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Sunday, July 16, 2023 5:35 AM

RFK Jr. suggested COVID is a Chinese bioweapon “ethnically targeted” to “attack Caucasians and Black people” and to spare “Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese” people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-covid-19-ethnically-ta
rgeted-00106478


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Sunday, July 16, 2023 4:29 PM

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Originally posted by second:
RFK Jr. suggested COVID is a Chinese bioweapon “ethnically targeted” to “attack Caucasians and Black people” and to spare “Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese” people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-covid-19-ethnically-ta
rgeted-00106478


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





Right, he's nuts.

T

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Sunday, July 16, 2023 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

Right, he's nuts.

T


But RFK Jr. is smart enough to say that's not what he really meant to say. He really meant it and only regrets the words that escaped his mouth. Once he is President, the craziness inside RFK Jr., without apology, will come out as it did with Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 16, 2023 9:02 PM

Trump described as 'most evil person I've ever met' by member of his own cabinet

Miles Taylor, who worked for the former President, wrote on Twitter Tuesday that one Trump cabinet official even went so far as to describe the former president as "evil."

"I’ll never forget an ex-Trump cabinet member telling me: 'He is truly the most evil person I have ever met,'" Taylor wrote. "We cannot make this mistake again."

Although Taylor did not identify this former cabinet official by name, he did follow up with a quote from former Trump chief of staff John Kelly, who offered a similarly withering assessment of the former president's character.

https://www.rawstory.com/miles-taylor-trump/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, July 16, 2023 11:24 PM

The 2024 Election Is a Fight Over America’s Way of Life
GOP voters see a country corrupted by liberal ideals

It's natural for Republicans to dislike the Democratic agenda and vice versa. But check out these Republican quotes from a Wall Street Journal story:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-2024-election-is-a-fight-over-america
s-way-of-life-36d09b18?st=lr1qr5b0makpwwb&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


“It’s like half the country has lost their minds. People don’t even know what gender they are.”...If Republicans lose again, “it’s going to be the downfall of our society.”

“We have lost our K-12 schools to radical-left activists. We’ve certainly lost our universities to the same, and other institutions. Everyday Americans,” are being forced “to bend your knee to the rainbow flag.”

“Our base believes that we’re losing our country, and that the left has become radicalized to a point that they no longer believe in America and want to burn it all down and remake it in their image.”

About 80% of Republicans believe that the Democratic agenda, “if not stopped, will destroy America as we know it.”

"Downfall." "Bend your knee." "Burn it all down." "Destroy America." The apocalyptic language is what makes things so toxic these days. If you truly believe that Democrats deliberately want to destroy America, what wouldn't you do or believe to defeat them?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, July 17, 2023 1:34 AM

In Adam Smith’s famed 1776 disquisition on economics, “The Wealth of Nations,” he ponders the behavior of the “great proprietors” of feudalism. They owned the most valuable property available — i.e., land — and with their income from this property supported a class of attendants and retainers, and, below them, a class of tenants of the land.

But the proprietors gradually lost the taste for this. They eventually wished to consume “the whole surplus produce of their lands … without sharing it either with tenants or retainers. All for ourselves and nothing for other people, seems, in every age of the world, to have been the vile maxim of the masters of mankind.”

“The Wealth of Nations” is full of this kind of ferocious criticism of the psychology of the powerful, so it’s peculiar how today’s powerful champion the book so frequently. There was even a vogue among male members of the Reagan administration for wearing ties with little pictures of Adam Smith. The most likely explanation here is America’s top apparatchiks don’t waste their time reading stuff.

In any case, Smith’s perspective was generally correct: both about the way societies can develop three different tiers, and the overall view of the people at the top of them. Their vile maxim — all for ourselves and nothing for other people — seems to be reaching a level of virulence Americans haven’t experienced in living memory.

Like feudal England, America has, roughly speaking, three classes. At the top are today’s great proprietors. The basis of their wealth is no longer mainly held in land but in direct ownership of their own businesses plus financial instruments including corporate stocks and bonds. The top 1 percent owns over half of U.S. corporate stock.

The people just below them are no longer attendants and retainers but technocrats. They’re the people who go to school to develop the specialized skills that are necessary to keep society running day to day: doctors, lawyers, scientists, computer programmers, engineers. (Journalists are also technocrats but among the weakest of the group.) The rest of the top 10 percent — i.e., the 9 percent — owns almost all the rest of U.S. corporate stock.

Then there’s everyone else. They’re no longer tenant farmers, but they still have to get up every day and clock in at Home Depot and Walgreens and Chipotle to cultivate the possessions of the great proprietors. This working class has the least leverage and the fewest options.

In retrospect, it’s clear America’s masters of mankind were shocked enough by World War II to dial the vile maxim back. As President Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in his 1944 State of the Union address, “Necessitous men are not free men. People who are hungry, people who are out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.” Even if you were the son of a National City Bank executive destined to follow in your father’s executive footsteps, you would be able to hear Roosevelt’s message after spending time facedown in the mud on Okinawa, covered in your platoonmate’s viscera.

Thus the great proprietors were willing to share quite a bit with the bottom two classes — for a while. During the three decades after the war, median wages went up hand in hand with productivity. That is, as America overall got richer, so did regular people.

But by the 1970s, the great proprietors had gotten tired of this arrangement. The generation with direct adult experience of how destabilized societies can explode into a worldwide slaughterhouse was retiring and dying.

So the masters of mankind decided to alter the deal vis-à-vis the working class. This was such a gargantuan success, it’s amazing they pulled it off without bloodshed. If the minimum wage had continued to go up in step with productivity, it would now be not $7.25 but about $25 an hour. A recent RAND study found that if the U.S. had remained as equitable as it was in 1975 for the next 43 years through 2018, the bottom 90 percent of Americans would have earned an extra $47 trillion. Instead that money flowed in a great flo

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THG
Monday, July 17, 2023 3:36 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THG:

Right, he's nuts.

T


But RFK Jr. is smart enough to say that's not what he really meant to say. He really meant it and only regrets the words that escaped his mouth. Once he is President, the craziness inside RFK Jr., without apology, will come out as it did with Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





After Trump, I think the country is wise to any double talk coming from RFK. He looks like an idiot. To me anyway.

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Monday, July 17, 2023 5:11 AM

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Monday, July 17, 2023 5:22 AM

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Monday, July 17, 2023 5:26 AM

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DeSantis Fires Roughly A Dozen Staffers With More On The Way

Sunday, Jul 16, 2023 - 03:35 PM

The 2024 presidential campaign of Ron DeSantis (R) has fired roughly a dozen staffers, with more 'expected in the coming weeks,' after the Florida governor has failed to gain ground on former President Donald Trump less than two months after he entered the race.



DNC/central committee dems are afraid of RFK, so they attack him

GOP/central committee repubs are afraid of Trump, so they attack HIM.

What they don't realize is that being attacked by TPTB is, to some voters, a badge of honor and validation of the candidates' vote-worthiness.

Seriously, central committees, get a grip.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Monday, July 17, 2023 5:43 AM

Donald Trump brands US a 'third-world hellhole' run by 'perverts' and 'thugs'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-t
rump-florida-us-2024-b2376034.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, July 17, 2023 9:08 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump brands US a 'third-world hellhole' run by 'perverts' and 'thugs'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-t
rump-florida-us-2024-b2376034.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Biden* is a thug and Hunter is a pervert, and many areas of our once -liveable cities are indeed hellholes.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Monday, July 17, 2023 6:28 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Biden* is a thug and Hunter is a pervert, and many areas of our once -liveable cities are indeed hellholes.

The creators of hellholes live in the city, the county, and the state and it is their responsibility to fix their problems, not the Federal government. But the problem makers think the White House, not themselves, must fix their problem, which is why there are unfixable problems, to begin with.

History explains insults from Trumptards such as Signym and 6ix: Abraham Lincoln probably would have loved the irony. The president so grandly memorialized in marble today was savagely maligned in his own time -- far more than any modern presidential candidate. "Filthy Story-Teller," he was branded during his reelection campaign in 1864. His opponents called him Ignoramus Abe, despot, liar, thief, braggart, buffoon, usurper, monster, old scoundrel, perjurer, robber, swindler, tyrant, fiend and butcher. And those were just the insults from the North. The rebellious South, literally at war with Lincoln, had its own arsenal. No matter how nasty, how "negative" or personal the intensifying contest between President Clinton and Robert J. Dole may become, it almost certainly will not compare with the viciousness that defined Lincoln's presidential campaign and many others almost from the time the office first was contested. For all the complaints about modern campaigns, presidential races today are positively tame compared with the venom that was spewed almost from the beginning. By the end of George Washington's two-term presidency, partisan politics were emerging, and not even the revered father of the new country was immune from their blistering sting. "If ever a nation has been debauched by a man," wrote Benjamin Franklin Bache, Ben Franklin's grandson, "the American nation has been debauched by Washington." George-bashing by Bache and others was an inevitable result of budding political factionalism represented by Washington's heir apparent, Vice President John Adams, and his opponent in 1796, Thomas Jefferson. It was the dawn of a virulent American tradition.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/1996/09/11/when-politics-was-re
ally-ugly/dd3cd4b8-5e85-44de-a795-36e211c1a032
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 17, 2023 6:36 PM

The far right’s war on “woke” has real-world consequences for the military

Alabama Sen. Tommy Tuberville has held up the confirmation of more than 260 generals for new command posts — including members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the head of the Marine Corps — over his objections to the Pentagon’s abortion policy.

Tuberville, a former football coach who is closely allied with former President Donald Trump, has refused to go forward with the routine confirmations and is essentially using defense policy as leverage to promote his cultural ideology. But the Department of Defense has repeatedly warned that holding up the confirmations is damaging the military’s chain of command at the highest levels.

Any senator can hold up these confirmations, even if the other 99 wish to move forward with them, because of the Senate concept of unanimous consent. The Senate has long relied on unanimous consent to promote military personnel through batch confirmations, but with Tuberville’s hold, the only way to move the confirmations forward would be to vote on them one by one, through regular order. Sen. Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island and the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told the Associated Press that doing so would take up to 84 days with the chamber working regular, eight-hour days, or 27 days if they worked “around the clock.”

Tuberville’s hold, which could affect 650 military promotions by the year’s end, is based on a misrepresentation of how the Pentagon’s abortion policy works. And he isn’t the only Republican using legislation related to the military to force right-wing policies into defense policy.

More at https://www.vox.com/2023/7/16/23793775/republican-wokeness-pentagon-mi
litary-tuberville


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, July 18, 2023 1:03 AM

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DeSantis Fires Roughly A Dozen Staffers With More On The Way

Sunday, Jul 16, 2023 - 03:35 PM

The 2024 presidential campaign of Ron DeSantis (R) has fired roughly a dozen staffers, with more 'expected in the coming weeks,' after the Florida governor has failed to gain ground on former President Donald Trump less than two months after he entered the race.



DNC/central committee dems are afraid of RFK, so they attack him

GOP/central committee repubs are afraid of Trump, so they attack HIM.

What they don't realize is that being attacked by TPTB is, to some voters, a badge of honor and validation of the candidates' vote-worthiness.

Seriously, central committees, get a grip.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM






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Tuesday, July 18, 2023 2:33 AM

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Tuesday, July 18, 2023 8:11 AM

The weather is one of the most important political issues. If the GOP wins control of the White House and Congress next year, it will dismantle the green energy subsidies enacted by the Biden administration that lead to a major reduction in emissions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, July 18, 2023 8:29 AM

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CHRIS CHRISTIE LAUNCHES SCATHING ATTACK..




Exactly as I posted.

And you think what Chris Christie says is important to me? Dood, not pledged to the GOP and Christie can flush himself for all I care.



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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 4:57 PM

The revolutionary Republicans who are determined to establish a Judeo-Christian theocracy in Tennessee

Is Tennessee a Democracy?

by Anne Applebaum

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/tennessee-republican
-partisanship-one-party-state/674732
/

What happened when a Republican supermajority gained control—and wasn’t satisfied

Drive along the outer rim of the exurbs north of Nashville, past structures that might be barns or might be wedding venues, around developments called Vineyard Grove or New Hope Village, and eventually you will arrive at what is meant to be the new headquarters of the election commission of Sumner County, Tennessee. A featureless one-story brick warehouse with some makeshift offices attached, it has just enough space for the tiny handful of election-commission employees, the 275 voting machines that they recently purchased, and maybe some of the maintenance workers who used to share rooms with them, back when the agency was still in the basement of the county-administration building.

Dusty picnic tables crowd against the wall. An elementary school stands a few hundred yards away. Nothing about this building or its location screams “controversy.” But when Sumner County’s local elections brought a faction that calls itself the Constitutional Republicans to power last year, that is what it nevertheless became.

To fully grasp this story, you need to understand that the standard forms of American political polarization don’t exist in Sumner, a rural but rapidly suburbanizing county where Democrats are not part of the equation at all. None has won any county office for more than two decades. Instead, the main opponents of the Constitutional Republicans, who won 14 out of 17 seats on the county commission (following a general election in which only 15 percent of eligible voters cast ballots), are the ordinary Republicans—or, as their opponents would call them, RINOs (“Republicans in name only”). The Constitutional Republicans’ website explains that RINOs are different from themselves: “They raise taxes, they vote to silence the citizens, they won’t protect private property rights. They often partner with Democrats to defeat true Constitutional Republicans like us.”

Upon taking over the county commission, the Constitutional Republicans issued a document formally declaring that their activities will be “reflective of Judeo-Christian values inherent in the nation’s founding.” They also shut down the HR department, tried to privatize a public historic building, and refused to pay for the election commission’s move to the brick building, although it had been agreed on by the previous administration. The old offices—three basement rooms that recently flooded—were too small to store the new voting machines, and also insecure. The entrance to the basement stood right beside a cashier’s window where dozens of people were lined up to pay taxes on the day I visited. The county commissioners are unmoved by those arguments. “If we don’t fund it, you don’t get to do it,” Jeremy Mansfield, one of the Constitutional Republicans on the county commission, told the election commission at one public meeting about the move last fall. At a meeting in June, another county commissioner, angered because the new voting machines had been delivered to the new building, said that although he would “hate to pull the ace card,” the commission could always “declare this property surplus, and sell it.” That would leave the election commission, and its machines, with nowhere to go.

The building seems a small thing to get worked up about. But Facebook posts and videos of public meetings, all available online—the Constitutional Republicans are very transparent—make clear that this is not a trivial jurisdictional dispute and these are not petty people. They have ambitions and interests that extend well beyond their county. Their Facebook page reacted to the news of Donald Trump’s latest indictment by declaring, “The Biden family is an organized crime family,” and “Our justice system is rigged against Trump.

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Wednesday, July 19, 2023 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Is Tennessee a Democracy?



A question that Democrats always ask when they don't like the results of elections after people wake up and vote against their policies that ruin lives.



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THG
Thursday, July 20, 2023 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Is Tennessee a Democracy?



A question that Democrats always ask when they don't like the results of elections after people wake up and vote against their policies that ruin lives.






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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's words used against her in Biden campaign ad





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THG
Thursday, July 20, 2023 6:51 AM

Game over

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Thursday, July 20, 2023 11:37 AM

LOL

Fuck Maddow.

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Thursday, July 20, 2023 5:13 PM

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LOL

Fuck Maddow.

Trump has a plan to become America's Julius Caesar. He is preparing to massively expand the power of the presidency.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-plans-to-massively-expand-exec
utive-power-if-elected-report-says


Big Caesars and Little Caesars by Ferdinand Mount review

A needle-sharp book about political liabilities from Julius Caesar to Donald Trump

Wed 19 Jul 2023 07.00 EDT

One by one, the toxic giants have come crashing to earth. In the last month or so Boris Johnson has quit, Donald Trump has been arraigned on felony charges, Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi has died, and even Vladimir Putin looks significantly weaker than he did. It’s sorely tempting to conclude that the chaotic ride of recent years is finally over, and life might return to something more like normal.

But that, according to Ferdinand Mount’s absorbing tour of populist rogues through the ages, would be a rookie mistake. It may be comforting to think of so-called Caesars – a type of leader defined by what Mount calls his (and it’s mostly, though not invariably, his) “relentless egotism, his lack of scruple, his thoughtless brutality, his cheesy glitz” and above all his loathing of democratic checks and balances – as freakish aberrations from a generally orderly norm. But trace the line from ancient Rome to Oliver Cromwell, from Napoleon Bonaparte to modern-day strongmen, and it becomes obvious that they are a regularly recurring phenomenon for which nations just as regularly fall, and from which they don’t recover overnight. “These ill-starred comets,” Mount writes, “leave a long trail of debris.” But they also have something to teach us about stopping the next Caesar early.

Few are better qualified to take the long view than Mount, the sort of Tory who has done everything – run Margaret Thatcher’s policy unit, been political editor of the Spectator – and knows everyone, without feeling the need to go on about it endlessly. He is also the sort of Tory who voted remain, believes in rules-based world order, and writes skilfully enough to get away with comparing Julius Caesar’s public agonising over whether to cross the Rubicon – and thus start a war that risked destroying the Roman empire – with Johnson’s famous writing of two articles on Brexit, one for and one against. (The original Caesar, he argues, never seriously wobbled; he just wanted to suggest that he’d been nobly wrestling with his conscience when in reality he was always going to do what suited him best, ditto our former prime minister. One can’t help feeling the classicist in Johnson might have loved this book, were it not so rude about him.) For conventional politicians, Mount notes, charisma can be a useful communications tool. But in a Caesar’s hands, the ability to dazzle his way out of trouble becomes “a license to go beyond, to break the rules … he is beyond good and evil, and beyond a lot of other boring stuff too”. The true Caesar, Mount writes, feels “dangerously free”.

Admittedly, one or two of the historical comparisons feel like something of a stretch. But the power of this needle-sharp book lies in the acuity of its observations and in its ability to zoom out and see modern politicians in broader context, bringing something both fresh and timeless to an otherwise well-worn subject. When it first crossed my desk, I wondered if the world really needed another book on the dangers of populism. Then Johnson resigned and unleashed a Trumpian attack on the MPs who found him guilty of lying, and I wondered whether you can’t have too many. Every MP should be made to read its rousing final chapter, on the importance of a properly muscular and sovereign parliament in defending democracies against Caesarism.

For if the five acts he identifies as Johnsonian assaults on democracy – including attacks on the civil service, curbs on the right to protest and bringing in compulsory voter ID for elections, which Mount sees as outright voter suppression – haven’t ex

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THG
Friday, July 21, 2023 4:52 AM

Brutal New Poll Shows Trump Losing Big to Biden, Even With Third Party Spoiler

Anew Monmouth University poll suggests that former president Donald Trump would be easily dispatched by President Joe Biden in a 2024 rematch of the 2020 presidential election, even if Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) were to mount a third party bid that most analysts believe would hamper the Biden campaign.

In the national survey of 910 voters, 47% of voters said they would definitely or probably support Biden, while just 40% said they would back Trump.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/brutal-new-poll-shows-trump-lo
sing-big-to-biden-even-with-third-party-spoiler/ar-AA1e8d2Z?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=1f7b598fb8d24b3180a3ada146e64827&ei=51




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Friday, July 21, 2023 6:08 AM

Thanks to the Republican Party, Florida Schools Will Teach How Slavery Brought ‘Personal Benefit’ to Black People

The Florida Board of Education has approved shocking new standards for African American history, despite overwhelming backlash from the public.

By Allison Quinn, Published Jul. 20, 2023 8:31AM EDT

Middle school students in Florida will soon be taught that slavery gave Black people a “personal benefit” because they “developed skills.”

After the Florida Board of Education approved new standards for African American history on Wednesday, high school students will be taught an equally distorted message: that a deadly white mob attack against Black residents of Ocoee, Florida, in 1920 included “acts of violence perpetrated against and by African Americans.”

Dozens of Black residents were killed in the massacre, which was perpetrated to stop them from voting.

According to members of the board, that distorted portrayal of the racist massacre is factually accurate. MaryLynn Magar, a member of the board appointed by Gov. Ron DeSantis, said at the board’s meeting in Orlando on Wednesday that “everything is there” in the new history standards and “the darkest parts of our history are addressed,” the Tallahassee Democrat reported.

The majority of the speakers who provided public testimony on the planned curriculum were vehemently opposed to it, warning that crucial context is omitted, atrocities are glossed over, and in some cases students will be taught to “blame the victim.”

“I am very concerned by these standards, especially some of the notion that enslaved people benefited from being enslaved,” state Rep. Anna Eskamani (D-Orlando) said, per Action News Jax.

“When I see the standards, I’m very concerned,” state Sen. Geraldine Thompson said at the board meeting. “If I were still a professor, I would do what I did very infrequently; I’d have to give this a grade of ‘I’ for incomplete. It recognizes that we have made an effort, we’ve taken a step. However, this history needs to be comprehensive. It needs to be authentic, and it needs additional work.”

“When you look at the history currently, it suggests that the [Ocoee] massacre was sparked by violence from African Americans. That’s blaming the victim,” the Democrat warned.

“Please table this rule and revise it to make sure that my history, our history, is being told factually and completely, and please do not, for the love of God, tell kids that slavery was beneficial because I guarantee you it most certainly was not,” community member Kevin Parker said.

Approval of the new standards is a win for the DeSantis administration, which has effectively sought to create a new educational agenda that shields white students from feeling any sense of guilt for wrongs perpetrated against people of color. The Florida governor signed the “Stop WOKE Act” last year to do just that, restricting how issues of race are taught in public schools and workplaces.

In keeping with the administration’s crusade against “wokeness,” Education Commissioner Manny Diaz defended the new standards against criticism, saying, “This is an in-depth, deep dive into African American history, which is clearly American history as Governor DeSantis has said, and what Florida has done is expand it,” Action News Jax reported.

Paul Burns, the Florida Department of Education’s chancellor of K-12 public schools, also insisted the new standards provide an exhaustive representation of African American history.

“Our standards are factual, objective standards that really teach the good, the bad and the ugly,” he was quoted as saying Wednesday by Florida Phoenix. He denied the new standards portray slavery as beneficial.

Although education officials say teachers are meant to expand upon the new curriculum in the classroom, critics say teachers are unlikely to do that for fear of being singled out and possibly punished for being too “woke.”

The Florida Education Association, the state’s largest teachers union, called the new standards “a big step backward f

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Friday, July 21, 2023 6:24 AM

Good on them, normally I think the party stupid but to give credit Republicans originally helped Free the Slaves and now they might even help tell the truth of it all.


Yup there is truth to it, every writing you dig up every historical archeological find you will see slavery has been a natural state of the human race for thousands of years, it seems cruel and uncivilized today but almost everywhere you look South America, Asia, Africa, Europe, North America one tribe beat the other and often took them as slaves, North African Arabs had slaves, the Jewish sold people, the Pagan Romans and Greek had slaves, the Shinto Japanese and Buddhist, the Hindu Indians, the Russians, Ottoman Turks everyone had slaves or took slaves

"Africans sold other Africans into slavery"



but when the truth becomes uncomfortable and politically incorrect it causes minds to go into cognitive dissonance and almost short circuit?

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Friday, July 21, 2023 6:34 AM

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but when the truth becomes uncomfortable and politically incorrect it causes minds to go into cognitive dissonance and almost short circuit?

Daughter: So, I started dating this guy...he seems to have a lot of money...

Mom: That's nice

Daughter: But he's got sexual assault accusations.

Mom: What?

Daughter: In fact more than 20.

Mom: WHAT?

Daughter: Well he's only been found guilty of one...

Mom: *speechless, sputtering*

Daughter: And he's declared bankruptcy 6 times.

Mom: WHY WOULD YOU DATE THIS MAN?!?

Daughter: Well, you voted for him for president...

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 12:05 AM

PA city demands Trump cough up thousands owed from 2018 rally before he returns again

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pa-city-demands-trump-cough-up
-thousands-owed-from-2018-rally-before-he-returns-again/ar-AA1eidsY?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f9307268b3d44a70911b8eecf1f30feb&ei=43




You can add deadbeat when describing Trump.

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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 12:58 AM

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Christie responds to Trump fundraising boost amid legal battles





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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 1:03 AM

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Chris Christie: Donald Trump is a ‘con artist,’ conning people out of their money





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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 1:41 AM

tick tock

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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 3:12 AM

Special counsel Jack Smith’s office has asked former US officials about a February 2020 Oval Office meeting where then-President
Special counsel scrutinizing February 2020 meeting where Trump praised US election security protections

Donald Trump praised improvements to the security of US elections, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

In the meeting with senior US officials and White House staff, Trump touted his administration’s work to expand the use of paper ballots and support security audits of vote tallies. Trump was so encouraged by federal efforts to protect election systems that he suggested the FBI and Department of Homeland Security hold a press conference to take credit for the work, four people familiar with the meeting told CNN.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-scrutinizing-f
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Isn't that nice.

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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 8:43 PM





Jack, send Trump more money. Yes, he is a billionaire but still, you should help pay his lawyer fees. You could win a prize. Two tickets to one of his debates.



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Wednesday, July 26, 2023 7:23 PM

Kennedy Jr., whose candidacy has been praised by a who’s who of right-wing provocateurs like Tucker Carlson, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn and Charlie Kirk, dismissed the idea that Russia would lose the war it started.

“It would be like us losing a war to Mexico,” he said. “They are not going to lose the war.”

Fox host Sean Hannity pushed back at RFK Jr.’s assertions that the U.S. was ultimately responsible for the Ukraine war, and not Vladimir Putin.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rfk-jr-clashes-with-sean-hannity-during-
fox-news-town-hall-says-us-pushed-ukraine-war


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, July 26, 2023 7:32 PM

Did Donald Trump ever apologize to the ‘Central Park Five’?

Claim: Donald Trump "never said sorry for calling for my execution" as a member of the "Central Park Five."

Fact check by PolitiFact: Trump still believes group's guilt

Trump’s campaign did not respond to inquiries for this article but we found at least five occasions when Trump spoke derisively about the original defendants who have been officially exonerated. (Another man was proved to have been the perpetrator, based on DNA evidence.) In 2014, New York paid the original defendants a $41 million settlement, and supporters have called the group the Exonerated Five.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jul/25/did-donald-trump-ever-a
pologize-central
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, July 30, 2023 7:24 PM

RFK Jr.'s Latest Tweet Is Being Widely Interpreted As A Nazi Dog Whistle

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/robert-f-kennedy-jr-tweet_n_64c3fab7e4b
021e2f29310ba


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Sunday, July 30, 2023 10:47 PM

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RFK Jr.'s Latest Tweet Is Being Widely Interpreted As A Nazi Dog Whistle



No it's not. "Widely Interpreted" is a dog whistle by the Leftist Legacy Media for "That's what we think and we tell you idiots what to think".

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Tuesday, August 1, 2023 4:00 AM

Joe Manchin Handed Grim News About Reelection Chances

The poll, which surveyed 2,112 voters from April 4 to June 30, found that 55 percent of West Virginia voters disapprove of Manchin's job performance, while only 39 percent gave him positive marks. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points.

Manchin is the second least popular Senator in the United States, according to the poll. Only Senator Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, received lower approval from his constituents.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-manchin-handed-grim-news-a
bout-reelection-chances/ar-AA1eBx59?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=b7c155f4024145a1af9b3bb2a7fa999d&ei=141




Take a walk buddy.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2023 8:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
RFK Jr.'s Latest Tweet Is Being Widely Interpreted As A Nazi Dog Whistle



No it's not. "Widely Interpreted" is a dog whistle by the Leftist Legacy Media for "That's what we think and we tell you idiots what to think".

RFK Jr. went crazy, just as you are crazy, 6ixStringJack:

For a while, Kennedy’s pseudoscientific and conspiracy theories remained focused on his opposition to vaccines. But then they metastasized, spreading to a broader range of public health–related issues. He opposed not only vaccines but the fluoridation of water. He attacked mainstream medicine and extolled the virtues of alternative and holistic therapies. He suggested that the cause of AIDS was the use of “poppers” (alkyl nitrite inhalants), not the human immunodeficiency virus, and he blamed firearm deaths on psychiatric drugs, teenage depression on aluminum in vaccines, and the rise in the number of those identifying as transgender on drugs released into the water. He claimed that Wi-Fi and cell phones are health threats and described 5G technology as both medically dangerous and part of a plan to control the population.

Once a person believes in a conspiracy theory, two key psychological factors can make it hard for them to disentangle themselves from their beliefs: First, shared beliefs bind people together. We want to believe what others who are important to us believe. To not do so would threaten our relationships with them. The beliefs become part of a person’s identity: I am a person who believes such and such. By the late 2010s, Kennedy was increasingly surrounded by people who thought as he did, and he was increasingly cut off from the environmentalist community oriented toward more conventional science.

Second, we also try to maintain consistency in our beliefs. Information that is not consistent with our other beliefs and values gives rise to an internal sense of discomfort—what psychologist Leon Festinger called ”cognitive dissonance.” Either the old narrative must go, or we must find a way to discredit the new facts so that they can be incorporated into what we already believe. Belief in pseudoscience to belief in conspiracy theories is a short step. Kennedy’s narrative became one of extreme distrust.

More at https://slate.com/technology/2023/07/robert-f-kennedy-jr-rfk-covid-con
spiracy-history.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, August 1, 2023 11:06 AM



Get fucked, Slate.

AI will be doing your job soon, if your outfit even remains open by the end of 2023.


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Tuesday, August 1, 2023 5:10 PM

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Get fucked, Slate.

AI will be doing your job soon, if your outfit even remains open by the end of 2023.

Unfortunately, RFK Jr. has said many things that are false and he won't stop, but that was also true of Trump and look how smoothly Trump's life has always been, going from one courtroom to the next, thousands of times over the last 40 years.

How Many Times Has Trump Been Sued?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+times+has+trump+been+sued

It happens to be true that if Trump had invested his billion-dollar inheritance in the S&P 500 Index rather than buying golf courses, he would be far richer than he now is cheating his subcontractors and being sued.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, August 1, 2023 9:31 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Get fucked, Slate.

AI will be doing your job soon, if your outfit even remains open by the end of 2023.

Unfortunately, RFK Jr. has said many things that are false and he won't stop



Accusations made by sources that lie all the time themselves.

*yawn*

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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 6:16 AM

"He's going to get drubbed": Fox News legal analyst says "Trump doesn't have a prayer" in 2024

Fox News legal analyst Andrew McCarthy in a recent article for the National Review had grim predictions about former President Donald Trump's ability to win the 2024 election. "I persist in the conviction that Trump doesn't have a prayer of being elected president again," McCarthy wrote, citing the former president's "unfavorability" that "hovers around 60 percent."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/he-s-going-to-get-drubbed-fox-
news-legal-analyst-says-trump-doesn-t-have-a-prayer-in-2024/ar-AA1eEvPF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=183be64e063b46dba262d96e6f16b81a&ei=44




So much winning. I'm buried in winning.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 11:02 AM

Trump will be fine. Trump will be your next President.


You need some hobbies or something, Ted.

You're far to emotional and not fit for following or taking any part in politics.

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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 6:51 PM

Trump doesn’t have a prayer of being elected president again. Democrats have drawn the same conclusion, based on a lot of sensible data — Trump’s past performances (i.e., his 46 percent high-water mark, even as an incumbent, before the stop-the-steal nonsense, the Capitol riot, and the string of indictments and civil complaints), the 2018 midterms, Trump’s costing Republicans control of the Senate in 2020, and the 2022 “red wave” that never happened thanks to Trump-supported candidates.

The Democrats are trying to get Trump nominated because they know they would beat him decisively in November 2024. The indictments (and there will probably be two more — one from Biden DOJ special counsel Jack Smith, perhaps as early as today, and one from Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis (in the next two weeks or so), coupled with the civil cases teeing up for trial (New York attorney general Letitia James’s fraud case on October 3, and a second E. Jean Carroll sexual-assault/defamation case in mid January), are both firing up the Trump base and preventing other GOP candidates from getting any traction. That is the intention.

Harry Enten’s CNN polling analysis, to which Rich and MBD refer, deals mainly with the nomination battle and the patent unlikelihood that another Republican could beat Trump given his quasi-incumbent status and his commanding lead in the polls — pulling more than 50 percent and registering more support “than all his competitors combined,” as Enten tautologically puts it. This squares with the latest RCP data, which has Trump polling at 54 percent — nearly 26 points ahead of his closest rival, Ron DeSantis.

The problem for Trump is he has no upside. He is as known a quantity as has ever sought the presidency. In a normal race, the 46 percent of Republicans who do not favor Trump could be expected to “come home” in droves in the general election if he is the nominee. That is not true of Trump. As the Guardian reports, recent Pew polling indicates that just a hair under a third of Republicans now view him very or mostly unfavorably. The remaining two-thirds view him favorably, but that is down from three-quarters last year. It is reasonable to forecast that at least a quarter of Republicans will not support Trump under any circumstances. That doesn’t mean they will vote for an unpopular Democrat, they just won’t vote (or will vote third-party, write-in, or some similarly futile vehicle for registering discontent).

To have a chance in the general election, Trump has to make up that support. But from where? Polls consistently show that Democratic opposition to Trump is nearly universal. They also consistently show that his unfavorability with the general public hovers around 60 percent. There is no reason to believe this will change. To the contrary, about 54 percent of voters cast their ballots for someone other than Trump in 2016 and 2020, when he was more popular nationwide than he is now. He couldn’t win in 2020 with 46 (he won by a miracle in 2016 with 46). He is not going to win with less than 46, but there’s no reason to think he would ever sniff 46 again.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-cant-win/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, August 2, 2023 7:48 PM

It's 2016 all over again.

Good luck with that, buddy.

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Thursday, August 3, 2023 6:56 PM

Two bodies have been found stuck in the lines of orange buoys installed by Texas authorities in the Rio Grande along the U.S.-Mexico border. The Texas Department of Public Safety notified the Mexican Consulate in Eagle Pass, Texas, on Wednesday afternoon that a person was found dead in the southern part of the floating barriers. Members of the Mexican National Institute of Migration's assistance unit, Grupos Beta, are spearheading efforts to recover the body, according to the Mexican Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Mexican National Institute of Migration told ABC News on Wednesday that a second body has been discovered in the buoys.

The Mexican Ministry of Foreign Affairs repeated its condemnation of the buoys, calling them a "violation of our sovereignty." The U.S. Department of Justice has sued Texas Gov. Greg Abbott over the use of the buoys.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/2-bodies-found-in-rio-grande-buoy
-barrier-at-us-mexico-border-mexican-officials-say/ar-AA1eIUfV


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Friday, August 4, 2023 12:28 AM


Trumps done. He never stood a chance.

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Friday, August 4, 2023 4:27 PM

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Trumps done. He never stood a chance.

T


Trump is not finished. After the 2024 election, there will be tens of millions of Republicans who claim the election was stolen from him.

Trump’s Threat to Democracy Is Now Systemic

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/donald-trump-indictm
ent-gop-jan-6/674895
/

by Ronald Brownstein

The long-awaited federal indictment of Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election may be necessary to contain the threat to American democracy that he has unleashed. But it’s unlikely to be sufficient.

The germ of election denialism that Trump injected into the American political system has spread so far throughout the Republican Party that it is virtually certain to survive whatever legal accountability the former president faces.

With polls showing that most Republican voters still believe the election was stolen from Trump, that the January 6 riot was legitimate protest, and that Trump’s efforts to subvert the 2020 results did not violate the law or threaten the constitutional system, the United States faces a stark and unprecedented situation. For the first time in the nation’s modern history, the dominant faction in one of our two major parties has repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to accept antidemocratic means to advance its interests.

The most telling measure of that dynamic inside the GOP is that Trump remains the party’s central figure. Each time GOP voters and leaders have had the opportunity to move away from him—whether in the shock immediately after January 6, or the widespread disappointment over the poor performance of his handpicked candidates during the 2022 election—the party has sped past the off-ramp.

Polls now show Trump leading in the 2024 GOP presidential race by one of the biggest margins ever recorded for a primary candidate in either party. The Republican majority in the House of Representatives has been exploring ways to expunge his two impeachments and/or block the investigations he faces. Even the other candidates ostensibly running against him for the 2024 GOP nomination have almost uniformly condemned the indictments against him, rather than his underlying behavior. Prominent conservatives have argued that Trump cannot receive a fair trial in any Democratic-leaning jurisdiction.

All of these actions measure how much of the GOP is now willing to accept Trump’s repeated assaults on the basic structures of American democracy. While the key state-level Republicans rejected Trump’s direct demands to invalidate the results in their own states, most House Republicans voted to reject the election results and most Republican state attorneys general filed a lawsuit to decertify the outcome in the key swing states won by President Joe Biden. In the election’s aftermath, the majority of Republican-controlled states, inspired by Trump’s baseless claims of endemic voter fraud, passed laws on a party-line basis making it more difficult to vote, or increasing partisan control over election administration.

Sean Wilentz, a Princeton historian who specializes in American politics, told me that U.S. history has no exact precedent for a party embracing a leader so openly hostile to the core pillars of democracy. Presidents have often been accused of violating the Constitution through their policy actions, he said, but there is not another example of a president moving as systematically to “manipulate the apparatus of government or elections in order to subvert the will of the people.”

The closest parallel to Trump’s actions, Wilentz said, may be the strategies of the slaveholding South in the decades before the Civil War. Those included violent attacks on abolitionists, suppression of antislavery publications, and the promulgation of extreme legal theories such as the denial of basic rights to Black people in th

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Sunday, August 6, 2023 11:00 PM

Republicans fared poorly in all three elections since 2016. Just look at what happened in 2022. Republicans nominated the Trumpiest candidate they could find in the most important races — and lost because voters clearly rejected candidates defined solely by inexperience and fury. In one vital, winnable race after another, in key states including Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan, reasonable Democrats beat outrageous Republicans.

In between elections, Trumpism has been a poison to Republican state parties. Loony election deniers have taken over and in some cases crippled their organizations with mismanagement; the Arizona and Michigan parties are practically bankrupt. That’s a trend Democrats are happy to see continue.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, August 7, 2023 11:54 PM

Evangelical Leader Rips Trump, Says Supporters Now 'Looking For Another Candidate'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/evangelical-leader-rips-trump-
says-supporters-now-looking-for-another-candidate/ar-AA1eTkcS?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8a6da56cddc147368d615c7285c1230a&ei=52




The 2024 election will not include Trump, SECOND. Trump will be convicted of trying to steal an election before the primaries. He will then not be allowed to run again. His followers can throw a fit if they wish. Fuck them...

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Tuesday, August 8, 2023 6:58 AM

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Evangelical Leader Rips Trump, Says Supporters Now 'Looking For Another Candidate'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/evangelical-leader-rips-trump-
says-supporters-now-looking-for-another-candidate/ar-AA1eTkcS?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8a6da56cddc147368d615c7285c1230a&ei=52




The 2024 election will not include Trump, SECOND. Trump will be convicted of trying to steal an election before the primaries. He will then not be allowed to run again. His followers can throw a fit if they wish. Fuck them...

T




None of the above is true.

That's why the Legacy Media is in pure panic mode about Trump.


Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.



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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 10:27 PM

Democrats vs Republicans By The Numbers The Last 50 Years*

Years Held Presidency
Republicans 28 years
Democrats 22 years

Stock Market Return
Republicans 109%
Democrats 992%

Income Growth
Republicans 0.6%
Democrats 2.2%

Total Jobs Created
Republicans 24 Million
Democrats 42 Million

GDP
Republicans 2.7%
Democrats 4.1%

* Sources - Politico, Bloomberg, USDL

https://andrewtobias.com/is-a-fascist-worse-than-an-authoritarian/

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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 10:35 PM



That's some creating accounting there for sure.


I mean, just look at the last one...

20 Million jobs were lost when the Democrats teamed up with China to unleash Covid on the world to remove Trump from office, and 20 Million people went back to work when it was over after they successfully destroyed the American voting system to keep Trump out of office.

Add that 20 Million back where it shouldn't have been taken from and subtract it where it shouldn't have been gained and Republicans created 44 Million jobs while Democrats only created 22 Million.

And that had ripple effects on everything else.





Show me the stats of the last 50 years minus the last 4 years and those numbers look insanely different than what you've just presented.

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Thursday, August 10, 2023 12:08 AM

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That's some creating accounting there for sure.


I mean, just look at the last one...

20 Million jobs were lost when the Democrats teamed up with China to unleash Covid on the world to remove Trump from office, and 20 Million people went back to work when it was over after they successfully destroyed the American voting system to keep Trump out of office.

Add that 20 Million back where it shouldn't have been taken from and subtract it where it shouldn't have been gained and Republicans created 44 Million jobs while Democrats only created 22 Million.

And that had ripple effects on everything else.





Show me the stats of the last 50 years minus the last 4 years and those numbers look insanely different than what you've just presented.

We Looked At How The Stock Market Performed Under Every U.S. President Since Truman — And The Results Will Surprise You
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/23/historical-sto
ck-market-returns-under-every-us-president/?sh=2127294afaaf


U.S. economic performance under Democratic and Republican presidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_under_Democrat
ic_and_Republican_presidents


The Economy Under Democratic vs. Republican Presidents
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/309cc8e1-b971-45c6-ab52
-29ffb1da9bf5/jec-fact-sheet---the-economy-under-democratic-vs.-republican-presidents-june-2016.pdf


Facts show Dems are job creators
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/05/data-show-dems-are-job-creators
-076338


Why Are Republican Presidents So Bad for the Economy?
G.D.P., jobs and other indicators have all risen faster under Democrats for nearly the past century.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/02/opinion/sunday/democrats-economy.ht
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Thursday, August 10, 2023 6:18 AM

13 Readers on What Trump Voters Want

by Conor Friedersdorf / August 09, 2023 at 11:40AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/08/13-readers-on-
what-trump-voters-want/674961
/

Last week, I put this question to readers: “Donald Trump is guilty of deplorable actions, under indictment for multiple crimes, and yet remains the most popular candidate with voters in the Republican Party’s presidential primary. Why do you think he is still their first choice?”

Replies have been edited for length and clarity.

1) Randall R. argues that Trump supporters earnestly desire national greatness:

The reason many support Trump (if you have the decency to listen to them) is because they want to make America great again, and there’s no one else close to matching Trump in both prominence and apparent ability to make what they’d say is the most promising and important part of America great, in the face of the internal conflicts that currently exist.

That’s an illusion spread by a politician, offering an addictive thrill that disconnects people from parts of reality. It doesn’t make America great. But making America great, recognizing how it has long been great and how it can be more great, remains important.

Listen to the Trump voters: the neglected, the deplored, the doomscrollers, the people who want to make something of themselves, those who want to raise their family in a better world. Those who vote against Trump fit these same descriptions. It’s essential, for people on opposing sides of what’s become Trump’s divide, to listen to each other with respect, so we can build our way out of America’s problems without being exploited by political operators. You or I have no shortage of illusions in our parts of the political spectrum; shouldn’t we be reexamining those illusions instead of looking down on Trump’s followers?

2) Bob puts forth a theory of populism:

Populist movements arise from widespread dissatisfaction with cultural and economic conditions and the inability of the government to deal with public concerns. This is fertile ground for charismatic and authoritarian leaders offering quick and simple solutions. Though Trump may be a person of low character, to many of his supporters, he seems like the sort of fighter that is needed—someone who does not follow the rules because the rules are believed to be the problem. James Madison would be sad and disappointed.

3) Jaleelah analyzes what she sees as the incentives of Trump supporters:

Trump’s supporters sincerely believe that he is being framed, not only because he has been priming them for his conviction for years, but because they have to believe it lest they become severely depressed. Imagine dedicating yourself to a false religion or an unfulfilling career or a bad partner. Imagine losing relationships with your lifelong friends and your adult children who strongly disagree with your choices. When you’ve committed to something at a great cost, it is hard to admit that your commitment was all for nothing.

I don’t think it is strange that so many people insist Trump is innocent. I do, of course, believe he is a fraud who is corrupt enough to have committed the crimes he is accused of. But genuine revolutionary figures get locked up on fake charges all the time. Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi were charged, convicted, and imprisoned. Most reasonable people alive today believe their imprisonments were unjust and that states are capable of fabricating evidence against popular figures who threaten the social order. Trump’s supporters are simply applying a reasonable idea in an unreasonable context.

Liberals and progressives do not seem keen to accept repentant Trump supporters. There is little benefit to switching teams. There is a very high cost. Towns that have unified behind Trump are just as keen on cancel culture as their liberal counterparts. No one wants to be confronted by a horde of their neighbors at church or accused of supporting degeneracy at the grocery store. Peer pressure is probably keep

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Thursday, August 10, 2023 10:32 AM

In 2018, the Wall Street Journal insisted that abortion rights would never be overturned

An editorial confidently proclaiming that abortion rights were safe no matter who Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court:

"The reason is the power of stare decisis, or precedent, and how conservatives view the role of the Court in supporting the credibility of the law....Our view, supported by more than a little reporting, is that even though they think Roe was wrongly decided, most of the current conservative Justices would shy from overturning it and handing abortion law entirely to the states. The exception is Justice Clarence Thomas, who has made his intentions clear."

That editorial board was sure that conservative justices would all shy from overturning Roe v. Wade. Four years later, every single conservative justice voted to overturn it.

I wonder. Did they actually believe what they wrote even though it was ridiculous?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-abortion-scare-campaign-1530573972?st
=84dfhsjscwmc4ft&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


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Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:29 AM

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In 2018, the Wall Street Journal insisted that abortion rights would never be overturned

An editorial confidently proclaiming that abortion rights were safe no matter who Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court:

"The reason is the power of stare decisis, or precedent, and how conservatives view the role of the Court in supporting the credibility of the law....Our view, supported by more than a little reporting, is that even though they think Roe was wrongly decided, most of the current conservative Justices would shy from overturning it and handing abortion law entirely to the states. The exception is Justice Clarence Thomas, who has made his intentions clear."

That editorial board was sure that conservative justices would all shy from overturning Roe v. Wade. Four years later, every single conservative justice voted to overturn it.

I wonder. Did they actually believe what they wrote even though it was ridiculous?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-abortion-scare-campaign-1530573972?st
=84dfhsjscwmc4ft&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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They did believe it. At the time.

But then Democrats on the east coast started killing babies the moment they were born.

You "progressives"... always finding new ways to push the envelope to extremes that no rational person could ever get behind because you're too afraid to tell the extremist 5% on the fringes to get fucked.

Just look at everything that's happening in 2023. You're losing so much ground.

Even the gays and lesbians hate you now.

Pride month died, and Democrats killed it.

I hope you're proud of yourselves.



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Friday, August 11, 2023 2:36 AM

We need more Republicans like Clarence Thomas -- who accepted yet more millions from billionaires

ProPublica today provides us with the fullest accounting yet of the endless largesse provided over the years to Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas from his cadre of billionaire friends:

Their gifts include: At least 38 destination vacations, including a previously unreported voyage on a yacht around the Bahamas; 26 private jet flights, plus an additional eight by helicopter; a dozen VIP passes to professional and college sporting events, typically perched in the skybox; two stays at luxury resorts in Florida and Jamaica; and one standing invitation to an uber-exclusive golf club overlooking the Atlantic coast.

....The pattern exposes consistent violations of judicial norms, experts, including seven current and former federal judges appointed by both parties, told ProPublica. “In my career I don’t remember ever seeing this degree of largesse given to anybody,” said Jeremy Fogel, a former federal judge who served for years on the judicial committee that reviews judges’ financial disclosures. “I think it’s unprecedented.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-other-billionaires-
sokol-huizenga-novelly-supreme-court


The gifts were provided by David Sokol, a former top executive at Berkshire Hathaway; the late H. Wayne Huizenga, founder of AutoNation and Waste Management; Paul “Tony” Novelly, an oil baron; and, of course, the ubiquitous Harlan Crow, a real estate magnate.

But did Thomas violate any laws by hoovering up all these private gifts? YES! Will anyone do anything about it? NO! As near as I can tell, a Supreme Court justice could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and then just disappear safely into his chambers and refuse to ever talk about it.

This whole story gets sleazier and harder to believe with every new revelation. Thomas makes Hunter Biden look like a piker. But apparently, nobody will do anything about it.

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Friday, August 11, 2023 3:11 AM

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But then Democrats on the east coast started killing babies the moment they were born.

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I will check your integrity by googling Democrats on the east coast started killing babies the moment they were born
https://www.google.com/search?q=Democrats+on+the+east+coast+started+ki
lling+babies+the+moment+they+were+born


Looking at the results I am not shocked to discover 6ixStringJack lacks all integrity, the same lack found in every person who votes for Republicans. But I've know this about them since 1964 when Goldwater ran for President. It is not that they are lying. It is that they are overflowing with bullshit, saying whatever pleases themselves despite their words having no reality. It only looks like nonstop lying, but it is worse.

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Thursday, August 17, 2023 11:50 PM

past inaugurations ?




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The 2024 election will not include Trump



it already includes Trump both CNN and Fox are blasting him on Tv 24/7

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Friday, August 18, 2023 4:01 AM

Polling roundup: Trump has no realistic path to win a general election

While former President Donald Trump and his team try to build up his air of invincibility in the GOP presidential primary, the fact remains that he would be facing a near-certain loss in the general election.

A poll from the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that 53% of people say they would definitely not support Trump in the general election, compared to 43% who say the same of President Joe Biden. A Fox News poll has Trump with a lower favorability than Biden among important swing groups, including independents, suburban voters (and especially suburban women), and undecided voters.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/polling-roundup-trump-has-no-r
ealistic-path-to-win-a-general-election/ar-AA1fpnrP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d6bbe45686da455faf5fb4952994b74f&ei=42




Psst, don't tell Jack. His heart couldn't take it.

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Saturday, August 19, 2023 10:19 PM

In a blunt-talking column published by the Charlotte Observer, a lifelong Evangelical expressed dismay that Christians have been taken in by Donald Trump who could not be less like Jesus Christ.

According to Isaac Bailey, Christians who are still standing by the former president despite his record of criminality and incitements to violence need to "wake up" and realize they have been suckered by a con man who has been preying on them since he was first elected in 2016.

Referring to comments made by Christian leader Russell Moore about the influence the former president has had on parishioners who are now claiming the words of Jesus show weakness, Bailey wrote, "Maybe in their minds, Trump is the Jesus of Revelation. He’s the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords with a sword in his mouth who has come back to judge the righteous and unrighteous, to wage war."

With that in mind, he continued, "It’s why they view every Trump indictment not as democracy working as intended, upholding the principle that no man is above the law, but as akin to a lash from a Roman soldier’s whip on Jesus’ back. I wish it weren’t true. But it is."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wake-up-trump-loving-evangelic
als-warned-they-been-taken-in-by-a-hoax/ar-AA1ftNzX?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=486af8369b3c4301a14c4560edcb9d77&ei=46




It makes sense. They've been duped into believing there is a god. Why not Trump as being their savior. These are desperate crazy people.

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Sunday, August 20, 2023 12:13 AM

Nearly Two-Thirds of Americans Indicate No Support for Donald Trump’s 2024 Run, Reveals Poll

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nearly-two-thirds-of-americans
-indicate-no-support-for-donald-trump-s-2024-run-reveals-poll/ar-AA1ftF2E?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=486af8369b3c4301a14c4560edcb9d77&ei=316




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Sunday, August 20, 2023 7:20 PM

The Constitution prohibits Trump from ever being president again

J. Michael Luttig and Laurence H. Tribe write:

As students of the United States Constitution for many decades—one of us as a U.S. Court of Appeals judge, the other as a professor of constitutional law, and both as constitutional advocates, scholars, and practitioners—we long ago came to the conclusion that the Fourteenth Amendment, the amendment ratified in 1868 that represents our nation’s second founding and a new birth of freedom, contains within it a protection against the dissolution of the republic by a treasonous president.

This protection, embodied in the amendment’s often-overlooked Section 3, automatically excludes from future office and position of power in the United States government—and also from any equivalent office and position of power in the sovereign states and their subdivisions—any person who has taken an oath to support and defend our Constitution and thereafter rebels against that sacred charter, either through overt insurrection or by giving aid or comfort to the Constitution’s enemies.

The historically unprecedented federal and state indictments of former President Donald Trump have prompted many to ask whether his conviction pursuant to any or all of these indictments would be either necessary or sufficient to deny him the office of the presidency in 2024.

Having thought long and deeply about the text, history, and purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment’s disqualification clause for much of our professional careers, both of us concluded some years ago that, in fact, a conviction would be beside the point. The disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation. The clause was designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government or by waging war on our government by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.

The former president’s efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, and the resulting attack on the U.S. Capitol, place him squarely within the ambit of the disqualification clause, and he is therefore ineligible to serve as president ever again. The most pressing constitutional question facing our country at this moment, then, is whether we will abide by this clear command of the Fourteenth Amendment’s disqualification clause.

We were immensely gratified to see that a richly researched article soon to be published in an academic journal has recently come to the same conclusion that we had and is attracting well-deserved attention outside a small circle of scholars—including Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Anjani Jain of the Yale School of Management, whose encouragement inspired us to write this piece. The evidence laid out by the legal scholars William Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen in “The Sweep and Force of Section Three,” available as a preprint, is momentous. Sooner or later, it will influence, if not determine, the course of American constitutional history—and American history itself.

Written with precision and thoroughness, the article makes the compelling case that the relevance of Section 3 did not lapse with the passing of the generation of Confederate rebels, whose treasonous designs for the country inspired the provision; that the provision was not and could not have been repealed by the Amnesty Act of 1872 or by subsequent legislative enactments; and that Section 3 has not been relegated by any judicial precedent to a mere source of potential legislative authority, but continues to this day by its own force to automatically render ineligible for future public office all “former office holders who then participate in insurrection or rebellion,” as Baude and Paulsen put it.

Among the profound conclusions that follow are that all officials who ever swore to support the Constitution—as every officer, state or federal, in every br

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Monday, August 21, 2023 12:29 PM

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Nearly Two-Thirds of Americans Indicate No Support for Donald Trump’s 2024 Run, Reveals Poll





An AP poll, huh idiot?

Seriously get some help dude. I'm afraid you're going to kill yourself when Trump is reelected next year.

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Monday, August 21, 2023 12:31 PM

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The Constitution prohibits Trump from ever being president again



False.

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Baude and Paulsen also conclude that Section 3 requires no legislation, criminal conviction, or other judicial action in order to effectuate its command. That is, Section 3 is “self-executing.”


Extremely false. That's the second time you've misunderstood what self-executing in this context means.

You are an idiot.

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Monday, August 21, 2023 3:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Constitution prohibits Trump from ever being president again



False.

Quote:

Baude and Paulsen also conclude that Section 3 requires no legislation, criminal conviction, or other judicial action in order to effectuate its command. That is, Section 3 is “self-executing.”


Extremely false. That's the second time you've misunderstood what self-executing in this context means.

You are an idiot.

There probably won't be a test of the 14th amendment since Trump won't win, even though it is a certainty he will declare himself "The Winner". But if Trump tries making himself "The Other" President, the real President will kill Trump. That is another certainty. Trumptards, get ready for the emotional roller coaster of either a loss or an assassination of der Führer Trump. It is never too early to call the Secret Service about an assassination threat. Do it today, 6ixStringJack. The Agents want to hear from YOU!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Monday, August 21, 2023 6:00 PM

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution states that “No person shall … hold any office, under the United States … who, having previously taken an oath … to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.” Trump took that oath at his inauguration on Jan. 20, 2017.

Both Trump’s Georgia indictment, and his federal indictment in Washington, D.C., cite largely public information to spell out exactly how he engaged in efforts to rebel against the Constitution and sought and gave aid and comfort to others who also did so.

Under the 14th Amendment, Trump’s actions render him ineligible to hold office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sorry-maga-donald-trump-s-acti
ons-have-disqualified-him-from-the-presidency/ar-AA1fwWoS


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Monday, August 21, 2023 7:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Nearly Two-Thirds of Americans Indicate No Support for Donald Trump’s 2024 Run, Reveals Poll





An AP poll, huh idiot?

Seriously get some help dude. I'm afraid you're going to kill yourself when Trump is reelected next year.




Donald Trump’s new lawyer has previously made highly critical statements about his client it has emerged, calling him “racist” and “pathetic”.

Drew Findling was hired last year to represent the former president in court for the Georgia election case, where Trump has been accused by the Department of Justice of conspiring to overturn the 2020 vote.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-new-lawyer-made
-jaw-dropping-statements-about-ex-president/ar-AA1fyrA1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=eb52976a3e9341ae9bb1428f7427f891&ei=8




Trumps going to get destroyed Jack. So maybe you should jump off a bridge now. I mean, why wait?


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Monday, August 21, 2023 9:47 PM

Boy, the two of you are sad.

I have actual things to do today. I'll leave you two retards to jerk each other off all day long, as per usual.



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Monday, August 21, 2023 11:21 PM

Why Do Democrats Get Offended When Told Basic Facts?

• Over the last fifty years, every Republican President has seen a recession, while we have had only one recession begin under a Democrat, a short six month recession under Carter.

• Over the last forty years every Republican President has created a deficit at least double the previous record. Over that same time, every Democratic President (including already Biden) has cut the deficit by half or more.

• The last three Democratic Presidents (including Biden) have all seen unemployment effectively cut in half. The last two Republicans both saw it effectively double.

• Over the last fifty years, despite holding the Presidency for only 22 years compared to Republicans holding it 28, stock market return has been just over 100% under Republicans and just shy of 1,000% under Democrats. Over 42 million jobs have been created under Democrats compared to only 24 million under Republicans. Income growth averaged 2.2% under Democrats compared to 0.6% under Republicans. GDP growth averaged 4.1% under Democrats compared to 2.7% under Republicans.

• Going back to Truman, four of the five Presidents who have seen the largest increase in domestic oil production were Democrats (with Trump scoring the number five spot and Obama placing first). Only six Presidents over that time have seen domestic oil production fall, and five of them were Republicans.

• Since 1980, The abortion rate held steady under Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43. It fell under both Clinton and Obama, and under Trump rose for the first time since the 1970’s.

• Since the Nixon Administration, 338 members of Presidential administrations have been indicted on criminal charges. Three of these were in Democratic administrations, 335 were in Republican administrations.

• In the last century, only two Presidents have lost jobs during their administrations, both Republicans (Hoover and Trump)

• Over the last 80 years, five of the six Presidents with the highest job creation were Democrats, with only Reagan making the list. (Current rankings are Clinton, Reagan, Biden, Obama, Johnson, and Carter, with Biden likely to move into second place before the end of his first term.)

• Ten of the eleven safest states in the Union are blue or lean blue with Utah the only red state. Fifteen of the sixteen least safe states are red, with Georgia being the only non-red state in that mix (and until recently we would have considered Georgia a red state). (Scores based on a combination of personal safety, road safety, financial safety, and emergency preparedness.)

• Four of the five states with the highest poverty rate are deep red (New Mexico being the only blue state). Four of the five states with the lowest poverty rates are-blue or lean blue, with Utah the only red state.

• The five states with the best education are all blue. Four of the five states with the worst education are deep red, with New Mexico the only blue state.

• Four of the five states with the highest incarceration rates are deep red, with Delaware the only blue state. Four of the five with the lowest incarceration rates are blue or lean blue with North Dakota the only red state.

• The ten states with a the best healthcare are all blue. The five states with the worst healthcare are all red. In fact ten of the bottom eleven are all red with Georgia being the only exception.

• Eight of the ten states that pay the highest Federal income tax per capita are blue. (That’s per capita, so population isn’t a factor.) Eight of the ten states who rely most on Federal funding are red.

• The five states with the highest covid death rates were all red. Three of the five with the lowest death rates are blue with Alaska and Utah the only exceptions.

https://andrewtobias.com/why-do-democrats-get-offended-when-told-basic
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Monday, August 21, 2023 11:30 PM

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Trumps going to get destroyed Jack. So maybe you should jump off a bridge now. I mean, why wait?



I hope Trump runs in 2028 as he is in 2024. The sooner the Trumptards kill themselves the better for the rest of us. 6ixStringJack has diabetes and cigarettes shortening his life span. When Trump loses in 2028, it might be the final push sending 6ix over the edge like Humpty Dumpty into the hereafter. As slow as the justice system operates, Trump will still be appealing his convictions and out on bond in 2028.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 12:40 AM

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Trumps going to get destroyed Jack. So maybe you should jump off a bridge now. I mean, why wait?



I hope Trump runs in 2028 as he is in 2024.


He won't be able to run in 2028 because nobody can serve as President more than 2 terms.



You are so salty and hateful. You must really hate your life.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:35 AM

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Trumps going to get destroyed Jack. So maybe you should jump off a bridge now. I mean, why wait?



I hope Trump runs in 2028 as he is in 2024.


He won't be able to run in 2028 because nobody can serve as President more than 2 terms.



You are so salty and hateful. You must really hate your life.

The Trumptards are angry that the 14th amendment bans Trump from political office. If you and Trump can't understand that amendment, and won't voluntarily comply with it, I guess there is nothing, nothing at all, that can be done about it other than hope Trump chokes to death while stuffing himself in an eating contest to become The Fattest ex-President in History.

How Fat Is Trump?
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+Fat+Is+Trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 10:17 AM

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Trumps going to get destroyed Jack. So maybe you should jump off a bridge now. I mean, why wait?



I hope Trump runs in 2028 as he is in 2024.


He won't be able to run in 2028 because nobody can serve as President more than 2 terms.



You are so salty and hateful. You must really hate your life.

The Trumptards are angry that the 14th amendment bans Trump from political office.


What is there to be angry about? This is just another fantasy of yours and there's no truth to it.

I am laughing at you.

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If you and Trump can't understand that amendment, and won't voluntarily comply with it, I guess there is nothing, nothing at all, that can be done about it other than hope Trump chokes to death while stuffing himself in an eating contest to become The Fattest ex-President in History.


So salty. So, so salty.



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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 4:15 PM

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What is there to be angry about? This is just another fantasy of yours and there's no truth to it.

I am laughing at you.

In reality, Trump is laughably bad at controlling himself. Even worse, his political party is bad at governing others:

Why Do Democrats Get Offended When Told Basic Facts?

• Over the last fifty years, every Republican President has seen a recession, while we have had only one recession begin under a Democrat, a short six month recession under Carter.

• Over the last forty years every Republican President has created a deficit at least double the previous record. Over that same time, every Democratic President (including already Biden) has cut the deficit by half or more.

• The last three Democratic Presidents (including Biden) have all seen unemployment effectively cut in half. The last two Republicans both saw it effectively double.

• Over the last fifty years, despite holding the Presidency for only 22 years compared to Republicans holding it 28, stock market return has been just over 100% under Republicans and just shy of 1,000% under Democrats. Over 42 million jobs have been created under Democrats compared to only 24 million under Republicans. Income growth averaged 2.2% under Democrats compared to 0.6% under Republicans. GDP growth averaged 4.1% under Democrats compared to 2.7% under Republicans.

• Going back to Truman, four of the five Presidents who have seen the largest increase in domestic oil production were Democrats (with Trump scoring the number five spot and Obama placing first). Only six Presidents over that time have seen domestic oil production fall, and five of them were Republicans.

• Since 1980, The abortion rate held steady under Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43. It fell under both Clinton and Obama, and under Trump rose for the first time since the 1970’s.

• Since the Nixon Administration, 338 members of Presidential administrations have been indicted on criminal charges. Three of these were in Democratic administrations, 335 were in Republican administrations.

• In the last century, only two Presidents have lost jobs during their administrations, both Republicans (Hoover and Trump)

• Over the last 80 years, five of the six Presidents with the highest job creation were Democrats, with only Reagan making the list. (Current rankings are Clinton, Reagan, Biden, Obama, Johnson, and Carter, with Biden likely to move into second place before the end of his first term.)

• Ten of the eleven safest states in the Union are blue or lean blue with Utah the only red state. Fifteen of the sixteen least safe states are red, with Georgia being the only non-red state in that mix (and until recently we would have considered Georgia a red state). (Scores based on a combination of personal safety, road safety, financial safety, and emergency preparedness.)

• Four of the five states with the highest poverty rate are deep red (New Mexico being the only blue state). Four of the five states with the lowest poverty rates are-blue or lean blue, with Utah the only red state.

• The five states with the best education are all blue. Four of the five states with the worst education are deep red, with New Mexico the only blue state.

• Four of the five states with the highest incarceration rates are deep red, with Delaware the only blue state. Four of the five with the lowest incarceration rates are blue or lean blue with North Dakota the only red state.

• The ten states with the best healthcare are all blue. The five states with the worst healthcare are all red. In fact ten of the bottom eleven are all red with Georgia being the only exception.

• Eight of the ten states that pay the highest Federal income tax per capita are blue. (That’s per capita, so population isn’t a factor.) Eight of the ten states who rely most on Federal funding are red.

• The five states with the highest covid death rates were all red. Three of the five with the lowest death rates are blue with Alaska an

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 4:22 PM

Tomorrow Night. . .
by A.T. on AUGUST 22, 2023

... you’ll have the choice of watching the first Republican debate or else Trump being interviewed by Tucker Carlson.

Carlson, you may recall, texted colleagues such things as:

• “I hate him passionately.”

• “He’s a demonic force, a destroyer.”

• “All [his businesses] fail. What he’s good at is destroying things. He’s the undisputed world champion of that.”

• “We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can’t wait.”

For your pre-game entertainment, I commend to you 21 Minutes of Tucker Carlson on Comedy Central.
I cede the balance of my time.

https://andrewtobias.com/tomorrow-night/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 8:29 PM

Republican scandals: A brief refresher

Just in case anyone could use a refresher, here are the most recent six "scandals" that have preoccupied Republicans during the last two Democratic administrations:

1 Benghazi
2 IRS tea party targeting
3 Hillary's email
4 Durham investigation
5 Afghanistan withdrawal
6 Hunter Biden

And here's how they turned out:

1 Benghazi (2012-14): There was no "stand down" order and no denial of air support. Nobody lied about the cause of the enemy attack. Administration statements were generally accurate given what was known at the time they were made. The "Innocence of Muslims" video really did play a role in the attacks. Security at the consulate was sufficient, and in any case was provided mostly by the CIA, not State. There was no cover-up related to security. The attack was primarily opportunistic, not planned, and was carried out by a mixed group. There was no incompetence on the part of Hillary Clinton or the State Department.

Two years after the attack, all of this was finally acknowledged by Republicans when the House Select Intelligence Committee—controlled by Republicans—issued its final report. Their exoneration of the White House was sweeping and nearly absolute.

2 IRS (2013): Initially it looked like the IRS was targeting tea party groups over their tax-exempt status. However, that was because the initial demand from Republicans was solely for records of conservative groups. It took several years, but when a broader record search was done it turned out that there had been no partisan intent and liberal groups had actually been targeted far more than conservative groups.

3 Hillary's email (2015-16): In the end, the final FBI report showed that Hillary had done nothing seriously wrong. She used a single account hosted on a private server for both work and personal emails, which was probably a mistake in judgment but not done with any intent to withhold anything. There is no evidence that any foreign adversary hacked the server. She turned over all official emails when requested. Before she handed them over her lawyers culled out personal emails, and there's no evidence that any work emails were deleted in the process. Extensive evidence makes it all but impossible that this happened. Her personal server was eventually wiped clean, but this was part of a routine change in record retention policy that was botched by her hosting service. During her time as Secretary of State, she sent and received only three classified emails, all of them trivial. After the fact, State and CIA argued over some other emails—almost none of them initiated by Hillary—with CIA concluding that they should have been classified. Hillary did nothing wrong except for relying on State's classification in real-time. The FBI's report is an almost complete exoneration of Hillary.

4 Durham investigation (2019-23): John Durham was appointed in hopes of demonstrating that the FBI's investigation of Donald Trump's ties to Russia was unfounded and illegal. However, despite continual leaks and feverish indictments insinuating otherwise, Durham never found anything of the sort. In the end, he indicted only three people, all on trivial charges, and even so managed to lose two at trial and win only a plea deal on the third. We know now that, in fact, Trump's presidential campaign did have links to the Russian government. The FBI did have a perfectly sensible reason to open an investigation into this. Vladimir Putin did try to interfere with the election in Trump's favor. There were never any intelligence operations targeting Trump. There were no illegal actions by the Hillary Clinton campaign. And several members of Durham's team did quit because of disagreements with him over prosecutorial ethics. Every leak from Durham produced excited reports from Fox News, but by the time he was finished, he had produced nothing.

5 Afghanistan (2021): Joe Biden didn't set the date of withdrawa

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:07 PM

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Tuesday, August 22, 2023 11:14 PM

The 14th Amendment to the rescue

by Bill Press, opinion contributor - 08/22/23

From coast to coast, Republican politicians are breathing a sigh of relief. Even though most of them won’t say it publicly, it’s no secret that, privately, many Republicans don’t really want former President Trump to be their party’s nominee in 2024. They’re just hoping he’ll somehow go away.

Why? Because they know they can’t win with him at the top of the ticket. He’s got too much baggage. As commentator Keith Boykin adds it up, that includes (so far): 91 criminal charges; 26 sexual assault allegations; six bankruptcies; five draft deferments; two impeachments; one convicted company; one fake university shut down; one fake charity shut down; a $25 million fraud settlement; a $5 million sexual abuse verdict; and a $2 million charity abuse judgment.

But for Republicans the dilemma has been, short of a prison term, how were they going to move beyond Trump without totally alienating his loyal base — or, as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis calls them, Trump’s “listless vessels”? For months, they’ve been secretly looking for some way to dump Trump without leaving any fingerprints of their own.

Suddenly — notice the big smiles on their faces — they’ve found the answer. It’s their own “deus ex machina.” Now riding to the rescue of Republicans as the way to sideline Trump once and for all is the 14th Amendment.

More at https://thehill.com/opinion/4163774-press-the-14th-amendment-to-the-re
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 12:11 AM



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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 5:37 AM

Good to hear.

T


BREAKING: New lawsuit could FLIP THE HOUSE to the Democrats





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THG
Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:52 AM

New Trump poll proves Obama and Clinton were right: The GOP base are deplorable, bitter clingers

"Hurt dogs sure do holler." That was the saying that came to mind in 2008 when then-candidate for president Barack Obama drew outrage from Republicans because he described their voters as "bitter" people who "cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them." The phrase came to mind again in 2016, when Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton used the memorable phrase "basket of deplorables" to describe supporters of Donald Trump. Since a cardinal rule of politics is "insult your opponent, but never their voters," the mainstream media picked up and amplified the umbrage-taking from Republicans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-trump-poll-proves-obama-an
d-clinton-were-right-the-gop-base-are-deplorable-bitter-clingers/ar-AA1fBIuO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f1a25bd5d8bd49dc961a0351731df4df&ei=71




Of course

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:00 AM

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Get ready for it Jack. Some attorneys Generals are going to block Trump from getting on the ballets in their states. According to the constitution, he is automatically disqualified from running after trying to overturn an election. He is also on video suggesting we suspend the constitution. Something he was sworn to protect.

tick tock tick tock

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:27 AM

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Get ready for it Jack. Some attorneys Generals are going to block Trump from getting on the ballets in their states.



Uh huh. If it happens, only in deep Blue states that he was never going to win in the first place.

Go ahead and do it. Watch what happens everywhere else.

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According to the constitution, he is automatically disqualified from running after trying to overturn an election.


Nope. Just another lie that your Media is telling you now. How many times have you heard "the walls are closing in on Trump", Ted? How many times do you have to hear it before even you don't believe it anymore.

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He is also on video suggesting we suspend the constitution. Something he was sworn to protect.


And once again, no link provided.

Video or it never happened.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:28 AM

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Good to hear.

T


BREAKING: New lawsuit could FLIP THE HOUSE to the Democrats



No it won't.

You are the dumbest person I've ever known.

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THG
Wednesday, August 23, 2023 4:39 PM

Trump is ineligible for office and more people are realizing it: Yale professor

If Republicans are serious about capturing the White House next year, their best bet would be to ditch Donald Trump.

That’s according to the findings of a newly published University of Pennsylvania Law School study authored by two staunch conservatives that says Trump would be ineligible to serve because of his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, Yale management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld writes for Just Security.

Sonnenfeld asserts that the study “shows with true authority that Trump has violated a fourth qualification, by providing aid and comfort to an insurrection and enemies of the U.S. Constitution.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-ineligible-for-office
-and-more-people-are-realizing-it-yale-professor/ar-AA1fDVCp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f5a709bba3244a32bee7f28ba6d5e5c8&ei=38




tick tock

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 7:15 PM

Trump vows massive new tariffs if elected, risking global economic war

Trump floats 10 percent tax on all foreign imports

Trump summoned his top economic advisers to his private golf club in New Jersey for a two-hour dinner last Wednesday night to map out a trade-focused economic plan for his presidential bid.

Trump and top aides, including former senior White House officials Larry Kudlow and Brooke Rollins, as well as outside advisers Stephen Moore and former House speaker Newt Gingrich, spent the dinner discussing how Trump could attack President Biden in the 2024 election on the economy, amid a recent spate of positive economic news that has buoyed Biden’s fortunes, according to three people familiar with the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private event.

Among the ideas they discussed was Trump’s plan to enact a “universal baseline tariff” on virtually all imports to the United States, the people said. This idea, which Trump has taken to describing as the creation of a “ring around the U.S. economy,” could represent a massive escalation of global economic chaos, surpassing the international trade discord that marked much of his first administration. Trump advisers have for months discussed various potential levels to set the tariff rate, and they said the plan remains a work in progress with major questions left unresolved, the people said.

On Fox Business on Thursday, the former president called for setting this tariff at 10 percent “automatically” for all countries, a move that experts warn could lead to higher prices for consumers throughout the economy and could likely lead to a global trade war.

“I think we should have a ring around the collar” of the U.S. economy, Trump said in an interview with Kudlow on Fox Business on Thursday. “When companies come in and they dump their products in the United States, they should pay, automatically, let’s say a 10 percent tax … I do like the 10 percent for everybody.”

The proposed expansion of the tariff policy, which aides said is expected to be a central 2024 campaign plank, reflects how Trump is aiming to expand the power he wielded in the White House, eyeing sweeping authoritarian measures for his second term that range from deploying the military to fight street crime to purging the federal workforce. Trump is opting not to explain this vision to voters at the first Republican presidential primary debate, being held Wednesday. Trump said he will not attend.

Economists of both parties said Trump’s tariff proposal is extremely dangerous. Adam Posen, president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, a Washington think tank, called the idea “lunacy” and “horrifying” and said it would lead the other major economies around the world to conclude the United States cannot be trusted as a trading partner. Although aimed at bolstering domestic production, a 10 percent tariff would hurt the thousands of U.S. firms that depend on imports, while also crippling the thousands of U.S. firms that depend on foreign exports, Posen said.

The United States today imposes an average tariff on imports of just above 3 percent, according to Posen. That number is higher for some countries, with goods coming from China facing an average import duty of 19 percent. “You would be depriving American families of an enormous amount of choice, making their lives much more expensive, and putting millions of people out of work,” Posen said.

Trump could use unilateral authority to exempt whatever countries he chooses from the automatic import tariffs. It would create enormous opportunities for influence-peddling, Posen said, following four years of a Trump presidency in which Saudi Arabia and other nations sought to steer Trump by frequenting his private businesses. “It is a recipe for corruption,” Posen said. “They will decide that whoever cozies up to Trump, or whoever his commerce secretary is, will get the exception.”

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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 8:03 PM

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Originally posted by THG:

BREAKING: New lawsuit could FLIP THE HOUSE to the Democrats



No it won't.

You are the dumbest person I've ever known.

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If you paid any attention to your own signature "How you do anything is how you do everything" you'd know why Trump got into thousands of lawsuits and lost or settled before going to trial.

6ix, Trump should be fired. During Trump's Inauguration Address, he figuratively did the #1 example from These 25 People Just Shared The Quickest Ways They've Ever Seen A Coworker Get Fired

George W. Bush had a brief assessment of Donald Trump's inauguration: "That was some weird shit.”

#1."During an annual sales meeting, a colleague got trashed on the plane ride there and pressed his bare butt on the plane window as it taxied to the gate, hoping to moon some friends who had just landed nearby. A VP was on the plane. Dude was fired and immediately sent home (on the company dime). He never even left the airport."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/people-revealing-quickest-way-theyve-0116027
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 9:45 PM



Trump is neck and neck with Biden in the polling aggregate today, and that's with 8 other "potential" Republican candidates currently debating and splitting up the vote, and of course the non-stop 24/7 negative Lefty press coverage that has become a daily part of our lives since 2016.

What do you think is going to happen once it's just Trump vs. Biden, huh?


And, even worse for you two...

Here's what the polling aggregates looked like on November 2nd of 2020:

Poll Aggregate Source / Biden / Trump / Other / Split
270 to Win ---------- / 51.1% / 43.1% / 5.8% / Biden +8.0
RealClear Politics -- / 51.2% / 44.0% / 4.8% / Biden +7.2
FiveThirtyEight ----- / 51.8% / 43.4% / 4.8% / Biden +8.4
Average ------------- / 51.4% / 43.5% / 5.1% / Biden +7.9


Here were the actual (Popular Vote) results:
2020 results 51.3% 46.8% 1.9% Biden +4.5

Joe Biden won the Popular Vote, but by 3.4% less than the average of the aggregates had him winning by.

The Aggregates today, right now...

RCP: Biden +2.0

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-ele
ction-trump-vs-biden-7383.html


270toWin: Biden +1.1

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

FiveThirtyEight doesn't do the math, but it doesn't look much better for Biden:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/nati
onal
/



Joe under-performed the average of the three largest polling aggregators by about double the current spread they've got Joe up by right now.


And even worse news is that was just the popular vote. Only about 40,000 to 60,000 votes need to be swung the other way in some key states (combined) to win the Electoral College. An extremely easy hurdle to overcome now that Republicans and Trump himself have decided to embrace the changes in law that de-legitimatized all American Elections going forward during Covid, just like I warned you they would.


Good luck. You'll need it.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:20 AM

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Trump is neck and neck with Biden in the polling aggregate today . . .

That is NOT how Presidents are elected. What predictive system does work? This one: The Keys to the White House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

From the content of the system, Lichtman concludes that voters select the next president mainly on how they feel the incumbent president has governed the country. If the voters are satisfied with the condition of the country, they will re-elect the incumbent president, or whoever from his party runs in his stead. If the voters are dissatisfied, they will transfer the presidency to the rival party. The election campaign has little if any meaningful effect on the voters. Voters are pragmatic and are not swayed by the spectacle of campaigning. Whether the voters are correct to blame the president for the country's specific problems is another matter; the point is that the election campaign is irrelevant. Voters vote retrospectively, not prospectively.

The word "retrospectively" means something in the case of Trump. He has behaved idiotically since he left the White House. Only people who are Trumptards will downplay that recent history.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:42 AM

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Trump is neck and neck with Biden in the polling aggregate today . . .

That is NOT how Presidents are elected.



Yes. It is. And you missed the point. Biden* was much farther above Trump before the 2020 election, and the amount he under-performed is twice his aggregate lead today.



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What predictive system does work? This one: The Keys to the White House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

From the content of the system, Lichtman concludes that voters select the next president mainly on how they feel the incumbent president has governed the country. If the voters are satisfied with the condition of the country, they will re-elect the incumbent president, or whoever from his party runs in his stead. If the voters are dissatisfied, they will transfer the presidency to the rival party. The election campaign has little if any meaningful effect on the voters. Voters are pragmatic and are not swayed by the spectacle of campaigning. Whether the voters are correct to blame the president for the country's specific problems is another matter; the point is that the election campaign is irrelevant. Voters vote retrospectively, not prospectively.

The word "retrospectively" means something in the case of Trump. He has behaved idiotically since he left the White House. Only people who are Trumptards will downplay that recent history.



Too bad for Biden* and Democrats that the damage they've done to Americans is far more fresh in their minds going into this election.

The Normies vote the President in. Not you Leftist wack-job cultists.



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Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:06 AM

Alex Cole @acnewsitics

Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man, a poor man's idea of a rich man and a moron's idea of a businessman.

9:51 PM · May 20, 2019
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1130667316440641540

6ixStringJack got 4 out of 4:

1. weak man
2. stupid man
3. poor man
4. moron

It is no surprise that 6ix is a Trumptard. Say it again, 6ix: "Trump will be fine." That qualifies 6ix as:

5. Non-perceptive man
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/perceptive

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 8:12 AM

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Too bad for Biden* and Democrats that the damage they've done to Americans is far more fresh in their minds going into this election.

The Normies vote the President in. Not you Leftist wack-job cultists.

I have never seen anybody damaged by a Democratic President but what I have seen thousands of times is these so-called "Normies" destroying themselves with alcohol, tobacco, gluttony, sex, drugs, gambling, etc. Never have I seen even one of these "Normies" realize they were killing themselves and it was completely their own fault. Flunk out of life now, Normies! You know you want to.

I forgot about being at the Pawnshop twice in a week (Cash America Pawn, Bay Area Boulevard, Houston, TX). That place reminded me that "Normies" are EXTREMELY stupid about money. It is self-destructive, but nobody at the pawnshop seeking a loan on crappy TVs had a clue that they were doing something wrong by being there. Sell your junk on eBay. Don't go to a pawnshop, Normies. And while I am giving advice, don't get a payday loan, Normies. Interest rates are higher than 400%, you fools. https://paydayloaninfo.org/how-payday-loans-work/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Thursday, August 24, 2023 5:18 PM

Trump was boasting about his poll numbers when Tucker Carlson suddenly cut him off.

“Can I ask you—that gets back to my original question,” he said. “If the protests didn’t work, and you got elected anyway; the impeachment didn’t work, twice; indictment is not working … If you chart it out, it’s an escalation, is what I’m saying. So what’s next, after trying to put you in prison for the rest of your life? That’s not working. Don’t they have to kill you now?”

Trump didn’t respond directly. “I think the people of our country don’t get enough credit for how smart they are,” he said. “They get it. I got indicted four times. All trivial. Nonsense. Bullshit. It’s all bullshit.” (As all Trumptards do, Trump denies any responsibility for the trouble he is in.)

It was the second time Carlson had brought up the strong likelihood, from his perspective, that they were going to try to kill Trump. Over the course of the 46-minute interview, Carlson emphasized, repeatedly, the looming danger from the left. It was an odd conversation in part because Trump didn’t seem to want to follow him down that particular path. Trump was eager to talk about the stolen election or the failures of the Democrats or Joe Biden’s senility, but he had little apparent enthusiasm for Carlson’s questions about the prospect of civil war. It was, oddly, an interview that served, unintentionally, to make Donald Trump seem reasonable.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/08/tucker-carlson-trump-inter
view-x-epstein-debate.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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