Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Huh? ISW can't assess wha kind of system would be effective against drones, helicopters and fixed-wing air support? Or is it that they can't figure out what would work against a barrage of drones, cruise missiles and hypersonic missiles?
Originally posted by second:
Russian sources provided explanations for claimed Russian successes during the June 8 attacks, praising Russian forces’ effective use of electronic warfare (EW) systems, air support, and landmines against Ukrainian forces. Multiple Russian sources reported that Russian EW severely interfered with Ukrainian command and control signals, GPS-enabled devices, UAV controls.[12] Russian sources reported that Ukrainian forces had insufficient air defense in the Orikhiv sector, that Russian forces operated with an “unprecedented” amount of rotary wing air support, and that Russian aviation was able to return to a high level of activity after not actively engaging in combat operations since the beginning of the full-scale invasion in 2022.[13] Continuous Russian missile and drone attacks against Kyiv and critical Ukrainian infrastructure may have fixed Ukraine’s more advanced air defense systems away from the frontline, although ISW cannot assess which systems would be effective against the kinds of air support missions Russian aircraft were flying.
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ISW’s previous assessments that Russian air and missile attacks were not setting conditions to defend against the Ukrainian counter-offensive may thus have been inaccurate.
Then they were STUPID. EVERYONE could see- and was commenting on- the fact that Russia had ramped up its targeting of rail lines, ammo depots, fuel depots, and air defense insallations for the past 3 weeks at least, with "massive" (that seems to be the word most often used recently) drone, missile and bombs strikes. Even Military Summary Channel, which has a definite bent towards Ukraine.
Quote:echelon defense. Wasn't gonna post about it bc it would have taken too much time to explain. The other thing that Russians do is create "crumple zones" ... they take areas of open field which Ukrainian army has to re-take, Once the Ukrainian army is in a relatively undefendable position, Russian troops fall back and Russian artillery, drones etc open up.
Russian sources also praised at length their claimed defensive success using layered field fortifications and landmines, with Major General Popov stating that Russian minefields played a “very important role” in defeating the initial Ukrainian advance in the early hours of June 8.[14] CNN additionally reported that an anonymous US official said that Russian landmines degraded Ukrainian armored vehicles.[15]
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Russian forces appear to have executed their formal tactical defensive doctrine in response to the Ukrainian attacks southwest of Orikhiv. Russian doctrine for a defending motorized rifle battalion calls for a first echelon of troops to repel or slow attacking forces with minefields, fortifications, and strongpoints, with a second echelon of forces counterattacking against an enemy breakthrough.[16] Russian forces apparently operated in this fashion in this sector – Ukrainian forces penetrated the initial defensive lines; Russian forces pulled back to a second line of fortifications; and Russian reserves subsequently counterattacked to retake the initial line of defenses.[17] This maneuver is a regular feature of defensive operations and has been executed by both Ukrainian and Russian forces throughout the war. Early control of terrain changes day to day should thus not be misconstrued as the overall result of a wider attack.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-8-2023
There are several ways to interpret that last statement, but in the context of Ukrainian attacker/Russian defender, I would say that it means that even if Ukrainian troops advance a few or even a few tens of kilometers, that doesn't mean they will be victor
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Quote:You have room in there for one idea, and you've worn it out.
Originally posted by THG:
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Time to get a new idea.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You have room in there for one idea, and you've worn it out.
Originally posted by THG:
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Time to get a new idea.
Tick tock applies here. It stands for a countdown, just as it did in the countdown until Trump is impeached thread, which he was, twice. Another thread was until Trump was indicted. Well, now he has been. And Tuesday next week, he will be arrested again on different charges. And I'll give you a hint, there is more to come after that. Too funny...
In the Ukraine thread, it represents a countdown to when things get so bad for Russia, you can no longer blow it off as lies. You will be forced to acknowledge Ukraine kicked Putin, Russias' ass. That Russia lost.
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Quote:A Russian law passed days before the destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam in southern Ukraine could be a "smoking gun" in proving Russia's involvement in the incident, according to an expert.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think, FYI, that Kiev had been threatening the Kakhova dam for over a year, discussing how to mine it and even taking a few practice HIMARS shots at it. That's the reason why Surovikin withdrew troops to the eastern side of the Dneiper- he was afraid that Kiev was going to flood the area. And Kiev had been saying for WEEKS that they were going to launch an attack that would confuse and panic the Russian military.
On May 30, a week before the dam's collapse, the Russian government approved a law aimed at "ensuring the safety of hydraulic structures" in the Ukrainian regions it proclaimed to have annexed in September 2022—the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, in Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia.
The legislation states that until January 1, 2028, investigations into accidents at hydro-technical structures that occurred as a result of military operations, sabotage and terrorist activities are prohibited. The decree was signed by Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and came into effect on the day it was published.
Kremlin Playbook
Keir Giles, senior consulting fellow at the Chatham House think tank's Russia and Eurasia program, said the May 30 legislation follows the Kremlin's playbook, which seeks "to pretend that it operates according to some semblance of legality."
"Russia has a perverse fascination with performative legalization of its most horrific crimes...it repeatedly puts in place in advance laws that give preemptive excuses for its actions," Giles told Newsweek.
"Sometimes this can give an indication of what is to come," said Giles, pointing to legislation on mass burials that was updated by Russia ahead of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine and came into effect on February 1, 2022—weeks before the war began.
"So in the case of the destruction of the Kakhovka dam, the passing a week beforehand of this bizarrely specific law covering precisely those circumstances is indeed a clear indication of Russian intent," Giles added.
Newsweek reached out to the Russian Foreign Ministry via email for comment.
Anders Åslund, an economist and adjunct professor at Georgetown University, Washington, DC, said the May 30 decree "only concludes what we already knew."
"Russian propagandists advocated blowing up the dam. Ukrainian officials announced last fall that the Russians had mined both the dam and the connected tunnels in October-November 2022," Åslund, who has served as an economic adviser to the governments of both Russia and Ukraine, told Newsweek.
"Several explosions were recorded, which show that they were underwater, while the Russians claimed that the Ukrainians had bombed it from the air, which seems close to impossible for technical reasons. The explosions occurred on the Russian side.
"The Russians followed up blowing up several smaller dams — recorded by the Ukrainians. And now you have this law," he said, adding: "The evidence seems overwhelming that it was the Russians who did it."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-smoking-gun-ukraine-kakhovka-dam-colla
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More delusional bullshit from SECOND, the sociopathic troll.
You're just as lunatic about "Russia" and Putin you are about Trump and "Trumptards".
Meanwhile, even the Military Summary Channel's Dima thinks that Ukraine and NATO are getting their asses handed to them.
"The Ukrainians lost more than 100, around 200 units of armored vehicles and they couldn't establish control over even a single black dot [Russian fortification] (begins appx 3:00)
"They [Ukraine] used the three Storm Shadows missiles ... two of those missiles managed to get the target, and they destroyed, attacked some kind of children's camp..." (begins appx 18:00)
The Complete Defeat Of The Ukrainian-NATO Forces. Military Summary For 2023.06.09
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Quote:Russian President Vladimir Putin announced on June 9 that Russia will begin deploying tactical nuclear weapons to Belarus in July 2023.[84] Putin met with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in Sochi, Russia, and stated that the necessary Belarusian storage facilities will finish construction on July 7 and 8, after which Russia will begin transferring tactical nuclear weapons to Belarus. Putin emphasized that the deployment of Russian weapons on Belarusian territory is proceeding according to plan. Putin’s announcement does not represent an escalation in prior Russian nuclear weapons rhetoric, and Russia remains unlikely to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, as ISW has previously assessed.[85] Putin’s announcement is also very unlikely to require a change in NATO’s nuclear posture.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More delusional bullshit from SECOND, the sociopathic troll.
You're just as lunatic about "Russia" and Putin you are about Trump and "Trumptards".
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-9-2023
There are three primary defenses of Donald Trump coming from Trumptards:
• Trump didn't sell any of the documents, destroy or alter any documents, or give them away. So how bad can it be?
• Hillary did it too.
• DOJ and the FBI are corrupt and have been weaponized against Trump.
None of these even remotely address the actual charges against Trump: that he took classified documents with him when he left the White House and then actively withheld them even after National Archives and Records Administration and the FBI repeatedly demanded their return.
But Republicans just don't care. They don't care about January 6, 2021. They don't care about Trump’s Big Lie that he won in 2020. They don't care that Trump tried to extort Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden. No matter what, Trump is being unfairly victimized. That's the alpha and omega. The facts don't matter and never will.
Trump's lawyers quit because he is guilty and now they know it from evidence in the indictment:
Jim Trusty and John Rowley, who helmed Trump’s Washington, D.C.-based legal team for months and were seen frequently at the federal courthouse, indicated they would no longer represent Trump in matters being investigated and prosecuted by special counsel Jack Smith, who is probing both the documents matter and efforts by Trump to subvert the 2020 election.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/09/trump-loses-two-lawyers-just-
hours-after-being-indicted-00101263
'We need to start killing': Trumptards flood social media with demands for violence
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2661184570/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More delusional bullshit from SECOND, the sociopathic troll.
You're just as lunatic about "Russia" and Putin you are about Trump and "Trumptards".
Meanwhile, even the Military Summary Channel's Dima thinks that Ukraine and NATO are getting their asses handed to them.
"The Ukrainians lost more than 100, around 200 units of armored vehicles and they couldn't establish control over even a single black dot [Russian fortification] (begins appx 3:00)
"They [Ukraine] used the three Storm Shadows missiles ... two of those missiles managed to get the target, and they destroyed, attacked some kind of children's camp..." (begins appx 18:00)
The Complete Defeat Of The Ukrainian-NATO Forces. Military Summary For 2023.06.09
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Ukraine war: Deserters risk death fleeing to Romania
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65792384
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The FBI is helping Ukraine censor Twitter users, including journalists.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1666453450693963778.html
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The FBI’s attempt to ban Twitter accounts at the request of Ukrainian intelligence is among the most overt requests for censorship revealed to date in the Twitter Files.
The FBI described the suppression effort as "assistance to Ukraine."
The FBI declined to answer my questions about its aid to Ukrainian intelligence censorship efforts.
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Quote:Brave Trumptards claimed to have bone spurs to avoid being drafted.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine war: Deserters risk death fleeing to Romania
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65792384
In the fall of 1968, Donald J. Trump received a timely diagnosis of bone spurs in his heels that led to his medical exemption from the military during Vietnam. For 50 years, the details of how the exemption came about, and who made the diagnosis, have remained a mystery until now! Two daughters of a New York podiatrist say that 50 years ago their father diagnosed President Donald Trump with bone spurs in his heels as a favor to the doctor's landlord, Fred Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/tru
mp-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/
The world would be a better if Trump had to risk death fleeing to Canada to avoid the draft.
"Trying to descend, (Ukrainian draft dodger) Dima lost his balance in the wind and ice, and hurtled down the mountain, losing his boots, his phone, and one of his socks." Dima must be his nickname for being a dimwit.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Brave Trumptards claimed to have bone spurs to avoid being drafted.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ukraine war: Deserters risk death fleeing to Romania
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65792384
Fuck you dude. Your "leaders" are laundering money and enriching the war machine while you're cheerleading two generations of Ukrainian men to their death every day on these boards from the safety of your mom's basement.
It's easy to pretend that you're a man when you've never been challenged once in your semi-charmed life.
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Quote:Four million Ukrainians were murdered by Russians in what Ukrainians call Holodomor. If there was a next time because Ukrainians don't fight the Russians right now, the death toll can be even higher. Ukrainians understand what the Russians will do to them and that's why they fight back.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
while you're cheerleading two generations of Ukrainian men to their death every day on these boards from the safety of your mom's basement.
Holodomor Basic Facts
https://holodomor.ca/resource/holodomor-basic-facts/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
More delusional bullshit from SECOND, the sociopathic troll.
You're just as lunatic about "Russia" and Putin you are about Trump and "Trumptards".
Meanwhile, even the Military Summary Channel's Dima thinks that Ukraine and NATO are getting their asses handed to them.
"The Ukrainians lost more than 100, around 200 units of armored vehicles and they couldn't establish control over even a single black dot [Russian fortification] (begins appx 3:00)
"They [Ukraine] used the three Storm Shadows missiles ... two of those missiles managed to get the target, and they destroyed, attacked some kind of children's camp..." (begins appx 18:00)
The Complete Defeat Of The Ukrainian-NATO Forces. Military Summary For 2023.06.09
THUGR: tick tock
"Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.
It tolls for thee"
Yep, THUGR, Ukraine's (and NATO's) clock is ticking
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Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday announced he will start deploying tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus on July 7-8, which falls days before a NATO summit in neighboring Lithuania.
The timing of the announcement was not lost on some officials, including Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya.
"This is nothing but a crude game of intimidation, trying to bully Europe into submission," Tsikhanouskaya tweeted. "We can't let dictators get away with their nuclear blackmail."
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-trying-intimidate-nato-nuclear-weapons-
1805607
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Originally posted by second:
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday announced he will start deploying tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus on July 7-8, which falls days before a NATO summit in neighboring Lithuania.
The timing of the announcement was not lost on some officials, including Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya.
"This is nothing but a crude game of intimidation, trying to bully Europe into submission," Tsikhanouskaya tweeted. "We can't let dictators get away with their nuclear blackmail."
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-trying-intimidate-nato-nuclear-weapons-
1805607
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If Russian tactical nukes in Belarus are a threat to Europe, what are American nuclear weapons in Europe?
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The United States has deployed nuclear weapons at NATO bases in Western Europe since the 1950s, when Cold War tensions were mounting with the Soviet Union. The weapons were first transferred to the United Kingdom in 1954, and later to Germany, Italy, France, Turkey, the Netherlands, Greece, and Belgium...
Today, U.S. tactical nuclear weapons remain at six bases in five NATO member countries, Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Turkey. The UK and France have their own nuclear forces and no longer host U.S. weapons.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/nuclear-weapons-europe-mapping-us-and-rus
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Fuck you, Nazi troll.
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Fuck Ukraine. Fuck NATO. Fuck Joe Biden*.
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Quote:Signym, expand that sentence: If Russian tactical nukes in Belarus are a threat to Europe, what are French and British nuclear weapons in Europe? Answer: Not A Threat because Britain did not threaten to nuke Paris and France did not threaten to nuke London. Meanwhile, Russia has threatened in 2023 to nuke Paris, London, Berlin, Warsaw, Helsinki, you name it, Putin threatened to nuke it. Now do see what is different, Signym?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Russian tactical nukes in Belarus are a threat to Europe, what are American nuclear weapons in Europe?
Fuck you, Nazi troll.
By the way, Russia has been threatening to nuke the West since it first got nukes. To dissuade Russia from turning its threats into reality, the US has spent over $10 trillion on nukes. Because Russia keeps making newer and bizarre threats to nuke the West, the US is projected to spend a total of $634 billion over the 2021–2030 period on nukes. Ukraine would be doing the West a huge favor if it can stop Russia from making these endless threats to nuke the West.
Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57240
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Quote:You can't possibly be THAT stupid, SECOND, so I'll take this as just another attempt to weasel out of your failed position.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, expand that sentence: If Russian tactical nukes in Belarus are a threat to Europe, what are French and British nuclear weapons in Europe? Answer: Not A Threat because Britain did not threaten to nuke Paris and France did not threaten to nuke London. Meanwhile, Russia has threatened in 2023 to nuke Paris, London, Berlin, Warsaw, Helsinki, you name it, Putin threatened to nuke it. Now do see what is different, Signym?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If Russian tactical nukes in Belarus are a threat to Europe, what are American nuclear weapons in Europe?
Fuck you, Nazi troll.
By the way, Russia has been threatening to nuke the West since it first got nukes. To dissuade Russia from turning its threats into reality, the US has spent over $10 trillion on nukes. Because Russia keeps making newer and bizarre threats to nuke the West, the US is projected to spend a total of $634 billion over the 2021–2030 period on nukes. Ukraine would be doing the West a huge favor if it can stop Russia from making these endless threats to nuke the West.
Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57240
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
But since THUR might actually be that stupid, I'm gonna explain to make it pellucidly clear.
If we see nukes positioned in Belarus as a threat to Europe, then the USSR, and now Russia, would have seen western nukes positioned in Europe as threats.
So if we want to point fingers at "who started it", clearly the USA started threatening first by positioning nukes in many nations in Europe, and Russia's action is just a decades-delayed response.
Capisce?
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Quote:Signym, have you never been around people with handguns in holsters? Or carrying rifles? There is a big difference between a gunman with a loaded weapon who says he will kill you and all your family and one who does NOT make that threat. Russia has been loudly threatening with words to kill everybody and their families since Russia first got nukes. France and Britain and China, all nuclear powers, have never raised their voices and made a verbal threat. Russia has officially spoken about that threat thousands of times. Unofficially, from Russian State TV and propaganda, Russia has made that threat millions of times. Putin made the threats many times since invading Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But since THUR might actually be that stupid, I'm gonna explain to make it pellucidly clear.
If we see nukes positioned in Belarus as a threat to Europe, then the USSR, and now Russia, would have seen western nukes positioned in Europe as threats.
So if we want to point fingers at "who started it", clearly the USA started threatening first by positioning nukes in many nations in Europe, and Russia's action is just a decades-delayed response.
Capisce?
Try for once in your life, Signym, to understand the difference between using words threatening to nuke everybody and NOT threatening to nuke anybody. I don't think you will get the subtleties because then you would realize what Russia has been doing wrong since its first above-ground A-bomb tests.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Russian milbloggers continue to highlight reported superior Russian electronic warfare (EW) capabilities as key to disrupting Ukrainian attacks. Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian EW units are disrupting Ukrainian communications as well as aviation units and alleged that some Ukrainian mechanized groups were not prepared to fight without communications or with suppressed GPS.[10] Another milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces attempted their own “electronic counter measures” against Russian reconnaissance and control capabilities in areas where there are Ukrainian assaults but that these attempts were unsuccessful.[11] Russian forces have reportedly successfully improved their EW use throughout the invasion of Ukraine.[12]
Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces have tactical advantages in conducting assaults at night due to Western-provided equipment with superior night optics systems. A prominent Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces are launching assaults at night because Western-provided equipment provides Ukrainian forces with “excellent” night vision optics.[13] Zaporizhia Oblast occupation official Vladimir Rogov also claimed that night assaults allow Ukrainian forces to more effectively use Western-provided equipment.[14] Russian sources have widely claimed that Ukrainian forces have started or intensified assaults at night in recent days, and Ukrainian forces may be increasingly leveraging the advantages provided by Western systems.[15]
Russian sources continue to highlight the role of scarce military district-level Russian TOS-1A thermobaric artillery systems against Ukrainian attacks, though Ukrainian forces destroyed at least two of these key systems in recent days. Geolocated footage published on June 8 and 9 confirms that Ukrainian forces have used Western precision munitions (reportedly the Paladin 155mm artillery system) to destroy at least two Russian TOS-1A thermobaric artillery systems – highly destructive but scarce artillery assets controlled at the Russian military district level – in western and eastern Zaporizhia Oblast during the Ukrainian counteroffensive.[16] The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) highlighted the role of Russian thermobaric artillery systems in striking Ukrainian positions on the western Zaporizhia Oblast frontline.[17] A Russian milblogger claimed that Russian thermobaric artillery units have consistently fired on Ukrainian forces on the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast administrative border and in western Zaporizhia Oblast for the past several days and characterized the units as essential to repelling Ukrainian frontal assaults.[18] Russian forces’ apparent reliance on specific artillery assets is noteworthy, as precision Ukrainian strikes on these systems could potentially complicate Russian defensive capabilities and Russian forces are unlikely to possess enough TOS-1A systems to provide the same level of fire support all along the front line.
Ukrainian forces are currently attempting an extraordinarily difficult tactical operation – a frontal assault against prepared defensive positions, further complicated by a lack of air superiority – and these initial assaults should not be extrapolated to predict all Ukrainian operations. Ukrainian forces are unsurprisingly taking casualties in initial attacks against some of the best-prepared Russian forces in Ukraine. However, initial attacks – and particularly selected footage that Russian sources are intentionally disseminating and highlighting – are not representative of all Ukrainian operations. The Russian military remains dangerous and Ukrainian forces certainly face a hard fight, but Ukraine has not yet committed the vast majority of its counteroffensive forces and Russian defenses are not uniformly strong along all sectors of the front line.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-10-2023
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Quote:SECOND, I have sat on a dark porch with a loaded rifle, safety off, defending a friend against a someone who was making what we now call 'terrorist threats'
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, have you never been around people with handguns in holsters? Or carrying rifles? There is a big difference between a gunman with a loaded weapon who says he will kill you and all your family and one who does NOT make that threat. Russia has been loudly threatening with words to kill everybody and their families since Russia first got nukes. France and Britain and China, all nuclear powers, have never raised their voices and made a verbal threat. Russia has officially spoken about that threat thousands of times. Unofficially, from Russian State TV and propaganda, Russia has made that threat millions of times. Putin made the threats many times since invading Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But since THUR might actually be that stupid, I'm gonna explain to make it pellucidly clear.
If we see nukes positioned in Belarus as a threat to Europe, then the USSR, and now Russia, would have seen western nukes positioned in Europe as threats.
So if we want to point fingers at "who started it", clearly the USA started threatening first by positioning nukes in many nations in Europe, and Russia's action is just a decades-delayed response.
Capisce?
Try for once in your life, Signym, to understand the difference between using words threatening to nuke everybody and NOT threatening to nuke anybody. I don't think you will get the subtleties because then you would realize what Russia has been doing wrong since its first above-ground A-bomb tests.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
knowing that person was threatening is one thing.
knowing that they purchsed a weapon is something else.
but knowing that they SHOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALREADY... well. that's a whole different story.
so, who bombed hiroshima and nagasaki, again?
what's your point?
oh, you have none.
fuck you, troll
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:SECOND, I have sat on a dark porch with a loaded rifle, safety off, defending a friend against a someone who was making what we now call 'terrorist threats'
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, have you never been around people with handguns in holsters? Or carrying rifles? There is a big difference between a gunman with a loaded weapon who says he will kill you and all your family and one who does NOT make that threat. Russia has been loudly threatening with words to kill everybody and their families since Russia first got nukes. France and Britain and China, all nuclear powers, have never raised their voices and made a verbal threat. Russia has officially spoken about that threat thousands of times. Unofficially, from Russian State TV and propaganda, Russia has made that threat millions of times. Putin made the threats many times since invading Ukraine.
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But since THUR might actually be that stupid, I'm gonna explain to make it pellucidly clear.
If we see nukes positioned in Belarus as a threat to Europe, then the USSR, and now Russia, would have seen western nukes positioned in Europe as threats.
So if we want to point fingers at "who started it", clearly the USA started threatening first by positioning nukes in many nations in Europe, and Russia's action is just a decades-delayed response.
Capisce?
Try for once in your life, Signym, to understand the difference between using words threatening to nuke everybody and NOT threatening to nuke anybody. I don't think you will get the subtleties because then you would realize what Russia has been doing wrong since its first above-ground A-bomb tests.
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knowing that person was threatening is one thing.
knowing that they purchsed a weapon is something else.
but knowing that they SHOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALREADY... well. that's a whole different story.
so, who bombed hiroshima and nagasaki, again?
what's your point?
oh, you have none.
fuck you, troll
You forgot to take your meds again comrade. Also, you are about to see updates on what is happening in Ukraine that are not favorable to Russia.
tick tock
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But since THUR might actually be that stupid, I'm gonna explain to make it pellucidly clear.
If we see nukes positioned in Belarus as a threat to Europe, then the USSR, and now Russia, would have seen western nukes positioned in Europe as threats.
So if we want to point fingers at "who started it", clearly the USA started threatening first by positioning nukes in many nations in Europe, and Russia's action is just a decades-delayed response.
Capisce?
SECOND: Signym, have you never been around people with handguns in holsters? Or carrying rifles? There is a big difference between a gunman with a loaded weapon who says he will kill you and all your family and one who does NOT make that threat. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH...
SECOND, I have sat on a dark porch with a loaded rifle, safety off, defending a friend against a someone who was making what we now call 'terrorist threats'
knowing that person was threatening is one thing.
knowing that they purchsed a weapon is something else.
but knowing that they SHOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALREADY... well. that's a whole different story.
so, who bombed hiroshima and nagasaki, again?
what's your point?
oh, you have none.
fuck you, troll
THUGR: You forgot to take your meds again comrade. Also, you are about to see updates on what is happening in Ukraine that are not favorable to Russia.
"You have boogers in your nose"
That's about the quality of your response. THUGR.
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tick tock
Indeed.
The clock ticks for Ukraine and NATO.
According to people who analyze such things, the USA military didn't send its older Bradley fighting vehicles, it sent its newest. And the USA sent its latest version of Patriot missiles. Now the USA is promising MORE multi-billion dollars-worth of Patriot missiles and M777 rockets. (And we probably sent latest-version M777 howitzers and HIMARS too.)
Germany didn't send their older Leopard tanks, the sent their latest version. UK didn't send their oldest version of Challenger 2 tanks, they apparently sent their newest. F-sixteens (apparently a few keys on this keyboard just bonked including the number six) have been promised. And, based on the # of armored vehicles destroyed so far, usa and NATO have sent in far more weapns than we admit. We (USA, NATO) are hemorrhaging weapons into Ukraine.
NATO will meet on Monday to decide what to do with Ukraine. They could decide to speed up Ukraine's accession into NATO. They could decide to send in eastern European (i.e. Polish) troops, which will invetibaly lead to USA boots on the ground. They could just decide to empty their armories and treasuries into Ukraine.
The funny thing is, I have a sneaking suspicion this is all according to Russia's plan (or one them, anyway. Russia apparently doesn't have "a" plan, it has a number of contingencies.)
Russia knows it's not fighting "Ukraine".
To all intents and purposes, Ukraine doesn't even exist anymore except as a source of bodies for NATOs proxy-war weapons. It has no production, it collects no taxes, it would cease to operate the moment the cash flow stopped.
It's easy to see how Russia could demilitarize Ukraine. It was harder to see how Russia could demilitarize NATO. But with NATOs help, it can be done. All NATO needs to do is keep bleeding more and more into its proxy battlefield. Do you recall how Russia refused to close off the cauldron around Bakhmut? Ukraine's obssession with Bakhmut - sending in more and more (mostly untrained) infantry - allowed Russia to successfully conduct what Russians literally called "Operation Meatgrinder'
Russia KNOWS it's fighting NATO. And I suspect that Ukraine is Bakhmut writ large. As long as NATO keeps sending in weapons at a rate slow enough for them to be destroyed, Russia will slowly demilitarize NATO as well as Ukraine. And that seems to be the case. one of the worst things that coul
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Quote:Signym, you bring up Hiroshima. Too bad you forget that Russia murdered 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor without using any high-tech. And you forget the 62 million Russians killed by Russians during political disputes. Russians murder Russians as policy, so when Russians threaten to nuke the West, as Russia has threatened thousands of times, the US believes Russia and then spends $10 trillion on nuclear weapons to dissuade Russia from killing the West.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I have sat on a dark porch with a loaded rifle, safety off, defending a friend against a someone who was making what we now call 'terrorist threats'
knowing that person was threatening is one thing.
knowing that they purchsed a weapon is something else.
but knowing that they SHOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALREADY... well. that's a whole different story.
so, who bombed hiroshima and nagasaki, again?
what's your point?
oh, you have none.
fuck you, troll
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Quote:Millions of Chinese soldiers are "needed" to fight in Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine as Kyiv launches its long-awaited counteroffensive, Russian state TV host Olga Skabeyeva recently said.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia knows it's not fighting "Ukraine".
To all intents and purposes, Ukraine doesn't even exist anymore except as a source of bodies for NATOs proxy-war weapons. It has no production, it collects no taxes, it would cease to operate the moment the cash flow stopped.
It's easy to see how Russia could demilitarize Ukraine. It was harder to see how Russia could demilitarize NATO. But with NATOs help, it can be done. All NATO needs to do is keep bleeding more and more into its proxy battlefield. Do you recall how Russia refused to close off the cauldron around Bakhmut? Ukraine's obssession with Bakhmut - sending in more and more (mostly untrained) infantry - allowed Russia to successfully conduct what Russians literally called "Operation Meatgrinder'
Russia KNOWS it's fighting NATO. And I suspect that Ukraine is Bakhmut writ large.
As Russia's military grapples with Ukraine's latest attempt at reclaiming occupied land, Skabeyeva, host of the Russian TV program 60 Minutes, offered one solution to bolster its military.
During a recent episode of the show, she called for millions of Chinese troops to join the Russia-Ukraine war. Skabeyeva pointed to the recent battles in Russia's Belgorod region where Putin's forces have reportedly struggled in recent weeks as to why Moscow needs more soldiers.
"Don't dismiss two or three million Chinese soldiers. That's what is needed now. I look at Belgorod region and think how much we lack a Chinese people's liberation army," she said.
Despite this call from Skabeyeva, China has not indicated that it plans to send troops into Russia—which would be viewed as a massive escalation of the conflict.
Newsweek reached out to the Chinese Foreign Ministry for comment via email.
https://www.newsweek.com/millions-chinese-troops-needed-putins-war-rus
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you bring up Hiroshima. Too bad you forget that Russia murdered 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor without using any high-tech. And you forget the 62 million Russians killed by Russians during political disputes. Russians murder Russians as policy, so when Russians threaten to nuke the West, as Russia has threatened thousands of times, the US believes Russia and then spends $10 trillion on nuclear weapons to dissuade Russia from killing the West.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I have sat on a dark porch with a loaded rifle, safety off, defending a friend against a someone who was making what we now call 'terrorist threats'
knowing that person was threatening is one thing.
knowing that they purchsed a weapon is something else.
but knowing that they SHOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALREADY... well. that's a whole different story.
so, who bombed hiroshima and nagasaki, again?
what's your point?
oh, you have none.
fuck you, troll
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And America killed an estimated 5-6 million indirectly in our "War on Terror" across the Mideast.
So, what's your point, again? Gonna bring up more bogus figures about how many Russians Russia killed?
Ok, how many native Americans did America kill? How many slaves?
Seriously dood, if your real heartburn is about nukes, stick with nukes. (America's record on nukes and treaties: THE AGGRESSOR)
If your heartburn is about # of people that each nation killed, stop bringing bogus numbers to the table, and start assessing OUR record across the globe.
You're twisted by hate, and there's spaghetti in your skull where your brain should be.
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Quote:I would heartily approve of George Bush and Dick Cheney being charged with war crimes. Next up would be Putin, who threatened to nuke the site of war crimes trials when he was charged with war crimes. Signym, are you starting to see a pattern where Russia threatens to nuke anybody who gets in Russia's way?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you bring up Hiroshima. Too bad you forget that Russia murdered 4 million Ukrainians during Holodomor without using any high-tech. And you forget the 62 million Russians killed by Russians during political disputes. Russians murder Russians as policy, so when Russians threaten to nuke the West, as Russia has threatened thousands of times, the US believes Russia and then spends $10 trillion on nuclear weapons to dissuade Russia from killing the West.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, I have sat on a dark porch with a loaded rifle, safety off, defending a friend against a someone who was making what we now call 'terrorist threats'
knowing that person was threatening is one thing.
knowing that they purchsed a weapon is something else.
but knowing that they SHOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALREADY... well. that's a whole different story.
so, who bombed hiroshima and nagasaki, again?
what's your point?
oh, you have none.
fuck you, troll
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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And America killed an estimated 5-6 million indirectly in our "War on Terror" across the Mideast.
So, what's your point, again? Gonna bring up more bogus figures about how many Russians Russia killed?
Ok, how many native Americans did America kill? How many slaves?
Seriously dood, if your real heartburn is about nukes, stick with nukes. (America's record on nukes and treaties: THE AGGRESSOR)
If your heartburn is about # of people that each nation killed, stop bringing bogus numbers to the table, and start assessing OUR record across the globe.
You're twisted by hate, and there's spaghetti in your skull where your brain should be.
ICC Issues Arrest Warrant For Putin Over Ukraine War Crimes
Associated Press | March 17, 2023
https://news.wttw.com/2023/03/17/icc-issues-arrest-warrant-putin-over-
ukraine-war-crimes
Putin's Arrest Could Spark World War III, Russia Warns
By Isabel van Brugen On 3/23/23
Russia's former President Dmitry Medvedev has warned that any attempt by Germany to arrest President Vladimir Putin on the International Criminal Court's warrant could spark World War III.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-arrest-spark-world-war-iii-3-russia-med
vedev-1789758
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A) For war crimes tribunals I nominate:
Henry Kissinger: Indonesia
Reagan: Contras, central America
Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright: Yugoslavia, Iraq (for sanctions that killed 500,000 children)
GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld: "War of Terror"
Obama, Hillary Clinton, various heads of CIA: Syria, Libya, Ukraine
B) Threatening is not a war crime.
If it were, you would be prosecuted.
Troll
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Quote:Putin was charged with war crimes in Ukraine. Details for Signym are at "ICC judges issue arrest warrants against Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova"
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Threatening is not a war crime.
If it were, you would be prosecuted.
Troll
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest
-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and
Besides Russia, there is one other country that constantly threatens to nuke the World. That is North Korea, which is impoverished compared to South Korea. Why poorer? For the same reasons as Russia is poor compared to the EU. North Korea is belligerent, spends too much on nukes, and can't run its economy worth a goddamn. An economic comparison between Russia and Canada proves that: https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/canada
North Koreans are at growing risk of starvation
Reports of terrible hunger are emerging from the closed-off state
Mar 21st 2023
https://www.economist.com/asia/2023/03/21/north-koreans-are-at-growing
-risk-of-starvation
This is not the first time North Korea has crashed its economy: Estimates of the death toll vary widely. Out of a total population of approximately 22 million, somewhere between 240,000 and 3,500,000 North Koreans died from starvation or hunger-related illnesses, with the deaths peaking in 1997.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine
Not to be outdone in incompetence by North Korea, Russia has mismanaged itself and killed off millions of Russians since the Soviet Union collapsed.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1057/s41294-021-00169-w
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And Kissinger has been charged war crimes.
Oh yeah,that big dip in life expectancy? That was Russia UNDER AMERICA.
Gosh you're stupid!
Troll!
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A) For war crimes tribunals I nominate:
Henry Kissinger: Indonesia
Reagan: Contras, central America
Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright: Yugoslavia, Iraq (for sanctions that killed 500,000 children)
GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld: "War of Terror"
Obama, Hillary Clinton, various heads of CIA: Syria, Libya, Ukraine
B) Threatening is not a war crime.
If it were, you would be prosecuted.
Troll
Comrade signym uses two types of debate style. One is Whataboutism and the other is, Fallacy of relative privation. Each is a way of avoiding acknowledging a truth within the others post. Can you guess the style she is using here?
The fallacy of relative privation is a way of dismissing or minimizing an argument by claiming that there are more important or worse problems to deal with. It is a type of informal fallacy and a red herring or distraction from the relevant issue.
It is not the same as being thankful or trying to improve one's situation by comparing it to others. A common example of this fallacy is the response "but there are children starving in Africa" to any less serious issue.
Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a rhetorical technique and logical fallacy in which a person responds to a difficult concern or question with a counter-accusation in order to divert attention to a different topic. It involves changing the subject to focus on someone else's misconduct, implying that all criticism is invalid because no one is completely blameless. Whataboutism is typically used when one is charged with a harmful accusation regarding their past actions.
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Quote:That was Russia UNDER AMERICA? I guess you didn't read the part comparing North Korea to Russia, including both countries constantly threatening to nuke the West. North Korea says that all its problems are caused by America. I don't think the Kim family is correct when they blame the problems they caused in North Korea on America. But then the Kims would have to blame themselves, would they not? Placing the blame where it belongs is not going to happen, whether your name is Kim or Putin/Yeltsin/Gorbachev or Trump/Bush/Cheney/Nixon/Kissinger.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And Kissinger has been charged war crimes.
Oh yeah,that big dip in life expectancy? That was Russia UNDER AMERICA.
Gosh you're stupid!
Troll!
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I predict Russia's future will be going in the direction of North Korea rather than prospering like South Korea. I also predict with certainty that Russians will blame the US. What else is freedom of speech for other than to declare yourself not at fault for creating a disappointing future for yourself?
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Ukrainian forces made visually verified advances in western Donetsk Oblast and western Zaporizhia Oblast, which Russian sources confirmed but sought to downplay. Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar reported that Ukrainian forces advanced 300 to 1,500 meters in southern Ukraine.[4] Malyar and other Ukrainian and Russian sources reported that Ukrainian forces made gains south of Velyka Novosilka between June 10 and 11, including liberating Makarivka, Neskuchne, Blahodatne, Storozheve, and Novodarivka.[5] Some Russian sources reported that battles are ongoing in “grey zone” or contested areas or that Ukrainian forces are operating in areas that Russian forces did not fully occupy before Ukrainian attacks in southern Ukraine.[6] Russian sources are likely referring to Ukrainian territorial advances through Russian defenses as capturing ”grey zones” in order to downplay Ukrainian gains and omit reporting on Ukrainian forces breaking through defensive lines. Ukrainian forces liberated several towns, but claims of a Ukrainian “breakthrough” are premature at this time.
Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar stated that Russian forces are transferring their most combat-capable units from the Kherson direction to the Bakhmut and Zaporizhia directions. Malyar stated on June 11 that Russian forces are transferring elements of the 49th Combined Arms Army (Southern Military District) and unspecified naval infantry and airborne forces elements from the Kherson direction in connection with the destruction of the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam.[7] Malyar noted that Russian forces likely blew the KHPP dam in order to shorten their defensive lines in Kherson Oblast as part of the response to the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. Flooding downriver of the KHPP has drained the Kakhovka Reservoir, resulting in landmasses emerging from the water. It is unclear how these terrain changes will affect maneuver warfare in southern Ukraine at this time.[8] If the terrain changes from flooding in the Dnipro River do not foreclose any possible Ukrainian river crossings in coming weeks and months, Russian forces may struggle to defend Kherson Oblast with remaining or then-available units if and when Ukrainian forces choose to conduct offensive operations across the river, assuming they have the ability to do so.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-11-2023
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Quote:YES. I guess you had your head stuck up your ass for that decade, when Russia "privatized" per the Chicago School of Economics, and when American and UK "financiers" (like Bill Browder) and Russian bandits made off with Russia's national assets?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And Kissinger has been charged war crimes.
Oh yeah,that big dip in life expectancy? That was Russia UNDER AMERICA.
Gosh you're stupid!
Troll!
SECOND; That was Russia UNDER AMERICA?
Yanno, that decade of lawlessness and bottomless decadence and privation, when Russia's GDP fell by half and the lifespan of Russian men dropped to fifty, as they drank themselves to death in utter hoplessness?
That decade when Russians learned to hate "American style" gangster-capitalism?
THAT decade?
Quote:By now. SECOND, you should realize that I dont read past any sentence that is egregiously stupid or mendacious. And you repeating your delusions/lies ad nauseum doesn't make them true.
SECOND; you didn't read the part comparing North Korea to Russia, BLAH BLAH BLAH
Honestly, I don't know where you get your stupid ideas from, and I'm not gonna bother addressing them, unless I think it's educational.
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Troll!
Yanno, that decade of lawlessness and bottomless decadence and privation, when Russia's GDP fell by half and the lifespan of Russian men dropped to fifty, as they drank themselves to death in utter hoplessness?
That decade when Russians learned to hate "American style" gangster-capitalism?
Sig, this video contradicts your claim that Russia suffered due to capitalism. He explains how the Russian GDP doubled every 5 years during the years you say Russians learned to hate America. Once again comrade signym proves herself to be always wrong.
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Quote:Russian history summed up by one line: When a Russian President Ended Up Drunk and Disrobed Outside the White House
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
YES. I guess you had your head stuck up your ass for that decade, when Russia "privatized" per the Chicago School of Economics, and when American and UK "financiers" (like Bill Browder) and Russian bandits made off with Russia's national assets?
Yanno, that decade of lawlessness and bottomless decadence and privation, when Russia's GDP fell by half and the lifespan of Russian men dropped to fifty, as they drank themselves to death in utter hoplessness?
That decade when Russians learned to hate "American style" gangster-capitalism?
THAT decade?
By now. SECOND, you should realize that I dont read past any sentence that is egregiously stupid or mendacious. And you repeating your delusions/lies ad nauseum doesn't make them true.
Honestly, I don't know where you get your stupid ideas from, and I'm not gonna bother addressing them, unless I think it's educational.
https://www.history.com/news/bill-clinton-boris-yeltsin-drunk-1994-rus
sian-state-visit
Gorbachev/Yeltsin/Putin have done a fine job leading Russia, but any failures are really America's fault, not Russia's.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin will threaten strikes against NATO member nations over their support for Ukraine, predicted Russia Today (RT) editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan.
Many allies have offered Kyiv billions of dollars in military aid and are credited with helping turn the tide of the war in favor of the Ukrainians. Russia has reacted with anger to this aid, accusing NATO of crossing red lines by providing Ukraine with weapons.
Simonyan said in a new interview that she believes Putin will soon give NATO an "ultimatum" over its aid to Ukraine, adding that the West giving the war-torn country weapons for free "constitutes participation in the war."
"One morning we'll wake up to find out that last night Vladimir Putin has declared an ultimatum, saying that if F-16 jets taking off from the airfields of such countries continue striking Russian territory — if such and such weapons, shipped from the ports of such and such countries, continue being supplied, then we will consider these airfields and these ports legitimate war targets," Simonyan said.
Simonyan added that Russia also has the right to declare, with no ultimatum, that NATO countries are legitimate targets. But she cast doubt that Putin would take that route, saying she does not "see another option" for how the spat over Ukrainian aid could possibly end.
Simonyan and other Russian state TV figures have made headlines for previous threats against Ukraine and the West. Last April, the RT editor-in-chief floated the idea of "complete destruction" of Ukraine and "a nuclear strike."
Simonayn's RT, along with other Russian state media, has largely towed the Kremlin line on the Russia-Ukraine war after the State Duma cracked down on dissent.
United Kingdom Foreign Secretary James Cleverly recently told reporters that Ukraine "has the right to project force beyond its borders to undermine Russia's ability to project force into Ukraine itself." His remarks drew a response from Russia, with former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev saying that British officials are now a "legitimate military target" for Russia.
The United States, however, has said it does not condone strikes within Russia's borders.
"We have said this before, we do not support attacks inside of Russia. We've been very clear about that," White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters last month.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/putin-will-threaten-strikes-against-nato-coun
tries-russian-tv-chief-warns-1805762
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Quote:I didn't bother to watch the video bc the guy is an idiot.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Troll!
Yanno, that decade of lawlessness and bottomless decadence and privation, when Russia's GDP fell by half and the lifespan of Russian men dropped to fifty, as they drank themselves to death in utter hoplessness?
That
THUGR: Sig, this video contradicts your claim that Russia suffered due to capitalism.
The economic collapse of Russia under Yeltsin is WIDELY KNOWN by pretty much everyone. Except you, and the idiot you keep citing.
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Quote:Russia's economic fall was guided by Russia's leaders, not the West's leaders. The fall was Russia's failure, not the West's.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't bother to watch the video bc the guy is an idiot.
The economic collapse of Russia under Yeltsin is WIDELY KNOWN by pretty much everyone. Except you, and the idiot you keep citing.
Russia's invasion of Ukraine was Putin's idea. If the invasion fails, the failure is Putin's decision, not a Russian failure caused by the West. I know that Putin keeps blaming everybody who sends weapons to Ukraine for Russia's difficulties, but what the hell did he think would happen? That the West would just let him cut off a chunk of a European country and attach it to Russia? All of Europe is aware that Russia has cut off chunks of other European countries in the past. Finland for one example. Russia has even gobbled up entire Baltic countries.
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How 'shock therapy' created Russian oligarchs and paved the path for Putin
But Yeltsin and his allies believed that time was not on their side. An attempted coup in August 1991 by Soviet hardliners against the reformers almost derailed the whole project. Entrenched Soviet industrialists and party insiders wanted a return to the old order. The Yeltsin administration decided that a program known as "shock therapy" — rapidly unleashing market forces — was the way to electrocute the old Soviet system and jolt Russia into embracing capitalism.
American advisors and global creditors, especially the International Monetary Fund, played a notable role advocating for shock therapy. But some influential shock therapists, like the economist Jeffrey Sachs, then at Harvard, believed such a radical program needed support. He proposed the United States and multilateral development agencies help Russian reformers succeed with a $30 billion aid package, akin to what America had provided Europe after WWII with the Marshall Plan. Sachs also called for the cancellation of Russia's debts. But these ideas were rejected by American leaders.
President Yeltsin delivered the first big shock to the Russian economy when he lifted price controls in December 1991. As the Soviet economy collapsed, however, the policy ended up unleashing hyperinflation. By 1994, consumer prices in Russia would skyrocket to almost 2000 times what they had been in 1990. That candy bar that had cost $1 now cost $2000. Hyperinflation devastated ordinary Russians.
Meanwhile, Chubais was tasked with overseeing mass privatization. That entailed transforming a nation whose almost entire economy consisted of state-controlled industries — manufacturing plants, oil refineries, mines, media outlets, biscuit factories, you name it — into private enterprises. It was, to date, surely the biggest transfer of state assets to private owners in world history.
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2022/03/22/1087654279/how-shock-the
rapy-created-russian-oligarchs-and-paved-the-path-for-putin
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Quote:Alternatively, Boris Yeltsin was a drunken pig too stupid to understand the business advice he was given. Con-men told Yeltsin to destroy Russia by giving away Russian government property for less than one percent of what it was worth. Yeltsin couldn't do the back of an envelope financial arithmetic to understand he was being cheated. Yeltsin should have had somebody loyal to Russia do the arithmetic for him. That is all on Yeltsin.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey! It's from NPR: A source you know and trust!
Even worse, Yeltsin could not understand how inflation works, but he is not alone. Over at the inflation thread, 6ix is absolutely convinced that Biden controls prices, not the sellers. The result is high inflation because sellers keep raising prices until they have taken ALL the money that the dumbest Americans have. (Prices are about 100 times higher than prices were 100 years ago. That kind of long-term inflation, rather than monthly increases.) In Russia, the government actually does control prices in ways Biden could never do. When Yeltsin released control of prices, sellers raised prices, just like sellers obviously do in America, until they had taken ALL the money that the dumbest Russians have.
Likewise, Putin decided he wanted Ukraine and his Yes Men said "Yes, Your Highness! You are correct that the EU leaders are weaklings and will never send weapons to Ukraine for fear that you will cut off their natural gas. You are very wise and handsome, Your Highness!" Putin should not surround himself with Yes Men who know nothing. That mistake is all on Putin.
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The Ukrainian Cities Obliterated In Russia's Self-Proclaimed 'Liberation'
June 11, 2023 20:23 GMT
By Donbas.Realities, Svitlana Kuzmenko, Carl Schreck
Russia has delivered multiple public justifications for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine that President Vladimir Putin launched in February 2022, among them what it has called the "liberation" of Ukraine's eastern Donbas region, which Moscow had seized partial control of in 2014.
But Russia's all-out war on Ukraine has decimated multiple cities and towns targeted in Moscow's ostensible "liberation" campaign.
A new project by Donbas.Realities, a regional news outlet of RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service, looks at the fate of five towns and cities in eastern Ukraine following Russia’s full-scale invasion, including one that was not only nearly completely destroyed by Russian artillery and bombs, but also literally wiped from the map by Russian-installed occupying administrators.
More at https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-destroyed-cities-russia-war/32454453.h
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Social media video footage circulated on June 12 reportedly shows Russian barrier troops – specialized units that threaten to shoot their own retreating personnel or compel offensives – shooting Russian forces that abandoned their positions somewhere in Ukraine.[54] ISW is unable to confirm whether the footage is authentic at this time. The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense reported in November 2022 that Russian forces in Ukraine probably started deploying “barrier troops” and “blocking units” to Ukraine and that Russian generals likely want their subordinate commanders to shoot deserters, including possibly authorizing personnel kill their own deserting servicemen.[55]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-12-2023
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Reuters saw at least three dead Russian soldiers lying in the street, including one whose fly-blown body lay by an abandoned Russian military vehicle. Artem, a member of a Ukrainian territorial defence unit, who gave no surname said the advancing Ukrainian troops had watched from a drone as Russians initially tried to evacuate their comrade, only to dump him where he lay and flee.
It was the first independent confirmation of Ukraine's advance in the area, roughly 90 km southwest of the city of Donetsk . . . No surprise that Russians leave Russians behind to die. They have been abandoning tens of millions of Russians to death since before the Great Patriotic War. Such a fine bunch of people. So loyal, trustworthy, and caring.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ceding-ground-ukraine-russia-kill
s-civilians-apartment-block-strike-2023-06-13/
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Quote:The CIA warned Ukraine not to bomb the Nord Stream pipeline
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency warned the Ukrainian government not to attack the Nord Stream gas pipelines last summer after it obtained detailed information about a Ukrainian plot to destroy a main energy connection between Russia and Europe, officials familiar with the exchange said.
The message, delivered by CIA officials in June, followed a tip the CIA received from the military intelligence service of the Netherlands, these officials said.
....The CIA then received information that Ukraine had called off the original plan, according to a U.S. official....At a meeting with a European counterpart in October [after the bombing], CIA Director William Burns told his counterpart that available evidence didn’t point to Russia. When asked if it was Ukraine, he said, “I hope not,” according to an official present at the meeting.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warned-ukraine-not-to-attack-nord-str
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The CIA thought Ukraine had given up on the plan after the warning, but apparently they only delayed it. This was certainly ballsy behavior from a country that desperately needed billions of dollars in military aid from the US for its war with Russia.
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SECOND- a never-ending fount of disinfo.
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Quote:Is this the one that made you mad?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND- a never-ending fount of disinfo.
Reuters saw at least three dead Russian soldiers lying in the street, including one whose fly-blown body lay by an abandoned Russian military vehicle. Artem, a member of a Ukrainian territorial defence unit, who gave no surname said the advancing Ukrainian troops had watched from a drone as Russians initially tried to evacuate their comrade, only to dump him where he lay and flee.
It was the first independent confirmation of Ukraine's advance in the area, roughly 90 km southwest of the city of Donetsk . . . No surprise that Russians leave Russians behind to die. They have been abandoning tens of millions of Russians to death since before the Great Patriotic War. Such a fine bunch of people. So loyal, trustworthy, and caring.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ceding-ground-ukraine-russia-kill
s-civilians-apartment-block-strike-2023-06-13/
Or was it this one, Signym?
Social media video footage circulated on June 12 reportedly shows Russian barrier troops – specialized units that threaten to shoot their own retreating personnel or compel offensives – shooting Russian forces that abandoned their positions somewhere in Ukraine.[54] ISW is unable to confirm whether the footage is authentic at this time. The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense reported in November 2022 that Russian forces in Ukraine probably started deploying “barrier troops” and “blocking units” to Ukraine and that Russian generals likely want their subordinate commanders to shoot deserters, including possibly authorizing personnel kill their own deserting servicemen.[55]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-12-2023
It is completely predictable that Russians would be POOR compared to EU citizens since Russians can't trust other Russians to not kill them when convenient. To grow wealthy requires citizens to trust that fellow citizens won't murder them.
Unlike the US in all wars of the 20th and 21st centuries, Russia does NOT keep a list of every soldier who dies because Russia does NOT give a damn how many millions of its citizens die. Back in 1990, Russia had killed 62 million of its own citizens as proof Russia does NOT care who dies.
From the book Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
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1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987
2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922
3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928
4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935
5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938
6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941
7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945
8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953
9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987
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Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
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Putin discussed the progress of the Ukrainian counteroffensive and signaled that he believes Russia can outlast Western military support for Ukraine. Putin stated that Russian objectives have not fundamentally changed, reiterating boilerplate rhetoric and false narratives accusing Ukraine and NATO of initiating the war.[10] Putin added that the West can push Ukraine into negotiations with Russia by stopping the supplies of military aid to Ukraine.[11] Putin noted that Ukrainian forces launched a ”massive” counteroffensive on June 4 and noted that Ukrainian forces attacked in southwestern Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts, claiming they suffered significant losses. Putin claimed that Ukraine has lost 160 tanks and claimed that 30 percent of Ukraine’s casualties are killed in action, whereas Russian forces have lost only 54 tanks. Putin may be attempting to systematically amplify and misrepresent Ukrainian losses of Western military equipment to portray Ukraine’s counteroffensive as failed and discourage the West from continuing to support Ukraine. Former Russian officer and ardent ultranationalist Igor Girkin observed that Putin’s comments indicate that the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) continues to misinform him about the true situation on the battlefield.[12]
Putin indicated that he is unwilling to announce a second wave of mobilization or declare martial law, despite maintaining his maximalist objectives in Ukraine. Putin acknowledged that some Russian “public figures” are discussing the urgent need for mobilization but noted that there “is currently no need today” for mobilization. Putin boasted about Russian contract service recruitment efforts using rhetoric consistent with ISW’s previous assessments that Putin is disinterested in announcing another mobilization wave and is instead prioritizing volunteer recruitment.[13] Putin also downplayed milbloggers’ concern over the Kremlin’s decision to not declare full-scale martial law throughout Russia, stating that Russia needs to expand its law enforcement rather than declare martial law. ISW continues to assess that Putin is a risk-averse actor who is hesitant to upset Russian society by ordering another mobilization wave or establishing martial law throughout Russia, indicating that Putin has not yet decided to fully commit to fighting a total war. Putin’s statements likely aim to reassure his constituencies that he does not intend to expand the “special military operation” further.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-13-2023
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Quote:Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU. Russia denies it all, denies that the best Russians emigrated, leaving murderers to run the country. Instead, Russia has an alternate explanation: the EU, UK, and US made Russia poor. By denying the truth of its murder rampages, including the ongoing one in Ukraine, Russia can feel good knowing that the dead won't crawl out of the grave and beseech living Russians to atone for murder.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
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Vladimir Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine has spurred NATO members to plan in detail what has been unthinkable since the end of the Cold War — a direct conflict with Russia.
However, ahead of the bloc's summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, starting on July 11 when countering Russia will be top of the agenda, Sir Richard Shirreff, the former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe, said NATO was not ready for a war with Moscow.
"It needs a real kick up the backside," he told Newsweek, as he took aim at dwindling military budgets across alliance members, although there are exceptions, such as Poland.
"There is a massive war going on in Eastern Europe. It's a land war and it's an air war, and so you need to invest in air and land, and that hasn't been done," Shirreff said. "Last year at its Madrid summit, (Alliance Secretary General) Jens Stoltenberg announced that NATO would ramp up its very high readiness forces to 300,000 — that simply hasn't happened."
The former British general said that the U.K. Army was an example of such cuts across the bloc being run down to a "ludicrous size" as he believed that the defense establishment had believed that China, not Russia, was the major long-term threat.
"Geography matters here and Russia is the wolf nearest the sledge," said Shirreff, the managing partner at the consultancy Strategia Worldwide. He believed there has been a "failure of deterrence" by the alliance, which missed an opportunity to build up capability after Putin seized Crimea in 2014.
"Am I confident that NATO will really be able to generate conventional forces ready for a conventional war with Russia? No, I'm not."
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-russia-war-footing-1806011
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"Blocking units," sometimes called "barrier troops," are tasked with enforcing Russian military discipline, which includes preventing soldiers from running away from battle.
Asked about barrier troops in a previous story on the drone footage, Jason Jay Smart, a political adviser on post-Soviet and international politics, told Newsweek that "Russians shooting their own troops has a long tradition in Russian military history, and it has been commonplace throughout this war."
He added, "This incident, showing a total lack of concern or interest in preserving human life, is the epitome of how the Russian military thinks and behaves."
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-soldiers-admit-military-shooting-its-
own-members-1806729
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.
Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!
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Quote:Signym, Russia and North Korea both build nukes so that nobody outside the country can make those countries behave decently. Russia and North Korea also killed their own people by the millions so that nobody inside those countries can make those countries behave decently. What is the result? No decent person outside those countries trusts those countries. That lack of trust is why both countries are poor. Russia is less poor because it does have cheap oil and natural gas to export, but North Korea does not have that good fortune.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.
Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!
Signym, compare Russia's and Canada's economy: https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/russia/canada
Russia does poorly because nobody decent trusts Russia. But Canada does well. You could do the same comparison between North Korea and South Korea. When was the last time you saw a product from North Korea in a store? Meanwhile, South Korean products cruise down the streets all over the world and can be found in kitchens and living rooms everywhere.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.
Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!
Best you leave the thinking to the adults comrade.
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SIGNY:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
SECOND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.
SIGNY: Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!
THUGR: Best you leave the thinking to the adults comrade.
How would you know, son?
Your reply is a perfect example of STUPID THUGR-TROLL. It's obvious you can't demonstrate that I'm wrong so you resort to
childish name-calling (comrade), which might sting if it were even a tiny bit true, but it's not, And
dumb insults (implying that I can't think when clearly it's your brain that can't get in gear)
Seriously, son. As the saying goes: "Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
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Russian forces reportedly doubled the trained dolphins defending the Russian naval base in Sevastopol in occupied Crimea. Online news outlet Naval News reported on June 14 that Russian forces have likely increased the number of dolphins defending the naval base from about three to four to about six to seven and will likely increase their patrol frequency.[54]
The Kremlin continues efforts to incentivize foreigners to serve in the Russian military. The Russian State Duma adopted the second reading of a bill aimed at simplifying the process of issuing residence permits to foreign highly skilled workers who signed contracts with the Russian military since the start of the war in February 2022.[48] The law will only apply to highly skilled workers who have already worked in Russia in their specialties for a minimum of two years.[49] ISW has previously reported on Russian legislation aimed at incentivizing military service, which now appears to be extending to incorporate foreigners living in Russia.[50]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-14-2023
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
SEVIND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.
Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!
Best you leave the thinking to the adults comrade.
T
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Huh, which one of your innumerable lies should I focus on?
Troll.
SECOND: Russians murdering ten million Russians is the only reason Russia is poor compared to the EU.
SIGNY: Oh, I thought it was bc Russia kept threatening with nukes and was JUST LIKE NORTH KOREA. (Another stupid idea!) At least that's what you'd been yammering about for some 20+ posts.
You see? That's why I don't take anything you post seriously. All I have to do is wait a few posts and you'll undercut YOURSELF!
Troll!
SECOND: Signym, the USA build nukes so that nobody outside the country can make the USA behave decently. The USA also brainwashed their own people and killed foreigners by the millions so that nobody inside those countries can make those countries behave decently. What is the result? No decent person trusts the USA. That rapaciousness is why the USA elites are rich.
Fixed it for you.
Once other nations realize that the USA is no longer the only military and financial power and they stop cowering in fear, USA living standard (for the typical person) will decline even faster than it has been for the past 30 years.
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Quote:Do you read too much Russian propaganda, Signym? When I was 10 years old, 61 years ago, the same complaints you are making were being made by angry poor white trash in East Texas. The white trash kept complaining and eventually switched to Trump, but it did no good because those people are no better at understanding where wealth comes from now than they were 61 years ago. That is the reason why Median wealth per US adult is on the low side now as it was back then:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No decent person trusts the USA. That rapaciousness is why the USA elites are rich.
Fixed it for you.
Once other nations realize that the USA is no longer the only military and financial power and they stop cowering in fear, USA living standard (for the typical person) will decline even faster than it has been for the past 30 years.
List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133
Russia $6,919
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When I was 10 years old, 61 years ago
You were 10 years old 15 years ago. Your mom hates you.
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Quote:I am old enough to remember Civil Defense Bomb Shelters. The expectation was that the Russians would nuke the US, which is why the US built bomb shelters and spent more than $10 trillion on its own nukes to dissuade Russia from doing what it continually threatened to do once Russia built its very first nukes.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
When I was 10 years old, 61 years ago
You were 10 years old 15 years ago. Your mom hates you.
Russia keeps making the same old threats to nuke the US, but the US has taken a calm attitude toward Russia. Instead of fearfully building more nukes as a threat to potentially retaliate against Russia, the US is methodically sending weapons to Ukraine to actually retaliate against Russia. Supplying weapons to Ukraine is far cheaper for the US than spending another $10 trillion on building even more nukes targeting Russia. And, unlike the US nukes, these weapons kill Russians right now, almost magically turning bad Russians into dead Russians without the collateral damage of killing Russian children like a nuking Moscow would do:
Putin Tells Russian Ex-Pats to 'Stay Away From Our European Nuclear Bomb Targets'
The Kremlin warned ex-patriots to evacuate areas close to several Russian-assigned European nuclear bomb targets, RadarOnline.com has learned.
In a chilling development to come as Vladimir Putin’s ongoing war against Ukraine continues to escalate, a close ally of the 70-year-old Russian leader suggested that nuclear attacks against Europe may “become necessary” and that Russian expatriates needed to be warned before the potential strikes.
Segey Karaganov, who chairs the Council of Foreign and Defense Policy, also revealed that the Kremlin may approve nuclear strikes as a way to force countries to back down from aiding Ukraine.
Nuclear concerns recently arose after both the United Kingdom and the United States supplied Ukraine with weaponry to combat Putin’s invading Russian forces. Putin is allegedly “offering nuclear weapons” to countries that join the war to help Moscow.
"This is a morally terrible choice – we use the weapons of God, dooming ourselves to severe spiritual losses,” the Putin ally said this week, according to Daily Star. "But if this is not done, not only Russia may perish, but, most likely, the entire human civilization will end."
Karaganov also mocked President Joe Biden and called the U.S. leader the "madman in the White House" who would have no choice but to retaliate against strikes on Europe by sacrificing “Boston for Poznan.” https://www.google.com/search?q=Poznan
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Putin recently heightened nuclear tensions in Europe by moving a number of nukes from Russia into Belarus.
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko intensified the nuclear tensions further after announcing that he would have "no hesitation" in “pushing the big red button” to start a nuclear war, and, most likely, World War III.
"God forbid, I will have to make a decision on the use of these weapons in modern times,” Lukashenko said earlier week. “But there will be no hesitation, if only there is aggression against us."
The United States said Putin’s decision to move nuclear warheads into Belarus, and Lukashenko’s chilling comments, were “irresponsible.”
"It's the latest example of irresponsible behavior that we have seen from Russia since its full-scale invasion of Ukraine over a year ago,” U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.
"We have seen no reason to adjust our strategic nuclear posture or any indications that Russia is preparing to use a nuclear weapon,” he added.
https://radaronline.com/p/vladimir-putin-warns-russians-stay-away-euro
pean-nuclear-bomb-targets/
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This week, Putin again threatens to nuke the West.
The Russian president has threatened or hinted at the possibility of using nuclear weapons so many times since the war in Ukraine began that experts and civilians alike are increasingly ignoring him. An expert on Russia and Ukraine told Insider last year that the president's threats are most likely meant to manipulate global society by sowing confusion and fear.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-warns-west-russian-tactical-nuke
s-being-put-in-belarus-2023-6
Putin has mental problems, as does his apprentice dictator for life Kim Jong Un:
N Korea opens key party meeting to discuss defence
North Korea fired two short-range missiles off its east coast on Thursday, less than an hour after it warned of an “inevitable” response to military drills staged earlier in the day by South Korean and US troops. North Korea has long maintained that such drills threaten its security and are conducted in preparation for a possible invasion of its territory one day.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/17/n-korea-opens-key-party-meeti
ng-to-discuss-defence-diplomacy
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The Russian MoD is attempting to monetarily incentivize the destruction of Ukrainian military equipment, likely to bolster ongoing recruitment efforts and portray Russian forces as capable defenders against Ukrainian attacks. The MoD claimed that it issued payments to over 7,064 Russian military personnel for destroying 4,415 units of Western-made military equipment in Ukraine in 2022. The MoD also claimed that it issued payments of 50,000-300,000 rubles (roughly $598 — $3,593) for intercepting Ukrainian drones, rockets, missiles, and destroying various pieces of Soviet and Western-made equipment.[52] The MoD also claimed that Russian forces are destroying Western-provided tanks in the South Donetsk and Zaporizhia directions, but did not mention the claimed payout per unit.
Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin announced that Russia intends to complete the construction of a 1,400-kilometer highway that will circle around the Sea of Azov in Russian and occupied Ukrainian territories.[60]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-16-2023
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A new poll shows dismal support for Putin’s use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine – a possibility Putin almost immediately reinforced he is considering.
The polling center – considered the most accurate for insights regarding the public reaction to the Kremlin’s increasingly autocratic governance – left open-ended the main question it posed to respondents, who are typically wary of publicly criticizing Putin’s regime.
“Some believe that in order to win in Ukraine Russia must use nuclear weapons, others believe that it is impossible to use nuclear weapons under any circumstances,” it posed, according to a translation. “And which of these points of view do you most adhere to?”
Putin himself, however, expressed on Friday that he remains undeterred by any opposition to the use of any weapons in his arsenals.
“The use of extreme means is possible if there is a threat to Russian statehood. And in this case, of course, we will use all the forces and means at the disposal of the Russian state,” Putin said at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum in response to a question about nuclear weapons use.
And, predictably, he referenced that the U.S. is the only nuclear-armed country to have employed them in battle.
“Such a precedent has been created – created by the United States,” he said, according to a translation.
Western officials and analysts have fretted in recent months about whether to take seriously Putin’s increasingly aggressive nuclear saber-rattling. He has ordered the deployment of strategic nuclear weapons to Belarus, one of its sole remaining loyal post-Soviet allies and has engaged in other provocative behavior, such as deploying ships armed with hypersonic missiles – which U.S. analysts believe could carry a nuclear warhead – into the Atlantic.
Less catastrophic, but equally perilous for Ukraine, others fear that the mere threats of using nuclear weapons could amount to enough to force Kyiv’s allies in Europe to begin backing away from staunch support for its military, particularly as it escalates its spring offensive.
Other analysts tell U.S. News the possibility Putin would use nuclear weapons is remote, but not impossible.
“The likelihood of Russia choosing – or Putin choosing – to use nuclear weapons directly against the West is astronomically low. It should not even be seriously considered at this stage,” Katherine Lawlor, senior intelligence analyst at the independent Institute for the Study of War, which has fastidiously tracked Russia’s military movements since it first invaded Ukraine, said in February.
“Putin would love it if Western leaders believed that he might. He is many things, but he is not suicidal,” Lawlor said. She adds that Putin ultimately does not want war with NATO – particularly given the current state of the Russian army. “He couldn’t even win a conventional war in Ukraine.”
Lawlor adds these circumstances could change if Russia feels it is squarely in a defensive position and needs to prevent “all-out disaster” – a scenario with renewed significance in light of Ukraine’s offensive.
“You have to think about the human response to nuclear use,” she said, describing the effect on a Ukrainian soldier who witnesses a rising mushroom cloud several miles away toward the front lines. “The Russians may assume it would have a devastating effect on the morale of the surviving Ukrainian forces.”
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2023-06-16/russians-
dont-want-putin-to-use-nuclear-weapons-in-ukraine
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Ukraine's 'counteroffenive' must not be going well, eh THUGR?
You just tried to bury this thread by resurrecting at least six... SIX!... pointless necroposts in a row.
I see a whole lot of 'copium' going on. 
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Ukraine's 'counteroffensive' must not be going well, eh THUGR?
You just tried to bury this thread by resurrecting at least six... SIX!... pointless necroposts in a row.
I see a whole lot of 'copium' going on.
Nope, they're still probing. Most of what they have is still in the rears.
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Oh, I see, 'Probing' is what they're calling it.
Remember what I posted? That if a smallish number of troops gets slaughtered they'll call it 'probing', if a larger number of troops gets massacred they'll call it 'reconnaissance in force' and if an even larger force gets creamed they'll call it 'shaping the battlefield'?
With about 7000 men killed and wounded and fifteen pct* of their fancy new western toys taken out of action, that's a mighty expensive 'probe'. If they keep 'probing' like that, seven more tries and they'll have no army left. Literally.
*that's why Zelensky is even now going around Europe and the world begging for more toys.
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EVERYONE knows that Ukraine's 'counteroffensive' has begun. Kiev refusing to call it doesn't fool anyone; after all they still refuse to acknowledge they lost Bakhmut.
Quote:
Ukraine’s counteroffensive is now underway. Here’s what’s happened so far
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/17/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-explain
ed-hnk-intl/index.html
Ukraine’s counteroffensive begins: What do we know so far?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/13/ukraines-counteroffensive-beg
ins-what-do-we-know-so-far
Ukraine's Counteroffensive Is Underway. How It's Going Isn't Clear
https://time.com/6287830/ukraine-counteroffensive-slow-progress/
And yes, Kiev does have more toys in the rear (unless Russia destroys them with distance weapons, that is.) But even Milley has downgraded expectations for what EVERYONE now recognizes is Ukraine's long-awaited 'couteroffensive':
Quote:
Ukraine’s fight a ‘marathon’ not a ‘sprint,’ Secretary of Defense says
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/06/15/ukraines-f
ight-a-marathon-not-a-sprint-secretary-of-defense-says/
USA military not impressed with Ukraine's launching attacks in five different directions, losing lots of donated western weapns in the process. Kiev needs to change tactics.
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Putin Ally Says Nuclear Weapons 'Must' Be Used to Strike NATO Countries
By Andrew Stanton On 6/17/23 at 12:12 PM EDT
"The approach is very simple. I think tactical nuclear weapons will be used, and it is inevitable. I believe that tactical nuclear weapons must be used on the crossings over the Dnieper, on entry points of railroad transport from Western countries which supply arms, on Boryspil," he said.
Solovyov continued to say that Russia should use nuclear weapons against places where Western equipment is being stored to be used by Ukrainian soldiers in countries such as Poland, Germany and Slovakia, as well as places where Ukrainians are being trained—even if those areas are in NATO countries.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-says-nuclear-weapons-must-used-str
ike-nato-countries-1807440
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Russian State TV Guest Says Country Invaded Ukraine To Avoid War
By James Bickerton On 6/17/23 at 7:59 AM EDT
"We were forced to launch this special military operation when the leadership of the country realized that everything was going to happen by June 22.
"That a powerful army would be prepared, in fact, an army of Ukrainian zombies, slaves, that would invade here and there would be a big war. In order not to have this big war they had to start this special military operation."
Markov didn't provide any evidence that Ukraine had been planning to invade Russia, a view almost universally regarded as ludicrous by international relations experts.
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-state-tv-guest-invaded-ukraine-avoid-
war-1807421
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Putin: I can destroy any building in Kyiv city centre, but I won't. Why? I will not say
Putin assures that he can "destroy any building in the centre of Kyiv" without nuclear weapons, but does not do this "for a number of reasons"; yet, the Russian dictator refused to reveal those reasons.
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Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.
Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?
I can guess. Maybe you can't.
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Republican senator mentions nuclear strikes when asked about possible US action against Russia (2021)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roger-wi
cker-ukraine-russia-nuclear-b1971691.html
President Zelensky Suggests Ukraine May Pursue Nuclear Weapons To Counter Russia, Putin Responds (2022)
https://www.dailywire.com/news/president-zelensky-suggests-ukraine-may
-pursue-nuclear-weapons-to-counter-russia-putin-responds
Senior fellow at major think-tank American Enterprise Institute wants to give tactical nukes to Ukraine
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Can Biden Deter a Russia Nuclear Attack on Ukraine? Yes, if He Gives Ukraine Tactical Nukes (June 12, 2023)
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/can-biden-deter-a-russia-nuclear-attack-on-
ukraine-yes-if-he-gives-ukraine-tactical-nukes/
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Quote:If Putin was a useful man, he would not be following the path that Kim Jong Un of North Korea follows in making NK citizens poor compared to South Koreans. Instead, Putin would be following the Canadian path which made Canadian citizens richer than United States citizens. See below, where the median Canadian is richer than the median American. If Canada can do it, Russia could do it better, but Putin's path is definitely not helping Russian citizens.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.
Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?
I can guess. Maybe you can't.
List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133
Russia $6,919
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Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.
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Quote:Time will tell if your prediction is correct, but Canada took a path to more wealth for citizens than Russia or US. Canada did this without war, without nukes, and without becoming a new pole in the Russian multipolar world.
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Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.
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Yeah, that whole concept of not spending on WAR? This is where our tax dollars are hemorrhaging.
Now, Canada and many EU nations got away with spending their budgets on social programs instead bc we were hemorrhaging money on weapons. (Stupid, dysfunctional, expen$ive weapons, but everybody was entranced with the idea of the USA being the mightiest military in the world, and budgeted accordingly.)
That's what we get for trying to control everyone, everywhere.
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Yeah.
I keep telling everyone that Justina Tredeau and whoever is currently running the shitshow called Mexico would have to shut their fucking mouths up tight if they didn't have Daddy US Military on their borders.
The same goes for everyone in Europe too. NATO and the UN wouldn't even exist if we didn't go into even more debt that will never be paid off every single year for military expenses.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If Putin was a useful man, he would not be following the path that Kim Jong Un of North Korea follows in making NK citizens poor compared to South Koreans. Instead, Putin would be following the Canadian path which made Canadian citizens richer than United States citizens. See below, where the median Canadian is richer than the median American. If Canada can do it, Russia could do it better, but Putin's path is definitely not helping Russian citizens.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.
Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?
I can guess. Maybe you can't.
List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133
Russia $6,919
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Second finally learned the lesson I tried many times to teach him and he used median instead of mean.
Good doggy.
Only $93k in the US, huh? Sad.
I'm freakin' killing it. Especially for a guy who hasn't worked since summer of 2019.
Just call me Iceleand.
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Actually, we should be looking at modal income and modal wealth (i.e. where most people are,"typical"). If you were to plot (for example) number of people on the vertical axis against income on the horizontal axis, you would find at least one peak.
The typical family gets appx $20,000 in income.
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The New York Times (NYT) released a report supporting ISW’s prior assessment that Russian forces most likely destroyed the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam.[22] NYT cited multiple US and Ukrainian engineering experts who examined diagrams of the KHPP dam, imagery of the destroyed dam foundation, footage of the initial breach, and seismic data. The experts determined that the degree of damage to the dam’s internal structures is consistent with an explosion from within the dam’s internal structures rather than from prior damage. NYT also quoted a senior US military official as saying that the US ruled out an external attack, such as from a missile, rocket, or other projectile, as causing the explosion, and that the US believes that Russian forces most likely caused the internal explosion that caused the dam’s collapse. ISW has assessed since the destruction of the KHPP dam on June 6 that the preponderance of available evidence, reasoning, and rhetoric suggests that Russian forces deliberately damaged the dam.[23]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-17-2023
An Inside Job
By James Glanz, Marc Santora, Pablo Robles, Haley Willis, Lauren Leatherby, Christoph Koettl and Dmitriy Khavin, June 16, 2023
A dam in Ukraine was designed to withstand almost any attack imaginable — from the outside. The evidence suggests Russia blew it up from within.
Deep inside the dam was an Achilles’ heel. And because the dam was built during Soviet times, Moscow had every page of the engineering drawings and knew where it was. The dam was built with an enormous concrete block as its foundation. A small passageway runs through it, reachable from the dam's machine room. It was in this passageway, the evidence suggests, that an explosive charge detonated and destroyed the dam. At 2:35 a.m on June 6, seismic sensors in Ukraine and Romania detected the telltale signs of large explosions. As the water levels further dropped this week, they fell below the top of the concrete foundation. The section that collapsed was not visible above the water line — strong evidence that the foundation had suffered structural damage, engineers said. In the chaotic aftermath, with each side blaming the other for the collapse, multiple explanations are theoretically possible. But the evidence clearly suggests the dam was crippled by an explosion set off by the side that controls it: Russia. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20230617202758/https://www.nytimes.com/int
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Quote:Signym, I believe that looking only at how many $billions the US spends on defense is absolutely the wrong way to look at what went wrong with the US.
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Yeah, that whole concept of not spending on WAR? This is where our tax dollars are hemorrhaging.
Now, Canada and many EU nations got away with spending their budgets on social programs instead bc we were hemorrhaging money on weapons. (Stupid, dysfunctional, expen$ive weapons, but everybody was entranced with the idea of the USA being the mightiest military in the world, and budgeted accordingly.)
That's what we get for trying to control everyone, everywhere.
Defense spending as a percentage of gdp gives a different and better answer.
https://www.google.com/search?q=defense+spending+percentage+of+gdp
List of countries by military expenditures ($ billions) and gdp %
0 World total $2,240 2.2% 100%
1 US $877.0 3.5% 39%
2 China $292.0 1.6% 13%
3 Russia $86.4 4.1% 3.9%
4 India $81.4 2.4% 3.6%
5 Saudi Arabia $75.0 7.4% 3.3%
6 UK $68.5 2.2% 3.1%
7 Germany $55.8 1.4% 2.5%
8 France $53.6 1.9% 2.4%
9 S Korea $46.4 2.7% 2.1%
10 Japan $46.0 1.1% 2.1%
11 Ukraine $44.0 34% 2.0%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditur
es
The US spends 3.5% of gdp on defense and Ukraine spends 34%
If you were spending 3.5% of your income on alcohol and drinking it all, it would seriously addle your brain and lower your income (cutting it in half or worse) because of hangovers. But if you poured the alcohol down the drain or gave it to friends who are alcoholics rather than drinking it yourself, your life would be almost unaffected by wasting 3.5% of your income. Every time the US spent 3.5% of gdp to send US troops overseas, the entire US got a hangover. See the Iraq War or the Afghanistan War for recent examples. It is much better to NOT send US troops. Send US money instead and avoid the terrible hangover.
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why send either troops or money?
Are not many of these other nations that receive our foreign aid, troops, and/or protection themselves prosperous, developed nations able to look after their own national security? As I recall, that was the reason for Trump's inisistance that the NATO nations pay at least 2.2 pct of their GDP into military spending. After all, an aliance is supposed to be about MUTUAL defense, not giving 32 other nations a free ride forever.
Altho IMHO NATO has morphed into an aggressive entity not a muual defense pact.
It should be reduced and reconstituted, and ALL member nations should be equally responsible for defense.
In addition, every single one of our deployments has been to fight as aggessors on foreign soil. The USA has not fought a war to defend itself since the War of 1812. Or, some would say, the Civil War. What did the FF say about avoiding foreign entanglements?
Anyway, to get to prosperity for a moment: IMHO a nation cant be TRULY properous unless it has a productive, balanced economy as much as it is able. And that means ... yes, actually prosucing things. Tons of steel. Tons of grain. Barrels of oil, cubic meters of gas, tons of cement, chips, fertilizer, basic industrial chemicals, pharamceuticals, wood products, textiles, whatever it can produce it should. Many nations bc of historical accident are too small and have too few resources to be even modestly self sufficient; Japan and Cuba for example lack nearly every critical resource necessary for a modern economy. The USA, Russia, Canada, India and Brazil tho have great promise.
USA elites ditched production in favor of financialism, where costs are lower and returns are higher. Altho technically richer, if you discount non-productive entries int our GDP like the 'value' homeowners MIGHT receive IF they were torent their homes (yes, such bullshit really does enter into our so-called 'GDP') or look at purchasing power parity (PPP) or modal living standards, the USA doesnt stack up so hot
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Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.
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Quote:Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes? Because those Russian threats cost the US at least $10 trillion for its own nukes to deter Russia from nuking the US? Or because Russia deserves a pummeling? For example:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?
She thought she was unshockable, then two castrated Ukrainian soldiers arrived
Sexual violence against men is an under-reported part of the Ukraine war. A psychologist describes the impact on her patients of their torture by Russians
https://archive.is/2023.06.17-184144/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/articl
e/4561e12a-0d14-11ee-aa7c-6e26d8c3ad9b
There have been multiple reports of this, even since 2014 when they invaded Donetsk region. And same happened in Georgia in 2008 and Chechnya in the 90s. Afghanistan, Syria, African countries….the list goes on.
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Russian occupation officials are continuing to prioritize medical treatment for Russian military personnel in occupied Mariupol, reportedly significantly increasing the civilian mortality rate in the city. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on June 18 that the civilian mortality rate in Mariupol from “natural” causes significantly intensified to a peak of 400 deaths per week – 2.6 times higher than Ukraine’s national mortality rate during the peak of the Covid-19 pandemic. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported that Mariupol has no functional medical system because all medical facilities are treating Russian military personnel. Russian forces have consistently used civilian medical infrastructure in occupied Ukraine for their own needs, and are struggling to compensate for the resulting shortage in available healthcare personnel and beds.[50]
A Wall Street Journal (WSJ) interview with Russian prisoners of war (POWs) indicates continued significant morale and command issues among frontline Russian units and the continued Russian use of “barrier forces” to shoot retreating soldiers.[11] WSJ amplified the statements of three unidentified Russian POWs who voluntarily surrendered to Ukrainian forces during Ukrainian counteroffensive operations near Velyka Novosilka, on the administrative border between Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts. The POWs reported widespread fear of a Ukrainian counteroffensive among Russian forces on the frontlines. The POWs indicated that the Russian military command sees Russian conscripts and penal recruits as expendable, and claimed Russian officers order injured personnel deemed unfit for service back to the front line and use “barrier forces” to prevent penal recruits in “Storm-Z” units from retreating. Barrier forces are specialized units that threaten to shoot their own personnel either to prevent retreats or to force them to attack, and unverified social media footage recently circulated depicting Russian barrier troops shooting retreating Russian forces in Ukraine.[12] The POWs also indicated that Russian forces struggle to supply and staff their units, including struggling to crew tanks and armored vehicles.[13] The POWs expressed concern about returning to Russia in a POW exchange due to Russian laws prohibiting voluntary surrender to the enemy.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-18-2023
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Russian spy chief flags 'suspicious' Ukrainian nuclear activity
(Reuters) - One of Russia's top spymasters said on Monday he hoped that the U.N. nuclear watchdog and the European Union would look into Ukrainian nuclear activity that he said might signal Kyiv was working on a "dirty bomb".
Sergei Naryshkin, the head of Russia's SVR foreign intelligence service, did not provide documentary evidence to back his assertions.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-spy-chief-flags-suspiciou
s-ukrainian-nuclear-activity/ar-AA1cK8Hu?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e2a005c948ec4b54a85f5bcc0e2472d5&ei=102
We all know this means Russia is considering using one themselves. This is about deflecting blame to Ukraine. Isn't that right comrade signym?
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Fuck Ukraine.
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Quote:6ix, you should assign to one key the following sentences: "Trump will be fine. LOL. Fuck Ukraine. Trump will be your next President." Making your responses a single keystroke will save you hours per year.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.
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Quote:WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?
SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?
Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.
BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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Quote:Firefly has lessons on how to handle Russians. Did you see Serenity? The big moment in Serenity was River standing on a pile of dead Reavers. Think Reavers as Russians. River did not capture the Russians and assign them POW status. River didn't contact the International Criminal Court prosecutors and present evidence that the Russians were guilty of War Crimes. Instead, River methodically killed all Russians. Nobody but the Russians would mourn the Russians passing away because Russians are horrible people who have killed tens of millions of Russians and also killed millions of innocent people who aren't Russian. Signym, if you keep insisting the Russians are not murderers, you are worse than a Russian. The Russians will die as Ukrainians slaughter the Russian horde because Russians don't listen to reason, Russians are trying to grow wealthy by stealing Ukrainian land, Russians won't stop murdering people, and Russians can no more stop lying than Signym can. Obviously, a movie like Serenity would not sell many tickets to Russians if the Russians understood that River Tam is extremely prejudiced against people behaving as Russians behave. Renaming the Russians as Reavers doesn't obscure what the movie is about.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?
SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?
Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.
BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll
Serenity's METASCORE = 76
Generally favorable reviews based on 34 Critic Reviews
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/serenity
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You believe in fantasy?
Troll.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Firefly has lessons on how to handle Russians. Did you see Serenity? The big moment in Serenity was River standing on a pile of dead Reavers. Think Reavers as Russians. River did not capture the Russians and assign them POW status. River didn't contact the International Criminal Court prosecutors and present evidence that the Russians were guilty of War Crimes. Instead, River methodically killed all Russians. Nobody but the Russians would mourn the Russians passing away because Russians are horrible people who have killed tens of millions of Russians and also killed millions of innocent people who aren't Russian. Signym, if you keep insisting the Russians are not murderers, you are worse than a Russian. The Russians will die as Ukrainians slaughter the Russian horde because Russians don't listen to reason, Russians are trying to grow wealthy by stealing Ukrainian land, Russians won't stop murdering people, and Russians can no more stop lying than Signym can. Obviously, a movie like Serenity would not sell many tickets to Russians if the Russians understood that River Tam is extremely prejudiced against people behaving as Russians behave.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?
SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?
Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.
BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll
Racist.
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Quote:Fantasy is Putin's entire oeuvre. Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov recently announced the good news: Ukraine has been demilitarized! Here are his exact words:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You believe in fantasy?
Troll.
“Indeed, Ukraine was heavily militarized at the time of the beginning of the Special Military Operation. And, as Putin said yesterday, one of the tasks was to demilitarize Ukraine. In fact, this task is largely completed. Ukraine is using less and less of its weapons. And more and more it uses the weapons systems that Western countries supply it with.”
Peskov’s is a strikingly bizarre interpretation of demilitarization. True, Ukraine has used up much of the equipment and ammunition that hailed from Soviet days. Equally true, it’s been the recipient of far more effective and modern and NATO-compatible weapons systems from the fifty-plus countries in the Ramstein group.
Just how this amounts to demilitarization, especially at a time when Ukraine has launched what appears to be a successful counteroffensive, is unclear.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putins-big-lie-might-be-a-scheme-
to-exit-the-ukraine-war/ar-AA1cK49k
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