In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
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Oh, btw- ask Dr Endo about chromium and cinnamon. When I asked Dr Onco about supplements (I was taking several) she had a "latest research shows" answer for me (which I looked up on my favorite medical websites, info confirmed) and I gotta say, I was impressed as hell.
Some doctors are just generically anti-supplement of but give Dr Endo a chance to show you his stuff.
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Got a sunny day to do my stuff today. Mammogram appointment to make.
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Hubbys diabetes is hard to control, and HE eats starches. Beans for bfast, oatmeal for snack (along with peanuts and raw veggies), meat and veggies for dinner and fruit and sugar-free pudding for dessert. So it's not like you have to go entirely without starches and sugars. Unfortunately, they have to be limited.
I've got a lot to learn... Hopefully I get some guidance by the professionals going forward since it's been you who's given me the only guidance I've had so far. As far as I know, only one other living person in my bloodline has ever had diabetes, and I've only seen him in person maybe 5 times in my life. It's my Dad/Aunt's cousin. According to my aunt, he doesn't do any of the things he's supposed to be doing, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to tell me much. Usually my dad is real good about these things, but he's got no experience with diabetes.
I think it's the loss of water weight since I'm not drinking nearly as much as I used to and I make a REAL effort not to drink much when I get up at night, but after doing my business this morning I'm back down to 145.6. That's the first time since I started taking the pills that I've been under 146. And that's despite the fact I ate more brown rice last night than I've been eating.
I'd planned on maybe making a few chicken breasts too, but I fell asleep before I got around to doing it.
I almost wonder if being skinny with diabetes is going to be more difficult than if I were fat with diabetes.
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I am glad you are taking SIGs advice and listening to doctors.
The last thing you want is to end up like my Blair. He wouldn't listen to me, his friends or doctors on handling his diet with diabetes. Oh, he took his meds but anything else nope. And this can kill you. He was on dialysis for the last few years of his life and you don't want that.
My dad's oldest sister controlled her diabetes through diet for many years before she had to go on the meds. Now, she was in her 70s I think when she was diagnosed. My dad's youngest brother was another one who wouldn't listen to anyone either.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, btw- ask Dr Endo about chromium and cinnamon. When I asked Dr Onco about supplements (I was taking several) she had a "latest research shows" answer for me (which I looked up on my favorite medical websites, info confirmed) and I gotta say, I was impressed as hell.
Some doctors are just generically anti-supplement of but give Dr Endo a chance to show you his stuff.
Will do.

Hey... Do you think an accidental overabundance of Canola Oil in my dinner last night could have put my bowels in hyperdrive today?
I've been on the pot 4 times this morning and I think a 5th one is on the way. Even after eating a banana with my morning pill, I'm now down to 144lbs even.
The only reason I'm not freaking out about any of this is because of the IBS I've had all week... apparently I've literally been full of shit.

Morning workout was the easiest I've had so far since starting up again, and that's even including 2 new exercises I've added to the routine.
Not feeling bad, but here we are one week after I've started taking the pills and I'm basically the same weight as I was when I started.
At least I haven't lost any and my muscle tone is a lot better.
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I am glad you are taking SIGs advice and listening to doctors.
The last thing you want is to end up like my Blair. He wouldn't listen to me, his friends or doctors on handling his diet with diabetes. Oh, he took his meds but anything else nope. And this can kill you. He was on dialysis for the last few years of his life and you don't want that.
My dad's oldest sister controlled her diabetes through diet for many years before she had to go on the meds. Now, she was in her 70s I think when she was diagnosed. My dad's youngest brother was another one who wouldn't listen to anyone either.
I'm sorry about your Blair, Brenda. :(
I can empathize. This is not going to be easy.
You'd think the idea of being able to eat as much as you want without gaining weight like you were 20 years old again would be great, but it's going to be a bunch of stuff I don't particularly want to eat. I'm sure it was very hard for him.
I'm going to try my best. It's all I can do.
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Quote:Could be the other way around: there is stuff you should not eat. From today's news: “Our study suggests poor carbohydrate quality is a leading driver of diet-attributable type 2 diabetes globally,” says senior author Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, a professor of nutrition at Tufts University and professor of medicine at Tufts School of Medicine in Boston, in a statement.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
. . . it's going to be a bunch of stuff I don't particularly want to eat.
Another key factor: People are eating far too much red and processed meats, such as bacon, sausage, salami and the like, the study said. Those three factors — eating too few whole grains and too many processed grains and meats — were the primary drivers of over 14 million new cases of type 2 diabetes in 2018, according to the study, which was published Monday in the journal Nature Medicine.
In fact, the study estimated 7 out of 10 cases of type 2 diabetes worldwide in 2018 were linked to poor food choices.
More at https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/17/health/rise-type-2-diabetes-global-well
ness/index.html
The Simpsons cartoons show that if you eat and drink like Homer Simpson you become Homer Simpson. He had diabetes and a heart attack. He even was an alcoholic who stopped but then restarted in an episode that parodied the John Wick movies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Barfighter
He Had Diabetes At Some Point
https://screenrant.com/simpsons-hidden-details-facts-about-homer/#he-h
ad-diabetes-at-some-point
Unlike real people, Homer Simpson doesn't die from bad habits, at least not until FOX cancels The Simpsons like it did Firefly.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I am glad you are taking SIGs advice and listening to doctors.
The last thing you want is to end up like my Blair. He wouldn't listen to me, his friends or doctors on handling his diet with diabetes. Oh, he took his meds but anything else nope. And this can kill you. He was on dialysis for the last few years of his life and you don't want that.
My dad's oldest sister controlled her diabetes through diet for many years before she had to go on the meds. Now, she was in her 70s I think when she was diagnosed. My dad's youngest brother was another one who wouldn't listen to anyone either.
I'm sorry about your Blair, Brenda. :(
I can empathize. This is not going to be easy.
You'd think the idea of being able to eat as much as you want without gaining weight like you were 20 years old again would be great, but it's going to be a bunch of stuff I don't particularly want to eat. I'm sure it was very hard for him.
I'm going to try my best. It's all I can do.
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Thanks Jack. He was just set in his ways and because he had been a medical student before turning to law thought he could handle it without thinking.
Now, he was taking insulin injections twice a day but without watching his diet it didn't stop the effects diabetes can have on the body. His kidneys in particular but also his eyes were going.
It was hard but like I said stubborn. You need to be open to the doctors. And it will mean some major shifts in your diet as you are making. Always remember this is for your health just like when you went to the dentist and had all that work done.
You've made good changes since you found out and you are listening. Working on this all the time is all anyone can ask of you and all you can ask of yourself. It's chronic but it doesn't have to control you.
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Back and done. No rain and appointment made for mammogram. Can't wear my hearing aides which will make it fun but it has to be done.
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Well a friend of my brother's is tomorrow coming to see if he can put my bathroom sink to rights. Yes, I am still having problems with it.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Thanks Jack. He was just set in his ways and because he had been a medical student before turning to law thought he could handle it without thinking.
Now, he was taking insulin injections twice a day but without watching his diet it didn't stop the effects diabetes can have on the body. His kidneys in particular but also his eyes were going.
It was hard but like I said stubborn. You need to be open to the doctors. And it will mean some major shifts in your diet as you are making. Always remember this is for your health just like when you went to the dentist and had all that work done.
You've made good changes since you found out and you are listening. Working on this all the time is all anyone can ask of you and all you can ask of yourself. It's chronic but it doesn't have to control you.
I sure hope not, Brenda.
It seemed like there was a return almost to normal nearly overnight after taking the pills, but something is still evidently quite wrong here.
That's not to say that there was no change. The weight has more or less stabilized and the thirst levels are mostly down from what they were, but we're not there yet.
I'm glad I'm going to the endocrinologist today, but I'm kind of worried they're going to find something else or that the diabetes is worse than we thought it was already.
I might not be eating a perfect diet for a diabetic just yet, but my diet is so much different than it was a week ago and I'm really struggling here. There's no way I could do any real physical job for any extended period of time right now, and some nights (like last night) the thirst comes back and I ended up drinking a lot of water and getting up a lot in the middle of the night. Yesterday was a pretty bad day.
I really thought based off of the first few days last week that I'd be going to this appointment with a lot more optimism than I will be.
Finger's crossed.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Thanks Jack. He was just set in his ways and because he had been a medical student before turning to law thought he could handle it without thinking.
Now, he was taking insulin injections twice a day but without watching his diet it didn't stop the effects diabetes can have on the body. His kidneys in particular but also his eyes were going.
It was hard but like I said stubborn. You need to be open to the doctors. And it will mean some major shifts in your diet as you are making. Always remember this is for your health just like when you went to the dentist and had all that work done.
You've made good changes since you found out and you are listening. Working on this all the time is all anyone can ask of you and all you can ask of yourself. It's chronic but it doesn't have to control you.
I sure hope not, Brenda.
It seemed like there was a return almost to normal nearly overnight after taking the pills, but something is still evidently quite wrong here.
That's not to say that there was no change. The weight has more or less stabilized and the thirst levels are mostly down from what they were, but we're not there yet.
I'm glad I'm going to the endocrinologist today, but I'm kind of worried they're going to find something else or that the diabetes is worse than we thought it was already.
I might not be eating a perfect diet for a diabetic just yet, but my diet is so much different than it was a week ago and I'm really struggling here. There's no way I could do any real physical job for any extended period of time right now, and some nights (like last night) the thirst comes back and I ended up drinking a lot of water and getting up a lot in the middle of the night. Yesterday was a pretty bad day.
I really thought based off of the first few days last week that I'd be going to this appointment with a lot more optimism than I will be.
Finger's crossed.
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I hope so too Jack.
Dealing with something this serious takes time and being it is essentially a metabolic disorder there will be set backs.
Your body has to adjust to this new regime. It got used to losing weight and not having enough fuel in it (sugar) to run.
You have to start thinking in the long term. What can you do day by day to make sure your blood sugar levels stay stable and you don't wind up at the doctor's more than you or the doctor think you should.
I think you will be okay at this doctor's appointment. To me as a lay person and only dealing with this second hand it seems like they have caught it in time. You are also young enough to make all the adjustments you need to. But still this is a huge lifestyle change and you have to give yourself time.
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Well, just waiting for my brother's friend to see if he can fix my bathroom sink then I am out for a walk in the possible rain.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I hope so too Jack.
Dealing with something this serious takes time and being it is essentially a metabolic disorder there will be set backs.
Your body has to adjust to this new regime. It got used to losing weight and not having enough fuel in it (sugar) to run.
You have to start thinking in the long term. What can you do day by day to make sure your blood sugar levels stay stable and you don't wind up at the doctor's more than you or the doctor think you should.
I think you will be okay at this doctor's appointment. To me as a lay person and only dealing with this second hand it seems like they have caught it in time. You are also young enough to make all the adjustments you need to. But still this is a huge lifestyle change and you have to give yourself time.
Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.
Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.
Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).
Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.
Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat. If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.
It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.
He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.
I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.
He can't believe that the Immediate Care didn't already give me a monitor (or make me buy one) and that they didn't give me any sort of information on what I should be eating. I told him, to be fair, that the IC Dr. wanted me to see the Endocrinologist the next day or 2 and we couldn't get me in for an entire week, so I wasn't supposed to have gone an entire week without any guidance but that's just the way it worked out.
I guess I'll just read all of that, do what I need to do and see what happens next visit.
Finger's crossed.

ETA: There is just one sliver of a silver lining here though...
My pulse is still over 120 (I'm always over 90 even when I was healthy, so it's not AS bad as it sounds), but my blood pressure is better right now than it's ever been in my life as far as I know. I couldn't believe it when she said it was only 126/74. One week ago it was 147/96, and even when I was working overnights and in great shape I never had numbers lower than mid-130s over mid-80's.
So... At least there's that!

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It appears I'm in good company...
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/prediabetes-1-in-3.html
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Prediabetes: You Could Be That 1 in 3
1 in 3 adults has prediabetes. Could be you, your barber, your barber's barber.
The numbers are in, but what do they mean? Here’s how our latest PSAs are helping people see themselves in a really important number and take action to learn their prediabetes risk.
More than 88 million. That’s how many American adults have prediabetes, and more than 8 in 10 of them don’t know they have it.
Statistics like these are a little hard to wrap your head around. You might be 1 in 88 million. What does that even mean?
That same fact put another way: “1 in 3 US adults.” It could be you, your favorite brother, or your other brother who has prediabetes. You, your boss, your boss’s boss. When you can see yourself and the people you know in the stats, you get it in a whole new way.
That’s the thinking behind Phase 3 of CDC’s award-winning Do I Have Prediabetes campaign. These latest public service announcements (PSAs) aim to change how people think about prediabetes – maybe even get them to think about it for the first time – by making it personal.
The PSAs feature an average guy along with two different people in various parts of his life, from work to the barbershop to a family dinner. The message for viewers: You or some of the people you know could be that 1 in 3.
They say that by 2050, 1 out of 3 Americans will have full-blown Diabetes.
I skipped right from pre to that grey area between 1 and 2.
I'm a trend-setter.

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Wow.
I think that insulin shot worked almost immediately.
Not that I've had any trouble shoveling in the extra food to try to maintain my weight in the last 3 or 4 weeks, but because of that I haven't had anything resembling a hunger pang for about a month.
I sure do right now. 
I do believe it's time to eat a late lunch.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I hope so too Jack.
Dealing with something this serious takes time and being it is essentially a metabolic disorder there will be set backs.
Your body has to adjust to this new regime. It got used to losing weight and not having enough fuel in it (sugar) to run.
You have to start thinking in the long term. What can you do day by day to make sure your blood sugar levels stay stable and you don't wind up at the doctor's more than you or the doctor think you should.
I think you will be okay at this doctor's appointment. To me as a lay person and only dealing with this second hand it seems like they have caught it in time. You are also young enough to make all the adjustments you need to. But still this is a huge lifestyle change and you have to give yourself time.
Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.
Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.
Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).
Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.
Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat. If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.
It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.
He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.
I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.
He can't believe that the Immediate Care didn't already give me a monitor (or make me buy one) and that they didn't give me any sort of information on what I should be eating. I told him, to be fair, that the IC Dr. wanted me to see the Endocrinologist the next day or 2 and we couldn't get me in for an entire week, so I wasn't supposed to have gone an entire week without any guidance but that's just the way it worked out.
I guess I'll just read all of that, do what I need to do and see what happens next visit.
Finger's crossed.
ETA: There is just one sliver of a silver lining here though...
My pulse is still over 120 (I'm always over 90 even when I was healthy, so it's not AS bad as it sounds), but my blood pressure is better right now than it's ever been in my life as far as I know. I couldn't believe it when she said it was only 126/74. One week ago it was 147/96, and even when I was working overnights and in great shape I never had numbers lower than mid-130s over mid-80's.
So... At least there's that!
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That staff person was an idiot for sure.
But I am glad to see that Dr. Endo is on top of it all and giving you what you need to get a real handle on this. That's the best thing is to have a good doc in y
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wow.
I think that insulin shot worked almost immediately.
Not that I've had any trouble shoveling in the extra food to try to maintain my weight in the last 3 or 4 weeks, but because of that I haven't had anything resembling a hunger pang for about a month.
I sure do right now.
I do believe it's time to eat a late lunch.
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I'll grab myself a between meal snack in over half an hour.
Be thankful you don't have a thyroid problem as I do because that walks hand in hand with hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). I have to basically graze all day to keep my blood sugar in check. Diet is my only control.
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Well, my brother's friend came by and basically confirmed what I've been suspecting for a while. The problem with the bathroom sink is not my end. It is at the junction where all the pipes meet.
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Quote:There isn't much testing that can be done. Three tests are available: the fingerstick test for your current blood glucose, and a test for something called A1C which gives a three-month glucose average (can be finger-stick in-office or laboratory test of a blood sample.) and a glucose tolerance test. At this point, all the A1C would tell you is that in the past three months your glucose was extraordinarily high. Not helpful except maybe as a benchmark.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.
Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.
Quote:Weight loss and thirst are symptoms of EXTREMELY HIGH blood sugar, so yours must have been extremely high.
Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).
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Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.

Quote:If you're injecting insulin, adding meds, AND changing your diet I would be way more comfortable if you were measuring your blood sugar every day. You don't want it to go too low either! Low blood sugar can be deadly... I've called 911 on a co-worker who wasn't balancing her insulin with starch and she was slipping into a coma... high blood sugar only does it's damage over time.
Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat.
Quote:I'd still be more comfortable with every day testing.
If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.
Quote:Diet IS important. Metformin is relatively cheap, but Jardiance (if that's what he added) and insulin are expen$$$ive. The more you can control you diabetes thru diet, the better off you'll be. Considering that your winter diet was so off-the-rails, it should be easy to improve!
It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.
He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.
I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.
Quote:
He can't believe that the Immediate Care didn't already give me a monitor (or make me buy one) and that they didn't give me any sort of information on what I should be eating. I told him, to be fair, that the IC Dr. wanted me to see the Endocrinologist the next day or 2 and we couldn't get me in for an entire week, so I wasn't supposed to have gone an entire week without any guidance but that's just the way it worked out.
I guess I'll just read all of that, do what I need to do and see what happens next visit.
Finger's crossed.
ETA: There is just one sliver of a silver lining here though...
My pulse is still over 120 (I'm always over 90 even when I was healthy, so it's not AS bad as it sounds), but my blood pressure is better right now than it's ever been in my life as far as I know. I couldn't believe it when she said it wa
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Oh, shopping tips:
Chix breast is hard to cook bc it overcooks easily and gets dry and tasteless. Chix thigh are far easier to cook with and usually cheaper.
Ground turkey is easy to find and usually priced somewhere between ground beef and chix breast. When it comes on sale here it's about $4/lb, probably cheaper where you are. It makes bitchin' meatballs, meat sauce for spaghetti, meatloaf and chili con carne.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:There isn't much testing that can be done. Three tests are available: the fingerstick test for your current blood glucose, and a test for something called A1C which gives a three-month glucose average (can be finger-stick in-office or laboratory test of a blood sample.) and a glucose tolerance test. At this point, all the A1C would tell you is that in the past three months your glucose was extraordinarily high. Not helpful except maybe as a benchmark.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... It's going to be more than I thought it was going into it though.
Dr. Endo didn't do much testing on me at all today after his nurse gave me the lancet test.
I learned a bit about A1C today. But nah... I thought we'd be doing testing on any other possible hormone issues, or perhaps finding out if my pancreas is dead. Guess that's not a top priority right now.
Quote:Quote:Weight loss and thirst are symptoms of EXTREMELY HIGH blood sugar, so yours must have been extremely high.
Despite 500mg of Metformin 2 times per day for a week, my blood sugar was 400mg/dL, which is 4 times higher than it should be. (So no... I wasn't imagining that something was still wrong even though I was feeling better and I'd stopped the weight loss).
I told him that it was just over 1000mg/dL, but he told me I'd have been dead or in the ER if that was the case and he says that was from my urine and not my blood. I'll have to see, but I think I'm right about that. If I am, 400 is a lot better than 1000.
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Unfortunately, idiots in the system didn't get my charts to the new doc with a whole week to do it so he had nothing to compare it to while I was there. His secretary told me last Tuesday afternoon she would do that and she never did.Quote:If you're injecting insulin, adding meds, AND changing your diet I would be way more comfortable if you were measuring your blood sugar every day. You don't want it to go too low either! Low blood sugar can be deadly... I've called 911 on a co-worker who wasn't balancing her insulin with starch and she was slipping into a coma... high blood sugar only does it's damage over time.
Right now he says I'm "in the grey area" between Type 1 and Type 2. So until I see him in 2 weeks, he's doubled my current meds, added some new pill to the mix, and I've got to inject myself with insulin once every morning and monitor my blood sugar every 3 days in the morning before I eat.
You'd think the doctors would tell you these things.... Guess not.
Quote:Quote:I'd still be more comfortable with every day testing.
If I'm not under 200mg/dL when I test after 3 days, I'm supposed to up the dose of "15" for insulin by 3 (18, 21, etc.) until we get that under 200mg/dL.
Not cheap. :(
Quote:Quote:Diet IS important. Metformin is relatively cheap, but Jardiance (if that's what he added) and insulin are expen$$$ive. The more you can control you diabetes thru diet, the better off you'll be. Considering that your winter diet was so off-the-rails, it should be easy to improve!
It looks as though he didn't even want to perform any other tests right now until we get this under control.
He said he was glad to hear that my weight loss has stopped and that my thirst levels were down, but told me that if I adhere to his medicine schedule that by the next visit in 2 weeks I will have put on weight the next time I see him.
I've got a lot of stuff to read. He wants me to see a Nutritionist, and mentioned something about a class on nutrition that he has in the paperwork he sent me home with.
It's not Jardiance. I can't remember ATM, but it's a 5mg pill that starts with "G". It was cheaper than the Metformin.
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I'll grab myself a between meal snack in over half an hour.
Be thankful you don't have a thyroid problem as I do because that walks hand in hand with hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). I have to basically graze all day to keep my blood sugar in check. Diet is my only control.
Yikes. I feel for you. I've never really had to put much thought into what and when to eat before.
I think we've ruled out hyper/hypothyroidism, but with these doctors who the heck knows????

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I'll grab myself a between meal snack in over half an hour.
Be thankful you don't have a thyroid problem as I do because that walks hand in hand with hypoglycemia(low blood sugar). I have to basically graze all day to keep my blood sugar in check. Diet is my only control.
Yikes. I feel for you. I've never really had to put much thought into what and when to eat before.
I think we've ruled out hyper/hypothyroidism, but with these doctors who the heck knows????
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Looking for a thyroid problem is easy. A simple blood test and since you were loosing weight if it showed up as out it would have been hyper. When your thyroid is slow which is my problem, I gained a bunch of weight. But once I was put on thyroid meds, the weight came off easily. The blood sugar problem showed up a while later and again was found through a blood test.
It is a pain to be sure. I take my thyroid med on an empty stomach then half hour later my seizure meds and breakfast then I stop for coffee while I am out on errands. Then I stop for lunch before coming home. Then I have an afternoon snack. Then supper usually after 5pm. My night seizure meds, I take around 9:30pm then I have a snack around 11pm. That's my routine.
I've been doing this routine over 20years.
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Looking for a thyroid problem is easy. A simple blood test and since you were loosing weight if it showed up as out it would have been hyper. When your thyroid is slow which is my problem, I gained a bunch of weight. But once I was put on thyroid meds, the weight came off easily. The blood sugar problem showed up a while later and again was found through a blood test.
Oh... well if that's the case, I don't have it. They tested my blood for it and it was good. I didn't know if there were other places it could hide though. I'm a dummy.

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It is a pain to be sure. I take my thyroid med on an empty stomach then half hour later my seizure meds and breakfast then I stop for coffee while I am out on errands. Then I stop for lunch before coming home. Then I have an afternoon snack. Then supper usually after 5pm. My night seizure meds, I take around 9:30pm then I have a snack around 11pm. That's my routine.I've been doing this routine over 20years.
The longer I stick around here it would seem the more we're walking in just about the same shoes more or less, huh?
I'm sure it will be a struggle at first, but things will work out fine. They almost always do once I screw my head on straight. This one is going to force the issue. It's probably what I needed, and definitely what I deserved.

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Just had the best workout I've had in 20 years. My 3rd for the day.
I'm up to about 15 straight minutes with zero break in between with the dumb bells with 10 different exercises (Only 10lbs, but up to 20-25 reps each depending on the exercise), followed by getting on the yoga mat to do 20 push ups, 60 crunchies, and two yoga leg lifts. I even went back and finished it off with another 12 reps of curls and shoulder lifts with my 20lb dumb bells when I was done. Muscles are toast when I'm done, but I'm hardly breathing heavy at all anymore when I'm finished when 2+ weeks ago doing less than half of this was leaving me super winded.
Dinner is cooking now. I'm going to start dialing that back to a more normal time at night now that I'm eating 3 times a day again. I know 9:30PM is still too late to be eating dinner, but it's sure better than sometime after Midnight.
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Altho I still sound froggy and my nose is still crazy-stuffed, I no longer feel tired and sick.
So it took me three days but the front yard has been weed whacked. Again. I hope the neighbors are less pissed at me.
I'm waiting for a landscaper to get back in touch with me, as I have no illusions about, or desire to, relandscape the entire front yard by myself! But landscapers, like handymen, seem to be scarcer than hen's teeth. I've had three come by. One gave me a quote and we scheduled the work but he eventually was a no-call no-show. One provided a quote, and I may go back to him even tho he was more expensive than the guy I picked. The last guy has yet to even give me a quote, even tho he was here a week ago. (I just texted him a reminder)
In the meantime I did some exploratory digging to find where the oak tree roots are, and didn't find any on my planned "dry stream bed/swale" (so far) which is meant to carry water away from the downspout and let it infiltrate farther away from the house. And I just bought some mason's string, survey stakes and a line-level so I can re-grade the yard and make sure water will flow in the right direction.
The backyard is an explosion of flowers thanks to the abundant rainfall. The white Lady Banks rose is blooming in sprays of small white roses, the Joseph's Coat climbing rose is full of its roses of multiple colors (some are yellow, some are pink, some red and some orange.) The bed below is filled with nasturtiums and borage that reseed themselves every year. Our neighbor's deep red bougainvillea is scrambling over the wall, and in a shady corner pink azalea is covered in flowers.
I sent a picture to my sisters and nieces and they thought it was lovely. One even decided to use it as her phone wallpaper!
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Looking for a thyroid problem is easy. A simple blood test and since you were loosing weight if it showed up as out it would have been hyper. When your thyroid is slow which is my problem, I gained a bunch of weight. But once I was put on thyroid meds, the weight came off easily. The blood sugar problem showed up a while later and again was found through a blood test.
Oh... well if that's the case, I don't have it. They tested my blood for it and it was good. I didn't know if there were other places it could hide though. I'm a dummy.Quote:
It is a pain to be sure. I take my thyroid med on an empty stomach then half hour later my seizure meds and breakfast then I stop for coffee while I am out on errands. Then I stop for lunch before coming home. Then I have an afternoon snack. Then supper usually after 5pm. My night seizure meds, I take around 9:30pm then I have a snack around 11pm. That's my routine. I've been doing this routine over 20years.
The longer I stick around here it would seem the more we're walking in just about the same shoes more or less, huh?
I'm sure it will be a struggle at first, but things will work out fine. They almost always do once I screw my head on straight. This one is going to force the issue. It's probably what I needed, and definitely what I deserved.

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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.
It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.
It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.
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Altho I still sound froggy and my nose is still crazy-stuffed, I no longer feel tired and sick.
So it took me three days but the front yard has been weed whacked. Again. I hope the neighbors are less pissed at me.
I'm waiting for a landscaper to get back in touch with me, as I have no illusions about, or desire to, relandscape the entire front yard by myself! But landscapers, like handymen, seem to be scarcer than hen's teeth. I've had three come by. One gave me a quote and we scheduled the work but he eventually was a no-call no-show. One provided a quote, and I may go back to him even tho he was more expensive than the guy I picked. The last guy has yet to even give me a quote, even tho he was here a week ago. (I just texted him a reminder)
In the meantime I did some exploratory digging to find where the three roots are,and didn't find any on my planned "dry stream bed/swale" which is meant to carry water away from the downspout and let it infiltrate farther away from the house. And I just bought some mason's string, survey stakes and a line-level so I can re-grade the yard and make sure water will flow in the right direction.
The backyard is an explosion of flowers thanks to the abundant rainfall. The white Lady Banks rose is blooming in sprays of small white roses, the Joseph's Coat climbing rose is full of its roses of multiple colors (some are yellow, some are pink, some read and some orange. The bed below is filled with nasturtiums and borage that reseed themselves every year. Our neighbor's burgundy bougainvillea is scrambling over the wall, and in a shade corner pink azalea is covered in flowers.
I sent a picture to my sisters and nieces and they thought it was lovely.
Yeah... That's crazy you can't find anybody to do the work for you. I wonder if there's a problem like that here. Maybe I could go into business for myself after I get these health issues squared away. I wish we lived on the same block, Sigs.
I'm glad you're feeling better and getting stuff done.

You should post a picture of your up here. It's been a while.
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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.
It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.
It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.
Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.

Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.
Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.

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Could be the other way around: there is stuff you should not eat. From today's news: “Our study suggests poor carbohydrate quality is a leading driver of diet-attributable type 2 diabetes globally,” says senior author Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, a professor of nutrition at Tufts University and professor of medicine at Tufts School of Medicine in Boston, in a statement.
I have a different idea. (I second-guess doctors all the time. My doctors hate me!)
What is our human evolutionary history? Well, at one point, when we diverged from the other great apes, we evolved on a seacoast near the Afar Triangle. I deduce this from certain aspects of our anatomy, and our requirements for iodine, fish oil, vitamin A, vitamin D, and salt which are MUCH higher compared to the -other- great apes. (You don't see gorillas with goiter and cretinism, for example, but it was very common among humans who lived away from the ocean, before iodine started being added to salt).
So, as gatherer-scavenger-hunters, what did we originally eat?
Well, little fish. Any edible root we could dig up. Frogs, lizards, snails, birds eggs. Shellfish (which we prolly learned to bash open with rocks). Edible green shoots. Any small, mostly sour little fruits as they came in season.
Then, when we moved inland, I hypothesize that we transferred our shell-bashing skills to break bones for marrow, opening up a niche for us that was only occupied by hyenas. (If you were to feed an ape, cat, or dog the amount of fat that humans ordinarily consume, they'd get pancreatitis. The human tolerance for fat is high)
It was only later that humans developed enough hunting skills to kill animals, and "red meat" entered our diet.
Over the four million years or so of hominid and human evolution, grains didn't come into the picture until about 15,000 years ago, when we became agriculturalists. But it did leave a genetic imprint- grains are easily dried and can be stored over winter, and allowed stable human populations to exist in temperate climates.
So, what did we get from this mixed-bag evolution?
Well, we still need iodine, salt, vitamins A and D, and fish oil. We are obligate omnivores: required to eat both meat (for B12, which herbivores ca)n synthesize, but we can't) and fresh vegtables or fruits (for vitamin C, which carnivores can synthesize, but we can't) As a species, we're generalists and are able to tolerate wide ranges of macrontrients (fat, carbohydrate and protein) but as individuals our tolerance varies from person to person.
But whatever we ate, it mostly came with lots of fiber. When we did eat fish, small animals or large game, THEIR diets depended on grass, or algae or sea)weed, or bugs, all of which are high in things like carotenes, polyphenols, omega-3 fatty acids etc. Unlike farm-raised animals which are fed hay, corn, and soy, which have little of the good-for-you stuff.
Altho our early diet was low-fat, we do tolerate lots of fat. One group- the Innuit- have survived for millenia on a diet of a little meat and lots and lots of blubber over 6-month winter. So it's an option, but not ideal.
But there are two things not found in a natural diet:
Concentrated sugars, and fat combined with carbs, especially highly refined starch or sugar.
And that is exactly what we crave:
Bread and butter
Potato chips
Pizza (bread dough with cheese and pepperoni fat)
Whipped cream and sugar
Ice cream
Donuts and pastries
Fried rice
French fries
Corn chips
The combination of fat + carbs is also responsible for worldwide malnutrition, since milled, refined flours stores for a long time (doesn't go rancid), similar to palm oil, palm kernel oil, and coconut oil. They're cheap, they keep, and they're bad for you.
Studies show that starch combined with fat makes blood sugar go up, and KEEPS blood sugar up.
So if you're going to eat carbs, make it beans, whole grains, and root vegetables, but keep it away from fat.
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147.2 after the morning ritual even after all the working out yesterday. Only got up to go to the bathroom once last night and only had a few sips of water when I did. Did not wake up thirsty this morning, but woke up because I had to go to the bathroom a second time. Got around 7.5 hours of sleep. One of the best nights of sleep in a long time.
Feeling pretty good. Not going to get excited about nothing this time though until the next Doctor visit.
So Dr. Endo was right. The 1000mg/dL reading was from the urinalysis and not the blood work. I was able to pull up my charts from last week and my glucose reading was 409mg/dL, which means it was only reduced a negligible 9mg/dL from the week prior. Initially I had thought the meds made me right the first time, but by the end of the week I knew something was still wrong.
I was kind of shocked that it only went down 9mg. I was keeping my weight stabilized and the thirst had gone down quite a bit, and I'd cut out the biggest offenders for sugar intake. But then I realized that even if SOME of the sugar I was eating was now being processed right with the first round of Metformin, the excess was just still being peed out (but just not as much) and the numbers were basically the same.
New regimen starts today. I'll get a few workouts in and mow my lawn in between. Maybe spray for weeds too since they're getting a little out of hand right now. Maybe.
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Hehe... No weed spray today. Rain's coming again.
I've got about 3 hours before I'm even going out to mow though. It's going to get up to 78 degrees today, but it's only 58 degrees at 11AM so it appears to be taking its sweet time about it.
If it rains by that time, oh well. I'll just put it off until Friday then enjoy the weekend with a high in the 40's again.
Welcome to the Midwest!
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Sis texted me yesterday to say it was SNOWING. She was disgusted, to put it mildly.
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147.2 after the morning ritual even after all the working out yesterday. Only got up to go to the bathroom once last night and only had a few sips of water when I did. Did not wake up thirsty this morning, but woke up because I had to go to the bathroom a second time. Got around 7.5 hours of sleep. One of the best nights of sleep in a long time.
Feeling pretty good. Not going to get excited about nothing this time though until the next Doctor visit.
So Dr. Endo was right. The 1000mg/dL reading was from the urinalysis and not the blood work. I was able to pull up my charts from last week and my glucose reading was 409mg/dL, which means it was only reduced a negligible 9mg/dL from the week prior. Initially I had thought the meds made me right the first time, but by the end of the week I knew something was still wrong.
I was kind of shocked that it only went down 9mg. I was keeping my weight stabilized and the thirst had gone down quite a bit, and I'd cut out the biggest offenders for sugar intake. But then I realized that even if SOME of the sugar I was eating was now being processed right with the first round of Metformin, the excess was just still being peed out (but just not as much) and the numbers were basically the same.
I think you're right about maxing out at about 400.
Have you got your meter, test strips,lancets and lancing device?
It sounds like you're feeling better tho! I wonder if you were motivating yourself thru essential lack of energy by drinking lots of coffee?
Speaking of coffee.... if you were nervous about what Dr Endo had to say, that could account for a higher than normal (for you) heart rate. But if it's CONSISTENTLY above 100 that's something a Dr would look into.
AFA that feeling in your chest that wakes you up... it could be some sort of heart arrhythmia that people often describe as a pounding, fluttering, or hollow feeling. That's a common side effect of too much coffee. If you've dialed back on the coffee those events might go away in a few weeks or a month.
Sounds like you're on the right track.
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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.
It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.
It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.
Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.
Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.
Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.
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I will say this be grateful people know and understand something about diabetes. As I said I have low blood sugar which is hypoglycemia and I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain it and why I usually turn down deserts and anything with too many carbs or watch the amount of sugar I eat.
My problem is the lesser known sibling of diabetes but I am still walking that line. Too much sugar and I feel sick and it takes a bit to clear out of my system.
You'll get used to it. It just takes a time. You can't rush your health.
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Quote:I used to have reactive hypoglycemia too. So uncomfortable! Shaky, cold, sweaty hands and anxiety and irritability. I could routinely trigger it by not eating for a long time and then eating something sweet. Stupid, huh?
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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.
It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.
It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.
Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.
Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.
Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.
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I will say this be grateful people know and understand something about diabetes. As I said I have low blood sugar which is hypoglycemia and I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain it and why I usually turn down deserts and anything with too many carbs or watch the amount of sugar I eat.
My problem is the lesser known sibling of diabetes but I am still walking that line. Too much sugar and I feel sick and it takes a bit to clear out of my system.
You'll get used to it. It just takes a time. You can't rush your health.
When I ate something sugary my blood sugar would shoot up, then I'd overproduce insulin and it would fall like a rock to well below normal.
When blood sugar falls too LOW your adrenal glands then kick in to cause your liver to release sugar into the bloodstream.
Definitely an imperfect response! When our OA, who wasn't managing her insulin at all well, would occasionally slip below 50 blood sugar, she would get glassy-eyed and behave like an angry drunk.
I could never understand the attraction if an "adrenaline rush". I thought they were uncomfortable.
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SIX: I recently calculated a diet for hubby with limit if somewhere between 85-110 g of net carbs per day. We'll see how it goes, but this is it:
Bfast. We don't eat bfast until around noon. A can of beans, a handful of cheese, a bit of oat bran, and whatever I want to dress it up with: salsa, bits of ham, leftover meatballs or chili seasoning mix, heated in microwave.
Meds
Snack: 1/2 c cooked oat bran (thick oatmeal Ok too) cooked in microwave and mixed with some milk and a spoonful of ground flax seed*
Raw veggies (hubby likes peppers, cauliflower, and radishes, but carrots, cabbage, broccoli, celery etc work too!) If still hungry, a handful of peanuts.
Dinner (7-8PM): 7 oz cooked meat, and low-starch vegetables cooked with a bit of oil. (Mixed frozen veggies are ok but limit corn and peas and potatoes)
Snack (10PM) sugar free pudding and a fruit. Peanuts if still hungry.
Meds
I'm following the same thing except I scale back on the beans and meat, and bc my blood sugar is ok I snack on low fat corn chips or something like.
It's a pretty strict diet and I'm hungry, but losing weight (which I need to). Hubby is sedentary, unlike you, and bc he fills in with peanuts he's losing weight, but very slowly.
I'll let you know how that works for his blood sugar. So far, so good.
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That's good that your thyroid is functioning like it should.
It does seem like it. I'm just the other end of the scale from you now.
It will be. But you have started off really well and that is what is important. Like I said you are willing to learn from the doctors and others around you.
Yeah. I might hem and haw about it, but I'll get there.
Feeling really good after working out and eating a fairly big meal with my upped dosage after that insulin shot this afternoon. I usually feel better at night then I do during the day though, so we'll see how tomorrow goes with the new regimen.
Hopefully I start putting on some muscle weight soon.
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I will say this be grateful people know and understand something about diabetes. As I said I have low blood sugar which is hypoglycemia and I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain it and why I usually turn down deserts and anything with too many carbs or watch the amount of sugar I eat.
My problem is the lesser known sibling of diabetes but I am still walking that line. Too much sugar and I feel sick and it takes a bit to clear out of my system.
You'll get used to it. It just takes a time. You can't rush your health.
When I ate something sugary my blood sugar would shoot up, then I'd overproduce insulin and it would fall like a rock to well below normal.
When blood sugar falls too LOW your adrenal glands then kick in to cause your liver to release sugar into the bloodstream.
Definitely an imperfect response! When our OA, who wasn't managing her insulin at all well, would occasionally slip below 50 blood sugar, she would get glassy-eyed and behave like an angry drunk.
I could never understand the attraction if an "adrenaline rush". I thought they were uncomfortable.
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It does suck and I've lived with it for 20years easy.
I've done the drunk walking thing with my mum one time. We had to go have lunch after that and I went through a glass of coke, a small bowl of soup and a bowl of spaghetti and meat sauce before I felt better. Then we walked home which might have been a bad idea but I thought was okay since I was feeling better. When I got home I still ate a bun with peanut butter on it and half a glass of pepsi.
I've also had the shakes and had temper flare ups when it has gone too low. Not fun at all.
Then one time a friend drove me out to Mission to see my dad's grave and we stopped at a Chinese place for lunch. There was so much sugar in the sweet and sour we had and then a few sips of pop on top of that and I wasn't feeling good. In the car back home, he looked at me and he said, "You know you are green." I wasn't feeling too good that was for sure. It's an hour's drive between Mission and the city I live in. By the time we got back I was feeling better. It took my body almost an hour to process the sugar in the little bit I did eat.
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Back from my walk and of course now it stops raining. Ugh! But got some groceries for supper tonight and anything else I'll do tomorrow.
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147.2 after the morning ritual even after all the working out yesterday. Only got up to go to the bathroom once last night and only had a few sips of water when I did. Did not wake up thirsty this morning, but woke up because I had to go to the bathroom a second time. Got around 7.5 hours of sleep. One of the best nights of sleep in a long time.
Feeling pretty good. Not going to get excited about nothing this time though until the next Doctor visit.
So Dr. Endo was right. The 1000mg/dL reading was from the urinalysis and not the blood work. I was able to pull up my charts from last week and my glucose reading was 409mg/dL, which means it was only reduced a negligible 9mg/dL from the week prior. Initially I had thought the meds made me right the first time, but by the end of the week I knew something was still wrong.
I was kind of shocked that it only went down 9mg. I was keeping my weight stabilized and the thirst had gone down quite a bit, and I'd cut out the biggest offenders for sugar intake. But then I realized that even if SOME of the sugar I was eating was now being processed right with the first round of Metformin, the excess was just still being peed out (but just not as much) and the numbers were basically the same.
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I think you're right about maxing out at about 400.
Yeah. I think the max has to be somewhere around there and/or DEAD. Even though the 500mg 2x of Metformin wasn't enough to get this under control in the beginning, there had been so many other positive changes like the regular working out, cutting out the major offenders of sugar, the higher level of energy, the stabilized weight, the lowered thirst leading to easier nights of sleeping... To still be right at 400 a week later was discouraging to say the least, but I think that has to be right around the cap.
I mean, I was constantly thirsty before the meds, and I was peeing at least 2.5 gallons of liquid per day before the medication. I was peeing about half of that or less per day after the meds, so even though it was still at 400, I just wasn't craving water so I could pee out the excess beyond that. (At least in my ignorant POV, right?)
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Have you got your meter, test strips,lancets and lancing device?
No. But I will. Promise.

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It sounds like you're feeling better tho! I wonder if you were motivating yourself thru essential lack of energy by drinking lots of coffee?
I bet I was. I did probably double my daily coffee intake the last 5-6 months or so from Summertime and before that.
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Speaking of coffee.... if you were nervous about what Dr Endo had to say, that could account for a higher than normal (for you) heart rate. But if it's CONSISTENTLY above 100 that's something a Dr would look into.
I'm always nervous at the doctor. I don't know how much that accounts for anything, but I'm sure at least a couple of BPM.
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AFA that feeling in your chest that wakes you up... it could be some sort of heart arrhythmia that people often describe as a pounding, fluttering, or hollow feeling. That's a common side effect of too much coffee. If you've dialed back on the coffee those events might go away in a few weeks or a month.
I don't think it's the coffee, just because I had this problem since my early 20's even when I wasn't drinking coffee. Back then, I blamed it on too much weed smoking, but since I haven't smoked weed in at least 8 years it can't be that either.
Well... I shouldn't say it's NOT the coffee and it WASN'T the weed back then. They could be contributing factors to the problem. Unfortunately, I've done searches online for the experience I feel when it's happening and I've never been able to come across anybody else explaining something that matches the sensation. Not even in medical forums where somebody
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Early rain put an end to ideas of mowing the lawn when it was warm out. Hopefully everything is dry enough for me to do it on Friday. Nasty thunderstorm blew our way but I think we missed the worst of it.
Only did 2 workouts today, but the one I just finished was the best yet.
Cooking my dinner at the same time again tonight as I did last night. I'll get it back earlier eventually.
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Mah jong in the morning for me and most likely in the rain. Again.
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It's so nice to be able to eat a larger dinner meal and not feel the need to down 1/4 gallon of water afterward.
The things we take for granted when we're healthy.
As a matter of fact, except for the swig of water I had left in my cup this morning when I woke up, all I've had to drink today was some coffee and some milk in cereal. That's amazing.
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Last night went more or less the same than the night before. Got up once to go to the bathroom and slept around 7 to 7.5 hours. Drank very little when I got up at night and wasn't thirsty when I woke up in the morning.
148.4lbs this morning after the ritual (NOTE TO SELF: Since this is almost becoming my day to day journal on the experience, this will be the last time I say that, and if I post my weight without saying anything to the contrary, it will just be assumed).
In just 2 days of insulin and 1 day of the other new meds, we're already back up to the highest I'd gotten on that first week of Metformin while I was eating quite a bit more. I should also note that last night before I went to bed the scale actually read 150.2 lbs, which is only the 2nd time since I've seen the first doctor and got the initial diagnosis that I've been above 150 lbs, again, this time without severe overeating to get that high.
If this keeps up, I'm going to probably have an easier time than I thought trying to figure what I'll eat every day, since it will require less than I was imagining it would. I've just been so used to overeating without any results for so long that I forgot how quickly you can put on weight when things are working right.
I'll start cutting back when I get up to 156 again, and then as I'm working out and figuring out how much of these meds I need to get stable, I'll re-adjust my caloric intake accordingly. I look great now... I don't want to put on a bunch of non-muscle weight super fast. Just enough to feed my body and help grow back some of the muscle that I lost. I'm not going to be power lifting, but I think that a lean 165lbs at my height would look great on me and be plenty to do all the physical work I need to do. In fact, I think that even at the 148lbs I'm at now I'd have an easier time than I did last year at 160 just because I'm doing regular exercise, including back exercises, and I think it's extremely unlikely that I would accidentally tweak my back again right now as long as I keep up with that.
Good luck at Mah Jong, Brenda. 
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Stupid...
There wasn't supposed to be any rain from now until 6PM if we made it through the 11AM hour, but it's pouring buckets out right now.
Probably won't be able to mow the lawn today now just because some stray clouds came by and dumped a quarter of an inch in 10 minutes.
Oh well........ :(
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Hey SIX, this is a Cliff Notes version of meds for diabetes. It lists all the oral meds by class and a quick summary of how each class works, and major side effects. I think your "G" med is in there somewhere.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/in-dept
h/diabetes-treatment/art-20051004
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No luck today at mah jong and oh SIX, Got rain up here too.
Though last week I couldn't go out once but today I did 4 times. So that was an improvement.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey SIX, this is a Cliff Notes version of meds for diabetes. It lists all the oral meds by class and a quick summary of how each class works, and major side effects. I think your "G" med is in there somewhere.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/in-dept
h/diabetes-treatment/art-20051004
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It's Glipizide 5mg.

Hey... Any chance you think my new blood sugar monitor is a broken and/or uncalibrated piece of shit?
I wasn't supposed to test until tomorrow morning before eating to see if I needed to up my insulin level, but I decided to give it a shot about an hour ago just to see how it works and what my level was.
Screwed up 2 test strips right away with an Err 4 and Err 6.
Finally got the third one to work and it says I'm at 505mg/dL. Tried it again about 1/2 hour later and it was 495mg/dL.
How the hell can that be possible? I've put on a few lbs despite the working out and my liquid intake is so much lower than it was before my diagnosis without any feelings of thirst throughout the day and night.
505 is about 100 more than my last two readings (at the hospital and at Dr. Endo) and means that I've got ketoacidosis going on and I should be in the ER.
I don't feel bad.
What gives?
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The meters are calibrated around 100. I don't have experience with readings that high, but my guess is that the only way to interpret the result is "way too fucking high". I think the lab result is prolly more accurate than the strip, bc theyll dilute the sample to be in-range.
But even at around 100, with strips you're still going to be about +/-5 or so, and about every 20th reading or so will throw out a spurious reading that needs to be re-done.
So I think what this is saying is that you're still maxed out on your glucose and need to add insulin, according to schedule.
Oh BTW, if you're liquid intake is lower, everything in your blood is more concentrated including glucose. You should be drinking the usually -recommended 6-8 * 8oz glasses per day (appx 1/2gallon) of water) preferably before 8 PM so it doesn't interfere with your sleep.
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The meters are calibrated around 100. I don't have experience with readings that high, but my guess is that the only way to interpret the result is "way too fucking high". I think the lab result is prolly more accurate than the strip, bc theyll dilute the sample to be in-range.
But even at around 100, with strips you're still going to be about +/-5 or so, and about every 20th reading or so will throw out a spurious reading that needs to be re-done.
I don't understand what you mean by "calibrated around 100". Could you explain that to me in layman's terms?
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So I think what this is saying is that you're still maxed out on your glucose and need to add insulin, according to schedule.
Perhaps not... See the end of the reply.
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Oh BTW, if you're liquid intake is lower, everything in your blood is more concentrated including glucose. You should be drinking the usually -recommended 6-8 * 8oz glasses per day (appx 1/2gallon) of water) preferably before 8 PM so it doesn't interfere with your sleep.
Oh. Okay. I thought it was good that I wasn't thirsty and wasn't drinking water. I assume coffee doesn't count.

I did some reading on the instructions... The LONG instructions....
There is no calibration required on this particular device. However, you are supposed to have extremely clean hands when you test, which I didn't even consider. Before those first two high results of 505 and 495 with the 2 error strips, I just did a real quick hand wash.
Just about 30 minutes ago I washed my hands thoroughly for over a minute and dried them with fresh paper towel instead of the towel I have hanging on the stove right where I cook all that rice every night.
I screwed up 2 more testing strips, but I did get a reading that was 308 the third time, which isn't 200 or below yet, but it IS a lot better than my last two readings at the hospital and the doctor and more in line with how I'm feeling, I would say.
So... My question now is, do you think there's any chance the meter could ever possibly give me a reading that is LOWER than what my sugar level currently is? (Hoping the answer to this question is no and/or negligible).
I think I just had some foreign shit on my fingertips that made those two readings a lot higher than they actually were.
I'm hoping that the 308 reading right now means that I'm at least down to 308.
Tomorrow morning when I test before eating/insulin/medicine, I will make sure to clean my hands with rubbing alcohol before testing.
ETA: Interesting...
Based off of all of the quick improvements (which were also aided by a change in diet and physical exercise too)< I thought that the effects of this medicine were basically immediate.
Mayo Clinic says that many people being put on Metformin/Insulin will see results in the first 1 or 2 weeks, but it can take 2 to 3 months to stabilize blood glucose levels.
If that 308 reading is legit, I feel a lot better about it after only 2 days since seeing Dr. Endo than I did before reading that. Maybe this isn't too bad. I always think the worst.
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Nah...
These things are bullshit. You're never going to get anything accurate out of them.
Even under the "best case" scenario, they say the meter is "accurate" if it's within +/-15%.
When you're legit at 300, that could mean a reading anywhere from 255 to 345. When you're at 400 that could mean 340 to 460. Even at 200 that could vary from 170 to 230.
How is that even useful? And why would the doctor send me home to test myself without any training or knowledge about these things and make that decision to up the insulin on my own when even under ideal circumstances I could easily be showing far greater or lesser than 200 tomorrow morning depending on which way the meter feels like reading?
Hell... since all they did was use one of these things at Dr. Endo on Tuesday, I could very well have been only 340 instead of 400 with that 15% in mind.
And if I "squeezed my finger too hard" to get the blood out, that can make the reading low.
Maybe when I get myself down in the low 100's and 15% doesn't matter that much it will have a use, but right now and with what I was directed to use it for I have zero faith in this thing and it was a complete waste of money.
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Nah...
These things are bullshit. You're never going to get anything accurate out of them.
Quote:It tells you that you're still way too high. That's useful.
Even under the "best case" scenario, they say the meter is "accurate" if it's within +/-15%.
When you're legit at 300, that could mean a reading anywhere from 265 to 345. When you're at 400 that could mean 340 to 460. How is that even useful?
Quote:You need more experience with it, that's all
And if I "squeezed my finger too hard" to get the blood out, that can make the reading low.
I have zero faith in this thing and it was a complete waste of money.
Hubby and I have used different meters with different strips for quite a while. (Me to check that my blood sugar- which is quite normal- doesn't go low, with all the shit I've been on.,)
At one point he took seven readings from the same drop of blood or a different poke at the same time, and came up with somewhere in the realm of (IIRC) appx 140 +/- 5.
Right B4 his spinal fusion they insisted he get his blood sugar DOWN, OR ELSE! they wouldn't do the operation and he didn't have enough strips so we tested my meter and strips against his meter and strips, and- in the realm of appx 140 they were within 6 of each other.
I was impressed!
Also, he has tested his blood sugar at different times of the day. As you might expect, sugar varies throughout the day. It the AM, before anything, is the most consistent. After he eats, it goes up. After he takes his meds, it goes down. After he does both, it's kind of a wash.
Counterintuitively, and fir reasons that would take far too long to explain, after STRENUOUS exercise for more than 30 minutes, it goes UP by appx 30 points. Getting different readings at different times of the day is expected. That's why you're supposed to test under the same conditions every day: before meds and before eating. (Generally, having fasted for 8-12 hours)
But for what they and how cheap they are, they're amazing little gizmos.
Washing your hands is important, but I just rinse mine for about 10 seconds and dry them before taking a reading (assuming my hands aren't extraordinarily dirty, like after gardening or cutting up a chicken, or something.)
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All analytic devices have a range thru which they can be expected to be linear. Back in the day, when glucose was measured by something called Fehling's solution, it would turn from blue to clear in the presence of sugar, and the less color the more sugar.
BUT, if there was way more glucose than Fehling's reagent, the color disappear but couldn't get any clearer than "clear", so there was a maximum amount of sugar that could be measured.
I don't know what's on the strips, but I assume it's some sort of color- developing reagent.
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There's no color in these strips.
They've got computer chips on the one end you put into the device,and you just press your finger to the yellow end of it that is sticking out and the device tells you the number.
I've had 5 errors, 505mg/dL, 495mg/dL and 308mg/dL.
Worthless.
I'm just going to keep using 15 units of insulin unless i feel lousy until I see him in 2 weeks.
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SECOND, there's no such thing as measurement by a chip.
There has to be SOME kind of sensor and there are only a few ways to measure chemicals: spectrophotometry (absorption of a wavelength, whether it's visible, IR or UV), conductance, direct mass measurement, or emission photometry, or the energy in fast-moving electrons or a few exotic nuclear techniques that I guarantee don't apply.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts it's some sort of spectrophotometry altho it might be in the UV or IR range where we can't see.
"Back in the day" each box (batch) of strips would come with a number on it, between 1 and 9, and you would have to tell the meter which number you were using. That was compensation for how much reagent was on each strip since manufacturing was a little inconsistent from batch to batch. They would also come with a solution of "100" so you could check your meter and strips.
The chip seems to allow for self-calibtation, but it doesn't change the basic technology.
Only measure in the AM before food or meds or even coffee. Rinse and dry your hands thoroughly. Write down your measurements every day and increase your insulin until you get closer to where you need to be. The meter will work well enough to get you in the ballpark of good health, and your doctor can help you fine tune your meds.
We have plenty of experience, it'll become easier and you'll get more consistent readings with experience.
EDITED TO ADD: I think you don't like the meter and strips bc the readings are scary. And you're looking for a reason not to have to deal with it directly. If I were seeing the same kinds of readings, I'd want someone else to deal with them. But you can control it, SIX, because you have knowledge and control of what to do with your meds. If you increase your insuln like you're supposed to, you WILL see readings come down over time, from where they are now down to 200 and even lower. It might take a week or two, but that's such a short time! That'll put you well into a spot where you and your body will be a lot more comfortable. Just breathe deep, and try again. You've tackled bigger and worse things before. I know you can do this. Chin up.
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Quote:Signym, tell 6ix to use something electronic that will give him continuous glucose readings: "With readings every minute and real-time optional alarms†, you will know when your glucose levels are too high or low. Start Your FREE Trial!"
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SECOND, there's no such thing as measurement by a chip. . . .
EDITED TO ADD: I think you don't like the meter and strips bc the readings are scary. And you're looking for a reason not to have to deal with it directly.
https://www.freestyle.abbott/us-en/myfreestyle-freestyle-libre-2.html
7 Best Glucose Monitors and Meters:
Best for blood-free readings
FreeStyle Libre
https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/best-glucose-monitors#our-p
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, there's no such thing as measurement by a chip.
There has to be SOME kind of sensor and there are only a few ways to measure chemicals: spectrophotometry (absorption of a wavelength, whether it's visible, IR or UV), conductance, direct mass measurement, or emission photometry, or the energy in fast-moving electrons or a few exotic nuclear techniques that I guarantee don't apply.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts it's some sort of spectrophotometry altho it might be in the UV or IR range where we can't see.
"Back in the day" each box (batch) of strips would come with a number on it, between 1 and 9, and you would have to tell the meter which number you were using. That was compensation for how much reagent was on each strip since manufacturing was a little inconsistent from batch to batch. They would also come with a solution of "100" so you could check your meter and strips.
The chip seems to allow for self-calibtation, but it doesn't change the basic technology.
Only measure in the AM before food or meds or even coffee. Rinse and dry your hands thoroughly. Write down your measurements every day and increase your insulin until you get closer to where you need to be. The meter will work well enough to get you in the ballpark of good health, and your doctor can help you fine tune your meds.
We have plenty of experience, it'll become easier and you'll get more consistent readings with experience.
EDITED TO ADD: I think you don't like the meter and strips bc the readings are scary. And you're looking for a reason not to have to deal with it directly. If I were seeing the same kinds of readings, I'd want someone else to deal with them. But you can control it, SIX, because you have knowledge and control of what to do with your meds. If you increase your insuln like you're supposed to, you WILL see readings come down over time, from where they are now down to 200 and even lower. It might take a week or two, but that's such a short time! That'll put you well into a spot where you and your body will be a lot more comfortable. Just breathe deep, and try again. You've tackled bigger and worse things before. I know you can do this. Chin up.
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Alright. I'll up the dose of insulin today. Doesn't hurt nothing.
My reading this morning (with zero failed attempts beforehand) was 390, which means it's anywhere from 330 to 450, which is decidedly not under 200.
What's your opinion on my working out right now? I hate being in this limbo where I don't even know if working out is helping me or killing me.
Tell Second I'll be looking into his link and other alternatives. It's 2023 and having to prick your finger like a savage a couple times of day for the rest of your life is bullshit.

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Quote:7 Best Glucose Monitors and Meters:
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Tell Second I'll be looking into his link and other alternatives. It's 2023 and having to prick your finger like a savage a couple times of day for the rest of your life is bullshit.
Best for blood-free readings
FreeStyle Libre
https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/best-glucose-monitors#our-p
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Well, this whole question of "how does a glucose meter work?" kind of put a bug in my ear. Good thing you didn't take me up on my dollars to donuts bet, bc I would have lost!
Having used one, or seen it used for YEARS, I finally ... FINALLY... looked it up, and the actual sensor is an electrode. Good old electrochemistry!
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It’s usually the job of the pancreas to keep track of sugar levels and to secrete glucagon and insulin to keep them at 100 or so milligrams per deciliter of blood. But for diabetics — either because their pancreas doesn’t function properly or because their body can’t process the hormones it secretes — glucose testing is a do-it-yourself proposition. And a crucial one. Blood-sugar checks show if it’s time to inject a few units of insulin — or grab a lifesaving snack.
That’s where the glucometer comes in. “Current glucometers use test strips containing glucose oxidase, an enzyme that reacts to glucose in the blood droplet, and an interface to an electrode inside the meter,” explains Michael Strano, the Charles and Hilda Roddey Associate Professor of Chemical Engineering at MIT. “When the strip is inserted into the meter, the flux of the glucose reaction generates an electrical signal,” he says. “The glucometer is calibrated so the number appearing in its digital readout corresponds to the strength of the electrical current: The more glucose in the sample, the higher the number.”
Periodic tests via glucometer play an important part in the diabetic’s treatment plan, but current models fall short in giving a true picture of glucose fluctuations in real time. “The complications of diabetes stem from the blood sugar going outside the safe range,” says Strano. Catching those times and intervening appropriately can, in theory, lessen the negative effects of the disease, which can include heart disease, blindness, limb amputation, and kidney failure.
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"They have been working on thru-the-skin readings for - literally - decades. It was one of the research projects hubby was working on almos 50 years ago. It wuld be GREAT if you could just clip a meter on your finger, like a pulse-ox meter, and get painless realtime near-continuous readings.
Unfortunately AFAIK there aren't any sensors that can read through intact skin. All of the continuous glucose monitors require that SOMEthing be stuck into your skin This is the only picture I could find of an actual sensor, which must be changed every 10-15 days

Here is a diagram

There is also an implantable one which overall looks more comfortable. Some people don't like the into-the-skin sensors bc they fall out or get sore or infected. And implantable sensor solves that problem.

The nice thing about continuos glucose monitoring is that it allows people to inject, or eat, as appropriate whne their blood glucose rises too high (like after a meal) or falls too low, Even better, it can be used with an insulin pump which, alas, also needs to be injected through a hole in the skin.
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If your fingers are sore and bruised after a blood sample, you may be holding the lancing device too hard against your skin. Also, most lancing devicescan be adjusted to depth, so you can pick the depth and pressure that works best. I find that I get the best sample with the least pain in the sides of my pinky and ring fingers. My other fingers are too calloused. So I rotate right hand -outside pinky, inside pinky, outside ring, inside ring, and then to my left hand.
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I had to pick a VERY deep depth. They said start at 2. I maxed it out to 5 this morning and finally got a good blood droplet without much squeezing to coax it out. 
I'll look into other possible ways to do this reading when that time comes. Dr. Endo said he hopes the insulin is just temporary, so we'll just see how this goes for now. We're still very early in the healing process.
Did you see my question about working out, Sigs? I feel a lot better now that I've been doing it, but I skipped my workout last night (partly because I'm a little worried with the glucose level still so high, and partly because I haven't taken a single day off of at least 2 if not 3 or 4 sessions and I figured taking one night off might not be a bad idea).
Anyhow... Going to take my shot and my meds shortly.
I was 148lbs even this morning.
(It would have been the first week of March when people were telling me I looked skinny and I found out I got down to 156lbs when I know I had weighed myself last in November and was over 170lbs. I WAS kind of chubby from the winter blues and there wasn't any muscle definition to be found on my body in November. In fact, even when I was working a lot on the house and in pretty great shape by the end of last summer in the high 150lbs range, I still didn't come close to the muscle definition I have right now.)
April 01st: 146.0 (When I decided I had to eat a lot more than I was eating)
April 03rd: 149.0
April 08th: 143.8 (The day I declared that I was dying, still losing weight even though I was eating way more than 2k calories per day.)
April 10th: 145.0 (Day before initial diagnosis and 500mg Metformin 2x per day, but also day after Easter where I ate what had to be 5000 calories and I weighed over 150 the night before I went to bed)
April 12th: 146.4 (Day after diagnosis/Metformin 500mg 2x)
April 13th: 148.0
April 14th: 146.8
April 17th: 145.6 (Day before Endo/1000mg Metformin 2x, 15units insulin 1x, 5mg Glipizide 1x)
April 19th: 147.2 (Day after Endo/1000mg Metformin 2x, 15units insulin 1x, 5mg Glipizide 1x)
April 20th: 148.4 (308mg/dL reading in the evening)
April 21st: 148.0 (390mg/dL reading first thing in the morning / First day upping insulin to 18 units 1x)
We're trending right, anyhow. Rome wasn't built in a day. 
It looks as though I started working out again on either April 8th or 9th, from a post I made on the 10th. That sounds right. I was pretty sure it had been 2 full weeks by now.
Workouts were hard and not very long at first, leaving me really winded by the time I was done with only about 5 minutes of 5 or 6 different exercises without breaks in between with the 10lb dumb bells.
Now the workouts are roughly 15 minutes with a lot more reps and workouts added, including push ups, crunchies, and some yoga leg lifts to finish them off, sometimes going back to 20lb dumb bells for some shoulder/back/bicep reps until I can't even move my arms anymore. I'm winded by the time this is done too, but recovery is much quicker than it was on the 8th/9th.
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Quote:A reading above 300 mg/dL can be dangerous, according to the University of Michigan, which recommends immediately informing your doctor if you have two or more readings of 300 mg/dL in a row.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
April 20th: (308mg/dL reading in the evening)
April 21st: (390mg/dL reading first thing in the morning)
https://www.everydayhealth.com/type-2-diabetes/high-and-low-blood-suga
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9 Signs Your Blood Sugar Is Out of Control
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Originally posted by second:Quote:A reading above 300 mg/dL can be dangerous, according to the University of Michigan, which recommends immediately informing your doctor if you have two or more readings of 300 mg/dL in a row.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
April 20th: (308mg/dL reading in the evening)
April 21st: (390mg/dL reading first thing in the morning)
https://www.everydayhealth.com/type-2-diabetes/high-and-low-blood-suga
r/
9 Signs Your Blood Sugar Is Out of Control
https://www.everydayhealth.com/hs/type-2-diabetes-management/blood-sug
ar-uncontrolled-pictures/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Yeah. Thanks. This has been pointed out to me by 3 people before you mentioned it.
None of them were my doctors, who both were aware that they sent me out of their offices with 400mg/dL +
The first doctor from the hospital immediate care sent me home with a referral to the endocrinologist, the scrip for 500mg Metformin twice per day and zero information about dieting or any other guidance.
He wanted me to see the endocrinologist 1 or 2 days after the visit, but it was a full week before I got to see him.
Then the endocrinologist put me on 1000mg Metformin twice per day, 5mg of Glipizide, 15 "units" of insulin, and a directive to up the insulin 3 "units" every 3 days if I still am not testing under 200mg/dL. A follow up visit was scheduled for 2 weeks, with no directive to call him if numbers were over 300 or close to 400 still.
So yeah... This is still pretty bad as far as the meter is reading even though my weight seems to have stabilized, my "splotchy" complexion on my face appears to have cleared up, the gauntness of my cheeks seems to have filled in nicely, my energy levels are up quite a bit since before the meds started and my level of thirst went through the floor compared to the 2.5 or more gallons of liquid I was drinking every day.
But the doctors don't seem to worry too much about it. I'm not sure why since everything online says that I should be calling a doctor with the levels I've still got.
I probably shouldn't assume that they know what they're doing. I dunno. Maybe I'll just follow the plan through the weekend and contact somebody on Monday to give a status update and see what they say.
Incidentally, I'm looking forward to seeing my brother again. I hadn't seen him in months and after I was with them on Easter he told my dad he was glad I finally decided I was going to get checked out because I looked like I had AIDS. I appreciate his candor, because now I know I can get an honest answer from him about how I look when I see him next time.
It's easy to lie to yourself about how good/bad you actually look.
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Er... I missed your question about working out.
Workouts are good, but keep them less than 15 minutes. For reasons that are hard to explain*, working out strenuously for more than 15-20 minutes INCREASES blood glucose. Hubby would play tennis like a demon for 5 hours, or do heavy-duty wood planing by hand for 5 hours and find, to his dismay, that his blood sugar would go UP 30 points after working or exercising so hard for so long!
* here's the explanation, if you're interested: Strenuous physical effort for extended periods of time is perceived by your body as STRESS. Under stress, you produce cortisol. And cortisol prompts your liver to dump sugar into your bloodstream. A lot of articles point to cortisol as an "aging" factor that increases belly fat. So, like my g'ma used to say: "Do, but don't overdo".
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Out for my walk in the rain then I have to get the kitchen garbage out. Nothing serious I've just been putting it off for a bit.
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Finding every so often I almost forget to put my denture in in the morning.
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Now that I'm feeling better I'm back to making progress in all directions. I FINALLY got a crew to do the front yard cleanup! They're working on it right now. When that's done I'm going to finish moving some dirt around, and then I can put carboard and mulch down to keep the weeds at bay.
Waiting for my surveyor's stakes to come in to go with my mason's string and line level.
Also been listening to online workshops on a variety of low-water landscaping projects (while doing dishes)-
rainwater havesting and how to grade your yard and various ways to move and infiltrate water,
plants suitable for a swale,
lansdcaping for bees, butterfiles and birds;
landscape design
... and so forth and I FINALLY have a plan gelling!
Gonna need to get some cobble from my sis's yard, tho!
Got in touch with our auto insurance to reduce the yearly mileage on our vehicles which will save us some $$.
Saw my cardio yesterday and my echo is good; so far the cancer treatment hasn't had the expected cardiotoxic side effect, and the farther I get from treatment the less likely it is. Now she wants to tackle my (hereditary) high cholesterol with a different med since I'm so intolerant of statins and I've done all of the "modifications" that I can do at this point. Also I noticed some calcifications in various tests (xray for foot fracture, ultrasound for kidney, and catscan/PETscan for cancer) that don't belong, radiologist recommended a follow up with my PCP. I can think of a few conditions that can cause that: excess vitamin D springs to mind, but I'm gonna let my Dr handle that! There are a few other findings that need followup but that's for another day.
Gonna FINALLY review the contractor proposals and get back to them with any questions I might have. I've been keeping in touch with them leting them know they're still on our list, the delay is on our end, but now's the time to do my due diligence and evaluate them (like I used to evaluate proposals at work!)
So, chipping away at stuff here and there.
Onward thru the fog!
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Damn. You're getting a lot done.
I'm not getting much done at all around here. Just taking it easy hoping that I can stabilize things a bit. Taking a day off of working out too. Got a cold weekend ahead of us. The lawn can wait until next week.
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Back from my walk and of course it is now dry and the sun is out. What terrible spring it is up here.
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Quote:Looking back on what most helped him return to life after the stroke, Walt Whitman echoes Seneca’s wisdom on calibrating our expectations for contentment and writes:
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Just taking it easy hoping that I can stabilize things a bit.
The trick is, I find, to tone your wants and tastes low down enough, and make much of negatives, and of mere daylight and the skies. […] After you have exhausted what there is in business, politics, conviviality, love, and so on — have found that none of these finally satisfy, or permanently wear — what remains? Nature remains; to bring out from their torpid recesses, the affinities of a man or woman with the open air, the trees, fields, the changes of seasons — the sun by day and the stars of heaven by night.
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Quote:Oh, well, that's an accumulation of a week's worth of activity.
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Damn. You're getting a lot done.
I'm not getting much done at all around here. Just taking it easy hoping that I can stabilize things a bit. Taking a day off of working out too. Got a cold weekend ahead of us. The lawn can wait until next week.
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Hey, you're dealing with an unexpected and serious kink in your health. And health comes first!
But just in case your mind becomes a hamster on a hamster wheel of worry... just give yourself a project or two to think about. Nothing too consequential or worrisome, just to give your mind a break from your current crisis.
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Quote:Well, naturally!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Back from my walk and of course it is now dry and the sun is out. What terrible spring it is up here.
BTW it was 90F (32C) today. We blasted straight into summer, at least for a couple of days. So I'm doing "indoor work" for the next couple of days, and Monday hubby has a Dr appt that I will accompany, so outdoor work will have to wait until Tuesday I guess.
Sigh. Everything takes longer than I think it should!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Looking back on what most helped him return to life after the stroke, Walt Whitman echoes Seneca’s wisdom on calibrating our expectations for contentment and writes:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just taking it easy hoping that I can stabilize things a bit.
The trick is, I find, to tone your wants and tastes low down enough, and make much of negatives, and of mere daylight and the skies. […] After you have exhausted what there is in business, politics, conviviality, love, and so on — have found that none of these finally satisfy, or permanently wear — what remains? Nature remains; to bring out from their torpid recesses, the affinities of a man or woman with the open air, the trees, fields, the changes of seasons — the sun by day and the stars of heaven by night.
I like that.
I think we all need to go outside and touch the grass more often.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, well, that's an accumulation of a week's worth of activity.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Damn. You're getting a lot done.
I'm not getting much done at all around here. Just taking it easy hoping that I can stabilize things a bit. Taking a day off of working out too. Got a cold weekend ahead of us. The lawn can wait until next week.
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Hey, you're dealing with an unexpected and serious kink in your health. And health comes first!
But just in case your mind becomes a hamster on a hamster wheel of worry... just give yourself a project or two to think about. Nothing too consequential or worrisome, just to give your mind a break from your current crisis.
I'm already going to ask my Dad to come over this week to force me to clean the house.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, naturally!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Back from my walk and of course it is now dry and the sun is out. What terrible spring it is up here.
BTW it was 90F (32C) today. We blasted straight into summer, at least for a couple of days. So I'm doing "indoor work" for the next couple of days, and Monday hubby has a Dr appt that I will accompany, so outdoor work will have to wait until Tuesday I guess.
Sigh. Everything takes longer than I think it should!
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I know, right.
Man, my area isn't suppose to dry out until Monday and then we might hit the 20s by Wednesday which is 70F. That's if we are lucky.
I have a dental appointment on Tuesday and it should be dry then. I hope so. One more back area on the left that needs dealing with. Lower jaw. Not sure if it is root tip or just pieces of a broken tooth. Anyways it will be a relief.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, naturally!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Back from my walk and of course it is now dry and the sun is out. What terrible spring it is up here.
BTW it was 90F (32C) today. We blasted straight into summer, at least for a couple of days. So I'm doing "indoor work" for the next couple of days, and Monday hubby has a Dr appt that I will accompany, so outdoor work will have to wait until Tuesday I guess.
Sigh. Everything takes longer than I think it should!
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
I know, right.
Man, my area isn't suppose to dry out until Monday and then we might hit the 20s by Wednesday which is 70F. That's if we are lucky.
I have a dental appointment on Tuesday and it should be dry then. I hope so. One more back area on the left that needs dealing with. Lower jaw. Not sure if it is root tip or just pieces of a broken tooth. Anyways it will be a relief.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Well, naturally!
Originally posted by Brenda:
Back from my walk and of course it is now dry and the sun is out. What terrible spring it is up here.
BTW it was 90F (32C) today. We blasted straight into summer, at least for a couple of days. So I'm doing "indoor work" for the next couple of days, and Monday hubby has a Dr appt that I will accompany, so outdoor work will have to wait until Tuesday I guess.
Sigh. Everything takes longer than I think it should!
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
I know, right.
Man, my area isn't suppose to dry out until Monday and then we might hit the 20s by Wednesday which is 70F. That's if we are lucky.
I have a dental appointment on Tuesday and it should be dry then. I hope so. One more back area on the left that needs dealing with. Lower jaw. Not sure if it is root tip or just pieces of a broken tooth. Anyways it will be a relief.
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Hey, we're back up. 
Good luck at the Dentist on Tuesday, Brenda. 
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I was going to post late last night that I got on the scale a few hours after dinner and I was 151.6! The last time I even hit 150 was when I ate everything I could shovel in my mouth on Easter with over 1/2 gallon of water and the next morning I was right back down to 145.
Just did my morning weight and I'm 149.0. 
That's still a lot of water I shed at night. I know I'm not supposed to be drinking liquids several hours before I sleep, but I don't know if I'm ever going to do that one right. 2.6lbs is about 1/3rd of a gallon of water, which is roughly 2 to 2.5 times more than I should be (Although, not all of that loss was liquid). But this is still very much in line with what I've been doing for years before this diagnosis, and should probably be considered (mostly) a separate issue. And apparently they have a name for it... Nocturia Ployuria.
I drink a lot of coffee, and I know I drink liquids later in the night than I should. Some of this might still be diabetes related, but I don't think so, just because I'm not waking up thirsty and drinking more water. In fact, I have no memory at all last night of drinking any water after I went to sleep.
I got up once again, but it was technically twice and I just didn't bother going back to sleep again after around 6.5-7.0 hours sleep. If I could cut back just enough liquid at night where I could get a full 8 hours with only one bathroom interruption I think I can live with that quite nicely.
April 01st: 146.0 (When I decided I had to eat a lot more than I was eating)
April 03rd: 149.0
April 08th: 143.8 (The day I declared that I was dying, still losing weight even though I was eating way more than 2k calories per day.)
April 10th: 145.0 (Day before initial diagnosis and 500mg Metformin 2x per day, but also day after Easter where I ate what had to be 5000 calories and I weighed over 150 the night before I went to bed)
April 12th: 146.4 (Day after diagnosis/Metformin 500mg 2x)
April 13th: 148.0
April 14th: 146.8
April 17th: 145.6 (Day before Endo/1000mg Metformin 2x, 15units insulin 1x, 5mg Glipizide 1x)
April 19th: 147.2 (Day after Endo/1000mg Metformin 2x, 15units insulin 1x, 5mg Glipizide 1x / This is the day that I stopped intentionally overeating)
April 20th: 148.4 (308mg/dL reading in the evening / Only 1 workout in morning*)
April 21st: 148.0 (390mg/dL reading first thing in the morning / First day upping insulin to 18 units 1x / Also, first day in 2 weeks without any workout*)
April 22nd: 149.0
*From April 9th onward, at least 2 workout routines were completed every day unless otherwise noted.
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Hey, we're back up.
Good luck at the Dentist on Tuesday, Brenda.
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So, I see.
That's why the triple post from me. It went funky just as I was posting that to SIG.
It should be okay at the dentist. Have to see. Not sure what they are pulling because to me it feels like a broken tooth. They will tell me before they get going on me.
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Out for my walk in a bit. It is now dry and we will see how long it hangs around.
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Quote:IDK about everybody else, but I routinely dump 3-4 lbs of water at night. Part of it is bc my legs swell up during the day a little bit (incompetent veun valves allow blood to stagnate a bit in my legs) so when I get horizontal the fluid flows to my kidneys to get dumped. Part of it is I'm thirsty in the evening so I drink about three cups of water within an hour or two of bedtime. So I pee at least once at night and usually twice.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I was going to post late last night that I got on the scale a few hours after dinner and I was 151.6! The last time I even hit 150 was when I ate everything I could shovel in my mouth on Easter with over 1/2 gallon of water and the next morning I was right back down to 145.
Just did my morning weight and I'm 149.0.
That's still a lot of water I shed at night. I know I'm not supposed to be drinking liquids several hours before I sleep, but I don't know if I'm ever going to do that one right. 2.6lbs is about 1/3rd of a gallon of water, which is roughly 2 to 2.5 times more than I should be (Although, not all of that loss was liquid). But this is still very much in line with what I've been doing for years before this diagnosis, and should probably be considered (mostly) a separate issue. And apparently they have a name for it... Nocturia Ployuria.
But a pound of that is sheer evaporation from my lungs. When pll exhale they don't just exhale air, they exhake warm MOIST air. So even w/o peeing I lose a pound. And don't forget, there is fair bit if weight and water in stool, too.
Your AM weight loss isn't enough to worry about, I don't think.
When it gets to be in the realm of 5+ pounds they start thinking about early heart failure. But that's not you.

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April 01st: 146.0 (When I decided I had to eat a lot more than I was eating)
April 03rd: 149.0
April 08th: 143.8 (The day I declared that I was dying, still losing weight even though I was eating way more than 2k calories per day.)
April 10th: 145.0 (Day before initial diagnosis and 500mg Metformin 2x per day, but also day after Easter where I ate what had to be 5000 calories and I weighed over 150 the night before I went to bed)
April 12th: 146.4 (Day after diagnosis/Metformin 500mg 2x)
April 13th: 148.0
April 14th: 146.8
April 17th: 145.6 (Day before Endo/1000mg Metformin 2x, 15units insulin 1x, 5mg Glipizide 1x)
April 19th: 147.2 (Day after Endo/1000mg Metformin 2x, 15units insulin 1x, 5mg Glipizide 1x / This is the day that I stopped intentionally overeating)
April 20th: 148.4 (308mg/dL reading in the evening / Only 1 workout in morning*)
April 21st: 148.0 (390mg/dL reading first thing in the morning / First day upping insulin to 18 units 1x / Also, first day in 2 weeks without any workout*)
April 22nd: 149.0
*From April 9th onward, at least 2 workout routines were completed every day unless otherwise noted.
Your weight is steadily heading in the right direction and bc you're working out I think it's muscle. Yanno, good weight.
Just keep adding insulin according to protocol and keep checking your blood sugar bc at some point it may go too low.
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Back and it and it rained a bit on my way back and of course the usual. Sun is out now. Stupid Spring.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:IDK about everybody else, but I routinely dump 3-4 lbs of water at night. Part of it is bc my legs swell up during the day a little bit (incompetent veun valves allow blood to stagnate a bit in my legs) so when I get horizontal the fluid flows to my kidneys to get dumped. Part of it is I'm thirsty in the evening so I drink about three cups of water within an hour or two of bedtime. So I pee at least once at night and usually twice.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I was going to post late last night that I got on the scale a few hours after dinner and I was 151.6! The last time I even hit 150 was when I ate everything I could shovel in my mouth on Easter with over 1/2 gallon of water and the next morning I was right back down to 145.
Just did my morning weight and I'm 149.0.
That's still a lot of water I shed at night. I know I'm not supposed to be drinking liquids several hours before I sleep, but I don't know if I'm ever going to do that one right. 2.6lbs is about 1/3rd of a gallon of water, which is roughly 2 to 2.5 times more than I should be (Although, not all of that loss was liquid). But this is still very much in line with what I've been doing for years before this diagnosis, and should probably be considered (mostly) a separate issue. And apparently they have a name for it... Nocturia Ployuria.
But a pound of that is sheer evaporation from my lungs. When pll exhale they don't just exhale air, they exhake warm MOIST air. So even w/o peeing I lose a pound. And don't forget, there is fair bit if weight and water in stool, too.
Your AM weight loss isn't enough to worry about, I don't think.
When it gets to be in the realm of 5+ pounds they start thinking about early heart failure. But that's not you.
Right... I did forget about exhalation being a factor in weight loss since I've been so hyper-focused on the liquid. Of course. Duh. I just sent a video to my old man about that a few weeks ago to watch and send to both of my brothers (before I got my own diagnosis).
When I was saying that my weight loss at night is 2 to 2.5 times what it should be, I was only considering the amount of urine that one should void when they wake up in the morning (after a full night of sleep without getting up to pee), which would be only about 1/3 of what I lose in a night now that things are being regulated. But yeah, that doesn't take into account your carbon dioxide/h2o exhalation and stool.
I really do want to get it so I only wake up once in 8 hours though, and that second time I get up to go isn't getting me up 60 to 90 minutes earlier than I want to get up for the day.
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Your weight is steadily heading in the right direction and bc you're working out I think it's muscle. Yanno, good weight.
Just keep adding insulin according to protocol and keep checking your blood sugar bc at some point it may go too low.
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I don't think I'm imagining things when my arms and shoulders just look bigger already. I'm not using heavy weights, but when you go from zero legitimate workout sessions for 20 years to doing it 2-3 times a day nearly every day for 2 weeks you get some pretty immediate results. Until I got sick I didn't lose much of the muscle mass because I'm doing a lot of physical work, but there really is nothing like shocking your muscles everyday with dedicated and targeted exercises.
And my back feels GREAT, BTW... I can't tell you how many times they've just "cracked" while stretching and doing warmumps. Seems to happen just a little less every day, and hopefully I get my body back to where it hardly happens at all. All of those "cracks" are potential tweaks when you're doing hard labor and you don't regularly stretch and exercise.
Ask me how I know...

Now that I've added in some leg exercises, I can even tell that they're firming up
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I'm beginning to wonder if upping that insulin to 18 and/or just having been diagnosed two weeks ago and all the meds/food/activity change is finally starting to stabilize things.
I haven't even eaten dinner yet and I just weighed myself at 150.2. There is a possibility that I might see north of 152 tonight which would get me a hell of a lot closer to the weight I had fallen to when people started to comment that I had lost weight instead of the 143.4 I'd gotten down to when I decided I needed help.
I know that's not my REAL number since the numbers I'm officially recording are in the mornings, but at this point any 1lb barrier crossed is exciting to me.
Interesting to note, even when I was down to 143, at my height, that was still a BMI of 22.4, which is on the higher end of "healthy weight" for my size. My current 149 in the morning is a 23.3. When I get back up to 156, that will be toward the very top of "healthy weight".
Ideally, I want to be back to 165 and a muscular build. That would be considered "Overweight" by 0.8. Obviously it's not a perfect system because you're not overweight for your height if you have an athletic build, but I did find it interesting that even when I had been withering away before the diagnosis that I was still nearly 25lbs heavier than what would have been considered "Underweight" for my height.
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My layman's guess SIX is that you are starting to stabilize. To me 2 weeks is time enough for that to start happening.
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Yeah. I think so, Brenda. I'll be checking my blood sugar Monday morning, so hopefully I'm finally under 300 this time. I'm feeling better, but outside of my workouts I'm not really doing all that much right now.
I was 151.4 after eating, so no dice on 152 tonight.
I still don't really eat breakfast. Maybe it's kind of a waste to be frontloading all of the meds in the morning with just a banana when I don't really eat until afternoon and night time.
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150.2 
I'm still feeling a little "full" down there though. Probably not a legit morning read.
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Yeah. I think so, Brenda. I'll be checking my blood sugar Monday morning, so hopefully I'm finally under 300 this time. I'm feeling better, but outside of my workouts I'm not really doing all that much right now.
I was 151.4 after eating, so no dice on 152 tonight.
I still don't really eat breakfast. Maybe it's kind of a waste to be frontloading all of the meds in the morning with just a banana when I don't really eat until afternoon and night time.
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This is just my opinion and from my own experience with my seizure meds, you probably should be having breakfast. Some medications work better on a full stomach and I think diabetes meds are one of them.
I eat with my seizure meds but that is because they can do damage if you don't protect your stomach.
So 3 meals a day I think would be good for you.
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Sunday and I got to check something on my book proposal. I am hoping to have it all together and off to the lady who is helping me this week.
Wish me luck.
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Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. I think so, Brenda. I'll be checking my blood sugar Monday morning, so hopefully I'm finally under 300 this time. I'm feeling better, but outside of my workouts I'm not really doing all that much right now.
I was 151.4 after eating, so no dice on 152 tonight.
I still don't really eat breakfast. Maybe it's kind of a waste to be frontloading all of the meds in the morning with just a banana when I don't really eat until afternoon and night time.
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This is just my opinion and from my own experience with my seizure meds, you probably should be having breakfast. Some medications work better on a full stomach and I think diabetes meds are one of them.
I eat with my seizure meds but that is because they can do damage if you don't protect your stomach.
So 3 meals a day I think would be good for you.
Yeah. You're probably right. The doctor's probably didn't mention it just because they assume everybody eats at least 3 times per day.
It's strange eating twice and having a banana first thing when I wake up.
Good luck with the book!

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We don't eat bfast until around noon, so we don't take our meds until then. Since some meds are twice a day, we don't take meds until bedtime - around midnight.
WHEN we are asked to fast (no bfast) due to a procedure that requires anesthesia or sedation, they always tell us to HOLD OUR MORNING ORAL DIABETES MEDICATION bc they're afraid that blood sugar will fall too low.
I think insulin is a little different.
I found this:
Quote:Maybe used in the ER??
Rapid-acting insulin: This type starts to work just 15 minutes after you take it. It peaks within 60 minutes, and its effects last for 3 to 5 hours.
Quote:Possibly used just before or with a big meal to manage blood sugar peaks?
Short-acting insulin: This type takes about 30 to 60 minutes to become active in your bloodstream. It peaks in 2 to 3 hours, and its effects can last for 3 to 6 hours. It is sometimes called regular-acting insulin.
Quote:I'm not sure what the use would be. For overnight?? For twice a day?
Intermediate-acting insulin: The intermediate type takes 2 to 4 hours to start working. It peaks in 8 hours and works for 12 to 16 hours.
Quote:This kind seems to make sense for daily dosing, since it takes the longest to get going and lasts the longest.
Long-acting insulin: This type takes the longest amount of time to start working. The insulin can take 2 to 4 hours to get into your bloodstream.
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Pre-mixed: This is a combination of two different types of insulin: one that controls blood sugar at meals and another that controls blood sugar between meals.
https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/long-acting-insulin
There were a couple of ppl at work who were insulin dependent. I knew they injected just before meals, but they also used a longer-acring insulin regularly.
Anyway I suspect you're on a longer-acting kind and that's to give the oral meds a chance to start working, so maybe not so important when you eat.
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Your assumptions were right. (I didn't even know there were different types until you mentioned that, so thanks.)
Looking that up inadvertently provided what might be even more good news. Apparently my insulin is not approved for Type I diabetes.
I'm not saying I don't have Type I until the doctors say it, but all the drugs I'm on including the insulin appear to only treat Type II and I am making obvious improvements over the last 12 days.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. I think so, Brenda. I'll be checking my blood sugar Monday morning, so hopefully I'm finally under 300 this time. I'm feeling better, but outside of my workouts I'm not really doing all that much right now.
I was 151.4 after eating, so no dice on 152 tonight.
I still don't really eat breakfast. Maybe it's kind of a waste to be frontloading all of the meds in the morning with just a banana when I don't really eat until afternoon and night time.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
This is just my opinion and from my own experience with my seizure meds, you probably should be having breakfast. Some medications work better on a full stomach and I think diabetes meds are one of them.
I eat with my seizure meds but that is because they can do damage if you don't protect your stomach.
So 3 meals a day I think would be good for you.
Yeah. You're probably right. The doctor's probably didn't mention it just because they assume everybody eats at least 3 times per day.
It's strange eating twice and having a banana first thing when I wake up.
Good luck with the book!
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That is probably true.
I know I've been asked over the years by doctors if I eat breakfast and I always say yes.
Thanks. Just loose ends I am tying up and then fingers crossed on what the lady will say once she has had a double check on the whole thing.
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Yeah. I can't trust that glucose meter at all. Did it twice this morning and had 479 first time and 499 the second time.
I'm going to call Dr. Endo today and just tell him that I'm upping the insulin every three days until I see him and somebody can give me a proper test. I'm done pricking my fingers.
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I didn't ask what her title was, but I'm meeting with the "Nutritionist" in the Diabetes Center on Thursday for a one-on-one appointment, so hopefully I can finally have somebody to talk to about all of this that knows what the hell she's talking about and isn't in a big goddamned hurry to run out of the room and see somebody else.
She told me to bring my meter and my insulin with me so she can verify that the meter is working right and that I'm using both of them properly.
She also told me to call Dr. Endo and try to talk to him and let him know how high my levels are despite sticking to the medications and that they may need to be tweaked before my follow up in 8 days.
She told me I shouldn't be exercising until I'm back down under 200, but I can't abide that one. It's the only thing making me feel good at all right now, and the one day I didn't work out I was really depressed... at least more so than usual.
Had a really crap night last night. Late to sleep and early to rise because I needed to get all of this stuff done before going to the dentist for a cleaning, so the morning routine is out of wack. Took my uppped insulin already, but still need to eat and take all the pills. Haven't even done my business, so a morning weight isn't going to be accurate at this point since I've already had water and coffee.
ETA: LOL... Wow. I did the ritual, I haven't eaten yet, but I just weighed myself and I'm 152.2.
That's a new milestone, but there's a big asterisk with that one since it's a few hours after I've been up, I've been drinking coffee and water and I've already taken my shot. My usual morning weigh-in happens only after 1 cup of coffee and before any meds.
But we have managed to hit a new 1lb barrier, regardless. I probably haven't seen 152lbs since sometime in February before I was paying attention, somewhere in between the time people said I was looking skinny and weighed 156 and when I weighed myself a few weeks of over-eating later and found out I'd lost another 10lbs.
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Quote:Wow, those readings don't make sense at all!! If you were THAT high I think you'd be a lot more symptomatic. I wish I was there, I could loan you another couple of meters and take comparative measurements.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. I can't trust that glucose meter at all. Did it twice this morning and had 479 first time and 499 the second time.
I'm going to call Dr. Endo today and just tell him that I'm upping the insulin every three days until I see him and somebody can give me a proper test. I'm done pricking my fingers.
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We've had good experiences with a lot of different meters and strips but I suppose there's are bad ones out there.
I'm glad your seeing someone soon
I'd cancel a dental cleaning if I were you SIX. It always introduced some bacteria unto the blood, and being diabetic makes you prone to all kinds of infection. Or at least tell your hygienist that you have so far) uncontrolled diabetes
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Out for my walk in a bit on a dry day. It did rain earlier this morning though.
Oh, and I agree with SIG. Tell your dentist so that it is on file that you are now diabetic. Also anytime you go to any kind of doctor as well. It will effect how they treat you and what meds they recommend.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. I can't trust that glucose meter at all. Did it twice this morning and had 479 first time and 499 the second time.
I'm going to call Dr. Endo today and just tell him that I'm upping the insulin every three days until I see him and somebody can give me a proper test. I'm done pricking my fingers.
Wow, those readings don't make sense at all!! If you were THAT high I think you'd be a lot more symptomatic. I wish I was there, I could loan you another couple of meters and take comparative measurements.
RIGHT!!!!!!
I feel fine. I worked out again no problem this morning and stuff that I was only doing 10 reps of in the beginning I'm doing 22 to 25 reps of now. Full 15 minute workouts without any down time in between and I feel great after they're done.
I just weighed myself after eating a banana and a handful of peanuts and I'm 152.2 lbs. That's the highest I've ever been since I got down to 143.4.
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We've had good experiences with a lot of different meters and strips but I suppose there's are bad ones out there.
I'm glad your seeing someone soon
Me too. I'm very excited about seeing somebody who will be dedicating an entire hour to educating me on this and seeing if my meter is even working right at all.

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I'd cancel a dental cleaning if I were you SIX. It always introduced some bacteria unto the blood, and being diabetic makes you prone to all kinds of infection. Or at least tell your hygienist that you have so far) uncontrolled diabetes
I already did it, and I told her about the diabetes. She didn't seem to think we should reschedule. I need my teeth cleanings if I want to keep the remaining teeth.

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Back from my walk a while ago. It is dry and the sun is out now. All done including some more book work. Now, I just have to tidy up and sort through what I have done and email it to the lady who is helping me. After the dentist tomorrow.
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Good luck with the dentist, BRENDA.
And it sounds like you're in the home stretch on your book. Congrats! I hope I get a chance to read it.
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