well for Russia you will be completely blindsided, Signym. I know how Russians handle bad news: It is fake news. We Won. Victory Was Ours! There can be no defeat large enough to eclipse the Eternal Glorious Sun of Russia!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I'm willing to take that risk.

Question is, will YOU ever admit to being wrong?
I suspect you'll do like any of the other neocons... you'll just drag another RUSSIA!TRUMP!WHATEVER! red herring across the topic and try to memory hole your egregious OPPS.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 9:32 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I'm willing to take that risk.

Question is, will YOU ever admit to being wrong?
I suspect you'll do like any of the other neocons... you'll just drag another RUSSIA!TRUMP!EHATEVER! Ted herring across the topic and try to memory hole your egregious OPPS.

This Russian General, who understands better than you ever will, is worried about Russia:

Retired Russian Colonel-General Ivashov: One Year Ago, I Warned That Invading Ukraine Will Hurt Russia; The Current Reality Is Much Worse Than I Predicted

"I'll speak abstractly. Let's take two countries. One country [Russia] is conducting mass mobilization. Naturally, various 'tough' officials, children of businessmen, avoid this mobilization. All the rest remain, [and] with their help they are going to achieve mass superiority on the battlefield. And another country [Ukraine] is mobilizing intelligence, the smartest people in all areas: in the economy, in intelligence, in security issues, in military affairs, and so on. And I am convinced that without any mass mobilization, this collective intelligence will defeat any army of millions. Intelligence always dominates the battlefield...

"If sober-minded people are muzzled, then you only become dumber and more corrupt, but not stronger in any way. We are being defeated by intellect. And in our country, instead of intellect, people are twisting arms, intimidating, and imprisoning. In such a situation, the country always loses and does not have long to live."

https://www.memri.org/reports/retired-russian-colonel-general-ivashov-
one-year-ago-i-warned-invading-ukraine-will-hurt


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 1:36 PM (P)

Son, you have to start knowing who you should listen to and who you should ignore. If somebody over there signing from the same hymnbook as somebody over here who's lied (repeatedly) then you just tune out the sound altogether bc it's just noise.

I ignore your posts for the most part, and I ignore the ppl you cnstantly plagiarize bc they (and you) have been proven as serial liars.

BTW, this so-called general completely mischaracerizes what's happening in Ukraine. Anyone with two neurons and/or two hrivna to rub together has already fled. The remainder they're dragooning off the streets. They're trying to train up the younger, fitter ones to reserve for ... something. The rest, they're just throwing under Russian artillery fire Hardly a recipe for success.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 2:27 PM (P)

So I've been hearing conflicting opinions/"analysis" of Ukraine. Arecent RAND report, a recent CSIS report, a couple of reports from Col Vershinin and some random articles in FT are all pointing to Ukraine's failing outlook. Even Jens Stoltenberg recently admitted that NATO is running out of munitions to give to Ukraine.

And after all of these "whatever it takes for as long as it takes" statements of blood brotherhood, EU/NATO nations are realizing that their weapons cupboards are bare and they don't have enough to share with Ukraine.

The Pentagon was advising Z just last week that he needs to abandon Bakhmut and preserve his forces. The State Dept is telling him to cling on until those (so far unobtainable) weapons come rolling in. Or maybe do something dramatic like counterattack.

That there are conflicting narratives out there tells me that there is a previously hidden disagreement bubbling to the surface. It might be the Pentagon and Treasury v State Dept and WH neoconss. Possible blamestorming and fingerpointing and narrative revision being prepared? Not paying a whole lot of attn,jar what I've been hearing.


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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 4:53 PM (P)

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BTW, this so-called general completely mischaracerizes what's happening in Ukraine. Anyone with two neurons and/or two hrivna to rub together has already fled. The remainder they're dragooning off the streets. They're trying to train up the younger, fitter ones to reserve for ... something. The rest, they're just throwing under Russian artillery fire Hardly a recipe for success.

You will have a hard time disagreeing with the Russian general's opinion of NATO:
The Ukraine War Revived NATO After It Lost Its Meaning, Unified The Collective West

"I could not have guessed that Finland and Sweden would apply to join NATO. This whole chain of events is going according to plan. Frankly speaking, this is the third time we have saved NATO. After the collapse of the USSR, NATO [as a bloc] lost its meaning. We've ceded to them a significant portion of lands located in Eastern Europe; we allowed them to incorporate some of the former Warsaw Pact member-states. We worked extensively with NATO at one time and asked questions there, 'From whom are you defending yourselves now?'

"Many generals and officers perceived themselves to be unemployed. Then they created the 'Partnership for Peace' program. They had to bear such rubbish. I witnessed a gathering of defense ministers from 42 countries, and an Englishman came to the rostrum and started to talk about the main threats NATO was going to face. Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction took first place, second came international terrorism; drugs came third, illegal immigration followed.

(Note: In 1994, Russian Foreign Minister Andrei Kozyrev signed the Partnership for Peace Agreement with NATO )

"Naturally, I asked the division commander, the air wing commander, the commander of some of their cruisers to tell me how they would fight the drug trade or illegal immigration, for instance. I said, 'What do you take us for? Do you take us for idiots?' Nevertheless, we agreed to it.

"Then the Yugoslav conflict saved NATO. And now we are saving it. We gave NATO over to the Americans completely: do whatever you want. Most European countries were constantly cutting back on defense expenditures. But we gave all Europe to the hands of the Americans. We talked all the time and continue to talk of some collective West, although no collective West existed previously. A mass of contradictions existed. But today we have created this collective West with our own hands. We couldn't predict all this. So, I agree with Putin that everything is going to plan...

"I look at this whole process as a dynamic. It all started with the question: to give or not to give Ukraine lethal weapons, or only bulletproof vests? And today the question is already: to give the F-16s or not? And today we are no longer talking about dozens of Abrams and Challenger [tanks]. The latest news: about 400 tanks have been promised to Ukraine. There are already agreements for 320 tanks. So, it's all serious. And there are no restrictions, except for missiles and combat aircraft. Everything is flowing. Because Russia gave Europe into the hands of the Americans."

https://www.memri.org/reports/retired-russian-colonel-general-ivashov-
one-year-ago-i-warned-invading-ukraine-will-hurt


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 5:24 PM (P)

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Oh look!!!

It's Weapons of Mass Distraction!!!

Snowden Says UFO Hysteria Is "Engineered" Distraction From Nord Stream Pipeline Bombshell
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/snowden-says-ufo-hysteria-engineer
ed-distraction-nord-stream-pipeline-bombshell

Snowden and Hersh: Useful idiots, posing as political dissidents, promote disinformation for Russia

A Pulitzer-winning journalist, Hersh has in recent years developed a reputation for questionable reporting. Now he once again produced an exclusive that was full of holes: he made scandalous allegations, but based them on a single source. He told a coherent story, but lacked a smoking gun. The verdict was clear: Hersh’s explosive investigation was self-published, because it would never get past an editor?

But if we just dismiss Hersh’s story as bad journalism, we risk missing its impact.

The story, tossed aside as not rigorous enough by many in mainstream policy and journalism circles, metastasized elsewhere, spread by Russian propagandists, American leftists and conservatives (“So many details in here, that it is not possible that it’s not true. It is true!” declared Tucker Carlson), Indian and Chinese outlets, Edward Snowden, Sky News Australia and even publications like the Times of London have picked it up. And I am naming only a few.

Those who didn’t pick up the original story, like Al Jazeera, reported on the Russian reaction to it. (In case you are wondering, Russians agreed with Hersh). We will never know who Hersh’s single, anonymous source on this story was, but in the end, the product bears all the hallmarks of disinformation.

“This is how disinfo 101 works,” says Emily Bell, director at the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University in New York. “A piece is published, it triggers a reaction. Media then reports on the reaction, further extending the lifespan of that original piece.”

The result: millions of people around the world now believe that the United States conducted an act of war against Russia. Even though they haven’t seen any actual proof.

And millions more who will one day hear the allegation and google “Nord Stream pipeline” will find themselves lost in the avalanche of information that will either confirm their pre-existing biases or just confuse them further. Either way, truth and nuance are lost in the noise. Disinformation wins.

More at https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/seymour-hersh-nord-stream/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 7:12 PM (P)

SECOND, posting from the psych unit again


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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 7:29 PM (P)

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SECOND, posting from the psych unit again

I don't often say this out loud to people I know who defend Trump, as you have done, Signym, because these people already have more than the average number of problems, most caused by the habitual way their minds work. I don't want to hurt them any more than they hurt themselves by telling them what they are, but Signym, you are fucking stupid and deserve all the problems you have. So do the Russians. If this war doesn't end the way they think it should, that would be because Russians are fucking stupid and ruining themselves for no good reason.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2023 7:35 PM (P)

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I don't often say this out loud to people I know who defend Trump, as you have done, Signym, because these people already have more than the average number of problems, most caused by the habitual way their minds work. I don't want to hurt them any more than they hurt themselves by telling them what they are, but Signym, you are fucking stupid and deserve all the problems you have. So do the Russians. If this war doesn't end the way they think it should, that would be because Russians are fucking stupid and ruining themselves for no good reason.


Well, as a matter of fact you DO want to hurt people. You've threatened people online and claim to have turned lives into "smoking ruins". That must be one of your multiple personalities talking, causing you to contradict yourself.
Again

I can't claim to have a perfect understanding of people I meet online - like you do- but constantly lying to yourself has clearly caused some sort of breakdown bc you're in complete denial about yourself.
I hope you're getting the help you need.


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