Uggh... Barbie looks awful (and Oppenheimer is too long)
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But to its credit, Barbie DOES appear to have an actual story with acts, clearly separating it from any similarly woke schlock that Disney has put out in recent years.
Personally, I don't see what all the hype about this movie OR Oppenheimer is all about.
Bruce says "The long awaited release of Barbie and Oppenheimer is finally here. The pair, fondly referred to by the moniker, “Barbenheimer” is poised to headline one of the biggest movie-going weekends in a few years."
Why?
Barbie isn't going to be taking anybody away from SoF or MI7. The only overlap I could see at all would be a guy who wanted to see MI7 on a date but caved to the wishes of the girlfriend who wanted to see Barbie instead. Poor dudes. I think Barbie will probably crush what was left of the rest of the movies on the top 10 list for the next few weeks.
Being a Biopic, Oppenheimer will probably have some overlap in the group that would see SoF. But 3 hours long? Yikes. I've heard complaints that Dead Reckoning is too long, and yeah, at 2 hours and 45 minutes it certainly is. But at least that won't feel like you're doing homework like sitting through Oppenheimer without the ability to get up to stretch and take a leak without missing anything will.
I might be wrong, but I'm going to come right out against the tide and say that neither of these movies is going to be the 2023 box office saviors that the critics and Twitter bots are saying that they will be.
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'Long' should not be so much of a problem if you have seen other long films, Dances With Wolves, LOTR, Seven Samurai, Interstellar, Carpenter's The Thing remake, The Deer Hunter, Avatar, Doctor Zhivago, Fiddler on the Roof, Ben-Hur, Avengers End Game, The Right Stuff, Last of the Mohicans, Gone With the Wind.
the perception of 'Long' can also be a matter of perspective I sometimes find 1 hour 20 min films to feel too long, I have never finished the Oscar winning 'The English Patient' I might only have seen 20mins or half an hour of it on tv but everytime those 20 mins it felt like 4 hours 'Long'
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'Long' should not be so much of a problem if you have seen other long films, Dances With Wolves, LOTR, Seven Samurai, Interstellar, Carpenter's The Thing remake, The Deer Hunter, Avatar, Doctor Zhivago, Fiddler on the Roof, Ben-Hur, Avengers End Game, The Right Stuff, Last of the Mohicans, Gone With the Wind.
the perception of 'Long' can also be a matter of perspective I sometimes find 1 hour 20 min films to feel too long, I have never finished the Oscar winning 'The English Patient' I might only have seen 20mins or half an hour of it on tv but everytime those 20 mins it felt like 4 hours 'Long'
"Long" isn't a big deal when you're at home and you can pause and and/or go back to something you missed.
One of the problems with modern cinema is how long they've been making the movies. Since Nolan is making the movie, there's a fairly decent chance that a 3 hour runtime is justified. Many movies today with 2.5 to 3 hour or more run times are not justified though, and there was lazy editing and/or a director that thought what they did was a lot better than it actually was. Of the few movies I've watched out of the last 5 to 10 years, quite a few of them were long movies. And even being at home while watching them, they felt far too long and easily had 20 minutes to a half-hour that could have been removed without sacrificing the quality of the flick. In fact, the long run time actually brought the movies down in most cases.
Leave the long run times for a director's cut that die hard fans will want to pay money to see after the fact. 2 hours is already pushing it. 3 hours in a cinema with no intermission is miserable.
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I weep for humanity...
According to The Numbers, Barbie made $22,300,000 in previews on Thursday. The only movie to beat that in 2023 was Super Mario Bros with over $31 Million.
Nobody else was even close, with Guardians 3 and Ant Man 3 making $17.5 Million and Miles Morales 2 making $17.35 Million.
Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side. At least people are telling Disney and WB that they're tired of superhero flicks anyhow.
Oppenheimer, meanwhile, made a much more modest $10,500,000 which is about what I expected either of these films to make in previews.
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Quote:Well....
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I weep for humanity...
According to The Numbers, Barbie made $22,300,000 in previews on Thursday. The only movie to beat that in 2023 was Super Mario Bros with over $31 Million.
Nobody else was even close, with Guardians 3 and Ant Man 3 making $17.5 Million and Miles Morales 2 making $17.35 Million.
Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side. At least people are telling Disney and WB that they're tired of superhero flicks anyhow.
Oppenheimer, meanwhile, made a much more modest $10,500,000 which is about what I expected either of these films to make in previews.
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You mean the $ from Wed showtimes plus Thurs showtimes.
I can believe the $ from Wed were about $7M, and then Thurs would be about $14M.
That would explain the $7M missing from average Wed total Box Office.
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Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side.
'Here's how they launched the Barbie movie in Madrid'
https://gettr.com/post/p2mj7ckce60
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Well....
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I weep for humanity...
According to The Numbers, Barbie made $22,300,000 in previews on Thursday. The only movie to beat that in 2023 was Super Mario Bros with over $31 Million.
Nobody else was even close, with Guardians 3 and Ant Man 3 making $17.5 Million and Miles Morales 2 making $17.35 Million.
Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side. At least people are telling Disney and WB that they're tired of superhero flicks anyhow.
Oppenheimer, meanwhile, made a much more modest $10,500,000 which is about what I expected either of these films to make in previews.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
You mean the $ from Wed showtimes plus Thurs showtimes.
I can believe the $ from Wed were about $7M, and then Thurs would be about $14M.
That would explain the $7M missing from average Wed total Box Office.
There's no evidence of this.
If that were the case, Barbie would have been a Thursday release instead of a Friday release.
And if they were taking money for Barbie since Wednesday night, that means that SoF was not number 1 in the Box Office for Thursday.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side.
'Here's how they launched the Barbie movie in Madrid'
https://gettr.com/post/p2mj7ckce60
Weird. The freaks are out.
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Quote:Or you could read in two minutes the article about Oppenheimer and avoid the biopic. Here is the heart of the article and the movie:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Being a Biopic, Oppenheimer will probably have some overlap in the group that would see SoF. But 3 hours long? Yikes. I've heard complaints that Dead Reckoning is too long, and yeah, at 2 hours and 45 minutes it certainly is. But at least that won't feel like you're doing homework like sitting through Oppenheimer without the ability to get up to stretch and take a leak without missing anything will.
Oppenheimer’s chief contribution was as camp counselor of Los Alamos.
Oppenheimer encouraged them on, and his charisma cast a sort of spell over the campers. It is no coincidence that much of the serious thinking about the bomb — morally and politically — happened elsewhere, in Chicago under Leo Szilard or in the giant head of the Danish genius Niels Bohr. Oppenheimer whipped them up with a simple message: we need to get the bomb before Hitler.
As it turns out, this was all mistaken. We now know that the Nazis had decided against a nuclear fission program by 1942. Nazi planners needed raw materials and manpower for armaments production, and Nazi scientists thought a bomb couldn’t be delivered in time to affect the war in Europe, which very much proved to be the case. So the Manhattan Project did not in fact deter, and did not need to deter, Hitler from developing and using the bomb. The scientists were working based on a mistake.
The main effect of the Manhattan Project was to bring forward in time the era of the bomb and the era of the nuclear arms race. The existential risk researcher Toby Ord calls this era “the Precipice”: the first period in which humanity can destroy itself. The US would likely not have “sprinted” to the same extent, spending 0.4 percent of GDP, for a peacetime Manhattan Project. And Oppenheimer’s nemesis Lewis Strauss may have been right, if for the wrong reasons, when he accused Oppenheimer of helping the Soviet nuclear program. Quite simply, it would have taken the Soviets years longer if they couldn’t just copy the secrets of the Manhattan Project. Szilard and Albert Einstein, whose 1939 letter prompted President Franklin Roosevelt to begin the US nuclear program, later described their advocacy for the project as the greatest mistake of their life.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/7/22/23803380/j-robert-oppenhe
imer-film-movie-nuclear-weapons-manhattan-project-world-war-ii-christopher-nolan
Still here? The article continues: This was not simply an honest mistake. Joseph Rotblat — the only scientist to resign from the Manhattan Project — got a nasty shock in May 1944 when, at a dinner, Groves said, “You realize, of course, that the main purpose of this project is to subdue the Russians.” Later, Groves testified that “there was never, from about two weeks from the time I took charge of this Project, any illusion on my part but that Russia was our enemy.” It is hard to reconcile this bloodlessness with Matt Damon’s blithe face as Groves in Christopher Nolan’s film.
How complicit was Oppenheimer? David Hawkins, Oppenheimer’s aide and the Manhattan Project’s official historian, claims that Groves told Oppenheimer at the end of 1943 that the Nazis had abandoned their attempt — and Oppenheimer shrugged. Was the bomb just too “technically sweet” for Oppenheimer to resist?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:regmovies.com/static/en/us/promotions/barbie-pink-popcorn
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Well....
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I weep for humanity...
According to The Numbers, Barbie made $22,300,000 in previews on Thursday. The only movie to beat that in 2023 was Super Mario Bros with over $31 Million.
Nobody else was even close, with Guardians 3 and Ant Man 3 making $17.5 Million and Miles Morales 2 making $17.35 Million.
Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side. At least people are telling Disney and WB that they're tired of superhero flicks anyhow.
Oppenheimer, meanwhile, made a much more modest $10,500,000 which is about what I expected either of these films to make in previews.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
You mean the $ from Wed showtimes plus Thurs showtimes.
I can believe the $ from Wed were about $7M, and then Thurs would be about $14M.
That would explain the $7M missing from average Wed total Box Office.
There's no evidence of this.
If that were the case, Barbie would have been a Thursday release instead of a Friday release.
And if they were taking money for Barbie since Wednesday night, that means that SoF was not number 1 in the Box Office for Thursday.
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https://www.regmovies.com/static/en/us/promotions/barbie-pink-popcorn
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Oppenheimer’s folly: On black holes, fundamental laws and pure and applied science
On September 1, 1939, the same day that Germany attacked Poland and started World War 2, a remarkable paper appeared in the pages of the journal Physical Review.
By Ashutosh Jogalekar on June 26, 2014
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/oppenhei
mer-8217-s-folly-on-black-holes-fundamental-laws-and-pure-and-applied-science/
On September 1, 1939, the same day that Germany attacked Poland and started World War 2, a remarkable paper appeared in the pages of the journal Physical Review. In it J. Robert Oppenheimer and his student Hartland Snyder laid out the essential characteristics of what we today call the black hole. Building on work done by Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, Fritz Zwicky and Lev Landau, Oppenheimer and Snyder described how an infalling observer on the surface of an object whose mass exceeded a critical mass would appear to be in a state of perpetual free fall to an outsider. The paper was the culmination of two years of work and followed two other articles in the same journal.
Then Oppenheimer forgot all about it and never said anything about black holes for the rest of his life.
He had not worked on black holes before 1938, and he would not do so ever again. Ironically, it is this brief contribution to physics that is now widely considered to be Oppenheimer’s greatest, enough to have possibly warranted him a Nobel Prize had he lived long enough to see experimental evidence for black holes show up with the advent of radio astronomy.
What happened? Oppenheimer’s lack of interest wasn’t just because he became the director of the Manhattan Project a few years later and got busy with building the atomic bomb. It also wasn't because he despised the free-thinking and eccentric Zwicky who had laid the foundations for the field through the discovery of black holes' parents - neutron stars. It wasn’t even because he achieved celebrity status after the war, became the most powerful scientist in the country and spent an inordinate amount of time consulting in Washington until his carefully orchestrated downfall in 1954. All these factors contributed, but the real reason was something else entirely – Oppenheimer just wasn’t interested in black holes. Even after his downfall, when he had plenty of time to devote to physics, he never talked or wrote about them. The creator of black holes basically did not think they mattered.
Oppenheimer’s rejection of one of the most fascinating implications of modern physics and one of the most enigmatic objects in the universe - and one he sired - is documented well by Freeman Dyson who tried to initiate conversations about the topic with him. Every time Dyson brought it up Oppenheimer would change the subject, almost as if he had disowned his own scientific children.
The reason, as attested to by Dyson and others who knew him, was that in his last few decades Oppenheimer was stricken by a disease which I call “fundamentalitis”. Fundamentalitis is a serious condition that causes its victims to believe that the only thing worth thinking about is the deep nature of reality as manifested through the fundamental laws of physics.
As Dyson put it:
“Oppenheimer in his later years believed that the only problem worthy of the attention of a serious theoretical physicist was the discovery of the fundamental equations of physics. Einstein certainly felt the same way. To discover the right equations was all that mattered. Once you had discovered the right equations, then the study of particular solutions of the equations would be a routine exercise for second-rate physicists or graduate students.”
Thus for Oppenheimer, black holes, which were particular solutions of general relativity, were mundane; the general theory itself was the real deal. In addition they were anomalies, ugly exceptions which were best ignored rather than studied. As Dyson mentions, unfortunately Oppenheimer was not the only one affected by this conditi
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Quantum Mechanics also gave us the computing chip
In our pop culture 'Atomics' can be part of 2 cultural messages, the happy kid message in a toon the 'Jetsons' opportunity and cartoonish fun of the Nuclear age and the other cultural side you have video game culture like Fallout which show a Fantasy horror scifi Terminator landscape.
In our world today Nuclear Weapons still proliferate as we see by Putin spreading missiles to Belarus, the opportunity for Power changes, pipelines bombed, political sanction in place because of Russian invasion of Ukraine, Green party wanted Germans to go back to bicycles and confusion as Germany goes back to coal.
With the power of the atom unleashed how has it gone backwards?
There is a guy who appears in social media, not a true expert but in math, physics, the sciences of the cosmos and quantum mechanics circles,
'Eric R Weinstein'
Who claims humanity or the West is stagnating, chasing its own tail with philosophy and claims man has not discovered anything real and applicable or a truly original practical science since the 60s and 1970s.
politically maybe he has a bone to pick
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1682256347029438464
During the past few crazy Left vs Right year, Conservative vs Liberalism years his brother also got censored
Eric Weinstein is not a big fan of the new 'String Theory' guys
https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1681516386307194880
Nuke proliferation is a horror scene of spreading nuclear weapons, nuclear technology, fissionable material and nuclear weapons-making information to countries, Kingdoms or groups that do not already possess them.
Nuke power isn't always terrible a natural source of Nuke energy is our shining Sun, Regulated Nuclear power like 'Thorium' or Fusion might fix the world's energy needs.
Eric Ross Weinstein not an astronomer or nuclear physics guy but an American hedge fund director and podcast host.
He is very controversial in politics
on another controversial radio show 'Joe Rogan'
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Weird. The freaks are out.
90%
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/oppenheimer
96% on Rotten Tomatoes
movie Barbie is 80 maybe
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/barbie
Barbie not sure about its RT but currently holds a % positive rating
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:regmovies.com/static/en/us/promotions/barbie-pink-popcorn
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Well....
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I weep for humanity...
According to The Numbers, Barbie made $22,300,000 in previews on Thursday. The only movie to beat that in 2023 was Super Mario Bros with over $31 Million.
Nobody else was even close, with Guardians 3 and Ant Man 3 making $17.5 Million and Miles Morales 2 making $17.35 Million.
Gross.
Well... let's try to look at the bright side. At least people are telling Disney and WB that they're tired of superhero flicks anyhow.
Oppenheimer, meanwhile, made a much more modest $10,500,000 which is about what I expected either of these films to make in previews.
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How you do anything is how you do everything.
You mean the $ from Wed showtimes plus Thurs showtimes.
I can believe the $ from Wed were about $7M, and then Thurs would be about $14M.
That would explain the $7M missing from average Wed total Box Office.
There's no evidence of this.
If that were the case, Barbie would have been a Thursday release instead of a Friday release.
And if they were taking money for Barbie since Wednesday night, that means that SoF was not number 1 in the Box Office for Thursday.
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https://www.regmovies.com/static/en/us/promotions/barbie-pink-popcorn
Okay. Lucky for SoF they didn't consider that a Thursday release then so it could get one last day in 1st place.
Regardless, this woke turd made over $70 Million by Friday night. That's more than any other movie in 2023, including Super Mario Bros.
It appears that Hollywood did learn a lesson this year. But it wasn't the right one.
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Barbie has a Transexual Shemale Transgender barbie 'Hari Nef'
Anti-LGBTQ Preacher Calls for Holy Judgment Against “Barbie”
https://www.metroweekly.com/2023/07/anti-lgbtq-preacher-calls-for-holy
-judgment-against-barbie-movie/
'Oppenheimer' movie review: Nolan’s bleak biopic is measured and masterful
https://www.indulgexpress.com/entertainment/cinema/2023/jul/22/oppenhe
imer-movie-review-nolansbleak-biopicis-measured-and-masterful-51271.html
weekly
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekly/
international charts
https://www.the-numbers.com/international-charts-overview
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Oppenheimer Ending
Now, however, comes the key moment, and the one that strikes the dark note that the film closes on. As Einstein turns to leave, Oppenheimer reminds him of an earlier conversation they had before the testing of the first atom bomb, when the Manhattan Project physicists were worried that the chain reaction caused by the atomic bomb might never end — that it could proceed to ignite the Earth’s atmosphere and destroy the planet.
“When I came to you with those calculations,” Oppenheimer tells Einstein, “we thought we might start a chain reaction that might destroy the entire world.”
“What of it?” Einstein asks.
“I believe we did,” Oppenheimer says.
As the camera closes in on his face, we cut to an array of modern-day nuclear missiles. (Look fast, and you might notice a sliver of Oppenheimer’s telltale silhouette in the corner of the frame.) Drifting among the clouds, we see vapor trails of nukes being fired through the air. We then see Oppenheimer, stuck inside a plane, watching the night sky lit up with rockets passing above — an image tied to a memory earlier in the film from David Dastmalchian’s William Borden, who recalled being in a plane watching German V-2 rockets headed toward England. We see explosions across the surface of the planet, their blast radiuses unspeakably vast. Then, a ring of fire begins to consume the Earth. The very last image of the film is Oppenheimer’s face in extreme close-up, staring at the droplets in the pond, and closing his eyes. Perceptive viewers might realize that these final frames echo the movie’s opening images, which were of the young Oppenheimer in close-up, looking at droplets of rain in a small pool of water.
It’s an astonishingly powerful ending, in part because it gives grim cinematic life to the generational fear that nukes are effectively Chekhov’s gun: a weapon introduced in an earlier act of our lives that will inevitably be used before our story ends. Nolan, like many of us, grew up under the specter of thermonuclear annihilation. It’s an old, defining fear that has been dormant in recent years, but it’s never really gone away, has it? Recent events in Russia and Ukraine have served as grisly reminders that we all remain just a hair trigger away from incinerating ourselves in a nuclear holocaust.
So, that’s the ultra-nihilistic reading. I did ask Nolan whether he’d anticipated this kind of reaction to the finale. “It’s the response I’d hoped for in terms of the strength of the reaction,” he said. “That specificity certainly wasn’t my intention.” Nolan doesn’t want to send messages with his work, and he’s adamant about never being didactic. But he did want, he says “a strong set of troubling reverberations at the end. And I felt strongly that if I did my job right, those would land differently with each individual watching the film and different audiences.”
“The whole film is about consequences. The delayed onset of consequences that people often forget.” — Christopher Nolan
https://www.vulture.com/article/oppenheimer-ending-explained-christoph
er-nolan.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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WARNING: It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
It's been out like two days dude.
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Barbie scores 07/23
Rotten Tomatoes:
All Critics: 90%
Top Critics 91%
Verified Audience: 90%
All Audience: 74%
IMDB:
7.6/10
Metacritic:
Critics: 80/100
Users: 5.6/100
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Lyrics to a "family friendly kids movie" in 2023...
Barbie World - Nicki Minaj and Ice Spice
I'm always yours (stop playin' with 'em, RIOT)
Ooh whoa
And I'm bad like the Barbie (Barbie)
I'm a doll, but I still wanna party (party)
Pink 'Vette like I'm ready to bend (bend)
I'm a ten, so I pull in a Ken
Like Jazzie, Stacie, Nicki (grrah)
All of the Barbies is pretty (damn)
All of the Barbies is bad
It girls (It girls) and we ain't playin' tag (grrah)
Rad (rad), but he spank me when I get bad
I'm in LA, Rodeo Drive (Drive)
I'm in New York, Madison Ave
I'm a Barbie girl (girl), Pink Barbie Dreamhouse
The way Ken be killin' shit, got me yellin' out like the Scream house (woo)
Yellin' out, we ain't sellin' out
We got money, but we ain't lendin' out
We got bars, but we ain't bailin' out
In that pink Ferrari, we peelin' out
I told Tae bring the Bob Dylan out
That pussy so cold, we just chillin' out
They be yellin', yellin', ye-yellin' out
It's Barbie, bitch, if you still in doubt (ooh)
And I'm bad like the Barbie (Barbie)
I'm a doll, but I still wanna party (party)
Pink 'Vette like I'm ready to bend (bend)
I'm a ten, so I pull in a Ken
Like Jazzie, Stacie, Nicki (grrah)
All of the Barbies is pretty (damn)
All of the Barbies is bad
It girls (It girls) and we ain't playin' tag (grrah)
Barbie ain't nothin' to play 'bout
He wanna play in the playhouse (playhouse)
The fuck they gon' say now? (Grrah)
I'm washin' these bitches, I'm rubbin' the stain out
Like I'm ready to bend (grrah)
All the fake Barbies just wanna pretend (like)
Like hold on, let me go find me a pen (grrah)
Look where it led, now I'ma put it to bed
She a Barbie bitch with her Barbie clique (grrah)
I keep draggin' her, so she bald a bit (damn)
And I see the bread, I want all of it (damn)
And I want the green, so I olive it (grrah)
And I throw it back, so he losin' it (like)
And I give the box with no shoes in it (damn)
Yeah, I know the trick, so I got him bricked (damn)
Yeah, they know who lit, me and Barbie, bitch
And I'm bad like the Barbie (Barbie)
I'm a doll, but I still wanna party (party)
Pink 'Vette like I'm ready to bend (bend)
I'm a ten, so I pull in a Ken
Like Jazzie, Stacie, Nicki (grrah)
All of the Barbies is pretty (damn)
All of the Barbies is bad
It girls (It girls) and we ain't playin' tag (grrah)
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination
Sounds about right.
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Quote:“The whole film is about consequences. The delayed onset of consequences that people often forget.” — Christopher Nolan
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
WARNING: It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
It's been out like two days dude.
About consequences. 6ix, you smoke. So did Oppenheimer. Smoking killed him early in life. With all his intelligence, he didn't anticipate that death, but he should have. He didn't anticipate the $10 trillion the USA would spend on nuclear weapons but he should have since there were plenty of previous examples of weapon manufacturing expanding as fast as humans could build them.
Several comments about spoilers, as in IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SPOIL OPPENHEIMER UNLESS YOU ARE AN IDIOT WHO KNOWS NOTHING, which pretty accurately describes 6ixStringJack and his Trumptard relatives, colleagues, acquaintances, and Indiana ignoramuses:
1) Oppenheimer is not a murder mystery like Knives Out (2019) where the viewer figures out who the real killer is as the major part of the entertainment value of the movie.
2) Oppenheimer, the man himself, was not sure that the Trinity bomb would actually explode as designed, but there is no uncertainty for the viewers unless they wandered into the wrong auditorium while looking for Barbie.
3) Oppenheimer was even less sure that the Trinity bomb wouldn't set the atmosphere on fire, but there is no uncertainty now.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Shut up, cunt.
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Quote:Physicist I. I. Rabi (rhymes with “hobby”), winner of the 1944 Nobel Prize in Physics, said the same thing about Oppenheimer.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Shut up, cunt.
Because Rabi was completely nonobservant (his lifelong attitude toward religion was “I don’t need fairy tales”), he saw Oppenheimer’s spiritual vagaries not as a sacrilege but as an apostasy of reason unforgiveable in a scientist. Yet one should never discount competitiveness even at the highest levels of achievement. I’m certain that Rabi and his wife also felt that Oppenheimer had become far too celebrated as the philosopher king of science rather than for his actual discoveries, which Rabi’s research far outstripped. His work on nuclear magnetic resonance, the basis for both radar and the MRI, won him the Nobel. Oppenheimer was nominated for the prize three times but never received it. According to Bird and Sherwin, “In the rarefied world of physics, Rabi would come to be regarded as the deep thinker and Oppenheimer as the great synthesizer.”
From the outset, Rabi had moral qualms about the development of nuclear weapons. “I was strongly opposed to bombing ever since 1931, when I saw those pictures of the Japanese bombing that suburb of Shanghai,” he reminisced late in life. “You drop a bomb and it falls on the just and the unjust. There is no escape from it.… I didn’t like it then and I don’t now.” He resisted Oppenheimer’s pleas to join his New Mexico team, instead spending the war years at MIT perfecting radar, which he thought was more crucial to achieving victory.
Rabi's wife, the perspicacious Helen Newmark Rabi, had known the more-sensitive-than-thou Oppenheimer since early childhood—they were classmates at New York’s private, progressive Ethical Culture School, where he enrolled in 1911—and considered him an insufferable poseur. Rabi held a more amused, though hardly uncritical, view of Oppenheimer’s high-flown airs. They first met in 1929, while both were pursuing postgraduate studies in Europe. Rabi attributed their dissimilarities to class, Oppenheimer having been, in his unsparing words, “a rich spoiled Jewish brat,” the eldest son of highly assimilated German Jews. The Oppenheimers’ full-floor apartment on Riverside Drive was hung with a Blue Period Picasso and three Van Gogh canvases, among other artworks, the opulent opposite of the two-room Lower East Side tenement flat where Rabi grew up in an impoverished Galician-Jewish family. For him, science was the universal equalizer of humankind, rather than the transcendental elevator of the spirit that Oppenheimer deemed it to be.
The fact is that Oppenheimer was not the high-minded martyr of personal conscience—a modern-day Thomas More—that his legend would have us believe. Late and soon he craved establishment validation. This was evident in his postwar career as director of the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, the multidisciplinary think tank that he flippantly described to Time magazine as “an intellectual hotel.” There he gathered together a pantheon of younger physicists to surround the aged Einstein, who had arrived after fleeing Germany in 1933. “It was to prove unfortunate but true,” wrote the Dutch physicist Abraham Pais, an IAS faculty member, “that Robert relished belonging to America’s center of temporal power.”
In a scene in Nolan’s film that quotes directly from the transcripts of the hearing where Oppenheimer loses his top secret security clearance, Krumholtz’s Rabi exasperatedly asks his interrogators how one could possibly question the loyalty of “a man who had accomplished what Dr. Oppenheimer has accomplished…. We have an A-bomb and a whole series of it, and what more do you want, mermaids?” (At the inclusion of that line, Margaret and I were completely won over: for decades “mermaids,” our all-time favorite Rabi-ism, has been a family catchphrase for ungratefully excessive demands.)
https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/07/21/oppies-problem-oppenheimer/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives,
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Biopic Docu Drama movies trying to make money not so easy?
The Elephant Man, Casino, Amadeus, Ed Wood, American Splendor, Chaplin, Nixon, The Right Stuff, Marie Antoinette, Heavenly Creatures, Darkest Hour, Alive, Ip Man, The Doors, Persepolis, The Last King of Scotland, The Hurricane not all of these movies made money, some of them even flopped
‘Barbie’ Box Office: Greta Gerwig Breaks Opening Weekend Record for Female Director
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/barbie-greta-gerwi
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
I personally am not too worried, we have a few science, history, AI and space threads and if you followed War or History or Science a lot of readers would already know of these guys, people like Werner Heisenberg if you are the reader of history and war and science might some of the back story. You might know of FDR and Hitler and Stalin, the improvement in sciences across Europe at this time, the Jewish politics and involved with Bolseviks and the rise of the Right and then Hitler blaming the Left or blaming all problems on Jews and trying to build a Military Reich and SuperRace, you might know of Niels Bohr, Einstein, Truman, Hirohito, Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Nikola Tesla, Michael Faraday, Marie Curie, Wilhelm Röntgen, Antoine Henri Becquerel the Principle of special relativity the revolutionary theory on Quantum Physics and atomic structures, and people might know of Oppenheimer himself and the Joe McCarthy witchhunts and Red Scare and people with their hoax trials and trying to call him a 'Traitor'. I will probably watch the movies anyways, Spoilers or not
However I have not read the book on which the movie is based
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Barbie movie wins box office battle in US
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-66285161.amp
The Barbie film has become the US and Canada's biggest film of the year
and Oppenheimer era
Many important people at this time and Isidor Isaac Rabi the Polish-Jewish who later helped build Cern?
the War with Germany had been won
in the East on the Pacific front, they only surrendered a week after a second Nuclear bomb in Nagasaki, and Hirohito had to overrule his war council.
There is a clip a BBC Drama about the Hiroshima Bomb
it took 2 bombs for Japan to Surrender
What of a war if they still had not surrendered?
they in the USA could not make Plutonium bombs easy, it was moving slow, possibly Uranium bombs and maybe it would have been months until the next drop. China was going Red or maybe setting the stage for its own civil war and the Soviet Union attacked Manchuria driving out Imperial Japanese soliders with a million and a half troops. A mix of Russian Soviets, the Nationalist - KMT - and Communist - CPC - Chinese, and the Americans and allies to take over the control of all of Eastern China from the Japanese occupiers? Maybe in another alternative Dimension timeline Japan did not surrender and Taiwan went Communist Red while Mainland China went Capitalist Nationalist? sounds like a plot to a time travel movie.
Now DECLASSIFIED, only a few Americans back in 1945 ever were privileged to have access to a plan which, to this day, few Americans – and fewer Australians – still know about.
https://navyhistory.au/operation-downfall-the-invasion-of-japan/
Buried deep for decades in the US National Archives in Washington, thousands of yellowing, dusty pages marked TOP SECRET now reveal the enormity of OPERATION DOWNFALL – the proposed invasion of Japan.
From 1939–1945 the USA had 291,550 + combat deaths
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A total of 4.5 million American servicemen – more than 40% of all still in uniform in 1945 – would be involved.
One US Admiral estimated there would be some 250,000 Americans killed or wounded on Kyushu alone. A General estimated American casualties from the entire operation would be one million men by the fall of 1946.
General MacArthur had his own fantasies about using Nuke weapons prior to 'Downfall'. MacArthur was still going on these fantasies during the Korean War. Did the USA get close to a Military Dictatorship, April 1951, U.S. president Harry S. Truman relieved General of the Army Douglas MacArthur of his commands after MacArthur made public statements that contradicted the administration's policies. Would Oppenheimer have been jailed for being to close to the Left in his past time during a Red Scare or examined past associations, old friend and organizations affiliated with the Communist Party, maybe he would have been mashed with some Neo-Patriot-Act or sent to Gulag USA? Finally given reward in the 60s in gestures of political rehabilitation. A witch hunted disgraced member of a political trail or a person of government is restored to public respectability
Some in official PDF say 'failed to follow its own rules'
https://web.archive.org/web/20230723192759/https://www.energy.gov/site
s/default/files/2022-12/S1%20Oppenheimer%20Order%2012.12.22%20signed%20by%20S1%2012-16-2022.pdf
fairness of the proceeding?
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Biopic Docu Drama movies trying to make money not so easy?
The Elephant Man, Casino, Amadeus, Ed Wood, American Splendor, Chaplin, Nixon, The Right Stuff, Marie Antoinette, Heavenly Creatures, Darkest Hour, Alive, Ip Man, The Doors, Persepolis, The Last King of Scotland, The Hurricane not all of these movies made money, some of them even flopped
‘Barbie’ Box Office: Greta Gerwig Breaks Opening Weekend Record for Female Director
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/barbie-greta-gerwi
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
I personally am not too worried, we have a few science, history, AI and space threads and if you followed War or History or Science a lot of readers would already know of these guys, people like Werner Heisenberg if you are the reader of history and war and science might some of the back story. You might know of FDR and Hitler and Stalin, the improvement in sciences across Europe at this time, the Jewish politics and involved with Bolseviks and the rise of the Right and then Hitler blaming the Left or blaming all problems on Jews and trying to build a Military Reich and SuperRace, you might know of Niels Bohr, Einstein, Truman, Hirohito, Isaac Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Nikola Tesla, Michael Faraday, Marie Curie, Wilhelm Röntgen, Antoine Henri Becquerel the Principle of special relativity the revolutionary theory on Quantum Physics and atomic structures, and people might know of Oppenheimer himself and the Joe McCarthy witchhunts and Red Scare and people with their hoax trials and trying to call him a 'Traitor'. I will probably watch the movies anyways, Spoilers or not
However I have not read the book on which the movie is based
To 99% of the people in the country, Heisenberg was Walter White's handle on Breaking Bad.
Even less people know who Oppenheimer was than people who knew where Ukraine was on a map 2 years ago.
Second is one of those people.
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"Barbie" is not something that I would ever watch. But I might "Oppenheimer".
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Quote:How could you not know Oppenheimer and be a real American? It is like not knowing that Lincoln's Vice President, now President Andrew Johnson, pardoned all the Confederates for murdering hundreds of thousands of American citizens, which is why criminals like Trump think they can still get away with murder. (Trump: I could ‘shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters’) The US government spent a fortune on making a movie about Oppenheimer and how wonderful the A-bomb was:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Even less people know who Oppenheimer was than people who knew where Ukraine was on a map 2 years ago.
Second is one of those people.
The Battle Over the Bomb
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-real-history-behind-christo
pher-nolans-oppenheimer-180982529/
In the years immediately following the war, public opinion about the use of the atomic bomb hadn’t yet solidified. The first time Oppenheimer appeared on the big screen was in August 1946, when he starred in the 18-minute documentary “Atomic Power,” which was part of Time’s “The March of Time” series. Onscreen, Oppenheimer (one of several figures who participated in the film, including Einstein, Groves and Rabi) re-enacts waiting anxiously for the detonation at Trinity with Rabi, who gives a stilted performance as he reassures his boss, “It’s going to work all right, Robert. And I’m sure we’ll never be sorry for it.”
In fact, Oppenheimer was already sorry. In October 1945, he told President Harry S. Truman (played by Gary Oldman in Nolan’s film), “Mr. President, I feel I have blood on my hands.” The tide of public opinion was also beginning to turn. Three weeks after “Atomic Power” was released, John Hersey’s searing, book-length article “Hiroshima” appeared in the New Yorker, awakening many Americans for the first time to the horrors of the bomb.
Fearing they were losing the battle for the history books, Truman and other officials sprang into action, compelling former Secretary of War Henry Stimson to defend the use of the bomb in a Harper’s magazine article published in February 1947. The story, which reads as a simple recitation of the facts, portrays the decision to use the bomb as one made with sagacious care. It introduced the argument—repeated often since—that the bomb prevented an Allied land invasion of Japan that would have cost “over a million casualties, to American forces alone.”
“That article really set the history for most Americans for the next generation,” Bird says. “And the narrative was, ‘Oh, it was a difficult decision. It was terrible. But it was necessary, and it saved perhaps a million American lives.’”
The first major Hollywood film about the bomb, The Beginning or the End, debuted the month after Stimson’s article. Initially conceived by atomic scientists as a way to educate the public about the dangers of nuclear warfare, the movie went through script approvals and retakes ordered by Groves and Truman that turned it into a “pro-bomb celebration—dictated by the Pentagon and White House,” wrote Greg Mitchell in his 2020 book, The Beginning or the End: How Hollywood—and America—Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
Directed by Norman Taurog, the film “is so instructive because it is the earliest, and one of the most complete, reassertions of the pro-bomb narrative just when doubts were being raised,” Mitchell tells Smithsonian magazine. “Even Truman got involved, to the extent of ordering a costly retake and getting the actor playing him fired. The studio voluntarily handed over control of the film to the Pentagon, via Groves, and the White House. Oppenheimer himself caved to pressure.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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‘The Barbenheimer effect’: Barbie and Oppenheimer smash Australian box office records
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/24/barbie-oppenheimer-austra
lian-box-office-total-records-barbenheimer
Barbie Vs Oppenheimer: Barbie wins Barbenheimer battle but both films celebrate box office records
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/barbie-vs-oppenheimer-barbenheimer-box-offic
e-opening-weekend-095703396.html
Oppenheimer and Barbie give Vue cinemas best UK weekend since Covid
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/23/oppenheimer-and-barbie-gi
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Originally posted by second:Quote:How could you not know Oppenheimer and be a real American?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Even less people know who Oppenheimer was than people who knew where Ukraine was on a map 2 years ago.
Second is one of those people.
Are you kidding me dude?
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A lot of people were not sure about these movies but both are a box office sucess and ticket numbers across the world are back to normal Pre Covid Levels.
'Barbie and Oppenheimer Are About Ideas Made Real'
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/barbie-and-oppenheimer-are-about-idea
s-made-real-barbenheimer/
Perhaps we will destroy ourselves with a man made device before some Space-Rock, Climate Pollution, Black Death Plague or Super Volcano does.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you kidding me dude?
Blame the System, the West now educates its kids that islamism is 'peace' and the importance of transexualled pro-nouns
While Chinese are taught either the concept of Hydro Dams, how to fix an engine or they teach practical biology, chemistry and math and astronomy and the science behind building your own computer
Here's something you might not know, there was a brief debate if Earth currently had a 'Second Moon'. It turns out Earth has a Big Moon but also lots of tiny satellites most man -made and one of them was a Natural Space Rock 'Captured' I believe it hung around at one of the Lagrange point a Trojan asteroid that will hang around for 4,000 years. It's a big-ish asteroid but much smaller in diameter than the one that killed the Dinosaurs.
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Quote:Dude, I live in East Texas. There are so many white trash people here that are barely convincing as humans, let alone as Americans. Think of "The Planet of the Apes", but these East Texas apes are dressed in costumes and wear makeup to give them approximately the appearance of human beings. But underneath the clothes and cosmetics, they are still apes that have a hard time with the following moral calculus: “What are the conditions that you think it would be acceptable for the United States to deliberately burn 200,000 Japanese civilians alive?"
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you kidding me dude?
The film Oppenheimer forces us to ask hard questions about America’s nuclear arms program
Our nuclear reality is Oppenheimer’s “worst nightmare.”
https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/7/24/23800777/oppenheimer-christophe
r-nolan-atomic-bomb-true-story-los-alamos-manhattan-project
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Dude, I live in East Texas. There are so many white trash people here that are barely convincing as humans, let alone as Americans. Think of "The Planet of the Apes", but these East Texas apes are dressed in costumes and wear makeup to give them approximately the appearance of human beings. But underneath the clothes and cosmetics, they are still apes that have a hard time with the following moral calculus: “What are the conditions that you think it would be acceptable for the United States to deliberately burn 200,000 Japanese civilians alive?"
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you kidding me dude?
Yeah. And the video I showed you took place in New York.
Stupid is everywhere.
Now follow back your quote chain to where you asked what kind of person doesn't know who Oppenheimer is and how they could call themselves American and where I said that even less people knew who Oppenheimer was than knew where Ukraine was on a map 2 years ago and you'll find that nothing you're saying is changing that fact.
In the meantime, you're being nicer to human beings than Lovecraft was. He just called us meat sacks with jelly inside.
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I didn't thing 'Barbie' would make $70 mill this weekend, I will go eat crow now. As for the people at Disney, they're eating something else...ick.
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Quote:How do you get the CURRENT audience score? I can only find the original tomatometer score, when only Wokeness was rating it.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Barbie scores 07/23
Rotten Tomatoes:
All Critics: 90%
Top Critics 91%
Verified Audience: 90%
All Audience: 74%
IMDB:
7.6/10
Metacritic:
Critics: 80/100
Users: 5.6/100
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Bruce had mentioned that he knew Barbie make $1.1M on Wednesday, but he didn't post it in the Box office figures. And then Thursday was $21.2M. I don't know what his rules are. dude.
Today, Monday, my largest local theater (had barbie at 7pm last Wed, alongside Mummies) has 21 showings of Barbie, 9 of Oppy, 7 DR, and 4 of SoF.
Tomorrow, Tuesday is listed for 28 of Barbie, 10 Oppy, 6 DR, and 5 SoF - most starting about 10 or 11 am.
So thisis the Greta Gerwig Divorce movie?
As mentioned in videos, it was a Coup for the PR Dept to hide how bad the film was, and just trick folks into going to it.
I had gotten the impression it was sort of a remake of Clueless, and Robbie was able to pull off the vapid and vacant hollow plastic head persona - does that qualify as acting?
But it sounds like the true feat is a Tour De Force from Ryan Gosling. Maybe if somebody put together a short film or video, just clips of Ryan's Ken segments, it might actually be worth watching.
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I didn't thing 'Barbie' would make $70 mill this weekend, I will go eat crow now.
That makes two of us, brother.
Here's hoping for a 70% drop next weekend to restore my faith in humanity.
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As for the people at Disney, they're eating something else...ick.
Ah yes... The silver lining.
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Oppenheimer received major box office boost because Barbie tickets sold out
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/oppenheime
r-tickets-barbie-box-office-b2381086.html
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Quote:The movie may not make it clear that Oppenheimer, despite his reputation for brilliance, wasn't smart. The movie does make it clear that Einstein was smart and both worked at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. When the shocking news became public about Oppenheimer losing his security clearance, which is the main point of the movie, Einstein told a reporter that he thought that Oppenheimer should go to the government, tear up his clearance, tell them they were fools and resign. As usual, Einstein saw through the thicket of complexity to the heart of the matter. But such behavior would have been entirely out of character for Oppenheimer. After conferring with his lawyers, Oppenheimer decided to fight the charges. And that is why there is a movie called "Oppenheimer". He was doomed and wise Einstein knew it before foolish Oppenheimer did. If a movie about a guy who killed hundreds of thousands of women and children but slowly developed a conscience against murder in a way that ended up humiliating him during a trial for a security clearance, "Oppenheimer" is your kind of entertainment.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Dude, I live in East Texas. There are so many white trash people here that are barely convincing as humans, let alone as Americans. Think of "The Planet of the Apes", but these East Texas apes are dressed in costumes and wear makeup to give them approximately the appearance of human beings. But underneath the clothes and cosmetics, they are still apes that have a hard time with the following moral calculus: “What are the conditions that you think it would be acceptable for the United States to deliberately burn 200,000 Japanese civilians alive?"
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you kidding me dude?
Yeah. And the video I showed you took place in New York.
Stupid is everywhere.
Now follow back your quote chain to where you asked what kind of person doesn't know who Oppenheimer is and how they could call themselves American and where I said that even less people knew who Oppenheimer was than knew where Ukraine was on a map 2 years ago and you'll find that nothing you're saying is changing that fact.
In the meantime, you're being nicer to human beings than Lovecraft was. He just called us meat sacks with jelly inside.
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2023/07/oppenheimer-vii-scorpion
s-in-a-bottle.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The movie may not make it clear that Oppenheimer, despite his reputation for brilliance, wasn't smart. The movie does make it clear that Einstein was smart and both worked at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton. When the shocking news became public about Oppenheimer losing his security clearance, which is the main point of the movie, Einstein told a reporter that he thought that Oppenheimer should go to the government, tear up his clearance, tell them they were fools and resign. As usual, Einstein saw through the thicket of complexity to the heart of the matter. But such behavior would have been entirely out of character for Oppenheimer. After conferring with his lawyers, Oppenheimer decided to fight the charges. And that is why there is a movie called "Oppenheimer". He was doomed and wise Einstein knew it before foolish Oppenheimer did. If a movie about a guy who killed hundreds of thousands of women and children but slowly developed a conscience against murder in a way that ended up humiliating him during a trial for a security clearance, "Oppenheimer" is your kind of entertainment.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Dude, I live in East Texas. There are so many white trash people here that are barely convincing as humans, let alone as Americans. Think of "The Planet of the Apes", but these East Texas apes are dressed in costumes and wear makeup to give them approximately the appearance of human beings. But underneath the clothes and cosmetics, they are still apes that have a hard time with the following moral calculus: “What are the conditions that you think it would be acceptable for the United States to deliberately burn 200,000 Japanese civilians alive?"
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you kidding me dude?
Yeah. And the video I showed you took place in New York.
Stupid is everywhere.
Now follow back your quote chain to where you asked what kind of person doesn't know who Oppenheimer is and how they could call themselves American and where I said that even less people knew who Oppenheimer was than knew where Ukraine was on a map 2 years ago and you'll find that nothing you're saying is changing that fact.
In the meantime, you're being nicer to human beings than Lovecraft was. He just called us meat sacks with jelly inside.
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2023/07/oppenheimer-vii-scorpion
s-in-a-bottle.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
You just don't like the movie because you mistakenly think that I'm rooting for it and you're always looking for an argument.
I'm indifferent to the idea of Oppenheimer the movie.
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Actors reflect on 'Barbie,' 'Oppenheimer' box office success
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/entertainment/2023/07/25/actors-reflec
t-barbie-oppenheimer-box-office-success/12287843002/
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Quote:Rumor has it that in the fictional film Titanic, the ship sinks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
WARNING: It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
It's been out like two days dude.
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Originally posted by whozit:
I didn't thing 'Barbie' would make $70 mill this weekend, I will go eat crow now.
That makes two of us, brother.
Here's hoping for a 70% drop next weekend to restore my faith in humanity.Quote:
As for the people at Disney, they're eating something else...ick.
Ah yes... The silver lining.
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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Rumor has it that in the fictional film Titanic, the ship sinks.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
WARNING: It looks as though Second put the ending spoilers to Oppenheimer in his post this morning because he's a douchebag.
It's been out like two days dude.
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Do I have to school you on how fucking dumb the American public is too, dude?
And forgive me for not believing that a $185,000,000 movie made by Christopher Nolan is historically accurate and not super loaded with artistic liberty and embellishments regardless.
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Quote:Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I didn't thing 'Barbie' would make $70 mill this weekend, I will go eat crow now.
That makes two of us, brother.
Here's hoping for a 70% drop next weekend to restore my faith in humanity.Quote:
As for the people at Disney, they're eating something else...ick.
Ah yes... The silver lining.
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$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
Well... I'm hoping that it is.
But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.
Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:
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I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that Avatar: The Way of Water is the only movie released in 2022 that had a higher Monday than Barbie just did when it made $32,270,430 on December 26th on its 2nd Monday in theaters (which is twice the $16,257,078 it made on its first Monday when half the country was an icicle.)
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Not just Little Boy but another device, Scot Manley
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I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that Avatar: The Way of Water is the only movie released in 2022 that had a higher Monday than Barbie just did when it made $32,270,430 on December 26th on its 2nd Monday in theaters (which is twice the $16,257,078 it made on its first Monday when half the country was an icicle.)
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I stand corrected. There were two movies in 2022 that made more than Barbie just did on a Monday. Both Avatar: The Way of Water and Top Gun: Maverick.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/monday
Without adjusting for inflation, Barbie is the 13th highest grossing Monday at the Domestic Box Office of all time.
And let's take a look at the others above it...
1. Black Panther (February 19th, 2018): It wasn't the black holiday Juneteenth back then, but it was still a federal holiday and all the black women they have put in every position in the post offices all over the country were able to go see it.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (December 21st, 2015): Another Monday, but right in the middle of Winter Break for kids, which I'm sure had at least some impact on the nubmers.
3. Spider-Man: No Way Home (December 20th, 2021): Yet another Monday during the middle of Winter Break for the kids.
4. Avengers: Endgame (April 29th, 2019): No holiday to speak of, unless we're counting "International Dance Day", but it was freakin' Endgame. The pre-plandemic movie they compare all other movies to today.
5. Top Gun: Maverick (May 30th, 2022): Memorial Day. 'Nuff Said.
6. Avatar: The Way of Water (December 26th, 2022): The day after Christmas and the highest grossing movie of 2022.
7. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (December 26th, 2016): The day after Christmas and what many claim is the only good thing to happen to Star Wars since Disney took over.
8. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (December 28th, 2016): This movie still sucks a week later, but people were still high off of the idea of a new Star Wars movie and it was still the tail end of Winter Break.
9. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (December 23, 2019): Star Wars had been beaten into the ground by Disney at this point, but it's still a new Star Wars movie and it was the Monday before Christmas.
10. Spider-Man 2 (July 5th, 2004): Arguably the best Spider-Man movie ever made, the day after Independence Day and a Monday that everyone who gets federal holidays off got off.
11. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (December 25th, 2017): The movie that arguably killed Disney Star Wars, but again... Star Wars and on Christmas day to boot.
12. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (May 26th, 2008): People wouldn't have complained so much about this one if they knew what was coming 15 years later. Yeah... it was trash, but people were still excited about Indy back then and this was Memorial day.
What was Monday, July 24th, 2023? Nothing. Barbie made 13th place on the all time Monday list with several movies that dated back to the mid-2000's on a non-holiday Monday and is the only movie on the list that isn't a Marvel Property, a Lucasfilm Property and/or a sequel. It is also the only movie in the top 13 on that list to have not fallen directly on a holiday, a federally observed holiday, or Christmas break besides Avengers: End Game which didn't ever need to fall on a holiday to get in the top 5 on that list.
I very much hope this movie was front loaded, but with the data available right now, saying that it is front-loaded is speaking from emotions instead of math.
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Was Hollywood smart to pit Barbie and Oppenheimer against each other? The box office says so
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/barbie-vs-oppenheimer-box-office/
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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
Well... I'm hoping that it is.
But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.
Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:
And now it looks like it just made another $26 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday.
If true, that will put it at number 11 on the Biggest Tuesday at the Domestic Box Office.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/tuesday
Once again, let's break down which movies are above it.
1. Spider-Man: Far From Home (Jul 2, 2019): Two days before Independence Day.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 22, 2015): First Disney Star Wars Movie; Winter Break; Tuesday before Christmas.
3. The Amazing Spider-Man (Jul 3, 2012): One day before Independence Day.
4. Avengers: End Game (Apr 30, 2019): End Game.
5. Spider-Man: No Way Home (Dec 21, 2021): Tuesday before Christmas.
6. The Lion King (Jul 23, 2019): No holidays in vicinity. Billion Dollar Live Action Disney Remake Era.
7. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 29, 2015): Tail end of Winter Break.
8. Transformers (July 3, 2007): Day before Independence Day.
9. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (Dec 26, 2017): Day after Christmas.
10. Incredibles 2 (Jun 19, 2018): President's Day/Federal Holiday. Not Juneteenth yet.
Once again, all of those movies were Marvel and/or Lucasfilm and/or sequels/reboots and/or fell on a holiday. Transformers is a joke these days, but the hype around that was was insane back in 2007.
Unless Barbie falls off a cliff, there could be a chance the movie makes it to the top of the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget despite it's (modest for a blockbuster) $100 Million Production Budget. That's the same budget that Super Mario Bros had, and it's number 2 on the list with 1,355% right now. And although it's impossible for me to go back and get the actual worldwide number for SMB after 5 days of release, I can see that Barbie already has made $10 Million more than SMB did in the Domestic Box Office in that time.
But if you look at the way the numbers were tabulated for both movies, Day 5 on SMB is Sunday where it is Tuesday for Barbie with no "preview day" for SMB... So shenanigans?
If we match up Tuesday to Tuesday, SMB was ahead of Barbie by about $26 Million at this point.
In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.
I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.
I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.
We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.
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A story about a kids Doll, a fashion doll created by American businesswoman Ruth Handler, manufactured by American toy company Mattel, the 'Barbie' brand has expanded into a long-running multimedia franchise
One other story is about the real life guy who built the atom bomb, a man emblematic of a new type of technocratic power, almost went off on a tangent in mystic study of Sanskrit, nominated for the Nobel Prize for physics three times, in 1946, 1951 and 1967
Man's Right to Knowledge
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/27/news/1954nuclear-scientist-speaks-i
n-our-pages100-75-and-50-years-ago.html
Part of a group that would later be the World Academy of Art and Science, attended the first Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs in 1957. daughter Katherine "Toni" Oppenheimer Silber. Toni was refused security clearance for her chosen vocation as a United Nations translator after the FBI brought up the old charges against her father. In January 1977, three months after the end of her second marriage, she hanged herself in her family beach house. She left the property to "the people of St. John for a public park and recreation area"
https://web.archive.org/web/20180110054647/https://oldtowncrier.com/20
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"Japan Was Already Defeated": The Case Against the Nuclear Bomb and for Basic Morality
By Timothy P. Carney
July 26, 2023
“I was against it on two counts,” Dwight Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, five-star general, and president of the United States, said of dropping nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities. “First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”
This certainly cuts against the common argument these days: that dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives, certainly the lives of American soldiers, and maybe even Japanese lives on net.
Since the movie Oppenheimer came out, I have had occasion to opine against the nuclear bombings based on straightforward moral principles. I have repeatedly been told that I am being too precious.
Many view the question of whether to kill the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an example of the “trolley problem.”
The trolley problem is a philosophical exercise meant to test the distinction between the moral weight of the actions we choose versus the consequences of inaction. Is it the better decision to take an action that kills one person versus taking an inaction that results in five deaths?
The implication is that nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is flipping a lever, rerouting the trolley, and causing the death of fewer people.
It’s a fine ethical exercise, but it’s inapplicable in real life for a million reasons because, in real life, things don’t run like an automated trolley on a track. We know where a trolley will go if we don’t flip a switch because there is a track there. We don’t know what Japan’s military and civilian population would have done had we not flipped the switch.
Defenders of the atomic bomb say that our only alternative to the deliberate slaughter of tens of thousands of noncombatants, including babies and elderly women, was a massive land invasion that would have cost millions of lives. They present this as if it was one of two sets of train tracks available.
People who were very involved at the time disagree. Again, Eisenhower said the Japanese were about to surrender.
Eisenhower told his biographer that he expressed to War Secretary Harry Stimson his “grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”
Was Eisenhower right that the atomic bomb was “no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives”? I don’t know! Neither do you! There’s a lot of uncertainty here.
Adm. William Leahy, President Harry Truman’s chief military adviser, agreed with Eisenhower. “It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan,” Leahy wrote. “The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”
Again, you can believe other people besides Leahy or Eisenhower. I can’t adjudicate the various claims. But I can conclude that there was lots of uncertainty about where this war was going. There certainly weren’t just two possible paths.
When we are deeply uncertain about the consequences of our actions, where do we turn? We turn to moral principles, including the principle that it is immoral to kill innocent women and children.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/japan-was-already-defeated-the-case-against
-the-nuclear-bomb-and-for-basic-morality/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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"Japan Was Already Defeated": The Case Against the Nuclear Bomb and for Basic Morality
By Timothy P. Carney
July 26, 2023
“I was against it on two counts,” Dwight Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, five-star general, and president of the United States, said of dropping nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities. “First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”
This certainly cuts against the common argument these days: that dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives, certainly the lives of American soldiers, and maybe even Japanese lives on net.
Since the movie Oppenheimer came out, I have had occasion to opine against the nuclear bombings based on straightforward moral principles. I have repeatedly been told that I am being too precious.
Many view the question of whether to kill the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an example of the “trolley problem.”
The trolley problem is a philosophical exercise meant to test the distinction between the moral weight of the actions we choose versus the consequences of inaction. Is it the better decision to take an action that kills one person versus taking an inaction that results in five deaths?
The implication is that nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima is flipping a lever, rerouting the trolley, and causing the death of fewer people.
It’s a fine ethical exercise, but it’s inapplicable in real life for a million reasons because, in real life, things don’t run like an automated trolley on a track. We know where a trolley will go if we don’t flip a switch because there is a track there. We don’t know what Japan’s military and civilian population would have done had we not flipped the switch.
Defenders of the atomic bomb say that our only alternative to the deliberate slaughter of tens of thousands of noncombatants, including babies and elderly women, was a massive land invasion that would have cost millions of lives. They present this as if it was one of two sets of train tracks available.
People who were very involved at the time disagree. Again, Eisenhower said the Japanese were about to surrender.
Eisenhower told his biographer that he expressed to War Secretary Harry Stimson his “grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”
Was Eisenhower right that the atomic bomb was “no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives”? I don’t know! Neither do you! There’s a lot of uncertainty here.
Adm. William Leahy, President Harry Truman’s chief military adviser, agreed with Eisenhower. “It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan,” Leahy wrote. “The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”
Again, you can believe other people besides Leahy or Eisenhower. I can’t adjudicate the various claims. But I can conclude that there was lots of uncertainty about where this war was going. There certainly weren’t just two possible paths.
When we are deeply uncertain about the consequences of our actions, where do we turn? We turn to moral principles, including the principle that it is immoral to kill innocent women and children.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/japan-was-already-defeated-the-case-against
-the-nuclear-bomb-and-for-basic-morality/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Where's (correction: where are) your "moral principals" (correction: principles) about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?
I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals. (correction: principles)
You people are loathsome.
https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-joe-biden-has-all-but-ended-us-dron
e-warfare/
In the second year of President Joe Biden’s administration, the number of US airstrikes fell to a historic low
https://airwars.org/research/us-airstrikes-fell-to-historic-low-in-202
2-despite-fresh-operations/
6ixStringJack, your signature reads: "How you do anything is how you do everything."
6ix, you and every Trumptard I know (without even one exception) do everything in a half-ass manner, just exactly how you did this particular comment claiming Democrats are killing people with drone strikes. That is why your lives are "difficult", "unfulfilling", "disappointing", or whatever single word describes your feelings. Your feelings are not caused by Democrats. Your feelings are caused by you and how you live and screw up everything you touch.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The tragedy of the Manhattan Project
Framing nuclear as a military-first technology has been disastrous for mankind
by Matthew Yglesias, Jul 27, 2023
If you were writing a Manhattan Project movie as a work of fiction, you would tell a different story than any of the contested versions of reality.
The fictional version might go something like this: the United States starts way behind in nuclear physics, with fission having been first demonstrated in Berlin in December of 1938 and the world’s premier quantum scientist, Werner Heisenberg, leading the German effort. But Albert Einstein and Leo Szilard, two Jewish refugees from Hitler’s dictatorship, write to FDR that the United States needs to explore the creation of a fission bomb. Robert Oppenheimer, from a wealthy assimilated Jewish family, leads a team that features critical contributions at every level from exiles and emigres. They beat Heisenberg to the bomb — in part because Niels Bohr refuses to help the Nazis and in part because Hitler thinks quantum mechanics is “Jewish science” — and, because of this nuclear breakthrough, win the war.
As the movie “Oppenheimer” shows, this is more or less the narrative the Manhattan Project protagonists thought they were living out.
But they were wrong. Their work was incredibly impressive from a technical standpoint, and it did end up getting used in the war. But Germany had already surrendered, and despite the endless debates over the validity of its use on Japan, no one thinks the United States wouldn’t have won the war without nuclear bombs. Instead, the causal importance of the Manhattan Project for the world was all about its influence on the postwar era. Again, as detailed in the film, the American government was initially optimistic about obtaining a monopoly on nuclear weapons, but that proved short-lived in part thanks to Soviet espionage.
And what I think is really interesting is that while the Manhattan Project indisputably accelerated nuclear science, I think that by turning nuclear research into a military-first undertaking, in the longer run it probably retarded the development of nuclear electricity for civilian purposes. This is the kind of thing that’s by nature inherently speculative. But as a person who loves counterfactual historical speculations, I think it’s correct — if World War II had somehow not happened, commercial nuclear reactors would have been built later but in a more sustainable way that eventually led to their more widespread adoption.
The Manhattan Project didn’t accomplish its goals
People continue to debate the morality of the decision to drop the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but in important ways there never was a “decision” in the way that people often think about this. Harry Truman established presidential control over the use of nuclear weapons after the bombing of Nagasaki. That’s not to say he was somehow out of the loop on the earlier bombings; he always accepted responsibility for them as part of the overall ethic of “the buck stops here.”
But on an operational level, no distinction was drawn between nuclear weapons and other forms of ordinance. The United States was at war with Japan, and the military commanders were empowered to deploy available weapons in order to try to defeat their enemy.
The interesting high-level policy decision was the decision to build the bombs in the first place. This was a monumental undertaking that cost $2 billion relative to the 1940 GDP of $200 billion. Importantly, the bulk of that money did not go to Oppenheimer and his famous team of scientists at Los Alamos. Everything you see in the movie in the New Mexico desert — the town built from scratch, the international all-star team of physicists, the testing site, etc. — accounted for about 10% of the program’s budget. The bulk of the expense was building the multiple nuclear reactors and supportive infrastructure required to manufacture the quantity of fissile material needed to build the bombs. In other words, it wasn’t just a very expensive science project (though it w
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Where's (correction: where are) your "moral principals" (correction: principles) about drone strikes killing women and children when you've got the President you want in office?
I bet that article doesn't exist. Because people like you don't have any moral principals. (correction: principles)
You people are loathsome.
https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-joe-biden-has-all-but-ended-us-dron
e-warfare/
In the second year of President Joe Biden’s administration, the number of US airstrikes fell to a historic low
https://airwars.org/research/us-airstrikes-fell-to-historic-low-in-202
2-despite-fresh-operations/
6ixStringJack, your signature reads: "How you do anything is how you do everything."
6ix, you and every Trumptard I know (without even one exception) do everything in a half-ass manner, just exactly how you did this particular comment claiming Democrats are killing people with drone strikes. That is why your lives are "difficult", "unfulfilling", "disappointing", or whatever single word describes your feelings. Your feelings are not caused by Democrats. Your feelings are caused by you and how you live and screw up everything you touch.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
LOL @ fat retard Kevin Drum.
I can make graphs saying whatever I want them to say too, dummy.
Did he give you any more gross pictures of him shirtless on the toilet for you to jerk off to recently?
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Barbie made $1.1 M on Last Wed, with promotions.
$21.2 M on Thursday, not sure how many showings/times.
$48.2 M on Friday.
$47.8 M on Saturday - the whole day.
$43.7 M on Sunday.
$26.1 M on Monday.
This is a movie that really seems front-loaded.
Well... I'm hoping that it is.
But that $26.1 Million on a non-holiday Monday give me pause.
Here's a list of movies released in 2023 that had a higher Monday Box Office (Holiday or not) than Barbie just did:
And now it looks like it just made another $26 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday.
If true, that will put it at number 11 on the Biggest Tuesday at the Domestic Box Office.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/tuesday
Once again, let's break down which movies are above it.
1. Spider-Man: Far From Home (Jul 2, 2019): Two days before Independence Day.
2. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 22, 2015): First Disney Star Wars Movie; Winter Break; Tuesday before Christmas.
3. The Amazing Spider-Man (Jul 3, 2012): One day before Independence Day.
4. Avengers: End Game (Apr 30, 2019): End Game.
5. Spider-Man: No Way Home (Dec 21, 2021): Tuesday before Christmas.
6. The Lion King (Jul 23, 2019): No holidays in vicinity. Billion Dollar Live Action Disney Remake Era.
7. Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens (Dec 29, 2015): Tail end of Winter Break.
8. Transformers (July 3, 2007): Day before Independence Day.
9. Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi (Dec 26, 2017): Day after Christmas.
10. Incredibles 2 (Jun 19, 2018): President's Day/Federal Holiday. Not Juneteenth yet.
Once again, all of those movies were Marvel and/or Lucasfilm and/or sequels/reboots and/or fell on a holiday. Transformers is a joke these days, but the hype around that was was insane back in 2007.
Unless Barbie falls off a cliff, there could be a chance the movie makes it to the top of the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget despite it's (modest for a blockbuster) $100 Million Production Budget. That's the same budget that Super Mario Bros had, and it's number 2 on the list with 1,355% right now. And although it's impossible for me to go back and get the actual worldwide number for SMB after 5 days of release, I can see that Barbie already has made $10 Million more than SMB did in the Domestic Box Office in that time.
But if you look at the way the numbers were tabulated for both movies, Day 5 on SMB is Sunday where it is Tuesday for Barbie with no "preview day" for SMB... So shenanigans?
If we match up Tuesday to Tuesday, SMB was ahead of Barbie by about $26 Million at this point.
In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.
I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.
I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.
We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.
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I've already put the Biggest Monday and Tuesday lists together. I'm not going to do the Biggest Wednesday too.
I'll just mention that although the movies that beat it are more of the same (Marvel, Star-Wars, Disney Sequels/Remakes), there were quite a few other properties that didn't hit the toplists of Monday and Tuesday such as Harry Potter movies, Lord of the rings movies, The Passion of the Christ, a Matrix flick and Twilight: Eclipse topping the list. A big reason
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In just 5 days Barbie has already made 408% of its Production Budget back worldwide.
I think this is all terrible news, but I'm not really sure about that front-loaded theory of yours, JSF.
I was hoping for a 70% drop off in the 2nd weekend, but we're 2 days into the week right now when most folk are working and we have yet to see a 70% drop off from the bloated Friday number that includes whatever it pulled in on Wednesday and Thursday of last week.
We're probably going to see figures in the very high $20 Million to middle $30 Million range all weekend.
Projections on Barbie for the 2nd weekend:
Friday: $29,000,000
Saturday: $34,600,000
Sunday: $29,400,000
And as I've brought up several times before, the studios usually downplay their performances on the big blockbusters for at least the first month to six weeks so they don't embarrass themselves, so it's extremely likely that Barbie actually made $2 to $5 Million more over the weekend than these projections when the real numbers come in tomorrow night.
Worldwide, Barbie has already made 775% of its $100 Million production budget in only 10 days, which quickly put it 5th place on the 2023 Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget list that I'll update tomorrow, in between Insidious' roughly 1,019% for 4th place and Evil Dead Rise's final 768%.
If it doesn't slow down this week, it is possible that it will bypass Sound of Freedom next weekend, and if SoF doesn't do as well overseas as it did in the US, it's possible that it never catches up to Barbie if that happens.
Who knows what's going to happen here. Barbie, at least so far unfortunately, has been the phenomena that the Legacy Media predicted it would be and Tom Cruise himself was worried that it would be.
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'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
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‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war
by Derek Hunter, a former staffer for Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.)
I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve seen the Barbie movie, but I’ve seen the Barbie movie.
I have two daughters, ages six and four. They wanted to see “Barbie” because, well…Barbie. I was hoping they’d forget about it long enough for it to come onto cable and spare me the humiliation, but no such luck.
That left me with the prospect of disappointing my children or sucking it up and going to see what I was reasonably certain, based on reviews, would be two hours of obnoxious left-wing indoctrination. Naturally, I chose the latter.
If I was going to be forced to watch this, I was going to do it on my terms. I live in a rural area that turns out to have several drive-in theaters within reasonable distance, and Barbie was playing at almost all of them. So we loaded up the family trickster and set out for the drive-in.
It was some comfort that the tickets were only $10, as opposed to the usual $25 and up (depending on which theater you go to), and an added bonus that the youngest got in free. If Hollywood is going to get my money for this, I thought, I’ll make it as little as possible.
We got there and got set up. I don’t know when you last went to the drive-in, but you should see if there are any near you, because the experience was fun. I’d gone a lot growing up — our house was 2 miles from a drive-in — and it was always a blast, even when the movies left something to be desired. I wanted my kids to experience it at least once. (As it turns out, they loved it too, so we will likely return.)
After setting up our chairs and raiding the concession, we turned on the portable radio and tuned to the correct FM station as the movie started.
My eyes were ready to roll.
Only they didn’t.
The movie was no masterpiece, but I found it to be good. Margot Robbie is an excellent actress and easy on ready-to-roll eyes. Ryan Gosling was actually hilarious as Ken. I’m not a laugh-out-loud kind of guy — a chuckle is the most you’ll usually get from me — but this movie made me laugh out loud more than once. My girls were all-in from the start, laughing at goofy things and loving the clothes and life-size dream houses.
There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.
The only question I got was from my six-year-old, about the one obvious obscenity that the movie bleeps out for comedic effect. (There is no swearing in the movie.) She didn’t like that. She does not like “bad words,” even if she had no idea which bad word it was or what it was about.
And that was it. The plot of the movie didn’t matter — it never does to young kids. Teens might understand it and need a little discussion afterward.
The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”
I didn’t see it that way, but perhaps that’s because Barbie doesn’t mean anything to me. If they make a movie about transgender G.I. Joe and how the bad guy COBRAs are trying to prevent people from becoming their “true selves,” I might have a different reaction.
As far as the movie goes overall, I see no reason to tell people to keep children away from it. Of course it is liberal. Of course it makes clumsy efforts at propagandizing. But so what? So does almost everything in the entertainment business.
You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t rea
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You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and make it go away, like the end of “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” isn’t realistic.
Participate, and then educate afterward, or at least be aware. Pretending something doesn’t exist doesn’t make it disappear. Take responsibility for strengthening your values in your children. Use moments like “Barbie” as an opportunity to explain. Otherwise, we will just continue to lose.
Nobody's closing their eyes, dipshit. The eyes are open.
InBev, Target and Disney are getting destroyed in 2023. If you don't want to be a part of that, don't be surprised when your youngest you're so happy you didn't have to pay a ticket for tells you and your wife that she's a boy.
Or worse, one of those illegals the Dems let into your city kidnap her and do the things to her that Democrats and the bad guys in Sound of Freedom would love to do to your kids.
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There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.
And just what the fuck does that mean, dude?
You obviously give no respect to the intelligence of children, and if you think that "not wondering or asking questions" about things is "smart" behavior by a child, then let me just tell you now that your daughter's are not destined for a career in STEM and you might as well just buy them THOT Daughter's First Webcam setup because they've got a long career ahead of them on OnlyFans taking money for calling a bunch of rando weirdo dudes online who aren't you Daddy... That is, assuming that you're not filling them up with junk food and making them look like thumbs by the time they get into high school where they're going to be bullied mercilessly for being fat and end up hating the world and everyone who lives in it by graduation.
Learn how to parent before giving any advice to other people on parenting. You're shit at it.
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'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
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‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war
by Derek Hunter, a former staffer for Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.)
I’m not proud of the fact that I’ve seen the Barbie movie, but I’ve seen the Barbie movie.
I have two daughters, ages six and four. They wanted to see “Barbie” because, well…Barbie. I was hoping they’d forget about it long enough for it to come onto cable and spare me the humiliation, but no such luck.
That left me with the prospect of disappointing my children or sucking it up and going to see what I was reasonably certain, based on reviews, would be two hours of obnoxious left-wing indoctrination. Naturally, I chose the latter.
If I was going to be forced to watch this, I was going to do it on my terms. I live in a rural area that turns out to have several drive-in theaters within reasonable distance, and Barbie was playing at almost all of them. So we loaded up the family trickster and set out for the drive-in.
It was some comfort that the tickets were only $10, as opposed to the usual $25 and up (depending on which theater you go to), and an added bonus that the youngest got in free. If Hollywood is going to get my money for this, I thought, I’ll make it as little as possible.
We got there and got set up. I don’t know when you last went to the drive-in, but you should see if there are any near you, because the experience was fun. I’d gone a lot growing up — our house was 2 miles from a drive-in — and it was always a blast, even when the movies left something to be desired. I wanted my kids to experience it at least once. (As it turns out, they loved it too, so we will likely return.)
After setting up our chairs and raiding the concession, we turned on the portable radio and tuned to the correct FM station as the movie started.
My eyes were ready to roll.
Only they didn’t.
The movie was no masterpiece, but I found it to be good. Margot Robbie is an excellent actress and easy on ready-to-roll eyes. Ryan Gosling was actually hilarious as Ken. I’m not a laugh-out-loud kind of guy — a chuckle is the most you’ll usually get from me — but this movie made me laugh out loud more than once. My girls were all-in from the start, laughing at goofy things and loving the clothes and life-size dream houses.
There was, of course, the left-wing whining about “the patriarchy” that many right-leaning reviewers have noted. Fortunately, young kids do not know what any of that is, and they are also smart enough not to wonder or ask about it. The Barbie World, to them, is about Barbie.
The only question I got was from my six-year-old, about the one obvious obscenity that the movie bleeps out for comedic effect. (There is no swearing in the movie.) She didn’t like that. She does not like “bad words,” even if she had no idea which bad word it was or what it was about.
And that was it. The plot of the movie didn’t matter — it never does to young kids. Teens might understand it and need a little discussion afterward.
The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”
I didn’t see it that way, but perhaps that’s because Barbie doesn’t mean anything to me. If they make a movie about transgender G.I. Joe and how the bad guy COBRAs are trying to prevent people from becoming their “true selves,” I might have a different reaction.
As far as the movie goes overall, I see no reason to tell people to keep children away from it. Of course it is liberal. Of course it makes clumsy efforts at propagandizing. But so what? So does almost everything in the entertainment business.
You can’t take kids to see a movie about the horrors of human trafficking — and why would you? Culture happens around and to you, whether you participate in it or not. Pretending you can close your eyes and
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Quote:Apparently Greta Gerwig the writer/director of Barbie knows what sells tickets:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Well, at least he pointed out that his wife is the one who wears the pants in the family. I would have loved to have seen her elaboration on this point of view. What sort of Barbie were they expecting to see, if they didn't know it was Greta Gerwig Divorce movie?
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‘Barbie,’ and why conservatives keep losing the culture war
The only person who didn’t enjoy the experience was my wife. She grew up with Barbie as, I imagine, most women today have. The movie’s left-wing message upset her. When asked by the kids why she didn’t like it, she replied, “It was a movie about Barbie made by someone who hates Barbie.”
Top 2023 Movies at the Worldwide Box Office
Rank Movie Worldwide Box Office
1 The Super Mario Bros. Movie $1,356,699,911
2 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 $845,303,497
3 Barbie $816,822,894
4 Fast X $719,379,825
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2023
Movie Comparison: Barbie (2023) vs. The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023)
shows that Barbie could surpass the #1 movie Super Mario Bros.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Barbie-(2023)/Su
per-Mario-Bros-Movie-The-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
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The man-hating harpy finally cracked the code and figured out how to get normies to pay for their brainwashing.
Good for her. Fuck those kids up, groomer.
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‘Oppenheimer’ depicts a man becoming powerful—and irrelevant
https://thebulletin.org/2023/08/oppenheimer-depicts-a-man-becoming-pow
erful-and-irrelevant/
Oppenheimer did not have the temperament and skills to confront the US political and military leadership
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Quote:Trump has always connected his claims of pervasive electoral fraud to the widespread anxiety among white, Christian conservatives that they are losing control of the country and especially movies to a racially diverse, secular, and LGBTQ-friendly Democratic coalition centered in the nation’s largest cities. As Trump put it during one 2020 rally before a predominantly white, rural audience in Georgia: “This is our country. (And our movies.) And you know this, and you see it, but they are trying to take it from us through rigging, fraud, deception, and deceit.” Voters who accept that argument will remain the most powerful force in the GOP coalition. And they will continue to demand leaders who will fight the changes that they believe threaten their position in American society. A majoritarian democracy cannot be tolerated under any circumstances if the outcome is not what they want it to be, including at the movies.
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The man-hating harpy finally cracked the code and figured out how to get normies to pay for their brainwashing.
Good for her. Fuck those kids up, groomer.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump has always connected his claims of pervasive electoral fraud to the widespread anxiety among white, Christian conservatives that they are losing control of the country and especially movies to a racially diverse, secular, and LGBTQ-friendly Democratic coalition centered in the nation’s largest cities. As Trump put it during one 2020 rally before a predominantly white, rural audience in Georgia: “This is our country. (And our movies.) And you know this, and you see it, but they are trying to take it from us through rigging, fraud, deception, and deceit.” Voters who accept that argument will remain the most powerful force in the GOP coalition. And they will continue to demand leaders who will fight the changes that they believe threaten their position in American society. A majoritarian democracy cannot be tolerated under any circumstances if the outcome is not what they want it to be, including at the movies.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The man-hating harpy finally cracked the code and figured out how to get normies to pay for their brainwashing.
Good for her. Fuck those kids up, groomer.
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What?
You think that copying stories behind a paywall at the Atlantic is going to keep me from knowing you copied stories and blasted them out here as your own?
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Trump may constitute a unique threat to America’s democratic traditions. But he has always connected his claims of pervasive electoral fraud to the widespread anxiety among white, Christian conservatives that they are losing control of the country to a racially diverse, secular, and LGBTQ-friendly Democratic coalition centered in the nation’s largest cities. As Trump put it during one 2020 rally before a predominantly white, rural audience in Georgia: “This is our country. And you know this, and you see it, but they are trying to take it from us through rigging, fraud, deception, and deceit.” Whether Trump is convicted for trying to overturn the 2020 election or not, voters who accept that argument will remain the most powerful force in the GOP coalition. And they will continue to demand leaders who will fight the changes that they believe threaten their position in American society.
Those other Republican leaders may not attempt to overturn an election as brazenly as Trump did with the conduct Smith catalogs in his indictment. But, as Wilentz told me, for the foreseeable future, they are likely to pursue other means “toward the same end: that majoritarian democracy cannot be tolerated under any circumstances if the outcome is not what you wanted it to be.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/donald-trump-indictm
ent-gop-jan-6/674895/
Full text without a paywall found here: https://syfeed.com/en-us/news-details/trumps-threat-to-democracy-is-no
w-systemic_79784080.html
Your problem here, Second, is that you are a very stupid person with less than mediocre writing ability. Try to hide it any way you'd like, but it's very easy to spot when you're ripping off other people's fiction.
I'm sure you've got a little bit of Kevin Drum in there to fill in the spots that weren't in the article, but I'm not trolling that fat useless fuck's board of lies to find it.
Get fucked, you unoriginal, brain dead retard.
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And besides...
What can you do about it? People want to watch shit, they're going to watch shit. Barbie is an objectively average movie. Disney forced people into watching something, anything, that was different than the crap they've been spewing out for the last 4 years.
It looks like Kevin Feige finally got the memo, as it sounds like he plans on rebooting the MCU that nobody is watching anymore.
I don't know about making Fantastic 4's Sue Storm the center of your new universe though, Kevin. You might want to mull that one over a bit more. Are you absolutely sure you want to make Sue Storm your new Captain Marvel when nobody has ever figured out how to put out a Fantastic 4 movie that anybody cares about?
And don't believe all the hype coming from the haters. It's not just the horrible stories you're telling that were penned by awful writers and filmed by inexperienced directors with an agenda that are turning people away. People ARE sick of super hero movies as well.
My advice would be to let the genre go the way of the Western and spend whatever little time and resources you have left to figure out a new way to make money before the only option you have left is selling all of your possessions at an auction and getting a job at WalMart.
EDITED TO ADD:
Vanessa Kirby, though easy on the eyes, is already 35 years old. Are you sure that you want to make a 35 year old woman the center of your rebooted Marvel Universe as well?
Jessica Alba who was 10 times as easy on the eyes (as almost anybody else ever was) was only 24 when the first FF4 movie she starred in was released, and was also the definition of a household name at the time.
Even Kate Mara, a solid 6/10 was 32 when her FF4 movie came out.
Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark, the center of the MCU that people watched, did that role for 11 years. Vanessa Kirby is going to be 46 years old 11 years from now, and possibly 48 years old if it takes two years to put out the first new movie and it goes another 11 years. You'd better hope she ages like Jennifer Connolly or Kate Beckinsale.
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How well did Oppenheimer capture the U.S. decision to drop the bomb?
Here’s the funny thing about the decision to drop the bomb: there was no decision. What do I mean by that? It’s not like a bunch of men sat in a room and they said, “Are we going to drop the bomb or not?” That’s not the way it worked. There was a huge amount of momentum to drop that bomb no matter what. [The U.S.] spent $2 billion on it. In Oppenheimer’s case, he was torn because he worked so hard on it, [and] wanted to know that we could do it. There’s pride involved. There’s ambition. The movie captures that. But it’s not like they’re sitting in a room debating whether to do this. They’re going to do it. There’s a glancing impression that we could have gotten away with not dropping these bombs. That’s not true.
How did the U.S. go from dropping the atomic bombs to calling Japan one of its biggest allies?
The great thing about this country—and it’s not true of every country—is that we are magnanimous in victory. We wanted to create a strong and democratic Japan and working with the Japanese, we succeeded. It was messy. We helped them jumpstart their own economy, and they became our ally pretty quickly against Soviet communism. I’m not saying this was a perfect process. But, by and large, as conquests go, the American conquest of Japan was magnanimous and constructive.
https://time.com/6297240/atomic-bomb-expert-oppenheimer-interview/
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'Barbie' has now grossed $1 billion world wide, 'Indy 5' has not.
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'Barbie' has now grossed $1 billion world wide, 'Indy 5' has not.
Yeah. Mentioned that in the SoF thread a few hours ago. It put up the international numbers I predicted... a little on the low-to-middle end of my predictions. I was thinking more like $128 Million, but it was only $118 Million.
Probably should have put it here.
Glad I didn't call this the Barbie Failure Thread, or I'd be eating a ton of crow right now.
Billion dollars or not, it still looks objectively awful though.
Indy 5? LOL. Can that even make $400 Million at this point? I doubt it.
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A New, Chilling Secret About the Manhattan Project Has Just Been Made Public
Turns out Oppenheimer’s boss lied, repeatedly, about radiation poisoning.
By Fred Kaplan, Aug 08, 2023 3:17 PM
Oppenheimer, director of the Los Alamos lab where the bomb was first tested, kept mum about General Groves’ lie. Groves said radiation had caused no deaths and that claims to the contrary were “propaganda.”
Groves discounted, downplayed, then denied the reports about radiation sickness because the American public would rebel against nuclear weapons if they were seen as something like poison gas—and thus beyond a moral threshold.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/oppenheimer-manhattan-proj
ect-radiation-atomic-bomb-declassified.html
The US exploded hundreds of test nukes inside the US, spreading fallout everywhere, because Oppenheimer was too cowardly to confront the Generals' lies when Oppenheimer could have stopped the tests by telling the public what was happening. He would have lost his security clearance, but he lost it anyway for petty reasons and had nothing to show for the loss.
Radioactive fallout was responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973. Thank you Robert Oppenheimer for your brave refusal to tell anybody. Somebody should make a movie about your tragic struggles with your conscience. (His conscience lost but Oppenheimer became rich and famous, which eased his suffering. In time he killed himself with tobacco, but nicotine made him feel so much better about what he had done to others.)
https://qz.com/1163140/us-nuclear-tests-killed-american-civilians-on-a
-scale-comparable-to-hiroshima-and-nagasaki
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Quote:I would not know any more than about any of the numerous addictive habits you have, retard 6ix. You and Oppenheimer are the kind of people who won't think ahead about the consequences of your decisions. He ended up dying early with a slew of deaths on his conscience while you threw away decades of life.
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I don't think you know how nicotine works.
Oppenheimer's nuclear fallout: How his atomic legacy destroyed my world
Mary Dickson, Aug. 4, 2023
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2023/08/04/oppenheimer-a
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I don't think you know how nicotine works.
Care to rephrase this, or do we just add English to the pile of things that we've established aren't in your wheelhouse?
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'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
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I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
Oppenheimer, as I said, will never make a billion. But the $581 Million it's sitting at is still pretty impressive given its $100 Million budget. They can't be unhappy with these results.
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Quote:20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.
I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.
On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.
For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.
And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international figure with 6 zeroes at the end, and no proven rece
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The Audience Is Losing Its Ability To Watch and Reflect on What They See Onscreen
When Oppenheimer meets with military officers and government officials to decide the targets of the bombings, US Secretary of War Henry Stimson (James Remar) mentions that they shouldn't bomb Kyoto, because that's where he and his wife went on their honeymoon. The line creates an intense awkwardness in the room for many reasons, as well as carries a shocking effect on part of the audience. That's symptomatic of many things in our current era of movie-going, so let's dig into it.
The line itself is indeed shocking, and it's supposed to be. Recently, Oppenheimer writer and director Christopher Nolan revealed that it was improvised by James Remar, who did his own research on the character and found out that Stimson and his wife had indeed honeymooned in Kyoto.
Remar’s work as Secretary Stimson shows how important it is to know and understand a character before playing them. Stimson is a small role, with seconds of screen time in a movie that's three hours long, but has one of the most shocking lines in the whole thing.
So shocking, in fact, that the other actors in the scene didn't know how to react. Originally, the script mentioned Kyoto was to be removed from the bombing list for its cultural significance, but Remar delivers the honeymoon line so casually, it left the rest of the cast speechless. How do you respond to something like that? The movie provides an insightful reflection into the nature of power at the dawn of the nuclear age, and Stimson makes it clear that this kind of destructive power is to be wielded by people who seem to have completely lost touch with their humanity. Only that's not just him, it seems like part of the audience did too.
Stimson sparing Kyoto from destruction because of his honeymoon is a perfect example of how this kind of decision is taken by individuals who aren't really the best people to take them. As decorated as he might have been, he narrowed down the cities that would be destroyed because of his own personal memories, and that's no way to ponder the death of hundreds of thousands of people. It takes power to think of this as trivial, and, usually, those who have it are the least fit to wield it.
His perspective is symptomatic of a worldview that puts his own country so above the rest of the world, he's allowed (and maybe even encouraged) to take decisions that can ultimately kill that many people so casually, especially when it comes to the US military and the idea of American exceptionalism. It sure is nice to see someone who loves their country (and yours truly sure loves his, for example), but when one sees oneself that far above, one often loses touch with what it means to kill, for example. Oppenheimer makes it clear that, after Hitler's suicide, Japan's capitulation was a matter of time and the scientists even start to question whether they should continue their research. But they aren't really the people with power; they do have knowledge, but, contrary to popular belief, those two sometimes aren't the same thing. The military has power and sees its country as so above the rest, the world is literally a playground for people like Stimson to take decisions based on personal memories. But how do you weigh someone's life against a show of power?
We don't have to go far to question that and conclude that, ultimately, we have succumbed to this nationalistic way of looking at the world that people like Stimson helped consolidate in favor of the dominant power. All it takes is going to the movies. Hollywood has a long history of struggling with depicting and talking about the nuclear bombings in World War II, it rarely produces movies that openly criticize it like Oppenheimer does. That's why, for example, it's being compared to Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove, because it's the closest reference most people have. When Hollywood manages to use this as inspiration for tra
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.
I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.
On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.
For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.
And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as long as nobody questions the international fig
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New news on Barbie...
I was watching a recent Film Theory video about Disney in general, but when it brought up the insane production budgets of films today and used Oppenheimer and Barbie as examples with smaller production budgets than most of what Disney has put out this year, they mentioned that Barbie's production budget was just less than $150 Million.
This was news to me since I've been operating under the assumption that Barbie had a $100 Million budget, and that's what The-Numbers has said it was since the beginning.
These sites all disagree with that number and agree with each other that Barbie's Production Budget was $145 Million:
https://collider.com/barbie-movie-box-office-budget/
https://www.entrepreneur.com/growing-a-business/barbie-was-a-marketing
-masterpiece-heres-why/456339
https://www.insider.com/how-much-did-barbie-spend-marketing-box-office
-success-explained-2023-7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbie_(film)
https://www.gamesradar.com/barbie-marketing-budget-higher-movie-budget/
Not only that, but the studio fully admits to a $150 Million Marketing Budget, that is more than the Production Budget.
When calculating the 2.0x Rule of Thumb, that doubling of the Production Budget is not just for including the Marketing Budget, but the theater takes as well, so Barbie actually had to make at least $350 if not $400 Million to break even using the 2.0x rule of thumb. Not $200 Million.
Now... since the 2.0x and 2.5x rule of thumb are broad generalizations, I feel that even with specific evidence in this case that the movie should be held to a different standard, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to just go on applying the 2.0x Rule of Thumb to Barbie like I would any other movie, but this is another great argument for moving on to the 2.5x rule of thumb instead of using the old 2.0x RoT.
That being said, starting with a $145 Million budget instead of a $100 Million budget does change the percentage number list significantly. I will make the adjustment in the SoF thread where I'm keeping track of all of these numbers and reference this post for the change.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:20 days? You mean from Wed 19 July to Monday 7 August?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:I was a day off. It took Barbie 20 days to make a Billion.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:The Box Office is so pathetic that they're pushing two non-related movies together to make headlines like this.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Barbie' and 'Oppenheimer' Clear $1 Billion USD After Only Two Weeks
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/barbie-oppenheimer-clear-1-billion-203
601204.html
Avengers: End Game reached a billion on its own in 5 days.
Avengers: Infinity War: 11 Days.
Spider-Man: No Way Home: 12 Days.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens: 12 Days
Jurassic World: 13 Days
Avatar: The Way of Water 14 Days
More recently, Super Mario Bros took 26 Days.
Barbie will take at least 21 days to hit a Billion
Oppenheimer will never hit 1 Billion.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/254780830-Theater-counts-billion-doll
ar-Barbie-remains-widest-release-for-the-third-consecutive-week
I'm glad you noticed Barbie did not make $Billion until Monday.
I found it amusing on Monday watching Warner scrambling to justify their Fake Claim of $1B by Sunday, when they knew they didn't have prove, like the receipts.
On Sunday, when they were making their Fake claims, they had $406,381,413 from before Friday, plus "projections" of 53M for the weekend, with 17M Friday, 20M Saturday, and 16M on Sunday.
Even though they must have known by that time that they were half Million short on Friday night, and likely also knew the same for Saturday night - they still used this 459,381,413 figure as their Domestic Total for Sunday, 6 August.
For several days, they had had $422M -something listed for their International total.
But on Sunday, without any new country report updates (besides Croatia), they suddenly came up with $531,000,000 for international. Yes, that is right, the grand total for all of the other nations outside USA & Canada ended up with 6 zeroes at the end of the figure, with no discernible location of increase.
Nothing fishy here, folks, this is not the hovercraft you are looking for, never mind the man behind the curtain.
This conveniently totaled $1,000,381,413 Worldwide - without any extra Million to spare.
And that was how the figures were listed on Sunday night.
On Monday, the scrambling began. Most weekdays, Barbie's figures are some of the first to be posted, often by 10am my time (Central). Not this Monday.
Because they knew that they were $1M short on their Friday & Saturday projections, they could not post that they only made $52m for the weekend - that would drop them below $1B total.
Sometime before noon they changed their "projections" for the weekend, from 17, 20, and 16 to new projections of 16.5M Fri, 19.5M Sat, and suddenly 17M Sunday. This still added to $53M for the 3 days, so they bought a little time, until they could admit that their Sunday was likely short.
In order to buy some breathing room for their Fake $1B claim, late in the day they were able to add in some International numbers that they did not have receipts for on Sunday. These nations Box Office reports were dated 7 August - NOT 6 AUGUST - but added about $31M to the total (from 3 listed updated nations, just new numbers from less that a week), and thus gave them some breathing room to admit to the less-than projected numbers from the weekend.
They finally admitted (I think after 5 on Monday) to $16,543,731 on Friday, $19,476,666 on Saturday (still short of the reduced estimate of 19.5 - and only 20K above the reduced Fri/Sat combined estimate of $36M), and then $16,988,250 for Sunday (also short of their revised estimate of $17M). For a total of $53,008,647 for the weekend. If that Sunday figure is an honest number, then that gives them the $53M that they needed from the weekend to claim $1B - as
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I responded to your post in the other thread, regarding my mistaken post about Barbie International figures for weekdays/weekends.
However, you may be confused about the post I made above. The fact that they claimed that they had $1B in Box Office, when they did not have the receipts, and then they were also short on their bloated projections for that weekend, is the pertinent point of my post.
My post above still pertains. If you don't understand it, or disagree, you may elaborate.
I think I am confused, maybe?
Like I said, we're pretty much left in the dark on international receipts and accounting, so I'm sure it's really easy to change those around and make it look like a movie hit $1 Billion before it actually does and not fear losing credibility as long as they know for damn sure that it was going to hit $1 Billion within a few days from the stated date.
If you have evidence to the contrary in this case I'd love to hear more. I heard other online outfits claiming it took Barbie 20 days to hit $1 Billion. The only thing that gives me real pause here, and it's not insignificant, is the extra $31 Million added on Monday morning. I'm not saying that Bruce never adds to the international total twice in a week, but I found that pretty strange, especially when it was hovering right around one Billion that weekend... although with the $118 added on Sunday it had already just crossed $1 Billion by a few bucks.
BTW... did you notice my last post? Barbie's production budget was $145 Million and it was confirmed that its marketing budget was even higher than that at $150 Million. Not only does that bring Barbie down quite a bit on our lists, but it also is great evidence that the 2.0 Rule of Thumb is outdated and the 2.5 Rule of Thumb is more accurate in BidenflationLand. If Barbie's production budget and marketing budget combined already equate to $295 Million, than Barbie needed to make a lot more than only $300 Million to break even when theater takes are accounted for.
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How much are theater takes?
I keep forgetting to ask - have you been archiving the International Box Office pages of Barbie at The Numbers?
Bruce finally just posted the black numbers for Barbie for F,S,S.
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How much are theater takes?
I can't get definitive numbers on that. I've heard 50%. I've heard 40%. I've heard 30%. I've heard that large studios like Disney take the lion's share of the first two weeks in the theaters then only get like 25% on the back end. It also varies wildly from country to country, with China getting a sweetheart deal.
It's just one more reason why the Rule of Thumb is so nebulous.
My guess is that, since we know the Production Budget ballooned to $145 Million and they've come out and said that the marketing was $150 Million (which is surprising because NOBODY ever gives the marketing budget), Barbie needed to make about $375 to $400 Million to break even, and even after that the theaters are taking a much larger dollar amount from the total box office than any other movies this year outside of SMB and to a smaller extent Guardians 3, simply because of how much damn money its making.
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I keep forgetting to ask - have you been archiving the International Box Office pages of Barbie at The Numbers?
No. I haven't. The closest we've got to that is my rounded numbers for Barbie once per week on the weekly lists, or the percentage over budget (which was all rounded to the nearest million to get), and then converting that to a dollar figure and subtracting the domestic share on that given day. It won't give you the exact numbers, but it would be somewhere in the immediate ballpark.
I don't really feel the need to do it since we can't see what is on the other side of the international equation anyhow.
But I really wish I did it when MI7 got something in the area of $275 Million added to its China box office one night only to have it completely removed the very next morning. I hope Tom Cruise didn't see that and celebrate. It bumped MI7 to over $700 Million for one night and then it went right back down to under $500 Million the next morning. That was maybe like 10 days ago or something, and it's still around $200 Million less than it was that one single night on The Numbers.
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Afer 3 weeks in theaters, Algeria is the latest to Ban Barbie, mostly due to the GAY and Woke parts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/08/15/barbie-banned-in-alge
ria-heres-where-else-you-cant-see-the-box-office-hit/?sh=724ef1d565b9
https://www.nme.com/news/film/heres-every-country-barbie-banned-348344
7
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/16/barbie-movie-banned-in-what-countries
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/all-the-countries-that-
have-banned-the-barbie-movie/ar-AA1fp7HX
Uncle Walt would be so proud.
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Afer 3 weeks in theaters, Algeria is the latest to Ban Barbie, mostly due to the GAY and Woke parts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/08/15/barbie-banned-in-alge
ria-heres-where-else-you-cant-see-the-box-office-hit/?sh=724ef1d565b9
https://www.nme.com/news/film/heres-every-country-barbie-banned-348344
7
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/16/barbie-movie-banned-in-what-countries
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/all-the-countries-that-
have-banned-the-barbie-movie/ar-AA1fp7HX
Uncle Walt would be so proud.
Fuck Uncle Walt, this flick was made by Warner Brothers. All of the flick that have been made at Uncle Walt's old company have been flops. I'm not going to ever see 'Barbie' BUT, I'm glad it turned 'Indy 5' into a bucket of goo.
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Yeah. Not all things woke are Disney. Not even hardly.
Sadly, they're not all failures either.
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Quote:My bad.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. Not all things woke are Disney. Not even hardly.
Sadly, they're not all failures either.
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I has become so difficult to see a difference between WokeSayGay Disney films and WokeSayGay Warner films.
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Barbie International figures bounced around again.
Still nonsense is the China numbers - the screens and engagements make no sense here at all.
China reduced it's figure from the report a few days ago. So the total International figure lowered by the same amount.
Estonia was added to the roster.
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Barbie International figures bounced around again.
Expect that to go on for MONTHS.
Ever since Super Mario Bros. dropped so low that it couldn't make a 1% bump in a day, the international numbers have gone up and down as much as 4 times in a week. Just last week sometime it had fallen to 1,356% or so, which would have been low enough to require $1 Million less from SoF to beat it, but I believe it's back up to 1,359% again right now.
Guardians of the Galaxy had several weeks in a row where it lost money for the worldwide total even though it was still pulling in Domestic numbers. Then one week it gained $1 or $2 Million. Hell... the most dramatic I saw was a week where The Boogeyman pulled in $10 Million even though in the US it had only made $1 to $2 Million... something that wouldn't be as noticeable with a movie making hundreds of millions in the theater, but was pretty easy to spot on a $35 Million Budget flick with somewhere in the area of $80 Million in Box Office receipts.
I'll bet this isn't a new phenomena. We just didn't know about it because we weren't paying attention like we are right now.
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Still nonsense is the China numbers - the screens and engagements make no sense here at all.
China reduced it's figure from the report a few days ago. So the total International figure lowered by the same amount.
Yeah... They have a TON of screens. I was only half-joking when I was talking about Sound of Freedom being played on the backs of barns in South Africa, because that's probably what they do in China. I'm sure they have something resembling actual movie theaters that we have here, but there's no way there's like 43,000+ screens in China that are in actual buildings. (I see there are only 27,000+ of them used for Barbie, but I've seen as high as 43k).
Who knows how they show movies out there?
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Estonia was added to the roster.
Not sure what you mean by that. The-Numbers said it opened in Estonia on 07/21.
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This is terrifying and hilarious at the same time.
And it's self aware...? "This is what you guys call music? Well I'll be damned."
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This is terrifying and hilarious at the same time.
And it's self aware...? "This is what you guys call music? Well I'll be damned."
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This is why the SAG went on strike.
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Yup. One of the reasons.
The woke diversity hire writers that took over in full force in 2016 are easily replaced by AI.
That program straight up sounds just like Johnny Cash, singing a song that he never would have sung in a million years.
None of these people who are currently being theatened by AI gave one single shit about both blue and white collar workers who've lost their jobs to computers, robots and outsourcing in the last 20 years.
Fuck them. I'm looking forward to seeing how much better entertainment gets after AI replaces them. It can't get any worse.
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Glad cinema is back making money
I'm still kinda shocked these were some of the biggest movies of the year
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Glad cinema is back making money
I'm still kinda shocked these were some of the biggest movies of the year
Yeah. I'm never going to understand the whole Barbieheimer thing. It almost seemed like a psyop.
I'm not sure they're "back making money" though.
If you're Universal, A24 or Angel Studios, you're probably pretty thrilled with how 2023 went.
If you're SONY, you're probably disappointed, but still happy that it didn't go as bad as it could have.
If you're Warner Bros., you're breathing a sigh of relief that you had Barbie, Evil Dead Rise and The Nun II this year to offset all three of your Superhero movie flops and still come out making money.
If you're United Artists, you're glad you only made Creed III and it did well.
If you're Walt Disney, Paramount Pictures, Focus Features, Lionsgate, 20th Century Studios, Amazon Pictures or MGM, you're currently figuring out who you're going to lay off.
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After 110 days in the movie theaters, the Pirates finally have a good copy of Oppenheimer:
https://yts.mx/movies/oppenheimer-2023
Barbie was pirated two months ago:
https://yts.mx/movies/barbie-2023
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Oppenheimer’s Digital Release Finally Revealed After A Long Theatrical Run
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2023/10/17/oppenheimers-dig
ital-release-finally-revealed-after-a-long-theatrical-run/?sh=177b388856c1
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Four months after its theatrical premiere on July 21, Oppenheimer has finally set a digital release date for November 21, 2023.
That's an illegally leaked copy. Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.
You can preorder on Amazon or at the official movie site here:
https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/
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Quote:The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children. It is kind of an inconvenient fact that Oppenheimer could have gone to the newspapers and told them that atmospheric tests of bombs release radiation. Oppie would have lost his top-secret security clearance, but he would have saved many lives. He decided not to go to the press and it was not at all ironic that he still lost his security clearance.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.
U.S. Nuclear Test Killed Far More Civilians Than We Knew
Hundreds of thousands of civilians were poisoned by irradiated milk, raising the previously estimated toll by a huge factor.
December 21, 2017
When the U.S. entered the nuclear age, it did so recklessly. New research suggests that the hidden cost of developing nuclear weapons were far larger than previous estimates, with radioactive fallout responsible for 340,000 to 690,000 American deaths from 1951 to 1973.
The study, performed by University of Arizona economist Keith Meyers , uses a novel method (pdf) to trace the deadly effects of this radiation, which was often consumed by Americans drinking milk far from the site of atomic tests.
From 1951 to 1963, the U.S. tested nuclear weapons above ground in Nevada. Weapons researchers, not understanding the risks—or simply ignoring them—exposed thousands of workers to radioactive fallout. The emissions from nuclear reactions are deadly to humans in high doses, and can cause cancer even in low doses. At one point, researchers had volunteers stand underneath an airburst nuclear weapon to prove how safe it was : Oppenheimer knew this was bullshit but he kept quiet about the real deaths that were inevitable because he wanted to remain in his powerful government position.
The emissions, however, did not just stay at the test site, and drifted in the atmosphere. Cancer rates spiked in nearby communities, and the US government could no longer pretend that fallout was anything but a silent killer.
https://www.govexec.com/technology/2017/12/us-nuclear-test-killed-far-
more-civilians-then-we-knew/144762/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.
Oh fuck off dude.
We get it. You're a pirate.
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Quote:I guess you didn't understand that Oppenheimer had a guilty conscience for nuking Japanese women and children, despite that being the entire movie, but Oppie didn't feel enough guilt to tell the US newspapers that above-ground bomb tests would kill American women and children.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.
Oh fuck off dude.
We get it. You're a pirate.
ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
I didn't pirate this movie, but 6ixStringJack is too stupid to understand that. Oppie actually was there when the A-bombs were designed, built, and tested. He and all the other people who knew what was being built were guilty of mass murder, in two nations, Japan and the USA. (I never heard any of the thousands knowledgeably involved who admitted to what they actually did, other than Oppie. Kudos to him.) I was nowhere near the pirates who copied the movie, compressed/transcoded the movie, and delivered it. I am not guilty of piracy.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I guess you didn't understand that Oppenheimer had a guilty conscience for nuking Japanese women and children, despite that being the entire movie, but Oppie didn't feel enough guilt to tell the US newspapers that above-ground bomb tests would kill American women and children.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The other part of Nolan's contract requires him to ignore that Oppenheimer killed more American children than Japanese children.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Part of Nolan's contract is that the movie would have a 120 day theatrical run before it was released for online purchase or on BluRay/DVD.
Oh fuck off dude.
We get it. You're a pirate.
ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
I don't care. I didn't see the movie. I probably won't see the movie. I've seen possibly only one movie on the list of movies I've been tracking in 2023.
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I didn't pirate this movie, but 6ixStringJack is too stupid to understand that.
You pirate everything from books to movies to even Firefly comic books and litter Haken's site with illegal downloads. Why would anyone assume you didn't pirate this?
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Oppie actually was there when the A-bombs were designed, built, and tested. He and all the other people who knew what was being built were guilty of mass murder, in two nations, Japan and the USA. (I never heard any of the thousands knowledgeably involved who admitted to what they actually did, other than Oppie. Kudos to him.) I was nowhere near the pirates who copied the movie, compressed/transcoded the movie, and delivered it. I am not guilty of piracy.
You don't need to be the person who rips and uploads something to be a pirate. Downloading a pirated movie, book or comic book is piracy. Simply posting links to illegal downloads of others' intellectual property is piracy.
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Online piracy or software piracy is the practice of downloading and distributing copyrighted works digitally without permission, such as music or software.
Now I'm not sitting at your house watching you actually download anything you've posted here, so nobody here could testify in court that you have actually downloaded anything. But simply by posting links to the downloads you are engaged in distribution of said illegal downloads, and by extension you make Haken an unwitting accomplice in that act.
Do what you want to do man. I don't care. But you continually posting links to illegal downloads of copyrighted material on a website that requires no login and can be searched on Google, as I've mentioned before, puts Haken in a possible bad spot since he probably isn't even aware that you do it all the time and he doesn't have anybody in charge of moderating this site to take down those links and boot people who keep posting them.
If you think I'm making a big deal out of nothing, as an experiment, I'd suggest you create a reddit account and go to the r/boxoffice forum and post the links to your movies there and see how quickly your links get taken down and your account is banned.
I don't think that in 2023 Haken would ever face any costly legal battles over this, but if he were to get takedown notices from the lawyers of copyright holders, you'd be insane to expect or even to think that he'd take a stand and tell them to fuck off. So what do you think his first course of action to comply is going to be?
Do you think he's going to take the massive amount of time out of his personal life to go through hundreds of thousands of old posts looking for all the illegal pirate links, or do you think he'd just take down the entire fff.net site and be done with it?
We're lucky Haken even keeps the lights on here in 2023. And every time you post a pirated link on his site you're spitting in his face.
It's like I'm talkin
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