Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Originally posted by second:
If a Ukraine that believes inthe rule of law and human rightsgrift and corruption can achieve victory against a much larger, much moreautocraticdemocratic society, and if it can do so while preserving its ownfreedomsoligarchy then similarlyopen societies and movementstransnationalist regimes around the world can hope for success too.
Fixed it for you.
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SECOND: This year the US will spend another $1 trillion on defense. Who is the US defending itself from? From the past records, we know what country was used as the justification for these huge defense budgets. It is Russia. The US has already spent more than $10 trillion in a nuclear arms race with Russia, but since 1945 the US never had the guts tobeat the shit out of the Russianscommit suicide on a mass scale,so that there would not be an arms race.but decided to beat the shit out of dozens of weaker hapless nations instead. But at long last, there is a country (Ukraine) that isbeating the shit out of Russians,stupid enough to be used as a hapless proxy against Russia and is getting beaten to a pulp, but 6ix wants the beating to stop.
What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?
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Quote:Unlike you predicting Russia will win, I have not predicted that Ukraine will win. But I will make a prediction: if Russia wins, Putin will treat the Ukrainians as magnanimously as Stalin treated the Germans. Two million Germans were killed after Germany surrendered. Russia denies that happened. The Germans said it happened.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?
Postwar forced resettlement of Germans echoes through the decades
https://theconversation.com/postwar-forced-resettlement-of-germans-ech
oes-through-the-decades-137219
Likewise, the Russians said they didn't kill 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor. The Ukrainians said the Russians did kill the Ukrainians by the millions. This time won't be any different than last time. My prediction is that Ukrainians will die by the millions if the Russians win, but Russians will deny it is happening. That's what Russians do to conquered nations.
HOLODOMOR BASIC FACTS
https://holodomor.ca/resource/holodomor-basic-facts/
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Ukraine is already the loser here with 2 generations of men dying for NATO.
In the end, they will have died for nothing when they surrender to Russia.
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Quote:You are getting pretty close to Signym's position that Russia shall win. Why not wait until Russia is more assured to win? Otherwise, you'll end up disappointed just as you were when Trump lost despite your wholehearted devotion to the notion he's a winner.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine is already the loser here with 2 generations of men dying for NATO.
In the end, they will have died for nothing when they surrender to Russia.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are getting pretty close to Signym's position that Russia shall win. Why not wait until Russia is more assured to win? Otherwise, you'll end up disappointed just as you were when Trump lost despite your wholehearted devotion to the notion he's a winner.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine is already the loser here with 2 generations of men dying for NATO.
In the end, they will have died for nothing when they surrender to Russia.
Why would I be disappointed?
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Quote:You weren't disappointed when Trump lost? You won't be disappointed if Putin loses in Ukraine and by inference, Biden wins?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why would I be disappointed?
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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed that the Russian defense industrial base is increasing its production of precision missiles for use against Ukraine.[1]
Shoigu likely seeks to deflect intensifying accusations that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) cannot provide sufficient ammunition to Russian forces.
Russian milbloggers began naming specific Russian MoD officials in their accusations of poor supply provisions to Russian forces.[5] Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin continues to claim that the Russian MoD is deliberately setting Wagner mercenaries up for failure in Bakhmut by refusing to provide their requested number of shells, which his commanders claim is leading to high casualties and slow progress on the battlefield.[6] A Wagner serviceman also claimed that he delivered 39 boxes with complaints from Wagner servicemen about lack of ammunition to the Russian State Duma’s Defense Committee on May 2.[7]
The Kremlin reportedly distributed a new manual instructing Russian state media on how to cover an upcoming potential Ukrainian counteroffensive that, if real, indicates the Kremlin is setting informational conditions to mitigate shocks in the Russian information space from Ukrainian successes. Meduza reported that sources close to the Russian presidential administration stated that Russian losses will be understandable because “the entire West has concentrated huge efforts on the front.”[16] The alleged document suggests the Kremlin is preparing for Ukrainian successes and is planning to mitigate demoralization in the Russian information space.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-2-2023
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Kremlin accuses Ukraine of trying to assassinate Putin
In a statement, the Kremlin said: "Last night, the Kyiv regime attempted to carry out a strike on the Kremlin residence of the President of the Russian Federation with unmanned aerial vehicles."
It said it regarded this "as a planned terrorist act and an assassination attempt on the president", and Russia "reserves the right to take retaliatory measures wherever and whenever is deemed necessary".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65471904
Ukrainian comment: Wouldn't that be a terrible injustice if Putin was killed after he has done absolutely nothing wrong to Ukraine? We would deeply mourn this great man's abrupt passing into history.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?
Too funny...comrade signym has been threatening Ukraine would fold like a cheap suit for over a year now.
I told you comrade that Russia was a paper tiger. The first time, many many years ago.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You weren't disappointed when Trump lost? You won't be disappointed if Putin loses in Ukraine and by inference, Biden wins?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why would I be disappointed?
The entire country lost and continues to lose when Biden* won*.
No American stands to gain or lose anything if Russia or Ukraine wins, other than the fact that we won't be wasting any more taxpayer dollars on NATO's war. That money ends no matter what the result is.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?
THUGR: Too funny...comrade signym has been threatening Ukraine would fold like a cheap suit for over a year now. I told you comrade that Russia was a paper tiger. The first time, many many years ago.
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
c) Your video shows up as "private video". It won't play. Not that I'd watch it, tho.
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Quote:a) War of attrition? You don't know how many Russians Russia has killed by invading Ukraine. That is what real attrition is.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
Unlike the US in all wars of the 20th and 21st centuries, Russia does NOT keep a list of every soldier who dies because Russia does NOT give a damn how many millions of its citizens die for the Tsar or Stalin or Putin. Back in 1990, Russia had killed 62 million of its own citizens as proof Russia does NOT care who dies.
From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
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1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987
2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922
3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928
4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935
5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938
6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941
7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945
8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953
9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987
b) Signym wrote: "There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why." For the same reason that the USA has not fought Canada since 1812. What will the USA gain by war with Canada (or Russia) that the USA can't get cheaper another way? Since the USA keeps track of every dead soldier, unlike Russia not even counting to the nearest million of its dead citizens, the calculus for the USA going to war is very different than the calculations Russians made before slaughtering their own citizens in Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Canada
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Originally posted by second:Quote:a) War of attrition? You don't know how many Russians Russia has killed by invading Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
Neither do you.
But the BBC- not a Russia friendly pulication- estimated about 20,000 from open sources.
You can shitcan everything that comes from from Kiev, just like I shitcan your posts.
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Quote:Russians killed 62 million of their own people because they do not value them. The Ukrainians know this because millions of the dead once lived in Ukraine. Russians don't know and don't care how many millions die. Not knowing and not caring does not make Russians stronger.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:a) War of attrition? You don't know how many Russians Russia has killed by invading Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
Neither do you.
But the BBC- not a Russia friendly pulication- estimated about 20,000 from open sources.
You can shitcan everything that comes from from Kiev, just like I shitcan your posts.
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• Russia accused Ukraine of conducting a drone strike against the Kremlin.
• Russia likely staged this attack in an attempt to bring the war home to a Russian domestic audience and set conditions for a wider societal mobilization.
• The rapid and coherent presentation of an official Russian narrative around the strike suggests that Russia staged this attack in close proximity to the May 9th Victory Day holiday in order to frame the war as existential to its domestic audience.
• Some Russian nationalist milbloggers seized on the Kremlin drone strike to call for Russian escalation in the war despite the fact that Russia currently lacks the military capability to do so.
• The Kremlin may be planning to conduct other false flag operations and to increase disinformation ahead of a Ukrainian counteroffensive in order to increase domestic support for the war.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-3-2023
The drone operator was afraid to damage the Kremlin for fear of being fired from his Russian government job.
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The Kremlin is attempting to increase the production quotas of military supplies despite reportedly lacking the necessary manpower. Russian opposition outlet Verstka reported that Russian factories are failing to increase the volume of weapons production to satisfy state orders due to labor shortages.[61] Verstka reported that Russian factories are failing to properly compensate workers and are deducting funds for support of the Russian war effort from their salaries.
US Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines stated that Russian forces are likely unable to conduct a “significant offensive” in 2023 due to munitions and manpower shortages.[25] Haines testified on May 4 to the Senate Armed Services Committee that it will be increasingly challenging for Russia to sustain “even modest offensive operations” if the Kremlin does not initiate mandatory mobilization or obtain third-party ammunition supplies in addition to existing deliveries from Iran and other unspecified countries.
Russian occupation authorities continue to announce plans to conduct further medical examinations of Ukrainian children in occupied territories, likely to facilitate the deportation of Ukrainian children to Russia under the guise of rehabilitation. Kherson Oblast occupation head Vladimir Saldo stated on May 3 that 36 doctors from four unspecified Russian regions will arrive in occupied Kherson Oblast to begin medical examinations on May 10.[66] ISW reported on May 3 that occupied Kherson Oblast Ministry of Health had announced that doctors from Crimea and Russia intend to conduct medical examinations on 4,336 children in occupied Kherson Oblast.[67]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-4-2023
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Russia killed Darya Dugina?
Russia killed war blogger Vladlan Tatarsky?
Russia derailed its own trains?
Russia blew up its own pipeline?
Russia attacked the Kremlin?
OMFG, SECOND, you spew crap nonstop, don't you?
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Quote:NAZIS account for a fair portion of that, SECOND. Bc NAZIS were waging a genocidal war on Russian territory.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Russians killed 62 million of their own people because they do not value them.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:a) War of attrition? You don't know how many Russians Russia has killed by invading Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
Neither do you.
But the BBC- not a Russia friendly pulication- estimated about 20,000 from open sources.
You can shitcan everything that comes from from Kiev, just like I shitcan your posts.
Another fatally-flawed post from SECOND, and another SECOND post to shitcan.
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Quote:The Soviet people were under attack from two directions: the Nazi military machine and the Soviet Communist Party. The imprisonment and killing of enemies of the people by the party not only continued during the war, but was intensified. A large number of the Soviet World War II dead were killed by Stalin, not Hitler — probably 10,000,000 more. Had Ripley written a “Believe It or Not” of incredible tales of murder and death, the two-front war suffered by Soviet citizens and foreigners subject to Soviet occupation surely would provide prominent entries.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:NAZIS account for a fair portion of that, SECOND. Bc NAZIS were waging a genocidal war on Russian territory.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Russians killed 62 million of their own people because they do not value them.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:a) War of attrition? You don't know how many Russians Russia has killed by invading Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
Neither do you.
But the BBC- not a Russia friendly pulication- estimated about 20,000 from open sources.
You can shitcan everything that comes from from Kiev, just like I shitcan your posts.
Another fatally-flawed post from SECOND, and another SECOND post to shitcan.
As the Red Army retreated before Nazi invasion forces, the NKVD often tried to deport prisoners east before the Nazis arrived. In some cases prisoners were beaten and shot in death marches along the roads or, if evacuation were impossible or too difficult, prisoners were shot en masse in the prisons,15 whether pickpockets, crooks, black marketeers, or political prisoners. For example, they were shot as prisons were evacuated in Tallin, Smolensk, Kiev, Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, and Orel; in Tartu at least 192 prisoners were killed.16 Upon the approach of German forces, all in Minsk’s prison were killed. It held about 10,000 inmates, although constructed for 1,000.17 All prisoners doing forced labor at a mining complex near Nalchik were machine gunned to death. At the Olginskaya camp, more than 2,000 of those sentenced for over four years were shot.18 And in the Ukraine:
In the majority of prisons NKVD troops shot all inmates who had been sentenced to more than three years. In some towns the NKVD burned prisons with all their inmates. According to Ukrainian sources, 10,000 prisoners were shot in Lvov, Zolochevo, Rovno, Dubno, Lutsk, and other cities.19
In all, perhaps 80,000 Ukrainians were massacred during the Red Army retreat.20
Now, one’s mind can soon become dulled by all the figures being given here; one can read about 80,000 Ukrainians murdered but not absorb this magnitude. But consider: more Ukrainians were apparently murdered in this retreat than all the Englishmen killed (70,000) by all the Nazi bombs dropped on England during the war;21 it is more than all the American Marine and Navy battle-dead in all theaters of action in World War II (56,683);22 it is virtually equal to all the American battle dead in the Korean and Vietnam wars together (80,950).23
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Your figures are bullshit, SECOND, and I know that bc they contradict OTHER figures that you've posted.
Go fuck yourself, troll.
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Quote:One would think that in the early, dark days of the war when it looked like Moscow would fall, when every able-bodied person was needed for the defense and war effort, millions of prisoners would have been released from the camps. Some in fact were released, many to be put in expendable penal battalions. Such battalions, untrained and often unarmed, sometimes without camouflaged uniforms so as to draw fire, were hurled in waves against Nazi positions, while NKVD troops would be behind them with machine guns ready to fire on those who hesitated or retreated. These former prisoners were also forced to clear mine fields by walking through them. When the head of the Soviet Military Mission in Britain, General Ratov, was offered British mine detectors, he declined, explaining that “in the Soviet Union we use people.”29
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Your figures are bullshit, SECOND, and I know that bc they contradict OTHER figures that you've posted.
Go fuck yourself, troll.
The population of the camps may have decreased in the early days of the war, from an estimated 10,000,000 prisoners in 1941 to 9,000,000 in 1942 (see appendix 7.1). But that would be only because the inflow to the camps, which continued in a broad stream, was insufficient to cover those prisoners who were killed—probably 2,000,000 in 1941 and 3,400,000 in 1942. In 1943, when the war effort was not as bleak, but the outcome still could have gone either way, the camp population actually appears to have increased to a likely 11,200,000.30 And during the whole war, the number of these unfortunates who were usually guilty of nothing, who were dying a slow, miserable, death in the camps, may have reached 15,000,000.31 Even this figure may be too conservative. Says Kravchenko about 1942 alone:
In official circles twenty millions became the accepted estimate of this labor reservoir (of prisoners). The estimate did not include the boys and girls from 14 to 16 forcibly torn away from their parents and assigned to regions and industries in which manpower shortages were sharpest.32
As before the war, these camp prisoners were used as slave labor. They were auctioned and sold, their bodies contracted for as though so much machinery. Kravchenko also gives us a feel for this:
I recall vividly an interview which I arranged . . . with one of the top administrators of GULAG. He was to supply a certain commissariat some hundreds of prisoners for a rush assignment. We were under terrific pressure . . . and I had summoned the GULAG official for a showdown on this manpower.
“But Comrade Kravchenko, be reasonable,” he interrupted my speech. “After all, your Sovnarkom is not the only one howling for workers. The State Defense Committee needs them. Comrade Mikoyan makes life miserable for us, Malenkov and Vosnessensky need workers, Voroshilov is calling for road builders. Naturally everyone thinks his own job is the most important. What are we to do? The fact is we haven't as yet fulfilled our plans for imprisonments. Demand is greater than supply.”33
During the war, the camp regime was especially severe, increasing markedly the camp death rate. For example, out of 50,000 prisoners at the railroad camp of Pechorlag in the fall of 1941, there were 10,000 left alive the following spring; out of 50 people in the central sector barracks of Burepolom Camp in February 1943, at least four died a night, and one night twelve died (in the morning the dead would be replaced).34 Moreover, special categories of enemies were massacred periodically throughout the camps, such as the shooting in every camp of all former and actual Trotskyites in 1942.35 Moreover, camp administrators and guards were constantly on watch for ways to justify their exemption from duty at the front—“plots” and “conspiracies” among prisoners were regularly “discovered,” usually resulting in batches of prisoners being shot.
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When you contradict yourself every other post, why should I take this one any more seriously than your previous 3,000+ bullshit posts?
You habit of lying has more than caught up with you. You'd have to post the real honest truth (something you're completely unfamiliar with) for the next five YEARS in order to rehabilitate your reputation, troll.
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Quote:Signym, the contradiction is between the story Russians tell themselves in 2023 and the truth about Russians in WWII:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When you contradict yourself every other post, why should I take this one any more seriously than your previous 3,000+ bullshit posts?
You habit of lying has more than caught up with you. You'd have to post the real honest truth (something you're completely unfamiliar with) for the next five YEARS in order to rehabilitate your reputation, troll.
How many died under these wartime conditions in the camps? Tolstoy says that one “former prisoner, who with his comrades conducted a rough-and-ready estimate, reckoned that seven million gulag inmates were slaughtered in the first year of the war.”39 Although Tolstoy believes that this need not be an exaggeration, a more prudent estimate of the total murdered in transit to or in the camps during the whole war period is 8,518,000 Soviet citizens (see appendix 7.1).
What irony, indeed. The democracies fought alongside the Soviet Union to eradicate the horror of fascism from the world. And afterwards, the democracies shook their collective head over the documented mass, inhuman murder of Jews and heaved a sigh of relief and thankfulness that this abominable Nazi system was utterly defeated. Yet, the democracies’ major ally and a victor sitting in judgment with them at the Nuremberg trials was, during that very war, murdering more innocent people just in their labor camps than the Nazis were machine gunning in the gullies and gassing in their concentration camps.
Then there were the Soviet deportations. Whole cultural, ethnic, and linguistically homogeneous nations of suspect loyalty were deported. Naturally, all German-Soviets were not trusted, no matter if they had lived in the Soviet Union for generations or had been heroes in the Red Army. In August 1941, the loyalty of the Volga Germans was tested by parachuting men in Nazi uniforms from planes with Nazi markings among villages. They asked to be hidden until the Nazi Army came. If the villagers complied, the village was immediately liquidated.40 But even when villagers reported the parachutists, their reprieve was short anyway. They were all eventually deported, whether their sons were at the front fighting or they were loyal party members. In total about 412,000 Volga Germans,41 with perhaps another 400,000 or more ethnic Germans from other parts of the European Soviet Union,42 were whisked away.
Their deportation was less harsh than that of many other nations, such as the Crimean Tatars. The Germans often had several days’ warning, and sometimes they were seen off at the stations by friends of other nationalities. Still, the Volga Germans were packed forty to sixty to a cattle car for many days and sometimes weeks; among those who had to cross the Central Asian deserts, many died from lack of water. Most deportees were transported to Siberia and Northern Kazakstan.43
Also, those nations that had presumably “cooperated” or “collaborated” (by party definition) with the occupying Nazi forces, or that might do so, had to go. Even minorities living in sensitive areas were deported, although, as Khrushchev later admitted, at the time there was no military necessity to do so, since the Nazis were already being forced to retreat.44 Thus, the party deported to the inhospitable far reaches of the country not only all German-Soviets, but also Greek-Soviets, Chechens, Ingushi, Karachai, Balkars, Kalmyks, Crimean Tatars, and Meskhetians—nine entire nations. No one was excepted, not even deputies to the Supreme Soviet.45 As to how some of these deportations were carried out, we have the following account regarding the Chechens:
NKVD units, dressed as ordinary troops, entered the republic in early February 1944, as if for manoeuvers. The population was assembled in the villages on the evening of 22 February 1944, to celebrate Red Army Day. They were surrounded by troops and the deportation decree was read to them by security
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The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) appears to have deprioritized the Bakhmut offensive in favor of preparing to defend against an anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive, putting the Wagner Group and Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin in a potentially difficult position. Prigozhin released a series of videos on May 4 and 5 announcing that Wagner will withdraw from Bakhmut on May 10 unless Wagner receives necessary supplies and launched particularly acerbic and emotional attacks against Chief of the Russian General Staff Army General Valery Gerasimov, Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu, and the Russian MoD establishment writ large.[1] Prigozhin’s palpable desperation in the videos, one of which shows the corpses of recently deceased Wagner fighters, marks a significant rhetorical inflection in his continued pleas for increased Russian MoD support for Wagner in Bakhmut. His visible and visceral anger suggests that the Russian MoD has likely deprioritized Bakhmut and shifted operational focus elsewhere in the theater in ways that may seriously compromise Wagner’s ability to operate effectively. Wagner has not ceased efforts to completely capture Bakhmut despite reduced access to ammunition and other necessary supplies, however. Prigozhin has shown no willingness to switch to the defensive within the city.
Wagner’s continued persistence within Bakhmut is incongruent with the overall slow-down in the pace of Russian offensive operations elsewhere in Ukraine as conventional Russian forces appear to be largely shifting focus to prepare to receive the much-anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive.[2] Aside from very limited and localized attacks in the Kreminna area and near Donetsk City, Russian forces have largely ceased offensive operations throughout the theater, likely signifying a transition to the defensive.[3] It would be an operationally sound decision for the Russian MoD to begin withholding and stockpiling ammunition and supplies in order to prepare for any Ukrainian counteroffensive actions, and Prigozhin’s desperate statements indicate that the Russian MoD is likely doing so. ISW has recently reported that Prigozhin began appealing to the Russian MoD to provide Wagner with necessary ammunition once again after a brief period during which it seemed that relations between Prigozhin and Russian military leadership had improved.[4] Prigozhin’s renewed anger reached its peak in the May 4 video of Prigozhin essentially screaming at Gerasimov and Shoigu and accusing them of the deaths of Wagner fighters.[5]
The losses suffered by Wagner in Bakhmut, alongside the likely de-prioritization of the Bakhmut effort by the Russian MoD, may leave Prigozhin and Wagner in a particularly bad spot. It is not immediately clear whether Prigozhin actually intends to withdraw from Bakhmut on May 10 or whether he made the announcement in a last-ditch attempt to secure MoD support. If Wagner does withdraw, then it will likely need Russian MoD equipment to protect and facilitate the retrograde. The Russian military lacks the reserves needed to man positions Wagner might abandon in Bakhmut, moreover. The massive losses suffered by Wagner in Bakhmut for the sake of tactical gains, as well as the overall shift of the Russian military towards a more cautious posture preparing for defensive operations, appears to be offering Ukrainian forces opportunities for fruitful counterattacks in various areas of the front. Ukrainian forces appear to be seizing some of these opportunities, as noted below, but ISW does not assess that these counterattacks are necessarily part of the anticipated counteroffensive.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-5-2023
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What? You won't change your citizenship to Russian? Then lose your house and be deported to Russia for slave labor. If you refuse to work, Russia refuses to feed you:
Ukrainians in Starobilsk are evicted from their homes and sent to filtration centres for not accepting Russian passports
The General Staff notes that the Russians usually come to people’s homes no more than twice. The third time they come, the people and their belongings are forcibly thrown into the street.
After being evicted, such citizens are taken to filtration centres and their homes are given to servicemen of the Russian occupation army for accommodation.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/6/7400934/
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The major developments in human history are always steeped in dark ironies. Taking WWII as the archetypal example, let's enumerate just the more obvious ones:
» After the carnage of WWI, many of the world's most sensitive and thoughtful people learned the lesson that they should oppose war at any cost. This attitude let Germany rearm and set the stage for WWII.
» Hitler, who was neither tall nor blond, wished to establish the worldwide domination of tall, blond Aryans ... and do so via an alliance with the Japanese, also neither tall nor blond.
» The Nazis touted the dream of eugenically perfecting the human race, then perpetrated genocide against a tiny group that had produced Einstein, von Neumann, Wigner, Ulam, and Tarski.
» The Jews were murdered using a chemical — Zyklon B — developed in part by the Jewish chemist Fritz Haber.
» The Allied force that made the greatest sacrifice in lives to defeat Hitler was Stalin's USSR, another of history's most murderous and horrifying regimes.
» The man who rallied the free world to defeat Nazism, Winston Churchill, was himself a racist colonialist, whose views would be (and regularly are) denounced as "Nazi" on modern college campuses.
» The WWII legacy that would go on to threaten humanity's existence — the Bomb — was created in what the scientists believed was a desperate race to save humanity. Then Hitler was defeated before the Bomb was ready, and it turned out the Nazis were never even close to building their own Bomb, and the Bomb was used instead against Japan.
More at https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7278
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• Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov may have compelled the Russian theater commander in Ukraine, Army General Valery Gerasimov, to resume artillery ammunition distribution to Wagner forces in Bakhmut despite Gerasimov’s desired de-prioritization of that effort.
• Kadyrov’s threats to transfer his forces to Bakhmut may have blackmailed the Russian military command into allocating ammunition to Wagner mercenaries.
• Kadyrov likely supported Wagner’s blackmail efforts against the Russian military command to reestablish his position within the circle of power of the Kremlin.
• Gerasimov's apparent need to negotiate with subordinate commanders and those commanders’ ability to force his hand suggests that chain of command problems are significantly impacting the Russian military's ability to conduct coherent theater-wide operations.
• These events raise questions about Russia’s ability to coordinate a coherent theaterwide defensive campaign.
• Prigozhin’s and Kadyrov’s ability to significantly influence Russian military command decisions relies on Putin’s willingness to appease them and his reliance on their forces - both of which will likely degrade after further blackmail efforts.
• Prigozhin’s continued fight to complete the capture of Bakhmut contradicts his consistent narrative that capturing Bakhmut lacks strategic value.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-7-2023
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Quote:Wrong. War reparations on Germany crumbled the German economy, leading to hyperinflation and a mass-revolt against international sanctions, and towards an alternative path. Communism and Hilterlism (National Socialism) were runnng neck-and-neck until Hilter uncorked his dirty tricks.
Originally posted by second:
The major developments in human history are always steeped in dark ironies. Taking WWII as the archetypal example, let's enumerate just the more obvious ones:
» After the carnage of WWI, many of the world's most sensitive and thoughtful people learned the lesson that they should oppose war at any cost. This attitude let Germany rearm and set the stage for WWII.
Also, America's oil embargo against Japan, which critically starved the Japanese economy, led to Japan's atttack on Pearl Harbor.
Quote:Also...bankers.
The Nazis touted the dream of eugenically perfecting the human race, then perpetrated genocide against a tiny group that had produced Einstein, von Neumann, Wigner, Ulam, and Tarski.
Quote:NEr... I think we can count Britain and its endlss imperial rape of most of the world up there with murderous regimes.
The Allied force that made the greatest sacrifice in lives to defeat Hitler was Stalin's USSR, another of history's most murderous and horrifying regimes.
Quote:He was. He was also a military failure in his preious wartime experience. He wasn't fighting "racism" tho, he was fighting for Britain's survival.
The man who rallied the free world to defeat Nazism, Winston Churchill, was himself a racist colonialist, whose views would be (and regularly are) denounced as "Nazi" on modern college campuses.
Quote:Of all of the arguments for the using the bomb against Japan ... it caused the Japanese to surrender, shortened the war etc. turned out not to be the case, since Japan was already close to surrendering and the USA knew it. The reason was probably to stop the USSR from storming thru the east in an end-of-war opportunistic push. Even then, The USSR wrested Mongolia and other far east ares from Japan's hands
The WWII legacy that would go on to threaten humanity's existence — the Bomb — was created in what the scientists believed was a desperate race to save humanity. Then Hitler was defeated before the Bomb was ready, and it turned out the Nazis were never even close to building their own Bomb, and the Bomb was used instead against Japan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_War
They're only ironies if you look at history with an extrenely narrow scope and refuse to look at actual causes.
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Quote:Hyper-inflation was NOT caused by reparations. The only way to force Germany to pay reparations would be for France to invade Germany, maintain the occupation, and take control of German taxation for many years, redirecting tax money to France. France would not have done that. And there is no alternative way to force a country to pay. Russia knows this very well, which is why it freely destroys Ukrainian property. Russia knows it will never pay unless Russia is invaded, then continuously occupied by the invaders, who then tax Russia for many years to pay for the damages to Ukraine. That is no more likely to happen than France invading Germany in 1922 to force Germany to pay.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Wrong. War reparations on Germany crumbled the German economy, leading to hyperinflation and a mass-revolt against international sanctions, and towards an alternative path. Communism and Hilterlism (National Socialism) were runnng neck-and-neck until Hilter uncorked his dirty tricks.
Originally posted by second:
The major developments in human history are always steeped in dark ironies. Taking WWII as the archetypal example, let's enumerate just the more obvious ones:
» After the carnage of WWI, many of the world's most sensitive and thoughtful people learned the lesson that they should oppose war at any cost. This attitude let Germany rearm and set the stage for WWII.
Sensibly, Germany could have refused to pay the reparation debt, but the government behaved ridiculously: The Weimar government was still in a position to get a grip on the economy; instead, it chose to print yet more money in order to pay the reparation debt. By July 1922 prices had risen by some 700 percent, and hyperinflation had arrived. The government had to print million-mark notes, then billion-mark notes. It was a stupid thing for the German government to do. I can see why someone with only a little more common sense (Hitler) was able to come to power when the so-called better Germans were acting financially like morons and fools.
Quote:The attack on Pearl Harbor did NOT end the oil embargo. It just made things more difficult for Japan, not better. But the dimwits running Japan couldn't understand that, could they? The Japanese believed back then the way Russians believe today, that war leads to prosperity.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Also, America's oil embargo against Japan, which critically starved the Japanese economy, led to Japan's atttack on Pearl Harbor.
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I guess we're all just waiting fpr the autumn... winter ... ... spring summer??? Kiev offensive.
Ukraine's SBU is resorting to assasinations, assasiantion attempts, and pinprick attacks in Russia proper.
Bakhmut and Marinka are 90+pct undr Russian control. There have been several "reconnaissance in force" attacks in the Zaparozhye area, and Russia is evacuating the towns around there. I haven't read a complete list of evacuated towns nor looked at map to locate them, but I wonder if they're all around the Zaparozhye Nuclear Power Plant, which is the one big prize and/or target in the region. I can't imagine Kiev ultimately winning a conventional push, but I CAN imagine Kiev ordering a terror attack on the power plant and despoiling a large part of Ukraine with nuclear fallout.
Except for that, or maybe flooding the Dnieper, I can't imagine Kiev managing to uncork any big surprises. No "wunderwaffe" in the arsenal.
what I'm hearing is that there is a policy struggle in the western world: one USA faction wants to call it quits in Ukraine and focus on Taiwan and China while the EU portion wants/needs cotinued relations with China for economic reasons, and one USA and EU faction wants to go full steam ahead and is pushing a reluctant Kiev to launch the offensive NOW, stop stalling with excuses about the weather and lack of munitions and weapons and get ON with it.
What I don't understand is, if it's as hopeless for Kiev as it looks right now, why the urgent urgency? why push for a defeat now instead of a defeat later? Are "they" (the DNCneocons and neolibs) hoping to get Ukraine's defeat out of the way and memory-holed well before 2024? There must be a reason for the push, I just can't imagine what that is.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What will you do, SECOND, when Ukraine folds like a cheap suit? Will you admit that you posted hundreds of lies and thousands of lines of nonsense?
THUGR: Too funny...comrade signym has been threatening Ukraine would fold like a cheap suit for over a year now. I told you comrade that Russia was a paper tiger. The first time, many many years ago.
a) Russia is fighting a war of attrition, not "big arrow offensives". Silly man. Russia is not only de-militarizing Kiev, it's demilitarizing NATO.
b) There's a reason why the USA is avoiding direct conflict between USA troops and Russian troops in Ukraine. Go figure out why.
No treaty or agreement requires the United States to come to Ukraine’s aid. Although the United States had strongly supported Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, the United States has no obligation to go to its defense.
If this crisis was happening with the Baltic states? Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania the situation would be different. These countries are NATO members, and the United States has a treaty obligation to them.
Also, the president of Ukraine has said many times he did not want the American army to get directly involved. That he only wanted weapons.
Signym says with bitterness, the Russian army’s plan is to slowly reduce the Ukrainian army’s military strength. You can see me quoting her here. She describes it as attrition. “The action or process of gradually reducing the strength or effectiveness of someone or something through sustained attack or pressure.”
So, I ask her, where the fuck is the logic in that? If this truly is Russia’s plan, then their approach is to watch their own military get destroyed in the process. I’d add, Ukraine’s military is stronger today than it’s ever been. No way can Russia claim the same. That fact alone is evidence Russia is getting its ass kicked.
And Signym, tick tock
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THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
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Quote:The Russians killed 62 million Russians. The Germans didn't do it. It was Russians killing Russians but you have not acknowledged that despite it being old news, so why would you acknowledge that any Russians have been killed by Ukrainians?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
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Russians murdered more innocent people just in their labor camps than the Nazis were machine gunning in the gullies and gassing in their concentration camps.
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SECOND: By now you must realize I shitcan every one of your posts. Your hx of mouthbreathing crap caught up with you a long time ago.
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Quote:Russia did the same to Russians, killing 62 million of them, but those innocent dead won't be mentioned on Victory Day, tomorrow.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: By now you must realize I shitcan every one of your posts. Your hx of mouthbreathing crap caught up with you a long time ago.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
Multiple sources identified the nose cone as likely coming from a Kinzhal missile, which officially goes by the unwieldy designation 9-S-7760, and is codenamed the ‘Killjoy’ by NATO.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-a-patriot-miss
ile-has-killed-one-of-russia-s-hypersonic-missiles/ar-AA1aTAXj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a7b9022cd5e743e18c2a16ca8ded5a0c&ei=21
Oops, sorry comrade Signym.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".Quote:
For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
Multiple sources identified the nose cone as likely coming from a Kinzhal missile, which officially goes by the unwieldy designation 9-S-7760, and is codenamed the ‘Killjoy’ by NATO.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-a-patriot-miss
ile-has-killed-one-of-russia-s-hypersonic-missiles/ar-AA1aTAXj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a7b9022cd5e743e18c2a16ca8ded5a0c&ei=21
THUGR:: Oops, sorry comrade Signym.
Denied by Kiev itself.
Quote:
Ukrainian Air Force denies reports Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile downed over Kyiv
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-air-force-denies-reports-132000149.ht
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YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
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Quote:Signym, do you remember that the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, the Moskva, was sunk early in the conflict? Russians said it didn't happen, but Russians were lying because it is effortless for Russians to lie, like breathing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
8 May, 2023 U.S. confirms Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to have been destroyed by Patriot system
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/u-s-confirms-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-mi
ssile-to-have-been-destroyed-by-patriot-system/
There is only one Moskva, so Ukraine can't sink it a second time to prove the Russians were lying, but there are more Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles for Ukraine to shoot down to prove the Russians are lying.
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Quote:Why would Kiev deny shooting down a hypersonic missile?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, do you remember that the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, the Moskva, was sunk early in the conflict? Russians said it didn't happen, but Russians were lying because it is effortless for Russians to lie, like breathing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
8 May, 2023 U.S. confirms Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to have been destroyed by Patriot system
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/u-s-confirms-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-mi
ssile-to-have-been-destroyed-by-patriot-system/
There is only one Moskva, so Ukraine can't sink it a second time to prove the Russians were lying, but there are more Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles for Ukraine to shoot down to prove the Russians are lying.
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This is how it works, SECOND: Russia doesn't report all its losses, but when they DO report them, they seem to be accurate. (For example, the Russian MoD's KIA report tallies with the BBC's independent estimate.) When the Russian MoD claims territory, or #of Kiev weapons destroyed, it winds up looking accurate.
But Kiev lies about EVERYTHING: territory gained or lost, Ukrainian losses, Russian losses, weapons available... I shitcan everything "Kiev says", just like I shitcan everything you post.
Because for them, and for you, there are no "facts", only words as weapons. You, and they, will say anything... anything ... to advance your "war" (whatever it is).
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".Quote:
For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
Multiple sources identified the nose cone as likely coming from a Kinzhal missile, which officially goes by the unwieldy designation 9-S-7760, and is codenamed the ‘Killjoy’ by NATO.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/for-the-first-time-a-patriot-miss
ile-has-killed-one-of-russia-s-hypersonic-missiles/ar-AA1aTAXj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a7b9022cd5e743e18c2a16ca8ded5a0c&ei=21
THUGR:: Oops, sorry comrade Signym.
Denied by Kiev itself.Quote:
Ukrainian Air Force denies reports Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile downed over Kyiv
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-air-force-denies-reports-132000149.ht
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YEP, SO SORRY COMRADE! So sorry that your sources are so tainted and your gullibility is so huge!
U.S. confirms Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to have been destroyed by Patriot system
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/u-s-confirms-kinzhal-hypersonic-ballistic-mi
ssile-to-have-been-destroyed-by-patriot-system/
Thanks TWO...Oops comrade signym, oops.
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Quote:Signym points to a story from Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:20 AM CDT by Yahoo!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Why would Kiev deny shooting down a hypersonic missile?
This is how it works, SECOND: Russia doesn't report all its losses, but when they DO report them, they seem to be accurate. (For example, the Russian MoD's KIA report tallies with the BBC's independent estimate.) When the Russian MoD claims territory, or #of Kiev weapons destroyed, it winds up looking accurate.
But Kiev lies about EVERYTHING: territory gained or lost, Ukrainian losses, Russian losses, weapons available... I shitcan everything "Kiev says", just like I shitcan everything you post.
Because for them, and for you, there are no "facts", only words as weapons. You, and they, will say anything... anything ... to advance your "war" (whatever it is).
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-air-force-denies-reports-132000149.ht
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Alternative story from today: Ukraine said Saturday that it shot down one of Russia’s hypersonic missiles using an American-made defense system.
Ukrainian military commander Mykola Oleshchuk said his forces downed the Russian missile over Kiev the night of May 4. He said they used the American Patriot missile defense system. He said a Russian aircraft had launched the hypersonic missile from Russian airspace into Ukraine.
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/ukraine-claims-it-shot-down-hi-t
ech-russian-missile-with-us-system/7083766.html
What happened? Who knows? But if Ukraine doesn't shoot down a second Russian hypersonic missile, then the first shootdown was either a lucky fluke or it didn't happen or Russia realized that firing billions of dollars in missiles is a waste of money unless there is a nuke in the nose cone. Cost of one Iskander missile is US$3 million. It means that the Russians have already spent US$2.328 billion on missiles of this type, as they were launched on the territory of Ukraine. A Kalibr missile costs US$6.5 million; that is, the total cost of the launched projectiles has already reached US$1.482 billion. A Kh-101 missile costs US$13 million, and a Kh-555 missile, according to open source data, costs US$7.5 million. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/14/7372027/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
Putin Forced to Send 70-year-old Tanks From Russian Museums Into Ukraine Due to Ongoing Weapons Shortage
Vladimir Putin was recently forced to send 70-year-old tanks previously kept on display inside Russian museums into Ukraine to make up for his military’s ongoing weapons shortage, RadarOnline.com has learned.
In a surprising development to come after Russia is estimated to have lost more than 3,700 tanks in the past 14 months of fighting against Ukraine, the 70-year-old Russian leader reportedly ordered several Soviet-era T-55 tanks to be recommissioned and sent to the frontlines of battle.
According to Daily Star, the T-55 tanks being taken from Russian museums and sent into Ukraine were first constructed in 1948 shortly after the end of World War II.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forced-to-send-70-year-old-
tanks-from-russian-museums-into-ukraine-due-to-ongoing-weapons-shortage/ar-AA1aUOx8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=165295698a1a4237a77eb37c37c60fbd&ei=154
The truth is out there for all to see comrade. Your lying doesn't change that.
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For the First Time, a Patriot Missile Has Killed One of Russia’s Hypersonic Missiles
That may burst the hype bubble around the mighty Kinzhal.
Initially, though, the ID was contested. There was the possibility the downed weapon was instead a land-based Iskander tactical ballistic missile (also a hypersonic weapon, though less often hyped as such) upon which the Kinzhal is based.
Ukraine Weapon Tracker, a respected account known to ID weapons usage, noted:
“The debris matches the unitary warhead assembly used in Kh-47M2 & Iskander-series missiles. Further imagery is required to fully confirm the type of the missile - but both Iskander and Kinzhal are ballistic missiles which are regarded as extremely difficult to intercept; except by modern Western Air Defense systems that are entering service in Ukraine…We are confident in our ID.”
Ukrainian Air Force spokesperson Yuriy Ihnat cast doubt that a Kinzhal was downed, with statement claiming: “There was a possibility of [Kinzhal’s] use, but no ballistic missiles were recorded.”
But then on Saturday, Ukrainian Air Force commander Mykola Oleshchuk finally confirmed on a Telegram post the "historic event": one of the UAF's new Patriot missiles had indeed downed the "unparalleled" Kinzhal. He noted the Kinzhal had been launched from over Russian airspace by a MiG-31K fighter, and admonished the media for reporting the incident in advance of his confirmation.
Some sources allege Ukraine’s military initially cast doubt on the kill because it didn't want Russia to know it could down Kinzhal missiles or that a Patriot battery was active in Kyiv, and was frustrated when the news leaked.
More at https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a43806773/patriot-mi
ssile-kills-russia-hypersonic-kinzhal-missile/
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Graphic novel 'Accidental Czar' explores Putin's motivations
Clip: 11/25/2022 | 7m 42s
https://www.pbs.org/video/accidental-czar-1669413748/
As the U.S. and other nations try to end the Russian war in Ukraine, there has been a renewed focus on Russian President Putin. Who is he, where did he come from and what does he want? Andrew Weiss tries to answer those questions in his new graphic novel with art by Brian Box Brown called, "Accidental Czar: The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin." Weiss joined Nick Schifrin to share his perspective.
Andrew S. Weiss — Accidental Czar: The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin - with Marie Yovanovitch, Former United States Ambassador to Ukraine
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, why do you say that I describe Russias war of attrition "with bitterness"? Your mind-reading sucks. (As usual) What I feel most often is IRRITATION bc I have to keep repeating myself so often, especially to retards who keep jibing that Russia isn't advancing like they think it should. A war of attrition results in a static front when the enemy (in this case, Kiev) obliges you by constantly throwing itself against your defenses; or results in tacticsl retreat.
But why in god's name do you think that it's the RUSSIAN army getting ground down? Were Russia's air defenses destroyed? Have Russia's air force been obliterated? Is Russia's tank force, artillery, munitions and weapons factories, rail system, and fuel depots been destroyed? Most importantly, has Russia lost a while army's -worth of men?
You need to get your news from someplace that doesn't just embellish what "Kiev says".
Putin Forced to Send 70-year-old Tanks From Russian Museums Into Ukraine Due to Ongoing Weapons Shortage
Vladimir Putin was recently forced to send 70-year-old tanks previously kept on display inside Russian museums into Ukraine to make up for his military’s ongoing weapons shortage, RadarOnline.com has learned.
In a surprising development to come after Russia is estimated to have lost more than 3,700 tanks in the past 14 months of fighting against Ukraine, the 70-year-old Russian leader reportedly ordered several Soviet-era T-55 tanks to be recommissioned and sent to the frontlines of battle.
According to Daily Star, the T-55 tanks being taken from Russian museums and sent into Ukraine were first constructed in 1948 shortly after the end of World War II.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forced-to-send-70-year-old-
tanks-from-russian-museums-into-ukraine-due-to-ongoing-weapons-shortage/ar-AA1aUOx8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=165295698a1a4237a77eb37c37c60fbd&ei=154
The truth is out there for all to see comrade. Your lying doesn't change that.
T
Putin's Ally Slams Russia Over Broken Promises On Ammunition For 'Starving' Mercenaries In Ukraine
Vladimir Putin’s ally and the chief of the Wagner Group slammed Moscow after he said his mercenaries had not yet received the ammunition Russia had promised.
What Happened: Hours after saying they had started receiving the ammunition based on initial data, Yevgeny Prigozhin took a sharp U-turn slamming Putin's administration for not sending the promised ammunition, reported Reuters.
Wagner Group, whose private mercenaries have spent months trying to capture Ukraine's Bakhmut, earlier this month threatened to pull out after being starved of ammunition and suffering “useless and unjustified” losses as a result.
Prigozhin said he did not want to “spoil” Russia’s big Victory Day parade and would reveal more details afterward. “The people who were supposed to fulfill the (shipment) orders have so far, over the past day, not fulfilled them,” Prigozhin said in a video post on Telegram.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-ally-slams-russia-over-br
oken-promises-on-ammunition-for-starving-mercenaries-in-ukraine/ar-AA1aVLcJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9e64a6e31398476ea5990053973cbe14&ei=38
So, comrade signym, you were saying?
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Can't have big parade if most of your army is dead. Hey, don't take my word for it, just look at Putins' face.
Comrade signym, can_you_see_me_laughing?
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LOL...
Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.
You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.
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Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin says Russian troops are running away from the front lines and threatens to spill more details if Putin doesn't send ammunition
The boss of the Wagner Group said Russian troops fled from the front lines of the war in Ukraine.
Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin made the claims in a scathing video posted on Tuesday.
"They all fled and opened up a front almost two kilometers wide and 500 meters deep," he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wagner-boss-yevgeny-prigozhin-say
s-russian-troops-are-running-away-from-the-front-lines-and-threatens-to-spill-more-details-if-putin-doesn-t-send-ammunition/ar-AA1aWX72?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fcc5428c771e443793511acda3707df8&ei=59
Comrades, I told you so.
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Why Moscow's military parade was branded 'underwhelming'
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Quote:The Russians murdered 62 million Russians. Even when it was happening, the Russians pretended that it wasn't happening. The Germans didn't do it. It was Russians killing Russians and none of those murders got mentioned in Putin's speech today, Victory Day!, in Moscow. Putin won't be mentioning anything other than he is crazy and wants to kill as many Europeans and Ukrainians as he can.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...
Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.
You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.
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Russians murdered more innocent people just in their labor camps than the Nazis were machine gunning in the gullies and gassing in their concentration camps.
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The lesson is that 62 million Russians can be killed by Russians and the Russians will pretend they have amnesia about all those murders. What? What murders? We know nothing about murders! It was the Germans! It is all the Nazis' fault! We Russians are not to blame for what we did in WWII or Ukraine! It is all Nazis, 24-7!
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...
Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.
You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.
Why do you pretend to give a fuck?
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Quote:Yeah, seeing as he hates Russians with a blind passion, he should be celebrating.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...
Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.
You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.
Why do you pretend to give a fuck?
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I think what we're seeing is reality seeping into SECOND's fevered brain. He senses that Ukraine is on the losing side of this war... by extension so is NATO ... and he just can't cope.
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Quote:The point for retarded 6ix is that the Russians are awful people who have repeatedly threatened to drop nukes on the US, which has caused the US to waste more than $10 trillion on nukes in order to convince the awful Russians to NOT proceed with their evil plans.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...
Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.
You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.
Why do you pretend to give a fuck?
Between 1940 and 1996, the U.S. spent at least $10.1 trillion in present-day terms on nuclear weapons development.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_of_the_United_States
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The Russian Public’s Imperial Hangover
Even as their government prepares them for the shock of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, most Russians continue to endorse Putin’s imperial dream. Why do the overwhelming majority of older Russians not only accept but support their country’s war on Ukraine? The common answer is that they have no choice: the authorities, with backing from the FSB, have systematically identified and punished those who engage in public acts of disloyalty. Under such circumstances, who would dare protest?
Russians are hostage to Putin’s Kremlin. Period.
Those seeking a silver lining are quick to point to the existence of underground opposition groups who have torched factories and public buildings. But which of those many conflagrations were the work of Russians themselves, as opposed to Ukrainian saboteurs? We won’t know this unless and until the Ukrainian army emerges victorious. For now, however, even the existence of a small but active Russian fifth column does not refute the fact that the Russian populace remains passive, even as tens of thousands of their brothers and husbands return from Ukraine in caskets.
But are they merely passive? Even after a year of war, credible Russian opinion researchers and bloggers affirm the presence of millions of what Russians call “hurrah patriots.” These zealots go far beyond the dictates of mere survival to mouth the Kremlin’s slogans. Granted, such zealots tend to be older, but many younger Russians sing in the same key. This brings us back to why so many Russians not only accept but support their country’s war on Ukraine?
Those who study Russia give short shrift to the psychological impact of imperialism on the Russian masses. Topics like centralized planning, the mega-industries that dominate the economy, ideology, and corruption have rightly garnered attention. But largely neglected is the state of mind fostered by imperial rule and its hold over the populace. This may be one the most enduring legacies of Lenin, Stalin, and their successors.
Forty years ago a brilliant writer from Soviet Kyrgyzstan, Chingiz Aitmatov (1928-2008), laid out the impact of authoritarianism on individual psyches in a bone-chilling novel, A Day Lasts More than A Hundred Years. The work blends such unlikely ingredients as the mythic past, Soviet rule, and intergalactic space. Yet its plot is simple. In ancient times an invading warrior tribe takes captive a Central Asian resistance fighter. As they do with all of their captives, the conquering tribesmen subject him to a harrowing process, binding his head in a cap made from the skin of a freshly slaughtered goat. The hat gradually shrinks, causing unbearable pain, which few survived. When the cap is finally removed, the victim has lost all consciousness of himself as a human being, his family, his entire people, and their past. His captors called such transformed beings “Mankurts,” zombies, who have been stripped of their individual and collective memories. The Mankurt is now entirely at his captors’ mercy, a slave without past or future, who meekly does whatever they demand of him.
Surprisingly, the official journal Novyi Mir published this disturbing story in 1980, as Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev’s reign sank into terminal stagnation. A decade later, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, Aitmatov teamed up with director Hojaguly Nariyew from Turkmenistan to turn the Mankurt story into an acclaimed film. Aitmatov got away with this because his international renown rendered him untouchable. It helped that he had been an officer of the Writers’ Union of the USSR and a member of the Supreme Soviet.
Soon all those who had suffered under Russian rule — Ukrainians, Balts, Tatars, Chechens, and the peoples of Central Asia and the Caucasus — were asking themselves whether they, too, had not been Mankurtized. The collapse of the Communist Party and the USSR itself opened the door to remedial actions. Leaders of the newly independent states understood that the best antidote to Mankurtism was to revive their nat
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Russian President Vladimir Putin declined to use his Victory Day address to make any significant rhetorical changes and reiterated existing narratives, preparing for a protracted war and framing Russia as successfully resisting the entire West. Putin stated in his annual address marking the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 that “a real war has been unleashed against Russia” and that Russia has repelled international terrorism and will continue to “defend” residents in Donbas.[1] Putin has previously claimed the West is waging a global “war” against Russia.”[2] Putin has previously referred to the Russian military campaign in Ukraine as a ”war” but this rhetoric, whether an intentional acknowledgement of the scale of the fighting or not, has not corresponded with any changes in the Kremlin’s approach to the “special military operation.”[3] Putin similarly declined to use recent notable events such as his annual New Year’s Eve address or his February 2023 address to the Federal Assembly to offer any concrete vision on how to reverse the Russian military’s setbacks in Ukraine or reframe the war.[4] Putin has instead used these events to reinforce long-standing rhetorical lines aimed at preparing the Russian public for a protracted war in Ukraine by evoking the memory of World War Two without calling on Russian society to support full mobilization.[5]
Putin additionally attempted to use Victory Day celebrations to rally Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) partners, many of which have sought to reduce their reliance on the Kremlin since February 2022. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, Kyrgyz President Sadyr Japarov, Tajik President Emomali Rahmon, Turkmen President Serdar Berdimuhamedov, and Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev joined Putin at the Moscow Victory Day parade in Red Square.[6] Putin emphasized the importance of CIS leaders attending the event and repeated boilerplate Kremlin rhetoric that Russia is pursuing a multi-polar world order.[7] Putin’s latest efforts to rally CIS countries was muted by the reluctance of several Central Asian leaders initially expressed towards attending the Victory Day event, and Lukashenko did not join the rest of the leaders at an earlier wreath laying ceremony.[8] Lukashenko also did not deliver his traditional Victory Day address in Minsk, Belarus, although it is not immediately clear why.[9] Other non-Western states have largely rebuffed the Kremlin’s attempts to coalesce a potential anti-Western coalition, most notably China through its increasing rhetorical distancing from Russia.[10] ISW has previously assessed that the degradation of Russian military power in Ukraine has likely made this Russian effort even less attractive to other states.[11]The Victory Day events showcased far less military equipment than usual (including only a single World War Two–era T-34/85 and no modern tanks, which Russia badly needs in Ukraine) and demonstrated the further degradation of the Russian military, despite the Kremlin’s attempts in previous weeks to downplay Victory Day by downsizing parades and outright canceling events.[12]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-9-2023
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The point for retarded 6ix is that the Russians are awful people who have repeatedly threatened to drop nukes on the US, which has caused the US to waste more than $10 trillion on nukes in order to convince the awful Russians to NOT proceed with their evil plans.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The Russians murdered 62 million Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LOL...
Yeah. I'm sure most of Russia's army is dead.
You're an idiot and an asshole, Ted.
Why do you pretend to give a fuck?
Between 1940 and 1996, the U.S. spent at least $10.1 trillion in present-day terms on nuclear weapons development.
Simply having nukes is threatening the rest of the world with the use of nukes.
There's only one country that ever actually did it. And it wasn't Russia.
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Quote:Which is true. All you have to do is read THUGR's and SECOND's rabid dreams of toppling Putin or breaking up Russia, or their denigration of the Russian people and culture, to know they've been recruited in the elites' never-ending quest to destroy Russia
Originally posted by second:
Russian President Vladimir Putin declined to use his Victory Day address to make any significant rhetorical changes and reiterated existing narratives, preparing for a protracted war and framing Russia as successfully resisting the entire West.
Quote:In Chechnya, Syria, Ukraine, and Russia proper
Putin stated in his annual address marking the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 that “a real war has been unleashed against Russia” and that Russia has repelled [USA-sponsored and CIA-enabled] international terrorism
He also equated modern-day western elites with Nazis, which (listening to "Jungle" Josep Borrell and Ursula van der Crazy) I find an entirely apt comparison.
Quote:Who have been subject to continuous shelling of civilian areas since 2014
and will continue to “defend” residents in Donbas.
Quote:by expanding NATO to Russia's borders (breaking earlier promises) and placing missiles within a few minutes' flight time of Moscow, fomenting "color revolutions" and invasions along Russia's entire border including Finland, Sweden, Georgia, Chechnya, (The former) Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc (pretty much the way the west has treated most of the world)
Putin has previously claimed the West is waging a global “war” against Russia.”
Quote:Which is a war of attrition. If Russia were to unleash full-scale war against Ukraine, Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov, and Odessa would be no more.
Putin has previously referred to the Russian military campaign in Ukraine as /a ”war” but this rhetoric, whether an intentional acknowledgement of the scale of the fighting or not, has not corresponded with any changes in the Kremlin’s approach to the “special military operation.”
Quote:Setbacks? I don't include capturing 20pct of Ukraine's territory as a "setback", or demilitarizing both Ukraine and western arsenals as a failure (for them. For us, yes)
Putin similarly declined to use recent notable events such as his annual New Year’s Eve address or his February 2023 address to the Federal Assembly to offer any concrete vision on how to reverse the Russian military’s setbacks in Ukraine or reframe the war.
Quote:Bc they don't fight "blitzkreig" wars.
Putin has instead used these events to reinforce long-standing rhetorical lines aimed at preparing the Russian public for a protracted war in Ukraine by evoking the memory of World War Two without calling on Russian society to support full mobilization.
Quote:undr severe ecnomic pressure form the EU
Putin additionally attempted to use Victory Day celebrations to rally Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) partners, many of which have sought to reduce their reliance on the Kremlin since February 2022. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan,
Quote:who is embarking on full military and economic integration with Russia
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko,
Quote:Who remains closely allied with Russia
Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev,
Quote:All Russia's partners
Kyrgyz President Sadyr Japarov, Tajik President Emomali Rahmon, Turkmen President Serdar Berdimuhamedov, and Uzbek President Shavkat Mirziyoyev joined Putin at the Moscow Victory Day parade in Red Square.
Quote:which happens to be true. Russia is not attempting to dominate the globe, like the USA is, but there are plenty of nations attempting to wriggle out from under the USA's oppressive fat ass
Putin emphasized the importance of CIS leaders attending the event and repeated boilerplate Kremlin rhetoric that Russia is pursuing a multi-polar world order.
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Putin’s latest
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Quote:Compare life in Russia vs Poland. Putin has done poorly compared to the series of different leaders in Poland since 1999, but Putin tries to compensate for his past inadequacies by invading Ukraine in the present. Putin's Ukrainian plans won't work any better than his more peaceful plans that didn't involve an invasion of a European country. Russia's future, where Polish citizens pull even further ahead of Russians will prove how inadequate Putin was as a leader.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As far as I can tell Putin spoke plain truth, which will be embraced by all nations not currently under Washington's thumb and all leaders not in Washington's pocket.
https://www.google.com/search?q=compare+gdp+russia+poland
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Compare life in Russia vs Poland. Putin has done poorly compared to the series of different leaders in Poland since 1999, but Putin tries to compensate for his past inadequacies by invading Ukraine in the present. Putin's Ukrainian plans won't work any better than his more peaceful plans that didn't involve an invasion of a European country. Russia's future, where Polish citizens pull even further ahead of Russians will prove how inadequate Putin was as a leader.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
As far as I can tell Putin spoke plain truth, which will be embraced by all nations not currently under Washington's thumb and all leaders not in Washington's pocket.
https://www.google.com/search?q=compare+gdp+russia+poland
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That is not at all reality.
You need to stop living in the mind of Kevin Drum.
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Quote:Are you convinced that Russia is doing well compared to Poland? I picked that country because Russia invaded Poland on Sept 17, 1939, and would still own it in 2023, but Russia collapsed in 1991. How about a comparison between Russia and Canada? Russia never invaded Canada and the results are that Canada has a larger economy than Russia and Canadians are several times richer than Russians because there are far few Canadians sharing that economy than in Russia.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://www.google.com/search?q=compare+gdp+russia+poland
That is not at all reality.
You need to stop living in the mind of Kevin Drum.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Compare+gdp+Canada+Russia
For some reason which no one will ever know, Canada never threatened to nuke the US, despite Canada having the longest border on Earth without a military to protect it from the evil US. Meanwhile, Russia has threatened, once again, to nuke the evil US. I wonder what Russia's problem is with the evil US that Canada does not have?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Are you convinced that Russia is doing well compared to Poland?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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That is not at all reality.
You need to stop living in the mind of Kevin Drum.
No. I'm talking about this part, pussy.
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but Putin tries to compensate for his past inadequacies by invading Ukraine in the present.
You're a little cocksucking bitch who has no idea how the world works.
Quit talking.
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Quote:I'm guessing that you believe Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia had to invade to prevent a repeat of Hitler's invasion of Russia on June 22, 1941, which began after Russia invaded Poland on September 17, 1939. Russia had 21 months to stomp all over Poland before Germany stomped all over Russia. To the Polish, it seemed that the Germans were paying back the Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
dead hot air oozing out of 6ix's brain
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Yanno, you stupid troll, one big difference between Canada and Russia is that the USA hasn't been trying to destroy Canada for 70 100 years. If we had been, Canada wouldn't exist anymore.
I don't know how you manage to hang on to such obviously stupid ideas. Ideas so transparently stupid even THUGR can see thru them. Must be bc your mind is fucked. 
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, you stupid troll, one big difference between Canada and Russia is that the USA hasn't been trying to destroy Canada for70100 years. If we had been, Canada wouldn't exist anymore.
I don't know how you manage to hang on to such obviously stupid ideas. Ideas so transparently stupid even THUGR can see thru them. Must be bc your mind is fucked.
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Russia was defeated decisively in Bkamhut today with the 72nd Brigade nearly being wiped out, and pushed back an entire kilometer. Wagner forces still have no ammo and are going to withdraw from the line soon.
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So comrade signym, riddle me this.
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Where have all the young men gone?
"Where have all the flowers gone?" asks the famous 1960s antiwar song. In Moscow today, The New York Times reports, the question is: Where have all the men gone?
The answer to both questions is, in part, the same: To the graveyards of soldiers. But a lot of the missing men of Moscow have also fled Russian President Vladimir Putin's draft for his war in Ukraine. In fact, demographers say Russia may not recover for generations, if ever.
"Putin spent years racing against Russia's demographic clock, only to order an invasion of Ukraine that's consigning his country's population to a historic decline," Bloomberg News reports. Here's a look at what demographer Alexei Raksha calls Russia's "perfect storm" of demographic decline:
Where have all the young men gone?
Putin says his October 2022 mobilization drafted about 300,000 men to send to Ukraine. Another 300,000 Russians are believed to have fled to other countries to avoid the draft. The U.S. calculated in May 2023 that about 20,000 Russian fighters had died in Ukraine since December and another 80,000 were injured. That's on top of tens of thousands Russian soldiers killed or wounded in the first 10 months of the war. "I feel like we are a country of women now," Moscow resident Stanislava, 33, told the Times. "I was searching for male friends to help me move some furniture, and I realized almost all of them had left."
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Which is true. All you have to do is read THUGR's and SECOND's rabid dreams of toppling Putin or breaking up Russia, or their denigration of the Russian people and culture, to know they've been recruited in the elites' never-ending quest to destroy Russia
Originally posted by second:
Russian President Vladimir Putin declined to use his Victory Day address to make any significant rhetorical changes and reiterated existing narratives, preparing for a protracted war and framing Russia as successfully resisting the entire West.Quote:In Chechnya, Syria, Ukraine, and Russia proper
Putin stated in his annual address marking the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 that “a real war has been unleashed against Russia” and that Russia has repelled [USA-sponsored and CIA-enabled] international terrorism
He also equated modern-day western elites with Nazis, which (listening to "Jungle" Josep Borrell and Ursula van der Crazy) I find an entirely apt comparison.Quote:Who have been subject to continuous shelling of civilian areas since 2014
and will continue to “defend” residents in Donbas.Quote:by expanding NATO to Russia's borders (breaking earlier promises) and placing missiles within a few minutes' flight time of Moscow, fomenting "color revolutions" and invasions along Russia's entire border including Finland, Sweden, Georgia, Chechnya, (The former) Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Kazakhstan etc (pretty much the way the west has treated most of the world)
Putin has previously claimed the West is waging a global “war” against Russia.”Quote:Which is a war of attrition. If Russia were to unleash full-scale war against Ukraine, Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov, and Odessa would be no more.
Putin has previously referred to the Russian military campaign in Ukraine as /a ”war” but this rhetoric, whether an intentional acknowledgement of the scale of the fighting or not, has not corresponded with any changes in the Kremlin’s approach to the “special military operation.”Quote:
Putin similarly declined to use recent notable events such as his annual New Year’s Eve address or his February 2023 address to the Federal Assembly to offer any concrete vision on how to reverse the Russian
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, you stupid troll, one big difference between Canada and Russia is that the USA hasn't been trying to destroy Canada for70100 years. If we had been, Canada wouldn't exist anymore.
I don't know how you manage to hang on to such obviously stupid ideas. Ideas so transparently stupid even THUGR can see thru them. Must be bc your mind is fucked.
THUGR: "...Bkamhut ..."
So you don't buy the Russia-Canada comparison either.
The rest of your post is baloney.
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Quote:Still reposting NYT lies?
Originally posted by THG:
So comrade signym, riddle me this.
Where have all the young men gone?
"Where have all the flowers gone?" asks the famous 1960s antiwar song. In Moscow today, The New York Times reports, the question is: Where have all the men gone?
The answer to both questions is, in part, the same: To the graveyards of soldiers...
Where have all your neurons gone? THAT'S the question!
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Quote:When Russians were starving, Herbert Hoover, before he was President, was running food to Russia to save them from what they had done to themselves. When the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, in which Stalin agreed to split Europe with Hitler, collapsed, the US came to Russia's aid with billions of dollars in raw materials, food, fuel, vehicles, planes. The US bombed the hell out of German munitions factories, cutting in half what Germany could throw at the Russian Army. What was Russia bombing? Nothing, because they could not get bombers up in the air. When WWII was over, the US didn't put Russians on trial for murdering more civilians than Germany murdered in its extermination camps.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, you stupid troll, one big difference between Canada and Russia is that the USA hasn't been trying to destroy Canada for70100 years. If we had been, Canada wouldn't exist anymore.
I don't know how you manage to hang on to such obviously stupid ideas. Ideas so transparently stupid even THUGR can see thru them. Must be bc your mind is fucked.
But then the Russians got full of themselves and decided to keep every piece of land they had crossed while moving toward Berlin and Tokyo. Funny how the Russians only let loose these conquered lands when Russia collapsed in 1991 out of gross incompetence at running an economy.
I'm pretty sure Canada would have been in trouble with the US if it had been as greedy, violent, and stupid as Russia. But instead of following the Russian path of threatening the US with nukes, Canada created a prosperous economy that never collapsed in 1991, very unlike the Russian one, run by Communists with bizarre ideas of how to run a factory or grow food or just about anything a dialectical materialist can screw up out of purist ignorance.
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Four years of an alliance if convenience... in which the USSR put far more people and materiel into the war than the USA and Britain ever did... changes 100 years of anti-Russian aggression.
Right.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I'm guessing that you believe Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia had to invade to prevent a repeat of Hitler's invasion of Russia on June 22, 1941, which began after Russia invaded Poland on September 17, 1939. Russia had 21 months to stomp all over Poland before Germany stomped all over Russia. To the Polish, it seemed that the Germans were paying back the Russians.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
dead hot air oozing out of 6ix's brain
Nope. Not at all.
This is all about NATO gaining an even greater foothold. It always was.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Quote:Russian aggression included killing 13,053,000 Russians during WWII, which certainly gave the US and UK reasons to be concerned that, perhaps, Russians would insanely try to kill US and UK citizens once WWII was over. Russians certainly tried in Korea and Vietnam. Plus there were those 30,000 nukes the Russians made to wipe the US and UK off the map of the world.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Four years of an alliance if convenience... in which the USSR put far more people and materiel into the war than the USA and Britain ever did... changes 100 years of anti-Russian aggression.
The Germans never forgot that Russia killed 2 million German civilians after peace was declared. That murder rampage against civilians was completely forgotten by Russians. According to Russia, it never happened, but Russia said the same after killing 13,053,000 Russians.
From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
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1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987
2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922
3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928
4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935
5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938
6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941
7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945
8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953
9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987
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Quote:6ix, it is good to know that you never stop being a crazy asshole. Is your consistency in being a dumb-ass getting you ever closer to super-success in life?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. Not at all.
This is all about NATO gaining an even greater foothold. It always was.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Pervasive issues with Russian combat capability, exacerbated by continued attritional assaults in the Bakhmut area, are likely considerably constraining the ability of Russian forces in this area to defend against localized Ukrainian counterattacks. The 72nd Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade itself is emblematic of many of the endemic force generation issues constantly faced by the Russian military. ISW reported on August 7, 2022, that the 72nd Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade was forming in Orenburg Oblast as part of the 3rd Army Corps, a new formation created in 2022 and largely comprised of volunteer battalions.[7] Forbes reported in September of 2022 that the 3rd Army Corps deployed to Kharkiv Oblast and that the Ukrainian Kharkiv Oblast counteroffensive largely destroyed the corps’ constituent elements, likely including the 72nd Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade.[8] Ukrainian media suggested that the surviving elements of the 72nd Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade may have redeployed to Mykolaiv Oblast following the Kharkiv Oblast counteroffensive, where they once against suffered losses during Ukraine’s southern counteroffensive in October 2022.[9] ISW cannot confirm where the 72nd Brigade deployed to following the withdrawal of Russian forces from the west (right) bank of the Dnipro River, but it is highly likely that whatever elements of the 72nd Brigade that deployed to the Bakhmut area more recently are not operating at anywhere near full strength. The Russian military command’s apparent commitment of elements of a formation that has suffered two successive defeats to the Bakhmut axis alongside already attrited Wagner elements likely offer Ukrainian forces opportunities to exploit with limited counterattacks. A Russian milblogger, citing a Wagner commander active in the Bakhmut area, additionally reported that the alleged withdrawal of the 72nd Brigade was the result of severe miscommunication between command of the 72nd Brigade and the Wagner Group.[10] Issues with the ad hoc commitment of various depleted force groupings to the Bakhmut axis, alongside apparent command and control failures, are likely preventing Russian forces in the area from conducting sound defensive operations.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-10-2023
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Hey dumb shit SECOND:
The USA elites were against Russia LONG BEFORE WWII. Ever since 1917 in fact. They were against Communism, which (of course) threatened their existence.
Also, your figures on Russians killed are bogus and, BTW, irrelevant to the moment.
Russia wants a NATO- and missile-free border (yanno, like Austria) which seems eminently sensible to me: it would solve everyone's security problems.
But the "collective west" elites can't seem to agree to a neutral buffer zone, instead are intent on using every nation stupid enough to get involved as its proxy for the "destroy Russia" project. I don't care what crap rationalizations you use to paint over our naked aggression, it's still bogus.
But if you want to talk about brutal nations, let's look at Britain which killed tens of millions in establishing it's empire. Or the USA which also killed tens (if not hundreds) of millions, establishing ITS empire.
Why do you keep mouth-breathing crap?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. Not at all.
This is all about NATO gaining an even greater foothold. It always was.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
You're saying Russia invading Ukraine is all part of NATO's masterplan? And Putin is an idiot for falling into it?
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Originally posted by K2PO:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. Not at all.
This is all about NATO gaining an even greater foothold. It always was.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
You're saying Russia invading Ukraine is all part of NATO's masterplan? And Putin is an idiot for falling into it?
Hey KRAPO! Nice to see you still being a lying sack of shit!
Never change, dood!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by K2PO:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. Not at all.
This is all about NATO gaining an even greater foothold. It always was.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
You're saying Russia invading Ukraine is all part of NATO's masterplan? And Putin is an idiot for falling into it?
Hey KRAPO! Nice to see you still being a lying sack of shit!
Never change, dood!
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He's not smart enough to lie. He's simply a bullhorn for the intelligent liars filling his empty brain cavity with nonsense.
Stick to checkers dude. You couldn't handle a game of chess.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia wants a NATO- and missile-free border (yanno, like Austria) which seems eminently sensible to me: it would solve everyone's security problems.
No...
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia wants a NATO- and missile-free border (yanno, like Austria) which seems eminently sensible to me: it would solve everyone's security problems.
No...
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Yes. Period.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey KRAPO! Nice to see you still being a lying sack of shit!
Never change, dood!
Are you pissed because your "Bakhmut conquered by January" prediction has turned out so bad?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia wants a NATO- and missile-free border (yanno, like Austria) which seems eminently sensible to me: it would solve everyone's security problems.
Lol, the UK just gave Ukraine new cruise missiles capable of hitting the Kerch bridge
Add all the Lend Lease provided by the West since the invasion - if "strategic mastermind" Putin's whole aim was to make Ukraine toothless militarily he has a funny way of achieving the complete opposite
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Ukraine can get fucked.
Why do you support child rapist and Obama plant Zelensky?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine can get fucked.
Your tax dollars say different
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Why do you support child rapist and Obama plant Zelensky?
Z was elected in 2019, 2.5 years after Obama left office... Do you mean "Trump plant"? *shrug* This makes as much sense as anything you say.
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Quote:Signym, your personal version of history does not match European history. Russians 'Haven't Changed' Since World War II: Estonian Prime Minister
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey dumb shit SECOND:
Russian forces fighting in Ukraine are exhibiting the same "brutality" as the Soviet troops that occupied much of eastern and central Europe during the Second World War, Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas said.
While Ukraine's Western partners analyze Russian capabilities on display through more than one year of full-scale war, Kallas said European Union and NATO nations must also end what she called the "historical cycle" of Russian aggression against its neighbors.
"I'm very surprised that they haven't changed since the Second World War," Kallas told Newsweek in an exclusive interview at Stenbock House, the official seat of the Estonian government—in Tallinn.
"The way they operate, the brutality, the atrocities; it hasn't changed at all. And the question that I have in my mind is, how is that possible, really, in 2022 or 2023? But it is still so."
Estonia, which shares a 183-mile border with Russia, has long been among those nations sounding the alarm over the threat from Moscow. Tallinn and its Baltic neighbors emerged from hundreds of years of Russian — and later Nazi German and Soviet — rule, punctuated by brief periods of independence. For them, Ukraine's struggle echoes their own.
Moscow's clear defeat and subsequent war crimes trials for its leaders, Kallas said, are imperative for all those along Russian borders.
"We are carefully gathering lessons: how they act, how they fight, and how they operate, generally, to be prepared," she explained. "There's a much broader question that is outside the military scope, and this is the question of how to really cut this historical cycle that Russia always continuously attacks its neighboring countries. And the key to this is accountability.
"There hasn't been any accountability for the crimes that Russians have committed in their neighboring countries. Whereas for the Germans, there were the Nuremberg Trials. And the Nazi crimes are widely condemned across the world.
"One of the outcomes of the Nuremberg Trials, for example, was that the German people got to know about the crimes that the Germans committed, and hence they have this public guilt about this. The Russians don't have that."
Ukraine is now working with foreign partners to set up a special tribunal to try Russian President Vladimir Putin and his top officials — likely all in absentia — for their aggression against Ukraine. How such a tribunal will be formed, operated or be given international legitimacy remains to be seen.
"The special international tribunal to prosecute the crimes of aggression is of utmost importance," Kallas said. "Crimes of aggression are leadership crimes. Somebody decides to attack another country. And if there isn't any leadership crime — the crime of aggression — there are no war crimes, either.
"Russia has seen that nothing happens when they attack another country. All the aggressors, or would-be aggressors, in the world are carefully taking notes. If the outcome of aggression as a policy tool is that you walk away with more territories than you had before, that aggression pays off. And it's a call for everybody to use that."
'They Can't Win'
Western hopes of a mass uprising or palace coup to unseat Putin have not come to fruition. Infighting among Moscow's elites may undermine Putin's leadership, but there is little indication that he is losing his grip on power.
"We see those signs, but we would want to see those signs much stronger. They definitely have some infighting going on," Kallas said, noting the recent public protests of Wagner Group boss Yevgeny Prigozhin against rivals in the regular Russian military hierarchy.
Polls — ever q
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Originally posted by K2PO:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine can get fucked.
Your tax dollars say different
Not MY tax dollars. I haven't paid federal tax since before child rapist Zelensky was inaugurated.
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Why do you support child rapist and Obama plant Zelensky?
Z was elected in 2019, 2.5 years after Obama left office... Do you mean "Trump plant"? *shrug* This makes as much sense as anything you say.
The Obamas and the Bidens and all the higher ups in Ukraine have had each others dicks up their collective asses since 2014. You didn't think that Trump being President was going to stop that from happening, did you?
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Hey dumb shit SECOND... did you get an award at school for "stupid"? Or was it for "lying"?
Asking an Estonian elite about Russia is like asking ... well... you.
I don't read your walls of gibberish and I sure didn't read his.
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Quote:Signym, why don't you start screaming that only you know the Holy Truth about Russians and every contradiction is Fake News from the Faithless?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey dumb shit SECOND... did you get an award at school for "stupid"? Or was it for "lying"?
Asking an Estonian elite about Russia is like asking ... well... you.
I don't read your walls of gibberish and I sure didn't read his.
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Vladimir Putin Is the World’s Most Dangerous Fool
by Thomas L. Friedman
I have not written much about the war in Ukraine lately because so little has changed strategically since the first few months of this conflict, when three overarching facts pretty much drove everything — and still do.
Fact No. 1: As I wrote at the outset, when a war of this magnitude begins, the key question you ask yourself as a foreign affairs columnist is very simple: Where should I be? Should I be in Kyiv, the Donbas, Crimea, Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, Brussels or Washington?
And from the start of this war, there has been only one place to be to understand its timing and direction — and that’s in Vladimir Putin’s head. Unfortunately, Putin doesn’t grant visas to his brain.
That’s a real problem because this war emerged entirely from there — with, we now know, almost no input from his cabinet or military commanders — and certainly with no mass urging from the Russian people. So Russia will be stopped in Ukraine, whether it’s winning or losing, only when Putin decides to stop.
Which leads to fact No. 2: Putin never had a Plan B. It’s now obvious that he thought he was going to waltz into Kyiv, seize it in a week, install a lackey as president, tuck Ukraine into his pocket and put to an end any further European Union, NATO or Western cultural expansion toward Russia. He would then cast his shadow across all of Europe.
This leads to fact No. 3: Putin has put himself in a situation where he can’t win, can’t lose and can’t stop. There’s no way he can seize control of all of Ukraine anymore. But at the same time, he can’t afford to be defeated, after all the Russian lives and treasure he has expended. So he can’t stop.
To put it differently, because Putin never had a Plan B, he’s defaulted to a punitive, often indiscriminate rocketing of Ukrainian towns and civilian infrastructure — a grinding war of attrition — with the hope that he can somehow drain enough blood from Ukrainians, and instill enough exhaustion in Kyiv’s Western allies, that they give him a big enough slice of Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine he can sell to the Russian people as a great victory.
Putin’s Plan B is to disguise that Putin’s Plan A has failed. If this military operation had an honest name, it would be called Operation Save My Face.
Which makes this one of the sickest, most senseless wars in modern times — a leader destroying another country’s civilian infrastructure until it gives him enough cover to hide the fact that he’s been a towering fool.
You can see from Putin’s Victory Day speech in Moscow on Tuesday that he is now grasping for any rationale to justify a war he started out of his personal fantasy that Ukraine is not a real country but part of Russia. He claimed his invasion was provoked by Western “globalists and elites” who “talk about their exclusivity, pit people and split society, provoke bloody conflicts and upheavals, sow hatred, Russophobia, aggressive nationalism and destroy traditional family values that make a person a person.”
Wow. Putin invaded Ukraine to preserve Russian family values. Who knew? That’s a leader struggling to explain to his people why he started a war with a puny neighbor that he says is not a real country.
You might ask, why does a dictator like Putin feel he needs a disguise? Can’t he make his people believe whatever he wants?
I don’t think so. If you look at his behavior, it seems that Putin is quite frightened today by two subjects: arithmetic and Russian history.
To understand why these subjects frighten him, you need to first consider the atmosphere enveloping him.
One of the biggest lessons I’ve learned as a foreign affairs writer reporting from autocratic countries is that no matter how tightly controlled a place is, no matter how brutal and iron-fisted its dictator, EVERYBODY TALKS.
They know who is stealing, who is cheating, who is lying, who is having an affair with whom. It starts with a whisper and often stays there, but everybody talks.
Putin clearly knows this
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Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov contradicted the pre-war Kremlin justifications for the war by asserting that the Russian “special military operation” began as “a conflict between Russia and Ukraine.” He said that Russia has “partially” achieved the goals of “protecting” people in Donbas,[9] but added that Russia is still far from fully achieving these goals. He said that it was ”hard to believe” at the beginning of the war that NATO, the United States, and European countries would ”intervene in this conflict.” ISW previously reported that the Kremlin has begun to shift its domestic narratives to claim that Russia is fighting only against NATO in an effort to set informational conditions for potential Russian military failures during the planned Ukrainian counteroffensive.[10] Peskov’s statement is consistent with the new Russian narrative but contradicts Russian President Vladimir Putin’s statements prior to the February 24, 2022 invasion. Putin stated on February 21, 2022, that Russia is ”not fighting the Ukrainian people” and claimed that Ukraine had become a hostage of its ”Western masters.”[11] The Russian pre-war justification for the invasion relied heavily on portraying a NATO threat to Russia supposedly emanating from Ukraine.[12]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-11-2023
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Moscow denies reports Ukraine has broken through front lines
Russia’s defence ministry has denied reports that Ukrainian forces had broken through in various places along the front lines and said the military situation was under control, according to Reuters.
Moscow was reacting after Russian military bloggers, writing on the Telegram messaging app, reported what they said were Ukrainian advances north and south of the eastern Ukrainian city of Bakhmut, with some suggesting a long-awaited counteroffensive by pro-Kyiv forces had started.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy had earlier said the offensive had yet to start.
“Statements circulated by individual Telegram channels about ‘defence breakthroughs’ that took place in different areas along the line of military contact do not correspond to reality,” the Russian defence ministry said in a Telegram post.
“The overall situation in the area of the special military operation is under control,” it said in a statement, using the Kremlin’s description of the war in Ukraine.
The fact the Russian ministry felt obliged to release the statement reflects what Moscow acknowledges is a “very difficult” military operation.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/may/12/russia-ukraine-war-
live-moscow-denies-wagner-claims-of-bakhmut-breakthrough-by-ukraine
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Quote:I learned a long time ago that nearly everything YOU post is a lie, and frankly, I don't have time to waste on your posts, troll.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, why don't you start screaming that only you know the Holy Truth about Russians and every contradiction is Fake News from the Faithless?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey dumb shit SECOND... did you get an award at school for "stupid"? Or was it for "lying"?
Asking an Estonian elite about Russia is like asking ... well... you.
I don't read your walls of gibberish and I sure didn't read his.
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Im fact, if you're as rich and in-charge as you say (ahem!) you are, how do you find the time to search out and repost such tidbits of crap?
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Quote:Signym, have you got some kind of learning disorder? Because none of this stuff takes more than two minutes to read unless you have to slowly sound out the words and use your English-to-Russian dictionary to translate them into a language you are more familiar with.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I learned a long time ago that nearly everything YOU post is a lie, and frankly, I don't have time to waste on your posts, troll.
Im fact, if you're as rich and in-charge as you say (ahem!) you are, how do you find the time to search out and repost such tidbits of crap?
How about this story: Ukrainian defenders kill 750 Russian soldiers in one day
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/12/7401816/
Signym, it is about Russians being converted into dead meat for dogs to eat. Fortunately for Putin, there are millions of Russians available to be made into dog chow. Those Russians won't be missed. Stalin proved the same, killing millions of Russians in a fit of pique. Even today, Russians pretend that didn't happen.
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SECOND, why should I waste my time on crap? I can tell from the first two sentences whether something is worth reading, and your "stuff", frankly, doesn't rate.
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Has the Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive begun?
Military Summary Channel (a pro-Kiev website) says "yes"
Zelenskiy says "no".
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Quote:Signym, you'd learn some sad truths about Russia, if you click on the link:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, why should I waste my time on crap? I can tell from the first two sentences whether something is worth reading, and your "stuff", frankly, doesn't rate.
Country comparison Canada vs Russia
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/canada/russia
Russia - International emigrant stock
https://countryeconomy.com/demography/migration/emigration/russia
So many millions of Russians leaving for better places.
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Net migration - Russian Federation
United Nations Population Division. World Population Prospects: 2022 Revision.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SM.POP.NETM?locations=RU
Russian Federation 2022 942,445
The recent Russian emigrants are predominantly young, well-educated, and ambitious. Many continue to be active professionally and politically outside their home country. They tend, more than their predecessors, to have been driven out by current political circumstances or even political persecution.
https://www.gmfus.org/event/democratic-potential-new-russian-emigrants
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Georgiy Muradov, permanent representative of Crimea under the Russian president, told Russia's state-run news agency RIA Novosti in an interview published on Friday that the U.K. may be turned "into a devastated territory" following the delivery of the weapons to Ukraine.
"The English island itself risks turning into a devastated territory [after providing Ukraine with depleted uranium shells and long-range missiles] aimed at the Russian Crimea," said Muradov.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-crimea-threatens-destroy-uk-britain-uk
raine-storm-shadow-missiles-1799900
Or maybe this is old news, just another threat to nuke the UK, one more out of millions of times Russia has threatened to nuke the West. Maybe this time the Russians will really do it. Go for it, Putin! Show how manly you are! Nuke King Charles III!
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Russia welcomes Signym! Russia May Build a Village for American Conservatives
By Jon Jackson On 5/11/23
Plans are in place to build a village in the Moscow region for conservative Americans and Canadians, according to a Russian state media outlet.
The Kremlin-backed RIA Novosti news agency on Thursday reported on the community that caters to expatriates with "traditional" values, writing that construction is expected to begin next year.
While Russia is at odds with the U.S. government, especially in regards to the war in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin has taken up causes favored by many Western conservatives. He has signed legislation that restricts LGBTQ+ rights, and he enjoyed a closer relationship with former President Donald Trump than with Trump's Democratic successor to the White House.
Russian state-operated media outlets also give Trump favorable coverage and often air clips from right-wing pundits critical of the war in Ukraine, including former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
RIA Novosti quoted Timur Beslangurov—a partner of VISTA Immigration law firm who assists foreign investors in obtaining residency and citizenship in Russia—as saying "about 200 families want to emigrate [to Russia] for ideological reasons."
In total, Beslangurov said, tens of thousands of people with no ties to Russia want to move to the country.
The lawyer spoke about the planned project for conservative ex-pats at a legal forum in St. Petersburg, according to RIA Novosti, saying the regional government in Russia had approved plans for the village.
Beslangurov reportedly said traditional Catholics are among the 200 families from the United States and Canada that are looking to move to the Russian village because they "very strongly believe in the prophecy that Russia will remain the only Christian country in the world."
No Russian officials have announced plans for the village, but Beslangurov said the Moscow region administration has signed off on the project. He also said the community will be financed by the relocating families.
As for why Westerners are seeking to relocate to Russia, Beslangurov cited the spread of progressive values.
"The reason is the propaganda of radical values: Today they have 70 genders, it is not known what will happen next. Many normal people emigrate, including considering Russia, but they face huge bureaucratic problems of Russian migration legislation," he said.
When reached for comment, Beslangurov told Newsweek that he could not provide any additional information about the village project.
George Ajjan, international political strategist, told Newsweek that if the report of the village is to be believed, Russia would likely not have too much trouble filling the village with conservatives.
"There are plenty of Americans who have made a choice to live abroad, whether borne of pragmatism and logistic ease, or ideological reasons," Ajjan said. "Out of 330 million, you could probably populate a small compound in Moscow suburbs with Americans as obsessed with their wokeness victimization narrative as they are willfully ignorant of the harsh realities of living in an authoritarian state."
Newsweek has reached out to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs for comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-may-build-village-american-conservativ
es-1799809
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Moscow has acknowledged that its forces had fallen back north of the battlefield city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine, in a retreat that the head of Russia’s Wagner private army called a “rout”.
The setback for Russia comes after reports of Ukrainian advances around the city and suggests a coordinated push by Kyiv to encircle Russian forces in Bakhmut, which has been Moscow’s main objective for months during the war’s bloodiest fighting.
“The loss of the Berkhivka reservoir – the loss of this territory they gave up – that’s five square kilometres, just today,” Prigozhin said.
“The enemy has completely freed up the Chasiv Yar-Bakhmut road which we had blocked. The enemy is now able to use this road, and secondly, they have taken tactical high round under which Bakhmut is located,” said Prigozhin, who has repeatedly denounced Russia’s regular military over the past week for failing to supply his forces in Bakhmut.
It means both sides are now reporting the biggest Ukrainian gains in six months . . .
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/12/russian-troops-fall-back-to-r
egroup-north-of-ukraines-bakhmut
Are the Russians setting a deadly trap for Ukrainians? Or are the Russians dead dog meat? Nobody knows! It is a cliffhanger episode in this war!
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