Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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THG

Wednesday, April 5, 2023 11:49 PM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile... Russia captures Bakhmut city administration building. I'm a little off on my prediction. I said they would capture Bakhmut by end of March. Apparently my timeline is slipping a little.

Meanwhile, desperation fuels terrorist action. Like the assassinations of Daryana Dugina, or the previous assassinations of two Donbas commanders (when Kiev was getting it's ass handed to it) Kiev's SBU has apparently resorted to assassinating journalists.

SECOND: Signym, you're crazy.

Russian authorities are blaming Ukrainian government entities
Maybe
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and Russian opposition figure Alexei Navalny
nope!

As usual, I get only one or two sentences into your posts before I stumble over something so blindingly stupid I have to stop.

Navalny is in prison, last I heard. I doubt he could organize anything.

You're a loser, troll.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

T

Putin's paranoia reaches new heights by standing 60ft away from his audience

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA19vIrM.img?w
=1920&h=1080&q=60&m=2&f=jpg

SECOND

Wednesday, April 5, 2023 11:55 PM (P)

Is there a reason to think Russians are crazy killers? Maybe:

Russia hawks exploit blogger’s death to demand executions and an even harsher crackdown on dissent

One of Russia’s most popular television hosts, Vladimir Soloviev, said that Trepova “should be shot,” along with her husband, who is living abroad.

“Drag him by his ears back to Russia and put him up against the wall,” Soloviev said on his show.

Soloviev also said that other Russian dissenters living abroad “should be thrown into sacks, brought back to Russia” to “rot in prison” or “be shot.”

On another popular Russian show called “60 Minutes,” one senior regional official, Andrey Gurulev, said he longed for the “days of Stalin…when the enemies of the people would get a pick and an axe and have fun waving it at a [Siberian prison camp].”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/05/europe/russia-hawks-blogger-death-crack
down-intl/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 6, 2023 1:00 AM (P)

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Finland just fucked itself.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/it-is-finn-ished/

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Congrats, Finland on becoming the thirty-first member of NATO. Imagine their shock when they realize being a member of NATO means fighting NATO’s wars of choice.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 6, 2023 8:54 AM (P)

Ukraine ‘ready’ to talk to Russia on Crimea if counteroffensive succeeds

https://www.ft.com/content/d68b4007-4ddf-4320-b29a-f2eee2662d6e

... but behind a subscription wall.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Thursday, April 6, 2023 11:28 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ukraine ‘ready’ to talk to Russia on Crimea if counteroffensive succeeds

https://www.ft.com/content/d68b4007-4ddf-4320-b29a-f2eee2662d6e

... but behind a subscription wall.

Firefox's Toggle Reader View (F9) will get "behind a subscription wall". I will show you an example of how that works:

Ukraine ‘ready’ to talk to Russia on Crimea if counteroffensive succeeds

Christopher Miller, Felicia Schwartz

Kyiv is willing to discuss the future of Crimea with Moscow if its forces reach the border of the Russian-occupied peninsula, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has told the Financial Times.

The comments by Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of Zelenskyy’s office, are the most explicit statement of Ukraine’s interest in negotiations since it cut off peace talks with the Kremlin last April.

“If we will succeed in achieving our strategic goals on the battlefield and when we will be on the administrative border with Crimea, we are ready to open a diplomatic page to discuss this issue,” Sybiha said, referring to Kyiv’s long-planned counteroffensive.

He added: “It doesn’t mean that we exclude the way of liberation [of Crimea] by our army.”

Sybiha’s remarks may relieve western officials who are sceptical about Ukraine’s ability to reclaim the peninsula and worry that any attempt to do so militarily could lead President Vladimir Putin to escalate his war, possibly with nuclear weapons.

To date Zelenskyy has ruled out peace talks until Russian forces leave all of Ukraine, including Crimea.

Sybiha is a veteran diplomat who focuses on foreign policy in the president’s office and has been at Zelenskyy’s side at key moments in the war.

He said the president and his aides were now talking specifically about Crimea, as Ukraine’s army gets closer to launching its counteroffensive to regain territory.

A spokesperson for Zelenskyy did not respond to requests for comment.

Rear Admiral Tim Woods, the British defence attaché in Washington, said on Wednesday that Crimea would need “a political solution because of just the concentration of force that is there and what it would mean for the Ukrainians to go in there”.

He added: “I don’t think there’s going to be a very quick military solution . . . hence we need to see what are favourable conditions for Ukraine to negotiate and I think Ukraine would be up for that.”

In the early days of the war, Ukraine was willing to negotiate with Moscow over the future of Crimea rather than insisting on regaining it militarily at all costs.

But at present the only known contacts between Kyiv and Moscow are to negotiate prisoner of war exchanges and the return of children forcibly deported to Russia.

Ukraine broke off the peace talks after the discovery of alleged Russian war crimes in the Kyiv suburb of Bucha, while Zelenskyy signed a decree declaring negotiations with Putin impossible after the Kremlin annexed four provinces in September.

Ukraine’s president has repeatedly made clear his ultimate goal of bringing all his country’s land, including Crimea, under Kyiv’s control.

But in May last year he indicated Ukraine could consider a peace deal if Russian forces returned to positions in eastern Ukraine predating last year’s invasion and suggested the issue of Crimea would be resolved later through diplomacy.

Crimea has been under Russian occupation since February 2014 and was annexed by Moscow the following month after a mock referendum — a move condemned internationally as an illegal land grab.

Ukrainian forces have recently stepped up their attacks on Russian military facilities in the peninsula, including land and sea-based drone assaults.

Kyiv is also hoping that its coming counteroffensive will make headway south — possibly through Zaporizhzhia province — and sever a land bridge that allows Russia to supply its invasion forces from Crimea.

Mykhailo Podolyak, a Zelenskyy adviser, told Radio Free Europe on Wednesday that Ukrainian forces would be on Crimea’s doorst

SECOND

Thursday, April 6, 2023 6:16 PM (P)

With every passing day, the chances that the Russian military would achieve an operational breakthrough on the ground before the large-scale Ukrainian counteroffensive lessen.

Despite throwing men and weapon systems against multiple points in the Donbas and the east, the Russian forces have failed to achieve anything but some marginal territorial gains since they began their large-scale offensive in January.

To make the situation harder for the Kremlin, the turn for the Ukrainian military to respond approaches.

The weather and operational conditions for the large-scale Ukrainian counteroffensive are improving, and Kyiv is expected to attack in the next few weeks.

Meanwhile, on day 405 of the conflict, Finland formally joined NATO, thus doubling the transatlantic alliance’s land border with Russia.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/04/putins-ukraine-war-is-slowly-break
ing-the-russian-military/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Thursday, April 6, 2023 8:29 PM (P)

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov responded to a reporter’s question Wednesday regarding Russia’s relationship with the United States:

“We really are in a hot phase of the war, because Ukrainian Nazis are using American weapons, first and foremost. And the American administration keeps threatening to deliver longer-range and more deadly weapons systems," Lavrov said. "But nevertheless, I think we should continue to support our relations, and we hope that the Americans will wake up at once and return to the negotiating table. We'll see, we won't have to wait much longer."

Some background: Throughout the conflict Russian President Vladimir Putin has continuously framed his invasion of Ukraine – a country with a Jewish president – as a campaign of supposed “denazification,” a description dismissed by historians and political observers alike.

Last year, Lavrov – Putin’s top diplomat – sought to justify Moscow’s goal of “de-Nazifying” Ukraine by claiming Adolf Hitler had “Jewish blood” and that “the most ardent anti-Semites are usually Jews.”

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-04-06
-23/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, April 7, 2023 1:58 AM (P)

There Is No Fixing Stupid When It Comes to Western Delusions About Russia
https://sonar21.com/there-is-no-fixing-stupid-when-it-comes-to-western
-delusions-about-russia/

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Friday, April 7, 2023 3:29 AM (P)

Chinese Ambassador to the EU Fu Cong stated on April 5 that the Russian–Chinese joint statement declaring there were “no limits” to their ties released in February 2022 was misrepresented, calling “no limits” a “purely rhetorical statement.”[7]

Fu added that China does not support Russia’s war in Ukraine and is not providing Russia weapons.

Fu’s statement is consistent with ISW’s March 21 assessment that Putin has not been able to secure the benefits from the no-limits bilateral partnership with China which he likely hoped for when meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Moscow between March 20 and March 22.[8]

https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-a
ssessment-april-5-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, April 7, 2023 7:55 PM (P)

Lukashenko delivered boilerplate rhetoric that continues to indicate that he has no intention of involving Belarus further in Russia’s war effort.

Lukashenko stated that NATO is conducting a purposeful buildup of forces along the borders of the Union State and that the West has unleashed an informational, political, and economic war against Belarus and Russia.[10] Lukashenko has previously employed such rhetoric in an attempt to justify resisting Kremlin pressure to further support the Russian war effort in Ukraine by arguing that Belarus needs to protect the western flank of the Union State.[11]

ISW has written at length about why Lukashenko is extraordinarily unlikely to further involve Belarus in the war in Ukraine.[12] ISW has previously assessed that Lukashenko is increasingly losing maneuvering room with the Kremlin amid the Kremlin’s steady pressure campaign to formalize the Russian-Belarusian Union State, and Lukashenko may be acquiescing to further integration measures while rejecting Putin’s likely larger demand for the direct participation of Belarusian forces in Russia’s war against Ukraine.[13]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-6-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, April 8, 2023 6:10 PM (P)

Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. Since then, Russia has launched four great offensives. Three were military; the fourth was economic. And while you don’t hear much about that last offensive, its failure offers some very important lessons. What can we learn from the failure of Russia’s energy offensive?

First, Russia looks more than ever like a Potemkin superpower, with little behind its impressive facade. Its much-vaunted military is far less effective than advertised; now its role as an energy supplier is proving much harder to weaponize than many imagined.

Second, democracies are showing, as they have many times in the past, that they are much tougher, much harder to intimidate than they look.

Finally, modern economies are far more flexible, and far more able to cope with change, than some vested interests would have us believe.

For as long as I can remember, fossil-fuel lobbyists and their political supporters have insisted that any attempt to reduce greenhouse gas emissions would be disastrous for jobs and economic growth. But what we’re seeing now is Europe making an energy transition under the worst possible circumstances — sudden, unexpected and drastic — and handling it pretty well. This suggests that a gradual, planned green energy transition would be far easier than pessimists imagine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/opinion/putins-energy-natural-gas.h
tml

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Sunday, April 9, 2023 2:31 PM (P)

Russia’s missile campaign to degrade Ukraine’s unified energy infrastructure has failed definitively, and Russia appears to have abandoned the effort.

Ukrainian Energy Minister Herman Halushchenko announced on April 8 that Ukraine is resuming energy exports for the first time since October 11, 2022.[24]

Russian authorities began efforts in October to degrade Ukrainian energy infrastructure to a significant extent by the end of winter, which Russians consider March 1;[25] however, the series of large-scale Russian missile strikes on energy infrastructure failed to achieve the assessed Russian aims of causing a humanitarian disaster, weakening Ukrainian military capabilities, and forcing Ukraine to negotiate. State-run Russian media acknowledged this failure on March 1.[26] Russia likely abandoned the effort soon after.

The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense (UK MoD) noted on April 8 that the frequency of Russian large-scale, long-range attacks on energy infrastructure has decreased since March 2023. The UK MoD assessed that Russia continues small-scale strikes (strikes using fewer than 25 munitions) with predictably less effect.[27] Russia maintains the capability to renew such strikes though, if it so desired. Halushchenko stated that Ukraine has the flexibility to adjust Ukrainian energy exports if the situation changes.[28]

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) may be setting conditions for a false flag attack in Sumy Oblast. The Russian MoD claimed on April 8 that Ukrainian forces have been delivering dead bodies from morgues to Okhtyrka, Sumy Oblast and applying toxic chemicals to the remains and the area in order to allege that Russian forces used chemical weapons.[35] Russian forces may be attempting to set informational conditions for future chemical weapons attacks in Sumy Oblast or to justify previous chemical weapons use, although ISW has not observed Russian forces recently using chemical weapons in the area. It is unclear what overarching effect the Kremlin intends to achieve with increasingly outlandish and ineffective Russian information operations alleging Ukrainian false flag attacks.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-8-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Monday, April 10, 2023 12:12 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

There Is No Fixing Stupid When It Comes to Western Delusions About Russia
https://sonar21.com/there-is-no-fixing-stupid-when-it-comes-to-western
-delusions-about-russia/

Do you mean delusions like this guys.

T

YOU BELONG TO YOUR RUSSIAN MOTHERLAND | You don't Belong To Yourself

INSIDE RUSSIA
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SIGNYM

Monday, April 10, 2023 12:51 AM (P)

Waiting for two signal events...

The fall of Bakhmut. Coming soon.

Kiev's long-advertised spring offensive. Coming... soon?
Makes more sense aiming at Kherson, not Zaparozhiy.

*****
Kiev takes a page from USA racism and jihadists, burns churches.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Monday, April 10, 2023 1:32 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Waiting for two signal events...

The fall of Bakhmut. Coming soon.

Kiev's long-advertised spring offensive. Coming... soon?
Makes more sense aiming at Kherson, not Zaparozhiy.

Russian state TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov, nicknamed 'Putin's voice' because of his ideological affinity with the Russian president, predicted Russia will "fully move onto the war footing" if Ukraine achieves "strategic success" with a counter-attack.

Claiming he has "no doubt" how Putin would respond to such a reverse, he said: "If necessary, there will be a mobilization of our society and industries. All necessary army reserves will be brought in.

"The country will fully move onto the war footing. It will get stirred up like never before and will continue to fight, despite temporary losses, until the Nazi Ukrainian nation is completely destroyed along with its collaborators, including Poland, the Baltic states, and other dirtbags."

Russian State TV Host Attacks 'Pacifists' Against Using Nuclear Weapons
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-host-attacks-pacificists-aga
inst-using-nuclear-weapons-1793349

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, April 10, 2023 3:19 AM (P)

There are rumors going around speculating what the west will do if Kiev's long-advertised fails to meet it's objectives (whatever they are).

Redefine the objectives to match the results?

Use nukes?

One interesting rumor is that some neocons would like to create a Polish-Lithuanian -western Ukraine Commonwealth. Seems like it would be a hard sell to Germany and France, creating a strong bloc like that. OTOH we DID manage to convince Germany to commit economic suicide, and just to make sure we blew up their ~~pipelines~~ lifelines, with nary a peep of protest. So while knows? Maybe Germany will roll over like it's done before.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Monday, April 10, 2023 3:37 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are rumors going around speculating what the west will do if Kiev's long-advertised fails to meet it's objectives (whatever they are).

One interesting rumor is that some neocons would like to create a Polish-Lithuanian -western Ukraine Commonwealth.

Give a citation for where you got the rumors. Did you make them up because they seem plausible to you? For example: "a Polish-Lithuanian -western Ukraine Commonwealth" is from 1569 and 2020, not 2023: Lublin Triangle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lublin_Triangle

Just to make it a little clearer because Signym is far too articulate (as in talks and gossips too much) and yet is completely stupid about practicalities, the Lublin Triangle is not some secret conspiracy by neocons . . .

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Monday, April 10, 2023 4:36 AM (P)

Foreign Policy (FP) magazine has been referenced. Supposedly in the last month.
.... Ah, here it is.

Quote:
A political construct created nearly 700 years ago offers solutions for Europe today.
By Dalibor Rohac, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

In 1386, the last pagan ruler of Lithuania, Jogaila, married the child queen of Poland, Jadwiga, then in her early teens. The marriage created a political union between Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which encompassed large parts of today’s Belarus and Ukraine. By doing so, it solved a twofold problem. One, it helped bring the vast Eastern European territories, including lands of the former Kyivan Rus’, into the fold of Western Christendom. Two, the union addressed the immediate security concern facing both Poles and Lithuanians: the threat of Teutonic Knights.

MORE AT
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/26/its-time-to-bring-back-the-polish
-lithuanian-union/

Be a dear and get us the rest of the text.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SIGNYM

Monday, April 10, 2023 6:34 AM (P)

Oh BTW SECOND whenever I delve into your "Putin says/ some random member of the Duma says/ some random Russian commentator says" posts, I find - in the first para or so- the headlines misquote take out of context, or completely fabricate shit. Not going to do a point-by-point refutation bc, really, it's not worth my time. Just a general observation that they're written by droids who can't even lie without tripping over themselves.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Monday, April 10, 2023 5:25 PM (P)

Russia continues to weaponize religion in an effort to discredit Ukraine in the international arena and is using information operations about religion to advance military objectives despite itself committing gross violations of religious freedom in occupied Ukraine.

The Kremlin continues an information operation aimed at falsely portraying Russia as a religiously tolerant state while deliberately repressing religious freedoms in Ukraine. Putin consistently presents Russia as the defender of traditional “Christian values” that also supports Orthodox, Islam, Judaism, and Buddhism religions.[37] The Kremlin uses this information operation to accuse Ukraine of religious intolerance towards the Moscow Patriarchate and gain favor with religious communities worldwide. This information operation is at odds with Russian religious repressions on the ground. The Ukrainian Ministry of Reintegration’s indicated that Russians have reduced religious diversity by over 50 percent in Crimea, for example.[38] The Kremlin continues to use long-standing false narratives that the Ukrainian government is oppressing religious liberties as a moral justification for its refusal to negotiate with Ukraine, likely in the hopes of turning international public opinion against Ukraine.[39] The Kremlin is especially keen on accusing the Ukrainian government of persecuting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church Moscow Patriarchate (UOC MP).[40]

Much more at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-9-2023

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh BTW SECOND whenever I delve into your "Putin says/ some random member of the Duma says/ some random Russian commentator says" posts, I find - in the first para or so- the headlines misquote take out of context, or completely fabricate shit. Not going to do a point-by-point refutation bc, really, it's not worth my time. Just a general observation that they're written by droids who can't even lie without tripping over themselves.

Signym, you have written the same lines a hundred times. Do you have a special key to produce it on your Russian-made computer?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Monday, April 10, 2023 5:39 PM (P)

Religious freedom in Ukraine – especially the freedom of religious minorities – are far better defended in Ukrainian-controlled territories than in Russia or Russian-occupied Ukrainian lands. The US Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) found that Russia is one of the worst violators of religious freedoms due to its restrictive state policies and prosecution of peaceful religious activities that are legal under Ukrainian law.[49] Ukraine’s Evangelical Baptist community, for example, expanded to encompass 2,272 churches and over 113,000 believers between 1991 and 2017.[50] Conversely, the Russian government has effectively outlawed foreign missionary work in Russia and persecuted Baptists along with many other Protestant sects since 2016.[51] Russia’s campaign of religious repression relentlessly targets Ukrainian churches and ”undesirable” Russian minorities in occupied Ukraine on a systematic basis. Russian forces will likely intensify this campaign and seek to eradicate religious organizations independent of Kremlin control, as Russian forces have done with Crimea’s Muslim Crimean Tatar population since occupying the peninsula in 2014.[52]

Moscow’s religious persecution campaign seeks to eradicate the Autocephalous (independent) Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU), which Moscow views as schismatic despite the decision by the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople in 2019 granting the Ukrainian Orthodox Church its independence from the Moscow Patriarchate. Russian occupation authorities are likely systematically eliminating OCU churches in occupied Ukraine. ISW’s research found that 34 percent of the reported persecution events targeted the OCU, making it the single most targeted religious group. The high percentage of persecution events aimed at the OCU is not surprising on the one hand because it is the most popular confession in Ukraine. It is surprising on the other hand because the Kremlin has been posturing as the defender of Christianity in general and Eastern Orthodoxy in particular.[20] Witness reports indicate that Russian authorities are seemingly targeting the OCU for its Ukrainianess. The Russians pursued such targeted attacks on the OCU even during the short-lived Russian partial occupation of Kyiv Oblast early in the war, suggesting that this targeting was an intentional component of the Russian invasion from the outset.[21]

Russian occupation officials are systematically seizing UOC property to transfer to the Moscow Patriarchate and are eliminating worship in the Ukrainian language. The synod of the Russian Orthodox Church issued a decision to officially annex the OCU’s dioceses in Dzhankoi, Simferopol, and Feodosia in Crimea on June 7, 2022, “out of the need to maintain an effective canonical and administrative connection with the central church authorities.”[22] Six Russian FSB agents raided an OCU church in Melitopol, detained and deported its priest for conducting the liturgy in the Ukrainian language, and then closed the church in November 2022.[23] Russian authorities have converted several OCU churches in occupied Ukraine to the Moscow Patriarchate.[24] The full extent of Russian efforts to forcibly convert Ukrainians in occupied territories to Russian Orthodoxy is unclear. Russian occupation authorities have made no explicit statement allowing the OCU to coexist with the Russian Orthodox Church in occupied Ukraine, which is alarming given the documented instances of repression and forced conversion of OCU churches.

Much more at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-9-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Monday, April 10, 2023 6:27 PM (P)

How America let Putin off the hook after Crimea

A POLITICO investigation shows that the tough sanctions put in place starting in 2014 suffered from weak enforcement at the Department of Justice and a lack of cooperation from allies, allowing oligarchs and their enablers to skate free.

Although Washington has since 2014 imposed multiple rounds of sanctions on Russia due to its invasion of Ukraine, the Justice Department under the Obama and Trump administrations did not prioritize prosecutions related to that war — filing relatively few cases until after Putin escalated it in 2022.

POLITICO’s findings support critics who argue that Washington, and the West more broadly, was too lenient toward Russia for too long, especially when it came to Ukraine. Such critics, who include Russian dissidents and Ukrainian activists, say America in particular should have imposed — and enforced — tougher Ukraine-related sanctions and other penalties more often and faster in the wake of the initial 2014 invasion.

“There was a whole appeasement psychology for a long time,” said Bill Browder, a British financier who has tangled with Putin and long argued for a tougher U.S. approach to the Kremlin. “It’s obvious to anyone who was close to the situation that Putin was maybe 95 percent responsible for the invasion of Ukraine, but we were 5 percent responsible by not doing anything up to this point.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/09/putin-russia-ukraine-sanction
-justice-department-00090386

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Monday, April 10, 2023 7:25 PM (P)

As Ukraine prepares its spring offensive, Russia goes from defeat to defeat

by Max Boot

There hasn’t been much movement on the front lines of Ukraine since Ukrainian forces liberated the city of Kherson in early November. It’s easy to conclude that the war is at a stalemate pending the outcome of Ukraine’s widely expected spring offensive — which would benefit from even more Western support than it has been getting. While there might be an element of truth to that assumption, it also masks a lot of developments in the past five months that have been positive for Ukraine and negative for Russia.

One of Vladimir Putin’s pseudo-justifications for his war of aggression was the supposed fear that Ukraine would join NATO. That was never likely (and still isn’t). But, as a result of his invasion, Finland just joined NATO, and Sweden should be close behind. Not only does Finland have Europe’s largest artillery force, but it also recently agreed to combine its warplanes with those of Norway, Denmark and Sweden in a joint operating force. The Nordic partners have 250 front-line combat aircraft, instantly creating a new military superpower in northern Europe. Thanks, Vlad, for making NATO stronger than ever.

So, too, Putin has no one but himself to blame for his recent indictment on war crimes charges by the International Criminal Court. That won’t have any immediate impact, but it’s not the kind of thing anyone wants on his résumé. At a minimum, it further delegitimizes Putin and hampers his travel to avoid arrest. Someday, like Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic, he could even wind up on trial for his crimes.

Putin tried to show that he was not isolated by hosting Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Moscow last month. But, beyond the photo op, Putin did not get much out of the meeting: Xi did not agree (at least publicly) to supply weapons to Russia or even to build another gas pipeline from Russia to China. China’s ambassador to the European Union just said that China’s “no limits” friendship with Russia — proclaimed last year by Xi and Putin — is “nothing but rhetoric.”

By contrast, the support that Ukraine has received from more than 50 donor nations is much more than just rhetorical. All that aid has turned Ukraine, during the past year, into one of the strongest military powers in Europe. Putin hoped to use a cutoff of Russian gas supplies to force the Europeans to stop supporting Ukraine. The Russian gambit failed; Europe adjusted to the cutoff and hasn’t wavered in its support of Ukraine.

Ukraine has not only been winning the battle for international support. It has also won another critical and underappreciated victory in recent months in its battle to keep the lights and heat on.

In early October, frustrated that Russia’s advance on the ground had stopped, Putin began targeting Ukrainian electrical and heating infrastructure with missile and drone strikes. The Russian strategy was to make life so unbearable for Ukrainians that they would sue for peace. It didn’t work, thanks to all the air defenses, generators and spare parts sent by the West and all the dedication shown by Ukrainian air-defense and electrical-repair crews. Now spring is arriving, the lights are still on, and, according to one recent poll, 97 percent of Ukrainians still believe they will win the war. Ukraine is even exporting electricity once again.

Russia’s piecemeal offensive in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine hasn’t gone any better than its attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure. A three-week battle for control of the coal-mining town of Vuhledar ended in disaster for the Russians. Repeatedly ambushed by skillful Ukrainian defenders, the lumbering Russian columns had to pull back after losing an estimated 130 tanks and armored personnel carriers and 5,000 soldiers killed, wounded or taken prisoner.

Russia has suffered even heavier losses of personnel — mostly prisoners and mercenaries from the Wagner Group — in its suicidal, human wave attacks on the city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine. A

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, April 10, 2023 10:51 PM (P)

If Russia is doing so bad, how come the propaganda machine keeps working overtime to tenderize your idiot brain, Second?

You are so fucking stupid.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SIGNYM

Monday, April 10, 2023 11:37 PM (P)

I stopped reading at the byline because everybody knows Max Boot is a neocon 'tard.

I noticed that SECOND and THUGR are avoiding that whole "leaked top secret Pentagon docs show Kiev in poor position for spring offensive" topic. ... or anything tainted with actual facts

Did you notice that they always post OPINION?
Who are they trying to kid?

DOJ Races To Find Source of Leaked Pentagon Documents
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/doj-races-find-source-leaked-pe
ntagon-documents

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:31 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I stopped reading at the byline because everybody knows Max Boot is a neocon 'tard.

I noticed that SECOND and THUGR are avoiding that whole "leaked top secret Pentagon docs show Kiev in poor position for spring offensive" topic. ... or anything tainted with actual facts

Did you notice that they always post OPINION?
Who are they trying to kid?

DOJ Races To Find Source of Leaked Pentagon Documents
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/doj-races-find-source-leaked-pe
ntagon-documents

If I post facts, you call them lies. Here is the truth: everyone I know who shares your opinions/your version of facts about reality are people who created for themselves unnecessarily difficult lives. I assume your life is as messy as theirs. I attribute their unfortunate lives to being crazy / having difficult personalities / generalized lack of wisdom when they make major decisions. All of this also describes Russia, which has an economy smaller than Canada. None of that means anything to you, but just imagine if Canada was a person as obnoxious as Russia. Canada could cause major problems in the world and, especially, in the US.

Getting back to those messy people, they tend to have short lives full of failures and heartbreak and blame Biden for it. Trump will save them, they claim. I'm expecting Russians will be feeling their own misfortune in Ukraine, this year and next, and blaming it all on Biden. If only Trump had been President, Ukraine would have been an easy conquest.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:38 AM (P)

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SECOND: I assume your life is as messy as theirs.

You know what they say about assumptions SECOND: they make an "ass" out of "u" and "me". Well, maybe you, bc I'm.not the one making assumptions.

As usual SECOND, I get about one or two sentences into your post and then I trip over something so egregiously stupid I stop.

Save yourself some time: limit your replies to one or two sentences bc the rest is just shit-canned.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:58 AM (P)

Ukraine gives Russia two options: Leave Crimea peacefully or be ready for battle

Politico reports:

Ukraine has not changed its plans for the return of territory occupied by Russia, including Crimea.

“Ukraine will choose the way to bring Crimea back, using political and military means,” Tamila Tasheva, the Ukrainian president’s envoy on Crimea, told POLITICO.

“To minimize Ukrainian military losses, minimize threats to civilians who live in occupied territories, as well as the destruction of civilian infrastructure, Ukraine plans to give Russia a choice on how to leave Crimea. If they don’t agree to leave voluntarily, Ukraine will continue to liberate its land by military means,” Tasheva added.

Her comments come after Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the president’s office, gave an interview to the Financial Times in which he said Ukraine might be ready to discuss the future of Crimea with Moscow if Kyiv succeeds in achieving its strategic goals on the battlefield.

“We are ready to open a diplomatic page to discuss this issue,” Sybiha said in the interview, referring to Kyiv’s long-planned counteroffensive. “It doesn’t mean that we exclude the way of liberation [of Crimea] by our army.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-russia-crimea-war-peace-volody
myr-zelenskyy/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 1:32 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Ukraine gives...

= shitcan

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:06 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Ukraine gives...

= shitcan

Russian Ka-52 Helicopter Obliterated in 'Edelweiss' Brigade Strike

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ka52-attack-helicopter-ukraine-losses-
1792905

A Russian Ka-52 combat helicopter was shot down by Ukrainian forces near the fiercely contested city of Bakhmut, according to Ukraine's military.

The "Alligator" Ka-52 combat scout-attack helicopter "was shot down during an airstrike attempt on our positions," Ukraine's "Edelweiss" 10th separate mountain assault brigade wrote on Facebook on Wednesday. This was confirmed by Serhiy Cherevatyi, a spokesperson for Ukraine's East Grouping of Forces, Ukrainian outlet Ukrainska Pravda reported.

The helicopter was brought down using the Piorun MANPADS, a portable air-defense system, Cherevatyi said.

Newsweek has reached out to the Russian defense ministry for comment via email.

The Kamov Ka-52 is one of Russia's prized attack helicopters. The twin-seat, all-weather attack aircraft is a "highly upgraded version" of the earlier model Ka-50, according to the U.S. military. It can fire anti-tank missiles, air-to-air guided missiles, and be fitted with a 30-millimeter armament.

The Ka-52 can "execute any combat task with high efficiency," according to Russian state military exporter Rosoboronexport. It has coaxial main rotors and a modernized avionics suite, traveling at a maximum speed of approximately 186 miles per hour.

It's designed to destroy tanks, military vehicles, aircraft and manpower, including on the front lines, Rosoboronexport said.

Ukraine has previously publicized reports of downed Russian Ka-52 helicopters, and its General Staff said in an update on Thursday that Moscow had lost 292 helicopters since the start of the invasion. However, this tally doesn't specify the number of Ka-52 aircraft lost, and Ukraine's counts typically come in higher than many Western estimates.

Although Russia started its invasion of Ukraine with around 100 Ka-52 helicopters, according to Forbes, one count suggests it has now lost around one-third of its "Alligator" day-and-night attack helicopters, as of Thursday.

Russia has lost 33 Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopters since February 24, 2022, according to a count by Dutch open-source outlet Oryx, which visually confirms military losses in Ukraine.

By October 25, 2022, Russia had lost at least 23 Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopters, which represented "nearly half of Russia's total helicopter losses in Ukraine," the British defense ministry wrote on Twitter.

The losses were likely linked to Ukraine's use of MANPADS, and Russian commanders appeared to be turning to "high-risk attack helicopter missions" to back up its troops, the ministry added.

Back in January, Ukraine's air force said Kyiv's military had shot down three Ka-52 helicopters in just 30 minutes. The aircraft had been flying over the disputed Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine, the air force said in a post shared to Twitter.

Karolina Hird, a Russia analyst with the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War think tank, previously told Newsweek that the Ka-52 is an "effective attack helicopter that is generally comparable to the U.S. AH-64 Apache."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:16 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Ukraine gives...

= shitcan
Russian Ka-52 Helicopter Obliterated in 'Edelweiss' Brigade Strike
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ka52-attack-helicopter-ukraine-losses-
1792905
A Russian Ka-52 combat helicopter was shot down by Ukrainian forces near the fiercely contested city of Bakhmut, according to Ukraine's military.

= shitcan

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:22 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
= shitcan
= shitcan

Ukraine Drone Scores Direct Hit on Russian Commander, Video Shows
By Ellie Cook On 4/10/23 at 8:56 AM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-strike-russia-commander-video-1
793398

Footage posted online appears to show a Ukrainian drone striking a commander in a Russian infantry fighting vehicle.

In a clip posted to Reddit, a grenade appears to be dropped on a Russian BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle from a height, purportedly filmed from the perspective of a drone operator.

The vehicle's operators can then be seen emerging from the vehicle and attempting to leave the vicinity of the attack.

The clip may be linked to Ukraine's 72nd mechanized brigade, according to a description appearing at the beginning of the excerpt.

Newsweek could not independently verify the location or veracity of the clip, nor when it was recorded.

Newsweek has reached out to the defense ministries of Ukraine and Russia for comment and to Ukraine's General Staff of the Armed Forces regarding the clip's authenticity.

Russia's BMP amphibious tracked infantry fighting vehicle comes in several iterations, based on the BMP-1. The upgraded BMP-2 and the later BMP-3 feature modernized systems, with the BMP-3 combining "the best of an infantry fighting vehicle, tank destroyer, fire support vehicle, and amphibious personnel carrier," according to Russian state military exporter, Rosoboronexport. It has a top road speed of around 43 miles per hour, and a cruising range of approximately 370 miles, the state defense company said.

The BMP-3 is equipped with a 100mm cannon-missile launcher, 30mm automatic cannon, and 7.62mm machine gun, as well as machine guns fitted to the hull.

According to Dutch open-source military tracking outlet Oryx, Russia has lost a total of 2,286 infantry fighting vehicles—including 1,478 destroyed and 610 captured vehicles—as of Monday. Of these, 374 BMP-1 variants have been lost, as well as several hundred BMP-2 and 249 BMP-3 vehicles. However, the outlet only registers visually-confirmed losses, so the total figure may be higher.

Ukraine's authorities frequently share footage of attacks, including drone strikes recorded through unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). Drone clips that surfaced last June also showed Ukrainian UAVs targeting a Russian BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicle.

Earlier this month, Ukraine's military shared a video of a soldier targeting a Russian tank using a U.S.-made Javelin anti-tank missile. In late March, Ukrainian forces posted footage of a drone taking out a Russian-TOR-M2 missile system.

Drones have taken on a prominent role in the Ukraine war for both Moscow and Kyiv's forces.

"They are the super weapon here," Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Ukraine's minister of internal affairs, told Newsweek in February. "This war is a war of drones," he added.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:26 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I stopped reading at the byline because everybody knows Max Boot is a neocon 'tard.

I noticed that SECOND and THUGR are avoiding that whole "leaked top secret Pentagon docs show Kiev in poor position for spring offensive" topic. ... or anything tainted with actual facts

Did you notice that they always post OPINION?
Who are they trying to kid?

DOJ Races To Find Source of Leaked Pentagon Documents
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/doj-races-find-source-leaked-pe
ntagon-documents

Not avoiding anything comrade. My hesitancy to believe the documents story is true, is because we did the same thing during World war 2 to great success. Time will tell if it is true or not.

T

THG

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:30 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh BTW SECOND whenever I delve into your "Putin says/ some random member of the Duma says/ some random Russian commentator says" posts, I find - in the first para or so- the headlines misquote take out of context, or completely fabricate shit. Not going to do a point-by-point refutation bc, really, it's not worth my time. Just a general observation that they're written by droids who can't even lie without tripping over themselves.

T

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 4:22 AM (P)

THUGR: - not according to Russia.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 4:24 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
= shitcan
= shitcan
Ukraine Drone Scores Direct Hit on Russian Commander, Video Shows
By Ellie Cook On 4/10/23 at 8:56 AM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-strike-russia-commander-video-1
793398

Footage posted online appears to show a Ukrainian drone striking a commander in a Russian infantry fighting vehicle.

In a clip posted to Reddit, a grenade appears to be

= shitcanned.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 4:30 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR: - not according to Russia.

Russian economic statistics are a collection of lies and distortions. They are meant to convince people at home that their economy is chugging along despite the war, and people abroad that Western economic sanctions don’t work and therefore should be rescinded. Many international economists, including official organizations, have bought into this type of Russian propaganda.

During the Cold War, the CIA concluded, using Soviet statistics, that the Soviet Union had the world’s second-largest economy whose size and production capabilities rivaled those of the United States. But when communism collapsed, Russia’s economy turned out to be not much larger than Portugal’s.

Statistics in contemporary Russia are equally deceptive.

https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/opinion/article-738731

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 4:36 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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= shitcan
= shitcan
= shitcanned.

These Russians have been shitcanned because they refused to pay attention to reality all around them:

Grenade Detonates as Russian Troops Huddle Together, Video Shows
By Ellie Cook On 4/10/23 at 11:07 AM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-grenade-detonate-russia-troops-video-
1793416

Footage of a grenade detonating after being launched at Russian troops which appears to have been captured by a Ukrainian drone is circulating online.

The video shows a grenade being dropped from above a group of soldiers, described as Russian troops "huddled next to their vehicle." An explosion occurs, with the figures visibly moving following the detonation. Newsweek could not independently verify the source or the provenance of the video, although it appears to have been posted at one point by a Russian-language Telegram channel for war footage.

Footage of the war in Ukraine has long circulated online, including clips posted by Russia and Ukraine's militaries. Video recorded by Ukrainian drones, targeting Russian vehicles and military equipment, are frequently posted by social media channels belonging to Ukraine's military.

The Supernova+ Telegram account indicated that the grenade in the latest footage was a "VOG," apparently suggesting it is a high explosive grenade-launched VOG-25. Newsweek could not verify this claim.

Newsweek reached out to Ukraine's and Russia's defense ministries and the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces via email for comment.

In an operational update on Monday morning, Ukraine's General Staff said Russian forces had launched 26 air strikes and four missile strikes on Ukrainian territory overnight. S-300 missiles were launched to the east and the south of Ukraine, it said.

Russia's "main efforts" were concentrated on the Donetsk settlements on Lyman, Bakhmut, Avdiivska and Maryinka, it added, saying Ukrainian forces fended off 58 attacks in these areas on Sunday.

More than 290 Ukrainian troops were killed in the Donetsk direction, the Russian defense ministry said on Monday, adding that 11 Ukrainian drones had been downed in the east of the country over the past day.

Long-touted plans for a Ukrainian spring counteroffensive continue to make the headlines, although Ukrainian officials have largely refrained from offering up details on Kyiv's military plans in recent weeks.

Earlier this month, leaked documents appearing to detail Kyiv's requirements and NATO analyses of Ukraine's capabilities for a planned counteroffensive circulated online, prompting a Pentagon investigation. Ukraine's top officials dismissed the documents as false, but said they would focus on "measures to prevent the leakage of information regarding the plans" of Kyiv's military.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told European media last week that a counteroffensive was expected in "the coming weeks," which the Kremlin then said its military had noted. The Washington-based Institute for the Study of War think tank suggested on Sunday that Russia could propose an Orthodox Easter ceasefire later this month to delay a Ukrainian counteroffensive, which the Kremlin denied.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 4:49 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR: - not according to Russia.
Russian economic statistics are a collection of lies and distortions. They are meant to convince people at home that their economy is chugging along despite the war, and people abroad that Western economic sanctions don’t work and therefore should be rescinded. Many international economists, including official organizations, have bought into this type of Russian propaganda.

During the Cold War, the CIA concluded, using Soviet statistics, that the Soviet Union had the world’s second-largest economy whose size and production capabilities rivaled those of the United States. But when communism collapsed, Russia’s economy turned out to be not much larger than Portugal’s.

Statistics in contemporary Russia are equally deceptive.

https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/opinion/article-738731

No matter what the topic, comrade signym posts what she wishes to be true. I take great pleasure in the fact that what she wishes to be true, never is.

Another way to say it is, she never gets what she wants. Too funny...

T

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 5:05 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

No matter what the topic, comrade signym posts what she wishes to be true. I take great pleasure in the fact that what she wishes to be true, never is.

Expanding on that thought reveals, what she wants she never gets. Too funny...

T

The North Koreans and the Russians share a trait: they cannot stop bragging about how well their economies are doing compared to their enemies. According to North Korea, South Korea is a slum. According to statistics, North Korea is delusional. Russia has also been living under the same delusions as North Korea: nuclear weapons make the country prosperous, proud, and mighty compared to its enemies. The Russians and the North Koreans are missing out on much of life because they eat, sleep, and work with a steady diet of lies to keep them going. It is a very unhealthy way to live, which is reflected in their shortened lifespans compared to neighboring countries.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 5:36 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

No matter what the topic, comrade signym posts what she wishes to be true. I take great pleasure in the fact that what she wishes to be true, never is.

Expanding on that thought reveals, what she wants she never gets. Too funny...

T
The North Koreans and the Russians share a trait: they cannot stop bragging about how well their economies are doing compared to their enemies. According to North Korea, South Korea is a slum. According to statistics, North Korea is delusional. Russia has also been living under the same delusions as North Korea: nuclear weapons make the country prosperous, proud, and mighty compared to its enemies. The Russians and the North Koreans are missing out on much of life because they eat, sleep, and work with a steady diet of lies to keep them going. It is a very unhealthy way to live, which is reflected in their shortened lifespans compared to neighboring countries.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

That, and how much they drink.

T

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 6:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

That, and how much they drink.

T

Boris Yeltsin, who chose Putin, was a drunken fool: “Secret Service agents discovered Yeltsin alone on Pennsylvania Avenue, dead drunk, clad in his underwear, yelling for a taxi.” - https://www.history.com/news/bill-clinton-boris-yeltsin-drunk-1994-rus
sian-state-visit

Putin is moderate compared to Yeltsin: 'Emotional' Putin reflected on life in German 'paradise' drinking 3 litres of beer a week
Vladimir Putin adored his life in Germany during the final few years of the Cold War, drinking copious amounts of beer and pouring over Western shopping catalogues.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1752678/putin-kgb-officer-germany
-spt

No surprise when bucket heads Yeltsin and Putin went berserk and killed people by the hundreds of thousands, possibly while drunk with the power to do what felt good.

How did Putin end up at the top? Bizarrely: As the Kremlin clock ticked down the final minutes of the 1990s, a dour-faced representative of that “new generation” appeared before the nation as Russia’s acting president. “Like you, I intended this evening to listen to the New Year greetings of President Boris Yeltsin,” said Vladimir Putin, the former state security service chief who had been named prime minister just four months earlier. “But things turned out otherwise.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-russia-20-years-on-anni
versary/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 9:25 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I stopped reading at the byline because everybody knows Max Boot is a neocon 'tard.

I noticed that SECOND and THUGR are avoiding that whole "leaked top secret Pentagon docs show Kiev in poor position for spring offensive" topic. ... or anything tainted with actual facts

I'm wondering if it's because they're in denial or because their extremely limited sources of "news" just aren't reporting on it at all.

Quote:
Did you notice that they always post OPINION?
Who are they trying to kid?

Yes. Always.

They don't watch news. They watch propaganda and editorialism. Period.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 5:21 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I stopped reading at the byline because everybody knows Max Boot is a neocon 'tard.

I noticed that SECOND and THUGR are avoiding that whole "leaked top secret Pentagon docs show Kiev in poor position for spring offensive" topic. ... or anything tainted with actual facts

I'm wondering if it's because they're in denial or because their extremely limited sources of "news" just aren't reporting on it at all.

If Kyiv knows it truly is in a poor position for a spring offensive, Kyiv better wait until it is in a better position.

But Kyiv hasn't been sharing everything with the Pentagon because it knows that the US military consists mostly of violent incompetent weirdos like Trump's first National Security Adviser General Michael Flynn. That guy couldn't be trusted around secrets.

1) Former Trump adviser Michael Flynn ‘at the center’ of new movement based on conspiracies and Christian nationalism
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-trump-adviser-michael-fly
nn-at-the-center-of-new-movement-based-on-conspiracies-and-christian-nationalism

2) The U.S. Army increasingly lets soldiers charged with violent crimes leave the military rather than face trial
https://www.propublica.org/article/military-army-administrative-separa
tion

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 5:22 PM (P)

Wagner forces are reportedly continuing to commit war crimes by beheading Ukrainian servicemen in Bakhmut. Russian social media users published footage purportedly showing the remains of a head belonging to a Ukrainian serviceman on a spike at an unspecified area in Bakhmut.[55] Social media users recalled similar instances of skulls mounted on spikes in Popasna, Luhansk Oblast, where Wagner troops operated over spring–summer of 2022.[56] The Geneva Convention prohibits the mutilation and despoilment of dead bodies in war.[57]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-10-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Tuesday, April 11, 2023 5:23 PM (P)

Russian officials and occupation authorities continue to deport children to Russia under the guise of medical, rehabilitation, and voluntary evacuation schemes. The Ukrainian Office of the General Prosecutor issued a notice of suspicion against a Crimea-based businesswoman under accusations that she has helped deport 1,000 Ukrainian children and 64 guardians to Sevastopol, Crimea, under the guise of tourism and voluntary evacuation.[66] Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) Ambassador to Russia Rodion Miroshnik claimed on April 10 that Russia has returned 10 Ukrainian children and their mothers to Horlivka, Luhansk Oblast, after they reportedly received medical treatment at the Klyazma sanitorium in Moscow Oblast.[67] Ukrainian news outlet Suspilne Novosti on April 10 shared the story of a 16-year-old boy whom Russian forces had illegally transported to a political re-education camp after he had spent two weeks resting at the “Dream” sanatorium in Yevpatoria, Crimea.[68] Suspilne Novosti amplified reports that Russian occupation authorities continue to brainwash Ukrainian children at re-education camps in Russia, coercing them to abandon their Ukrainian identity and instead show pro-Russia sentiment.[69] LNR head Leonid Pasechnik claimed on April 9 that occupation authorities have conducted professional medical evaluations on more than 94,000 Ukrainian children in occupied Luhansk Oblast, thousands of whom Russian occupation officials have since deported to Russia for medical treatment.[70] Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereschuk stated on April 10 that Russia is illegally holding 4,396 deported Ukrainian children in Russia and announced that Ukraine is forming an international coalition to return the children to Ukraine.[71]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-10-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

THG

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 1:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I stopped reading at the byline because everybody knows Max Boot is a neocon 'tard.

I noticed that SECOND and THUGR are avoiding that whole "leaked top secret Pentagon docs show Kiev in poor position for spring offensive" topic. ... or anything tainted with actual facts

Did you notice that they always post OPINION?
Who are they trying to kid?

DOJ Races To Find Source of Leaked Pentagon Documents
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/doj-races-find-source-leaked-pe
ntagon-documents

Not avoiding anything comrade. My hesitancy to believe the documents story is true, is because we did the same thing during World war 2 to great success. Time will tell if it is true or not.

Bombshell Rumor: Russia’s Top General Plans To ‘Throw’ War While Putin Has Chemo, Leaked Docs State

One slide in particular insinuates that Russia National Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev and Chief of the General Staff Valeriy Gerasimov are planning to pull back on the war while Putin gets cancer treatment.

The document about "throwing" the war was marked (TS//SI//REL TO USA, FVEY/FISA), which means it is top secret and should only be available to the United States or the other "Five Eyes" countries, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and the United Kingdom.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bombshell-rumor-russia-s-top-gene
ral-plans-to-throw-war-while-putin-has-chemo-leaked-docs-state/ar-AA19Jmbt?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9cbaa4129d304144ef4d2a5c5a076fba&ei=92

Update comrade. What do you think? Still believe the leaked documents are factual?

T

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 2:28 AM (P)

THUGR: The documents themselves are legitimate. The information they contain is of mixed quality.

For example, there is an assessment of Kiev's air defenses (will run out of anti-air missiles by May 30) which depends a bit on what Kiev has told them, since I can't imagine NATO being able to take a reliable inventory.

There is a list of which nations are training which portions of the troops reserved for this big offensive... something that FVEY and NATO control and therefore have good info.

And then there is this (from your article)

Quote:
That slide is said to have been containing information from a Ukraine official who has a source with access to Kremlin officials.

Yeah. Right.

Anything... and I mean ANYTHING... coming from Kiev is tainted, and should be mentally warehoused until it's confirmed by events or by another, unconnected source.

Dood, this is an example of what I've been trying to tell you: you have to be your own analyst. Consider the source's reliability and bias. See if it makes sense. "Cui bono?" and "Why now?"

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 2:33 AM (P)

Russia moves to tighten conscription law, pressing more men to fight
Robyn Dixon

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/04/11/russia-conscription-mi
litary-mobilization-war/

RIGA, Latvia — When Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a mobilization in the fall to commandeer reinforcements for the war against Ukraine, thousands of men fled the country or went into hiding. But tough new measures approved by Russia’s lower house of parliament on Tuesday will make it almost impossible for Russians to dodge conscription in the future.

The law provides for electronic military summonses with bans on draftees leaving the country, making it possible to quietly sweep up thousands more men to fight — even as the Kremlin is denying plans for a controversial new mobilization.

The State Duma, which is the lower chamber, approved the legislation with just one abstention. The upper house, the Federation Council, is expected to adopt it Wednesday, and send it on to Putin for his approval, which is widely expected.

Last year’s chaotic mobilization — in which military officers were obliged to physically hand out paper notices — created scenes of young men being grabbed from the streets and at subway stations, or wrestled to the ground in shopping malls. In some cases, passersby filmed men fleeing military officials.

Under the new rules, electronic summonses will be issued to conscripts under Russia’s compulsory military service for men ages 18 to 27, but also potentially to members of the Russian military reserve and others. Under Russian law, conscripts must not be deployed to Ukraine, however complaints have surfaced that in some cases they have been sent there and killed in action.

Andrei Kartopolov, head of the State Duma defense committee, spelled out tough penalties for those who do not respond to electronic summonses, including potential bans on driving, registering a company, working as a self-employed individual, obtaining credit or loans, selling apartments, buying property or securing social benefits. These penalties could apply to the thousands of men who are already outside the country.

The electronic summons will be issued via a government services portal, Gosuslugi, used for all manner of state payments and services including taxes, passports, housing services, social benefits, transport documents, medical appointments, employee insurance and countless other matters.

Under the law, personal data of conscripts including identity documents, personal tax numbers, driver’s license details, phone numbers and other information will be transferred by Gosuslugi to military enlistment offices. Universities, business employers, hospitals and clinics, government ministries, law enforcement agencies, the electoral commission and the tax authority are also required to transmit data to the military.

With the Kremlin anxious to avoid unpopular mobilization measures, the new rules highlight Russia’s need for more military personnel, after a largely ineffective winter offensive that gained little ground despite high casualties, and ahead of an expected new Ukrainian counteroffensive ahead.

As the Kremlin prepares Russians for a long war, the need to continually reconstitute depleted Russian military units could drag on for years.

Russia’s Ministry of Defense has recently recruited hundreds of prisoners on 18-month contracts to fight in the war, according to Russia Behind Bars, a prisoners’ rights group, after the Wagner mercenary group was blocked from recruiting in jails.

The military has also been offering Russian passports to foreigners who join the Russian armed forces and has been running a voluntary recruitment campaign.

In December, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu announced plans to increase the size of Russia’s military by 30 percent to 1.5 million servicemen, including 695,000 volunteer contract soldiers.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the new law is “absolutely necessary” but added that it is not connected with the mobilization of more Russian men to fight in the war.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 2:37 AM (P)

Yanno, the USA was defeated in Afghanistan, and fought to a standstill in Iraq, Syria. Militarily defied by Iran and Russia.
And yet you persist in the delusion that the USA has this big unstoppable military.

Will you admit your mistake when NATO gets its ass handed to it in Ukraine? Or will you continue to deny reality?

One way I see the war in Ukraine ending is that Zelenskiy flees Ukraine and sets up a "government in exile". That way NATO/USA doesn't have to surrender or acknowledge defeat, and they can do a gentle PR glide to memory-holing the Ukraine clusterfuck.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 4:17 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, the USA was defeated in Afghanistan, and fought to a standstill in Iraq, Syria. Militarily defied by Iran and Russia.
And yet you persist in the delusion that the USA has this big unstoppable military.

The USA DOES have a big, unstoppable military.

Failure after Failure is a feature... not a bug.

Quote:
Will you admit your mistake when NATO gets its ass handed to it in Ukraine? Or will you continue to deny reality?

One way I see the war in Ukraine ending is that Zelenskiy flees Ukraine and sets up a "government in exile". That way NATO/USA doesn't have to surrender or acknowledge defeat, and they can do a gentle PR glide to memory-holing the Ukraine clusterfuck.

Ukraine is fucked. Ukraine was always fucked.

$130 Billion from the US so far, and god knows how much wasted money and ordinance from the rest of the civilized world completely gone to waste and laundered so the Oligarchs can have an ever-increasing size of the pie in this zero-sum game we live in.

We could have ended world hunger for 2.5 years with the money the US has pissed away so far in Ukraine.

Fuck Joe Biden. Fuck Democrats. Fuck NeoCons. Fuck the Uniparty. Fuck the complicit Media. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck child rapist Zelensky.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 5:39 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, the USA was defeated in Afghanistan, and fought to a standstill in Iraq, Syria. Militarily defied by Iran and Russia.
And yet you persist in the delusion that the USA has this big unstoppable military.

Will you admit your mistake when NATO gets its ass handed to it in Ukraine? Or will you continue to deny reality?

One way I see the war in Ukraine ending is that Zelenskiy flees Ukraine and sets up a "government in exile". That way NATO/USA doesn't have to surrender or acknowledge defeat, and they can do a gentle PR glide to memory-holing the Ukraine clusterfuck.

Alternatively, Putin could claim that he killed millions of Nazis in Ukraine, destroyed $trillions in Nazi property, shut down the Nazis' electricity, and withdraw from Nazi Ukraine as the victor! Russians will accept whatever lie Putin wants to tell them, especially if they will be thrown into the Army if they don't believe Putin's stories:

Russia Moves to Digitize Military Summons, Prevent Conscripts from Fleeing Amid Fears of New Draft
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/11/russia-moves-to-digitize-mil
itary-summons-prevent-conscripts-from-fleeing-amid-fears-of-new-draft-a80786

Russia Lost 1.3M Young Workers in 2022 – Research
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/11/russia-lost-13m-young-worker
s-in-2022-research-a80784
Where did 1.3 million workers go? Off to war or left Russia because they did not want to go to war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:49 AM (P)

Big Serge has a detailed summary of those leaked documents

Here it is, edited for brevity

Quote:

Apr 10, 2023
Author’s Note: I had been intending to publish an article on Soviet operational art this week, but the emergence of the leaks diverted my attention and led to this article instead. We’ll return to military history shortly.

Another winter has ended, and spring has again arisen on the war in Ukraine. Amid the thaw and attendant mud, Russian forces - including the indominable Wagner Group - have pushed the Ukrainian grouping in Bakhmut to the brink, with the AFU now clinging its last defensive toehold in the city. Bakhmut has become the largest battle of the 21st century, and is now entering its climactic phase.

Nevertheless, battlefield developments have been upstaged to some extent by the apparent leak of classified US military intelligence documents which provide a sweeping view into the inner workings of the Pentagon’s war.

... The general impression is that an American folded the briefing documents up, put them in his/her/their/xer/xem/plur pocket (the American military is a Diverse and Inclusive institution, and the leaker could have any, all, or no gender), took the pages home and photographed them. It was almost certainly not a Russian asset - if the documents had been acquired by Russian intelligence, they would have kept it internal.

... The most significant implication of the documents is simple: Ukraine’s combat power is significantly degraded, and in particular their mechanized units and artillery forces are in very rough shape.

The relevant material here in particular is a page entitled “US Allied & Partner UAF Combat Power Build”... The plan calls for a force of twelve nominal brigades, nine of which will be equipped by NATO and three internally generated by the Ukrainians. The leak does not offer insight into the three Ukrainian brigades, but the intended complement of the nine NATO brigades is meticulously listed).

All told, the combat power build calls for these brigades to field a total of 253 tanks, 381 Infantry Fighting Vehicles, 480 Armored Personnel Carriers, and 147 artillery pieces. This implies that these will be brigades in name only, and will in fact be far understrength. Parceling these systems out across nine brigades will give an average strength of a mere 28 tanks per brigade, along with some 95 IFVs/APCs and 16 artillery tubes. Compare this to a US Army Armored Brigade Combat Team, which would have almost 90 tanks and almost 200 IFVs/APCs. An American Stryker Brigade (a lighter, rapidly deployable formation) would have about 300 Strykers - the Ukrainian 82nd Brigade is listed to receive only 90.

In combat power terms, therefore, these new brigades are going to be far understrength. Their tank strength, far from being full brigade level, amounts to less than an American armored battalion.

Another key aspect of the force build document is the training schedules. This document dates from the beginning of March, at which point five of the nine brigades were listed at “Training 0% Complete”. Only one of the brigades was more than halfway trained, rated at 60% complete. Despite this, six out of nine were scheduled to be ready by the end of March and the remainders by the end of April. This can only be achieved with significantly truncated training times, and these are detailed in the document. Leopard tank training, for example, is listed at only six weeks. Just for context, American tankers can pencil in 22 weeks of training for the Abrams.

The overall picture, therefore, is rather foreboding for Ukraine. The leaked documents do not give us insight into the three brigades that Ukraine is expected to generate with their indigenous assets, but the nine NATO trained and equipped brigades are slated to be significantly understrength and manned by personnel who are receiving a hugely accelerated training course. These brigades will almost certainly need to be de

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:08 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Big Serge has a detailed summary of those leaked documents

Here it is, edited for brevity . . .

More at Big Sege substack

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Signym, your editing can’t be trusted because your Henry Kissinger quote got "edited" until it meant the opposite of what he said. It is like "editing" or removing a NOT from a sentence would reverse the meaning. Here is what Kissinger actually said:

Henry Kissinger said in November 1968, after Richard Nixon was elected U.S. president but before he took office: “Nixon should be told that it is probably an objective of Clifford to depose Thieu (South Vietnamese president Nguyen Van Thieu—ed.) before Nixon is inaugurated. Word should be gotten to Nixon that if Thieu meets the same fate as Diem, the word will go out to the nations of the world that it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.”

The quotation referred to America’s role in Vietnam. If America doesn’t stand by its friends and allies, the quotation explains, then it might ultimately be less dangerous to be America’s enemy.

Much more at
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/it_may_be_dan
gerous_to_be_americas_enemy_but_to_be_americas_friend_is_fatal

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:15 PM (P)

The Kremlin passed legislation to use tools of digital authoritarianism to digitize and improve the effectiveness of issuing summonses and crack down on Russian draft dodgers.

The Russian State Duma adopted a bill in its third reading on April 11 to create a digital unified register of Russian citizens eligible for military service.[1] Russian military recruitment offices will use the digital register to issue summonses to military service. The unified register harvests Russian citizens’ personal identification information—including medical, educational, and residence history, foreign citizenship status, and insurance and tax data—from multiple Russian legal entities, including Russia’s Federal Tax Service, investigative bodies, courts, medical institutions, the Russian Pension and Social Insurance Fund, the Central Election Commission, and federal and local authorities.[2]

Summoned individuals may not leave Russia and must appear at a military recruitment office within 20 days of being summoned. The law bans summoned individuals who are 20 days delinquent for reporting from driving vehicles, buying or selling real estate, and taking out loans.

A senior Russian legislator stated that the law will correct some of the bureaucratic shortcomings that appeared during Russia’s partial mobilization in September 2022.[3]

Some Russian milbloggers who have long agitated for more aggressive force generation policies praised the law and stated that it exemplifies healthy interactions between Russian civil society and government.[4]

ISW previously forecasted that the Kremlin would marry Soviet-style societal control measures with big data and 21st-century information technology to intensify control over the Russian population after Russia used facial recognition, QR codes, and mobile device geo-tracking technology to enforce a draconian COVID-19 quarantine in 2020.[5]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-11-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:30 PM (P)

How strong is US-Ukraine wartime alliance? What the leaks reveal.
Howard LaFranchi

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2023/0411/How-strong-is-U
S-Ukraine-wartime-alliance-What-the-leaks-reveal

The extraordinary cache of recent and highly sensitive U.S. intelligence documents leaked online offers a window into the U.S.-Ukraine relationship that has been forged by more than a year of war. And not just any war, but one that has morphed into the front lines of what the Biden administration portrays as a defining battle between democracy and autocracy.

Amid such high stakes, the leaks underscore significant cooperation – including how U.S. assistance has moved well beyond providing crucial weaponry to advising the Ukrainians on the optimal targeting of Russian forces.

Leaked U.S. intelligence documents indicate close coordination between Washington and Kyiv in the latter’s war with Russia, but there are limits. Experts point to Ukraine’s innate distrust of great powers, even friendly ones. The leaks won’t help.

But mixed in is also a fair dose of mutual wariness. Matthew Schmidt, an expert at the University of New Haven, says Kyiv “has never trusted the U.S.” with running the war for them.

The timing of the leaks is particularly problematic for Kyiv, which is preparing its crucial spring counteroffensive.

“So much is riding on the success of this offensive,” says Rajan Menon, a director at Defense Priorities, a Washington think tank. It should surprise no one, he says, that officials in Kyiv are probably even more secretive now.

“If I were in the Ukrainians’ place,” he adds, “I would be just as careful about revealing sensitive information, no matter who the recipient is.”

The extraordinary cache of recent and highly sensitive U.S. intelligence documents that have appeared these last weeks on social media sites and gaming chatrooms – largely focused on military and diplomatic aspects of the war in Ukraine – includes revelations on friend and foe alike.

In the “foe” column, the leaks include precise and timely details of Russian war planning and suggest deep U.S. penetration into Russian decision-making centers, from the Kremlin to the mercenary Wagner Group.

But then there are the friends – and in particular, Ukraine.

The documents – about 100 pages of what appear to be photocopied (and sometimes altered) intelligence briefings and “secret” reports – also offer a window into the U.S.-Ukraine relationship that has been forged by more than a year of war.

And not just any war, but one that has morphed into the front lines of what President Joe Biden and his administration portray as a defining battle between democracy, national sovereignty, and the rule of international law on the one hand, and autocracy, outside domination, and the rule of the strongest on the other.

Amid such high international stakes, the leaked documents underscore a relationship of significant cooperation – especially notable considering the relatively short period of time over which the intense relations have developed.

For example, some of the leaked information suggests how U.S. assistance has moved well beyond simply providing crucial modern weaponry to advising the Ukrainians – sometimes on a daily basis based on sophisticated satellite imagery – on the optimal targeting of Russian forces and repositioning of Ukrainian forces to evade planned Russian attacks.

But mixed in with that impressive degree of cooperation is also a fair dose of mutual wariness – exemplified on the U.S. side by leaked revelations that Washington spies on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. That “news” drew grumblings and professions of disappointment from Kyiv, but analysts and some U.S. officials say no one should be surprised that the United States is managing its full-bore commitment to Ukraine on the basis of “trust but verify.”

Ukraine’s continuing wariness toward Washington – exemplified by what some U.S. officials describe as a frustrating opaqueness among some Ukrainian officials – has less

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 6:44 PM (P)

The Most Shocking Thing About This American Reporter’s Arrest in Russia

“Journalism is not a crime,” a State Department spokesman said of the young reporter’s arrest.

The problem is, in Vladimir Putin’s Russia, it often is a crime. In declaring Gershkovich a foreign spy, Putin may have been looking not for a token in a prisoner-exchange, but for an example to deter other reporters — foreign and domestic — from doing their jobs.

Russia has criminalized journalism for a decade. It’s surprising this has happened so rarely.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/evan-gershkovich-wrongfull
y-detained-in-russia.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Wednesday, April 12, 2023 9:16 PM (P)

"The leak is only damaging as the Biden administration allows it to be," said Dov S. Zakheim, a former undersecretary of defense in the Reagan administration. If the White House responds to the reports of Kyiv’s shortage of missiles and ammunition by "accelerating and expanding arms transfers to Ukraine, then they might prove useful to those who favor greater and faster American support for Kyiv."

In that case, he added, "the leaked reports of Ukraine’s weakness would be, by definition, OBE," he said, or "overtaken by events."

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/what-analysts-missing-leaked-pentagong
-documents-case

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 13, 2023 12:54 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Big Serge has a detailed summary of those leaked documents
Here it is, edited for brevity . . .
More at Big Serge substack.

SECOND: Signym, your editing can’t be trusted because your Henry Kissinger quote got "edited" until it meant the opposite of what he said.

Oh for fuck's sake, SECOND, If you don't like the EXTENSIVE quoting just go to Big Serge at substack. It's free.

And BTW, Kissinger meant exactly what it sounds like.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 13, 2023 3:31 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Most Shocking Thing About This American Reporter’s Arrest in Russia

“Journalism is not a crime,” a State Department spokesman said of the young reporter’s arrest.

Journalism is not a crime here either. Those of moderate intelligence in America are asking themselves why nobody here practices it. The really smart ones know that some do, but they are shunned by the bought and paid for Media and the stupid people.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SECOND

Thursday, April 13, 2023 4:58 PM (P)

Vladimir Kara-Murza’s last statement to Russian court: A reckoning will come

At the closing session of his trial in Moscow, Vladimir Kara-Murza** delivered these remarks:

Members of the court: I was sure, after two decades spent in Russian politics, after all that I have seen and experienced, that nothing can surprise me anymore. I must admit that I was wrong. I’ve been surprised by the extent to which my trial, in its secrecy and its contempt for legal norms, has surpassed even the “trials” of Soviet dissidents in the 1960s and ’70s. And that’s not even to mention the harshness of the sentence requested by the prosecution or the talk of “enemies of the state.” In this respect, we’ve gone beyond the 1970s — all the way back to the 1930s. For me, as a historian, this is an occasion for reflection.

At one point during my testimony, the presiding judge reminded me that one of the extenuating circumstances was “remorse for what [the accused] has done.” And although there is little that’s amusing about my present situation, I could not help smiling: The criminal, of course, must repent of his deeds. I’m in jail for my political views. For speaking out against the war in Ukraine. For many years of struggle against Vladimir Putin’s dictatorship. For facilitating the adoption of personal international sanctions under the Magnitsky Act against human rights violators.

Not only do I not repent of any of this, I am proud of it. I am proud that Boris Nemtsov brought me into politics. And I hope that he is not ashamed of me. I subscribe to every word that I have spoken and every word of which I have been accused by this court. I blame myself for only one thing: that over the years of my political activity I have not managed to convince enough of my compatriots and enough politicians in the democratic countries of the danger that the current regime in the Kremlin poses for Russia and for the world. Today this is obvious to everyone, but at a terrible price — the price of war.

In their last statements to the court, defendants usually ask for an acquittal. For a person who has not committed any crimes, acquittal would be the only fair verdict. But I do not ask this court for anything. I know the verdict. I knew it a year ago when I saw people in black uniforms and black masks running after my car in the rearview mirror. Such is the price for speaking up in Russia today.

But I also know that the day will come when the darkness over our country will dissipate. When black will be called black and white will be called white; when at the official level it will be recognized that two times two is still four; when a war will be called a war, and a usurper a usurper; and when those who kindled and unleashed this war, rather than those who tried to stop it, will be recognized as criminals.

This day will come as inevitably as spring follows even the coldest winter. And then our society will open its eyes and be horrified by what terrible crimes were committed on its behalf. From this realization, from this reflection, the long, difficult but vital path toward the recovery and restoration of Russia, its return to the community of civilized countries, will begin.

Even today, even in the darkness surrounding us, even sitting in this cage, I love my country and believe in our people. I believe that we can walk this path.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2023/04/12/vladimir-kara-murzas-last-
statement-to-russian-court-a-reckoning-will-come/

** Vladimir Kara-Murza is a Russian opposition politician and Post contributor who has been imprisoned in Moscow since April for speaking out against the war on Ukraine. He has been designated by Amnesty International as a prisoner of conscience.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 13, 2023 6:12 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Most Shocking Thing About This American Reporter’s Arrest in Russia

“Journalism is not a crime,” a State Department spokesman said of the young reporter’s arrest.

Unless you're Julian Assange. And then you will be held in a foreign jail (UK) on bogus charges (Sweden), and once THOSE charges are dropped you'll STILL be held, in maximum security, awaiting extradition to yet another country (USA).

Do these people even HEAR themselves?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 13, 2023 7:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Most Shocking Thing About This American Reporter’s Arrest in Russia

“Journalism is not a crime,” a State Department spokesman said of the young reporter’s arrest.
Unless you're Julian Assange. And then you will be held in a foreign jail (UK) on bogus charges (Sweden), and once THOSE charges are dropped you'll STILL be held, in maximum security, awaiting extradition to yet another country (USA).

Do these people even HEAR themselves?

Right?

It is beyond frustrating.

I can't even believe we're in the same genus, let alone species as these people.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SECOND

Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:13 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Most Shocking Thing About This American Reporter’s Arrest in Russia

“Journalism is not a crime,” a State Department spokesman said of the young reporter’s arrest.
Unless you're Julian Assange. And then you will be held in a foreign jail (UK) on bogus charges (Sweden), and once THOSE charges are dropped you'll STILL be held, in maximum security, awaiting extradition to yet another country (USA).

Do these people even HEAR themselves?

You have heard of Whataboutism? One of the favorite tactics of Russians? Never mind about Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich falsely arrested by Russians, but whatabout the crank Assange, the make-believe journalist? Ecuador lost patience with Assange's mental illness, bizarre self-delusions, and obnoxiousness, and turned him over to the police. But whatabout Assange? What about him? What about him? Assange is every bit as crazy a human being as Signym and 6ix are.

Apr 11, 2019: Julian Assange, Insane Homeless Man, being dragged from the Ecuadorian embassy

It has been four years but the lawyers cannot decide between releasing Assange or extraditing him. The dizzy lawyers go back and forth, unable to make a decision. The judge should flip a coin and let Assange's lawyer call heads or tails to decide where to send their client. Don't let Assange be there because no decision will be made while Assange, once again, makes even a coin flip into a circus of extended litigation.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:58 PM (P)

You dipshits loved Assange before he came after your beloved serial-murderer Hillary.

Get fucked, retard.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

SIGNYM

Thursday, April 13, 2023 11:17 PM (P)

Yep, SECOND, WHAT ABOUT OUR COUNTRY?

I mean, why do you clutch your pearls and shriek about RUSSIA!RUSSIA! but manage to ignore trampled freedoms in OUR country? Yanno, our nation that "promotes democracy and freedom"?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Friday, April 14, 2023 3:35 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yep, SECOND, WHAT ABOUT OUR COUNTRY?

I mean, why do you clutch your pearls and shriek about RUSSIA!RUSSIA! but manage to ignore trampled freedoms in OUR country? Yanno, our nation that "promotes democracy and freedom"?

I am very familiar with citizens who voted for Trump or continue to defend him. They were shouting lunatics before Trump got into politics. They struggle in life because they were always highly defective individuals attracted to defective politicians. They've got problems that they richly deserve because of how crooked and stupid and rotten they are as living examples of Matthew 7:3-5

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Friday, April 14, 2023 3:37 AM (P)

Russian TV Suggests Finland, Poland, Baltics Want to Rejoin 'Mother Russia'

Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov looked back to centuries past in claiming that Moscow's European neighbors wish to "rejoin the Russian empire."

On his evening show on the Russia 1 channel, Solovyov first said the "main Russophobes" are Poland and the Baltic nations.

"They have formed an alliance of the resentful former provinces liberated in vain by the Russian empire and say that they now have an alliance, they are now all together, Poland, the Baltics, the Finns. And Romania has been dragged into it," he said.

Solovyov harked back to this era of the Russian monarchy in asking whether the countries' real hope was for "Mother Russia to bring us back home?" as he cited comments from one of his panelists, RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan, who has regularly railed against the West.

"So they want to rejoin the Russian empire in a complicated way," he said, adding that Finland and Poland "were developing fine when they were part of the Russian empire."

"They emerged as a more or less cultured nations, the culture as such had developed," he said. "Well Poland is a much more complicated case, but Finland for sure."

Solovyov has repeatedly used his evening show to pitch the Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine as a war between Moscow and NATO and has regularly called for nuclear strikes on Western countries that support Kyiv.

However last week, his comments calling for the use of thermobaric weapons on Ukrainian cities were too much for one of his guests.

Political analyst Vasyl Vakarov shook his head after hearing Solovyov suggest using the weapons that use oxygen to create a high-temperature explosion before igniting a second charge.

"I think there has to be another way, this is wrong," Vakarov said.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-mother-finland-poland-baltics-solovyov
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Friday, April 14, 2023 4:39 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yep, SECOND, WHAT ABOUT OUR COUNTRY?
I mean, why do you clutch your pearls and shriek about RUSSIA!RUSSIA! but manage to ignore trampled freedoms in OUR country? Yanno, our nation that "promotes democracy and freedom"?

SECOND: I am very familiar with citizens who voted for Trump or continue to defend him. They were shouting lunatics before Trump got into politics. They struggle in life because they were always highly defective individuals attracted to defective politicians.

Oh, I see you gravitated back to your never-ending obssession: Trump. But, this isn't about Trump.
Seems like you can't corral your own thoughts.

Quote:
SECOND: They've got ... blah blah blah....
... as living examples of Matthew 7:3-5
“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

YES, SECOND, why you do keep looking at the specks elsewhere (Russia, "Trumptards") when you SO CLEARLY miss the USA's continued rampage on human rights everywhere and civil rights at home, and can't see your own deranged thinking?
I wonder about that with almost every one of your posts (at least, as far as I read into them.)

But, yanno, it doesn't matter. Your own deranged posts and thoughts won't change reality. The USA will either get its shit together and start paying attention to its common interests (and not nutjobs and indentitarians like you) or it won't. And if it doesn't, we'll go down in flames.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Friday, April 14, 2023 6:52 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But, yanno, it doesn't matter. Your own deranged posts and thoughts won't change reality. The USA will either get its shit together and start paying attention to its common interests (and not nutjobs and indentitarians like you) or it won't. And if it doesn't, we'll go down in flames.

Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly personally approved the arrest of Wall Street Journal correspondent Evan Gershkovich. Bloomberg reported on April 12 that Putin personally approved the arrest of Gershkovich on espionage charges before the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) arrested Gershkovich in Yekaterinburg, Sverdlovsk Oblast on March 30 for collecting information constituting a state secret about the activities of a Russian military-industrial complex enterprise.[11] Putin’s reported personal involvement in the arrest suggests that the arrest was likely a retaliatory response to the US arrest of Russian national Sergey Cherkasov on March 24 on charges of acting as agent of a foreign power.[12] Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov denied that Putin ordered Gershkovich’s arrest and stated that Russian special services independently decided to arrest Gershkovich.[13] ISW has previously reported that the FSB has made other recent arrests in connection with information about defense enterprises in Sverdlovsk Oblast, and ISW assesses that the Kremlin may use the pretext of threats to Russia’s defense industrial base (DIB) to justify crackdowns and further conceal the activities of Russian defense industrial enterprises.[14] Putin’s reported personal involvement in the first arrest of a US journalist since the Cold War may indicate that the Kremlin viewed the arrest as a calculated escalation that it will attempt to use as leverage for extracting concessions from the United States.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-13-2023

Signym, Putin arrested that journalist. Both that and the Ukraine war wouldn't have happened if Putin had broader and more balanced interests rather than his own self-glorification.

Back in the US, the Iraq War wouldn't have happened if President Bush had been a more balanced man. But the US had back in 2000 and still has a rather large percentage of the voting population who are strongly attracted to unbalanced leaders. That would be because the voters are unbalanced, which shows in their daily lives full of foolish and unnecessary financial, domestic, and work dramas. Endless dramas of fools. It is those fools who "go down in flames." With their preferences for unbalanced politicians, those fools might cause the whole country to "go down in flames." Look at 6ix. The little man has lived like a fool all his life and his preference for a leader? Donald J Trump - an unbalanced man.

The 10 Worst U.S. Presidents
(Trump was better than James Buchanan who refused to challenge the states that became the Confederacy.)
https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/slide
shows/the-10-worst-presidents?slide=10

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:20 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, yanno, it doesn't matter. Your own deranged posts and thoughts won't change reality. The USA will either get its shit together and start paying attention to its common interests (and not nutjobs and indentitarians like you) or it won't. And if it doesn't, we'll go down in flames.

SECOND: Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly

By who?
On what grounds?
Does anyone really think that anyone in the west has an ear on what goes on in the FSB or Security Council?
Ha!

****
BTW, if you had two neurons to rub together, you would have noticed that words and phrases like - allegedly, reportedly, according to anonymous sources etc - are just the media's way of distancing themselves from what they're publishing. They are publishing it as unverified. It's as meaningful as "some say..."

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SIGNYM

Saturday, April 15, 2023 12:27 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But, yanno, it doesn't matter. Your own deranged posts and thoughts won't change reality. The USA will either get its shit together and start paying attention to its common interests (and not nutjobs and indentitarians like you) or it won't. And if it doesn't, we'll go down in flames.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 15, 2023 1:12 AM (P)

We should just stop engaging entirely with the half-wit troll.

I'm going to continue to respond to his posts that aren't directed to anyone here and call him a retard for believing them and/or just ripping them off outright, but we should probably just stop rewarding his bad behavior by doing a complete ignore when he speaks to anyone directly.

It's not as if there's any intellectual conversation we'd be missing out on.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, April 15, 2023 2:02 AM (P)

Well, yeah. But other ppl besides SECOND read this forum. I hate to see the nonsense that he ~~posts~~ plagiarizes stand unopposed.

Hard to believe they're from mainstream publications. Just goes to show the psyops that we're buried in every day.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

SECOND

Saturday, April 15, 2023 3:33 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yeah. But other ppl besides SECOND read this forum. I hate to see the nonsense that he ~~posts~~ plagiarizes stand unopposed.

Hard to believe they're from mainstream publications. Just goes to show the psyops that we're buried in every day.

Signym, I know how you, personally, can spin this next story where Russians killed Ukrainian prisoners but you could do your special little interpretation and reverse everything, misunderstand everything, by making the Russians into victims and the Ukrainians, no longer the victims, but make them into villains. I know you can do it, Signym! Start by calling Jews the real Nazis and go with it, Signym.

Russia’s reaction to videos that seem to show its forces beheading Ukrainian soldiers hints at recognition of humanitarian law.

Russia and Ukraine rarely agree on much these days. Yet this week, after the release of two videos on social media that appeared to show Russian forces had beheaded three captured Ukrainian soldiers, the two countries seemed to find common moral ground. Each launched an investigation of the videos.

The Kremlin said they were “awful.” Russia’s Prosecutor General’s Office promised to verify their authenticity and then “make an appropriate decision.” Ukraine called on the International Criminal Court to investigate and opened its own war crimes probe.

The gruesome nature of decapitation – a brutality associated more with terrorist groups – may account for Russia’s apparent concern. The videos could push Russian opinion against the war and further unite the Ukrainian people. Such reactions would reaffirm the modern legal norms that wars must have humanitarian limits and that combatants in a conflict must protect civilians, the wounded, and prisoners of war.

Both Ukraine and Russia are among nearly 200 countries that are party to the Third Geneva Convention, the international law that dictates rules on the treatment of POWs. Yet Russia has largely ignored many of the Geneva Conventions since the invasion, especially in bombing civilian targets, executing civilians in captured towns, and taking Ukrainian children to Russia. Ukraine has committed similar atrocities but not nearly as many. And more importantly, it is investigating them.

Shocking violence can sometimes change the course of a conflict. The My Lai massacre of Vietnamese civilians by U.S. soldiers in 1968 shifted American opinion of the Vietnam War. In 2005, Al Qaeda told its branch in Iraq to stop its frequent beheadings. Videos of those acts were losing “Muslim hearts and minds,” said a leader of Al Qaeda. Many Islamic scholars also weighed in against such violence.

Beheadings during a war may be aimed at instilling fear, but they can also create a response that helps limit the war by affirming moral guardrails. That response is based on the presumed innocence and dignity of civilians or captured soldiers.

If the Kremlin does now seek to adhere to the rules of war, it would be a recognition that Russia must still exist within a moral community, one based on humanitarian law with the idea that what unites people is far stronger than what divides them. War needs limits because of the infinite good within humanity.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230414212256/https://www.csmonitor.com/C
ommentary/the-monitors-view/2023/0414/The-worst-of-war-violence-versus-the-best-of-humanity

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, April 15, 2023 4:16 AM (P)

The man who fled to Belarus after coming to Russian authorities’ attention because his daughter drew an anti-war picture at school, has been extradited back to Russia, according to a media report.

Belarusian authorities handed over Alexei Moskalyov, who was detained in Minsk late last month, to Russia, a spokesperson for the Belarus interior ministry told state newswire RIA Novosti.

In late March, a court in the town of Yefremov sentenced Moskalyov to two years in a penal colony for discrediting the Russian army on social media, but he was not present for sentencing, having gone on the run. Moskalyov was detained two days later in Belarus by the local authorities.

Belarus under dictator Alexander Lukashenko has closely aligned itself with Russia after it launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Russian troops entered Ukraine from Belarus at the beginning of the war; a year later, in late March this year, Lukashenko allowed Russia to station nuclear weapons on Belarusian soil.

Although the Yefremov court convicted Moskalyov over social media posts calling Russian soldiers “rapists” and the country’s leaders “terrorists,” his defense team and rights activists argue he was actually punished for an anti-war picture drawn by his 13-year-old daughter in April last year.

The girl was later placed in state care and denied communications with the outside world. The case has been likened to the Stalinist practice of targeting the children of “enemies of the state.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/anti-war-protest-alexei-moskalyov-extr
adited-russia/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:08 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yeah. But other ppl besides SECOND read this forum. I hate to see the nonsense that he ~~posts~~ plagiarizes stand unopposed.

Hard to believe they're from mainstream publications. Just goes to show the psyops that we're buried in every day.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Yup.

BTW... Have you seen the muzzle for the dog? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

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SECOND

Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:51 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

BTW... Have you seen the muzzle for the dog? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

I know where you're coming from, 6ix. Trump is howling at the moon:

Trump is trying to win more GOP voters with bizarre takes on the Ukraine war and praise for Putin

Trump made repeated false and misleading claims about the Ukraine war during a Fox News interview.

Trump praised Putin as "very smart" amid the stalemated and brutal fight the Russian leader ordered.

Trump's grasp of the war's appeared spotty and an echo of Russia's propaganda.

Trump repeatedly made false and misleading claims about the war in Ukraine while offering high praise for the Russian leader and accused war criminal who launched it.

Trump said Russian President Vladimir Putin "loved" Ukraine, while acknowledging that the unprovoked war Putin ordered has devastated the former Soviet republic. "He considers it to be a part of Russia," Trump said of Putin's view on Ukraine, which was among the few accurate remarks the former president made on the subject during the interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson — who also has routinely echoed the Kremlin's propaganda on the war.

At one point in the interview, Trump also appeared to suggest — without evidence — that the US was responsible for explosions that damaged the Nord Stream pipelines, the kind of attack line often heard in Russian state-run media.

"I don't want to get our country in trouble," Trump said when asked about the Nord Stream sabotage.

The former president also falsely said that the Biden administration has "taken the military that I've rebuilt, and they've given it all to Ukraine."

At times, Trump was unintelligible during the interview with Carlson as he jumped from one topic to another. But the former president was quite clear when it came to praising of US adversaries, as he lauded Putin as "very smart," North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un as "smart," and Chinese leader Xi Jinping as "brilliant." It was not the first time Trump has expressed admiration for some of the most repressive leaders in the world. Trump, for example, previously described Putin's justification for invading Ukraine as "genius."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-offers-false-takes-on-ukraine-pr
aises-putin-tucker-interview-2023-4

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:59 AM (P)

Russian state television has claimed Donald Trump is "laying the groundwork" for the U.S. to make a deal to help end the war in Ukraine.

During an episode of the 60 Minutes program, host Evgeny Popov discussed the former president's recent interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson.

During the interview, Trump suggested that Ukraine "cannot win" the war with Russia, while also appearing to suggest the U.S. should stop sending military aid to Kyiv.

"Putin, very smart. Now, he's had, probably a bad year," Trump said. "If he took over all of Ukraine what are we going to do because Biden is so committed to Ukraine. What happens if it's not a winnable war?

"There are people that say Ukraine cannot win. You can't beat Russia…Russia right now is making massive amounts of ammunition, beyond anything they've ever made before. We don't have any ammunition. We've given it to Ukraine."

While playing segments of Trump's interview, Popov said the former president had proposed that the U.S. "surrender" and stop assisting Ukraine's fight against Russia.

"According to Trump, America is tired of fighting Russia," Popov said. "Western politicians imposed more sanctions on Russia than they did against Iran and North Korea put together.

"They promised everyone a quick victory and the crash of Russia's economy. Instead, the bank system in the U.S. is falling apart and the European economy is falling into recession.

"According to Trump, Moscow has already won the economic war. Republicans understand they will have to make a deal, and Donald is laying the groundwork."

The show then played a section of Trump's interview in which he warned about Russia's nuclear weapon capabilities, as well as the threat of such weapons being used if World War III were to break out.

Trump has frequently attacked the U.S. response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and repeatedly claimed he could end the war "within 24 hours," without revealing how.

In March, the former president told Fox News' Sean Hannity that part of his suggested peace plan would be to allow Russia to "take over" parts of Ukraine.

"That's without even negotiating a deal. I could have negotiated. At worst, I could've made a deal to take over something, there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could've worked a deal," Trump told Hannity in a radio interview.

In March 2022, a report from Mother Jones revealed the Russian government instructed its news outlets to show clips of Carlson "as much as possible" because of his critical views of U.S. policy. Carlson has also been accused of echoing Russian propaganda on his Fox News show.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-groundwork-ukraine-russia-war-1794144

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SIGNYM

Saturday, April 15, 2023 8:25 AM (P)

Dbl

SIGNYM

Saturday, April 15, 2023 8:34 AM (P)

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... and the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments. One estimate by analysts from the Central Intelligence Agency put the embezzled funds at $400 million last year, at least; another expert compared the level of corruption in Kiev as approaching that of the Afghan war, “although there will be no professional audit reports emerging from the Ukraine.”
Corrupt politicians in Kiev have been literally “competing … to set up front companies for export contracts for weapons and ammunition with private arms dealers around the world, all of which provide kickbacks”, Hersh wrote. “I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there are others in places like the Cayman Islands and Panama, and there are lots of Americans involved,” a US expert on international trade told Hersh.

CIA Director William Burns had confronted Zelensky in a meeting in January in Kiev, saying the Ukrainian brass was angry because Zelensky “was taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals.”

Burns presented Zelensky with a list of 35 corrupt Ukraine generals and top brass, Hersh writes, forcing Zelensky to fire ten Generals and do “little else.”

“The ten he got rid of were brazenly bragging about the money they had—driving around Kiev in their new Mercedes,” Hersh reports. Zelenksy’s lackluster response allegedly contributed to a “total breakdown” of trust between the corrupt Biden Regime and honest elements of the intel community.

Another sticking point for honest members of the intel community is “the strident ideology and lack of political skill shown by Secretary of State Tony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan”, Hersh notes.

White House Resident Biden and his two main foreign policy shills Blinken and Sullivan “have no experience, judgment, and moral integrity. They just tell lies, make up stories. Diplomatic deniability is something else,” according to Hersh’s sources. “They live in different worlds” than the experienced diplomats and military and intelligence officers.

“There is a total breakdown between the White House leadership and the intelligence community,” the intelligence official told Hersh. The rift dates back to the fall, when Biden ordered the covert destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines, as Hersh reported.

“Destroying the Nord Stream pipelines was never discussed, or even known in advance, by the community,” the official told Hersh. “And there is no strategy for ending the war. The US spent two years planning for the Normandy invasion in World War II. What are we going to do if China decides to invade Taiwan?”

CIA director William Burns “is not the problem,” according to Hersh’s sources. “The problem is Biden and his principal lieutenants—Blinken and Sullivan and their court of worshippers—who see those who criticize Zelensky as being pro-Putin. ‘We are against evil. Ukraine will fight ’til the last military shell is gone, and still fight.’ And here’s Biden who is telling America that we’re going to fight as long as it takes.”

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/trading-with-the-enemy

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 15, 2023 9:36 AM (P)

Joe Biden* is a criminal.

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SECOND

Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:40 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Dbl

This deserves double posting: Prigozhin considers that Russia can incur a defeat in Ukraine and that such a defeat in the short run would actually benefit Russia.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin is setting information conditions to exploit a Russian military failure if the planned Ukrainian counteroffensive is successful. Prigozhin published an essay on April 14 in which he argues that Ukraine’s coming counteroffensive is more likely to succeed than fail.[11] Prigozhin warned that a selfish Russian “deep state” (which he defines as “a community of near-state elites that operate independently of the political leadership of the state and have close ties and their own agenda”) is currently in crisis due to the Russian military’s failures to secure a victory quickly.[12] Prigozhin accused members of this deep state embedded in the Russian bureaucracy of deliberately sabotaging Russian success in the war because they seek to resume their privileged lives of comfort.[13] Prigozhin stated that these Russian deep state "internal enemies” will push the Kremlin to “make serious concessions” tantamount to “betraying Russian interests,” including even possibly returning occupied Ukrainian territory to Ukraine over the course of a few years.[14]

Prigozhin explicitly rejected the notion of any negotiations to end the war and urged Russians to continue fighting, even if it results in Russia’s temporary defeat. Prigozhin stated that Russia must ignore the Russian deep state’s temptations to cut Russian losses and settle.[15] Prigozhin stated the Russian military cannot stop fighting now despite current Russian territorial gains because the Ukrainian state has transformed, and unoccupied Ukraine is now politically opposed the Kremlin. Prigozhin stated that Russia must continue to fight relentlessly in Ukraine regardless of how adverse conditions become. He stated that any scenario in which Russia faces defeat will result in a groundswell of “radical national feelings” in Russia that will serve as the catalyst for a reinvigorated Russian patriotism and enable the Russian nation to undergo the baptism by fire necessary to emerge victorious and defeat Ukraine.[16] Prigozhin’s essay is thematically and logistical consistent with his previous stated effort to transform Wagner Group into a hardline ideological elite parallel military organization to advance Russian interests.[17]

The Russian nationalist discourse about the acceptability of Russia suffering defeat in Ukraine deviates from some Western assertions of the need to preserve Russia from humiliation and allow Russia to “save face.” Prigozhin’s argument that the Kremlin must resist the temptation to settle and instead remain committed to winning in Ukraine is not compatible with the idea that the Kremlin must be given a way to save face lest it conduct a massive, possibly nuclear, escalation.[18] It is noteworthy that Prigozhin – one of most extreme thought leaders among Russia’s pro-war faction – considers that Russia can incur a defeat in Ukraine and that such a defeat in the short run would actually benefit Russia. Prigozhin’s comments, together with those of other radical pro-war voices, highlight the priority that the pro-war community places on galvanizing Russian society and energizing it for a long fight against the West. That agenda is not advanced by courting thermonuclear destruction.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-14-2023

Prigozhin published an essay on April 14 with these last few words:

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Russia cannot accept any agreement, only a fair fight. And if we come out of this battle battered, there is nothing to worry about. The fortified regions of Russia make it impossible to penetrate into its depths. And the Russian people have never broken down and will never break down. Therefore - Only Fair Fight! And the sooner it starts, the better.

I summarize. The Ukrainians are read

SECOND

Saturday, April 15, 2023 5:54 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Joe Biden* is a criminal.

WAIT! So the traitor who leaked US intelligence to hurt Ukraine was a racist right wing gun nut?
You don’t say!

What we know about the suspected leaker of Pentagon documents
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/14/1169952771/jack-teixeira-background-pen
tagon-document-leak

None of the articles mention how the traitor voted in 2020, but I'd bet a million he voted for Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 15, 2023 6:47 PM (P)

Joe Biden* is a criminal.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 15, 2023 7:28 PM (P)

Ukrainians said to pull back in Bakhmut as Moscow launches new push

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukrainians-said-to-pull-back-in-b
akhmut-as-moscow-launches-new-push/ar-AA19QW1E

Russia’s oil exports are back to pre-war levels

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/14/energy/russia-oil-exports-iea-report

#Rootin4Putin

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, April 15, 2023 9:54 PM (P)

Child rapist Zelensky embezzled more than $400 Million from US aid last year and is buying discount diesel from Russia with US Taxpayer dollars.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/04/13/zelensky-and-his-generals-embe
zzled-at-least-400m-from-u-s-aid-last-year-according-to-intel/

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SECOND

Sunday, April 16, 2023 6:27 PM (P)

Reporting from some Western sources that Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin called for Russia to end its war against Ukraine is inaccurate.[1] Some Western reports covering Prigozhin’s April 14 essay on a potential Ukrainian counteroffensive and the future of the war miscontextualized a rhetorical statement in which Prigozhin established a strawman argument he attributed to Russia’s “internal enemies” who seek to rationalize Russia ending the war in Ukraine now.[2] The point of his essay was to attack this strawman, not to advance it. Prigozhin actually called on Russia to commit to a decisive fight that will either defeat Ukraine or result in a temporary Russian defeat that will catalyze Russia’s nationalist rebirth and set conditions for future victory.[3] A full reading of Prigozhin‘s essay, titled, “Only an Honest Fight: No Negotiations,” does not lend itself to any reasonable interpretation that Prigozhin advocated for an end to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Reading Prigozhin‘s public communications is not a straightforward undertaking. Much of the nuance included in Prigozhin’s speech is lost when translating Russian to English. Prigozhin has an idiosyncratic rhetorical and writing style that relies heavily on deadpan sarcasm, selective ambiguity, aphorisms, vulgarity, and ironic slang. Prigozhin’s isolated quotes separated from the full context of his messages often lose their initial meaning.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-15-2023

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SECOND

Monday, April 17, 2023 10:59 PM (P)

No surprise that mighty Russia struggles to conquer little Ukraine. Anybody who is too competent will either be executed, jailed, or leave the country:

Opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza has been sentenced to 25 years in jail in Russia for charges linked to his criticism of the war in Ukraine.

He was found guilty of treason, spreading "false" information about the Russian army and being affiliated with an "undesirable organisation".

The Russian-British former journalist and politician is the latest of several Putin opponents to have been arrested or forced to flee Russia.

He has denied all of the charges.

Mr Kara-Murza, 41, has spent years speaking out against Russian President Vladimir Putin and, alongside the war in Ukraine, has also been critical of the government's crackdown on dissent.

Last week, he said in a statement that he stood by "every word that I have said... Not only do I not repent any of this, I am proud of it."

"I know that the day will come when the darkness engulfing our country will clear," he added in remarks posted online. "Our society will open its eyes and shudder when it realises what crimes were committed in its name."

Mr Kara-Murza's 25-year sentence, which has been widely condemned, was the maximum sought by prosecutors and is the longest sentence an opposition figure has received since the war in Ukraine began.

It took only minutes for the judge to rule on his case - sometimes the delivery of verdicts and announcing sentencing can take a long time in Russian courts.

The judge said Mr Kara-Murza would serve his time in a "strict regime correctional colony" and that he would be fined 400,000 roubles ($4,900; £4,000).

The tough sentence is a sign that in today's Russia the authorities are not only determined to silence critics but also to neutralise anything or anyone they believe represents a threat to the political system. Putin neutralizes anyone who is not dopey.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65297003

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SECOND

Monday, April 17, 2023 11:17 PM (P)

Russian opposition activist Vladimir Kara-Murza has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for breaking Putin’s “misinformation” laws, laws introduced after his invasion of Ukraine, an act which Putin himself has all but given up pretending is anything other than a war.

So absurd is the level of misinformation required to maintain the lies about Ukraine that Putin has, on several occasions, almost broken his own laws himself.

Naturally, Kara-Murza’s crime is to have had the courage to tell the truth; to accurately describe Putin’s Russia as the kleptocracy and autocracy it is.

He said that “Russia is a nation of symbols.” And that it was obvious exactly who Putin was from the moment in 1999 when he changed the Russian national anthem back to Stalin’s approved version.

Since then, for decades, world leaders have, he said, “rolled out the red carpet for him, shaken his hand, or asked for ‘a reset.’” They have been complicit in his appeasement, they have allowed stolen money to be stashed away in their banks, or spent on luxurious lifestyles in London or Paris or New York.

He has already spent 25 years warning us. As early as about 2001 he once breezily said to me that it was tiring work, that he was getting nowhere and he’d kind of had enough. He was doing his degree in history, so I mentioned something to him about the Aventine Secession, when opposition parties withdrew from the Italian parliament in protest at the murder of Giacomo Matteotti, but the consequence was that it provided the opportunity for Mussolini to assume dictatorial power. I remember it because it was the only time that I knew about something he didn’t.

Every time I saw him after that, he mentioned the Aventine Secession. “They just walked away Tom! They quit! They walked out! And look what happened! Look what happened!”

The Aventine Secession was the first thing he mentioned when I called him up in 2017. He did it to make the point that he was simply never, ever going to give up. That he would go on to the end, whatever the cost may be. In his statement to the court last week, he was predictably defiant.

“Not only do I not repent of any of this, I am proud of it,” he said. “I blame myself for only one thing: that over the years of my political activity I have not managed to convince enough of my compatriots and enough politicians in the democratic countries of the danger that the current regime in the Kremlin poses for Russia and for the world. Today this is obvious to everyone, but at a terrible price — the price of war.”

He will have known the consequences when he spent the early weeks after the invasion, criticising Putin on international television from a flat in Moscow, and all the while refusing to leave. He actually returned to Moscow from London for the purposes of doing so, saying it was his duty. How, as a Russian opposition politician, could he expect Russians to stand up to Putin if he would not do so himself?

He will also know that whatever sentence imposed on him is largely meaningless. As Alexei Navalny likes to say, both he and Putin are serving life sentences. One of them will have to end first.

More at https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/putin-russia-critic-war-kara-murz
a-b2321085.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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SIGNYM

Monday, April 17, 2023 11:24 PM (P)

As usual SECOND you got your head stuck up some know-nothing's ass. It's been widely acknowledged for months now that Russia is fighting war of attrition. That means destroying the opposing military while taking far lower losses, not taking territory. I've heard (not sure how reliably) that there have been internal discussions in the Russian MoD on whether to completely close the pincer around Bakhmut, but since Kiev insists on pouring more men and machines along the "Road of death", in those terms Bakhmut is "the gift that keeps on giving".

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THG

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 1:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

As usual SECOND you got your head stuck up some know-nothing's ass. It's been widely acknowledged for months now that Russia is fighting war of attention. That means destroying the opposing military while taking far lower losses, not taking territory. I've heard (not sure how reliably) that there have been internal discussions in the Russian MoD on whether to completely close the pincer around Bakhmut, but since Kiev insists on pouring more men and machines along the "Road of death", in those terms Bakhmut is "the gift that keeps on giving".

You're so funny comrade signym. You really are.

T

ARE THERE ANY FOOD SHORTAGES IN RUSSIA RIGHT NOW?

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 2:59 AM (P)

Your sources are as biased and unreliable as SECOND'S.
I would have thought that BY NOW you would have learned to take note of their biases and reliability (or lack of).

If all of your "info" turns out not to be true, will you learn to treat your sources with at least the same amount of suspicion that you treat ZH?

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SECOND

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 4:58 AM (P)

Signym, you know, this paragraph and another that you wrote today, don't actually describe the same war. Either Russia is annihilating the Ukrainian military or Russia is annihilating the US Army and NATO, and the US is keeping the deaths a total secret.

Version 1)

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As usual SECOND you got your head stuck up some know-nothing's ass. It's been widely acknowledged for months now that Russia is fighting war of attrition. That means destroying the opposing military while taking far lower losses, not taking territory. I've heard (not sure how reliably) that there have been internal discussions in the Russian MoD on whether to completely close the pincer around Bakhmut, but since Kiev insists on pouring more men and machines along the "Road of death", in those terms Bakhmut is "the gift that keeps on giving".

Elsewhere and today, Signym wrote:

Version 2)

Quote:
a) The USA and its NATO "allies" are getting their ass handed to them in Ukraine, and since the USA came to dominate the world by giving the impression of military invincibility, once the spell is broken resentment and blowback emerge. . .

IMHO anyway.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61834&mid=11726
17#1172617

Actually, there is a third version of the War in Ukraine that is different from Signym's two versions given above:

Version 3)

Quote:
Russia is losing.

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THG

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 5:05 AM (P)

Agreed second, Russia is losing the war.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 5:30 AM (P)

No. They're not.

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SECOND

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 5:37 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. They're not.

Belief in Russian superiority follows from believing in Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 5:39 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. They're not.
Belief in Russian superiority follows from believing in Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

It has nothing to do with superiority.

Simple facts.

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SECOND

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 5:53 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It has nothing to do with superiority.

Simple facts.

Enough democratic countries recognize the danger that Putin and his supporters pose to the world and Putin will lose. Enough Americans recognize the danger Trump and his Trumptards pose to the US and Trump will lose.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, April 18, 2023 6:22 AM (P)

Uh huh.

Meanwhile... Have you bothered looking around you and seeing what's happened to our country in the last 2 years?

Name one good thing that doesn't include the word Trump in it.

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