Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:You are the guy with no teeth, no job, diabetes, a 450-pound brother, a broken family, 5 feet tall, and a deep lover for Mein Führer Trump. Congratulations, 6ix! You are the bedrock of America! An absolutely essential man who is necessary to keep America strong. Sieg Heil!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Get fucked, retard.
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You're the lunatic who posts death threats to public figures and encourages people to kill themselves under the handle that you managed to actually get banned from fff.net, a site that is almost impossible to get banned from.
You're a little boy who lives with his mother who hates you and wishes she could have the world's latest term abortion.
If you were going through half of what I'm going through now, you would have already killed yourself, because you're a pussy.
BTW... How was work today, honey?
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Quote:It is satisfying having meaningful work. I might eventually write a Firefly story where River gets Kaylee a paying job, kept secret from Mal so that she keeps the money, as an engineer. It is a sitting job that can be done from her quarters. She is a star-ship engine designer. (Kaylee's ultimate payday is a ride to Earth.) For River, Kaylee designs physics experiments for telepathy and precognition. River's psychic powers will go, with Kaylee's engineering, from weird flavors occasionally added to Firefly episodes to whole episodes. And all the while, Mal never figures out what is going on. Better he does not know because he'd say "NO!" You don't have to be psychic to know that about Mal.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're the lunatic who posts death threats to public figures and encourages people to kill themselves under the handle that you managed to actually get banned from fff.net, a site that is almost impossible to get banned from.
You're a little boy who lives with his mother who hates you and wishes she could have the world's latest term abortion.
If you were going through half of what I'm going through now, you would have already killed yourself, because you're a pussy.
BTW... How was work today, honey?
6ix, you are pure Russian. Bragging all the time about nothing, making predictions that go nowhere, contemplating Russian roulette. With Russians, their sad story is the history of WWII and the Soviet Union's collapse. With 6ix, his sad story is his family's history. No wonder you drank like a Russian. When will your pain end? Only when the US Democrats are destroyed and the word "Ukraine" is removed from all maps! 6ix and Putin share that need.
Putin Is Running out of Red Lines
Washington finally agreed that American-made F-16 jets could be delivered to Ukraine after months of reluctance and concerns over whether, for Vladimir Putin, giving the aircraft the green light might cross a red line.
Since the start of the Russian president's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. and its allies have incrementally stepped up their provision of headline-grabbing weapons. HIMARS, the M777 Howitzers and the Leopard and Challenger tanks and, most recently, Patriot missile systems.
The F-16 will encourage Putin to make statements, as he has done before, that Russia might have to resort to draconian measures, such as a nuclear response. The Russian leader threatened in October that it was "not a bluff" to say he would use all means to protect his country.
"Simply put, unless Putin is willing to deploy its nuclear weapons, Moscow cannot retaliate in a meaningful way," Wes Renfro, political science professor at Quinnipiac University, Hamden, Connecticut. "Escalation with nuclear weapons is a losing game for Putin and is unlikely until or unless the Ukrainian boondoggle threatens his grip on power," he told Newsweek.
The planes are not going to be a game-changer on the battlefield, given the strength of Russian air defenses. But Putin is playing a waiting game, hoping that the West will lose interest in supporting Ukraine if the fighting doesn’t end by the second anniversary of this war.
"There will be limits on the munitions and supporting capabilities provided, and I would expect such weapons systems and support for them will come with limits on how they can be used," said Lewis Griffith, professor of international studies at the University of Denver.
Griffith told Newsweek that the U.S. views the F-16 as it did the Abrams tank earlier, as "a technological step up for the Ukrainians but below direct U.S. and NATO involvement and not a system in these numbers that alters Russia’s fundamental strategic calculations.”
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-red-lines-f16s-ukraine-russia-war-escal
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Working out accurately who is spending what can be difficult. For international comparison, defence spending is usually reckoned as a share of gdp, at market exchange rates. By this measure global military expenditures appear close to a post-cold-war low, at around 2.5%. But market exchange rates greatly underestimate the true size of defence establishments in countries such as China and Russia, where a given dollar of military spending can pay for a lot more weapons and soldiers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230524072143/https://www.economist.com/i
nternational/2023/05/23/what-a-war-tax-means-for-the-global-economy
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Russian Lawmaker Suggests Alaska As Nuclear Target
BY BRENDAN COLE ON 5/24/23 AT 7:22 AM EDT
Retired general Andrey Gurulyov, a State Duma deputy, raised the possibility of Moscow attacking the territory that the U.S. purchased from the Russian government in 1867. He discussed with TV anchor Vladimir Solovyov the war in Ukraine. Gurulyov started spitballing some ideas of how Moscow could wrest back the initiative in its fight with the West. He then described how strikes with tactical nuclear weapons against command centers, airfields and so on, would "paralyze" Ukraine. "Then a totally different conversation will start," he said.
https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-nuclear-solovyov-ukraine-russia-guruly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It is satisfying having meaningful work.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're the lunatic who posts death threats to public figures and encourages people to kill themselves under the handle that you managed to actually get banned from fff.net, a site that is almost impossible to get banned from.
You're a little boy who lives with his mother who hates you and wishes she could have the world's latest term abortion.
If you were going through half of what I'm going through now, you would have already killed yourself, because you're a pussy.
BTW... How was work today, honey?
Bitch, please... You work at Walmart. You're not curing cancer.
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I might eventually write a Firefly story where River gets Kaylee a paying job, kept secret from Mal so that she keeps the money, as an engineer. It is a sitting job that can be done from her quarters. She is a star-ship engine designer. (Kaylee's ultimate payday is a ride to Earth.) For River, Kaylee designs physics experiments for telepathy and precognition. River's psychic powers will go, with Kaylee's engineering, from weird flavors occasionally added to Firefly episodes to whole episodes. And all the while, Mal never figures out what is going on. Better he does not know because he'd say "NO!" You don't have to be psychic to know that about Mal.
I'm sure that Kaylee is as one dimensional in your story as your fake life you made for your boring Second avatar. At least Reaverfan was pure hate and insanity 24/7.
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6ix, you are pure Russian.
No. Actually, Russian is one of the few white people places that I have no blood ties to. Fortunately, the same can be said about Ukraine.
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Bragging all the time about nothing,
It's not bragging if it's true.
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making predictions that go nowhere,
Most of my predictions have already come true. Of the few that haven't, time is on my side.
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contemplating Russian roulette.
Nah. I don't own a six shooter. Not much of a game of Russian Roulette when you've got a Colt 45.
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With Russians, their sad story is the history of WWII and the Soviet Union's collapse. With 6ix, his sad story is his family's history.
Sure. Attack somebody for the family they were born into. Stay classy.
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No wonder you drank like a Russian.
And I've been sober for 6 years and 6 months next week.
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When will your pain end?
What pain?
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Only when the US Democrats are destroyed
That's good for every American. Even the stupid ones that don't realize it.
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and the word "Ukraine" is removed from all maps!
I don't give a shit about the future of Ukraine. It can stay on the maps.
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6ix and Putin share that need.
The only thing that Putin and I share is the desire for the end of US imperialism.
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You've really gotten under SECOND'S skin, SIX. I think he's drunk-posting.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You've really gotten under SECOND'S skin, SIX. I think he's drunk-posting
Russia’s military is less than meets the eye
While the offensive has seen Moscow field a broad range of conventional weaponry, those next-generation technologies haven’t yet made a meaningful appearance. To the contrary, as the conflict has dragged on, Russia has been forced to rely more and more on foreign military supplies and old Soviet-era hardware to shore up its badly depleted forces.
An exception in this regard has been the Kinzhal, Russia’s most high profile — and supposedly formidable — hypersonic missile. The Kinzhal (“dagger” in Russian), has been billed by Russian president Vladimir Putin as an unstoppable super-weapon for the past half-decade. But it has proved distinctly underwhelming in practice. Last week, for instance, half a dozen of the advanced missiles were neutralized by Ukraine using American-provided defenses.
The second factor affecting Russia’s deteriorating military potential is its deepening “brain drain.” For years, the country’s best and brightest engineers, scientists and innovators have been abandoning Putin’s increasingly authoritarian regime in droves, deepening Russia’s larger trajectory of demographic decline. This trendline has accelerated dramatically since the start of the war in Ukraine, as Russians have voted with their feet to protest the conflict or simply to avoid conscription. Perhaps as many as 1,000,000 Russians are estimated to have left the country since the invasion began, representing the largest such exodus in over a century.
The results have been truly ruinous both for the long-term health of Russia’s population and for its innovative capacity. This was recently made clear by Valentin Parmon, the Vice President of the prestigious Russian Academy of Scientists. In a recent interview with the Interfax news agency, Parmon explained that “no other countries have lost so many workers in the scientific field” as Russia over the past half-decade, numbering a staggering 50,000 people. “[T]he future depends on knowledge-intensive technologies,” said Parmon, “[and] Russia as a state has let those who can do [these specialties] go.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-military-is-less-than-me
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Here is some more drunk posting comrade.
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Nether side is saying how many of its soldies were killed at Artemovsk (Bakhmut) but I'm going to take a stab a it and guess 80,000 Ukrainians (appx 100 per day over appx 800 days) and, since was this was urban combat, assuming 5:1 in Russia's favor (lower than the estimated 6-7:1 for defensive fighting) 16,000 Russians.
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THUGR, you're posting complete and utter bullshit. VIDEO EVIDENCE shows that a Patriot missile battery firing off 32 missiles in appx 2 minutes was itself struck on the ground. Probably by (a) Kinzhal missile(s). Go look at the video yourself (if you can find it.It's been scrubbed from the inet, but I watched it myself). You'll see a lot of launches followed by one (some say two) explosions on the ground. Russia says it destroyed one radar and five of eight launchers.
USA says that the installationt was "damaged". (Yeah, I'll bet it was! 
)
Kiev says, not that anyone should pay attention to them, that they knocked out a perfect score on Kinzhal missiles. If that were the case, then apparently they failed to hit and destroy older, slower, missiles.
When you read claims like that, THUGR, you really REALLY REALLY should look for evidence, especially when those claims come from habitual liars.
ETA: And with all of the potential sources I linked for you, why are you still going to bullshit websites? Yanno, there are thoughtful analysts and reporters out there. They don't always get it right, but at least they're not 90% propaganda 100% of the time.
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It took a while to find but here is the original video. Patriot missiles are being fired off so quickly (from at least two locations) it looks like a grand finale of a fireworks show. You have to wait a bit to catch the on-the-ground explosion. Some people saw two, I only saw one.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1658287607938162690
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Quote:Signym, do you want me to repost your medical records, again? The information you put on the internet then took down because it was stupid for you to do? Little old 6ix is still shocked a year later, like he is a tiny child, that I would hold on to your information freely splattered all over the internet. Talking about splattered, the Russians splattered their blood literally for Bakhmut:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You've really gotten under SECOND'S skin, SIX. I think he's drunk-posting.
The Battle of Bakhmut exposed several key flaws in the Russian planning and conduct of operational maneuver. The Russian military command continued to pursue a relentless assault on Bakhmut after the city lost its original operational significance and failed to adjust its military objectives appropriately. The Kremlin, evidently, chased after any potential victory to generate informational effects and allowed Prigozhin to expend a large amount of Russian ammunition and thousands of prisoner recruits and then more professional forces to maintain a battle of no operational significance in Bakhmut. Prigozhin also continued this battle to gain desired political standing in Russia – likely without the intent to pursue the original goal of conducting a wider encirclement of Donbas. The Kremlin’s fixation with Bakhmut indicates that Russia has not learned lessons from the first phases of the war. The Russian military command continues to overestimate Russian military capabilities and has not mastered time and space relationships in this war at its current level of effectiveness. The Russian military command also continues to pursue ill-informed political objectives at the expense of Russian personnel and resources.
It is not even clear that the Battle of Bakhmut is yet over. Ukrainian forces have been conducting local counterattacks on Bakhmut’s flanks, having regained the initiative following Wagner’s culmination.[64]
Much more at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/kremlin%E2%80%99s-pyrrhi
c-victory-bakhmut-retrospective-battle-bakhmut
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Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.
Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, you're posting complete and utter bullshit. VIDEO EVIDENCE shows that a Patriot missile battery firing off 32 missiles in appx 2 minutes was itself struck on the ground. Probably by (a) Kinzhal missile(s). Go look at the video yourself (if you can find it.It's been scrubbed from the inet, but I watched it myself). You'll see a lot of launches followed by one (some say two) explosions on the ground. Russia says it destroyed one radar and five of eight launchers.
USA says that the installationt was "damaged". (Yeah, I'll bet it was!
Kiev says, not that anyone should pay attention to them, that they knocked out a perfect score on Kinzhal missiles. If that were the case, then apparently they failed to hit and destroy older, slower, missiles.
When you read claims like that, THUGR, you really REALLY REALLY should look for evidence, especially when those claims come from habitual liars.
ETA: And with all of the potential sources I linked for you, why are you still going to bullshit websites? Yanno, there are thoughtful analysts and reporters out there. They don't always get it right, but at least they're not 90% propaganda 100% of the time.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It took a while to find but here is the original video. Patriot missiles are being fired off so quickly (from at least two locations) it looks like a grand finale of a fireworks show. You have to wait a bit to catch the on-the-ground explosion. Some people saw two, I only saw one.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1658287607938162690
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.
Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.
Yup. His mother would not be proud of him. He is an embarrassment to himself and any family member that hasn't written him off as the low-life piece of shit he is.
Who can tell if he's drunk posting or not. Everything he says is just terrible.
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Quote:Putin’s future mother was almost dumped in a mass grave during the WWII-era Leningrad siege and was rescued at the last moment by his injured future father, who had just returned from combat. Putin was born seven years later; on such slender threads do the fates of nations hang.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.
Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.
https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/accidental-czar-creative-take-p
utin-biography
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Quote:Speaking of slender threads ... Zaluzhny, Ukraine's military commander and link between Ukraine and NATO, has been missing since May 8.He missed a meeting with NATO that is SO important, Europeans are openly speculating that Zaluzhny is either dead or in critical condition.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Putin’s future mother was almost dumped in a mass grave during the WWII-era Leningrad siege and was rescued at the last moment by his injured future father, who had just returned from combat. Putin was born seven years later; on such slender threads do the fates of nations hang.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.
Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.
https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/accidental-czar-creative-take-p
utin-biography
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Commander-in-chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces said to be in critical condition after being wounded
https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/05/20/commander-in-chief-of-ukrainian-
armed-forces-said-to-be-in-critical-condition-after-being-wounded/
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Quote:If people at the pinnacle of the Ukrainian hierarchy stop coming to work because they died, somebody else will do the work and the war continues. Why? Because Ukraine's existence is threatened by ending the war.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Speaking of slender threads ... Zaluzhny, Ukraine's military commander and link between Ukraine and NATO, has been missing since May 8.He missed a meeting with NATO that is SO important, Europeans are openly speculating that Zaluzhny is either dead or in critical condition.
Commander-in-chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces said to be in critical condition after being wounded
https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/05/20/commander-in-chief-of-ukrainian-
armed-forces-said-to-be-in-critical-condition-after-being-wounded/
On the other hand, if Putin stopped coming to work, the war is over. Whoever replaces Putin has zero reasons to continue Putin's pet project of annihilating Ukraine. Russia's existence is not threatened by ending the Ukraine War just like the US's existence was not threatened by abruptly ending the Afghanistan War. Putin said this war is existential, but Putin is lying to justify his "special military operation" (Russians don't say war or they go to jail).
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If people at the pinnacle of the Ukrainian hierarchy stop coming to work because they died, somebody else will do the work and the war continues. Why? Because Ukraine's existence is threatened by ending the war.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Speaking of slender threads ... Zaluzhny, Ukraine's military commander and link between Ukraine and NATO, has been missing since May 8.He missed a meeting with NATO that is SO important, Europeans are openly speculating that Zaluzhny is either dead or in critical condition.
Commander-in-chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces said to be in critical condition after being wounded
https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/05/20/commander-in-chief-of-ukrainian-
armed-forces-said-to-be-in-critical-condition-after-being-wounded/
On the other hand, if Putin stopped coming to work, the war is over. Whoever replaces Putin has zero reasons to continue Putin's pet project of annihilating Ukraine. Russia's existence is not threatened by ending the Ukraine War just like the US's existence was not threatened by abruptly ending the Afghanistan War. Putin said this war is existential, but Putin is lying to justify his "special military operation" (Russians don't say war or they go to jail).
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Uh huh.
Whatever happened to your narrative of Russians' centuries-long history of being ravening cannibalistic barbarian imperialists?
Can't you even lie consistently?
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Quote:Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Uh huh.
Whatever happened to your narrative of Russians' centuries-long history of being ravening cannibalistic barbarian imperialists?
Can't you even lie consistently?
Russian leaders killed other Russians by the tens of millions during the 20th Century. Stalin killed far MORE Russians than Germans. As a strategy, Russian leaders kill their own as a way toward military victory. Here is that mechanism at work in Ukraine:
Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin claimed during an interview with Russian political strategist Konstantin Dolgov on May 23 that Wagner lost 10,000 convict recruits and 10,000 full-time professional Wagner fighters killed in action over the course of the Battle for Bakhmut.[1] Prigozhin specifically noted that Wagner had recruited 50,000 prisoners, 20 percent of whom (10,000) died in fighting for Bakhmut.[2] Russian milbloggers immediately seized on the reported losses, thereby shifting the overall Russian conversation away from discussions of the significance of the capture of Bakhmut and towards amplifying speculation surrounding the reported losses. The nationalist pro-war faction, exemplified by the views of former Russian officer Igor Girkin, commented on the massive scale of the reported losses and speculated that real losses may be much higher. Russian politician Viktor Alksnis simply remarked that the Soviet Army lost far fewer soldiers (15,051) in nine years in Afghanistan.[3] Girkin stated that he believes that Wagner’s actual losses could be more than 1.5 times higher than Prigozhin’s claims and pointed out that of the 50,000 recruits Wagner received from prisons, 10,000 died in action and 26,000 reportedly received pardons and returned to Russia, leaving 14,000 prison recruits unaccounted for.[4] Girkin suggested that a large portion of these 14,000 unaccounted-for prison recruits may have also been killed in action and claimed that Wagner has likely suffered more than 40,000 killed in action.[5] Girkin suggested that Prigozhin “keep [his] mouth shut” and stop talking about “wild losses for a very insignificant result.”[6] Another Russian milblogger, by contrast, praised Prigozhin for being open about the scale of losses and stated that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) would have hidden such figures.[7]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-24-2023
Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
Download the free book from https://libgen.unblockit.asia/search.php?req=R.+J.+Rummel
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Russian leaders use Russians like artillery shells. If a shell won't do what the Russian leaders want, which is to blast itself at the enemy, the shell is destroyed anyway. That is why it is a crime in Russia to be anti-war. The Russian 2022 Laws Establishing War Censorship and Prohibiting Anti-War Statements and Calls for Sanctions is a group of federal laws promulgated by the Russian government during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_2022_war_censorship_laws The laws have been strongly condemned by human rights groups but when you are only an artillery shell to the Russian leadership, you don't have human rights.
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Russia’s military is less than meets the eye
May 24, 2023 Ilan I. Berman
For many years now, officials in Moscow have extolled the virtues of Russia’s “wonder weapons,” military breakthroughs and technological advances (such as fifth generation fighter jets, autonomous battle tanks, and mechanized combat walkers) that they maintained were nothing short of game-changers in modern warfare. For most of that time, officials in Washington and European capitals believed them, and tempered a great many of their policies so as not to antagonize the Kremlin.
But the war in Ukraine has changed all that. Nearly a year-and-a-half into Russia’s “special military operation” against its western neighbor, its next-generation arms have failed to materialize in any meaningful way. While the offensive has seen Moscow field a broad range of conventional weaponry, those next-generation technologies haven’t yet made a meaningful appearance. To the contrary, as the conflict has dragged on, Russia has been forced to rely more and more on foreign military supplies and old Soviet-era hardware to shore up its badly depleted forces.
An exception in this regard has been the Kinzhal, Russia’s most high profile — and supposedly formidable — hypersonic missile. The Kinzhal (“dagger” in Russian), has been billed by Russian president Vladimir Putin as an unstoppable super-weapon for the past half-decade. But it has proved distinctly underwhelming in practice. Last week, for instance, half a dozen of the advanced missiles were neutralized by Ukraine using American-provided defenses.
Russia’s high-tech military, in other words, is turning out to be much more modest than advertised. Nor is this state of affairs likely to change any time soon, for at least two reasons.
The first is the widening array of Western sanctions levied on Russia for its ongoing aggression against Ukraine. Contrary to Kremlin claims, those measures appear to be having a real impact on the health of the national economy and manufacturing. Yet the impact on Russia’s future warfighting potential — including its development of next-generation weapons — is likely to be even more pronounced.
A recent study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a prominent DC think tank, noted that sanctions “create shortages of higher-end foreign components and force Moscow to substitute them with lower-quality alternatives,” and that “for now, Moscow’s efforts at state-backed import substitution remain largely unsuccessful.”
“This ultimately impacts Russia’s ability to manufacture, sustain, and deliver advanced weapons and technology to the battlefield in Ukraine,” the report notes. “Therefore, while the quality of the military equipment used by the Ukrainian army continues to improve thanks to the Western aid, the quality of Russia’s weapons continues to degrade.”
The second factor affecting Russia’s deteriorating military potential is its deepening “brain drain.” For years, the country’s best and brightest engineers, scientists and innovators have been abandoning Putin’s increasingly authoritarian regime in droves, deepening Russia’s larger trajectory of demographic decline. This trendline has accelerated dramatically since the start of the war in Ukraine, as Russians have voted with their feet to protest the conflict or simply to avoid conscription. Perhaps as many as 1,000,000 Russians are estimated to have left the country since the invasion began, representing the largest such exodus in over a century.
The results have been truly ruinous both for the long-term health of Russia’s population and for its innovative capacity. This was recently made clear by Valentin Parmon, the Vice President of the prestigious Russian Academy of Scientists. In a recent interview with the Interfax news agency, Parmon explained that “no other countries have lost so many workers in the scientific field” as Russia over the past half-decade, numbering a staggering 50,000 people. “[T]he future depends on knowledge-intensive technologies,” said Parmon, “[and] Russia
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Quote:Ask SECOND a simple question .... get a wall of bullshit.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Speaking of slender threads ... Zaluzhny, Ukraine's military commander and link between Ukraine and NATO, has been missing since May 8.He missed a meeting with NATO that is SO important, Europeans are openly speculating that Zaluzhny is either dead or in critical condition.
Commander-in-chief of Ukrainian Armed Forces said to be in critical condition after being wounded
https://euroweeklynews.com/2023/05/20/commander-in-chief-of-ukrainian-
armed-forces-said-to-be-in-critical-condition-after-being-wounded/
SECOND: If people at the pinnacle of the Ukrainian hierarchy stop coming to work because they died, somebody else will do the work and the war continues. Why? Because Ukraine's existence is threatened by ending the war.
On the other hand, if Putin stopped coming to work, the war is over. Whoever replaces Putin has zero reasons to continue Putin's pet project of annihilating Ukraine. Russia's existence is not threatened by ending the Ukraine War just like the US's existence was not threatened by abruptly ending the Afghanistan War. Putin said this war is existential, but Putin is lying to justify his "special military operation" (Russians don't say war or they go to jail).
SIGNY: Uh huh.
Whatever happened to your narrative of Russians' centuries-long history of being ravening cannibalistic barbarian imperialists?
Can't you even lie consistently?
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Quote:Signym, nothing changes if Zaluzhny, Ukraine's military commander and link between Ukraine and NATO, is dead. The War continues because Ukraine continues fighting or else it is annihilated. Is that so hard for you to understand, Signym?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ask SECOND a simple question .... get a wall of bullshit.
But if Putin is dead, the War ends abruptly because this War is a total waste of Russian resources. Signym, is that also too hard for you to understand?
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There wouldn't be a war if Trump were President.
This isn't a zero sum game and it needs to stop being treated as if it were.
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Quote:All the countries invaded by Russia in 1939 joined NATO because Russia would do it again once it recovered from its collapsing government in 1991. Trump can't change that unless Trump nuked Russia in 2017, which he did not.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There wouldn't be a war if Trump were President.
This isn't a zero sum game and it needs to stop being treated as if it were.
6ix, in war there has to be a loser who ends with less than zero gains.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:All the countries invaded by Russia in 1939 joined NATO because Russia would do it again once it recovered from its collapsing government in 1991.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There wouldn't be a war if Trump were President.
This isn't a zero sum game and it needs to stop being treated as if it were.
No.
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Trump can't change that unless Trump nuked Russia in 2017, which he did not.
It would never have happened in the first place if Democrats hadn't stolen the 2020 election through en masse mail-in-fraud ballots and ballot harvesting.
Trump will end the war when he is reelected in November of 2024 and Joe* finally gets the boot.
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6ix, in war there has to be a loser who ends with less than zero gains.
There doesn't need to be a war. There never needed to be a war.
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Quote:Do you understand the concept of a sore loser? Trump can't admit he failed and, for perverted psychological reasons, must change the game to claim he was cheated out of a win. If the world was a better place, sore losers would be knocked down and kicked until all their ribs were broken, just to emphasize that they lost. That rib kicking should have happened after the Civil War, but a slave-owning President, Andrew Johnson, pardoned all the Confederates, who then never needed to admit they lost for good reasons.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No.
It would never have happened in the first place if Democrats hadn't stolen the 2020 election through en masse mail-in-fraud ballots and ballot harvesting.
Trump will end the war when he is reelected in November of 2024 and Joe* finally gets the boot.Quote:
6ix, in war there has to be a loser who ends with less than zero gains.
There doesn't need to be a war. There never needed to be a war.
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"Ukraine has said that it intends to take back Crimea, but that it would prefer to do so bloodlessly," Tannehill explained. "The moment that a JASSM [Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile] fired from an F-16 is capable of isolating Crimea, that's the moment when the F-16s are needed most."
The JASSM missiles that Tannehill mentioned as being critical for any potential future operations aimed at disabling the Kerch Strait Bridge or driving the Russian navy from its port in Sevastopol have a range of 370 kilometers. Without JASSMs, the F-16s would still be of use to Ukraine, but their potential would be limited largely to providing an extra layer of air defense against cruise missiles.
"Nobody in Ukraine treats F-16s as a silver bullet that will suddenly end the war," Bielieskov said, "but the aircraft give our military necessary capabilities which could at least help to shorten it."
Despite the best predictions of aviation warfare experts, exactly how the Ukrainian military will put its F-16s to use remains a closely guarded secret.
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-needs-f-16s-most-isolate-crimea-18025
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Quote:How do you know that? Do you know the stance of every possible Putin successor, the Duma, the military, various political parties, and the Russian people?
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, nothing changes if Zaluzhny, Ukraine's military commander and link between Ukraine and NATO, is dead. The War continues because Ukraine continues fighting or else it is annihilated. Is that so hard for you to understand, Signym?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ask SECOND a simple question .... get a wall of bullshit.
But if Putin is dead, the War ends abruptly because this War is a total waste of Russian resources. Signym, is that also too hard for you to understand?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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No, of course you don't. But that doesn't keep you from making shit up and pretending it's real.
According to some analysts, if Putin is gone people who are more hardline will take his place.
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Quote:Who are you kidding, Signym? Ukraine is old man Putin's hobby. With Putin gone, the next person will find another entertainment that is not so expensive and dangerous. Putin's parents were severely traumatized by WWII, while my parents were enriched and had wonderful life experiences during the war. If the next Russian in charge is young, rather than another elderly old fart such as Putin, and hasn't been traumatized like Putin, he won't continue Putin's mentally ill amusements in Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How do you know that? Do you know the stance of every possible Putin successor, the Duma, the military, various political parties, and the Russian people?
No, of course you don't. But that doesn't keep you from making shit up and pretending it's real.
According to some analysts, if Putin is gone people who are more hardline will take his place.
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Ukrainian Intelligence Says It’s Trying to Kill Putin
... In the first month of the war, then-Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett engaged Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in talks that nearly ended the war. The peace talks were blocked by Washington, but Putin pledged not to target Zelensky with any assassination attempts during those talks. The Kremlin appears to have upheld that agreement until the most recent attempt on Putin’s life.
It is unclear if Moscow will continue to abide by the pledge. Zelensky has spent several weeks outside of his nation, traveling to allied countries and meeting with his counterparts.
https://news.antiwar.com/2023/05/24/ukrainian-intelligence-says-its-tr
ying-to-kill-putin/
One of the younger guys in the lineup behind Putin ...
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Russia’s Medvedev calls for Zelensky to be killed amid Putin assassination attempt claims
by Joel Gehrke, Foreign Affairs Reporter
May 03, 2023 03:53 PM
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should be killed, a top ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin [Medvedev] suggested after the Kremlin claimed to have foiled a Ukrainian attack.
“After today's terrorist attack, there are no options left other than the physical elimination of Zelensky and his clique,” Kremlin Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev, a former Russian president under Putin, wrote on social media.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/me
dvedev-calls-for-zelensky-assassination
You know nothing, SECOND, and everything you post is shitcan material bc is comes from a shitcan brain.
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Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.
Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.
As with everything always wrong comrade, your most recent posts here are backwards at best, Ukrainian war casualties, or just plain bullshit.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trying to drag the thread off topic again, troll?
The more you post, the more hideous you look.
Oh BTW, I'm not at all embarrassed about my dx. I just wanted to avoid your trolling. (Which, predictably, you did and continue to do.) You OTOH should be very embarrassed by your own posts.
THUGR: As with everything always wrong comrade, your most recent posts here are backwards at best, Ukrainian war casualties, or just plain bullshit.
Well, THUGR, unlike SECOND'S unproveable posts about such evanescent topics like subconscious motives, national character etc at least your particular post deals with reality: numbers killed, weapons destroyed, and (eventually) square miles controlled and NATO status of Ukraine (in whatever form it winds up) at the end of the SMO.
Time will tell who's right. The question is, will you admit it if you're wrong?
EDITED TO ADD: Also, no open-ended timeclocks ticking away.
One day, the USA empire will fall. I'm confident of that. One day, the Russian government will change. I'm confident of that, too. But I don't know if it will happen in my lifetime, or yours.
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Who is Viktor Yanukovych, the former Ukrainian president Putin reportedly wants to put back in power?
by Jeremy Kahn
Who is Viktor Yanukovych?
The 72-year-old Yanukovych was Ukraine’s president from 2010 until he was ousted in February 2014 following widespread protests over his decision to reject the country’s agreement to align itself more closely with the European Union, with an eye toward future membership in the bloc, and instead pursue a Russian financial bailout package and tighter ties to Moscow.
Many Ukrainians and many international civil society groups had also criticized Yanukovych for running a corrupt administration, including charges that he embezzled funds from the government. (Yanukovych has denied he misappropriated government money.) He favored a small cabal of wealthy Ukrainian business tycoons, including his own son, Oleksandr Yanukovych, and members of his extended family. He also amassed a large personal fortune.
Despite having worked for most of his life as a mid-level business executive and then as a civil servant and politician, Yanukovych lived an extravagant lifestyle. His lavish estate on the outskirts of Kyiv, called Mezhyhirya, featured a giant wooden mansion with a pure copper roof, a private zoo, an underground shooting range, tennis courts, a bowling alley, and an 18-hole golf course.
Donbas origins and political rise
Born to a poor family in Donetsk Oblast, in the heavily Russian-speaking region of Donbas, Yanukovych was a trucking and transportation company manager before being appointed vice head and then head of the Donetsk Oblast regional government in 1996 and 1997.
Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma appointed Yanukovych the country’s prime minister in 2002 and his appointment was confirmed by the country’s legislature, the Verkhovna Rada, by a slim majority. He was viewed as pro-Russian, although he publicly stated that he supported Ukraine eventually joining the EU. His cabinet also agreed to send Ukrainian soldiers to support the U.S.-led coalition in the 2003 Iraq War, although it had come out against Ukraine seeking NATO membership.
In 2003, Yanukovych ran for president, drawing much of his support from the southern and eastern areas of Ukraine, which were traditionally seen as more pro-Russian. In the first round of voting in late October, no candidates passed the 50% threshold to be elected, so a runoff election was held a month later. In that vote, Yanukovych was declared the winner, but the election was marred by widespread allegations of fraud made by both Ukrainian civil society groups and international election monitors.
This resulted in two months of sustained protests, civil disobedience, and general strikes, a period that became known as Ukraine’s Orange Revolution. (The protesters had adopted the orange election campaign colors associated with Yanukovych’s opponent, Viktor Yuschenko.) The Ukrainian Supreme Court declared the election void and ordered a re-vote for late December 2004, in which Yuschenko was declared the winner.
Immediately after Yuschenko’s victory, Ukraine’s parliament passed a nonbinding no-confidence motion against Yanukovych’s government and urged the outgoing president, Kuchma, to appoint a caretaker government. Instead, Yanukovych resigned, saying later that he did so to avoid any political violence.
Following his resignation, Yanukovych led the main parliamentary opposition party against the coalition government headed by then Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. At the same time, Yunokovych’s political party, called the Party of Regions, moved explicitly closer to Russia, signing a formal collaboration agreement with the Russian political party United Russia.
Second presidential campaign
In 2009, Yanukovych ran for the Ukrainian presidency again, ultimately defeating Tymoshenko, the other main candidate, in a February 2010 runoff. Initially, Yanukovych said Ukraine’s integration with the EU was the country’s “strategic aim,” but he continued to say that Ukraine should not join NATO and that the country shoul
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OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.
Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!
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Quote:Reality is too fast and bothersome for Signym and 6ix so they have withdrawn, except for medical appointments and grocery shopping.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.
Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!
Russia conducted another massive Shahed-131/136 drone strike across Ukraine on the night of May 24 to 25. Ukrainian military sources reported that Russian forces launched 36 Shahed-131/136 drones at Ukraine from the northern and southern directions and that Ukraine shot down all 36 of the drones.[36] Russian milbloggers claimed that some of the drones reached their intended targets through rear areas of Ukraine, including Kyiv Oblast.[37] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command noted on May 25 that Ukraine has destroyed 357 Shahed-type drones since Russia began using them in 2022.[38] The White House reported on May 15 that Russia has purchased over 400 drones (primarily Shaheds) from Iran since August 2022.[39] The suggestion that Ukraine has shot down 357 Shahed drones since August 2022 is likely inflated—Ukrainian officials may sometimes count drone crashes due to user error or technical malfunction as official shoot downs, so the actual number is likely to be somewhat lower.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-25-2023
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Russia's fearsome S-400 air-defense missiles are getting unexpected missions as Moscow struggles in Ukraine
¦ Russia's S-400 is a highly regarded weapon designed to intercept a variety of aircraft and missiles.
¦ In Ukraine, expensive S-400 interceptors are being used against rocket artillery and ground targets.
¦ Repurposing S-400s for those missions is a sign of Moscow's struggle to turn the tide of the war.
This isn't the first time surface-to-air missiles have been used for other purposes. Egyptian forces fired them at Israeli tanks during the 1973 Arab–Israeli War. But anti-aircraft missiles aren't meant to fired at tanks or cities. For Russia's military, which has long touted its tactics and technology, having to misuse S-400s is a sign things aren't going well.
A 400-pound warhead may be devastating against an aircraft or another missile, but it is actually small compared to the 2,000-pound warhead on a cruise missile like the Russian Kh-22.
Surface-to-air missiles can only be a terror weapon because they're very inaccurate in a surface-to-surface role, Williams said of repurposed missile/aircraft interceptors.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-using-s400-air-defense-missiles
-to-attack-ground-targets-2023-5
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OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.
Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!
Hey comrade signym, the spring offensive is beginning.
tick tock
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OMG a veritable wall of bullshit from SECOND that I won't bother to read.
Hey SECOND, you can't POSSIBLY have a critical job bc you sure spend a lot of time posting on fff.net!
Hey comrade signym, the spring offensive is beginning.
tick tock
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Reality is too fast and bothersome for Signym and 6ix so they have withdrawn, except for medical appointments and grocery shopping.
You should ask yourself if any of your Pro-Ukraine cheerleading has made any impact on the world, large or small.
The answer is a definitive no.
You're lucky you live with your parents and they have enough money to keep paying for the anchor that's weighing them down even through the Biden* recession while you focus all of your energy on things that shouldn't matter to you and certainly don't matter to your parents.
Fuck Ukraine. And fuck NeoCons like you and Ted.
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Quote:Yes, some day it will. But I sure won't depend on you to tell me when!
Hey comrade signym, the spring offensive is beginning.
tick tock
BTW when I read this I thought of you
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You have the watches, but we have the time.”
The Taliban often referred to this old Afghan saying when discussing their fight against the Americans.
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Russia’s ‘invincible’ hypersonic missiles prove anything but
It was meant to be the Russian “wonder weapon,” but it turned out to be just another example of Vladimir Putin’s military over-promising and under-delivering.
The Kh-47M2 “Kinzhal” — which means “dagger” in Russian — was billed as a state-of-the-art hypersonic missile, “invincible,” in Putin’s words, to Western air defenses. For the early months of Russia’s full-scale war on Ukraine, it seemed to be just that. The missile had been used in the first year of the war to successfully strike several targets across Ukraine, no doubt causing significant damage.
That all changed when Ukraine received U.S.-manufactured Patriot PAC-2 and PAC-3 air defense systems in April. The PAC-3, the latest version of the venerable American system, was originally developed as part of America’s Strategic Defense Initiative, nicknamed “Star Wars” by its critics, first introduced in the early 1980s by President Ronald Reagan to counter ballistic missiles.
Over a little more than two weeks, Ukrainian-manned Patriots shot down seven out of seven Kinzhals launched at targets throughout Ukraine, according to the Ukrainian Air Force. Pentagon press secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder confirmed the first shoot-down at a press conference on May 9, and another administration official speaking to the New York Times on May 16 confirmed the other interceptions.
During the May 16 attack, which directly targeted the Patriot system, part of the platform suffered “minor” damage, according to U.S. officials, that was repaired within a day. The Kremlin, of course, has maintained the fiction that all its missiles successfully hit their targets. “The fake report that a Kinzhal was allegedly intercepted is a wishful thinking attempt,” a Russian Ministry of Defense source told the state media outlet TASS.
Even if the Ukrainian military is overstating its defensive capability, a Russian missile falling anywhere in Kyiv would have been detected by locals and recorded on social media. Since the arrival of the Patriot missile batteries, that has not happened.
The Kinzhal entered service in December 2017. Two years later, Putin declared that it and other Russian hypersonic weapons proved that Russia was leading the world in hypersonic capability. The boast was reminiscent of Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev’s bravado in the late 1950s, when he claimed that Soviet intercontinental ballistic missiles were rolling off the factory floor “like sausages,” feeding the false perception in the United States that the U.S. was at a disadvantage and suffering from a missile gap with Moscow. “We have a situation that is unique in modern history when they are trying to catch up with us," Putin said. “Not a single country has hypersonic weapons, let alone hypersonic weapons of intercontinental range.”
He was wrong.
In reality, the Kinzhal is not that impressive. It is an upgraded version of Russia’s older, ground-launched 9K720 Iskander ballistic missile, modified so that it can be air-launched from Russian aircraft. As for Putin’s claim of the weapon’s hypersonic speed, this was true in the same way all ballistic missiles since the German V-2 rockets started pulverizing London in World War II have achieved hypersonic speeds at certain phases of flight.
Despite Putin’s grand claims, air-launched ballistic missiles are not new technology.
The GAM-87 “Skybolt” air-launched ballistic missile was developed by the United States in the late 1950s, and hit top speeds of Mach 12, well in excess of the speeds the Kinzhal can reach. However, the project was ultimately canceled in 1962, when U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara assessed that the system provided very little benefit over the United States’ existing arsenal of land- and submarine-launched ballistic missiles.
Russian hubris that the system worked perfectly seemed even more incredible in light of the arrest of the third scientist responsible for the development of the Kinzhal on charges of “high treason.” On May 16, the same day Ukrain
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Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike
By Isabel van Brugen On 5/26/23 at 7:35 AM EDT
Medvedev also weighed in on how long he believed the war could last. "This conflict will last for a very long time. For decades, probably. This is a new reality," he said. "Everything always ends in negotiations, and this is inevitable, but as long as these people are in power, the situation for Russia will not change in terms of negotiations."
Russia's state-run news agency Tass cited Medvedev as saying that it's possible Ukraine "receives warplanes" and "maybe even nuclear weapons" from its Western allies. The U.S., Medvedev said, "operates largely within the field of its pragmatic interests."
"They do not wage a war, they are making money instead. They are trying to eliminate their centuries-long enemy."
"As far as Europe is concerned, it is a strange story for me. They keep heating up tensions with their decisions," Medvedev continued. "Europe has gone mad."
Medvedev has issued nuclear threats frequently throughout Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. President Vladimir Putin himself said in a televised address to the nation in September 2022 that he'd be prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory.
He has also suggested this month that Russia has no options left "aside the physical elimination of Zelensky and his cabal." He made the remarks on his Telegram channel after two drones crashed into the Kremlin in Moscow on May 3. Zelensky denied any involvement, saying his country didn't possess weapons capable of such strikes.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-medvedev-ukraine-nuclear-strike-weapon
s-west-putin-1802829
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So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing.
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Quote:Russia Starts Moving Nuclear Weapons to Ukrainian Neighbor
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing.
By Jon Jackson On 5/25/23 at 5:12 PM EDT
Russia has begun moving nuclear weapons to Belarus, which shares a 674-mile border with Ukraine, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said Thursday.
Lukashenko's announcement followed Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu meeting earlier in the day with Belarusian Defense Minister Viktor Khrenin in Minsk to sign documents about the placement of Russian tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-starts-moving-nuclear-weapons-ukrainia
n-neighbor-1802721
The news story does not say which direction the nukes are aimed at. Poland? Lithuania? Latvia? Those are NATO members bordering Belarus.
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So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing.
I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why.
Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from.
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Quote:Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"? That means a nuclear threat, Signym. So far, it is just words, but to give the words a little heftiness, Russia has begun moving nuclear weapons to Belarus, which shares a 674-mile border with Ukraine, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said Thursday. Is that too hard for you to see that there is a "threat", Signym? Or do nukes need to explode before it is a "threat" in your mind?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing.
I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why.
Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from.
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Russia-Ukraine war live: Kyiv says forces ready to launch counteroffensive
Senior Ukrainian official talks up ‘historic opportunity’ and says Kyiv ‘calm’ about Putin’s plan to move nuclear weapons to Belarus
The Kremlin is likely reviving its information campaign to coerce the West into forcing Ukraine to accept concessions and negotiate on terms favorable to Russia. The Kremlin claimed on May 26 that Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed “the openness of the Russian side to dialogue on the political and diplomatic track, which is still blocked by Kyiv and its Western sponsors” in a phone call with Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva.[20] Putin’s statement does not indicate that Russia is interested in pursuing negotiations with Ukraine, and the Kremlin has not established any serious grounds for negotiations nor abandoned its maximalist goals to force the Ukrainian government to capitulate. The Kremlin is likely attempting to intensify its false claims about its readiness to negotiate with Ukraine amidst the arrival of the Chinese Special Representative for Eurasian Affairs Li Hui in Moscow on May 26 to discuss a negotiated settlement to Russia’s war in Ukraine.[21] The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported that Li previously urged European officials to end the conflict in Ukraine before it escalates during his visit to European states in the past week.[22] The WSJ also reported that a (likely European, but unspecified) diplomat who spoke to Li explained that freezing the conflict was not beneficial to international interests and that Europe would not withdraw its support for Ukraine. The WSJ also reported that another (likely European, but unspecified) diplomat claimed that China’s main interests are ensuring Russian victory and ensuring that Russia does not use nuclear weapons. The claimed interaction likely indicates that China may be attempting to push the West to influence Ukraine into accepting a ceasefire. The Kremlin is likely amplifying its false interests in negotiations ahead of the planned Ukrainian counteroffensive in order to discourage continued Western aid to Ukraine. ISW has previously reported on Russia’s peace negotiation information operations to deter Western support for Ukraine.[23]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-26-2023
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Quote:Yes, SECOND, I see the WORD "threat" in the headline, but NOT IN YOUR QUOTE. So, where is MEDVEDEV's threat that you threaten us with?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing. I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why.
Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from.
SECOND: Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"?
Still no answer, but a lot of prevarication! Why is THAT, troll?
Select to view spoiler:
The very first para of your link: "Russia will launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike should the West provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons, Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned on Friday." Well, the answer is fucking simple: don't arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons! And the reason WHY SECOND refused to provide a full quote is bc he did what he likess to do: misquote/misinterpret/spin what others say to attempt to manipulate you.
Just as an aside, there is an informal distinction between sociopath and psychopath, altho it doesn't exist in the DSM. Psychopaths show a lot better impulse control and pre-planning. SECOND doesn't qualify as a psychopth bc he can't even keep his lies straight.
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Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?
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Originally posted by THG: Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?
What "it" are we giving another two weeks?
Two weeks until Ukraine launches it's offensive?
Two weeks until SECOND answers the question?
Please clarify.
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Quote:Dmitry Medvedev said that Ukraine's weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) are justification for a nuclear war with Ukraine. He is talking about upraising the existing war a couple of notches to full nuclear. Funny things start to happen when politicians talk about nonexistent WMDs. For example, President Bush said that Iraq's WMDs were the justification for war with Iraq. Iraq did not have real WMD's but that did not stop Bush from declaring Iraq did. Medvedev could do what Bush did. Medvedev does NOT need real, physical, actual, tangible WMDs in Ukraine to justify a nuclear war. All Medvedev needs is a Bushy feeling that WMDs are in Ukraine and that is sufficient to nuke Ukraine and all other countries Medvedev feels are providing Ukraine with WMDs.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Yes, SECOND, I see the WORD "threat" in the headline, but NOT IN YOUR QUOTE. So, where is MEDVEDEV's threat that you threaten us with?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So where is the nuclear threat? Something is missing. I know you're evading the question, and if you don't answer it in your next post I'm going to show people why.
Or just go back to your home under the bridge, where you came from.
SECOND: Russia's Medvedev Threatens Ukraine With Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike. Signym, do you see the word "threat"?
Still no answer, but a lot of prevarication! Why is THAT, troll?Quote:
The very first para of your link: "Russia will launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike should the West provide Ukraine with nuclear weapons, Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, warned on Friday." Well, the answer is fucking simple: don't arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons! And the reason WHY SECOND refused to provide a full quote is bc he did what he likess to do: misquote/misinterpret/spin what others say to attempt to manipulate you.
Just as an aside, there is an informal distinction between sociopath and psychopath, altho it doesn't exist in the DSM. Psychopaths show a lot better impulse control and pre-planning. SECOND doesn't qualify as a psychopth bc he can't even keep his lies straight.
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SECOND, it's embarrassing watching you squirm.
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Quote:Do you see yourself as a Supreme Court Judge splitting hairs? Allowing Ukraine nuclear weapons, a step no Western state has publicly proposed, would mean "a missile with a nuclear charge coming to them," Medvedev, who served as president from 2008 to 2012, was quoted as saying. https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-744268
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, it's embarrassing watching you squirm.
This is more of the same empty-mindedness the Russian government has been spouting since its first nukes. If Russians want to kill themselves, it would be better for them to quietly fire bullets into their own heads rather than Medvedev's overly elaborate death-by-cop scenario, where the Russians get another nation to kill Russia.
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Former Russian officer and ardent nationalist Igor Girkin accused Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin of planning a coup against the current Russian leadership. Girkin openly accused Prigozhin of planning to conduct a coup amid the upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive and of continuously violating Russian censorship laws against the discreditation of the Russian army and military command.[19] Girkin warned of “mutiny” if Prigozhin is “allowed” to lead the Wagner Group. Girkin noted that Prigozhin ordered for the Wagner forces to withdraw to the Wagner bases deep inside of Russia on the eve of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. He also claimed that Wagner personnel had never taken oaths promising not to engage in combat against Russia or its military.[20] Prigozhin stated on May 27 that Wagner will decide later on if it will fight in Ukraine or in another country, which indicates that Prigozhin retains the ability to command his own army outside of the formal Russian military command structure.[21] Girkin also recently criticized the Russian military command for failing to address Prigozhin’s open and vulgar conflict with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD), even warning that Prigozhin will “devour” the Russian military officials who “bet” in his favor as he seeks to increase his political power.[22] A member of Girkin’s Angry Patriots Club claimed that the conflict between Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu and Prigozhin is developing into a conflict between the Russian military and Wagner forces but that Putin is not paying attention.[23] Girkin’s and his associates’ criticisms are largely consistent with Prigozhin’s continued prioritization of his own personal aims over those of the Russian Ministry of Defense and the broader operational situation near Bakhmut.[24] Prigozhin’s decision to withdraw his forces from Bakhmut and, apparently, from active combat on the eve of the Ukrainian counter-offensive is strategically questionable.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-27-2023
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From Simplicius the Thinker, vastly edited for brevity
Quote:
Latest Headlines Digest - The West's Tone Drastically Shifts
Sad Reality: The Ukraine War Is Now Going Russia’s Way
by Daniel Davis
Daniel L. Davis is a Senior Fellow for Defense Priorities and a former Lt. Col. in the U.S. Army who deployed into combat zones four times.
... As of November 2022, it was fair to say the Russian general staff had been outperformed by the Ukrainian general staff. Many pundits in the West concluded that Russian troops and leaders were deeply flawed and incapable of improving, believing that Russia would remain incapable tactically for the duration of the war...
Ukraine, on the other hand, chose to contest major cities and has now lost staggering numbers of troops – but they also lost the city itself in the end. The decision of the Ukrainian general staff to defend Bakhmut until the end may have grave implications for the rest of the war.
... I assess there is currently no likely path for Ukraine to achieve a military victory.
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad-reality-the-ukraine-war-is-now
-going-russias-way/
Two Weeks at the Front in Ukraine
Within weeks, the [Ukrainian] battalion faced annihilation: entire platoons had been wiped out in close-contact firefights, and some seventy men had been encircled and massacred. The dwindling survivors, one officer told me, “became useless because they were so tired.” In January, what was left of the battalion retreated from the village and established defensive positions in the tree lines and open farmland a mile to the west. “Wagner kicked our asses,” the officer said.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/two-weeks-at-the-front-i
n-ukraine
All in all, the article paints a grisly picture of Ukrainian trench life; one sargeant intoned how ‘everyone is sick’, and apparently coming down with even tuberculosis is common. Others contract ‘ravenous bacteria’, including one soldier who had open sores for months and was being ‘eaten alive’ by fleas. And though the author maunders through the heartfelt account in search of some anchoring pensée which could sublimate the horror he witnessed into a message of hope or heroism or …meaning, of any kind for the poor Ukrainians he’s desperate to uplift—he instead finishes on a nihilistic note, drawing the parallel of a cemetery sprawled with countless Ukrainian flags; even under duress, he could find nothing optimistic to buoy the spirits of the AFU
36 Hours in Bakhmut: One Unit’s Desperate Battle to Hold Back the Russians
WSJ archive copy
Russian troops were assaulting one of the apartment blocks that his group of 16 draftees, many of whom had been enlisted days earlier and given no training, had been assigned to defend...O
ver the 36 hours he spent in brutal house-to-house combat in the eastern Ukrainian city, 11 of the 16 men from Malkovskiy’s group of draftees were either killed or captured, according to surviving
https://archive.is/zPFVT
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Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
The RUSI [Royal United Services Instituter, a British military think-tank] report said that along the roughly 750 miles of the conflict's front line, Russia maintained a major electronic-warfare system roughly every 6 miles. These are set back about 4 miles from the front and focused mainly on neutralizing drones, the report said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-losing-10000-drones-month-russ
ia-electronic-warfare-rusi-report-2023-5
Russia Is Adapting Arms and Tactics Ahead of Ukraine Offensive
Bloomberg archive
https://archive.is/IGxwI
Russia's aging, obsolete tanks are actually doing some serious damage in Ukraine, report says
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Quote:You forgot to include Nuclear Weapons to Anyone Willing to Join Russia
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
From Simplicius the Thinker, vastly edited for brevity
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/latest-headlines-digest-the-wests
There's more...a LOT more... but I didn't want to take the time to condense all of it.
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, claimed that nations who side with Russia in its war against Ukraine will be given nuclear weapons.
During an interview with Russian propagandist, Pavel Zarubin, filmed on Thursday, but released on Sunday on Ukrainska Pravda, Lukashenko claimed that any nations who joined the "Union State" pact between Russia and Belarus would be provided with nuclear weapons, calling the prospect a "unique chance to unite."
"It's very simple. Countries should join the union of Belarus with Russia, and that's it: there will be nuclear weapons for everyone."
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-offers-nuclear-weapons-anyone-will
ing-join-russia-1803091
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Quote:I wouldn't have thought it would be THAT hard, THUGR.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG: Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?
What "it" are we giving another two weeks?
Two weeks until Ukraine launches it's offensive?
Two weeks until SECOND answers the question?
Please clarify.
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Defeat in its war against Ukraine would leave Russia “vindictive” and “brutal” and posing a threat to Nato countries, the outgoing head of the RAF said.
Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston told The Telegraph that Russia’s air force, surface navy and submarine force are a threat to Britain and Nato. He warned its threat could even get worse if the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, was ousted.
He said:
"When the Ukraine conflict is over and Ukraine has restored its borders, as it must, we will have a damaged, vindictive, and brutal Russia, whose means of harming us is through air attack, missile attack and subsurface attack."
Sir Mike is set to step down next month after four years at the top of the RAF.
He added:
"But it also demonstrates that this is more than about just one person. There is a whole structure and a hierarchy behind Putin.
So even if Putin was to disappear off the stage, there are countless others that could replace him that could be as equally as brutal and vicious to their own people and to neighbouring states."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/may/27/russia-ukraine-war-
live-us-and-eu-decry-moscows-plan-to-deploy-nuclear-weapons-in-belarus
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The UK Ministry of Defense (MoD) assessed that Russia is now demanding that Russian citizens make additional sacrifices to support the war effort.[56] The UK MoD reported that Russian state media and business groups have petitioned the Russian Ministry of Economy to authorize a six-day work week for workers without offering additional pay in order to satisfy the demands of the wartime industrial complex. The UK MoD added that Kremlin propagandist Margarita Simonyan noted that citizens should work for two extra hours in munitions factories after their daytime jobs.[57]
Russian occupation officials continue to forcibly deport Ukrainian children to Russia under the guise of summer camp programs. Ukrainian Luhansk Oblast Military Administration Head Artem Lusohor reported that Russian occupation authorities announced the creation of a vacation summer camp in Russia for Ukrainian children from Russian-occupied Shchastia Raion in Luhansk Oblast.[58] ISW has previously reported on Russian occupation authorities using children’s camps as a guise to forcibly deport Ukrainian children to Russia.[59]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-may-28-2023
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Russian Reveille
Twenty-three years ago, respected Russian-American journalist Masha Gessen penned an op-ed in the New York Times describing the militarization of Russian life. She described rules and regulations to funnel boys into the service, the boosting of military spending by 50 percent, and military detachments “adopting” teen orphan boys and the sons of single-mother households.
In recent years, especially as his regime faces questions over the military’s relatively poor performance in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin has explicitly injected patriotism and militarism into his country’s schools, the Economist reported. These efforts bolster the war effort in Ukraine today, prepare the next generation for war tomorrow, and foster a climate where questioning the war is forbidden.
“Schools have been ordered to conduct ‘patriotic’ classes parroting the Kremlin line on the war, and teachers who refuse have been fired,” wrote the Washington Post. “Textbooks are being purged of almost all references to Ukraine and its capital, Kyiv.”
Putin also recently reinstated military training and exercises in schools, Newsweek added. The city of St. Petersburg was compelled to buy “assault rifles and dummy grenades” for basic military training courses. A Moscow Times photo essay showed young students putting on gas masks, aiming pistols and rifles, climbing ropes, and caring for a colleague’s ankle.
Inculcating martial principles into generations of Russian youth has changed the country’s culture, argued Global Voices, describing the appearance of a “new archetype” of Russian citizen: “Homo militaris”. Told all their lives that Russia faces relentless enemies from the West and elsewhere, these Russians accept Putin’s propaganda and root for their heroes in their nation’s so-called “special military operation” in Ukraine.
But this segment of Russian society can’t convince skeptics that Putin’s plans are going swimmingly. The Russian army has been underperforming, and the Ukrainians have yet to even launch their expected spring counteroffensive. According to Reuters, Putin’s ally Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the private mercenary Wagner Group, recently warned of revolution if Russian elites didn’t start taking the war seriously. He recently pulled out the militia fighters from Bakhmut and no one is quite sure why.
Meanwhile, Homo militaris certainly doesn’t appear to be volunteering to join the fight. As Al Jazeera reported, the Russian army needs more soldiers and conscripts – but draft dodging is a major problem despite the harsh punishments meted out to those who refuse to serve. Russian recruiters have consistently failed to hit their targets since the war began in February 2022, noted Worldcrunch.
More peace seems easier in comparison.
https://www.dailychatter.com/2023/05/29/russian-reveille/
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“Schools have been ordered to conduct ‘patriotic’ classes parroting the Kremlin line on the war, and teachers who refuse have been fired,” wrote the Washington Post. “Textbooks are being purged of almost all references to Ukraine and its capital, Kyiv.”
Sounds better than Drag Queen Story Hour.
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SITREP 5/29/23: Kiev Rocked as New Satellite Photos Prove Patriot Destruction
Major things are in motion.
The night before last Russia launched a massive drone attack on all regions of Ukraine.
It's a good thing that Russia is running out of missiles!
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It has been called by at least one source as the single largest drone attack of the entire SMO thus far, causing many people to speculate that Russia must now be producing Geran-2 drones at exponential rates as they have been using them at tremendous volumes of late. Every region has been hit and something very anomalous occurred in the capital city of Kiev.
Every region has been hit and something very anomalous occurred in the capital city of Kiev.
A huge explosion shook homes in the region, that at least one source says registered as a magnitude 3.4 on the Richter scale, and some experts estimated to be equivalent to at least a 100 ton ammo explosion.
MORE AT https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-52923-kiev-rocked-as-new-sa
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Good. Fuck Ukraine.
Sad Reality: The Ukraine War Is Now Going Russia’s Way
Recent evidence indicates the Russian side has made tactical and operational improvements that are having an impact on the ground in Ukraine.
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/sad-reality-the-ukraine-war-is-now
-going-russias-way/
Not sad. But it's reality.
REAL Americans do not support Ukraine.
The NeoCons and the Child Raping Democrats support Ukraine.
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Quote:Good thing there are millions of civilians for Russia to target but Ukrainians are not surrendering, possibly because they remember Russians slaughtering them by the millions the previous time Russia controlled Ukraine. Meanwhile, Biden is frightened by Russia:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's a good thing that Russia is running out of missiles!
Biden Is More Fearful Than the Ukrainians Are
The U.S. president has promised Ukraine “whatever it takes, as long as it takes.” But out of anxiety about escalation, Washington is making decisions that could prolong the war.
By Kori Schake
“The language of escalation is the language of excuse.” That’s how Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, dismisses anxiety that assistance to Ukraine could provoke Russia to either expand the war to NATO countries or cross the nuclear threshold. The country most concerned about Russia expanding its aggression beyond Ukraine is the country least likely to be the victim of it: the United States.
The Biden administration has been unequivocal in its policy declarations. The president has said, repeatedly and in public, that the U.S. will provide Ukraine “whatever it takes, as long as it takes.” The president wants the political benefits of heroically assisting the good of Ukraine against the evil of Russia, but his administration’s policy is much more hesitant than its bold declarations would suggest.
I spoke to Ukrainians both in and outside of government during a recent trip to Kyiv with the Renew Democracy Initiative. Those I met were keenly aware that Ukraine relies on U.S. weapons, U.S. financial assistance, and U.S. leadership to pull together international support, and they expressed gratitude for all that the United States is doing. Most know very well that Ukraine would have lost the war without the U.S. rallying support to keep its economy from collapsing, arm its soldiers, and provide essential intelligence to protect its leaders and blunt Russian attacks. Ukrainian government officials are careful to speak only of the United States as a whole, without singling out the Biden administration or delving into U.S. domestic politics.
Yet Ukraine’s foreign and defense ministers acknowledged that “the first answer the U.S. gives to any request is no.” That was America’s answer across the past three presidential administrations: no to javelin missiles, no to stinger missiles, no to NATO membership, no to F-16s, no to weapons that can reach Russian territory, no to tanks, no to Patriot air defenses, no to HIMARs, no to ATACMs, and—until this week—again no to F-16s, even if they aren’t U.S. F-16s.
The Biden administration has made three arguments against Ukrainian requests. The first and most condescending was, to quote the president, that “Ukraine doesn’t need F-16s now.” This came at a time when Russia’s strategy had shifted to long-range missile strikes on civilian populations and infrastructure that air dominance could better resist. Kyiv may now be well protected, but Kharkiv and other major cities continue to be at greater risk.
The Pentagon has further insisted that mastering the desired weapons systems would be prohibitively difficult and time-consuming. That argument weakened when Ukrainians, on a wartime footing, blew through the training curricula in a fraction of the time it took to train U.S. soldiers who had been in regular rotations on other systems. The Ukrainians have successfully sustained battlefield operability of an extensive array of internationally donated weapons systems.
The administration does make one argument against Ukrainian requests that should carry greater weight. Despite the president’s claims of unlimited assistance for as long as it takes, U.S. assistance isn’t endless, and Ukraine is asking for expensive items that are often in short supply. For example, having provided Ukraine with 20 HIMARs, the U.S. has only 410 remaining and 220 M270 MLRS (a tracked variant). That number may seem large, but not when you consider the intensity of fighting and th
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Quote:When not hitting civilians, Russia is also targeting nuclear reactors:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SITREP 5/29/23: Kiev Rocked as New Satellite Photos Prove Patriot Destruction
Major things are in motion.
The night before last Russia launched a massive drone attack on all regions of Ukraine.
It's a good thing that Russia is running out of missiles!
Staff at Ukraine's experimental nuclear site pick up pieces from Russian strikes
When the Associated Press visited this month, debris had been heaped in piles, and rocket parts sat near craters up to 2.5 meters (8 feet) deep. Staff say the site was struck some 100 times with rockets and bombs during the first months of the war, and attack remains a constant threat. Kharkiv, near the war's front line and the Russian border, is shelled almost daily from the neighboring Belgorod region of Russia.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/staff-at-ukraine-s-experimental-n
uclear-site-pick-up-pieces-from-russian-strikes/ar-AA1bS2pR
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I guess, when you can't hit legitimate military targets, you go after civilians. Isn't that right, Zelenskiy?
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Major Drone Attack On Moscow Damages Several Apartment Buildings
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-drone-attack-damages-seve
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Quote:Indeed. If MSN ever publishes the truth, it's by accident. That's why I don't even bother reading it.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
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I had a funny thought this AM while I was waking up:
If you want to see how much Americans support Ukraine, try selling shares of it on Amazon. Yanno "Buy a share of Ukraine's war effort for $150" (which is so far the per-person cost of our aid to Ukraine).
In that context people would ask themselves... "I spend $150 and what do I get for it, compared to, say, other things I could spend $150 on Amazon?"
Some people would probably answer..."Well, I help preserve democracy in Europe" or "I help fight Russia", and they would plunk down $. But some (many?) would think ..."Well, nothing".
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Quote:Nobody had a fundraiser for H-bombs, but the US spent more than $10 trillion on nukes and it is all thanks to Russia endlessly threatening to nuke the US. It is time to pay Russia back by way of Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I had a funny thought this AM while I was waking up:
If you want to see how much Americans support Ukraine, try selling shares of it on Amazon. Yanno "Buy a share of Ukraine's war effort for $150" (which is so far the per-person cost of our aid to Ukraine).
In that context people would ask themselves... "I spend $150 and what do I get for it, compared to, say, other things I could spend $150 on Amazon?"
Some people would probably answer..."Well, I help preserve democracy in Europe" or "I help fight Russia", and they would plunk down $. But some (many?) would think ..."Well, nothing".
https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+threaten+to+nuke+US
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+spent+on+nuclear+weapons
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:WHAT are we waiting for, THUGR? Something is missing! This time you got a deadline but not an event.
Originally posted by THG:
Let's give it another two weeks, shall we?
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Quote:Yeah, AFTER we flattened two cities with nuclear bombs.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Nobody had a fundraiser for H-bombs, but the US spent more than $10 trillion on nukes and it is all thanks to Russia endlessly threatening to nuke the US. It is time to pay Russia back by way of Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I had a funny thought this AM while I was waking up:
If you want to see how much Americans support Ukraine, try selling shares of it on Amazon. Yanno "Buy a share of Ukraine's war effort for $150" (which is so far the per-person cost of our aid to Ukraine).
In that context people would ask themselves... "I spend $150 and what do I get for it, compared to, say, other things I could spend $150 on Amazon?"
Some people would probably answer..."Well, I help preserve democracy in Europe" or "I help fight Russia", and they would plunk down $. But some (many?) would think ..."Well, nothing".
https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+threaten+to+nuke+US
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+spent+on+nuclear+weapons
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Yanno, none of the conventional
So we used Hiroshima and Nagasaki as examples of what we prepared to do to Russians, and the reason why we used two bombs was to make clear to the Russians that we had more than one
IMHO that was just one of our MANY war crimes, and the start of the nuclear arms race.
I don't post this for you SECOND, bc you're just a sociopath looking for a target to hate. I'm just correcting your revisionist history for the lurkers here.
The elusive horror of Hiroshima
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/photography/2020/08/the-elusive-h
orror-of-hiroshima
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Quote:How many cities did the US fire bomb? Hundreds more than Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but how many articles claim those hundreds of other cities were war crimes? The point is that Russian politicians officially threatened to nuke the US during ten thousand different announcements and those threats have cost the US at least ten trillion dollars. Now is the time for Ukraine to make Russia pay for scaring Republican voters with Russian nukes.
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Yeah, AFTER we flattened two cities with nuclear bombs.
Yanno, none of the conventionalexplanationsexcuses for our first use of nukes make sense to me. Japan was ready to surrender. It didn't "shorten the war". The only explanation that matches the magnitude of our war crime was basically a warning shot across Russia's bow, since they were storming across Siberia and China, ready to take Japan.
So we used Hiroshima and Nagasaki as examples of what we prepared to do to Russians, and the reason why we used two bombs was to make clear to the Russians that we had more than one
IMHO that was just one of our MANY war crimes, and the start of the nuclear arms race.
I don't post this for you SECOND, bc you're just a sociopath looking for a target to hate. I'm just correcting your revisionist history for the lurkers here.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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If fire bombing is such a Big Deal, why do you keep harping on nukes? So shut up about nukes, already!
Once again, you mess up your own argument. Another epic fail from a sociopath who can't even keep his lines of hate straight.
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Quote:Signym, Russian politicians have made ten thousand official announcements threatening to destroy the US. Perhaps those politicians were thinking it is all a friendly joke, but that joke cost the US ten trillion dollars to build a system of Mutually Assured Destruction. The US doesn't have a sense of humor. A famous example was Khrushchev saying "We Will Bury You." Ha-ha, funny man, but the US did not understand the intended message was that the USSR would outlast and out-perform the US. It looked just like another death threat from the lips of a Russian politician to the ears of US Republican voters.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If fire bombing is such a Big Deal, why do you keep harping on nukes? So shut up about nukes, already!
Once again, you mess up your own argument. Another epic fail from a sociopath who can't even keep his lines of hate straight.
Ukraine knows for sure that Russia delivers death by directly killing millions of Ukrainians during Holodomor. Maybe the US did not misinterpret Khrushchev's "We Will Bury You."
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Seriously dood, stop harping about Russian nukes. They're not the ones who started this whole shit show, they're not the ones who put nukes on our borders, and they're not the ones who backed out of every agreement. Whatever happens, we're just reaping what we sowed.
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Quote:During the Holodormor, the Russians killed four million Ukrainians. Ukrainians still remember as does the US State Department and Defense Department. According to the Russians, Holodormor never happened, which makes the Russians seem even more unworthy to die happy than if they admitted to what happened.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seriously dood, stop harping about Russian nukes. They're not the ones who started this whole shit show, they're not the ones who put nukes on our borders, and they're not the ones who backed out of every agreement. Whatever happens, we're just reaping what we sowed.
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The true scale of Russian combat losses
Prigozhin's latest statements confirmed the actual scale of Russian combat losses in Ukraine.
Analysis of open sources confirms this as well. Biden announced in Hiroshima on May 21 that Russia lost 100,000 troops in the battle for Bakhmut. On May 24, Prigozhin confirmed the truth of Biden's words and, for the first time, named specific information about losses during the operations in Bakhmut: 10,000 former prisoners and 10,000 Wagner volunteer mercenaries. There were 20,000 Wagnerite KIA, plus the losses of Russian troops at Bakhmut in May-August 2022 until the Wagner took over. Casualties also include the wounded, and Russian sources talk about the ratio of injured and concussed to dead as 1:4 or 1:5. This adds up to about the same numbers as given by the Americans.
More at https://english.nv.ua/opinion/the-true-scale-of-russian-combat-losses-
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SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN.
Troll.
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Quote:The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia? (Russia has always been incompetent at warfare but has ever so slowly achieved conquests because nations are not pushing back with even one-tenth of their might against Russia.) Previously, Russia was stopped when the Soviet Union slowly collapsed. Then Russia was forced to withdraw from places it had invaded: Afghanistan, Eastern Europe, and the Baltic States. But now Russia is back to its old ways of invasion while the US, UK, and the EU are back to their old ways of dithering over what to do about it.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN.
Troll.
The Biden administration showed a "continued reluctance" to provide long-range precision weapons which was "the result of its reluctance or inability to clearly define the strategic outcome it seeks and its unwillingness to say it wants Ukraine to win."
"This has led to slow, incremental decision-making that only helps the Russians because the Kremlin knows that the (Biden) administration will continue to self-deter out of concern over possible Russian nuclear escalation."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-biden-atacms-missile-1803298
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How Putin’s taste for jail jargon changed Russia
Growing up in St Petersburg, Russia’s leader was fascinated with prison songs and sambo, a form of wrestling.
When Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner mercenary company, bristled at Russia’s top brass, he did not mince his words.
“Scum”, “damn it” and “go to hell” were among the most quotable phrases from the video rant filled with homophobic slurs and prison slang that was released on Prigozhin’s Telegram channel on May 5.
The diatribe does not seem surprising given his background. In 1981, he was convicted of robbery and assault and served nine years in Soviet jails.
His knowledge of “fenya”, as jail jargon is known, proved important to the Kremlin’s faltering war effort in Ukraine last year when he toured dozens of Russian prisons to enlist tens of thousands of inmates.
But the problem with Prigozhin’s profanities – as well as the corrupting influence of fenya and the overtly romanticised lifestyle of career criminals on Russia’s politics, culture and daily life – lies much deeper.
It was Prigozhin’s boss, Russian President Vladimir Putin, who started peppering his speech with salty phrases and fenya idioms since the dawn of his rule 23 years ago.
Long before former US President Donald Trump built his political career on jingoistic, misogynistic and intolerant parlance, Putin did something similar in Russia – with much broader consequences.
“We’ll soak ’em in the outhouse,” Putin, a newly appointed prime minister in President Boris Yeltsin’s government, said in 1999 about the Russian bombing of Grozny, the capital of the then de facto separatist Chechnya region.
‘I Want Someone Like Putin’
Soviet-era dissident Vladimir Bukovsky, who spent years in gulags, pointed out that the phrase referred to the killing of snitches by drowning them in feces in giant prison outhouses.
But average Russians unfamiliar with fenya’s intricacies liked Putin’s phrase anyway.
Many more colourful, nearly obscene quotes, along with the scrupulously sculpted image of a macho man, paved the way to Putin’s first presidency in 2000.
Women were among his earliest supporters.
“‘Soak ’em in the outhouse’ was more about [Putin] becoming sexually attractive to the women whose men are drunks and who think that they need a strong hand to simply survive,” Nana Grinstein, a playwright whose family fled Russia after the all-out war began in Ukraine last year, told Al Jazeera.
She used an old Russian trope of comparing women to “necks” that support their men, the “heads” of families, and recalled “I Want Someone Like Putin”, a 2003 pop hit that describes a woman who kicks out her substance-abusing lover because she craves someone like the president.
“When these ‘necks’ turned towards Putin, then machismo worked both ways. For men, he became an example because ‘someone like Putin’ is wanted in the most open sexual way,” Grinstein said.
Other popular ‘Putinisms’
Throughout his years in office, Putin became known for language that reinforced his strongman image just as much as the photographs of him bare-chested, hunting, fishing, riding horses and doing judo did.
“He turned out to be a mighty man, raped 10 women. We all envy him,” Putin said in 2006 after Israeli President Moshe Katsav was accused of raping his female employees.
“They wore contraceptives [condoms],” Putin said in 2011 in response to opposition rallies whose participants wore white bands.
“No matter how one acts during the wedding night, the result has to be the same,” he said in 2013 about the European Union’s political consolidation.
“We, as martyrs, will go to paradise, and they will simply croak,” he said in 2018 about the possibility of a global nuclear war.
“Whether you like it or not – be patient, my beauty,” he said in 2022 about Ukraine’s reluctance to stick to the Minsk accords, a peace settlement in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.
‘We’re thieves-humanists’
Some people who knew Putin as a teenager growing up in Leningrad, now St Peter
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN.
Troll.
SECOND: The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia?
Why should we?
You haven't managed to give one convincing reason.
What you do is post a "reason", and when you get your ass handed to you, you change the specific "reason" and then circle back to it a few posts down the line.
Example: Russia killed 62 million of its people.
I have looked at quite a few historians' online estimates of "deaths under Joseph Stalin" and NONE of them support that figure. Aside from which, that number is implausible bc it would have accounted for at least half of the extant Russian population. Don't you think that would have been demographically noticeable??
Example: Russia is an imperial power threatening USA, UK, and the core nations of the EU (France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc)
Does Russia constitute a threat to the USA, UK, and the original core NATO countries?
NO, it doesn't. Russia has never invaded USA, Canada, UK, France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, the lowlands, etc, and Germany only defensively (WWII).
But the UK and France HAVE invaded Russia, and the USA and UK have a robust history of attempting to destroy Russia.
More importantly, it wasn't Russia that crept up to NATOs borders, it is the other way aaroud, despite clear promises from the west not to do so. Russia is simply looking to remove the nuclear and military threat that was aggressively moved up to its border.
Example: Russia threatens the USA with nukes all the time.
NO. Every step that Russia has taken has been a defensive response to USA attempted nuclear domination. The USSR/Russia has shown a willingness to sign AND ABIDE BY whatever nuclear treaties the USA was willing to negotiate. The USA, OTOH, has backed out of, or never ratified, almost every bilateral treaty.
Because of our hitory of not abiding by treaties (eg nuclear arms), breaking promises *NATO) and agreements (Minsk II), breaking contracts (SWIFT, gas payments), stealng money, and terrorist acts (Nordstream) Russia has decided, with good reason, that the USA and the collective west is NOT AGREEMENT CAPABLE.
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You HAVE posted multiple "reasons" that cancel each other out or are demonstrably wrong.
So far, the only thing you've proven is that nobody should listen to you, bc you post walls of lies.
Troll
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Quote:Think back to WWII. Japan invaded China in 1937 but not one Republican would vote for war with Japan. Germany invaded all of Europe in 1939 but not one Republican in Congress would vote for war with Germany. By 1942, Republicans even claimed that FDR had conspired to get the US into a war with Japan and Germany. The conspiracy theory was that FDR had tricked the USA into a War that was none of the USA's concern. Americans who vote for Republicans have always found reasons to not help when other countries are invaded and therefore it is no surprise when Americans who find Trump adequate would continue the long-standing Republican tradition of not helping when Russia invaded Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN.
Troll.
SECOND: The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia?
Why should we?
You haven't managed to give one convincing reason. You HAVE posted multiple "reasons" that cancel each other out or are demonstrably wrong.
So far, the only thing you've proven is that nobody should listen to you, bc you post walls of lies.
Troll
Americans have never stopped believing that President Roosevelt let Pearl Harbor happen in order to draw the U.S. into World War II
https://www.npr.org/2016/12/06/504449867/no-fdr-did-not-know-the-japan
ese-were-going-to-bomb-pearl-harbor
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND CHANGES TOPIC...AGAIN.
Troll.
SECOND: The topic is always the same: why do the US, UK, and the EU not stop Russia?
SIGNY: Why should we?
You haven't managed to give one convincing reason. You HAVE posted multiple "reasons" that cancel each other out or are demonstrably wrong.
So far, the only thing you've proven is that nobody should listen to you, bc you post walls of lies.
Troll
SECOND: Think back to WWII. Japan invaded China in 1937 but not one Republican would vote for war with Japan. Germany invaded all of Europe in 1939 but not one Republican in Congress would vote for war with Germany. By 1942, Republicans even claimed that FDR had conspired to get the US into a war with Japan and Germany. The conspiracy theory was that FDR had tricked the USA into a War that was none of the USA's concern. Americans who vote for Republicans have always found reasons to not help when other countries are invaded and therefore it is no surprise when Americans who find Trump adequate would continue the long-standing Republican tradition of not helping when Russia invaded Ukraine.
See my previous edits
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WTF does today have to do with WWII?? All you'retrying to do is recruit that gut feeling that WWII was a "JUST WAR!" and that Republicans would have kept us from fighting a "JUST WAR!"
First of all, if you look a the CAUSES of WWII, you'll see that:
The USA's embargo of Japan, and Japan's need for oil, led them to attack the USA in an attempt to break our stranglehold. So, in a way, we were part of the problem.
The WWI reparations payments that Germany owed was unspportable and led to economic collapse (people politely starving in their homes), hyperinflation, political chaos, and eventually nazism. Furthermore, whatever justice there was in fighting WWII in Europe, it was the SOVIETS that won. If you want to credit anyone, give credit where it's due: Russia. Our claims to being Europe's savior are 80% stolen valor.
So, what's your excuse for trying to tie today's situation to WWII? Yanno, other than trying to elicit a knee-jerk reaction?
The problem today, SECOND, IS US. If we're going to fix the problem, we have to start with us.
Troll
Please see the edits in my previous post.
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Quote:There have always been people like you, Signym, even in the 1930's . If the movie Lincoln (2012) can be believed, there were Northerners just like you that believed there should not have been a Civil War and that the fighting would end when Lincoln, not the Confederates, stopped being a warmonger. There are always people who find it inconceivable that Confederates need killing for what they have done, and that Nazis must die for what they did, and that Russians must die screaming for murdering Ukrainians by the millions. Some people are either too superior for war or too confused to make a correct decision about which side should win.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So now you'retrying to recruit that gut feeling that WWII was a "JUST WAR!" and that Republicans would have kept us from fighting a "JUST WAR!"
First of all, if you look a the CAUSES of WWII, you'll see that:
The USA's embargo of Japan, and Japan's need for oil, led them to attack the USA in an attempt to break our stranglehold. So, in a way, we were part of the problem.
The WWI reparations payments that Germany owed was unspportable and led to economic collapse (people politely starving in their homes), hyperinflation, political chaos, and eventually nazism. Furthermore, whatever justice there was in fighting WWII in Europe, it was the SOVIETS that won. Our claims to being Europe's savior are 80% stolen valor.
So, what's your excuse for trying to tie today's situation to WWII? Yanno, other than trying to elicit a knee-jerk reaction?
The problem today, SECOND, IS US. If we're going to fix it, we have to start with us.
Please see the edits in my previous post.
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SECOND, so now you're going all the way back to the CIVIL WAR to find an excuse for your warmongering?
Yanno, I could use Nazi Germany as an example and point out that there were a lot of Nazis there just like you. You've even got that whole "inferior race/people" thing going. The only thing missing is your swastika.
Jeez, what a troll.
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Because, when Kiev can't attack military targets, it targets civilians. They've been targeting civilians since 2014.
Quote:
Russia Evacuates Children From Border Villages As Ukrainian Shelling Escalates
Wednesday, May 31, 2023 - 11:40 AM
In what's now becoming an alarming pattern of cross-border escalation, multiple civilians were injured in Russia's Belgorod region, just kilometers from Ukraine, due to large-scale shelling on Wednesday, presumably from Ukrainian forces.
Local governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said at least four people had been injured. He described that situation in the border town of Shebekino has been "deteriorating" due to the "massive strike" from Ukrainian forces.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-evacuates-children-borde
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Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.
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Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.
I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel.
So prove it, stupid troll.
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SECOND, so now you're going all the way back to the CIVIL WAR to find an excuse for your warmongering?
Yanno, I could use Nazi Germany as an example and point out that there were a lot of Nazis there just like you. You've even got that whole "inferior race/people" thing going. The only thing missing is your swastika.
Jeez, what a troll.
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Signym is also spreading Russian propaganda on another thread at http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64016&mid=11747
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Quote:Signym, comparing Germany to Russia shows that Russia is a grossly inferior country in the same way North Korea is inferior to South Korea. The funny thing is that North Korea was created by Russia as a project to show the superiority of the Russian way of life as it spreads around the world.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So I was thinking about why Germans put up with this shit. Their nation is occupoed by USA forces, their government doesn't get to make decisions, their media is controlled by the CIA, they've been forced to cross "red line" after red line supporting Ukraine (remember when they vowed to send only defensive equipment and shipped 5,000 helmets? HOW CUTE!). And - worse - their pipelines were blown u, and instead of demanding a full investigation, Chancellor Scholz meekly bowed his head to Bidens* ridiculous plan to shift blame, and Die Welt spread the ridiculous story that it was six folks and a boat.
NO MORE GAS HEATERS!
And, if you save up your meat ration you can look forward to having a big chicken-burger once every two weeks.
Why aren't there protests? Why isn't there a change of government?
I decided that Germany is just a long-term experiment in collective, generational guilt. There are probably all of five Germans who even remember WWII, and yet Germans are supposed to feel endless guilt far into the mists of time for something their grandparents did. (And Jews, with their endless victim complex, are just the one to make them pay... and pay.... and pay! If Germany owes reparations to anyone it's Russians. And yet Germans are still paying Jews! https://apnews.com/article/holocaust-survivor-compensation-fund-german
y-0d35aa1cba7756d1b9b6008e9d7841b7)
So now Germans feel guilty just for breathing.
Kinda sounds like the whole "white guilt" that's being foisted on white Americans.
Yanno, if you're prejudiced ... if you cut someonw out of a hiring list, or didn't give them a loan or rent an apartment JUST BECAUSE of their color, you should feel guilty for that. But for sure, don't feel guilty for something you didn't do.
How would a Russian handle that comparative failure to thrive? By making up lies about Germany and bragging falsely about Russia.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/Russia/Econo
my
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/germany?sc=XE15
https://www.worlddata.info/country-comparison.php?country1=DEU&cou
ntry2=RUS
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Quote:The Kremlin’s communication problems are triggering awkward moments and fiery clashes between Russian state television’s biggest stars.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, so now you're going all the way back to the CIVIL WAR to find an excuse for your warmongering?
Yanno, I could use Nazi Germany as an example and point out that there were a lot of Nazis there just like you. You've even got that whole "inferior race/people" thing going. The only thing missing is your swastika.
Jeez, what a troll.
The Monday broadcast, too, featured a rare moment of brutal honesty on Russian state television, with one panelist offering up a particularly grim prophecy about Putin’s end game.
“What would victory look like? We can see it by looking at Bakhmut, the city where 70,000 people used to live, with children and kindergartens. It was simply wiped off the face of the earth. Everyone who could escape from there did just that,” former state Duma deputy Boris Nadezhdin said, appearing exasperated.
“If victory means conquering ruins without the people, I don’t know who needs this kind of victory... In some Russian cities, they are running out of men,” he added. “The sooner this horror comes to an end, the better it will be for Ukrainians and Russians alike.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20230531123505/https://www.thedailybeast.c
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Signym, a typical exchange on Russian TV: “During the last year and two months since the start of the special operation, I’ve traveled dozens of times throughout the country... Every time I am asked: ‘Why is it taking so long, why isn’t it more decisive? To put it harshly, why aren’t we destroying them like rats?,” host Andrey Norkin said.
It did not take very long for that comment to blow up in Norkin’s face.
“You know, when you say that your audience, your viewers are asking you why we aren't being more harsh, why aren’t we destroying all of them like rats, I would answer them with a question,” political analyst Viktor Olevich said, addressing the host. ‘“Are you ready for all of your children to die, to be pulverized in the trenches? Do you want for all of them to end up there?’”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Signym, in your youth you must have absorbed too much Soviet propaganda about The Great Patriotic War. For awhile after the fall of the USSR that machine was left to rust in the rain but Putin got that old Soviet machinery running again to produce All New Propaganda:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The WWI reparations payments that Germany owed was unspportable and led to economic collapse (people politely starving in their homes), hyperinflation, political chaos, and eventually nazism. Furthermore, whatever justice there was in fighting WWII in Europe, it was the SOVIETS that won. If you want to credit anyone, give credit where it's due: Russia. Our claims to being Europe's savior are 80% stolen valor.
So, what's your excuse for trying to tie today's situation to WWII? Yanno, other than trying to elicit a knee-jerk reaction?
The problem today, SECOND, IS US. If we're going to fix the problem, we have to start with us.
Troll
Please see the edits in my previous post.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
A Day Inside Putin’s Surreal Television Empire
How the nonstop blare of Russian state media fuels the war effort and blurs reality.
May 28, 2023, 7:00 AM
By Anastasia Edel
If there’s one part of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s autocratic toolkit that has lived up to its prewar hype, it is the Kremlin’s propaganda machine. Propaganda is the proverbial carrot in the ocean of sticks that is modern Russia, responsible for co-opting the public into the state’s war agenda. Every day, 82 million Russians tune into a vast web of state-controlled network and cable television channels that feeds them a uniform vision of the world: a hostile, scary place, in which Russia wages a righteous battle against the forces of evil.
Putin didn’t invent propaganda. As a citizen of the now-defunct Soviet Union, I was born into a land of make-believe created for me and millions of other Soviets by the propaganda bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. According to our television sets, my fellow citizens and I lived in the most advanced, peace-loving, and just country in the world, constantly fending off attacks at the hands of imperialist forces. Listening to songs that cried out against the impending nuclear war, or watching broadcasts of U.S. police forces dispersing peace demonstrations with tear gas, I wondered why Americans were so bent on destroying our way of life.
The collapse of the totalitarian state removed these propaganda blinders and revealed the world it had conjured for what it was: a fantasy. But the Soviet-era mechanisms of manipulation—and the Russians’ propensity to fall for it—are even stronger today. In survey after survey, public support for Putin and his war on Ukraine remains high, thanks in part to the consensus manufactured by pro-Kremlin television programming.
Last month, I put on these blinders again and tuned in to experience what an average Russian might consume in just one day. The results were disturbing.
Television, not the internet, remains the dominant news medium in Russia. The average Russian consumes around four hours daily. In absolute terms, these numbers are not unique: Americans watch more. What is unique, even from Soviet times, is that every channel and every program, from news broadcasts to music competitions, transmit the Kremlin’s narrative, 24 hours per day, seven days a week.
The day’s agenda is set by the 5 a.m. newscast. On a Friday morning in April, the main story on Channel One, the Russian Federation’s oldest and most influential channel, is “battling Ukrainian Nazis” near Bakhmut. This is followed by reports on French President Emmanuel Macron’s visit to China; Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s visit to Turkey; and the Orthodox holiday of Annunciation. This lineup is repeated, with minor variations, every 30 minutes during the three-hour morning show, with news from th
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Originally posted by THG:Poor comrade signym. She is completely reduced to lying. I wonder when she will return to her handler is Russia. Maybe she never came here. That's my bet. She never even came to the states.
I noticed that when SECOND gets his ass thoroughly handed to him, you step in with pure libel.
So prove it, stupid troll.
What you don't understand comrade is that your years of posting here are proof of your identity.
As for you winning out in any discussion between you and SECOND, if it ever happens, I'll acknowledge it. So far your posted lies, your responses to what SECOND posts, clearly shows your identity to be that of an anti-American Russian troll.
You never seem to understand that your posts reveal you. I doubt you ever will. Not to worry though, you are not the only one who suffers this.
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